Keep it Positive, Sweetie - From Beauty to Business with Kiyah Wright

Episode Date: August 6, 2024

This week I have my friend and longtime stylist Kiyah Wright on the couch. She's been in the hair industry for 30 years working with everyone from Ciara, Mary J Blige, Tyra Banks, and so many other ic...onic women in the entertainment industry. We talked about everything from her upbringing, tour days, time on set with Tyra and her haircare line. Kiyah is a living testament that you can have longevity in the business if you have unwavering faith and impeccable work ethic.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Keep It Positive, sweetie is available on Apple Podcasts, iHeartRadio, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Just search Keep It Positive, sweetie. That's sweetie with an IE to listen. Hello and welcome to this episode of Keep It Positive, sweetie. I'm Crystal Renee Hazlett and guys, guess what? We are in Los Angeles. I finally brought Kips to LA. Guys, I want to sit down and talk to some of my friends here that couldn't get to Atlanta, so we are here and I am so excited. I want to thank 13 Loon. We are here at this beautiful black-owned establishment owned by Nikaeo Greco where 90% of her products that she sells are BIPOC founded. Guys make sure you stop by right here in the Larchmont area.
Starting point is 00:00:48 If you don't know where it is just google it and pull up on my girl. For this episode I am talking to someone that I'm very close to that I've known for years. I'm so excited to have her. She is responsible for a lot of the hairstyles that you've seen me rock on red carpets and so many other people just to name a few. Tyra Banks, Angela Bassett, Shaka Khan, She is responsible for a lot of the hairstyles that you've seen me rock on red carpets and so many other people just to name a few Tyra Banks, Angela Bassett, Chaka Khan, Laverne Cox, Ciara, it's so many people that if it's fly she probably doesn't get it, I'm telling you.
Starting point is 00:01:16 But I have with me Kaya Wright guys. Kaya is a two time Emmy award winning celebrity hairstylist whose genius has not only set the precedent for image making, but has redefined the appearance of sexy, successful, and confident women. Kaia is a fashion powerhouse with expertise ranging from signature hairstyle designs to overall beauty consultation and transformation. As a charismatic visionary, this creative trendsetter
Starting point is 00:01:43 has established her mark in the industry and continues to inspire with cutting edge developments and groundbreaking achievements. Ladies and gentlemen, Kaya Wright. I'm so happy to have you here. Yes, I'm so excited to be here. Oh my god. You know I'm always like, yes! Oh my gosh, she keeps up with y'all. Like, you keep up with the shows, you keep up with the podcasts. I just appreciate your continued support over the years. Seriously. Yes, for sure. Today we want to talk about continuous invention.
Starting point is 00:02:15 And that is what I think about you. You have reinvented yourself over the years. You've been doing this for 30 years. And you have been doing it. You know, people wish they could. Oh my goodness. You've been doing it for 30 years and you have been doing it. You know, people wish they could. Oh my goodness. You've been doing it for 30 years and when I think about you, I think about this quote
Starting point is 00:02:31 and it says, there are no shortcuts in evolution. We should be consistent in evolution and adapt to the new without ever losing our essence or our integrity. And I feel like that is something you have done. I like that little ending. Yeah, because this is their own other integrity. That's feel like that is something you have done. I like that little ending. Yeah. Because this is their own other integrity.
Starting point is 00:02:47 That's what I love about you. Oh, I love that. That's what I think about when I think of you. You are constantly evolving with the times. I was telling my team, I said, I feel like there are some artists, and you can tell by their work that they literally learned whatever they learned years ago
Starting point is 00:03:04 and never kept up with the times. Right. With you, like, I can be be like, I want to do this. You're like, oh, got it. You're on it. You keep up with the times. Whatever's in, you know how to do it. And a lot of times, you're ahead of the times. That's what I love about you. You can be like, no, we need to do this. And then you see a year later, people are doing what you said do a year ago. Exactly. That's exactly how you are. We met, oh gosh, I don't want to say, our camera of the year. It was the Jamie Foxx and Gabrielle. Cause I was doing gab, you were doing Jamie, right?
Starting point is 00:03:35 Oh, TI, exactly on the show. Yes, we was. And yes. Our camera of the year. Oof. It was a long time ago. It's over 10 years. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:42 It's over 10 years. Yes. And ever since then we've been like this. Yes, love, press the red A. I love it. I remember meeting you and we worked, I think it was three months on that movie. Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:54 It was hot, Atlanta summer. Yes, and we were backstage. We got to talk every day, catch up, chit chat, the whole bit. Yes. Yes, for sure. I love it. So I want to go back to your growing up your background.
Starting point is 00:04:06 I want to know more about Kaia and where she really started from. Now were you the type of girl that played with dolls and like did their hair? Yes, and don't play with my dolls. I would be real territorial too like had the little Barbies, you know, they had the head and then with the big head and then you can put all your little accessories like right in the little pot right in the front. Then I had the Barbies grandma will buy me on the Barbies like please don't touch my Barbies like I will be real territorial with the styling of
Starting point is 00:04:32 the clothes like yeah, yes, it really did start there and then I I was sneak friends into the basement to get their hair done you and charge them child hair was doing hair, nails, everything. I was 14. 14, my mom had just passed and she put me in hair school. So back then, hair school was in a, you took it as a trade.
Starting point is 00:04:58 So like back then it had carpentry, electrician and I could take up cosmetology. So I took up cosmetology, paid $150 for the kit, boom, I started doing hair, like from that moment on. Like, and I probably graduated, my mom passed away. It was like literally she put me right in hair school right before that. And she probably passed away like a month later. So that really was like, it really did spearhead that gave me a jumpstart at like, making it a career. Right. You know what I mean? I didn't know it was going to be a career. I just thought like, I'm hustling to make money. My mom just passed away. My
Starting point is 00:05:35 grandma and them, they not really giving me money. I'm hanging out with the hot girls or whatever. And I'm like, I need money. You know what I mean? So I started doing hair, sneaking people. I didn't have to sneak what I mean? So I started doing hair, sneaking people, I didn't have to sneak, I had the whole basement and my grandma would let me do people's hair and I would do the little hump nails and if they had the little round nails, I did. I did.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Yes, I did everything to just make money, you know? So that's really, really how I started. Wow. That's how I started. That is incredible. At home. Right, and I'm sure just your mom looking down is like super proud that the see that she sold a long time ago. Yes. The room that it's made
Starting point is 00:06:13 for you in your life. Yes. It's incredible. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. It's been a, it's been a, I didn't go for it. It was just, it kind of, I've never had another job in my life. I didn't go for it. I didn't go for it. You know what I mean? I never had another job ever in my life. Like, I don't know, you know, I went from 14. I was trying to hustle to make money. I just, I tried to sell drugs, you know, that's in my book. Like, I was just like, I need, I need to make money. You know what I mean? Because what was I gonna do? My mom had just passed away, my grandma never taking care of me, and I'm just like, not really, just kinda no guidance. And hair was so natural for me, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:06:54 Just kinda sneaking people in, doing hair. And then it was a salon that did all the poppagla girls, these gay boys, they would walk up and down Georgia Avenue, Silver Spring, Maryland, and just be like fabulous, like fabulous. And I was like, I wanna work with those guys. And I went in there and they trained me like bootcamp. They would be making fun of me for being slow.
Starting point is 00:07:15 I mean, by like a year later, I had it. And I was like, boom, I'm one of those people I can watch you and watch things and I can just copy it. Really good at that. And I just got really good. And in two years, I was like making like $2,000 a week. And from there, I knew, I was like, okay, I want to do all my friends,
Starting point is 00:07:33 all the drug dealer girlfriends here. I was like, I'm gonna do, those were the celebrities at that time. Drug dealer girlfriends. So those were the girls that I sort of started with and they helped me like become a trendsetter you know that was the beginning you know DC doing those girls. Shout out DC. I always attribute DC to where I found myself because yeah after college I moved to DC. I'm from a small town. I did not know that. I is where I literally found my sense of fashion, found myself, you know, and my identity.
Starting point is 00:08:08 So I attribute a lot of who I am today to DC. Yeah, we fly. Y'all are. For real. You see, it was fly from the core. Yeah. Yeah, from the core. New York was like cooler.
Starting point is 00:08:17 They had the fashion, but DC women were just like really into it. You know what I mean? That's where I learned how to do short haircuts because the Halle Berry was out, Boomerang, Salt and Pepper with the little asymmetrics, with the stack curls. Like, ooh, I take it back now, 30 years. And I was really just, I just wanted to be the best. Like I want to be the best. I want to make money. And I started with those guys two years. And I just remember remember saying like that was the beginning of me becoming Entrepreneur I said if I go to them and I wanted to ask him I was like can I work on my own?
Starting point is 00:08:50 You know, can I not be on commission anymore? And they were like No now before I went to them. I said they say no I gotta have a plan B Yes, you do. Yeah, so I went down the street and I set it up just in case they said no and sure enough I went back and they were like, no, I don't think you're ready yet. And I was like, okay, cool. And I left and I went down literally down the alley and I took my entire clientele and that was the beginning of me becoming an entrepreneur right there. So talking about entrepreneur, a lot of people don't know after DC, you did so many things.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Walk us through the journey to get us to where you are now because people think that entrepreneurship, the way we make it look is easy. They see you have your own salon, you do the celebrities. But walk us through what it took to get to that point, starting from leaving that one salon. I think that helped me make the decision. Like, I always say there's no plan B, but I had to have a plan after when they said no, I was like, what am I gonna do with this huge clientele?
Starting point is 00:09:54 I have to, I know what I could be making. And I think you start to realize like, wow, okay, I learned, I worked under the best because I think that's key. I always give that as advice. Work with the best. Be around the best so you don't have to search for it. Come on.
Starting point is 00:10:09 You know what I mean? Like, yeah, I was never and don't be intimidated by it. Like I want to go work with the best. Where they at? That's where I wanted to work. So I can learn and absorb everything and I wouldn't have to go find it because people always ask me, how do I build a clientele? Go find the best. Go find a mentor.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Go work for someone who's better than you, who you want to kind of be like. And that was the decision that I had to make at that moment really did just spiral into so much more. Then I met Puff. Puff was like, you know, going to Howard, doing parties, and he had just started Bad Boy Records. So now I'm like, you know, going back and forth to New York, I was like, shoot, I want to live in New York City.
Starting point is 00:10:51 This is it. You know, I had kind of like, I would say kind of conquered DC. You know, I've done four years in DC, did all the drug dealer girlfriends, did all the hot girls in the city. I'm like, I want to go. Moved to New York, met Puff and that is really when it turned over a bit, you know, and then I was like, I mean, just even how I got to New York, my life has always happened by chance. Yeah. Moving to New York, the salon got robbed. They threw
Starting point is 00:11:16 everybody, 11 people in a bathroom. They were scared to death and nobody wanted to work there. Boom. Here comes Kaya Wright. She came and swept up a clientele. Same thing in LA. The people died from the Alia plane crash. Kaya Wright came and I swept up the whole clientele. So I've had very fady moments in my life, unfortunates that were blessings kind of for me, like not in a good way, but kind of sort of, you know what I mean? And timing. I think timing really did was also in faith.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Really having faith to move to Los Angeles. Moving here from New York was a big step and that was COVID. I'm sorry, when the plane- 9-11. 9-11. So all these monumental moments just kept happening in my life. It kept me on point,
Starting point is 00:12:07 cause you gotta be able to hang with the shift. And pivot, yeah. You gotta be able to pivot. So it started very early on pivoting for me, moving from DC, which I had a huge clientele, to, and I know because I used to do Christmas cards and I used to write them out personally. And I would be like 400 later and I would be like, I'm tired.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Whoever's after 400 will be getting a card. And so, and then from there, and I was like, you know, I moved from DC to New York and then when September 11th happened, I killed New York for eight years, nine years. I did everything from the press, from Vibe to XXL, all the magazines. I got really, you know, big in the editorial world
Starting point is 00:12:44 because you want to get into the editorial world, the crossover, as a black artist. And not just the black magazines, I wanted to be crossover. I've always wanted to be global of some sense. And I just became popular and naturally now the celebrities are looking for you. I'm a salon girl, so I wanted to work at the hottest salon in New York, which is Warren Chacon. Beautiful white salon, they created the most beautiful salons in the city. They were right next door to Arista Records.
Starting point is 00:13:14 So they did everybody. And I was like, I wanna work there. And I did not. Oh, you did not, okay. They did not. It was no black people that worked in there, but one black girl. And you have to start from the fries to the top.
Starting point is 00:13:28 And if I had to let go of a huge clientele that I had on 40, 30, fifth, to now move on 42nd street and 57th street and fifth, I would have to let everything go to work in there to start at the bottom. You gotta start in the shampoo bowl and you have to learn to be an assistant to then become a stylist. So that would have been another four years. Taking steps back. And I just
Starting point is 00:13:51 couldn't do it. And I just couldn't do it. Yeah. But what happened later is I ended up moving to LA eight years later and I ended up working at Warrant Your Call Me for 13 years. Wow. Look at government? So maybe the New York education wasn't for you, but you came here. And just, I had to season up. Yeah. Season up, just, you know, just grow my craft. I was doing so much.
Starting point is 00:14:13 I was touring a lot. I toured 15 years of my career, 12 years of my career with Faith, Mary, Little Kim, 112, Biggie, everybody for 12 years. When I moved here I was like no more. No more touring. What was it like touring with those? You just named a lot of amazing, like iconic people. What was it like? The best. It taught me how to be fast because you got to think Mary J. Blige has just launched the My Life album. You are going from four, three a.m. in the morning to one p.m. at night.
Starting point is 00:14:49 And so Puff, they would be like, you gotta be ready. You gotta be ready. I never toured, I don't know what this is like. What is it like getting in a role with a girl? I'm going through all the Mary J. Blige growing pains. I'm going through Kyah Wright not knowing how to be on tour. And I was with Faith first, and then Mary and her stylist had gotten into it,
Starting point is 00:15:07 so we swapped. Puffy said, you go with Mary now, and then her stylist's gonna go with Faith. So that's how I ended up with Mary for like a year. And this is the beginning of her career. I'll never forget that show, the My Life album tour. I would go out and watch the show every single night, so I had to learn how to be fast. I had to learn how to pick up the speed. You got to know how to, like, if they don't want to wake up that morning, you got to get her ready in 20 minutes.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Nobody cares that you couldn't get it ready. No one cared that, you know, the timing didn't work out. No one cared. So it taught me very early on, be ready, be prepared, have options, like they could change their mind at the drop of a dime and just, and be good. Cause your work is gonna be featured on national television. And you're gonna get murdered if it doesn't look right. And you will, cause they will, how they, especially nowadays, they'll zoom right in and be like, oh yeah, that happened to me too.
Starting point is 00:16:03 It happens to the best of us. Yeah, so just, you know, I think life really taught me so much on just, you know, and I've had so many stages of my career, you know, like starting out as a salon stylist touring for years, then boom moved to LA and now I meet Tyra. Jay Manuel introduced me to Tyra. It's like, I think you need to, you know, do this work with Tyra. She's like, great. She's launching this TV show. And I was like, ah, TV, uh, it's not a lot of money. I don't know if I want to do that. I'm killing.
Starting point is 00:16:29 I'm just growing my clientele after like a year in LA in the salon. And I'm like, and freelancing. So I'm like, isn't it amazing? We live in a world where you can get practically everything you need when you need it right to your door. Talk about convenience. I travel a lot and I'm notorious for leaving something at home, but I never stress out about it because no matter where I am, DoorDash has me covered. DoorDash is like having my own personal shopper for everything I need or could possibly even think
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Starting point is 00:17:32 Alcohol available only in select markets. I don't know, I'm making good money here. Should I leave this to do TV? Finally, she kept asking two years in. I was like, Tyra had to ask you for two years. I didn't get the concept. I didn't get the concept because I was making money.
Starting point is 00:17:51 And I was working with all the celebrities, just freelancing. And then finally, I was just like, something said, just do it. And it was life changing. I got to work with an iconic woman who taught me so much about professionalism. She taught me about like how to show up on set, remembering how to model lighting. Like, you know, I'm the one now that go behind, like the celebrity told me, Kai, go check the light.
Starting point is 00:18:20 I'll tell the director, the light ain't right, the hair too hot at the top. Like, I just know from working with her for so many years they spent three hours on lighting on top model because they lit so many different shades. You got a chocolate, you got a vanilla, and a caramel. So you have to light differently. Brown skin. So it taught me so much just her working with her like no matter what she was going through the pressure. She had two, three TV shows and she would come in. I mean, she would just lay on the bed and do my hair and my makeup.
Starting point is 00:18:51 She would be exhausted, editing all night long. Like you just see it and never had an attitude when she came to work, never. I was like, that was just everything. Because when you work with women, you get all type of attitudes or whatever. So that says a lot about her and her character. She was just like, cool, all the time.
Starting point is 00:19:07 I was like, this, it just taught me so much, you know, how to treat people on set and just, you know, the disaster for me happened on TV too. They all, people wrote in on a show that she did. And we had, it had went from top model that morning to the talk show. Those two worlds don't match. Right. When you're doing hair. Yeah. And it had went from top model that morning to the talk show. Those two worlds don't match.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Right. When you're doing hair. Yeah. So I did this crazy editorial thing and she was like, I'm tired. I just can't today. I gotta, I can't. I just gotta go on and I'm doing it.
Starting point is 00:19:38 And she had these two, a ball here, the ball here, ball here. And a million people wrote in. Oh my gosh. Two months later, they come to me, they say, Kaia, we just wanted to come to you and ask you, you know, two million people, a million people wrote in about this one episode that Tyrus Hair was a little crazy.
Starting point is 00:20:00 Oh my gosh. And they said, would you mind if we do a show on this? Oh wow. And I said, yeah, but we're going to give you your own show afterwards. And I have footage of this. You can reference. We're going to insert the footage here. It was even when I looked back, I was like, oh, that was kind of crazy. But anyway, and it was like the first time on TV, I realized like the two worlds don't
Starting point is 00:20:21 mix. So editorial and daytime TV here are two different worlds. I learned So many life lessons just with the journey, you know So you made it to LA and you decided to open up your own salon. I think it was in 2016 new suites and With everybody knows with the entrepreneurship and with owning the salon, it has its ups and downs. You were faced with the pandemic, you were faced with the strike. And a lot of people didn't realize how the strike
Starting point is 00:20:58 just didn't affect people like me who were in front of the camera. It affected people like you who worked with other actors. It affected our grips, our electricians, our PAs, everyone who worked on set behind the scenes that people don't even know about that actually make everything come together and actually work.
Starting point is 00:21:14 It affected you all as well. Can you tell us how your faith had to take a seat, how your faith had to play a part in getting you through? Cause I know the pandemic was rough on everybody, but then like a few years later you get hit with a strike. Because we talked during the strike and you were like, girl. Yeah, but let's not forget right now we're on a strike. Hair, makeup, and Teamsters are possibly right now today, June 2024, we're on strike right now. Oh my gosh. Right now, but we, I don't know if we're going to actually strike, but we're in the heavy negotiations. If the teamsters do not go to work, there will be no one going. So they're not going to play games with them. No, they're not.
Starting point is 00:21:52 You know what I mean? And I would, and I would say like even for hair and makeup, how important we are. So we, we come out of COVID. Yeah. You know, that was a big time for me because I'm like right now I'm about to launch my line. It's 2019. I done got my big loan. I'm ready to like launch. Yes. Kaboom. I would never forget the day when I,
Starting point is 00:22:18 my salon is not a big salon. I've never been big on owning a salon. I just never felt that that was where the money was. I'm about products, education, things like that. That's really where I see the next part of my career path. I've always saw it there. So I opened up a suite here in Beverly Hills. The salon business has really changed, first off.
Starting point is 00:22:42 It went from salons, they're more in the south and things like that. But now with the salon suite business, that has really taken a huge forefront in business. Entrepreneurship, boss women, everybody wanna be a boss. So the suite business is like the perfect transition. So that's what I kind of moved into back in 2016. I went from a salon, Warren Chiki, my dream salon, right into a suite. And so I get my money, I'm about to go through and I just go through, you know, funding my
Starting point is 00:23:14 own brand and the strike habits. I never forget the day because I was like, always praying for like time off. Like, damn. He's like, you want it? Oh God. Here you go. Time off. Like damn. He's like, you want it? Oh God, you want time off, D. Be careful what you pray for. And I'll never forget it because it felt like,
Starting point is 00:23:30 like when you watch those movies, like that Will Smith movie when the world, when everything went out in the world. I am a legend. Yes, and everything just stopped. When I tell you, when that happened that day, and they said, when all the noise kept happening about, they may shut down the businesses, da da da da,
Starting point is 00:23:46 and you kept watching the news, da da da, and it's just getting worse and worse and worse. But you're like, this is not real life. This is just what I see on TV. And when they said it that day and the salon closed, and they said, you will be shut down indefinitely. And Beverly Hills didn't play no games. LA didn't play no games because actors were like, whoa.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Like they were just like super paranoid. Yeah. It was like COVID death. It was like the two words went together. And then Atlanta was like, wow, hey everybody. Like what COVID? And Florida. Yes. And Florida. Everybody was going to Florida. I definitely went to Florida for Memorial Day for 2020.
Starting point is 00:24:20 On the boat, open air. We're good. No mask. We're outside. it's good. We're outside, no, out here we were like, death, girl, like zombies walking around here. And I was just like, God, what is gonna happen? And I just remember crying, crying,
Starting point is 00:24:39 like boo-hooing on Instagram. I was like, well guys, it's for real. Today's the day. I'm like, hey, I'm like crying. I was like, whoa, and it was real. Because then you felt like, I'm never gonna get to do hair again. I'm never gonna use my hands again. So I had to take my home office, turn it into an office,
Starting point is 00:24:57 get some wallpaper up, build it out. And make it like, and I got a deal. A deal, another deal with Procter & Gamble, six figures. I got to do it. I was like, God, thank you. So now I'm like, Oh my God, thank you so much. And I'm like, and they made me like a, I just went online and I talked to families about, you know, like hair, makeovers at home.
Starting point is 00:25:19 I just spent it any way that I could. And just, I had time off to think, ride my bike, hang out with friends. We were going to bars on the bike every day, child, we was no master. I haven't ridden my bike since 2020. Literally, he's been on my bike every day of the year. Exactly, it was a really good year for me. It went by really fast.
Starting point is 00:25:40 I think the next year was even harder, because now it's 2021, you know, it's the fear factor is lessening a little bit. We're getting ready to go back to work in 2022, we were just going back then boom, you hit us with a strike. So faith is the only thing that you have that's standing forward.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Like really, like I have to, when my mom died, my mother died in front of me. So it was like, boom, whole shit, like an aneurysm. Like shit, an aneurysm. My mom died of an aneurysm. An aneurysm. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:26:16 She had an aneurysm. So when she died, it was like, sudden, you have to shift immediately. Your mind has to shift. Like I gotta, you gotta take care of Immediately your mind has to shift. I gotta, you gotta take care of yourself. Like what you gonna do? You gotta take care of yourself.
Starting point is 00:26:29 Like there was no mom, grandmother, nobody. Like everybody died in five years. Mother, father, well father wasn't really there. Grandmother, thank you. I was like, I'm not gonna cry today. Everybody says it. So you have to immediately take a shift in your mindset. I'm 14, yeah, I'm 14.
Starting point is 00:26:52 So I'm becoming a young woman. I'm seeing what she's going through, an abusive relationship, and just having to pull out a knife to stab this dude because he's trying to beat my mom up. Like craziness, and she's like, I'm out of here. I'm moving. So we move in with my whole family.
Starting point is 00:27:08 And that's a combustion. So it's like six bedroom house and it's just like way too much. And my mom fussing at my aunt about sitting her fat ass on the couch. I'll never forget it. And then boom, she falls on the floor. Because my mom had the white couch,
Starting point is 00:27:20 child with the plastic on it. And my aunt used to just sit on it every day and watch TV. So she was just not having it. And she just falls out of an aneurysm. And that was the last day. And that's the day where my mom was the type that was like, she didn't say, I love you. She never said, I love you to mean it. It was always, I'm going to show you I love you, then to say it. So that's the energy that you take on as a young child. You take on that armor. That's your armor. That's your defense. That's your, you know, that's how you make it through life. Like, you know, I have to show up. I gotta be, I gotta, I gotta be with whatever it is. Like she, she raised me with self-esteem,
Starting point is 00:27:55 hold your head up high. You know, she put me in hair school, like all these little things just like fell right into place. So when she passed away, it was just like, you're on your own, you gotta figure this out. And I think I was already raised. She was like, and take care of your brother. And my mom literally like three days, two days after Christmas passed away. And I remember them saying, go in there and tell her you love her.
Starting point is 00:28:18 But we'd never said that. So it was hard. You know, and I never said it and she passed away. And then I was that. And I didn't get to see her or anything because she was at the hospital. I don't think families understand like mental health therapy, none of that.
Starting point is 00:28:35 So you just functioning in life. Oh yeah, my mom died yesterday. I'm back at school. You know what I mean? Like it was just nothing. And that was that. That was that. I remember graduating and throwing the test in the trash. I threw my last test in the trash and I passed. You know what I mean? Like it was just nothing. And that was that. It was back then, that was, yeah. Literally just had to move on. That was that.
Starting point is 00:28:45 I remember graduating and throwing the test in the trash. I threw my last test in the trash and I passed. I don't even know how. Wow. You know what I mean? Like life has always sort of covered me in a sense. Like she's just watching over my life. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:28:59 Like, so it's gone through many highs and many lows. And one thing about the journey for me has just always been about just staying relevant. You've done that since. Staying relevant. It's gonna be times where you super popular, you're all the way at the top. But my whole goal was always to stay good,
Starting point is 00:29:21 just be a good hairstylist and be well known and be easy, you know what I mean? Easy to be in the room, easy to get along with, like, you know what I mean? And just be really good about what you do. And that's really, really is what's kept me working. You know what I mean? And you're not gonna be popular all the time.
Starting point is 00:29:40 So true. That's the thing. Yeah, my game was going on in one route for 20 something years. Now I'm on a new route and it's very, very different from the route that I was taking because when you're on the road to become a celebrity stylist, I'm yours all day. I can't work on Kaya, right?
Starting point is 00:29:58 Right. That's why a lot of celebrity stylists don't have anything because you're on someone else's journey the whole time. I can't sit over here and be working on Kyah Wright while I'm with you because I'm an attentive stylist. I'm making sure every curl, everything, I'm your shirt, I'm your clothes, I'm everything to you. I'm selfless when I'm with you as a real celebrity stylist
Starting point is 00:30:22 to me. These new ones on the phone, shout, oh, I gotta get up and do the touch up. Right. Girl, don't give me. That's a conversation, right? I was very triggered, cause I'm looking crazy and you can see this? I'm sweating, you can see I'm looking nice,
Starting point is 00:30:39 you can see the hair. Like your job is to make sure I look good. I'm impressed, I'm behind every camera, I'm looking, you know I'm checking. See, but you are like a celebrity's favorite type of stylist. Right. You see the hair? Like your job is to make sure I look good. I'm impressed. I'm behind every camera. I'm looking. You know, I'm checking. But you are like a celebrity's favorite type of stylist. Right. Because you never have to worry,
Starting point is 00:30:50 am I looking crazy or is like my hair sticking out? You know what I'm saying? Whatever the case. You don't tell the makeup person, hey, do you see this? You pay attention to the whole world. Everything. Cause we all are together.
Starting point is 00:31:01 It's not the Kyah Wright show. Right. It's our show. Cause we all gonna look good together. Like even when you Kyah Wright show. It's our show because we all gonna look good together. Like even when you have to share clients. You might not always be, so Siri not gonna call me all the time no more. She's gonna call another artist. You can't be feeling away about it. You have to just know that you're good in your art. You got to move on and on and on and move to the
Starting point is 00:31:23 new lane and pivot like you said. Just keep pivoting and that's really been my goal is to stay relevant and to pivot and not to compete. Ooh, that's a nugget. Pivot and not compete. Pivot but don't be so competitive. I'm competitive with kying. Same, like with myself.
Starting point is 00:31:42 I'm like really like, even like looking at Instagram, I'm following people, I don't do that. I'm following people with nuts. Keep watching. But if you don't follow me, I'm gonna follow you. I don't even know. I'm so oblivious. I don't even know, but see my fans watch all day,
Starting point is 00:31:55 and they're like, oh so and so, I'm following y'all. All they did, boop. I'm following you, you might be the sweetest woman I know. Girl, you'd be surprised. Come on. You know, so. But really. Petty. I'll take it.
Starting point is 00:32:08 Petty. Call me Petty P. Yeah. Listen, because I'm all yours. As soon as I find that someone following, I'm like, oh. Okay. Exactly. So can you tell us anything about your product line, anything specific that you want us to know about? Yes. So basically, Muse Hair is my line. A muse for me is someone that inspires you. So I've always been inspired by my artists like yourself, different talent, and I'm your
Starting point is 00:32:36 muse as well. So Muse Hair was inspired by just you being my muse and inspiring me to create. That's number one. And I decided as a stylist, I wanted to have styling products. So a styling line is really what I focused on with my product line. Muse hair styling products. Perfect, I love that. I love that.
Starting point is 00:32:59 You also wrote a book called, From Beauty to Business, The Guaranteed Strategy to Building, Running, and Growing a Successful Beauty Business. Can you share some of the nuggets in your book that really can help people who are trying to jump in any type of entrepreneurship but specifically in a salon business? Hey Kips listeners, today I'm sharing everyone's favorite lunchtime indulgence, the double quarter pounder with cheese from McDonald's. It's the go-to that keeps you full and energized for the rest of the day. It's not just a meal, it's a whole experience. You know it's fresh when you feel that heat
Starting point is 00:33:29 through the bag. For those of us who know burgers, the McDonald's drive-through is all about the double QPC. When those burger cravings hit, nothing comes even close. Get a drip that's as far as your drip when you order a double quarter pound with cheese at McDonald's. Fresh beef at participating US McDonald's excludes Alaska, Hawaii, and US territories. Well, as a stylist, I think that first you should work on your craft, perfect your craft, be good at what you do first. Let's just start right there.
Starting point is 00:34:03 Let's start with like really perfecting your craft, spending time with it. I say three years is really what you do first. Let's just start right there. Let's start with like really perfecting your craft, spending time with it. I say three years is really what you should really, really focus on as a stylist, three to five, to be good, to find your niche, find out what it is that you love about styling hair because don't do it to hustle and to just to make money. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:34:22 And also I think now with Instagram University, I think that, you know, a lot of these stylists now just find one thing that they're good at. Like I only put on lace front wigs. And what they'll soon find out is like, that's gonna play out and now where are you gonna lie? Where are you gonna find yourself in this world of beauty? So finding your niche is a real big deal.
Starting point is 00:34:45 And the big question is always, what is your why? Like, why are you doing this? Where is it coming from? Like, what is it that you're passionate about in this whole thing? What keeps you going every day? Mine is making women feel and look their best. After every styling, there's a hug.
Starting point is 00:35:04 To get a hug is so endearing from a woman. Like she feels beautiful. Like, and she start dancing. Yeah. And she start dancing. That means she happy. And that's what you want when your clients leave you. And if you're not doing your friends,
Starting point is 00:35:20 you're probably not that good. Yeah. So, and just for me also it's no plan B. Like this was it for me. Yeah. And I'm not going to stop, you know what I mean? Till I get to where it is I want to be. And I think that's what you have to know as well. That's incredible. Yeah. I love it. Thank you, Kaia Wright. Thank you. So happy we got to do this. Yes. Yeah, this is so good. Yes. So when I think about your journey, I see a very driven woman who's been so focused on her career. How have you balanced that with love? Well, I think there has been some sacrifices. I always wanted children, so I haven't had any kids. I did freeze my eggs. So
Starting point is 00:36:05 there's still possibility. Making space for love is funny enough that you said that. When I was younger, I used to be obsessed with Tony Robbins. And he acts really like for me at like 18, 19 years old, I'm like, obsessed with this guy. I'm like, grab a please, can I get the 48 CDs, you know, about motivation and da da da da. So he taught me really early on, like about manifestation and like really like putting it out there, whatever you believe and see you can have. And so he asked this one question, he said,
Starting point is 00:36:38 what are the priorities in your life? And this is intense for like an 18, 19 year old, but I'm like, okay. So I, cause I used to journal, so I wrote it down. It was success, money, power, something and family is number five. This five is so symbolistic to my, I don't even know if that's a word, but this word
Starting point is 00:37:07 is symbolic to my life because I'm at the fifth chapter of my life. I'm 50. And family was number five. And my current boyfriend now always says, I love you. He stops me and I love you. And I'll be like, I love you too. I guess I should say that. Yeah, ooh.
Starting point is 00:37:28 You know what I mean? Like, but I feel it in my heart, but because my mom always said, I can show you better than I can tell you. That always kind of, is kind of, my love language is showing you my love of some sort. You know what I mean? And I think that now that's all I am made up of
Starting point is 00:37:46 is looking for love. Not even looking for it. Just being like, let me be more love. Let me have more time for people. I miss weddings. I've missed big dates. Like just being so detached from those things. Because when you lose someone so significant in your life, it's like you deal with a little bit of abandonment. And the abandonment is masked by this protection that you keep around yourself so that you're not hurt. And you don't even sometimes allow yourself to be loved because you don't even know how. You don't even know how. You don't even know how.
Starting point is 00:38:25 You don't even know how to be loved because you're like so busy moving, going, dodging and ducking it because you gotta, and whatever comes has to fit in my life. It has to fit in my life. Yeah, and I had to realize like, you know, even with dating certain men, if it didn't fit in my life, because if you take me off my journey,
Starting point is 00:38:43 I don't know if this is gonna work out. it didn't fit in my life, because if you take me off my journey, I don't know if this is going to work out. It has to fit in my life. So even when I talk to women about relationships, I don't like women that encourage me to bash or talk bad about men, because I have to be encouraged to love. Kaia, you know, I have to be like, if you be like, girl, he ain't shit,
Starting point is 00:39:01 like I know he ain't shit, but I have to be encouraged more the other way, because I could be tough on that side. I like to be like, be more loving and be more this. Yes, I like that conversation better than like the bashing kind. So I have to keep it in my life. I put it on my priority board. I write it on my inspiration board, my journals. It's all around me just like love. Like, so it's been a sacrifice, but now it's kind of like, it's time for it in my life.
Starting point is 00:39:29 I can attest to that too, yes. Definitely, people ask me, I do feel like a part of success is sacrificing love, because sometimes what a man needs, you can't really give that to them when you're so busy trying to make your dreams come true or to strive after certain things. So I definitely, I'm in that same boat, still don't have a man, still single, but I feel like that's a part of the sacrifice and I know that when it's time
Starting point is 00:39:52 God will make provision and everything will be in place. Yes he will and I believe he will make space. Like when people, it's a saying in LA they always say there's no men in LA, there's no men in LA. I'm like, that's not true. That might be true for you and your truth, but the truth is really what you believe. It really is. I-
Starting point is 00:40:13 You think the same thing for Atlanta? I don't think it's no bigger than Atlanta. I believe it. I believe because if that's the mantra in your head, your man can move to Atlanta. Come on now. He can move there. He really could move there and he's just for you.
Starting point is 00:40:29 That's just how God is. That's so true. Like, you know, I'm dating now, the man that's in my life, he was sent here for me. Even if it's for a time, he's here for me and God will only give me what I need. Absolutely. He really would. Like that's, it's like, he's done that for me in my life so many times. So many times. So hey, thank you God. I love it. I love it. This has been amazing. Thank you so much. No, thank you. I'm so proud of you. Yes, come on. I love you. Yes, I love you too.
Starting point is 00:41:01 I love you too. Now I can say it. There we go. There we go. So we're going to do, at the end of the show, we do what is called positive outcomes. Okay. This is where our listeners write in and we give them advice. Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:17 So this one says, Crystal, I absolutely loved Eva's episode and I love how she makes it a point to wear her locks no matter what character she plays on screen. Locks get such a bad name and have been reluctantly associated with beauty. I have a 23 year old daughter who works in corporate and is having a hard time coming up with professional ways to style her locks. I constantly reinforce that her locks are beautiful and she shouldn't have to wear a
Starting point is 00:41:41 wig at work to fit in. Can you please give her some advice on how she can feel comfortable going to work rocking her natural hair? There's a law that's called the Crown Act, where now that we can wear our hair however we seem fit, and it's okay. So I would tell your daughter, to one, like you tell her, your natural hair is beautiful,
Starting point is 00:42:03 it's what God blessed you with. And we, as African Americans, have certain ways that we show our blackness, and a lot of times it's through our hair. You know, whether it is walking the wig or red. Man or woman too. Yes, braids, locks. Our afro, our curly hair, whatever the case may be,
Starting point is 00:42:18 for so long we thought we had to straighten it to feel pretty. And I had fallen into that for a long time because I worked on Capitol Hill, so I felt like I had to wear my hair a certain way to fit pretty. And I had fallen into that for a long time because I worked on Capitol Hill. So I felt like I had to wear my hair a certain way to fit in. So I totally understand where she's coming from. But I think it starts with then knowing
Starting point is 00:42:33 that you are beautiful the way God made you and understanding that however, no matter, I think it was Indiari, I am not my hair. Like however you rock it, it's good, you know? So what are're gonna do since we have the legendary Kya Wright. I don't have locks but I got braids. So Kya is gonna play with my hair and give you a little, you know, idea. Should we do it right here? Yeah, let's do it right here.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Okay, we'll do it right here. Let me get behind you. We can talk about this. Okay. Okay, we're gonna start here so that we get a little dramatic. Okay, we're giving some drama. Okay, we're giving start here so that we get a little dramatic. Okay, we're giving some drama, okay? We're giving a little dramatics here. So, Kai, do you have women that work in corporate America that have natural hair that you may have to help style? Yes, one of the things that I'm loving about,
Starting point is 00:43:16 from braids all the way to locs right now, is first things first, what I would appreciate is that you keep them groomed. Because sometimes I think people feel like because they have locks, protective styles, they can just grow it out. It looks a little unkept. And I feel like just keeping it fresh,
Starting point is 00:43:32 a little bit of edge control can refresh in them. Even if you do just the hairline, keep them fresh, keep them groomed and shape them. I like shapes. Shapes really do help you just have a style. You can kind of create your own crown. I think perception is still perception no matter what. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:43:51 They're gonna still see you having locks. No matter what the crown X is or anything like that. Yes, it's okay. But the perception is still the same. Oh, you have locks. Because it's still new. It's very new. And I'm loving how the girls are putting, look at this,
Starting point is 00:44:05 they're putting hair in between. So it softens up the braid look and it takes a little bit of that beach summertime effect off and just kind of create shapes. As long as it's not in the face, they're not hanging down and you create some sort of look with them. I think that kind of will help people see you differently. It's almost like wearing like a ponytail,
Starting point is 00:44:27 but you kind of creating a shape of whatever you like with these locks. I mean, that's what I think when I think about locks. I just want to see like beautiful shapes and I want to see the edges groomed really nicely and just shape that hair to match your face. That's really what my goal is. Like not too many pieces hanging down.
Starting point is 00:44:45 I think that also makes people feel like, you know, they can see your locks. You should be able to see them, but I think they should feel shaped of some sort, like yours, they're so nice. Yes, we love snail locks. I should have pulled you in here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:59 Yeah. Okay. While you're doing this, Kyle, we're gonna do what I'm going through and what I'm growing through. And this is a part of the show that we do. And right now, I am going through balancing everything that is on my plate. I feel like if I'm not working, people are like, what are you doing your time off?
Starting point is 00:45:23 I'm still working. So I feel like right now it is balancing everything that I've prayed for. We said before, when we, before we sat down, Kaia like, girl, you're so busy. I'm like, yeah. And you're like, well, this is what you prayed for. And I'm like, it is.
Starting point is 00:45:36 So going through adjusting to how busy I am, but also balancing it all. What about you? I would say mine is, you hit it, transitioning. I would call it, I'm going through the big transition. Wow. And it is extremely uncomfortable. And I know that God wouldn't give me anything that I couldn't handle. Yeah, he won't, yeah. And I think transition is good. I think it's next level too.
Starting point is 00:46:12 You know what I mean? Like if you just stay in the same place, you won't grow. That's so true. So transitioning is obviously a part of the next level. Yeah, for sure, for sure. So. Transition. And if we had to leave the people with a key, we would fill in the blank.
Starting point is 00:46:27 We call it keep it blank, sweetie. If I want to leave people today, I would say keep it. Oh, I feel good, too. Nice and secure. She didn't even have no. I can't see. I have no tools or nothing. I can't give you the sweet woozle. You know, I can't see. I would say keep it fly, sweetie.
Starting point is 00:46:47 So how would you fill in the blank? Keep it blank, sweetie. Keep it reinventing, sweetie. I like that. I like that. That's what you do. You do it very well. Exactly. Thank you so much. Thank you. Oh yeah, she cute.
Starting point is 00:46:58 She cute. Oh yeah, okay. Here she is. I'm growing with a little hair down, a little half up, half down. Thank you guys so much for tuning in to this episode of Keep It Positive, sweetie. If you want to write into our Positive Outcomes
Starting point is 00:47:09 listening letter, write into keepitpositesweetie at gmail.com and that is sweetie with an I-E. You can follow me on all platforms at Love Chris Renee and that's L-U-V Chris Renee. Kaia, tell the people where they can find you. Kaia Wright one on Instagram or kaiawright.com. All right, guys, in the meantime, in between time,
Starting point is 00:47:27 you know what to do. Keep it positive, sweetie. We'll see you guys next time.

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