Keep it Positive, Sweetie - The Ministry of Storytelling w/ Mignon Von

Episode Date: July 27, 2025

This week joining us is actress and radiant spirit Mignon Von. We have beautifully layered conversation about what it means to live with intention, abundance, and alignment. We share our journeys of navigating Hollywood expectations and the spotlight. Mignon, is a bold woman of faith who opens up about identity, womanhood, and what it really means to want better than you've seen.

Calling all my sweeties to the forefront. I'm your host Chris Renee Hazlett and this is the Keep It Positive Sweetie Show. Sweeties have you ever met someone who doesn't just show up they shift the room? Yeah, we are talking impact. Today's episode is all about that quiet power, that loud purpose, and that kind of presence that leaves a mark after you've walked away. Because cute is cool, but impact is forever. Let's get into it. This is Keep It Positive, sweetie. Today's guest is someone I not only admire on screen, but deeply respect off screen. She's bold, she's funny, she's real, and you know she's one of those women who brings that light with her everywhere she goes. You might

know her as scene-stealing Dani from Tyler Perry's Sisters, but trust me, Mignon Bonne is so much more than a character. She's a storyteller, a creative, and a woman of faith. She has worked her way up in this industry with grit and grace and that signature Mignon sparkle. I am so excited to have this honest, joyful, and impactful conversation with my sis today. Sweeties, please give a warm welcome to Mignon. My sister! Hey, boo! Now, the people have been wanting this one. I know. They've been wanting it. No, thank you for coming. Thank you for having me. Yes, I'm so excited. I'm happy we can make their dreams come true. I know. See, this is what we do. Once again. No, people every week they're like,

we want more of Danny and Fatima. When are we going to get some Fanny? Or what's the name? Fanny Fatima? Yeah, Fanny. I think that'd be our nickname. Da-teema. Da-teema. Because Da-teema is like da-team too. Exactly. Yes. We make a really good team. I like it. We do. I do. Come on out. Put it together. I love it. Thank you so much. Thank you. When we're working,

we don't get to talk as much. In the past few seasons, we didn't have a lot of work together. The past few, now I think the last two seasons we filmed, we've actually gotten to work more together. We built our own relationship, our own language. I can just look at her and she's like, you know, I don't know exactly what she's talking about. It's so funny. I'm like, you guys, she's like, I'm like, got it. I read, I read all that. I read it. They all talk about how I go mute.

I do have like, I start counting. Yeah. But she has mumble core. She'd be like, you know what time we did with it? I was like, I didn't understand anything, but I understood everything. The crazy thing is me and my brother had that language. So I guess you really are my sister because he's the only one that understands me and you now.

My mom was like, what are y'all talking about? I was like, and he's like. Is that Tennessee? It must be. It must be. I don't know what it is, but that's what, yeah, I mumbled and you get it. I love it.

I love it. It don't even matter. It's like, just, she telling y'all that the pickup is wrong. Listen, get it together. I love it. So because we haven't got, we work, when we're working, we are working.

And I was like, I really want to sit down and talk to you and even for the audience to get to know you more. Because the times that we have talked have been so enriching for me, learning more about your faith. We have financial talks. We talk about so much, like in our breaks, it's like, what about this? Who do you use for this?

We like, we talk about so many different things. Helps me so much. Aw. You've got impeccable taste. Thank you. So, yeah. Thank you, thank you so much. But that's what it's about.

We talked about in our prayer about not gatekeeping and making sure that we're sharing the knowledge. And this season- You're not gatekeeping. I don't, for what? For what? Somebody told me, hello, why should I take what somebody else gave me and keep it all to myself?

Abundance. It's an abundance, as Mariah said. Yep. That's it. You got it. That's it. You got it. But no, I wanted to have you on so we could learn more about you.

Because when we are working, we don't really get to dive into those things. So I was like, let's have me on so we can really dive in, you know, dive into who you are, some of your goals and everything, just so we can know more about who you are. So you started, you were born in DC, raised in DC and then raised in Georgia. Raised in Georgia. Augusta. Augusta, Georgia. Augusta. Born in DC. Raising Augusta. I did go to the Masters last year. You did. Yes. It was crazy. Was it? I've

never been. It was great. We were Mercedes. We need to we need to make that happen. Okay. Because you drive a Mercedes. Come on now. Make it. Sadie. Yeah, like a ambassador or something. Yep Right there. You need to go to the Masters next year. It's an experience Yeah of a lifetime. I got to go and tiger was there so it was like really dope Well, that's the thing like growing up in Augusta literally lived down the street from the golf course. You might as well live a world away because you know it's an exclusive club so and I was like child whatever I'm trying to get out of Augusta and go to LA anyway. Right seriously what was it like as young Ming like were you always did you know you were funny

when did you realize that you had this knack for acting and even wanted to act? So I always say that it was annoying with acting. I didn't necessarily know I was funny until a certain age, but the thing about acting, it was understood. I was watching, I used to love Muppet Babies, and you know how there's the rolling credits. And there's Miss Piggy just being an actress.

I was like, oh, that's what I do. And I was like three. So it was just a knowing before there was an understanding of what being an actor or being Hollywood or movie star was. So I actually tried to get away from it. I thought I was going to be a marine biologist. I thought I was going to go into psychology just because of different struggles

and traumas and insecurities. And then eventually God was just like, nah, shawty. Nah, you got it. I put something in you for a reason. Yeah. What were some of those struggles and traumas that you went through to get that got you to that? Nah, shawty, you got this. Well, just so I went to Pepperdine University for film school. Graduated, had a hard time finding a job in film. So I worked in a nonprofit world. Eventually got a job in TV. I used to work on Dance with the Stars.

Really? Yeah, I was a PA. Girl, I've been a PA, a production coordinator, post production coordinator, coordinating producers, story assistant on short films. Like with other people's short films, I've been like an AD, been of course a PA. Me, I did't know all this.

Ma'am. Ma'am. Our stories are so parallel. I have no idea. Yeah. See, it is why you... So you... Yeah.

Find out the... But like, I just, I tried to work behind the camera. Then I was like, okay, I can work behind the camera and eventually put myself in stuff. Yeah. Because of the, you know, you experience rejection in life and you experience trauma and you experience being told, oh that's not for you. Delta Burke was Delta Burke, like you don't get to be your size and do this. How many people your size are doing this? You know, and so

it was like okay. So I was like all right, I'll just make my own stuff. And then doors started closing, and I started fasting, like, in my 20s. And one of the times I was fasting, I was reading a book called The Alchemist. Well, listening to it. That is one of my favorite books. It's absolutely one of my favorite books. I tell people to read it at the beginning of every year.

Top five. You know, I think it should be a ritual for me as well. It's so good. Because Paolo Coelho, I think that's how he pronounced his last name. I mean, he's also a believer. So it's just like understanding our journey, our life path is just really important.

And that book really helps you in like visual storytelling to understand your own personal heroes journey. And so anyway, so just kind of starting that it was so at that time it was kind of like the call to adventure because my brother was kind of pouring into me. I was fasting. I was like, God, just tell me if this is for me or not. My brother was like, remember that little girl who had these dreams and she didn't care what anybody thought and when you were a child and then there's you get to that part in the book of

the alchemist where it says well if a child tells you in a dream then it's true. Yeah. And I put all those things together and I was like okay I'm gonna move back to Atlanta. They'll see that I'm LA trained. I'll get all the jobs. Right. Because that's the move, right? People think, go to LA and come here. They're going to definitely hire me. Doors will open. Yes. They'll fly open.

Mm-hmm. Zero. Zero. My goodness. Nothing. But that's because God was like, take acting classes. Really get back to it. Because even when I was in college,

I was taking acting classes. But I still focused on film studies. He was like, no, you need to go after this hard 100%. And then I did that. I think I really knew I was funny because like in school, I knew I was funny. I knew I could make people laugh, but I did improv here in Atlanta

and we would have those house teams and people would come to shows and I would see the laughs I would get in real time. I was like, okay, you know, a little funny. I'd be kind of cute. Yes, that's funny. I've always been funny though. I don't know.

You are funny. Thank you. I mean, yes, I am funny. That's why people think I'm Danny because that's what I think I'm Danny in real life. Because like, no, yes, I'm hilarious. But I promise you I'm not her, but yeah. Yeah, exactly. So from moving from Los Angeles to Atlanta, all the doors, the rejection, being closed,

what was that first big break where you were like, okay, we got some traction here? Really? Sisters. Sisters was that moment. What year? What year did you move to Atlanta? I moved back to Atlanta like.

2016 so three years later because we got people like 2019. That's so true. It was only three years later. Yeah, which is I mean it felt like a lifetime. I bet it is. Yeah, because 2018 I moved back to LA. Yeah. Which is, I mean. It felt like a lifetime. I bet it did. Do you hear me? Yeah. Because 2018, I moved back to LA.

Mm-hmm. Thinking like. Yes, I remember you were in LA when we started. Yep, I remember that. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And thinking, okay, I gotta go back to LA if I want a real acting job.

Because out here, you're getting day player roles. Mm-hmm. You're not getting a series regular role out here. Right. So I was like, let me go to LA. A lot of times they're casting from Los Angeles for those big, those main roles. And it was pre-COVID. So I was like let me go back to LA. Get LA representation so I can get LA opportunities. Right. Zero. My goodness. That was my story too. You know my story worked

behind scenes for all those years and then finally got that shot. I remember the first day we met. for all those years and then finally got that shot. I remember the first day we met, you came into your fitting. I was costume designing season one. And I just loved your character because she was the she was so much fun. And I was like, we are going to have fun with her wardrobe. Change of my life. Oh, I didn't tailor clothes before that. Really? I did not. When you tailored my clothes, I was like, oh, I have a shape.

Honey, a good one too. Yes. Did know. Yeah. Did not know. A lot of people, some people just don't even know that's a thing. You think, oh, I can get alterations done.

I need something. But actually, buying something and tailor it to your body can change the entire garment. Literally, you can get something from Walmart, y'all. If you bought it on a budget, go to Walmart Walmart you got your auntie who know how to sew. Get that thing tailored to your body and it may look like it's from Louis okay? For real. But now it's a real thing and I think even just knowing the woman's body and knowing what parts to accentuate to like it just it brings out a different

type of confidence you know. But I remember you coming in and I got to watch your audition. I was like, oh my goodness. I was like, yeah, this girl is funny. So funny. I saw you on tape and I was like, yeah, she's got it. And just to see where your character has gone from then to now has just been amazing. Yeah, I want to talk about personally, can we talk about like just the anxiety and the Yeah, I want to talk about personally, because we talk about like just the anxiety and the the awareness that we have to have now that we're celebrities and we leave the house. How did you adjust from going from just Mignon to now it's like, Danny, Danny, Danny is that you? Like everywhere you go. It's not Danny. It's not. Only on TV. Right. I hide in public. I hide in place.

We talk like this. Because I mean, I know for some people, the lady Doth process too much. But I'm not her. And I am pretty shy when it comes to new people. I am introverted. Yes, I'm funny. And yes, when I'm with people I'm comfortable with

and it's like one-on-one, yeah, I'm like making jokes. And I'm the life of a party, but it's a small party. You know what I mean? It's a party of five people I know really well. But if it's like a big club thing, like I'm not getting on the stage and dancing. And so I'm shy. Like when a stranger runs up on me, I'm like,

it's survival mode, right? And then it's even more so survival mode when you realize that people know who you are in a crowd, but you don't know who they are. That's scary. You know what I mean? And I've had some instances that were really sweet, but a little overzealous.

And so it makes me, I was, like I said, I'm introverted. I've always been a homebody. I never understood the club scene, even when I was like, you know, in my college years, I was like, guys, we're standing in line in heels and short skirts and it's cold. Why are we doing this? Just so we can get in for free by 11? Like, I did not get it.

Right. I was a friend complaining the whole night. I hate to say it. That is funny. I was there. And so now I'm even more, but I will say with the fame, it's like, I'm in the house. Yeah, no, same. I'm even more but I will say with with the fame it's like I'm in the house Yeah, no saying I need to be out the house because I'm gonna meet somebody from in the house But that's what my friends are telling me they're like Chris So how do you expect to get a man if you're always in the house who you said to your door dash man? I said well, I don't even go to the door for him My directions are leaving at the door and then I watch them leave and drive off that I'm like Turn the corner you know a fear of mine is that like I'm gonna open the door they're gonna be right there so I'm always watching like from the ring and all my cameras I'm like okay they've driven off all right

and grab it primal fear primal fear and I feel like fame has given me that even more so even more yeah that I really didn't have you have that that primal instinct but when it comes to the fear that we have now I know for me like I've even more so before. Yeah, that I really didn't have. You have that primal instinct, but when it comes to the fear that we have now, I know for me, I've gotten death threats. When you told me that, it was visceral for me when you told me that. That's awful.

Yeah, it's scary, because like you said, I can be in a crowd where I don't know who they are, but they know, and what if that one person is just sitting there? The weirdo that, yeah. they are, but they know. And like, what if that one person is just sitting there? The weirdo that, yeah. Yeah, you know, you just never know. So it's always having like this awareness now, watching my back, you know what I'm saying?

There's so many different things we had to do now that we didn't have to do five years ago, you know? And that's the thing that sometimes frustrates me about my family's advice or friends' advice is like, do you know how to navigate what I'm navigating though? Does your advice take into consideration that you A, don't know how to navigate what I'm navigating and B, how to navigate what I'm navigating? And when it comes to friends that are in the same field

as us or like celebrities giving advice on dating, for me it's more so recommendations and saying, hey, I know this guy, I think he'd be great for you. Like that's kind of how I navigate it. But then I had other friends that do dating sites. I tried that, didn't work for me. So I'm like, I'm very much like,

I need somebody to know you. So if you try something crazy, at least I'm like, you said this guy was good, but he's not. And I tried Raya and I was just like, so I'm like, huh. I never would like try to match with anyone. So I'm not really that girl, but most people like that I know either do dating sites

and they've had great success with it. I'm just kind of afraid that primal fear that I'll be the one to swipe on a serial killer. Like, like, like, like, like,

with my luck. with my luck. I think you're right about referrals. I think they say that no matter who you are, that's still the best way is to tell people like, Hey, I'm looking for someone. Yeah. I'm in the market.

Like, either way. So maybe that's what I have to do. So are you looking? Are you ready? You know, this week I was thinking about that. I was like, I'm so used to being by myself that I'm like, I'm fine. You know what I'm saying?

Except for there's like certain moments where it's like, oh yeah, you wish you had a partner with you for certain things. But like, I tried to even like, I was meditating yesterday and I was just trying to think about, you know, the things that I wanted. And my mind was like, oh, okay, we can think about the gentleman.

And I was like, better things to think about. Like, you know what I mean? Cause I tried to like just hit every area of my life. And I was like, better things to think about. Like, you know what I mean? Because I tried to like just hit every area of my life. And I was like, yeah, you know. Yeah. Because I also think there's this phase that you go through in life where you think about it too much. And now you're just like, I'm tapped out.

Like, I can't. Like, this is going to come on. I'm older than you, Ming. So I will tell you, you don't want to get my age and be like, dang, I should have tried to focus on that a little a little bit. How do you focus on something that you can't control? Well by telling your friends hey I'm ready I'm willing to date if you know anybody that's great shawty swing on my way. I'm ready and I'm willing to date.

Alright. You can send the right person. See. Matchmaker, matchmaker, make me a match. See, there's only certain people that I want to send referrals. Because you got to listen now. You can't have everybody sending referrals, because everybody don't have the, I got you, I got you. Trust me. Yes, no, I can't ask all my friends that. Because sometimes they bring people.

I'm like, do you even know me like do you even know me do you even know me do you know me I don't know if I like your relationship come on yeah yeah that's real I think a really big part of it too is like I remember being like 12 13 like I wasn't always I'm a smart dummy or is that what I'm trying to say like I'm highly intelligent but I'm dumb sometimes dummy. Or is that what I'm trying to say? Like I'm highly intelligent, but I'm dumb sometimes. I think we all have that. Either we just some people are just dumb, but like yeah, some people are really smart and intellectual, but make really stupid mistakes. It's like why did I just because I remember being 12, 13, 14 trying to break up the patriarchy in my southern black Christian family.

You know what I'm saying? There's like a billion women in my family, but we do so much cooking that everyone's still tired, right? Yeah. But the men sit throughout the entire holiday. Oh yeah. We'll hear us arguing about who's turning into a wash dish. Obviously it's the teenage girls who are arguing like that, but we'll see that we're tired and we'll only get up to get a plate that's already made for them.

Won't wash their dish, won't help. The only thing they will do is maybe go to the grocery store when someone asks them to. Yeah. But the bulk of the grocery shopping is done by my grandmother before we get there.

Right. And I just remember being like smart saying, well, why don't we get some of the men to help? And the main people down my throat were the women. Wow. And I just remember thinking to myself, and this is a knock against my dad, my uncles,

all the men in my family, even though I know they love their partners, but I was just like, how can a man love a woman, see she's tired, and there's nothing in you that says, how can I help? My Lord. So I remember being 12, 13, 14, saying, Lord, I want better than I've seen.

And I think God stepped forward and was like, oh yeah, we can do that. But I think I didn't realize at that time that if I wanted something that I have not seen, I would have to go through a process that most people wouldn't go through. Right, that is so true. And so I think I'm still cooking. Yeah. Because he was like, you want it better. Let me, let me, yeah. You want it different, you want it more. So to whom much is given, much is required. So I think I'm still cooking, my gentleman is still cooking. And because I really, because I feel like even in the church,

a lot of men don't understand what it is to love like Christ. Because Jesus said, I think it was Mark 9 or Matthew 9, I can never quote the exact book chapter and verse, but he said, Nine or Matthew nine. I can never quote the exact book chapter and verse, but he said the Gentile leaders lured their authority over you. But in this kingdom, not so. Whoever desires to be great desires to serve. And if you have the mind of Christ,

if you're gonna love your wife the way Christ loves the church. Yeah, a lot of men were like, I'll die for mine. Yeah, but will you live for yours? That right there. Would you wash feet when you are equal to God? Yeah. Thought it not robbery to put on the flesh of a servant,

not a king, not a warrior, but a servant. Yes. And then die a death you didn't deserve. Yeah, you got the dying part, but you got the living part. And that's something I think I saw at that age, but you know, obviously I didn't have the language and still want that. And so.

That's what I love about you, I mean, like even when we go on our press tours and stuff and the way you speak on behalf of women, that started at a young age. The fact that you could see that and like, but why don't we get, why are they not? And I grew up the same way. I grew up on Sundays.

All the men were in the living room watching football while the women were cooking. Same thing, make your dad a plate. Like it was, that was the thing. And I still do that. It's like, when my parents said, here dad, here's your plate. Like that's just, it was programmed in me to do that.

But of course, like being who I am today, of course, I want someone where we can help each other, you know, and serve each other, not just a give, give, give, give, give, give situation. That's one thing I, I was telling JB, I was like, I love the way she just speaks for women and even some of the, the things that we go through and how you like, I don't want this struggle of we talk about that. Yeah. Even through your characters, like you want more for Danny,

like it goes from your real life. You talk about what you want and we talk about characters and like, yeah, this is what we want to make sure we're putting out because a lot of us are dealing with struggle of, and it's not fun. Yeah. It's not about tit for tat. You know what I mean. It's not about tit for tat. You know what I mean? It's not about tit for tat. It's about, it's about, it's about loves, about sacrifice. And it's really, and I think that's the other thing too,

me realizing like, when you marry someone, you're marrying their fears, their hopes, their flaws, their traumas, process or unprocessed, their triggers. Like marriage is a ministry, it's work. You know what I mean? And so I just think for women and men, because I can already see the comments, and that's fine. What if he's paying all the bills and da-da-da?

It's like... So basically, I'm a hire, is a woman a hired help? Is that what you're saying? Like is your partner hired help because you pay the bills? That means you don't have to pick up your drawers? Like you got the toilet looking like a Jackson Pollock paint and she got to clean it? What are you telling me? What are you saying to me?

That was gross, but I'm trying to be gross. No, right, because it's gross. It's gross. And so it's not about tiff or ties. It's about understanding how certain ideologies have infiltrated our society, and it's the foundation of our society. I mean, if you want to cuss somebody out,

it's a mother effer. What's your mama had to do with it? You're a son of a bee, a female dog. If you want to call somebody weak, you call them the P word, but P's push out babies. D's can't get hit without them punching over. So why is it that everything is female related or female oriented?

It's the substratum of our society. And I'm just, you know, sometimes I feel like that crazy person in a natural disaster movie with like a mustard stain on their shirt. And like, nobody will listen to him because their hair is crazy and all over their head, like right now. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

But at the end of the movie, the professor died in the first act. And they're like, they were right. Right. But you know what I'm saying? It's not about upending traditions. It's not about not loving your partners. It's just about understanding what it really means to love. And I don't know.

No, I love it. Yeah. I love your take on it. And I think it's a great conversation to have with men. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I just wish they could because I feel like a lot of men will get defensive when they hear that. Yeah. Some men hear it because they've been married and they're happily married.

Yeah. Emphasis on happily married. They understand that it's mutual. Right. Mission, especially the Bible talks about mutual submission. A lot of people don't focus on that either. Mm-hmm. We pick and choose. We pick and choose. We pick and choose. Like our parents do that too, like honor your parents, but also parents don't provoke your children around.

They miss the- Why do you always stop? Why do you always stop? You know? No, seriously. I don't know. I just, I think that's part of it too. When you're kind of on your own little, that's why I have the orbital tribe,

when you're on orbit, sometimes it takes longer to make a full revolution and encounter another in the same orbit. Exactly. You talked about fasting. This is actually a conversation we had in the garage after we just finished filming and you were talking about fasting. I didn't know you started fasting at the age of 20. Like that was when you started. Oh even younger. I think I tried one time when I was in, I tried in high school too. I did it actually. I was not fasting. I didn't do that until, probably until I really like got, became an adult or understood what it meant, you know?

I saw my parents fastening. Yeah, see? Yeah. I saw my parents fastening so I tried that. And the, but yeah, my twenties is when I really picked up and now mid thirties trying to get right, kick back into the swing of it because, you know, with our job, it's not always

you know always know where you're going to be what you're going to be doing right and you don't want to be trying to so yeah when you grew up in a Christian home and you said I saw my mom and dad fasting what did growing up in that Christian home what did it do to shape who you are today because I was just blown away just by our conversation in the garage that day. Like I love when things happen like that where we just start talking about the Lord and like well I fast and like oh I want to fast and I was doing this we had just finished with Lent and you were like let's do it together you know and I love that that orbit who's your tribe you know people that like are in alignment and that can like help you along the way

so what was yeah of course no thank you and I can't wait along the way. So, yeah, of course, no, thank you. And I can't wait to do it together. Yeah, I just had Dr. Sabie's daughter and she was talking about the three day fast. And I was like, we were talking about that. I'm gonna have to watch that. Yeah, it's so good. So good.

I'm subscribed, so I was like, tell me when it comes out. I was like, I'm subscribed. So I know when it's gonna come out. Thank you. But yeah, I wanna know, what was that? How did that shape who you are today? Because I'm really fascinated by how even just in conversation is so enlightening when you talk to people about God

and your faith. Yes. I mean, I tell my parents all the time. My parents weren't perfect people. But I mean, the more that I heal, the more I look back, I'm like, I had a fun childhood. I think when I was still healing, and I'm still healing, but just when things were more,

when I was more wounded, I should say. I was like, no, there are all these things, but I look back and there was just so much good. And I tell my parents all the time, if y'all did nothing right, not one thing right, except for raise me in the fear and ammunition of the Lord. That was enough. Yeah. That was enough. Yeah. Because they couldn't help me get on systems. They couldn't help me through school. They

couldn't help me through my job. Like honestly, my parents even qualified for a Parent PLUS loan when I was in school. Because they just fell on hard times. My dad was an entrepreneur and you know, before Obama, like it wasn't universal, not that we have universal healthcare now, but it's some iteration of universal healthcare. But I mean, so when my dad was sick,

it was out of pocket on us. Like, you know, it's, anyway, they couldn't help me in a lot of monetary ways, but raising me to love God before anything and anybody. That was enough for me. Yeah, and that's the foundation that carries us. Yeah, I know that is so true. Speaking of faith, something that I'm still

trying to grapple with is who I am on TV and who I am in real life. And is the character that I'm portraying, is God OK with it? Have you ever felt that? Because you know what I'm saying? Like the things that we do, but then how we live our real life,

like we have, me and Zach, we haven't really had to have sex a lot like we were that during that- Oh, in the beginning. In the beginning it was a lot. And I was just like, oh my gosh. But you were never nude. No, that's one of my, in my writer,

like no frontal, if it is, it's chest to chest, in my rider, like no frontal. If it is, it's chest to chest, but I have on nipple covers so like I'm not actually touching him. It was so much even with the agency coordinator, like these are my guidelines. This is where he can grab me only on my waist, no butt grabbing. Like I'm very, very particular about those scenes. And I love how now like I think with Armani, he's like, he'll see it,

and it'll be like one minute of like passionate sex. He's like, yeah, we're not doing that. He said, it'll be like, y'all are, huh, huh, huh. Then flip over. I'm like, okay, I like that, we can do that. It also takes too much time. You gotta get the intimacy coordinated in, you gotta get everybody out.

Way too much, yeah. But are you ever like conflicted? Cause I've gone through these times where I'm like a little conflicted about what I'm putting out there on TV and that's why I go so hard on this to put, try to like kind of balance it out, you know? I'm more concerned with messaging.

Because Danny is a sinner. We all are. Sinner's gonna sin. It's a character. Is there a redemptive arc? What is, what's our messaging? What story are we telling? What messaging are we putting out into the world?

That's what I care more about because even Jesus praised the shrewd servant who was stealing essentially. I tell people that storytelling is spiritual because what did Jesus do in order to get his message across? He told stories. Storytelling is a ministry. And that's why there's so much darkness in Hollywood, because the enemy understands how powerful storytelling is. Right. I think that's my point. And so I don't mind a character who's a sinner.

I sin too. I might not sin the same way she does. Absolutely. But what is our message? That's where I'm trying to tweak things here and tweak things there. And I catch things from the female perspective. And like, ooh. We've had those conversations.

Yeah. Where we're like, okay, where is she going? What are we doing here? What's the story we're telling? And then we're able to go back and say, OK, like this or this is fine, but we need to see where she's going. When you say the redemptive arc, where is this going and how can she redeem herself? That's one thing I love about Denzel when he plays all these characters.

And he talked about training day. And he said, yeah, he was doing all these horrible things, he said. But at the end, he did. Originally, he didn't die. He said, I wanted him to have or he did die. But he said, I wanted it to be brutal. He's like, and that's why it was as bad as it was, he said. I need them to understand when you do wrong, these are the consequences.

Like, you can't just get away with it, you know? And it made me look at it different. But just listening to you, even just now, really helped me kind of process it and not be so judgmental of the character or like overthinking it. Cause my parents are always like, it's storytelling, you're just portraying a character.

That's not who you are. But then I'm like, but what if somebody out there is really taking Fatima serious and like she's always carrying a gun and ready to book up on people and think that's the way to live, you know? So I was always like mindful of those things. And I understand that and I agree with that.

I think it's the job of us, Crystal and Minyarn, to be and embody our beliefs in our life. Our characters, and if I can't say this, I'm sure you can cut it, but we had this discussion for season 10. The storyline is like, if this is not gonna serve a purpose, then I don't know why we're doing it again. Because we've done this.

This is brutal. What are we saying? What is the point of it? And I think that's what storytellers have to take into account, not just entertainment. Because there are young girls watching us. And that's why I said it on Twitter. The season with Jonah, I said,

it's important for you to know, ladies and gentlemen, that we have to stop putting the onus on girls to not be attacked. Yes. Yeah. And we talked about that, too, on that when we were on the phone. Yeah. on girls to not be attacked. Yes. Yeah, and we talked about that too when we were on the phone. Yeah, just because she's wearing a short dress, she's asking to be raped. No. Men have to start teaching men to be safe.

Yes, I understand there's always gonna be criminals in the world, but good girls get attacked too. Yeah. Bad things happen to good people too. Yeah. So how do we explain that? Yeah. Exactly.

How do we put the onus on the girl then? Right. She wasn't drinking. She wasn't wearing anything wrong. She wasn't teasing anybody. Yeah. She was at the library. Right.

She was out jogging in the park. Yeah. Right. She was out jogging in the park. Yeah. Exactly. Okay ladies you take self-defense classes. Okay. She took a self-defense class. He had a gun. Yeah. So I think it's most important for us to understand what stories we're telling, what's the messaging. And I understand what you're saying about, you know, Fatima and Danny and all of that. But I just think that things like having Danny in therapy and having Fatima be the one who referred the therapist, that matters too. And I think that, you know, every TV show can't be the chosen. Right, right. Right. You know who else?

I talked to Devon Franklin about this. I always talk to people who I know are strong in their faith about when I have questions. And he was like, Crystal, he said, there's so many different characters in the Bible. And he was like, so what we're doing is just like, just we're acting. We're playing characters in real life.

And he said, and those characters in the Bible were living their real life at that time. And he said, you had all different types of people. And he was like, Samson was enacting baby. Hello. He was not acting. No, I might have been. But he was not. But he still fell for it. He still fell for it. He still fell for it. Seriously, so I've had these conversations

with a lot of people, especially in the industry, but also of the faith. They're like, how do you feel about this? Also, you don't control. You're not in the writer's room. I'm not in the writer's room. You don't control what your character does. I mean, obviously, where we are, thankfully,

we're in a space to be able to call Armani and be like, who are you talking about? You know what I'm saying? But I also don't think it's realistic to try to have every character be a saint. No. Cause it's almost, isn't it almost self-righteous if we think we have to play perfect characters,

if we ourselves aren't perfect? I'm not saying that to you, but I'm saying like, because I did have some, I'm saying that because I did have a church lady email me season one about Danny. Wow. I just ignored it. But I was just like, it's hypocritical. Like it's self-righteous. I mean, no, like I don't want little girls

to live the way Dani lives, but I still don't think Dani's deserved the stuff she went through. You know what I mean? So I just, it is a tightrope, but I think it's also just understanding. Like, Devon said, look at the people God used. Come on.

Rahab is in the lineage of Jesus. Like, when you look at Matthew, yeah. That working girl. Yeah. Is in the lineage of Christ. She is. So I don't think it's about God looking for people who are perfect. It's about God looking for people who have hearts that are looking for him. Yeah. It's not to say that we continue in sin so that grace may abound. Yes, no. But I mean, yeah, I think playing a character

who is imperfect is not only natural, but why would people watch it if it's not relatable? And then it's my job as a storyteller to have some message in there that I'm trying to download to people. Right. I love that. I love that. In the industry, is there any roles that you like or genres that you want to do that? Is there any type of- Honestly, probably horror because I don't like it. I don't watch it in my own life.

Me neither. I'll be scared. Even this stuff. I'm like- I'm so scary. And if I do watch something that people say like, you got to watch it. It's so good. I'll like try to watch it in the daytime because I am. I won't be able to sleep at night. I'm so scary. Can't do it. Yeah. Horror is definitely one of those. And then I used to say like those like demonic movies, like I'm really big on spirits. We'll talk about that, too. Uh huh. Yes, sure did. Yes. We were talking about that too. Yes, yes.

That's another one. Like, I think, what was it? Like the exorcist and the one that Lee Daniels just did. Where they had the preacher there. Yeah, talking about that one. Those are true stories. You know, so it's like, and demons are real. I didn't realize the exorcist was a true story. No, the one that Lee Daniels did, what was it called? The something, I said the something, but yeah, that was a true story, but they had a pastor on set praying every day, but the deliverance, but I know that, And then in the, I didn't, I never watched it, but I watched a lot of the commentary about it when people were getting online talking about it. The importance of binding demons in the name of Jesus.

And that was like the biggest part, takeaway from that movie. And I was like, okay, I guess if I had to watch it, when I see stuff like that, I'm like, it makes me more comfortable because I know you can. Well, they did cover that in the movie. That's good. Yes. Yeah. So that was good. But I didn't watch it because I'm scary. That's why I stopped watching that show, Evil, because I liked that show a lot. I liked it,

but I realized why they didn't talk about the power of the name of Jesus. Cause the show would have been over in two minutes. It wouldn't have been a show. It wouldn't even have been a short, it would have been a in two minutes. Wouldn't have been a show, it'd been a short, wouldn't even have been a short, it'd been a skit. Because they tremble at the name of Jesus. They do, baby, yes. You see what I'm saying? So, I mean, I believe in portals being opened up. I believe that demons have territory.

Like when Jesus cast legion out of the gentleman and the gatherings and they were like, don't make us leave this area. Uh-huh. Let us go into the pigs. Yep. And then they went into the water. But water is a body too.

That's why it's called a body of water. Come on. They need to stay in their territory. Yeah. And I believe that demons have like territory on bloodlines because of, you know, great granny putting roots on granddaddy because he wouldn't stop messing with Sherline. And now, now this, now there's,

the devil has a demonic contract with his bloodline because of grandma playing in witchcraft not realizing the ramifications of it. No, you are so serious. I was just having a conversation with a friend of mine. He's also in the industry. He's Nigerian. And he found out that the strongholds

that were on his life came from his lineage and how they were practicing witchcraft back in Africa. And it passed down to his father, to him. And he didn't know that. But he's been delivered since then. But he was like, it was so much that I learned when he finally went to go visit his father. And I was like, goodness, like that bloodline is serious.

I called my grandma and my dad. I said, did we have a root lady in our family or did anybody put roots on anybody? Yeah. And my dad said on his side, he had an auntie. People came to help for roots. Now explain roots. Literally a plant root. And like, I don't know what they would do, but I think you would drink it or get them to eat it

or get them to drink it. I don't know the whole process of roots. But she had a book on, I mean, I hate to say witchcraft, but I guess that's what it is. It was esoteric and it was spiritual. And it was... So, you know, witchcraft is the act of rebellion. I believe it's the act of rebellion

because instead of using the power of God, you're trying to use your own power. You're trying to control the circumstance and the outcome. And that's what her book was. It was just like roots and different things to make people do, you know, control things and manipulate. Right. And I feel like when people do that, it's them veering off, it's a rebellion, but also

some type of hurt where something didn't go or you feel betrayed by God that causes you to veer off. You know, and... I'm a witch of light. No, you're not. You're a witch. No, no, it's love, and it's light. But it's you're trying to control an outcome. That's why there isn't as much condemnation in my heart. It's like, you want to control things, and I get that. But the same way we're a host for the Holy Spirit, a witch becomes a host for the enemy of our soul.

Yeah, yeah. So that's so true. Yeah. My goodness. I want to talk about, we're going to switch gears a little bit, talking about how coming into where we are, kind of still the same thing, but how life has changed, even dealing with like finance, because there's something else we talk about all the time. We talk about finances. I've talked to you about my financial advisor, my accountant, and how she's like got me right,

because taxes is something that just hits different now. Deval called me one day about eyes red. DeVal called me one day about eyes red. Not eyes red? He said, I just paid the IRS. I said, oh brother, I feel your pain. You better not ever come get me. Listen. Because the amount of money I give y'all, you better not ever come get me. Seriously.

Too much. It's too much. It's too much. What did you like going from both of us, going from making what we were making to now. $12. $12. Going from making what we were making to now. What are some of the lessons you've had to learn

and even pivoting and some of the, even mistakes that you made and like, ooh, just not knowing. Cause I know where I'm from. I wasn't taught how to save. I wasn't taught. Um, like my dad taught us not to overspend. Like if, if you're going to give somebody something, don't expect it back.

Just give what you can give. If you, if you can't give it without expecting it back, you don't have enough. You ain't got it. Yeah. And he would always say, I'm like, daddy, I need this. He's like, I ain't got it. But if he didn't have say, I'm like, daddy, I need this. He's like, I ain't got it. I ain't got it. But if he didn't have it, but he still

had a lot of money in the bank, but he had a bottom line. And that was one thing he did teach me, the bottom line. But when it came to learning how to save, I didn't know how to do that. I didn't know how to budget. So what are some of the mistakes that you made once you really started, or were you already ready once you started making a lot of money?

So similar, but my mom is a big saver. So I didn't know how to save. So I do have a lot saved. Yeah. But that's the problem. It's time to make my money, start making money for me. Yes. Especially because of the way this industry is.

Oh, gosh. After that strike, I said, ha ha. What you're not going to do is never catch me slipping. Joke's on you. Right. It will not be on me. Yes. So now that's what I'm trying to figure out as well, too. What does it look like to really start to build wealth?

Yeah. I think I've been playing chess. It's time to start playing chess. I've got to really. And I would say a mistake I made was taking the LMA with my portfolio. I was mistaken. Yeah. I was mistaken.

It feels like I should have done that. I should have done that. Because it eats away at all the money that the accounts are making in the market. And I'm like, because the interest rate on it is insane. It was low when I got it, but they didn't tell me that, oh, hey, this is a variable interest rate that could change.

Not a fixed. Yeah. Wow. And so they still haven't lowered the interest rates and I'm still having been able to lock one in. Right. Because I also invested during a bear market.

So right. And then now it's like Because I also invested during a bear market. Mm-hmm. So. Right. And then now it's like a, it was a bull market for a while. Right now, I don't know what it is. Yeah, yeah. I am, one of the investments that I made early on when we started making, it's funny,

because Deuce, our first AD, for the first few seasons we shot, he called me season one and he goes, you need a financial advisor. And I was like, okay, yeah, I do. Like, you know, somebody, he's like, I got somebody, I'm going to send it to you. He said, because you're about to start making more money than you used to. He said, so I want you to make sure that you steward over it properly. And I was like, thank you. Shout out dudes for

that. You know, just always looking out good people, you know. And so I met with the guy. And then he actually introduced me to Alicia. That guy did. So it's like just, I just kept meeting good people. And I remember it was this kid that I grew up with, his family had left him a farm. Yes. And he started growing cannabis on it. And this is like cannabis, it was booming.

I was like, yo, I was like, this is built right in my hometown. We can create jobs with this. I was like, I'll put $100,000 in it. And he was like, OK, great. The return was supposed to be I could either get equity in the company, or within the next two years, I could get my money back with interest added onto it. So I would make a profit.

And we agreed that we would do the profit part. I mean, get my money back with the profit on top for interest. Give me money. I ain't got a dime. Do you hear me? When I tell you, I felt, I mean, this is a part of investing. And you have contracts. And you, like, West knows.

Like, he did business with him, too. And I will find you. I will hunt you down. Wait, wait, wait. You're not telling me. What happened? Wait, what happened? Honey, this man done went and spent the money on his wedding.

Yes, flexing. It was crazy. And then I had my dad call his aunt because she worked with him as well. And he kept telling me, I'm going to send you like 70 something thousand now. I'm going to go ahead and send you like a portion of it. I was like, okay. And then he's like, the wires should be hitting anytime now. My aunt just went to the bank.

He forgot Martin's a small town. I said, daddy, you know, so-and-so's aunt. He's like, yeah. He said, I'm doing some work on her house. I said, give me her number. I called her. She said, I have no idea what you're talking about. Just like, girl, like, want to take this this is I was so excited about this investment thinking like it's

about to be something really big. And it when when that's one of your first investments and you're just starting to really make money, but you want to like this is something I saw the return on it. I'm like, people are making a lot of money. If I get in it early, like this could be something great. And we're giving back to my hometown community. It was one of those things that kind of scared me and I was afraid to invest in people and their businesses for a while. And I did it. I just when we were talking about it, I hadn't thought about that in a while.

I want my money back. Now man. Like I had a fellow, the guy was dating at the time and he was just sitting us in circles. But that was like, that was, I mean it was a mistake that I made. Why do you think it was a mistake? It wasn't a mistake, it was just a bad investment. Yeah, he just wasn't an integral person. See that's why I'm slow to do stuff. Yeah. I think that's why it's hard for me to like even do business with people.

Like, let's do this together because I just don't know how you're going to act. You know, like I got good people around me now where I trust them. Like me and Wes got, we go back years. Like when I had nothing, we both was struggling, you know. So that's somebody that I know like if we did business together, he's not going to like screw me over, you know. So that's somebody that I know, like, if we did business together, he's not gonna like screw me over, you know. But it's hard. That's always in the back of my mind. I read literally yesterday asking chat GPT,

is it legal to do a mental health screening before hiring someone? It needs to be legal. No, because people be pre-hospital dealing with you. No, seriously. And I don't know, I don't know what you want me to do because I'm human too. I make mistakes too. I'm dealing with things too. And I just, it's tough. It is so tough. Because you be trying to help people, trying to put people on, trying to work with people. Yeah. But that's the other thing that I think part of the reason why I haven't done as much investing too is because I'll see something about somebody, but then I'd be still trying to make it work.

It's a lack of trust in myself too. Yes, I know exactly what you mean. Yeah, yeah. I'd be feeling like a bad person because they're so nice, but I'm like, I can just, I can tell. Yeah, something like that. This ain't it. Yes, you gotta trust that. You do. You have to trust it. God has given us that. That's that spirit of discernment that he has blessed us with. And I'm telling you, there's been so many times, just like you, where I've ignored it and it can't abide me in the butt every single time. Every single time. Yeah. That's like, now, like for me,

say things are like real estate. Like I'll buy a house in a heartbeat, you know, any type of property, I'll do that. It's just, that's a safer, low risk investment for me that I know I can control, you know, I have a little more control over it. But when it comes to investing in people and really taking a risk with other people, that really damaged me. It really did. Yeah. That's something I was thinking too about a relationship.

I was like, because I saw this one woman talking about how God wanted to heal her disappointment. Because she realized that if God were to heal her disappointment because she realized that if God were to send the right person in her life, she would still see life through the lens of disappointment. Yeah. And would you even be able to open up to him and trust him? I'm like, because out of all the videos that got suggested to me that day, that one did. And I was like, oh, that's good. He's healed me from disappointment. Healed me from the disappointment and the lack of trust. Because if it's a good dude, he going to sabotage it. I don't even think it's, I think that's part of it.

But I think it'll be more so like, the only people, like if I'm a boundary person, you know me. I'm a boundary person. I'm kind of guarded up. I'm like, tch tch tch tch tch. But like, you can still see it's like, mm. Yeah. You know. You're a decent human being. I'm like, but like you can still see it's like, yeah, you know,

you're a decent human being. So you're not going to try to climb over those boundaries. Right. So if he's a decent person, he's going to be like, I like her, but I don't think she's I wouldn't even he wouldn't even feel like he had the opportunity to be like, hey, so. Yes. But somebody who is a narcissist would be like, I can break down those bones. You know what I'm saying? But is he a narcissist or somebody that like really likes you and is not going to give up? I think that a good man will be in proximity and will be it's kind of like when people rescue dogs. Yeah. They just sit, they'll sit there for an hour until the dog comes to them.

But human beings don't have that type of time. If he's also a good man, he would have to really hear from God. Just wait for a second. And not too many people gonna hear God that clearly and be that obedient. I'm not saying it's impossible., but why should he have to go through all that? Let me do my healing. I'm not a rescue German shepherd. I need to continue to work on myself, but I just think, and it doesn't make them a bad person. Some of them people who are super overzealous

and go try to pet a rescue, they get bit. Now you mad at the rescue, and then the dog gotta get put down. And it's like, read the room. Yes. You know what I mean? But people can't read. People can't read.

People can't read. People are socially illiterate. Literally, yes. That is funny. When you think about your legacy and your future, what is something that you want to leave behind that's impactful to other people? I haven't been asked that in such a long time. Really? Yeah. So it's like, gosh, I want to be concise.

I want to have a left of mark, especially with storytelling, that will make people feel less alone, will guide people to the one who created them and have empowered them to operate in their gift and their purpose so that they can do the exact same thing. Like that ripple effect of, a candle doesn't lose fire when it lights another candle. So I wanna light other people's candles. I want people to see my stories and feel like,

all right, I can go, I can take on the world. I can take on this classroom. I can take on this disease. I can take on this classroom. I can take on this disease. I can take on this research project. And people are walking in their gift and operating in their gift. And they know who they belong to and who they are. And they feel empowered and they love themselves

because of the work that I've done. And right now in this moment, I'm like, I got a lot of work to do. We all do. No, and when you answer that question, you do think like, oh wait, there's more I gotta do. On the same way. The disappointment and the trauma

and it's the trying and being pushed back down. I don't know when you got Fatima, maybe season two at least. Because season one you were reoccurring. Yeah, mm-hmm. Season two when you saw that he was like, all right, he's giving you a shot. Yeah. I don't know about you,

but when Raven called me and told me I got the role, I enjoyed it for like 62 seconds. And then I felt something in my spirit say, now the real work begins. Yes, oh, for sure. I went straight back to studying, school, like I gotta get this, I can't mess this up. It was real work. Just even just starting stuff like starting your podcast

I'm sure like getting other deals doing like the amount of work we still have to do even though we're series regulars on a hit show like it's it it's almost harder because it's the mental warfare of, what am I doing? Like, what is the problem? Like, it's- Oh my gosh, man, yeah. It's a lot. I was just telling my friend driving here today,

and she was like, what are you doing? I said, I'm headed to the office. I've been filming episodes all week. And she goes, oh, and she was like, she said, you've been busy. I was like, yeah, I went straight from filming, straight to BT Awards, straight to ABFF, home to work. I said, even when I'm off work, I'm working, you know, it doesn't stop. And we we've built these brands, we've

been blessed with the platform to be able to build brands off of it. So that when say, whenever sisters may be done, you know, then we're like, okay, I've built enough that I'm okay, you know, we're not like, oh, gosh, like, what am I gonna do now? You know? But it's a thing like, and, I've built enough that I'm okay. You know, we're not like, oh gosh, like what am I going to do now? You know? But it's a thing like, people think it's, we make it look so easy. It's not, it's-

Especially you. You make it look like warm butter on warm toast. Oh. Oh. Warm butter on warm toast. Smooth, baby. My team probably say different. Oh, I know she keep y'all running cuz she ain't stopped. It don't stop

Yeah, that's what a human is trying to always say the crystal will outwork you if you let her like I'm right there with I'm like, let's go. What we doing? I don't care what it is. We're packing up. They like sit down Just give her an Alani honey, and I'm good to go. I'm charged. Alani. Go ahead and send them money. Cut the check, Alani. They send in boxes, but go ahead and send a check, please.

Thank you. Cut the check. No, seriously, no, I'm so grateful for them because when God does bless you with ideas and you want to be creative, the team is what helps push it. You know, like I could not do this without them. So that's the warm butter on the bread because I couldn't do without them. See, that's the I think that's the warfare to it's like relationships.

Yes. You know, I mean, we're two or more gathered. Yep. And that's why I feel like that's sometimes why it's hard is like just finding the good people, the people that you don't feel like you need a mental health screening for. Like, and I feel like that's been my struggle and that's been the warfare for me. It's like, Oh God, can I just give me one Lord. Yes.

One. Yeah. No, it's beautiful. I'm glad you have that. And then everybody just loves the Lord. You know, so like we're all like, you did two or three prayers before we started. Okay. We should be. And I just got JB during BT awards when you came to BT House.

Yeah. And I was when we exchanged numbers, I was going to be psycho and put Chris Ronette Hazel, you're stuck with me as my contact name, because I was like, you have to come work with us. Like, yeah, there's where we're going. Where are you? Where are you? You thought she was going? No, you're stuck with us. Yeah.

But I felt it. Like you feel it instantly and it's hard to find good people, especially in this day and age, but in this industry as well because everybody has ulterior motives. It's just like who is just loves what they do. They're passionate. They're here to like just push the dream, you know, it's a lot. But yeah, I think it's also a passion.

So that's probably why it looks like it looks easy. I just I love it. I love it. Yeah. I can tell. Thank you. So I want to talk about orbital tribe. Yeah. Let's talk about how did you even come up with the name? Well, saying like I've always felt like I've kind of been my own orbit, like feeling like that crazy professor with the mustard stain dropping papers that nobody listens to.

I've always just kind of been different and walked to the beat of my own drum, like in my own family has been very, you know, like just different, you know, and thank God for the Bible, because without the Bible, I would not be able to make peace with just kind of being vulnerable here, not really having a sense of belonging. Wow. And so the orbital tribe was really kind of for those people that God has kind of called out, was really kind of for those people that God has kind of called out, even amongst the people he's called out and say like, hey, you might not get there the traditional way. People

might not always see you, but you can get there, which is my story for this show. And that's what I love about Tyler. Like he will, he don't mind a diamond in the rough, baby. He does not. He said, we're going to get this thing right, make it shine. He is, I was going through so much. Remember I had the whole like breast cancer callback while we were filming and we had a scene the day before I had to go in for my appointment.

And I was just, my brain was just like all over the place. And I was just like, and you were looking at me and I was like, where are we? Like I could not track. And usually like I have a photographic memory. I can like see it on the pages. So like, oh, I know where we are, got it. Like one line, got it.

That day I could not and I left and I was like, oh my God, I hope Mignon does not hate me. She probably like, girl, come on. Cause you had a crazy few days in your house and it was a lot of content. So I always like to come in. Like, when I'm coming, I'm helping. I'm your wing girl, you know?

And I just like, I feel like I let you down on that day. And remember, I hit you and I texted you. And you were like, no. No, because like, I felt like because, especially my storyline, I was like, there's got to be some grace. Because the day before, you were at the townhouse all day. All day long, yeah. We all have our days.

You were at the townhouse all day. And then the scene we shot was, it wasn't scene, it was scenes. Yeah. Wasn't it 20 pages? 20 pages, y'all. It was crazy. It was like boom, boom, boom, boom.

So I did not, like me personally, I was like, I expected you to be like. Because we are like, what you supposed to do? Yeah. You know what I mean? What are you supposed to do? Like what? Like you had the townhouse.

When I saw the townhouse block, I was like, hmm. I was crazy. Yeah, it was a lie. Yeah, not at all. Thank you. Because you'll be told I was like, Yeah, it was a lot. Yeah. Not at all. Thank you. Because truth be told, I was like, is it me? It was not you. It was definitely me. It's not you. It's me.

I do that all the time. I'll be calling line. It will be other people's line. I was like, oh, my bad. Sorry, y'all. Listen, and I feel so good with me. Oh, that was your line. OK, thank God. I've been feeling like, dang, I could've got away with it if I hadn't called line. Cause now I'm gonna need it

when we get to this next one. Line? It could be anybody. I say it all the time. Brian will laugh because I'll be like, it could be anything. This could be anything. Literally anything.

I'm so happy we're getting to work together now. Yeah. Yeah. They want it. Hopefully. We got 11. Yeah. Sunny days. Yes. Love that. And there's so many people that Hollywood has overlooked that Tyler has given a chance and changed their life completely. Changed their family's life. Generations. Yeah. And that's what he does. So grateful for him. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, that's what the Orpah Tribe is. We're filming season two right now, too.

That's what I'm gonna ask you, okay, perfect. So we'll make sure you guys tap in, subscribe, so you can follow along with the Orpah Tribe. I love that. I'm so proud of you, Ming. Thank you, Chris, I'm proud of you. Thank you. I'm proud of you.

I'm glad we finally got to do this. Me too. This was like so relaxing. Like it's trying to look like it's trying to rain again. It's like 40 days and 40 nights here in Atlanta. I don't know what's going on. Yeah, I can roll up on this little rug. Don't bother me, it's cozy here.

Thank you. Thank you so much. All right, let the people know where they can follow you, your YouTube, your Instagram, all the things we want to support you in any way we can. If there's anything else that you have going on that you can share, we would love it. Yeah, from what I can share, the season two of The Orbital Tribe, we are filming right now, so it's dropping soon. Scam.

Yeah, so The Orbital Tribe is on YouTube. It is on, you can follow our Instagram page. The Orbital Tribe is on Spotify, I Heart, Apple, of course. I think Amazon, isn't that what you're into? Anywhere? You listen to your podcast. Anywhere you listen to your podcast. Yeah, and then share it, refer it to people if it helps you.

And then of course you can follow me at Mignon, M-I-G-N-O-N, underscore F-O-F on Instagram. What's F-O-F? I was wondering what it is. It's just initials. Oh, OK. Yeah.

Got it. OK. I was like, F-O-F. They wouldn't give me Minyon. Are you seeking somebody already had it? Somebody already has it, but they don't post. But Instagram said that they were active. And I was like,

they're not active or it's a, it's their Finsta. Yeah, that's the thing. Just give it to me. Like, I'll give you a mignon. If you give me a mignon, yeah, just give it to me. You can still keep this one. That's so funny. I love it. Thank you so much.

Thank you. Tap in with my girl, Ming Ming and we will see you soon. Thank you for having me. Getting into today's fit. Today I am wearing a cream Louis Vuitton matching set. Absolutely love this outfit. It's super comfortable. Today we were just all the things. Keeping it simple with the jewelry today, I'm wearing Bottega Veneta earrings and my Van Cleef bracelet. Sweeties, I hope y'all enjoyed this conversation as much as I did. Look, remember, keep company only with those who uplift

you and whose presence calls forth your best. Until next time, keep it positive, sweeties. Love y'all.