Juste entre toi et moi - Roy Dupuis

Episode Date: September 8, 2025

Dans un rare long entretien, l’acteur Roy Dupuis revient sur l’origine de son engagement envers les rivières et sur l’ivresse de ses premières fois au théâtre. Il se confie aussi au sujet des bénéfices d’une psychanalyse de sept ans, qui lui a permis de voir clair dans ce que lui avait légué son père.

Hello, here, Dominique Tardiff, Rebiennue. At just, between you and me. Well, you know, the creators that I receive to the micro of this balado, they've been often me present to a new project, a new film, a new series, a new disc. But my invitee of today, he had

nothing to promote. He accepted my invitation just because it was he tentate, resumably. My invitee of today, it's Royd of Puy, Roy, who's generally discreet, say that like that, who don't know the interviews, but he has been very generous with me

in talking, well, of his engagement environmental, but in talking also of his jeaness,

of his baggage familial, of his psychanalise. Roye is very rare in an

interview, he's also rare on the screen. The last time we've

seen in the series at-keur-battan that had been on on Dici-T-Ley. It's

a series that was a center in a center of prevention for men

violent. You'll hear Roye us what he does he do you know how to he's not

on a platform of tournage. I'm also that Roy and port parole of the grand

descent of the Rivier of Newark it's an event organized by the Fondation Rivier

at the Occasion of the Worldial of the Riviers it's derue the 20 September

next. There may just to you can read the article that I've taken to

this in The Press Plus on The Press.C.A. Or, thanks at the application mobile of the Press. And, here, without more tardy,

my entretion with the natural Rohe of Pui. Just between you and me it will it will

be between you and me for a For a For a while It's It's between

you and me Thank you. Thank you for the Verre You don't like the verres in carton?

Well, it's not in plastic and and the bottle is in plastic

that's it's the horror. But, I'm, I'm in a festival in the

weekend and there's there's a point of we're in our booktes, we're on the set

of the set of the festival so. So your mother ensued the piano? Yeah, my

my mother has always ensued the piano. I think she's married what, she was married,

she was 19, 20 years, and she had to then she'll be the piano at the house,

I think. So, so, she's, the presence of the piano have always

had always important, the students who went and out and they'd and I'm

using my mother I'm used like I'm when she's young. When she wanted,

when she had had a little, and she had found interesting, she'd and I

'd be able to my room in a cave, and she said, I'm going to see,

she'd see, that, she'd be there, she'd always she'd

often eating, she'd she'd I've never demanded. Maybe there had a bit more of curiosity of my part.

I've always been a bit curious, you know, from my my interest for the science at before, before to bifurkey at the School National

of The Theater. So, where it's in your life, the science, before that the theater and the game

in your activity? Well, it's what I'm interested at the time when I had to do the science pure, the physics,

the chemistry, chemistry, with the chemistry, also, but a little more, you know, it's a little more, but the

why of the question I'm always always always with the French also, you know, the regs, there's never of why, it's

like that, you're not, you know, there's a maybe, maybe he knew it, he knew it's not, you know, it was an

origin of the , perhaps it had been interesting that, who'd be, they're playing, in the case, for me,

to me, there'd have found in the etimology to, yeah, perhaps, a little more,

but it's so, so, So the why of things, it's the physics and the chemis, but there I had, I had these responses. And it's rest, even even again today, I'm still in the grand lines. I mean, I can't understand the

formula. I can't do. The mathmatics that comes with the mechanic-quanty, but I'm always interested by where it's the conscience human, uh, by a part to the reality. It's what the last thing you've

the that's that's fascinated? Derriarment, in the five last year's

there's a scientific who's a neurobiologist who has reached to me convince that the

liberal arbitrate not. It's not nothing. No, it's not nothing.

And how is he had to convince of that? By his travel,

by I've met the first first on on Internet

at Ted Talk. He's called how? Robert Sapalski. Professor at University Stanford in California. He passed 20 years.

The debut of his career, he had passed in Africa to study the same group of Baboin. And then, I'm going to get a little bit more complex, and he's become a neurobiologist.

And there, he ensegues, the neurobiology. So, you're on him, because he's on his head talk? Yeah, his head talk, and it was fascinated, and then

I'm just, I'm talking on these interviews, these conferences, and then after, on his behavior, and who's and who's made also

to be determined. So, it's really a scientific that's very difficult to contradict, in the font, because there's

many years, it's not a philosopher, it's not a psychologist, it's a science pure, it's the

science brute, it's, how it's the brain, what's what we're, on the brainetics,

on, and today, with the utes we're, the imagery cerebral, with all the

these issues, and comportmental that we have, it would have you, it's to me convict that's there's not, there's not there's not a liberal arbitre? It's what? At our subject, to the subject of the human?

It's not that's not that in general, at the base, it means that, in the front, person is responsible of what he does. And he's what he says also, the system carcerey, the system

penitance, the system of justice is to rematch in question. Because we're puny these people who have posed of the gestures for

which they are ultimately not responsible? Yeah. But... It's not nothing like affirmation?

No, it's not nothing, because that's my approach environmental to responsivize the individual

that all the time has all the time part of my approach. But there it's just more complicated

in the fact. The people agis because they are formed because they have subied

these traumatism because they have the genetic that they have. So, we can

explain in the fact, all the comportment, in the end of the line. But it doesn't say that we're condoned to

pose these gestures reprehensible if we're not done to live in a certain manner. There's kind of the plasticity

of the brain, we can learn, we can evolve, we can change. But let's that in a

moment present, it's today, today, presentment, me and you know, along what it says,

you can't do not do you can't do not other than me pose the question that you post there.

And I can't do not other than to respond what I don't know what I'm there.

I'm not I'm not the port of the door to I'm in the studio and do you're

but I'm not because you're not because you're not responsible that you go to you

want to be to get to I'm not capable to assassinate to someone to sue someone

it's not change not your desire it's it's it's It's just in

sort that what it's what it's that's one of the effect, that it has on

on me, is that I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm trying to to understand the people more rapidly.

It's an invitation to be an empathy. Yes. You're not the choice that even even if,

I've really the difficulty to live with someone like Trump and to be in

Chris that, that and so much there's there's quite he's not he's quite

he's not responsible of what he does he he's not there's the reason why he's what he is

to have to have an empathy for Trump? Difficitement but logically with the reason

I understand as I'm like I don't know the choice to say the words he says

and to do the he's not he has not no more there's not no more, there's not

there's not So you rest more pretty with a with a callaire, with a rage, with an envy of vengeance. And so,

the system penal, it's the more and more, I think, we say, system penal, but to puner

someone because he has committed an horror, it's a thing, it's rather it's,

and if it's dangerous for the society, a bit, like a char, that's, you have put a break,

but you'll it's, you'll bring, you'll bring, you'll have to then you're trying to repair, but it's it's a big that's not reparable.

Well, it's a big, it's a gross boucher to get it. You've not not even? No, I've got to gyr but it's five five years.

It's been five that it's been a good year complete, because it's been a shock for me also at the start, but so I've seen a course, you can see,

his course that's done in 2017 on YouTube on complete, I've seen 11 hours of his course. And at a moment, it's

very difficult to the contradue. So I'm convinced. The declarations that have made to all people on the subject

of the violence to guard. I've been just that. But it's animated by the lecture. It's sure it

has a very influenced the person of Christoph by the violence masculine, the violence

in general. To always try to try to to comprehend, to getirir. It's much more

complex that, Well, he's a man, and he's a manned, and he's a manned in. Because at this moment, there, there are these groups of women victim who have responded to, that it's not right that the violence is a disease. Yeah, it's a choice. But, I would have could respond by after,

yeah, but when you're not the choice to do you do, is it really a choice? But, in all the other ways, if you're being able to do you say, to everyone, all the moment, you're not trying to defend the violence made to women or other men, obviously. I'm not. I'm not pro-violence, on the contrary. I'm just like, I'm just

convinced by the science, by a scientific kind of, who is quite that's quite that's quite that's

that's more than the world, like, I say. I can't you can't you know, I,

it's really that you know, it's, you know, I'd say, I'd be, you could be a,

one of the studies of the comportmental that he recount when he has an interview to do and that's not really the time to elaborate and what's

he's not. But it's maybe not not enough for, I was I'm saying, I'm someone who,

I'm at the base, who'd don't have enough of place and an importance to the science.

So, for me convince, it's me, it does, and it's, and like,

it's been, it's a pre a year before, that it's, because me, no, more I didn't want to

but now that I've understood that it's a aid to liberate an espouse of an espouse or an envy of violence like I said

an envy rather of vengeance rather an envy to understand and to get and to try to see what

what we're the majority of the people who commit these horrors it's clear that they've not had been

there's not had the grand majority Yes, it's Yeah, it's some of the maladies

biologic, there's deficiencies that are, which are that they're going to in the

brain, there are there's there's like, like, like, people,

they're not empathy, it's, it exists. Yeah. And so, we don't, we don't

a importance to the empathy, but the empathy is an emotion. You know, it's like, it's like, it's like

the odora, it's like, what is more noble in what What is what needs, finally, a little more of a time, is the compassion.

What's what the difference between the two? The empathy, is just to restantir, if we, to be, to restantir the suffering of the other. Someone who's

to be in front of me. And that, all the animal social, that, the human is a bit more the other, I know, but the

compassion, is to agire on the suffering of the other. To bring the empathy, to transform in action?

Yes. And you can even arrive to have to have the compassion without empathy. to see to understand

reasonably that someone suffer. And then it's probably more also, to act

without the emotion that the suffrage generate. But just by the reason,

by the voluntity to get or to help. We can think that the great

medicine on arrive at that, for example. The Buddhism, the Buddhism,

it's car that, it's really to push the compassion the

the plus possible. Is it one of your principles tools, the empathy and the

compassion in your work? I'm someone who is due in a certain empathy

or I don't see, I never never measured by the other. But, yeah,

it's sure that it helps to understand the emotions, the emotions human,

even those that they're even those that pertiened so, to go, all the

what we can live, in the fact, is to add of the colors to our palette

a certain fashion. So, plus you've seen, you've felt, you've resented

of emotion, more you can create these characters who are rich, who are credible, just. The justest

is certainly what I'm in the game, more than the performance. And how we measure that

the justest of an actor? But, And sometimes you will see some of the actors who's emmeau, they're even, while the personage normally it would be

not so emotive than that. That's a difference, if we want, to not to let's emported by your person, but to live for what he is. The formation that I've

had a lot of to be a lot of to respect the authors, to respect the authors, to want to history, and not to want to

become a redet or to be a important. Yes, you can be it in the doing, but...

I'm confirm that you have been Yeah. I think that's the school national me has really

has really the rigor, and the fact that we work in the it's really a work of

the team, what we're doing. That's, I think, I'm just someone who has made

some people, I'm to learn to play when I met my cask of hockey, I had a time he had the impression that I'd be the same at the time where I'd make my casse. That's your costume? Yeah, I could be able to make

to do things that we can't not be in the life, in the phone. We've been a bit more intense for not to say violent. The hockey, yeah, it's still a sport as a certain aggressivity that's expressed. Yeah, yeah.

So I just all of the impression that it's a bit like I've to start to learn to enjoy. And it's a job of, again, You've played hockey to play hockey to get to a

level? Midgette two, or three? Okay, it's that's good.

Yeah, I'm yeah, I'm, I'm might be to be able to be a

hockey if we had not saved by my father, the capiske and he Ramos.

It's a little my father that, that was the authority, like I

didn't not that to play hockey, I'd that, but I'd So, in

entering in the city, at 14, 15 years, at 14, 15 years, the shoes me were pushing to fume the pot in the park,

so the hockey has put a bit more. The pot had detourned to do hockey. Yeah. It was who your player

preferred? At the time? Yeah. Well, there, there was Gratki, the most.

It's a half a day, I'd say, the two. There were, at this time, we had,

these two grand players, and you To play in which position? I'm going to go to center. At the center. It's very rapid.

I'm really, I'm patina in three years. I had perhaps the potential to do the league national at the time. I don't remember it's in which there a person who says

that the Abitibi can produce only the artists and the players of hockey and you, you've been one of these

two things that but you're probably to be to be the other. What's the you're not made in Abitibi? You're not

in Ontario? I'm not I think I've been I've been three months in Ontario.

Okay, then after you have been to be transferred to Amos. I'm not New Leskard just the other

border, the lake the lake Temiskameen. What's he rest of Abitibian in you?

I think the concessance of the rivers, of the lakes, the lake,

the forest, so we don't always more of something to know, so,

my cherminement to the protection of the river. It's something that is precious

for me and more more, I think. We're in we're in a great responsible

of a certain number of great river savage, and we're responsible for the rest of

the humanity, and especially the rest of the species vivant.

It's a great responsibility and it's a big responsibility because there are no more

in the grand river, vire, savage. Is that you do you do the first moment where the nature

you've emu to provoke an emotion? I think I'll say, but I'd could pass at the

coat. The word of nature, for me, it includes the human. So, when we do

nature, the cities, are part of the nature. If you want to me about

the forest, of the lake, when, and so, then, then your question,

is what? My question effectively exclude the Yeah, it's that, it's what we exclude the

human. No, but I'm the decision. It's a error, it's really a error. All of the

human is natural. If you could not it would be not it's not the law

of the nature we can't do not natural. So, we're natural. And I think that's

an error to all the time dissocied the nature of the human to my point of view. And,

and in science, in physics, the nature, it's all the cosmos to grand complete. And then this confusion that, who is the

mine, contributes, in our rapport, sometimes a bit tordued with the forest, the lake, or on the sea of the nature, or not natural, or what we do, what we do, what's not natural. What is chemics, what's, no, the chemis,

if we bring these molecules who are there, and they're in the way to form a something that's not, exactly like an o'o who can bring the branches,

and the plume, and he's done with, who it's just we, we're rended to fashioning of these objects with with these

atoms but all that is natural but thank for you know that's it's something that I consider

important a question I'm supposed there's a there's already a few years and I finished by

me to find by different scientific also so all what the human is natural we're not we're not

otherwise we're not we're not and so we think we're part of the nature

and I consider that it's important I think I think that we're that we're part of

the first first time that nature I'm emu the nature savage, um... I'm not

I remember not, it's sure that the first the first the first that I

see, it's the lake the lake Arthur at Chalay in Amos but it was

it was not emu because it was like it was a natural.

You can't do you have a sign of a game-hip present. You know, I'm saying, it's kind of particular because we're doing, we're doing, we're going to demenage at the chalet, for to go to the two months of vacants at the chalet, and we'd bring the TV, it was really a demenagement.

At the moment, I've been I've got to 10 years, I could part to the house, and then we'd run to the chalet on a bicycle, a pedal. It's, it had to be a pen an hour. So, it's at co-o-te, in the front of the chalet. It's just...

So, it's sure the first the first of the lake, the forest, it's the chalet, and it's not, it's not emu by that, but it's just enriching, I think, it's something that's something that's important, it's something that, that was, that,

that was the fun, it, it's the fun, it was the fun, it, passed the summer, on the lake, to fish, to, you know, in this time, we wanted, we wanted to eat, we wanted to bring the cano, we'd, and we'd, we'd, we'd, We'd have to have some of the doris, we'd have to be able to be it.

Yeah, it's, it's resty, my, my poison preferring. Your own indignation or your prism, because it's a thing to cotoyer, to cotoyer, to co-toyer, the nature. I just have to find a sign of guillemet, at new. Yeah, it's difficult to start. We'll have to find out of the other moor, because, if it's a lot of it, it's a complexify the discussion in general. But it's a thing to be a cotoyer when we're young, but you've co-fonded

the Foundation Rivier in in 2002. Tate's of conscience of the fragility or the urgency when you're

when you're when it's a crime? Well, not at this moment that, when we're at this moment

that, let's say that I participated in a movement that we had stopped 36 projects of

barrage private. It's the privatization at the part, with which we were

not of the resource hydraulic. Even Hydro-Keebeck had been with these 36 projects of barrage private

and so when the party Quebeco is embarked, we had reached to stop these 36 projects, but

we had just had just had just been made their tablets and a change of government had been

relanced all of these projects. And so Alain Saladius, it's Michel Gautier,

especially, who had worked in this milieu that for a certain time, especially

Alin Saladius who had worked in assanism of the other. So it was more the co-the-cote scientific, if we're so we're going to. And so it's

he was convinced that, well, we've reached that, but there were still still a job to do. And that would be able to be a foundation that's like, like, like, like, for, to say what he has to because

because person of other, it did for the instant. And so, it's so it's also for the well-a-being of the society Quebecois,

so for the good life, for the partage of the resources, for the good, than the preservation of the

river that I ambarqued at the part. And then it's really my, my approach has

bifurkey to really the protection of the rivers savages, because there I,

I, I, like, I've, I'm, the grand project of barage hydroelectric were often

of the too, that there had the efficacy energy to do, that we'd gaspied enormously, just because we'd have not

the electricity here in Quebec, the norm, the code of the building had desuets by the other societies

and other other countries, and so it had to do work at this level, to recuperate in the

end of the country, before to go to get to impieted on the territories, who is

again savage, virge, and so, and my views precious. We're

on presentment, along you, by the part of that, what's the process, we're

going to get to do that collectively? I think there's there's, because at the part,

it's clear that the hydroelectricity was proper. But it's not without impact. It's what

we're doing. It's what we're used to transmit to be to be able. So, there's

a good work to the fact at this level that. I think the conscience have evolved

at this level but there presentment the situation with our our

with our it's like it's like it's like the situation economic world in the kind of

an issue of insecurity economic that presentment the movement and the movement, all the

approach environmental has really really to be a recule present what it what it

is that that we make that we face the cash that We're on a solidify, if we, in our point of view economic,

in our, in our rapport economic with, because we're, supposedly, a great partner, for a certain time, in fact, I hope that's just

for a certain time. So, presentment, the situation economic makes in sort that the movement environmental brings really

to a recule. You know, we're talking, we're talking on, we're talking, we're talking, so it's difficult presentment, to, how

say, to, to, to, to, in the good sense. We're

recule, we're in different levels, sociallyally, environmentally what's what's

presentment, I'm, I'm not a specialist not a specialist, I'm a specialist,

I'm a scientific, but it's that, it's clear that we're to be at a

many of presentment. In 2010, in the documentary, I'm sure the Well, there was a question of the Riviera Roman

on which a barrage has been constructed. Yes. Is that you've like a defeat, like an echick? Not really. I don't know.

I don't know. Again, I think it's my quote scientific, that makes that I try to reason but it's sure that, well,

emotionally, when you're at the river, like I said, for me, it's precious, but by after, well,

I'll return to liberal orbit, I'm not sure that's like that I'm sure that I'm not sure that we're quite sure that's intelligent

for deciding to decide to think it's tragic? It's a It's tragic? No, it's not tragic,

it's like that it's, it it's, it's, it's not to have the envy to say some to,

to have the desire, it, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it, it's, it's,

it can't, But, again, there, perhaps that it's in sort that I'll think it's more difficult to accept it. That's in the

front, we're exactly there where we're supposed to be able to a movement that's a lot more than we're a movement

of the life on the earth in the system solar, and it's not that's irreversible that?

No. The rechoferment climatic, no, the concesses, the information we've found to act.

and that, it continues to, I rest informed and so I continue to react to your information that I receive and these information

that you're to build a new planch on which you can, you have other ideas,

of other of other, of other, for ager to, I don't know if I'm clear. It's very clear,

yeah, very, very clear. Okay. So, it's not something, you know, it's a little bit for, you know,

the liberal-arbit, again, by rapport to some gestures of horror that certain individuals have caused. Well, it's

sure that's the cause I'm going, you want to get to have to do you, but, at cause that, I accept that, I've got the

choice to accept that, because, there's presentment, it's what they're presentment, there's person to be able to

to be able to until that, so, So I finish by passing to other things more rapidly and to try to

understand the comportment. It's the same thing for what is what is the with the Roman just to

understand what is rather than to braille on his sword. Yes, I'm

maybe maybe I've been I'm perhaps and I'm perhaps to know that he arrives

to play. No, no, I am, I'm love these emotions. You're had chosen

the bad Merville if you didn't not live of the emotions. Yeah,

yeah. It's true. In the suite, to search the current after the

Romaine, you descend the Rivier Magpie is what? We're the little the

little? Yeah, it's like her cousin, her, I don't know, but he trace a

link a family between the two. You know descend with these

of an school second here at Montreal who for the part enter in contact

with the territory for for the first Yeah, I think that one of them have even had even

had even maybe I'm not, I think I'll ask the question at a moment that, all you're

not in the film, but yeah, it's these young adolescent of the central

of Montreal. What's that says on our part to our territory? It contributes

not a problem that, to the inconscience that's for that I've had this idea that, it's me that's it's a question

that's a question that's a certain time, you know, to find out of to try to to find out of people to find out to get the point

it's important, but as I said a time, we can't we can't give a real value to what we're not.

And so, this reflection that I've been a certain time and I'm I'm saying, well, it would be

maybe if we could have made, and why not these young, because they're they're going to be there

for descend the river with us for who... They're going to transport this parole, more than. Create a, yeah, create an attachment, create a, well, a comprehension of... And then, also, I mean, a way, just, to render accessible

these places, because it's kind of, it's kind of not easy, to get that, on the MacPuy, it's an expedition, it's, it's, it's, so it's worth. And so, it's been organized, but, well, the schools, organize, sometimes, these voyages in Europe, but

I've never heard of you talk to an school that organises these voyages only in nature savage. And I'm

said, it would be a good way to democratize this kind of, of voyage that,

on the other than in England, or in France, it's kind of a place unique and that

is part of our identity also. When we are arrived, when our ancestors are here,

but it's that there was that there was that there territory. And so, it's pretty a course of history in the same time. And my idea, it's to be jubed it also with

the encounter with a people autoctone, at the start, but it's not functioned at cause their hours. But at the start, it was supposed to be there, perhaps, the eleves also autoctone, who had joined at the expedition. And so, the idea

behind that, it was just a lot, to find out of the nature savage for maybe more to understand at what it's precious. It's been It's been

Yeah, I I think Yeah, I think that I've seen When I'm in And then And the parents

All the moment They said It's really It's really It's really It's a moment important for For everyone

There's There person He said Ah, I'm Sannuier And in And in the During the

five years And it's It's a It's just It's a Yeah, There can't It's

Or, you Or, Or, for So, So, in So, It's not possible,

And I'm not possible, And I I think that I'm supposed to see a re-wear soon, because there are a couple that will be going to make a grand

descent that the Fondation Rivier has organized the 20 September. Yeah, for the World War of the Givier. Yeah, that's

that. So, they have repatriated a couple, I'm still in. So I'll see, I'm going where they're

going to be where they're maybe something that I'd like, the idea, in the idea, in the fact,

it's like I said, it's, I'm that, it's create a tradition, in the movement, and we'll But it's

true that it's absurd that these young Quebecois visit the Portugal or Spain. I say it's

in all respect for the Portuguese. No, it's interesting in Europe. Yes, and we all

all we're all going to be there. There's at the level, on the education,

of the school, the story, I mean, these territories that, as I said at

the part of our responsibility and it's a great responsibility that we're and it's

The party of our identity, is the territory that we abit, even if we're not. And so, yes, I understand what you say. There's something absurd therein that. That the majority of the people know this part of their identity. Is that I'm a bit complicated? Yes.

I know that you're going to be voyager. Yeah. How is you reconcili your love of voyage and your convictions environmental? You say, the avioms? Yeah. I'm for three

months, two months minimum, ideally, like I'm like I'm I'm invited at the festival

of the Perci but it's even in Gaspeze but obviously he me pay the avion but no I'm in charge

a char with a truck I'm a guy of the bit of the I'm saying it's a so it's not

it's not if I'm if I'm I'm the time so I'm so I'm so I'm trying to

when I'm when I'm arrange for that it's envue the pen like I'm going to last month

in Japan with my blonde Is it all the fun? Yeah I've been so much and what's you're doing

you're a great sorrow presently it's like it's like a year it's like he puts

all the limit human it's incredible they're of an precision of an of an

rigour absolute in all in all it's it's impression a city like Tokyo

which is the population of Canada it's hard to find a bodge of cigarettes to earth Yeah,

it's an property immaculate Yeah, but it's like that it they push to to, I mean

the art of the servitude it's impressive at how point the service is

again once pussed at a limit almost gendant for

us. And then, and then, again, it's the same thing. I've never made some of the pasturries like, jane, these shortcake of fries, it's the best I've been

to my life, like, we're not in their food to them. Yeah, it's delicious also. Ah, yeah, but yeah, I, yeah, I, yeah, I'm, yeah, I'm, and then,

I don't know if you've done to that, but I'm not, no, we're We see left too. No, we're at supposed to a moment of the minute, but we're, we're not

done to find out. Now, all full the camp, and they boave in a manner very resemblance. That's, you know, I've never seen,

but I've ever seen it. In some of, in the documentary. I think it's the revered of what you just that you have been

of their part, very, very, placated, immaculate. I'm, I've seen in 2008,

at U.S. In Blastey. My last piece. It's your last piece? It's a piece of Sarah Kane which is a traduited by

Jean-Marcd-Dalpe, a grand dramaturge of Franco-Ottarian, made ensign by Brigittein-Kinkein. It's a piece of a grand despoor in which there is questions of war. It's a piece that is quite violent.

Is that you've already been abided by this desespoor? Is, that you know, this disofore? No. No? No, he's

is quite... It's extreme. I mean, he's at the end of his year, it's what he says he's in trying to poury, he's he's, he says he, he pugh.

It's, well, it is, well, it is a, he's written this piece that because she was not

capable of accept the reaction of the society, of the civilization human face to what was going,

and she and she, in the images at the TV, of the horror that

were going to be able to accept the reaction human, and so have wanted to make the

horror on the same. The most true possible. Yeah, I want to go to

get a baby that's a baby who's at the end of this piece of

it's in 2008 it's in 2008, it has been several years, and this image that

me and I'm very powerful in time. It's a something to play. It's got

something to play. It could not be the fun to to play. If I had used

fun to play that, I'd have not been just. You're not not in garb bad at

while. No, and I said when I was like, when I'm like, it's like,

I was accepted, and I'm said, well, Bridget, she's pretty,

we're in a theater more modern, and a moment, when we had started

to work, and I realized that, no, you can't stylized that, you pass

completely to be the most realist possible. Yeah, we can't not

estatized the violence. No. And it's not what that's the Raken would not no more.

And so, I'm not sure that I'm not sure that I'm not sure that I'm sure that's I think we've made a few

three weeks of the representation and it had been like that. So, so, the view of

this work, to try to to try to to react the people to face to the hour, face to

what can what can be what's present in Gaza, what? We can trace a link, I mean, I

see, it's... Well, it's for that I'm that I'm in this time see.

Well, it's the same thing. Yeah. And it's the power of a piece of theater,

of the art, in general, to make a little something, at the entire of the

people? I'm not sure that I'm don't know to it to do it have to do, I'm sorry,

I've ever said, I've got actor. I've never chosen to be actor. It's a

suite of a chance pure. I know I'm going to see what I'm going to watch a film

of Arne Mushkin Mollier and I think it's that also a little like the

science search to understand to understand the reality so to make evolue

the conscience to to change to arrive with other point of view.

We say we're often what is what is important in science it's not

necessarily the result of the question to arrive with a new question. Well, Moliard, around Mouschkin, it's a little so,

he'd provocate the civilization with his stories, with his characters, with Laird, it's extraordinary. So it's probably that that he made, and he made that make that last year off the course of physics,

and I was remorse in the end of the school national of the theater, by a chance, without even having chosen to get entered. You had what age when you had seen

Molliard D'Ane Mouschkine? It was just, it was the year, it was the year I presented my auditions, So I had to have 17, 18, 18 years. I'm going to return to the school at 19. It's probably the year of the year.

But it's not completely a accident because it's your friend that's offered to take the place of someone else. Yeah, I'm trying to choose, but, well, we're saying that I had lost the Science Pure at Secondary 5. I could continue in Science Pure at the Segept because I had been pre-requies.

So, at Cep, I'm in Piscope. I was in Piscop because I had to have been in Langement. I'm going to I'm at least I'm doing that's a pretty much what I thought

I didn't know I'm going to when you're coming to arrive at my party with the questioner of the same time you could be able to

do you if you want to why not? But, but in the time? With that, yeah,

with, it was what the piece? The malade imaginary. The malade imaginary. Yeah,

yeah. It's not yeah. No. And it's on second at five, it's not

nothing. It's a great contract, yeah. It's had been it had been passed. Yes, it

was very very, very much. I had almost been in my course. My proff

of history me had given to because the piece of the theater. My professor me gave

to have done to be to have done that I did that I was just I was really really,

I'm really to find out to find out after. The ivness that you had been

your first when the when the piece started, it was very

classic the nine cuts of baton it's me that he'd like he was like I'm with my can the pom-pom pom-pum-pom-pom-pom

pom-pom and the state in the case I'd have been in the night and I'd have an impression that I've never made a pot

I'm like floted You levite? Yeah I was really in a state and it's an space of an state

that I'm still I'm always I think I think more but I'm just I remember have had these reflections

when I was at the College National to try to to get through this ivress that, this intensity that magic there's just

not true. Is that you to touch a little bit to the frown to this intensity? Not so, and it's not

and it's it's really it really, in the same it's fitted with the piece also it's, it's

it's it's gross it, it's it's, it's it's, it's due with a t-magicule. Oh, yeah,

So, but it's it's so. Maybe if I retouched at a theater in this genre, but what I'm interested in the theater, it's certainly,

I think for that I'm in front of, it would be a creation. Something is a new piece of theater. You're at who when you're entering at the school

of theater? A crisis of question, that? I'm sorry, I'm sorry, the buoyed by. Yeah, um,

uh, I'm a little, I'm just at key. I know not a lot of this milieu that. My mother

was a professor of piano where I did the music yes, I had a certain baggage,

if we artistic, but on the literature, I didn't someone who'd people,

I didn't know anything of the theater, I know anything of the show. I was,

I was ready to see I really liked the international. It's got really formed,

it's it really enriched, you it makes think of something, I'm

a lot of, I'm going to the first year, I'm at the first I'm at so I'm in so I'm in

every school every night. A good ride. And the end of the time, so I'd get my

gang in the park he'd a house. And at a moment I, I was mad

paranoia in fumant uh, because I had like, I had like need

of my head all the whole. I had some of the thing to work,

and there, it was it had a little, it was not also effective if we're that's a

little encrace. Yeah. And I really clearly view my eeyer to get.

At a moment I, I mean, I had the impression that my conscience was more

large than, I'm in a world that I had been apparently on the

on the on who we and that I would say it's the main thing that's the time I'm

it's about your mom your your mother and what's the that you 've been a actor comedian

my mom had a little inquiette it's sure but in same time we're teaching the piano

it's like it's like it's like my mom and my mom were together My father, he me had never said.

He told him never talked. Not really, no. He was like, no. It was like my choice. Even like, I mean, I,

I had been to, I had been asking one time, my father, and he made it for pay the school, for pay,

to pay. Is he he came to do you know to be at your parents? My my mother,

yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. A nice She said with my

mother at she has all she had all all the time all the film and she had to be a great story

with your mother on theater what's what you're I'm the chien Jean Mark

Dalpe yeah yeah I would tell I mean so watch that but I had two

years in 88 but it's a great piece of Jean Mark We're

we're we're playing at a salp pretty special more experimental it's made

for the thing in the theater is quite quite And at co-cote, you're the grand cell

at the theater of New Spelty. And at all the night, I went on the scene of the theater of New Spelty because there were

no, for my re-chof-ment physical. And there were a tradition that we've always an opul and there was a

space of lamp on the scene with an ampul and I went there and I did that and I did my exercises. And I'd

see someone sitting all in the middle of this grand space that that's not not clear, there's just there's a

little bit of the little light. I was just I'm in the face. But I just had to see that

my mom. And then she said my man. And then she said, and then she said,

she was, ah, you've said you're a little sal, it's not that's a

little bit that. I'm there, and I'm going to I'm going, I'm going,

it's a bit You're not in a good place, and at the same time, you have Lionel, who's the only who saw the grandparent, who comes, and he saw,

I'm in trying to mongley with my mother has been brawere, but now, I'm just alone, I'm here in an bus,

and there's asterose, and then, you know, but it's correct with me, and then, he's all right, and then,

she'd know, he'd have, he'd have, many, he'd have been there's already there, and I said, and I'm just correct,

oh, I'm on occupied, and he's all to be able to be it has reported. But just the image of my mother

all alone with the program of the piece. It's due Michel Trembly that you came to me to tell. At Salle

Denise Peltier, it's an image that he's never quitted. The chien is a piece on the

relation between a father, a relation complicated, for the wife. The mother

Elos is very important, but, yes, it's certainly the father. Is it had you had an impression

to reglay of your things with your father at around this piece that?

This piece that I'm all the I've all the impression that the character that I'd

that I'm my man. All the time he. The father of my

father was the way than the father that I had. More

violent. Yes. More violent, more troubled, he has made the things that

are doing, one of the last time that my father, he has got to get the guy

because he is in his son. So, Jay, who comes at the house.

That's your character, yeah, in the chien, yeah, Jay,

it's my person who comes with the father, but I always

view plus that. And it's And, of the first first time, because we had played at Sudbury,

my father at this time he was at at Emmons, not very long. And I had had been a

time of to go to visit, where I'm going in the apartment, where I've seen

all the house that we had left that it was like, I had like, the set

of vessel, the table, because when we're going to have to save to my father,

we had to choose, we'd have chosen, we'd put the most we'd We'd choose the laveoes, sacheuse, or the poil, the fridge d'er. We'd choose the set of salon down or the set of salon down.

What's... What's happened, is that your mother, a morning, has said, there, there's a part. Yeah, my father, you're a voyager of commerce. There was a day in the week, it was on the mercredi, where he'd quashed at the exterior, because he had not the time to do, all the trajet of return. And it's this day, in 1997, that my mom had us reweighed,

and she said, we went. And then we had packed at a maison, and we're parted. So, at cause of the chien, I was reprouped in his in his own in his own

in his own I'm doing the piece, I said, it's so that I'm made visit a bit Timmons,

the center social, Francophone, the aspect francophone, because my father had always been

very Franco-O-O-O-O-O-T-O-T-O-T-O-T-O-T-T-O-T-T-RAN-F And so. And so, and then I was I was going to be on the sofa, and when I was reweighed the morning, he was at a chaise bourseuse, he had had been in the chaise bourseuse,

he was just at the coat of me. And he was in trying to read the piece. And then I looked, and I said, and how do you try that? And he said, he'd be not going to

he's not going to. So, so I know, I'd say very well that it'd be to be a lot. You think that it

that's, he didn't but he's never been to be more at the piece. He would have

been in, I'm interested, but he had you have you have a part to put in what your,

what you, what your grandpair in him? Yeah, that's for the reason for the

one of the reason for that I'm at the point, at the point with Céline, we'd perhaps had

probably to have some, so I'm said, well, I was, I'm

I'm in that the majority of the people who have been batted have a good chance to bathe their children. So that's a reason for what, and in plus, in because of my

problem with the alcohol, and that's that's one of the reasons because I've started a piececanalise that has durated over the two of seven that I've adored

to do that? You'd have to do? You'd recommend? It's like, yes, it's like it's really like voyager, but really voyager in your universe

to you. You discover some. I've discovered some of the things I've really occulted some of the

things that are enormous. When you're conscienties, it's incredible that's just incredible that's that's over.

And is that's bad? The psychoanalysis, it's liberer, especially. It's

to accept, quitted, and how you you're made, and how you're construed, and accept your,

and your own, and your light, and then it's the other, and it's some of the two. Some of it's

suffering, sometimes it's vivant, it's very vivant. And it's often, it's often

the day where it's more to go to go to be going to be the thing,

because there's an sort of, I'm an abandon, yeah. So, so it's

so it's time, your time? Yeah. And at how to be at destination?

I'd have probably continued, but probably that I'd couldn't, I'd probably I'd be, because it felt that I'd be on a year for a certain time, and then finally, I, I, I'd,

I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, but, but I'd like, I'd like that, I'd not, I'd not, that time, in line, you, I've made, like, three years,

at, at the beginning, uh, regular, at all, all the days, after that, but I'd have arighted, and I'm, I was returning in all,

it was a little bit of a pretty seven years. I mean, I'd have even, when I had made my rite to BC-A-A-A-Gauze, I'd have done by telephone. Sometimes I'd

get a call in a telephone, and a desert to the United, and I'd make my 45 minutes. That was super interesting also. I don't know

to pose a too gross question, especially that I had already asked a quite costod, but we've been we've done

collectively from a couple of years to the masculinity. And there's a new expression that exists that is the masculinity

toxic. For you, what's what it's going to be a being a man? Yeah.

To be, being a man. It's sure that the man we associate the

part security. Yeah. It's the first word that me in the an masculinity

Sen, is someone with who I think who can can procure a certain security.

But it's true also for the woman today. It's sure that the other are

more more than they're more. We're going evolved to a diversity.

The famous but for that man can be procured the security,

it he has been with them I'm I'm that I'm not

a woman. That I know. The gross coup today. Yeah,

no, but I'm not, I'm not, I'm, I'm a certain co-feminine, by course. That,

I see, I've got a kind of that's quite developed for a man. I could not,

but we know it's often said. You know, I can have some, you like, like,

like, I'm, like, I'm, like, I'm, like, It's

maybe nuseous to say but I like the bell things. I'm not not even I'm not I'm not

I'm like the whole thing because my my house is super important also for me all the everything

I'm I'm, it's it's that the, I'm, I'm the bell cutelry the,

the, these asiat fated-mine these tricks in, it's the things that I'm sure

to have to that. But, but what's... But I'm but I'm sure that I'm sure there's still that

there's still maybe people, we're afraid to go ahead to go ahead to find a an psychologist, an psychologist,

a therapist. We'd have to, but I can't understand, but it's often it's a long-tabue or particular, but it should

be something that's part also of the system of the system of access to that. The access is special to be more

It's more, and even the problem presently, is that it's difficult to find these psychologists it's quite.

But no, it's one of the things, in the case, I mean, it's one of the activities that I've done

in my life who have been the most enrichesant, the more important. It's really like a

voyage at the interior of your psychie, of your world, of your world,

to the if you're sure that you're sure that you're going I don't like that. But we've

to magazine an psychologist also in plus. Yeah, it's a good

the good encounter. Yeah, I'm on the I'm just on, and I'm

so much inspired of him for for Christoph. For a person that's

that's that for having consultate at some that's that he

confrontant is that we're that we confit a lot of things very

intimate and this person that, no reactie not always?

He he reactices it's like I mean I'm never the impression that it's not

the contrary. I was everything, all the he gobbed it, it's clear. Because I

could be there I'm so I'm so I'm see, I'm just, I mean, it's me

that's me that's $915 at the time for for 45 minutes, and then

I'm sitting there, He had to choose, also. He had the famous divan where you stettant, and you're at the door to, where he had a chair in a queue that would have, I could have made, I'd put it in front of,

he made. He made sure. And I chose the chair. And then I was in front of him, and I'd say, well, what's what we do? Well, he said, what's you want to do? Okay, I'm like, catch it. Okay, if it's me who decides

what we're doing, what we say here. And it's exactly what I'm a psychanalysis. I'm not a psychotherapy, by course. I'm really a psychanalysis. Piccanalise, it's just a long term. For me,

I feel that better. It's a marathon of the arm. Yeah. And so, it's really a moment

that you to give to you to turn to face a specialist of the human or the mechanism

that will try to to try to to find the phrase that you say that are important

and those that are more, and who will be in your discovery or your

own apprenticeship to quit to learn to learn in psychology in psychology we can't

we change because we learn to learn to learn to you know, but you debarras not to your

side, you have just he gives the place. You know, you know, it's a person,

the presser will be soote. So, you have to find you find a way,

but, but we have, choyed. We have really, it's really an end where we can be able to... You have these occasions to experiment. Yes.

And to evacuate, justly, the... On the other side, we're doing to make to be in life. To make a backwash, emotionally. But, it's so,

one of the things important that I've learned that's important to be there's important to be in fact, to have, in the front, to have some, we can, we can

do, we can, say who we're what we're, what we're in, what we're in, by the art, by the painting, by the golf,

by whatever, It's important that we have an space where we can slosh the horse luss. You have the reputation of a guy

who's not but what I understand presentment is you seem more a guy that I'm not a guy who

I'm not saying. It's all the impression that I've used, the guy, he's pitch of the flowers. You can. No, I'm not someone

that, I know, I've never been very far, it's a small talk. That, I know. But it must be that. You have to have a reason. It's a French that. You have to have

right. I hope that you're right. You have pardoned to your father? Oh, yeah. Well, even that my father, what I understand

in psychoanalysis, is that when I said that my father had had a peer than he, and so when I realized When I realized, in the front, the

way that he had made, for me, it's exponential. He, in a certain way, he was liberate.

He had made a good part of the way. There was there were also enormously of violence

and of traumaism, that, that, he, he had, he'd do some

violently, but he could not do that, that, that, for me, it came

confirmed, the reactions of my pal, the temperament of my father, it's it really

to confirm, it's in the liberal abet exist not. Is that you regret to have

often made the party in your youngs no, no, no, no, because I

've been I'm out of I've got to be regretted. In fact, I'd have not

regretted, I'd have been at the point that? Let, to and

it would it would start to be dangerous it could it could start

to be a special there was there was there had even more fun there was

there had the fun to 10 minutes and after that it was like an

space of a a need of a a

not not we're not not we had been part

for It's been So it's for many times I've been I've been to say. No, I'm content

to be there because I'm not there I'm trying I mean, there's been there's been there's been

in this debauch there, these moments very rich, some, the, uh, the,

the, uh, because that's that, because I'm there's been there but I'm really there,

I'm really, I've been to buy, I've been to, it's been many of the ,

It's for that it's a 30th of years. Yeah, it's so. In 26, it will

have to be 30 years. Yeah. You port the name the same the same?

Yeah. It's not of my fault. It's not your fault. It's not Yeah? Is it

like a cardo or it's a point? No, but it's sure that one of the

one of the one of me said when I'm to be when I'm to say, you're saying,

and that I'm let's say by by, in the But a bonhomme, in the fund, in the front of my father, who were the friarer of my

mother. Jacques, he was a psychiatrist, professor at University of Montreal. André, was a criminalogue, one of the most grand contours

that I've encountered in my life. He's really has really really been, Andrew, he's really my father spiritual. I'm saying,

and he said, plus I'm calling to Andre, more I'm resemble to my father. So, it's sure,

to porte his name. But, again, And then, psychoanalysis, because of where I'm I'm seeing, the connoisseance that I've,

I've got enormous of respect for my father. What I said a time, he has made a, in the, I can be who

I'm going to be who I'm not so bad by moment. But a chance I've had these two bonhom there also. André

me has so much influenced. Roy, I've read There's many of the interview that you've

accorded the course of the last years of the time before you explain

your own to say you to say to say it's what I'm exactly, to more to more

to be more and there there's always the journal apotein that reprint Oh, yeah,

after 2018? Yeah, Roy Dupuy he never to do it's terminated he's terminated he, he

announced in 2018 in 2018 in in 2018 in in an interview that you accorded at

the press you said that you would more turned, that you wanted to bring a

pause. You're where by a lot of that? I'm not there. You're not.

Now, it's a same. It's quite simple. If we we're talking to live, the emotions

that I'm there's sure that all the life and at a heart-battant, I was, I'd be

the two I'm getting the emotions. It's off. It's, and I'm, and I'm, I'm,

I'm trying, I can't have to do the affairs at a of situation that.

So at the end up, I'm trying to be in the long format there also. I think the TV series,

I'm not sure that it's finished for me. But, I'm found in the situation where,

where, it's the first time I think, because I 've been that's out of the college

that I'm not a project before me. I'm doing things, I accept to anything for there's

there So I'm in a situation where when I don't know I'm an unnui not in a

house, my camppene I'm in my campbell, I'm in the day of things are too short

and I'm I'm trying, I mean, maybe it's maybe it's maybe it's simple, like a

situation to what? To what it seems a day in your life when you're

not of your not of my affairs? No, but you do what you do you

We've got to say a garden. I mean, I don't say, I'm a potager. It's a lot of course not very well. And it's depuis a couple of years, but I think that I've planted a year a bit of time, but there's a bit of time. But, there's a lot of it. And it's so that it's funn to my own. Because the racine are long. So I change the garden of place.

I have plenty of affairs. I have a house of 1840. It's a month of the entreat. I have some of the pool. I mean, you know, I'm a couple of jocassibook. I'm a little. I like that he works, so it's dangerous because there are there's a lot of the corner of the coin,

so I can't he let's just out. So I've passed a bit of time with my epaul in leasinginging, in doing things, in gardening, like. It's a beautiful life, so. Yeah, yeah. I'm also a little gamer. But I'm just, like, a game at a while.

I like a lot. And I've just made sure my computer. This year, I decided to me to make a PC with a system of refodicement at the water. It's a super

beautiful machine that I was really the impression to play at Frankenstein when I was when I was you had to start at 9?

MMO, is what already? MMO is massive multiplayer online. So there are there people in the world who play

who play with without without, without, yeah. He's not photee who. Yeah.

No, no, that's they're sure that they're not. And it's that's the fun Also So I see that

The morning I can just I'm just the morning I'm at the I'm at least Rapid It's a good Exercise of

Concentration Also, I'm It's like that What other I do? I mean, I've been up to repair I'm a pergola

That's all I've been I've put to My Boat It's really Trippant I've got Couped my

Arbos I've chosen and I did seven, I've said in seven, I've said in mass. I've done for the winter also,

with my chain of the electric, that I adore. Because I get the time, you know. But if, let's get on, Andrey Forciet,

you'd have a new film to turn. I'll read the scenario. I'll read, I'll read, I, I'll read,

I, I, I mean, because, you know, sometimes you're poach, but there's a few times, but there's a bit of film,

and then there's a, there's a twist and it's a different interesting, then you say, perhaps that's it. Maybe that's the showtner

arrive at a third time. Yeah, maybe, there's a something completely particularly, unique,

which is, so that's, so that I'm going to say, I'm glad to to know that your career is not terminated,

no? I mean, I mean, my, my, that I think I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I don't know who I don't know who I'm going to be in 10 years, I don't, I don't, I don't know the concept for an actor, say, I'll say, I'm going to say, I don't, you know, he'll be

perhaps, oh, well, yeah, it's going to be able to, and so you're saying, oh, well, yeah, it's there that I'm going to be. Well, we're at the end of this entretion. You've already been very generous with me, right? Thank you, to have accepted to quit your garden

and your house don't you can't be able to to go ahead. It's the first great performance

of actor, to have assisted, don't you have been during that you worked? Oh,

you said, okay, with who I have you played? Yeah, it's a tough

that I'm pose. I'm I'm the impression. You know, it's an performance of actor,

it depends a lot of the role, the environment, the quality also. You know, you're

there are roles that are not paying, not in a person has been something,

but it will be not for a performance, so, it's extraordinary what this that person

had to have used to do with what they had, a little for the same

for the but it's not of its fault. Yeah. But, no, I could not I'm being at home with Claude, by example,

it would be merveilleu on this plateau, yeah, but there, you, you, you, where I,

where I've felt that I, I, I, you, no, but, you're good,

there, I've been, but, George Godin, it was, yeah, yeah, yeah,

it was, yeah, it had been to be something to be able to to be to be oh,

well, yeah, yeah, but, I mean, I'd not go to I'd play a person

I'd see, I'd not be able to you know, by the person, I was,

I was there for, so I'm, so, like, like Baudin he could know we

would be and I, I'd play with, I, I'd I, I,

so, so, so, it's not like, to go to go to, see, a lot of,

and, when, when I, when, when, when I, I see the film, I mean, I know all, I know, I

know, I've seen, you know, I'm doing all right, you know, so it's, you know, so it's sure that, well, it's a partner to work extraordinary, but I've got plenty,

yeah, I'm in plenty of partner of the work exceptional or unique, or, it's an unicity, who is, that's important

in a life, you know, one, you know, at the beginning, there, there's, there, there's,

there's, there's, there's, there's, who... Yeah, yeah. Ben, Nietz. I took a course

on Nietzsche, a professor of the Sorbonne, in line. And then, I remember to one of the phrase,

and I think one of the phrases is the more the more just that I know, and Nietz

has said, Devien who you is. He's not said, So, who you

is. Devin who you are. It's always a It's a It's the It's the

It's the work It's a But who you are Not what The other They want

That's the eloges of the unicity And I think That's where we can be

in the front be the more living when we when we are

so the more possible Rye, this balado Sintitual Just Between You and Me

Is there a last thing would say that would be to be just between Yeah, you know,

I'm not I'm not I'm a point that, you're droll also. We're still we're

on your part comic Yeah. I'm I'd like that we're for a

role comic. But I say, it's, it's, it depends the person who

me interview, you that also. I think it's a good. No, but it's right. No, I'm

not, I'm not I'm not I'm not. I'm not I'm not I'm saying, but I'm

a question in the last question in the question, is a question that's a question that I've asked a

question that's is a co-anxio? No. No? I've got to be able to the liberal arbitrate?

It's so, a liberal arbitrate to the fact that we're exactly where we're supposed to be,

yes, I'm want to to try to try to do the first

possible, and then we'll be able to see a but we're but the human

would be not the first to disappear I'm not the first that's not especially

what's that's the robotics and the biomegeneery presentment I think

we're really in trying to construct a other species that will me

to make inuital. Well, in certain domain. But if I come in what you said

I said until, the intelligence artificial, that also is natural. Yeah. Yeah,

we can not get to the nature. If it's not natural, we could not be able to do you

have. It's simple to the same, the same. Thank Roy, to have

been who you in my company. It's makes a pleasure. Well, pleasure, it's a great

moor, let's turn. It's all the fun, let's it all fun, okay, it's good. I'm going to be. Oh, yeah. Just between you and me.