Keep it Positive, Sweetie - 2-Year Anniversary "Listener's Choice": Help Is On The Way w/ Kountry Wayne

Episode Date: June 1, 2025

In celebration of Keep It Positive, Sweetie's 2-Year Anniversary, we are spinning the block on some of your favorite episodes. Starting off with none other than my dear friend, Kountry Wayne !! Wayne..., is known for his God-given ability to make us laugh, but more than a comedian, he is a man of God, a father, producer, and author (Help Is On The Way). Taking the industry storm, his story is one to surely inspire! If you're new here ... WELCOME!! This is a safe space, created to give people the freedom to heal, laugh, grow and LOVE together – all in the spirit of positivity!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, Kips Fam, it's Crystal Renee Haislett and this is a throwback you don't want to miss. Country Wayne joined me on Keep It Positive, sweetie, and gave us more than laughs. He gave us game. From his hustle and comedy to his faith in God and building an empire from the ground up, Wayne reminded us that consistency, vision, and staying true to yourself really pay off. This episode hit hard for dreamers and doers alike. Let's get into it. Hello and welcome to this episode of Keep It Positive, sweetie. Today I have Mr. Jesus is popping himself. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:01 Country Wayne. Hi. Dwayne Colley. What do you want to be addressed as? Dwayne? Well, people call me Wayne. Yeah. People just be like Wayne. Wayne. Okay, so Wayne. We got Wayne in the house. For sure. Better known as Country Wayne. You have a new book out called Help is on the Way. Yes. Which is what we titled this episode. Okay, that's what's up. I think about Help is on the Way. The first thing that comes to mind is that church song. Yeah. Yeah, I can't see. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Whitney Houston song going on. Preachers wife. Sure did. Yeah, I love her version.
Starting point is 00:01:33 So good. So good. Let me just tell people a little bit about you in case you don't know. Countryman, you are a comedian, a social media personality who was formerly a rapper. Yeah. I didn't even know that. Yeah. yeah, I just spit, but it ain't work. It didn't work? Nah. Okay, you're known for your comedy content, which is how I was introduced to you on Instagram, but you had a video that went viral in 2014 on Facebook.
Starting point is 00:01:58 Is that when everything just kind of went? Yeah, that's when it all, well, the video took off, but I didn't take off, but I took off with it. Like I kept working. You saw something. You know, I'm onto something here. Yeah, I already knew for sure. That's good. Okay.
Starting point is 00:02:12 You made funny short videos about life's inconvenient and unfortunate moments. And then since 2015, you've been doing standup comedy, which has really taken off. I've noticed that you're on the road all the time now. And you've appeared in films such as Brazilian Wavy, The Turnaround, Holiday, Heartbreak, and then most recently, the movie We Did Together,
Starting point is 00:02:30 Praise This. Praise This, yeah. Yes, yes. Some of the other movies you've named, I don't even know what they... You don't know them? Did you do these? One of them, I always, nah, I didn't really do that.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Which one? Let's run a, let's turn it, like, a little bit. Nah, nah, nah, it was something, you know how to be. You know how to do your first door angle not to people move. Yeah, I got you. I didn't do that. Don't watch. That's what we're doing this evening. We're going to find these movies. I'll let you know how it goes. Okay. So I remember I met you on the set of Praise This. You were the DJ. You had some really funny moments in that, super funny.
Starting point is 00:03:10 And you're very quiet on set. Yeah, I'm a quiet person for real. I'm a great listener. Mm, gotcha, okay. So you, I guess you are extroverted when it comes to work. Yeah. But like Wayne in real life is just kind of chill. I'm chill, I'm real chill because that's how I soak up
Starting point is 00:03:27 my content. Okay. I listen to people. So I'm a great listener and in order to be a great talker you got to be a great listener. So I just like to listen. I love that, that's good. So tell me a little bit about you.
Starting point is 00:03:38 I know you grew up in a small town in Georgia where at a young age you were exposed to criminal activity. Let's get into that. I want to know a little bit more. I think you want to know. I was a dope boy. So you know I was a dope boy at the time. My daddy was a dope boy. My uncle was a dope boy. So you know I hustled. As soon as I graduated high school in 2006, I started hustling immediately. I got caught. I got ten years probation and then I tried to go work at nine to five, but child support was kicking in.
Starting point is 00:04:06 So I had, it wasn't enough. Wait a minute, how many kids did you have by then? How old were you? I was 22 with seven kids. Wayne. What? That's why everybody be thinking now, they don't know, I've been on,
Starting point is 00:04:18 I ain't been really. You ain't doing nothing. I ain't been like that since 22, on 35 now. You ain't been like that? I ain't been like that since. I 22, I'm 35 now. You ain't been like that? I ain't been like that since. I was out there like, from the age of 14 to 22, those was my, you know, my real women days. So people be seeing me, I got a lot of kids,
Starting point is 00:04:36 they be thinking like, but no, I had seven of them by the time I was 22, since I was 22 to 35, I had three kids. Wow, okay, so you slowed down a lot. Slowed down a lot. Okay. So get back to when you are child support was kicking your ass. Child support was kicking man.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Me and my daddy boy, we were riding one day and I was like, bruh. I asked him, I said, man, let me get some money to go to work. I wouldn't pay better than I get paid. He said, son, I was just about to ask you. So I went to the bank, got me a loan because I always kept my credit straight and I knew how to go to maneuver at banks. I got borrowed some money when they bought me a four way. What's a four way?
Starting point is 00:05:11 A four and a half ounces of cocaine. I ain't looked back ever since. I was, they just kept it flipping. I know that's right. Wow, that's crazy. Yeah, nightclubs, all that. You would have got a loan to get some cocaine. Yeah. You were a businessman for real. Yeah. Yeah, nightclubs, all that. You would've got a loan to get some cocaine. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:26 You were a businessman for real. Yeah. Yeah, businessman. Like to think, I'm going to go get this loan, and get this, and then I'll pay the loan back. Pay the loan back. And still have extra money. Still have extra money, man.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Pay your child support. Child support. And I was chasing my dreams. So this time when I went back, I ain't go just to sell drugs. I was like, man, I'm going go be, I'm pushing my career. So I was using the money, some of the money to fund my rap career. Wow.
Starting point is 00:05:49 You know, and, but you know, so that's how I was. I was in small town, big fish. What part of Georgia was it? Mill and Georgia. How far is that from Atlanta? About three hours. Okay. But then I went to Statesboro, Georgia.
Starting point is 00:06:00 So that's about three, that's what, Georgia Southern University. Yes, I'm about to say, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yep. Did you go to, that's where you went to school? No I ain't going. I went to college I went to communal college just to get the student loan check. That my first time buying cocaine. Wade! Oh my gosh. I got through the loan and payout grant. Oh listen, yeah. I didn't get, I had my last year of college I got a student loan other
Starting point is 00:06:31 than that I was, I had scholarships. But you turned them down? You turned them down? My parents are really big on not coming out of college with debt. Yeah. So it's easy. They had to get that money. They had to get it get it. That student loan, it felt like free money. Until you gotta pay it back. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:06:51 And that free listed, I know a lot of people right now like, please forgive me for my student loans. Black people don't forget they sell. We ain't, I don't know why they worrying about that, man. Nobody ain't worried about that student loan bill like that. You gotta hit the lottery before we pay that back. Like, nobody ain't nobody even just pay no student loan back. Your career got to be set and then you gotta show me you said again, you gotta be
Starting point is 00:07:09 double crossed. Like are you sure I'm making this money? And then pay it back. Black people ain't worried about that. They're like't care about no credit report. Not for real, like. We care about that stuff when we get up. Like, on the way up, man, blah. Yeah, when you're down, you not thinking about that. I'm trying to survive right now. I don't care about no student loan, no hospital bills.
Starting point is 00:07:39 You should have got me when I was at the hospital. I'm not paying that stuff back. Yeah, we're getting a comedy show at the hospital. I'm not paying that stuff. Yeah, we're getting a comedy show with the show. I love it. This is so good. OK, so you ended up going to Statesboro. Then what was the shift where you started to see, OK, you selling drugs.
Starting point is 00:08:01 And what was the shift where you like, OK, let me, did your career start taking off? Were you like, I don't have dues anymore? Or was it like, come here? okay, let me did this your career started taking off We like I don't have dudes anymore. I sold drug 2014 when I went viral with a comedy I quit the rapping thing right then and I just started being consistent But I was still I had over a million followers people knowing me and I still hustling the whole time I had a nightclub and then I got my second nightclub so I could finally quit selling dope because I wasn't getting no I wouldn't get shows like that. I was getting some shows, but January of 2016,
Starting point is 00:08:29 I finally quit for real. And I started, I said, I'm gonna do this comedy for real. Then I started touring, but I was making like a third or fourth of a month, but I was like, man, this ain't nothing. Cause you know, the child support, you know, but then- This time you had how many kids? We was up to what?
Starting point is 00:08:44 I was at, I was at eight. Eight, okay. I was born, you know, but then. This time you had how many kids? We was up to what? I was at, I was at eight. Eight, okay. I was at eight. But what happened was I went to a show one day and I made 20, Company Club, and I made like 20 grand in one week. I was like, oh. In a week, you like, oh, I can do this in a week.
Starting point is 00:09:01 One weekend. I said, oh, I'm finna make a million dollars. I knew I was about to make it. So then I was like, wait, that was 2016 when I really felt that confidence really quick. Ever since then, I've just been grinding. I love that, I love that. So I know a lot of comedians find humor
Starting point is 00:09:18 in the inconvenience and their pain, as Kevin Hart says, laughing my pain. Is that what really started? And what was the thing like, I'm gonna talk about this. I wanna shed light on this and let's make fun of it. Oh, because I had information on the streets. So I knew nobody couldn't tell my story because most people don't make it out the way I did. And I was sober through the whole thing
Starting point is 00:09:44 because I never did drugs. So the whole time through my mama's life, my uncle's life, and my life, I was able to capture these moments and the picture, you know, and women, you know what I'm saying? So I learned women. My mama told me a lot about them.
Starting point is 00:09:57 So me learning women, I knew a lot of people weren't gonna be able to talk about it as detailed as me because I listened to women. So I was sober through it. Yeah, I'm sober so I know what. So you don't drink or nothing, don't do nothing?. So I was sober through it. So I'm sober. So I know what. So you don't drink or nothing, don't do nothing. No, I don't do nothing.
Starting point is 00:10:08 And you're vegan. Yeah. Wow. So you just, temple is just clean. Well, ain't nobody perfect but God. But I'm, I drink water. It's my business. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:23 The business that pays. I know that's right. So you have a new book called, Help is on the Way, Stand Up and Live Your Truth. And you talk about a couple of lessons in the book. And one of them was sometimes all you have is your pride. And that's often the only person who can help you push you forward is you.
Starting point is 00:10:40 You mentioned in the book about being introduced to God at the age of six. Just tell me about your experience and your faith, because you're very vocal on Instagram. One of, and I'll be honest with you, one of the things that really made me say, I want Wayne on this show, was when you talked about forgiving your parents.
Starting point is 00:10:56 That was, I talked about on my Get to Know Me episode, some things that I went through in my childhood, and just the pressures of that, and learning as adults to forgive our parents for whatever, you know what I'm saying, we have been holding or whatever. And when you said that, I was like, wow. It hit home, it was like the timing of that post
Starting point is 00:11:13 was like precise and I was like, wow. Even your perspective and to be mature enough to be like, hey dad, I forgive you. How was that journey even being introduced to God and how was he with you even when you were doing the things? I just, you know, when I was young, I heard my grandma and my mom would even talk about Jesus. So I was, I chose to believe it for real.
Starting point is 00:11:37 They was talking about him, but I'm a child, I'm like, okay, this is what we believe in. So I really was crazy enough to really believe in Jesus. And at six years old, I got put in my book I was talking to a flower one day and I was like, I know you can talk and I was like I'm gonna tell nobody if you just speak to me, it's between me and that flower said Well, I went in the house told my mama they don't came out I say look the flower talk
Starting point is 00:12:03 I say come and listen to the flower. I said, look, now I know I said, I won't gonna tell nobody. Man, that flower ain't say nothing to them, but I always had crazy faith and I seen it work. I fell on a bicycle one time and I flipped and I told my mama, she came out to run. I said, no God, he helped me down and let me slow. So I had this crazy faith and I just seen it in life.
Starting point is 00:12:22 Everything I got in, I was able to get out like I was able even when I sold drugs. I know Jesus were real because He cleaned my reputation. I got all these kids and and all my past but when people see me they don't Feel that energy off me and I'm like, but it was him But I picked up the Bible 2012 while I was in the streets. Cause you know, you lose God on the way to life when you start wanting to be yourself. And I learned even though I wasn't with him, he was still with me.
Starting point is 00:12:55 And I felt his word, cause he can't be in no mess. But that's why he give you his word and common sense. So I noticed the difference of having his word and having him, but 2012, I was up, had money, had the cause, I was like, I'm up in the wrong world. I say, the man working at McDonald's is actually better than me right now because if I got $100,000, I'm in the streets.
Starting point is 00:13:21 I'm on the negative end of the rule. Remember in school, you got zero, one, two, three, four, five. A negative 50, ill-gotten gain has no lasting value. And it says it's in the Bible. So I'm like, I'm really so far behind. So I picked up that Bible. It was my niece's Bible and I still got that Bible. It's in the truck right now. And nobody told me how to read it. I said, man, everybody telling go to this verse, go to that verse. I started from the beginning and I read it through to somebody. And to read it, I said man, everybody was telling me to go to this verse, go to that verse. I started from the beginning and I read it through to somebody and to this day I read it through seven times on my A trip now and I don't miss a day. But it was that word that was the origin of life. And once I tapped into that, he started getting
Starting point is 00:13:59 me out the streets. And then when the social media came, I knew what it was. I had just read a verse. He said, try this, try this, try that. And he said, perhaps all of them could happen. And I seen it. And I was like, so everything, something come, oh, this what? So I can, you know, preparation for it. Wow. All right. A man after God's own heart. That's amazing. I love that. I love that you, it's very impressive that you've read the Bible seven times
Starting point is 00:14:32 and you're on your eighth trip. That's crazy. A lot of people don't even have that attention span. Like how long do you read every day? I read a page a day. When I first started, I guess my spirit was so hungry. I was reading like 15 pages.
Starting point is 00:14:45 But then I got to the point where it only had to be one time a day. Because you know it now, it's just more like a refresher. No, it's just like, it's so much, if you read too much, it's like good food. Yeah, okay, yeah. It's real good, it's potent, so you got to take it in and that verse be in.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Everybody be trying to understand why they read. And I had to learn. You don't supposed to understand it all the time. It's like, if you take medicine for your foot, you don't know how I get to that. It go through your mouth. So the Bible, when it comes in you, it comes out when needed.
Starting point is 00:15:18 And it really helped me with business for real. I get mine. You do? Every deal, I just can feel, uh-uh. I just know what to. That discernment. No, no. And most of the time, by the time economy,
Starting point is 00:15:32 it already be, because energy just know. Yeah. You know, so that Bible is important, for real, especially when it comes to this world, because this world is wicked. It is, it is a very wicked world. Did you ever go through a season of unbelief and staying away from God,
Starting point is 00:15:49 maybe because of what you were doing, or were you like always like tapped in? There was never, you know, sometimes like- People try to run me away. Wow, people try to run you away. The church. The church tried to run me away. I went out, when I had a nightclub,
Starting point is 00:16:00 and then we had a successful night, nobody got in a fight, nobody, shoot, I put on Facebook, thank you God for letting us have a safe night at the club. And people from the church and the community was like, we don't like the way Country Wayne put in God and what he doing. I said, why would God go help something that's clean?
Starting point is 00:16:19 We in the club, we had a safe night. I don't care what they say. So even now when I did the Jesus Poppin' brand, people like, you putting that in what you doing, because you know I got the women in the skits playing these roles. I'm like, bro, man, Jesus is in whatever I'm doing. And if I'm doing something wrong, help me get out.
Starting point is 00:16:38 So I need them anyway. So no, I never lost my faith. I lost a lot of things. I lost money before, I don't lost people, but I always held on to my faith. I ain a lot of things. I done lost money before, I done lost people, but I always held on to my faith. I ain't never, because that's all I got in me. You know? That's so good.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Have you ever like, how do you push, I know there's been dark moments in your journey and we don't have to go too deep. No, no, no, let's go really deep. Okay. What are some of those dark moments and how did you like, when nobody else is watching, nobody sees Wayne,
Starting point is 00:17:06 what are the things that you do and how do you push yourself out of those dark places? Man, I give it to God. Man, when I get a headache, I give up quick. I'm like, I'm dead, God help me. I'm dead. I die, I don't try to fight through nothing. So I give it to God.
Starting point is 00:17:19 So you die daily. Like during the pandemic, I was broke because of the pandemic hit. I had like a hundred grand, but I was about to go on tour. So I'm like, I'm gonna go make that little sale on a real quick, you know what I'm saying? But pandemic hit, we can't work. My bills were 70 grand a month.
Starting point is 00:17:34 I like, I got down to $13,000. I was selling NutriBurst. I was about to sell it. I had put the tee. I had it on my link tree. If you could have screen-shotted my link tree, you would have seen NutriBurst up there. I had got me a box truck off into Amazon Rouse.
Starting point is 00:17:55 I started the LLC. But that was a dark place because now I don't worry about my family. I know I got faith. Yes, yes. I got faith, I wasn't worried. You were gonna be good, but all these people. Their faith is in my money. So I'm like, you know, so really I work hard just for them cause I got him, but that was a dark place.
Starting point is 00:18:18 I'm like, now they finna worry so much. But I was kind of happy that they got to see that moment because now they could realize it was never my money, it was my faith where I got money. But they didn't believe I, they thought I had money. I'm like, bro, I ain't got it. I had a short council. But that was a dark moment, man, but I remember the feeling. I'm like, here we go again. I did my head just like this. Then when the council was on the show, I did go again. I did my head just like this. They went to counseling on the show. I did my head.
Starting point is 00:18:47 I remember my head did just like this. God, here we go again. And my brother over there, he told me, he say, well, we finna see if all this hip is on the waist up. It's real. God, he's like. Hey, and celebrities was watching my stuff. I'm telling you, this is how I know, bro.
Starting point is 00:19:04 So everybody watch me screen Jesus off. So they waiting on something. Sometimes people waiting on something bad that happened to me cause they were like, is he gonna keep that joy? Celebrities were watching my page and there's one guy who got a podcast. He was like, man, this comedian is looking messed up now. It's one of them I seen him trying to sell some tea.
Starting point is 00:19:20 He was talking about the Nutri-Birds. But they were just wanting to see what I'm gonna do now. And I was grateful for that moment, because in that moment, but again, just like he did back in the day, he turned my life around to the point where I don't even need to answer him. He gave me something that is so unique and so for me.
Starting point is 00:19:39 So yeah, in those dark moments, I just give it to him. I ain't leaving him. I don't give a... Cause he ain't gonna embarrass you. No, he won't. No, at all. You know what I'm saying? I don't trust the world.
Starting point is 00:19:52 Yeah. I remember during COVID and that was a hard time for everybody. I was blessed enough to still be getting paid because I was on Tyler's payroll. So I was, even through that time, I was, I was, I didn't miss anything. That was nothing but the grace of God.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Oh, that was nothing but God. Nothing but God. Yeah. I don't know how that was. Everything stopped. I should have been over here on the sofa. Well, I wasn't here yet. We was at the townhouse, but I remember just,
Starting point is 00:20:19 it was just even like the isolation and like, okay, what kind of, anytime something like that happens and I'm going through it again with the strike that's happening right now. I always find a way to how can I come out of this better? You know, this is time that God has set me down. What can I do to hone in on different skills? And now I'm in the position.
Starting point is 00:20:37 I feel like I'm in my own pandemic with the strike because we're not working and acting was my bread and butter. I got two shows and that was like, I'm good. I can just enjoy, literally work up one month out of the year. Unless I book something else for those two shows, we shoot really fast. And then I had the rest of the year just enjoying my life. So now that we're not working, we had just worked in March or April for Sistas. And then I was supposed to be working right now for Zatima, which is my big check.
Starting point is 00:21:07 So I'm like, I'm good, you know, like thinking I'm good. And that's like, we don't know when we're going back to work. So it comes in like budgeting and like yourself, like overhead is like 50 K over, you know what I'm saying, for everything. And it's like, whoo, okay. Like everything you see, like my accountant's like,
Starting point is 00:21:22 all right, we can, this is what you can do. We can live off of this for however long, but you have to stick to this budget. So now D'Nor and I are like working on other things and it's just this pandemic that we're going through right now, what we call it, the strike is forcing me to like look at other streams and things I'm passionate about and things that I love.
Starting point is 00:21:42 So it's like a restructuring phase all over again. I think, yeah, I think a lot of people, somebody asked me about that the other day. I was like, what do you think it's gonna do for actors? I think a lot of actors are gonna be more creative and busy and savvy after this. Absolutely. Because it's gonna force them to,
Starting point is 00:21:57 because that's what it did for me, man. I would have never, if I would have had a bunch of money put up, I would have never built this, because sometimes people gotta know, like that song William Murphy got, it's working, and it's your season. When you know you got them,
Starting point is 00:22:14 everything that go bad is in your favor. So you gotta just soak that in black, no matter how, and it get ugly, because the devil, he sent tests, God don't test nobody. See, people don't know that. The devil the only one that sent tests. You know, he sent tests,
Starting point is 00:22:29 but as long as people hold on to that faith, and I know that sounds like grumbondom, and be like, ah, everybody been saying that, but boy, that faith in him, every time. That's what it is, and I think that's what it's gonna take. You know, that's what's happening now, I think that's what it's gonna take. That's what's happening now. Cause the way they shut down the industry, I was like, hold up, bro.
Starting point is 00:22:49 I understand they're trying to get more money, but they gonna give people some money for, because I know it's the union, but we need, but it's a crazy time. And that's why I feel for sometimes when I see people go through stuff, man, because I'm like, well, they ain't got that faith. You know what I'm saying? But that faith is going to get everybody through everything.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Yeah. No, absolutely. No, for real. You also talk about living in your truth. When you say, don't hide from where you came from, celebrate it. This is what makes you original. And a lot of people from the streets shy away from talking about their love for God and fear of making them look soft. We talked about, you talk about it on social media all the time, like you're like, Jesus has been popping. That's what I love about you is like a man who does not mind like screaming from the mountaintop.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Have you ever had people like, I know you said during the pandemic, people like, we just, they're looking to see like if you're gonna lose your joy. Have you had people come to you recently or during your journey saying, why are you always screaming about Jesus? That's the question I get.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Really? That's the question I get the most, but now I used to talk about it online, but God told me to hush. And now as they see my life going up, they don't need to question no more, they starting to believe. Because the way my career been,
Starting point is 00:24:06 it's been, it's just been a different ride. And it's just like, and I went on Good Morning America. And I remember, you know, cause you can't, for real, they don't let you say Jesus in these places. It's just like, it's just bad for business. We're not against it, but I went on Good Morning America. The first thing they did was zoom in on my chain. My publicist was looking like,
Starting point is 00:24:26 cause you couldn't believe, cause they were kind of like, no, you know how they are about that. But it's what I learned, it's people out there even in them evil places, that rep him, they just not bold enough to say his name. Yes, yes, oh, absolutely. What I learned, people who say his name strong,
Starting point is 00:24:45 there's people out there that are really in that industry but I got some people out there in my favor that be pushing for me. And it's like, but people, that's the question they get me. Like that Jesus thing, everybody wanna know, cause everybody deep down know our grandma told her that. Hello. And we got, people don't got away from it.
Starting point is 00:25:02 And it's like. That's the universe. Now it's, now I have that. Yeah, now it's the universe. I hate people come and talk about, people don't got away from it. And it's like, that's the universe. Now it's, yeah, now it's the universe. Man, I hate people come talking about when your birthday, Oh, Saturday. What happened to that Leo? You didn't know he was going to break your heart.
Starting point is 00:25:13 I'd be like, man, come on, man. I don't know. They be everybody. People don't know how to put the batteries right in their remote. But all of a sudden they know about the star. Yeah. I'm like, bro, come on, man.
Starting point is 00:25:24 We just the same thing. Grandma know about the stars. Yeah. All right, bro. Come on, man. We just the same thing. Grum on them talked about. Yeah. He been around that long for a reason. He has, he has, and it is our industry is very, very funny about that. I love it when people get on stage at award shows and say, thank you, Jesus. Thank you. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:25:40 They like give not just thank you, God, because there's so many gods in this world, you know what I'm saying? Like like give, not just thank you God, cause there's so many gods in this world. You know what I'm saying? Like there's different guys, but there's only one Jesus. There's only one Jesus, but, and people scared, but if you pay attention, the people I've seen really stand on it, the industry can't stop them. They can't.
Starting point is 00:25:56 There's a dude in Marvel, Chris Pratt. I love him, yes. Made him be DM'ed and then like, I told him, I said, I seen him go on there one day because deep down, that's what, only thing they say, I told him, I said, I seen him going there one day because deep down, that's what only thing they say, I had seen a guy say, he say, man, the devil is not scared of your good deeds. Only thing he fear is Jesus' name. That's why they trying to shut it up.
Starting point is 00:26:18 They trying to shut, cause there's power, it's power just in that man's name. If Siri got this much power and I could say, hey Siri, what's Martin Luther King's birthday? And she answered, imagine how much more power Jesus got. I've seen it and I've used it. I use it. He probably tied me called.
Starting point is 00:26:34 Cause some of this stuff he be like, you know what I'm saying? Some of this stuff, oh we got to get that right. See? See? See? See, yeah, he tried it. He just tried it.
Starting point is 00:26:45 He was like, we're going to stop this right now. But Jesus reacts faster than Siri, man. It's just because people can't see it. I know for me, it'd be him. I met Chris Pratt when I was going to, when John Gray had his church here in Atlanta, and he was filming something, and he came to the back and told us a story about when he was running one day here in Atlanta through the woods and just really heavy. It was a heavy day for him and he's like, I just need to go for a run. So he goes for a run and he sees this random bench in the
Starting point is 00:27:16 woods. He was like, why is this bench there? And something just said sit down and as he sat down he looked down and he noticed like a stone on the ground and he moved the leaves and it said be still and know that I'm God mm-hmm and he was like wow like it's funny like God found me as I'm running you know I'm saying trying to clear my mind and set me down and I saw that I was like that's powerful so I just I love I appreciate artists like Chris like you and myself who like don't who aren't afraid to talk about you. You can see it on you though. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:47 You can see it on you. Like, well, when I first met you, I was like, cause you know, I seen you on TV and I'm like, man, ain't no way this person look this, nobody don't see this. It's just like this, you got a walking filter. A walking filter. It's like, it's like this globe, man. Thank you. Like for real though. I just had Eve on here and she was like it was you it was your light and I'm just like we
Starting point is 00:28:12 were gonna bawl and cry. But um that's how everyday I wake up. Your ears even look angelic. I promise your ears look so healthy. You see her ear? You ever pay attention to her ear? God, they're brand new. Y'all here out here getting ear surgery. No, ear surgery? Yeah, that's a new thing, ear surgery. Amniot. Yeah, she is, is. She definitely is. I want people to see that light. My prayer every morning when I wake up is God, like when I walk out these doors, I want people to see you through me and just let your light shine through me.
Starting point is 00:29:03 is that people see him through me. So that's really good. I know that also in living in your truth, as you ascending your career, a lot of men struggle with leaving the street, tough guy persona behind and feel like they still are kind of tapped into the hood just to keep their credibility. Is that something you struggle with at all?
Starting point is 00:29:20 No, because see, I know women for real. See, most men do that because they think women, they perceive through hip hop, they think women like, but they don't know what women like, sometimes women don't know what they like. Everybody like, everybody like one thing, but everybody love another. And I learned, man, you know, people love you for you to be you. So wherever you are, and ain't nobody, we wasn't born thugs and killers. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:29:50 Even when I was in the street, I ain't never had no gun. I got me some money and you know, I love a pretty woman. Point blank period, but I ain't struggle with that hard stuff because I know me and I know how to fight in real life. So I ain't finna walk around all day proving it. But everybody finna touch me. But I get touched back. So nah, man, that street life was something that I was born in. If I was born another way, I would have did it another way. But that ain't nothing I was
Starting point is 00:30:16 wanting to even glorify. That's why I don't even talk about it like that. They had to make me write that book. I didn't even want to talk about it. I was like, man, I don't made it up. And that stuff just happened. A lot of that stuff in that book. We wrote that book in 2021. I just got a streak in 2016, but they got lawyers involved. And I said, you sure?
Starting point is 00:30:36 I was recording them on the phone and everything. When I was on the phone with them, I would mess and record. But they were like, nah, I can't get in trouble. But nah, that tough guy persona, if guys knew what women, they really paid attention to women, I can't get in trouble. But nah, that tough guy, persona, if guys knew what women, they really paid attention to women, they'll learn how to be, but they think women,
Starting point is 00:30:49 cause women go through a stage where they think that's what they want. You are so right. I went through that. I loved, my mom always say, you like them really nice and sweet, but rough on the edges. Like I wanted a little,
Starting point is 00:30:59 I need something like a little, Y'all break them guys heart. See what happened, y'all break their heart. Then they get mad. They didn't want to call y'all to be word and what's the name. Then they stay in this state because they thought that's what y'all wanted.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Yeah. And that's not, that's not what we need. Then when y'all leaving for the guy that they like, you know, but you got to be a mixture. Solomon said in the Bible, you can't be too holy. You can't be too wicked. And I tell people, I say, man, he say stay somewhere in the middle.
Starting point is 00:31:25 I say, so I ain't Kirk Franklin, but I ain't in little boots either. You know what I'm saying? So I'm like Russell Wilson in future, Mr. Guilford. That's a good balance. We're going to sleep in peace and all that, but I'm telling you, we're going to have a farm tonight. Yeah. I love it. I love it. You also talked about, don't get mad, get money.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Get money. Ignore people who want to tear you down and provide for the ones who love you. How have you navigated changing your friendships as you succeeded when it comes with like? Man, somebody ain't really trying to get no money. We better be talking about something. Is that friends and relationships?
Starting point is 00:32:06 Like what's your significant, what's your woman to? Well, I ain't got no woman. I know, but like if you had one, like what would you, what would she need to do? She need to be getting money too, or getting mad? No, not really. She just need to be, yeah, she need to be getting real money. And that's taking care of herself, drinking water.
Starting point is 00:32:22 You know, cause that's the main step. Before we do anything, we gotta drink water. Because if you got a billion dollars, and you're in there trekking fishing, they don't go to go. So we gotta drink this water. I'm done, okay. So I really just want a woman,
Starting point is 00:32:39 when I say I want her to love herself, that's the main thing, man. Put that energy into her, because you can't love somebody more than you love yourself. And do you practice the main thing, man. Put that energy into her because you can't love somebody more than you love yourself. And do you practice the same thing where you love yourself? Yeah, I love me. So when I give mine off,
Starting point is 00:32:51 I ain't never been in a relationship where the woman wasn't happy. She always happy. Because I'm gonna love me so well if I give off. Yeah, you're not pulling from music. It's like production. The better this post gonna be, it's gonna be the better or the pre-production. Absolutely. So if I put my time in this pre-production, by the time this piece come out,
Starting point is 00:33:10 I ain't gonna have to say nothing about it. You're gonna feel it. You're gonna feel, oh, did the director make that person turn their head and do this? Did they take the time and do a whole other scene? Because it was the energy they put in the pre-production. So I put that in me every day behind closed doors. So when I give it out, they're going to feel it. That's good. Have you had any old friends call you like a sellout or treat you differently as a result to your success or had to let people go?
Starting point is 00:33:38 Because I know for me, I went through recently what I call a purging season where I saw that I was ascending and certain people weren't happy for me or supportive and I'm like okay what you're saying where is this really going have there been people where it's like oh you didn't change or yeah for sure no how do you deal with it I don't really care I don't care about nothing but I mean I can't even try to care that's always been one of my flaws and my strengths, my so to say. I never care about what nobody else say. I just don't care.
Starting point is 00:34:09 And I think that's how I'm able to be creative. Cause I don't even care what my fans think about my content. That's good. Cause you're doing it for, like this is what you enjoy doing. This is what I gave you the idea. I don't care what the industry say.
Starting point is 00:34:24 I just don't care. Cause I love, if he loved me, man, he ain't finna give you the power to control my life. Cause sometimes the devil, he know he can't get you, but as long as he get a moment out of you. So like the devil would be like, he'd be like, yeah, I don't say nothing. The devil be like, I got 65 years out of you though.
Starting point is 00:34:42 It's like that guy told him all life when they were about to shoot the guy. He was like, the state of Mississippi got 40 years out of you though. It's like that guy told them all life when they were about to shoot the guy here. Like the state of Mississippi got 40 years out of you know. So I don't care. I don't give people that power man. Well you remind me of Tyler when you say that. Cause I feel like that's why he is so successful. He does not listen to any of the naysayers.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Nah Tyler but real people, like great people recognize great people. Cause man, I remember Talibah had them DVD, I mean, it was a DVD, what was it, a DVD or a tape? I know it was a DVD. I remember going to my friends and being like, man, this Madeleine person is so funny. I slid it in, I was like, well, y'all better laugh. So they watching it, but this one I know sometimes
Starting point is 00:35:21 the world is stuck on trends. He wasn't trending yet to them. watching it and they watching they don't see what I see I want stuff they talk about like man this funny seven weeks later the buzz going around by Tyler Perry they were watching it one day they bust out laughing I say man y'all so fake y'all not even controlling y'all own emotions the world got you yes and world is Satan, so you don't even know what's good. Yeah. Like when I look at you, I'm like, man,
Starting point is 00:35:49 like I told you today, I said, hey girl, beautiful woman in the world. Aw. You know what I'm saying? But they might got you ranked, but they probably like, this person got moved, I'm like, no. So I never cared so I could see. I just never cared, so I handled what people don't like me
Starting point is 00:36:06 or mad about something I move or they wasting their time. Cause. Yeah, that's good. And you'll go far with that too, because a lot of times I know as a woman in the industry, I have got caught up in that, like what people think and how I'm perceived. And I feel like I'm in the most free space of my life
Starting point is 00:36:23 where I don't care anymore. And I'm allowing people'm in the most free space of my life where I don't care anymore And I'm allowing people just to see crystal, you know, I used to try to like hide certain things or I Always say I'm giving so much of my life through acting I just want to have everything else be private but like nobody knows why I'm not sharing the blessings I'm not like allowing people to see all that guy. I see you girl. Yeah, you gotta see you guys You get you walk around with a filter. You got a natural human organic filter. You gotta let them see you, man.
Starting point is 00:36:51 Because you is, they need to see that. Yeah, I'm working on it. I'm, I, DeNora has helped me. Can you remember, Jesus Homeboy, Peter, I'm told him. They said, man, you gotta go ahead and show people who you is, because the world ain't gonna know you until you had yeah pull up side. He put up sideways on that donkey. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, he had a short Jesus see people thought Jesus that's why I named my brand Jesus Papa because people think Jesus is born
Starting point is 00:37:20 So the world don't made it seem like Jesus all people come around to preach and judge that ain't Jesus That's people using his name. Yeah, but instead of let him use them So the world don't make it seem like Jesus is all people gonna come around and preach and judge. That ain't Jesus. That's people using his name instead of letting him use them. And Jesus is the coolest, the fly. I tell my son, that's why I fight with the world of my sons because you know, there's rappers and a lot of people out there.
Starting point is 00:37:41 If my sons didn't see that women like me the way they like me, that's why I let them see how women act around me, because I'm letting them know, you can still be this. This who they gonna love. Now they gonna like him for a moment. But Jesus was the coolest. His name still buzz. No brand, Nike, nobody is outlasting Jesus.
Starting point is 00:38:01 And we ain't even seen him. We ain't have no pictures. Now this man, he real good. He a scammer. We ain't seen nothing. And this joker's brand is going strong. I love it. So you got when people believe in Jesus
Starting point is 00:38:18 in church, you be like, we gonna sit back and we gonna wait. No man, Jesus mad because nobody don't want to follow that big suit and that hat. You gotta put that drip on it. Yeah put that drip on it. And sign. Because when you step out there he's gonna help you step out there because God now, because if God I'm out here walking on this water you better help me because if I fall off you know what they're gonna say now. I said it's a pandemic Lord and I've been screaming your name and I'm on social media. So something, I'm just saying, you know, I'm right with you regardless but for your name.
Starting point is 00:38:54 And boy, yeah, yeah, I'm walking on this water, man, this water and my knees wet. Yeah. Hey, you chewed my. Jesus, keep working for me. Hey, get me out of here now. Oh my gosh, I can't with you. Man, for real. That is real. And they brought this strike. I'm like, oh, what?
Starting point is 00:39:22 Cause I already ain't trust the industry. The first time it hit me when it shut down so then I'm a confident build up I got some projects say God this hit again I said oh hell no. They'll never get me again to believe. Maybe I'll have projects coming out. What? Y'all just stop it. Yes. You should have called me a year ago. I would have planned my life accordingly. Right. Let me know. Don't stop nothing like this. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:51 Ain't no PPP coming. No. I'm staying over here. Right. I don't want to hear it. My agents, they can't get me confident no more. There's nothing until I'm on set with the chick. Hello.
Starting point is 00:40:03 Man. I know that's right. No, man. Oh my goodness. I'm sure you like, that probably helped you build your own table as Tyler says. Like I'm not going to depend on anybody else. Boy, I don't trust.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Nah, that's what made me do it during the pandemic. I was forced to, but not even doing this. Cause you know, I got Netflix special coming out. And they was like, and this, I know God, where they say the only thing you're allowed to promote is company specials So, you know my next person come out said to me That was God, even this was saved by that. But you know what I learned though?
Starting point is 00:40:33 People got to stop praying Start praying? Because I said, I said that to my brother the other week I realized I was wrong to worry about everybody praying And one person blessed could be another person demised I said, I said that to my brother the other week, I realized we're on the world, everybody praying. And one person blessed could be another person demise. Cause like, I'm like, I can't say thank you God. That he shut the industry down for me.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Right? Cause I'm like, but what about all the other people? So now I realized that's why I don't pray. That why, only thing I ask God, let God's will be done. Amen. Yes. Because we pray for storms. I worked for this power. Amen. Yes. Because we pray for storms. I worked for this power company one time.
Starting point is 00:41:07 We used to pray for storms. When a storm coming, we hope it hit. Cause we get some overtime. And when it hit, we say thank you God for that overtime. But it's, it's. So many people don't got hurt. So what I learned that, let God's, that's the only prayer everybody should be praying.
Starting point is 00:41:22 That's it. I, me, I say that too. I used to be like, Lord, please do this Lord. I want this in Lord God. Please change this person. Please help me with this. And it was like this long list of things that I'll be praying about. And then I read the scripture where it says,
Starting point is 00:41:34 don't go in your closet babbling. Just say the Lord's prayer, that will be done. And that's it. And literally when I took that on, I realized that the things I was praying for were one, too small. And what God had for me and what he was showing for me that he had was way bigger than I even imagined That's real. So that's I think we're you preaching that girl You don't know what you just see it. You just say it's all normal
Starting point is 00:41:58 Most times people say something big they think you're big when they be What you just say it's girl, cause that is so true. That's so, cause we don't know what to ask for, cause we so, we a piece of sand to a thousand beaches to God. Yes. My baby mommas try to get me with child support, they can't get me cause they don't even know how to ask for enough.
Starting point is 00:42:16 Ah! I had to help them. You're like, baby girl, you're making too small. Your lawyer wasn't good enough. Let me get you double that. They can't hit me. Wow. Because what your brain can't even, not even fathom it too small. Your lawyer wasn't good enough. Let me get you double that. They can't hit me. Because what your brain can't even, not even fathom it.
Starting point is 00:42:28 Yes. And that's what people don't realize. They need to let God will, just trust his will. Because what we, because what, because the dangerous thing, whatever you pray for, you eventually gonna get. That's why old girl Delilah got it from Simpson. Because she killed aggravating him.
Starting point is 00:42:45 And God, he's the father of all things. If you keep asking me, I'm going to open that door for you. And you're going to say thank you, but he already... Knowledge, no, right now. Wisdom, no, in time. There's only one prayer. God will be done, but he can't stand to hear a baby cry. He's going to give you that pacify.
Starting point is 00:43:03 And sometimes in life, very seldom you have somebody in your life who, a grandparent or something, who's stopping you from getting your blessing too early. If I would have been this popular at 22, I would have had all kind of women. God knew the time because now I'm too sleepy. I ain't got the energy. I'm not. Because now I'm too sleepy. Mm-hmm. It's too sleepy. So I ain't got the energy. I'm like, well, I'm tired.
Starting point is 00:43:30 Right. But no, that's what it is, man. It's God's will, man, to be done. And that's what people got to, and when you live like that, you really see, man, it's enough for everybody. It is. Everybody's supposed to be,
Starting point is 00:43:45 it's too many rich people out here for everybody not to be feeling it. Somebody being greedy. Mm. I don't make, I give away by, give to my family, my business, you know what I'm saying? By 300, 400 a month. But that 400 a month touched so many people.
Starting point is 00:44:06 400 what? Thousand. But when I say... We need to be in the family. It touched so many people. But it's people that are making triple what I'm making. That aren't giving, yeah. That's why because people don't believe in God's will. Everybody's nowadays online, they teach you how to keep your money for the future. That's all they're trying to do. I'm gonna be dead, what you talking about?
Starting point is 00:44:31 Somebody's, all right, man, listen, I ain't studying that. I'm trying, hey. So, but what it is, that's people who don't, he told you, man, money gonna be the love of money. You know, money is a low frequency. That why I told a guy one time, I take out my baby mama, don't care what man they with, he was like, man, you simple, no. You simple because you giving up energy.
Starting point is 00:44:55 My energy reserved. I give away federal reserve, they have no value. Oh, diddy diddy mama. You better stop, you a little preacher over here too, dad. Stop playing. Nah, nah, I ain't no preacher. I ain't trying to preach. He said, I'm giving away federal reserve. Not my energy. But God's will, they trying to put together, everybody trying to prepare their own will. They sitting their own will up. But we ain't good.
Starting point is 00:45:24 And the devil, people don't know, the devil don't come in your life to harm on purpose. They sitting there on wheel of it. But we ain't good. And the devil, people don't know, the devil don't come in your life to harm on purpose. He tries to be God. But he's so bad at blessing. Because this, how the industry turned out, this ain't God now. Because even if people make it through the stress of what am I gonna make it through. See they would let God
Starting point is 00:45:46 handle it. It'd be different. Because what happens in the industry man, some of these projects, you know what I'm saying, some of these projects what happens is a lot of selfish people. It ain't just in the studios and the people. If you know this project ain't gonna work in your heart. People are hire people just because they like them. And you playing with other people money. You playing with other people money now, if this don't come back,
Starting point is 00:46:12 we got to stop in a minute cause I'm not about to keep losing. Exactly. But it's people that'll be like, put this person's project because you putting your own wheel together cause it's gonna benefit you, but not knowing that wheel keep turning,
Starting point is 00:46:23 everybody gonna eat. But you know, so. That gonna eat. You know so that's good you talked about giving and one thing that Andy Norman who works at this he's one of the vice presidents at Tyler Perry studios he leaves at work and goes to Bible study every week and when I was still costuming before I became a costume designer even started styling Tyler he called me one day, he said, I don't know why God put you on my heart during Bible study, but he told me to tell you this. And I was like, what did he tell you? He said, he told me to tell you that your living
Starting point is 00:46:52 is in your giving. And I was like, okay. He's like, just remember that. And I was like, okay, I got it. So I've always been like a Tyler. Like I always make sure I give God his and help people as I can. But as I began to ascend and like gain wealth, I was like, wow, like I knew exactly. He didn't even, he's like, Chris, I had no idea why God put that, but he knew where you were going and he knew where he was taking you and he didn't want you to forget that.
Starting point is 00:47:16 So I always say, I want to tell you that as well. Your living is and you're giving and you're doing the right thing. I appreciate it, man. Yeah. I ain't got no woman in my life to tell me I'm doing the right thing. I appreciate it man. I ain't got no woman in my life to tell me I'm doing the right thing. That crazy. Is that crazy? That crazy but. Oh my goodness. Let's talk about women since we on the subject.
Starting point is 00:47:37 You are a father of 10. How did you end up with so many kids? I ain't pull out. How did you end up with so many kids? I ain't pull out. Were these like relationships or were these just, were they one instance? My first baby mama was my high school sweetheart. So we was together from eighth grade all the way to like a year. So we had three kids. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Nah, I cheated on her one time, got a girl pregnant. This was right after high school. And then my three kids in between her was women I dealt with one time. Why, ooh. And God did me like that, cause you know better. You know better. So when this girl got pregnant, man, I was like,
Starting point is 00:48:23 oh my God. You know what I'm saying? So I was at, I met six children. Wow. Out of the new, you know what I'm saying? And then, and then my ex, my ex-wife, me and her, me and her had three. Okay. You were married. Okay. How long you married? For seven months. Somebody said Nah, it was a year. It changed. I was with her for ten years. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 00:48:54 Together with her for ten years. Yup. Yup. Married for seven months to a year roughly. It was a year. Okay, a year. Yeah, for sure. What happened? Was it just was a year. Okay a year. Yeah, what happened? Was it just like a no, we just better be in color I married her because like first of all, we had got custody of one of my daughters
Starting point is 00:49:11 I had to go to court for us. So and I had just started doing the tour thing I'm like me I've been with this girl. I sold dope by her project man. I like man I'm from America this life guy. He's got any women. I'm gonna get it money. Yeah, I got in the industry I tell everybody a lot of men focus on these women because they ain't never had them. See, I did have them. So my focus now, yeah. So I married her, I'm like, man, I ain't stuntin'.
Starting point is 00:49:33 I'm finna do this. I'm finna change my family life for real. So I married her, man. And then a year later, I like, no. God hated to leave her behind. I ain't wanna leave her or my first baby mama, you know, a year later, I like, no, God hated to leave her behind. I ain't gonna leave her or my first baby mama, you know what I'm saying? But I find a way I could bring them up financially
Starting point is 00:49:50 and be there for them, but I- Was that a hard decision? Yeah, that a hard decision because you like, you know, you leaving them women, like we grew up together. So like, hey, I'm finna take off. But y'all ain't with it. They wasn't with it.
Starting point is 00:50:05 Nah, they just on, I'm different lane, man. I started growing fast. Like I started worrying about my diet. I started, cause you know, I picked up that Bible while me and her was in the project. And I was like, man, I told her you should have picked it up with me. And she asked me one day, she said, what you read?
Starting point is 00:50:20 You ain't gonna share what you read? I mean, I said, man, you gotta- You should read it with me. Read it with me. But I was growing so fast once I picked up that Bible, I was like growing a lot of stuff. Wow. So by the time I'm like, hey man, I'm a changed person.
Starting point is 00:50:33 That's so powerful. Cause you can't scream his name too long without changing your character. And my character was changing. And I was like, dang, they can't. Reverend Cowell. And they had first chance. They had first chance.
Starting point is 00:50:46 They had these. Now do they, have they expressed any regret like that? Every woman I've been with regret. But they ain't gonna find no Wayne. You ain't gonna find no Wayne. You ain't gonna find no Wayne that. What does a woman get when she get a Wayne? Your grandma gonna be excited in the world.
Starting point is 00:51:02 See, it's qualified in that. Cause your grandma could be excited, but your friend be like, man, he ain't like. But the world could be excited in the world. See, it's qualified in there, cause your grandma could be excited, but your friend be like, but he ain't lying. But the world could be excited, but your grandma like, he ain't the one for you, but I got the aunties in the streets. So they gonna, you blessed and you covered, but at the same time you pleased.
Starting point is 00:51:17 Cause you, we in the flesh, the spirit run the light, but the flesh got to be pleased. So the women would, the women, yeah, they regret it. And a lot of women I dealt with think it's still a chance because I'm free. Like I really, I'm not in a relationship for real. But- Now do you lead them on to make,
Starting point is 00:51:36 if they think they have a chance- I only play like that. You only play like that, okay. I don't play, I don't play with people. I don't play no games. No games, you don't play the radio. I'm direct, but no, but nah, they definitely regret it. But I'm petty like that.
Starting point is 00:51:49 I made sure they was gonna regret it. I work hard to make people regret. You just get better with time. Oh my gosh. I'm competitive, so I work on myself to be, to grow. Cause like I put in my book, man, stay up. That's the only way a woman gonna really ever want you and keep loving you.
Starting point is 00:52:12 You have to stay up. Yeah, that's real. That's real. So about your children, I see you're very active in all your children's lives. How do you manage and like, between business and, cause you're always, I feel like you're always working and creating something. How do you like manage, and, because I feel like you're always working and creating something.
Starting point is 00:52:27 How do you manage, even to be here today, how do you manage time for your children and your business? Well, I had to retire a lot of people. Like my daddy, I retired him, so he take my son to basketball practice. He handed them, he took the kid, the girls wanted to go to Beyonce concert. He put them in the Sprinter, took them in the Baby Mamas.
Starting point is 00:52:47 So basically I had to kind of like build a village around my kid. And they all helped me and I just make my, God made a way with my schedule. I control my career so much like I shut something down. Like this summer I shut the whole summer down. I told them I ain't working. And I ain't even know the strike would come. Like that. I knew it was the a right strike, but I'm like,
Starting point is 00:53:06 this will be open. But then an after strike came, I'm like, oh damn. Yeah, this is different. So I just, I put them first and I feel like whatever you put first, God will make a way for you to, for the balance, if you put the right thing first. I love that. Speaking of parenthood, you recently did a post about,
Starting point is 00:53:23 we talked about forgiving parents. What did you actually forgive your dad for? He wasn't there, you know, the times are neat. And he had it. He was in the streets hustling and had money, but he won't really bless my mama unless they was on good terms. And so it was on a condition and not unconditional.
Starting point is 00:53:42 Unconditional love, yeah, that's different, yeah. So I went through things that I didn't have to go through if he would just brought him some money right now. So I'm like, he wasn't there when he could have been. And so I forgive him for that though. Did that help you see what he did and where he went wrong, be the father that you are today? Yeah, that's why I take care of my baby mamas because in the day that's a hard job
Starting point is 00:54:07 and I learned that it set me free because me trying to control their life. The kids they do even though they do got a man I still gotta pay them bills. Yes. I can't let the kids sit outside because your mama whatever your mama doing or whoever they talking to they got nothing to do with the decision we made together to have this child. So it helped me understand that. Cause I know if that household ain't right. It's not good for the kids for sure.
Starting point is 00:54:31 Do your kids live with you or they live all with their... Well, my son live with me, Taimah live with me, but all the rest of them, they all got rooms in there, but they don't be there, they be with their mama. But they got a room there and their mama stay five or 10 minutes away, but it really just be me and Tamar Okay, come on other son just went to college. Yeah, what were the steps that led you to saying? I need to forgive my dad Man, I just don't like to waste time. I ain't holding nothing in. Yeah, that was yesterday. Mm-hmm
Starting point is 00:54:59 Was how was that conversation? Like was it hard because I know sometimes parents How was that conversation? Like, was it hard? Because I know sometimes parents, our generation is really big on like mental health and not wasting time. And we know the importance of certain things where our parents may kind of be stuck in their ways. Is your dad one of those people that's kind of like stuck in his ways?
Starting point is 00:55:16 Was it hard to even get through to him? Yeah, it was hard to get through to him. But the thing was, when you believe in yourself and you look at yourself a lot, you see that they went through things. So it's a chain. We know we coming out of slavery now. Especially black people.
Starting point is 00:55:30 You feel what I'm saying? So what we expect our parents to do. Let's be real. You're right. I say the same thing. I was telling my dad this recently. I said, you know, I think about the generational curses and how like our parents just repeat what they saw.
Starting point is 00:55:50 And you think about our grandparents who were the children of slaves, you know, like, or you're not as old as I am, but yeah. You know. I'm older than you in spirit. You are, you are an old, you literally are. Yeah. I will give you that. You know, so yeah. But our parents, like, it's like, you literally are, yeah. I will give you that, you know, so, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:06 But our parents, it's like, we're not that far, like we just getting out of that, you know, and we're the ones that are starting to break the cycles of those patterns. That's so true. I literally just talked to my dad about that. I was like- So we just getting out of slavery,
Starting point is 00:56:20 so we expecting our parents to be like, mama didn't do this, mama didn't, listen here, man. Listen, my dad ain't take my hips and throw it to them goddard women and have them babies. I coulda made that decision not to do that so when you believe in yourself, I got two kids that believe in theyself and they never reflect their problems on their parents.
Starting point is 00:56:40 Sometimes some of my kids I get mad cause when they go through stuff they make their mama feel like I just feel like I don't, I'm like, what's my two kids that believe in themselves? They internalize and they work on something. They don't take it and throw it on the parents. And I was always that child, because deep down, man, kids would lie. People would be lying.
Starting point is 00:57:00 I remember one time being bad in school, my mama was about to beat me. They were like, what's been your problem? I said, my Uncle Chunk. My Uncle Chunk had died, man. He had died two years ago. I don't wanna start that, man. But I needed something deep, safe for them to feel safe for me.
Starting point is 00:57:11 I was like, my Uncle Chunk, they were like, she was like, what's wrong with Uncle Chunk? She was like, I know, I'm like, thank God. She had that belt, I took that belt and put it on. I was like, yeah. She said, what about, I said, he been coming to see me at night. She said, what did he say? I'm like, oh.
Starting point is 00:57:35 So I know how kids and people are, man. They be other stuff, dog. If somebody, if you come in here and you slaps somebody, they be like, it's because you said this. No, it's whatever happened before that. This happened, that happened, that happened. You just happened to be the one that they get over the goddamn top.
Starting point is 00:57:54 So people know deep down, bro. People be having all, I like, man, people just ain't real. So I don't deal with a lot of that stuff, because, man, people don't wanna hear the real. They only talking. People be going through other stuff. And most times, it's relationships. Somebody that is going through something like, bruh, nobody shouldn't be able to have the power in your life to text you on the phone
Starting point is 00:58:13 and change your day. For you to call somebody and talk an hour about that, that means that we're not letting God be an accountant of our energy. Because we let God be the accountant of our energy, he gonna know how much to put in that. And then when it do happen, it ain't gonna affect you at all. So my mom and dad in life, I wasn't that tied into them. Cause the reason why my everybody heart was hurt,
Starting point is 00:58:35 my other siblings, cause you had too much faith in your mama and your daddy. There's only God. And as a child, we have time to learn that. But who though, as kids, do we know that? I don't know. My family was gone. They was drinking and smoking, so I guess I was one of them kids who grew up there.
Starting point is 00:58:51 But they have an option. My kids see me read that Bible, they friends see me read it. So somehow in our life. You're giving them a different example though. God, we don't see this. I don't know. Like you say, I can't say that because my sisters I think some children judge their parents because my whole
Starting point is 00:59:11 family did drugs and my auntie Wanda she's like she's my cousin but she my mom was like best friend and she always told us never try weed because it was a gateway drug but my sisters my family always judged them. Like y'all just a bunch of weed get different but what happened is they told us never try alcohol weed. They tried it. So now they fighting not to be alcoholic. So instead of calling themselves alcoholic, as long as they keep them some money and have a party, we just having to get, no, it hit you too. You judge that until you were a function alcoholic. But I didn't judge them, so I was like,
Starting point is 00:59:46 that's gonna get me. If I get in that, that's gonna get me, so I stay out of it. I'm not one of them people who think I'm better than something, but when you don't judge your parents, I knew, I said, man, that cocaine can get me too. If I ever try cocaine, it's gonna get me. If I ever, cause that coochie got me. You see what it did.
Starting point is 01:00:03 I did. Ten kids later. Sometimes, like, I see how my dad got me. You see what it did. You see what it did. Ten kids later. Sometimes, like, I see how my daddy had it. Sometimes it just ain't. But. How many brothers and sisters do you have? You got a lot of kids. My daddy got nine, eight kids.
Starting point is 01:00:14 My mama had three, so I was the oldest on my daddy's side, the youngest on my mama's side. I got two older sisters and all. And I just, I ain't never, my mama, I caught my mama doing cocaine one day. And I said, mama doing cocaine one day. I said mama, so the next morning I asked, I said why you put that white stuff over your nose?
Starting point is 01:00:29 But I was so real as a child. The one thing I appreciate about this woman, she didn't give me, you ain't see that, you ain't this and that, this and that. I tell everybody man, my mama's prayers allowed me to be real. And she said son, I just like the way it make me feel. My sister done would have been like,
Starting point is 01:00:50 you know what I'm saying? It's like, man, you know, when you look at life, when you be still and look at life for what it really is, you could be real and make real judgments. Like, man, come on, man. So, you know, it just, you look at life for what it really is and stuff, for how you want wanted to look. That's real. That's real. You recently said on our dear friend B Simone and Megan's podcast, No For Sure podcast, you said that you believe that
Starting point is 01:01:16 the only way to properly love a woman is to give her what God wants for her. Give her what God wants. Can you, that really, me and Don't, we're like, okay, we've never really heard a man say that. The way you broke that down. Can you break that really, me and Don't like, oh okay, we've never really heard a man say that, the way you broke that down. Can you break that down for me? You gotta give her what God wants for her and what that is, she gonna complain the whole time. My ex-wife, she complained the whole time
Starting point is 01:01:36 and she's happier now as a person because I never complied to the world. When I was in the street selling dope, she wanted us to be the lit couple, but I knew that wasn't good for her. It's certain things she wanted, but now she's a great mother and everything, because in the end, that's what they gonna love.
Starting point is 01:01:55 The one who kept it real with them. You mean she wanted y'all to be the lit couple, what does that mean? Like certain things I wanna do in the street. We ain't taking no trips, I'm a dope boy. And posting no pictures, I'm living the wrong life. God gonna be like, oh, so you trying to get out, but you out here showing up.
Starting point is 01:02:12 So it's just like, that would have made her so happy. If I would have took her on one trip while we were selling drugs, that would have made her so happy. There was a lot of things that wouldn't. So you wouldn't take, what if you just took her on a trip and just didn't take any pictures? I'm selling drugs. So that ain't fair. If I you just took her on a trip and just didn't take any pictures? I'm selling drugs.
Starting point is 01:02:25 So that ain't fair. If I'm telling God I wanna get out, that's throwing it in God's face. If I'm legit, okay, now I'm taking trips. Yeah. But it was a lot of things that would've made her happy in the moment, but she would've been with her friends there right now.
Starting point is 01:02:39 You know what I'm saying? So a woman, it's like a child, you know what I'm saying? We gotta give people, it ain't even a woman, just people. But a woman, if you give child. You know what I'm saying? We got to give people It ain't even a woman just people but a woman if you give her What God want for her? Her soul gonna love you even when her flesh mad at you See what happens is a lot of women flesh like a man, but they soul ain't feeling it So that's why depression comes anxiety But what happens is when your soul when you talk to her soul instead of her flesh,
Starting point is 01:03:06 her flesh gonna be mad, but it's even gonna comply. It's just gonna complain in the daytime. And eventually when that flesh catch up, it's gonna be thank you because in the end she gonna glow. Her better days are in front of her instead of behind her. And a woman, when you give a woman that, man, she give you her prayers. The name of my Netflix special is a woman prayers. I'm up right now because even when the women I deal with, deal with other men, their prayers are with me. Because every woman has a spiritual vagina.
Starting point is 01:03:40 And that spiritual vagina is a virgin. That's why marriage is still a virgin. Because they think this is the vagina. That could be washed out and dushed. Dang. Yeah, that man be so happy about it. Yeah, I got that. The reason why it's so accessible because obviously it's not, it's on lowest frequency. Highest frequency, that spiritual vagina and God is only going to let a man, a God touch that. Some women die of virgin.
Starting point is 01:04:08 But if you ever find a man who touched that spiritual vagina, your life going to be changed forever. I've never heard this in my life. And that spirit going to be... So now your spirit finally get to feel those moments and open her legs. Because she got her legs closed. She don't give a damn. She be like, you can do what you want to with yours.
Starting point is 01:04:26 What's the, why you giving it to him? And you try to be like, you try to trick her, your spirits, it was good. Like we connected for real. And then girl, oh my God, like this the one. And your spirit like, I don't care. What you talking about? Then about seven months later, it just didn't work.
Starting point is 01:04:42 Because it wasn't't work. Because what's going to work? Because he could apply to you. He did everything he can to get to that part of you. And that spiritual person like, you know, you got to think about it. The way I run, I could easily seduce women. Now. But I could tuck this in. It seemed more fun, but I'm like, no man, this is what they need.
Starting point is 01:05:08 I don't care. Yes. Because I know this works. Now, what does a man of God determine what God wants for her? Like, how do you know like this, I know what, how do you explain that? He want her fulfilled, man.
Starting point is 01:05:18 And he want her to get back on that journey. Cause when you get fulfilled, you gotta think about it. Peter then was getting wilted and everything. It was so fulfilling just to talk about Jesus. You gotta think how happy was they to walk around in those dirty sandals and speak about Jesus. And they found something that was so,
Starting point is 01:05:41 it's like a crack head, that crack so good. They don't care that they teeth dirty. They don't care that they teeth dirt. They don't care what you say about them. They like, just give me this $15 to wash this car. I'm finna go back and get this crack. So man, you find that, you activate that back in women cause she influenced the world. Cause once you see women talking about that
Starting point is 01:05:58 and wanting that, like even Ciara, just going to a man that talk about God. People, women start shifting their head a little bit. You get what I'm saying? So it gets them back on the journey and start feeling good to walk, eat good food and live life. So once you get on that and once you get happy. Now if y'all ever decide to get, the relationship is supposed to be the last thing.
Starting point is 01:06:21 It's for a holy matrimony is really your flesh and your spirit come into agreements because they got to live with each other. So you got to come to holy matrimony with yourself first because right now it's four people right here on this couch. My flesh, your flesh, my spirit, your spirit. So once you become whole, then you talk to that person's soul and that soul gonna tell you what to tell her to get her flesh back in line. And then now, when you finally get to that moment, that's my way now, for a woman to get to that moment so we can be whole together.
Starting point is 01:06:53 But that's what it is, and it's hard to do that, because most men wanna stay in good kahooks to get what they want. Cause they gonna say, and when they do say something triggering, it's malicious. It's the timing. They ain't really, like my baby mama,
Starting point is 01:07:14 when I told her I'm married, I knew my intentions were for her. When I met her, I said, oh, I'm gonna make sure this girl straight. Even if we don't end up together. She got something in her. I went over there, and we finally talked for a little
Starting point is 01:07:25 minute, I finally got that koochie. I played like the cool guy. I bought her some weed and everything. See, the devil act like he's God. Sometimes God will turn like he's a devil to get your attention. Because you know that's what they like. I bought her weed, I bought her and her friend weed. We were like, yeah, I'm acting like, man, soon as I got that koochie and I know I put that thing in there. And this morning I was like, hey, as soon as I got that cushion and I know I put that thing in, then this morning I was like, hey, we gotta wash these dishes and stuff now. She was like, what? Cause I switched. I act like I was the turn up guy.
Starting point is 01:07:53 As soon as I did, she started this and that girl started glowing. Glowing, glowing and the whole hood seen it. And women around there was trying to find wings. I seen the town change. So I learned that, you know, you get women back on the right track, God will bless you.
Starting point is 01:08:13 He'll take care of you, because he ain't playing by y'all. Y'all with prayers. He do not play by us. Y'all women, men don't understand that, bro. Like, y'all control the world. Y'all prayers are strong. That's why I work with, I pay them to do their job.
Starting point is 01:08:37 And they know men get paid more than women because I know they keeping this up, it's they prayers. Yeah, ooh, that's good. You know, so that what it is, man. Just gotta get that spiritual vagina. That spiritual vagina ain't ain't stuck no lie. They don't care about no smooth talk. It's been here before the ancestors. See that flesh thing, it know it's gonna get
Starting point is 01:08:54 tricky every time. And sometimes you got to drink a little alcohol to tell the spirit to shut up. So the flesh feel comfortable giving up what it's been. That's what most people before they cross the line. Because that's the only way that flesh drink up. Like you talk to them too much. so the flesh feel comfortable giving up what it be. That's why most people, before they cross the line, cause that's the only way that flesh drank up. Like you talking too much, you making me feel too conscious.
Starting point is 01:09:10 So let me unconscious do something to take my mind off. So now for this moment, and then sometime, and I still like, I need another one. Like this don't feel like I got this. Shot, I need a shot. Yes. Hush. You know?
Starting point is 01:09:26 And then all of a sudden, it hushed. You know it. You wake up, and it's back. See, how you feel this morning? And then people try, now you fighting trying to prove wrong. Like, I made the right decision. So what people do, they end up staying with that person long term just so they can prove to the spirit, I was good. Then after a year
Starting point is 01:09:45 later or two years and if you you blessed if it's that early because sometimes a person will take 10 years of your life and get what the spirit do every time. Come here baby. I told you I don't be telling you that to stop you from having fun but trust me me, I know. I'm connected to the one. Yeah, wow. And that's what it is. Mm, mm, mm, mm. So, talking about the spiritual vagina. Right now in your life, you're single, but are you like abstaining from sex?
Starting point is 01:10:16 Are you open to sex? Cause you're very spiritual. Are you feeding the flesh? Are you like, I'm good on that? Well, right now my flesh in there hungry, but it's still got appetite. So it's gonna eat. My flesh gonna eat. It ain't finna die. I don't know the hell doing that, but it just ain't got the appetite it used to have. Can you sleep it? You tired? Tired. I can't,
Starting point is 01:10:36 God I set you up. I'm so busy I literally can't, you know, my lifestyle don't bump into people. No, because I'm vegan. So most people go out to eat. Yeah. Vegan take you away so much from stuff because, man, those bad women in those restaurants, they trying to figure they just body back out. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:10:55 You know what I'm saying? So it's like, you know, I'm so disconnected. Yeah, I'm going, like, I'm going to always have sex. I'm never stopping that. God help me chop it off before I stopping that God have to chop it off Before I stop Like I'm not gonna like I'm not gonna never stop but it's just organically even if I try my hardest eat to my appetite My appetite just in it. Yeah, it just is is way Way way less than it would be it don't matter. Mm-hmm
Starting point is 01:11:22 Do you feel you said somebody because you busier now, like you don't, I've heard men say that like when they're focused on things, sometimes sex, because a lot of people think like, sex is always on y'all's mind, but I've heard it. It is most of the time. Until you hit a certain level now, I just don't have the appetite. It's like vegan, I didn't try to go vegan,
Starting point is 01:11:42 he took the appetite away. And this appetite he's taking away from me now, scared because I'm like, hey God, I don't fight him on that. You're like, I want this. But no, it just don't, that ain't my main, that just ain't the main course. Cause I used to be, man, I was born with a lustful spirit.
Starting point is 01:11:59 That's like when I was young, like man, God damn. I want this, I want one of them. I want one of them, I'm like, what, God damn, I want this, I want one of them. I want one of them. I'm like, what is that? You know what I'm saying? And then that lustful spirit lasted for a while, but I noticed when I started getting that word and when I started getting off that pool, I noticed, man, I ain't have the energy. I think sometimes the hormones in that pool, you have your animal, whatever your animal
Starting point is 01:12:22 spirit is, some people, it make them eat more. Some people make them more angry at me. It was like, I want some coochie. You know what I'm saying? So, I'm gonna have most women, and this is how it's going. But now, I'm just more, I move, I walk like, I walk like. So that ain't the main thing. I like to get to know people now.
Starting point is 01:12:41 So like, speaking of that, like, as your single, like, how do you even like approach relationships? Like like if Wayne was supposed to see somebody like how what would you do? I'm gonna tell you straight up if I like a person I want to be with you for real. I'm serious about everything I say like I'm already thinking about marriage I ain't got time to be but most times they set up that they ain't gonna believe you. Yeah they be be like, what? Right. I be serious. I go straight at it. I ain't got time to play.
Starting point is 01:13:08 Right. Wow. I'm like, if I like somebody, I already know. Went through my mind first. I write my content in my mind. I never use paper, so everything is in my mind. So I look at a person, I be like. Little scan.
Starting point is 01:13:23 So by the time I step to somebody, I'm like, hey man, this is what it is. But most people like, they'll come believe it for, that they gonna talk to one of their friends. That their friends are Googling you. They're like, oh, you gotta check this first. Yeah, you gotta, look at this. Look at this and that's- He got all these kids.
Starting point is 01:13:40 And then they gonna come back with that. I'm like, well, all right, they gonna see. That way they gonna look up and be like I'm like, well, all right, they gonna see. They gonna look up and be like, damn, god damn, I should get. So I'm gonna go, but I really like, I like relationships. I do like relationships, but it just got to be somebody who really trusts and believe that this is it for real.
Starting point is 01:14:00 Yeah, do you feel like, I know you balance your family well. Do you thought you could also balance a relationship? Oh, yeah Yeah, I could balance it's easier now because you got time for no bunch of women So a relationship is like sometimes it's the opposite I feel like a lot of times when men get success it opens the door for more women What do you mean? You don't have time for a lot of women? The door open, they can stay in the door all they want. They ain't been getting no real energy out of me.
Starting point is 01:14:30 If you want somebody taking naps, cause I don't, I'm not, nah, I just ain't got time. Especially when you in the lane, I'm in cause I ain't getting checks. I ain't never got a check yet. All these checks I'm getting, I'm creating. Wow.
Starting point is 01:14:44 Like even this movie, I got to go put together, the agency had to do this, I had to go get the producer to do this, I'm finna do this movie, you know what I'm saying? I got to go raise ZMS. I'm in a, I'm not in the state, I still ain't got a check. Yeah. So I don't got time. Mm-hmm, yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:01 Because every piece of my business, I never got a check yet. First check I got was that book, you know what I'm saying? And every other check I create, it come every month. So I'm in that state of mind. I stay in the hustle. And once I don't got this far with it, I put that before everything because this my freedom.
Starting point is 01:15:22 This my leverage to be able to walk into meetings and be like, no, and I admit it. If you ain't trying to be mean, if y'all want to blackbomb me, go ahead. Cause Jesus, Jesus turned his whole goddamn, you know what I'm saying? Y'all know what I'm saying. But nah, so relationship wise, man, it's easy to be in relationship right now
Starting point is 01:15:40 because if I had a woman who really on that journey with me broke, I ain't getting off Jesus. Absolutely. Yeah. Staying on that. So we ain't gotta talk about him all the time, but we better know that's the head, because I'm not even getting no long conversation
Starting point is 01:15:53 about no blinds. Like I ain't finna be having no woman talk to me about all day, no two hours. I'm like, we could have talked about it. You know what I'm saying? So I just want to live and I want to have fun. I'm at that stage now. I don't walk, like I said, I don't walk across the path.
Starting point is 01:16:09 So I ain't got no trauma. I want to enjoy, let's go eat together. Let's travel together. Let's make love and let's work together. Let's, okay, what you got going on? What's the best, babe, what you think? Oh no, okay, man, I think I want to be in those conversations of prosperity. I want to be so in love that we don't even know we're in love.
Starting point is 01:16:34 That we wake up and you see this person every day. Hey, you good? Man, guess what happened, man? I just seen this, you know what I'm saying? Short conversations and man, my goddamn knee hurt. I want to say something like, man, my knee even hurting too. I don't want it to be an act every day. Yes.
Starting point is 01:16:50 Babe? Mm-hmm. I feel like I'm on set, action. The director is here. Yeah, like, you know, even when people try to act like that, it's see it critical. People on TV, yes, I'm not doing that today. Even in acting world, that scene. Yes. More on TV, yes, I'm not doing that today. Even in acting world that scene.
Starting point is 01:17:06 Well, like, hey man, I wanna wake up. Man, baby, last night, man, I sleep on the sofa come out and eat my cereal. I know it's just, I want that organic, natural, and I don't wanna be telling someone what we read to make our relationship better, man. Let's figure this out. Yeah, I love that.
Starting point is 01:17:21 I saw on your Instagram that you bought a G-Wagon for your future wife. What made you do that? I saw on your Instagram that you bought a G-Wagon for your future wife. What made you do that? I make all my exes mad. Patti! Patti Wade! I did this marketing because the name of my special is a woman's prayer.
Starting point is 01:17:37 So I'm gonna start doing things up to that point. Cause Drake, he has like a closet of Hermes Birkin bags for his future wife. So I love that. But that's a G-Wagon. I drove here. Oh you did? I was going to leave it. Guess what?
Starting point is 01:17:50 I got what? Oh damn. He said I drove here. You got what? He said I got what. Yep. As you spending your money. What did he say?
Starting point is 01:17:58 As you spending your money. You supposed to keep yours. I got what? I got what. I got what. I got what. I got what. I got what. I got what. I got what. I got one. You said I got one. Yep. As you spending your money, isn't it? What you saying?
Starting point is 01:18:06 As you spending your money. I'm supposed to keep yours. See women out there, you know, guys are independent. Talk about it. Hey, let me tell you something. I'm gonna tell you, I say this on stage the other week. Women got, they say that the laziest women got the best coochie.
Starting point is 01:18:23 Let me tell you why. What? They say because an ambitious woman uses all her creative juices up here. A lazy woman uses downhill. I said, I like a woman that scrubs. I like a CNA. They were too lazy to go to school for them few years to get there. Sometimes you gotta keep your money. But you gotta keep your money.
Starting point is 01:18:52 See some women scared to be a scammer. Y'all admit to be that. You don't want to be spending your money. You want to spend your money because I want to be independent. No spend money and he'll be mad. I gave you your money, you showed it and what? You can't be spending your own money too much. Cause that'll cause stress, cause now you a man.
Starting point is 01:19:10 Like you supposed to do it sometimes. The soft life we were talking about. Yeah, you don't wanna do that, because you wanna keep your money, cause a woman got money, and she keep her money, she feel good everyday, no matter what sometimes. A woman cannot handle seeing money going out her,
Starting point is 01:19:23 can't she be like, ah, she turn, yeah. Yeah. A woman cannot handle seeing money going out her counter. She'll turn. I tell most men you can't even get a woman attention until you take care of her life. Because she's halfway talking to you. Is this person, but is this person? In the back of her mind she's thinking about where she got the pay next month. So she's there, but she's never really there. If you go and just figure out a way, don't even tell her, just pay it all, send a check every month, guarantee.
Starting point is 01:19:48 No, this ain't for nothing. You don't gotta give me nothing. But this goes $15 a month. Just, we can sign a contract for five years. And at first she's like, you didn't even try me like that. Then you like, shh. Then you got her attention, so what? So what were you saying about all that stuff
Starting point is 01:20:04 that you like my ass? She don't hear all that. Yeah. Because a woman can't handle money coming out of that account. My daughters, bro, I get them allowance every month. I give them $2,000. My daughter, every month, Malia, we give them the month she have shades on
Starting point is 01:20:19 when she get her checked. Oh my gosh. Every month right after the 14th, she be depressed. Her mama like, what's wrong with it? I said, it's that money. They be broke by the other half of the month. I see they depression and I'll be laughing so hard, but women cannot handle money going out.
Starting point is 01:20:36 It's not good for their psyche. That's what a woman see that money, they be wanting to turn their card. I'm like, what is this? Right. And I ordered, but they can't start ordering stuff. Nope. So man, I be telling women,
Starting point is 01:20:50 I know some women in the industry, bro. I know some comedians, I know some women who don't spend their own money. They is depressed right now and I feel sorry for them. They still got money, but I would pray for them because they tried that. And I'm like, y'all ain't. A man built for certain things, a woman built for certain things. See, I go, a man go down, you know, but a woman, that ain't good for her men,
Starting point is 01:21:14 because even if she do bounce back, she don't lose some of her health on the way to that joint. So I'd be like, man, that's why I take that press off my baby mama. Because even now, because they don't got no big stash. Cause I take care of them, but I have to give them a stash cause I can see it on them. They walk different. I'm like, what the hell wrong with you? Just they look dark.
Starting point is 01:21:34 As soon as their money hit their account, I promise you, it's the light they come. They speak different. Their bones move different. They ain't even glowing. They ain't even connecting glowing. They even connected. That's weed. It's a hotter weed.
Starting point is 01:21:47 I tell you man, a woman can't spend a whole month all the time. They can't take it. So when we were talking, you said something about you went to this woman, the girl that you went to, and you brought the weed for the friends and then you got the cooch. Then the next morning you woke up, you know you got to wash some dishes. So when we talk about dishes, we all in society, we talk about gender roles. Are there things that you feel like a woman has to do in the household and that is some things are just for a man to do? No, you know it's different situations, you know what I'm saying? If that woman working that man need to be watching the dishes, you know what I'm
Starting point is 01:22:20 saying? You got to work with each other. So it ain't no set. It ain't no set life. It's just that for a set kind of person. Like some women, go make sure they ain't playing that. You gotta help take care of me. Cause I'm gonna do this. So me, I just stayed the journey. I won the whole time. So if I won the whole time,
Starting point is 01:22:42 at this point we ain't gotta clean up cause we'll pay. But at that point we couldn't pay no maid. Right, okay. So who gonna watch these dishes? Now I'll watch them. I'm cool, I'll watch them. But you know, when I go to Keisha's house, I don't say nothing. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:22:56 So it's like in each situation. Not that I got to Keisha's house. I think each general, it ain't no set what a man got to do, what a woman got to do, man. Because in the day when it's time to fight, when y'all fighting life together, y'all just got to look out for each other, man. Yeah. And I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,
Starting point is 01:23:04 I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm I think each general role, it ain't no set what a man gotta do, what a woman gotta do, man. Because in the day when it's time to fight, when y'all fighting life together, y'all just gotta look out for each other, man. If you tired, I gotta do this. Oh, let's call somebody, let me figure this out. But at the end of the day, it depends on where you're at in life, and it depends on who you are. Because some women gonna make you be a man. You can't be nothing but a man. Because she ain't gonna let you be no woman. And you gonna run across some men, all that man stuff in you, you might as well just be a man. You can't be nothing but a man. Because she ain't finna let you be no woman. And you gonna run across some men, all that man stuff in you, you might as well just be a woman. Because that happened in my past relationships too. I ain't them. Whoever you
Starting point is 01:23:34 talk to, Melissa Conner raised me and she taught me how to be a man. You ain't finna be nothing but a woman. And I'm not going to put my hands on you, I ain't going to raise my voice, and I'm not malicious. But I am 100% man. So you can't be nothing but a woman. Yeah, that role fulfilled But generally you got to watch no dishes a man or going to watch them just I clean my house my house is immaculate I'm a clean person. Yeah, they don't want me to know So what is Dwayne looking for in a woman? If you were to tell the ladies. Tell the ladies what kind we're looking at. You can look at this and our death
Starting point is 01:24:10 share. Which one is his camera? To be honest, and this gonna sound cliche. I'm looking for a woman who really believed in God for real and not the world. I never had a woman cheat on me with a man for as I know, but I had a cheat on me with the world. So I just want a woman who really believe in God for real, for real. That crazy faith. Cause if she believe in that, everything else gonna fall in order anyway.
Starting point is 01:24:40 I don't need no woman who gonna clean up, even though I love a clean woman. Cause we can pay somebody to do that. I don't need no woman who making some money, we get some money. I don't need no woman who's gonna clean up, even though I love a clean woman, cause we can pay somebody to do that. I don't need no woman who's making some money, we get some money. I don't need no woman who, I don't care what it is, but if you just believe you can come as you are, because that's gonna work in order,
Starting point is 01:24:56 and we gonna live in our own world, and people gonna pay attention to us. And like, why are they so happy? You know, don't be picking stuff out from the world, bringing it back home. Because he told us not to eat the apple. But we still on the iPhone with the apple on the back. Still in the tree, picking up everything and bringing it back home. And God said, don't bring it back. Wow. So I was the only one who believed in Jesus for real. Did y'all hear what he just said?
Starting point is 01:25:28 We still got that iPhone with the apple in the bag. Bringing it home. Oh, we're gonna just leave it right there. Oh my gosh. I'm blown away. That was a whole Bible study. That was a whole Bible study. So good, so good. Appreciate it, man. No, so good. Wow, thank you so much.
Starting point is 01:25:52 I appreciate y'all, man. I appreciate this sofa and the whole morale. This is great what y'all got going on. Thank you. And this is right on time. It is right on time. We're almost done. We're almost done.
Starting point is 01:26:05 We have a listener letter where people write into us and we give them advice. So I'm going to read letters called Positive Outcomes. And this young lady says, Hi Crystal, I'm a 44 year old woman who just ended a six month relationship with a 39 year old man who I've actually known for years. We finally decided to link up one day and had great
Starting point is 01:26:22 conversations about life and past relationships. Come to find out, he met all the qualities that I was looking for in a man The only problem was he was broke and jobless I stayed in it for six months and fell in love with the potential of him be of him becoming the man that I wanted Him to be things got ugly within the sixth month. I knew that it was God releasing him for me I experienced a great deal of trauma in the past three years and actually felt secure in the moment for all the wrong reasons. Although we don't talk and everything is still fresh, he still talks to my sister, who was in a relationship with one of his family members, as if he and I never happened.
Starting point is 01:26:58 I keep trying to figure out what is it about me that keeps falling for men who don't meet my requirements when it comes to job, money, and faith? I work two full-time jobs and I take care of myself and my children. I will continue to have faith that my equal is on the way. Can you please give me some advice to strengthen my self-confidence and put boundaries between my ex and I who I still love with friendship? What's that last part she said? The very, very last part.
Starting point is 01:27:25 Hold up. She say, can you please give me some advice? Mm-hmm. Just strengthen myself. This one, she needs to strengthen myself. Confidence and put boundaries. Mm-hmm. That's the answer.
Starting point is 01:27:36 She got the answer right there. She needs to strengthen her, she just needs to work on her. Work on her, you can't work on nobody else. You can't change men, you can't change the people that come in your life. The devil gonna send them. And you just got to change you. Life is like from kindergarten to 12th grade. People think it's from 12th grade to kindergarten.
Starting point is 01:27:56 The lesson get harder. You go from one plus one to three X times 50 X and da da da. But you get stronger along the way that it feels like kindergarten. Wow. So you got the strength in you So when that stuff comes, you know how to handle that you gonna be different Okay, now I ain't gonna lie cuz what it is sometime the broke man got the best D. So it's hard to leave him alone Cuz they gonna they focus on that like the lazy women got the best
Starting point is 01:28:23 the broke men got the best, the broke men got the best. The lazy women, what? You come home, she just laying on that sofa, what? You got that vibe about you, like if you, like. The way that I'm lazy. Yeah, you hard work, but you lazy. I work hard, yeah, yeah. I'm lazy.
Starting point is 01:28:43 I never have a balance. Boy, you got that, like, don't come home and see you look lazy. I work hard. Yeah, yeah. I'm lazy. I don't have a balance. Well, you got that. You're like, don't come on and see you be happy. Well, like, I hate to be on y'all day, but good Lord. Okay. I would tell you definitely work on yourself. Do some self-work, do therapy,
Starting point is 01:29:01 because it sounds like you've been through some things. You said you had trauma from past relationships in the past three years. I would work on yourself before hopping into a relationship. I do know that it is hard to deal with someone who is still friends with your family and still be kind of lingering. It's hard to get over somebody when they're still so close.
Starting point is 01:29:19 You know, it's like, dang, can you just, can I have my people, you know what I'm saying? Can you just go on so that I can have my life back and not think about you or constantly have to hear about what's Going on with you. So I know that's hard as well But you can't control the the fact that your sister's in a relationship with one of his family members I would just do my best to just let her let your sister know. Hey, I don't want to hear anything about him I'm trying to get over it even though you love him, but I think it what Countryman says, right, you have to start with yourself. That's real.
Starting point is 01:29:52 All right, so we do something called what I'm going through and what I'm growing through. Is there anything that you're going through and growing through, Lame? Going through? In life? Shoot,, really. Everything's just great. I might be going through it, but he won't let me feel it. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:30:13 That's good. So this part of the show, we fill in the blank. It's called Keep It Blank, sweetie. Okay, cool. From this episode, I would say keep it creative, sweetie. Never like get complacent, always stay creative and think of new ideas and things to do. That's real. What would you say? I like that.
Starting point is 01:30:43 You like that? You can go with what I said. I'm gonna go with what you say. All right, purple. We saying, keep it creative, sweetie. Thank you, Wayne. No, thank you. No, I appreciate you. You have such great insight
Starting point is 01:30:53 and the way you break things down is like no one else. I appreciate your funding. You had us all laughing in here. I hope you guys enjoyed this episode of Keep It Positive, sweetie. If you wanna be featured on our positive outcomes listen to letter write into keep it positive Sweetie at gmail.com and that's sweetie with an ie you can follow keep it positive sweetie on all platforms and you can follow me on all platforms at luv crystal Renee and
Starting point is 01:31:20 Wait until where they can find you. Oh, it's country Wayne with a K. K-O-U-N-T-R-Y Wayne. That's right. All right, stay tuned. Make sure you guys get his book. His book is entitled, Help is on the Way, Stay Up and Live Your Truth. It's out, get it, and remember Jesus is popping. And in the meantime, until next time,
Starting point is 01:31:40 keep it positive, sweetie. Love you guys.

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