Keep it Positive, Sweetie - Let God Be God w/ Tye Tribbett

Episode Date: November 2, 2025

This week Tye Tribbett - 3x GRAMMY winner, pastor, and pure Holy Ghost energy has a seat on the KIPS chair! We talk faith, fame, and finding peace in God’s pace, not the industry’s. From growing up on gospel-only music to creating chart-topping “jambalaya” for Jesus, Tye gets real about slowing down, trusting God when you can’t trace Him, and why kings cry too.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Calling all my sweeties to the forefront. I'm your host, Chris Renee Azel, and this is the Keep It Posit Sweetie Show. Sweeties, I am so excited about our guest today. I'm a fan of his music, his ministry, and I cannot wait to get into this conversation. Please welcome husband, singer, three-time Grammy award-winning artist, Man of God, the one-and-only Thai tribute. You're here! Finally, right? I know.

We've been trying. How are you doing? Too good. I'm doing too good if that's the option. It is. I love that. I'm doing too good, too. I like that.

Just embrace that, right? Absolutely. Because there's so much going on. We can find things to pick it, but why? Why? Why? Not today. Too good.

Yeah. I love that. I love that. So happy you're here. I've been a huge fan of yours since you first started. You are incredible. I got to see you live. It was, I want to say, Kurt Franklin in the reunion.

Reunion. New Orleans. We were in New Orleans. We were New Orleans and Tyler. And I ran up on the side of same time. I was like, yeah. But I saw you before that, I think, in L.A. Yes. Um, in Wally-C-A-A-Word weekend. Yes. You and your wife on the, in the elevator at the hotel. We were waiting at the elevator. I think you was at the seat. Yeah. And I was like, babe, is that? Like, nah. Then you came up like, are you? And I'm like, are you? And we just did that whole game. Yes. Yeah. It was so cool. It was just cool that you were just a, you were just a sweet person. You know what? I tell people that all the time. Sometimes you, like, look

co-te people and you just love them for their artistry and then you meet them and you're like, which I never met them. I just want to keep my perception. But I was delighted that you, that was not the case with you. Same. Same.

Same. Yes. Your stage presence matches your presence in real life. Just energetic, bright. I absolutely love that about you. And I remember we left and Tyler was like, I've never seen Thai perform. He was like, my goodness.

Like he stood up the entire time you were on stage. I saw him in the back way. Oh my God, he's standing. Don't sing to him, sing to Jesus. Hey, Tape. I love Todd. That's my dear. Yes, no, me too.

Me too, yes. You have been one of the pioneers in gospel for a long time, and you've blended music, all different types of genres. What gave you the boldness to step out? You know, because sometimes, like, you want to stay in that lane, but you were like, no, I'm going to do this and do it my way. I'm going to bust out. I was a musician first, so I play all the time.

And I think playing at my dad. church. Small little church, but that small place gave me the huge freedom I needed. Yes. I didn't know I was crazy, wild, or different until I was at other churches. Really? Yeah, because they all know you at the church. It's the family church. And if you, you know, like you said, my energy matches on stage and off. Yeah. So it wasn't nothing to them that I was extra energetic and playing the craziest stuff at church. So I always had that eclectic mixture, that jambalaya of styles and all that stuff. Now, growing up, was very strict.

I couldn't listen to circular music. None of that stuff. Okay. Not going to like Whitney and Stevie. Nothing. When I say nothing, like, yeah, my parents were buried, Pentecostal, holiness, apostolic, no this, no earrings, no, whatever, no life. So I had to sneak and listen to Joe sample, yellow jackets, weather report,

jaco pasturist jazz musicians and that kind of opened me up to like whoa then i heard like james hall and worship and praise and his music was kind of crazy so i was like i'm gonna bring all this craziness to what we do at church so we were doing like the hymns like there's not a friend and i would be like i would put like do do do do do do do not a do do do do do do what's your daddy in the pulpit like he was a little nervous because you know the elders of the church stuff like that. But again, we was family and it was let me express myself. So being able to come into the industry with the same

freedom was a challenge. Yeah. Because now I was like, hold on, are you traditional? And I'm like, you know, I'm a little bit of everything. Y'all going to have to figure it out. Y'all got to figure it out. This is kingdom music, you know what I'm saying? Absolutely. That's what that came from. So what are some of the challenges that you face

in the industry and trying to navigate that sound? You're about to ask this question. This is the second question. That's loaded. That is loaded. What is some of the challenges I face at the industry one. Well, because you talk about how like the industry, like what you're doing. Let's talk about music lead. Yeah, yeah, musically.

And then we'll get there. Yeah. I love it. The placement. Where does your style go? And I didn't have an answer for that. I just had what I enjoy. I had what miss up.

I had my expression. I know this is how I connect the God. This is how I want to encourage people. But the rigid, the rigid is it country. Is it all of that stuff? And when I say challenges, it's not just questions. It's the changes they try to make to make you. You know, if you do this, we can put you in the hip-hop side.

If you do it, I'm like, yo, it is what it is. So we had a long time getting off our feet. I didn't come up in Streamville and social media. So, you know, if I had a concert, I was handing out flyers, like the big ditto sheets, like the colors. So I came, I'm about to age. myself for real right now. Chill, chill, chill, chill, chill. Don't do that.

So that was a challenge for me trying to just industrialize myself to be understood by masses and just not my church circle. So it took some tailoring, you know what I mean, so I can be understood by people and then I can get crazy. So, you know what I mean? So the first album was called Life album. That's kind of like I called that the producer's album. My producer on that was Jane Poyser, who's from the Roots crew.

Wow. And it was real, how can I say it, tame and real, you know, detail just have the elements. And I'm like, this is not how I am on stage, you know what I'm saying? But the studio, it was just really, okay, cool. Right. But when we got on stage to perform the studio stuff, it was like, is it the same song? So I feel like it's kind of like the Trojan Horse approach. Yeah.

You know, they'll let you in the gates because of the presentation. But once you're in there, you open up and give them everything you got. Yes. So that's what I did. Exactly. I love that. From the Prince of Egypt. Yes.

Crazy. I love that soundtrack to we're going to be all right. What have you done over these decades to, like, maintain the timelessness of your music? Because I can go back and listen to that to now. And it's like, it still goes. But I got what you said. You know what I'm saying? You know what I was saying?

Yeah, we won a gospel music competition choir. competition and then the producers from the movie came to put us on the album and I was like, whoa. I think just staying authentic and being really who you are, people who have followed my music have grown with me, the person. I don't have writers, I don't have producers like that. I have people that help produce stuff like that. But for the most part, you're getting my thoughts, where I am in life. And I think people just feel me. I think they feel me and my expression. And I think when we start to strategize around what worked, oh, you did victory, you need another victory.

You got to do another go-go-go joint. I ain't never do another go-go joint. I'll say, nope, I'm going to leave that thing alone. You know what I mean? I ain't going to read everything. You need another everything. No, I don't. That everything is everything.

So once you try to like make it a formula, I think, you dilute the authenticity and the power of what you do. Now I'm serving a system and not to save you, you know what I mean? And I don't want to do that. I took that role and served the system. It's not really authentic to me, but it's Saul's armor. You understand what I'm saying? It's like, okay, I'll try it y'all way.

I probably can win a little bit, but I know what I need to win. And I've got to stay authentic to that. And that's when Giants come down when I stay tied, whether people understand it or not, get it and not, like it or not. I'm just going to be true to me. And whoever is called to hear what I do, pull up a chair. We're going to have a good time tonight. Absolutely, you will.

Yes. What in your creative process like? You said you don't really have writers. No. You produce everything yourself as well? Produced for the most part. With me, I got a team. Now my man, Joe Bithea, shout out to Joe Bithea.

Between he and myself, we produce everything. My creative process is life. I don't know. It's very hard for me to, songs hit me like, I guess, like, I say how a dog has puppies. I don't know why I say that, but I get like five at a time.

Oh, wow. done for five months. I'm not like a writer. Yeah. Wow. You know what I mean? Like, oh, Kirk need a song. You know, I need a song. Yeah, yeah. I got, I don't consider myself a writer, but I get waves of like, whoa, he's speaking. You know what I mean? Like, okay, I got to say so. I get waves of like six songs at a time. Then I just, you know, just go to my piano and just feel it.

Or I go and just play. If I like the vibe, oh, they don't dance to this. Yeah. What's a good song that they can have joy to? You know what I mean? If I'm feeling it, it's like that. I can watch a movie. I can hear a commercial. I'm creative. You know how it is. It can be anything. My wife, y'all, okay, I have a new song on my new album. It's called The Hills. Remember this when it comes out. It's called The Hills. This song came. My wife and I have this bed, whatever, the bed, you know, sits up and do all that stuff. But the vibration thing on the bottom, right?

So the thing was like making a, mm-hmm. That's the sound of the vibration was making under the bed. And my wife, I'm sorry, babe. She started snoring. right? I didn't put it asleep. So the snow was like, she was like, hmm. And I was like, I heard it, mm-hmm. I was like, oh my, so I woke up at 3 in the morning, like, let me get dressed and go to the studio and just do,

and as I'm walking to the studio, I hear, hold your head up. And I'm like, oh my gosh, so all these, the lyrics started coming, almost like every step to my little studio in my house. It seemed like the lyrics came. came every step. So I'm going to give her a half credit on that song because she snored it into existence. But even a snore can inspire it.

So I can't really give you an answer on what that could be. Whenever it hit, I just try to let it happen. That is fascinating. You know what I mean? Oh, my goodness. That's crazy, right? That is crazy. People are going to be snoring out.

Like, baby, you better do a hit after this snort. Yes, right. He's speaking of the end of just being in certain moments of time. Where were you when Same God right now? when he did before it came out. And when you wrote that, when it came to you. We have another song on the Victory album called No Other Choice. I have no other choice but to trust you.

At the end of that song, the band is just jamming. Yeah. When we used to do that song live, I would no other choice but to trust you. I'd be like, It did it before. He can do it again. All I have was staying guy right now.

That's all I had was the hook for a year. Then I said, I want to make that a song. Let me just put verses on it. So it kind of happened at a show and then kind of all how only one night they'll have. It kind of happened in the moment. Just let it happen and then later put verses to it. I never knew people would love it like that. I know it hit me.

I know I felt it. And I'm glad if, you know, other people feel the same way. It's amazing how it happens. A lot of stuff happens on stage in the moment on stage me. I can feel the people. I know exactly where the band is. I feel like James Brown. I know everything.

I hear the high hats. I know everything. The background singers, it's like I'm in this, you know, that's my favorite space to create. Yeah, I can't imagine what it's like being in your body as a musician and then hearing everything. And you're probably like oversimulated a little bit. There's a song out now that I have on the Only on the Road album

that I just put out an album, y'all. It's called Tie Tribute Only on the Road. It's really stuff you'll hear only when I'm on the road, like those flow moments and spontaneous moments. Yes. There's a moment. It's a worship track on there called the Yahweh flow. And we're singing Yahweh. We're singing Yeshua. And I'm hearing all these songs while we're singing Yeshua. So I just did them. And if you hear the song, you just hear all these songs. And yes, you to worship you, I live. Let all the other names fade away. You hear all of this in one. So if y'all get a chance, check out the Yahweh flow.

on the only on the road CD and you'll get a little taste of the craziness of how my thoughts are on the stage. It's amazing though you know what I mean? If you just allow it to happen it's fascinating. I love it wow thank you it's amazing you are welcome you're also a three-time Grammy

award winning artist that is the pinnacle for an artist right I know we're serving Jesus but what did that moment feel like thank you when you got you know because some people like forget like no like we're doing these things and it is we do want to be recognizing to that level as well. What do that feel like? The day I got the two Grammys came on the same day. Wow. For greater than one for same God and one for greater than the album. It was January 26th on my birthday. I got two my first two Grammys.

On your birthday. Yes. God is in the details. Do you understand? I was like it was too much stimulation, too much. We got my wife and I got back to the hotel room that night and I'm holding the grant I got the grammy's like I the nomination was amazing it was like my sixth nomination but I was just happy to be nominated again so when two was like so I sat there with my wife like and I this is I ain't trying to be nothing but tie right now I realized in that moment that I ignored so much to achieve this so I'm looking at my wife like and she's happy for me she's like yeah bitch she's gonna ride but I was like I miss so many. I guess not realize how much I miss so much, but I realize how empty that is.

Yeah. I'm grateful for the Grammys. Don't get me open. I hope this I'll get another Grammy because it means something to who it means something to. I open the Grammy. It's not a check in the Grammy. It wasn't any opportunities that came out the Grammy. It wasn't even no confetti in it. It's just a piece of metal that probably costs $13 to make. So I don't disrespect it. I don't dishonor it, but it means something to who it means something too. And it helps me get access and more platforms to scream Jesus even louder. So now that I have them, I realize I put too much energy towards achieving them personally. I could have paid attention to a lot more things along the journey instead of just the destination.

So I'm grateful for it, though. It's amazing opportunities that come in this world through that. So I'm taking full advantage of it. Again, I want more Grammys for that, though. You know what I'm saying? Now I'm sober about it. Now I'm level-headed about it. Now I'm a little more balanced about it.

It's not so much. I need the next. It's not my life support. It ain't my IV. It ain't my source. It's a resource to raise people's eyebrows. Does that mean something to? You know what I mean?

And no shade. If it does raise your eyebrows, I'm, you know. Yeah. I'm very chill about it. Yeah. I didn't even want to go. If you asked, Kev, the last Grammy, I won. Oh, my gosh, this story is crazy.

So, you know, they got Grammy parties all week, so starting Wednesday. You want to go to Wednesday? I was like, no, I ain't go. I'm home. Thursday, no, Friday, no. Saturday, no. They're like, Ty, Sunday is the Grammys. Like, are you on a come?

So Friday night, I'm sitting in, I'm with my wife like, yeah, man, I don't even off on. Yeah, I was up against me. I mean, some people who I usually take it home. Yeah, take everything home. Yeah, I know I go. I know I go. Let them, let them have it. I ain't going to waste my time.

But my wife would tell you, just go, show your face, let them know you're not dead. Because sometimes if you don't go a place, they think you're dead or you're not alive. I'm here. Let me let them know I'm alive. Yeah. So I just really got, just do something in a bag Friday night. Like, all right, I'm going to go. I got on the latest flight Friday night.

Got there Saturday, did the festivities. And then Sunday, they announced my name. I got it on video on my phone. I should have posted it. I was like, let me record this. I was like, oh, my God. And that's why you got it, though, because of your heart posture. You know, you weren't coveting it.

No. It wasn't like, I got to have this. Yeah, between achievements and disappointments, it took the steam out of the covet, covetousness. You know what I mean? I'm not even going to say it was God. I ain't going to lie and say God. Between achieving it and not getting it,

it kind of like, all right, this can't be what this is about now because my emotions and my feelings is too up and down. And I don't like anything, I haven't had that much control over that. So I'm good. I get it or I don't. Yeah. Yeah, there's a saying that with great success come sacrifice. And you said that when you got back to the hotel room and you had both of those grimmies in your hands,

you looked at your wife and thought about everything that you had missed that on. What are some of those things that you missed out on that you look back and that you've corrected now that you had that moment? You're like, wait a minute, I can't keep doing this. Yeah. I say now is more of a balanced thing. However, I felt like I missed a lot of my family. I missed a lot of the development. I mean, I know this sounds typical, but we get in that zone and it's just like, da, da, da, da, da.

It's a creative thing. Yes. And I felt like I was present. I felt like I was there. But they knew how to adjust to me. Wow. Yeah. They love me.

They're going to rock with me. They're going, we're good. Yeah. So I thank God for my wife. Shantay, shout out to you. Baby, I love you so much. My kids are emotionally, healthy, mentally, healthy, spiritually, healthy, healthy, largely because of her presence. Yes.

Presence there. So I missed a lot of, I felt like I missed a lot of, those moments, because, okay, all right, all right. Like, if you're good, you good. You good, right. But sometimes dead, you know what I mean? I don't like that that happened, and I didn't sit for that a lot of times. I was like, okay, I know you ain't like it, but can I, are you all right, though?

You know, just slowing down, being present. And it hadn't really, it's not really the career. My personality is, as you can see, I'm just a ball of energy. It's just da-da-da-da-da-da. I had to learn. I cut my face on the, uh, The reunion tour, when I was on the tour, I had an accident at the house in my closet, literally jumping up to get a pair of shoes and came down like on one of the extensions in my closet.

Slice my whole face open up and me, I can, do the white meat. Oh, my goodness. My wife took me to the hospital. I was like, I'm going to have to cancel the rest of the tour. They stitched me up, praise God, put a mask on. But in that, I was saying, in that, I heard God say, yo, slow down. Oh, down, yeah. It's like, you had to tell me like that.

There's other ways. Like, I understand English. You could have rode it somewhere. He had to slice my face up there. He was really trying to get your attention. He was not mindful of a lot of things. Mindfulness. You understand what I'm saying?

I'm not that. I'm like, I'm the type that will jump off the stage. Like, how high is it? You know what I mean? As you're going down. And I'm going down, how high was that? And my wife was like, let me see first. She's more calculating and stuff like that.

So I need a little bit more of that, you know what I mean in my life. So I won't miss the simple beautiful things because those are the major beautiful things. Because when I went after what I thought, all of that stuff, it's so empty. Isn't it crazy how you can get there? The thing that you dreamed though since you were a kid and it's like, you finally get there and it's like, this ain't even what I thought it was. The gratitude is there. All of that is there. But the fulfillment is not.

God is like, I'm just reserving that. I tried every step in the way I was telling you. Yeah, it's like, it's in me. It's in him. So once I learned that, I was like, oh, okay. So I'm not at anyone else's disposal or pace but his. You know what I mean? It's a liberating thing.

And I can see that now that, you know, a lot of times you can see things kind of wearing away at people when they're focused on the wrong thing. I can tell the joy that you care is because they're not focused on the wrong things. I'm trying not to. Try not to. Life is lifeing. Everything is everything. Do it ever stop. You just like, huh.

It does not stop. It does not stop. So we have to find us of peace space. We've got to find a, the Bible says the name of the Lord is a strong town, the righteous run into it, and they are safe. So we have a safe place we can go no matter how much life is life in. We just got to trust it and be good with it. Yeah.

Because I think a lot of times God offers us remedies. for life's hardships, we just don't like it. Right. I don't want to eat healthy to be healthy. Right. I want to eat chicken and be healthy. I'm a pray. Right, chicken, yeah.

So the remedies a lot of times. That's why you have to become a new creature. I feel like everything has a pace and you just choose what pace you want to be on. You can be on industry pace, which is hurry up and weight. You can be on God's pace, which is whenever I say you move or whenever I don't, you don't, it's the fire in the cloud. You don't move until he, you don't. That's God's pace, or you can move on your pace, whatever I want to do. I'm trying to get on that fire in the clouds.

As much as possible, because then all the problems are handled in his pace. I'm thinking about how Jesus conversed with people. And even when Peter, the boat was filled, and Peter was like, whoa, they boat was singing. All the fish, yeah. And he said, Jesus, get away from me. I'm a sinful man. And Jesus said, man, come follow me. I'll make you fish as a man.

Most people that talk to Jesus, he said, follow me, follow me. It wasn't, change that, fix that. Peter said, I'm a sinful man, and he didn't pray a prayer of deliverance for him. Follow me. Each step, each step, the fire in the cloud heals. The fire in the cloud corrects. The fire in the cloud sanctifies at his pace. You understand?

The 10 lepers, the Bible says, as they went, they were cleansed. So each step was another level of cleansing and healing. And I think I want to get at that pace right there because I've ran to the, I've marched to the beat of industry drums and I don't like it. I don't like it. I could be in it but not of it. You understand what I'm saying?

I know. You know, I know. Because how do you deal with that? Because everything, it's the same thing. It's fast-paced. But you want to have clarity in your mind. You want to have sobriety and your thoughts. You want to have solidity in your decisions

But how do you do that? I mean, you've got to have a regimen as well. Yeah, every morning, in the word, studying. You know, last year I went through the Bible, but I didn't really understand it. You just read it. And now I'm going back through to really understand so that I can, when people ask me,

so I was telling Candy the other week, I was like, I'm not a Bible quoteer, but like I can remember something that was, and then I can look at, here's the scripture. I know it's in there. And you can tell me something like, then he said it. Let me double check.

Because you know what he said, I have enough now, like to know what he said. And I'm not a pastor. I'm like, no, but I love that. You know? I love that because if you know the truth, you can recognize the lies. Exactly. That's a lot of our problems. We don't, we hear things.

And that's why I love about Dr. Deaden's. Me too. Shout out to Dr. Danz. I love you, brother. Yes, he'd be like, listen, don't take my word for it for yourself so that you know, because he started quoting stuff and we were offense. She said, they ain't what it said. We were like.

He said, you've been taught wrong all your life and you're just over here repeating stuff. And they went to learn it for yourself. I was like, oh, my soul are not the wrong thing. Just right, I mean, loud and wrong. Just so loud and wrong. I was like, oh, my God. But I think that is probably the most important thing right now, the swore of the spirit, the word.

Because I feel like we're in an age of deception. You know what I mean? That's with AI and the internet, social media. We're talking about social media. Literally, you can't even believe what you see now. No, no. You know what I mean? You have to know.

You got to know the truth. You got to know him. That's going to be your only anchor, your only foundation. Yeah. Otherwise, you're going to be going with the wind. And the way these winds is blowing. Listen. I wouldn't trust that.

That's real. I'll be anchored. Yes. And that's where I am right now. My wall is just anchored and, like, trusting him and just wanting to live more like Christ. I love that. You know, they're like, we're in the industry, but we're not of the industry.

Yeah. Yeah. I understand that. God put us here for sure to, like, be a light. Be a light. To be his light, to let him shine. So how people don't. don't always understand that because, you know, light shines in darkness.

So if we're in, I want to say, dark places or maybe someone will not understand the industry you're in, if you do that, like, you know what I mean? They don't understand assignments. Yeah. You know what I mean? They don't understand calling. They don't understand good things. And they don't understand personal purpose.

Yeah. Every person has the, as sure as you got your own fingerprint, you have a unique, you know what me thing you got to do for God and might look different and stuff like that I just want us to like chill on each other a little bit yeah man let God be God only God is God let him handle that you know what I mean we got to stop yes you understand what I'm saying that's why I feel like I was talking to a friend I feel like so many people walk away from the Christian faith let's talk about that for the yeah because of the judgment and the ridicule instead of accountability and saying hey sis let me pull your side yeah I've been where you are

because what I think happens we get saved we forget who we used to be let me bring this, Micah. You have preaching. You are preaching. You forget. And I'm like, how do you forget? Like, remember where you were. We were not all sanctified and saved and filled the Holy Ghost our whole entire lives.

And even when you are, you still slip. I'm about to say, they still are now. I love all the mothers, all the ushers. I love all y'all. But we go. Come on, y'all. Did you grow up in church or no? I did.

Oh, yeah. Listen, every time the doors of the church opened, we was in there. So you know what I'm talking about? Yes, just chill. We all are on a journey. We all need the grace. of God. And I think, you know, once we really are honest about that, we can get a real connection with the people who come to the church or who want to come to the church. I don't think

the church is like, let's change the subject. No. See, you better say what you're going to say. I think the church is what? Yeah. Now you're trying to figure out. Yeah, now I'm trying to figure it out. But I want us to lead people to Christ and God. The most, the most. motives of a lot of churches are there the church. Yeah. And I love church. We need that. But if the hardest to point them to Christ,

I think will our vocabulary be a little bit different. I get up on Sundays and live. Shout out, Lived, Church, Orlando, if you're ever in Orlando, come check us out. You don't know, I don't have, blah, blah, right? I'm a little, I don't know. I'll get up and be like, you know you don't have to come here to have a connection with God, right?

You know, you don't have to be in the field of everything. I don't know how many pastors do that and I'm not encouraging everybody to do that but it's that it's disarming them like oh he ain't he ain't trying there's no manipulation there there's nothing like that is disarming and it's let

you know like listen I'm here for you I love you I want to connect you to Christ you don't have to come to this building and get God you don't have to you know what I mean do all that stuff but this gathering this place is for fellowship

right for encouragement and to hear the word of the Lord but you can hear the word of the Lord you probably don't know what you hear you know what I mean a lot of stuff might be confirmation to what you already heard I lean into people's personal relationship I lean into like

not like and next Sunday we're going to continue and that's nothing wrong with that but I don't want to draw people to me or the church because I'm not going to be there when the next pandemic hit y'all come on

I'm not going to be at church people live at home they don't live at the church so you need to get you don't live at your job you don't live at your business you don't live outside you live at home.

If I need God anywhere, he needs to be there. I need to make a grid. Yeah. So that's what I tried to push. That's where we live. That's where we need the most of everything. So I don't know if a lot of churches, you know, do that.

Churches is our business. They are all of those things. And when we focus more on getting more to our thing. That's when it goes. Yeah. I love everything. I love my church shirts and all. I love all of that stuff.

I personally wouldn't do that. I love the God of my church. Yeah. You know what I mean? I love the God of my church more than I love the church of God. Yeah. Wow. That is deep.

That's just tie. Yeah. That's just tie. And I don't know if a lot of people are ready for that conversation because to a lot of people, it's synonymous. To a lot of people, God and the church is the same. He is not. Come on. Only God is God.

Yes. The church is supposed to be his body, the real church. But that's the whole. the conversation. Listen, you had have a two part. Part two. We'll come back for part two for that. But it's real. Yeah, it's so real. And that difference, that separation. Yeah, that differentiation.

It's necessary. Yeah, it is very necessary. I grew up with people who had, they, they broke their knee. Ooh, you got to come to healing service Friday night. I can't wait till Friday. Girl, I'm going to bring you Friday. You're going to get healed. It's Tuesday. Right. I need help now.

I got to wear this band just till Friday. Like, so the dependency on the church should not be. It should be dependency on God. Jesus. That's so good. Ty, come on now. I'm chilling. I'm chilling.

Church is Sunday, not the day. Every day. Every day. We should tag team preach. We already dressed like. You know what I'm saying? Okay, go ahead. My friend is Brenda Palmer and she always tells.

She's like, Crystal, you're a pastor. I'm like, no, I'm not. And she was like, stop fighting. And she said, hey, you're a prophet. I said, Brenda. Now, I do be prophesying. Now, I do do that. But don't do the past things.

I'm not about these passwords. Now, do you not think that because of the structure of what the pastor looks like now? Yeah, just even like knowing the Bible. I feel like when I see people who can quote the Bible backwards and forwards, I'm like, I feel like that's what a pastor should be able to do so that any time they're leading someone, they can like, I have scripture to back this up. You know what I'm saying?

To really know it. It's a steward of it. Yeah. I mean, people disqualify themselves because of what they think. But again, as you go. If God says, come as you go. Yeah, if he says it, yeah. Every step, you'll get more and more scriptures.

Yeah, that's true. That's true. I think now I'm even like, because at first I'm just like, I'm not a Bible quota. Like, I'm just trying to live like Jesus and know the words that I can live more like. Because I do feel like sometimes people can know the Bible backwards and forwards but are not a reflection of Christ. I don't want to be that person. Amen.

You know what I'm saying? Yes. Thank you for that. Integrity and character. That's what that's called. Exactly. Thank you. I do not want to be that.

Yeah. So I'm definitely open to whatever God has to me, but when it comes to assignment and even working in the industry and people may be like, but I look at everywhere I go, I don't, it doesn't care if I'm at a Christian conference or a basketball game or in the mall shopping. They know Fatima, but when they learn about Crystal, it's always you brought me closer to Christ. Because you, I'm going to church, because you, I'm going to church, because you have found a church home. And it was in those conversations, I realized, aha, that's the assignment. That's the assignment right there. Yes, it's the true character, not Fatima. Right, right, you're already doing it.

And I hate when people's gifts, oh, why do you have me on the mic on this show? I don't like, I don't, okay, I'm going to talk like Todd. I hate when people's gifts are only activated during service times. If you're a profit, how come it only work when you got the mic and the service? What happened at Walmart and Target? Like, why do you need an audience for your gift to work? Come on.

It might not be what you're, it might not be authentic. So I don't trust all that stuff If you're a preacher, I should be having a conversation With you, I'm like, whoa, did not our hearts burn With this? Yeah, you understand what I'm saying? So I don't like the church-activated gifts. I don't trust them. Come on.

I don't trust. I sing at home. I play at home. I prophesied, preach, whatever. We're doing it right now. Fellowship, worshiping God, I do it. Everywhere I'm at in the car, it don't even matter. Yeah.

Because that's who I really am. If it turns on at a certain time, I don't know if it's who you are. It's what you can do, but I don't know this is who you are. Okay, now. I'm done. Turn the cameras off. Thank you all for having me.

This is keep it pipe. Until next time. You can do it, but is it who you are. Right. No, this is the conversation that needs we had. I love that we can have a real raw conversation. Let's do it, yeah. Because it's so true.

Yeah. And we are, we're trying to win Social Christ in a time where people are hungry. They're seeking guidance because they feel lost. And you can see it because you see how like, I just saw, somewhere where the um the sales of the bible has skyrocketed yes because people they they need some type of foundation you know life is life they're like okay let me go and try that you get a quickening and it's like life is like okay but they know and that's a good thing though that means at least they know what they're turn to you know what I mean at least and that's that's all the help yeah it makes

me happy when I hear things like that. Me too. But you talked about the next pandemic, I'm not going to be in church, I'm going to be at home. And it was during the pandemic when you wrote Anyhow. Ooh.

Ooh. Ooh. A friend of mine gave me a track. I was sitting with it for months when the pandemic hit. We grew up church. So Hallelujah anyhow is like an old saying, I mean, grandma used to be an old song.

Uh-huh. And that's kind of what I wanted to say. In that moment, I just felt an inaccessory type song. Like, I felt the people. I felt the world. And the track is just, it's just so booming and death. And so I wanted to start with always like kingdom perspective. I don't want to get too much of mine or the world.

So I know the plans that you have for me. Jeremiah 29, man. We just talked about finding. We just talked about finding. I'm talking about. Playing for me to prosper, and not harm me. See, I know a little bit.

Yes. I'm in the book. Why? You in the book? So there's somewhere between Gentuses and Revelations. And Revelations. Not revelation. Revelations.

Because he gave a lot of them in that book. Oh, God. This is great. We're not going to get nothing done, y'all. So just go ahead and enjoy this. My mindset at the time is the world is shut down. People who don't know what to do. The churches are closed.

We don't know what to do. How should we be thinking? What can I serve the people that will help their psyche to help what they should be thinking? The first service I gave was, we're going to be all right. You know what I'm saying? I like that. It was a bop.

I think a lot of songs that was coming out at that time was slow and it helped me. And I was like, oh, my God. You need to pick me up. Yo, yeah, we could be encouraged with a bop. Yes. So thank God. That was the first. And we needed that vibe.

Heated it, right? And so when the second one came, I felt more of that, you know, that, you know, so what should our thought process be? Well, I want to think about his promises right now because I can't see. So, okay, I know, I know you have good plans for me, remind yourself of that. So if people were to take those lyrics, they would literally be rewiring their thoughts, you know what I'm saying, by reminding themselves of the promises of God. And then no matter what comes my way. Hallelujah. It's just like, y'all, it's taking the oomph out of anything that can hit you, y'all.

Right. I said, oh, my Lord, I forgot the lyrics. I'll be doing the same thing. Never fear of some of the control. The storm is here, but I'm sleeping the boat. That. Jesus was sleep when the storm came, not just a storm. They thought they were going.

going to die. He said, cares not that we're about to die. And these are fishermen talking so they understand crazy weather. So it had to be extreme storms. Yes. That Jesus was not just, he was sleep. What kind of peace? What kind of power? What kind of security is that? Yes. Oh, if he can have that, I can chill. And he tells us, feel the scripture, feel the scripture for me. This is one I don't really like, but we've got to eat it, y'all. Let not your heart be troubled. Don't let it. Wait a minute.

You make sure my heart is good, God, no. That's your responsibility to be in trouble but not troubled. My God. I'm trying to get out of this place. It is your responsibility to endure trouble and not be trouble. My Lord. How? How.

There has to be some type of level of trust that I have. have to learn and just accept like, yo, my mom used to say when I can't trace them, I'll trust them. So that anyhow was some of the fuel to give us that solidity in the winds, you know what I mean? Like, hey, I know him who I believe. He ain't let me down yet. Same guy, pull any song you want. Yeah. I don't care how new this thing is moving me. He's the same God. Yeah. And if he's the same, I'm going to come out of this. That's a challenge. I'm not saying I'm there. Yeah.

It's a challenge to have that mindset in it. I'm on the chair talking to you right now. I can say it. When life is lifeing? Yeah. Like last night, I got to change the term now. You ain't going to like that.

But when it's doing that. Life is not that bad. That's right. How could we, how could we grab this thought in that moment? Hopefully songs will help bring us back to that. That's what I want to do through anyhow. I love that. That's good. Yeah. And I think a lot of times also, like you said, it's something you're still learning. We feel like as soon as we get saved and turn our life over, that

we're just supposed to have it all together. Last night, I had the premier for the team of season four. We were, thank you. We were leaving. And my assistant told my guy who watches my cars, hey, when you leave, just push the bottom lock in when you leave. He said, okay, cool. He has the keys to my car that have the keys to my house on the keys. So he puts the keys back in the mudroom like he always does, locks the door that goes into the house. So I opened up my garage with my phone, and I'm like, I look at Herman, I said, Herman, he locked us out of the house.

My heart was troubled. I hear you right now. I was experienced. And it's like, you know things you're working on. I was like, I lost that split second. I was like, Lord, forgive me. Because I did like, like literally. But I had to remind myself, he's still working.

We have to find that anger expression that doesn't lead us to prolonged anger or sin. Because it says be angry, but sin not. So we're allowed to get that. We're allowed to get upset. Yeah, that was upset. For where we're... Because I was ready to go to sleep. You probably know where to find that scripture.

Oh, be angry and send out. That's proverb, too. Oh, I know that. I don't know all that. I know. And not your heart hurt. that's for me i understand that anger is a thing yeah i understand i understand i understand i understand everything we all are dealing with that and we have to navigate that there's certain there's

certain things that are like non-negotiables with god and certain things he let us have like i mean anger you know what i'm saying like whoa how well how far do i take this guy you know what i'm What I'm saying? How many words can I use? How many? He's like, right, now don't get carried away. Right. He's like, all, chill back. Right. He's such a just. He's like, he's like, right. But see, the fact that you can sense him doing that. That's the good thing.

Oh, he, well, I tell you, he yugged me up so quick. That's good. Because I laid it out, and it was just like an instant calm. And like, calm down. Like, I was like, it's going to be all right. And then my makeup artist broke into my door and it worked out. Oh, okay. Good to have some hood people.

around it. I'm not calling you with it. I'm sorry. It was so funny because Herman goes, you got to be from Harlem. Shout out Harlem. Shout out NYT. I love y'all. You got to be from Harlem. It was so funny. Like, I got in the bed and I texted

and I was like, I am still laughing. You got to be from Harlem. Harlem is crazy work, y'all. He actually from Orlando. Oh. Shout out of Orlando. I just thought of him. about it? Well, I'm from Jersey. I live in Orlando now. So you had to say? Yeah, I get it. That's why

when you said Harlem. I was like, yeah, we need some prayer. Right. He's like, hold on, girl, I got it. I said, oh, we get dead boats on this door. Hey, said, period. This is not happening to me again. Hello. And I was thankful with, I was like, thank you, Lord. I get it. When I saw the light from the kitchen come through out there, oh, thank you. It's all right. It's all right. So how do you feel after, I'm going to call it rage, after our rage moments, In retrospect, is it embarrassing? I didn't take all that, or is it? No, in that moment, it was so embarrassing.

Because, like, I'm fasting right now, and I'm very, like, susceptible to all energies, and I feel everything. And in that moment, it was just, like, a split second of human crystal, you know, that just came out. And it was uncontrollable. Like, I didn't even, like, but as soon as it happened, I felt him say, calm down.

I was like, and it was just, like, peace. I was like, like, it almost didn't even happen. Like, the anger just instantly went away. And I was like, okay, and then after I was like, I'm over here, like, you know what saying, encouraging people. Like, you can't be doing that, you know? So it was like a little bit of shame and, like, embarrassment. They saw me get out of character, but in the same time, don't be liking my keys in the house.

Don't be doing, don't be doing. I got a long day. I was thinking about tomorrow. Yes. I was like, I got three episodes. I got to be up early and I can get up at 4.30. I'm already an hour and a half behind going to sleep because I've been on this schedule. So, like, I think that's a part of, like, regimented people and people who are

super successful, we're hyper regimented. So once I get fixated on the schedule, it's like, all right, I'm already, because I had to work, I'm already an hour and a half behind getting in bed, and now I'm locked out the house. But you psychologically planned out how your day and night should go. So I can start it right with God in the morning,

and here I am personally. And when it doesn't go that way, because of someone else, it gets kind of, this morning. Like last night, I did, you know, another show, and then I got in so late. Yeah. And I was like, all right, let me get my clothes off for tomorrow. I don't feel like, I'm not going to iron the night.

I'm not ironing the night. I'm going to bed. I went to bed. I said, I'm going to iron. When I get up in the morning, I'm going to iron my little, this little thing. I got up, and there's no ironing board in the room. So I'm like, hey, how you doing? Could I have an ironing board? Sure, we should have that up between 30 and 45 minutes. I'm sorry. I'm leaving in 20. I needed no. So I had all this anxiety. I had back in college iron on the bed. Do you understand? Let me tell y'all what I did. And do not laugh at me.

I put this thing on the hanger, the pants thing. on the hangar, open that shower. Oh, good sting. Yeah, that's smart. And let that thing stink, shut that thing. I walk in there, like, ah, ah, resourceful. Do you understand? Hopefully I'm not too rankled today, but I try. Do you understand?

Just the slightest thing going off of what you plan could just cause it. Because you have to compensate immediately. You have to come up with something immediately. It's almost like something going wrong on stage, like the sound going out. to figure out. In the moment, yes. I'm going to keep everybody together and my crew and fix the problem. The show goes on.

Mm-hmm. Thank God I grew up in an old school church where anything happened all the time, so I learned a lot of remedies. Come on, grab your hands to give them glory. Right. Y'all figure it out now. Like, Beyonce, somebody's getting fire. Lights.

Lights. Lights. exactly you got to learn that so it's all right you know that's understandable but i thank god we have help with all of that yes absolutely and i don't consider that a fail crystal yeah thank you i don't thank you i don't if you can sense god's correction it's not a fail when you can't sense it that's a fail okay now you're about to have me crying up here that's a fail okay that's a fail Even with sins and things, and when we fall, a just man fall seven times. But you just got to hear him say get up.

It's the people that can't hear him say get up. To me, that's a fail. And that's my opinion. So I just wanted to encourage you. Don't do that again. Right. If you do that again now, you know better now. Do better.

Right, right, right, right, right. No, for sure. Thank you for that. You already know, yeah. Yeah, no, for sure. I do want to know how has fatherhood and marriage shape the music that you create. Whoa. Because you talk about your wife and your children.

Yeah. Marriage and kids help my music in that. It keeps my anxiety. No, I'm just playing. I married my wife at 21. She was 18. I was 21. So before my career started, she was already with me.

She came to one of the first rehearsals, joined the choir. So she's part of my whole. When we saw her, you were like, that's my dream. Not in that key, but the same song. He was like, that's my queen. Yeah, there you go like that. I'm a small family church. Everybody in this church are my cousins.

Right, right. If any guests come, me and my brother's like, no, that's me. That's me. Yo, chill, chill, chill. Chill. Yes. That was me in Martin, Tennessee. Really?

That's me. That's me. Chill, chill. I don't care if she was Fiona, yo. We're just going to at least get the name. I love it. When she walked in, my eyebrows went all. all the way to my hair, I like, no, yo, shit, you know, just that kind of funny thing amongst

the band. And so we talked, so from there, we just started kicking it. I always liked how she thought. She's not religious. She don't think, like, the average church lady with the big hat, and I love all church ladies with the big hats. But she doesn't think along those lines. Her relationship with God are not along religious lines.

It's relationship. So I was hooked on that from young age before she even really knew, you know, how tapped if she was right so that helped shape my music as far as relationship with god period and she was like tie some songs you've got it's just too pretty wow it's too pretty for those you that know music there are major keys minor minor my wife loves the minor so if i'm in there like do do do do do do do do she's like oh my god she don't do that because she won't be like hey why you do that but she needs she needs that minor, that thing, that, that depth. I call it the deepness.

I was like, okay, you're deep. Yeah. She's in the chamber music and like that classical stuff. So that's what kind of, I kind of like shape some of my things. Like, okay, let me do it. Let me try a minor, a minor, even if it's victory. Victory I wrote away, but I changed the keys to minor. Those of you to understand, you understand.

I changed the keys to the minor because I thought, you know, she liked. I like that and I love it. Aw. Those are minor notes. Yeah. But I did, she helps me in that regard. And she's my sound board. Like, I like that.

What she say it's cute or are they gonna love it? They're gonna love it. I'm like, ah. But you don't love it. I'm not finished, babe. I'll just give you the idea. It could be fully mastered. She helps you with that and the kids the same way.

Yeah. All of my music, like my next album, they're hearing it now. Yeah. while I'm recording and just their response reaction and sometimes suggestions it goes all in the pot so we all want to be creative crew I love that yeah they are part of everything

clothes everything my wife when you wearing that put that on that put that on that put the thing on that oh thank you she's very creative she keeps me glazed to keep all that stuff you know what I love I went to the podcast sets babe do the sets you look good in the sets I bet I could you know what I mean so she's still my advisor in that regard still very much involved in

all my decision making and administratively help keep the shift on man i love that she's so pleasant when i got to meet her um that weekend as well yeah super dope yeah man she the best i love that you are really really big on mental health and anti-bullying what was the spark that made you say this is what i want to get behind because i think for most of the black community it wasn't until 2020 that we really started getting by i was glad that it became a movement and then i was like where was this when I was right I was the skinny black

butt tube kid all my life like I my class love substitute teachers I hated them but it's their first time seeing me

you know what I mean things like that all the time and then kids and all that stuff once I found out it was a thing and campaigning

and anti-bullying I said I'm getting on that I understand what it does to the psyche having a good home I still had a good home

I had both parents in the home after it was good but leaving that house the anxiety I felt the fear the embarrassment regardless the rehearsing how to hold my mouth you know what I mean just to not be teased

you know I'm like it was crazy I still got big tea but I don't care now you know what I'm saying but you know what I mean just all of that I understood and understand how that affects the mind I went to my gifts they laughed at me until I played basketball or the keys and they was like oh I was like mm-hmm but you didn't do this. Yeah.

My, yeah. I love that. But I don't want to have to exercise my gift as a get-back. Yeah. I want to enjoy doing what I do. So if I could help the kids navigate mentally or give them some tips on how to just navigate, you know, bullies and understand that the people that's talking about, man, they've got insecurities and they're so happy that yours has seen that they just go, uh,

you know, most people online who park on scandals got stuff going on their self. But thank God to somebody else. this time. That's the, oh, you said, okay, so that's a sit moment. That's a sit moment, ladies and gentlemen. I'll do it from the bottom of the cup like this. I can't stand that. And I think we can definitely understand because we're living our lives in the public eye. But even like when I hear people like discussing scandals and mishaps, I'm like, I know what it is like to have my name in something and people not know the truth and I can't speak about it and everybody got an opinion. I didn't even know my fist was bald.

Let me relax. That that life is. That house spirit came. Listen. You know? And we got to be mute. We got to, we got to rutter our tongue. We got to be wise in our, you know.

Because anything we say is like, yeah. Anything. So that's very, very, very, very, very frustrating. So in the area, in the arena of bullying, we got cyberbullying. We got cyberbullying now. I mean, people, you know, so just helping them navigate. Because I have a heart for kids. I know I start like everybody, but I really have a heart for kids.

And I cannot stand how they are overlooked, not educated, not emotionally attended to. Yes. And even now, like, how you said was cyberbullying, social media, it is so much. And that's the part of the reason why I'm scared to bring a child into this world now. Like, when we were kids, like, the worst thing you had to worry about was getting kidnapped. You know what I'm saying? Like, make sure if you see somebody pulling up, don't talk to strangers, run, you know what I'm saying?

Being by the streetlights. Don't be by yourself. Yeah. Now it's like so many influences. Right. It's really scary. How do you protect your children from all these things? Right.

And since they're using to, because I was talking about Sunday, like, hey, don't just let your kids, don't just send them in a corner with a tablet. Oh, my. You saw my dad that with my nephew, I was like, yeah, I got to make sure we know what he's on. Because these games, they be infiltrating them games and saying stuff to kids and you don't even know.

They're coming to us at the, church that they're coming up this is happening this is happening and this is happening and I'm like I think parents wants silence like long as they quiet so I could do silence is not good parenting like presence is not silence presence just oh please y'all just please the kids I just really so but their homework sometimes and school work is on these tablets that's what somebody from the church said to me I said well we got to find a way how do we do that now because what age of a child be on social media. Right.

And what... I don't feel like until like 18, like when you're going to college. Yeah, I feel like in high school, all it's going to do is you're too young to deal with all those pressures. Because the comparison and you're already dealing with so-and-so got the Jordans. I ain't got them. And she's got this stuff and she's dating this guy. And now, like, everything is even amplified on social media.

Like, I don't know. I feel like it should be like when you get in college. I agree. Because when you dealt with that, it was regional. It was like Kyle and Corey got to... the sneaks. Now it's like a million people. I'm exposed to too many people who have what I don't even have access to. And I can do it. I agree with that. Yeah. And I can see just not get to get too deep, but I can see how I lead some more crime because like you're

seeing, I want this, I want this. How can I get it? By any means necessary. Yeah. It's scary. And so many people start, that's what mental illnesses kick in because depression, all the things from that app. I was just in the car yesterday also. We were talking because when you were talking about aging yourself we were in a car um i was getting my makeup done earlier the house in my videographer we were like um where were you born and he said 2001 i said i said you probably look at us like we're looking at him like a what what is that 2001 i said why i was graduating high school in 2001 you understand 2001 so we started going back did you guys have like nintendo he said no we had like playstations we like to what about the ipod he said

We had this many, and then we got, like, the first iPod came out later. I was like, okay, but it was like going down a rabbit hole. And I was like, y'all remember these phones, like sidekicks and blackberries? He said, we had blackberries. And then I was like, I want it there's a phone like now that doesn't have social media on it. We literally just talking about it. It's the razor flip phone. They don't have it.

I'm going to get one of those. I'm buying 100 and give it to my youth department. And then there's like, it's nothing like hanging up on somebody with a flip phone. Boom, that feels good. Because you can't really do that. You can never feel something. I was like, and then my photographer, she was like, she said, yeah, I think everybody should have, like, a phone with no social media on it.

Like your business phone and then a phone with, yeah, and I was like, yeah. It's healthy for your mind, man. It's healthy for your mind. That's why I'm starting to read out my physical Bible more now. I literally just said I'm taking my Bible to church. Y'all. Because, look, you don't see people do that anymore, very few. I commanded live to bring Bible.

Like, y'all, just break it to church. And how the mind works, how the mind learns, pictures, you know what I mean? No weapon for me. It gets on the way that is because it's the second column. It's highlighted in yellow. It's something about that that will help us remember. Yeah, I tell J.B. all the time when she's, because she'll read my notes for me for the shows. And I'm like, no, I got to read it.

Like, I'm a visual person. I have to read. I have to highlight it. And then it comes right to me. When I read the Bible on technology and then alerts come up and notifications, it's over. Over. Prayer time is over. Thank you, God.

I hope we do it right. Stay with me. There's a good bibles, y'all. Yes. Yeah, I'm on that. Yes. Same. I literally just said that.

I was like, I'm going to start taking my Bible to church. Yeah, man. That's the move right there. Yeah. No, that's so dope. Yeah. As a man, a lot of times in our culture, the men are the strong towers of the family.

They're the ones holding everybody up. How do you feel when society pressures men to be the strong one and not give them the space to be vulnerable, which I feel like we're trying to do better about that, but how do you feel when you may not feel like you have a space to be vulnerable? Yeah. Again, I got married very, very young. I got married at 21, which means I was dating at 20, 19 and a half, 20.

So I very rarely feel unsafe. That's good. It's a blessing. Yes. Like when my father passed, my wife and my kids, just became what I needed and without training without, you know what I mean, I can bust out crying and be weird for two hours and I feel, I feel safe and I feel like I've given them that as well. And so it's a fair exchange. I really don't, I really don't, this is a blessing.

I really don't feel like I don't have a safe place as far as being a man in my, and I'm the only man in the house, you know what I mean? It's being all these women. So pray for me, anybody who got an accessory gifts, pray for Thai training. That is funny. Yeah. All known women in there. But for men who feel that, I think it's important to, I feel like if I, I feel that way about serving. If I'm the CEO of keep it positive, excuse me, if I'm the CEO of keep it positive and you come here and I'm like, oh, hold on, let me get, I serve you something. If I give you something if I'm, I'm still the CEO of keep it. It don't take from me. Right. To lower. myself oh god help me this what jesus did he was still the savior of the entire world and he

washed the disciples feet that he created yes he used the water he created to wash the feet he created and was still the creator come on while they looked at him like uh-uh don't do that that's the lowest job yeah it could be your perception but it's not the truth it don't take from me so men when it comes to being vulnerable you still the man yeah you're having a weak moment oh wow they don't take manhood from you to be vulnerable so if we can have the confidence to know that i'm still kings cry fairals have cried i mean kings have been confused presidents don't know what to do sometimes yeah it's it don't take away who you are yeah because you have to you know you have a moment so i say be bold be boldly weak in that season yeah be boldly vulnerable and you'll discover a love

from the people around you that you never knew existed or you'll discover the truth about those that are around you. They need you to be Superman. And if that's the, you know, and then you can govern yourselves accordingly from there. But you find real love when you become vulnerable, not when you're strong. Real love don't exist when you're strong. Real love shows up when you are weak, when you're weak. His strength is made perfect in our weakness. It's the same concept. So don't be afraid to be weak, man. Now I'm not saying live weak. Right. But don't be afraid to be weak when you need to be. It don't take away from who you are.

I love that. Thank you. I know somebody need to hear that. Amen. I need to hear that. Cool. Because, you know, women take on that, like, yeah.

Yeah, that's the thing, though, too. Like, you know what I'm saying? How do you feel about, I'm going to say, girl power? Yeah. You know what I mean? I love, I love, when I grew up, my grandmother was the pastor of my church. Wow. So the first voice of God or preaching or pastor I heard was my grandmother.

And then my dad took it over. So I'm women leadership. I don't have a problem with that. My mom was a minister and choir director. I don't have a problem with women in authority. I love all of that stuff. How do you feel women are being accepted in that space? You got your thing going on you.

You're the boss. How do you feel about boss lady-ism? Boss lady-ism. I feel like now it's being more accepted. But I do know there's even churches that still don't accept women preachers. And I was like, Brenda told me that. And I was like, what? Like in 2025, like still?

Still? Yeah. Still, that's weird. Great. That's weird. Mad weird. What about in the workplace? Is the competition worse because you compete with other women now and not just men?

Yeah, I think there's so much woman empowerment now. I think we are really building each other up and seeing, okay, how can I help you? I love it. What you got going on. I love it. Those are the women. I feel like you attract what you are. I've attracted those type of women, yeah.

And even if like you do get some jealous ones, I don't know because I'm too busy. He's winning. I got you. I finished it for you. I'm like too busy. Winning. She's too busy winning to be worried about it. You know?

So, yeah, I appreciate. I take it on. And I just love all the women that God has put around me. I love it. Yeah. Strong women in our own rights and our own ways. Yeah. We're in our own lanes.

You know, where we can say, you know, like, I don't know if I want to help you because you might want to up me or get ahead of me. Right. You know, but even if we are in the same industry, there's room for everybody. It is. Always say, I don't know how many hairs is on top of my. I don't know how much hair is up here.

But each hair is on top. We all can be on top. Come on. His face. Yeah, it's plenty of face. I love that. So we got it, so we're coming up. Whoa.

We outside. We outside, yo. I had to do it. I had to do it. Y'all know I was going to. I was like, we outside is crazy. There's so many meetings of we outside. Let me clarify.

What's your meaning of we outside, tight treatment? It's provocative on purpose, or it's interesting on purpose or it's eyebrow raising on purpose. I feel like a lot of people, again, feel like the church or godliness is activated in church, where the real church is outside. Forgiveness is not really activated in church, it's activated outside. Love. I mean, y'all can go down the whole. list of everything Godly or every, all of the godly

characteristics for the food of the spirit is activated outside of the church, really. So that's where life has lived. So I want to put the emphasis on that. Like the real church is not like outside. Not the party scene outside.

Right. We're going to party for Jesus. Yeah, I'm about the same. But it is a celebratory you know what I mean. Lead to it. And that's why I said it. Yes. We're outside. And don't have to be guilty. But I'm going to have to be shameful about what you're doing or don't have to be embarrassed. You can be like, yo, man, we are, we are the way up for Jesus Christ. And why not?

Why not? Nobody else rescued me from that mental place. Nobody else sat with me in that confused place. Nobody else snatched me out of that dark place. Who should get the most noise? Who should get the most energy? Who should get the most focused? Who should get your bodies?

You should get all of us, man. So we outside this fall, y'all. I meet myself, Kiera Shear, Mike Todd, Transformation Worship. Wow. I've got two new artists, one named Anthony Brown. He's a beast and a Bree Triller. She's like a rapper thing. I really love their ministry.

She's always like to bring new people. Has Brie been on something recently? Probably, especially in this area. Okay. Breed Triller. I feel like. She's been on something recently? Nothing.

He's in his own. Okay. I feel like that name, I'm trying to remember that name. Yeah, she's starting to. I saw her online, like, oh, my God changed her life from secular to gossip music. Wow. But a lot of times when people make that change, I just don't feel what I feel with her. Wow.

It's authentic. It's still excellent. It's still there. It's not watered down. Like, because he saved my life tonight. It's like, okay. You know what I mean? I like your other lyrics.

They're a little harder. Right, right, right. Nah, she got hard lyrics for Jesus. Oh, that's amazing. I like, I like that. The Harlem in me. Right, right. All you guys are hard.

What's that? So we outside this fall. I'm so, so excited about that. Now, just like an arena tour, churches. Theater. Theater. Theater. When I did the reunion tour, I loved it.

I loved the big thing. I like a little more smaller, intimate, thing like that. So the theaters give me that. I feel like we outside, I don't know, I don't know why this thought just came to me was like, yeah, outside or like going into places and doing concerts where you, wouldn't normally go, I don't know why I'm in mind I saw a nightclub. Like that. I don't know why. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Yes. We outside. The light and darkness. That's, that's, yeah. After parties, Kelvin. Yeah. And every famous nightclub will put Jesus on the sign in front. You have jails.

I don't know. I see places that you wouldn't normally see a concert. Yeah. How much do we owe you for this idea? Because I don't feel like. That was the Lord. Oh, amen. So God did that.

So God did that. That was Pastor Crystal. P.C. You heard it here first, y'all. Oh, my God. PC gave me a word. I'm going to go to the club. Right. I like that. He'll be like, that's after the club because Crystal Taurus. That's why I'm spiritual leaders.

Hey, we spread the gospel everywhere. Yeah. But I like that. I like that idea. It's something about the dichotomy of being in a place that you wouldn't normally hear worship music. And I'm not afraid of any of those places. I know you're not. of them. So I love that. Yeah. We're going to add that to the pop. Okay, perfect. So we're going to play a little game before we get out of here

called The Bible says We're not playing it. How are you going to say that? You don't know where all the scriptures are. Then now you're going to give me a twist. Well, because you know them. Who said I know him? That's what I heard. Okay, let's go. Now listen, I go and embarrass yourself. You don't know. We'll edit it down. Where your editor's

at? Right. All in here. All right. Let's do it. Now, I got you. All right. In the beginning, God finished it. Created, the heavens, and the earth.

Amen. I got that one. Amen. Now, from here on out. Oh, this is an easy one, too. Look, I know this one. Okay, good. But you go to a good church.

I do go to a good church. I'm going to lie. I said this one, but I said the wrong, like, scripture one day. See? So stop, yo. For God so love the world That he gave his only Begotten Son

That's it right That's it Oh this is good No this easy too Now I know if I know this you're going to know this one I promise Let he who is out sin Do what

Jesus said this to the people The net on the other side No no cast the first stone I was like This is that Rape and Simone Giff was like Wrong one Yes, yes But yes, absolutely

Oh God Go ahead, do it Alright, okay Bless are the peacemakers For they shall In hermit the earth? That's what I thought It said be called the sons of God

Oh, ask it again Because I was going to Yeah, edit, all right So the next one is Be Called the Sons of God Yes Oh, it's be called the Son of God I was going to say inherit.

That's why I was like showing it. Matthew 79. Matthew 7.9. Yeah, I know. I was going to say. They shall be called the son of me. Sorry, Lynn. I'm still your pet.

You still come to church Sunday. Okay. This is all we all know this one. All right. Give and it shall be given unto you. That's down. Uh-huh. Taking together.

And right on. Oh, there was a song that we used to sing that had these lyrics. God has not given us a spirit of fear. But of power and love and of a sound mind. All right. That's it. Lord Himars. All right.

Yes, he got that. Are y'all praying? The last one is easy. Bless the Lord, oh, my soul. And all that is within me, bless his holy name. Amen. I want here, see, I'm going to get church. I could have gotten some of these right.

You're like, I could have got this. Because of what good ones. You know what I'm doing this with you, I don't feel so bad because I do know more No, that's what I'm saying. You could do it. Pastor at your pace. That's really good. That is a word.

Pastor at your pace, but pastor. But pastor. Stop running from it. However you do it. Because I'm a runner. I'm a track star. Yeah, don't do it. I'll be like, uh-uh.

Slow down, flow, Joe. Get on back. Come on. Get into for this word. Yeah, you got too much to get people and too many eyes on you, too many people you can help, especially in this season.

For sure. Thank you. Do it. I'm going to do it. Thank you so much, Todd. This has been amazing. Yes. We are so excited about the We Outside Tour.

Let the people know where they can find you. We want to follow you so we can stay abreast on everything you have going on. Yes, it's simple. Tie tripping on everything. T-Y-E-T-R-I-B-B-E-T-T-T. At the bottom of the screen. Instagram, TikTok, Threads. It's all the same.

Come hang with your boy and get your tickets for the We Outside Tour. I promise y'all, it's going to be lit. Yeah, and new album. New album. So the album out now, that's like an in-between one for the people who rock with me. It's called Tie Tripit, Only on the Road. That's out now. That's for the real ones, day oners.

New album coming out. I think it's going to be called religious. I'm not sure. Religious. I did a sermon series a while ago. It's freedom from religious, bonded, spiritual abuse, culture, expectations, family demands. Just freedom. It's just you and God.

That's good. Because at the end of the day, I'm going too far. But new album, FreeLigris. Maybe religious, but I don't know. That'll be before the end of the year. Awesome. Not good things happening, y'all. Yes.

Can't wait to support you, and you are always welcome back. Thank you. I think we should have Ty on as like a guest host. Because we had a good banter. This is good. For the heat bomb. Yeah, I think we should do it. Y'all let us know.

I'm down. You down? Yeah, I'm part of the family. What they call? The kids? The sweeties. The sweeties. Okay, what am I going to be called then?

We'll figure that out. Yeah, we'll figure out the guys. I'll figure out the guys. There you go. Yeah, that's your job. Yeah, forgot the guy's name. Because y'all like, he's like, I don't be no sweetie. That's cool.

God, thank you. Thank you, Chris. I appreciate you. This is amazing. Always. Call me anytime, PC. I'm here for you. Yay.

E. P.D. Well, Saints, we have come to the point of the service where it is time to pass the collection plate. Todd Tribut really just came and gave us a word. The Bible says where two or more are gathered in my name, I am in the midst. of them and he truly was in the midst of us today. I hope that your spirits were filled by this conversation and I hope that you'll share with someone who needs to hear it. Until next time, keep it positive, sweeties.