Keep it Positive, Sweetie - The Strength In Submission w/Dr. Cheyenne Bryant

Episode Date: December 8, 2024

With an unabashed delivery and honest assessments of the social, romantic and professional lives of some of the biggest names in entertainment and more, Dr. Cheyenne Bryant is blazing a new path for h...erself as on-camera talent. Crystal and Dr. Bryant discuss her professional trajectory, her deeply personal dating history and how she's embracing her season of singleness.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Coming up on Keep It Positive, sweetie. Marriage is not about kumbaya, it's about commitment. It's about, I said I was gonna lock in with you, Crystal, and be your best friend. And no matter what happens, I already forgive you. And no matter what happens, I'm gonna talk it out. I'm gonna have a conversation. And divorce ain't an option.
Starting point is 00:00:19 So we have no other option but to bring resolve in this friendship. And if my friendships aren't on that foundation, guess what? I don't want them. Hi, I'm Chris Renee Hazlett and this is the Keep It Positive Sweetie Show, a safe space to heal, laugh, grow and love. Today's show is all about mental health, the keys to good communication and the pathways to living your best life. Dr. Cheyenne Bryan is here and between her viral interviews and tell it like it is demeanor,
Starting point is 00:01:09 there's a lot we'll be able to talk about. With an unapologetic delivery and honest reads of the social, romantic, and professional lives of some of the biggest names in the entertainment industry, Dr. Cheyenne Bryan's brand is buzzing. I'm so excited to talk to her about her love life, the formula for communication without conflict, and how we can all attain mental and emotional wellness. Dr. Bryant, thank you so much for coming today. This has been long awaited.
Starting point is 00:01:37 Our fans were blowing you up, they were blowing me up about getting you on the show. So I'm so excited we got to make this happen. Yeah, thank you for having me. And then when I seen you coming off the elevator, I was like, oh my God, come here, give me a hug. We're both like as if we had just like been friends for years. I was like, oh my God, hi.
Starting point is 00:01:53 I was like, they want us to do this thing. And then you were just so amazing with making it happen and so quick and working with my time and your time. So thank you, thank you. I'm honored to be on your show. Thank you. You are such a busy woman. Every time I turn on my phone, I feel like there's you, thank you. I'm honored to be on your show. Thank you. You are such a busy woman. Every time I turn on my phone,
Starting point is 00:02:07 I feel like there's a clip of you. You have been everywhere. One day they love me and the next day they hate me. But the cool thing is that every day I love myself. That's all that matters. I love that. I love that. So we've, we've, we're going to get to the deep stuff.
Starting point is 00:02:21 We see you on the phone, on the interviews, having deep conversation, always therapy and helping people. But I wanna know, what does Dr. Bryant do? You pour into everyone. How do you pour back into yourself? I love that. Well, one, having an amazing ecosystem.
Starting point is 00:02:39 I have best friends, Lola, Gina, Kia, that just surround me with love. When I say they support me, sis, these women root for me. These are 25 plus year friendships. I could be all of myself, the loving, nurturing, catering, submissive me, the fussy bratty, I'm just hungry, it's that time of the month, you know?
Starting point is 00:03:02 I want a burger from McDonald's, me. They just get me, and it's reciprocal. My the month, you know, I want a burger from McDonald's. They just get me and it's reciprocal. My best friend travels with me everywhere. She's my assistant as well. Lola, yeah, she's very protective over me. And so that gives me cushion. My mom, who is my only living parent now, she cooks, cleans, she lives with me, and she treats me like I'm four years old. And as crazy as that sounds, I feel like it's important for all of us to be somebody's baby, no matter how old we are,
Starting point is 00:03:30 and still being her baby, it just, it's like, it helps me be vertical and it gives me a lot to stand on. And so no matter where I'm at in the world, no matter what the blogs or the people are saying in that moment, in that space, I have these people that I stand on. And so it feels really good. And in addition, I meditate every day for 20 minutes.
Starting point is 00:03:51 I've been doing that for 10 years. I'm big on Abraham Hicks, Bishop Jakes. I'm always listening to my audio books. I'm not a TV person, although I don't watch TV, but I did love your, as a team a show, I can't lie. I used to go in there and be like, I'm gonna binge watch this even though I don't watch TV. But I did love your, as a team a show. I can't lie. I used to go in there and be like, I'm a binge watcher, they see what I don't watch TV. But so I do all those things and that helps keep the
Starting point is 00:04:10 outside chatter completely outside. A ship sells as long as the outside water doesn't get inside. And the ship that the material that the ship is built with, I would say is your friends, your family, the people who support you, who love you. And so if you got folks who are solid and who are built, that ship is gonna sail no matter what. And their job is to make sure that the outside chatter
Starting point is 00:04:30 stays out, and then my job is to do that as well with them. And we do a damn good job over here. We do, I mean, I have a team, I'm telling you. Because we have a real marriage. Marriage is not about kumbaya, it's about commitment. It's about, I said I was gonna lock in with you, Crystal, and be your best friend, and no matter what happens, I already forgive you.
Starting point is 00:04:49 And no matter what happens, I'm gonna talk it out. I'm gonna have a conversation, and divorce ain't an option. So we have no other option but to bring resolve in this friendship. And if my friendships aren't on that foundation, guess what, I don't want them. I don't want them. I love that, it looks like you live what you preach
Starting point is 00:05:05 even in your friendships. Because we talk about your relationships and you give advice on relationships, but it sounds like you do that also in your friendships. That's amazing. I do. Because the boy, I tell my girls all the time, my bachelor may be like,
Starting point is 00:05:16 you didn't have to say it like that. I said, girl, what we gonna do to get over it because you ain't going nowhere? You're stuck with me. You ain't going nowhere. Girl, I will body slam you. She's always like, I'll hear you go. Do you have, you're a boy. I'm like, no, I'm not., I will body slam you. She's always like, I'll hear you go. Do you have, you're a boy. I'm like, no, I'm not.
Starting point is 00:05:25 But I will body slam you. But I will body slam you. And you think you walking out this door. I love you. You ain't going nowhere. Yeah, I love that. In your downtime, I don't know how much downtime you get now. What is like your favorite place to go on vacation just to get away?
Starting point is 00:05:40 As crazy as it sounds, I have a, you know, and I say this with all humility, I have a beautiful, really big home. Our lot, not the property, our lot is 24,000 square feet. We're a horse zone. We got a pool, a pool house, a game room. And we didn't always have that. I always say we went from the hood to the heels. And my favorite place, it's like a retreat there
Starting point is 00:05:59 to vacation is, and I have the big mama house, is at home with my mom. And we have a pool day and my friends and family come over and my bishop comes over, my pastor comes over with First Lady. And we have board games and we drink our wine and we have our drink and we're just shooting the shit. Literally and talking loud and having a good time
Starting point is 00:06:20 and my hair's in a bird's nest and I run around in a bathing suit and everybody is at home. And as crazy as that sounds, that's my vacation. I like to be there. Yeah, no, I get it. Because I feel the same way a lot of times. We go so much and home can be a vacation and actually enjoying your home. I remember telling a friend I was working so much leading up to COVID that when I had to sit home, I was like, wow, like I finally got to appreciate where I live because it's literally just going to sleep there because I was working and on the go so much that I realized, oh my goodness, this is a blessing
Starting point is 00:06:54 and I can actually sit in this for a minute. So I get it. It was like your refuge. Yeah, yeah. And then being with my mother, she is a ball of energy. She is hilarious. She's catering, she's loving. So for me, she creates this space, right?
Starting point is 00:07:14 Like I always say, I bought the house, but my mama makes it a home. She really does. So, but for me, that's where I go home and I'm just like, mommy, mama, you know? And so that's my vacation. And so, I mean, we got a planned vacation, but my mom, she's like, if it's over four hours, I'm not traveling.
Starting point is 00:07:35 No effing way. I'm like, ma, you have to go. So my brother and I have been trying to get her like, you have to go on a vacation. Yeah, no, it's funny. I just took my parents to Europe for the first time. They'd never been. And I just love traveling overseas. And at first, my dad was like, I don't know, that long flight.
Starting point is 00:07:53 And I'm like, Dad, come on. And he was like, I don't know if I can fly that long. And a friend of his was like, if my daughter's going to take me overseas, I'd be on the first thing smoking. And he called me back, and he goes, you know what? I'm going to do it. And it was the best decision he made.'d be on the first thing smoking. And he called me back and he goes, you know what, I'm gonna do it. And it was the best decision he made. And they're still talking about it.
Starting point is 00:08:08 They have a time of their life, but I get it. They have to travel. They have to, girl. And take a vacation, yeah. And she's like just stalling on getting her passport. It's so cute. So we took her to Hawaii and she hit about that third hour on that flight.
Starting point is 00:08:21 She was fussing and cutting up. Me and my brother, we were like, oh my God. Like mom, stop, stop. She was like, this is too, I'm getting past the phone. Oh my God, I'm so embarrassed. The people next to us were like, can you move this woman? I was like, I'm so sorry. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:08:36 But did she have phone when she got there? She had a time. She put her little bathing suit on and she was just, we went dolphin watching and swimming with the dolphins. Yeah. It was adorable. We had a good time. I love it. You're very open about dating. We spoke offline about you're from Los Angeles but you are here working a lot and you talked about how the dating, it's not really a lot going on here. It's not. We can talk about that. You know what? Also I'm in session from 8am to 5pm. I leave at 5.15 to go on set at 6 to
Starting point is 00:09:09 film my new talk show. And then I'm home at 11.30. It's True Talks. It's called True Talks on Fox. Thank you. Thank you. So I don't think I've really been getting out of it. I know at home in LA, I have this thing where I practice what I preach. I've committed to get out minimum twice a week to do something non-work related and super social and be in the environment with the men who I would want to date. And so I made sure I do that at home in LA. But in Atlanta, I haven't done it,
Starting point is 00:09:36 but also I'm like, where do I go? I don't have any friends, I don't know anyone. But I don't see a lot of just men out where I'm like, ooh, I wanna flirt back or hi, how you doing? Did someone, you said something that stood out, making sure that you put yourself in the places to attract the type of man you want.
Starting point is 00:09:57 I just talked about that because my friends, when I was looking to date, they were like, well, where are you going? I'm like, nowhere. I was like, what first year? Wait, looking to date, you ain't dating no more? I'm like, nowhere. It's like, well, first you- Wait, looking to date, you ain't dating no more? I'm dating now, but like, I wasn't like, I'm dating someone.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Oh, I love it. Explosive, she dated someone, oh my gosh. So I was like, when those things were like, what are you doing? And I'm like, I don't go anywhere. And it was then I was like, I had to start putting myself in places. So what are some of the places that you go
Starting point is 00:10:23 to attract the man that you want? Oh girl, you know, so I do rooftops. I love your rooftops. I know, I do rooftops. I'm president of NAACP in Los Angeles. And so I go to a lot of political events. I do, I go to a lot of, this was election year, so I was at a lot of different campaigns
Starting point is 00:10:42 that my Cal group put together fundraisers. We did fundraisers for our mayor, Karen Bass. And there were a lot of really good looking, you know, men there who were contributors to the campaign. So we know they got the money to contribute. Come on. We know they know their politics, so they're intelligent. You know, they can do some good pillow talk.
Starting point is 00:11:02 So I was there and met a couple guys, went on some dates, and I do have guys that I go on dates with, and no disrespect to them, because they're all amazing men, but there hasn't been anyone that I've been on dates with that I wanna just continue to date for the rest of my life. And so I've been saying for the past,
Starting point is 00:11:20 since I turned 42 in September, I'm like, I'm in my choosing stage, I'm gonna choose. But I ain't got no one come that I wanna choose. And it's not to say they're not amazing, and they're not really good men. It's just- What's missing? Like what are those things that you're like,
Starting point is 00:11:36 that's what I'm looking for. I love this, I love this. So I have this thing where I tell my clients this all the time, even the ones who are already married. I said, did you choose marriage or did you choose him or her? Because see, I'm not a woman who's choosing marriage, right? I had a father and no pun intended to the fatherless girls because that's a hard space to navigate.
Starting point is 00:11:56 And you know, I don't understand that personally, but I understand that because I've been helping women navigate that for 16 plus years. But I had a father, he was participatory. He was my best friend, he doted on me, he loved me, I was his everything, I was one of his biggest investments besides all the other six of us that he has. But I said that to say, so I'm not choosing marriage because I need a title validation or something that I can just hang up like an ornament.
Starting point is 00:12:22 I'm really choosing a person. And so when you choose a person, that's when marriage lasts. Because if I'm choosing you, I'm plugged into you. And that means that I literally can't go outside of you and find another you. But if I choose marriage, I can take that title and put that on anybody, right? So that's how marriage is able to dissipate so quick
Starting point is 00:12:39 and the divorce rate is so high. Cause it's like, look, I was choosing marriage to begin with. I never chose you anyway. So I can just go choose me another pretty thing. and the divorce rate is so high, because it's like, look, I was choosing marriage to begin with. I never chose you anyway. So I can just go choose me another pretty thing. Like you put a marriage on her and be in a marriage, but not in a relationship.
Starting point is 00:12:51 And so when I'm out with men, I'm like, two things. Would I want my son to be like you? If it's a no, then it's a no. Can I really choose you? Like when things get hard, am I willing to just forgive you about everything? Because I'm not leaving my husband. And that's why I don't think women or men
Starting point is 00:13:10 who stay through anything, except abuse of course, are dumb. You know, I don't think, Envy asked me on Breakfast Club, he said, do you think if a woman stays in a marriage after she's been cheated on, she's dumb? I said, I don't think she's dumb. No, that's her husband, that's her family. If she wants to stay, I think she needs to get the right
Starting point is 00:13:27 tools to learn how to be in an infidelity relationship. Right, because it takes a shift in who you are as a woman. So that you can still be submissive to this man and still treat him as a king and not see him as less valuable in that. So for me, it's just, it's like, will I, God forbid, and not see him as less valuable in that. So for me it's just, it's like, will I, God forbid, you end up stepping out on me
Starting point is 00:13:52 or doing things that dishonor me because you're human, not because you're a bad man. Will I wanna work that out with you because you're just my person? When that presents itself, I'm locking in. I'm having babies. And I don't condone the cheating, but I'm not leaving my husband.
Starting point is 00:14:11 I'll leave a man, I'm not leaving my husband. Your husband, exactly. I was watching something on, you know, all these, it's a lot of relationship talk on Instagram. And I cannot remember who it was, but he was saying that marriages, oh, I think it was the pastor of 29, 18, Philip Mitchell. I don't wanna misquote his name, but he's a pastor here.
Starting point is 00:14:36 And he was saying that marriages can be stronger sometimes after infidelity if the both partners work towards it. And they can kind of learn more about yourselves and what you can handle But then yeah going in and doing the work together to change you sometimes you can come out even stronger on the other side of it I love that yeah Because I always say the Bible says seek wise counsel and when it's referring to seeking wise counsel when it comes to marriage Folks have been married 15 20 30 40 years. They're not teaching you how to be happy folks have been married 15, 20, 30, 40 years, they're not teaching you how to be happy.
Starting point is 00:15:05 They're teaching you how to stick through the BS that's gonna come with life, whether you're single or married. Right. Right, no matter what you're doing, life is gonna life. And they're teaching you that when y'all get to this space, when you get to this red seat, don't get weary and well-doing in a split. Right, and so it's telling you,
Starting point is 00:15:22 when you get to the other side, and you know, there's a promised land or a wilderness, depending on what you choose. And if you choose to complain after the Red Sea has split, God will give you a man and water to help you sustain that wilderness. But he'll put you in that wilderness for 40 years before you get to the promised land.
Starting point is 00:15:39 And so that's why I said, it's not about a woman or a man being dumb for staying through anything in their marriage or even relationship. It's about, do you have the effective tools to not end up in a wilderness 20, 30 more years in your marriage because you're resentful? For staying with this person for what you know they did. How do you actively forgive?
Starting point is 00:16:00 Because forgiveness is an action word. And how can you still love them and honor them when they just dishonored you? Because that's real. Yeah, no, that's so real. That's the real work. Yeah. And so I'm working on that before I get into that.
Starting point is 00:16:13 And I feel like me coming in open-minded without all of these conditions in compartmentalizing like I did in my younger days when I was engaged, coming in with these conditions, if this happens, if this happens, I'm done. Well, baby, you already done. Baby, let's, cause something's gonna happen. Them things is gonna happen.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Yeah. You're done. No, that's real. You know, and if you have this fairy tale ideology, fairy tales end at some point. That was me. That was me. For the longest, like, and I feel like Disney
Starting point is 00:16:40 just kind of warped our minds and I wanted that. And I had, I dated a guy and he goes, you just want this fairy tale and it does not exist. And I'm like, yes it does. And he's like, Give it to me now. Yes, and he's like, no it does not. And I'm finally realizing it does not.
Starting point is 00:16:54 And it's because after I hear people talk about their truths that have been made for so long and I'm literally like idolizing their relationships. Like that's what I want, that's what I want. And they tell me, no honey, it was not all roses. It still isn't, but this is my person. So it's so true. And you gotta learn how to see in others
Starting point is 00:17:15 what you wanna see in them and what you wanna experience. That has been one of my biggest blessings is, what do I wanna experience with Crystal? So what lens do I have to see, I have to see that in her? Cause I'm responsible for my experience. And in a marriage or a relationship, do I want to see my husband as having to be perfect
Starting point is 00:17:35 so that I'm always having to find something I can criticize for? Or can I just accept him for being a man and say, that's my husband, that's just the stuff, girl. Girl. And I take them in doses sometimes. How do we do that? And then the other thing is the Bible says
Starting point is 00:17:51 marriage is for disciplined people. You were just speaking on that, on the breakfast, yes, yes. And that's because I have to be disciplined enough to know also how to self soothe when you're only at 60% of satisfying me. What do I do with that 40%? Do I self-soothe?
Starting point is 00:18:08 Do I cheat? Do I ridicule you? Do I emasculate you? Does he disempower you? Does he have a side chick for the 40% you can't cover that he knew you couldn't cover when he first met you? You knew this when you got with this woman. You knew this.
Starting point is 00:18:22 Or when you become the mother of his children, how does he self soothe while you're transitioning from mommyhood to duality of wife and mommy? Yeah, because it's a, yeah. I hear it on both sides. That's where the discipline comes in. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:36 And I had my first fiance's mom, she was so amazing at this. When we first got engaged, she took me on this ride, girl. And she was like, okay, honey, I gotta talk to you, and I'm like, okay. And she's like, you know, I buy you lingerie for birthdays and Christmas, that's for my son, which I loved. I was like, okay, and she was like, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:53 and when y'all have your first kids, I just want you to know. Just want you to know. Now, that hole down there may not work, but as a wife, you have other holes and you have a mouth. His mom said it to you? Let me tell you how genius though I thought that was. Because she was looking out for her son.
Starting point is 00:19:13 She was saying as a, she had been married about 40 years to his father at that time. As a married woman, she's saying, let me just tell you what has worked for us and possibly maybe the mistake she might have made. That's good, yeah. And I just thought, wow, if more moms would have that real authentic conversation versus just, you know, honey, just get married and, you know, ride off on a horse in the midnight
Starting point is 00:19:36 hours, that doesn't work. It's not that, no. Right. What do we do when I have this baby and he has needs and I can't deliver? What are the alternatives? How do we do when I have this baby and he has needs and I can't deliver? What are the alternatives? How do we communicate that? How do I make sure that baby and father or husband both feel seen and loved?
Starting point is 00:19:53 How do I communicate to him that my hormones are crazy and I need more reassurance? And I'm not insecure and if I am, so what? Support me in this. I don't care what title you put to it, then it's insecure, then you really need to help me become more secure. I just birthed your baby.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Yeah. What do we do in this space? Because your hormones are all over the place, yeah. What does that look like, right? I've seen friends, male and female, and I've been on the receiving end of hearing both the wife and the husband vent about those things, and I'm like, well, you need to understand
Starting point is 00:20:21 her body's going through all these different changes, and then the guy's like, the same thing, like, well, let me get some head or something. I'm like, we need to understand her body's going through all these different changes. And then the guy's like, like the same thing, like, well, I mean, let me get some head or something. I'm like, but look, can I ask you this? I mean, do you think that's too much for a man to ask for? You had a baby. I mean, I'm not saying the day you come out the hospital, but damn, I mean, a couple weeks
Starting point is 00:20:38 into it, do you think it's too much for him to not demand it, but to say baby, I'm struggling because it's been a long time. I mean, it's been too recent. We used to have a really active sex life. I mean, can I get some head? Yeah. I'll lay there too much head. In between. Is that too much?
Starting point is 00:20:52 No, it's not. Or is that just adulting? It's adulting. And him being vulnerable enough to say, I got needs. I got needs. And I'm not even thinking about stepping out on you. My needs are just- Hand job, mouth job, something?
Starting point is 00:21:04 I mean, now, I don't have any kids, so I say this now without motherless. But my thing is like, absolutely, hold on, give him 10 more minutes to feed you, hold on. Yeah. Let's go, let's go. Let's go, Christo, Christo, but can you hurry up? I'm tired.
Starting point is 00:21:19 I'm tired. And I'm dripping, hold on, let me wipe. I'm dripping wet, hold on. Listen, that is dedication. Can you wipe while I suck wipe, I'm tired. Wait, and I'm dripping. Let me wipe. I'm dripping wet. Hold on. Listen, that is dedication. Can you wipe while I suck, white baby, wipe. But that's teamwork. That is teamwork.
Starting point is 00:21:32 What we talking about here is teamwork. Because while he's on the road, I got needs. Yeah, that's real. While you're doing things, I need to be seen. So true. Text me when you land. Ask me where I am. Bug me throughout the day.
Starting point is 00:21:44 I'm the same with my needs. I wanna be loved. be loved on love me like this don't love me like this Because if you love me like this we got a problem love me like Both ways yeah in and out the bedroom. Let me like this. Yes, that is hilarious Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
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Starting point is 00:22:22 Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. and some of my girls, we've been talking about questions, the wildest questions that we've been asking, some turn offs. What are some questions that you feel are important to ask on a first date when you're like, okay, this is going in the right direction? This is such an unpopular opinion, but when I said all the women tend to go,
Starting point is 00:22:36 yes, yes, I feel the same way, but he said I was insecure. I always ask, how do you feel about your woman having your password to your phone or to your laptop and having full access? That's the first thing I wanna know. Because again, being loved like this means we're orbiting. It means I have access.
Starting point is 00:22:54 And I'm not allowing you to access my body if I can't access your shit. I'm not doing it. I have not and I won't. And so that's the first question. And what are the answers? Oh, I've had some men be like, like password to my phone. Like, I just feel like, you know, if you're going to trust me,
Starting point is 00:23:11 then you trust me. You don't need to have access. And in my personal experience, I go red flag womanizer. Red flag womanizer. And womanizer just means you got something going on. You're manipulative, you're sneaky, you got something that you're not transparent about. I am not into honesty, I'm into transparency. I don't wanna have to ask you 15 questions
Starting point is 00:23:32 to get you to be honest with me. I like transparency. Baby, I was on my way home and I got an email from my ex-girlfriend and I forwarded it to you, this is what she said. Okay, daddy, you hungry? I got dinner cooked, that's me. I don't wanna have to ask you anything because I'm not the woman. Okay, dad, are you hungry? I got dinner cooked. That's me. I don't want to have to ask you anything
Starting point is 00:23:46 because I'm not the woman that see. And because I'm not going to sneak and go through your phone and I don't want to, I'm not going to try to learn your password. I need to make sure that I have full access because in my last relationship, I had full access and I would sit with him in bed
Starting point is 00:24:01 and be like, babe, let me see your phone real quick. And he would just go. Now sometimes, because I bed and be like, hey, let me see your phone real quick. And he would just go, now sometimes, cause I think he knew like, okay, I think in his mind, knowing my personality, he was like, either she's doing it to flex her control. I'm just being transparent and being very accountable. Or like, babe, like how many times you need to look at my phone before you reassure it.
Starting point is 00:24:20 I'm just speaking real from what I felt a man would think. Right? But he would always go right to the game. And sometimes I would joke and I would be like, nervous? You nervous? And this is even like two years in, and when the big rock on my finger, we engaged. The wedding is like in two months. And he'd be like, oh, he'd be like, you look in it anyways.
Starting point is 00:24:39 I know you do. But he also had access to mine. And so if the phone rang up- Did he look at your phone? Well well if I'm in the shower, he'd go, your mama call him. So you're looking to see who calls. Or sometimes I say, baby, text her back and tell her this and that. I did that for one of two things. One, I wanted him to text mama back. Right. But two, I wanted him to know I'm reassuring you too. And you can text back, you can respond. You have that access, you have that authority.
Starting point is 00:25:05 You're my man, you're mine, we're getting married. And I'm transparent. And if there's something you see in there and we need to talk about it, I need to shift, I'm willing to shift it, no big deal. But luckily, knock on wood, with both of my engagements, with full access, I've never ran into anything, I've never seen, I mean, I've had access to Facebook,
Starting point is 00:25:24 pages, social media, but for me, I've never seen anything. I mean, I've had access to Facebook, pages, social media, but for me, that is my reassurance. And I like that type of access. And so again, on the first date, if a man is like, no, that ain't me, then I don't just walk off the dinner. I mean, I'm mature, but I do understand that that's not my type of guy.
Starting point is 00:25:41 And I've had men follow up like date number two, and I say, like, I don't wanna waste your time. I am a woman who's access woman and I just would never even be intimate with you if I can't access what's going on because if there is a disease or if there is something coming from someone, it's in that phone.
Starting point is 00:25:57 It's in that phone. And I'm not playing with my body. I'm not playing with my heart. And so I'm good. I love that. With your engagements and you are still a woman who wants to be loved, who aspires to be in a relationship. What kept you still wanting that?
Starting point is 00:26:13 Because I know some people when they've been engaged and maybe it didn't work out that happened twice for you. What kept you saying, no, I still want love? You know what's crazy, Crystal? And again, I say this with all the compassion for the women who have been left. I think if I was the one being left, I probably would be on the other side of the emotion. I probably would maybe feel a little disempowered or kind of like, what am I not doing right or why me?
Starting point is 00:26:41 But being that I was the one that was pursued, obviously, and I pursued back once I wanted them, and asked, and chosen, and chose back, and then I did the leaving, and I called off both engagements or both weddings. As crazy as it sounds, it gives me leverage. It puts me in a position of power, not a power where I'm taking advantage of, a power of I did the leaving,
Starting point is 00:27:07 so I'm still the woman who was desired, pursued. They still wanted the relationship when I left, and I didn't leave because they weren't great men. I left because they weren't my men forever. And I wasn't gonna continue to be in a relationship, even with my last fiance, where I was fully taken care of. I didn't pay a bill, buy a grape. I made sure he had food, I was cooking.
Starting point is 00:27:28 I was definitely fully submissive to whatever he needed, which I loved, by the way. I loved that, I loved that role, just so you men know. I loved that submission role. So he could take care of me any day. But I still wasn't gonna stay and allow him to take full care of me, right, knowing that I didn't wanna be with this man. I wasn't staying to use him.
Starting point is 00:27:48 I wasn't staying to be taken care of. He didn't take care of me because I didn't have my own. I was a doctor already. I had my own money. I had my own reserves. And I also didn't need him to support me in the sense of once I left, he was giving me money to leave.
Starting point is 00:28:02 No, when we left, we left. And my last text message to him was, I left the house. Thank you for taking such great care of me. I am so grateful for you. Continue blessings. And he texts me back and said, same to you. You know, thank you for everything.
Starting point is 00:28:20 Continue blessings. It wasn't better, but I thanked him because what he, he, that man took care of us. I mean, like literally was a retired basketball player and was doing okay, but went and got a second regular job, Crystal, to make sure he can fit me into his world. And to me, that is just so just admirable. And when you see a man put in that much effort, my opinion is, I don't care how alpha you are,
Starting point is 00:28:50 you peak your submissive. And that was my first time where I literally, organically, my alpha was like, doormat, and my submissive was like, fully-flamed. And I fell in love with me probably more than he did because I was like, oh, this soft submissive woman, she's everything. I love this. And yeah, anything he needed. He I was like, Oh, this soft submissive woman is she's everything. I love this.
Starting point is 00:29:06 And yeah, anything he needed, he can come home at 12 from working out. And he's like, I'm hungry. I'm like, what do you want? No problem. Put my little gospel music on. And I'm in that kitchen at 12 AM cooking, having a good time.
Starting point is 00:29:17 So they do exist. But you just have to make sure that you're choosing what works for you. At what point were you like this amazing guy, he's doing all these amazing things, going the extra mile to get the extra job. What was it that you were like, this isn't my forever person?
Starting point is 00:29:34 Because it sounds like a great, great guy. And this is where y'all gonna eat my ass up. And I'm okay with that, okay? I'm okay with that. I actually love myself. So I don't date men with kids. And he knew that when we first started dating. I obviously knew that he had two beautiful young daughters,
Starting point is 00:29:59 but we still both continued to pursue each other and ended up in a relationship, ended up loving each other and engaged. And we would sit in bed, Crystal, I'm not, we'd have the most amazing day, things would be good. And I would just lay in bed and I say, babe, and I'm like, baby, he's like, yup.
Starting point is 00:30:18 I'm like, I'm having those feels again. And he's like, what? And I'm like, I love that we're a family, because we were, like the girls would come and we'd have dinner, I'd cook, you know, and so, but I'm like, I love our family unit, it's not your girls at all. They did nothing derogatory to the relationship.
Starting point is 00:30:38 I mean, he made it a breeze, there was no baby mama drama. I never even met their mamas, the oldest daughter would talk to me about her mom and some concerns they would have and I would totally facilitate it, be open. I would work out what his girls eat. I mean, it was never them.
Starting point is 00:30:53 And even after we broke up, me and his daughter, she still kept in contact. But I said that to say, I would say, it's not you, it's not them, it's me. My spirit isn't letting me go against my values of what I don't want. I come from a father who has six of us by five different women, and since I can remember
Starting point is 00:31:14 speaking and thinking, I used to say, Daddy, I love all my siblings, but I don't like that you did this with five women, and I don't want that. And my ex-fiance had two beautiful girls by two different women. So you were seeing the pattern. And my dad was like, baby. Remember what you said.
Starting point is 00:31:31 And I know you think he's different because there's two, he's not. Why, ooh. He's not. Daddy. He's not. So I told you, you know, we had this agreement and I was like, but daddy takes care of me
Starting point is 00:31:43 and he loves me and we're good. And my dad was like, baby, I'm telling you, hold off on the wedding, hold off. And so we had these conversations. And when I learned that there was nothing he could do to shift how I felt in here and it wasn't his responsibility to shift me, I had to be authentic and really show my love for him
Starting point is 00:32:02 and say, I can't be married and have kids and it's continued to be this burden on us. And you try to facilitate it and through a lot of those spaces, it will cause some conflict. And he wasn't always able to have the emotional intelligence needed to totally facilitate us through certain things.
Starting point is 00:32:23 And so I started saying, you know, well, what if I become, when I am pregnant, when Mary and I are pregnant, and I'm having these moments and he's not able to facilitate me, he's shutting down for four or five days and we're in the house together. And mind you, he was 14 years older than me.
Starting point is 00:32:38 And so in my mind, I'm thinking, which most of us think, older man, the maturity is gonna be there, he can facilitate this. That's not an age thing. That's just an experience and wisdom thing. And to his defense, you know, I believe he tried his best to, but when it came to us having friction,
Starting point is 00:32:56 the second part of it was, he was still very into that unemotional intelligence where girl we go five days without talking in the same house. And I said, baby, I can't be married like this. So two things, it was duality of you have these beautiful girls who have nothing to do with my decision, it's all my values and what I want. And the other thing is you're not able to problem solve
Starting point is 00:33:18 and bring resolve quick enough in this house and I want peace. Now, do you think that if he didn't do the whole, I can go five days without talking to you, do you think you could have maybe let the, having the kids slide? Because you love the girls. They love you, clearly still have a great relationship
Starting point is 00:33:34 with them. Is that something that maybe if that was strong and the communication and maturity was there, that you could have kept that relationship going? I think, I think, no. I think God would have found a gentle way like he did in this relationship to sever it because God knows my heart. And like he said, I know the plans that I have for you,
Starting point is 00:33:56 plans to prosper you and give you a good life. And I know that he knows a good life for me is me, my husband and our babies. And he, God built me. So he knows how he built my little territorial self. And he knows that I don't wanna look across the room and see my husband as selfish as it may sound for others. For me, it's not selfish, it's me.
Starting point is 00:34:18 I don't wanna look across the room and see my husband engaging, interacting with someone else's child. That's not mine. The second thing is I'm a type of woman that if I'm with a man with kids, I'm fully invested. Those kids will be treated no different than my kids. I will love and invest in them like their minds. And just like when him and I, when I caught off the wedding, I left. He got to keep the family. I left as a single woman having to go create my own family.
Starting point is 00:34:48 So that's an investment a lot of women and men make where they're coming in and being step mom or step daddy. And if that relationship ends, those kids are not yours. It's very rare that those kids roll with you. When mom or dad gets another relationship, guess what? It's the next step, mommy or daddy. So where did the return on your investment go? Right, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:08 So I wanna ask you this because as we get older, the chances of having children and like it gets less and less and less. Have you ever had thoughts of like, dang, like, you know what I'm saying? I want this thing, but is this even possible the longer I wait for this man who doesn't have children? That was one of my ultimatums.
Starting point is 00:35:29 I was like, I don't want anybody to have kids. Like, I was in college saying that, and my- We might be kindred sisters over here. Hold on, let me find out. Right, I used to think like that. I don't know if it was my mom or a friend of mine, someone, I was in college, and I was like, I do not want anybody that has kids.
Starting point is 00:35:45 I just saw the baby mama drama and I did not want them. Like you, my father has four kids by four different women. Yeah, so, but my father is an incredible dad and someone had to point that out to me. What an amazing father my dad is. And could you not love someone who has children? That changed my mindset and perspective on dating a man with children because of how amazing my dad was, how he honored my mother with the other women to make sure
Starting point is 00:36:15 she never felt inferior or that there was still anything going on because you know you have those issues too. So I changed my mind on that but as a woman and we're getting older, how do you wrap your mind around I'm still holding on to wanting to date somebody who doesn't have kids when that opportunity for us naturally is fleeting? Two things. One, I've dated my first fiance had no kids. Look how good God is.
Starting point is 00:36:38 He gave me all the experience to choose. My first fiance had no kids. My second one had kids. Two totally different men. The relationship with no kids is more the relationship for me, regardless. And so through my experiences I know the no kid guy, that's my guy. I'm able to be fully open, fully present with him. That's my thing.
Starting point is 00:37:03 I just have to have that. That's a non-negotiable. The second thing is, you know, faith is an action word. And, you know, I was a little girl in the inner city, a product of two parents who were teenagers. My mom was addicted to the drug that my father sold. And she's now sober, thank God.
Starting point is 00:37:21 And she's killing the game. VP of my company, got her own business. She's just doing her thing. And my father has transitioned last year, he passed away, but before he passed away, he was a family man, he was a longshoreman, A-book, he was working, so he transitioned out that lifestyle. I say that to say that God took a little girl in the inner city with abandonment issues and took my broken pieces and made peace from me. He took a little girl in the inner city and took me from the hood to the hills. And there hasn't been one promise he hasn't one kept or doubled down on.
Starting point is 00:37:51 And so when I had that conversation with God, he checks me and he says, I'm confused. How much more do I need to do for you to trust that what you want will prevail? How much more do I need to do for you to understand that maybe it's your career that I need you to do right now because if you have that husband, the type of woman that you are that loves the way you love, you might just put this career aside and I know how you are and so let me do what I do if you're going to be in my will and because of my faith in him and the way he shows up every day, I will be completely dishonoring him and myself, completely disrespecting God and myself to believe or disbelieve that the desires of my heart
Starting point is 00:38:34 won't come to pass. And so I'm that woman, I understand Abraham and Sarah. You know, I'm not saying I want to wait till I'm 80, but what happened with Sarah? She wanted a baby and she wasn't bearing, right? And Abraham was 80 and she said, we're going to have a baby with the maid. And as soon as he got the maid pregnant, Sarah ended up pregnant. And God said, you just couldn't wait a little longer. And then when the maid got pregnant, Sarah said,
Starting point is 00:39:00 get rid of this, excuse my language, but she got to go because now I'm bearing your child. And Abraham was such a G and such a good man. And Sarah, he told the maid good day. God had a conversation with the maid in the desert and said, listen, you go back because you don't know who you carrying. Maybe, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:22 You go back. You carrying what Sarah was supposed to carry because Sarah couldn't wait for me. Baby, I'm not, listen, ain't no maid finna be pregnant with my blessing. I refuse and I believe and trust that when it's right, it'll happen. And I really know that that is what allows me not to react or be in despair when I'm dating. That's what gives me the verticalness of being able to stand vertical in what I want and not waver in it. Because God's like, what you wanna do?
Starting point is 00:39:57 Cause you gonna get your blessing either way. You either gonna get it after the maid gets it, or you gonna wait and have what you want? And guess what? I love that. I'll wait. I'll wait. That's so sweet.
Starting point is 00:40:09 So something similar to that, I was on the Dear Future Wifey with Lateris Whitfield and he asked me about having children. I love him by the way. I know, isn't he amazing? I love Lateris, I love you. Shout out Lateris. And he was asking me about having children.
Starting point is 00:40:22 I said, I'm so sick of people saying, I feel like as a woman in our, women in our 40s, it is the most annoying question is, when you gonna have some babies? You know, and I told him, I said, I'm tired. My answer is just to stay out of my uterus. Like people, I have a friend that literally DMs me like every few months, have you frozen your eggs yet?
Starting point is 00:40:39 Have you frozen your eggs yet? I'm like, oh my gosh, seriously. And I told him, I said, I'm in a space now where I've waited too late. I went to the doctor and she was like, it my gosh, seriously. And I told him, I said, I'm in a space now where I've waited too late. I went to the doctor and she was like, it's too late to freeze your eggs because you don't wanna freeze them. And then only one may survive.
Starting point is 00:40:53 And she said, so at this point, you just try to get pregnant naturally. And I was like, okay. And same, I've used the Abraham and Sarah analogy exactly like you did. And I said, you know what, where I am and where my faith is, if it's meant to be, it will happen, you know? And it's gonna be a healthy pregnancy.
Starting point is 00:41:11 The baby's gonna be healthy and live a great life, but I can't put that pressure on myself. But I do feel like because of same way, I literally said this, we may be twin, where have you been? Because I told a friend, I said, you know, I used to pray like, God, I have everything, but this one component, like, why am I missing the love? Like, I want somebody to share this beautiful life with.
Starting point is 00:41:32 And it would, I'm telling you, I would like, sit in my room and be really sad, walk into this big, beautiful home, sad to not have anyone to share it with. I would say the big home, but feeling homeless. Baby, it's a real thing. And I was sitting there and I was like, but I knew, I was like, God literally said,
Starting point is 00:41:48 if I brought you that, I know how you are. I'm always like, what you need, what you need, what you need, how can I help? And I would have been putting so much into that person that I would have let my career go by the wayside. That would have been, and I look back at relationships and I'm like, dang, I wonder what it would have been like it wouldn't have been like this.
Starting point is 00:42:06 You know, because there's amount of energy that you have to put into your career to get to the level that you wanna get to. So I'm with you on that. That's good. Yeah, and I'm awake. God blesses the bold and he blesses at the level of our belief.
Starting point is 00:42:19 He does, yeah. And so anything that we want, I feel like once we pray and every thought and every words of prayer, prayer is not just this. I feel like it goes out to the download system and it sits there waiting for our belief to align with it.
Starting point is 00:42:32 When our belief aligns with it, it downloads. And I used to, I was poking at God more like, I think maybe about 10 years ago or so. And I was like, why are you taking so long? And I was, I'm not gonna lie, I was actually mad at him. I was mad and I said, I'm mad at you. And he's like, well, let's talk about it. I wanna talk to you, cause I'm mad at you. He's like, well, woman, I created you
Starting point is 00:42:56 so I know exactly what to say. To get you to talk to me and I was like, you do. And so we had this conversation and he said, what have I told you to trust me? That I know where I'm going with this and that I just, I know your heart, I know the plans. And I said, I commit to trusting you. And he said, listen, you've always said that you want,
Starting point is 00:43:22 you didn't wanna be, I always use Kobe Bryant, because I love all my favorite players, rest in peace. You always said you didn't wanna be Kobe Bryant's wife. You wanted to be Cheyenne Bryant, who's married to Kobe Bryant. He says, so let me establish you. And you know what it says, right? It says, those who wait upon the Lord
Starting point is 00:43:43 will renew their strength. He said, I will establish you and make you perfect. You'll mount up on wings like egos. You're walking, I get weary, you're running, I faint. Baby, I'm doing all those things. I'm doing all those things. And I'm more vertical and more healthy than I've ever been. I told my best friend about a month ago,
Starting point is 00:44:02 I said, girl, I'm the healthiest I've ever been. And I'm not just talking about like, because I got, you know, money and consciousness before even all this viral shit even happened. I was like, girl, I'm the healthiest I've ever, I've never felt so full. And I wanna tell the women, my prayer was, God, okay, if you're gonna have me wait, no problem,
Starting point is 00:44:21 but can we negotiate? And he said, what? Because he knows how I am, he's like, what woman? I said, can you just fill me up, top me off, as though I already have the husband, as though I already have the kids, so that the despair in the term world doesn't cause a conflict where I can't show up in your will.
Starting point is 00:44:41 I wanna show up full for you. And he said, Beth, you got a deal. And I'm not playing, I have been filled up and topped off as though the husband and the kids, I've been so full, so full and this has been for the past maybe three or four years, I just been full. And so I don't feel the lack of there not being a presence of my husband and my kids, I'm on full.
Starting point is 00:45:02 So by the time the husband does get here, I'm choosing again from my fullness. I'm not choosing from my deficit. And you gotta do it. I'm telling you, anything you ask, you do. I'm a living witness. You do it. And so, you know, to your point, it's funny the doctor told you, you're too old. The doctor been telling me, let's freeze your eggs. You have eight follicles over here and you have 11 follicles over here, let's do it. But see, and then that's what I mean by just people going to get expert advice on certain things.
Starting point is 00:45:35 It's like, you gotta get a second, third opinion. Because, right, and I haven't frozen, but my doctor's like, you're 42, I'm like, I know, freeze, you got follicles. I'm like, I know, freeze, you got follicles. I'm like, I know. Even that process, people don't talk about how hard that is on the body, going through that. It's a lot.
Starting point is 00:45:52 The hormone shots, they have to put your body in the phase as though you are, yeah. We don't talk about that. And everyone's like, just go freeze your eggs. I'm like, you want me to, that's a whole process that I have to put my body through while I'm still trying to function. To put it dry and you can see the eggs are pulling out. Yeah, it is. that's a whole process that I have to put my body through while I'm still trying to function. To put it dry and you can see the eggs are pulling out. Yes, it is.
Starting point is 00:46:08 It's a lot. I know. You know, so if I do decide to do it natural without the iron froze eggs yet, but I do know that I told God, you know, we'll see if God aligns with my plan. He usually does it, but I tried it. I tried it. I did say by the end of next year, I want to be in a place of where I'm doing the do with someone who is going to be my forever do. And we're just in our baby making season. But I told God I don't want it until it's on his time. But to sustain me, keep me topped off because I love it here. I just, I love it here. So I'm like, I keep it here. And I, and I, it's easier for me to stay directly in your will.
Starting point is 00:46:48 Yeah, I love that. It seems like one of your nine negotiables, which is having a man who has children kind of also is in direct line with the broken homes that you talk about. And I saw you first, my first introduction to you is on Cam Newton's show. And you talked about broken homes
Starting point is 00:47:06 and broke that down to him. What was it that you saw with your father in your childhood that made you say, hey, I do not want to repeat this? And then also what are some things that we can communicate just to help communicate better about that so that we can try to, I know it's gonna be hard to like stop
Starting point is 00:47:22 because it's so deeply rooted, but what are some things that we can help our black families understand how we can try to, I know it's gonna be hard to stop because it's so deeply rooted, but what are some things that we can help our black families understand how we can break this cycle? Yeah, I love that. Similar to your father, my dad was just the daddy of the year. He was, again, a street dude, and so I'm a product of a street dude.
Starting point is 00:47:42 At that time when I was young, so he was providing for sure because we of a street dude. He's at that time when I was young. So, you know, he was providing for sure. Yeah. We had the street money. You're right. Listen. He was definitely protecting because he was a very well-respected OG in his neighborhood. And so the provision, the protection was there, but he was a womanizer. He always had multiple women.
Starting point is 00:48:04 He didn't hide that to me or my siblings. He wasn't the daddy who would, you know, hide his hand but tell you something else. He was very transparent. And what I love most about him is he would always tell me, if a man looks like me, speaks like me, smells like me, does anything like me, no.
Starting point is 00:48:20 Red flag, do not date him. It's a no and you damn sure better not bring him home. Because somebody will end up dead or in jail, don't do it. And I stuck to that, but I remember there was one time I was dating a guy and he was a street guy and everything was like and I was like, who daddy? And he did give me the daddy vibes, meaning my daddy vibes.
Starting point is 00:48:41 And I remember my dad seeing a picture and was like, no. And my dad called me every day, Crystal, for two weeks. Two, three times a day. Get rid of him. Get rid of him. Of course I got rid of him. But it wasn't because my dad said it, it's because my dad was right.
Starting point is 00:48:55 He was right. And so for me, I just feel like when you start to create all these houses that are homeless, I think it's a self projection of men who are overcompensating for what they've been missing. I think that they are projecting onto all these houses, which is a whole generation of kiddos and women, their mommy issues, their daddy issues,
Starting point is 00:49:16 and their own inadequacies. I think it's unfair to the kids. And no matter how good of a father you are, just like your father, you can't be in the home with all of us. And so I'm not waking up on Christmas morning with you. I'm still having to either travel to you, right, or you to me.
Starting point is 00:49:33 And it's just unfair to all the other kids. There's seven of us and we're all, you know, close for the most part. My sister, who is not, she's my father's daughter. She's not my mother's daughter. She's at my home now with my mom, staying there because she lives in Vegas, but she has a new job in LA.
Starting point is 00:49:50 And she calls my mom mama. My mom cooks for her. My mom cleans behind her. My mom packs her lunch to go to work, Crystal. My mama, they go get massage. When they FaceTime me, it's her and mama. And so I love, this is where the oxymoron comes on. It comes out, I love that it's seven of us
Starting point is 00:50:08 and I love that I'm the oldest. And I love that my mama is the mama to all of them. But I tell my mom, you have to be built a certain way to do that and she always says, yeah, but I was the first baby mama. That's what I'm acknowledging. And I said, that's right mama. She said, if I wasn't the first, I wouldn't have did it, Shy.
Starting point is 00:50:25 She said, so mama agrees with you, go get you a man. Like I thought I had with your dad, where there's no kids and start your own family. She said, all I wanted was a family. Didn't know he was gonna go out and have multiple kids. So I just felt like it's a disservice to everybody who's involved until everyone gets to a place of maturity and becoming older and we're able to process
Starting point is 00:50:46 how do we blend and how do we all equally get our love and our time with this parent. Yeah. That's right, I love that. So I get it, I totally understand why you do that. You are the president of the NAACP. I am. And we just had an election.
Starting point is 00:51:02 I also worked on Capitol Hill. So yeah, yes. Yay! Girl, yes! I'm really big into politics and I just spoke at North Carolina Central University. Come on now. And the students there were saying that the morale on campus is so low right now. Everyone was really pulling for Kamala to win and now we are faced with our future and what it could be and everybody is really in a low place. What are some tips that you could give our community just kind of help us navigate this because it's so fresh
Starting point is 00:51:34 right now? I love that question. I'm truly honored to be the NAACP president in Los Angeles for things like 12 years now. I was like the youngest. 12 years? I was the youngest president to come in in my sitting in my branch. Yeah. And I was the first woman, we had all male leaderships who did a great job before me by the way. But I just happened to come in
Starting point is 00:51:56 and continue to do their great work. But I think most importantly is the messages to Kamala is that, you know, sis, you ran the best election you could run, but I think that her leadership can't stop with this loss of the election. I think that she has to still mobilize our people. I think she should still be speaking to us as a leader. I think she should still be putting together
Starting point is 00:52:22 different, not policies, but different call of actions for us as a community to continue to be inspired. Leadership doesn't stop when you take an L. Leadership continues if you're really in it for the right reasons. I know she didn't show up at Howard, H.U., which is her alumni, to address those kids and people who supported her.
Starting point is 00:52:44 I didn't think that was a good leadership characteristic, I'm just gonna say it, even though I supported Kamala, I voted for her, I just think that wasn't a good leadership role for her to take, and then she sent a man, a black man out there to do her job, to me, that reinforced the people who aren't ready to have a woman president and a black woman president that says,
Starting point is 00:53:04 look, she sent a man out there to do her job. You see, and so that's the letters, right? Yeah, but I think that that conversation, I think that people like yourself, people like me, you don't need a title to be a leader. You don't need education to be a leader. If you feel passionate about something, you are a leader. Take that passion, create a committee, create a group,
Starting point is 00:53:24 start the conversation, and really start to try to mobilize people around what you're passionate about within your community, and then join your local NAACP branches. Join another organization that you feel is black, brown, minority that can push some things out. And I think it's important that we continue to do that. And more than that though, Crystal, I feel like as a community of black people, not Republicans or Democrats, but black people, we need to become strategic. Listen, I must go there. White people are
Starting point is 00:53:53 very strategic in their politics, they're very strategic in their business ticks. Yes. So they are planning things out. Trump appointed a superior court judge four years ago. He sure did. who was pardoning him four years later for all of his felons. He had someone write up qualified immunity for him as a president. I mean, that's all strategy. We have to become a very strategic community
Starting point is 00:54:20 and not just a very here and now what's going on. Now we gotta start to strategize. Well, who's the next young council woman or man who's black that's gonna run for our local cities? Who's gonna be our next black Senate? Because we also didn't take the House or the seats. Who is gonna be the person who's gonna run for president? I always joke and say it might be me in four years,
Starting point is 00:54:38 but it might be a joke, not a joke. I might have a belly on baby number two, and a husband by then running for office. And I told y'all on the Chris LaRenne show that I was gonna run, go for me. But we gotta figure out, and then when, say Kamala, she didn't get in office, but she needs to set up this young black leadership
Starting point is 00:54:57 and start to groom them. See, grooming sometimes is done in the wrong way. We need to groom in the right, positive way. And strategize who we put in an office from Senate to city council to Congress all the wrong way. We need to groom in the right positive way. And strategize who we put in an office from Senate to city council to Congress all the way through. Even down to police chiefs of our communities. Can we get a black woman? Can we get a black young man?
Starting point is 00:55:15 Someone in their 30s. Let's groom these folks so that they are mobilized, they are inspired to do more and we have to support them. One thing about one of my co-hosts, Bre Renee, she's a millennial, she's always screaming. Yeah, she's always screaming. Everyone supports us. I'm like, girl, y'all just lazy.
Starting point is 00:55:32 But to her point, there are some that are just lazy, but to her point, they do need support. They do need the people who came before them, who are running organizations like myself, who are speaking at big schools, who are going to the capital, just say, all right, so what are you passionate about? Like I told Bre, you can join my NAACP.
Starting point is 00:55:51 I will give you an entire committee to put together. I'll put you on the executive board. What you gonna do with it? I wanna see you run something. And so we have to be able to be willing to put them in position and not be this crabs in a bucket. Because we're not crabs in a bucket. There's room for all of us
Starting point is 00:56:07 and we don't have to be in competition with each other. That's good. And we need leadership. We need leadership more now than ever. Yeah, no, for sure. That's amazing. You also have a book called Mental Detox. And I wanna ask you,
Starting point is 00:56:22 what do you do to mental detox after the day? Say this is like a busy day You got more to do after this at the end of the day. What are you gonna do to mental detox? I either FaceTime my mom or my little brother Shane And if he doesn't answer I'm sending him all kinds of emojis like what the hell you doing? That's my that's my detail I get to poke at him. He's 11 years younger than me or meditating and then what umbrellas all of that is, I put on a good Bishop Jake, sir. I love him.
Starting point is 00:56:51 I don't play by my bishop. Listen. Listen. And if I choose you, I'm rolling with you. I told you, I'm committed like that with friendships. Oh well, whatever going on, Bishop going on, but you my bishop. I put on sermons from 25 years ago,
Starting point is 00:57:04 up until 10 years ago and I play that or I go to a really good Abraham Hicks video on YouTube where she talks about law of attraction and she talks about the belief and your responsibility and she also ties in the Bible verse which is one of my favorite. Think only on these things that are good, that are prosperous and key things that are praiseworthy. And so I remind myself, Shai, would you pray for this? If it's a hard no, next thought. If it's a yes, I penetrate that thought.
Starting point is 00:57:34 And so I go to these, for me, the bishops, and sometimes Sarah, because she's been preaching more for him now, but I'm still a bishop, I'm still like the old school bishop, he just has a way about me, the voice and the presence. I do that. And then, you know, I like me time. I find that it's solitude. So I can sit for 45 minutes just being in my solitude. And I also find that that's a way for me to allow God to speak to me. And the relationship that we have, it's very humorous. There's a lot of, you know, who's your daddy? I told you so and I'm always laughing at him.
Starting point is 00:58:08 And when you build a relationship with God that's past principles, past biblical, past church, past religion, you get to meet yourself in him. The true essence of who you are. And it's really beautiful and it's really light and it's really fun. And that's where you become extremely fearless too. Extremely fearless.
Starting point is 00:58:29 Extremely fearless. I love that. So tell the people what is next for Dr. Bryant. Love that. So I have my new talk show, True Talks on Fox. So Monday through Friday, 8 p.m. Eastern. I have my new book called The Divine Wilderness that should be out next year for sure. It's y'all, 8 p.m. Eastern. I have my new book called The Divine Wilderness that should be out next year for sure.
Starting point is 00:58:46 It's y'all, this book, we use, I'm using, listen, the Moses Journey metaphor with the Red Sea and the promise down the wilderness. Wow, that's gonna be good. Yeah, I'm gonna have to be ready for this book. My goodness. I cannot wait. I have my online hybrid certification program where I certify other existing therapists
Starting point is 00:59:05 and psychologists and coaches and new coaches on how to apply my hybrid modality which is therapy and coaching because I started off as a marriage family child therapist, transitioned into a life coach, psychology expert. So I couple that and it's called a hybrid effects. Anyways, I have my online school that registration has just opened up and we have a lot of students who have taken the course and have really amazing, successful practices where they're healing and changing lives just like me.
Starting point is 00:59:34 They're just maybe not on these huge platforms but they're doing it just as good as me, if not better. I mean, I'm so proud of my students. And so I have my speaking tour every weekend for the next year. What? I am on a speaking tour every weekend. So I am on tonight have my speaking tour every weekend for the next year. What? I am on a speaking tour every weekend. So I am on tonight's conversation speaking tour
Starting point is 00:59:49 coupled with my own Dr. Brian speaking tour. I have my own Chicago outside of tonight's conversation. I have Iowa, I have Michigan again, Detroit, we have LA and this is outside tonight's conversation. But then we also have their tour. So I've co-mingled them too. Wow. Yeah, I have a lot of really stuff.
Starting point is 01:00:05 That's incredible, you are busy. And hopefully, you know, I have the husband and the kids. I'm gonna throw that in there. Keep singing it. God, I'm not rushing you, God, but I am, but I'm not. Right, but I am. I am, but I'm not. But I'm ready, so yes, yes, yes.
Starting point is 01:00:19 That is incredible. Well, I just wanna say thank you so much for taking the time. I have your extremely busy schedule to come sit down and talk with me. This has been such a refreshing conversation. They have been waiting for this. They have been waiting, yes. And thank you for having this platform
Starting point is 01:00:31 because I've watched some of your episodes and they have all been so informative, so emotionally just inclined, so touching. And I stick to the Bishop Jakes and the Abraham Hicks because it's hard for me to learn a lot. I resonate with a lot, but I don't learn a lot because of how much I do read and how much I am doing what I do every day.
Starting point is 01:00:53 But I've learned a lot from watching your episodes, seriously in your podcast. So when they were poking at me to be on the show, I'm like, go tell her, I'm waiting. And I'm waiting. So I'm ready. Oh, I got the memo loud and clear. We heard you.
Starting point is 01:01:08 So thank you for having this platform because whether you know it or not, and I believe you know it, you're changing lives, Crystal, and a lot of women can relate to you. They are relating to you. And you're so vulnerable about just your journey of this single woman and wanting to be a mom. And that is more of our story than a lot of women know.
Starting point is 01:01:26 And you're giving women a space to feel heard, to feel understood, and to feel valued without having to be a mom and you're a wife. And that's huge. We need that. And that in itself is what leadership looks like. Seriously, so thank you for doing that. Thank you so much. I appreciate you. Love you, girl.
Starting point is 01:01:43 Yes, you too. Thank you so much. I appreciate you. Love you, girl. Yes, you too. This has been amazing. Dr. Cheyenne Bryant came through and got us all the way together, as I knew she would. But the part of our conversation that really struck a chord with me was when she spoke about wanting marriage and wanting a family, but knowing that certain things you have to wait on. And she used the analogy of Abraham and Sarah, and in that she also asked God to fill her up in the places that she may have felt empty, as though they already existed.
Starting point is 01:02:15 And I love that. I never looked at it from that perspective. So I want to challenge you, whatever you feel like you may be missing in your life, pray for those things, but also ask God to fill you up as though they already exist. Thank you all so much for watching, and all of your support of the Keep It Positive, Sweetie show. I also want to thank Dr. Cheyenne Bryant once more for being our guest.
Starting point is 01:02:38 To keep up with all the great things happening in season 6, you can follow me on all social media platforms at Love, Chris, or Renee, and you can also follow our show at Keep It Positive, Sweetie. If you want to write into our positive outcomes listener letter, you can send us an email at keepitpositessweetie at gmail.com. In the meantime, in between time, you know what to do.
Starting point is 01:02:58 Keep it positive, sweetie. I'll see you guys next time.

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