Keep it Positive, Sweetie - The Reality of Reality w/ Kandi Burruss

Episode Date: September 28, 2025

Sweeties, Season 9 is coming in hot! This week, we sit down with the one and only Kandi Burruss for a conversation that’s equal parts unfiltered, funny, and inspiring. From growing up in "the real Atlanta" to navigating surrogacy, Kandi gets candid about motherhood, faith, and the lessons she’s still learning while being a successful entrepreneur. She shares her very first emotional day filming RHOA and why she’s unapologetically “a what comes up, comes out” kind of person.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Calling all my sweeties to the forefront. I'm your host, Chris Renee Hazel, and this is the Keep It Positive Sweetie Show. Hey, sweeties, welcome back. I know it's been a few weeks since we've seen each other, but have no fear, because Keep It Positive, Sweetie, is here. Today's guest needs no introduction, but you know I'm going to give you one anyway. She is Atlanta through and through. She is a wife, mom, singer, actress, producer, and a Grammy Award-winning songwriter. You met her through her group Escape, and you got to know her really well on the Real Housewives of Atlanta.

Sweeties, please give a very warm welcome to Candy Burr's. Candy, what's going on, girl? You're here. Finally. But we've been trying to get you on this podcast for since February. When we go? We were in, um, fashion week. Was that February?

I don't even remember. Yeah, we've been talking about it. Yeah, we've been talking about it for a minute. For a while. So we're finally here. So we're so excited to have. you. Thanks for you.

How you feeling? You're welcome. I feel good. Good. Good. So a lot of people, we know your accolades. Everyone's been a fan of yours since Escape. Tell us a little bit more about you, candy birds and your upbringing, that we may not know.

Oh, I don't know. It's like, I feel like at this point, people know so much about me. Yeah. How does it feel like to feel like everybody knows so much? Sometimes it's weird. Yeah. I mean, it's cool, you know. I mean, I'm just thankful to be able to, you know, be in a space where, you know, people do know me.

Yes. You know what I mean? Because I think a lot of people take that for granted. I feel like at one point in my younger years, who you know, even, you know, in my group or whatever at one point, we probably took it for granted. And, you know, I had to learn, like, that's not just a giving. That's real. Just because you've done something before, it doesn't mean that people are going to keep caring. So I'm just kind of, like, thankful for it this.

Yeah. But, I mean, as far as my background, I am from Atlanta. Are you from real Atlanta? Because you know what I was saying? That's not Atlanta. Which Atlanta are you from? It's like, are you talking about where I was born or where I was raised? I was born at Crockett Long, okay?

And that was on P. Street. They changed the name. Okay. But yes, I was born here in Atlanta. I was raised off Washington Road in East Point. So I guess that's what they're saying. People from downtown Atlanta, they love to be talking about what's not real Atlanta. I got 100 cousins.

I was staying in Atlanta every day. You know, I'm from Atlanta. Stop playing with me. Right, right. But yeah, my mom is the youngest of 14 kids. Wow. Yes. And so I have like over 80-something first because.

not to mention second and third cousins. And we, a lot of us are like close. We all love that. Yeah, like sisters and brothers. So, and then my dad's family, you know, he's, he was the youngest of three kids, but I don't have many cousins on my dad's side. I just have four. Okay.

Oh, that side. That's a big difference. And yeah, and my granddad was a bishop here in Atlanta. So, yeah, Bethlehem Church of God Holiness, Martin Luther King. So, you know, both sides are very different. Yeah. So I guess I had a very, you know, wide range of influence. Yes, I can imagine.

That's crazy. I didn't know Mama Joyce was one of 14. Do you have any siblings? My brother passed away when I was. When I was young, when I was 15, my brother Patrick. And his name was Patrick Riley, and that's why Riley's name is right. Okay. I love that.

And then I do have a sister, you know, through my dad. Got it. Okay. Got it. Okay, yeah, I have all my siblings. We have different mothers. So, like, we were all raised. It's kind of similar.

Everybody was raised in different homes. But it's awesome to see how as we grow up, we grow closer. How many? Four. So four of us total. Oh, okay, cool. Yes, I'm one of four, the second oldest. Yeah, I love that.

So you've, oh my goodness, you've done so many things from singing to now you're producing, you're a mother, all the things. You had Riley and Ace, and then Blaze Tucker, Blaise. And my bonus daughter, Kayla, shout out to Kay. Who? My bonus daughter, Kayla. Oh, yes, and Kayla, yes. You had Blaze through surrogacy, and that was a decision that you made after struggling with fibroids.

Yes. Can you walk me through that journey? Because I opened up to you, I was recently on your podcast, and I talked about me finally going to the fertility doctor and the options that I have, and that's one of the options. So what is it like and what was it like coming to that moment where this may be my reality that I'm not going to be able to carry like I have? Okay. Well, for A. Sanblaze, I had to do IVF.

Okay. So I had a lot of fibroid issues, multiple fibroid surgery. throughout my 30s. Wow. And so even to get pregnant with A's, I had to do IVF. And with that, I know a lot of people's journey is different with IVF. You know, I don't know if a lot of y'all who haven't experienced that it's not guaranteed that you're going to have a child just because you go through IVF, you know. Yeah.

They say the best method to do is you put the egg in the sperm together to make an embryo. Okay. And that's just basic one-on-one. Some people just freeze their eggs. Right. Other people have, you know, go through the process of getting embryos. So we had, with what we were possibly able to have, we went from what was 12 dropped down to six embryos. And then after testing them to make sure that they were good, we only have four.

So we put two in with ACE Only one made it But then I had a high-risk pregnancy And that's just basically because of I guess the multiple surgeries Okay You know, I had bleeding during the pregnancy or whatever That's got to be scary

Yeah, it was scary But luckily, you know We got ACE, he was healthy And so we still had two That were frozen Right Okay And the best option

You know, after a while you know, we were trying to figure out, okay, are we going to use our embryos or not? You know what I mean? And we didn't want to not, you know, use it. Right, yeah. So we had to figure out the best way to make sure that she was going to make it here. So we had to, and that's when I talked to Dr. Jackie, and she helped me find a surrogate. Wow.

And when it comes to that, I know it's got to be a difficult process choosing a person that's going to carry your seed. Yeah. Like, what was that like? It was, they say it would be very, very difficult for a lot of people. What I will say, I'm thankful for Dr. Jackie because she knew, shout out to Shadena, my surrogate, I guess when she was carrying for a number. other family before me and Dr. Jackie was the doctor. Oh, perfect. So originally I was just meeting with her to talk about it to see, you know, so she can

give me the how it works and all of that stuff. But then as we were having the conversation, obviously I was like, well, is she doing? Yeah. You know, because I was kind of told that it's, you know, it's best to, you know, have a surrogate who has done it already one time. Got it. And I don't know how true that is for others, but for me, it worked out amazing because she had, she was like, Shadena was so knowledgeable.

She had so much knowledgeable on the, she was on the process. She encouraged us to have a group text with her. So she would always be updating us. And, you know, it just made it a lot easier for me because she had already been there, done that, and kind of could help us in a way. way to where things may have felt awkward for some people who didn't feel as awkward. Got it. You know what I mean? So she made us feel very comfortable in the situation, and I was very appreciative of

that. But yeah, I had the perfect situation because my doctor had already been her doctor before, so she already knew that she's going to, you know, make sure. the baby's healthy, you know, eat the right things, do the right things, go to the appointments, do all of those things. Right. You know. That is she come and live with you? Because I know some surrogates, like, the parents want, like, I want you in my house. No, no, no, no, I'm not, I'm not that person. I'm not that person. So for me, she, she, she has kids of her own. Okay. You know, so she had, you know, lived in her own house.

I did go visit her home. Okay, good. Yeah, to see living conditions. and all the things? Yes. You know, so, and it's so crazy. So even the attorney that we use. So in Georgia, every place has its own laws. Oh, wow. Oh, yeah, every state, yeah, for sure.

Yeah. I've heard California is a little different. Yes. But the lawyer that I used, she had, she's also an agency. Okay. So the firm, you know, her firm. Yeah. So she knew inside and out the things that we need to do, the questions we need to ask.

You know, you have to go through counseling together and separately. With the mother. Yeah, the surrogate. Oh, my goodness. This is good. Yeah, we did all of that. I love this. Okay.

And then when she gave us this questionnaire, it was questions I wouldn't even have thought to ask. Right. You know? Yeah. So it was a very interesting experience, but I'm grateful for it and grateful that I had the right people to come into my life to help the process go smoother. Right. And then just even like the paperwork that you have to do prior to first of all, getting started and to end for when the baby gets here because obviously you want your name on the birth certificate with your child. Right.

And all of those things. Yeah. So I would suggest if you're going to do it, you know, try not to be, you know, trying to be cheap and skip around and not get the right people to help you. Speaking of being cheap, like how much does it cost to do something like this for people who may be thinking about it? Well, the cost of surrogacy is different or, you know, different people. Okay. Um, depending on the surrogate, depending on if you go through an agency, um, you know, for the, the surrogate themselves.

Yeah. You know, so their fee may vary. Okay. I mean, I know people that's like anywhere from 40 to a hundred, depending on, and I've heard some people who go as low as 25. I know some people that went to another country to do it. Wow. They didn't have to pay much at all. But that's when you kind of run into other issues, like, you know, trying to make sure that your name is on the birth.

If you are not, you have to please get an attorney to do your paperwork. Because what if the Sarah, like, tries to keep your child? Well, I have that experience, and I don't know anybody that has that experience. But I do know somebody who, you know, didn't. get the right forms that they need. So now it's making it harder for them to get other documents that they need here. So they got to go back to get all that stuff. Yeah. So it's just kind of like I would at least make sure that I have an attorney that's going through it to be like, make sure you have this, make sure you have that, you know, make sure this form is signed, you know, all of

these things because, you know, it's a whole checklist of stuff. I can imagine. I'm seeing, yeah. And, you know, this is your baby. And especially in this world where, you know, the government is acting up with making sure citizenship is right. Right. And you know what I mean? But so, you know, I do tell people the attorney. Okay. Because, you know, they can, well, especially you in Georgia, if you want to, I will give you the information.

Okay. Thank you. Because she was just so thorough in giving you, like even if you just go for that initial consultation meeting to see if you want to use them for the whole process. Right. Because it's too much. You know what I mean? Yeah.

And then even now, like I'm like, even with Blaze, sometimes she was like, is that how it was when I was in your belly? And I keep trying to explain to her, I had to borrow somebody's bait. belly place. Because my belly wasn't working right. That's what I'm trying to tell her. But it's like I'm trying to figure out how to explain. Yes.

You know. Wow. To her the process. But the other day, it was so cool. I had ran into a friend of a friend. And she was like, Candy, I don't know if you remember having this conversation with me. She was like, but some years ago, she was like, I was considering doing IVF because I was having some issues.

And she was like, and you were like, no, you should do it. And she was like, and you gave me so much encouragement and, you know, told me what to do. And she was like, but that is my son right there. And her son was playing with my son. Wow. And I was like, that is so crazy. They don't even know their connection. You know what I mean?

And to see both of them healthy, playing, running around. and, you know, and knowing that, you know, my circumstance was at once her circumstance and my circumstance helped her. Right. To make that choice. Yeah. It was so cool to me. That's the, I love that.

I love that. Now, I hear so many different stories about the injections and the toll that it takes on your body. Did you have any side effects or was it just easy, breezy for you? It wasn't easy. Giving yourself those injections. Yeah. I'm one of those.

I have a high tolerance for pain. Okay. But I will say that's last shot you got to give, the trigger shot or whatever they call it, when it's time to the appointment that they have to actually take the eggs out. The eggs here. That one, it was painful. Like a burn or just the size of the either? I can't even remember how to describe it, really.

I just remember, you know, the other shots was just kind of like. Like, you know, you can, you know, do it in your belly or whatever. You know, in a certain time of day, you want to do it every day and follow the rules and all that was cool. But that last shot, oh, Lord. And then for me, I don't, every doctor is different than what they tell you to do. But my IVF facility, they still wanted me to, want to, once, they implanted the embryos still do the shots

for like another how much longer I did it another couple months Yes because they said that was it estrogen I don't know whatever it was that they were giving me they said you know because some people once it's implanted they still lose

unfortunately they said for For them, it gave them a higher success rate of the embryo implanting. Okay. And, you know, attaching how it's supposed to. Yeah. Okay. Wow.

I can't remember what it was exactly that I was still having to take it. My jaw, ACE is nine and a half now, so this was a long time ago. Yeah. Times of change. Isn't it crazy how, like, you can go have a surgery or procedure done? And then years later, they come out with a much easier way where, like, you got to take one shot, and you're like, I had to take 50. Yeah, no, I was taking them for a couple

more months just to make sure that the embryos stayed and was locked in. Yeah. So, yeah, it was not the easiest but so worth it. Good, because a lot of people don't talk about that part

of it, because people are like, oh yeah, go do it. And then, like, wait, you didn't tell me about this part. And that's probably been my hesitancy, honestly, it's like what the, the that it takes on your body, and do I have the time with our schedules, like, to really take the time to do that? Right. Were you able to continue to work and, like, travel and do everything?

Or did you have to take some time off? Um, well, I was still able to work. I was still filming that season that I was pregnant with Ace. I remember I was filming. Okay. But yeah, I was able to work.

Okay. It's just, you know, you just make sure you're doing it at a third time every day and doing what you're supposed to do. Okay. And with blaze, with a surrogate, obviously. Yeah, you were able to do, yeah. I was all over the place. Right. You know what I mean? And I felt guilty in a way because you like, you know, you know, it's like, I'm sorry.

Yeah. Like, you know, what am I supposed to? You got it. You got it, right? Right. I don't know. It's like, it almost, it's so great. I hate to even say this out loud.

But having a surrogate, I felt like, is this what it's like to be the daddy? No, that's a... Because you know... Yeah. I don't know you're how stupid. No, but that's a really good comparison. When moms, you know, we had the... Our bodies changing, dealing with all these emotions and hormones.

You know, we're trying to eat right. We're trying to make sure we do everything we can't perfectly to make sure we incubate. Mm-hmm. Right? Yes. And make sure to make sure to make... becomes out the way he needs to me. I mean heart burn.

Like that heart, I didn't even know what heartburn was until I was pregnant with AIDS. Like, now my job, Riley got a lot of hair. A lot of hair. But when she was born, she did not have a lot of hair. Okay. But Ace did.

And that rumor that they say about babies when they got a lot of hair, they come out with a lot of hair, that you got heartburn during pregnancy. That must be true. Because you had it. Wow. What? Oh, my. My gosh, I was like, I can't even lay down. Like, what is happening to me?

Yeah. But with Blaze, you know, having a surrogate, she was telling me all about her heartburn. And I was like, oh, I'm so sorry. At least you can relate. You're like, I know what you're going through. I know what she was going through. But, you know, I still was able to go do it and everything I needed to do. And it's almost a little bit of guilt there.

Yeah. Because, you know, you feel like, you know, there's. a reason that I had to get a surrogate, but it's almost like, wow, this is, this is the move. Right. Like, it wasn't intentional. Right. Yeah, no, for sure, for sure. When you speak on Mom Guild, you are, you're a mogul. You're all, you're traveling all of the world. You're handling so many different business ventures. Do you deal with Mom Guild now, like having to travel all the time? And how do you

handle that? Of course. I feel like, every mother that I know. know that has a career yeah feels guilt every last one of them and you know sometimes we overcompensate in the way that gifts we buy them the things that we do because you know we want them to realize this is a reason this is why I had to be here you let to make money so you can do this right but um it's all I don't think that ever goes away yeah you know no for sure um No, just be honest, I don't watch Real Housewives of Atlanta. Did you, like, bring your children onto the show?

Like, were they, like, do you open up everything to the show, or did you keep your children off? Oh, my children was on. They were on there. Oh, okay. And now Riley are you on her own. Yes, Rob. I saw that they got a next generation or something. Next gen, NYD.

Yeah. That's crazy. How was that going for her? I mean, that's going good, you know. I think it was different for her Like she didn't know all the work that it goes into shoot Right, because for you, she just show up. Yeah, she just show up a couple times and, you know,

but she didn't realize like, you know, they want you to be there every day and then they give you last minute schedules. It's a lot, you know, and so, and then, you know, all the emotional rollercoaster she was going on, going back or forth with the different people on the show. calling me, mommy, like you said, you know, and it's like, oh, my gosh.

What advice did you give her to help navigate those? Just right off rip, I just told my daughter, look, be yourself. Don't, you know, whatever you say, stand on it. Yeah. Don't take it back. You know, you can apologize if you, you know, think later on and maybe you didn't do the right thing, but don't be on there acting like you said something, didn't say something that you said. You know, we, you know, we are known.

for being truthful people, and you ain't going to change that. I know that's right. You know what I'm saying? So I always be a person of your word. So even if people don't like what you do, they know that, you know, you'd be like, hey, I meant what I said when I said it. And I'm standing on it, you know what I mean? I said, and if you do anything that's wrong, you know, it's okay.

You'll live to see another day and your mama always got your bank. I know that's right. I love that. When it came to you saying yes to Real Housewives of Atlanta, A hundred years ago. Right. You were like the longest one. Yeah, you were the longest housewife, longest running.

That's amazing. 14 seasons straight. That is incredible. But you mentioned that like after the first season, you realized math ain't math and I got to do some other things. What was that thing that clicked where you like, wait a minute? And what did you think you were going to make like when you first started? What did I think?

What? Like monetarily thinking like you're going on this show. You're open to something to your life. Really? Yeah. What made you say yes? One of my friends, was it Rashida? I know.

One of my friends was like, girl, just go ahead and do it. You haven't know what's going to come from it. Because I was like, this ain't no money. Right. I've seen money. You're like, this ain't no money. What I'm going to do with this? And then, honestly, I didn't really think that it was going to change my life like that.

Right. Because, you know, I have been in a group. Right. Your candy, yeah. We had done stuff before. So I was just like, yeah, whatever, you know, whatever. I had watched the first season. I thought it was funny,

but I didn't really see myself being with those ladies. Right. You know what I mean? Nothing against them. I just didn't see how we would be hanging out. Right. Right. I feel, yeah.

So I was like, I don't know about this. Right. But, you know, I was like, okay, well, I'll do it for a year. It might be a right, you know. Yeah. Because they really weren't talking about no money. Right. It wasn't no money.

Mm-hmm. But then, man, I just. I just thought it would be something cool to do. Yeah. You know, and next thing I know, first day of taping, I remember, it got real for me, day one. What happened? They did a scene with me and my mama. She said, me and my mama.

And she had me crying. The first day. Like you had me crying. I didn't like me. Oh, yeah. I didn't mean to do it. No, I know. But I was not expecting that.

Like, I was like, God, leave. They let you break in first. Right. Right. But, yeah, and the rest was history. Wow. Speaking of that moment with your mom, was there any moments that were therapeutic for you guys in the show or anything that kind of came up that you hadn't resolved? We've had so many moments over those 14 seasons. And then we had multiple, you know, specials and spinoffs or whatever. Now, I did watch your show at the restaurant.

that was funny. Oh, look at your candy in the game. So funny. Yeah, it was hilarious. It was fun to do too. Yeah. But, I mean, I definitely would say, yeah, I guess it would be therapeutic. And then, you know, it was a lot of wonderful moments, you know, with my kids that I can look back.

And it's like our own little diary when you go back and see parts of our lives, my kids can see themselves grow up. You know what I mean? Yeah. The only thing I find, I'm not. Like, wow, now that I left, like, Blaze is not going to have the same experience as Riley. Right. You know what I mean? Yeah.

But because, you know, her life is not going to be just all in front of the camera like that. Yeah. It's interesting. Yeah. But it's cool, though. You know, I felt like my family had their time to, you know, that I was able to share them with the world. my aunts, you know, my cousins on there. Yeah.

You know, I met Todd on there. You know, you saw the process of me trying to get pregnant, having my kids. So many things. Yeah. Was there ever any moments where you were like, I regret opening up about that, where you look back or where you kind of were at home like, why did I let them into this part of my life? I'm kind of an open book.

So it's not I don't really have a lot of regrets Now I'm always saying something that I probably shouldn't say And later on And it'd be my mom to be like Did you have to tell everybody that you blah blah blah And I'm like well I mean

It is what it is Right But so I don't really Look at anything as a regret you know yeah i love that you know and then like some things you know are put on you you know you didn't

you don't have to it wasn't anything you did to put it out there when you're on reality tv especially you know with ensemble cast people be coming at you left and right with all kinds of crazy i can imagine so it's not like you always have a choice in the matter right right yeah you don't know what somebody gonna hit you with You'd be like, wait a minute now. Hold on. Right. Now, you say you've always been an open book.

So when you got on the show, did you go into it with the mindset of, I'm just going to be real? Because you're really authentic in your true self. Was that something or did you kind of start letting your wall down as the seasons progressed? I didn't overthink it. Okay. I think that's what I don't like about reality TV now is that everybody go into everything. It's my brand. Oh, I got to worry about my brand.

This is my brand. And sometimes, to me, it makes them fake. You know what I mean? And I don't like that. You know, I'm just like, half the time when, like, I tell people all the time, these girls be having rehearsed reads and stuff like that. For reality TV? Yes.

And it'd be so obvious. But to me, it'd be obvious. I guess it's not. Because you're a real actor as well. You're like, we've got to do that for this. I know when you do. I know when you practice. Right.

Yeah. But for me, it's like I'm a what comes up, comes out type of person. Yeah. So it's just like. you hit me with something. You're going to catch whatever I was thinking at that moment. Right, right. Unfiltered out.

And I feel like it's better for me to roll in there. You know what I mean? So where it's not like, overthinking, it just stresses me up. Yeah, I can imagine that. Speaking of like opening up to things, you've been very open about being sex positive and just very open about your sexuality. She said it's so sweet. Sex-positive.

Now, when I was on your podcast, I opened up about me of staining from sex, and you were like flabbergast. You were like, what? How long since? Because what? I mean, I was flabbergasted by the part of you saying that you started having sex with the man, and then just out the blue you just told him, yeah, I just thought about it. I'm just not having sex. It wasn't a thought about it. Yeah. I talked to me, and I'm not having sex anymore. Now, that was the part.

I was like. And it's hard. Like, but it's not like anybody else who's been having sex their whole life and then just God reveals them. I don't want you doing this. And then they've like, I got to change. But what was the reveal? The reveal was you're living out of the will of God and I need you to focus on me because right now you're like going down a road of destruction. And I was like, all right, I need to just really focus because if I want a certain type of love, I've got to carry myself in a certain type of way. Like I can't want to be loved like God wants us to be loved and then not be living like he wants me to live.

So I was like, in order to get something different, because I've gone, candy, when I say heartbreak after heartbreak, and it's just like, clearly I'm doing something wrong. And it was just like when I was throwing the towel moments. Honestly, because sex clouds everything, you know, for me, like, when you do it out of the will, for me, it was like, because you think about it. I don't know this is true for you, but for me, like, as soon as like you have sex with somebody, you first year, it's like, oh, my God, it's loving it everything is in something bad. It's like, I don't know if I even like you like that. Like, the scales fall off in your eyes and you're like, oh, this is who you really. are it takes away from that um i get it and you know i hate having these conversations with um and you know i love the lord i told you my you did tell me that yes but i hate having these

conversations sometimes with um people who are on their walk of faith right but these are good because i don't ever want to say anything that's discouraging you from doing something that's in the walk of faith right you know what i mean yeah um Because, listen, I believe in God, too. You know what I mean? And I definitely know that, you know, we all fall short of, you know. Every day. Every day.

Yeah. Right? But I just feel like sometimes people put too much on the sex part. You know, it's so many other things. Sexuality. People's choices of, you know, their sexuality, choosing to have sex, all of the things. I think people act like that's the biggest sin in the world. And they skip over all these other sins.

And that's the only sin they focus on. Exactly. And so that's why when people talk about, you know, for me, for you in this conversation, when you say, what am I doing wrong in the relationship? So was sex the only thing you was doing wrong to make your relationships and that go right for you? No. Because for me, when I have sex and even when I'm talking about, if I'm, me and mind you, I've been married a long time. Yeah.

Have like 2014? 2014? Since 2014. Yeah, it's been a long time. And I have not had sex with another man since Todd and I even dated. Wow. Okay, since we started having sex. Yeah.

So it's been a long time since I've been in the pool of meeting men or whatever. But I remember what it's like. It's, okay. It's muddy then because it's dirty now. Yes, it was muddy then. It was muddy. But what I say in my thought process, when I have sex, I'm having sex for me. I'm not having sex.

just because I'm trying to lock you now. Because some women, they have sex with the mentality. Oh, yeah, I'm going to put this thing on them. They do. And I'm going to make him do what he do, do, do, do. I don't care about putting that thing or you to make you stay. Because it's so many things about me that should make you stay. Come on.

Okay? Yeah. When I'm having sex, I'm having sex for me. For you. You know what you feel like about, like, soul ties out of, like, in the baggage that you carry. People say that thing about soul ties. And I hear what you're saying. but there's people in my past

that I'm not tied to them I would like to forget that we ever had a tie you know what I mean? It's untied. It's untied. Sometimes it's untied. Believe me it's untied.

I don't move forward. I mean, let's, I mean, you ain't a virgin. You know you ain't a virgin. No. The thing about it is. And I felt like I was very open with you like I love sex.

Yeah. Because God wants us to love it. Okay. You feel tired to everybody that you had sex with in the past. There is something that weighs on you with that you take from every person that you have sex with. And you may not realize it. If you're like the certain stresses that you carry, the bonds that you carry, you may not realize it.

But sometimes you look and you're like, why am I feeling like this? What is this? And you feel like it's directly tied to everybody that's been inside you, yes. See, I don't agree. My stress for the day can be dealing with these deals that I got going on. My stress for the day. because I wasn't able to lock in this business opportunity that I was trying to get. Or, you know, for me right now, my husband got on my nerves, you know what I mean?

Or, you know, the kids stressing me out. I'm not tired to nobody that I hooked up with in 2000. No, that's not the only thing that I'm saying. But that's just like, yeah, I do. Yeah, but I totally get what you're saying. And I love having these conversations. It's like girl talk. Great debate.

You know, like just even like we were at your house and my house. I'm like, kitty. So, like, I'm, you're curious to like, and even for me, I'm like, okay, like, when did sex first come up? Like, did you grow up like your mom was open about? Because you know, in Blackhones, it's taboo to talk about. You know what I'm saying? You don't really mention it. Even if you have a parent that says, when you're ready to have sex, come talk to me.

Even when you do that, it's never a comfortable conversation. Well, here's the thing. And I always tell people, you need to have those conversations with your kids way younger than you expect. What age do you think? By middle school, you should have already had that conversation. True, because that's when we're kind of learning about it. Some people think that that's crazy. I'm telling you right now, these kids in middle school having sex, okay?

They having sex or either their friends having sex, they're talking about sex, especially now on the internet, they over here showing each other stuff on the internet in elementary school. Yes. They're showing each other stuff they're finding online. Wow. Now, when I was little, you know, I'm a little older. But, you know, everybody would be trying to see. sneak to watch the dirty channel

that'd be fuzzy and you put some in the box and you try to straighten the channel up so you can see it. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, my mom was not having conversations with me that early. Yeah. I was finding out things through my friend. Right. You know what I mean? And you don't

want their friend to be the one that tells them about sex. Right, no. You know what I mean? That is so true. No. My mom used to always say the worst thing, getting pregnant is not the worst thing that can happen. She was like, you can get an STD that you can't get rid of. She would always put that fear in me.

And she was like, but I want you to be able to come and talk to me about it. And then when you go to talk, it's like, you ain't ready to have sex. I'm like, but these are the things I'm feeling, you know. So it kind of in that home, like you feel like you know what advice you're going to give to a kid one day when they say that to you. Yeah. For me, I mean, honestly, I don't have children right now. But you have to be realistic. You know what I'm saying with the honestly, the influences of the world, where they are now,

how you said, like kids in elementary school are showing each other videos. like, do you see this? So at a young age, just talking to them, letting them know. And honestly, I'll be raising my children in the church under the foundation of Christ so they can know right from wrong at a very young age. But, like, also just teaching and being realistic, like, hey, I know these urges are going to come up. Your hormones are going to start changing. And I do want my children be able to come talk to me. And we can have open dialogue about it so they can, one, be healthy, but also protect them. And given the other consequences that come along with it, you know, and try to protect them as much as I can.

Yeah. Yeah. What advice would you give your children? Like, I know Riley's older, but, like, your younger daughter, like. Well, I always, I am that auntie, that cousin, that everybody come to. Really? Something they need to talk about it or something that went wrong. I always try to catch them a four-go. Yeah. Now, I remember I definitely had cousins that were talking about sick in middle school.

We all did for sure. But I was having that conversation about HPVV. viruses, all of that, showing them the websites to where it show them how these things are passed, how at their age, these days running rampant. I was talking to them about, you know, obviously birth control. I was talking about all the things. And yes, you can tell them, you know, it's best not to do it. What I always would tell most of the girls, I'd be like, first of all, don't be up there

doing nothing with nobody to go to school with you. because if y'all break up, he's going to tell all his friends that y'all did it. And then after that, your next boyfriend is going to say, well, you did it with him. And it's going to be, you're going to feel pressured. So don't do that. I'll have real, real conversation with, you know, family, friends. Yeah. Yeah.

No, that's good. with the internet and you being you being very open with it has it ever been a moment where your daughter has come like mom like this is what the kids are talking about at school or has it I was talking to her before she had to come to me to seeing stuff okay yeah well I'm saying like you're like how you're doing videos like with candy coating nights and stuff like that has any of that oh you mean my personal sex yeah like has kids ever like have kids your kids have come and say something no I go to this okay I mean I've had those conversation with A's and Blaze yet But definitely, in middle school, I think Riley was probably in middle school or just getting into high school, probably high school, I can't remember, when that whole dungeon accusation came about.

So, yes, I had a conversation with my child about like, okay, this is what happy, and blah, blah, blah, blah, yes. Okay, so was it awkward for you to have, or you're just like, this is what it is, like everything else? This is what it is. Now, I know it sounds crazy. It sounds crazy that I'm able to talk to my kids about, you know, stuff like that. But the crazy part that y'all don't realize, their friends are already talking about stuff like that. Absolutely.

No, for sure. So for them, you know, when you explain like, this is what happened, this is what they said, this part is not true. Right. Do not believe, I would never, you know what I mean? Yeah. Then it's like, this is just like, oh, okay.

And move on, it's like moving right along. Yes. Okay, that's good. When it comes to Riley, your older daughter, how do you talk to her and say, hey, like, she's a mom, like, I'm ready to have sex? Like, what is it that you tell her, you know what I'm saying as your daughter and, like, are you pushing her to be as sex positive as you are? Or do you just not make your own decision that's on you? Riley's grown now. Grown, grown, grown.

How is Riley now? She just turned 23. Oh, yeah, she's grown, grown. Yeah, she's grown. Like I said I had always had conversations with her So the first time she had any experience I'm not telling her business

Because I don't want to Yeah absolutely Tell her business as how old or any of that Yes But even the first time she said so Even with all of that I cried Oh

I didn't even Were you not ready I didn't tell her Yes That I was crying She called me I was out of town And she said

something and I was just like oh okay as tears are just streaming down my face because in my mind you know I'm a little out there but you know Riley is not yeah that's so hurt to hear that she was even thinking about anything yeah I was like you know but I didn't want to let her know yeah so I I, you know, I didn't let her hear it in my voice. Yes. But, and I appreciated that she wanted to discuss it with me and trusted you enough. And trusted me enough to say it. She could be going to the cousin or aunt that most people come to talk to you.

Exactly. Mm-hmm. But I ain't going to lie. I was a little, like, thrown off because I didn't, I don't know why I never thought about that day actually coming. Yeah. Even though I know realistically. It's going to come.

Yeah. It's going to come. Mm-hmm. Yeah. What do you think emoted the tears was like you. This is my baby. He is so innocent. Like, what?

Okay, that's what I'm talking about, Candy. Yes. Like, if they brought you to tears, what was it about sex that made you cry, that your daughter's having it now? Because, in my mind, and this is another thing I try to say to young ladies. Even though I don't want to wish bad on y'all little boyfriend.

But chances are you are not going to end up with that person. Oh, my God. My mom is always telling me that. That is not going to be the one ever. Yeah. And you got to kind of go into the situation in your young years, knowing that you might, you were probably going to look back a decade later and be like, I hate this man. I can tell people he ever was with me. Same.

I'm with you. I'm like, you know, and I'm just like, I, you know, of course you know. Of course, you know that it's going to happen, but, you know, I didn't want your baby. Yes. But you are not ever going to be with that person. Right. Yeah. No, so true.

Something that I admire you about and that I've been very vocal about is just your business sense. And I'm really big on financial literacy. You said that you mentioned that your mom taught you not to put all your eggs in one basket. What are some of the lessons that you've learned over the years because you have such longevity, just about financial literacy. Oof, so much. This is where I need you. Okay.

The first thing she used to always say was good credit was better than money. Come on. And simply because, you know, I don't care if you got $100,000 cash sitting right there. If you ain't got a good credit, that's all you can afford. Exactly. Don't mess $100,000. But if you got good credit, you can get something that's $500,000, $900,000, whatever, you know. Right.

So that was the first money lesson. She would always teach me. But for me, reading The Millionaire Next Door when I was like, 17. Wow. You were ahead of your time because no kids are reading that unless their parents were a little bit. Our group got our record deal when I was 16. So my whole goal in life was to never be that teen star that be broke later in life. I love that.

So that was like... Because most teens don't have that mindset. Well, I was... I love it. I was always on a mission to figure it out. Yeah. So I started reading, you know, financial books and different things in my teens. But the other thing, multiple lessons.

One, I didn't trust accountants, our first accountant that our group paid, they stole like $100,000 from us. What? Yes. Putting it all under miscellaneous. you know, you're on tour and they had them like $100,000 worth of miscellaneous

and we're teenagers we don't know you know what I mean and the dude ran off so we couldn't press charge or nothing so yeah

that was a bad experience for me now and I've had a count one or two after that that paid bills for us

but when I got like mid-20s early 20s somewhere in there Yeah. Uh-uh. I write all my checks. I love it.

I write all of them. Nobody is signing nothing for me. Same. You know, I think I had heard Oprah say that. Yep, she taught Tyler that. Tyler taught me. I sit there and watch him and you know, that's a lot of checks. Yeah.

He sit there and click every single one. And what is this? Yeah. Question is, I'm like, wow. Yeah, nobody has permission to go and sign nothing for me. Good for you. You know what I mean? So that's important because even if you spend in a lot, you need to see, see it go out.

Yes, and see something coming in, too. Yeah, because, like, sometimes you be spending and you don't realize. Yes. The other thing, simple things, like I always tell people, put your bill money in one bank, your spending money in a different bank. Come on. So, your cash app and F off money, you know, money you just mess up. Yeah. Put that in the other bank.

Don't put it in your bill account because they will go back. If you overdraft, they're going to overdraft out your bill money if you're in the same bank. Right. And so you need to have them in separate banks. And then that allows you to like, okay, I'm going to be able to budget my money right. My bill's going to be on time. You know, everything will be right. I'm not going to have anything coming out of this account.

And don't even keep an ATM card for that account. Mm-hmm. Yep. I don't even have an ATM card. Yeah. I don't need for my main bank. Yeah. So if somebody takes something out of my while,

you think you got my attempt car, you ain't getting that. Right. It ain't getting nothing. It might be $200 in there that you have at it. Because you are not getting to the real money. Right. You know what I mean? So, yeah, you got to be vigilant with things like that because you could be your own worst enemy

when it comes to budgeting and spending. Yeah. Yeah, that's real. You were 19 years old when you bought your first home. And L.O. Coo-J gave you advice saying make sure. you have a car that you own and a house that you own. So you always have a car to get around and a place to lay your head. Yeah.

First of all, a lot of people cannot say they bought a house at the age of 19. So that's, hats off to you for that. But what did that lesson teach you at a very young age about just managing and homeownership? Because that's a big, big responsibility. Well, the other thing that he said was every time you get a check, throw a little bit extra towards the principal because, you know, they allow you to, you know, take years off. your loan. Yes. So as soon as he told me that, because I used to, when I was younger, I was

better with money than I am now. Let me just say that. I used to budget my checkbook down to the penny. Okay. So I went home. I looked at a little statement and you know how when you see it tells you the principal, the tax, and then, you know, the interest and all that. So when I added up my principal, I was like, it's really not that much going to a year, where it's the principal. Right. All of that's going to the interest and stuff. And then I realized what he was saying was right. And so I was like, okay, if I just put like, you know, so even if I got $500, I'm putting an extra $50 to the principal or I'm going to put an extra, you know, if I get a big check, extra thousand, extra this. And then next thing you know, in over a couple of years,

you can knock that thing all the way down. Yeah. You know, and it's important, especially when you are your own boss, Mm-hmm. Entertainment especially, because, you know, our stuff is up and down. You know, one minute you're popping.

You're making all the checks in the world. Next minute, you're not. Yeah. And, you know, your run might last you a good five, ten years, and some people think that never ends. And it does. But if you got a 30-year-long, know that at the 10-year mark,

your checks is not going to be the same as when you first started it or your journey at 15 year mark is not going to be the same your job situation may change anything could change so stop thinking you got so much time and money to be able to just blow right now that's good candy you know what I mean because if you go ahead and start knocking that loan down by the time you get 15 years into it and you can just stop and then you don't have a mortgage now come on that part

Like, what? You know, there's things like that. People don't even think about, and it's little things that you can do. Yes. You know? Yeah. You talked about the life insurance policy. And that is still going viral.

That interview was so long. Are you serious? Yeah. It just popped back up. I was like, oh, wow. It keeps popping up. I've been seeing it. And I have a life insurance policy, and that was a part of the reason, like, once you get a

investment, life insurance policy. Where you can pull from it. And I was like, oh, wow, like once you had a certain age. How old were you when you learned about that? So I was 26. That was the year I had Riley. And my intentions were to, you know, make sure that, Lord forbid something happened to me, because, you know, I'm a single mama.

Yeah. I'm like, Lord of forbid something, I don't make it out of here. At least you got something. Right. So I had got a pretty big policy at that time. But shout out to my people over. her at the bank. Shout out to Kira. She had introduced me to, at the first, I think it was the first one I did was with Hartford Life. Okay. And they had did this whole analysis and they

broke down how much I was going to, because they say, okay, how much money do you think you need to retire? And back then I thought I was going to retire at 40, y'all. I don't know. What was I thinking? But they were like, okay, so this is how much you got to put into it in order to be able to retire at 40 and get $250,000 a year. Now, mind you, that was a lot of money I had to put into it each year. But honestly, I ended up only having to put it in for eight years. I thought I was going to have to put it in to 40, but it was only to 40 if I wanted to start pulling out at 40. Yeah.

But to just lock it to where I never had to put no more money into it, it was, you know, like eight years. Yeah. So at that point, I didn't put no more in and it has grown to the point now, well, to last year, I've upped it tremendously. So it was so much in it last year, my bank was like, you know, if you won't, you can just do this exchange thing. and it will triple the amount that you were insured for previously. Wow. But now I won't be able to pull out, pull any out for another few years. But during that time, let me just say, because so many people were like, you know, it's difference of opinions.

So some people, investors say, well, the money that you put into that life insurance policy, you could have put it in this. they're always going to have another you know thing and it would have grown this much and you could have had that much and blah blah blah blah but what I know now so what I say I always tell people to diversify don't just put in insurance obviously you want to have the insurance because one insurance hey even if you didn't put that much in it and you kick the bucket tomorrow your family got exactly what their insurance was worth right okay but the other part of it is the money that you put in there, it's kind of protecting because people

I mean, they could try, but they can't really sue your life or your life. Right. Right. Right. So that's another thing. Yes. The other thing is you can, the way that the investment policy works, you're able to borrow the money from your policy.

So that's money you're taking out tax-free that you really ain't got to pay back. So as it's growing, so say for instance, when I bought my house, And I bought a foreclosure originally. It was a foreclosure. So at forecloses, a lot of times you have to pay cash for it.

Right. I was able to just go and pull the money out and buy the house. Yeah. You know what I mean? And yeah. Yeah. And I'm good. You know what I'm saying?

So it was so many benefits. And when the market went crazy, you know, like remember that year when real estate everything went to hell. I can't remember it when it was. It was crazy. Yeah. My insurance was still there. Yeah. It was still there.

Mm-hmm. You know, it didn't disappear. Right. So I just rode out the market. Mm-hmm. You know what I mean? Whereas some people, you know, was panicking, so they was pulling their money out the stocks.

Yep. They was pulling their money out of this and not realizing that eventually that stuff is going to come, go back up. And higher, yeah. So even the stocks that I had, I didn't, I didn't panic. I just left it there and it grew back. Yeah. So I do tell people you should have it diversify it and get you a little crypto too.

Yes. Okay. I haven't gotten there. I got to get into that. Yes. I don't know. It's something about not being able to see it where I'm like, how does this really work? I'm not.

You got to take a little chance every now and then. I'm going to look into it for sure. You are now actually producing your own Broadway. You're doing so many different things. outside of music, what pushed you just like, I want to start producing Broadway plays? Well, I feel like everything that I've done, I've always liked to know the behind the scenes

as well as in front. Don't matter if it was music. Obviously, I started going behind the scene, writing and producing for other people, TV, film. I was on camera, then I started producing, you know, with film and television. And same thing with Broadway.

And I was on Broadway with Chicago on Broadway. Yes. And then I knew I wanted to go back. That was Mama Martin. I was Mama Morton. Yes. And I knew I wanted to go back at some point. And I didn't know in which way.

Yeah. The opportunity came up to be a producer. And that's when I met my producing partner. Shout out to you, Brian Moreland. He was doing thoughts of a colored man at the time. I went to say it twice. Oh, thank you. Yes, you're welcome.

It was so good. Thank you. When I tell you, cried both times, phenomenal. Like, are they going to bring that back? Because we need a. I'm telling him that we should bring you back. Yeah. It was a great learning experience.

And, but anyway, we, it was during COVID and it was so much going on at the time. Yeah. I was very emotional when we had to. shut it down early because of the rules of Broadway at that time. Yeah. But we decided we was going to go for another one. And we did. And each time it has gotten better and better and better.

And I feel like I learn more and more. And now I feel like I'm official in this lane. Yeah, you just did Othello. Like, huge. And I actually kind of went to that twice because Ashana and I were supposed to go and I bought the tickets on the wrong day. Yeah. Got there and they're like, and I'm like, try it again.

Because I know I bought these tickets. He's like, eh. like, oh my gosh, looked at the day I was a week late. Oh, my goodness. So, went back. So, yeah, I went to see Othello twice, too, and I actually went to see it the second time. Well, thank you. You're welcome. I appreciate. Yes. So proud of your name. That was huge. Thank you. It was like a blessing. Like, I was a theater kid when I was younger. I went to to Tri-Cities High School of Visual and Performing Arts. Shout out to Try High. Everybody didn't with this. And I also was in the Youth Assembly of Atlanta. Shout out to Freddie.

Hendricks. So that was something I did in my teen years that I always wanted to do, but music took off first for me. And after a while, being in music, I'm like, why haven't I ever tried to go after my initial dream of doing theater? Like, why? So I just, I had changed my agent and I told them what I wanted to. to do. I wanted to be on Broadway, and that's when I got the audition to do

Chicago on Broadway. And from there, it just was like, I just wanted to expand. Yeah, I love that. When it comes to investments, what has been like the biggest thing that you were like, I regret doing that, that maybe when an investment fail for you? Because you've had a lot of successes. I'd take a lot of gimbals. Ooh. I've had a lot of things. that have happened. So many things. Let me just,

I can run a list. I mean, I can start with, music is always a gamble. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Okay. We love music. We do. We do.

Yeah. It's a gamble. I know at this one time, I was doing my own album. And, you know, when you are like an opening act, sometimes you have to get tour support from your label and stuff like that. Yeah.

And I remember my manager at the time told me I was supposed to be getting some money from the label that I was with at the time. He was like, oh, yeah, they're going to pay this and that. And I was going to me on tour. So I started fronting the setup for myself. Yeah. Because, you know, you got to get the hotel. It's a lot that talks about going on tours, a lot of things.

So I started fronting all the money for myself, but we, about to actually leave to go out. Ain't nobody came yet from. I'm like, well, where the money at? What? And like two weeks in the tour, after I'm like a hundred and something thousand dollars in, he tells me that they said that they weren't paying it.

Oh, no. He got to pay that. Because what? No. I had money gone. Oh, my gosh. And I'm one of those people that I don't mind gambling. Yeah.

But I like to prepare. Right. Like, I'd be like, okay, I'm going to gamble this on that. But when you don't know that you gambling when you spend it. Right. And you don't know that it's- You're counting for that to come back. Exactly.

Yeah. So I had to grind that money right back. I was like, oh, my God. You got to get back. Get to the streets. What are we doing? So, yeah. Now, I've been gambling on a girl group.

Yes, yes. How do you pronounce it? On the heart for them, siren. Siren, yes. Yeah. Yeah, and I've spent hundreds of thousands of dollars. People don't know how much it takes to, like, get a girl group off and get it started. So expensive.

So expensive. And one of the girls quit. What? Yes. Does she know how much you've been investing in her? In them? Anyway. Are you like infuriated?

Are you like, what is happening? I am so infuriated. Yeah. So infuriated. Because it's one thing when you're gambling on someone, on yourself. But when you gambling on other people's dreams, and you want to see other people win. More than they want to see it, you. You have to understand that when you see it for somebody else so bad that you're willing to put your money on the line for them.

And then only for it to fall apart, only for you to know that people are going to be like, well, they should have did this or why can't he didn't do this? And I'll be thinking about all this money I don't spend. Right. Shia! I'm like, ooh. Ooh, ooh, ooh. Yeah, that's the behind the stuff. Behind the scenes stuff people don't see.

And then you meet, I meet a million people that. It's like, Candy, will you do this for me or will you invest that in me? And when you, they don't understand where the apprehension comes from. Because this is not the first time that I've tried to. to help another artist or whatever. And, you know, now I'm like trying to figure out like, okay, what do we do in this situation? I still got two more young ladies that are extremely talented, that I still want them to win. And it's like, you know, where do we go from here?

You know what I'm saying? So it is, yeah. Yeah. I want to ask you some. That just came to me as you were saying that everybody's all candy, candy, candy, candy, candy. when you go home at night after heavy days like what is your reset like how do you cope with everything oh because it seems like it's a lot yeah it is a lot um my last week was heavy i decided to go to a hotel and treat myself to a spa good for you yeah and at home whether

it's a staycation yep um but honestly i don't really take a lot of time for myself. I don't really take a lot of time to Wusa. Yeah. I'm always just jumping to the next thing and trying to keep things going. Yeah. Business-wise or to keep my focus in a good place. Because, you know, you're creative. I'm a creative. So, you know, sometimes that creative energy just picks you up. It does. You know what I mean?

It puts another, it puts a battery in your back. And you're like, yeah, it definitely puts a battery in your back. So that and hanging out with my kids, you know, that's the fun stuff. Yeah. Do you ever feel like you're pouring from an empty cup? Oh, it's not. Depleted. So I want to challenge you to take time for yourself.

That's important. That's crazy that you're like, I don't do that. You have to. I think in those moments you'll probably, which is a big part of the fasting right now, is because I'm like you, I'm like, go, go, go, what's next? How can we build? How can we scale? It's like, okay, I need to be.

sell for a minute, you know, and really like figure out what do I truly want? Am I in a, like on a rat race right now? Am I just going on a hamster wheel and circles? Yeah. To really figure out what it is that you want and like find those moments of just candy's happiness. Because it sounds like you feed into a lot of people and everybody's like, give me, give me, give me, give me, give me, give me, give me, yeah. Yeah. So I want to challenge you to do that, sis. I don't try. I don't try. We got to do it. I'm telling you, like, I tell my people all the time, like, listen, if you need a moment, like go. So, please, because we can't be our best sales and showbiz our best sales if we're always exhausted

and always, like, constantly having to, like, think of the next thing. That is true. Yeah. That's true. You can do it. I got a real busy end of year. Yeah. You probably need a little moment right before that just so you can push through that.

Even if it's just a little seccation on the weekend, you can do it. Something. Something. Yeah. When it comes to this season where it's all about impact, now when your story is told years from now, what do you want Candy Burris' legacy to be when they talk about you? Ooh.

You know, it's always kind of weird when people ask me that question because I'd be like, ooh, what are they going to say about me when I'm going to always think about that? I was like, what are they going to say? I want people to say that I was a woman who opened doors

for a lot of people, and I helped a lot of people along the way. Yeah. Like, I wanted to be so many people that stand up and say, Candy looked out for me, you know what I mean? And, or, you know, whatever the experience was, helped them in some way. Like, you know, obviously I want to set my kids up for greatness, and I want them to be set up to enjoy life and be happy.

Yes. And, but I want, you know, to feel like I helped my community, I helped my friends, I helped my family, and I did it with no complaints. Yes, I love that. I love that. When you're saying that, that people, that you looked out for people, I remember it was very small, but it meant so much to me. We were at Fashion Week, and it was my first Fashion Week, and I'm standing in the room at the basement of Sergio Hudson Show. and like everybody's like candy candy everybody take pictures and they're like nobody's like chrystal let's take your picture and you're like crystal come on and it was just that moment of being seen in a room where you god here it comes again i'm not going to cry today you're not going to do this to me i was like i can't believe i made it without crying today but it's a moment of

like being seen in a room where you feel invisible and in that moment you saw me and i think that was just a small glimpse of me being able to see your heart and who you are and i was like and i thank you them i was like thank you so much because you didn't have to do that and you're No, you're welcome. But it was so sweet. I was like, it may have been small to you, but it was really big to me. Thank you. I mean, overall, like I told you, I love what you're doing, your growth.

You know, I remember, you know, before you start being on TV. Yeah. Just hang around, Gosey and being around. Yeah, just being in the same circles. I just always, I admired your, you know, your journey that you know. Thank you. You know, and I'm like, anything that I can do to help shine a light, I'm going to do that. I appreciate that.

Yeah, I feel that. And I know my community is rooting for you. We're going to support everything you have going on. Thank you. And if there's anything like upcoming that we can jump on when this episode airs, please let us know. Okay. Yeah, let us know how we can support it. And we'll make sure that we put that in the caption and say, hey, make sure y'all support candy or put in our stories, whatever we can do.

Thank you, we got you, sis. Yes, absolutely. Thank you so much. Well, thanks for having me. Yes. I had a good time. Yes. If you could tell our audience where they can find you.

Okay. Hey, everybody, you can find me at Candy, K-A-N-D-I on pretty much all social media platforms, Candy Online on YouTube, on Patreon. It's Candy, too, K-A-N-D-I. And, oh, I always tell people to text me. Ooh. Yeah, you know, I got my little text family. I always shout out to y'all.

Text me. The number is 404-458-9-464. 4458-9-464. Text me. Tell me what you thought about this interview. I love it. Make you guys tapping with candy. Thank you guys so much. And candy, thank you for your time. Thank you. Yes. All right, so today's fit, I am wearing a chocolate brown, a Ronnie Cobo dress. Absolutely love this dress. Earing's by Botheca Veneta. My bracelet is by Tom Ford and Cartier. Waring my signature jewelry and my shoes are a gold, metallic. Pumped by Dolce and Gabana.

Sweeties, today's conversation was everything. It really was. It was fun. It was unfiltered and full of gems that only candy could give. You know, I love that she's always showing that you can build an empire and still be your authentic self every step of the way. I really enjoyed having this conversation, and I hope you enjoyed it just as much as I did. In the meantime, in between time, keep it positive, sweetie.

And if you know someone that could use a little positivity, share this podcast with them. See you guys next time. Thank you.