Juste entre toi et moi - Cœur de pirate

Episode Date: September 22, 2025

Alors que parait le septième album de Cœur de pirate, Cavale, Béatrice Martin parle de la fin du monde, de son amour pour le saxophone et de son anxiété, sa « plus longue relation toxique à vie ». Elle revient aussi sur son coming out et sur la folle effervescence de son début de carrière.

Hello, here, Dominique Tardiff, a good A just, between you and me, welcome to an episode in which it is question of what I like, of what I like the most to the world, a part my blonde and my female,

by my question of music in this episode and I've had the bonner of music with no

other than that's a man, Beatrice Martin. Beatrice Lance the 26

September next, so in a few days, a pen, she lance her

seventh album, seventh album, this album that is entitled Caval, she will amorms a tourn

to Quebec in November, in November next, she is also the president and directress artistic of

his etiquette Bravo Music. We can say that has been of her a woman not much

occupied. I've learned during this and I was very happy to that

that Beatrice is a fan of Bruce Springsteen Bruce Springsteen which I'm also

also, I'm a very grand fan. We're a certain moment of the album

Nebraska of Bruce this album Bruce, he was registered alone in a caban in New Jersey. He was sure that what he

was registered at this moment that was these demos and not a very album. This history

will be brought to on the grand screen in a film that's entitled Deliver me from nowhere.

I'm very hard to see that. And I do you all that you know,

you know, what we talk in this part of my interview with Beatrice

and also I also I do all because it's It's also pleasure to you remember that you can read

the article that I've written of this encounter in the Press Plus on the Press.C. or the applymobile of the press. And, here, without more tardy

my entretion with the sensible Coeur of Pirate. Just between you and me it will be it will be It's rester between you and me.

For a one for a while, it's between you and me. You're not, because because we're because we're in proximity, and that I've been to sing, I'm sorry, to chant. I'm sorry. Not that I'm not not that I'm not going to be

not quite, no, I'm not trying to. I've got anything but I'm just, absolutely, absolutely. We're not what the epit damoclese what's the epit of damoclese that's odd that you don't of what? But you know, I've received Pierre LaPointe here recently, although he danced

his more recent album and he also, he's on in France And he was like... A few days after our interview, and he's excused to not be able to. We're just correct. We're...

I'm happy. I'm sorry. You're going to be in front of me. It's a lot of. And it's magnificent. So, it's perfect. I'm content to get to be it. It's a long time.

It's a long time. Yeah. I think... And then, I don't have to be meant to me venty, but I'm maybe one of the first person to have made an interview with you.

I think that we... You confirm? I think that, if I remember if I remember Well, yeah, it's 18 years. Yeah, it doesn't really, it's a lot of, but... So, you've had a affair to Dominique Tardiff, poor expigmented.

Well, I'd say not that, because it's an other epoch also, but... It's so, the mensual, musical, underground, bang, bang. It's so. Patrice Caron, the director-in-chef, me had said, there's a girl-de-pirate, it's called Carre de Pirate.

Go see that on MySpace. There's plenty of words in this phrase. It's really a other time, like, the people could not know what we're talking about. And I remember that there was a rapper French, that had a project that's called

Caird of Pirate, and during a little moment. Oh, yeah, the people were, I had been to ask a interview with a rapper French, no, if it's a female

of Montreal, has made a music, cano. Yeah, it's a random. Yeah. But there's plenty of other rapper French who have

made some projects that's called Coeur of Pirate by the suite. For real? Yeah, there's a there a lot of

that's called Kour of Pirate. I didn't that's also popular when I thought this name that. Is that

We're doing I think we're I'm going to Okay, it's good You know, I'm just I'm not I'm not really I'm really

I'm really I'm better than I think of this 8th year It's your 7th album It's my seventh album We're not

On the album For trauma And percide It's like I'm just the piano It's just the piano It's the fun It's the fun

It's the fun It's your album dancing You know Yeah, he's A bit Is that you're The same

To see the to find it? No, no, but it's true that I have a tendency to make the songs extremely gloke on the music that dance. Yes, it's not because we dance, that's that's more joyous in a plan of the themes.

Exactly. But it would be the first time that we'd dance would, although the words, they're more sound. No, and I think that's important to see a bit of the light at the end of the tunnel, because the, there are a little particular, and then it's an album that's an anxiety, so I just said,

to talk to talk to talk to things very stressful like the end of the end of

we're going with a time with a bit more joyeuse. Just on the album, the third

piece is the time the time the time the time it's the time

it's kind of charged as form it's a point. We're a little the last

in a certain fashion. In fact I'm I'm think I'm on the facts,

on the state of the state of the ecology and the people who are

to the power, it's very that it's a bit a bit more you know, it's a you can, you can't you know,

we're in the last generation to be able to be profited to this better than I'm afraid

for my children, I'm sorry, but I'm mean there's there's a hope, there's a

humanity is like we have to get in life, you know? Is that you're in this anguish

that, this anxiety, that, this anxiety, that, the destiny of the question, there's

there's a lot, it's a not really a scoop, No, no, it's... All the most know that I'm a person

very stressed it's, it's the source of many problems and of my problems and of health, but it's

very that, you, we have a issue of the ecology, and I'm the more of my part of this ecot

anxiety, is that even we've made the effort, we, unble mortal, the millionaires, they're not

not going to, and it's they're responsible of the damage, who's on so, we can't,

I'm I'm saying, I'm doing, I'm doing, I've done, I've done, I've done, And I'm saying a bit in the song,

it's that we're going to continue to live our life and to exist, because the people who are doing to doggis, they continue to do with all the same also, you know, so. So, it's a great manner to start this interview. This interview. What relation to

entertain with the music danceante, you? I have a very, I have a very relation to that. I'm a person who, I'm a the day, but who not do not the night.

So for me, it's because that's a person very anxious. So I said, the album, he talked to the thing, he talked to

these things like, it was what, the current musical that for me illustri the year's the 80. The destiny

of the fluid? The destiny of the fit, the abundance, of the time, we're saying, it's these times

uncertain, but also very, the people, there had but it was uncertain, but there were a lot of drama, but there had a lot of uncertainty at the level of the politics or other.

And there had been a movement musical that's created because he started to have an innovation at the level of the production musical. So, it's so that that's interesting, even if there are a lot of years of 80, like a period of the year of 80, like a period, a little kitsch,

a little bit of 10, because it's very that, you know, there's a lot of people that say, oh, you know, the album of Estones that's out of 1980s, it's the most well, because, you know, it's this current that, I'm... So, I'm...

So, so... But it's, it's, it's... it's... ...and it really innovation musical, and... why not,

rend a little homage to that in this album that, while I've always been someone that very acoustico, you know, piano, guitar,

all that, very, very... We're... We're... We're... ...it's a... ...it's a... ...it's...

...it, it's... ...it, it's... ...and... ...you... ...and... It's okay, why not? They're having some fun. In the first song,

you make cards on table, there's a solo of saxophone. And it's not any sort of cello of saxophone. It's a solo of saxophone well fromage. There's a good cushion of

gratined in this solo. I like this solo. My God. It's wonderful. It's good. It's good. Jubilator. Is what you

do you offer a play-doyer for rehabilite the saxophone? Absolutely. I, I, I, I like, Bruce Springsteen. But now we have so in common, Beatrice, you know.

Yeah, it's, yeah, it's the Rolling Stones, but I like both Springsteen of this epoch, the years of 1980 also, you know, I've got many Nebraska also, and, you know, all the things are all right, all the film that's going to start just there soon, I'm going to, I'm going to...

I'm sorry. Jeremy Allen White, in the role of Bruce, it's going to be good. And just on the sort of this album, what is really specific, but... Yeah, but it's a story that's fascinating, because, well,

you know, I don't know, I'm not to tell you, but... But there's a commenter also on the fact that, you know, when you're a person of this level that, is it the people that tend

to the same to the same thing? So, he's out of the album, that's completely inattended. Yeah, it's the album that

came just before Born and the USA who is his album the most saxophone. The most saxophone. And I,

I've been born in the USA, obviously. Yeah. And so like, like, like,

like, yeah, but yeah, and, and, no, and it's, for me,

Kval, it's really a song that, she's very nostalgic that song that that's a lot of my adolescence

that's a fact that I got had used a kick on one of my family and she has like, she'll have

to be talking to me after that. For me, I wanted, like this ambiance that,

I wanted a song with several steps also so that so it be a bridge, that it's

that's a break, that it's solo of saxophone because it was to show

the steps of realization in this situation And it's a tooth that I'm that's a lot of fun to do you have ever seen a spectacle, Bruce?

No. No? No. But it would have to you remedi to that? Yeah, but I'm... Yeah, absolutely. It's my rave.

But, you know, it's like the Santa Belle, all the time. I like, I like, I like, I'd have made it to have a situation a little more... Intim?

Intim. So, so if Bruce were available to go to go and... If he's... If he's... If he's... If you...

A year, I... The Metropolis or... Sure. Okay. But how is you've been fan of Bruce, because there's, it's a matter of

because there's, it's a matter of, you know, you know, if there's, for the people who are in Montreal,

in the years, there were the Montreal Sound that we called, and there were many bands, Wolf Parade, like Wolf Parade,

Arcade Fire, the unicorns, all that, who have, at the base, if you'd listen, a bit of Bruce.

Many, but you're saying, even, even, even a burst. It depends The songs, it depends of albums,

but we're reconnolly the influence of Bruce. The influence is there, and even if you go in the things that

that worked in the Empire Weekend, all the The killers. The killers, many, yeah. There's a lot of music

that, because I was a very young, I was said, well, it's what that's what he resumed to do

it's been more in my life, after after having passed all of adolescence to listen, like, you know,

there's things more rock than the years 70 for to go to the IMO very random.

But a very of Bruce Springsteen in the email also when you think there's there's a

there are a bit, but the part of Bruce is everywhere in the music, yeah. Very,

at the American, so, so, obviously, I'm sure, I've started to

tryper there at this moment that. So the song Caval, it is inspired

of an story of an, because in listening, in listening the text, the song,

we devine that, we know that is question of an story of love that's not functioned,

but we don't know that's a question of a few? Because it's I'm not used? In fact, if I'm not in the context,

you'll be more to understand, in the sense that it's situ in the time. So, you have to, when you read

the words, you know, I'm talking, I'm talking, I'm talking to stuff like, you know, you're like,

in 2007, and you're American Apparel, and then, you see, you know, you've worked to American Affair.

Yeah, I've worked the boutique of T-shirt. The people were very problematic, Yeah, very, very, very, very problematic. The property of the American Academy.

Very, very, very. But it was an epoch, Montreal, in that, it was cool. You know, it's, you know, they'd out in, like, in the club, like, like, you know, like, on zoosobbizre.

On zoe, it's so. And it was, it's all fun, and it was like, and I was, I started to discover who, you know, who I was, my orientation sexual,

all that, and I had used one of my I mean, who I got a kick on, I got a kick on, and the day she'll have tried, she'll have to be talking. And then, at least of the moment that, I'm like,

firmed the door there's, I'm saying, okay, it's too complicated, if I go to see, I'm going to reject, I can't live this kind of of, you know, constantly. So, I'm going to

go to the girls, it's more simple. That's what you're what I guess. I guess. I guess. I imagine. And I'm just to be able to live

plenty of things, I guess. But I'm just for to say that it's a song that really of this time that the fact

the anxiety of the coming out of all, of all of that's a letter that I'm

written to I'm going to I'm saying, you it's like, in fact, you're to be able

to be plenty of things. Maybe you're to be plenty of things also.

I don't know, I'll see not, you know, I'm not in plus, I'm crossed

some people this person and at every time, oh my God, P.A., the child. That's

that, and I pass my spine. Is it you think that she will hear of the

song? No, I don't. No. But what you just that you have been to

talk about, it's an story that many people live. It's an experience universal for the

sense where the first of the first of that, that, that's not reciprocal, he men

a repression of what you are really profoundly profoundly. It's of a great of a

There's no, there can continue in their lancet and it's super because it's

When you, you know, when you come in a case a bit, I was particularly, because I didn't even not the term sexual at this time I didn't really not.

So, so I didn't be able to me place to, so it was more simple for me to go, because it's that I was sure that

I had no representation at that time that so. So I'm going to go to that naturallyly, by default.

There are some people that it's a gas today, there are many more people, there are many to create

these identities, these orientations sexual, but it's it's a name and to identify our our desires?

Yes, absolutely. And to identify or see identified it's important, it's important, it's a visibilise also so much.

And then I'm I'm really content today to know that there there's a perip of term that, a lexique

complex that represent well as how I'm and the people more young, those who

are coming to arrive in this world that eventually it's genial. I've I forgot that when you

had made your coming out it was in the full of the attack that's not due Arlendo. Yeah,

and the context was like a bit, you know, it's sure to be at to do it today,

maybe I'd have done, I'd have done differently, but I think that it at a moment

where is in a relationship with someone with who I had really in love

and I had really really need to be to create on all and I just like

it's like I've re-gue a coming out of my identity even, So, it felt

that I'd say it's very high very far. I'm content to have done it because it's

there's there's been there's been there's people who are there are people who have been

to be able to my associate to something they were that they were super but I

've been very much of pain also by that there's a yeah yeah

there had there was there there was I think the people didn't

not it was really complicated to navigate I think that if I had been with a same, it's the genre it would be more simple but because I was with a woman trance. It was complicated.

It was complicated. It was. Yeah, a lot of things. Yes, is it in 2016? Yeah, it's a little bit to be,

we've, we've progressed by that. We've got, like, to finally, to come, to come back,

to, it's really it's really it's really, because I see not what's going to what's going to, we live

in a reflect of what's pass politically and it's a damage because even if we're doing a

lot of people every every year, I'm saying they're maybe they're going to be there's

there's there's a way but we're never at abry so it's sure that it's sure that I'm worried

I'm that I'm stress it's for my girl also my fee I mean

I mean I'm more confidence that will be capable to her progress in this world

but I'm very bad in influence of certain media on the guys on the

like they're like that what's you're stressed is that your face to find in grip

by the ideology masculineist. It's I don't if you have seen the podcast rabbit hole

of New York Times which is very and it's very, I mean my marriage I look at

let's say my my colleague let's let's do you don't do the same suffice

that you be a little bit influenceable if you can get in something

very sombre. It's difficult after to detricote that in the spirit of a person that's avaled by this ideology that.

Absolutely. That's you've taken how much of time for to find the way to try to this moment

of reject of this girl who has inspired the song cavale and what has been

to your coming out in 2016 and today. I think the age, you know, like,

like, d'an in an year you're to learn, you're trying, I've done, you know, I've ever been my 20thene in the eye of the public.

So, you know, my errors of fey in the 20thens, I've lived in front of all the world. So, you know, you know, and you're saying, error, it's nothing to reprehensible? No, no, absolutely not. No, but I'd just live my life. And, you know, obviously,

nipot of who, in the 20thens, okay, we'll say, like, when you're in the 20thene, you're like an adult. It's really, everything, it's amplified, it's intense, you know, I see, I see,

I see, I, you know, When I see my three years, you know, who's like to be a old, you know, I'm going to be

with the people who are a little little bit more than they're, they're all their life and they're, they're, they're,

they're stressed, you know, they're like, they're trying, but in the time, they want to be more mature,

and more and I, I know, I was, you know, I'm like, I was, so I was so that I'm talking

to get with the world more to get to, it's for that, you know, but I'm, but I think, to live,

to live, his life in the 20thene before everyone, it's sure that your errors,

your defies, you're in your life, and that it creates a lot of anxiety. Is that

normal? I'd repensate to all to what you have vows to go 2008, the year of

your first album and 2012 at a pretty, but even after, but that

these four years that it's the moment that it's very intense for you. There was

a very great effervescence around to your person? Is it normal to live that at the age of 20 years, at the end of the 20thens? No, I don't think not that it's normal.

It was beautiful. It was fun. I was really content. And I had had a chance. There were not even the radio social at the level. Or more, let's talk, like, today, it's a fool. Today, I mean, you've got, you become known, the perception that you have of yourself and is amplified by all the modes of media possible.

It's extremely... And by all what we're invoire. Exactly. That, it's very hard if you're a little bit more than secure, more than stressed. It's really special.

I mean, at the time, I was just the top iTunes and the concerts. And then, you know, and MySpace. But, you know, MySpace was like, there were not,

you know, there's not a lot of people. You know, there was a lot, but, you know, it was very, like, I didn't, it's really

droll, I was absolutely not, I'm able to quantify my success. So, at the time, I was, I lived my

life, I was just me to find to recognize in the street but not

time. And I'm probably in spectacle. And in a spectacle it was very special

because there were people who had many of their children, the children and they

were in the kids, and you know, when you have never seen that or when you, in

fact, you're not, you can't, you know, to see, to see, to see, to see,

in this situation that with these children, it's, just for to touch, just for

to talk while you've been an whole of your life, it's very special.

And that's not necessarily who you were? Exactly. I was like 19, 20, 20, that's quite

normal. So, that had been a bit bit bizarre at to live, and after that when I

came to the second album, I just, I just, it's, it's, it's,

it's, it's, it's, it's, I'm, got, depression, consensate,

I'm, I'm in a relation not super sane, and it, And it's it's a time

before to have a blonde, which is the second album. Yeah, because the

pressure was an amount. In listening your new album, and in listening the

first thing, it was about the question of what you have told, but I know,

I was a question of an history of an question of that you have not abutied,

in the in which you have been in which I've invested to my story of my life

of my life adult and and I'm It's so nisue to consecrate to energy

to be in situations that's that's clearly will be to be in a cut of

do you do you do the same about sometimes, to have to have consacried too

to time. I think it's a super good songs. Yeah,

that's so it's fun. We can do it. Is that more

suffering or too like, live these things very intense, yes,

I'd have made so, but it's that's that it is so that is that you consensurate really

more than time to this kind of situation that, that's that's been amical or other, you really, you really, you're really,

I'm very, I'm very, I'm very, I'm very, but it's too made a menace. I've too made, I'm too

made, I'm too, but no, it's for so that I'm found out of this album that,

face to a kind of because for long time, I've written long time, I've been, my life,

ammarous, it's quite, who, who, who, just to write these songs? Well, no, because

I'm that maturity and sages at the ob to my 136 and put a stincal in the eyes in saying that. But is it

obligatorably that you live some things for to write some yes, no. In the sense that I rest kind of

someone who is capable to talk to do the poise I can't reprint the affairs that me are

and I'm able to create the songs there too. I will continue to live these things in my

life. I can I can't write of this album that's album like this album I'm honestly,

I'm not able to create to write a song for during a question I'm a question with Gabbouchard

who is a other artist that I'm very much, he said, it's what you live in this moment,

it's what that's what you're doing, it's right, you're right, you're right, you're right, I'm, you're

that's that that's that that's what you have parted the machine. What's what's the thing is,

is the nascent of your name of Arlo, he had used the context of pandemic, and there had been the

acquisition of the label, and all of all the same I think that made a create a kind of of a void

where I was not able to, at the time, I was in the same time, I was in the same I didn't

not on what to write, I didn't not, I'm at that because the milieu musical

changed much, and I see, I know what what's what he works on the

talk on the and other. And I didn't, what I was what I did that I don't, I don't know.

So, although, of a view exterior, we could say, Choir of Pirate, it's a figure established, and it's sure and certain that a new album

will interest the Quebec, the French. It's not a given, like the people say in English. It's not, all the time, we can

disappearate. I think, I said that when I was 18 years, I said, I'm still, I don't, I don't know what

what he was going to be. But it's also what I was to say, by what I had to say, you want to do you want to do, you know, you know, I don't know, I didn't know if I had

on my place. Yeah. And how, so is what do you have, re-truve the way to, just at your piano

and just to the composition of a new song? And I've been my more long relation toxic in life, which is my

relation with anxiety. I'm a person who has a trouble, angiue, generalized. It's extremely

prenant, and then it's traduies in plenty of different. I've, in the album, I've seen,

the fear that all the fear to your own own person, the fear of the fear of

the more, it's these things very, very sympathetic, but it's me ronge

at all the day. Accepted you to us the text, the debut the text

of the song pensed intrusive? Oh, O'-l-l-la. Which is the song the

most bulvercante of the album. Oh, you think? Yeah, it's really it's,

it's completely entered in. Ayoy, because it's, let's see. I'm fear to I'm afraid,

I'm afraid to finish in the oblivie, I'm to play, that the time of a

fall of a passageer, when it comes the time to think to what I'm to be

to be the power of the crue and new, but the void my spire, I live

than for what they're in retires. You're afraid to fall to in the oblivion? Well, because my existence is directly linked to the

perception of the people. It's fool, huh? It's true to say that, but it's true because

it's been 18 years, I've been so long in a court of pirate that I've been

Beatrice Martin, so, it's that, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's all my

life, it's so. But the mal matures, I'm you can't that more in this

piece that? What's what it is that? Is it bad or it's tragic, that? But it's what it's I'm not an entertainer? Are we not entertained? We are entertained. It's that.

In gross, it's that that's what I've also, even with my life private, you know, who was finally, like, who'd be doing the clickbait for long time.

Today, it's really really, because I think the people, you know, with the resources, you can really more to be more to express and, like, if there's something

that'd just it's going to do. It's going to do. It's going to be clear, but also I think there's a disinterest for that also of my part,

because I have a life very normal. But, for long time, it was like many, my life, personally,

it was for the divertment of people, and there's a and it's a part of the game. And the people say often,

but it's the method that you have chosen, you know, it's that you dove live. And, and in a certain

fashion, I'm sure, But it's been an adaptation when I started to do that. It was not pre-pue that's not

something that I said, okay, let's do this. It's something that's happened a little by accident, an eerie

accident, and then I'm very happy to do that, but it's been an adaptation, really. I know

there's a advice that Julian Dore, the chanteer has offered a day who is cher to your heart?

it's the question? To be to be what he would say? I think he would say

to guard my life private for me. And you have not not heard. Not that

I'm not not that's that I couldn't not exactly at which because I'm very close

to my public and I think it interesting to partage certain things also

I'm I'm partage not I'm quite I'm quite because if we're in

an air So, especially, today, of partage. You see, I don't know if you pass a bit of time on TikTok and all. Not on TikTok, but on Instagram. But on TikTok, it's a lot of the partage. The people, it's over-partage, okay? And it's really like that in this moment.

And I think it's the fun, because we're like it's a de-complexed, and at the time, I was it was not very decomplexed, again. So, the people, he prenazs it really, like, seriously. But I, but I've always to do it, I think you, you know,

You have you to protect but I think it's important also to have a proximity with the people who you're because he you're listening.

So what's what we can do you know, because you're not the first person who's not the problem that represent all these

sites of the piage to click. Yeah, the piage to click. Who repren these publications

who are often very inoffensive who quave that of a tit sensationalist and then that can be

transformed in problem for you. It can create, we'll we'll devine well, the emotions

disagreable to the people who there's questions. We're all all of course that's the life that you

have chosen just at a certain point, but you have not you've been a development new, in the

sense that when I was it existed not really that, it was very, when you did it when you

did a article, an interview, you know, the article, it was really, like, it was super

minuciue, and it's, it was, like, there were a, you, there were a, there, there were a lot of

research, and then, there you know, you know, you're just more than I, I mean, you know, there's a generalist, but there's been a sort of with the intelligence artificial, today, it does

be a thousand-foyer, but there's been, there's a kind of progression to get something to more sensationalist, and it's that, you know, I, I've,

I've been, I've been, but today, I think that with the recule, I'm saying, honestly, it's really not very grave.

It's really not very grave, and I'm affected. I think that when you're when you're at a certain age, we'll say, I'm actually, I'm at the end of my 36

years, we're going to we're going to be more. Gere's at this advantage, that. It's that. But it can create the detress to the people who are the subject

in these articles. 100%, and you know, you know, you know, the tele-reality who have vied these real, big problems because, you know,

There's been a lot of course. It's kind of important. It's a lot of fun of parley, but no, no, no. And what's also frustrating to my little point of view to me, is that we're going to talk about one hour. And then, it's possible that. Well, yeah, it's true. The 30 second, the 30 second, the most juteous, and they will be out of their context.

We're going to have done for nothing. All the beautiful conversation that we've got to have used. But it will be able to hear the podcast. And, you're totally mature. I see. You see. You see. You see.

the view of the Bocote. In January, you'd have participated to an conversation with Alexandra Strilleski for the press. And you

he said at the moment that that you were not capable to measure the quality of your songs. You're at the

creation of the album that you launch these days. At the when he's about to be launched

is, is that I'm not capable? I'm still not capable. I think I had

I had so much more confidence in me at my career and then after, I mean after, I mean

after, I was saying, I was doing, I'm in trying to do they're in doing it's really bad, you know,

I'm more, you know, I'm trying, let's turn. And then, that's, that's really good. Because there's

there's a album where I really have really had some experience very cool in time as fan of music

in the sense that when I did I'm when I'm in Swede with Bjornitling and then I was

I was saying, I was just all at Stockholm, you know, I was in the studio mythic or, like, Dicely, she'd be able to

and then I'm a royal of the pop. It's a royal of the pop, that's so. So, obviously, there were

in my career where I was really, I was choyed. Now, I was choyed also. I was super content,

and I was with Renaud and with Nicholas Prichko. It's really a moment where I'm

tripeed. But there always a You know, there was always a part of me that's like, but I don't if it's good.

I don't. I could not you'd be able to you'd be because more you viey, more you'd doubt of your

own capacity. And also the context actual that I don't what's what's going to be there to someone who's

really special, but it's mysterious for all the people who do part of the music, person doesn't

understand how a song that has been It's launched in 1995, it's been viral on TikTok.

Exactly. There's one in a moment that is out of I see what, in 2002 that,

which he used all the time, and it's a tune that I've never heard but that

now, it's at an time, it's sort of it's a wonder, and we

know, and it's so it's great, it's great, the song the song the

music the group movement, the group American of the American of 90,

it's a B-Side, who has refed surface on TikTok, it's a song that the guy had never played in spectacle, and Stephen Markmus, the chanteer of pavement, a day,

he had been in a cafe, he said, hey, it's said, hey, it's, it sounded really like the pavement, you know, but it's a proper song,

that had redevened a success, but it had been a success that had never been one, and there's their song we've been to listen on Spotify and company. But it's so special

when I, the first time when I was, like, I'm like, all the songs to Abba, sort of,

it was just that all the time, and all the tunes of Abba, we're like, you know, they're a catalogue that's really really a lot, but there's like all the songs of Abba

they were there. And it's cool, it's like these children of 10 years, you know, it's the fun. It's probably there's presentment there's many

years old songs of Maggie who refone on surface on Yeah, yeah, and there was Miami also of Arianne Moffat

that was, it was really, that was good, so. Well, if it could have this effect beneficent on the music

Quebecoz. Is that, is that is you inquiette because when when when we see appear,

when we consult each of new rapport of statistics on the music of the music Quebecoise by the

platforms, it's always navrant? It's always been like that, I think, you know, there's never had,

you know, we're not a market extremely pretty, comparatively to like all the rest

of the world, but we're very, very, very, very far. And the people who

consume the music to Quebec, there are. and when I when I see a new adren Kassidy an ascension

foal That's part of your Yeah, my curie, my label But, you know, that's just You know, the career

has, like, pre an ascension incredible. It's an immense phenomenon, yeah. And that all the one is there on the grand

scene, and that all the and he brandy a drape of Quebec. You know, I see that, I mean, I mean,

I'm going to be correct. It's, it will be when I see, you know, when I see when I see, you know, percy in other markets, you know, it's like, it's kind of

reassuring. I mean, there's still a place for that, and the people, they consume kind of the music in Quebec, yeah. In the same conversation with Alexandra Strelisky, you were talking to your rapport to the money,

and you said that had you had a malice face of certain of your pairs, of the industry, of the music, you'd say at this moment I don't think

that the people me really really to it's not not about to the it's not

it's not about my situation with Bravo in the sense when I'm in the

at the time at the time I'm in the I've been Bravo and it's been it's like complex to

navigated because I think there there's people who said, okay, but she's she's

she's and then they're recuperate that, is that is that will make and I'm

so I'm continue to and now we have a new reputation and all it's

It's been, it's it's been a few years, and it's normal, it's like it's like

recommenced an enterprise, regained the confidence of people, I think the people just, they were

if it was if it was going to be very much, it was pretty good, it's really

very, it's a question, the most idea that you'd do you do the project

of president and the directress artistic of an label also so gross than

that's he that's Bravo. that there's there are kind of there are some barriers systemic in

place for certain genre of artists. And so I think that really damage. What's what do you

say? Well, I see, I know with certain artists, you know, there's not access to

certain, we'll say, media or things like that because it's too in development. You know, there's some

that I think that I think that's just damage, I'd like that there's more the place for the artists

in development and the relive. It's really because it's very It's very hard to have percy your artist

if you don't the status on TikTok if you're not if you're not like we like it's like I'm doing it

I don't know how it I'm going to I'm saying an artist and then you did you do it's like the promos

classic and you're going to have two interviews but it's also that there's also you could have an interview

with bang bang with Vois and there there had plenty of things and there all all the whole you're at

all you're at the disc now it's it's not that it's not it's It's really more that. And then it's,

I recognize, and it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's sure that I'm, we're going to

be like, it's more, plus the fun, but, at the, it's so, the development of career,

and that, we'd have, we're, it's not, it's not, it's not so, the reality. It's not

that, in the middle of the question, too naisoeses, but, why is what's

you've done you've made that, to retcheting your etiquette? I know you've explained

a few times, but with the distance of a about about five years. I think

I'd could be to get to this situation very easily. I'd have to try by.

I think I'm not made, because I had, I saw, well, the enterprise

it had 20 years, it's, it had 20 years, it had 20 times, there had some contracts

in place, there were there were the artists that were like, liable to these contracts

that could not to start to start that and I'm doing it I've said

I'm I don't to know to do that I'm going to I'm stressed

it really it's really I'm in the position perfect and you would be not put

not you'd be to do you know I'm I'm going to go to I'm I'm

going to but I'm made confidence I've reached to have

the bid and today I'm content of having to have made. It's sure that's a

course of stress in plus. You've been entrepreneur. For the people who are entrepreneurs at the

house, I'm not even though. There's not a lot of a business in the entrepreneur.

No, not really. And in plus, I have to be a pirate. Yeah.

No, but it's that's the sense of my question, it's to say that's

that's a question, it's a role of employee, but you're a career to

support, And some songs to write, some of the scriptal and I'm intricately related to the world, and to my

success that's like, for the moment, I have to continue to offer some time for a little bit for that

can actually, it can help the project of the company in a certain fashion. Ideally, it's probably

that's, if there's there's plenty of people who are, I'm, I'm, I'm going to eventually I

put my retrette. You want to your retrait? By the car to pirat, I'd like that, You know, like, I'm not going to do for to do with a 505

years. I can't not. I don't know. I'm a t-shirt of the Rolling Stones presentment, and they're still on the show.

They're not they're not doing the tourne all the time. No, effectively. They want to do that specific. And I'm going to let me go to

call in a week and I'd be content. In the sphere. In the Svegas. Carre of Pirates in the space, it's a but it's like, at a,

planetarium. Because the tourne is... Well, it's very preenor it's very prenant, and I do that for a long time. And I adore

that, I adore that really, but I'm very old, not so old, but a little little bit

old. I've been the cardio that I have. So, ideally, I'd like to pass

the torch to get the time, I'm going to get the company, but I would have

not to make a long time. But what you say, is that the health

financial of bravo music that repose in great part on the

success of the project of Pirate? In this moment, when I've got been to buyout,

yes, because there's a lot of people who are people who are going to be able to continue, and eventually I think that will be diversified

and it's going to be very much. So, each disc that Lou Adrienne Cassidy, Vend, soulage,

Cours of Pirate who could probably take their retreat. I want just I just that the, you

see, that the artists are more big and that that it works super well, So I'm after that

I can just like a concert here, it's my dream. I'm sure I'm not to wait.

I'm not you're all the young? No, I see but I think there's people who have some that you

to bring it like a divitam internam and it's correct there's no problem but the music I think it's

something I love to do the music I adore touch the people I don't know at how point to make

a time you can't you can't it's a benefit for no person I don't. And when

you're doing these spectacles you feel how you're how much you're before, I'm

really that the spectacle the spectacle. The spectacle is super it's incredible that you're in commune

with the world, it's genial. It's just just before I'm just before, I'm

sometimes I'm mad sometimes sometimes I'm that's not the You know, it's like, not the fun. But after that, you know, you do your spectacle, you're super content. And, I mean, I adore that.

And I adore, you know, I love after, also. You know, there are some people who come to really long. Like, you know, I did a show in Mexico, and there was a world, like, you know, like, you're doing, like, you know, like, you've been just here to me to see, it's fool. It's cool. Yeah.

It's beautiful. It's beautiful. It's so. It's so. It's so that I want to continue to do it, but, you know, it's so. I'll plan if it, you know, the other way, they're going to turn.

But is you've got to do you do have to do the music point bar or it's the spectacle

that you would be to make the side? It's not I'm just to repense I'm thinking differently because

you know, I'm not the choice to do it's very condensed it's very like everywhere but no

no, no I'd like it'd like they'd think they're differently but I love to

do it's just like is there's just like is a way it's like it's it was Ariana Grande had five shows at London

something like, and I'm like, that's like, it's brilliant. It's brilliant. It's, it's a damage for the people who are but it's kind of brilliant because it's... Yeah, no,

but there's more more of the group preferring that's called a whole steady every year. Oh, yeah. They're three residents, Chicago, New York,

London, they're doing four, the people, they're doing. Well, yeah, it's made a voyage, you know. So, it's, it's the three cities, oh, I, I see

Montreal, Paris. Montreal, Paris, Quebec, Quebec, it's the fun. It's good, Quebec. Maybe Toronto, because Toronto, it's kind of the fun at each time. Yeah. Yeah, me seems that we measure too too, here, in Quebec, the success that you have

in Canada, English, and in the United, also? Well, at Stozy, I'm going to, because it's finished. I don't know. I'd returner not. But, no, in Canada, English, it's very good. You know, I've got all the time. Even, I'm surprised. The first time, I got my syrah.

I, you know, it's a remit, you know, it's a real salve in Toronto. It's immense. So, you know, I've really the chance. I've made some, you know, some of the show at Edmonton

that I'm not at least to get to a few people and a couple there's a time, you, you know,

you're not to be able to but I'm saying that the music in French, it's people like, how the

success has transformed your relationship with the music? Um, I don't know, I think it's,

I think, I'm running at a state to my career where it's very stable. You know, I'm content,

I'm in the cell that I want, I don't if it's not if it's going to

it's like it's like stable. I can go to be in a place, and the people come to be

and they're people who are super expect to you. It's like a success like I'm content.

And it's not always the case in France? I've had been a little more intense when

I was more young and that it was like I had won't a lot of I'm doing Now, it's

rendered, you know, I'm a little like an actor of Broadway at New York, like, the people come, they're full-hamed, and then they're full-hamed, and

they're going, and they're going to a little photo, and it's all. It's like, really respectue. I like that. So,

the success is I'll see like that. But in your relation to your instrument, and at the writing of the song,

it's not affected this relation? No, not, not to do all. And I think that,

I think that, I think that's my last album, where there a problem of, no, but there's a

no, but there's a problem, you know, like, and then it's going to be a more great liberty to do you know,

to do you're doing a lot exactly, exactly exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah. I had to finish your phrase, because

there's going to you say, not only it's finished the tourn, but it's my last year, no, no,

I'm like, I'm like, I'm just an album of songs folk that I rest in a coin that I'm

that I know, I know, I know, I'm probably it's sort, an album of himo, tour of Vimeau,

it's a few years. That would be the good moment for the out of that's worth. And by the song folk, of the song

country, perhaps in the case I'm in a interview, you evoke a song that's called Nageville. Yes,

that's written for Isabel Bully. For Isabel Boolet, it's true because in the interview you did say, it was an

song that was made by a grand dame of the song Yeah, yeah, full be the song, I like really, I'm really, I'm

really, I'm really, I'm made in a spectacle. No, no, it's really, I love to write for the other so if you ever

it could be really happy. In this same interview, you'd say that you'd say that you'd ever be to transform

in Jean-Jacke Goldman. Yes, my hero. Michel Berger Jean-Gald Gouldman. Well,

yeah. But you've written some for other artists. Yeah, but it's not quite

often, but I'd like that, but I'm recently, I've done the project at Aton-Roy, and it's really

fun. I really, I adore me plonged in the universe of someone of another and then to be transformed

a little the time of a song. I think that it's like if you're like if you bring in

a other form that's really fun. In July last, I don't if there's people who

had been the five years of the movement of denunciations that had been to to the

rachat to your etiquette. Is you think that we've done that we've

done It depends for who, I think, there's people who, in fact, all the one is liberal to do what he wants. Yes. I think there are some people who have become the most grand consequences who were the victims, who were the people who had the people who had. When I see the hate that Safiannolian has, all the day, again at this day, it's a fool.

Yeah, I think so fool. And we're, we're, we're going to, we're going to, we're going to, But if it's more per, it's at the price of an effacement that she's the same she's retired a bit because it would have been too

Yeah, that I can't not talk about her, but it's just for it's just for having seen, in fact, when, you know, having seen the story she posted,

I think it's fool to know that's still something that has a year, something that's there's a little but I think the metis

of a person in the public is a privilege and it's a privilege which is I think that I think that just

I think that the people have the memory and the people who are people who are very and who have some kind of

have been to have been to this. But the people don't believe easily. Yes, effectively in the

life it's sometimes a beautiful that we can have to other occasions it's less there's

there's many times he's there's documentary of May France Basso this autumn on telekebec

on the return of those we're called the annulled, how is you view with that,

you're probably even to crossed on certain plato? Because there are people who are remit we, we

don't know also sometimes what is the processus and the decision that why

that's the right, I know, I'm not, I'm in certain way, because it's

a little the same because it's when you when you've just knew that that you, it's sure

that you We want to revive that. We're we're we're we're we're

we're I'm trying I'm trying their motivation after after after I'm not I'm not

I'm not I'm not to say I'm but I'm but I'm protect in the people who are people

who are who are in the sense that I'm I'm I'm I'm

and the people that I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm it's a it's a

political very clear It's quite It's clear. It's clear. I'm and I'm not to say I'm

and I'm not. Yes, exactly. But is it these discussions that you have you have at the

show you're at the we're in a policy in the company that's very clear, not only

for the employees and for the people who are signed to be in place when I

had been when I've made the acquisition of the ancient company and we honor that, we honor

to see that's a no, I think that it's – we're going to be in place. Then after that, when – I mean, it's not going to say, but I would say, when it's going to say, it's going to be, and it's going to be, you know, we're going to do, and we're doing, you know, we're going to do, you know, all right? Yeah, you know, you live the bra in the air.

Yeah, I'll leave the bra in the air because it's – I think that – I think that, I think that, I'm just, you know, I'm just – I'm like, you're in the eye of the public, it's – a privilege. You have to be an example. Irreprochable? Not irreprochable, but, you know, you're human. But, you know, I think you've, you know, when you're doing, when you're doing,

when you're, like, I'm saying, like, I don't don't know why you would be imposed on the scene public. But it's also that they suppose, but we're, we're open, the door.

Well, I don't know that they're open, the door, that's, it's a, it's a lot. It's, it's a lot, but it's triggering, also. It's like... For the people who have

who've seen that, I think it's, I think it's, I'm trying to really, really. And we're

not at these people who open their TV, who suddenly see a visage, who they

get in the moment, the worst of their existence? Absolutely not. Absolutely not. I've got much of the

empathy for these people that who have used these things intense, who have to be retap

that in plain of face at every time. Let's something of something of what

I can say It's the first My Chances on the new album? It's the song which is the song whose title is the

part of pirate. Is that you devine? Is it like that? Yes, let me the first tune that I've written for this album

that, in plus. That's a great, very, dancein. And a beautiful contrast between the music and the text

that is more he's more so, let's me play that the voile that the voile that comes reveled my

arms darry and that the words that guide my songs of my songs of my

carcour but let's me cry for me to make abandoning. They've they're

enough to me far to make abandoning? Mm-hmm. It's that he'll. It's

sometimes the public, sometimes the people, the time, the time, in fact, it's a

song that part of, like, it's not bad, it's got to continue to perform

I, I'm, I'm, I'm, it's not comparable, but Taylor Swift

has made a song called, I can do it with a broken heart,

who says she said, she's It's a little a song that's like even if I'm in trying to

me decompose it's quite that I'm so it's a so, so it's a song that I'm really,

I like this song and it says let's me cry. Let's me playerer. You've

often used these moments like that you were on scene and you you'd decompose

at the entire? It would we could be able to see your face?

Yeah I'm there's specific specific, even at my health,

even at the I don't know to perform so you know just on the there's a lot of there's a lot of there's a lot of

some kind of, you know, it's like I'm that's like I'm having to do you, you have not the choice because if you can't

do you can't be the show there's not there's not so. You're sure that car of pirates

without Beatrice Martin is. Yeah, it's a model of affair that is a particular

I've had been where is I've got I've got to I've got to I'm trying long time even if

I'd maybe I'm it's not it's, it's it's been rare that I'm not to really not have

to really so it's sure that's like even if my life personal also was in trying to

I'm doing I was my show sometimes I never I never too annuled

and the once I'm because really I was in the I was in the I'm I'm going to chant.

But it's a good example of what we're in as a performer, I imagine, I'm imposes that. I'm imposes that. I was trying to continue and to do that like that.

Because the genre had been at triccited if you'd have annulled a spectacle, but person would until the end of time? No, I don't. And today, now, the people,

now, the people, now, yeah. Yeah, yeah, so, no, I think No, I think that I'm not long time, I'm not really prioritized in a lot of, in many in a lot of, in my

health mental, not for my health, my health, my whole. Are you capable of, more of, of, beaithance, at your regard, now? It's a word, like, you

can permit to the employee. Yes, yes, yes, but I'm still, very, very, very, very, very, very very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, and if, if I'm all, like, I want to long time. So I know

that's not and it's also something that has made that I've developed I'm because,

because because you can't get to be a malade I, I've got not in some places,

I'm not in my mask. I'm to have the hands 75 times per day,

and I remember, when I went, and I'm doing, and that I did the

spectacles. I was really stressed not only because I was in the same, but because there were the spectacle, it's a

context of pandemic, that it was made a lot of I mean, I didn't know, I'd be, I'd be able to

because I had afraid that the water, you know, it's really but in the time it's

completely perched, you and there had felt I'd have I'd have to get to the therapy and

all to that for, like, me sort to do that, but it's at this point that that my career,

my life turned, of chantees has been to be my person in a certain fashion.

It's not sometimes. It's a interview if he's malade. Yes, I've

made. I've done. Just before. More later in this song that, let's me

play. There's two phrases luminous. But I remember that the life is brief

and that in poem we frole the eternity. In poem, eternity. It's beautiful, that.

Well, it's because it's what we do in the musician, finally, it's something that's something

that's a thing that's we're going to end of the eternity, we rest in the universe collective for

the eternity. So it's that's that me would, in the fond, to continue, to continue to

do it, to do you continue to do the power of the power of to us to be able?

Yes, absolutely. I think that the art is a part integral of our culture and our existence,

and then especially in Quebec, it's very important, very, very important. So, yes, I think that's, the art

it's changed, the art, it's a part, you know, we're talking to Peter, if Pierre, if Pierre,

had not existed, there would be a car of pirates, in the sense that's when I've heard for the

first time, I'm saying, okay, I can, I can do, okay, I can do this kind of

poetry that, I can talk this story, that in French, so, so, And then I'm emue to meet with

to be able to see that and it's more there's not there's not there's not as some of the artists who

have been in 2008 and they're their 7th album who are not there's just still still there I'm sure

I'm sure because yeah obviously there there's a work but there's a concourse also so I'm very, very

I'm very very privileged and very chancerous to continue to continue to do that I'm there in July 2008

at Club Soda when you made the first party of Benjamin Biolet, this mythic spectacle. Is it a... I don't know. I don't know. I don't remember but I don't. But I see that the world wasn't quite. The people were not content, so long.

I don't know. I'm going to pass a good moment. Yeah. And, and then, the bus of Franco, is to have these artists of the relive before an artistist plus established. And I see not, he was... The people, it was like, what's like, it's like, I'm just to be there. You know, I'm not invited to be here,

you know, we've invited. You know, we've invited. Benjamin Biolet, he? He had a lot He's not He's not to have to have to have a

lot of the time to Oh, yeah, I don't know I remember I don't know I'm afraid

I'm not, I'm he's just he's got, oh, a good a good show,

he's like, okay, a good a good but the people, I'm sure, I'm

remember that, I'm a one of my other articles to bang bang pose the question, why the

people are at this point at a card of pirat? I know, I think I change a bit a little

the discourse of what's what's going, what's what's going to work, what we could accept in the music musical?

At the time, it was really a group of a group of a monsieur, very indie, very, I see not,

the Montreal sound. It was really that's really that that's actually that's been and you had a part. Yeah,

I didn't have a rapport. I was not a voice, I had a little voice, like really not special.

But, but I, I'd arrive of a world that was, you know, Kourosi, I'd listen to, go to Dianne, I'd like, really,

who's really that's not shocking. I was in the world in French, it was a little particular, it was new. And there were, there was a bit of a good,

old, misogynia at the time. Yeah, well, that, we don't never, a little sexism of base. Yeah,

I'd say, we'd say, we'd say, we'd say, we'd say, we'd We talked of a resack Tantau we're observing

and we observe and we're sorry and we're sorry and we're very very sad Beatrice is that you can't you know how about

your ear? It's just my earring is like the debut of an affair that is in trying to be in search of all that

I don't know I don't know what I'm still I don't know what I'm sorry but I know what I know what I should that I should be the

less stressed possible If it's not bad. So, what you take to not be too stressed

while you launch a new album and I'm that's a very bad. It's not very bad. I'm not.

It's, it's, it's, it's, I'm going to be the most seasoned possible. I'm trying to not

drink of alcohol. It's difficult to not to be able to because it does the good, momentanement

but we know it's no more when I'm when I'm when I don't, I see,

I'm not, you know, I'm the, you're the, And I'm the person plate who's not who rest really very zen.

So it's super. I like, I'm sure, I'm not if it's a lot of, it's not like my opinion to me but I'm very much,

your new album. Oh, thank you. And I'm supermied, even if I had not the right to let's be able to to do it,

she's a great, grand, grand, grand fan. And she has she made that. She has been so. She's so the important.

I mean, I said that, I'm, like, the fans who are quite recupered some people who might be able to

maybe maybe to be able to be on the way. It would be fun. And maybe it's what that's what

that's the thing that's that's the for a lot of for any reason specific, just because the time pass, and then

we'll see more, and since this artist that, lance again we can renew with him, 100%.

100%. I, I'll see with plenty of things. The National I had had to

listen to that during a bit bit I'm and then sometimes, it's it's it's like

it's like it's like it's like The National will be still there for us. Yes. But so your

brain, is that you've lost a part of your audition. Yeah, I'm like made a pair of

auditions subit, you tend? I've I've lost a percentage of my my ear

go to my head metal, without protection. No. It's really an brain

internal, so it's nothing to have nothing to have to be that I'm in the

show of hardcore, but no, no, I'm because your man is fan of hard

very, very, very, very, very, very, very fam. And it's, my God. No, no, no, it's, it's really something that's happened subitement, and I'm not an explanation

again. That also, it ought to be anxiogenic. Yeah, but I'm there on a case. I'm in a quaint. I'm just in a question. Thank you. Beattrice, this ballad also, is it entitled, Just Between You and Me, is there a last thing that I'd like to say, that would rest rate just between you and me. My God. My God.

I think if we can canalize in the hour that's going to be less anxious for the

suit. So, so that's that's all right, to go to find to do do whatever.

It's you can't just just forget a little what's going to

let me. That's I applauded. Thank you. Thank you.