Keep it Positive, Sweetie - My Brother's Keeper with Emmanuel Hudson
Episode Date: April 30, 2024This week I have my friend, comedian and artist Emmanuel Hudson, on the couch. Not only is he funny, but he is serious about his faith walk and has one of the most relatable testimony's. It's not easy... navigating this thing called fame and we get into some of the weird encounters that we've had!
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Hello, and welcome to this episode of Keep It Positive, sweetie. I'm Chris Renee Hazlett
and today I have with me someone that I know has made you laugh. The one, the only, Emmanuel
Hudson.
Yes, sir. In the flesh.
Yes, you are here.
How are you doing?
How long have you been like?
Oh my gosh.
It's been some years.
It's been some years. I think I ran into you at the mall like not too long ago,
maybe like a year ago.
Really?
Remember you was with Nico and Kailin,
you was in the mall in the big truck at Phipps.
Oh yeah.
That's how I saw you.
Yup.
Yup.
Yup.
Oh, what are you up?
What about Phipps?
Wow.
That was like, that was, are you still with me?
Yeah, it had been last year maybe sometime.
It was no, it was actually last year sometime.
Yeah, time flies.
And we'd be busy.
So it all kind of like, when did I see Belize?
It's been a minute since we actually got to sit down
and chill.
Oh man, I'm so happy to have you here.
We started the show off with a quote or a song
and I'd be remiss if I didn't take it back to
where I remember the world really was like, these guys are funny.
And that was questions.
Oh yeah.
That man, you been, it was so funny.
I was in my room practicing.
I was like, where?
Oh my God.
Who?
Man.
You been where?
That's the-
Well who?
That's funny you say that because a lot of people
don't know that.
That's my least favorite video.
Why?
Of all the videos that I've ever done.
It's so relatable and real.
Yeah, I mean, it's simply because when I was writing it
after I did it and I played it back
on a little small camera that I had, a little laptop,
I would just kind of look at it and I'm just like,
man, this is whack, like, this is not funny.
And you didn't think that people would think it was funny?
Nah, but simply because,
I don't know, I just didn't, I wasn't feeling it,
but it had been maybe like two, two and a half,
some years since I dropped a video.
And then that's when I just, I just tweeted it.
I was just like, hey,
cause Nico actually,
Nico was on the way to come pick me up to go bowling.
And the bowling alley was like 12 minutes away
from my house at the time.
And when he told me he was on the way,
I was still watching.
I'm like, man, I ain't putting a knot in two, three years.
Whatever.
So I tweeted it like three times, went to get dressed.
Nico came and got me on the way to the bowling alley in the middle of the drive like my homeboy
Andre Columbus called me and was like yo your video going viral
I'm like which one you say I guess the one you just put up in the red hoodie or something
I said I got that put that up about like six or seven minutes ago, right?
He said yeah, it's so worth starting man. They got over 400,000 views already
I was like what?
When we get to the bowling alley like people were coming up to me was like hey
is this is this you? I'm like oh no it's over with. They put me in the game.
I'm in the game. Wow that's crazy how something that you were like oh this is
wack this is stupid and probably were reluctant to post it and then that
fast. That's usually how it is.
Like a lot of musicians and artists can understand,
music artists can understand,
like you could be working on an album
and the one song you really just put your all into,
blood, sweat and tears, this one gon' go.
And you put that out and it's like,
yeah, it's cool, but it's the one you just threw together
at 3 a.m. in the morning before the deadline.
That's the one that goes crazy.
Oh my gosh, every time.
Yeah, I think that's,
it had that same effect with questions.
I love that, I love that.
I remember the first time I met you in person,
it was, I was actually part of one of your,
oh, we gotta find the footage, the baseball field song.
Oh yeah, oh!
What's up?
I, look, listen, it's in the DMs.
In the DMs, that was a slide in the DMs.
In the DMs, it was a parody of,
it goes down in the DMs.
Yep.
No, no, no, no, no, it wasn't,
no, no, that was another one.
That was a parody for it in the DMs.
But it was like,
cause it was sliding in the end with the baseball.
This was the original in the DMs.
We was on the baseball field.
Yes.
Me, you, Kayla field. field. It was so many people and that's we got hits man. Y'all got hits. We got hits. No
for real. No I remember that we had to find the footage of that for sure and put it.
I was at home base about to hit the ball. Yeah oh I think you was in the scene you
might have been in the scene with DC. Yeah,
DC Young Fly was there. I think he was the umpire. Yes, that scene. Wow, we got hits. We got hits and we go way back.
I remember that was the first time I actually got to meet you and see the work and the energy you
guys put behind your content. Like that's my first time. I feel like that's when like content and
social media was really really starting to come together.
And we had never seen people do it
the way y'all were doing it.
YouTube was booming.
But like to see how you were literally shooting
like real videos behind,
yeah, y'all took it serious.
Yeah, man, we still doing it, man.
We still at it, man, yeah.
Into another level and I love that.
I do.
I appreciate that.
That's crazy. I didn't know that was the first time we met. Yeah, mm-hmm. That's what's up though. I do. I appreciate that. That's crazy.
I didn't know that was the first time we met.
Yeah.
That's what's up though.
Yeah, no, for sure.
I wanna take it back
because I always like to give our audience
an opportunity to get to know our guests
from childhood to where they are now
to kind of give them a sense of the journey.
Let's talk about Young Emanuel.
Like were you always funny or were you shy at some point?
How did you even get started in this?
Um, the young Emmanuel, I was always like a class clown, you know what I'm saying?
But at the same time, Mon, Dukes and Pops, they didn't play that bad grade type stuff,
you know what I'm saying?
So for the most part, yeah, I was pretty much,
I believe so, you know,
cause it's kind of hard to like explain
what your personality is at that age.
You're not thinking about that, you know,
that's usually other people's job to tell you like,
what they think about you.
But for what I've heard from close friends
and people that actually know me,
yeah, I was the class clown always making people laugh.
Just cool with everybody.
If we're in school, I'm cool with the cheerleaders,
the jocks, the lanes, the chess club.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
I'm cool with everybody.
I believe I was very outgoing,
especially in college before all this stuff got started.
Man, I remember the first time I went to Albany State and the football team
wanted to fight me. Yeah, because when it was my orientation day, they were up there
doing a dance that my brother had made years ago and it was called Crank That Oakie. And
they like, I'm like, I saw them do it on stage and I'm like, yo, that's my brother, like
that's that's my brother dance. I'm like, oh, no, no, like, I'm like, I saw them do it on stage and I'm like, yo, that's my brother. Like, that's my brother dance.
I'm like, oh, no, no.
Like, so I get up at orientation in front of everybody,
all the freshmen, I go on stage,
I'm like, yo, that's my brother dance.
And they was like, oh, what?
So we started dancing.
And that's kinda how I became known on that campus.
And they were like, I had introduced them to a new dance
that my brother created.
This is Phil or another brother? No, my older brother, O'Keefe Fudson. Okay, dope. Introducing it to a new dance that my brother created
My older brother, okay
And I introduced to introduce the
The campus to a new dance that the football team they were just hating at the time
But over time like one by one like one of the football players. They even put a hit on me
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I ain't gon' lie.
What?
Yeah, yeah, I'm telling you lie. What? Yeah, yeah.
I'm telling you man, my child, I mean my young Emmanuel was like, I got a story man.
This is just be funny but they weren't around campus where they was hating so hard that
they was like, yo, we gonna beat him up if he come to the club.
Wow.
And someone came to me and they was like, I was like, yo, y'all trying to go to the club?
I had no idea though.
Right.
And one of my friends at the time, he was like, yeah, I'all trying to go to, I had no idea though. And one of my friends at the time, he was like,
yeah, I don't think you want to go to the club tonight
cause he was on the football team.
And he was like, man, yeah, they got a list
of people that they gonna beat up and you on the list.
And I'm just like,
what I do?
I'm like, so y'all wanna go to the club?
Like we gonna go or not?
You know what I'm saying?
Oh, you still wanted to go?
Yeah, I was going, cause I don't,
I probably would have got my butt whooped
if I would have went,
but I just wasn't really thinking about that.
And then just later on as time progressed,
one by one, one of the football team,
one of the football players,
they would see me in different areas of the campus
or at the gas station.
And I remember being at the gas station,
Pampas and Nile Latos,
and I looked up and one of the football players,
he was just kind of looking at me.
And then he was just like,
hey man, you cool dog.
You know what I'm saying?
Like he dapped me up.
He was like, man, the dance funny too that you're doing.
And it's just one by one.
They just started showing love like over time.
And I'm like, I mean, you know,
but it was pretty, it was pretty dope, man.
That was after I had found out
that they were doing the dance in the locker room.
They were so busy joking on me and like roasting me. But they were actually doing it and it was like you know.
Yeah. Yeah what it is man. I love that. I love that. At any point like during that journey,
I guess that was a point of like some form of bullying. Being the funny guy, did you ever go
through that? No. In high school? Because you were always just the most high schooler. I'm a roaster. You know what I'm saying? Like it's hard to bully me. You come and say something
about me, you know, from the Southside of Clay County. We do one thing, a true roaster know
what it mean. Look you up and down, check, rate you real quick, but I'm on your back,
you know what I'm saying? Like I ain't none of that. Yeah, and then just growing up with with
Five older brothers, you know I'm saying well feel as the youngest but just going just going up in a house full of brothers
Man, we wouldn't we go I got look you put your hands on me. I got two more brothers in the next grade
Oh, we we owe you here
That's crazy. I don't think I've ever been
No, I've never been bullied. Not like that.
That's good.
When you talk to my team, we talked, they asked you about spirituality because we always
touch on people's faith walk.
And you said you were raised in a church and you were spiritual, but like not too super
religious.
Right, right.
What was that like?
I mean, at the time, again, being kids, my parents did the best they could, which is
like, you're still in the word of God in us.
But as kids, like, we were kind of just going to church and being in the church all the
time because they kind of like made us, you know what I'm saying?
Like most kids.
Yeah, like most kids, but because my mom and dad kept at it,
certain stuff stuck with us, you know what I'm saying?
But yeah, we was in church Sunday to Sunday, man.
Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday night,
Thursday, Friday, then on the holidays,
Halloween, hallelujah night,
one don't trick or treat.
No.
You can trick or treat with the Lord.
You know what I'm saying?
That's just how it went. But as we got older,
when I started experiencing certain things in life,
like just in my teens, being on my own a little bit more,
I was a little rebellious
because I didn't get to do a lot as a kid.
You know what I'm saying?
But not too rebellious.
But now that I know what I know now, I am kind of proud of my spirituality when I was
younger, even though I may not know what I was doing at the time.
I used to try to get my friends saved.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
I'm in middle school and my homeboy, his name was Kentair Strozer, and he lived across the
neighborhood from us and I used to always
go over there and jump on his trampoline.
And one day I went over there and was jumping on the trampoline and I got to talking to
him about Christ.
And I had like, I'm like, man, you want to be saved?
He was like, yeah, how?
Little old me just on the trampoline, we out there praying.
I'm like, man, all you gotta do is just ask him
to be your Lord and Savior, and that and that.
And my best friend, Mike Wells.
Shout out, Mike.
Oh yeah, he right now, you know what I'm saying?
Ended up introducing him too, you know what I'm saying?
Trying to get him saved.
Got him saved, he got saved.
And then I think my senior year of Fayette County,
at Fayette County, I took a group of my friends
and we all went to church.
And I think I got all, I got a few of them saved,
except for one.
One of them told me, he was like,
man, I ain't ready yet, I just wanna make sure I'm perfect.
You don't wanna make sure I'm perfect
before I get my life together.
I'm like, don't work like that.
It do not work like that.
You ain't never gonna be perfect.
It's just your job to plant the seed.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, I love that.
I love that.
I noticed on your Instagram,
you've been like posting about certain scriptures
and asking questions about faith.
And what brought that about?
Cause I hadn't really seen that on your social media
until recently.
What just brought about the post or the-
Yeah, the post.
Cause I noticed you were asking questions
and you'd post like scriptures or things that-
Oh yeah, yeah.
Oh yeah.
Honestly, not too,
I just basically rededicated my life back to Christ
not too long ago.
Cause even though I was raised spiritually
and in the church, you know, as you get older
with this lifestyle, you know,
and being introduced into the industry or whatever,
you can kind of like, you know,
derail a little bit or whatever.
And then one day, it's pretty crazy.
My older brother O'Keefe, he had posted a scripture,
Genesis 316,
and then the question that he asked was
something around like,
why is it bad to desire only for your husband?
Like, why is that a punishment?
And then that struck my interest.
I'm like, what you mean?
Like, I thought desiring for your husband is a good thing.
You know what I'm saying?
And when I went and looked it up,
it says that that was part of Eve's curse.
And I'm like, well, how,
I thought you supposed to desire only once your husband,
so how is that a curse?
It turns out that the word desire translates to control.
So part of her curse, even though it was for Eve's curse,
it affected, you know, the man got affected too
because once they, you know, bit of the forbidden,
you know, fruit or whatever,
he gave us punishments together
and then he gave punishment separately.
And one of Eve's punishment was pain during childbirth
and the other one was you were desired
to only for your husband which translates to control.
So that in return, it says from now until the end of time,
men and women will try to rest control in a relationship.
They will continue to be bigger,
but women you will never succeed.
Your husband will rule over you.
So when I read that a lot, like my mind kind of got blown.
And I'm like, darling, I've been since,
since I've started dating women, you know what I'm saying?
I'd be wondering, no offense to the women out there,
but y'all, y'all could be a little crazy.
And when I read that scripture, I'm like,
my mom was just like, wait a minute, like, wow.
You mean to tell me that's why we have all this?
Oh, the woman's supposed to do this.
The man is supposed to do this.
No, I'm independent.
It's like, God knew what he was doing.
And that's one hell of a curse.
Like that's, you know what I'm saying?
So after that, it just made me realize
you gotta get in the world for yourself.
We have been talking about that.
Like literally the last time we had her,
Miss Lawrence talking about you have to know it for yourself.
And at church PD, we did a whole series
on God did not say that.
Because we've been taught by different pastors growing up,
this is what it is, and that's how you use the Word.
But a lot of people can't perverse the Word.
And if you don't know it yourself,
you can easily fall victim to false doctrines and stuff like that.
Yeah, that's so real.
So yeah, he got me into that and ever since then I slowly started like, I would go to him like, hey man, what you think this is?
And he was like, oh yeah, that means this, you know, da da da da da.
So he's kind of like my, one of my advisors when I read and I study, I go to him because he's been doing it going on like six six seven years now, you know studying
So shout out to my big brother O'Keefe for that. Yeah ever since then
You know I'm saying I would post certain things to kind of like
Provoke people to go read for themselves. I'm not gonna sit here and give you the answer because that's the problem. Now if you listen to me then like you just like okay you whatever but
if you read for yourself and get a better understanding then honestly that
can lead to the world being a better place like no cliche. Yeah no that's real
that's real I love that and a lot of times the way you read it and receive it
is different based on what you're going through. I may read it and take it a totally different way.
And it's really how God speaks to you through the scripture.
Right. So you started off doing videos.
What was like, I'm going to start making videos because you're doing it.
I'm sure you've been clowning home.
You've been doing it at school.
But what's what made you say I'm going to do this for the people?
I never actually said that really you just got in your computer your computer and was like, I want to do this.
Again, my two older brothers, Matthew Hudson and O'Keefe Hudson,
they actually started doing music videos first, sitting in front of the camera doing songs.
And they just decided to hit me and Phil up and was just like,
hey yo, y'all want to have like a brotherly competition type thing?
Like we make songs and send it to the third.
I'm like, well yeah, feel, let's do it.
So when we put our songs together,
we was going back and forth
and we are putting it just like on Facebook.
It started on Facebook.
And that kind of just grew.
So people were like, when we went to school,
me and Phil went to school, people were like,
yo, that video y'all did was kind of,
we was kind of getting on a little, you know, locally.
And it just, somebody was like, they suggested that we put them on YouTube
But we really know anything too much about it, right?
But I end up putting them on YouTube and it was cool
You know I'm saying we for basketball games will go to different basketball games and the students would know who we were and stuff
Yeah, and then that's when I went off to college
Which is which explains why I didn't drop a video in like two to three years.
Got it.
Okay.
After I got kicked out of college, the second time I came home, and that's when I did Ask
an Island questions, and that's when they like.
Crazy.
I love that.
And then from then, when did Nick Cannon recognize you and say, hey, I want you to be on my show?
Or did you try out for that?
How did that come about?
He reached out first and then
He wanted me to audition. He had called me. He was like, yo man been watching your videos for a minute, man I'm a fan. I think I want you know, I want you to come on Wild N Out audition and it's funny he'll tell it
He said
When he called me and said yeah, man, I want you to audition for Wild N Out. I was like
Yeah, man, but I got this mixtape that I want you to hear.
I really do music.
What's up with the music, man?
Da da da.
And he was like,
I'm trying to put you on.
And you talking about,
I'm like, man, yeah, that's cool.
But I got a mixtape.
Cause I really love doing music.
That was my first love.
Comedy just happened to take off and start paying the bill. I kind of put that side of me you know back here but
I'm back to doing music and stuff like that actually me and Phil just dropped
two singles called Act and Coots but when he called he was kind of he was kind of
like yeah but I ended up auditioning and getting it. That is crazy now you had the
competitions between the brothers
and you and Phil really took off,
but the brothers one is starting to happen.
Do they feel as salty about this?
Nah, nah, I don't know.
Do y'all think you're right?
Nah, nah, nah, to be honest with you, no.
They just, they were just super proud.
You know what I'm saying?
And then I rag on them a lot about it.
I'm like, man, yeah, y'all know who the Real Brothers is.
Matt O'Keefe, y'all know what's up, man.
I'll never try for you again.
You know what's going on.
But it's all good.
It's definitely all love.
I love it.
Okay.
So you're doing Wild N Out.
You're still on Wild N Out.
How has that been?
Cause that was, how many years?
I don't know.
Once they start shooting twice a year,
I kind of lost track of the season.
Cause it was easier to, every year they shoot once. So you'd be like, oh, boom, boom, boom. But
it just got in such high demand that they start shooting twice a year. I'm losing. So I don't know.
I know I've probably been on there probably since possibly 2013, maybe 2015, one of those.
That is amazing. It's still going, that is a long running show.
Yeah, I know.
Like I thought I was watching while in that one.
I was, when did it?
You probably was, man.
Yeah, I was.
You probably was.
Yeah, it's been a long time.
Yeah, you probably was.
Yeah.
We got a new season that's,
I don't know what they're doing with it,
but it's supposed to be dropping soon.
Okay.
Yeah.
That's dope.
So you're on social media a lot.
One thing I've noticed that even more,
ever since social media has come about,
people feel like they have the right
to have an opinion on everything you do.
How do you deal with that?
Because I know sometimes, we didn't ask for,
we just wanna be creative.
We wanna do what we love to do.
We found a passion and that's what we love to do,
but people always have something to say.
Have you dealt with it?
And then at any point where you kind of like
reading comments and second guessings like,
or wanting to say something back?
Of course, man.
All the time.
I'm definitely, definitely better at it now.
You know what I'm saying?
Again, now that I've been understanding
how Christ will react to certain things,
I found myself within that journey
of just like trying to let Christ live through me.
I would find myself bata and then I hold him like, oh I can't do this. I get the urge sometimes
to roast back a little bit, but as far as the seriousness of getting angry because out of the
ignorance of people, yeah that was a struggle for me.
But at a very, very early start in my career before,
even before a while and now, I remember being on,
it kind of taught me something about the game.
So I never was,
I never was too like hung up on trying to be super famous
and get so super big to the point where it's like,
I'm just all over the place,
simply because I, at a very early start of my career,
I saw what comes with it.
And that was one day we was on,
one day I was on Twitter
and this was right around maybe a couple months
after Asking Non-Questions had dropped and my Twitter
was like the Twitter and I've never experienced anything like this. I was
watching back when Twitter had like worldwide trending. I was just like
man let me see if I can make a trend go worldwide. And then the first, I think one of the first ones I did was
hashtag baby daddy mixtape titles.
And it went worldwide trending like quick.
And then I'm like, oh, snap, like, okay.
And then I tried it and I was like, let me do four more.
I'm just gonna see.
And I like did baby mama mixtape titles.
I did a bunch more and all of them were trending worldwide at the same time.
So to me, I was looking at that like, wow,
like I got Twitter in the palm of my hand,
like not on some like non-humble stuff,
but this is Twitter.
And the fact that this many people are watching my page
in order for things to be trending worldwide,
that's kind of crazy.
So with that kind of power, what ended up happening was
one day I just randomly tweeted, I tweeted something
and I said something different at the time,
but it was saying studs are just nice guys that girls don't,
something about girls don't give, like they don't give nice guys a chance they like
studs are just nice guys that girl won't give a chance, you know, I'm saying something like that and
Someone else that was a part of that of that community. She was like, hey, why don't you
Believe or support the LGBT community. Like what is that about? And I had gave her a scripture of why, you know what I'm
saying?
This is what I believe in, you know what I'm saying?
Ain't got no problem, but this is just what I believe in.
And someone, she wasn't offended at all,
but someone else had took a different tweet
and then another tweet and they kind of mesh them together
to make it seem like I said this
when that it was all out of context.
But once that hit, I literally watched my account drop
over 200,000 followers.
Wow.
In a matter of days, it was just, it just kept going down.
And as once I saw that,
once I immediately saw it just like this, I sat there.
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And I was like, I was around like 600 going on,
almost 700,000 followers and it was just climbing.
But once I said that and someone tweeted it out,
I watched it just drop 200 some thousand.
And I'm just sitting here like, hmm.
I said, good thing I was raised spiritually
because if my opinion does this much damage
and this is because of something that I stand on,
even though they took this out of context,
let me not get too attached to this industry because it's that easy stand on, even though they took this out of context, let me not get too attached to this industry
because it's that easy to lose all the fame
and this, that, and the third.
And my management at the time, they were kind of upset.
They were just like, man, you know,
just bad for business and do this, do that.
And I'm just looking at them like,
hey man, y'all better get used to me.
I ain't gotta get used to y'all.
It is what it is, you know what I'm saying?
Now, the older I got, I do understand
like the politics of it all in the sense of,
you don't have to say everything that comes to your mind.
There is a way you can play it.
Not looking for no balance when it comes to, you know,
my spiritual beliefs, but some things ain't always
gotta be said to the point where you losing that many followers
because one of the main reasons why God put me
in this position is to reach as many people as I can.
So I ain't afraid to claim Christ at all.
And if I feel like I'm going, that's what I wanna do,
that's what I'ma do.
But you can be smarter about things.
You know what I'm saying?
So it was a learning lesson for you.
Yeah.
No, I'm sure I feel that.
And a lot of times we do,
like I've even been guilty that I'll say things.
I'm like, cause I'm comfortable in the moment
and I'm just being authentic.
I'm like, maybe I could have said that different.
Maybe I shouldn't have said that, you know.
Yeah, but I feel like sometimes
the reason why that's kind of tricky
is simply because some people get it, some people don't.
So who am I supposed to,
which one am I supposed to cater to?
Like am I supposed to cater to, get a tutor?
You know what I'm saying?
I said what I had to say, this group of people got it.
So it is what it is.
But overall, I don't really,
I just stick to my content now. but people got it so it is what it is. But overall, I don't really,
I just stick to my content now.
I try not to have too many opinions about politics
or let my personal stuff, personal life
get involved with social media.
Yeah, that's good.
That's smart too, it really is.
Becoming famous, like you walk to Bollinelli
and people are like, is this you? And then now everywhere now everywhere you go I know like you probably got used to it now
but in the beginning was that a big adjustment for you to for everybody you're
the guy from whatever it still is really it still is because it's for me going
from being the outgoing person,
you know what I'm saying, the class clown,
the one that's cool with everybody,
will try to make everybody feel good
and things like going to now where I go a lot of places,
people recognize me and they got eyes on me.
And they, you know, it's just sometimes it can get kind of
like, you know what I'm saying?
You want to stay in the crib, you don't really wanna go out.
And it's not because you trying to be Hollywood,
but people are crazy.
And I've had some crazy things happen to me
to the point where, oh, this is not normal.
I appreciate the love and support,
but like it's certain times when you out
or when you're doing certain things, that's not okay.
And it's more of a security thing
than I don't want nobody talking to me.
Right, yeah, absolutely.
Not know exactly what you mean.
And for me, the same thing,
it's still like getting used to people,
Fatima, Fatima, getting used to that.
And it's like, sometimes like you may hear someone like,
is that Fatima?
And I just, like you can hear them like whispering in the back of your ear.
It's crazy, you turn a corner and somebody literally,
I was in Home Goods one day and I turned a corner
and it was like, and it was like a scared look.
So I'm looking back like, and she's like,
I just couldn't believe that it was you.
And I was like, it is me.
And he's looking at me like myself.
It's tricky because like, especially when you,
when you, you try to understand how,
how to treat people how Christ would.
Yes.
It's like, some people can be rude.
Some people can be.
I have not had anybody rude, thank God.
You have not had, would like recognize you
and walking up on you while you're trying to eat.
Oh, rude like that.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Nah, man, when you try to react.
Me and bike.
You know what I'm saying?
Oh my God.
And that's what I'm saying.
It's kind of tough because it's like, I don't mean no harm.
I don't want you to take this moment that you met me for the first time and then go
over here and do all this stuff.
But it's like, it's like a, I'm not gonna say it's a balance, it's just tricky.
Cause again, I've had things happen
that I just can't believe in this like, man,
should I go out?
Like, do I wanna go out?
Cause people are crazy.
Wanted to, I had a fan walk up to me,
Manfield was at Clark, Clark University, Clark Atlanta.
And she, we was doing a meet and greet and she walked up,
we me and Phil was sitting down and she walked up to me
and she said, oh my God, Emmanuel Hudson, I love you.
And then she slaps me.
What?
Straight slapped me and I don't know why.
I don't know why she just slapped me and I was like,
I looked at Phil, Phil.
Like a real slap.
Yeah, like a real slap.
And Phil looked, he looked at me and he looked at her.
I'm like.
What was that?
It's like, I just,
and I, surprisingly, I didn't do anything.
I was just kinda staring at him.
I was so shocked.
I'm like, man, you love me?
I don't think I wanna be loved that much. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I don't wanna be loved like that. But that was probably of staring, I was so shocked. I'm like, man, you love me. I don't think I want to be loved that much.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, I don't want to be loved like that.
That was probably the craziest,
but I seen, I was watching one of your episodes
and I think it was a clip and you had talked about
how people mess with you in church.
Yes, yeah.
It was so funny,
because when I had went to church one time,
I tried to get up early to leave. When he get ready to do the benediction, I listened to the benediction on the way out.
But as I was walking up the aisle, one of them someone was like, hey, can I get your autograph?
I'm like, I'm like, yeah, she started digging in her purse.
No, she didn't.
She gave me a pen.
She found some little flyer or something to write on.
So as I was writing my autograph,
the woman in front of her in the seat,
in front of her reached in her purse,
then reached back like this and dug the paper in my hand
as I'm trying to write someone else.
She just like, I'm next, I'm next.
And I'm just like, man, what are y'all doing, bro?
You need to be getting this benediction.
I'm trying to get out of here to dodge y'all.
It'd be crazy, but at the same time,
I do look at it now like,
this may be a chance to minister to somebody
or it just may be a chance, you know,
hey man, I appreciate the love and support,
but sometimes, yeah, reality, yeah,
it gets a bit overwhelming.
It does, yeah, that's real. At any point, yeah, reality, yeah, it gets a bit overwhelming. It does, yeah, that's real.
At any point, did you like,
have you ever had anxiety over it or anything like that?
Cause I know for me, just the life and like,
the like the overwhelmingly of life sometimes in success
can cause, has caused me anxiety.
Have you ever battled with it?
Now, forgive me if I sound stupid on this,
but I don't think I really understand exactly
what anxiety is or what it feels like.
What's the, what is that?
Oh my God, that's not stupid.
That's not stupid because it was until like 2000,
what was last year, 23,
that I witnessed it for the first time.
Cause I was like, same way I'm like,
what I mean, like you just deal with it.
Like just life goes on.
Like, what are you talking about? Anxiety.
I did not understand it until I had my first anxiety attack.
And it literally felt like I was having a heart attack.
My vision was literally going like,
like you, if I was looking at you,
your face has been going like this.
My heart is like racing.
What is an exact?
It's based like your body reacting to like all the stress
that you're putting it under.
And it's like, even from your thoughts
to like your rigorous schedule, doubts that you have,
any type of things that are happening.
And eventually your body's like,
yo, I can't take this anymore.
So it's a reaction to all these things.
And I literally was looking up like symptoms
of a heart attack.
Cause I'm like, am I having a heart attack?
Cause I was, I had told my driver to stop somewhere.
I get, I'm in Best Buy and I literally had to lean on a ladder.
The ladder they get on to restock.
I had to lean on it cause I couldn't stand.
I was like, what is happening?
So I get my bandages, I go back to the car.
He's like, did you get what you need?
I was like, no, I can't even see.
I was like, just take me to the hotel.
My head was killing, my heart was just pounding.
Lay down for hours.
Literally, my heart just did not stop pounding.
And that's when I realized,
once I did the research and I called my therapist,
you know, that's an anxiety attack.
Oh no, I'm straight on that type of thing.
I'm straight.
No, I ain't never had no anxiety attack.
I thought it was something around, you getting nervous before a show or something
like, well, what if these jokes don't hit?
And yeah, if that's a part of it, then yeah, sometimes, but...
But I feel like a little bit of nervousness is healthy.
No, no.
You haven't never had it.
I ain't never had to lean on old Beth by ladder. Sure is.
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That's crazy. Well I'm glad you're all right. Yeah I'm good. I'm good. Are you used to it though? I
know you this is but are you? No that's a good question. I'm getting used to it you know there's
still times where I feel uncomfortable um and I'm I want to it. There's still times where I feel uncomfortable
and I'm, I wanted, if I'm just with my friends,
I just wanna be with my friends
because also you have to think about how it makes them feel.
This is like the one moment they may get to spend with you.
Like your actual friends get to spend with you
and then somebody's constantly coming up,
interrupting that moment.
So then they're like, you know what I'm saying?
Like, can we ever just have our friend to ourselves?
And it's like, so you deal with that.
But then at the same time, you want to honor the people that
you say that love you and that support you.
So it's a it's definitely a catch 22 when it comes to that.
But, you know, oh, no, no, I haven't gotten used to it.
I don't. And honestly, I don't think I don't think I ever will
because it's every day.
It's a new kind of approach
or it's a new person.
So like I said, I've had people that,
hey, they see me, hey man, keep doing your thing,
but I'm the ones I kinda like.
I'm like, I'm here for the world.
But then you have people that,
they come to you while you're trying to eat.
I was at the airport, sitting down trying to eat a pizza
and this woman and her
husband they pull up she got the phone already she's like oh my god and she sit down with me in the
middle of me trying to take a bite and you hear her husband say hey man come on man a man trying
to eat he ain't trying to deal with that right now I don't care where he trying to I'm gonna get
this picture. I'm just like I can't even, if you even say anything like,
hey, no, they take that some kind of way.
And then they can go back to a bunch of people
that they know.
And those people are gonna take their word for whatever,
whatever she says, how you were.
Oh, you met him? How is he?
Oh, he's rude.
And now they think you rude and don't even know you.
So it's, it can can get it can get deep. Yeah
since you um
Rededicated your life to christ. Have you had any type of?
um
Uncomfortableness or like
Because for me I battle with like my career and my walk
Have you ever had any of those like battles internal bells like is God pleased with what I'm doing on my career side? Of course, of course, but that honestly,
that's what makes me understand even more that he's real. Because when I started,
when I started reading the Bible for myself and taking it serious, at the time,
When I started reading the Bible for myself and taking it serious, at the time, I was smoking.
I was, and I never really used to smoke weed like that.
But I ended up starting smoking
until it got to a point where I was smoking every day
because I had liked the feeling that it was giving me.
I just liked how it just calmed me down.
I seen a difference in who I was.
Like the normal Emanuel,
I used to be like antsy, irritated quick, like uh-uh.
But I noticed that when I started smoking weed,
it kind of just like mellowed me out.
I'm chilling.
Like the video games are much fun now.
I'm a madden player, I'm a Madden guy actually.
And one day I was playing a friend,
but I was high and it was the very first time
I really like noticed something.
But as I was playing, I picked a play
that had me do like a zone defense.
And when he did something in my head,
I guess because it was just, I was just so chill.
I almost left my zone and the football players and me and y'all understand.
Yeah, I was talking about right.
Yeah, I almost left my zone and something just told me
like, brother, leave your zone, that's what he's supposed to be.
I was high, right?
So I'm like, I ain't gonna leave my zone,
that's what he's supposed to be.
And I picked it off.
Like he threw an interception, I was like,
Wait a minute.
I was like, how long, so that's how you supposed
to play the game?
I'm like, all right, boo boo.
So Call of Duty was much more fun.
Like it makes you feel like you really,
let me stop.
Weed is, it's not that great.
It's not that great.
I don't wanna make y'all understand.
You're making weed sound amazing.
But I got addicted to it.
Wow.
In a sense of, I just wanted to smoke.
So I wake up, roll,
got to the point where I was buying weed.
And this was right
around the time I started getting into my Bible as well. Friends saw a difference in me. They
were just like, man, he like, he healed. Like, you like, I'm waking up in the morning throwing
outfits together. Like, man, let me just put this on. The drip was just, it was just coming naturally.
You know what I'm saying? So when I started reading my Bible,
but I would roll up and I would go outside,
I would read and I would smoke.
And the Holy Spirit would say, he would nudge
because I'm new to, I'm really new to the faith now
in the sense of I rededicated my life back.
So now I'm seeing things for myself.
So the Holy Spirit was like,
hey, you ain't gonna see what I got to say about that. And ignored him. Because you know, now I'm making
music and my music is allowing me to be creative. So I'm like, nah, man, they can't like boom,
boom, I'm doing good, you know. So over time, he just kept nudging at me. And I asked my
older brother, O'Keefe, I was like, hey, man, what you think about smoking weed? He's like,
okay, well, technically the Bible doesn't say
it's a sin, but God does says,
all things are permissible to me,
but not all things are wise.
So he was like, I'm pretty sure if you look in the Bible,
there are things that,
cause a lot of people when they read,
they try to look for it strictly saying, this is a sin.
You know what I'm saying?
You can't do that.
God don't, he don't even play with sin.
So it's things that you will read and you be like,
now you know, you know this is a sin for one,
you smoke it illegally anyway.
You gotta abide by the laws of the land anyway,
it's not legal, you know what I'm saying?
So it was just certain things that I was reading.
I'm like, man, I'm looking at the symptoms
of continuing to smoke weed and long story short none of it was good. Right. So I'm
like this ain't of you. You would never make your child feel like this so even
though it doesn't simply say it's smoking is it's in there's things about
weed that you ain't going for. So over time, after I kept ignoring it, one day I was just like,
all right, man, let me see what the Bible got to say about it. That's when I called my brother.
He told me. So I started reading certain things. I'm like, well, you know, I can't argue with the
man upstairs. So I started throwing everything away. So I threw in cones, papers, all that stuff away.
And, but I had so much weed at the time,
I didn't want to dump it in a trans can
or flush it or anything like that.
So I was like, you know what?
My Uber's almost here, I'm finna go out of town.
Let me put this up, I'll throw it away
when I get back in town.
So I go out of town for a couple days
and I find myself asking other believers
what they think about weed.
Only because though God knew what I was doing.
I was only asking them to hope
that they can tell me something different
so I can feel better about smoking weed.
You know what I'm saying?
And when I got home from out of town,
I was playing a game,
cause I had vowed to quit.
So I was playing a game, maddened again,
and I'm back to my old self, not even realizing it.
Then I'm jumping up and I'm like, man, see if I was high, this is gonna again, and I'm back to my old self not even realizing it.
Then I'm jumping up and I'm like, man, see if I was high, I'm going to be doing all this.
And I was like, man, you know what?
I'm about to smoke because it had been like a week and a half since I had smoked.
I said, man, I'm going to roll up and it is what it is.
So I started rolling up and I was getting ready to walk outside and God said, no, I
told God, I was like, look,
technically the Bible ain't say it's a sin,
I ain't read where it's at.
Now I know what you said, but I'm just not ready to stop.
And when you ready for me to stop, you will let me know.
But I just can't give it up right now.
So I go outside.
I love these conversations with God.
Yeah, so I go outside and I hit the blunt
probably like four times and I was working on,
I was working on a song dedicated to him.
So I'm like, I say, see Lord,
the weed got me, you know what I'm saying?
I'm feeling up, you know what?
And I put the blunt down and I kid you not,
I may have took four hits
and I got this little nauseous feeling right up here.
And I said to myself, I was like,
I'm like, nah, you know what?
Yeah, Lord, I hear you. I said, I'm gonna give it up because this little feeling that I'm feeling
right now, that's not of you. You would never make your child feel whatever it is. This is not a good
feeling. So yeah, I'm gonna quit. So I try to get up to grab my phone to continue writing.
And I got, I get super dizzy. And I sit back down like this and I'm like, hold on, this
started pounding the right side of my forehead, started pounding. And I'm just this and I'm like, hold on, this started pounding, the right side of my forehead started pounding.
And I'm just like, I'm like, man,
my vision just started getting really dizzy.
And I'm like, man, oh, I'm about to throw up.
And I've never thrown up from smoking weed.
But I'm like, nah, this is about to be a bad one.
So when I try to get up, I just hear,
nah, sit down real quick,
because you think I'm playing with you. You already said you was gonna give it up, but you hear, nah, sit down real quick, cause you think I'm playing with you.
You already said you just gonna give it up,
but you over here asking other people what they think,
nah, sit down real quick.
So I sit down.
What do you think about this?
I did that.
Yeah, I sit down and then I'm like,
man, maybe I'm just tripping, maybe it was in my head.
I try to get up again, sit down again, I can't move.
He says sit down.
So now I'm like this, I'm twitching. And I'm like, bro, I can't move. Like says sit down. So now I'm like this, I'm twitching.
And I'm like, bro, I can't move.
Like, I don't know what's going on.
And I'm like, well, maybe this is God telling me,
you know, to focus on him and, you know, I get through it.
So I couldn't take it.
So I stood up, threw up everything I ate.
From that morning, I was just throwing up.
It was just, and as I'm throwing up, I'm looking at it and I just hear,
you got your answer.
You got your answer.
You got your answer now.
Now get in there and throw it away.
And it was around three o'clock in the morning.
And he was like, I don't care how you did all that
throwing up, I don't care how tight it is.
You gonna get out there, you gonna clean it up too.
So I went in the house, I just started throwing stuff away.
I'm like, I hear you, I hear you. And I'm waddling back outside to go clean it up too. So I went in the house. I just thought there was something I hear you don't I hear you and I'm waddling back outside to go clean it up and it's just
like go to the bathroom. I had to go to the bathroom. I was sitting on the toilet for like 45 minutes.
I'm like Lord man. He was getting everything up out of you. I'm like what we doing man? So after I was done it was funny
because I was sitting on the toilet like this and I looked up, I was like, bro, you got it.
I ain't did no way, you got it, man.
But the funny thing is everything was going.
The high was going, the clarity was there.
And usually when you smoke like that,
like the high lingers, but it was gone.
And I just looked up at them and I'm like,
I bet I give it up.
And I ain't smoke sex.
You know what I'm saying?
And sometimes the devil try to play tricks like,
cause I ended up realizing something that happened.
And this is how the devil and your mind
can play tricks on you.
What happened was when I was throwing that stuff away
before I went out of town, I mixed weeds
because there was a jar for the hyper
and there's one for the sleepy.
I was planning on throwing it all away.
So when I just did like this, after a couple of days,
after like a week or some change,
when I was playing the game,
I was searching for the one that would get me hyper,
but I'm like, let me just pull something.
So it must have whatever, if that's a thing, I don't know.
But I still don't charge it to that
because there's no coincidence that I'm walking out
and I'm saying, when you ready for me to start smoking,
you'll let me know and then that happens.
You know what I'm saying?
So I ain't gonna lie, like sometimes I used to miss it
a little bit more, but now that I've been, you know,
strengthened in my walk with them, I barely even think about it or miss it a little bit more, but now that I've been, you know, strengthened in my walk with them,
I barely even think about it or miss it.
But at first, sometimes I'd be like, man, I miss it, man.
I just be wanting to chill.
It ain't like I'm doing, I'm at home chilling,
but it's just not a wise thing to do
when you're trying to lead people to Christ.
You know what I'm saying?
So.
Amen, y'all.
That's good.
I love it.
And I feel like so many Christians in their walk
can identify with it.
And it may not be smoking weed.
It may be other things that we struggle with.
They're like, all right, Lord,
when you ready for me to give this up?
And he will make it very clear.
And I hope it doesn't have to be as clear as yours.
Cause that was a little painful.
I don't suggest anybody, cause he will do it.
I don't suggest anybody
don't allow God to make an example out of you.
Cause a lot of people will give God the credit
when he does something good for them.
Like, oh, he gonna keep his word.
Yeah, he gonna keep his word when he say,
this gonna happen if you keep doing this too.
So, you know what I'm saying?
So that is that time in my life,
I got made an example out of,
but everything works together?
So that that my mishap became my test became my testimony
Yeah, I love it. So you inspired other friends to start smoking or has anybody else like me?
I mean I see a difference you in you since you stopped. I'm gonna stop too. Are they like, that was your man that you got in,
tell me that.
To be honest with you, yeah, nah.
Again, it's all about planting the seed.
Like, cause at first I started smoking
and then I went, after I stopped,
I would be excited to tell other people like,
and oh God, it's real that you should stop doing this
then the third, but that's not my place.
Now I'm not gonna sit here and say,
I can't, I'm not gonna sit here and tell people
smoking is a sin, smoking is a sin.
It may be, I know it is for me.
You know what I'm saying?
And I know God don't change his mind.
So if he feel that way about me smoking weed,
pretty sure it's the same, you know what I'm saying,
for everybody, but it's not my job to be like, you start smoking sin because he allowed me
to smoke so I can get to a point where you ain't gonna be smoking. You know what I'm
saying? And his timing is perfect with everything, because like I said, I've never thrown up
before. I did that day. I only got one lung now. Threw that up too.
I'm joking.
It's been an eye opening journey as well.
Amazing.
Amazing.
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This should be fun.
I don't know.
I'm going to be real.
I don't know if I'm being positive, but I can be real.
Right?
It will be real positive.
Okay, I'm going to try.
I'm going to try.
No, keep it real for real because I mean, a lot of times these people write in, they're
really seeking advice. So we're going to help you out. Her name is Trish. No, I keep it real for real because I mean, a lot of times these people writing, they're really seeking advice.
So we're going to help you out.
Her name is Trish.
Hi, Crystal.
My name is Trish.
I'm an aspiring actress from Mississippi.
I got my first speaking role from Tyler Perry on Ruthless one day as a background actor.
I went to school for law and I'm actually a licensed attorney.
But in between waiting for my bar results, I worked background on the show Women
of the Movement. From there, I went from background to a stand-in to a PA. We have similarities in our
path. I really just fell in love with being on set, so I started taking acting classes. The craft is
something special, and I'm obsessed. I love my journey, but sometimes it can weigh on me as I am
new and there aren't many people that can direct my life who know or get what I'm pursuing in acting. Any advice on how to grow
your network and find like-minded people in your field? My friends and family try to be supportive,
but they don't understand how to be interested in law and want to be an actress.
Well, Trish, funny enough, I always wanted to be an entertainer. Actress and a singer
was something that I always wanted to do since I was a kid. And my family didn't understand
it either. I come from a small town. So if you're from Mississippi, I'm sure you can
relate to that. But sometimes life takes you down different paths. You may have wanted
to be a lawyer at one point. I've wanted to be many things, you know,
but it just depends on the season that you're in.
If right now this is what you want to do,
at least you have your license to be an attorney.
You have something to fall back on
because we both can attest that entertainment
is not a foolproof or a regular salary job.
So at least you have something to fall back on.
But if this is something you really want to go after,
you should really go after it and try to see
if you have people in your community
that want to be actors too,
or if there's any type of community theaters
that you can join,
that you can be around people who are pursuing
what you're pursuing.
What about you, Vigno?
What do you think?
Well, honestly, I felt like she kinda asked a SAT question,
like the passage, so I kinda got lost there.
What is exactly is she asking?
Is she asking for advice?
Yeah, on how to grow her network
and find like-minded people in her field.
I would honestly say social media is booming right now
with being independent, you know what I'm saying?
The best way I know how to grow a network
and anything is just put yourself out there
in the sense of if you really wanna be an actress,
you really wanna be an entertainer, do something,
even if it's writing your own script,
maybe like a 33 minutes sketch, act it out.
Put it up on your YouTube, start a YouTube,
you know what I'm saying?
And be consistent with dropping content
that involves what you really wanna do.
You shouldn't have to wait on nobody
because you can go to auditions,
you can go to all these, you can go to all these
things and just trying to get yourself out there but like you said that's it's a it's a it's a
give or take because it is about networking but one thing people can't argue with when it comes to
networking is results so if you're putting Trish first of all shout out to Mississippi
yo gang gang basically in Mississippi right here um but yeah if you if you're putting Trish, first of all, shout out to Mississippi, yo, gang gang,
basically in Mississippi right here.
But yeah, if you put yourself out there
and you continuously just drop content
for people to see regardless,
people will start coming to you, you know what I'm saying?
And try, just keep auditioning, try out for stuff,
don't stop.
Yeah, for sure, yeah, definitely don't stop.
All right, that's amazing.
So we do this thing called what I'm going through
and what I'm growing through.
Yeah.
I asked her.
Yes, ma'am.
I didn't know her came up with that.
I think that was, yeah, that was her idea.
That's you?
Yeah, that's her.
Okay.
Look, Ghost Rider. Oh, God. That's you? Yeah, that's her. Okay. Little ghost rider.
Ghost rider.
So she, so for me in this season,
I am going through,
I'm going through a lot.
One, just being comfortable in the space that I'm in.
I am 41 years old.
What? 41, yeah, just am 41 years old. What?
41, yeah, just turned 41 in October.
Wow. Yeah.
He said, what?
How'd I look?
What was you thinking?
Fine.
You fine years old?
I don't know what I was thinking.
Stupid.
But in my big age, I do find myself
just trying to be patient, you know what I'm saying, with finding love and what God has for me, even career wise, where he's taking me and being open and being patient. So right now that's what I'm going through and growing through.
That's what's up. What I'm going through and growing through is
just trying to figure out how to implement my purpose.
Cause I was reading a word one day and it says,
you know, you have to, if you don't know
what your purpose is, ask the Holy Spirit to reveal that to you.
Because at the end of the day,
regardless of what anybody wants to do,
if it ain't God's will, it can happen,
but it ain't gonna last.
So what I've been going through,
it's just realizing, hey, you got talent,
but that don't mean nothing
if it's not going towards your purpose.
So stop focusing on your talent and focus on your purpose.
And when I realized that,
that's when I asked the Holy Spirit,
I'm like, all right, look, I noticed I done got all this,
this fame and all this stuff come to me,
but am I doing what you want me to do?
And if I'm not, I need to put this on hold
and get started immediately with what you want me to do.
And luckily, by the grace of God,
I believe that it is, I believe he revealed to me
that my gift was through entertainment.
And my purpose is to spread the good news
through my content, whether that's music, sketches,
all of that.
So that's what I'm going through.
And that's what I'm growing through.
I love that.
I love that.
So to close it out, we do, keep it blank, sweetie.
And for this one one after talking to
you I'm going to say keep it hmm humorous sweetie keep because I feel like
laughter is good for the soul don't be so serious about everything because you
make me laugh so let's do keeping humorous, sweetie.
Keep it simple, sweetie. I love it.
You know what I'm saying?
That's, keep it simple.
And I think the reason why I'm saying that,
because again, like, God is simple.
Yeah.
And if you-
We try to complicate it, but it's really not.
Yeah, if you knew, if you knew,
if you understood what he's asking you to do
You're gonna be so mad at yourself when you realize on judgment day. You mean tell me this are you wanting me to do?
It was that simple
You read my word
It was that simple
Go to hell
Keep it simple. Keep it simple sweetie. I love it. I love it. Thank
you Emanuel. Thank you. I really appreciate you. Out of all the pie I care about this
is probably one of my favorites. I love it. I love it. I love it. Guys, thank you so much
for tuning in to this episode of Keep It Positive, sweetie. If you want to write into our positive
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Shout out to Philip Hudson, man.
Thank y'all.
Thank you again.
Yes, absolutely.
All right, guys, make sure you tap in with Emmanuel.
And in the meantime, in between time,
you know what to do.
Keep your posers.
Love y'all. Music