Juste entre toi et moi - Stéphanie Boulay

Episode Date: October 27, 2025

« Je suis dure à mettre mal à l'aise », répond Stéphanie Boulay quand on lui demande quel sujet elle n’aime pas aborder en entrevue. La chanteuse raconte pourquoi elle s’est longtemps haïe, réfléchit aux questions morales liées à l’écriture de chansons sur ses proches et annonce (presque) sa retraite de la musique.

Hello, here, Dominique Tardiff. Ah, well, to just, between, you and me, welcome to the avant-dernier episode, before the last episode of this 6th season of Just Between You and Me

It's an episode that makes in vedette I've asked in the encountering for this interview It's an episode

a fedet an fiddle auditrice of just between my invite today is Stefani

Bully Stephanie is launched in April last his second album

solo which is Is that someone me see? Great question

She promen the songs of this album A little part to Quebec these days she'll be at Lion Dore at Montreal the 7 November next on the occasion of Coup-toe Francophone

The Hazard has wanted that it's his batterer Mr. Charles Blondo who's found behind the console at Studio Madame Wood the day

of the enjutrement of this entretien Stefani she has also launched a few months a series

ballado that's Apparete The Neurodivergence Invisible. It's a balladour in which she recount its discovery of its own neurodivergence. We've been in this

interview that you'll hear in some moments. I'll remember that you can read the article that I've taken of this encounter in the Press Plus on the Press.C.

Or, the application mobile of the press, other than all the platforms of the press, you can also we'll leave a good note or a commenter on Apple Podcast or

on Spotify. And, here, without more tardy, my entretion with the very amable Stefani Bully. Just between you

and me it will it will be between you and me for a one It's

Between You and me How you're How? How do you It's 15 hours At the hour

At the hour When you're A person You know, I'm wondering How to put your energy In the end of

day? I'm a little d'Anne normally But I Bue a kind of Two-Caffe

before to come here But that I'm in trying to demanager in this moment so I'm like in a boar

from the morning to the morning I was reweighed at six hour and a minute but I made full of insominy because I was

rebe at two hour and a minute and I prepared my response I had totally enerved to come here this, it's like

I'm wondering to what he will be talking no, but it's like I know not necessarily me say

I'm not necessarily to be used to talk because it's a bit all the time of the same so I'm so I'm imagining

in which you could me prepared mentally, but it's really a cave. I've got many questions to ask you. Okay. In which sentient, you'd imagine, that I'm going to train me?

I'm wondering, if you'd like me about me about, of my parents. These times I do that. Yeah. I don't know. In fact, I've got any of it. Is that you'd make a mal-a-laze? No.

I'm not really, I'm sure to make mal-a-laise on the level of questions. But in the same time, I'd listen also your episode with Karine Vanas. And I'm, I'm, I'm full remiss in question because at a moment of the fact that

the people who expose their trauma rapidly, it can be a tool of manipulation. And I'm so really, because my, it's like trauma bonding, it's my,

it's my fashion to communicate with the people, and I'm to do for them or for the, I don't know, to me impose to them,

that I expose also easily my tor and my travers. Yeah, because Karin talked to because it could have

of pejorative, but to beaulnerable before the other it's often very beautiful. I think that yes, but I'm questioned

to know if I had not the intention of manipulation behind, all, but my Psy, she would say that would be

not content. Why? She'd say, encore, you'd be in question, you'd be delegitime, you'd gaslight to yourself.

But, in the case, there's a lot to gaslighted, you, could me to do and what

is that you you're laced to talk in our view? Of what we're talking about all the time? There's

I'm laced to nothing. It's not I repeat the same about the same times all the time

to all the I'm in my band I don't know I'll see that I'm he'll see there's a

there's not I'm not there's I'm not I'm trying you're you rod your anecdotes

anecdotes. Exactly. I think I'm really a trick of like I like I'm saying I'm

like that I'm sure puncher so I'm working on my delavvy of my anecdote.

I've got a most recent album but I've also the first the first

that I don't disappear not. The first song on this album

that it's entitled your then you talk to your mother, you're

you're fatigued? You're fatigued to what at this moment I tried to

I'm re-plonged I'm at I'm at the moment I'm probably celibatear far probably celibateur it's like I'm

that I'm in two tourne of the sorboulet celibate with the impression that my life that my life

didn't that I'm that I'm that I'm parted on a road trip like in States

in Chor during a couple years for to write, and for, like, I don't know, to do what,

in my life, like, I'm searching, I'm trying, I'm sure, I'm not too.

But, um, yeah, I'm, yeah, I'm afraid to maill, primarily,

to be, to be, not necessarily to be only necessarily, but to be alone, even if I'm

really, to myir, especially, like, my image, I'd say, and I think also to courier

after the approbation, the success, the approbation by the success, to courier after a marker of success

that would be the impression that I'm, that I'm complete, that I'm entire, that my

life has served to something, a marker that when I had 10 years, I'd say

that place, And then when I was attained, I said, no, no, in the phone, he is there, and the marker, he's just mounte, and then to get, and I attain never the sentiment

that I search, atten. There was already a marker when you had 10 years? Yeah. And then what, at this moment that? Well, I remember

to have eight years, I don't know, I think, when it's out of, and to listen Romeo and Juliet. The film, yeah.

And to me that I'd say that one I'd like to be actress and that if I have been in a film like, I don't know, with these people that I admire that I'll finally be

legitimate to exist. But that, it's a really long time that I've been even not by the music at the beginning. It was really to be, to be to be heard to be

recognized, me to have a lot to be very that's that for me the

success. And when you had received the light, when the were reported,

you've won't know your first album that you had conned a lot

of success, is that this light has appeased a little momentanement? Not in

all. And I regret There, there's a part of me who know that I'd have not could do other with this sentiment that than what I've done

made, it's to say, me feel kind of, and I'm trying the sense of my life. But in

time, I think that I'm not enough to be able to it's quite, it's quite it's a femur. All the world me had said.

I know that it was a bit futile, but in having been the other side of this

vague that or of this mure or of this climax that, I'm say,

oh, we'd like I'm like I'm like that what I'm that's, what's,

that's, that's that I'm that's that I'm that, because I'm,

I've made what I'm able to do you know I'm able to be able to and I'm extremely

fatigued and I'm extremely self and there there were plenty of the

good who came with that. You tented that even if you were

on the side? Oh, yeah. I think that's in the period of

my life where I was sent to the more alone. Atonement. At the moment,

your career was the most effervescent. Yeah. I think that my sister, and me,

we, we, we were we were superche, and, we, we, I'm really reconnoisseable to have

been, honestly, I don't know how I had been there, it had been But I don't know, I'm

I feel like I'm talking all the time, but at a moment of the time of the time, I had crossed Vincent Vallier in this period I, I love. I love really, and it's the person that I call all the time when I get these questions

or when I live something and it's the first time, I mean, I'm sure that he's already Vecue, I need to have his opinion, how he has traversed that. So I call really often for he demanding

the advice, and he's really generous, but... There's a general to answer, yeah, yeah. And there's all the time the good moe, but I remember in this period that I've crossed.

In other case, I don't know if it's like that's that's been in the way that I'm talking, it's that he's he's put in

his bra and he said really not far, it's rough, huh? And then I said, yeah, like in

like in mode tell me more. And he said, you can't not be on to talk to to person because

all the world will be to find a grate if you say it's difficult to have been difficult

to have been success. Yeah. And it had really done and it really marked. But perhaps

he would have a total story, but I'm like that I'm in registered in my head.

What was that's the eyes were turned to or that's that's that you're to appease

not? I think that's that's more that. Because I never had had enough

success or too, I've never had too of success for having a

certain quality of life. I should never what's know, to be known everywhere,

to me to be talking to be in the whole time. Thank you think, thank you would never

that, because I know how I'm going to be able to the episcree. Really not. It's really rare that

every time I'm like, you know, it's, I'm a tonne at each time, but it's certainly that,

I think, it's to aspire to something that will have really an emotion related to that, and finally,

to be to find out that's all to start and you know it's not where you need to

you know, it's what it's what there's what I'm that's what I'm going to it's like

the desper to say, I'm just just me who can't find something in my that I'm

that I'm yeah, and I'm I mean often in saying that I'm the troup in the door

in the inside of me that's impossible to come exactly, The void, and

and then even today I don't know how to be to be arsoffed of something

It's perhaps not a good idea to sit Kanye West but now that we know that we're

paraphrase where he said a few when you're the first question that you're

where the VIP of the VIP I. Oh, yeah. I know that it sounds a No, but it's

That's so VIN, yeah Formuling in this But you know I'm let's A VIP For me

it's the most grand Couchment So it's not that my head the VIP but I

understand the Yeah But what's What's we do with the Trou Noor so it's

something I'm with my therapist Ah Yeah I'm I'm talking

this this time I hope to give a destination but I should be to describe

what is this destination and I know pertinement that even if I'd would be able to any way,

it would be able to do you, if I'm if I'm a question? Is it, is the impression that is professional

or more personal? Plus professional, yeah. Because on the plan personal, I'm sound combed.

It's all what I'm to what I have always I've always I'm even advantage. Okay,

it's a perceive zero like a person asoafed of, not of glory, but, you know, I'm the

impression that there are the people who have been having been so much, and to exist, and I'm the

impression that the people like, I know, yeah, I'm like, even if I'm not

even if I'm under the light of the projectors as, but you're but what I do,

it's a business public, it's a certain man, but in the

which you're not, you're not, you know, but I want that's a lot of success. Yeah. And that's true, and that's

special, and that's really things really really, really new. That's right. Okay. I'm excuse that you live so,

I think it's flat, but in the same time, there's something in more that's a piece. And then the

people do you make some and all all the all of course, it's like, it's not the other

side, it doesn't, or the other seconds second second maximum. But the critic rest you plus? Yes.

It's so. I have a list. I know their name. It's so. Okay. Okay. Well, we're

all the same in the phone. I don't know if we're all the same but the people who's

still in this studio so probably partage that. But what's we do with this troup with the

true that, with the true no way? Well, in fact, in the last years I've started to

realize, first, that I'll arrive probably never, but that I can me serve

of that like it's cliched but of an motor and I

think that I think that my career of artists me made plafone

spiritually emotionally emotionally I don't how it's I'm like I

think I think I'm my phase teteard in the industry of arts and spectacle

and that maybe my phase I know grenoue or whatever has in a

an other universe. The choice of vocabulary menu, it's a big metaphor, yeah. I'm thinking of that. We're in the

batracian. The batracian, but I feel that I'm called out here in fact. And it's a couple of years that

I've been inscrite in, you know, I'm going to be an inquatrice in a couple years, so I'm going to

get inscribed in a co for that. Finally, I've tried that's super platt, I lost after a

year, and then I'm got to at UCM at BAC, I'm I'm going to Like, ah, I think I'd like to be

avocate. I think I'd like that to work for the Project Innocence, Quebec, and I'm I'm saying a bit in ryan

because I know that's completely deloloo to think that, but I'd really be coroner a day.

It would be an excellent article, in any case, the chanteus to coroner, Cepanii Bully. Yeah,

but the only other, it's a real other example, when I I'd say to people, the people say,

oh, you're the Kim Kardashian of Quebec? Because she also, she has made his barro. I don't know. It's not what? It's not.

It's not. Me, no, really not. But I'd like that. I'd like that. I'd like that. But, yeah, I'd say,

we'd say, I'd say to other other things, and to, yeah, to find completely other things. But when we

think to the creation, usually, we'd imagine that's something that's something that we come spiritually

justly. And then it's a, It's a produce more this effect for you? It's a

conversation that I'm at the infinite with my proches constantly. Is that

the creation in so me comble in the door of the reception, in the

people, the people, the people, is that people? And I have the impression

that it is, maybe more now, when I when I when I

look, my 15% of time, it's to pre-re- my next post,

to film my content, to think of a new alternative to go to convince the people to me like, yeah. To make the promo, to take care of your mark. Exactly.

And so, it's made for us to make sense like like the cred-d-d-nay, in the sense where the platforms, the algorithms, everything, all the

way, the way, my algorithms function, is that I have not like, I've got to visibility, all my content is cached to my abonnors.

So I'm all the time to me say, what I've made to make And then the world, I goss the world, I think, in the front, the people are tanned to me. But after that, I pass on the road, and I'm going to in a cell of spectacle,

and, no, I don't, I want so much of my project solo. But the message that I receive when I'm with these people in real life and that I'm doing my art, it's really not that the people can't get offutt and that's just like two realities, completely parallel alternative. But 75% of time,

I'm going to be like, I'm more pertinent. All the world's allude. We've got to I'm going to be in the other. I think that's,

in the time, in all the case, where there were more of the place associated to these techniques that of diffusion,

we were more face-a-face with people and we partaged these things of a way more organic. But in

the same time, it's, if I, if I'm doing, And I see that there's person who has listened, it's going to be able to do it, yes, you know, because it's what we like to think,

that we're trying to do pleasure in the processus, and that satisfaction, the pleasure of the processus, will be, to be able to be, that we're not to attend the validation

of the people who are what we've created. I don't, I think it's not that I'm combed. I think not that I'd, I think that it's not just not the public. I think that's,

all the processus of creation, it's to say to invite my songs to someone that I know that's like in my

case, Alexander Martel. I'm going to Alex. Ah, and it's that, and it's so,

that's the fun. It's a lot of hormone positive, like, that's like... But that's

the creation. Yeah, it's the processus. Yeah. But I think that there were not the people

that I'm around to me for partage the creation, if it was just me by about

to me, I think that it I'd be in a portraitry, what it's So, yeah, what you announce, is that it's maybe the end of your career of a chanteuse? It's perhaps your last interview

in as a chanteuse? No, I don't, I guess not. And, you know, I'm made a dream. Well, maybe, maybe. Maybe, so, who's see? But I have the impression to do my drumma queen

when I'm going, I'm going, I'm going to quit, reten me. And in a year, we'll receive a commune to us to start a new album. It's so. turn it d'adue, you know, it's a

bit, like, tell me to rest, let me, no, no, but in time, I'm I'm still

pasted by this, this game of the emotion, that during the pandemic, I would have

no pleasure to write, I had been to say, I was, so I'm saying, I was,

I'm became a, I'm a little. And then I said, ah, I think it's more

I think it's for me, and finally it's re-revenu. So, there's a great chance that they're

going to eventually. But, to all the time, in five years, the rhythm where I'm in

the time, I can't live of that, assurably. So I'm not the choice really. Ayye,

at this point that? Well, yes. But is that it would be valuable also,

let the sors boulé, you repart on tour, You're enrageted a new album. I don't think that we can live of that

no more. My son my son is at the school in the moment, yeah. Why?

Because the redevance of the platforms of the court in line are inexisting or at

pretty? All that and the, you know, the, I see the, I don't, the, the billet

spectac can't be not augmentate because the people have a revenue that

is not exponential, the day, the depents augment enormously, but in the time,

you know, I regard I regard because I feel because I feel really much I'm trying to I don't know

I'm not in my life to talk about to that. And I look I paid my money the same a same

a year a year a year when an apartment cost $700 pious. For me it's not to sense

I'm like I can't continue to pay the the world the same amount when it's cost

two times cost two times more than I'm not I'm not with that I'm a less

with that so yeah I don't know. It's just that if the Sour Bully, if Stefani Boulay

don't be in measure to live of their music, there are a packet other who are more capable no more.

It's at that that I think all the time. And I think that I'm question a question a because

I have the impression to be the self to live because I think it's like,

well, I'm the sort of I'm don't know because it's gendant, it's humiliant, and it's

and it's always a bit jenna to talk about to talk about of the money but also I think that the artists are having to have

the loser Yeah, to have them to come to me see, come to me encourage. Yeah,

and also, you know, the famous fear of being Azebine and it's that, so I'm

all I'm invent these stories that have not a part and in the fact, and in the fact,

it's very viable and I don't know where we're really a great gang to to look

the chiff. You know, our company with the or-boulet has deficitar in four years.

At a minute if we're doing it will be able to be zero but perhaps not zero but if we

don't know a deficitar a year, it can't be a there's perhaps something I don't know

there's something that I'm maybe, there's something that's that it's so. The social,

you're not the first person that's the point it to be a point it's for the artists

First, but for many of the people who seem that their identity virtual take a place

disproportionate in their cotidien, is that you could just turn the door to say, I'd

say, I'm do you know, to announce that just a spectacle at Repentini or at Brossar.

Again one time, excellent question, because I talk all the time, we're all

the time, we're all the time, um, I'm would tell it's trying the

essayed. I'd like to do you get to or mandate someone, do you know,

a time I'm a show to do you do with a pre-programmed and I don't know how many

people people have likeed and I have the impression that I'm not the

luxury that to make the test. Because we're it's a part of

the show, at every show I'm I'm I'm I'm

I'm sorry to there there's not people. Finally, it's correct. There's all the time enough of people for that it's not

sad. But I would not that you'd have more. We'd say it's too a big risk to to learn, but I'd like, I'd have the courage to do it, but I'd like, but if someone has done, if someone has done, if someone has made, write,

I'd say, it's a difference for real, you know, it's just, it's possible that it can't even, that's possible to make believe, that we're done that we're done by the other, and, in the font,

and, in the fact, it's not true, p'n't there, there's really, there's retombe? There are you really more people who

will listen my music or who will be able to if I'm my dance for Tick-Tock? In my

head, yes, but perhaps there's not pantout. But it's also that all the

people who use minimally these platforms that, it's very that's what is to make

our visage in value, to be able to be able to be to be sure. And then that also

it becomes difficult because we are constantly in trying to be to be

to be to look at it, and if we don't even if we're not too, it's it can be to be able to talk for me. You can

talk for me also. I don't I don't how I know how I get that in tout

because that I'm 38-year- I'm there's some I've been on face

but I can't I'm and I'm also that the the fact that I'm more capable

to live to my music that's a rapport with the fact that I'm perhaps that I'm

going to be alexant I think to do that it's terrible it's horrible. It's horrible. And we

live all, in the kind of maybe, maybe it's just me in my world.

But it's extremely toxic, yeah. It's not always agreeable. I'm not

you know, I'm not sure that I think more less because I'm a man and we do not the same

the same way, and we do not recently I've made a video for the journal for our account TikTok a critic of

an album of our favorite of Taylor Swift. Oh my God. And we can't talk about. I'm not sure I'm not sure

I'm not sure I'm not sure I'm okay we're talking we're talking I'm going to talk about to the album

of Taylor Swift and in in the comments there's there's a young who said why is

why is my grandp we talk about the album of Taylor Swift Come on, man, Hey.

Hey. I'm 39 I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not okay,

thank you Hey, come on Hey, I I'm fru Tyrell and he respond on on the

Contacta of the press First First, I'm sure that our Our grandpair would something interesting

to say that It's what Togism Deguptain But also you're zero lair of a grandpair

I'm sorry, but... Thank you. Tantau to employe the verb Maire in talking to how you

when you're writing the song your feet. It's kind of a verb that's charged.

Yeah. I have a lot of violence by about to me. Really a lot.

And also, I realize that my perception of me and that's not me, it's

the person of which I'm whom I am I'm very very well entoured in

this moment that's what that's incredible in my life, but sometimes

I'm saying oh, but I'm I'm in same, I'm doing an adjective I'm just

whatever and the person before me will say really not not, not of

zero. Like what? I'm I remember not, it was what the last last time

I, I'm, we're talking to shower and grower, but not on point of

view of the member, not at Point of view of the Wood. It's the price for a reference to the last album of Taylor Swift

in which she's in the same and the power of the power of her fiancée. But plus on the level of the personality, you know,

the people that you've got to the first time and they're done a lot, and it's done well and then after that it's stomp

and you're like oh, there's that that's that I'm there's some also. Exactly. A gross

of heart, first ear, first time, and the subsequent, it's supposed to You know, an album, the first time, I don't understand. And then, it's a lot of it.

It's all right. And it's so, and for the personality, the people who, you know, like, my clavierist, Camille, she, is more grower. At least, you know, you're like, oh, it's cool, yeah, okay. And then, then you see all the nuance, the complexity of her personality, and at how point it's rich, and at how point, it's, all the contrary, and is really complex as person.

And then, I mean, I'm saying, I'm a shower, you know, and then, And then Camille has responded, really not. Not due to at least. But me

in my head, the first time when we're there's the where I'm to offer, according to

my perception. Because it's where I'm bobbly and where I put my mask, and I

want to dovertire and I want that the people pass a good moment with me, I want,

I want, I want, they're to give them, but after that when I'm when I'm

for certain persons who are proche of me, it's there where it

becomes the fun to me cotoying. Is we the word diagnostics? Your

diagnosis of neurodivergence has calmed the violence of your thoughts of your own over yourself?

Yes. Really. Really, really, really. It's really, because there there are

some period where I mean, finally, I'm not neurodivergent, finally I'm

very normal. The periods where it's where I'm a stressor or I'm with the same people who I'm

in the same or I'm trying not too, I'm like, I'm just all over, I'm sure, I'm doing that,

I'm sure, and the period where, you know, I'm in some time, I'm, and my chom

he capote a little, because there's all that's all that's sort, you know, he's like, okay,

you're really, you're really, you're really, you know, you're not, you're not, No, no, no, no. I'm like, okay, the control, the stress,

the, the, the things that change, and I like that, and the, the rigidity, that, that, that's, you know, that's, I realize also that I've been really chanceous in life, because if I had been,

like, on the market of the work regular, with a job, time-plain, nine to five, in a bureau, whatever, no matter, in which context,

in fact, the peer of my symptoms resorted when I had there were jobs, just of a day normal, like,

the fact that I'm that I'm able to be an artist for all this years, for real,

incredible privilege, benediction. It's made, I think, to survive, literally,

to have an hour that sometimes I don't know, that I don't know, two years of break,

three years of sometimes when I've made things more stressant. I'm I'm not just,

I'm sorry, if it had calmed, it had calmed the violence of your You're thinking about yourself

to receive this diagnostic? Yes, definitively. I think that not only only calm

my own own my own my my but I think I'm

I'm more also because I exist more. I've I've the impression that

I've I'm think I'm I'm I'm I'm I didn't

really I know, I see that, he is too but, yeah, I'm, I exist

a lot in this moment, I'm decoub, I do the truth, I'm the truth, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I demand these things to, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm a better

person, in fact, it's, it's a to be more to discover at what's the age?

38. At 38? A 38? A 38? A 38? A new grandmaire. Why the grand mom

us give us on album of Taylor Swift, yeah? I've talked to the song your because what's my

perverse, is that like that, is that the first song of your album is address to

your mother and the first song of your album doesn't exactly to

your but you talk about to your of what it's what you separate

of a guy what's the that's not that's not an child? Why is your mother this place

that, a tell place in your song? First, I would just say, thank you

to have this, because it's the kind of of thing that I'm doing a

soft too also. I'm I'm the Easter eggs. There's there's plenty

that I have done 95% all the people so the I mean, it's made, because I'm happy, but I'm content

that you'll have remarked. Mama, I'm amuse, which I talk all the time, the poor. That's what you're in the remorsement.

Is she she thinks it's not aggrable? You talk to her at this point? We'd say, it's a touch. I think she

can't even at the first degree in the sense where she'll have that. I think it that it's, it's made

a little vloor that I, I see important in my life and I'm demont of this

fashion like that. I think that's that's a question. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

Why? I'll occupy this Why? Why? A tell place in your

song. Oh, my God. Well, a matter, it's important. Yeah, but, uh,

it's really a good question. And I realize that I never thought to that or in any there's like

a question me came, but I see if I'm game. We're we're not in your

ballado. And it's very touching I'm trying to know what I'm trying to I think I'm really close to my mother and I'm

doing much with her we're going to work in vacance we're doing but I think I'm not the chance

to have with her the conversations that I would have really that, that we're talking about

sometimes of the real affairs and that's I'd like the people can't be your face

it's like it's like if you rugissed the real affairs. And we don't say it

doesn't work not, I don't know because we're able we're not often, there's

something that it's, it's not it's not, I'm trying to say that's she's responsible of

that I think I'm really really much but I think that now I think, when it's

in a song again a time, and I'm made for plenty of other subjects, in plenty

of situations, but can me permit to do the real things in a There's a

There's a intermediary there's an intermendial, there's a distance. Exactly. Yeah.

But it's really that it's cool, how our parents, it should have in theory, the people don't we're the most

proche, then, and there's often, like, a distance that's impossible to comeble.

But it comes to all the fact that these people, we've seen, and we

know, all we're all, I'm, I'm, I'm going to talk for my

my mother and my my father. It's a question for us. So you protect?

Yeah, there's a part of that. I can't me open like I'm with the family because

I know that it's they're just their cause to the anxiety. They're they're not not going to

do that. Oh, oh, it's platt. But in the same time, I know people who are full

proche of their parents and they're called every year and he's called that there there's

there's a ghosted and that you're you're not that you're not it's already

arrived. On certain things, we can't connect to, I can really not me

to plan to my mother it's, it's a very a good person, like,

she's totally of good and she and she to have attention, you know,

it's like the gap generational it's like a distance precise, physical, That's just where I'm

place in the life, the distance is there, like, yeah, like, yeah,

but I'm, my relation with my mother is hyper important, and I'm really far on,

like I abandoning not, let's, I want, we really, we're really, that we continue to

continue to do things, I'm, I want, I know, I'm saying, I'm, I'm,

I'm, when I'm when I'm when I'm know, no, no, no, no, I like that, it's I'm interested, you know. And I think that, I think, much,

me, my carapace, my, uh, I'm fru contra her, because there's 15 years, she's not, she's not, she's not, she's not, she's not, I'm not at cause

to that, that's a thing, and I'm, like, fashed against her, I, I think I'm a good way, like, I'm a man,

in fact. Yeah, with our parents, we redevien, rapidly the person that we're at, I don't know, 13, 14, 15 years. Yeah.

Plain of ingratitude. Yeah. Your father, he's like, that you talk to him in songs, in these terms, let's view,

on your recent album solo, but there's also a question where he is, resumably, who, he,

that's about him on the last album of his Aurs Boulé. It's more complicated for me to

talk to my father, but again again, a little like for my mother, but no,

different, but I think there some things said, some of the conversations that have

had used and even who have not had been, but some things that's

had been a cause of the songs. And I remember a moment

when we had started the song like there was many people

who were really very, very fash against us in your

family yeah really really fashed I'd even violent and my

my dad us has defended at the and he he said I'm not that

that you have you have gotten and you bonte not you don't yeah

that far because what we would reproached is to have inventing

so don't you question? No, just to have exposed. To have revealed. For the

for real, I'm trying. Like, when you're in the life of someone who can't be

and it's really not not the same way, but I'm live with my chum in this

moment. My chum is the person who has the most the most of attention

that I never ever he's always completely not he's not he's he's super

fared of me and he's see my shows and all, but it's it doesn't not,

he's not not, he will not be going to be to be in the disc with because he is important

for me that's important for me that's, not for the he's not for he's forced but it's really not

natural for he. He's not not sure he's not sure he's I think

he would be a crisis of panic if it's would be. And we And we have often

the conversation like, I try to I'm trying to try to I'm not like the I'm not,

you know, in fact, I'm pretty to get of photo of him or to what he or what's

on the certain songs, I know, I know, I know, it's a anguores, a perception,

that the people will have of that, he respect really, you know, he respect

that I'm my liberty and that I have to that I'm that I'm often we're often the

talk, is you correct if we we're doing that, and then we So we're doing that, and so I try to make attention, and I think that there's

certain people who, you know, in our lives, who are in touchy, by these things that we're not searching, who have not wanted, and it's like not just at some part, you know, but in the same time, it's a question that's really tough for me. And, you know, I'm talked also, by rapport to, on my album, the

song, The Mavis Question, you know, and in the same time, there was the pursuit of John Philip Plow for Rue du Plessy, his family who'd he'd in the case

in the case you know person, so the people don't know the questions who are inspired, the song

the music would be denocere if it trannet on course, if he'd be able to

yeah, and I think there's some that there's people who have been for the form and

in the that's a other story but, but it's again again on

Taylor Swift, but I mean, I remember, at a moment of a... We're going to say, but... But, yeah. I remember at this effect to ask, how your ex will reactire, that you

talk to them, and that you say, is that's these true-de-cue in their songs, and they have responded to what, in saying, well, they're just

to be the true-de-cue, I mean, but in the same time, it's that. I've got any idea of what I think of that. I think that

for the people who are exposed, but in the same time, me, in time, I'm, in time, I can't re-tener that, I can't catch

that. My role in my life, the sense of my life is to noming these

things, I can't pass a -cote, it's impossible. I'm what I'm really the

most, and what's that you go always directly just at the os, we're in

in the VIF. But, you, is that you're not to create not to the

unconfor? Is that you could be able to be able to do not to make a song

on the guys who have not been finished with you but in a manner more

metaphoric and impressionist. I could there are plenty of things that I'm going to

think, but it's like I had not enough to get a to go to my time.

I see not how to the explain. I'm the impression that's

that the people that I'm that's that's the fact, just that I'm not

not a gun-blant and that I think that I think I think I'm not a quite great voice, an

quite great a certain a certain charism for say these things a bit banal there are

plenty of people who don't know it's like if I'm limited, I have a certain

range where I know that I'm not I excel but it's that I'm it's that

intense and to say and to trauma bonded with the public? I think that's a

little reductor, what you say presently, because if we think, for example, to someone who's doing, what you do,

who did that exactly, Annie Erno, by example, I think we could convene that she's very talentedoous,

but in the way, it's a way that's completely vertigeneo. Yeah, but you came to me

to compare to, you mean to say, you just, you mean to say, you know, you know, I think

that Annie Erno could be recounted these affairs really as it's, well,

she's a way, to do you know, there's a lot of, there's a lot of things that's the

thing, that's it. I remember not, she's the book, she's about,

she's the book, I remember more the title, but in the case, just

I think that it's quite too, his point to, his point view, his regard

on the view, it's still unique that she can't say, and it's

interesting, I'm not the impression that I that, in fact. I'm the impression I can just

just talk. Not just of me, but what I live or what I've been able to. I think you're a little

hard. Maybe. That's not the first time. Well, it's it would be in the sense of what

we said that's, yeah. On your album, there's even a song on the

version venal. And then it's you that's the last time that we've seen the

last time to the last time at the last of the face A of your album,

which is a song that's a bit in the same sense than the bad question. Yeah.

Why is you have made just on the vinyl? It exists, but it

exists not on the platform. So, you wanted that we wanted that I

let us comment I, I let us let us explain that. I want to just the fan

hardcore who can't listen. So, and the same that they merit.

Gen. Gen. But, But, again, by the part to what I said I don't know if I had the

right to make this song that at a point legal or to the point moral? No, not

the plan legal, to plan moral. Because I think if I was if I was exposed to

that, I'd be frue. I'd not that just. You know, when we have a

voice in the space public, we have a position a bit not of authority,

but we have a power, in fact. And then to expose these people who have not this voice public there, who don't have to power or more of power at this level that, it's like debalanced,

I don't know, I'm brainstorm. You know what? What's it? What do you? But it's also, I don't know, I don't know,

I'd say what, the word to employe, but a form of affection or of respect for these guys who have not been gentle at your

regard, to say it's not if you want to be able to how they they're going

to react to this song to the that, to the but what is

that's force the respect? Well, I'd certainly not say the same

I'm probably about, you know, we're an interview with,

I, she's not Rebecca McCownen I, I'd say completely a other

response, I think, like, yeah, I think, I think I, I have a consideration.

Yeah, consideration. But also I'm conscious that it's my point of view, that if the interlocutors had the privilege to say their version, it would be not the same version. It's really tough. But in the same time, it's that, at all the other of all that,

I think that what predominant is the liberty artistic, not at all price, but I don't that I break as to code

ethical for not me prevaloir of this drug of creation that.

I think that's more important that someone is it's he's not he or it's not it's not

it's not it's not these songs that, it's some when we're when we're just

to pose this question in reading a book, it's it's not well, we can

it's it's interesting, At final, you're happy by the story. If we're just in trying to

see that's who's the real person who has made that's a bit nice, no? So it's

like the question of is, is the work surpass the anecdote or the potinage

or the curiosity? Yeah, I'm think that's that for all the songs.

I imagine that Mark Mont has been inspired by a real guy, but the

song transcends the anecdote that I don't reduce what you've but, you know, the moment

that you've lived, the history that you've with this person, this song, now, it signify of a package of things for millions of people. And it's what he makes that it's a great song. It's about Peter, Peter. You've seen how,

I've been, I'm asking, but in making semblance that I'm as sensible for not to have posed, and you've responded. But I had asked, you know, a couple of years, because I had said on scene, and then I made I had felt

mal. I had said to Quebec, like, and I'm feeling like and I'm going to make it's like, it's

like, well, yeah, yeah, it's correct. It's totally of the history

ancient, and it's really, but it's a story about in the real life, it's a

short, banal, and finally, it's done that, which is, the first, I think,

the first tune that I've written to my life, and I just a face of

atonement present. I'm I've not been surpassed, I'm sure.

I don't I think not that's a good way of quantify the quality of your

work. But it's sure that this song, it's markante, but the moment

when we enter in relation with an artist in this case with the moment that's

a moment that is a fact. It's very. I'm not surpassed in

terms of rejoinded of the people. I think I'm I'm surpassed

in terms of quality of of , but it's can

It's still a great trick to rejoind for real the people that's a

thing, you know, when I said, you know, when I said, it's a true black is still there.

There are quite some where I see my world in live, where I look like

again, I'm quite, I'm not, I'm getting this month and

I'm and I'm I'm like, I'm I'm Fierre to have reached

to make to the world a song that the people of

22 years of 15 of 47 of 75 even they're they're

they're they're they're that like that I think I'm

I'm able to feel like a joy maybe

a we're we we're we it's the first song

that you're I think yes And you had... I had 21, 22 years.

But you've played the music before long time? Yeah, but I was I started interpret,

I've started to think it and I finished the Sejeb, I had 20

years, and I had not even one single song. I'd just

cover. And you have never sent this appell that to create

your own songs? I had other affairs. I'd write

some but we're trying I'm not I'm not able to write I'm remember when I'm

to make sure I'm saying, I'm saying I'm going to I'm doing so I'm going to make that I'm going to

make many many of extensions of jazz a lot of modulation you know some accords dissonant

I wanted to it was complicated because I had the impression that it had not of

the it's not the first song that I read I came to have a flash the first song that I created it's called

not magic and it's a moment where I'm trying to do my accords and then I just fatigued and I'm just

I'm just I don't know I'll ever and I just just pre a guit and I've made four accords but the

kind of the accords classic the door dominoer facel I think and I'm forced to to create a tune

that would just have just to have these accord that, and me saying, fuck the theory, I was just

to try with my heart, and it's done this song that. And after that, I've started to write in me

footing of the complexity, or not by me futeant, it's not true, but in, in making,

a front- plan, the proposal, the sincerity more than the complexity. Is it

is there is a place in some way? I can sure you probably to find

that and it I've got invited. Okay, but it exists not on the platforms, it has not been... No, but it's

sure I get that somewhere in my ordy. I think it's on YouTube. Yeah, there's on YouTube. There's a

version live on YouTube. Is that still, to make on a spectacle Matt Monde? Yes, I

am really that. At each night, I'm like, I feel a emotion, the people chant,

and the same past I was at Waterloo, and, before me, there were three ados of, like, 17-year-old, who'd be in their bra.

There were a young girl of 10-year with her mother who chanted all the words. There were these young people, some of the people aged. I've said, like, to bepresental. There were these people aged. There were representatives of the third-age. There were also

these guys of, like, 38-year-old, 40-year, 45-year, that's, at each night, it's magic. I don't I don't I'm always a face in

head, we have all we've seen a person with who we'd have to be able that's

yeah, but I'm yeah, no. Yeah, I'm not, I'm never tannet.

I'm never tannet, I think. There's a song on your last album where you

talk of of maternity or of non-maternity. You've written a new project that's been

that has been very circuled, that has manifestement touched a lot of many of women,

a lot of people? At what you're to arrive to the question, why is

that it's that it makes, that it makes it that we're that a woman

is not an child, while we live in a society where we

valorise the idea that that all people that's the importance, it's to

be able to matter, for a poor that it doesn't not to make

to not I see not. I have plenty of souvenir to,

to encounter these women of a certain age that had not had not used

by choice or or by incapacities or a cause of the

circumstances and and even I'm like I'm when I

when I listen when I when I listen to their experience

of the non-maternity I should to desel or to

desel a of regret, of amortem or of tristess. Yeah, a phrase that's really

really bad in your text you know, you're the right to find that the women nulipar

and age, have to have a little crote eternal on the care. You know, it's that.

I'm that I'm that's a time that there's a child, I'm not I've not

made, I'm not made, I've not done a panel there and I'm done that you have been that I'm

never I've always there's there's there's there's just me, but I don't know if it's because we have the

image, like the archetype in our head, of a woman of 50, 60-year-old who's-old, and who is don't-trice, and there's a-mer, and it's gris,

like, but it's, you, it's, you, that, a archetype, a stereotype, misogine? I, do you live at 50,

60-year, that, where I I'm going to do, my life has any sense, I'm not an child. When I think to the question

to be newly apart, you know, I'm in line not quite that I'll have not, if we're in the same morning, we'll make

all the circumstances for having a man, a chum who and love, and let's go, we're doing, I think even

not that I'm fray. The sole reason that I'm pushry to be in to me imagine at 60

and gritty. It's probably not a good reason. It's zero a good reason? But it's sure that there are some of the women of 60-year-old

that tripe their restos with their vire of wine and their chum in this moment, chum-am-am-am-a-mmy or chum or blonde or whatever, you know, I'd have not even talked, but I'd like that

but it's sure that exists. It's not that all the women who have not are not used an end of course. I think not.

It would be it's interesting. That's chakune that's each other so ammer and e-grey. And I'm not sure that if we did it's

we're trying many more people who are very people who are in because they're having had for these

reasons that and that their children are they're not and I'm they're all to give to my parents

and at this time and I'm at this time and I'm all the same it's like it's like

it seems that it's like when we talk of the choice to have

the choice to have we're sanctified we don't know it's a lot of importance to just a decision.

And, obviously, it's a decision that's a major in a life. Change a change a

difference. Yes, but the life that we'll live, the bonner to which we can

get to be to be a one single thing, a one single decision that we're going to

25, 30, 40, absolutely. And, you know, for the real,

I see that it comeble the people to have the children. I see what's I'm trying to be

parents, but I can't tell them to feel like I'm imagine what, so I can't even imagine what, to feel like to feel like that for his own family or his children, but to be at

at your show, and it's like, oh, it's like, it's like, oh, it's not to cook, like, we'll pay a good buff, we'll be, like, a bottle of wine, and two cocktails, each, and, oh, we

go, we're going to where's it, you know, In fact, it's, it's, it's, it's a long time. I've been voyaged, but, you, we could go anywhere, where, we can part, if I'm not, we part tomorrow, you know, this liberty that, justly, the liberty

for me, to return to the school. At the same time, my sister, the fact, it's not a very good example, but there's a lot of richness to a life, without an infant also, in all the time, if I'm to choose,

I choose without I'm I'm trying that's the I've got that's a long time

that's not that's it's so you know, there's so, you know, there's plenty of things

that I'm in the parentality plenty, like, it's like, it's like, it's that.

How? How so? How do you your, uh, your support,

Stefani? Because, the album, not the last album, album precedent of the Sour Boulay

it's titulared the Mour of the story of the word of I'm

a lot of people who all people to talk about to talk about you know, you have said that the

people are not quite and on the album following of the song, the last

the last all the life and then there's there's there there

there's there are really tough these questions It's a gross question But it's because

If I had not Fear to make a Preet on Bush and to say a mard That's going to I'm going to There's a lot of

There's not so That's a badado Well, I'm I'm going to Thank you It's It's weird But I

I hope That my son Sour not Fanched Cont to me But I Think, the Album

Sappe at the New, and I'm I remember that in the promo, we say, don't, well, we're that we want, that it's positive, that it's

filled, just, of faith in the future. We have to be luminous, it's more luminous because the people don't like that when you're not negative.

We have too, just, of backlash after, all the people have that you haven't said, if you're not

any incendiary than that? Not, but the montage has been made to the way to make more negative

than what we is really really, there's that, but it's been really difficult the post. All the people, I remember, the commenter, you're doing these comments, you're de plait, purulent,

you've just sort of the pu, and, you know, if you're not content, and, you know, it's really violent. We're... We're like, I'm like, in my life,

that I could not really say what I wanted. In fact, that I could not really say what I think in the media. And it's am made to several years

we did, we're doing There were these interviews, and it's there, we're not too to talk about that. And it's not about to say, it's a lot of, it's a lot of

it's a lot of and it. And with the recule, there's plenty of we've made, I think we nothing is interesting

because of that. And after that people were saying, we know, we're doing, they're doing it to say, I'm like,

well, what's you know what you want? We value we're often a authenticity, but there's often a

price to pay for the authenticity. But it's also for the public, it's often, it's, it's, It's, it's

an authenticity which is jovial. That's reconfortant. Yes. It's, it's resilient, which is droll, which is, I don't,

my espoor. I have these espoor egoist, but if I'm out of my own brie, I, I hate

that we're sort of the fascism. We go, the more F. In Quebec, I don't know if I'm going to let's qualify our government. I'm not to tell you to qualify our government, but, effectively, what's what we're going to be in.

Very inquieter. Yeah. And not just those United. No, not just to the United. But it's true that it is plus, but... No, but it's because I'm trying to us to preserve a little bit of marge of hope, just to say that there's still.

Yeah, it's all the time to to take the good decisions. Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, the cliché, all the people

say, but when I look my children, our children, the ados, they're so much

they're so much, yes, I'm telling of that, and I'm and I'm hope

that it represents, that does a pooh significant for the future, but I'm

afraid, in fact. I think that in my soulagement to not be a

mother, egoistement, there's that in there's a time. If I had some moment, I'd be more stressed, I'd feelable,

but at the same time, it does hope to have the children, I know, I'd say I'm differently, I would be

not necessarily culpable if I had these children, but when I project, it, it's

I'm feeling too anguarsed. Yeah, and the ados we don't hope,

but after, we're in the journal that the And the young young men, the adolescents

to turn to more, so radicalists to turn to turn to make of these influencers

masculinists. And then we've seen, we've vogue of denunciations, there's a 50,

when it's something, we're thinking that collectively it would have been to be some of

conscience. It's sort of made. But, no? Well, that's

part of the affairs to which I thought when I I was doing my insomnia, and I said, how I'd say, how I'd talk to this, if he me pose the question?

We're not obliged to have No, but, let'sone, I'm saying, I regard all the persons supposedly cancelled, have, all, at this day, a year, a major career,

than these denunciatrice or that the people who have, The canceling, it's not the person that we think that's going to say. Let's say

like that. The price had been more to pay for the persons who are denounced. It's perhaps just

me in my coin who can't these stories. But my perception, for cotoying

of the people who have been directly touched by that, I think the

the cancel culture is not the person that we don't know. But, We don't know that we're talking about that.

We're talking of the radicalization of... Yes, but also the reprise of... You know, the religion, the Catholic, and the... It's so, it's married, and I don't know, there's a lot, I'm... In the same time, I don't say that the religion... Yeah, the religion... I would say, like, Claude Leger, I like, I'm not the religion.

The people can't believe what they want, but the religion, I've got a little of misery. It's a bit of misery. I did you cite my interviews. Bravo. I'm too fat, I think. No, no, no, no. I want to go

to go to go ahead and you're talking to... Oh, that I'm going to do. You'll see, like. I'm going to go. I'm saying, wow, why I did that? Why I did that? Why I did that? But, yeah.

I'm also, I do you know, I'm not the person who's the most in these interviews, but I'm going to say, oh, it's a little nazeer, this question. Oh, yeah? All right. All right, all the time.

Oh. My interview with Roy du Pui, it's been days and some days of your generation, yeah. I try to me to me to be able to say what you're

in this interview that. But it's just you have to embrace the fact that a conversation is not perfect.

Yeah. And then I post some questions and you have plenty of things to say to tell to tell you

but it's more but there there's perhaps there are perhaps some of you want to be more to say and etc.

Yeah, we have accepted that the idea that we're of a conversation, it will correspondra perhaps not the result.

And, and at my sense, it's perhaps that's interesting, in fact, is that you

will not pose the questions necessarily consensual, that makes always in the same sense, complaisance,

I don't know. I'm trying to not to make the people. No, it's not, it's not a

confrontation, but to make the people to get to be controlled the narrative he'd could be

very interesting. But is what you think, for Revenue, we'll conclude on the vac of denunciation, is it, is what you think that the milieu, not sure that the milieu of the music, has made the, has made, do you have made the chumain in the course of the five

years' years? Yes. I'm not sure of my response. But I think that if I listen my heart, yes, I'm always going to, I'm a negative, like I said

I'd always think of yes, but, yeah, but, you know, to have the the fares, and the imperfections in all that. Yes, and we're always at the counter-examble. Exactly. He me comes the contra-examble

in my head in this moment when I respond, yes, but I think if I'm, I'm elave, if I'm in the role the coroner. That you embrasserer more.

Yeah, I think, let's say, a yes, a way, leagy, very leagy. Very leagy.

If the essential, is to be able what's what it's going to my life? It seems that this question that

is a the definition too strict of what is that's the that's the critic that I would say,

that's, that's, by the about to the love amoreo? Yeah, definitively.

It's of that you talk in this song that. Yeah. But, so that that can

want to say, but the other thing, the love of the love of its proche,

the love of so I'm I'm 100 for the discourse and I adair, I mean,

the amitiers that are the relations that can be also significative if they're more than the relationship,

but in the other bar, we'd say that sometimes, the current celibate at all pretty, and we don't

have not any of person, I think it can really, if it's too applied to the letter,

if it's going to be too to the other bar, this discourse that, I think,

I think, I think it can incite the people to be, to be intransigent, to be rigid, to not want to s'oeuvre, to be able to let's the chance

to the other. Me, even, in being a person who date, and who tries to try to find the amor anywhere, and that's all the time,

and who's playing all the time, with the recule, I'm going to be to be to be able to be able to that, it's not, like that, it's not, and I want to be that. And I think

that the amor, sometimes it can't do time, and it's a compromise, it demands of the and that the goal is not to get to meet

someone who would be to give a mirror perfect of what you would have to that's tolerated

that's tolerated that the other person will be deceiver sometimes and will not to be exactly like you

would be I think the discourse of we can be able to be able to be very very good,

it can be a certain rigidity a lot, a lot and I'm been in this posture

that and I'm really assupley thenernerment, and I'm really content to explore that in this moment, in fact. Tolerate the altarity, tolerated the imperfections,

discover someone for who is, not to try to it, but also to live the life in this sent in, support, and accompanied, let's I think, we'll live in the amitia, we can live with the family, we can live

to live in many ways. I'm in this moment, at through the couple, not that because I'm really people of

my people very, very, very important, that I think we're like a team and that's

suede and that it's really, but I'm but I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,

my, my, my, I'm content to live with an amourue and to

learn to talk to someone, to get to someone to be able, coexisted with someone.

I think more, by how I'm made, and how I've always thought that I'd finish all, and that I'd

made to be alone, and that I'd discover never what's what the love inconditional, and we'd

say there's something in my that's that I'm really, I'm really zero responded to my question.

I don't know even more my question. If the the essential is to be what's what it's

what I mean, what's I mean, I'm sure that you know that's because, effectively,

we've got to be able so it's what's what is a be a good thing. But there's something of precious also in the encounter of the other. And I like

that you employ the word altairity, because, effectively, that with what we come in love, she's someone, if it's their alterity, it's what it's different. Hey, it's so well, she's like that, she says it. But not all the people. There are people who really a mirror.

Yeah? Yeah. It's bizarre, that. I'm going, I'm who I'm going, we're trying, we like, we're the same things, we're think the same affair, and it's sure that it's a certain number of value. Common, yeah, sure.

but... But if it's what the person has different who makes be in love with her, you have to be

indulgent face to these differences who can... Accrochet, sometimes. Yeah, to be to

be in the air a little. Yeah. I think that you're with someone, you're at a coat of

someone or some who are prepared or ready to advance in the same and to make

the compromise when you you're pre in fair all is possible for for the real. You know, yes,

the desire common to be able to find out of to find out of the other I think despise

even to have some value for me. There's a base that's important can't. I'm not sure

I could start with someone who tripe on Donald Trump, let's my job

against the abortment, he vote at right. No, no, no. He doesn't. He doesn't know the music Quebecoise.

Oh, but that, you see? My son, my chame, I don't like that is not the music Quebecoise. It's true.

But it's not that I'm not when I like to listen to this tune that he ain't that, he's not, I'm sorry,

but it's not his affair in a tautut. Okay, I'm thinking that I'm sorry he had to the other

part. But now, now, now, I'm not to make the word, I'm not you're not that you're

never No, it's true. You're right. You're full of the reason. Yeah, yeah.

Is that your part, you've got to talk about your career of your career of the chorist composers,

interprets, but is you're afraid also that's that's done the more good song? Because your

emu, it's had been a tristess. Yeah, and my child had posed the question last time,

I said that I'm like nothing to say in some moment, I'm like more to be exposed,

and he said, You think that's because you're in trying to get a and get in and you?

Presbycast Don't John? Yeah, kind of. I think definitively, it's not that's not

that, there are all the reasons that I've already evoke, but there

a grand part of me in this moment that is like apazed at some

part. I think that the joy can be a lot to be a

richess in creation. I'm not still still on this house that honestly in my life, but I'm sure

that there's there's a abundance in but it's not the time the inspiration that I think it's not

not that's not the inspiration that it's I think it's I think I don't need to be able

by the people who I know from because I'm really amy for who I'm profoundly. Stephanie,

as you know because you an auditrice manifestement of this balado This balado Sintitual Just Between

You and Mo. Is there a last thing you would be before that we're

that would be able to and that could, for example, concern the most recent album of Taylor Swift.

Is that a grand Mama, Stefani, you offer their critique. How many

the time that we're, no, but my gross Aveur that I have to do

have to do, Dominic, is that I'm not the new album of Taylor Swift.

What? Yeah. How? that? I'm a good voice. I'm

let's contaminated by plenty of affairs. I think there's a campaign of in this

moment on the social that's that I have, I'm, that's

that you have, you know, that you're like a little adair to you? Yeah,

and really, like, I, I'm really not, you know, I'm the impression

that you're like an effort coordone for the air, in line, and that

I'm under that that I 100, But, malgray there's things pop and we're

going to be to be in certain things. But it's quite a bit that I feel more emotionally

invested in some work. I've been more more than poets, you know, I can even

not say the title. The department Let's see. The torture I'll say,

I'll say, I'll go I'll go I'm going to a quote and I look at

the tortured poets department. Thank you. Very much too of songs, really not

totally good. I'm more to listen. There are there are I'm doing, I'm

more, I'm more appelled emotionally invers on their work. And when the aesthetic

is out of the visual the first the pariette. And then I'm sure I'm going to receive

these insults I'm really not the fact that she use the showgirl in plus

I'm just I'm just with Pamela Anderson, you've got you have you seen? Excellent film, sincerely,

magnificent film that exposes, I know, I know the universe of the show girls, but I had the impression that it's representative of what,

there's something it's a hustler to be a showgirl, it's a culture. Natalie Petrovsky at the radio has a showgirl is a coal

blue of showbiz and Taylor Swift is an antithes of a cold blue of showbiz. You see, it's, it's, it

resemble to what I when I've seen when I've seen the photo to be in the impression we're going to

it's a same thing, I think it she'd that's appropriated something, she'd in a posture

that probably would probably would have a lot of a community of people who's a lot, and

that's super important. I thought that was late also, very honestly, but... It's a

bit of disconcertance Yeah, I've tried that's not bad, and especially that's

not really question to that, finally, on the album. We're saying that she's always she's always like an idea

a vision behind her thing, and there's I thought that more, there was something that's a

more, in the case. And also, we'd say that I'm not at least with, but first I think that

being a millionaire, it's not supposed to it's a condition, a condition medical,

like, like, like, like, if you're what you're, why you're, you know,

you're, at least she's consulted, and I've seen she said in an interview, that she had been to have been in an interview, she was like, well, yeah, probably everyone would have everyone would have been to consultate,

but you're particularly, we've got to be there. We're going to get these albums, but, you know, at a minute, in any of course. We're all, we have all right, it's all right,

it's all right, it's a bit of, yeah, it's just, I've seen, I've seen, I've seen, you, it's a album

that's a tone deaf, and I'm, you're not, Dephased by compared to the air of time. Exactly. We'd

would say that it's totally hot in the tair that I feel anything that I'm

not that it's not on the same trodor than I don't she doesn't in the

air than I probably but it's that, I'm going to be I'm connected and I'm

I've heard the album but I've heard of Ophelia and I'm like super good tune

I found super good in the tune Is I going to re-ecute? No. It's not done a fricence,

it's not made frisone, Taylor me made a bit of a bit of course. I'm saying, ah, has said

the things to which I think in my head. There, zero. Have you another thing

to say? Is it that it had to be to imagine this night during your insomnia?

It was more difficult to find to find these more little chemines, more,

that I'm more, that I more traversed even than what I thought than I adored. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. You do. You do you have the same rick

at the end of your song your song Cassie? Oh, yeah. It's right. Ayoy.

Hoof. I've felt to have the little gout on the front. Just between you and me it will be able to

it restra between and me