Keep it Positive, Sweetie - 2-Year Anniversary "Listeners' Choice" - A Cécred Place w/ Tina Knowles

Episode Date: June 22, 2025

Hey Sweeties!! This month we are looking back over the past two years of Keep It Positive, Sweetie, and this week we are taking it back to the Matriarch herself, the incomparable Miss Tina Knowles. I love me some Mama Tina! Her wisdom, grace, and unshakable strength are a true masterclass in purpose, motherhood, and legacy. If you missed it the first time, tap in now! This one is timeless, just like her.

Hey, sweeties, it's Chris Renee Hazlett, and this is a special re-air of a truly unforgettable episode of Keep It Positive, sweetie. Miss Tina Knowles graced us with her strength, grace and wisdom, and boy, did she leave a mark. From sharing the beauty of reinventing yourself at any stage in life, to her deep reflections on motherhood, legacy and love, this conversation resonated deeply with our Kips family. So many of you reached out saying how seen and inspired you felt by her vulnerability and her power.

If you're tuning in for the first time or revisiting this gym, prepare to be uplifted by a woman who continues to walk in purpose and style. The matriarch herself, Miss Tina Knowles. He sends us things in the time that we are ready for. them. So if something is not working out and you keep trying and it's not working out, then I'm not saying give up on it. Just keep it on the, maybe put it on the back burner for a minute. Focus on something else and it might be just you and yourself and what you're doing in your life. And are you really doing everything that you can to to manifest and to claim these things and and make them happen and then you say oh wow you know

what i'm not doing enough of is centering myself and focusing i'm just kind of so anxious for this to happen that I'm not doing my very best at it, and it ain't time. Yeah. Thank you BetterHelp for sponsoring this episode. This video was sponsored by BetterHelp. If you're like me, you've just been introduced to this whole thing called anxiety. For years, I didn't know what it was. I didn't think that I even experienced it. But in the past few years, I've definitely experienced anxiety on a whole new level.

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13 Loom, thank you so much for allowing us to use this amazing space. If you're in the Los Angeles area, make sure you guys pull up. Tina Knowles is a business woman, fashion designer, philanthropist known for establishing brands like House of Darien, Miss Tina by Tina Knowles, and recently launched the Sacred Haircare line

with her daughter, Beyonce. Hello and welcome to this episode of Keep It Positive, sweetie. I'm Crystal Renee Hazlett and today I have with me Miss Tina Knowles. Thank you so much. Oh, thank you for having me. I'm excited. I know you're busy and you got a lot going on so just your time means a lot. Well, thank you. Yeah. So I want to first talk about the day I lot going on. So just your time means a lot. Thank you. Yeah So I want to first talk about the day I first met you I don't know if you remember this but we were backstage for Tyler Perry's Madea farewell tour here in LA And I was in the back waiting on Tyler to come out and he comes out of the room. He goes come here I didn't know who was in the room. Really? I had no idea He's like come in here and I walked in and it's you, B, J.

And I'm like, hello. But you were so sweet from the moment I met you. Every time I see you, it's always warm greetings. And I appreciate that. But yeah, I always like to tell how I met the person. I remember. Yeah, it was so fun. Yeah, that was a memorable night to say the least.

I remember that night. The play was really good. So good, so good. I always try to pop in and see him when night to say the least. I remember that night. Yeah, the play was really good. So good, so good. I would try to pop in and see him when he's on the road. Yeah, just to check on him. Yeah, but that was a fun time. Everyone knows you. We were introduced to you in the 90s as Beyonce's mom, but I want to know who Tina knows is

and where Tina comes from. So tell us just a little bit about you. Well, you know, I grew up in Galveston, Texas in the South and grew up really poor. Found out later that my parents boarded for me to go to private school. Really? They were, she did all the sewing for the church and my dad showered the nuns

and you know, we were like indentured servants for them, which wasn't the best experience for me but it prepared me for a lot of my life. nuns and you know we were like indentured servants for them which wasn't the best experience for me but it prepared me for a lot of my life and I appreciate their sacrifice. Just grew up in Galveston this little island and so it's like a tourist town it was fun growing up there and you know I got into makeup early that was my first job I I was a makeup artist, real job. And just wanted to do something in beauty. Couldn't wait to get out of that little one horse town

because it's about that big. And my journey has just been, I call it God giving me the tools. He just filled my toolbox with all these experiences in my life that helped me to do everything I'm doing today. So I'm not, you know, I went to a short time to college, but you know, I've been able to have an education in life and in experiences and travel that I don't think I could have

paid for. So it's been really great. I mean, that makeup, modeling some, doing hair. I had a hair salon for, yeah. Headliners, what's it called? Headliners, yes, for many, many years. And it was just a great experience because I got to make women feel beautiful,

which is my favorite thing in the world. And it was a positive space for women to support each other and network before we knew what networking was. And I've watched your podcast and what I love about it is the positivity. Because there's so much negativity right now. I can hardly stand some of the podcasts

that people have just to sit down and tear people down and put out all this negative lying information, a lot of it about my family. So to see something like this positive, even the name of it just makes me happy. So it was important that I come and do this because we should support these positive things because they help us.

The other stuff hurts us. It does, oh.. The other stuff hurts us. It does. Yeah, the negativity hurts us and it doesn't do anything for anybody's self-esteem. It's crab in a barrel mentality and this is amazing what you're doing. Thank you so much, Encina.

I appreciate that. So you talk about the negative media. I, just because I'm really pretty new to success and I didn't understand what I was signing up for. Woo, yeah. When, and I'm telling you, it took me to probably this year and this is going on four years

that I've really been known, that I'm finally to the point where I can be like, you don't know me, I'm not gonna take it personal. But in the beginning, it really, really hurt. Oh, it hurts. Yes. And even, I mean, I've been in the business for, you know, dealing with this business for over 20 years, and some things just go too far. So I'm quiet and I'm cool about it, but you know, you mess with my grandbabies, you mess

with my children. You lie on my children, I will speak up because I think it's important to have that balance. And I think that something has to, you just can't keep taking it, you know? Even though you know that it's not true and all of that, but some things are below the belt and they are just unacceptable. Yeah, and I love that about you.

You will speak up. I'm like, tell them I'm gonna take it up for real because there's moments where I see you just kind of let things fly into the radar, but when you need to speak up, you do. And I appreciate that. Yeah, and take it for real, because there's moments where I see you just kind of let things fly into the radar, but when you need to speak up, you do. And I appreciate that. Yeah, no, that's real.

But yeah, I definitely, I can empathize with you on that because it does hurt. Yeah, especially if you're not used to it, and then some things are like, you don't even know me. Like, how do you think? And they just blatantly lie and get away with it, you know? That's not fair. Yeah, that is so true.

You talked about growing up and that your mom was a seamstress and they bartered for you to go to private school. Did you always look at my past and the journey that God has put us on and then how everything that we learned along the way ends up in your toolbox. Literally. So you made all the I mean, you used to make wardrobe for the Destiny's Child and I just thought that was so cool. I'm like, oh my goodness, her mom makes all

these outfits. That was so cool. But it's amazing now to hear in the backstory that your mother was also a seamstress. Yeah, she was a seamstress and also, you know, just even like I think about it in my modeling, you know, I was able to teach the girls how to walk and how to present themselves and how to look good in their clothes and that type of thing. From, you know, my hair salon, just doing interviews and that type of thing. Everything that I've ever learned

that I've done in my life, I've been able to apply it to them. So it's been great. You've done it very well. We see it. Yes. I'm really good friends with Angie, your niece, and I see and she plays in a salon on a show that we're on together, Sisters, and it's so cool how like we'll be studying together and she'll talk about what's going on in the scripts and she goes, this isn't right, we wouldn't do this, I was raising a salon. She was raising a salon, yeah, she was right there. Yes, I love that and I feel like salons are so much a part of our history as black women.

It's therapy, it's spiritual, it's camaraderie, it's just woman power. It is, yeah. Now fast forward, you have your own hair care products named Sacred with your daughter Beyonce. Actually, they're Beyonce's product. I just, yeah. It seems like it's your... I'm working with it. Yeah.

Well, of course, I've had a lot to do with it, but that's her product. Okay, awesome. So, what has that been like for the family? It seems like it's a collective project. It absolutely is from on down the testing on Blue and Rumi and you know everybody in the family and their input but mainly the experience from my salon because we got to get years and years of experience and I knew what was needed and what was missing in the market because you know when know, when I had my salon, I had to buy high-end white products and mix them with things that I knew that we needed

for our hair, like olive oil and egg whites and avocado. So, Angie can tell you, I was always mixing up these concoctions. And so this started a long time ago. But I feel like we needed one product that you could get the high tech science and all of those ingredients. And somebody that understood mixing those together

in one product, because you can't have one without the other. And education, just a lot of education about how to use the products and how to balance protein with moisture and things that people we take for granted but people don't know. I'm gonna have to come by and you can do my hair. I got a lot of hair now. I know you do. I'm gonna send this picture. Take a picture and send it to my auntie. It's a lot of hair so I feel sorry for anybody who has to wash it

and comb through it. No, it'll be a pleasure. Thank you so much. A lot of people think things like that happen overnight. How many years did it take for you guys to really get it down to a science? You know, it's funny, because I say that it took probably 20 years.

But we've been working on a product for six years. And we worked on it for a while. And then we stopped. Because it's a very time consuming thing when you are, you know, anybody can go and get some products and say, this is what I want the product to do, this is what I, but not with this bunch. Because we grew up, you know, they grew up in a hair salon

and I've studied all the science. I knew what I was looking for. So where, as people send products back maybe three or four times, it's very expensive to produce and for you to go through all the scientific tests and all that, and then they give the product to us, and B would say, and I'll have enough slip in it.

It's not moisturizing enough. And I would be like, how much protein is it? Is it an easily absorbable protein? Will it be easy for people to use? Like, it's so many things that go into hair products. They are not like makeup. Right, where you just slap a name on it. Yeah, you put your name on it,

and it's kind of the same ingredients. You have to come up with your ingredients to make this, and it's a science. So, and our testing has been so extensive like we test and test and test and then we bring it into our test salon and we tested on our people and ourselves. So it's been a long process but I couldn't be more proud of it and we have so many products coming out because every time there's a need, we think, oh my God, you know, we get feedback every day. I did a Zoom this morning with about 700 stylists and the questions that they come up with

and the things that they wanna know, I'm like, oh wow, we need to work on a product for that because there are so many needs. Yeah, it is. And there's so many different hair types. I know for me, my bathroom, my needs. Yeah, it is. Yeah. And there's so many different hair types. Yes. I know for me, my bathroom, my shower is full of different products.

Products. It's not just one thing works on my hair. Right. Mix this with this. Yeah. And that's okay. Yeah. As long as the products intertwine.

Exactly. And they work with each other. Yeah. If you can find a line that you like a lot of things in it, especially the foundation. That's why it's called the foundation collection, because the foundation of healthy hair is you balancing protein with moisturizers and oils and we need butters in our hair.

It's complicated. And textured hair, but the great thing is we knew that if we conquered textured hair, that it will work on anybody. Right. Because we're the hardest. We are. You know our different hair textures, so many different hair textures.

It is. And our hair is more thirsty, it's more dry, it's more fragile. Yeah, when I put my hair, it holds on to water. Water? Like it takes forever for it to dry if I just. That's my philosophy. Yes, yeah. So I always like when they're like, oh your hair's still wet, I'm like, I know, and it's like 24 hours later. Well you got a lot of hair. Right. That I always like when I like, oh, your hair is still with him. I know. And it's like 24 hours later.

Well, you got a lot of hair. Right. That's that's half the part. Yeah. Yeah, that's so true. We talk about the journey that it took to get to where you are now with the hairline. But also I feel like that applies with life. Yes. And there's different parts of life. Has there been any moment where you're like, God, I'm ready for this to come to fruition, but it's taken too long.

And what did you do in those moments where you felt like, all right, Lord, what's happening here? I don't have me, I have to honestly say I have not had a lot of moments like that. And I think it's because I always have five projects I'm doing. I know that's right. You know, it's always so many things going on that he sends us things in the time that we are ready for him. So if something is not working out

and you keep trying and it's not working out, then I'm not saying give up on it. Just keep it on, maybe put it on the back burner for a minute, focus on something else and it might be just you and yourself and what you're doing in your life. And are you really doing everything that you can to manifest and to claim these things

and make them happen. And then you say, oh wow, you know what I'm not doing enough of is centering myself and focusing. I'm just kinda so anxious for this to happen that I'm not doing my very best at it and it ain't time. Yeah, that's real, yeah. But it's always so many things going on in my life that sometimes things have taken a long time.

It took a long time and this isn't even me, but with Destiny's Child is a perfect example of it. Took from the time they were 10 till they were 15, like five years. And that's a lifetime when you're that young. It is. And they lost on star search and they got dropped by the first person, then they got dropped by the second person.

But anything worth having is worth sticking in there. But sometimes you gotta go back and regroup and make yourself better. Yes. And it's not the world, it's you. Yeah, that's so true. Speaking of that, Destiny's Childhood is taking five years to get to a stable position.

What are some things or principles that you instilled in the girls at a very young age to say, hey, I know this is tough, and you're probably like, mom, why isn't this happening right now? Because I know we look at your daughters and we're like, whoa. You know what I'm saying?

They've made it. But what are some of those things that you instilled in them as they were growing up? To just, you know, what my parents taught me that's so valuable is that nothing comes easy good. I mean, nothing good comes easy. Like, you got to work for it. And if you want to be successful, it's no shortcuts.

You gotta put in the work. You gotta put in the training. And for them, losing, and they were very talented, but they just weren't ready. And so it came when it was time to come. They were too young. And so I would always say to them, just go back and work harder.

Just regroup and take a look. And in the meantime, have fun and balance it. Don't make that, people get so caught up in what they wanna accomplish that they don't have any fun, they don't have any family time. That's not good either. You gotta balance it. You gotta balance it with whatever your spirituality

and your higher power is. Make them a part of it. It's so important. It is, it is. Make them a part of it. It's so important. It is, it is. Speaking of spirituality, you have done a lot of partnership with your pastor back in Texas. What is, has your faith in spirituality,

how has it guided you through your life? Oh my God. I just know that nothing good, that everything good that happens in my life, that I believe that it is sent by God. You know, and it's like, my parents were, you know, they were devout Catholics, and one thing they taught me is that

that's a part of the whole picture. If you don't have God or spirituality, or like I said, a higher power, I'm not saying one particular religion, I'm not talking about religion, I'm talking about somebody that when everything is going wrong, you can lean on, other than your mama and your sister and your brother,

because we're only here for a time, but God is always with you. And I was taught that from an early age and I think that that has guided me through that and also to whom much is given, much is required. So I was taught very early to tithe, to give back, to balance it, and there are times in my life when I got away from that, you know, and I'm like all about myself, especially in my 20s, I'm like, you know, I'm popping, I'm going out, I'm partying, I'm having fun.

And it was not about giving back. And those times in my life were challenging and they were harder. You can see it. Yeah, and you can see it. And I can see when I get away from centering myself, away from my prayers, away from my giving back and taking the time to do that,

that things don't go so well. So, you know, I believe that to be true for myself. And so I just try to keep it where I give back constantly. I try to be positive. I try to be, you know, a good person, and it's just worked for me because things just come to me all the time. I've never been broke, I've never been, had really, really bad financial times,

and I believe that that's because I tithed. You know? Yes, yes. No, I'm telling you, there was a moment in my life where it was really, really hard for me and to the point where tithing was a struggle because I'm like, Lord, I ain't really got it to give. Right. You know?

And I remember, I think I was making $600 every two weeks. Wow. And this is when I first moved to Atlanta to pursue music and acting. So this was 2009, not that long ago. Yeah. And I remember sitting in church and I was like, Harlow, I'm gonna give you this $60.

You know what I'm saying? But I know I can do a lot more with this. And the very next day, a friend of mine was like, hey, I got $600 for you. I said, my Lord, I said, okay, I get it. A hundred fold. Literally, yeah. Isn't it crazy how he will,

as soon as you put your faith in him and give him what, cause all of it's his anyway. That's right. But when you give him what he asks for, he's going to continue to provide. And those moments where I was not giving, I even hired my manager, Janora, because I saw that she obeyed a post about tithing. And I was like, if she tithes, I was like, no, I can trust her to manage me and my money and all those things.

Because if you don't think that's important, then I really can't trust you. You don't know what to tell. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know it's interesting, because when I was little, we were very poor.

And I was told all the time, we can't afford it. Like, every time my mom, I would say, we can't afford it. Because that was always, we can't afford, you know, your clarinet for you to be in a band. We can't afford you to go to dance class. We can't afford all the know, your clarinet for you to be in a band. We can't afford you to go to dance class. We can't afford all the things that I want to do. And you know, but my mom would put that money in church every Sunday. And I'd be like, you know what I could do with that money?

And you're always saying we don't have money, but you always put money in church. We're poor. We can't afford to put the money in church. And she said, Teeny. Yeah, they call me Teeny And she said, Teeney. That is, yeah, they call me Teeney. She said, that is how we make it. That's how we eat.

That's how we live. And you gotta understand that, you know, that's how we're making it. And you know, when I think back on it, my dad was sort of disabled because he had no hearing in his left ear and he couldn't see in his right eye because he was in a mind exposure. So he could only work certain jobs at his job.

And there were times when we got $45 a week, which is what they called the pennies, but it's unemployment. Because if it wasn't work, you could apply for unemployment. $45 a week with a family of seven people. And we made it all the time because, and so I didn't understand it when I was young, I was still pissed. But when I got older,

I understood that that's what she was talking about. Because how did we manage to live and be very fashionable even though we didn't have any money we were sharp all the time we never went hungry and I really didn't even realize how poor I was till I got older yeah yeah so that's how we made it. Wow I love that that is beautiful that's beautiful there's other things that you've done besides having your own hair salon, but you were also big in fashion. You had House of Darion and Miss Tina by Tina Knowles.

How exciting was that to take everything that you learned from your mom and create your own lines? Oh, it was so much fun. You know, House of Darion was amazing because it was really kind of was born because of the fans asking, where can we get this? And we want the clothes. And it was such a fun time for us. And you know, it's defunct now because we, you know,

we decided to give it up because we just couldn't, didn't have the right partners. And they just had a whole different direction for the brand than we did. Wow. They wanted it to be very junior. They wanted it to be fast fashion, like fast fashion with logos that big everywhere.

And you know, it just got to the point where we didn't enjoy it. Right. But it was a very successful brand. I definitely have to say. You had some? What? Yes, I did.

And I think my booty looked good. That's right, because the jeans were darted. They were the first darted jeans. And I took all those tricks of tailoring for my mom and put them in the jeans. And I don't think it's any, they were some of the top jeans to fit our behinds. They were. Yeah, they were made for us.

And they give you a nice shape, you know? But yeah, it's passion. I've always had a passion for fashion. My nephew Johnny and I used to design our own clothes. We always voted the best dress. We were just always sharp. That's the funny thing, being that poor made me more creative. Yes, yes.

So my mom's excuse was always, well you can't have the whatever the jeans were, jeans weren't the big thing, but like certain styles that I wanted and she was like yours is much better because it's more creative. And I'll be like that's she just telling me that because she don't want to spend money to buy it for me. But it turned out to challenge us to really not just go to the stores and buy stuff, but to look in Vogue magazine, you know, the top magazine and try to copy those things. And so it gave me a really great knowledge of fashion and I appreciate that. Yeah, now do you have any plans to create another line?

No. You don't wait until she's like, no. Fashion is, you know, it's really, really hard. I love these products because the products are transforming people's hair. Like, I just can't wait till you use it. You'll see the difference. No, I already have.

I've seen the difference, even with the deep conditioner and with my protective styles. The rice water kind, what is the correct word? It's rice water. It's rice and rose. Rice and rose, yes. Yeah, rice and rose water. It makes my hair feel so good.

No, I love it, yeah. Well, good. I mean, but the products are, I'm very, very and rose water. It makes my hair feel so good. Yes. No, I love it. Yeah. Well, good. I mean, but the products are, I'm very, very excited about that. And I just want to expand it to styling products and all of that. So that's what I'm most passionate about right now in terms of products or projects, I'd say. I love it. Your grandson, Jules, we actually share the same birthday. Really?

Oh my God. That's how Angie remembers my birthday. Oh wow. Because she's like, oh you and Jules have the same birthday. Yeah. And you got a very sweet demeanor like him too. He's a sweetheart.

Yeah, I met him at one of the shows Angie introduced us. Oh okay. And she's like, this is your birthday, Twenton. But yeah, I see that he is now modeling. How does that make you feel to see your grandson just like, he's in Paris, like doing the big shows. Yeah, he just got back. He, I mean, he loves it.

And I'm just so happy that he has found his thing. You know, he loves fashion. And he's working on a fashion line that was really good. It's a streetwear line. And he's been working on it for the last couple years and so I think that's a natural progression for him to go into modeling. Absolutely yeah he's killing it. When I saw the Fashion Week last fall I was like okay I see what we're doing here. Yeah that's amazing and then Blue Ivy took the world by storm doing

during the Renaissance tour. I think I went to like five shows. Oh wow. Yeah, me and Ty we went to the first two in Sweden, in Stockholm, and then I went again in Amsterdam. Wow. And then I went to like three shows in Atlanta. See, he was keeping you from us,

because he came to the very first show. Yes. And I got to hang out with him. You were there? Yeah, I was in the prayer circle for the very first show. And I got to hang out with him. You were there? Yeah, I was in the prayer circle for the very first show. Like I literally landed, cause I wasn't coming cause I had to do, oh, I was prepping to film.

We were going back for sisters. And cause that was in May, like in, yeah, during the summer, going into summer. And he's like, Christian, I come out. I was like, nah, so they, the crew flew over there. And he was like, I think Eve or somebody, he's like, see, Eve just went to my bathroom. He's like, if you were here, this would have never happened. Because they were on his jet.

And I was like, OK. And then he was like, can you please come? And I was like, all right. So his Jodie booked me a flight to go. That's so great. And I landed and they were, Malcolm, head of security was like, they're about to pray if you want to make the circle. So I was like running into their room. You ran into the prayer circle.

I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah. That was that first show. I was still in that wardrobe room till the last second trying to get those clothes out. So you still do that? Like you still have the red? Yeah, what I do is on the last tour,

Beyonce said, well, I think that, you know, she had a short period of time and she said, I want two stylists. And I said, you know, we're going to get four because and she said, I want two stylists and I said, you know, we're going to get four because we have such, so I actually found the stylists, put them together, managed to gave them the budgets and you know, oversaw the whole project.

So yeah. I love that you still. But I still got to get in there and sew something sometimes and make it fit or hem some pants or do whatever. Yeah. I love it it though it's fun. I love that. Now I remember you made a comment about I think it was you that you were kind of hesitant when they say that Blue was gonna perform. Yeah. Well I wasn't hesitant. Beyonce was hesitant. Yeah and she she was like Blue

because she just didn't want the pressure on her because she knows what that brings. Yes. You know and people are are, they can be very cruel. And she was like, I just don't want her to get caught up in this, I want her to decide on her own what she wants to do. And so, Blue kept asking, because everyday Blue rehearsed with all the dancers. And I was like, she can do it, she is killing it. And then Beyonce said, OK, I'm going to let you do one city,

I'll let you do Paris. Yeah, wow. And once she did it, that was supposed to be a one-time thing. You know, people were so evil and mean and saying all these comments. And so one of her friends told her about the comments. And it was such a life lesson for her because she was very upset about it and her mom said, well, you know, you can let them win and you can just give up and say, you'll never do it again, but if I were you, I would go work harder and I would get out there

and kill it and shut them up. And she did that, just that. You could see the, her like, every single show. I was like, oh yeah. She worked hard though, because I mean, Blue at the time was 11 and you know, most of the dancers are at least 20, 25, some of them 30. They've been doing this forever and they were amazed that she could keep up and learn the choreography and have her own little swag and her own style. She reminded me of Solange because Solange did the same thing.

She started, yeah, she started dancing with Destiny's Child when she was 13 because Kelly broke her toe. Wow. And when Kelly broke her toe, we were like, we can't stop the show. So I studded Kelly's whole boot. I know that's right.

And she sat on the studded stow stool and song and Solange dance for her in the same costume. So yeah when she was 13 and I was so worried about her because I was like she's only 13 and everybody's grown and she got out there and kept up with them. Sometimes she'll cry you know she would be in high altitudes and say I can't do this. I'm like yes you can. You signed up. You got to finish it. I didn't think about that.

Yeah, because that is my philosophy. You don't have to do anything. But if you sign up for it, you got to finish. You cannot quit. My dad was always like that about food. He was like, get all you want, but eat all you get. Eat all you get. That's right.

If you're going to sign up for it, you have to go 100%. You got to keep it going. Wow. And speaking of Solange, Solange has found her own voice. Yes. I love that because I've seen her evolution as well and how does how proud does it make you to see like both your daughters thriving in their own space? I've always been proud of them not only for you know show business but just as being good human beings and that's most important but But their success has been great to watch too. Cause they work so hard.

My girls work hard. They do, yeah. Nothing is given to them, so I'm proud of that. That's amazing. Do you ever like wake up some mornings and be like, wow, my kids are amazing. You know, like, cause you're, Beyonce is like one of the biggest superstars in the world. Like, do you ever. You know, like, because you're,

Beyonce is like one of the biggest superstars in the world. Like, do you ever wake up and be like, that came out of me? Not really, but people say it to me all the time. And I have thought about it, but you know, again, I mean, I just feel so blessed to have the kids that I have, and Kelly too, because Kelly, I love Kelly.

Yeah, Kelly, that's my baby. She's everything. Because you know, Kelly is the same. I mean, just the best work ethic and the best person still remains the sweetest, kindest, generous person. And that's not easy. You know, it's not easy in this business. That's why, again, I was so impressed

that you wanna do something called positive. You know, because this business can chew you up and spit you out. It can, it can change you. It can make you really hard. Yes, it really can. I was talking to a friend of mine yesterday just about how certain circumstances

can really cause you to be guarded. It almost make you cold and hard and mean. To protect yourself because you have to protect yourself because you know it's a lot of beasts out there you know in this business. I was really scared you know when the girls got in and I became so involved in their careers and people think it's because I'm a stage mother but it was because I wanted to earn my keep and I wanted to watch them and protect them because you know it's a scary thing you know to try to keep them grounded saying oh no no no they can pick up their bags their hands not broken look people in the eye when you walk into a hotel I don't

care if it's two o'clock in the morning that That is that person. Treat them kind. So I was around to do those things, you know, and I know that that's why they have been able to stay. I'm not the only reason, but a big part of it is just staying grounded. You know, somebody to pop you upside your head, not physically, but you know, let you know when you're getting a little diva-ed up going on. I love it. That's good. Everybody needs a mom and teen they like. Yeah, I have good people you know, and let you know when you getting a little diva to them going on. I love it. That's good. Everybody needs a mom and team they like. I have good people around me that say, alright, you know,

that's one thing Tyler did instilling in me because when I was styling him, I didn't understand because I once been an actor, I wanted to sing. And then he offers me this job and I'm like, this is not what I was trying to do, Lord. That is amazing. Yes, but then I prayed about it and I was like okay I'm gonna do this. Oh you're saying the styling he offered you the job to style but what a way into it. Exactly. But I didn't know that at first. I was just like I just said God just order my steps like if this is what you want me to do I'm gonna do it and you will make room for whatever I really want to do if that's in your will. And everything that

I learned in those five years of being that close to Tyler have helped me like literally step into the shoes I'm in today. That's right. Yeah. The same with Angie. I feel like all that time of being around show business and it was just tools that she can pull out because she knew how it went. You know. And so it was an easy transition. It was. It's very evident when she's on set. She knows even from hair. And the hair is so funny.

There's a whole thing that the hairstylist says, do not put no concealer on Angie's part. They came in there and tried to put it. She said, I don't want that. Oh, I know. Angie had me cracking up. But she knows because she's been around it for so long. Even on set, she knows the camera.

She knows how things are supposed to look. So it transitions onto set and you can tell that she's been around it all her life. Yeah, but she's still kind, still sweet and grounded. Like you say, she doesn't come in there acting like a diva. And I feel like every one that I've met, I haven't met Solange, but Bea, Kelly, and Angie, all who all came under you, you can see this. So that's also a reflection of you

and the things that you taught them because even when you're not around, they are as sweet as can be. Yeah, and treat everybody good. Yeah, so that's an O to you. Yeah, no, for sure. Miss Tina, thank you so much. Thank you, this was wonderful. Yes,, thank you so much. Thank you. This was wonderful.

Yes, I appreciate you making time and stopping by. We do something at the end of our show called Positive Outcomes. Okay. So if you can hang out with me just for a little bit longer. This is where our listeners write in and we just give them a little advice. Okay. So this one says, Hi Crystal, I'm a 52 year old mother of a 31 year old son. I have two grandchildren who are 6 and 11.

Our family loves hard and enjoys creating memories with one another. Long story short, I was a single mother raising my son while also taking care of my sickly parents for 19 years. In 2002, my father had a massive stroke and I had a stroke one month later. We recuperated together. In 2008, I lost my father, but my mom remained with me and we had some great years together. Nurturing her to health

emotionally and mentally because she loved and missed my dad. My mom battled with Parkinson's disease and did not walk for the last 11 years. God restored me by taking the best care of her until her death last November. Unfortunately, the last three years of my health declined because of the stress of working 40 to 50 hours a week coming home to care for my mom, which sometimes had me up all night and having

to repeat it the next day. Heart failure and my recovery plan has given me a fresh start, and I'm ready to start dating again. Do you have any dating tips that you can share? Well, girl, you asking the wrong person, because, geez, that part of my life is non-existent. Okay? I'm still trying to figure it out. Yeah, no, it is. It's really hard. I think, too, just knowing who the right people are and why they're in your life makes it harder for me.

Right. Yeah, and you're being discerning, which is very good. Yes, yes. But I feel like, I don't get your name, but if you are ready for a fresh start and you feel like you're ready to get back out there, I would, one, just pray that God opens your heart for the right person.

A lot of times when we haven't dated for a long time, we can be open to just anything. So I would say, like you said, discernment. Use your discernment and make sure the person is right for you, spend time with people, and date. I feel like a lot of times we meet one person and I'm like, oh, this my husband. Like, no, date people to really kind of filter out

the ones that are not for you and then decide, okay, I really like this person. What would you say, Miss Tina? I agree with everything you said, and I think one of the things is that, you know, we talked about manifestation, and I think you gotta manifest what you want, and be very, very picky about it,

and pray for what you want. But also, get out there, and open your heart. You know, my best friend decided she was gonna get her a man. She hadn't had a man in 15 years, because she got divorced. And she told me, within six months, I'm gonna have a man. I was like, yeah, right. She absolutely did,

because she started opening herself up to it. She started going to social events. You know, after church, she didn't rush out. She tried to meet people. So she was just determined. And within six months, she had a really good man. Probably four months, she had a really good man, probably four months she had a really good man. They've been married for now eight years. What? And yeah, so you can manifest, but you got to get out there because if you're just going to

work and coming home, probably ain't gonna happen. That's me, like is it gonna break into your house? Right. Oh is he gonna break into your house? I'm sorry. I know. But like that's the ongoing. No, I understand. Like you don't leave the house. Right. I'm like, you can't. You can't. Like, hey, are you here for me? Yeah. Well, you know, social events. Volunteer. Now that she's free. That's good. She can volunteer for some organizations and what better way to meet somebody who cares about people than in an organization that's charitable. That's so true. That's, I think that's where I'm going. I love that cares about people than in an organization that's charitable.

That's so true. I think that's where I'm going. I love that. Okay, I know that's right. We can go to some charity events together. That's right. I told, it was probably like a month ago, I was in Miami and I was talking to a friend of mine

and I was like, I am not spending another holiday by myself. By yourself. Manifest. And I was like, Lou, I said, God, you got it till July 4th. It rang me a bell. Ooh, that 4th. And that's in a week. Oh, so you're gonna meet somebody this week. You're gonna meet somebody this week. We're

praying for it, Miss Tina. Well, you're a beautiful, spiritual, talented young woman and it's coming. I feel it's coming. It is. Thank you so much. Two of the last things we do is we ask our guests what I'm going through and what I'm growing through. Can you share with us something that you may be going through just to inspire people in this season? I think what I'm going through is I've been going through losing my siblings. And that's a tough one because it started off with seven of us and now it's

only three. And I lost my brother a couple months ago. And all of a sudden it just hit me. I'm 70 years old. I can't believe it. Well thank you, but you know it comes that time. It's that time in my life and that I'm going through it and I'm growing through it because what I decided is that the two that I have left I'm going to make a lot of time for and I'm going to spend the time with them and not let so much time pass because I've been negligent with trying to see my family and now I'm sad because my brother's gone and I haven't spent as much time. But that's what I'm growing through. You know, it's just trying to pray and not be sad about it. It's tough.

It is. Angie has shared with me about your brother. And I was at her house one day, and I don't know what, maybe I was about to start repeating something, but she was showing me how it's on the video, like on the camera that she can see him. And I literally just started crying.

And she was like, I was like, I was like, I'm sorry, but like just no, even my dad is 70, 71 now. 71. 71. And knowing that life is fleeting. And like, I want to spend as much time with him as I can, you know? Yeah. And even that and what she's going through has shown me I've got to make the most of these years. You got to make the most of those years. And like her dad is, you know, I wanna say he's like 77, but he's blind. And he, you know, he has a lot of health issues.

So he was just at my house yesterday. That's how I'm growing is to have him over Sunday. I love it. We went to Jacuzzi and the pool and we had barbecue and, you know, and I'm gonna make the best of the time that I have left with him. I love that. I love it. That's amazing. Thank you so much. That's cute. This was wonderful. So we do a thing called keep it blank sweetie. Keep it blank? Where we keep

filling the blank. Right. So I'm going to say keep it pushing sweetie because no matter what life throws at you just got to keep going. How would you fill in the blank? I think I would say keep it moving which is kind of the same thing you know just keep moving no matter what's going on in your life it's just two shall pass. Yes I love that. Thank you so much. Thank you guys thank you so much for tuning into this episode of Keep It Positive, sweetie. If you want to write into our positive outcomes

listener letter, you can write it into keepitpositivesweetie at gmail.com and that's sweetie with an I-E. You can follow me on all platforms at lovecristorene and that's L-U-V. Miss Tina, tell the people where they can find you. On Instagram, at TinaNose. Yes, all right. Make sure you guys tap in with Miss Tina. Guys, thank you so much for tuning into this episode. In the meantime,

in between time, you know what to do. Keep it positive, sweetie. Music