Keep it Positive, Sweetie - Selling The Vision w/ Arian Simone

Episode Date: March 23, 2025

This week on Keep It Positive, Sweetie, I’m joined by the powerhouse herself — multi-hyphenate entrepreneur and co-founder of The Fearless Fund, Arian Simone. We dive into a candid, no-holds-barre...d conversation about Selling the Vision, her relentless fight for women entrepreneurs of color, and the landmark federal court case that thrust her into the national spotlight — igniting a much-needed conversation around the future of DEI in America. From sitting at the feet of legends like Coretta Scott King and Rosa Parks as a young girl, to being crowned a real-life Ivorian Queen, Arian’s journey is nothing short of extraordinary. Her story is bold, brilliant, and deeply inspiring. Grab your pen and paper — class is in session. You’re about to be educated, empowered, and reminded of the power of purpose.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Calling all my sweeties to the forefront. I'm your host, Chris Renee Hazlett, and this is the Keep It Positive Sweetie Show. Hello and welcome to this episode of the Keep It Positive Sweetie Show. I'm your host, Chris Renee Hazlett, and today we have a powerhouse joining us. She's an entrepreneur, investor, author,
Starting point is 00:00:20 and co-founder of the Fearless Fund. KISS family, let's give a warm welcome to Arian Simone. Arian, thank you so much for coming by, literally coming by, because you're right there. Yes. Oh my goodness. I didn't know you were so close. Yes, I'm home.
Starting point is 00:00:35 Yes, I know, and you have to come by more often. Yes, I'd love to, but thank you for having me. Absolutely. I'm honored to be here. I've been wanting to talk to you. I've been so fascinated with everything you had going on. So to get the opportunity. Yes, girl, you.
Starting point is 00:00:48 So to get this opportunity, I'm just super grateful. So thank you so much. Oh, thank you. Yes, absolutely. So there's been so many things that people know about you from your story to what you've done lately with the Fearless One. Very dynamic woman, but I wanna get to the root
Starting point is 00:01:06 of who you are from the beginning. You've been very open about going from homelessness to being an entrepreneur. Tell me about that journey. Whew, she even took me back. Okay, Crystal. We're gonna take it back and then we're gonna come. Yes.
Starting point is 00:01:20 It was truly a moment where, how should I put it, I was just more so out of alignment with my assignment and what I'm supposed to do on the earth. I was a college student at Florida A&M University and I owned a store while I was there in the mall. And I made a promise to myself while I had the store that one day I was gonna be the business investor I had been looking for.
Starting point is 00:01:49 The promise of course looks like the Fearless Fund today, but the journey there of course took a lot of adventure. And there was a time when I gave up on the store. Some days you'd have $50,000, some days your account is negative. And I'm like, am I good at this or what is happening here? And I stopped. And I keep that on my computer, the financials from the store, because the business was actually
Starting point is 00:02:14 profitable. I look back now and laugh because I wasn't failing, I just wasn't patient. And I just needed patience. What were you selling? Clothes, women's apparel. Why? Oh. And I just needed patience. What were you selling? Clothes, women's apparel. Amazing. Yes. In college.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Yes. That's huge. Yes. I was working at a clothing store. I didn't own one. Yes. Wow. It was a lot.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Being a collegepreneur, it was definitely a lot. And me giving up on that, I moved to Los Angeles actually with a job. The only job I've had in my adult life, because everything else I've done, I've worked for myself. And it was Nellie's Apple Bottoms, and I worked for 30 days. Yes, those Apple Bottoms jeans, boots with the fur. Yes.
Starting point is 00:02:57 What? Wow. And I worked for that company for 30 days doing product placement, placed product on Jessica Simpson and Tyra Banks. And I even found Oprah and put the jeans on her and she had them on the show. So when the president said, hey Ari, I'd like to meet with you, I'm thinking like of course. I've turned the company around, you want to meet with me? And she said, unfortunately we have to let you go and I was like
Starting point is 00:03:19 let me go. She said if it was based on performance you'd be the first to stay. I said what is this based on? I was 23 at the time. Yeah. She said, if it was based on performance, you'd be the first to stay. I said, what is this based on? She said, I was 23 at the time. She said, well, the company's being sold. Everybody has to go. They're having a new team come in. You just happen to be the last hired. You're the first fired. So yes.
Starting point is 00:03:38 And at that time, my parents were in an unfortunate divorce case, call back. And I never knew I would never be able to not call back home I grew up middle class. So I was like What do you mean? They were like, hey finances are not good here right now. And I said, you know, don't worry about me I'll figure out life. Yeah, I'll worry about my sister. I'm gonna keep going and Ran out of cash and then they put on the notice on the door that says pay rent or
Starting point is 00:04:05 quit I said well shoot I guess I gotta quit. I'm gonna give you. Wow. And I moved from my apartment to my car my mom's best friend paid for my storage I was like I'll just figure it out. Don't look sad I'm here. You are here. And I was without a place to stay for seven months. Welfare, food stamps, selling my clothes so I could eat, put gas in the car, et cetera. But my optimism for the most part of my faith kept me. I never knew it was gonna take seven months.
Starting point is 00:04:37 I'd get up every day and say, oh, this is the last day. This is the last day, this is the last day. And I have a whole bunch of funny stories that tell about what happened during that time. There was a moment where I did crash. I was like, this cannot be happening to me. This is now probably months in, and I'm like, wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:04:57 I went to school, I got good grades. What did I do wrong? And I was like, okay, am I being punished? What is this? So, luckily somebody called me. They sought me out to do some PR marketing work. They saw my work at Apple Bottoms. I'm like, could you have called months ago?
Starting point is 00:05:15 And it was to do some PR marketing work for their spouse and they referred me to somebody who referred me to somebody who referred me to somebody. I looked up, I was like, okay, I got a business. And I found that so interesting because the moment that got started, it happened with such flowing ease. And I said, Erin, you were created to do business in this earth. And the moment you stepped out of that, you caused yourself more chaos and more headache
Starting point is 00:05:43 than when you had the store. Like the ups and downs at the store were nothing like me having to try to figure out how I'm gonna eat the next day. Right. You know, I was like, you have to stay in alignment with your purpose and your calling in this earth because even if it has ups and downs, it's nothing like being outside of that. Yes, exactly. So what happened after you got that call? Oh, I ended up building a PR marketing company from the ground up, servicing clients like from the Sony Pictures to the Walt Disney's of the World and Universal and everything else.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Yeah, we worked on Blockbuster movies. So Will Packer at the time was not the Will Packer. I called him when I was living out of my office space. So I went from the car to the office. And I said Will I've started this company. This is what I do. I found out that studios actually outsource PR and marketing companies. He said Erin your timing couldn't have been more better. And I said what's going on? He said we are getting ready to release our first big theatrical movie and we're going to produce it in Atlanta. And I said what is it? And I said, what's going on? He said, we are getting ready to release our first big theatrical movie, and we're gonna produce it in Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:06:47 And I said, what is it? And he said, Steppen. That was the working title. It's known as Stop the Art. Which was my first, that's my work. And that was their first big theatrical release. Wow. Exactly. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Because they had the gospel before, but that was the first big one. And the movie was number one that was the first big one. And the movie was number one, two weekends in a row. So my phone starts ringing with all the studios. I bet. They're like, she did this, we need her. They're like, what's going on?
Starting point is 00:07:15 So yeah. That is incredible. Oh, thank you. So at that point, did you move from Los Angeles to Atlanta or did you stay in LA? No, I had to come out to Atlanta to for when it was being filmed. But I didn't just move to Atlanta from there. Now, yes. Oh, my goodness. It's funny because Will Packer is married to my cousin now.
Starting point is 00:07:34 And Heather's my cousin. Yeah. Oh, Tennessee. Yes. Oh, my God. Heather Hayslip. Yeah. I'm like, yes. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Small world. I love Heather. She Oh my gosh! Small world. I love Heather. She's everything. She is. That is my girl.
Starting point is 00:07:50 She's everything. Oh my gosh. I'm like, wait a minute. Yes, small world. Very small world. But Stomp the Yard 2, the sequel, was my very first film that I worked in as an extra. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:08:01 So yeah, I got my start. That was before Heather. And it was years later when we found out that they were gosh. So yeah, I got my start. That was before Heather and it was years later when we found out that they were together. But yeah, small world. Small world. I worked many in films with Packer. Yeah, he's incredible. Yeah, I love that. So what was the pivot to what you're doing now? How did you even get into venture capital? Okay, so I started meeting people who were in the space. I took a meeting at Gary Vaynerchuk's office, VaynerMedia, with Gary V himself.
Starting point is 00:08:32 He's a social entrepreneur person known on even, you know, on the internet. And in the meeting, me and my friends were pitching to him a $10 million basically pitch. Wow. Girl we ain't get it but it's okay. Wow and we did not know at the time he only had a 25 million dollar fund and the fund had been deployed. So we find this out after the pitch which was so funny but afterwards I remember standing on the
Starting point is 00:09:01 streets in New York just froze and my my friend, he looked at me, he said, Arianne, he said, you want to be on the other side of the table. I said, I do. I said, this is how I get to make good on the promise I made to myself in college. Come on. And from there having that awareness,
Starting point is 00:09:18 I just started meeting other people in venture capital at different events. I started, let me tell you, there's fearless fun what people know today. It was words. I was like let me tell you, there's fearless fun with people who know today. It was words. I was like, I'm building a fund. I'm building this fund, it's for women of color. I was going around telling everybody,
Starting point is 00:09:31 girl, there wasn't a cent in the bank yet. I opened a bank account at Citizens Trust. This is a true story. I went there, met with the manager, and I said, I'm building this multi-million dollar fund. And I told her all about it. I said, I'm gonna open it up with this $100. I said, I know.
Starting point is 00:09:51 I said, I know. I'm not mad at it. This person may have thought I was crazy. They're one of my biggest advocates now. But I'm like, I said, I wonder what Tanya was thinking. Like she's probably like, this girl's nuts. But I got $100. I'll take it right.
Starting point is 00:10:04 We're gonna set this account up. I mean, she saw a year like, this girl's nuts, but I got $100. I'll take it right, we gonna set this account up. I mean, she saw a year later, the millions coming in, she said this girl really did what she said she was gonna do. That is incredible. So how did you go about it? Like you said, it just started with words. What were you telling people to make?
Starting point is 00:10:19 Because I want Arshana to hear this. I was telling people my, where's mine? Right here, baby. I was telling people my vision.'s mine? I was telling people my vision. And they were buying into the vision. And I told, I ran into somebody named Rodney Sampson, known in Atlanta in like the tech space, Tracy Gray. These people ended up being on our advisory board,
Starting point is 00:10:36 but I just started telling people my vision. And they were like, okay, it's a little far fetch, but if you believe and you sound like you believe, we'll rock with you Wow Now what were some of the hurdles as you're building this? Let's I want to get into that because people see where you are now and it's like it like Capital intensive. Yeah, that's first and foremost You need securities attorneys to even set it up and you're talking about a setup fee. That's probably
Starting point is 00:11:06 six figures. Yeah, a setup fee. You could find, I figured out how to cut every corner, trust me. I was like, okay, can we figure out how to set this thing for like 15? I'm like, let me step this thing. But as I was selling the vision, I started to raise money and started to raise it from individuals at first.
Starting point is 00:11:25 And then from there, I was at a family homecoming and ran into somebody and I sold the Vision again and they were like, hey, we'll have our company come down and meet with you. And they were our first institutional investor. So it was Lisk. And then after Lisk was like fifth third and I think Costco, but the names were there.
Starting point is 00:11:46 And when the wake of George Floyd hit and a lot of the commitments to the black community took place, we were literally the right people in the right place at the right time doing the right thing. So now inbound is happening. So, but mind you, I spent three years of grinding, two years plus of no salary, just trying to figure it out to get there.
Starting point is 00:12:08 So yeah, it was a lot of years of still selling the vision. Yes, and can you explain for people who don't know exactly the mission of the Fearless Fund? Yes, thank you. The Fearless Fund is the nation's first, or even the world's first venture capital fund that's built by women of color for women of color We invest in women of color co-founded companies and the reason why is because women of color are the fastest growing
Starting point is 00:12:34 Entrepreneur demographic, but unfortunately the least funded you're talking only 0.39 percent of venture capital funds are going to women of color in the u.s While main it's over 20 percent of the U.S. population. So the stats are ridiculous. That's why we do what we do. Yes, and then you guys hit a roadblock, a huge roadblock with the lawsuits. That's an understatement.
Starting point is 00:12:58 A huge roadblock, it's like, what is happening? In that moment, when it's all happening, what is Arian Simone thinking? Well, when everything hit, if we have time, I'm gonna walk you through today. So on August 2nd, 2023, the staff starts reaching out saying, at least the reporters are calling us about a lawsuit we have.
Starting point is 00:13:24 So we're having a lawsuit. Like I was just calm. I said, we're having a lawsuit. I was just calm. I said, you know what, just don't answer the phones. Keep going on with your day. And they kept calling. I said, y'all, this is chat GPT. They have us mixed up with somebody. Clearly.
Starting point is 00:13:36 I'm up here blaming it on chat GPT, literally. Wow. And I was like, I said, it'll fix itself, because we don't have a lawsuit. Then they were lying and we are being caused by the Wall Street Journal and roaders and very credible media outlets who are all over the news right now.
Starting point is 00:13:54 And I was just like, if there's a filing, can you find it? Because lawsuits are public. I said, they gotta file it. And 45 minutes I got a call to have found the filing. Now is that something your lawyer should have caught like when it happened or you just never know? Technically, no. So since COVID you don't have to serve people in person. You can serve them through email.
Starting point is 00:14:19 Which I had not opened the email where they were sending emails at all. And even then I still didn't open it. I found out much later, I was just like, oh, I was being served through the internet? I was like, who does this? You're like, okay. But then I knew because I hadn't accepted being served, they were aggressively of course, also looking for me.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Yes. That's scary. Very, very. But I use my rights. I guess I'm well equipped. I use my rights. Wow. So that day they found the filing and I saw the top of the filing. And it's a United States district.
Starting point is 00:15:01 And that's when I said, oh, my gosh, we have a federal case. So I text Ben Crump emergency. I'm hitting up everybody. I'm hitting up Derek Johnson head of the NAACP. I'm like y'all gotta help. Something's going on. I was like I don't even know what happened and I said who is this and they're like Ed Bloom and I was like I know that name. They're like the guy who stopped affirmative action. I said at the Supreme Court and I was like the Supreme Court. And I was like, oh my gosh. So I was thrust into this just overnight, like what is going on?
Starting point is 00:15:31 So it was very abrupt. They filed three things against our company, a temporary restraining order. I thought those were for like crazy ex-boyfriends or ex-girlfriends. No, you can file a TRO on somebody's business and put them out of business. Yes, they wanted us shutting down operations by August 17th.
Starting point is 00:15:50 And I said, what? They were like, do y'all have an event coming up? The attorney's asked. I said, yeah. I said, it's the 18th. They said, that's it. I said, oh my gosh. I said, why am I disturbing these people?
Starting point is 00:16:00 This is literally, that's when you know it's the spirit of fear. This is literally a trillion dollar financial disparity as far as funding to people of color. You're worried about, in the big scheme of things, I am so proud of what we've done, but you're worried about a couple hundred million. Like, you've got to be kidding me. This is a trillion dollar issue. We're not even making a dip in this statistic. Like, you've got to be kidding me. I'm that much of a threat, that you want to shut this down?
Starting point is 00:16:28 But prior to the fearless fund, the average fundraise for a black woman was only $30,000. Oh yeah, we came on the scene cutting seven figure checks. So it was very disruptive, but very needed. Yes, yes. So this is mind blowing. All this is happening and then,
Starting point is 00:16:46 so you have to cut off everything. Yes, so if anybody doesn't know, the court case was for alleged discrimination. They said we were being discriminatory because we were investing in black and brown women and not white businesses. You are kidding me. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:17:03 And they said we were violating, they claimed we were violating a civil rights law. I thought that was still part of the hoax. Hello. I said, I did. I said civil rights, I was like civil rights are put in place for black people. For this very reason. What you talking about?
Starting point is 00:17:16 I said, oh this is going to get dismissed. They have this wrong. Yeah. Oh my goodness. And now with DEI being cut everywhere. We tried to warn everybody. Did you? Yes. I kept to a post like, yes, because we were the first DEI case.
Starting point is 00:17:30 I said, sound the alarm. I said, we are inaugural defendants in one of the most defining lawsuits of our time. Please let people know this is real and this is happening. Oh my goodness. So what happened with all the black women that you were helping with their businesses? Oh no, they still got their money. Oh, I know that's right. And during the court case, I was still deploying. I was still cutting checks left and right. I said, hey, we're going to keep this thing. Yes, I was still cutting checks. Wow. So where is the fearless
Starting point is 00:18:00 one? We still cut checks now too. Well, the lawsuit is permanently dismissed praise god. Oh good okay. Yes permanently dismissed um what was that September 2024 so it was 13 months yes of a federal court case so just mind you people hear and they see what went on in the media. I said people have no clue. Yeah that fall was one of the hardest seasons of my life. Yeah That makes living out the card like a piece of cake listen I can I can't imagine but I can one of the hardest seasons of my life Oh, I had people come for me honey that looked just like me and you it was a mess Oh, it was a mess. I can't imagine what in those moments. I know you you speak very openly about your faith. How did you lean in on those?
Starting point is 00:18:48 Because I know a lot of times you're like, Lord, OK, now I know I'm strong. I knew the moment it hit when I realized we had something real. I was like, God, your hand is on this. I was like, I grew up around Rosa Parks. I grew up around Coretta Scott King. I grew up around Betty Shabazz. I said, your hand. You grew up around all Parks. I grew up around Coretta Scott King. I grew up around Betty Shabazz. I said, your hand is on this.
Starting point is 00:19:05 You grew up around all those? Yes. What? Mm-hmm, civil rights icons, and just women in the movement. I said, this is not by happenstance. We gotta talk about that too. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:19:15 I think it's crazy too, because now I sit back, I'm like, I would have asked y'all so many more questions. Yes, right, yeah. Had I known this. Yes, yeah. And I was a kid. I will go back to school. Give me two seconds. Yeah, do you when you do. Had I known this. Yes, yeah. And I was a kid. I will go back to school.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Give me two seconds. Yeah, do you think? Yes, no, I'm in jail. So there was one moment when I remember being about 14 and my mom was like, I always traveled with my parents. They were like, you know what? We're going down ahead. You and Ashley had come down after us.
Starting point is 00:19:40 And I was like, okay. They were like, you're coming to Alabama. And I freaked out. I said, I don't go to Alabama. Now at this point, I'm well traveled. I've traveled countries, states, all of it. Not going there. I said, Mrs. Parks has told me about the Klan
Starting point is 00:19:52 and all these crazy people. I said, I don't want to see them. I said, mama, do you have a gun down there? Like, what is going on? Like, I don't like this. Like, I didn't want to go for anything. She said, she said, Arian, Coretta Scott King, Juanita Abernathy and Rosa Parks are waiting on you.
Starting point is 00:20:06 And I told her I could see those old women anytime. Lord forgive me. But I was young and I had no appreciation of it at the time because this was just my life. She was like a grandmother to me. I'm checking on her after school, bringing groceries, stuff like that. So this is not even like, oh my gosh, it's my norm. Yes. Wow. And she was like, Arian Simone Reid, you will get your behind on that plane. So I got my behind on that plane. How old were you then? I think I was like 14. Yeah. Yeah, I was 14. Oh my goodness. It was an anniversary for one of the Montgomery bus boycotts. But yeah, I pulled on that. So yeah, my faith is strong. When it happened, I knew God's hand was on it. And I was just like, I knew my steps had been ordered.
Starting point is 00:20:50 I knew I was covered. I said, okay, Lord, no weapon formed against me shall prosper. I said, any tongue that rises up against me, I shall condemn. I said, okay, I'm gonna stand on your word. I said, I believe you. I believe you watch over it to make sure it is performed. I said, I'm gonna stand on your word. I said, I believe you. I believe you watch over it to make sure it is performed.
Starting point is 00:21:05 I said, I'm with you. So yes, my faith got me through, cause I had no clue that through something like that, that even other people would try to attack you because they think you're vulnerable. I was like, oh my gosh. But we had a lot of support. So we gonna keep it positive, sweetie.
Starting point is 00:21:24 Always, always. We had a lot of support, so we're gonna keep it positive, sweetie. Always. Always. We had a lot of support through the process, and I'm so grateful. Now have you seen those people that came after you since then? And they see that it didn't work and no weapon formed against you so prosper? He lays the table. Yes, yes. And they watch the piece.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Yes. I know that's right. Mm hmm. Oh my gosh. So let's go back to Rosa Parks. Yeah, Coretta Scott King. What? Yeah, this is crazy.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Like it's funny. I was on the phone yesterday with a friend and he was like, you guys my looking like Rosa Parks. And I looked into camera and I was like, you guys are looking like Rosa Parks. And I looked in the camera and I was like, oh, I can see it. Cause I didn't have my makeup on, I had my glasses on and my hair was like,
Starting point is 00:22:11 it wasn't like slicked back. It was kind of like out. Like I was like, come on, biopic Rosa. Come on. It's funny you said that. And then the moment says you're a child, not realizing the preparation that you're like around and the preparation to do what you're doing now.
Starting point is 00:22:30 God makes no mistakes. It was already written. Oh my gosh. So where you are now, you're still writing checks. The Fearless Fund is still thriving. What are the initiatives that you're going after now that you're over that hurdle? Before we got sued, my staff even has my own video talking about this. I didn't even notice it was coming around the corner. I told them at our retreat, I said, you all,
Starting point is 00:22:54 when we finished raising funds too, I said, I'm going to actually take a step back and get into more advocacy work. I said, I have to stand up for this kind of work that we're doing. I said, because we don't need the fearless fund, we need fearless funds. I said, I have to stand up for this kind of work that we're doing. I said, because we don't need the fearless fund, we need fearless funds. I said, we need more people having the opportunity to do what it is that I do. I said, so I'm gonna get into some more advocacy work. I said, and we're gonna have to make sure that people are aware of what this racial disparity is and how do we actually fix it. So I had no clue that this would turn in to the way it has
Starting point is 00:23:25 and giving me a platform to have a voice to speak about it more. So. That's incredible. Yeah. Are you, do you do like mentorship programs for young entrepreneurs that are trying to start their own business?
Starting point is 00:23:38 Not necessarily try to start their own business, but the second they have, we have a program called Get Venture Ready. Okay. So people who have started their business and they're looking to get venture dollars, we have programs for them so they can learn about their options.
Starting point is 00:23:50 And venture capital's not for everybody. It's very aggressive and it's very fast. Venture capital, to those of you all who are listening, looks like Shark Tank. So people say, hey, can you give me $500,000? I'll give you 10% ownership of my business. And that's exactly what it looks like, just like Shark Tank. Now that's semi-aggressive,
Starting point is 00:24:12 because we're looking for you to exit in five to seven years. Whereas we also have a loan program. We have a $200 million loan program, and people can apply for $5,000 up to $250,000 if you just have 50,000 in revenue. Credit score is 600. So that's the criteria for that program. And then at our foundation we have grants.
Starting point is 00:24:33 So we have multiple financing options depending on where you're at and what is it you desire to get done. So say I was an entrepreneur. You are. Here we go. And I was coming to you to present my business looking for funding. What are you looking for? That's good.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Because I know people are like, well, what do I need to be prepared for when I go ask for this money in this capital? Well, there's four indicators, especially on the venture side. We do look for a good brand story because you got to be able to sell it. Like I sold the vision and now we're here with the fund. You gotta be able to sell it. You need to have a strong team because that's nice once you sell that story.
Starting point is 00:25:12 It's like, okay, are you all equipped to actually go execute what you're selling to us? You wanna have a good product and you wanna have traction. So traction can look like anything. So we invest in CPG, which is a consumer packaged good, any type of product. We also invest in technology.
Starting point is 00:25:29 But with that being said, technology is very capital intensive. So people may not have the revenue to say it's traction. They may have, oh, my email list has 50,000 people on this wait list. That's traction. I've had this many downloads, that's traction. I've got this many social media followers, that's traction.
Starting point is 00:25:47 We know you have people who are interested in what you're talking about. Yeah, oh wow. Okay, so let's backtrack to the person who's just got an idea. Before they even can even get to you, what are some things they can do to build that social media presence,
Starting point is 00:26:00 to build the traction, to get the emails, and all those things? You'd be surprised. Ideas get funded every day. Wow. to build that social media presence, to build the traction, to get the emails and all those things. You'd be surprised. Ideas get funded every day. Wow. Those are our four indicators we look at, but ideas do get funded every day. Wow.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Okay. It's good to know. So you guys, listen, you need to hit Arian up. Or hit the fearless one up. So how would you define success when it comes to being an entrepreneur? Because so many people feel like, well, I'm not where Arian is,
Starting point is 00:26:30 or I'm not where Crystal is, or I'm not here, but where would you define success so people can understand there's different levels and you don't have to be here or here? Oh, completely. But it's whatever your field of, I would say like field of influences. I define it as, you know, just impact.
Starting point is 00:26:47 If you've changed one person's life, you know, just by your presence and by what it is that you're doing, that's impactful. No, for sure. That is impactful. Has your idea of success evolved over the years? Has it evolved? It probably has.
Starting point is 00:27:06 Cause I know for me, like, I remember where I was say, 10 years ago. 10 year 20s and success was like a dollar amount. Yeah, that was success. And then where I am now, I'm like, that was nowhere near what I thought success was. And then still today, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:27:19 I still have so much further to go. You know? That is true. I've always looked at it like, of course, I'm always growing, always evolving, always achieving. Always, yes. But I still think every level was successful. Yeah, no for sure. So I get what you're saying, like, oh no,
Starting point is 00:27:39 I feel like I haven't made it, I'm doing this, doing that. But you're successful. Yes. You've been successful. Yes. Maybe because I just operate from like a pure place of gratitude. So yeah, I think, so that was where I would say where it has evolved.
Starting point is 00:27:54 Okay, I love that. Yeah, I wouldn't have said I was successful all those times, but now I look back and say all of that was success. Yeah, I love that. What actually inspired you to even create the Fearless Fund? Was it just seeing? That promise I made to myself in college. I had the experience of going to pitch as a college student.
Starting point is 00:28:14 What was your major? I was a business major. But I majored in business in high school. Like we went to a high school that had majors too. So going through that process and seeing investors do not look like you, going through that process and I'm talking about I'm suited and booted even as a college kid and I'm giving them my best
Starting point is 00:28:34 at that time business plan. This is before Dex quote unquote were around and I was like, this is not working. I was like, there's gotta be somebody who can understand my story. There's gotta be somebody who can understand my story. There's gotta be somebody who's going to believe in me. And I sat there on that floor amongst the inventory and I said,
Starting point is 00:28:52 and don't you worry about it, because one day you're gonna be the business investor you were looking for. I love it. Can you share a success story of a business or entrepreneur that you guys have sown into and invested in? Oh honey, plenty. Please share it, because I'm excited to hear about it. into and invested in? Oh, honey, plenty.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Please, Sherri, because I'm excited to hear about it. You said plenty? Yes. I mean, we're investors. You know these companies, Partake, The Lip Bars, Letty Vegan. What? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:14 I had no idea. We got the hit list, OK? We got the hot roster. I didn't know that. Oh, yeah, we got all the success stories. Yes. That is amazing. So how did Pinkie come in?
Starting point is 00:29:27 I don't think she came in. I was probably a... slutified, whatever they call it. You were taking a bite of the burger. Yes, customer, oh yes. And then I heard through her manager at the time that they were having a round of funding. And I was like, oh you're going to cut me in. I know, that's right. And he was having a round of funding and I was like oh you Don't cut me in I know that's right. He was like I got you I was like cool
Starting point is 00:29:49 So that's how that happened. Okay, and then Marissa the lip bar. I just saw her she actually Came to us, but I was there Probably maybe I don't know if it's week one two or three. I pledge Melissa. I We have the same. Yep. We are Melissa, I, we have the same, yep, we are deltas. We have the same high school in common. We are both from the same side of town in Detroit. And then we both went to FAMU.
Starting point is 00:30:14 So I was not in her diligence process. Cause I said, y'all have to keep me honest. Cause I was like, I was there week one when she was in her studio apartment in New York, making vegan lipstick from the stove So I was like I gotta step aside on this one. No, there was times we think the deal was happening She was like spatch. I don't think it's happening. I said, I don't know they ain't giving me a good report right now So it went on for like a couple months back and forth legal
Starting point is 00:30:41 Diligence papers and then she called she said It's gonna happen and I cried I had never cried we had invested but I said this is somebody I saw day one built this business I said I'm honored to cut this check. Oh see I love hearing stories like that and that was another thing that guy he designed that it was written since y'all were kids like what you know I'm saying like that's crazy that is crazy how can people if they want to get involved if they have the money and they want to just even donate to the fund how can they do that donations to the foundation are at the fearless dot
Starting point is 00:31:20 foundation any information for the fund is fearless dot fund F-U-N-D. Okay perfect. Yeah because I'm sure people listening are gonna want to get behind this. Oh thank you. Yeah especially with everything that's going on with DEI and our funds being cut everywhere you turn. How do you feel about the boycotts on different companies? Girl don't get me started. I'm not on social as much lately, but when I have had to say a few things here and there, I have a lot of feelings. I have told even the black and brown brands at Target,
Starting point is 00:31:58 I said, if you can walk off the shelf the same way they can cancel you, you can cancel them. I said, and you all probably need to walk in your power. I said, if I were you, I'd send a collective letter expressing your concerns that when I entered into an agreement with your company that these were your value systems, this is where things lined up.
Starting point is 00:32:17 This is why I chose to be in partnership with you. I said, and I'd have everybody sign it. And I said, because you have now changed your values and I've entered into this business agreement with you. My products are now being part of a boycott that I wouldn't have wanted. So I may have to sue you for financial damages unless you want to change your values. Wow. I need you to call Aaron. We got we got to say how do I need to write this email? Oh wow.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Their board of directors would have hurt for me had I been in that position. Their board of directors and their C-suite. You are smart. And I would have had a meeting. I know that. And I would have had a check too. Yeah, because I love, I'm going to get friends
Starting point is 00:32:56 with Tabitha Brown, love her, and even Monique Rodriguez. Their brands are both on Target show. These are all my girlfriends And I've seen them get on Instagram and say hey guys If you do if you're boycott boycott and you're boycotting us so if you're gonna go only shop black brands, but when I think about it and I feel like If you just bring it and make your own website and sell it yourself and get a job I say y'all can all walk out the door and go start tarjay, baby if you just bring it and make your own website and sell it yourself and get a drop shipping. He can make way more money.
Starting point is 00:33:25 I said, y'all can all walk out the door and go start Tarjay. Baby, listen. All walk out the door. All of them. And make way more money. Collectively, I said, you all make them millions. Millions of money.
Starting point is 00:33:38 I said, stand in your voice. Yes. Stand in your voice. Exactly. So yeah, they, oh, Tarkin would have had a new announcement by the time I had gotten down with them. We would have saw a whole new press conference. You already know.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Oh my goodness. Yeah, I was, I see a lot of people doing the boycotts and pastors. Everyone's getting behind it. And I think it's very important to let our voices be heard and show the power of our dollar as a black community. Because even speaking of Rosa Parks, the Montgomery bus boycott did not just end due to morality, it ended due to economics.
Starting point is 00:34:10 They bled them out. So they were like, oh, we're gonna have to start this and fix some things. So yeah, you exercise, you advocate with your dollars. And I tell that to people all the time. So if somebody does donate from watching this, thank you all so much because you advocate with your dollars.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Exactly, they do. How do you balance being a leader, a business woman and an entrepreneur? Like you do a lot of things and now you're in your advocacy bag and you're all over. I can't imagine how you even keep up with the day with everything you have going on. How do you balance it all?
Starting point is 00:34:44 Well, I'm grateful for a great team. Yeah. I'm like you too. Yes. Yes. I'm like we may be small but we're mighty and lean. Okay. Yes. We are mighty. So I've been blessed with great people, great advisors, great team members. I have to really give it to them. Yeah. They keep my life in order so I can move and flow and eat. Yeah. Because I always see you around them like she's you always supporting everyone. Oh, thank you. Every time I see you, you're like we saw each other at Sarah J. Roberts book signing.
Starting point is 00:35:12 Yes. And I saw your Will's book signing. Yeah. Yeah. So you're always supporting everybody. It's my joy. I love that. I love seeing people succeed and I love seeing dreams fulfilled. I love seeing people walk in their purpose. Yes.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Yeah, this is this earth is fun. I love that. What roles has networking played in building everything you built today? Because I'm not the best networker. I tell a Sean all the time like I need you to come with me because I will sit in the corner and not talk to people but But it seems like you have the gifts. Well, somehow you have figured it out, though. You know, even last night I went somewhere and somebody else had to take me to meet the people
Starting point is 00:35:54 because I'm not going to be like, hi, I'm Crystal. How are you doing? I think people know who you are, though. I said somehow it has still worked out. But I get what you're saying. You're like, okay, if you're not like aggressively extrovert, if you're not that, I think you, I think you may have answered your own question because you're like, okay, I'm gonna bring an advocate with me. There's somebody that can say this is Crystal. Right.
Starting point is 00:36:19 Yeah, that's true. Cause I do have an issue with that. A friend of mine said, you network? I'm like, no, I'm not the best networker Like and I'm gonna be on energy. Yes the word itself Doesn't sound organic. Yeah, I think that's my problem. I don't want to yes, you don't want forced relationships I don't so I wouldn't even approach it from a networking standpoint because I'm big on energy too Yeah, if I rock with you, I rock with you and if I don't I don't and I'm really even approach it from a networking standpoint because I'm big on energy too. If I rock with you, I rock with you. And if I don't, I don't and I'm really okay with it.
Starting point is 00:36:47 Yeah, exactly. So I would just say I'm coming to make whatever genuine connections. Yeah, I love that. Are in the space that are there for me. I love that. What is next for you? Oh gosh. Because I know it's something, I know you got something in your sleeve. I mean if we're talking business I would say I
Starting point is 00:37:12 could sense a book. I did. I said literally when you I was like what you writing a book and you were like we need a book Arian. We need a book especially you talking about Rosa Parks and that was like your grandma. Well, the book is, it's in the book because the book is about picking up the mantle from where our civil rights icons left off and preparing a prosperous future for this generation.
Starting point is 00:37:39 I love that. I absolutely love that. Do you have a title yet? Can the kids' family get a little sneak peek? Ah! It's like not yet. It's in my room. I don't mind sharing it.
Starting point is 00:37:53 Cause it's, I know even my agency is making an announcement, but it's called freedom to be fearless. Amazing. Well, I have a, like, it's not really announced as a book club, but I do one book a month. So I'll make sure I share that. absolutely we'll read it a goal of mine this year was to read more because I just remember as a kid I would read all the time I would stay in my room and just like just going through the pages
Starting point is 00:38:18 and I'm like I do not sit down and read anymore so this year I started that and every month I do a book. Did that help you just dream big? It did. It did. Especially being from a small town. Like my escape was through that. All the small town success stories out of magazines and the books out here. I just, I literally was, when we were in LA for Essence last week, I just said that I was like, I was talking to one of the marketing execs at Essence, I said Essence magazine was in my, on my coffee table and it was also at our bathrooms. Cause back in the day we would have these little baskets
Starting point is 00:38:49 with magazines in it when you go to the bathroom. And it was Essence and Jed and Ebony, those are the magazines in there. So that was where I found my style inspiration. That's where I knew what was going on in black culture because where I'm from, it's predominantly white. So I didn't have that exposure. Like all my friends were white.
Starting point is 00:39:07 Like I was the black kid sitting at the table with all the white kids. So I didn't have that exposure to our culture except for through BET, MTV and the magazines. You're absolutely right. And it just, it showed me a whole new world and it got my mind. I said, as soon as I can get out of here,
Starting point is 00:39:22 I'm getting out of here. And I did. Oh my gosh. Yeah. That's soon as I can get out of here, I'm getting out of here. And I did. Oh my gosh. Yeah. That's beautiful. Thank you. Thank you. You pour into everyone.
Starting point is 00:39:32 How do you pour into yourself? Oh, I do. She said, oh, I do how? I do often. I'm even about to take off on a whole wellness trip. Good. Wellness resorts. I'm talking resorts that make you sign a contract
Starting point is 00:39:46 that you can't get on the phone. Oh, I need to do that. Oh, yes. We should do that, Ashanah. I think we should. Oh, yes. Literally. I love that.
Starting point is 00:39:57 Oh, I do. And Ashanah knows. She has done with one of her events. I sent her a gift card for Season Spy. I was like, go enjoy yourself. I said, go enjoy yourself. I'm very big on being restorative because I know if I'm a do all that, I have to pour into me.
Starting point is 00:40:13 So I'm very big on loving myself. I get up in the morning, I pray, I have a scripture, I meditate, I have affirmations. I say religiously, you know, I am intentional about loving on me. I love that. Yeah, I'm proud of you for that because I feel as black women we poor poor poor poor poor and then we're left. I know you run dry. Literally run dry. Yeah, so that's amazing that that you're intentional in that space. And before we get out, I wanted to ask you one last thing. Okay. You're a
Starting point is 00:40:46 queen. I am the queen of Dawa and Cote d'Ivoire. You are the queen of Dawa. Yes, in Cote d'Ivoire. Where is that? The Ivory Coast. It's right next door to Ghana. Really? So you can fly direct to Accra and then you can just hop on over to Abidjan. Wow, so how did that happen? That's why I said I knew I was gonna need some time if you was going to discuss this, but I'm going to give it to you. So I've always had an affinity for the continent. And when you're talking about just ordered steps and divinity, I never saw this coming.
Starting point is 00:41:17 I would always go over there in big ball gowns and big head wraps and just enjoy the fact that we come from Kings and Queens and I would just savor in it and I remember one day I got this call from one of our team members and they said Arianne because I was building a school in Cote d'Ivoire and they said when you land Estelle is gonna meet you. And I was like, nah, I said, I'm wearing my hair naturally curly. I just wanna feel like, you know, I'm the earth, mother earth, I'm just wearing my hair naturally curly.
Starting point is 00:41:54 Yeah, she was like, well no, it's for your outfit. And I was like, oh no, when I get to the school, I'm putting on jeans and you know, the polo top for the school. And she was like, oh my gosh. She said, you don't know. I said, what? She said, Arian, they're crowning you queen.
Starting point is 00:42:12 And I kind of laughed and got off the phone. I was like, oh, how cute. I didn't take it as, for real. I took it as like, this is an honor or an award or something like that. Oh, it wasn't until I got this long email that came through about the queen's ceremony and her coronation And then the queen addresses her people. I'm reading this email. I said her people addresses her people I was like, wait a minute This is me addresses her I was like
Starting point is 00:42:43 And then it said in there that the chief had prayed to God I have Christian territory the chief had prayed to God and Said this is her and I was just like what now this is even spook you out much later I get ready to board this flight Yeah, you know on the iPhone they have like these news stories that pop up for the day Yeah, the news story said five royal tribes that were captured in the slave trade. I was so freaked out, I didn't even read that article, I went back and read it much later. Then a year about later at one of our family reunions, now mind you I've done my DNA, I just I always, I never
Starting point is 00:43:17 focused on the west as much as I did the east. I was always so surprised how heavy east I was, considering most people and yes African Americans are very heavy West due to the transatlantic slave trade. So the fact that I was like 35% East African, Ethiopian, Eritrean, and all this stuff over there, I was like, this is interesting. I never even looked at the other side. So I'm at a family reunion and my family's like lineage,
Starting point is 00:43:41 we go back eight generations and we're very heavy into our family history. And they're doing a DNA test and all that. And I'm like, Arian, no, we got Ivorian blood. And I look and I said, oh my gosh, even if you see, we have a family genealogist and you can see it going up and up and up and up. And I was like, oh, this is freaking me out.
Starting point is 00:44:03 I was like, what is this? I know exactly, but it was definitely, it's truly an honor, but it's not just a title. It's actually a responsibility. These people are looking to you for leadership. They are looking to you for vision. As queen, you work with the government to help improve the welfare of the people.
Starting point is 00:44:24 So this is, it's real. Wow. And especially in African traditions, we have so many thrones. Like there's only, I think 12 monarchs that are still in power in the whole world now. But for Africans, prior to colonialism, you know, these were tribal lands.
Starting point is 00:44:42 This is being land that's governed by kings and queens, you know, and still it's respected today over there. So I land, and paparazzi's everywhere. I got on like a poncho, some sweats. I'm like, okay. Get to the hotel, they're like, what are you doing tomorrow? And I told somebody I was gonna have a spa day.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Told you I'll pour into me. They said no. they're like, what are you doing tomorrow? And I told somebody I was gonna have a spot day. Told you I'll pour into me. They said no. They said the head wrap lady will be to you at 6.30 and makeup is coming at six. I said, huh, this should be on national news at 8 a.m. Oh my, you're like, wait, what? Exactly, I was like, well, I said,
Starting point is 00:45:20 you know what, you're gonna surrender. I said, just go with it. I said, just go with it. I, I said, just go with it. I get out there. Luckily, on that trip, actually, my first lady was with me, Pastor Danielle Murphy, and she actually gave the sermon in my ceremony. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:45:35 And somebody translated it in French for the audience. And before I gave my address, and there was so many blooper moments, like, oh, Christina Murray was there at that trip. Like, oh gosh, she was standing up at times and the governor was like, tell her to sit down. She was at the dais. I said, Christina, we're supposed to be seated right now.
Starting point is 00:45:53 So it's all these different bloopers. A girl greets me with these flowers. I curtsy right with her. They said, somebody tell the queen to stand up. You don't curtsy, oh, you do not bow. So it was so funny, but I love the people. Did you have to like take like a crash course? Oh no, yeah, the moment I realized that letter was real,
Starting point is 00:46:14 they were like, you have government protocol tomorrow morning, because you need to know, of course, how to address people. I'm even still learning on the job to this day. I was just went to go visit one of my girlfriends over there for her brunch. And she's like, well, Arianne, of course, you don't do your title, you're at the head table.
Starting point is 00:46:28 And I was just like, oh, okay, I'm thinking, like, I just sit at the head table. I don't know that every time somebody speaks, I have to stand up and I have to greet them. So I'm always still like learning on the job because French culture is very big on protocol. Francophone countries and Anglophone countries are a little bit different.
Starting point is 00:46:46 Like when I go to Ghana, I'm like all relaxed, just chilling. I'm over in Cote d'Ivoire, it's like, okay, I already know I have to be on. But yes, it's my honor to serve those people. Yes, that is incredible. Oh, thank you. Oh my gosh, we are in the presence of a queen So crazy, I was wondering I was like, how did that happen? So how often do you have to go? I go technically I go
Starting point is 00:47:18 Seems like I'm in Africa so often but I am there in Java at least once a year Okay, I am on the continent sometimes every other month Wow We actually even at the fund and the foundation. So 80% of our funds are domestic, 20% are international. So I allocate grants through there. We have investments on the continent. So yes, it's wonderful. I love that. I do have a question.
Starting point is 00:47:40 There's a big misconception that Africa is not a place that you want to move to. But I hear so many Americans going back to Africa, Ghana, specifically. Ghana has done a good job. How do you feel about that? And is that something that you feel people should look into? Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:01 I even have Ghanaian citizenship. So Ghana has done a great job with just marketing the year of their return. Mm-hmm. And I would say this, because they're like, what did you think when you got here? And I was honest with them. What did you think? I said, you all oversold this place. And I've been back and forth to Ghana so many times since then.
Starting point is 00:48:24 I said, only because I'm somebody who's traveled the continent. I said I've been north, south, east, west. I said so I know what Africa has to offer. I said you all get enough so much tourism here. I said I did expect your infrastructure to be a little bit better. I said you go next door to Cote d'Ivoire and they said we already know it's gorgeous. So like Abidjan is called Paris of the West. Like I mean it's Abidjan,
Starting point is 00:48:45 I mean the beaches, Ivory Coast is known for their white sand beaches, all of it. It's gorgeous. So I will say this, I think that any black person should have that experience of being on your own land. There's nothing like it. I think that they should know the culture, the history, it's part of who we are. So I do encourage that. I encourage even if you want two places, it may be inexpensive to have a summer home out on the continent and then come back. So I definitely encourage it.
Starting point is 00:49:18 And like I said, God has done a good job of making it easy for people. What about safety? Because I went to Johannesburg with Tyler for Global Citizens Festival, and they were telling us don't have earpods in your ears, don't be on your phone in the car. Don't stop at the red lights when it gets dark.
Starting point is 00:49:34 Yes. I've been to Johannesburg a few times. Yeah, is it like that? And I didn't know if all Africa was like that, and you have other parts where it's war and they're slaughtering each other. No, one, I will say this, it's 54 countries. So no, it's definitely not all like that.
Starting point is 00:49:45 Africa has everything that you will find in the world. You're gonna find paradise. You're going to find third world. And you're gonna find city, high skyscrapers, all of it, like you saw in Jobar. So you're gonna see everything. You did see everything. Cause I can drive like 30 minutes to Soweto where
Starting point is 00:50:01 Yep, Nelson Mandela lives. And then it's like, you're passing huts in like correct you're gonna see all of it um but the level of beauty is unmatched you know so you're going to see all of it and those of us who can and we can come and do things to help make it better the investment opportunity is huge i sit on the board of Steve Madden. Our number one store right now is our South African store. Are you serious? Yes, we've expanded to the continent. And Steve Madden has some cute clothes now. I didn't know that. Yeah. Did he just start making clothes? We did. There's something revolve. I see it all the time. Yeah. I'm like Steve Madden. Yeah, y'all have some really, keep it up. Really some really cute pieces. I love surfing on the board.
Starting point is 00:50:45 Yeah, that's amazing. I do, but Africa has so much to offer. Yeah. Investments, opportunities. I even know people in your field. I have a friend, she's been very open. Gail Bean has a house in Accra, Accra. Yes, Accra.
Starting point is 00:51:00 But let me tell you, there are people who couldn't get through the door here, but got through the door there. I'm talking folks, you wouldn't know who they were. Now they got millions of followers. And I'm just like, oh my gosh. Because of the opportunities on the continent. I love the TV and film industry there.
Starting point is 00:51:15 Like some of my favorite shows are in Africa. You're a blood and water watcher. Oh my goodness. Poulang, yes, I met Poulang. The other sister, I sat next to her. Oh, I love it. At Essence last year, yes. I love it.
Starting point is 00:51:29 I was like, you the, yes. Splitting water, I just watched it. She's like, yes. That's one of my favorites. So good. Yeah, and the production quality is fantastic. Oh, it's second to none.
Starting point is 00:51:38 The acting is incredible. Now South Africa is 18 to one. I have a girlfriend there. Yes, she runs actually an agency, a talent agency. Used to work at Interscope. Now that she's there, her and her husband, their kids, she said, Arian, had I known I could get stuff at this level for this price? She said, I'd had three more kids. She said, I'm just past childbearing age. She said, but I would have had three more kids because she's like my house staff, you know, is very inexpensive. They have so much help. Oh yeah, I walked in the door. They pulled out champagne, everything.
Starting point is 00:52:08 I'm at this gorgeous house of hers and I said, girl, what does this cost? She said about 500,000. She said, but you know, this over there in America would have been millions. Millions, yes. Wow. So 18 and one there. All right, y'all'all we going to Africa. That's not true for every place where I am Queen. I will say this. It's not a steel. It's a little smidget, smidget less.
Starting point is 00:52:34 No, it's smidget less, but it's you don't see it. So it's now you're going to get that feeling of oh, no 500,000 is 500,000. Right. Right. Got it. Yes. Wow. I love that. Erin. I really enjoyed this000. Right, right. Ha ha ha. Got it. Got it. Yes. Wow.
Starting point is 00:52:45 I love that. Erin, I really enjoyed this conversation. I have too. I feel like we're just sitting in your house. Yes. Just having us a good time in our pajamas. Right. Yes.
Starting point is 00:52:54 We'll have to do that again. Yes. In our pajamas and really have a good time. Yes. Before we go, I want to play a game of this or that. Okay. Are you ready? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:53:04 All right. Let's see. We got angel versus seed investment. You said angel angel investment or seed investment. And I pick one one of the other. Yeah. Okay, what's the outcome? She is such a businesswoman. She's like no. What's just say just pick one. You just wait. I'm seed investment. Okay success versus failure. Is it success versus failure? This could be a have a caveat to it.
Starting point is 00:53:40 I know because people will pick failure because they actually get to learn from it. That's what I was thinking It's not a bad thing no, so it's like yikes I'm gonna go for success keep going. Okay, let's do it cash versus crypto Okay I'm old school. I'm like cash. I'm real old. I have not gotten into I don't trust it No, I did do crypto and I made a lot of cash. Oh, really? Yeah, I took most out.
Starting point is 00:54:08 This was, I was in it very early on. Early on. Yes. I don't know, it's something that I just really couldn't get into it. And I guess because I'm very old, I want my cash. But it's cash if I got to choose. I know that's right. Okay, investing versus saving.
Starting point is 00:54:22 I already know I'm investing. Period. I don't have the discipline to save. I have the discipline to invest. Don't get me wrong. I already know I'm investing. Period. I don't have the discipline to save. I have the discipline to invest. Don't get me wrong, I have a savings. Yeah. But I am so disciplined when I see that money going up. I just wanna add.
Starting point is 00:54:33 Yeah. I have a discipline for that. Right. I love that. Last one, sneakers versus heels. I think I know this one. I'm a heels girl. Yeah, I know this one.
Starting point is 00:54:43 I am. Yeah. I think I know this one. I'm a Hills girl. Yeah, I know this one. I am. So to end the show, we have what is called positive outcomes where our listeners write into us and we give them advice. You ready? All right. So Carol Lee writes, how can I balance my role as a giver and continue supporting others while setting healthy boundaries to protect my own well-being and foster a more positive dynamic within my family."
Starting point is 00:55:10 So you are a giver and you're supporting but you want to set boundaries. I've dealt with this where I'm constantly giving, giving, giving and you realize that your giving isn't helping people learn the lesson. Oh, it could be enablement. It very much and then turn to entitlement. I don't think that people who are givers should ever stop giving because I'm a giver. Yeah, I think you have to be mindful of who you're giving to. That's it.
Starting point is 00:55:37 Yes, because by default we're going to give absolutely. Yeah, because that's just who we are and how we're wired to be. Yes, but you have to be mindful of who you're giving to. Absolutely. Yeah. Because that's just who we are and how we're wired to be. Yes. But you have to be mindful of who you're giving to. Right. So I think the boundary more so is is where I'm giving going to bear fruit. Right. Yes. Yeah. And if it is not, then that's not I'm not giving. Right. Right. Got it. Thank you so much. Oh, no. Thank you. Oh my gosh. Thank you. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:56:06 Thank you. It's fascinating. Yes. Thank you for sharing everything with us. I appreciate it. Thank you for having me. Of course. I could be here all day.
Starting point is 00:56:15 No, same. I'm glad we did this because we have not gotten to talk. We've seen each other in passing so many times and never got to really sit down. This is amazing. Divine timing. Yes, yes. And we cannot wait for that book. Oh, thank you.
Starting point is 00:56:28 Super excited about it. Thank you. I'm excited too. Absolutely. You're welcome. Thank you. My goodness, I absolutely enjoyed my conversation with Arian Simone. There were so many gems. I mean, she touched on financial literacy, she touched on entrepreneurship, she touched on adversity in her journey and how she kept pushing
Starting point is 00:56:52 and I think my biggest takeaway from Arian would be to honestly look more into my heritage and my lineage to see where I'm from. Her talking about Africa and her being a queen in Africa was so inspiring and it inspired me to really look deeper into my ancestry. For all they say you don't know where you're going until you know where you come from. Thank you so much for tuning into today's episode of Keep It Positive, sweetie. Don't forget to subscribe, leave a review and share this with someone who could use some positive energy.
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