Keep it Positive, Sweetie - A Cécred Place w/ Tina Knowles
Episode Date: July 9, 2024Ya'll we are back for Season 5 and I decided to bring KIPS to LA during BET week. I had the pleasure of talking to the amazing Miss Tina Knowles and she is just as sweet as can be. We all know her for... being Beyoncé and Solange's mom, but I wanted to get to know her and learn about her journey. We talked about everything from her upbringing, her family, Cécred and so much more.
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                                         Hello and welcome to this episode of Keep It Positive, sweetie.
                                         
                                         Guys, I am so excited because Kips is taking LA.
                                         
                                         That's right.
                                         
                                         I'm meeting up with some of my favorite people here in the Los Angeles area and I cannot
                                         
                                         wait for you to see what we have in store.
                                         
                                         Right now we are in 13 Loon.
                                         
                                         It is a store founded by Nakao Greco.
                                         
                                         The store has 90% of the products are founded by BIPOC. 13Lune, thank you so much
                                         
    
                                         for allowing us to use this amazing space. If you're in the Los Angeles area, make sure you guys pull
                                         
                                         up. Tina Knowles is a businesswoman, fashion designer, philanthropist known for establishing
                                         
                                         brands like House of Darien, Miss Tina by Tina Knowles, and recently launched the Sacred Haircare
                                         
                                         line with her daughter, Beyonce. Hello and welcome to this episode of Keep It Positive, sweetie. I'm
                                         
                                         Crystal Renee Hazlett and today I have with me Miss Tina Knowles. Thank you so
                                         
                                         much. Oh thank you for having me. I'm excited. I know you're busy and you got a
                                         
                                         lot going on so just your time means a lot. Thank you. Yeah
                                         
                                         So I want to first talk about the day I first met you. I don't know if you remember this
                                         
    
                                         But we were backstage for Tyler Perry's Madea farewell tour here in la
                                         
                                         And I was in the back waiting on Tyler to come out and he comes out of the room and he goes come here
                                         
                                         I didn't know who was in the room. Really? I had no idea. He was like, come in here. And I walked in and it's you, B, J.
                                         
                                         And I'm like, hello.
                                         
                                         But you were so sweet from the moment I met you.
                                         
                                         And every time I see you, it's always warm greetings.
                                         
                                         And I appreciate that.
                                         
                                         Oh, wow.
                                         
    
                                         But yeah, I always like to tell how I met the person.
                                         
                                         Somebody, of course.
                                         
                                         Yeah, it was so fun.
                                         
                                         Yeah, that was a memorable night to say the least.
                                         
                                         I remember that night.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         The play was really good. So good. It's so good. I always try to pop in and see him when he to say the least. I remember that night. Yeah.
                                         
                                         The play was really good.
                                         
    
                                         So good.
                                         
                                         So good.
                                         
                                         I always try to pop in and see him when he's on the road.
                                         
                                         Yeah, just to check on him.
                                         
                                         Yeah, but that was a fun time.
                                         
                                         Everyone knows you.
                                         
                                         We were introduced to you in the 90s as Beyonce's mom.
                                         
                                         But I want to know who Tina Knowles is and where Tina comes from.
                                         
    
                                         So tell us just a little bit about you.
                                         
                                         Well, you know, I grew up in Galveston, Texas in the South
                                         
                                         and grew up really poor.
                                         
                                         Found out later that my parents
                                         
                                         boarded for me to go to private school.
                                         
                                         Really?
                                         
                                         They were, she did all the sewing for the church
                                         
                                         and my dad showered the nuns
                                         
    
                                         and you know, we were like indentured servants for them.
                                         
                                         Which wasn't the best experience for me,
                                         
                                         but it prepared me for a lot of my life,
                                         
                                         and I appreciate their sacrifice.
                                         
                                         Just grew up in Galveston, this little island,
                                         
                                         and so it's like a tourist town.
                                         
                                         It was fun growing up there,
                                         
                                         and I got into makeup early.
                                         
    
                                         That was my first job.
                                         
                                         I was a makeup artist, real job.
                                         
                                         And just wanted to do something in beauty.
                                         
                                         Couldn't wait to get out of that little one horse town
                                         
                                         because it's about that big.
                                         
                                         And my journey has just been,
                                         
                                         I call it God giving me the tools.
                                         
                                         He just filled my toolbox with all these experiences
                                         
    
                                         in my life that helped me to do everything
                                         
                                         I'm doing today.
                                         
                                         Wow.
                                         
                                         So I'm not, you know, I went to a short time to college, but you know, I've been able to
                                         
                                         have an education in life and in experiences and travel that I don't think I could have
                                         
                                         paid for.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         So it's been really great.
                                         
    
                                         I mean, that makeup, modeling some, doing hair.
                                         
                                         I had a hair salon for, yeah.
                                         
                                         Headliners, what's it called?
                                         
                                         Headliners, yes, for many, many years.
                                         
                                         And it was just a great experience
                                         
                                         because I got to make women feel beautiful,
                                         
                                         which is my favorite thing in the world.
                                         
                                         And it was a positive space for women
                                         
    
                                         to support each other and network
                                         
                                         before we knew what networking was.
                                         
                                         And I've watched your podcast and what I love about it
                                         
                                         is the positivity.
                                         
                                         Because there's so much negativity right now.
                                         
                                         I can hardly stand some of the podcasts
                                         
                                         that people have just to sit down and tear people down
                                         
                                         and put out all this negative, lying information,
                                         
    
                                         a lot of it about my family.
                                         
                                         So to see something like this positive,
                                         
                                         even the name of it just makes me happy.
                                         
                                         So it was important that I come and do this
                                         
                                         because we should support these positive things
                                         
                                         because they help us, The other stuff hurts us.
                                         
                                         It does, oof.
                                         
                                         Yeah, the negativity hurts us
                                         
    
                                         and it doesn't do anything for anybody's self-esteem.
                                         
                                         It's crab in a barrel mentality
                                         
                                         and this is amazing what you're doing.
                                         
                                         Thank you so much, Encina.
                                         
                                         I appreciate that.
                                         
                                         So you talk about the negative media.
                                         
                                         I, just because I'm really pretty new to success
                                         
                                         and I didn't understand what I was signing up for.
                                         
    
                                         Woo, yeah.
                                         
                                         When I'm telling you, it took me to probably this year
                                         
                                         and this is going on four years
                                         
                                         that I've really been known
                                         
                                         that I'm finally to the point where I can be like,
                                         
                                         you don't know me, I'm not gonna take it personal.
                                         
                                         But in the beginning it really, really hurt.
                                         
                                         Oh, it hurts.
                                         
    
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         And even, I mean, I've been in the business
                                         
                                         for dealing with this business for over 20 years.
                                         
                                         And some things just go too far.
                                         
                                         So I'm quiet and I'm cool about it,
                                         
                                         but you know, you mess with my grandbabies,
                                         
                                         you mess with my children.
                                         
                                         You lie on my children, I will speak up
                                         
    
                                         because I think it's important to have that balance.
                                         
                                         And I think that something has to, you just can't keep taking it, you know.
                                         
                                         Even though you know that it's not true and all of that, but some things are
                                         
                                         below the belt and they are just unacceptable.
                                         
                                         Yeah and I love that about you. You will speak up. I'm like, tell them I'm gonna take it up for real because
                                         
                                         there's moments where you, I see you just kind of let things fly into the radar
                                         
                                         but when you need to speak up, you do.
                                         
                                         And I appreciate that.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, no, that's real.
                                         
                                         But yeah, I definitely, I can empathize with you on that
                                         
                                         because it does hurt.
                                         
                                         Especially if you're not used to it
                                         
                                         and then some things like, you don't even know me.
                                         
                                         And they just blatantly lie and get away with it.
                                         
                                         That's not fair.
                                         
                                         Yeah, that is so true.
                                         
    
                                         You talked about growing up
                                         
                                         and that your mom was a seamstress
                                         
                                         and they bartered for you to go to private school.
                                         
                                         Did you, I always look at my past
                                         
                                         and the journey that God has put us on
                                         
                                         and then how everything that we learned
                                         
                                         along the way ends up.
                                         
                                         In your toolbox, right?
                                         
    
                                         Literally, so you made all the,
                                         
                                         I mean, you used to make wardrobe for the Destiny's Child
                                         
                                         and I just thought that was so cool.
                                         
                                         I'm like, oh my goodness, her mom makes all these outfits.
                                         
                                         That was so cool, but it's amazing now
                                         
                                         to hear in the backstory that your mother
                                         
                                         was also a seamstress.
                                         
                                         Yeah, she was a seamstress.
                                         
    
                                         And also, you know, just even like,
                                         
                                         I think about it in my modeling,
                                         
                                         you know, I was able to teach the girls how to walk
                                         
                                         and how to present themselves
                                         
                                         and how to look good in their clothes
                                         
                                         and that type of thing.
                                         
                                         From my hair salon,
                                         
                                         just doing interviews and that type of thing.
                                         
    
                                         Everything that I've ever learned
                                         
                                         and I've done in my life,
                                         
                                         I've been able to apply it to to them. You
                                         
                                         know so it's been great. You've done it very well we see it. Yes I'm really good
                                         
                                         friends with Angie, your niece and I see and she plays in a salon on a
                                         
                                         show that we're on together, Sisters, and it's so cool how like we'll be studying
                                         
                                         together and she'll talk about what's going on in the scripts and she goes
                                         
                                         this isn't right we wouldn't do this I was was raising a salon. She was raising a salon.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, she was right there.
                                         
                                         Yes, I love that.
                                         
                                         And I feel like salons are so,
                                         
                                         so much a part of our history as black women.
                                         
                                         It's therapy, it's spiritual, it's camaraderie.
                                         
                                         It's just woman power.
                                         
                                         It is, yeah.
                                         
                                         Now, fast forward, you have your own hair care products named sacred with your daughter,
                                         
    
                                         Beyonce. Actually, they're Beyonce's product. It seems like it's your...
                                         
                                         I'm working with it. Yeah. Well, of course, I've had a lot to do with it, but that's her product.
                                         
                                         Okay. Awesome. So what has that been like for the family? It seems like it's a collective project. It absolutely is from on down
                                         
                                         the testing on Blue and Rumi and you know everybody in the family and their input but mainly the
                                         
                                         experience from my salon because we got to get years and years of experience and I knew what was
                                         
                                         needed and what was missing in the market because you know when know, when I had my salon, I had to buy high-end white products
                                         
                                         and mix them with things that I knew that we needed
                                         
                                         for our hair, like olive oil and egg whites and avocado.
                                         
    
                                         So, Angie can tell you,
                                         
                                         I was always mixing up these concoctions.
                                         
                                         And so this started a long time ago.
                                         
                                         But I feel like we needed one product that you could
                                         
                                         get the high tech science and all of those ingredients and somebody that understood mixing
                                         
                                         those together in one product because you can't have one without the other.
                                         
                                         And education, just a lot of education about how to use the products and how to balance
                                         
                                         protein with moisture and things
                                         
    
                                         that people we take for granted but people don't know. I'm gonna have to
                                         
                                         come by and you can do my hair. You gotta come by or I can't wait. Yes get your hands in these. I got a lot of hair now. I know you do.
                                         
                                         Oh yeah cause I think Ed she said I'm gonna send this picture. She said take a picture and send it to my auntie. It's a lot of. So I feel sorry for anybody who has to wash it and comb through it.
                                         
                                         No, it'll be a pleasure.
                                         
                                         Thank you so much.
                                         
                                         A lot of people think things like that happen overnight.
                                         
                                         How many years did it take for you guys
                                         
                                         to really get it down to a science?
                                         
    
                                         You know, it's funny,
                                         
                                         cause I say that it took probably 20 years,
                                         
                                         but we've been working on a product for six years
                                         
                                         and we worked on it for a while and then we stopped
                                         
                                         because it's a very time consuming thing when you are,
                                         
                                         you know, anybody can go and get some products
                                         
                                         and say this is what I want the product to do,
                                         
                                         this is what I, but not with this bunch.
                                         
    
                                         Because we grew up, you know, they grew up in a hair salon
                                         
                                         and I've studied all the science of,
                                         
                                         I knew what I was looking for.
                                         
                                         So where, as people send products back
                                         
                                         maybe three or four times,
                                         
                                         this is very expensive to produce
                                         
                                         and for you to go through all the scientific tests
                                         
                                         and all that and then they give the product to us
                                         
    
                                         and B would say, you don't have enough slip in it.
                                         
                                         Yeah, we gotta have a slip.
                                         
                                         It's not moisturizing enough.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         And I would be like, how much protein is it?
                                         
                                         Is it an easily absorbable protein?
                                         
                                         Will it be easy for people to use?
                                         
                                         It's so many things that go into hair products.
                                         
    
                                         They are not like makeup.
                                         
                                         Right, where you just slap a name on it.
                                         
                                         Yeah, you put your name on it,
                                         
                                         and it's kind of the same ingredients.
                                         
                                         You have to come up with your ingredients to make this,
                                         
                                         and it's a science. And and our testing has been so extensive like we test and test and
                                         
                                         test and then we bring it into our test salon and we tested on our people and
                                         
                                         ourselves. So it's been a long process but I couldn't be more proud of it and
                                         
    
                                         we have so many products coming out. Because every time there's a need, we think, oh my god, you know, we get feedback every
                                         
                                         day.
                                         
                                         I did a Zoom this morning with about 700 stylists.
                                         
                                         And the questions that they come up with and the things that they want to know, I'm like,
                                         
                                         oh wow, we need to work on a product for that because there are so many needs.
                                         
                                         Yeah, it is.
                                         
                                         And it's so many different hair types.
                                         
                                         I know for me, my bathroom, my needs. Yeah, it is. Yeah. And there's so many different hair types. Yes.
                                         
    
                                         I know for me, my bathroom, my shower,
                                         
                                         is full of different products.
                                         
                                         Products.
                                         
                                         It's not just one thing works on my hair.
                                         
                                         Right.
                                         
                                         It's like I mix this with this and to really.
                                         
                                         Yeah, and that's okay.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         As long as the products intertwine.
                                         
                                         Exactly.
                                         
                                         And they work with each other.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         If you can find a line that you like a lot of things in,
                                         
                                         especially the foundation.
                                         
                                         That's why it's called the foundation collection,
                                         
                                         because the foundation of healthy hair
                                         
    
                                         is you balancing protein with moisturizers and oils,
                                         
                                         and we need butters in our hair.
                                         
                                         It's complicated.
                                         
                                         And textured hair, but the great thing is we knew
                                         
                                         that if we conquered textured hair,
                                         
                                         that it will work on anybody.
                                         
                                         Right. Because we're the hardest. We are. You know, our different hair textures,
                                         
                                         so many different hair textures, and our hair is more thirsty, it's more dry, it's more fragile.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, when I put my hair, it holds onto water. Water? Like it takes forever for it to dry.
                                         
                                         Yes. Yeah. So I always like when they're like, oh, your hair is still wet. I'm like, I know.
                                         
                                         And it's like 24 hours later.
                                         
                                         Well, you got a lot of hair.
                                         
                                         Right.
                                         
                                         That's half the part.
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah, that's so true.
                                         
                                         We talk about the journey that it took
                                         
    
                                         to get to where you are now with the hairline,
                                         
                                         but also I feel like that applies with life.
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         And there's different parts of life.
                                         
                                         Has there been any moment where you're like,
                                         
                                         God, I'm ready for this to come to fruition,
                                         
                                         but it's taken too long?
                                         
                                         And what did you do in those moments
                                         
    
                                         where you felt like, all right I'm ready for this to come to fruition, but it's taken too long. And what did you do in those moments where you felt like,
                                         
                                         all right, Lord, what's happening here?
                                         
                                         I don't have, I have to honestly say,
                                         
                                         I have not had a lot of moments like that.
                                         
                                         And I think it's because I always have five projects
                                         
                                         I'm doing.
                                         
                                         I know that's right.
                                         
                                         You know, it's always so many things going on
                                         
    
                                         that he sends us things in the time that we are ready for.
                                         
                                         Yes. So if something is not working out and you keep trying and it's not working
                                         
                                         out then I'm not saying give up on it just keep it on a maybe put it on a
                                         
                                         back burner for a minute focus on something else and it might be just you
                                         
                                         and yourself and what you're doing in your life. And are you really doing everything that you can
                                         
                                         to manifest and to claim these things
                                         
                                         and make them happen?
                                         
                                         And then you say, oh wow,
                                         
    
                                         you know what I'm not doing enough of
                                         
                                         is centering myself and focusing.
                                         
                                         I'm just kinda so anxious for this to happen
                                         
                                         that I'm not doing my very best at it and it ain't time.
                                         
                                         But it's always so many things going on in my life
                                         
                                         that sometimes things have taken a long time.
                                         
                                         It took a long time and this isn't even me,
                                         
                                         but with Destiny's Child is a perfect example of it.
                                         
    
                                         Took from the time they were 10 till they were 15,
                                         
                                         like five
                                         
                                         years and that's a lifetime when you that young it is and they lost on star
                                         
                                         search and they got dropped by the first person then they got dropped by the
                                         
                                         second person but anything worth having is worth sticking in there but sometimes
                                         
                                         you got to go back and regroup and make yourself better. And it's not the world, it is you.
                                         
                                         Yeah, that's so true.
                                         
                                         Speaking of that, Destiny's Childhood
                                         
    
                                         is taking five years to get to a stable position.
                                         
                                         What are some things or principles
                                         
                                         that you instilled in the girls at a very young age
                                         
                                         to say, hey, I know this is tough.
                                         
                                         And you're probably like, mom,
                                         
                                         why isn't this happening right now?
                                         
                                         Because I know we look at your daughters and we're like,
                                         
                                         whoa, you know what I'm saying, they've made it.
                                         
    
                                         But what are some of those things that you instilled in them
                                         
                                         as they were growing up?
                                         
                                         To just, you know, what my parents taught me
                                         
                                         that's so valuable is that nothing comes easy good.
                                         
                                         I mean, nothing good comes easy.
                                         
                                         Like you gotta work for it.
                                         
                                         And if you wanna be successful, it's no shortcuts.
                                         
                                         You gotta put in the work. You gotta put in the work.
                                         
    
                                         You gotta put in the training. And for them, you know, losing, and they were very talented,
                                         
                                         but they just weren't ready. And so it came when it was time to come. They were too young.
                                         
                                         Now, I know financial stuff can sometimes feel confusing or even overwhelming. But listen,
                                         
                                         you got this.
                                         
                                         And guess what?
                                         
                                         Our good neighbors at State Farm are here to support Black women on this journey.
                                         
                                         They understand the importance of financial empowerment in our community.
                                         
                                         I mean, here's the thing.
                                         
    
                                         It all starts with knowledge.
                                         
                                         We got to figure out where our money's going, right?
                                         
                                         So for the next week, let's challenge ourselves to track our income and expenses.
                                         
                                         There are tons of budgeting apps and resources available, but even a simple notebook can do the
                                         
                                         trick. Knowing where your money goes is the first step to taking control. Next, let's build a budget.
                                         
                                         Remember, financial security isn't about deprivation. It's about making your money work for you.
                                         
                                         Allocate your funds towards your goals like that trip you've been dreaming of or starting your own
                                         
                                         business. Don't forget to set aside some money for emergencies too because
                                         
    
                                         life throws curveballs and you have to be prepared. Now, debt happens. I know we hate
                                         
                                         that word, but it happens. But don't beat yourself up about if you have some. The key
                                         
                                         is to manage it effectively. There are resources available to help you with debt consolidation
                                         
                                         and repayment plans. Talk to your bank or financial advisor and they can guide you in the right direction.
                                         
                                         And finally, let's invest in our future.
                                         
                                         Even small contributions towards a retirement savings plan can make a big difference down
                                         
                                         the line.
                                         
                                         I mean, think about it.
                                         
    
                                         A secure future where you can travel the world, spoil your grandkids, or finally write that
                                         
                                         book.
                                         
                                         Wow. travel the world, spoil your grandkids, or finally write that book.
                                         
                                         And so I would always say to them, just go back and work harder,
                                         
                                         just regroup and take a look.
                                         
                                         And in the meantime, have fun and balance it.
                                         
                                         Don't make that, people get so caught up
                                         
                                         in what they wanna accomplish
                                         
    
                                         that they don't have any fun,
                                         
                                         they don't have any family time.
                                         
                                         That's not good either. You gotta
                                         
                                         balance it. You gotta balance it with whatever your spirituality and your higher power is.
                                         
                                         Make them a part of it. It's so important. It is. It is. Speaking of spirituality,
                                         
                                         you have done a lot of partnership with your pastor back in Texas. What is, has your faith
                                         
                                         and spirituality, how has it guided you through your life? Oh my God.
                                         
                                         I just know that nothing good,
                                         
    
                                         everything good that happens in my life,
                                         
                                         that I believe that it is sent by God.
                                         
                                         You know, and it's like, my parents were,
                                         
                                         you know, they were devout Catholics,
                                         
                                         and one thing they taught me is that
                                         
                                         that's a part of the whole picture.
                                         
                                         If you don't have God or spirituality
                                         
                                         or like I said, a higher power,
                                         
    
                                         I'm not saying one particular religion over,
                                         
                                         I'm not talking about religion.
                                         
                                         I'm talking about somebody that when everything
                                         
                                         is going wrong, you can lean on.
                                         
                                         Other than your mama and your sister and your brother,
                                         
                                         because we're only here for a time.
                                         
                                         But God is always with you.
                                         
                                         I was taught that from an early age,
                                         
    
                                         and I think that that has guided me through that,
                                         
                                         and also to whom much is given, much is required.
                                         
                                         So I was taught very early to tithe,
                                         
                                         to give back, to balance it.
                                         
                                         And there are times in my life when I got away from that.
                                         
                                         You know, and I'm like all about myself,
                                         
                                         especially in my 20s.
                                         
                                         I'm like, you know, I'm popping, I'm going out,
                                         
    
                                         I'm partying, I'm having fun.
                                         
                                         And it was not about giving back.
                                         
                                         And those times in my life were challenging
                                         
                                         and they were harder.
                                         
                                         You can see it.
                                         
                                         Yeah, and you can see it.
                                         
                                         And I can see when I get away from centering myself,
                                         
                                         away from my prayers, away from my giving back
                                         
    
                                         and taking the time to do that,
                                         
                                         that things don't go so well.
                                         
                                         So, you know, I believe that to be true for myself. And so I just try to keep it where
                                         
                                         I give back constantly. I try to be positive. I try to be, you know, a good person. And
                                         
                                         it's just worked for me because things just come to me all the time. I've never been broke.
                                         
                                         I've never been, you know, had really, really bad financial times,
                                         
                                         and I believe that that's because I tithed.
                                         
                                         You know?
                                         
    
                                         Yes, yes.
                                         
                                         No, I'm telling you, I have,
                                         
                                         there was a moment in my life
                                         
                                         where it was really, really hard for me,
                                         
                                         and to the point where tithing was a struggle,
                                         
                                         because I'm like, Lord, I ain't really got it to give.
                                         
                                         Right.
                                         
                                         You know?
                                         
    
                                         And I remember, I think I was making $600 every two weeks.
                                         
                                         And this is when I first moved to Atlanta to pursue music and acting.
                                         
                                         So this was 2009, not that long ago. And I remember sitting in church and I was
                                         
                                         like, all right, I'm going to give you this $60, you know what I'm saying?
                                         
                                         But I know I can do a lot more with this. And the very next day, a friend of mine
                                         
                                         was like, hey, I got $600 for you. I said, my Lord, I said, okay, I get it.
                                         
                                         Literally, yeah.
                                         
                                         Isn't it crazy how he will,
                                         
    
                                         as soon as you put your faith in him and give him what,
                                         
                                         because all of it's his anyway.
                                         
                                         That's right.
                                         
                                         But when you give him what he asked for,
                                         
                                         he's gonna continue to provide.
                                         
                                         And those moments where I was not giving,
                                         
                                         I even hired my manager, Janora,
                                         
                                         because I saw that she had made a post about tithing.
                                         
    
                                         And I was like, if she tithes, I was like,
                                         
                                         no, I can trust her to manage me and my money
                                         
                                         and all those things.
                                         
                                         Because if you don't think that's important,
                                         
                                         then I really can't trust you.
                                         
                                         You don't know what to tell.
                                         
                                         Right, yeah.
                                         
                                         Well, you know it's interesting,
                                         
    
                                         because when I was little, we were very poor.
                                         
                                         And I was told all the time, we can't afford it.
                                         
                                         Every time my mom, I would say, we can't afford it. Because all the time, we can't afford it. Like every time my mom, I would say, we can't afford it.
                                         
                                         Because that was always, we can't afford,
                                         
                                         you know, your clarinet for you to be in a band.
                                         
                                         We can't afford you to go to dance class.
                                         
                                         We can't afford all the things that I wanted to do.
                                         
                                         And, you know, but my mom would put that money in church.
                                         
    
                                         And I'd be like, you know what I could do with that money? And you're always saying we don't have money, but you always that money in church. You know what it'd be like. And I'd be like, you know what I could do with that money?
                                         
                                         And you're always saying we don't have money,
                                         
                                         but you always put money in church.
                                         
                                         We're poor.
                                         
                                         We can't afford to put the money in church.
                                         
                                         And she said, Teeny.
                                         
                                         Teeny.
                                         
                                         Yeah, they call me Teeny.
                                         
    
                                         She said, that is how we make it.
                                         
                                         That's how we eat.
                                         
                                         That's how we live.
                                         
                                         And you gotta understand that,
                                         
                                         that's how we're making it.
                                         
                                         And when I think back on it,
                                         
                                         my dad was sort of disabled
                                         
                                         because he had no hearing in his left ear
                                         
    
                                         and he couldn't see in his right eye
                                         
                                         because he was in a mind exposure.
                                         
                                         So he could only work certain jobs at his job.
                                         
                                         And there were times when we got $45 a week,
                                         
                                         which is what they called the pennies,
                                         
                                         but it's unemployment.
                                         
                                         Because if it wasn't work,
                                         
                                         you could apply for unemployment.
                                         
    
                                         $45 a week with a family of seven people.
                                         
                                         And we made it all the time.
                                         
                                         Because, and so I didn't understand it when I was young,
                                         
                                         I was still pissed.
                                         
                                         But when I got older, I understood
                                         
                                         that that's what she was talking about.
                                         
                                         Because how did we manage to live
                                         
                                         and be very fashionable,
                                         
    
                                         even though we didn't have any money,
                                         
                                         we were sharp all the time, we never went hungry.
                                         
                                         And I really didn't even realize how poor I was
                                         
                                         till I got older.
                                         
                                         Yeah, so that's how we made it.
                                         
                                         Wow, I love it.
                                         
                                         That is beautiful, that's beautiful.
                                         
                                         There's other things that you've done
                                         
    
                                         besides having your own hair salon,
                                         
                                         but you were also big in fashion.
                                         
                                         You had House of Darion and Miss Tina by Tina Knowles.
                                         
                                         How exciting was that to take everything
                                         
                                         that you learned from your mom and create your own lines?
                                         
                                         Oh, it was so much fun. You know, House of Darion was, it was amazing because it was really
                                         
                                         kind of was born because of the fans asking where can we get this and we want the clothes and
                                         
                                         it was such a fun time for us and you know it's defunct now because we decided to give it up because we just didn't have the right partners
                                         
    
                                         and they just had a whole different direction
                                         
                                         for the brand than we did.
                                         
                                         They wanted it to be very junior,
                                         
                                         they wanted it to be fast fashion,
                                         
                                         with logos that big everywhere,
                                         
                                         and it just got to the point where we didn't enjoy it.
                                         
                                         But it was a very successful brand. I have I definitely have. You had some?
                                         
                                         Yes I did and it made my booty look good. That's right because the jeans were
                                         
    
                                         darted they were the first darted jeans and I took all those tricks of tailoring from my mom
                                         
                                         and put them in the jeans and I don't think it's any they were some of the top jeans to fit
                                         
                                         our behinds. They were yeah yeah, they were made for us.
                                         
                                         And to give you a nice shape, you know?
                                         
                                         But yeah, it's passion, I've always had a passion
                                         
                                         for fashion, my nephew Johnny and I used to design
                                         
                                         our own clothes, we always voted the best dress,
                                         
                                         we were, you know, just always sharp,
                                         
    
                                         and that's the funny thing, being that poor
                                         
                                         made me more
                                         
                                         creative. Yes, yes. You know so my mom's excuse was always well you can't have
                                         
                                         the whatever the jeans were jeans weren't the big thing but like certain styles
                                         
                                         that I wanted and she was like yours is much better because it's more creative
                                         
                                         yeah and I'll be like that's she just telling me that because she don't want to
                                         
                                         spend money to buy it for me.
                                         
                                         But it turned out to challenge us to really,
                                         
    
                                         not just go to the stores and buy stuff,
                                         
                                         but to look in Vogue magazine.
                                         
                                         The top magazine and try to copy those things.
                                         
                                         And so it gave me a really great knowledge of fashion.
                                         
                                         And I appreciate that.
                                         
                                         Yeah, now do you have any plans to create another line?
                                         
                                         No.
                                         
                                         You don't wait until she's like no.
                                         
    
                                         Fashion is, you know, it's really, really hard.
                                         
                                         I love these products because the products
                                         
                                         are transforming people's hair.
                                         
                                         Like, I just can't wait till you use it.
                                         
                                         You'll see the difference.
                                         
                                         No, I already have.
                                         
                                         I've seen the difference, even with the deep conditioner
                                         
                                         in between my protective styles.
                                         
    
                                         The rice water kind of, what's the correct word?
                                         
                                         It's rice and rose.
                                         
                                         Rice and rose, yes.
                                         
                                         Rice and rose water.
                                         
                                         It makes my hair feel so good.
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         No, I love it, yeah.
                                         
                                         Well good.
                                         
    
                                         I mean, but the products are, I'm very, very excited about that
                                         
                                         and I just want to expand it to styling products and all of that.
                                         
                                         So that's what I'm most passionate about right now in terms of products or projects, I'd say.
                                         
                                         I love that.
                                         
                                         Your grandson, Jules, we actually share the same birthday.
                                         
                                         Really?
                                         
                                         Oh, wow.
                                         
                                         Yeah, that's how Angie remembers my birthday.
                                         
    
                                         Because she's like, oh, you and Jules
                                         
                                         have the same birthday.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         And you got a very sweet demeanor like him too.
                                         
                                         He's a sweetheart. Yeah, I met him Josie have the same birthday. Yeah. And you got a very sweet demeanor like him, too. He's a sweetheart.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I met him at one of the shows Angie introduced us.
                                         
                                         Oh, OK.
                                         
                                         And she's like, this your birthday, Twenton.
                                         
    
                                         But yeah, I see that he is now modeling.
                                         
                                         How does that make you feel to see your grandson just like,
                                         
                                         he's in Paris, like, doing the big shows?
                                         
                                         Yeah, he just got back.
                                         
                                         I mean, he loves it.
                                         
                                         And I'm just so happy that he has found his thing.
                                         
                                         You know, he loves fashion
                                         
                                         and he's working on a fashion line that was really good.
                                         
    
                                         It's a streetwear line.
                                         
                                         And he's been working on it for the last couple of years.
                                         
                                         And so I think that's a natural progression
                                         
                                         for him to go into modeling.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Absolutely. Yeah. He's killing it.
                                         
                                         And when I saw the fashion week last fall, I was like, okay, I see what we're doing here.
                                         
                                         Yeah, that's amazing.
                                         
    
                                         And then Blue Ivy took the world by storm
                                         
                                         during the Renaissance tour.
                                         
                                         With her dance.
                                         
                                         I think I went to like five shows.
                                         
                                         Oh wow, that's awesome.
                                         
                                         Me and Ty, we went to the first two in Sweden,
                                         
                                         in Stockholm, and then I went again in Amsterdam.
                                         
                                         Wow. And then I went to like three shows in Atlanta.
                                         
    
                                         See, he was keeping you from us
                                         
                                         because he came to the very first show.
                                         
                                         And I got to hang out with him.
                                         
                                         You were there?
                                         
                                         Yeah, I was in the prayer circle
                                         
                                         for the very first show.
                                         
                                         Like I literally landed.
                                         
                                         Cause I wasn't coming cause I had to do,
                                         
    
                                         oh, I was prepping to film.
                                         
                                         We were going back for sisters.
                                         
                                         And cause that was in May, like in, yeah, during the summer,
                                         
                                         going into summer.
                                         
                                         And he's like, Christian, you're not coming?
                                         
                                         I was like, nah, so they, the crew flew over there.
                                         
                                         And he was like, I think Eve or somebody, he's like, see,
                                         
                                         Eve just went to my bathroom.
                                         
    
                                         He's like, if you were here, this would have never happened.
                                         
                                         Cause they were on his jet.
                                         
                                         And I was like, okay.
                                         
                                         And then he was like, can you please come?
                                         
                                         And I was like, all right.
                                         
                                         So his, Jodie booked me a flight to go. That's so great. And I landed and they were
                                         
                                         Malcolm Hedgeskew was like they're about to pray if you want to make the
                                         
                                         circle so I was like running into their redhead. You ran into the prayer circle. I didn't know that.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah that was that first show I was still in that wardrobe room till the last
                                         
                                         second trying to get those clothes out. So you still do that like you still help her be?
                                         
                                         Yeah what I do is on the last tour,
                                         
                                         Beyonce said, well, I think that, you know, she had a short period of time and she said, I want two stylists.
                                         
                                         And I said, you know, we're going to get four because we have so I actually found the stylists, put them together, managed to gave them the budgets.
                                         
                                         And, you know, oversaw the whole project.
                                         
                                         So, yeah, I love that you still. But I still got to get in there and sew something sometimes. gave on the budgets and oversaw the whole project. So yeah.
                                         
                                         I love that you still.
                                         
    
                                         But I still gotta get in there and sew something sometime
                                         
                                         and make it fit or hem some pants or do whatever.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I love it though, it's fun.
                                         
                                         I love that.
                                         
                                         Now I remember you made a comment about,
                                         
                                         I think it was you that you were kind of hesitant
                                         
                                         when they said that Blue was gonna perform.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         Well, I wasn't hesitant.
                                         
                                         Beyonce was hesitant. B was, okay. Yeah, and she I wasn't hesitant. Beyonce was hesitant.
                                         
                                         B was, okay.
                                         
                                         Yeah, and she was like,
                                         
                                         Blue, cause she just didn't want the pressure on her,
                                         
                                         cause she knows what that brings.
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         You know, and people are, you know,
                                         
    
                                         they can be very cruel.
                                         
                                         And she was like,
                                         
                                         I just don't want her to get caught up in this.
                                         
                                         I want her to decide on her own what she wants to do.
                                         
                                         And so Blue kept asking,
                                         
                                         cause everyday Blue rehearsed with all the dancers.
                                         
                                         And I was like, she can do it.
                                         
                                         She is killing it.
                                         
    
                                         And then, Beyonce said, okay, I'm going to let you do one city.
                                         
                                         I'll let you do Paris.
                                         
                                         And once she did it, that was supposed to be a one-time thing.
                                         
                                         You know, people were so evil at me, saying all these comments.
                                         
                                         And so, one of her friends told her about the comments and it was such a life
                                         
                                         lesson for her because she was very upset about it and her mom said well you
                                         
                                         know you can let them win and you can just give up and and say you'll never do
                                         
                                         it again but if I were you I'll go work harder and I would get out there and
                                         
    
                                         kill it and shut them up.
                                         
                                         She did.
                                         
                                         And she did just that.
                                         
                                         You could see the, her like, every single show.
                                         
                                         I was like, oh yeah.
                                         
                                         She worked hard though.
                                         
                                         Because I mean, Blue at the time was 11,
                                         
                                         and you know, most of the dancers are at least 20, 25,
                                         
    
                                         some of them 30, they've been doing this forever.
                                         
                                         And they were amazed that she could keep up
                                         
                                         and learn the choreography and have her own little swag
                                         
                                         and her own style.
                                         
                                         She reminded me of Solange,
                                         
                                         because Solange did the same thing.
                                         
                                         She started, yeah, she started dancing
                                         
                                         with Destiny's Child when she was 13,
                                         
    
                                         because Kelly broke her toe.
                                         
                                         Wow.
                                         
                                         And when Kelly broke her toe,
                                         
                                         we were like,
                                         
                                         we can't stop the show.
                                         
                                         So I studded Kelly's whole boot.
                                         
                                         And she sat on the studded stool and song
                                         
                                         and Solange danced for her in the same costume.
                                         
    
                                         So yeah, when she was 13 and I was so worried about her
                                         
                                         cause I was like, she's only 13 and everybody's grown.
                                         
                                         And she got out there and kept up with them. Sometimes she'll cry you know
                                         
                                         she would be in high altitudes and say I can't do this and I'm like yes you can.
                                         
                                         You signed up you got to finish it. Yeah because that is my philosophy you don't
                                         
                                         have to do anything but if you sign up for it you got to finish. You cannot quit.
                                         
                                         My dad was always like that bad foodie. He was like, get all you want, but eat all you get.
                                         
                                         Eat all you get.
                                         
    
                                         That's right.
                                         
                                         If you're going to sign up for it,
                                         
                                         you have to go 100%.
                                         
                                         You got to keep it going.
                                         
                                         Wow.
                                         
                                         And speaking of Solange, Solange has found her own voice.
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         I love that.
                                         
    
                                         Because I've seen her evolution as well.
                                         
                                         And how proud does it make you to see both of your daughters
                                         
                                         thriving in their own space?
                                         
                                         I've always been proud of them, not only for show business,
                                         
                                         but just as being good human beings.
                                         
                                         And that's most important.
                                         
                                         But their success has been great to watch, too,
                                         
                                         because they work so hard.
                                         
    
                                         My girls work hard.
                                         
                                         They do, yeah.
                                         
                                         Nothing is given to them, so I'm proud of that.
                                         
                                         That's amazing.
                                         
                                         Do you ever wake up some mornings and be like, wow, my kids are amazing.
                                         
                                         You know, like, because you're, Beyonce is like one of the biggest superstars in the
                                         
                                         world.
                                         
                                         Yeah, for sure.
                                         
    
                                         Like, do you ever wake up and be like, that came out of me?
                                         
                                         Not really, but people say it to me all the time. And I have thought about it, but you know, again,
                                         
                                         I mean, I just feel so blessed to have the kids
                                         
                                         that I have, and Kelly too, because Kelly.
                                         
                                         I love Kelly.
                                         
                                         Yeah, Kelly, that's my baby.
                                         
                                         She's everything.
                                         
                                         Because you know, Kelly is the same.
                                         
    
                                         I mean, just the best work ethic and the best person.
                                         
                                         She is.
                                         
                                         Still remains the sweetest, kindest, you know, generous
                                         
                                         person and that's that's not easy. You know, it's not easy in this business.
                                         
                                         That's why again I was so impressed that you want to do something called positive.
                                         
                                         You know, because this business can chew you up and spit you out. It can make it
                                         
                                         really hard. Yes, it really can. I was talking to a friend of mine yesterday just about how certain circumstances can really
                                         
                                         cause you to be guarded.
                                         
    
                                         It almost makes you cold.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         It means.
                                         
                                         To protect yourself.
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         Because you have to protect yourself because, you know, it's a lot of beasts out there,
                                         
                                         you know, in this business.
                                         
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                                         Really scared, you know scared when the girls got in
                                         
                                         and I became so involved in their careers
                                         
                                         and people think it's because I'm a stage mother
                                         
    
                                         but it was because I wanted to earn my keep
                                         
                                         and I wanted to watch them and protect them
                                         
                                         because it's a scary thing
                                         
                                         to try to keep them grounded.
                                         
                                         Saying, oh no, no, no, they can pick up their bags,
                                         
                                         their hands not broken. Look people in the eye when you walk into a hotel I don't care
                                         
                                         if it's two o'clock in the morning that is that person treat them kind so I was
                                         
                                         around to do those things you know and I know that that's why they have been able
                                         
    
                                         to stay I'm not the only reason but a big part of part of it is just staying
                                         
                                         grounded you know somebody to pop you upside your head not not but you know let you know when you
                                         
                                         when you getting a little diva them going on you know yeah that's good
                                         
                                         everybody needs a moment to me like yeah yeah I have good people around me that
                                         
                                         say all right you know always that's one thing Tyler did instilling me because
                                         
                                         when I was styling him I didn't understand because I've once been an actor, I wanted to sing and then he offers
                                         
                                         me this job and I'm like, this is not what I was trying to do, Lord.
                                         
                                         That is amazing.
                                         
    
                                         Yes, but then I prayed about it and I was like, okay, I'm going to do this.
                                         
                                         Oh, you're saying the styling, he offered you the job to style, but what a way into
                                         
                                         it.
                                         
                                         Exactly.
                                         
                                         But I didn't know that at first.
                                         
                                         I was just like, I just said, God, just order my steps.
                                         
                                         Like, if this is what you want me to do, I'm gonna do it and you will make room for whatever I really
                                         
                                         want to do, if that's in your will. And everything that I learned in those five years of being that
                                         
    
                                         close to Tyler have helped me, like literally step into the shoes I'm in today. That's right. Yeah. The same with Angie. I feel like all that time of being around show business
                                         
                                         and it was just tools that she can pull out
                                         
                                         because she knew how it went.
                                         
                                         So it was an easy transition.
                                         
                                         It was.
                                         
                                         It's very evident when she's on set.
                                         
                                         She knows even from hair in the hair.
                                         
                                         It's so funny.
                                         
    
                                         Well, yeah.
                                         
                                         There's a whole thing that the hairstylist says,
                                         
                                         do not put no concealer on Angie's part.
                                         
                                         They came in there and tried to put, she said,
                                         
                                         oh, I don't want that.
                                         
                                         Oh, I know.
                                         
                                         Angie had me cracking up,
                                         
                                         but she knows because she's been around it for so long.
                                         
    
                                         Even on set, she knows the camera,
                                         
                                         she knows how things are supposed to look.
                                         
                                         So it transitions onto set,
                                         
                                         and you can tell that she's been around it all her life.
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         Yeah, but she's still kind, still sweet and grounded.
                                         
                                         Like you say, she doesn't come in there acting like a diva.
                                         
                                         Right.
                                         
    
                                         And I feel like every one that I've met, I haven't met Solange, but Bea, Kelly and Angie, all who all came under you, you can see this.
                                         
                                         So that's also a reflection of you and the things that you taught them because even when you're not around, they are as sweet as can be.
                                         
                                         Yeah, and treat everybody good.
                                         
                                         Yeah, so that's an O to you.
                                         
                                         Yeah, no for sure.
                                         
                                         Miss Cedar, thank you so much.
                                         
                                         Thank you, this was wonderful.
                                         
                                         Yes, I appreciate you making time and stopping by.
                                         
    
                                         We do something at the end of our show
                                         
                                         called Positive Outcomes.
                                         
                                         So if you can hang out with me just for a little bit longer, this is where our listeners
                                         
                                         write in and we just give them a little advice.
                                         
                                         So this one says, Hi Crystal, I'm a 52 year old mother of a 31 year old son.
                                         
                                         I have two grandchildren who are 6 and 11.
                                         
                                         Our family loves hard and enjoys creating memories with one another.
                                         
                                         Long story short, I was a single mother raising my son while also taking care of my sickly parents for 19 years. In 2002, my father
                                         
    
                                         had a massive stroke and I had a stroke one month later. We recuperated together.
                                         
                                         In 2008, I lost my father but my mom remained with me and we have some great
                                         
                                         years together, nurturing her to health emotionally and mentally because she
                                         
                                         loved and missed my dad.
                                         
                                         My mom battled with Parkinson's disease and did not walk for the last 11 years. God restored me
                                         
                                         by taking the best care of her until her death last November. Unfortunately, the last three years
                                         
                                         of my health declined because of the stress of working 40 to 50 hours a week coming home to care
                                         
                                         for my mom, which sometimes had me up all night and having to repeat it the next day.
                                         
    
                                         Heart failure and my recovery plan has given me a fresh start and I'm ready to start dating
                                         
                                         again.
                                         
                                         Do you have any dating tips that you can share?"
                                         
                                         Well, girl, you asking the wrong person because, geez, that part of my life is non-existent.
                                         
                                         Okay?
                                         
                                         I'm still trying to figure it out.
                                         
                                         I don't believe that.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         No, it is. it's really hard.
                                         
                                         I think too just knowing who the right people are
                                         
                                         and why they're in your life makes it harder for me.
                                         
                                         Right, yeah, and you've been discerning,
                                         
                                         which is very good.
                                         
                                         Yes, yes.
                                         
                                         But I feel like, I don't get your name,
                                         
                                         but if you are ready for a fresh start
                                         
    
                                         and you feel like you're ready to get back out there,
                                         
                                         I would one, just pray that God opens your heart for the right person.
                                         
                                         You know, a lot of times when we haven't dated for a long time, we can be open to just anything.
                                         
                                         So I would say, like you said, discernment, use your discernment and make sure the person
                                         
                                         is right for you, spend time with people and date.
                                         
                                         I feel like a lot of times we meet one person and I'm like, oh, this is my husband.
                                         
                                         Like no, date people to really kind of filter out the ones that are not for you and then decide, okay, I'm like, oh, this is my husband. Like, no, date people to really kind of filter out
                                         
                                         the ones that are not for you and then decide,
                                         
    
                                         okay, I really like this person.
                                         
                                         What would you say, Miss Tina?
                                         
                                         I agree with everything you said.
                                         
                                         And I think one of the things is that, you know,
                                         
                                         we talked about manifestation,
                                         
                                         and I think you gotta manifest what you want
                                         
                                         and be very, very picky about it and pray for what you want.
                                         
                                         But also get out there and open your heart. what you want and be very, very picky about it and pray for what you want.
                                         
    
                                         But also get out there and open your heart.
                                         
                                         My best friend decided she was going to get her a man.
                                         
                                         She hadn't had a man in 15 years because she got divorced.
                                         
                                         She told me within six months I'm going to have a man.
                                         
                                         I was like, yeah, right.
                                         
                                         She absolutely did because she started opening herself up to it.
                                         
                                         She started going to social events, you know after church
                                         
                                         She didn't rush out. She tried to meet people so she was just determined and within six months
                                         
    
                                         She had a really good man probably four months. She had a really good man. They've been married for now
                                         
                                         eight years what and
                                         
                                         Yeah, so you can manifest but you got to get out there because if you're just going to work and coming home Probably ain't gonna happen. That's me like it's gonna break into your house. Yeah, so you can manifest but you got to get out there because if you're just going to work and coming home
                                         
                                         Probably ain't gonna happen. That's me. Like it's gonna break into your house. Yeah, right
                                         
                                         I'm sorry
                                         
                                         But like that's the ongoing. No, this is like you don't leave the house. Right? I'm like, okay
                                         
                                         Hey, are you here for me?
                                         
                                         Well, you know social events
                                         
    
                                         Volunteer now that she's free, she can volunteer
                                         
                                         for some organizations.
                                         
                                         And what better way to meet somebody who cares
                                         
                                         about people than in an organization that's charitable.
                                         
                                         That's so true.
                                         
                                         I think that's where I'm going.
                                         
                                         I love that.
                                         
                                         Okay, I know that's right.
                                         
    
                                         We can go to some charity events together.
                                         
                                         That's right.
                                         
                                         I told, it was probably like a month ago,
                                         
                                         I was in Miami and I was talking
                                         
                                         to a friend of mine and I was like I am not spending another holiday by myself and I was like
                                         
                                         I said God you got it till July 4th. That's quick. And that's in a week. Oh so you're gonna meet
                                         
                                         somebody this week. You're gonna meet somebody this week. We praying for it Miss Teeter. That's right.
                                         
                                         Well you're a beautiful spiritual talented young woman and it's coming. I feel it's coming. That's right. Yes. Well, you're a beautiful, spiritual, talented young woman and it's coming.
                                         
    
                                         I feel it's coming. Yeah. It is. Thank you so much.
                                         
                                         Two of the last things we do is we ask our guests what I'm going through and what I'm growing through.
                                         
                                         Okay. Can you share with us something that you may be going through just to inspire people
                                         
                                         in this season? I think what I'm going through is,
                                         
                                         I've been going through losing my siblings.
                                         
                                         And that's a tough one because it started off
                                         
                                         with seven of us and now it's only three.
                                         
                                         And I lost my brother a couple months ago.
                                         
    
                                         And all of a sudden it just hit me, I'm 70 years old.
                                         
                                         I can't believe it.
                                         
                                         Well, thank you, but you know it comes that time.
                                         
                                         It's that time in my life and that I'm going through it and I'm growing through it because
                                         
                                         what I decided is that the two that I have left I'm going to make a lot of time for and I'm going
                                         
                                         to spend the time with them and not let so much time pass because I've been negligent with trying to see my
                                         
                                         family and now I'm sad because my brother's gone and I haven't spent as much time. But
                                         
                                         that's what I'm growing through, you know, is just trying to pray and not be sad about
                                         
    
                                         it. It's tough. It is. Angie has shared with me about your brother. Yeah. And I was at
                                         
                                         her house one day and I don't know what maybe I was
                                         
                                         about to start appearing to someone but she was showing me how it's on the video like
                                         
                                         on the camera that she can see him and I literally just started crying yeah and she's like I'm
                                         
                                         sorry but like just no even my dad is 70 71 now 71 and knowing that life is fleeting and
                                         
                                         like I want to spend as much time with him as I can. You know, and even that and what she's going through
                                         
                                         has shown me I've got to make the most of these years.
                                         
                                         You got to make the most of those years.
                                         
    
                                         And like her dad is, you know, I want to say he's like 77,
                                         
                                         but he's blind and he, you know,
                                         
                                         he has a lot of health issues.
                                         
                                         So he was just at my house yesterday.
                                         
                                         That's how I'm growing is to have him over Sunday. I love the jacuzzi in the pool and we had barbecue
                                         
                                         and you know and I'm gonna make the best of the time that I have left with them.
                                         
                                         I love that. That's amazing. Thank you so much. This was wonderful.
                                         
                                         So we do a thing called keep it blank sweetie.
                                         
    
                                         Keep it blank?
                                         
                                         Where we fill in the blank.
                                         
                                         Right.
                                         
                                         So I'm going to say keep it pushing sweetie because no matter what life throws at you,
                                         
                                         you just got to keep going.
                                         
                                         That's right.
                                         
                                         How would you fill in the blank?
                                         
                                         I think I would say keep it moving which is kind of the same thing.
                                         
    
                                         You know just keep moving no matter what's kind of the same thing. You know, just keep moving,
                                         
                                         no matter what's going on in your life.
                                         
                                         It's, it's, it's two shall pass.
                                         
                                         Yes. I love that.
                                         
                                         Thank you so much, Miss Tina.
                                         
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                                         In the meantime, in between time, you know what to do.
                                         
                                         Keep it positive, sweetie.
                                         
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