Keep it Positive, Sweetie - Living ALOUD with Lucky Daye
Episode Date: October 18, 2026Two-time GRAMMY Award winner Lucky Daye joins Crystal Renee Hayslett for a conversation about freedom, emotional growth, creativity, and what comes after you’ve already proven that your gift wor...ks. With more than 2 billion global streams and a new album, ALOUD!, Lucky is entering one of his most expressive chapters yet. In this episode, he opens up about what living without permission means to him, how he knows when to trust his vision, and how vulnerability continues to shape the way he writes about love. He and Crystal also talk about staying focused when comparison is everywhere, resetting when things don’t go as planned, and what still feels exciting after the accolades. This is a conversation about freedom, self-awareness, vulnerability, and growth.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Lucky, how are you doing today?
I'm blessed.
Thank you for asking you.
Yes, your energy, like you're so calm and you smell good.
Thank you.
I wish y'all could feel what we're feeling in this room today.
Thank you, thank you.
Thank you so much.
I know you're busy.
You got an album coming out.
Yeah, I'm busy with blessing.
Yes, I love it.
I love it.
So before we get into, we like to break the ice with a game.
Okay.
Your new album is called Aloud.
So I'm going to give you some prompts, and I want you to say out loud the first thing that comes to your mind.
Okay.
All right.
You ready?
You're sure.
Yes.
So we just talked about this fashion.
So I want to know a fashion trend that you hope never comes back is.
Oh, first thing to come in my mind, right?
Y'all got to be right out wrong.
Skinny jeans.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I know they're trying to come back with them.
I don't know they time to come back, but come on, man.
They hurt.
It hurt.
That's so funny.
All right.
The second one is something about you that people tend to underestimate is.
My resilience.
That's good.
The last one.
Finish this sentence.
Right now, I feel most free when...
When I smell good and when I'm on stage.
Yes, I love that.
Thank you for playing.
That was easy, right?
Yeah, that was way too easy.
Way too easy.
Let's go.
I love it.
So before we get into the album, I always like to take it back.
Like when did you first fall in love with music?
When did you know that you had this gift?
Like your voice is Chef's Kiss.
Thank you.
First of all, that means a lot to me.
Validation always works, you know.
But when you have a gift, I guess it's hard to know when you know it's a gift.
Right.
You kind of got to rely on people telling you that, oh, you got something.
Yeah.
Yeah, how old were you when somebody said, wait a man, you got something?
I was in high school.
Really?
Yeah, I was in high school.
That's amazing.
And everybody was trying to make me sing at this, on this talent thingy.
Yeah, I remember that.
And I told my pops, I was like, hey, man, I'm singing.
I can sing.
They told me I can sing.
I love that if you really can.
Yeah.
What was it like hitting the stage?
When you hit the stage for the first time on that talent show stage,
did it give you something that you hadn't felt before?
No, I've always been nervous.
Really?
I've always been like real shy.
So people had to make me sing in school.
I would not walk around singing.
I didn't tell people I could sing.
I only sang because I needed the lunch money.
And they paid me 50 cents to sing their name.
Really?
So I would sing all the girls' names.
And they'd be like, sing my name.
Sing my name.
You're like, wait a minute.
This is my own kid here.
I can eat some extra fries with this because my mama did not put my daddy on in child before.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
So I was like, all right, we can get this money.
You have to do what you had to do.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Everybody ate.
Resourceful.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
For sure.
That's when I knew it was a gift.
Yes.
It started giving me back to me.
That's good, Lucky.
I like that.
I love that.
Okay, so let's talk about your album.
You're saying that this album is really rooted in freedom and living without permission.
Yeah.
What was there a moment where you hit you, like, wait a minute.
I feel like, because I know sometimes even with the part of the industry I'm in,
which is the acting and even podcasting, sometimes you can feel like you're being put in a box.
Yeah, you can feel a restrict.
Yes.
Was there a moment where you felt like that in the industry?
Yeah.
I've always, like as I grow and I move throughout my career, I understand it unravel.
But I've always been kind of like stand backish or walking on eggshells because it's like when you walk in somebody, how it's like, I don't know if I can sit on this couch.
Right.
Don't got to take the shoes off.
Yeah, it's like, dang, I don't know if I could say this in the song.
I don't know if I could put this out.
I don't know if they're going to accept me if I do that.
So it's always just been that, you know.
So the confidence is ever evolving, the knowing is ever evolving.
Yes.
And all I can do is try to tame it as it grows.
I love that.
So you're going into the studio for this album.
What did it feel like this time around when you're like, you know what?
I'm going to hit this and I'm just going to be myself.
I don't care what anybody has to say.
What did it feel like going in and creating this time?
Starting on this album, it felt empowering, very empowering,
because it was the first time God was telling me to just like take the reins, like drive.
And for me, that's scary because I never knew that I could do that.
I didn't know I could do that until, not this album either.
I found out I could do that when my brother called me and told me I was treating them like I was Joe Jackson when I was little.
You too?
Yeah, I was like, no, I didn't.
I was like, no, I didn't.
I ain't never did that.
He was like, get done again.
And they were like, yes, you did.
Used to make us.
And I don't know why we used to live.
listen to you like I'm like probably because I was serious I was passionate about it
but I didn't know I was doing that you just don't know it's part of you it's part of your
DNA and then when people find out you know you'll appreciate them for it absolutely
like seeing it because it's like okay my brother's wasn't crazy right I guess I am
kind of like a dog when it comes to it now I know I can do it myself right and I've been
doing it and I didn't know I was doing wow shout out to your brother for
yeah shout out to me bringing that to you
Yeah, bro.
Yeah, and I do think that anyone who is successful in a certain field has to have that resilience that you talked about.
And you have to, like, it has to be in your DNA.
When you see the stars, it's like, no, it's something about that person that nobody else can do.
Yeah.
And it's the same thing with you.
Thank you.
Yes.
And I appreciate that, too, because you've got to cherish all the girls.
You got to cherish anybody with a gift, everybody, because we're all different.
We're all different.
And when we're gone, we're gone.
And when we stop, we stop.
Yeah, church while we're giving it.
That's how we move.
That's real.
I want to know, because you are so talented,
and with that comes discipline,
what is a day in the life what Lucky looked like,
especially when you're in album mode.
Oh, man.
A day in life with me is very kind of like,
far, left, far right, very dynamic, very dynamic.
Like, I wake up, do hair, do a facial routine, get dressed.
You know, do all the manicure, all the manned stuff, all the self-care stuff.
Do a shoot.
Come back.
Get right into my overalls, put down some floors and paint some walls.
Really?
And then get back into it, go knock out the sign check.
Come back home.
Paint another wall.
I'll go back to the show.
Come back.
It's like a finish.
It's like non-stop.
And I do random stuff.
Do things like that keep you grounded?
Yeah.
Like putting the floors down.
My father's a contractor.
My too.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
We got one coming.
We do.
Yeah.
We do.
Come on.
Shout out the pop contract.
It's main teaching us how to build.
How to use our hands.
How to use our hands.
Listen, when everything goes to shits, we're going to be all right.
Where the men were using their hands at, man.
Don't make that face.
Keep it positive.
I'm going to keep it positive.
That's a great question.
I love that.
So when I talk about the implement.
that your sabbatical to Brazil had on this album.
Let's talk about that.
And what happened that made you say,
I need to disconnect?
And what made you say Brazil was the place?
It's crazy.
I'm not even sure how I chose Brazil.
But going out there for the first time,
it was just the most harmonious feeling I ever had.
And I was supposed to be there for two weeks and stayed for two months.
Learned Portuguese and got to know all the people,
went to the favelas,
rode around,
stayed on the beach a lot.
Like,
it's the most black people
ever seen on a beach in my life.
Couldn't see the sand.
That's how many.
Really?
But like, a mile and a half
all the way around.
I was like,
wow,
this is more black people than that.
Hey,
I thought Atlanta was black.
Right.
But, no,
it's crazy out there.
That's amazing.
So take us through that.
Like, what happened
where you was like,
I just need to,
I got to get away.
I mean, I can imagine
because I say that every day,
but.
Yeah.
No, I do say that every day.
And I got to get away
every day.
If it's not in my head, it's physical.
But when I have time, I got to go places like Brazil.
When I went there, it was just, I don't know, I felt weight lifted off my shoulders
and listening to the music and what they listen to, it gave me, it knocked on my motivation,
the door of my motivation.
And I was like, oh, wow, I see what they like.
I know they like my son.
Like, they knew me.
They knew me.
And I didn't know they knew me.
Isn't that cool?
And I was like, what do they know?
Like, who do they know?
Who do they know?
How can I make myself more familiar?
And that was my starting point.
Like, how can I make myself more familiar in a place that feels so spiritual?
Yeah, I love that.
So talk about the things that you felt like waking up in the morning in Brazil.
Like, what was that like?
And what was it like, what did you do to, like, fill your soul and to fill your cup?
I do a lot of meditating.
I was, like, real close to, like, the Christ.
So he was always looking at me.
So it kind of felt kind of crazy.
Right.
Waking up, like, I ain't no sending.
So I was like, the food, the food, amazing.
Of course, I wake up and I'm inspired by people that push.
Yes.
So when I see how much passion they have, that's really what drove me over there
because my passion is kind of misunderstood in most places.
Especially at home.
Joe Jackson, like they're thinking like, that's passion.
Yeah, that's passion.
But you thought I was being mean.
I might say something one way.
And, you know, and it's taking different.
It's like my passion said it wrong.
But out there, it's like, it's different.
Yeah.
I love that.
I travel a lot.
And I see the joy that people wake up with in other countries have far less opportunities
or resources or things that we have.
Like they grind themselves in different things.
Yes, yes.
I feel like we have grind ourselves in.
material things we've grown up because we're desperate we gotta win everybody everybody got to win
everybody everybody got to pay bills yeah they don't care about nothing they don't care about and
i think i do i find myself being more free when i travel and not thinking about a lot of things
that i feel are heavy here when i come back home yeah yeah why does it feel heavy when you come
home it's supposed to be light i know i think it's just you come back home it's like okay now
i got to get back to it the grind yeah that's what it is that is kind of what it is like okay
all my obligations are here.
Nothing to do out there.
Nothing out there.
Seriously.
That makes sense.
Yes.
What did getting away from your normal environment unlocking you that you didn't even know that you needed?
You said, what did get in a way unlocked in my normal environment?
No, yeah.
What did getting away from your normal environment unlocking you that you didn't even know you needed?
I think it just gave me a sense to get to know myself.
a lot of people don't spend time trying to get to know their self.
They just kind of move through life.
A lot of people don't know how they learn.
They don't learn how they learn.
Yeah.
They just learn.
Just being out there and being intrigued by things,
I got intrigued by getting to know me.
And I was like, dang, I don't know if I can move each one of my toes individually.
So I started doing it.
Wow.
And I'm like, I don't think people can move their toes individually.
Or even think about that.
Yeah, I don't think they care.
So I just noticed, like, I just care about different things.
Like, I want to, I only use my left hand this year, you know what I mean?
Like, I've been doing that a lot.
I eat with my left hand.
Really?
It's stupid.
Amidextrous, like, do you write with your left hand too?
I've been, yeah, I've been right with my left.
I play with that sometimes.
Yeah, so, yeah, a little bit of, I don't know, what is that call?
What am I?
I don't know.
What am I?
Balance.
Okay.
Yeah.
I like that.
Yeah.
I think it's balanced.
I like that.
I like that.
Yeah, for sure.
So I want to get into the album
I listen to the songs that are already out
You have Leon Thomas
Pusha Tee money long
Akeem Ali
I actually just had a live show
In August
And we did the
The TikTok dance
Yeah
I had the whole audience
Learning in like two takes
And we did it
That's so fire! We need that support
Yes he was so great
He's like man
So listening to the
The features that you have
Love Leon
good friend of mine and then seeing him blow up and then you got push it to you who is an icon and a legend been doing it for years
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collaborate with um yeah first of all all of those people are great yes um leon's a great friend of my
Everybody that I work with has to be like, we have to have like some type of personal connection.
Okay.
So that was one of the grounds I based it off of when it comes to their talent unmatchable.
I think they're also different that it complimented my voice and it complimented the sound of the album, especially what was going for, pushes.
Like when it comes to rapping hip hop, like when I say the word hip hop, pushes up there on the Mount Westmore.
Yeah.
Oh, my gosh.
So that was big for me.
I don't know.
Nobody that could say they got a pushy on an armbic song with trumpets.
Oh.
Or sax.
Whatever we played in there, you know what I'm saying?
We had some like New York, Smoky Dark Room type thing.
Yeah, it's cool.
I love that.
That's going to be a dope dichotomy.
I haven't heard that one.
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Mouth, what is it called?
Mouth Say.
Mouth Say.
Mouth say.
What is it about?
Can you give us like a little like breakdown of that song?
It's basically just about the songs come from like a mere perspective.
So it's like what men kind of think in silence, you know?
We think in silence and don't even know we're thinking it in silence sometimes.
But we'll tell us.
So, yeah, I think she liked me, even though she might not.
So the song is just like, I doubt what your mouth said.
Like, you're saying that, but I think, you know, the way you touch with me is different than what you're saying.
Okay.
I like that.
I like that.
I just identifying that.
Right.
I love that.
So I know times have changed in the industry.
So a lot of times you'll send somebody their track and they'll record it wherever they are in the world.
Did you get to get in the studio physically with any of these people?
Yes, actually.
I got blessed to be able to get in the studio with Leon.
I got blessed to be able to get in the studio with money.
Anarchy.
Wow.
So he came to the crib in L.A.
I love that.
And this was before, this was like literally before the dance.
Yes.
Before the dance, before, before he, you know.
Because I just, when you see it, you see it.
Yes.
And he just had that, like, bro, you're going to crack the cold.
I know you are.
Just don't stop.
Don't stop.
So, yeah, no, I got in the studio with, I try to get in the studio with everybody I can.
I didn't get in the studio with push.
He's been all over the world.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I didn't expect.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But it was blessed to just be able to hear our voices on the song together to compliment each other.
So good.
You know what I mean?
Like, like peace cobblane ice cream.
So I can imagine there's probably things that you just loved about each session.
So give me one thing because I don't want to even ask you who was your favorite person to work with.
But like if you could tell me like your favorite part of working with Leon, favorite part of working with money and I came like in the studio, what would you take away from those moments?
In general, just the idea of being able to collaborate with other artists.
It's rare because every artist, we are artists because we believe in something.
Yeah.
And we stand on it.
So to be able to have something in common with somebody that stands on something of their own,
it's rare, you know?
Yeah, for sure.
And to be able to have chemistry in the studio.
That's tough too.
I call getting in the studio and making music with people that you never met first dates
because that's what it's like.
I don't know you, you don't know me, but we got to somehow build chemistry to make a song.
Yes, yeah.
Today, in like three hours.
Literally.
Nice to meet you.
Right.
I love it.
So with Leon's song, I know he plays a lot of instruments.
Do you play instruments?
I know theory.
I play in private, but I'm too embarrassed.
And I'm still shy, too shy to play in public or dance in public or anything.
That is crazy.
I don't see that when you perform.
That's because I don't think when I'm performing.
You get to lose yourself.
I'm not glad.
Especially when I was in Atlanta, the Atlanta show.
I don't even remember it.
Outer body.
People was like, you did great.
I just remember crying.
I was waking up.
I kind of, I don't know.
They just woke up.
You woke up crying?
No, I woke up like to myself with tears.
in my eyes. I was like, I don't know what happened. Wow. I was crying though.
Mm-hmm. So you felt something happened? Yeah. Wow. That's amazing. I think a lot of
entertainers are introverts naturally and they're able to express themselves on whatever stage
they go on. Yeah, I guess the songs hit me a little hard. Yeah. So let's talk about the songs.
When you're writing, are you writing from things that you see because you went to Brazil and you're
watching people and you're hearing stories and you're hearing what people are going through.
or are you writing from personal experiences when you're writing?
I'm writing to perfect a craft.
Like, I look at it like basketball players, right?
I hate to drift off, but basketball and entertainment,
and just being great is similar.
Yes, absolutely.
There are some players that get drafted and they feel like they made it,
so they're in there, they're in the NBA.
And then some players that get drafted and they're like, okay, now I just started.
Yeah.
For me, that's how I am.
When the album came out, it wasn't about, oh, you made it.
It was more about, all right, now I can start.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, Bruce Lee didn't stop mastering his craft because he got a movie or beat somebody up or whatever.
Right.
Like, you do it to improve, you do it to sharpen, to get better, to see where it goes.
Like, who am I missing?
I want all the crumbs, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
No, that's real.
So that's kind of where the passion comes from.
I want every single person.
Even that one person is really hard to get,
y'all going to have to sit here and wait for me to get this person.
Wow.
You're like, you want every single person in the audience.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Have you ever looked out in the audience and was like,
you're not with me right now?
Yeah, I have done that.
Really?
I'm like, where are you right now?
Yeah, I'm like, oh, you're not clapping.
You're not singing.
I don't hear you, you, yeah, you, the green dress, sing.
Sing.
They're probably like me.
Yeah, sing. That's me. Kiss him. Kiss him.
So when you see that breakthrough happening there, they started enjoying themselves and get out of their shell.
Yeah, it makes me feel good.
I'm like, right, she's dancing. Not you're not dancing.
Not everybody needs to be dancing.
Everybody needs to move. I love that.
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Follow me for more and I'm excited to help you grow. I want to know like when work gets loud,
the expectations of other people and everybody needing something from Lucky,
what helps you notice when you need to pull back and take care of you?
Oh, that's tough.
That's a great question.
Most, I consider myself a leader.
Most leaders cry in private, and they also, you know, think about their self lives.
They think about the team first.
So that could get difficult.
But I think I consider myself thinking about myself when I'm just exhausted.
But I know how to get away.
I know how to get away and find my own space.
I could be in a crowded room and just.
be in my own space.
Right.
You know how to escape.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm not really
depending upon where I am
or the environment
or the people around me.
I'm kind of like very
I know who I am.
Yeah, very short.
I know I need to break.
I'm going to go to the bathroom.
I saw like need to live space.
Listen, I'm the same way
like I get overstimulated quick sometimes
and I'm like, I need a minute.
Just give me a little room.
Let me do 2 Corinthians 3.
13, my bad.
Second Corinthians 13.
I run that when I'm nervous.
Really?
Yeah, I speak at the tones of men and the angels have my chest.
I become a sounding bra.
I do the whole thing.
Every day.
Wow.
I love that.
Something that I've heard you say a few times in this conversation is I'll go and cry.
And a lot of men don't talk about just let the release of tears and how important that is.
When did you become vulnerable to even just allow yourself to feel and to allow the tears to come?
I think I was born in a way, in a vulnerable environment, I guess you would say.
My mom's, she raised like five boys, so she's a superhero.
Yes, absolutely.
I was the, there's always that one child, like the husband child.
That was me.
Yes.
Like, that was me.
I bathed her.
I paid the bills.
I did.
I had the extra job, going to the extra school.
I didn't have no time for myself, but blah.
But she was sick and I needed, somebody needed to do it.
So I took the reins of just like being that.
And a lot of that, you know, it just created a lot of who I am,
a lot of where my care comes from and how deep it runs,
which makes me very picky on how to give it.
Yeah, that's good.
But yeah, I don't even remember.
I definitely just drifted off thinking about my mama.
No, I miss her.
That's beautiful.
Oh.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I understand that.
And we were talking about just having the vulnerability to have a place to cry.
And you're saying it started from like you were born into a vulnerable state.
Yeah, definitely.
Yeah, it's easy.
I think most of the battle comes at learning how to tame the vulnerability.
I've always been like that, but it's an everlasting thing, especially as a man.
Absolutely.
As a man, it's not easy to be vulnerable.
you just want to get mad you know you just get mad because I'm sad like I'm getting mad because
I'm vulnerable yeah and it's just comfortable there you feel me as a man but being vulnerable is just
something that I kind of have to have to do like I have to do it to make songs I have to do it
to communicate I have to do it to relate to other people so for me it's more like an obligation
to be vulnerable so I'm trying to master that as well yeah I think that's beautiful because
I, with this whole mental health,
becoming more and more prominent in our community
and allowing our black men to be, to feel,
because like you said, it's just like man up.
You know what I'm saying?
Man up, like what you're crying for?
Yeah.
Like you're not allowed to feel.
And I think it also comes through in your music,
which is beautiful and how you're able to be vulnerable
and obligated, as you say.
That's where it falls out.
I can just do it.
Yeah.
Have you ever had a moment where you, like,
cried in the studio, like recording the songs?
I cried on songs.
Every time I cried on a song, I keep the take.
I know that's right.
Yeah, floods, I cried on, I cried on one song per album.
My mistake.
At some point, it just hits you.
Yeah, what song was it for this album?
For this album, it was the one where I came out of leave.
Wow.
Which is actually not even a sad song.
Really?
Yeah, it was just like, I was going through the time in my head.
It was a real situation.
And, you know, it hit me.
Yeah.
I was just crying.
I kept the tape.
Like, keep it.
I freest out the whole, the whole thing.
Wow.
Talented.
I love that.
It's like film, really, my head of my life.
I just take the words out.
Yeah.
That's beautiful.
I can't wait to hear that one because that's not released yet.
So I'm excited to hear that one as well.
So we talk about resilience.
We talk about like the focus that you have to have to be successful.
I want to know when you're fully locked in on something,
what does that look like for you?
you.
When I'm fully locked in on something, it could be anything.
Anything.
Food, family, love, all of that.
I won't eat.
I won't sleep.
I won't, like I said, I think about me last.
I'm not even hungry.
Like, I'm just, I want to get this right.
Right.
And I feel like a lot of creatives are like that.
Like, I can get locked and I'm doing something.
I'm like, oh, it's been 12 hours and I haven't eaten.
Yeah.
But it's feeding me.
I'm good.
Yeah.
I'm good.
Are you hungry?
I don't know.
They ask me that all the time, you hungry?
I never, I don't know.
I can't answer that question.
I'm not, but I can eat.
Okay.
I probably should.
Speaking of food, like, what is your favorite cuisine to eat?
Mmm, oof.
That's very, very tough.
Oh, wow.
Jambalaya, gumbo,
fuckish, yakim.
Yikim.
You cook?
What do you call it?
Yacamine.
Yacamine.
So one of my sweeties, that's the community that we've built,
she was making Yakimae the other day.
I'm here?
No, she's from New Orleans.
Oh.
She was making it for her grandkids.
And I was like, what's that?
Point me to the way.
Yeah, but Yalkemen crazy.
You only get that in New Orleans.
It's not at restaurants either.
Okay.
You gotta go to my grandma house.
Yeah, she was like, look it up.
I was like, what's that?
Yeah, facts.
New Orleans ramen type.
Okay.
Yeah, when I looked it up, it did have like noodles and different stuff in it.
Okay.
Yeah, it's good.
Y'all get creative with the food.
I will say when we go down for Essence Festival,
we go to, like, all the restaurants.
You did the right thing.
Oh, my God.
It's the best food.
Yeah, that's what it's for, having fun, you know what I mean,
like partying all night, no closing hours, eat good,
and meet people that's going to compliment you about everything
that you didn't know you look good about.
I know, that's right.
Yeah, that's what we do.
We do.
I want you to feel good.
Yes, y'all definitely do that.
You're in an industry where it can be easy to measure yourself against everyone else.
How do you stay connected in your own pace and define your own progression?
That's a great question because it's easy to get caught up.
It is.
And be like, oh, he did that, so I need to be doing that.
I'm guilty of it.
Yeah.
No, we've all done it because you feel lost at times and then you look outside yourself.
So that is a thing.
But when it comes to the industry, it's so much room and space for creativity.
So for everybody that has a gift and everybody that feels that passion inside,
it's so much space for everybody.
So me, I'm not necessarily comparing.
I'm more like, I want to see what else got put on the earth.
Like, it's like a painter that wants to see more colors.
Yeah.
Like, I want to appreciate the other colors, the in between.
Y'all want to see, I still on green and red?
Let's mix this up.
I'm a magenta.
What?
Y'all talking about.
Yes, I love that.
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It is. It's really hard, especially when we're in such an applied base and approval-based
industry. Like what everybody else doing, what's working now? Like, okay, what are they doing?
And you can never know. Like, you're never going to know what music comes out when your music
comes out. Yes. And it's based off of that. It is. It can be based off something simple like,
oh, who else is on my Spotify playlist released today? Do I have the best song on this playlist?
Right. Oof. You know what I mean? Yeah.
And I don't know who putting out songs today.
Mm-hmm.
But if I did my best, I should be okay if my gift shine.
Exactly.
And it is shining.
I love that.
Thank you.
Appreciate you.
You've got two Grammys, 13 nominations, billions would a B.
Billions of strings and you're still building.
I want to know what are you still reaching for and excited for in your future.
I got two Grammys, 17 nominations.
Come on.
Correct me.
Oh, no, it's okay.
It's okay.
You know, we be working.
We worked behind the scene and front of the scene.
No, they'd be calling me Joe Jackson too.
Why?
Because I'd be writing type shit.
Oh, dang.
I said, 17.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
I love it.
Bless to have.
Amen, yes.
So wait, the question was, two Grammys, nominations, you say, what else?
Billions of streams, and you're still building.
Yes.
I want to know, what are you still reaching for?
I think for me, it's more.
It's more about the mastery.
I don't want to leave nobody out.
I don't want to leave anyone hanging on a feeling.
I want to complete the thought, you know.
I want to have a beginning.
I want to have an ending.
I don't want to just stop all random, get enough money, quit.
Like, it's goals I want to reach.
I still want to make it to top 100 billboard.
You know what I mean? I have, but I haven't got where I want to be.
Got you on that chart.
And I think as long as I have a target, it had given me like a lot of motivation.
Absolutely.
And, you know, I've had the number one R&B.
I've had the number one albums.
I have the best fans in the world.
They got my back with whatever.
It's crazy.
That's a different type of feeling, first of all.
Let's talk about fans.
Fans are crazy.
My fans are literally my support system.
my my my my my my my my my my veins run through my body I feel like they represent the the veins of
my music yes and they allow it to just run through and they share it and they move it make sure it's
going but when it come to like when it come to this music thing man like it's nobody better in
fans man like nothing for those that's your core and at the end of the day I want to make them happy
I want to make them proud and I want to make I want to make my mama proud I want my grandma proud I want my
ancestors proud. I want to make my people proud.
Yeah. And I can't win all of them, but I'm going to win as much as I can.
There you go. I love that. Well, you're doing it. I want to affirm you and let you know that you are
doing it. Yes, I love that. As your career gets bigger and more opportunities come to you,
I want to know what do you do to make sure that you're protecting the way that you grow?
We talk about the things you're reaching for, but as I say, all opportunities aren't good
opportunities. How are you discerning that and how you're protecting yourself as like,
We're like, lucky, do this, and we got this,
and I know so much is coming at you.
Yeah, for me, protection is important.
Protection is very important.
Sorry.
Protection is one of the most important things you can have
because it creates this longevity for you.
And I think the thing that keeps me protected
is just care.
And I care about who's around me.
I care about the songs.
Like I got to the point where I was like,
I don't even want curse on this album.
because I'm like I care about the kids you know what I'm saying?
Yes.
Like maybe they won't promote my album on the algorithm if I curse.
Like I don't want to promote alcohol.
I don't want to do this because I because doing that may make me thinking like oh I should
be myself 100% do everything I want to do all the time.
That's also people watching that might not you know what I'm saying that might not do
that that need to get my message that belong to this.
So um a lot of it is just like learning yeah and growing like um
unraveling.
And it's ever-changing.
It is.
I love that.
Because I think a lot of times people forget that when we are put in these positions,
especially high-profile positions, there's a responsibility that comes with that.
And what you say can literally be life or death for somebody.
Yeah.
And especially with music and then even with acting, they see something.
They'll take it as, oh, this is what I'm supposed to do.
I relate to that.
They heard it and they believe it because they relate it to a little bit of it.
And they'll take it and think like, or it will be real to them.
Yeah.
To them, that literal example is what happened to their life.
So many people told me, man, oh, but it changed my life.
Oh, we got me back together with my girl.
Oh, saved my marriage.
Oh, but this, over that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a breakup song, though.
Yeah.
And you never know which part hit them.
Exactly.
Even though it's a breakup song to me.
Yeah.
To them, it was a get back together song.
Mm-hmm.
That's art.
That's art.
That's art.
I love that.
Lucky.
My goodness, I really enjoyed this conversation.
Come on.
I'm enjoying it too.
So good.
So before we get out of here, this season's word is purpose.
And you spent years building your career to the point you got the Grammys, the streams, the recognitions, and you have the proof that your gift is working.
I want to know now that you don't have to prove it, what do you believe the gift is actually for?
And I feel like we just kind of touched on that because you're being responsible with it.
Yeah, I mean, it's a huge responsibility, honestly.
And it gets bigger and bigger with every album
because every single thing you do
is under a microscope.
Yes.
And you say one wrong word can end your whole thing.
One wrong move could end your whole thing.
Yes.
One wrong move could in your life.
Yeah, let's talk about it, yeah.
But just keeping your mind, keep in my mind,
stay on like just the positive things in life,
the things that I know are for me.
You can feel it.
And just chasing that.
My mom used to be like, oh, you got a gift, you got a gift.
I used to hear her, but I didn't really let that settle in until like I saw my gift change someone.
Yeah.
Or like influence somebody's emotion or calm somebody down or get people back together.
Yeah.
And it would make you think like, if I didn't know that, what else don't I know my gift could do?
I need to tame this thing.
So it's more about mastering it like we were talking about talking about earlier.
you like mastering the gift
getting reaching the goal as long as I have a goal I can keep my drive going with the gift
the drive is I want that number one on billboard and I'm not going to stop until I get it you're
going to get it so um just and having a strong team when I do it yes because I don't want to do it
by myself come on and let's talk about how hard it is to try to do it by yourself and how important
the team is it's very tough yes I was going to do that by myself really and I find a nice family
to help me do it and I realize I wouldn't have been able to do it
that. Yeah. Not like that. Not like that.
To that magnitude. Yeah. You're only as strong as the people that you have around you.
Right. Right. Shout out to the team.
Shout out to the team, man. The whole team. I love that.
So before we close, we have what we call positive outcomes. We keep it positive here.
And we allow our listeners to write in and we give them advice. You down? Oh, yeah.
All right. I'm an advice man. I know. That's right. Let's do it. So this week, I am Musette.
right saying and she said what is the most powerful daily affirmation you use to reset your mind
when you need encouragement see I use a lot of them because I try to talk to God often yeah for instance
yesterday I don't know what happened to my ankle right I was doing something I was building this
shelves right I really do random stuff I love that I'm Paul Bunyan in real life like I'm building
shelves I'm cutting wood.
But my foot, like, I don't know,
like I had a little pain right there, and I
couldn't stand on my foot. So I was
like, all right, let me chill. I sat down
for like an hour and a half
play smash brothers, and then
I was like, I'm tired of this, I got to stand up.
I was like, I walk with God, I walk with God.
And I said it so hard.
And I stood up, and the pain was literally gone.
I thought it was going to come back. I thought it was going to come back.
And I was like, no,
it's not going to come back. It's not going to come back.
I walk with God.
That's right.
And it never came back.
Wow.
I love that.
I really do believe in stuff like that.
Like the power of the tongue.
It's real.
And you have to believe it.
If you don't.
One inkling of doubt, the pain probably would it came back.
I almost doubt it.
Oh, but you didn't.
I didn't.
And I'm walking fine.
Lucky.
I'm dead.
I still don't know what happened.
That's strong.
Yeah.
It was like a nerve.
Mm-hmm.
And sometimes because you probably focus on what you was doing, putting the shelf together.
I was standing up for about.
10 hours straight.
Oh yeah, that'll do it.
It's like, can we please sit down?
Yeah, I don't sit down.
I don't do that.
I love that is so good.
You're going to catch me doing this often.
Right.
Sitting down.
Right.
You go busy by it.
Next interview, we're standing up.
Okay.
So for me, Muzet, I would say one of my favorite daily affirmations is I have everything
I need and I lack nothing.
And that's because I feel like everyday God has given me what I need to get through
the day.
So yours is like self-soothing, self-calming.
I think I get more inspiration from minds being like,
do good with the goods you already have.
That's like one of my eyes.
That's good.
Do good with the goods you have.
And it's like a competition in my head, like how good can I do?
Yeah, right.
Let's not do a little bit.
Let's give them like a thousand.
Yes.
You know what I want to do the most.
I love that.
Lucky, thank you so much.
Thank you.
I have thoroughly enjoyed this conversation.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Your album, Aloud, comes out October 16.
October 16.
Two days for my birthday.
By the time you watch it, it's already out, so make sure you download it.
Yes.
Come on.
Anything else you want to let us know about that we can support you in?
If there's any, like, philanthropists out there, I really want to get involved.
It's kind of difficult for me to find out what to do left and right, but I know I can find it from my here.
Okay.
I'm in an A if y'all out here.
Okay.
Shoot.
We got the Christopher Ned Hazel Foundation.
We're always doing something.
Let's collaborate.
I love it.
Thank you so much.
That's, thank you. Thank you. It was a pleasure.
No, pleasure's all mine. Seriously.
Come on, we got compliments. We're gonna keep going.
We're going in. You're dressed very nice. I like the pinstract.
And I love your shirt.
Wow, come on.
And the abs. I did come with the abs.
You came with the abs. And y'all worked out today.
And the skin.
You all worked out today. The skin.
No. I have to give each other more compliments.
The hair is standing.
In New Orleans, we do that.
Yes.
Your rings match. You got the purple. You got the purple.
You got the purple. You're going with the brown.
You know, and my purple matches your purple ring.
You're going crazy. We got the memories. We got the
We really got the memo.
Nudes.
We're cute.
I'm just saying.
Oh, Lucky, you are amazing.
Come on, you too.
Thank you so much.
Thank you.
This is fun.
Lucky, thank you so much for being here and for sharing this chapter with us.
I hope today's conversation reminded you that growth isn't always about proving more.
Sometimes it's about knowing yourself better, moving at your own pace, and being intentional
about what you want to protect as life care.
It keeps expanding.
Be sure to check out his new album,
aloud out now, on all streaming platforms.
Sweeties, let's keep this conversation going.
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Until next time, keep you positive, sweetie.
Lisa, tell them about our new show.
We have a new podcast.
It's called Don't Lie to Me.
I'm Lexi Youanu.
We're two best friends, 22 years apart,
but so close at heart.
And I'm Lisa Di Giulio,
the old one,
which means we have wildly different references,
occasionally different opinions,
and at this point in my 50s, I've lived it all.
Now in my 30s, being the founder of new shoes,
good taste is my business.
Listen on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts.
I'm Lacey Mosley, author, actor, stand-up comedian, creator,
and host of Scam Goddess Podcast.
The True Crime Comedy Podcasts, all about robbery, fraud,
and those who practice it.
Each week I bring on an amazing guest.
Ooh, I scammed them.
I can talk to you for an hour.
You're a generational yapper like me.
That's why I had to make yapping a job.
And now you can catch full episodes of my show on YouTube.
Start listening to Scam Goddess on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Scam Goddess!
Is there an epidemic against literature?
More specifically, black literature.
I'm Jack Quist-Piece Thomas, and on this season of the Black Lit podcast, we're outside asking why.
They don't want a whole bunch of little elevators.
Maxis and Martin Luther King running around.
And when you look at a lot of different cultures,
they're like, we need to know where you came from.
And considering this is Black Reading Month,
the only real question is,
what are you reading next?
Listen to Black Lit from the Black Effect Podcast Network
on our iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcast.
You broke me.
You do not deserve happiness.
I'm Andrea Gunning.
On this season of betrayal,
Carl thought he was living a normal,
drama-free life.
until the messages started.
Someone's not going to make it out of this alive.
Every piece of evidence pointed to the wrong guy.
He was not going to stop unless we stopped him.
Listen to Betrayal Season 6 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
On recent episodes of The Questlove Show, I chat with Jojo about her music and Wallow 267 about his story, everything in between.
Don't invite me to karaoke.
I'm going to make it weird.
Someone's going to try to sing, leave get out or too little too late or baby, it's you.
Oh, no.
And I'm going to be like, okay, okay, cool.
Check out my conversation with Jojo, Wilo, 267, and more on the Questlove show.
Listen to the Questlove show on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.
Peace.
This is an IHeart podcast.
Guaranteed human.
