Keep it Positive, Sweetie - Career, Personal Growth + Residuals w/ Jacob Latimore

Episode Date: April 27, 2025

This week on Keep It Positive, Sweetie, I’m sitting down with the multi-talented Jacob Latimore — actor, singer, and all-around creative force. From starring in hit series like The Chi to building a dynamic music career, Jacob opens up about balancing both worlds, staying grounded in the spotlight, and the lessons he’s learned along the way. We dive into the source of his creativity, personal growth, and what keeps him motivated through every new chapter. This conversation is full of inspiration, real talk, and gems you don’t want to miss. Tap in, take notes, and be sure to share this episode with someone who could use a little positivity this week!

Calling all my sweeties to the forefront, I'm your host, Crystal Renee Hazlett, and this is the Keep It Posit Sweetie Show. Welcome to another episode of the Keep It Posit Sweetie Show. I'm your host, Crystal Renee Hazlett, and today we are joined by Multihyphenate Talent. He is an actor, singer, songwriter, known for his virtual talents in both entertainment and music. Kids family, please welcome Jacob Latimore. Jacob, thank you so much for coming.

Thank you for having me. Finally, how are you feeling? I love these CB2 seats. You want to get you some? You know, we like a little affordable, good price points. That's right. Comfortable. Uh-huh.

Got to keep it cozy. Yes, absolutely. Thank you. How are you feeling? I feel good. I feel good. Just back home. Been filming the show for like eight months last year.

So just enjoying home, you know, yeah, not leaving. I'm telling you about it. It's always fascinating because I'm in the Tyler Perry ecosystem and we shoot 22 episodes in two weeks. Insane. And to hear you shooting for eight months, I feel like I would get bored. I'm like, what's that? I feel like I would get bored though. I'd be like, can we hurry up?

It's definitely a process. Like we, if I'm not on set, I'm just at home studying those lines. And then, you know, in the gym or, I don't know, doing something productive in between, but always staying on call. Cause you just never know. Even on your off days,

you never know if it bumps something up, you gotta be ready. This person didn't catch their flight or this person's sick or we need to come in. So we are ensemble. So it's just like, you gotta be ready. I love that show. It's so good. Shout out Lena and Luke James, one of my really good friends.

And I just did a movie two years ago, Burgundy. Oh yeah, Burgundy, baby. Our birthday is today. Is it? Happy birthday, Burgundy. I know this will be after your birthday, but happy burgundy. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yes. Our birthday is today. Is it happy birthday? I know this week after your birthday, but happy birthday booth Love her. But yes, I love that show but Jacob you have been doing this since you were eight years old And you're 28 now 20 so most of your life You know, so you you got a lot of skin in the game. So I've only been doing this for like five or six years So I need to pick your brain. No, you doing that

So I've only been doing this for like five or six years. So I need to pick your brain No, you doing that you doing your thing. I'm trying but I'm really proud of you. But how it started at a very young age What is that journey been like to get to where you are now? Um, it's definitely been a lot different like when I was eight years old Acting was something I wasn't even thinking about really, you know acting was like I I wasn't even thinking about really, you know acting was like I Believe I got a script handed to me. It's like they were auditioning for like the local like Lion King play. Mm-hmm They hand me a script like yeah, they audition for symbol a little Jake like little Jake Yeah, you should do this little Jake you be cold little day as I'm walking They look you be cold little day and I was like, nah

I'm a I'm on the porch like really making decisions on I'm gonna do this music thing first. Wow, at eight years old? Yeah, and I'm like nah I'm gonna do this music thing first and then I get into acting, you know, if that door open, whatever. But then I moved, a couple years later, moved to Atlanta, still doing the music thing and then I started finding other peers that weren't overthinking it. They were doing music, they were doing film, they were hosting, they were acting, whatever. And I just opened my mind up a little bit more and just got more comfortable and just was like, you know what, I'm gonna do it. And I found some

acting classes and found my first agency out here. Shout out to Joy Purvis. Oh, that was my first agency. Yes, love them. And she really believed in me and helped me get some really important projects that were pivotal in me learning on how to be on set and how to read scenes. And she would read those scenes with me too, like it was just dope. So that was a real hands-on agent. And you don't get that a lot. You know, and she had like her own self-tape room and I was doing that.

So moving to Atlanta was really just an eye-opening experience. And that's just like a testament. You know, she had like her own self-tape room and I was doing that so Moving to Atlanta was really just an eye-opening experience and I just that's just like a testament You got to be in an environment where you can thrive Yes You know what I mean? so you can you got to be around other people that are doing things that inspire you and Make you check yourself like I'm overthinking I could do I ain't got a quick absolutely don't box yourself You know, I mean I could do I ain't got a quick absolutely don't box yourself you know I mean I can do that and so that's so Atlanta was it's always just been home for me ever since then we moved out

here 20 2008 okay so yeah I came a year after y'all yeah 2000 2008 2009 okay yeah I came in 2009 I was in DC working on Capitol Hill wow and I was like I saw all my friends out here thriving. I'm like, if they can do it, I can do it. And like you, like I wanted to do music. Like that was my thing. And if acting, if music opened the door for other things, I was open to it. And then it kind of ended up being the reverse

where acting ended up opening the door for music. And it's all tied in now. So now I meet a lot of musicians like, bro, I wanna be acting. Yes, yes. And I'm like, man, you just gotta get in there, get into acting classes. I really paid my dues too with the acting.

I really got in class, I really did improv training. Yes. Like I really like, but then also the on-set experience was just alone. Yes. Like it was nothing like class either. Nothing. You can do the tongue twister, red leather, yellow leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather leather and do this line, you got Will Smith looking at you, you can do it? And I'm like, yeah. You're like, yeah.

Yeah, like, no. Why you changing my line? I've been rehearsing all night. Right. But it's cool, and it's a part of the process, and it keeps us uncomfortable, which is good for growth, right? Absolutely, I wanted to ask you about working with Will.

Will Smith is like everybody's icon. Yeah. You know, and our North Star, especially in music and acting, we just that's the place that we aim to go. What was it like working with him? I was you know, I ain't gonna lie. I was actually I was fanned out. I can imagine. I think I actually took a picture with him and then posted it online and I got an email from production saying hey, you need to take that down. He's in costume. Oh yeah, that's a thing. Oh my gosh, I almost lost a job like that

working with Jamie Foxx. I learned a lot working with him. And just watching him and also just seeing how what it takes to be that level of a brand and a celebrity. Like, you know, he's just, it was, he was like, we outside filming in New York and he's just it was he was like we outside

filming in New York and he's got to memorize his lines but he got like screaming fans on the corner you know no telling what he's dealing with in his personal life and all these things so he's just you just seeing it up close and you're like whoa how famous do I want to be you know exactly and and you're like man this is this is different level like he has to they got to roll him into the car I was I walked to anybody about you like Jayden they Jayden Smith I'm Jacob yes I'm Jay like whatever'm saying? But it was like they had to roll him into set

in the SUV and let him out right where the camera was. So he had to move different. But he was all smiles and he has good energy about it. So I definitely learned how to bring good energy to work. Love that, that's important. He shakes everybody's hand and I was like, that's what I'm gonna do. When I energy to work. Love that, that's important. He shakes everybody's hand, and I was like, that's what I'm gonna do. When I'm on set at a shot, I always remind myself,

like, I prayed to be here, even though I'm tired today, I may not feel like it today, like, I'm gonna come to set and then come to the makeup trailer, come into the hair trailer with energy, and this is a good thing. We hear this is a luxury. You know? And we're getting the best part of it as the actors,

you know, and you have to be, I worked on the other side as well as costume designer with Herman, Herman was my supervisor and understanding how tired they are as well. Like we're all exhausted, you know? Cause they're taking care of us and we're trying to deliver the lines and make the director happy. know but it's everybody's

pulling everybody's pulling so I love that you do that and I love that Will was that example for you absolutely because sometimes our icons aren't the nicest you know and you like dang yeah you like dang I should have just mm-hmm kept it kept it just kept. But they're human, you start to give grace too because you realize everybody doesn't wanna be that light, you know what I mean, that thing, you know what I mean? So it's like, hey, I don't want everybody to glorify me and be this, you know that.

They wanna just come to set, be treated normally. I give grace to a lot of actors and actresses I meet because you just never know Well, you know people are going through absolutely because we just we read these scripts and we this is our lives And we got to keep this facade and we have fans who fall in love with the shows that we're on because they're in We're in their households every day feel like they know you know you fans walk up to you like what's up? Hey, yo, I'll be watching your show. Yeah, up to you like, what's up? Hey yo, I be watching your show. You know, hey bro, what happened for real?

So they really, it feel like we family to them. You never wanna disappoint anybody in their experience. So it's like, you're like, dang, this is what I asked for. You know what I mean? I appreciate it. Yeah, you can get a picture, man. Even though I'm busted right now, I'm sleepy coming off the plane,

like whatever, like sleep all in the eye. That's cool. Yeah, it's so funny because there are, I was just talking about this actually with DaVinci about how we can, we're human, first and foremost, but we can be having the worst day, but we always have to be on, you know, no matter what, because you want that moment with that fan to be the best You know, no matter what, because you want that moment

with that fan to be the best moment. Cause I know what it's like to meet somebody that I just adore and like, oh my gosh, I just love everything you do. And they were like completely mean. It's like, oh my goodness. You have a lot of yourself. You do, you do.

It's tough, it's a tough balance. I'm at the point now, if I know I'm not in the greatest mood, I just stay home. That's smart. Just stay home. Order in. You know like literally like just stay home. Yeah. You know like it's me time. I'll go to the gym and go back go back home walk the dog. Like literally stay in the neighborhood. Yeah. So that's that's the best thing for me to do when I know I'm like, today ain't it. You're right, you're right, exactly. It ain't one of them.

Exactly. I'm not really answering the phone like that, you know what I mean? So I try to refuel myself before I even step outside that door. That's good. So speaking of refueling and balancing, how do you balance between all the mini hats that you wear? I don't know.

He's saying, he's saying, he's saying, he's saying, it feels like I'm still trying to figure that out. Like this morning I had two auditions before I came here. Wow. After this I'm going to the studio tonight to finish some touches on my album. So it's like when you just love what you do, you kind of just make time for it. You make time, yeah. And you realize like, hey, I'm the only one.

I'm the only one that has these opportunities and this is what I pray for. And like, what else I got to do today? You know what I mean? I really ain't got nothing else to do today. You know, I would just go home and eat, chill, watch movies, so let me record this record tonight, let me get it done. Then I can go on vacation.

There you go. You know what I mean? So really just dedication. Really just like no matter how you're feeling, just do it. Just do it. You know, creating that checklist. And sometimes it can feel like you're just dragging yourself all day.

And then when you finally sit down and look at the work you put in, you're just dragging yourself all day and then when you finally sit down and look at the work you put in, you're like, whoa, this is years and years of work, consistency. Very consistent, yeah. And that's the, I feel like that's the name of the game with anything that you wanna be successful in. You just gotta be consistent.

And I feel like that's where a lot of people fall short. That makes a difference between making it and not making it, is that consistency. You don't have to be the best doing what you're doing, but the ones that are consistent make it. Nah, like when I'm in the gym for two weeks, three weeks straight, and I'm like, oh yeah, I'm getting crazy. And then you get, you start, you see, you feel like you got the results. So you go to Zaxby's because you got room

and then you lose all that two, three weeks over a short week or weekend or partying and kicking it and then you like, oh man, I'm back. I'm back pot belly. So it don't take long. It take two weeks to get it off, the one chicken tender to get it back on. You're like, dang. Yeah, yeah. And it's just, it's what it's about. Yeah. And I just try to surround myself around people who are consistent. Yes just at this point like

you know friendships or even colleagues or just anything if they People around me aren't consistent in what they're doing or sticking by their word. It's kind of like man It's like we gotta cut you off Listen, no, I got to they're not moving in the same direction, you are just like all the people that are around you. And if you don't be very mindful and intentional about the people you're around, you be like, why am I, oh, because I'm around you a lot.

Because they start to rub off on you. Whether you're in that headspace or not, it's like, it's inevitable. And you try, and I think too, like, we got big hearts, so we try to help. We try to give insight. And I think all of that is cool. But I've learned to give some advice, help where I can, watch them.

If it applied, if they applied it at all, I'd leave it at that. I can't force you to, I can't force your journey on you. You know what I mean? I can only just lead by example and just through my actions. So I can give you what I can on the advice tip, but that's about it. You know, like if I'm on set and I'm saying,

hey bro, like I think you should lock in more right here and here and here. But you not receptive of it. And I'm like, I did what I could because, you know, I could be standing next to you and I could get, I could bite the bullet to you biting, you know what I mean? Because I'm just trying to save you and I can't because you're not receptive of what I'm saying.

You know and I think it took me a while to have that voice because I have been in the game since I was a kid. Like my first film set I was on when I was like 11. This show called Wontree Hill. They did like a few seasons. Sophia Bush was the director of that episode and I actually seen her pre-Golden Globes parties and every time I see her she's like wow like I seen I seen that spark in your eye at like eight nine eleven years old you know so um it took me a while to kind of have that voice of like even just being the youngest in the room if I'm in the room full of maybe up-and-coming actors who

are maybe just getting their start at 21, 22. But I'm like 17 and I don't want to be the, you know, the guy that you like. I don't want to be like, hey bro, you probably shouldn't do that. You know, hey like you probably shouldn't move like that. You know, and it took me a while. I was kind of hesitant. I was always a little shy or scared like, oh man, they might think I'm being acting funny. Right. I think I'm like, I don't know. no I just I was overthought it and now if I have the opportunity to speak and if I see somebody that got like a lot of potential and I'm like bro like you you don't like you could be more like you don't let up you know and if I could tell him I will but if I feel like they're not receptive

of it I'm just. I'm out. And the right person would be like, oh, thank you for seeing me. And I do want to lock in a do better. Most people will take, if they're in there for the right reasons and they have the right mindset, they would be grateful that you gave them that insight.

Yeah. And it's still room for me to grow. Like my agent calls me like, yeah dude, like, hey, watch these shows. Like mimic that stuff. Shout out to Dan, Dan Kim. We've been rocking, so I was like 14. So, and just been inspired by the two auditions I had today. They're just totally different and challenge me because I have been playing the shy for so long,

so sometimes it's good for me to just get other auditions that even if I don't get the part, it's just it's just a good exercise. Absolutely. You know what I mean? For like, for me to tap into different characters and stuff. I love that. You spoke on being the only one and you opened up about Survivor's Remorse on the BETs for the fellas. I want to dive more into that because that's something I love talking to my peers about because a lot of times we are the ones that made it and we carry so much weight when it comes to that. How are you navigating that now?

Just saying no, you know, just like saying no where I need to say no, you know, and realizing that I have a track record of giving. I have a history of giving and you shouldn't feel guilty because it's not like you're not a given person. It's not like I ain't got receipts. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, I helped you here, I helped you there.

You can't say I didn't help you there. And I would never ask for payback. And every time I give, some family member, I'm gonna get you back. I'm like, listen, every time I give, I'm literally on to the next I'm not even thinking about it you can have if you find it somewhere in your heart and you got and you come up on some means to whatever cool but I'm I promise you I'm not thinking about it

please like honestly if you get if you make up if you make some bread just invest in yourself please just do right by that yes all right you ain't gotta make that call to me again. You know what I'm saying? Right. You know what I mean? Like you are not in debt over here. You know what I mean? That's so good, my dad taught me that too.

You know what I mean? Yeah. So it's just, it took me a while, it took me a while to let go of that survivor's remorse and that guilt of just feeling like I have to help everybody. You know? And I'm behind on it. I'm like man. Man. If I keep helping y'all I'm gonna be behind. You know and I don't think people realize the more money you make the bigger your expenses. The bigger expenses, the more Uncle Sam takes. We're not getting a refund check.

You know and. We're paying him even more. And it's like, I have goals, I have real estate goals. I have money I'm investing into. So, you know, on the outside looking in, they keep me like, oh, he just, he was born, he was born rich, cause he been, he been- Doing this forever. He been doing this since he was eight.

Like, if I'm being honest, like, the real, real income, like really didn't come to my 20s. You know what I mean? Like my like as a teenager I was like it may have looked like, yeah, it may have looked like but trust me. Yeah, it was we were still figuring it out and you know as as you know as black people, we just we make it look good. Yeah, you know how to we know how to make it look good. Hello, you know, so and I, we just, we make it look good. You know how to make it look good. You know, so, and I'm at the space now,

I just don't want to look good. I want to be good. And when it's, when you want to be good, you got to say no, you know, I cannot, I cannot help you this in this season of my life. Sometimes you have to say no to others to say yes to yourself and yes to your future because unlike a lot of people, our jobs are not promised. You know, it could be canceled tomorrow

God for it, you know, but like we have to do everything we can now to make sure it was set up for the future Most people have some type of job security, you know, we don't have that so we have to save for the rainy day Yeah, when they say what's next like what's next? Like I don't know what's next That's what I have to do. It's the pressure of dealing with, I don't know. Like, thank God I'm on a show that I can kind of, like, I know we starting season eight, you know, but I can't just bank on that.

They say they make, they could cancel the show, God forbid, please don't, I'm not throwing that out there. But it's like, you just never know. You know, like we had a big film strike, you know? Did they not open your eyes? Like, wow. I was like, oh. Like, I'm thankful for investing in it.

I knew how to invest in real estate. I knew how to save some bread here and just stay at home and stop going to the club. And spending frivolous money, yeah. Sections is crazy. They are crazy. Bottles is crazy. Yeah, I can get the bottles at the house. I can create the vibe at the club.

And I can have my own shindig. I can stand on my own couch. You know what I'm saying? So it's like my whole mental has shifted in that space and it's literally shown in every aspect of my life, spiritually, financially, physically, mentally, I'm like, this, duh. Duh, right, right, I love it, duh.

You also spoke about something that we have in common. I don't know if your relationship status right now, but you talked about loneliness and sometimes loneliness is not a bad thing. I know for me gaining success, it was hard for me to find the right relationship that understood what all comes with this life. Even now it's like, you days when they're like,

oh my goodness, you're coming a lot. And it's a lot of amazing things, but they may not be used to the level of the amazing things. They're like, this is a lot. And then you're busy all the time, you're on the go and you have to stay focused. What was the moment where you realized, wait, being lonely is not a bad thing.

Or it's not lonely, it's just being in solitude and by yourself. What did you realize? I just come from a big family. Like I grew up in a house where my dad and my grandfather was in one house. Really? You know what I mean?

Like all my uncles, all my cousins. So I come from that type of household. When I was in school, like the whole family was in the house, eating dinner. We had big breakfasts, we had, you know what I mean? And as I get older and people are going through their own things and whatever, so I was just like, oh man, I can't bring everybody into my world

because it just don't work, it don't work like that. It don't fit, and you know when it just, it just don't work. It don't work like that. You know, it can't, it don't fit. And you know when it don't fit, you know, cause like doing, doing business with a bunch of family can work when it works. Yes. You know, like the Wayans, it works.

It works. Yes. It works. Ball brothers, it works. Yes. Yes. Smith family works. Works. Works. It does it does don't work over here

listen you know my mother's is you know she got my back the most yes she manages you right yeah real hands-on like she's pretty much everything like you know assisted making sure schedules laid out you know secretary oh everything everything I love that. That works. That works yeah you when you know when it works it just you gotta you gotta keep it at that and yeah so that was it was some hard decisions to make on on that side of just like the family business and it doesn't mean I can't have a relationship right my family just mean that hey my business is a whole other arena.

It is. I come to see y'all, I'm gonna say I'm gonna check on you, how you doing? I love you. I gotta get to work. Yeah. I love y'all. I see you. Hey, hey, hey. You be good man. hey, hey, hey, get them grades up. Yes. No, no, I see. You know? Can I get it? No, no, no. I gotta go.

All right. Can I, hey, can you face something? No. Can you face something? No, no, no. I be looking crazy. My girl's like, I feel so worked. She on the night shift.

She want me to, she didn't believe you was my cousin. I'm over there looking, I'm like, girl. Can I pull up on shit? No. No. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. All these harassment, we got to take harassment classes.

You don't know what we learning. You can't just be, no, no, I'm not bringing you. This is not play time. This is the big league. This is the big league. This game on. Yes. You know what I mean?

So, you know, it's just, it's a big shift. And people would think you acting funny, you know? It's like, oh bro, like you tripping. Or like, because I ain't answering the phone because I got to play a scene where I'm depressed. Yeah, I need to get in there. I can't talk to you. I can't talk to you.

I'm depressed. Literally, yeah. You know what I'm saying? So it's just like, it's those things, you know, scripts that come in that force you to lock in. It is, yeah. You know, and that's the, I mean, It's those those things and those scripts that come in that that force you to lock in it is you know and That's the I mean I wouldn't even say that's just an actor

Anything you want to do in life like if you want to be a gymnast if you want to be a lawyer it takes that You got a clock in you do you know and I also learned I've also learned how to close the office to like at home Mm-hmm. I got I got my office and then like, I really try to be out of the office by five or six o'clock in the evening. That's good. Where I'm like, all right. Don't say it too loud.

Yeah. I get no ideas y'all. I get that. You know, but you set your own times. I'd be like, every day might be different. Yeah. You know what I mean? You may start a little later, like tonight, one of them nights.

Yeah, we gonna be here for a minute. I've had to run scenes till 1 a.m., 2 a.m. before with a 9 a.m. call to set. Same. Oh my gosh, yes. And you have to make those decisions, but I've also just learned on when to turn it on, when to turn it off for me. That's good. So I could be ready for the next day. Exactly.

It's always another day. Because sleep is important. Listen, I tell Deval all the time because we would, in the first few seasons, we would push ourselves. Yeah. And I'm like, all right, we just wrapped. Hey, y'all knocking it out back to back. Back to back. Y'all like theater. No, literally, we shoot. We literally shoot like we're in front of a live audience. I love that. One take. Chris Tyler comes from theater. Shout out to Tyler. I got my first gig on, one of my first gigs, House of Pain. Really? Wow.

And that's still going. It's crazy. That show is still going. Yeah, I talked to Lance, I'm like, man, what season? He said, bro, like 13, something like that. Something crazy, yeah. I'm like, I need to be, that's the type of longevity I need. Give me that consistent check.

I love it. Tyler. But no, I love it. Tyler. Yeah. But no, I get it. And we would literally push ourselves. And by season, maybe four, I was like, D, I can't keep doing this. I was like, let me go to sleep. Because we used to stay on campus.

After COVID, we would stay at the studio. Apache. So after we wrapped, all right, I'm about to order some crab legs. Let's get these lines down for the next day. And one day, we were running lines, and I was like. What's day. And one day we were running lines and I was like, and he was like, Chris was like, no, he's like, Chris, I gotta go to sleep. I can't. So I went, I was like, I went to sleep and then the next day knew every line. He was like, how did you do it? And I was like, I gotta sleep. You gotta sleep

on it. You gotta sleep on it. Cause you, you'll try to run them lines at that 1 a.m. 2 a.m. and you just stumbling over the lines and that brain rest a little bit, let it marinate. It's almost like when I was using to go to dance class like I really didn't know, I didn't know the the moves that that day but if they taught the next day and for the song or the tour we were rehearsing for, I just the moves just coming out full. You just gotta sleep on it, you gotta let it marinate. You know what I'm saying? It's just, with anything. That's exactly, exactly.

When it comes to roles that you choose, as an actor, do you let the story speak to you? Are there some absolute things that you look for in the character? How do you go through that process? Like you just had two auditions today. What made you say, I wanna read for these? It's a layer of things. It's a layer of things.

It's a layer of things. I think at this point, I'm definitely looking at, first I'm looking at the script, looking at the story, it doesn't move me. Is it lighthearted? Is it heavy? You know, sometimes it could be either or. Who's the director? Who's the producers? You know, I'm at a point right now, I wanna go for the biggest commercial gigs,

you know what I mean? I wanna try to, I wanna win. You know, I wanna be next to seasoned actors, you know? So I do make those choices and I do ask, who's casted? I ask, you know, and it's no shade or anything. It's nothing like, oh, I can't work with this person because of this or that. Like, it's like, it's just, I paid my dues before.

You know, I started young and I want that next level. I love Timothee Chalamet's like speech. Like he's like, I wanna strive for to be a great, you know? And I'm inspired by the greats in the room and I want to be next to greats and I want to work with greats, I want to be on screen with greats. Exactly, yeah.

And that's just, if greats, and not to say my peers aren't great, I have some peers that are really great and I prefer to work with if I can. Yeah, yeah. You know, like when I worked with Kelvin Harrison in his film called Gully. He is so talented.

I was like, bruh, you like my favorite actor. He's one of my favorites, he's absolutely incredible. And I actually, that film, I actually met Jonathan May just for the first time. Really? And I was like, bruh, outta here. Oh no, he's- He outta here, he ain't had a side,

like I had the sides in my hand during rehearsal. He already just- No sides, ready. These. Just ready. Steel was cut up, there's a t-shirt, abs, I'm like- Yeah. You're living with the right, put these sides down.

Ready, I'm like ready. I'm ready too, yes. He think he made a jog around us in a 360 to get his breath pumping up for the scene, for the particular scene we were shooting. He was just like and I was like Incredible. Do you know where he studies? I always loved to like people do you do that? I believe he went to school like he was like, okay When like classically trained because I always look to see like people that I love in their work

I'm like, where did they study because I if I can get some type of intensive course in I like to keep that tool sharp. I definitely watched and Terrence Howard was on that set it was a pretty pretty cool Charlie Plummer some really like really amazing people like right before they really took off yeah you know it was that was the the beauty of working on a film like that. Yeah what made you say yes to that one? The script was just like super left field. Like the character, not me at all. Like if anybody that's seen the film would be like,

oh, you got a whole different, I believe Miguel, Miguel reached out to me and was like, bro, they don't even know what you capable of. Wow. And that meant a lot to me because I, you know, when you're doing a new role, you kind was like, bro, they don't even know what you capable of. Wow. And that meant a lot to me because I, you know, when you're doing a new role, you kind of like, you kind of insecure. Like you're like, man, like, I don't know if my,

am I killing it? Right. Am I really nailing it? You know, cause I auditioned, a shout out to Nabil, I auditioned like six times and shout out to him for believing in me. Yeah. You know what I mean?

It was like, I auditioned for like five or six times. He was like, more, more! You're not going hard on, you're too smooth. Oh, that's good. He was just like, too smooth, like you're too, like, shake it off. I was like, right, right, right. Okay, you're like.

Cause I sing R&B, you know, I'm just, I'm Jacob Lattimore. Right. I'm like, he He like shake that off It's not gonna work here. Yes Was it frustrating like a little bit cuz you like I'm sure at this point of your career You like either you want me or you don't like yeah It was it was just refreshing though because usually

After the third audition they onto the they looking for the next person when they call you in that 50s or 60s like we're getting somewhere so I believe he was in he was definitely in there fighting for me yeah because then you know a producer may have a favorite the director might have a favorite you know but everybody the directors like no I see something and you push harder and that's who has to work with you. That director, yeah. Shout out to the bill for pushing me. That was, that's a film I'll always cherish. Just the learning lesson of it. In your career, what has been like the most

challenging thing that you had to deal with on set? I'm sure that was one of the most. Was that the most challenging? I would say, I would say, I would say definitely. It was uh, yeah I haven't, I haven't been challenged like that in a long time. I mean season seven of The Shaw is gonna be, it was, it pulled on me heavy emotionally. It was going through some heavy stuff. He's not always smiles and fun and jokes. I would say this is probably the toughest season for me on the shot. Just on the locking in part.

Like, oh no, I can't. I have to be ready for this day. To be able to perform the way you need to. Because you and I both know how when they got to film that scene that day and they're on that time schedule and they got that shot up and you trying to be ready for that moment, ain't no room for error. No. Are you a method actor? I can be.

For Gully, I definitely was for that film with Kelvin. And it depends. It depends on the heaviness of it. Like if it's some room for me to add me in there, I don't really be on anything method. But if it's like not me at all, you gotta wake up in it. Close the door.

The whole time, yeah. Lock it, lock it. I may not show up to set with that energy that I like to show up to set with. Cause I wanna make sure I'm not acting funny or like causing any riff raff. Cause some people could take the method thing and be rude. I wanna be rude.

You know, like I wanna just let people know like, hey, I'm just, you just, I'm gonna put them headphones in like, hey Jacob. And then as soon as we rap it's like, man, thank y'all so much. Like I had that. Hey, cool, cut as we wrap it's like man. Thank you so much No, I get it you do it this there's times like even with my hair makeup team They know me so well, but before they really understood my method They would be like Keke and I would have super emotional seem like hey

Can y'all just bring it down just a little bit because Cause I can't be around like, ha ha ha ha. And over here like trying to keep that, cause I'm a naturally happy person. And I'm not, I'm getting to the point where I can almost cry like at the, to the drop, but I need, it takes a minute to build it. I'm not like a, brr. It's like, it gets harder too. Cause you like, you build tougher skin and you don't,

you're not as emotional as you was. Yes. So you gotta like go listen to that one song. Listen, what's your song? Right now, I think I listened to, I think it was, it was a Boyz II Men record. Okay, oh. I don't wanna say it, I don't wanna say it.

And I shouldn't ask you that, because my acting coach told me never ask an actor what their like trigger is is like their song or whatever It's all good now because it's a couple it's a couple and then it's actually a old song that my dad and my uncles Sung when they were teenagers a gospel record. Oh your dad was a singer? Uh-huh. Yeah Wow Okay, so the yeah, so like my dad my uncles they formed a gospel quartet when they were young called the more Wow Yeah, they formed a gospel quartet when they were young called the Moore. They were actually touring and doing that thing and then they later on got signed to MCA Records by Randy Jackson doing R&B music. Show out Randy, that's what's up.

Yeah, so that room was amazing for them and I learned a lot watching them. I can imagine. Yeah, just hearing their stories and you know learning a lot from my uncle. Yeah. Yeah. Like my uncle still to this day like Jake stay focused. Stay focused little Jake. Little Jake. You out there little Jake. Stay focused. Don't let him stay out there. Shout out. We need, we need those voices in our ears because it can get a little crazy, you know, when you're, it's so much coming at you and life is changing so fast, you need to stay grounded. So shout out for that. Got to listen to it. Yes, absolutely. Speaking

of music, one of my favorite songs right now is Residuals. Oh yeah. You like how it slid on in there? You, let me tell you something. Hit record. Bodied, you bodied the, when Tank started the challenge, I was always, I'm like, okay, now who's, cause that song is just like so good. The R&B of Thor. Shout out Tank. When he started that, I was like,

who's gonna like hop on this? And when you came in, baby, let me tell you something. I was like, it was enough fire signs. I was like, so good. You know, I saw the challenge bit put up and I was like, I just put my phone down I was like, I ain't doing it. Really? You say I ain't gonna do it. What puts you to do it? Family members calling me. Really? They like, they like Lil J. I know you don't do the covers no more. Yeah You gotta do this one. Listen. You gotta do this one. They like Lil J, I know you don't do the covers no more, but you gotta do this one. You gotta do this one.

And I was just like, ah. So I literally, I have recorded it, filmed it, and I literally wasn't about to throw it up. Really? I had did everything that, it was like, I was like, nah. What was the hesitation? It was just, I just felt nervous. My body was shaking, you know, that kind of like, no. What was the hesitation? It was just, I just felt nervous. My body was shaking, you know,

that kind of like adrenaline rush. I pressed share. I read you like a hundred. It was like a hundred comments in like two seconds. I'm like, You're like, oh, here we go. I was going upstairs.

I was like, I'm like, what's going on? Y'all, what you mean? What you mean? Bruh, I see it. That's how you feel it? You're right. What you talking? I ain't? Bruh, I see it. That's how you feel it? What you talking about? We were all like, oh that's how you feel it. It's just R&B.

Shout out CB. I got a chance to kick it with CB. I went to go see him in Brazil. His international run was insane. Yeah, like and a lot of the dancers that's with him, I grew up with and just being out in LA just seeing them their growth as well so it was just it was a full circle

moment and I just had to hop on it. I'm like, you know, I'm like I was hesitant. Yeah. I know they was like I felt like nobody was kind of expecting me to do it either just cuz I just been so wrapped into the film. Yeah, but it was a cool moment for for me to Just show my talent on the music side a lot of a lot of a lot of fans Don't know I've ever did music what I've seen like a lot of comments. They're like when Emmett starts singing Forever, you know, so the world's so big. Wow. You gotta constantly humble yourself and say,

no, I still got more to prove on the side. I still got people to win over. I still got more territory to conquer. And I'm gonna say something, that song, how vulnerable you were in your cover on that one. I feel you have that like usher confessions type of like vulnerability where you're really pouring your heart out and sharing your truth

and something that a lot of people aren't comfortable doing are you now that you're working on your own music, original music. Is that something that you're putting into your music now? Yeah, and what thing was I had been doing it. It's just like, I'm an independent artist. So it hadn't, it didn't really hit when I actually dropped it. It's just like I'm an independent artist so it hadn't it didn't really hit when I actually dropped it. I dropped the EP called

Closure just about just how I was feeling you know but I guess it was like it was kind of quiet you know my core fans knew about it but you know something like that come about it like oh we do music like oh he been dropping stuff for a long time. I've been dropping heartbreak music. I've been dropping the heel music, heeling music, you know what I'm saying? Connection One, Connection Two, Connection Three came out 2016.

And so now it's just a lot more eyes on my next project. And with social media too. And then the- Yeah, part of me was like, I need my, I wish my album was done now. Right, no, perfect timing. Yeah. Because I'm indie, like we gotta do certain things, you know, we gotta be ready.

When it's hot, yes. When it's hot, we gotta catch that moment. We not, I'm not signed to a major company. I do wanna go back major one day, I just... Really, why? I think for me, I just understand what the contract is, I understand what it is. Like I understand that, I understand. I understand what it is. I understand that. I understand the power of a major label. I also understand the freedom of

being independent. It does work for me because I'm on set most of the time. So you can do it when you want to do it. Yeah, but major companies still got their foot in the game in the way that it's still tough for us. But I want to go back with leverage though. I don't want to just go back to go back. I want to go back with it's got to be right. It's got to be worth my while.

You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? What I was saying? You know what I'm saying? It's got to be worth it. It has to be. That's what Ashana and I say all the time. If we're gonna go to a bigger company for representation,

they have to be doing more than what we're doing here. And West 2, we're like, if they ain't doing, we listen to three of us, listen, we go get it. So y'all have to bring more than what we're doing ourselves because we can keep that money. Absolutely. You know, cause it's just, you know, you just understand when you think about your favorite artists, right?

You think about your favorite touring artists. If you, I don't know, you can name anybody and you look at that touring numbers and you look at who they're signed to, they signed to the big dogs. You know, it just, it is what it is. They didn't start off that way. Yes. They started off You know? It is what it is. They didn't start off that way.

Yes. They started off indie. You know, it's a great way to know how to be a boss indie. It's know how to go get your own records, book your own studio time, shoot your own music videos. Build your own fan base. Build your own fan base. Yeah.

Like you gotta, it's a direct to consumer thing you definitely gotta learn, no doubt about. Because you'll get to a record company and be like, why they ain't doing nothing for me? But they only, they watching you. Yeah, right. You know, so you got to see that you moving. They got to see that you posting four or five times a day

that you're dedicated about it. So they can't, so you can't access that capital that they have. Exactly, that's real. You know what I mean? Like a lot of people compare their independent releases to a major artist release. That major artist may have a million dollars on the market. The backing is great. Yeah. Out the gate. Yeah. As soon as that record drop a million

dollars is spent and now it's everywhere. It's in H&M, it's in elevators. Exactly. You like, oh my stuff ain't popping. You can't even compare your dollars. You can't. You know you you gotta focus on your audience. So, and then when it's the right time, go expand. Yep, exactly. I love that. Switching gears a little bit. I wanna talk about love relationships and personal growth

as a young man who the ladies love. Y'all love me ladies. Is that true? Why is that lady? Why is that lady? Why is that lady alone from night to night? You find me? You seen that? See? See?

And he wonders why. That's James Brown, that's James Brown. You ever seen that? Yes. That's my favorite interview. Oh my gosh. Classic. Do you find it hard to date being in the public eye?

Cause you've done public relationships but... Not really. I mean at first it seems a little unorthodox. I mean it is different. Spotlight is different when dating. But at this point it's just like, it's just come with the territory. It's my life. You know? I like that. You know what I mean? It's like, it ain't really, you learn to kind of just brush off certain things, you know what I mean? So it's just, it took some while to get used to. Yeah. Everything being so public, you're like, oh, whoa, okay. People really care about who you're with and how you're moving and how y'all moving as a unit. And you know, it's just not,

you can't just take it lightly. Like people, if you putting it out there, like, whoa. Like beware. Be ready. Social media, like has that, was that ever like an issue in your, cause I know for me, like, they like, you just give one little clue and they like, they know this person's whole life, their whole backstory.

And then they have an opinion on everything. And it's like, I ain't ask y'all for all that. No yeah like now I would ask I would I would have a lot more boundaries now. What would your boundaries be? I would just be like no let's not let's not throw that up honestly I me personally at this point I wouldn't pop out until it's my wife. I'm with you yes. You know what I mean? Yes. I'm not popping out one girlfriend. Yes, that's one of my boundaries. If we're dating, there's no red carpets, no like social media posts. I'm not gonna hide you.

We can go out and do whatever. People see us, they see us. But I'm not broadcasting it. Until that's just for my husband. We ain't doing no TikTok, it's done. Right, none of that. I'm popping out like, yeah, I'm mad. I'm with you know

That's that's that's how I would like to to do it pull it easy because these are just popped out I was like yeah Yes, it just it just it's it's more peaceful that way way more. You ain't got to deal with everybody all in you Yeah, and you're in your stuff. I love it. So I want to know Jacob's dream girl, if you could like give the DNA or the makeup and the qualities of your dream girl, what would she be like?

Dream girl. First thing come to mind, just a godly thinking woman. Not a perfect, when I say godly, it doesn't mean she's perfect. There's no such thing. Absolutely. I'm's perfect. There's no such thing. You know what I mean? Absolutely. I'm not perfect.

I mean, just somebody that's always constantly feeling that conviction when they walk. Yes, yes. Trying to live a life of like, a sense of like repentance. Like, oh man, like yesterday, I could have been better. You know, like I wanna be better. That's good, yeah.

I think I'm looking, not looking, but if I see something, I'm like, yeah, I like that. You know what I mean? Because in the industry we in, we're dealing with a lot of spirits, we're dealing with a lot of things going on. At home, I need it to be, I need to feel like holy guile. You know what I mean? I need to be like, ah, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm in the kingdom of heaven. Hello. Yes. You know something I'm saying? I'm in the kingdom of habit.

Hello. Yes. You know something. Yeah. That's important. I love that. That's important for me. I think ultimately that's a dream girl.

Outside of that, I need you to be in the gym. Be in the gym. Yes. I love to work out. I love to work out with my partner. I think it's very, I think it's very, I think I feel like it's empowering. It's great bonding too.

Yeah, great bonding. Good conversation, therapy. Come on, so do you have a therapist? I do. Good. I do. It's been a few months. Okay, that's okay.

But I was heavy in it. I need to get back in there. Get back in there. But it was great for it. I need to get back in there. Get back in there. But it was great for me. Yes. Because it taught me how to manage a lot on my own. That's good, yeah. And to let stuff go that,

she's like, why are you carrying that? You're like, I don't know. That's a good question. But why? You know? So that, I like girls with some style, you know? But that could be taught too. It can. That could always say to my god black I can handle it yeah it's already laid out that's, hey, that look crazy. Ooh, weed. Hey, I seen you rap. Like, what's happening?

You know what I mean? Yes. So those are materialistic things that can be taught. And then I had this conversation not too long ago. I'm like, do I want a working, working woman or do I want an at-home girl? Yeah, that's a good question. Because I am such a workaholic.

You need, it's almost like you need that balance. Both of y'all can't be, yeah. So how do you feel about that now? I don't know yet, you know? I really don't know yet. I mean, it's not that I don't want my girl to have ambition and a work ethic, you know what I mean? I feel like, I think she should definitely have something

that she loves to do, but I don't want her to feel like she got to do it like I like that Yeah, like when I'm like when I come home, I need you to be at the crib. Yeah I'll check myself. That's maybe a little selfish of me a little bit, you know a little bit But it's honest, but it's honest Yeah, you have to be honest with yourself and what you need, you know and finding the person is like yeah I can I can do that. Yeah, you know, yeah. Yeah, it's honest. Yeah, you have to be honest with yourself and what you need, you know, and finding the person that's like, yeah, I can do that. Yeah. Yeah. You know? Yeah.

It's honest. Some day, I'm still on the fence with that. I'm fenced about that, yeah. Like, I'm still like, no, no, no. No, no, I need, because I've had situations where a girl paid for me one time. I'm like- Pay for you like what?

In the sense of like dinner, and like my birthday. Oh. And I'm like- Oh, I like that. I always, like, I feel cr one time, I'm like. Pay for you like what? Like in the sense of like dinner and like my birthday. Oh. I'm like. Oh I like that. I always, I always, like I feel cringy cause I'm like, I'm so used to. Being the one pay for the thing.

Yeah. You know and I was like, boy that kind of felt good. I'm like hold up. You get used to this. I'm like, give me a chick with some bread. And then I'm like, hold up. Then I'm like wait.

Then a lot comes with that. What's the spirit? Yeah. What's the spirit? What's the spirit? Because that's more important. Way more important. You know what I'm saying? So it's always a battle. But I think for me, I'm really trying to force myself

in a space right now to be single. It's the longest I've ever been single. Really? I started out dating young in relationships. So I was in back to back relationships for like 10 years. Yeah, I was a habitual dater. Like I break like back-to-back relationship for like 10 years Yeah, I was a habitual data like I break up with someone. I'm like, yep Yeah, one was public but the other ones was private and then long And no one's seen that so I'm just like I don't want to

Preach that oh you should be single. You should never date like that's not what I want to put out there I just think for me in this season, it's just good for me to enjoy my home and the silence of my career. Jacob is important. Yeah, you know, and just take that time out before I share it with somebody. And I'll tell you something, because I'm a lot older than you. When I had a season in my life where I didn't date as well, and I feel like when you're like us and we've dated so like rapidly or frequently and you have all these different people

in these different energies and just pouring, pouring, pouring. Cause when you're in a relationship it's all about your partner. You know, and there comes a time where you do have to be selfish as you or whatever people want to call it. But I think in those moments

you learn so much about yourself. You learn how to figure out what it is you like. Because sometimes we can be in relationships, like whatever you like, whatever you want to do. And it's like, what do I like? You know, and I feel like in those moments of solitude and just not being with somebody, you learn exactly what you want.

So I'm proud of you. Thank you. Yeah, because a lot of people dates, like you shouldn't be alone and all. No, sometimes you need those moments. It doesn't necessarily mean that I don't go kick it. Yeah. It's just my home is for me.

Yes. But I go to dinner. I have a dinner with a nice young lady. And we go to Atlanta. We go to a little hookah lounge to celebrate. So Atlanta. You know what I'm saying? Wings, lemon pepper.

You might catch a vibe. So it ain't like I'm just like so isolated. But you're not so like, I gotta get somebody. Like you're not on the hunt or on the prowl. Yeah. I'm very vocal on just like, hey, I'm not, I'm not really taking things serious right now. Good, so you're not leaving anyone on. Yeah.

Proud of you. Yeah, thank you. Thank you. You know, it's tough, it's tough out here. Listen, I'm trying to tell you, it's very tough. Because it's easy. It's easy to be like, I like her though. But I really like her though. And then you're like, wait, what am I doing? I ain't got no vision. I ain't got no vision. I ain't thinking about the next two years or nothing. You know. You have to be very intentional when it's time to be in that space. Yeah. Because you

can break somebody's heart. Because they be like, Jake Aladdin won't like me. Like this the one. And then he just broke over because you wasn't ready. And then now Jake Aladdin broke my heart. And you don't want that. I don't want no track record. No, no. So you're doing the right thing.

I'm proud of you. So I know you, we said, when people ask you what's next. So we said when people ask you what's next? So I'm not gonna ask you what's next. What are you looking forward to for the future for you right now? I'm just looking forward to just Looking forward to Creating more on the film side. Like I've been trying to practice more writing. Okay, so more time I'll not talk to writers, and I was like, how long did you, how long did it take

for you to write the script? Oh, they said, oh man, like six years. Oh yeah. And you think you could go in writing in your office and write a script in 30 days? Yeah, you know. No. I've been writing a script since 2001, was COVID, 2020.

Yeah. Yeah. And a great writer mentor of mine, he was like, you can't write small. No, that's so true. He said, you can't write small. He said, it's hard to make it small. I said, I got some one sheets.

He like, he said, one sheets are cool, but it's hard to write small. You gotta take that two years, take two, three years every day and add something to the story. And the next thing you know, you have a hundred pages, 120 pages. You know what I mean? So just being patient with myself, journaling more.

We'll have to get you a journal. I have a journal. I got some. I just, I'd be like, if you look at the days in my journal, it's like, it'd be like months out between each date. Yeah, that's okay. It's really hard, especially when you're busy, it's hard to like wake up or in the evenings

to figure out a time to sit down and really journal. You have to be very, it's something you have to be intentional with. Absolutely. So I understand, trust me, because there's times in my life where I'm like, ooh, that was January, it's March. So like, I definitely get it.

I'm more intentional about it now because it's therapeutic for me. And I write my prayers out. So like I talk to God about like what I'm grateful for, what I'm more intentional about it now because it's therapeutic for me. And I write my prayers out. So like I talk to God about like what I'm grateful for, what I'm going through, what I want him to like guide me through and all the type of things. So it's more of like my time with God

where I write it out. But yeah, we'll make sure we give you a journal. We always need them journals. I feel like I've had like three or four over the past couple of years. And like you got some information in there, you got some information in there. and you just writing down goals and I mean a lot of my goals are like financial and real estate goals. I've been into that.

Like I've been, only the only thing I've been buying is like turnkey properties. Meaning like properties that already have tenants in there and it's cash rolling already. Smart. Don't really need much work. But I want to get into flipping. Flipping properties in the next six months. You know what I mean? So I'm just like diving into that. And then also just doing a little traveling too. You know, this is the longest break we've had

in between seasons. So I want to do a little traveling, see the world a bit. You know? And get some perspective, you know, get some inspiration because I am a homebody. I am like Chicago, Atlanta, Chicago, Atlanta, maybe LA, maybe New York. Oh yeah, you need to get out of the states. I need to get out of the states and just try some different food. Yes.

You know, learn a different language. All the things. Yeah, that's good. You'll come back inspired yeah I promise you I love that so we do what it's called positive outcomes where our listeners write in and we give them advice So I'm gonna read this letter from I don't want to butcher your name. I hope I'm saying this right and Elijah Williams Oh, hey, Elijah

Elijah says I recently just left a relationship I was in for nine years the only relationship I've been in the only person I've ever been with I have three children by him as I started seeking God we became further apart I didn't quite understand until one night we had a big argument and I prayed for clarity and it was as if God Himself was in my face and said he can't go the flesh wants what it wants that it when it's comfortable But the spirit says no. How do you handle flesh and spirit? Oh my gosh, Nalaja. I'm not even, I'm experienced enough to help her out with it. But what I do know about

what I've read is a man leaves his mother and his father and become one flesh with his wife. And I don't, that don't sound easy to me. So I don't think it was ever meant to be easy. Unless it was like something that's truly detrimental in the relationship, I'd say fight for it. And you got a family. Man. I think her biggest thing is that she's seeking

a relationship with God and the God's pulling apart from her. So I haven't had that situation but I have had a situation where I had... I missed that part. I want to listen. Oh no you're good. I think that was her biggest thing but for me I've been in a situation where literally God sat in the car and was like I heard the same thing he can't go because I was fighting for it. I was like I want to listen. He was a narcissist, manipulative. Oh he can't go as in like, into your next journey of your life. Yeah. I see.

Ooh, yeah. But you like, the flesh wants what it's like. But I love this man and this woman. And it's like, you see all the things that it could be in your mind. And God's like, no, that ain't what I have for you. And the reason why you still stuck is because you haven't let this go. Because I can't take you to the next level. I've had that situation.

And then even where I am now God has been he's I've talked about it on another podcast, but God convicted me on sex I'm really my Bible and like I'm reading is like sexual morality. I'm like, it's like the paint the words are like Definitely like you do it to you like, I seen you last night. Uh-huh. You listen. I wasn't doing nothing. Y'all jack up. You know, like, ah. He saw that? You right, I wasn't even supposed to be over there.

What, he wasn't even doing that? I literally did that. He wasn't even supposed to be over there. I told a friend of mine, because I gave it up, I gave up sex, and I had the hardest time telling the guy I was dating. I was like, he gonna be like, no, I'm good on that. And he was like, no,

if this is what guy convicted you on be like no I'm good on that you know and he was like no This is what guy convicted you on like I'm with it, but I remember telling my friend as I Went even further I threw my vibrator out and all the things I was like I'm really gonna do this cuz I can't like be halfway in and halfway out Yeah, and I remember telling her I was like there was a bad storm like a few weeks ago Mm-hmm, and I was like I woke up the thunder was so loud I was like is that guy like I thought he was like, I woke up, the thunder was so loud. I was like, is that guy? Like, I thought he was bad. I went in my closet and everything.

I was like, Lord, I was like, if you coming, come on. No, yeah, them stomach feelings don't like, oh, I realized like, you can't ignore it. You can't ignore it. You know, and anytime I have, it's like, I knew it. I knew it. You knew, that discernment. Yeah, you felt it.

And sometimes you feel like you crazy. You feel like, I'm being crazy. I'm tripping, I'm overthinking. You're not. Yeah, you felt it. Sometimes you feel like you crazy. You feel like, I'm being crazy. I'm tripping, I'm overthinking. You're not. No, that was nothing like that. You're right on point. Yeah, I told my girlfriend, I said, when I thought he was here, I was like,

I really thought God had came back. And I said, and I thought, ooh, if God come back right now, do I want to be served with my legs cocked back? Oh! When you thinking about? She said, damn, I ain't thinking about it like that. I was like, think about it.

I said, whatever you're doing that you ain't got no business doing. I was like, I want to be like, hold on, hold on, hold on. I want to be in the word, like, I knew you were gonna come. I knew you were coming. I knew you would return. My daddy gonna say, I was talking about daddy, he was down there, he said, girl, he said,

you gonna be gone before he even know you, like before you know you're gonna be caught up in the rapture, I was like, dang, I said, well, whatever I'm doing, I wanna be caught up doing the right thing, I wanna be getting there like, butt naked, like, what was you doing? At least you wanna be in the covenant. Right.

You in the covenant, it's like, hey! You know what I mean, you in the covenant. We made it! We married, we under your blood. Listen. You know what I mean, it's cool. Yes. You single, just outside, like, hey, you know what I mean? You're the couple. We married, we under your blood. You know what I mean? It's cool. You're single, just outside, like, ah, man. I knew I was supposed to be there.

I knew it. I knew it. You know what I'm saying? Like, I knew I was supposed to be at home in my work, watching sermons, being alone, and sipping tea. You know what I mean? Yes. So, Nalaja, I would tell you just to continue

work on your relationship with God and anything that is pushing you away from that or hindering from that you have to separate from it. That's right. So we praying for you girl. That's right and forget what I said because I went I ain't got no business even speaking on that. No, you good. No, you good. So we are going to end the show with a rapid fire game. Okay. All right. So every word or phrase that I say, you're going to tell me the first thing that comes to mind.

Okay. You ready? Wait, wait, wait. Say it. Say it one more time. I'm going to say- I'll be listening. You so sick.

I'm going to give you some phrases and whatever I say I want you to say the first thing that comes to mind. It can be like it doesn't have to be just one word you can like whatever comes to mind you can say it. Okay. The first one is the shy. Consistent. Oh all right. The perfect woman. Out there. She's out there somewhere. Self-care. Um, therapy. I love that. Milwaukee. Hometown. Yes, growth. Uncomfortable. What was that? Manhood. Um, Manhood. Um, ooh. An everyday

learning curve. I don't never feel like I'm there. I love that. Last one, purpose. Purpose, um, it's divine. Um, I almost

don't even understand it. I'm still trying to figure it out. Like you think it's because you're doing your music, you think it's because you're doing your acting, but it's like, it's something deeper, you know? Like it's deeper. And you just, you still, we still trying to figure it out. Like, oh, oh, that was the purpose for me being here.

Mm-hmm. That was the purpose for me working with this actress. That was the real purpose for me working with this actor. Yes. Like, we doing this movie is going to come out. But that conversation I had with that person was like, that was it. And that's the mysteriousness of the creator. I love that.

I love that. Jacob, thank you so much. I really enjoyed talking to you. Yeah, it was a blast. Yeah. They're going. I love that. I love that. Jacob, thank you so much. I really enjoyed talking to you. Yeah, it was a blast. They're going to like this. They are going to love it. They're going to love it. Thank you so much.

Thank you. Oh my goodness. My episode with Jacob Latimore was absolutely amazing. He has been in the game for so long. I took so many gyms when I know you guys did too. One of the things that stood out the most to me were when we talked about survivors remorse and who can come with you and who can't.

And I feel like that is so prominent in so many people's walks is knowing when it's time to let certain people go and the people you should hold on to that understand where you're going and your walk. but you should hold onto that understand where you're going and your walk. That was an incredible conversation with Jacob. His journey and personal growth is inspiring, and I hope you're walking away as motivated as I am.

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