Juste entre toi et moi - Claude Legault

Episode Date: July 28, 2025

Dans un entretien aussi drôle qu’intense, à son image, Claude Legault revient sur la série Minuit, le soir et sur son amitié avec le regretté Julien Poulin. Il se confie aussi sur la liberté... de parole des vedettes du petit écran et sur les circonstances qui ont mené à son épuisement professionnel.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, here, Dominique Tardiff, a re-beenew. At just, between, you're an episode Mett, making an end-ed-ed-ed to be someone that I had not only never interviewed, this episode Mett's someone to who I talked for the point. First time of my
Starting point is 00:00:31 my life. My invite today is the actor and scenarist Claude Leggo. There's many questions
Starting point is 00:00:37 at the beginning of the series Midnui the Soar why, me ask you? Because it's
Starting point is 00:00:45 one of my series preferre it's also simple than that, but also because
Starting point is 00:00:48 midnight the night year, it's 20 year, his 20th anniversary, in January, it
Starting point is 00:00:55 had been to be out of this series midnight the night, which is by moment
Starting point is 00:00:59 very grave, let's say like that. But we'll have been able that's also a guy not quite
Starting point is 00:01:06 comical. I think you'll you'll see it in what he's in the
Starting point is 00:01:11 next year on the grand theater of Quebec a gala just for
Starting point is 00:01:15 with like as like Catherine Levaq Martin Petit
Starting point is 00:01:20 Guy Guy Gaudoin Michele Charette I I'm you remember
Starting point is 00:01:25 like that you can read the article that I to try of this encounter
Starting point is 00:01:29 in the Press Plus, on the press. or in your telephone or in your phone,
Starting point is 00:01:36 it's when you're taking the time to jaze a little bit to get in studio,
Starting point is 00:01:41 before to pass to things serious, the time to be a bit coffee also.
Starting point is 00:01:46 Claude me said to be racked at cause of the trainment of box to which
Starting point is 00:01:50 he set to live the day before we're to jazes to box, and we
Starting point is 00:01:55 made to jazes the portier in the bar and we got to jazes and it's like that
Starting point is 00:02:00 Claude made to his friend Paul Buisson the defun Paul Buisso
Starting point is 00:02:06 Paul Animmel emission off at RDS he he was quitted
Starting point is 00:02:10 in 2005 at the age of 41 year I'm I'm quite
Starting point is 00:02:15 happy that Claude let have in my memory here my
Starting point is 00:02:20 interview with the intense Claude Claude Go. Just between you
Starting point is 00:02:29 and me it will rest around between me for one for a it
Starting point is 00:02:43 rest between you and me You were talking Tantot to your amitia with the regretted,
Starting point is 00:02:56 Paul Buissons. You were, you're in fact, of the same? We've met with Cerep, in fact. You'd have formed a duo
Starting point is 00:03:03 deparayed, let's see that. In fact, we've seen, all the gang to him, Paul. Yannima RDS,
Starting point is 00:03:10 it's there that we've known. It's not when I was when I was he'd He'd meet him. He did the music, with one of my
Starting point is 00:03:17 friends I'd have encountered, there also, Robert Pichet, and we've metered Michel Comanche at the same time. We'd see all right in the same years. And we'd turned these films with Paul, you know, we're doing, and after he's on the UNF, also, because he studied also at Concordia, he
Starting point is 00:03:33 so, we've done with him, but it's a mecham, Juanot. It's a fan-finie of sport, me with, so, there's on, we're going to be. But when we were going to go and we're going to go to the train of marines. We're going to be on a voyage. We're going to be on a while we're in a business. Yeah, we're going to be a bagarer.
Starting point is 00:03:53 No, no. Because you were talking to you were that you'd have trained. I'd probably with my co-de-box. But, no, we're in the United at Fort Lauderd, Daytona Beach. Daytona Beach. Daytona Beach. Where the car is roared, ma'etre, reigned, and everything you want. It's a long-jarray, the body.
Starting point is 00:04:12 So, now, we're in a moment, he's like in the magazines. He's in front of three Marines, in fact, three Marines. Not very great, by the way, because Paul had it kind of pretty six and five. And, I'm not too, to catch not too, de loin, what's what he's going to be. And then, we came to say, yeah, I think we've had a problem. I'm going to see, and the Marines it had to
Starting point is 00:04:40 have been interested to get to get a year. Just for the pleasure. But it would like
Starting point is 00:04:46 to be a big deal with they've been not been long time, and they've said, well,
Starting point is 00:04:50 we've done, we've found our Goliat. But it had often at Paul, the grand
Starting point is 00:04:55 like that, the grand, the great, and they're often, they're probably, they're just because they're
Starting point is 00:04:59 saying that it's a challenge, the it's a year, it's a yeah, Paul,
Starting point is 00:05:03 not mechant for Sincen, really, a d'u, you know, he jose with their own, and then I'm gonna'clock, and I try to disarmorce that a little bit also with an English
Starting point is 00:05:12 more approximative. And then I said, oh, you're a Marines, you know, I'm sure, you know, for, to go ahead to get their code
Starting point is 00:05:21 sensible. So, yeah, you're, you know, the base, he's, I'm explaining where's the base and then you say, okay, okay,
Starting point is 00:05:29 and then I said, okay, and then, my uncle, he's batted during the second year, Worldial, on the
Starting point is 00:05:34 American, the English, the English, and then, he's a mor, there's a no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:05:41 he's sure calmed the game, it's like, I'm at my five and seven face at three Marines,
Starting point is 00:05:47 it's like, it's like, to be back against two years, you can't you know, you know,
Starting point is 00:05:52 you know, you'll say, you know, you're doing, you know, I mean, it's a little anecdote with Paul.
Starting point is 00:05:58 Paul, at a moment also, we had set to get there had a serious problem, Paul, to... He's mocked to all the world.
Starting point is 00:06:09 It's a quality, but it could become a default in a certain situation. Yes, he was infreient because there was no filter. And it's plain to say, but these handicapped or gross person,
Starting point is 00:06:20 there had not to do any of the rector. And he had even the flicke. There, we'd be arrested by an highway patrol
Starting point is 00:06:30 in the United the night. We're going to a little bit. The monsieur did not not hear. He arrived.
Starting point is 00:06:39 You know, they have these chapos like these chappo like the coat, there's
Starting point is 00:06:43 his lunettes fris, we're four of the morning. There's a gun, his gun, it's all
Starting point is 00:06:51 what we're so it's so it's so on his arm and then we're we're bans
Starting point is 00:06:55 the fence, and then he says with a voice of Tiswood you know we'd
Starting point is 00:06:59 too fast, and we don't know the paper, we're from Montreal, blah, he parke the
Starting point is 00:07:04 papiers. He comes with a big ticket, you know, an adiquette and it's like payable
Starting point is 00:07:11 there. It's that I'd not, I had a terminal interac that had
Starting point is 00:07:16 at this time, not at that we're, so we're out of our cash, and pay the ticket, and
Starting point is 00:07:23 then Paul, he said, you have a receipt. He is obliged to give a receipt. Like that he looked
Starting point is 00:07:30 I said He's going to He's going to He's going to He will be able to He was He was in front of the Cache in his pouch
Starting point is 00:07:39 He had really He was going to He's put treading in the charl long time He said Go ahead And then I've seen
Starting point is 00:07:48 Go ahead And then I've seen Paul He said Paul He's not Chris We're finery atair The face
Starting point is 00:07:57 in the asphalt With the monot in the do and then he's eloyed and then he's maybe he said go ahead
Starting point is 00:08:04 so far that's been our phrase to the other voyage. Clint is Wood we've been we've got to
Starting point is 00:08:11 have been by Clintiswood. You'd have you had to a autograph in the place of a
Starting point is 00:08:16 I think we'd have had had a y'all he he didn't not
Starting point is 00:08:20 content. I think he's not put put to put to make the cash in
Starting point is 00:08:21 his he's he's he's he's part very young, your yeah, yeah, he
Starting point is 00:08:27 part's very after a lot of medical that had when he went to the hospital
Starting point is 00:08:33 in the madam Puyson, her had pursued the medicine and the hospital
Starting point is 00:08:39 not for to have to have to have an but to have made a they've been
Starting point is 00:08:46 intubed in a modest place they've done the medications that they had been
Starting point is 00:08:50 there had been plenty, plenty, plenty of gafe that had been to we know
Starting point is 00:08:53 we thought when he had when he was when he had his poe, you know, it was not that it was other thing. He was very costo.
Starting point is 00:09:01 He was costo, but he was also in surpoor, pretty morbid, you know, so, but, but, yeah, he's partied ben, ben, ben, de bono. Very, very young. It's just one of the chum that I've heard of the more young, so, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:17 How many, you've lived here? We've seen, more, we've got to be, well, we've got to a bit, but, but, but, you know, it's been a shock when, my chum, Robert Pichet, me called me and said, hey, you're not the morn.
Starting point is 00:09:30 I've made, okay. We're going, we're going to, we're going to be at anterment, at the church, all too, and the church, it was very,
Starting point is 00:09:42 very, very, touchant, because her sister, who had the cancer at the time, she had a great danceess of the Balacanadi, she,
Starting point is 00:09:50 she, had danced at the church around her tomb, yeah, yeah, it's too, that,
Starting point is 00:09:55 it's too, So it's a little. You know, it's a guy who he was a real, it's a girl, he was a drowl, in plus, but really, a droll cave. But it's that, his role, the RDS, it's an emission,
Starting point is 00:10:08 it's an edition that he had a grand tonneur comic. It's so, and he had so much an audace that he'd to be able to talk to everyone. There had not, there had, there was,
Starting point is 00:10:18 there was not, the limit, Paul. He could reach to talk with all the world, to convince of anything. Paul, he was convinced He could
Starting point is 00:10:27 He could Vend to X-Lax to someone that had the flu. I said, it was extraordinary
Starting point is 00:10:34 it's extraordinary. It's extraordinary so that he had a bigot so he had known a lot of
Starting point is 00:10:40 people, so the church had bonded. It was really, it was plenty, plenty of
Starting point is 00:10:44 players of hockey who are new, the commentator sportive, plenty of people of people who
Starting point is 00:10:48 had been it's strangely, the most betterment that I've seen. And it's
Starting point is 00:10:54 Duelvis who played in the church because Paul is a fan fined of Elvis there were all,
Starting point is 00:11:01 the discs, the bootlegs, the pirate all the there were there were a trac that was a
Starting point is 00:11:08 hearing of the Elvis or the Elvis in studio in the car he said, but he would make that
Starting point is 00:11:14 we're so in the church in the English, it's the Elvis that you have you
Starting point is 00:11:19 have you have a grand fan of Elvis in Gasbar Blues yeah Chip,
Starting point is 00:11:23 who he mackrised Well, the English and the words of the songs. Like me, I want a chuck-cock. Yes, no, he's not all right, Elvis,
Starting point is 00:11:32 let's be brawling, what's going to? You've got to be able to your film, your filmography is impressionant, but that's one of your third or fourtheem
Starting point is 00:11:43 film, if I'm don't know, yeah, it's a probably one of my first, Louis Belanger me had called me,
Starting point is 00:11:47 he said, I'd say, to, to, to come to come a little role in the film.
Starting point is 00:11:53 Well, yeah, Louis Belanger of any other any other when I'm in a current.
Starting point is 00:11:56 And I didn't know, I'm going to be able to do that because it's really a good film. All the
Starting point is 00:12:04 whole is good there in. All the whole is good. It's been written, it's very realised,
Starting point is 00:12:08 it's, it's a touchant like a very, very beautiful film and that he had a
Starting point is 00:12:14 bit past in the beer to remise to price because this day there I think
Starting point is 00:12:18 it was the decline, I'm not too, not a decline, but, there was a a
Starting point is 00:12:22 big film that was a a little in the banjoer at trophy, because this film that, an other year, this film, would have re-remorted a trophy. But it's one of, one of the bo films, I've had you fun.
Starting point is 00:12:37 We had it, imagine, we were on September, they were on a garage, on a terrain vague that had in a village. I went to a velo, it was at four minutes of our show. And we turned in September. September, there were several years, he'd normally in September, not so hot. The September of Antone.
Starting point is 00:12:53 But there, it was due 32, 35, 38 degrees all the time, all the time, all the time. And we had these vests of the month of October. It was occurrent. The makeoes, he knew machiae at Truel. It was a fonderable. We had it. And we were on the asphalt all the time. It's a garage.
Starting point is 00:13:14 It's a station service. It's a gas bar. But it's been really, really fun. With Real, we're also. with Creale Basie, who did the non-voyant there, my chum, non-voyant, you know, the pass of pizza?
Starting point is 00:13:27 Yeah, it's just so. He'd eschaped her by-ter, and you pittes to try to do give him, and he said, and he said, he said, I'm not e-chaping, oh, fuck you. But...
Starting point is 00:13:35 It's how to work to work with Serge Terrio? It was fun. It's all the fun. It's sure that Serge was particularly, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:41 the moments he he'd never, he'd never, what he'd be, what he'd be what he'd, and, finally, it'd, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:50 it was a, It's a gestion. It's a gestion. But, I know that he had to be the same a little,
Starting point is 00:13:55 so I decided to be very a care with him. Sometimes I talk about with him, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:14:02 I'm an idol for me. And I'm doing, you know, a coffee, you know, oh,
Starting point is 00:14:05 yeah, oh, yeah, we're going to get to get a coffee, and see, all the whole
Starting point is 00:14:10 all, and he had superbe in the film. It's formidable. It's really. It's really. It's allversive.
Starting point is 00:14:18 Bluversant. The scene the first with the chip where he's to make open the door to be
Starting point is 00:14:23 the door to do you know I'm to make brawny me yeah, and you're too buggy
Starting point is 00:14:28 you're just to be able to the morning you think he really, you think that he'd really that
Starting point is 00:14:34 had a gang of garage and he had been a lot of his own vulnerability also with
Starting point is 00:14:41 his debut of the malady it's a great actor we're we're talking the
Starting point is 00:14:46 the viders, the portiers, the Dorman tantal, because you've created with your friend, Pierre Rivard,
Starting point is 00:14:53 to have played in the night, it's immemorable. You've played with an other grand, there's Julian Poulin. Julian Poulin.
Starting point is 00:15:01 I just had quitted. Louis Champagne also, which is very good. It's how to to work with Julian Poulin?
Starting point is 00:15:07 That we had a few in this genre of role, it's evident that it was associated for to always
Starting point is 00:15:11 to Elvis Graton. There, he us made, he us much emu. When we
Starting point is 00:15:17 we did the auditions because when we did the auditions I participated in those auditions so I'd give the replic my role
Starting point is 00:15:24 was assured so I'd give the replica to the other I'm at and I'm in confidence also when you
Starting point is 00:15:31 play with those other and there were pods there had also Tianan and Glenn and that
Starting point is 00:15:36 the productress and I see the line-up I've seen Julie, Pooley you know like all
Starting point is 00:15:44 all the other, I had, you know, he had made a party and all right, with Follardo, but it's been a little he was very,
Starting point is 00:15:53 very associated to Elvis Graton that I never, because he had had been the return of Elvis Graton
Starting point is 00:15:57 in the time. It's so. So, associated to the comedy, let's, more burlesque than other
Starting point is 00:16:04 things. Designed a great tret, let's, at a big crayon of salt. And,
Starting point is 00:16:09 but, but, there, I see, the line-up, I'm, yeah, Julianne Pooleine?
Starting point is 00:16:14 Yeah, Diana Zwoe, I'm sure I'm going to see, I'm going to see, I'm going to be in accord
Starting point is 00:16:21 with that, okay. We're going to have passed many, it's very good, in auditions,
Starting point is 00:16:26 but nothing to create a mother, you know, and there arrives this, this,
Starting point is 00:16:30 this good man, so, so, so, gently, I'm sorry, genuinely,
Starting point is 00:16:34 I'm sorry, want to do not do you, a mule, you know, a muleau, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:42 he rent, Well, I say, hello, hey, how it's going to be? Clod, I'm content to be. Well, it's all you who did you? No, yeah, you're going to be briefed. I mean, I'd be briefed before, you know, they'd be briefed, how we'd have to do, like, and then we'd have to start this up. And then, I said, well, Julie, look, you're the most vieue of the gang.
Starting point is 00:17:07 They're called the Vue. And you're going to lose your job. and your job, it's all that. It's not complicated, and you're chum, me, and Louis, but it's a...
Starting point is 00:17:19 So, there's just that in life. Rien, just that. Okay. But the scene, one or two,
Starting point is 00:17:28 he's super good. He's really super good, he is touching at death. But, I'm just a little to the Q. You know,
Starting point is 00:17:35 I said, okay, I'd know that of Junio Pooley. There, there's a scene where he'd be more
Starting point is 00:17:41 more rough because, you know, we're in a head because, you know, we're trying to get to get so they're like
Starting point is 00:17:46 to understand that they're old school in plus, to understand that are able to be able to t'clock
Starting point is 00:17:55 there's a minute, so so, so, so, so, we've done to be fashed, he'd
Starting point is 00:18:00 arrive at more. We'd have had a one, two, three times, he'd not,
Starting point is 00:18:05 to be, he'd never, to be, you know, to be, and then, you know, we'd
Starting point is 00:18:10 We just took a little break, and then, he said, we know, he said, we've got, we'll have, we'd, we'd, we'd have it, we'd, we'd, we'd have it, we'd be able to, we'd, we'd, we'd, he'd be able to, but it'd be Radio Canada also. You'd have, with the tape, and it'd, we'd, we'd, I'd, I'd call, and I'd, and I'd just, and, then, yeah, I'd say, and, yeah, it's so we're we're we're
Starting point is 00:18:38 we're doing all the other you know you're there it's so the person but
Starting point is 00:18:42 you know that you know that you think you're able to you're able to you're a Dormand
Starting point is 00:18:50 you you're really that you Fach too okay we're
Starting point is 00:18:56 we're one two two the third the third the
Starting point is 00:19:00 there's not cried there It's just her farce. He's in the eyes
Starting point is 00:19:08 full of the and you know, the dands there's a lot of there's a person
Starting point is 00:19:12 in the name. Ah, see, me. And when you, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:17 and then, and I'm, and I said, okay, I'd me make a pipit
Starting point is 00:19:23 to, you know, and we had made, and, and then, then, we've made
Starting point is 00:19:28 there, he's part, but he's parted again, you, like, like, my God,
Starting point is 00:19:32 I'm excuse to be there. Yeah. We saw regard, Diana Glenn, Bob, and we've made,
Starting point is 00:19:38 Chris, it's he, it's he, it's so. He, he comes to try to what we
Starting point is 00:19:45 have done. And it's that's the man that had started, and I have done
Starting point is 00:19:51 three years, more than the fun, I've been there's not had a conversation in my
Starting point is 00:19:57 life, I've not had any any a real conversation of home to home with my
Starting point is 00:20:04 father. Never. It's not not happened. Like a many of a lot of my age.
Starting point is 00:20:11 And with Julian, I had. Julian was more than more than 15, 16,
Starting point is 00:20:16 years than more than 15, 16 that with. In the series, I was, I was a
Starting point is 00:20:23 little paternal to Louis and I, and I, and I, I was the leader
Starting point is 00:20:28 aggressive, the little leader. but he was the sages and Louis it was a little bit
Starting point is 00:20:33 a little a kid he's an old he's he's really a guyson
Starting point is 00:20:38 but he's but he had some of the conversation we're jose in the loge
Starting point is 00:20:44 we jose had of everything and at that I'm there had a separation Julian
Starting point is 00:20:49 and there had there had some problems I think to have to have
Starting point is 00:20:53 his and it troubled so he he was very very emotive so that
Starting point is 00:20:59 I mean, I've had these conversations so much-touchant with him. We've read like these ballads, also in tournant with him. Because we're in the moment
Starting point is 00:21:07 dramatic in the night, but there were many times, there were many times. But in the tape and there were not even worse because,
Starting point is 00:21:13 Julia, it's a main cave. And Julian, I'd really the family. And we were, and we were, and we were,
Starting point is 00:21:18 and we were, it was a lot that had danced so, so there were many people, and some, we'd say,
Starting point is 00:21:27 Julian, Julien, rest with us. Res with us. Focus, Julia. Yeah, she's correct. She, she's correct. She, she called.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Rebecca, she came to... He'd know the names of all the world on the plateau. He could say their CV where's who came. He had been, he had been. There were...
Starting point is 00:21:44 All the figurates. All right. They had been all new. So, it was, it was really... It was really a condeer,
Starting point is 00:21:51 Julian, on two parts. Really. It was not too conscient of... I never met He seemed not too conscious of all the love that the Quebecois had for him. There had a misery to bring that,
Starting point is 00:22:03 Julien, we'd say. There had no misery to, there was no more than to, because, no, he would have done, he had, you know, I've had some, I've had some of, you know, and he had fun with me, he was fine with,
Starting point is 00:22:16 Louis, with Julie Beirot, he was, he, he was enveloping, but, but, he, to receive, the stock, it was difficult. It was, yeah, it's tough. we'd say for
Starting point is 00:22:26 him. But he'd finish by the problem, you know, but I think it
Starting point is 00:22:34 has always been always and mal-alase with Elvis. You know, the love debordant,
Starting point is 00:22:42 it's been something, it's been something to be too gross for him, he said,
Starting point is 00:22:46 I'm not to say, I'm not to the old Elfis, all the people called Elfis,
Starting point is 00:22:55 It's a lot of the other. It was a bad or the other. It was a cash-22 for him. He'd be like, it's not someone who had the bono and facile, I mean. I'd call it the beauzeeotrists,
Starting point is 00:23:07 me, Julian. There were these eyes tendre, but all the time a little bit of melancholic. But, in a meantime, it's a way of co-cave, you could make some jokes, it's not probably
Starting point is 00:23:16 that he'd be able to have to be it, it was really a medium toton, he was droll in tabarwet. What's he did like like? There's all, those,
Starting point is 00:23:25 But Louis Champagne, it's a medium. He's a cave also. It was a droll. And one of his pleasers, it was to decohered, Julian. And then to let me have decrochet. And then, he is droll. Louis Champagne, he is really very droll.
Starting point is 00:23:43 So, Julie Perrault, who, she, she, had, but non-stop constantly, so when we'd see the three, the poor Julie Perrault, she, had been able to find his sin. It was effraiant. and Louis Champagne
Starting point is 00:23:56 and Julian adored that to make cracker Julie. Julie, it's our, Julie, she would have
Starting point is 00:24:02 that say, I'm my three, my three protector, my three, my three of Armand,
Starting point is 00:24:07 you, and it was, it was the reign, it's our reign, on the plateau. Is it
Starting point is 00:24:13 you've been in contact, Julia and you? Not a lot, but a time time,
Starting point is 00:24:18 I'd have called, a couple of months before his death. In a minute, All right,
Starting point is 00:24:24 you know, he's in the campan, in the boar, you know, you know, it's Clough
Starting point is 00:24:29 the little, uh, the little O'clock, hey, Clay, Darlene, and then
Starting point is 00:24:36 and then, and then, Marcy, hey, it's, it's, you know, it's a
Starting point is 00:24:40 thing, you know, I think Louis, he'd also, they're also, you're,
Starting point is 00:24:47 they're, they're, so, we're, they're, the first, The first film in which you've played,
Starting point is 00:24:50 is the party of Pierre Farardo? In which Julian Poulin. He also he's a scene disheerant when he is
Starting point is 00:24:57 invited to and that's a blonde and that The Coeur is a Boathe Is it?
Starting point is 00:25:03 Is it? Is it? Is it? No, I'm not Croasie. I've not had the chance to be crosser
Starting point is 00:25:08 in my journey where I were there. I've not had this chance that. I've been chaste
Starting point is 00:25:14 to work with Falardo, you know, I've had a little role of nothing, but it's not grave.
Starting point is 00:25:19 He had been to play at Eleni in a week. I think he had seen he'd have used to say,
Starting point is 00:25:24 oh, he'd be called directly to Farlardo, sometimes. You're not by the image, more,
Starting point is 00:25:31 it's a bit like the plume, the traverse of the cinema, you know, the institutions, he s'
Starting point is 00:25:35 crissed a lot, and I, and I'm not to meet, I've been the chance to turn a day
Starting point is 00:25:41 with Falardo, and the midday, oh, the guy, I'm involved hot-dog, and he
Starting point is 00:25:47 I mean, you know with us other? Oh, yeah, yeah. So, you're going to go ahead. You'd have to go ahead. Yeah, yeah, we went to go. There was a little room in the corner, and then I'd listen to Farlardo and I'd, and I'd say, and I'd say, I'd say,
Starting point is 00:26:00 he'd probably, no, no, and he'd, and'd be able to, and he'd be able to, and be able to beckon. You, it's not a bougon, like, all the bougonue, or anything, you're really, you know, someone who'd be, you know, these people, you know, people are too often, when they're
Starting point is 00:26:15 He ried, it's extraordinary. It's like a... It's like a buffet of oxygen. Yeah, it's a lot of a little visage that's developed before you, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:23 and when he ryeed, at a moment, he ried, who's got, who's said he'd had fettry, he'd conted these conneries in the bar,
Starting point is 00:26:31 in the restaurant. There, he ried like a malan in two boucher of dog. So, so it's been a great,
Starting point is 00:26:39 a great, a great, a great deal, I just this chance that, and I didn't, it, to go to work with his alter ego
Starting point is 00:26:48 a few years later. Julian, it has been a encounter markable. You're talking at the instant of the moment difficult that you traversed on the plan personal during the tournage of
Starting point is 00:27:01 the night of course and that Julian Poulin traversed also. Is that aid to offer the mayor to his personage than to be
Starting point is 00:27:10 to be tornated if we had to someone? He's what is the case in the night night of night. It can.
Starting point is 00:27:14 It can. but in the time, I think you can be in plain bonner, and you can't make a job like for a while, and it's it's not, but it's sure that
Starting point is 00:27:24 on certain affairs, probably that in my night of night, I've got some things that were not in writing with Pierre Eve, this
Starting point is 00:27:35 series that would be much more comic than that. Well, it's sure that on montage, we've got to but we're doing all the time,
Starting point is 00:27:44 just a cliché, and then I'll do time, we said, we've got to forer by our inconsiant in writing. And it's been a lot more deep, more dramatic, more a more more, more a poisey noir than a comedy. But
Starting point is 00:27:57 it came to us, it was of our two guys who came to turn to the quarantine, so, all our demons pasted, and all our interrogations of present, and all our inquietude of the future who he sorted. So, all that, it's
Starting point is 00:28:11 out of the writing. And then, when we've written all that, a moment, after the first year, it'd have to play, and then I'd have regarded that, I said, hey, I'm you put in a marne, me, to have written
Starting point is 00:28:22 that? It's going to do you. It's going to be days. And I'd say, and I'd even not, if I had, at this time, I'd be seen, I was, I'm not very affirmed as an actor,
Starting point is 00:28:32 not very solid in my head. You, I had a level of confidence that was a chateau of card. But I'm thinking, how I'm
Starting point is 00:28:44 going, is the potential? For the real, it's my, is, is the potential
Starting point is 00:28:49 to play that? I have the potential for the create, I'm the potential for the potential to try to
Starting point is 00:28:59 work, to have to have a car to a barterier of the route, I'm,
Starting point is 00:29:03 but for that, but how it will do you do? And it's that
Starting point is 00:29:08 that He's He's done confidence. He made confidence, who has directed like a master, a chef of orchestra
Starting point is 00:29:16 hallucinant, a matter in scene, a meter in scene, and someone who can be able to
Starting point is 00:29:27 make a tetris with the emotions of a scene and the emotions of the personage. You know, all the time, all the time,
Starting point is 00:29:36 he likes that when it's when it makes chaotic. And I'm chaotic in life. It's like
Starting point is 00:29:41 I'm organized but just to get the right to rotter, you're the right. Thank you to be able to
Starting point is 00:29:50 if you're if you want to, yeah, I'll bring that and I'm going to be talking to
Starting point is 00:29:56 something super important. I know, I'm going to suffer from I've left the same. I'm trying to
Starting point is 00:30:01 I'm I do respect for my invite for my inveter. I can't I'm not their rotte
Starting point is 00:30:05 to the visage. I can't. Is it we're No, no. No, no, I don't know. Okay. It's just, I'm going to die.
Starting point is 00:30:13 It's just a boy. It's just a good debut of, if it had been a last interview, I thought that we had something if we're taking something. Yeah, it's true. You know, I'm sorry. But how, concretely, a realtor
Starting point is 00:30:24 works with an actor who has been to gain a little in confidence? I mean, I didn't say that I had been to gain in confidence. By course, I'd say, often, and I'd compare it when we're going to work in the year past, we've worked
Starting point is 00:30:37 together on the collect. Some, I'm not sure, I've worked with my affairs, and I say, hey, come on, we're going to see that, boss. And then, he me I'm saying, I don't know. I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:30:49 now with him, I've seen, I've seen, I've seen by these realisators or realizatrice, yeah, no, it's going to you, don't,
Starting point is 00:30:57 that when I understand that, man, I've got nervous. It's, they say, they're not
Starting point is 00:31:05 less than me. He's going to say it's all right. On the cross in the door. It's really of the mouth. So, Pod, he said, I don't know. We'll have to find. All right. I mean, it's all right.
Starting point is 00:31:17 It means that he will be lachers up on the way. You, we'll go to do it, we'll pass it to travel. So, there's been a scene very complicated, as soon, and... Pod, he was very encouraging, but he was very...
Starting point is 00:31:35 He'd say, like you want, I mean, I'm going to descend in the cave, the bar, and I demolit it all. He'd say, how you want to do that? I just, I don't know. I just, I don't know. I don't. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:31:50 I'm going to decryce, but totally, there probably, like, you said, I'm going to say, I'm going to search some things in front of, who'd dormant, before a good bout. I got petted in the gull but in the box
Starting point is 00:32:05 of carton and the chases that I've launched in the mule when the scene had finished it's that
Starting point is 00:32:10 that's the more the scene had ever more he ried no, he had to contact had violence
Starting point is 00:32:18 I'm sorry when the scene he had left his head and he said
Starting point is 00:32:21 tabar mac and he he ried and he had a arm to the
Starting point is 00:32:27 eyes he'd say whyon don't can you can't do you can't do you
Starting point is 00:32:31 can't Well, we're finally, we're doing two. And it's been super content. So, at the part of the other, I'm just, I'm content, he's happy, he's not, my confidence has grimpy, tranquillment like that. After that, there's been the scenes of intimacy,
Starting point is 00:32:48 the scene of more complicated, more hard. It's been able to be there on, because he's super accompanying there in, and he doesn't confidence, it does, and I don't know, but I've heard that
Starting point is 00:33:00 because of an improv probably I'm a if I'm a if I'm to play at Lennie
Starting point is 00:33:07 in the league major, in the league university, I don't not, I don't know the cut of
Starting point is 00:33:10 I'm saying, if you're a 10 minute and it's for 22 minutes I'm there I'm not not really
Starting point is 00:33:17 if you see, not I'm going to continue and Paul he was he'd be at a
Starting point is 00:33:21 minute, he'd be seen and he had never no text there, and he'd
Starting point is 00:33:27 could not. I mean, I'd continue. And then a few, he'd prented their butt, there'd be, and then, he'd let's continue. In improvising. In improvising, because we
Starting point is 00:33:37 knew what we had to do, we know who we'd as a person. So, it's it'd give a confidence in moody. So, I'd tell you, the
Starting point is 00:33:44 meter in scene, the realisator that made, that's made, that's made, that's made, it's really, it's really.
Starting point is 00:33:54 How is you have applied to be an actor? You've often talked, of the influence, the role major that the improv has played in your life and in your career, but the improv, is a type of game particular
Starting point is 00:34:06 that's not the same than when we're in a camera. It's these cousins, you know, like the theater also, it's just technically, there's a level, well, you have to be in a good place. You have to be more far,
Starting point is 00:34:19 but to try to get a moment, at the television. I'm still trying to be someone of I'm someone that's I can be extrovertis, but I'm
Starting point is 00:34:27 introvertie also. So, I'm not the rectangle or the core of the television me vauby.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Because I don't know far. And I've learned that also I have to be that you
Starting point is 00:34:42 don't know that's about it. So the level of the game exaggerated, we're not
Starting point is 00:34:47 not made not. You're not making in plus. You can't like that's So I think that's
Starting point is 00:34:54 I've been I've seen a thing the research like in the literature, the literature me had been
Starting point is 00:35:00 to be a good actor, I think, because if your scene is a is very, there's a
Starting point is 00:35:07 lot of your scene and in your game, the world that's it's always in line it
Starting point is 00:35:15 on the in pro, in improv, I, each improv, I'm a question of life or more, you
Starting point is 00:35:19 I'm really, it's true what I'm even if I'm trying to chaboshy on a shovel, in an edifice in in a pro, and couriered by
Starting point is 00:35:28 a gang of Skenned, it's true, I'm, I'm if you're doing I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm doing,
Starting point is 00:35:36 for that I'm the comedy French, the comedic francis, there are not, but the bonn, it's that, they're not,
Starting point is 00:35:42 they're not, they're not, they're not, it's not, it's not true, but in the time, it's not, it's like,
Starting point is 00:35:49 it's like, It's like that I've developed the in observant also the other you're observing other actors that are extraordinary and you say, wow, okay, tabarwet, why it's it too,
Starting point is 00:36:02 you look, and you say, because he's not because it's not far. Too, it's like to pass, it, too, it's not It sounds simple when you're explaining that it's not.
Starting point is 00:36:15 There are some more easy than other. There are some things, it's more complicated. You know, these scenes of emotion Braille, it's not that
Starting point is 00:36:25 that's the more too. It's just someone who has a good to braille and that's the more tough to do
Starting point is 00:36:31 and that and that's more more more touching than someone that's that you feel that he has
Starting point is 00:36:38 the good to explode but it doesn't that's to do to do to do
Starting point is 00:36:42 to do? With 15, 20 time to distance, what you get
Starting point is 00:36:48 this period of your life where you've passed of an actor a bit of icon, you were venerated. I'd relised the papers,
Starting point is 00:36:57 there's interviews with you at the time of 192 also. You're treated like a prime minister, but a
Starting point is 00:37:03 prime minister that we'd very much. I'm not the prime minister presently. Now, you'll have
Starting point is 00:37:09 to beckarri. I'd have been able to that you'd ask, Francoe, my character The first of the bye-bye,
Starting point is 00:37:17 it's the monsieur who's not capable to say bye-bye. It's not a boy. It's not right. He's not
Starting point is 00:37:23 where he's where he's the first person that I'm the first time to play. It's a a faux pop
Starting point is 00:37:31 of Guantel. Well, he's going to find a man, he's a miserable to say,
Starting point is 00:37:35 he's not to get, he's got to be a pereux at the head, and a moustache and away,
Starting point is 00:37:38 and then we're there's that I'm not pain, it's not pain? It's not bye, and it's
Starting point is 00:37:44 the sole he's there, but we don't but we're not what he says. And it's who's a Mr. is a question
Starting point is 00:37:48 is a lot of maybe a mix of things that I 've got to be in a shot but yeah, it's not right.
Starting point is 00:37:58 I like the man, he's not I'm sorry. I'd probably a time of a hour
Starting point is 00:38:02 with that Mr. I'd pay 50 Piers to go to go to be yeah, we'd have to
Starting point is 00:38:06 have been there'd be put some you'd be some you'd say, you'd the other
Starting point is 00:38:11 the other that at at this at Each word that you pronounceed was considered as a word of the evangelist.
Starting point is 00:38:17 You've even published a biography. What do you get today on the clode lego mania? Oh, boy. I've certainly
Starting point is 00:38:28 realized at this time that I've had an enormous pleasure. That's, it was... It's not
Starting point is 00:38:34 that's not no, no, no, no, not, no, no, not, no, I'd be able to say that. No, no, no,
Starting point is 00:38:39 I'd have been very my life, in plus. And, you know, Pierre-Ive and me, before the end of the years of the years of the 90, we've worked as well as, my view, but without, to obtain, you know, and there I had an impression
Starting point is 00:38:56 that it was all the vendange. You know, I had also, I'd be proved a lot of me even, also, that, like, my God, I can, with Pierrei, I could write these things percutant. I had, you know, We've been to create the galaxy also
Starting point is 00:39:12 that's kind of that's quite we'll be able to talk about a series cult, actually it's been, but we've been an idea
Starting point is 00:39:18 at this time that it's a cult, but it's in a thing to be something of monstrous and as
Starting point is 00:39:23 as a, as a actor, I, I had seen for several years ago, I've seen Luke Picard
Starting point is 00:39:31 in Umberta and in a moment there's a scene where he saw that he will be an infiltrate
Starting point is 00:39:38 there in, and he got of the time out, and he's not sure if it's that, and I'd see, he's allume in the smoke he can't, he's, he has a fear, he's afraid, I've seen, I said,
Starting point is 00:39:49 calm, fair, that this guy, I'll, I'll just be able to, and I'd be, and I'd say, at the time, if I could play a third of what he's capable
Starting point is 00:39:58 to do, I'm going to my life. I think, I think we, can't say that you had to get with, with my Mark Foray,
Starting point is 00:40:06 and you're trying, I think I was to arrive, to, I'm, to have to play in his tally with him, at his, at his, at his, at his, at his, on level of all. I mean, I'd never be able to do that.
Starting point is 00:40:18 But I had seen this guy there, and I've done, he's good. He's been born, he's been a lot of way. But, now, I'm becoming conned, also. It's had been an other affair. I, you know, I don't know what it would have to become connew, you, see?
Starting point is 00:40:32 And what's what it does? Well, it does advantage. It's a man, it's a lot, a lot of advantage because you can't you can't you can't
Starting point is 00:40:39 you can't you work to work and it means so that you don't feel the head
Starting point is 00:40:45 and you become a perfect or that you realize that attention it doesn't do not
Starting point is 00:40:53 it's awful you know I'm doing and it but it you're going to be the savour of
Starting point is 00:41:00 a moment that will be able to get to yeah it's so it's all it's so it
Starting point is 00:41:05 it's it's been long time But I established my at this moment I'm able to write and I'm able to play,
Starting point is 00:41:11 so I'm able to do you're able to do you know I'm able to find my base and it's able to work after that and continue to
Starting point is 00:41:18 to continue to to work but to be also known in the space of an year,
Starting point is 00:41:25 an year and after one a year and a year and a minute so it's effriant you know at a
Starting point is 00:41:34 at a level of it becomes different, because there's not the same contact with the world. Now, it's
Starting point is 00:41:42 like, okay. You're not just with the girls? Not just with the feet, not. Partoo,
Starting point is 00:41:47 now, where I go, it's just, it's not that's not, it's not, you've got to TV.
Starting point is 00:41:56 Hey, you're not at a party, the other time, the world to be a language
Starting point is 00:41:58 with a person, but he don't go to be to be, you know, but
Starting point is 00:42:00 but there, it's systematic. You go in the pharmacy, to buy the capote, they're trying to look at least you're trying to
Starting point is 00:42:12 I'm going to I'm going to they're going to do that that's all right. The mark the other guy, it's too cheate of caoutchou.
Starting point is 00:42:26 But I'm not a minute. They'd not be done the munitions. Oh, yeah,
Starting point is 00:42:31 yeah. And so, so, And that, it's a thing. So, it's a good. So, you know, to be in form to be to have to be able. After that, it's the parole.
Starting point is 00:42:42 I've always used, not a grand yell, but... Proche. It's to say, I think, that I could say, my opinion.
Starting point is 00:42:53 I'd never be invited to say my opinion on these shows. So, I'm in case. But if I was at some, there's a where, and,
Starting point is 00:43:01 there's a debate that parted, and it's froisset or whatever, I could launch a line a million-pirece, like we're saying, and it's like
Starting point is 00:43:08 that it's a lot of all the way. If they're they're going to have to decalice these banyolee because we're not that they
Starting point is 00:43:14 do you have to be passive? That's one of your declaration of the subject of the crime of 2012 for the
Starting point is 00:43:21 for which you are quickly I'm not retracted, but I'm not retracted, but you were the side of
Starting point is 00:43:27 the students but you were not I'm not I'm not I'm not not more. But I didn't like it, I didn't know, his government, I didn't know what he
Starting point is 00:43:35 did, I didn't, I'd like, he'd be sneaky, he'd make sure. So, I said so, you know, because I'd even that's, it seemed, like, the pudriar, and I thought that the government, the way of federate, you're a government, you're supposed to, like,
Starting point is 00:43:51 the, as the Prime Minister, you're supposed to the popat, the population, when the Shikane is polled in the family, you're supposed to try to attenue to attenue it. I'm supposed to try to attenue of that. I think that's I think it's my idea.
Starting point is 00:44:05 I think it's my idea I think that I think I think it would make the marble. Well,
Starting point is 00:44:11 then after that he'd preter a rab and all. But, well, effectively, fired the
Starting point is 00:44:15 chors, the citizens at the end of course, it was not a good idea. So, so I'm
Starting point is 00:44:20 taking that. And there, it's like Camille, my agent had come to me because it
Starting point is 00:44:28 had been to me to me brought with the journalists sport Also, it's
Starting point is 00:44:30 arrived a couple of of times. With the journalists? Well, to say, a moment, prene your polo,
Starting point is 00:44:36 the canasier may not, even not push the puck again, the game, the season may not
Starting point is 00:44:39 come back and they're not that they're not going to give them to give you do you know a chance.
Starting point is 00:44:43 Finally, I've said, it's always the name of the mongol that's called a line over, and
Starting point is 00:44:48 brief, it's never not, it has a couple of effect, of one, we don't do that,
Starting point is 00:44:52 in plus, and I'm it's not question of view of the more, in the case, it's not... Absolutely, not. Well, it's not so grave. Well, it's not very...
Starting point is 00:45:00 So, now, Camille, my agent, who is very, very, very... very... ...preoccuped by these... Why, he said, Clod, there's an affair, you've got to understand. She'll have seen that
Starting point is 00:45:14 with other actors. I mean, you, in your head, you're still, you're in Claude, or Claude. And it's true. But for the people, you're Claude Legault. I'm right, but it's my name.
Starting point is 00:45:26 No, no. You're Claude Logo who in a great I'm at a night night,
Starting point is 00:45:31 you're in the salon of the world, you're in cinema your your word
Starting point is 00:45:36 now, she's scruted at the loup no matter what you imagine
Starting point is 00:45:41 in this time that imagine today. Yeah. So, you have that you
Starting point is 00:45:46 have to make you make a attention now. I'm okay and it's
Starting point is 00:45:50 that I have I'm to get to learn to a part of my
Starting point is 00:45:52 liberty that's the the price that's a price of liberty that you can't, it's a part of liberty that it's correct, it's a great, it's a very, it's a very old galartist, and then you said that it said that it did that it had to do good to receive so much in a period of austerity and of coupure savage. We had changed the Prime Minister, but it was still the Libero who are at the
Starting point is 00:46:13 head of the province. That's a declaration, it's a pretty, I mean, it's a pretty dull, like a declaration. Yeah, but you've got to enter into by the Libero. Yes, but why, it's not a problem, so, that we confiscate the that every time that an artist that would have been, a aide to liberty,
Starting point is 00:46:29 it's pronounced on a subject like that, we'd like, you'd have to tear? Yeah, but at the same time, who proposes you know, you do it, you know,
Starting point is 00:46:39 you've got to be to get to your and there's a lot that's not that I'm going to be, that's, I'm not to be able to be doing with me.
Starting point is 00:46:48 You know, we can't, you can't be chie, I'm not to trouble with that, you're not don't, you're not
Starting point is 00:46:52 But I think not that they'd try. There are many also who have done there's a lot of
Starting point is 00:46:57 for them right. Yes, because it's because it has been very much there's,
Starting point is 00:47:01 and then, and some, and some some of ex-ministers who had to do capital that's true, I'm not
Starting point is 00:47:09 Chris, they're saying serious, it's serious, it's correct, they're not they're not of course
Starting point is 00:47:14 with me, it's correct, I'm not there's not there, I've been there some there,
Starting point is 00:47:18 there's not, there's not obliged to to be with me. And, no, serious, seriously, if you have
Starting point is 00:47:26 all of all, we're not we're not in a system of democracy, we're not in a system where we can
Starting point is 00:47:31 jazes because we see in the world, there's plenty of, guard in the United,
Starting point is 00:47:35 the people can be people, they're so, so I think, I think, I think,
Starting point is 00:47:40 you know, you're not that, he's not after that, it's, it's, it's not,
Starting point is 00:47:45 it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it, It's me who he said, okay, it's correct. Your sense of the indignation, it's where? Look, look at the world.
Starting point is 00:48:01 It's easy. You're not going to reason to be indignier. Facil, to be it. You're been like that, already, adolescent? I've always been the same. I've always been to be. I've always been, yeah. In fact, I'm a sponge at positive.
Starting point is 00:48:15 You know, when I'm in a place and it's positive, I'm going to remorse all. When it's negative, I'm remorse all, too. That's a problem. I have the misery to gregory. If it's anxiolytic at cause of the geopolitic or all, I'm going to become anxious. You know, like presently,
Starting point is 00:48:30 as cause of the gross march that I've been of Donald Trump. That's the etron Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm anxious. You know, I'm anxious of the situation in Europe, I'm anxious of what's what
Starting point is 00:48:45 is going to be in Africa, I'm anxious to the bank of Gaza, I'm anxious to the economy, of all, because we are I'm who is a fan of history, we're really in a mountain
Starting point is 00:48:56 that seems at the mountain of the 20 and the 30. And we know how it's the end up to finish
Starting point is 00:49:06 in Christ. 3945, I'll not call that a bell that. Your uncle Evarist
Starting point is 00:49:10 who has combated during this year that what he would be what he would be
Starting point is 00:49:16 at the point when he was at the point when he was not the level of conscience that, you
Starting point is 00:49:20 it's a He was a young man. He was a farmer on a firm where, like, there was a radio, perhaps in the village. At the new Brunswick, he said, at least, he was on, on his inscription, why you want to be able to get,
Starting point is 00:49:33 and he just marked two-fight, he'd be there's, so he'd be spogne with the world. He'd had to be sponging with his allies. There had some people. He had some of the other board, it's not peree, he had to punger some time, a time,
Starting point is 00:49:46 because, but he... But he'd have talked to all that when you're... We've been a lot. But when I was in front, I'd have made the war, but I couldn't not quite the second
Starting point is 00:49:57 war. Okay, my name, that's the second war. You know, I've that I've heard of the Canadiya that had made the
Starting point is 00:50:02 war, because if you'd see the cinema at the time, you'd just that had the American people, against the
Starting point is 00:50:08 Japanese and against the Germans, you'd just the American in all the films, it was all the films,
Starting point is 00:50:13 it's all the British, oh, oh, the British, oh, oh, the Canadians, who's carted the naviers,
Starting point is 00:50:20 in the first year, not the Americans, the Americans, they're going to enter more later. You know, all that, you can't feel like, I said, my uncle, he's batted, okay,
Starting point is 00:50:28 there's in Italy, poof, okay, okay, my uncle has seen the world to die, okay, my uncle has been
Starting point is 00:50:37 to be dead. It's also, we'll be... We'll be... It's all the problem. It's all the problem. The gas, it's not a show,
Starting point is 00:50:46 Chris. It's true. But the war, for me, it's the worst to do that. In the humanity, it's the worst thing. Because the war
Starting point is 00:50:57 it's entrain to what? It's an end uproment of the economy. You've no more of the food, there's no food, there's no medicine, there's no of the war.
Starting point is 00:51:08 For those who who are the subis, I don't know, for those who are chubes to make these bombs and the aviom full pin for for for fornir Israel
Starting point is 00:51:16 and then Ukraine and the chum a little partoo. Not that. It's paying for people. Because, no, there are not.
Starting point is 00:51:23 I think that the war is payante for the world. The First World War had been very payable
Starting point is 00:51:29 for the companies French and the other and then the companies American, it's very paying the
Starting point is 00:51:36 war. But it's an horror without no. It's terrible. It's the famine also. It's all
Starting point is 00:51:45 that, and we have constantly. it's cyclical. I think we're these imbeciles, of us men. We're trying to be
Starting point is 00:51:57 happy, we're tanning to be a man. We'll make the mark. We've got to start. We'll make a note sick of horror. And we'll arrive to the end up.
Starting point is 00:52:08 It's, hey, it's all right, we're going to go ahead. We'll go ahead. And we'll reaffirm, we'll reaffirm. We'll have the most never,
Starting point is 00:52:15 we'll never, You see, the First Guard Worldial, it's the d'air, the dare of the dare. The last year, it's the only, it's been. A desire, an espoor, that's not avaried. 15, 16 years later, they're on toped one who has made, you know, and he's made it to the bomb atomic.
Starting point is 00:52:35 Hey, it's joyous, I'd say. Let's talk about something of more joyous. In a galaxy, pretechey, you? Yes. Is there still things to say, there's a lot of you, who have never been told? You've said? Well, there's
Starting point is 00:52:48 a documentary, there's an interview, it's a series that's decontiqued, second by second. There's a third film that's you came to depose the scenario. Yeah, we've deposed the scenario. So, now, it's in the mind
Starting point is 00:53:02 of the institutions. So, we're at times. But what's what this series, prove, is that when the TV is audacious and it's the same thing to a certain point
Starting point is 00:53:10 with minuil the night, is that when the TV is audacious, it can give a very, very beautiful things. Is it you think that our TV is sufficiently audacious? Well, by the moment, yes, I think,
Starting point is 00:53:25 there's a question of budget also, now, I think that the TV has been punctualed for years and the years, so at a moment of a day, I'd say, it becomes a bit more familic,
Starting point is 00:53:38 the way for to do you know, today, we'll be that, we'd say, we'd say, we'd say,
Starting point is 00:53:44 we'd say, we'd say, we're going to be going to be that. And it's not about
Starting point is 00:53:48 there's a 19th two. No, oblivies that we can't not be nine two.
Starting point is 00:53:52 Because you, you regard pretty all the series now, it's found in
Starting point is 00:53:58 these clos, it's not so it's not much, it's just, and there's there's really
Starting point is 00:54:05 really, really, really, really can't make much of action,
Starting point is 00:54:09 Yeah, I can't have two shots in the same episode. We see, we're getting there. So, it's difficult. It's abrid the creation to have to be able to make these calculations when we write a scenario.
Starting point is 00:54:21 Yeah, and the famous adage, yes, but often the contraint to make a creativity of that, and I'm going to say, that's, that's, it's these
Starting point is 00:54:31 phrases at $1,000 for to make gobb that it's correct that we can't cut in your budget. That, I'm excuse, it's the same when you're a
Starting point is 00:54:39 government says, well, we're going to develop other, no, no, stop, when you cut, when you
Starting point is 00:54:44 cut, you cut not the creativity, but you cut the possibility to do something to do you, you look,
Starting point is 00:54:50 the platforms that's develop at a v. In the most of the people, in the
Starting point is 00:54:55 case, you look, you look, the series that are in many of the Scandinav of the
Starting point is 00:55:00 countries, some, even, of Africa, I'm, I'm the impression that they make
Starting point is 00:55:04 more more not to have to be. I don't know why. I don't not. I don't know how much. But it's difficult now. But as an artisan of this telete, you know, you know, we're you know, even the productors of now and all that. All right. All right. It's difficult. I'd have arrived with the project 19-2
Starting point is 00:55:24 today. He refused, it's sure. Personn't can't that. It's impossible. Even in the last year, we'll be able to try to have more, to have more, to have more, to patroo. Chris, he's going to be two guys in a jar. But in a meantime, our productors were very comprehensive there but I'm not sure
Starting point is 00:55:40 that we're not able to find in a fourth year. It's true that Canal Family you have made turn a pilot in France international? Yes,
Starting point is 00:55:46 in the galaxy. We've been we've been a bit of success malaisant that was radio infer. Successet malaysant
Starting point is 00:55:54 for, hey, it's me that got to get irritated? Do you know? Yeah, I've seen it for a little
Starting point is 00:56:00 moment. You've been so? And it's good. I could say, I could say, I could be vented for the rest of my life that I've
Starting point is 00:56:06 I've seen I've seen Claude Leggo rotter yeah rotter in retinue No, but it's a
Starting point is 00:56:14 all in finesse But it's like we It's like An rottenue To your Improvisation Livre
Starting point is 00:56:21 And for them A rot Subt Subt Oh, I'll place I'm To bring a
Starting point is 00:56:27 sifflet for that You're Okay Yeah Radio on fair Radio
Starting point is 00:56:32 Anfer Radio Offer, functioned at fond. It'd be like to say, we're not to be right. You don't
Starting point is 00:56:40 compete not. You're not I'm not. No, I'm not. I'm not in a state. No, okay.
Starting point is 00:56:47 It's been a great success Radio Anfer. And by the language in Radio Anfer he was sloppy. You know,
Starting point is 00:56:56 moat, and sloppy, and very keb. But the young, adored that. And it's good,
Starting point is 00:57:02 Radio Anfer. You can't think that it contributed to the success of the series. It's a very ingredient. It was natural. Very, very natural. And it was energetic.
Starting point is 00:57:10 It was a very good series. Yeah, played, being turned, well, realised. The Kid,
Starting point is 00:57:14 they'd capote there on the end up. We, we'd have, I think, people, not totally,
Starting point is 00:57:21 there were in a family, who had made that in all of their entire, and there
Starting point is 00:57:25 other, who there's not at least with the level of language. So, when we're
Starting point is 00:57:29 we're an impression that there that have who have wanted to say, oh, this new series we're not
Starting point is 00:57:34 not going to we're not we're going to get to get on the language. So, like,
Starting point is 00:57:38 they're made a pilot. But he wanted that we wanted to a French international,
Starting point is 00:57:46 which, for me, a language that doesn't exist not. The French don't
Starting point is 00:57:50 not not. It's the idea, that you're in fact with the result of
Starting point is 00:57:57 it's so that it's so that it's not both. It's not So it's a pat dame. You know, when you
Starting point is 00:58:05 listen an actress or an actor or a actor-jew, it's like to listen a musician. There's a music that's a music that's out of his mouth. A language, it's a music. It's a jazz or it's rock. The Quebecois is a
Starting point is 00:58:16 music particular. It's exists nowhere. It's not. The accent of Provence, it exists in Provence. The Antiet, he part in a way, the Magrebans
Starting point is 00:58:30 in a other way, they're in their French and they're their accent us. We do that.
Starting point is 00:58:37 And, well, the decor, it was not that's not color, it was a mission too baby.
Starting point is 00:58:43 There, it was also the time of, we're doing a focus group. It's correct.
Starting point is 00:58:50 And it's these people who have a science that we don't know we're not. We've
Starting point is 00:58:54 made a focus group. That's a public before the We're going to present. Yeah, and we, we're
Starting point is 00:58:59 cached the other side of the VIT, and we check our mission to find out of a piece. By the people who are not
Starting point is 00:59:04 necessarily of the specialists. No, but they're to be showing it's like, but you do it,
Starting point is 00:59:10 you know, you know, if you say, you know, it's almost to the aguilly to like,
Starting point is 00:59:18 not that, you know, but at a time, he had a reason to not like that, I'd say, we'd say,
Starting point is 00:59:24 we'd say, we'd say, he'd say, France International. It's the reason. The kid, it's not not. And the decor,
Starting point is 00:59:32 it's not that's not, it's been quite, it's quite, it's been, it's a lot. The pilot. Then we said,
Starting point is 00:59:40 well, we're not not far as, you know, we're not we're not, there's been there's a discussion. You know,
Starting point is 00:59:47 Jose Farsi? Yeah, a firm, very important in the world of the comedy. Very important in the life of Pierre
Starting point is 00:59:52 and me also. And, And then, and then she said, well, they're going to be, but he's not been, there's person who will tripe there on the comedy, it's a time. They're not doing it. They're not trying, too, it's not detain, like, in the family. But Charles Patnode can't tell you, in France International. Sean Patnod, he is at cheval all the time, and it's so that that's funny. But Guy, Guy, Guy, has jazzed his personality, he's he's fabricated, a little, a little.
Starting point is 01:00:19 But that, so, we've put that to side, the France International. And there, O EFSI, there was a demand to do that in front public, like Radio Enfer. We, we know, not in front public. The level of joy, you're obliged to have
Starting point is 01:00:32 another level of joy, plus theatrical, plus gullet, plus veller, we don't want that. And we wanted the 4th Mew for to put
Starting point is 01:00:42 to make some effects special, and we're in the space. It's important to send the wicklough.
Starting point is 01:00:50 They're all There's not They have no more They don't have chosen Yeah, yeah, it's so So, it's not, so it's got to be,
Starting point is 01:00:59 and after that, we'll make some re-en-en We said, we said, we They said, we all they said, we've got to
Starting point is 01:01:06 And we're done, we're there, we're not, we'll make not a rick on can, you know, we'll make not a rick,
Starting point is 01:01:12 so it's not that, so it's not been able to that, so it's all, we've had all all past these steps
Starting point is 01:01:17 there, but it had you've had to be your boot. Yeah, we, we. But we had some people who
Starting point is 01:01:22 were at our family, and there were I think they'd more what they'd be more, someone who's
Starting point is 01:01:30 my friend, I'm not, and I'm going to, and he'd have responded maybe because she'll make a point
Starting point is 01:01:34 not a joke. Pierre he can be quite also in these responses, so, but finally
Starting point is 01:01:41 we've, you know, I've read the book that William Shatner has written on Star Trek.
Starting point is 01:01:47 It was funny because at very little scale, we'd subissed a little bit the same problems that Star Trek, who risked to be flushed to almost, almost, you'd say, it's, it's going to be flushed, it's going to be flushed. We also, we had that in the first year, we have these cuts of semency, like, hey, that, we're not...
Starting point is 01:02:08 You know, it's not sure that we're not. Not to do. How you go, Claude? Yeah. Yeah. We're scared for you, for you, a little bit of years. Count me in that. When you've
Starting point is 01:02:20 your impugement, yeah, yeah, yeah. Until at how point you've
Starting point is 01:02:24 had to be at the beginning to the career where it's not quite a great thing. Is there a
Starting point is 01:02:32 moment where you've accepted all because when we had already had a fear
Starting point is 01:02:35 to not have of a job, we bring all what we're there. There's that,
Starting point is 01:02:41 but I think also, it's that I'm someone bordelic organized. I mean,
Starting point is 01:02:49 I know I'm a badelic so I'm organized. A bordelic that's it takes four more than
Starting point is 01:02:55 someone who is not a problem. So, to be organized it's a time, but I'm doing
Starting point is 01:03:00 so it's all the hours to eat. And so so, I'm, for almost 25 years,
Starting point is 01:03:09 I've rolled a cruture and I'm in same time. And create for the TV, it's an
Starting point is 01:03:16 business a saucer. You know, you're going to get in sort of some of the version, you know,
Starting point is 01:03:20 if you're at some of the deadline, it's not that you're going to be at the time, I'd
Starting point is 01:03:25 write at a time, I'm writing, and I'd even time, and I just, and plus. Joy,
Starting point is 01:03:31 it's not just just, it's, let's on 35 days of the tournage play,
Starting point is 01:03:36 but there there's 22 years where you have to learn of the text,
Starting point is 01:03:42 it's on to the journey where I'm going to write the text. So, there's
Starting point is 01:03:47 all that accumuling together. I'm not de demur. I've never had a gradator.
Starting point is 01:03:57 Thank you for the French international. No, French. No, French. I'm not
Starting point is 01:04:03 demer. It's not demer. It's not off. So, so when I travel,
Starting point is 01:04:07 I'm on off, and I don't think the button I'm the button
Starting point is 01:04:11 red is lit for long and he said, man, your
Starting point is 01:04:14 bad at the level of the essence for the long time. I've been the sun the light
Starting point is 01:04:19 glinted, it ignotate the oil with, the penu your face, you know, I'd say,
Starting point is 01:04:25 it'd time that I went to garage, yeah, it was in these moments that also
Starting point is 01:04:31 that, in these moments of febless that, that are naturally that are
Starting point is 01:04:36 that you problem, that you pelt to the country, they're remount in plain
Starting point is 01:04:42 face because that's not far. You can not they're going to
Starting point is 01:04:47 they're not at force they're not to be in their own and they're often accompanied
Starting point is 01:04:54 of other so they're like a train. They're like when you go to the
Starting point is 01:05:00 little number and you're at 36 and there you're all you have a time.
Starting point is 01:05:04 But it's your problem to you don't to you. In
Starting point is 01:05:08 your biographies you talk of the own to exist It's the expression that you're on the floor
Starting point is 01:05:14 who, at a little bit, who'd abetted when you were adolescent, before to encounter, to find the improvisation. What's the rest of that, in to say?
Starting point is 01:05:22 The honor to existe? Yeah. I said that, I said that's what you said, that's what you, that's written
Starting point is 01:05:28 your biography. Yeah, a mal to live. It's more, in fact, it's, it's not a person,
Starting point is 01:05:35 yeah, we're not a person, an hound, it's more, it's a, it's a, the merit of the
Starting point is 01:05:43 is what I'm is what I'm you know, we're talking in the book, I'm in the book, I'm in the of an accident. You've got to have a friend that's in, when I was in, when I was when I was 5 years,
Starting point is 01:05:59 we were two, and it's he's he who's dead. At because of a camion, It's a carmion that's a carmion that's he wanted to be a carvered like a flash
Starting point is 01:06:11 I'm just I'm gilled and the cabion he's made a job so the camion he's passed and it's
Starting point is 01:06:18 stopped there but I did all so so but but I'm too pretty I'm too
Starting point is 01:06:26 I'm I'm not any idea I'm I'm gonna after that and I'm an infant
Starting point is 01:06:30 I'm I'm I'm no idea that this this bomb that's installed
Starting point is 01:06:37 in me. This poison that's installed to see. I don't know that's been to get to be in
Starting point is 01:06:43 my own like a cancer that said, why you're not not partied why it's he's not
Starting point is 01:06:50 he's parted, why you're living and why he's dead and why he's these things things
Starting point is 01:06:55 things things, it's things. But that it's remount when you
Starting point is 01:06:59 when you a ado at adolescence, we're troubled, we're, we're talking, we're on the sort of questions.
Starting point is 01:07:07 We're still still in front, but we're going to be these demons have been remounted. So, I'm not conscious
Starting point is 01:07:15 of that. I'm not any idea that can be branched to whatever that, like that.
Starting point is 01:07:20 There's not just that, but there was so. So, yeah, I have, I'm, you know,
Starting point is 01:07:26 and then I'm , and then I mean, I'm saying all right, why I , of life.
Starting point is 01:07:34 And then, I'm sorry, I didn't think of this accident that for the years, years, but really, and I'd never, I'd really not, it was normalized. For me, it was like,
Starting point is 01:07:46 well, it's just that, I said, and at a moment, it's, it's not paid in the head. But poppy, there, you know, when these
Starting point is 01:07:56 affairs, that arrive, it's not, like, it's happened to, you know, you can be in trying to get an muffin, you, an afternoon,
Starting point is 01:08:02 in a lot of money, Pah! Why I'm trying to think to that? Do you see that's out? No, I said I've got any idea. I've got to go to the space with the galaxy.
Starting point is 01:08:15 I've got no idea where it's how much where it's the same. But it's because it's because it's a troughed in a lot and a Christy to boot, it's a trough of a miffin and then it's out.
Starting point is 01:08:26 Is it re-frey surface sometimes? Yes, but then, and then, and then, and then, and, same because now
Starting point is 01:08:31 Deny, I'm in my my friend yeah, yeah, I'm like a pain
Starting point is 01:08:39 with that, you know, sometimes in the moments difficult or in other affairs, it pop
Starting point is 01:08:45 in my head, so I communicate with like I can communicate with, like I
Starting point is 01:08:49 know, what's what you do you say to do you? Well, I said I'd
Starting point is 01:08:55 have a better than than that you'd be able to Guard, what I'm trying to do. Look, I'm trying to do. I'm trying to do.
Starting point is 01:09:01 I'm going to stay. I'm going to stay. I'm in five minutes. Yes, some of the time happens to think of that. Yeah, but it's not, it's not, it's, I train that like a,
Starting point is 01:09:15 a, um, a great phantom or a demon. It's like, what you want, it's happening, it's for that, you know, we're talking, we're talking,
Starting point is 01:09:24 we're talking to, you know, what's the, what's going to happen? to all these young that who live what's
Starting point is 01:09:33 what's what's in Ukraine and in Africa and in these war
Starting point is 01:09:37 and in Gaza and if I'm if I'm fockee because I've seen
Starting point is 01:09:44 a car because it's normal I imagine us I'm it's not
Starting point is 01:09:50 it's not too it's moffoon or no it's it will be it's
Starting point is 01:09:55 it's it's it's it's It's a little... Oof. You can't not rot even if you can
Starting point is 01:10:04 me help. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. What do you do pre-miner against a other epiluism
Starting point is 01:10:11 professional? I choose more. I say no, more often. So, I've got to consider to
Starting point is 01:10:17 choyier, that's accepted to be here today. I'd say but I'm not that, but I'm
Starting point is 01:10:22 don't know, it'd be to come. It's You're going to animate a gala, just for air, at Quebec? At Quebec, yeah. And it's not your first
Starting point is 01:10:32 path in the world of the humor because you've collaborated with comedies in the last year. You've even participated there, there are several, years years,
Starting point is 01:10:38 a day, a showery, in 1914. Yeah. I've made the tour just for a year of 2014, with Christian
Starting point is 01:10:49 Bejain, Patrice Cochro. That's not that? Yeah, written by Pierre-Irne, me, and Christian. And it was a stand-up? But a lot of sketch, a lot of sketch
Starting point is 01:10:57 with a link there was a year there's a bit of that, and we've made the tourne of Quebec with that. We've had you fun in our tabooat.
Starting point is 01:11:04 At what that was to be resembling, your galette? It's, well, it's a lot of I can't
Starting point is 01:11:11 not talk about these themes if I'm going to me far assassinate in certain, there's a guy with a bizarre that I'm suede
Starting point is 01:11:15 before two years. There's a sniper, yeah. Yeah, it's strange. I don't know of our language
Starting point is 01:11:20 he's like, I think, Mafia Chechen, I'm not too. But it will be I'm resembling. I think my my virtue,
Starting point is 01:11:30 I want to do with the whole with the public. It's really, because I've done many, I've done with with Sylvain LaRock. And I tripe
Starting point is 01:11:41 we're in tandem, but I want to be all right, but I'm really on with the world in my number of overture. After that, I've privileged
Starting point is 01:11:49 these sketch with people in the galah. And he will have my presentations also. I'll have my presentations also. But my job also is to am amuse me and to go ahead and get to enjoy my pleasure to me, but I've got to work. It's one of the great moment of my life
Starting point is 01:12:12 presently. Yes, yeah? But in plus, I can't rotte. I've not eaten. We've had started the interview at midi. Ah, it's that. It's my fault. It's me who called at midday.
Starting point is 01:12:23 I didn't want to blame, but, effectively. You've got to be able to do you. You've got to incarnate at a other time. I don't know. I'm going to be a mission that created a lot of controversy that has been retired to the antenna rapidly. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:38 In what you know, you know? I think, I'm in the love, the real, it's to say, who he comprehends the empathy, the solidarity. It's in that that I think. I don't know if I I think I'm not in God or whatever.
Starting point is 01:12:56 I'm not... Is your position has to be assupley with the years or it has always been the same? My position over the religion
Starting point is 01:13:04 not is assupley and it's redid and I think that you can't be not to find more rabble than that. I'm fonsherment
Starting point is 01:13:11 laic. I think the laisity protect the religions, protect the religions, it should continue
Starting point is 01:13:17 to be laic. The religions, I, I, I have due respect for Who do you believe, I have no problem with that. But, I don't know any of the religions who
Starting point is 01:13:28 want to be seen as in the domain public and in the politics. That's no. It's always no. Let's the imam, the rabbin, the priests, the curate,
Starting point is 01:13:40 the curts, the curts, the curts, they don't have in our own, they don't have to our laws, they don't have in our schools.
Starting point is 01:13:49 That's, I'd change never of the idea. Because when he grand, it's fudu. But the idea of the
Starting point is 01:13:53 transcendence, you're open to be able to a certain point. Transcendance? Well, there's
Starting point is 01:13:57 something of more. Well, I look at the nature and I'm said, I'm interested
Starting point is 01:14:03 by the space. When you regard the space, you interest to the space, it's a
Starting point is 01:14:08 unble, Blan Tabarwood. Because it's the human that has decided in these cross-
Starting point is 01:14:14 that the world is the center of the universe. And Chris, they'll have you
Starting point is 01:14:19 rated the shot. It's It's really not so. We're even not a grain of sand in the universe.
Starting point is 01:14:26 And when you say, I'm not talking I'm not to ask you. Yeah. And you're not to have not
Starting point is 01:14:31 a ban to have anything. No, I confirm that I'm not fueing. Okay. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:14:36 but the universe, he has a, okay. He can't there. But there where he
Starting point is 01:14:42 then, it's what after? It's what that's what that contains an universe? There,
Starting point is 01:14:48 suddenly, I have the impression to have fuming a bit, and what is the
Starting point is 01:14:51 container that contain the universe, you know, I'm saying, we can't to believe, because there's a lot of
Starting point is 01:14:59 us over the other. So, yeah, I'm not going to and the people have to believe
Starting point is 01:15:03 to believe, also, it's a good-beye of the religion, I'm not a problem
Starting point is 01:15:09 with that. The enrolment negative in the religion, the supercheries in the religion, as we go to
Starting point is 01:15:16 the United presentment, Trump, who's mad to the gang of clun and the salopopards,
Starting point is 01:15:20 of fascists, and the salopards, I understand that you don't I like you don't like that Trump I'd say I'd like, I'd like, and then I'd say, I'd have voted these laws that would have
Starting point is 01:15:29 uprovere, and really to have done, Jesus, oh, Jesus, Lord, man, farm to the year, man, is a little, they're even not jane, in plus. They're even
Starting point is 01:15:41 not chained. So, no, no, no, the religions, pried, most, the mosquets opened, There's no trouble, but rest at your place. Claude, this balado,
Starting point is 01:15:57 it's entitled, Just Between You and Me. For real? I'm not, no, farce. It's not just between a rote and me. Is there a last thing, or a rote, what you do you? A rote, what you'd. A good.
Starting point is 01:16:14 Thank you. Can't. You'll invite, in our gal, just for it. A good show of moor. Depends, the Calambeau, I hate that, but I think it was good. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:16:22 It's a little thing to say? Have you a last thing to be to be able to? Well, yes, and all the people who are, all the people
Starting point is 01:16:31 the people who are. The 10s of million. The 10s of million. What's what I'd say? I can't say I can't say quite say quite, I'm going to
Starting point is 01:16:42 start to start to play hockey. Oh. You've played in a league of games? No, it's a long time. I've been not played.
Starting point is 01:16:47 I've been blessed but it's been operate, but then I'm going to start to play at deck hockey. You play at which position? I'm defensive. It's on the last
Starting point is 01:16:56 to turn. I'm not great. I see. I'm not great. I'm not, I'm not. I get it. There's been like a judgment in your face?
Starting point is 01:17:03 No, no, no, but... No. You think I'm a player of attack? Well, yeah, an attacker, a center that's on a center that's foe, or an
Starting point is 01:17:11 ally who's... No, I'm a defenseer, but I'm a very good defenseer defensive, but I'm very good in offensive also. I mark a lot of defense.
Starting point is 01:17:19 You play in the two sense of the pastoral. I'm going to be in a lot of 45. I'm everywhere. Is who your defender preferring? Presentment? Well, no, no, in the whole history of the hockey professional. Oh, in all the history, my preferring, it's Larry Robinson. All right.
Starting point is 01:17:39 Raymond Bourke, yeah. Yeah, it's my book. The Big Tree. You know, Guy La Point, it's the Caccio. It's like a cellio. It's a good. It's a very good. Barbillor.
Starting point is 01:17:49 Barbiard. We're able to be able to get to be able to get to be able to do not. No, I know not as to
Starting point is 01:17:56 my hockey, it's jeanan. In fact, it's just my regard to deputies, is that I wanted to
Starting point is 01:18:01 say that I had a bit to make the foot to make a man, we're doing the patin
Starting point is 01:18:06 in the bush. The patty, yeah, it's far as. Yeah, it's pretty bad.
Starting point is 01:18:10 It's been very sexy. I feel like like Pott, I just let's You're going to be the bruce continue. But, I'm more, I'd like to talk, I'd have to go ahead of a new line
Starting point is 01:18:23 of open to sport because, you know, we're talking of the trophies that are remitted at each year, a marker, a major player of attack, a better attacker defensive.
Starting point is 01:18:36 I'm in accord. Why, at each year, the price of the mayor defender is given to the defenseer that has the plus of points? Because it's
Starting point is 01:18:46 because it's measured, the performance so measure quantitatively while that a game defensive is being, the deal
Starting point is 01:18:52 blocky? The mayor affatacant defensive. Why? And why we don't not a
Starting point is 01:18:57 major defencerer and a major defenseer offensive? Two trophies. Because I
Starting point is 01:19:04 think the defencers are never recompensed. It's in just. It's been my statement.
Starting point is 01:19:13 It's telling important in the world actual. Hey, now,
Starting point is 01:19:15 your agent and will say, Claude, you have to talk about, with the declarations incendiary. No,
Starting point is 01:19:19 but all the defencers defensive will be called me and say, thanks, man. Thank you, thank you.
Starting point is 01:19:26 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. It's a patina. Oh, we're not just patine, we've done and we've done
Starting point is 01:19:33 and we've done and we've done we've made, we've been we're right. We're just between you and me
Starting point is 01:19:42 Oh

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