Keep it Positive, Sweetie - The Voice Within: Faith, Success & Self-Trust

Episode Date: March 29, 2026

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and this is the Keep It Posit Sweetie Show. Welcome to the Keep It Posit Sweetie Show. show, a place where we heal, grow, and learn together. Today's guest is a Grammy-winning rapper, songwriter, actor, entrepreneur, television host, and now author. With his debut memoir, The Voice in My Head is God, I'm so glad we said him with two chains. Today's guest is someone whose journey has evolved far beyond music, known around the world as an artist, entrepreneur, and cultural voice. He's now stepping into a new chapter as an author with his book, The Voice in My Head is God. In it, he reflects on faith, intuition, family, and the inner voice that guided him through everything from childhood to success in the music industry.

Kids family, please give a very warm welcome to Two Chains. How you doing? I'm good. How you doing? I'm good. Happy to have you here. Thank you for having me. Yes, absolutely.

We first met a few years ago at my 40th birthday. I called everybody named Mama. Do you hear me? Because, you know, it's always like six degrees. In Atlanta, it's like two degrees of separation. I was like, okay, you cool with him. Can you ask him? I really try to get him in my birthday party.

And we finally closed the deal. And when I tell you, to this day, people are saying that's still like the best birthday party they've been to in Atlanta. I ain't know what I was walking into. I didn't know. My friend in the gym. Yeah.

Mark, he was like, man, my sister, man, you know. Shout out, Mark. Yeah. And I showed up and it was just a beautiful crowd. I really didn't know why I was showing up. But I'm glad we did. because I think we build a relationship from that event. You know, I know you was booking me as, like, talent.

Yeah. But then I started learning more about you and what you do. And so then I became a fan of yours. I appreciate that. Yes, it's been love ever since. I appreciate it. Happy to have you here to talk about your new book. The voice in my head is God.

When you hit me about it, I said, oh, we got to have you on the podcast. Yeah. We have, like, it hasn't been official. We have an unofficial book club. So anything I posted, I'm reading my sweeties will go by it. Okay. We're going to add this to the book club. We're going to read it.

Got to get it. We're going to talk about it for sure. Super excited to get into that. But before we get into it, we're going to do a quick game of rapid fire. I want you to tell me the first thing that comes to your mind. Oh, Lord. He's all right. Flats or drums?

Flats. Okay. One thing people always get wrong about you. People say I look mean. I don't think I'm mean. No, you're not. Your go-to late-night snack? Almonds.

Oh, healthy. That's a good one. Okay. See, mine is salted caramel ice cream with pecans. First thing you do when you get back home after a long road trip. You know, hug and kiss the wife, you know, say what's up to the kids, take a shower and get in my own bed. Nothing like your own bed. And shout to the wife, Keisha, who's in studio with us today. Hey, girl. All right. Do you enjoy the studio or the stage? Man, that's so hard. I know. But I think I might.

That's so hard. That's so hard for me. Yeah. Like, I've been on stage just going crazy and just loving the energy from the crowd. I don't look up and thank the Lord. And then I've been in the studio and I don't say something so hard that I don't thank the Lord. So I don't even know. We'll take both up equally.

What is the most expensive thing that you have bought that had you looking at the receipt like, all right, that was a little crazy. Probably, you know, homes, cars, homes and cars. Yeah. Sometimes, you know, sometimes it is crazy. It is. But it's a blessing. Another thing to say, thank you, yeah.

I love that. God is good. So looking back at your journey, going from college part to now you are global success, looking at the little boy in you, what do you think he'd be most surprised at now if he could look into the future and see where you are now?

That I'm still going, that I'm still very much passionate and energetic about, you know, getting up every day and what the day may brings. And still, I'm still enjoying learning new stuff. I still enjoy me new people. So even though I'm growing and maturing, even age-wise, I think internally, I'm excited about life, you know what I'm saying, overall. What does a normal day in two chains life look like? You say you're excited to wake up every day. What does it look like? I don't sleep at night, so I probably go to sleep around maybe like 7 o'clock in the morning.

I get up around 12 or 1. I go to the gym at around 220, 2.30, because I work out with another person that is like taking a lunch break. So it's like trying to get that window in to work out. And then I have a smoothie. Then I shower. Then I eat. Then I pick my son up from school, take him to train. And take him, get some come back, drop him off.

And then I watch basketball. And I might take like an hour nap or something like that. Because I start working every night around from like 12 to 6. I record. I'm in the studio. Wow. And it's very habitual. So it's very just like, I do that basically every day.

I mean, this book tour, this book run has definitely thrown off my gym schedule and thrown off the time that I was using to make sure I get my son from A to B. But overall, it's been so much good feedback from the book, people showing up. You know, it was my aspiration just to, like, affect one person. and man, when I tell you it exceeded that expectation, wow. Already it's not even been a week. And how this young lady just boo-hoo cried in my arms in Dallas last night,

like boo-hoo, like, and how the book helped her. And how she reads it at 7 in the morning, and she plays the audio book, why she read? I'm like, I've never, you know, did it like that. But the audiobook, it's in my voice. Oh, dope. Yeah, it's in my voice. And it's like something that is new and innovative that, you know,

and I don't know anybody that has production in their audiobooks. Like my audiobook, you can actually hear the scene that I'm describing that I'm reading. Yeah. Five. That's five. Yes. Yeah. So it's like that.

I just brought something different. It's like, man, I still took elements. from the, you know, me being, you know, our artist, a musician. And, you know, you hear albums and they have skits and stuff in it. So when you're reading a book that sounds like it could be a skit, why not have the, anyway. So I know y'all are going to take that. You can have it. This is what I do.

I come in the game. I leave something behind and y'all try to act like I ain't do it. Right. We heard it here first. Yeah, I've never heard of that. But I do, I read books and listen to audio because sometimes, I don't want to put this on, but I may have a little ADD. Yeah, I hear that a lot.

What they do to us? Like, why does everybody say that? I hear this, I hear this every day. I hear, I hear this every day more than I hear somebody saying, excuse me, and thank you. Uh-huh. I hear like, man, I got a little bit of. A little bit of, somebody just can't lock in sometimes. Yes.

So you do the same thing, you do audio and read. I do that with my Bible. Like when I'm reading the Bible. Yeah, I listen to it on the Bible app where it's reading and I'm reading along with it. Okay. But it helps me stay locked in. I can see it there too because I think sometimes, so even recently sometimes I just, I might just take the Bible. It's a little, I'm sure I'm not the only one to do this and just open it up and like God, like, what it reads something from here, right?

But if it's like hard, like some words that's like the language is what I'm saying. Yeah. Sometimes. I feel you. Yeah. So I think that way. And I do know they have other little. literature that breaks down stuff in layman terms.

Right, yeah, and that's what I need. But no, I love that. So I understand why she does. And I think that's dope that she listens and reads it. Like, she's really getting it. I got to listen to that because I love how you added the elements of production into it. It's so hard. It's so hard.

Wow. I'm about to take this to another level, man. I just feel like this is a real New York Times bestseller. It will be. The voice in my head is God. It's something that I actually struggle with really even talk. about because I'm not I mean I'm sure when I when I when I when I trace it back to it it got to be intuition before then I'm thinking I just got a voice in my I'm really just

think because I'm really hearing something that's telling me to go this way or put that on or walk over there and like it's been navigating me a lot and when I follow that voice it leads me ultimately leads me to success yeah so I started talking to people right like it's and then it's like subconscious then it started going back to like it's really something that we all have which is intuition is about when you like when you find it when you become tapped in yeah and with the chapter i got in there called women of superheroes and my and my book is solely opinion-based right i didn't research y'all you know like reading my book is like purely my beliefs yes in your experiences and so i do believe women of superheroes so i just like like the thing that's the thing that's

things my wife know before I have my mom. And they do it unconsciously, but I feel like women are just in tune to intuition before men. They mature before men anyway. Yeah. No, that's crazy. When you look back at your younger self in your book, The Voice in My Head is Guide, which is I love the title. You talk about how the voice in your head is guidance that everyone has access to.

if you just slow down long enough to hear it. How young were you when you realize, wait a minute, this is God talking to me? So I don't put God, I don't put God to it too, super recently. So what happened with the book is I wanted to write a book about something, not just an autobiography, and I wanted it to have some type of substance. And I also wanted it wanted to tap into an audience outside of hip-hop. So me having the concept like intuition, I'm telling some stories. And when I tell the story and I trace it all the way back, it's a voice that told me,

boy, you ain't got no business going. It told me before I got there or it told me to do. So a lot of the stuff I thought about was either like whether it was a trauma or even a celebration. I trace it back in my mind. And it literally, and so then I started. But then you start hearing you made an image of God and God is in you all this stuff. And then another thing that I felt like was super relatable to people is like how we say, you know, man, something told me I was going to run in.

Oh, you feel somebody. You mean, you know, I just feel like what if that is like whatever you believe in, obviously, but what if that's God, like in you, like whispering or whatever, just saying like, man you know this ain't it's time to go it don't mean somebody to shoot the place up but sometimes it's time to go or something like that I'm like somebody that just abruptly like my team just be like what you're going what we're doing you know I just get up yep out of here yeah and when I don't do it let's talk about that bro I say man I knew I should have left it just it happened to me not too long ago I thought

I was going to miss something so I'm sticking around yeah before I knew it and I don't turn the lights on at a part. I don't like that kind of part where it lights and everybody sitting around looking crazy. Yeah. Then, you know, you know, then they're saying we're going to start the part about the whole time. I said, man, I should have been left this point, you know what I mean? So that's something about a club. I'm just saying in general and in life. Yeah, no, for sure. I definitely can attest the times where I should maybe left somebody alone. Oh, man, women. That's why I say y'all be known. We be knowing. Yeah, y'all be doing. Y'all just do it. Like, y'all, y'all, the, I got I got a chapter called the F-Git voice that women do a lot too.

Like, we do too. The women do that f-f-it-too. But we had that f-f-a-a-voice too, like, sometimes. And when we do something out of the-fack-a-voice, it don't mean that it's always going to be a bad outcome. Right, yeah. Some things could be just like, because we do it off of, like, just impulse.

Like, I want to do this, I'm going to do it. Yeah. The f-a-bois deal with, like, the very, the human part of you, the part that so I say God is love God equals love so if you want to differentiate like the voice

it's like if it got something to do with like love in it this may be him whispering to it. Yeah. But if it got to do what you like crashing out, going to his house, busing his windows out and all that stuff and like you like something I read your book chain. Something told me go over there. I don't went over there. I don't caught it.

Whatever. I don't Like I got to take you that. Like I don't think. I don't think he told you to do that one. Yeah. But we all got that voice and we all got to live off experience too. This book is very much experience base. It's not like a religious book.

It's me talking about God through my experience, my journey. Yeah. No, and you talk about your mother, your grandmother, your wife being superheroes. What was it something that you may have not understood as a child, but now as an adult man you understand about your grandmother, your mother? when you're growing up. You know, your mom are always going to tell you who she feel like is right the right crowds and right places and stuff for you to, you know, be around.

Yeah. Then, you know, we always got to find out on. I mean, we all, you know. Yeah. Mama tell you, when they hit the, you sure, and they just like, and you're like, yeah, my God, you know, thank you you know so much. It comes back. Yeah. But I wouldn't change.

I wouldn't change a lot of the mistakes I made because they got to happen too. The book ain't about like living a perfect life. It's just about taking the time and connecting with that divine guidance, that internal navigation. You know what I mean? It's not about like never making mistakes. Right. For sure. Listen, I always say that every mistake I made has made me the woman I am today.

You know, because you learn from it. It's a lesson. Yeah. Yeah, and I feel like it makes some of the best people, you know, because we can also help other people before they have to fall down that same path. Sure. Yeah. Now, you talk about your dad being incarcerated and always telling you a woman can't raise a man. You touch on that in the book.

Yeah. Let's talk about that. Just raised by an old school kind of man's man, you know, was in the army, used to. do airborne jump out of planes oh wow yeah that was his thing and did a little prayers in time so he was like a man's man so like i tell people i'm kind of from the boys don't cry error like you got to be like whatever it is it's just like you just can't cry about yeah but the part is like when he passed i literally needed like windshield wipers on my eye i cried so much i was like i was bawling yeah i saw her you said um the reservoir

had dried up but then when your father passed. Yeah, I used to be like, man, I'm not, I used to tell my own boy, man, I'm dehydrated, boy, I can't cry, boy. It's like, well, you know what I mean, and I just, what it is, you become numb. Yeah. You become so tough that whatever hurt, you just kind of, you know what I mean? You just kind of like, to my breaking bones and everything, you just kind of, you just kind of, you know, he's just one of them, man, it just sticks with you. But, um, he was a but somebody you know as a father you admire him and then you hear these stories and these tales about him and you know you know what I'm saying you got that DNA inside of you and you know I don't know it's like he was a superhero to me too you know and he stayed with me the last maybe

seven years of his life and we just built a real great bond and he ultimately passed right in front of me at the hospital and it's something I think about all the time all the time all Yeah. Yeah. But I still, sometimes I maybe hear him. Who knows, maybe it's him talking to me. Yeah. But I feel them and then my son has a lot of, I don't know, they just have a lot in common.

Like, and they. You see a lot of your dad and Halo? Yeah, I see a lot of, yeah, I do. So, yeah. That's what I tell everybody like, hey, lo, lo, my best friend, man. Yeah. So much of my pop, you know. I love that.

How did your relationship with your dad? shape how you are with Halo now, especially those last seven years spending with your father. Well, it makes me want to not like skip any time with Halo. You know what I mean? Yeah. I can't imagine skipping 12, 13 years or something like that. Yeah. But it just makes me want to be just be there for them and give them some kind of game and some pointers on navigating life. Make sure I'm instilling confidence in them like, you know, that black boy confidence is, is a, is a, It's a weapon in itself, you know what I mean?

So just teach them how to use that weapon when you're confident in the room and you're just making people uncomfortable as a 10-year-old or whatever it is. You know, just making sure that he's a better person than me. You know what I'm saying? Just like dedicate my life to making sure he's 10 times better. Yeah, no, I love that. I ran to y'all in the parking lot. You go to a season ticket holder at the hog,

so I always admire you when you're with your wife or your daughters, court side and your son. I'm like, that is dope. Like, my dad took me to McDonald's for breakfast. That was our daddy-daughter time. I'm like, court side is different. At least you remember. I'm trying to think, okay, my daddy, let me think,

because I ain't even talking about like he wasn't nothing. Yeah, for sure. Where he took me, that was like our thing. Yeah. Maybe it hit me before. But I think it's important that you create them experiences. Yeah. Like, even the McDonald thing is something like,

it's an experience. Every morning, because he would work nights and then he would come pick me up to take me to school. Get some biscuits or something like that. You can't forget it like that. Because I remember my granddad used to get the biscuits. I'm trying to think what me and my pop's did as a kid. I can't remember right now, but, you know.

But I love what you do with your kids. Like that's so dope. And that daddy daughter time, that father's son time is so important. Yeah. Yeah, man. Like, it definitely shaped the relationship. Like, I still call my dad to this day. Like, hey, what you're doing?

You know, like, that's just like, that's one of my best friends. So did you ever have, because I have two teenage daughters, was it ever a time that you were not like this with your dad? Was it ever like, you always been? Yeah, I feel like when I was in college, I may have, I had a look at a wild phase where I was kind of like, I don't want to talk to nobody. Like I want to do my thing. But as I got older and then just realizing that time is fleeting and you kind of look up when you're like, wait, like, I mean, I had them here that much longer. Man, you're old. Yeah. You be like, now the funny part is when you get the age that you remember your parents was at. And you'd be like, I used to think they was old. Yeah. Because I remember my dad, man.

He used to, man, my dad was like, he would get out. Because my dad was like in the trapping and all this hustling and buying work and selling work. I'll be rying with him. He had these cut off joyous jeans short. and damn there no shirt on him. When he'd get out of that car, I used to get a little like this because I ain't even want nobody to see. Man, I'm like, man, why don't you put a, put something?

What are you doing, bro? That man used to be out there. Hey, hollering at somebody across the street. You're like, man, man, put some, put a shirt on anything. But yeah. Yeah, we got a, you know, I got two teenage girls and they really like, one is on the way to college. And, you know, basically I don't know any know that much.

Yeah. And I can't be that cool. I'm only like two chains. And by the way, like. Wait, so your daughter? Only two chains. Only two chains. Yeah, probably, probably, probably don't even like,

don't even like, don't even need to know that. Wow. And then I got my 13-year-old who is into like drip. Mm-hmm. So that's a way we do connect. Yeah, that's all bond. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

And, but it could be times when, you know, I don't know what the heck I'm talking about either, which is insane. Yeah. I think that's every parent-child situation at some point. And like I said, that college time, like, that's the time where they're trying to figure themselves out. And it's a lot. It's a lot.

Yeah, but you'll be fine. I promise you, it'll be over before you know it, and then y'all be back besties. Okay. Yeah, for short. I hope so. No, for short. He said, I hope so. I love that.

Let's talk about that intuition. And can you share with us a time where you heard that voice and it completely changed the trajectory because you listened, it changed the trajectory of your life just from taking heed to it and then share a time where you look back and you like, I should have listened and what happened in that moment. A time when I listened to my voice is when I got out, like my first record deal.

I just, you know, I ain't know I was going to, make I'm different or birthday. I didn't have these songs recorded. I didn't have anything. I just knew I wanted to be an independent. I wanted to be on my own. You know, it wasn't so much I was leaving the situation to get back in another situation. Right. But I thought I had built enough relationships and learned enough information to try to do it on my own and just woke up one day. It wasn't like a Like it was gradual. Like I kept like threatening to like,

you keep, like, I'm gonna, you know, it was none of that. I just woke up one day and I said, you know, I just. Effing. I didn't say it like this, but basically like a voice told me like I need to be out here doing this. Yeah. You know, and then a time where I,

the time I didn't listen, man, I've been, I didn't got a smack for it a couple times for not listening to that voice. been in the wrong places at the wrong time and I obviously but you know it yeah you know you know you know you know you know you know you just don't it's hard to when you can't see things it's hard to believe something you can't see anyway right so it's hard to believe that run the red light could cause an accident until you can run a bunch of them until you know you cause you cause you cause you cause you cause but you can't see that before it happens.

Right. So that might be a poor example, but that's basically what I mean about, like, you got to, like, navigate off trusting yourself first. Like, yeah. That's, this is how I navigate. I do have, like, somebody I talk to, a manager and all of that, but I start with me first.

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what a 360 deal is in the music industry and why you didn't want to sign that? At the time it was very new, 360s are very prevalent right now. At the time I had so much leverage that, I think, you know, the labels was just trying to get me on the roster at this time. But a 360 deal was created, I don't know, maybe 15 years ago, it's basically for artists that make a stream of income outside of,

it may have to do with music, but say for instance, like, you get paid for like a Pepsi commercial, the label gets a percentage of that now. What happened is, what used to happen is, and I understand both ways, really, when I think about a label, give you somebody to put you on, you shoot a video, somebody says, I like this guy, and they give you a million dollars in the label, like, bro, you wouldn't even know this person,

and we didn't shoot it. So then labels figured out a way to get paid off of artists generating like sponsorships and stuff like that. This was on my first deal. I just had like a, I don't know, I just had a deal that you only can really do when you have leverage. You just can't go in. You know, you don't have leverage. Right now if I had to do a deal, I'm independent right now.

But if I went back and got a deal with a major, I'm positive. I'd be like, this is how I go. Yeah, we need that, yeah. I mean, if I was signed to you, I feel like, yeah, I'm going to look at it. Because you know I'm going to go get a bag somewhere else. You're looking at you, you're looking at you know I'm going to be like, no, well, you're fin to do something. I know you, but I still might use the leverage of, but I'm already this. I might still go back though.

Yeah, yeah. I might pick and choose. I might have to figure it out if I had to really negotiate that, like, I am not like a newbie that if you put me on MTV Awards, then my phone been ringing for a couple decades. It has. Let's talk about that, too. Like how you stay so relevant.

People don't last decades in this industry, and you have found a way to stay relevant time after time. People are still calling you. I've seen you do so many different things. What is the secret sauce to doing that? Listening to the voice of my head. That was good. You set it up.

You didn't even know. You know what I'm saying? Look. It was a less set up. It's so good. I love that. So you did a 50 city tour or 50 state tour independently in a wheelchair. Oh, yeah.

That was crazy. Let's talk about that because most people that you said that voice in your head, people were telling you cancel it. Don't do it. It was there. Like there's another moment where you listen to the voice in your head. And I want to know that at that point in time you were turning down deals. You're like, nope, I'm going to do this on my.

own. It was really like, it was either the voice in my head or the morphine they give you in a hospital. You might have been crazy. They gave you that little button,

you press that button. Right. They say you'd be talking crazy. I don't, broke my leg on Sunday, two-star at Wednesday. These folks are all by my bed. But what are we going to do?

What are we going to do? I hit the button on the moon. Go to sleep again. And, man, I don't know. I don't know if it was a morphine dream or God telling me. Right. But I already got the concept.

Like with the book, this is about intuition, you know. So my album called Pretty Girls Like Trap Music, so I didn't get this whole concept of like trying to make the trap like a positive connotation. So I got like a pink trap house. I got like pretty everything. I'm just trying to like put both worlds together. Yeah.

So something told me. me, something told me. That's what I'm saying. He got to be to me. He said, man, say, but why don't you just get the pink wheelchair and get the nurses to be like background dancers? And I always, Chris, man, I always get like five ideas, bro.

I got a chapter called Ideas Occurrence. I feel like that's, that's like some people, people with no ideas. I'm like, I'm sorry. I like, man, it's got to be hard. It's got to be hard. I came up with this idea and, man, within a day or two, man, the turnaround was crazy. Wow.

The turnaround to get the wheelchair. This, man, I'm putting this wheelchair together where you keep, because I had to keep the leg elevated. And they got like rims on it. And management found like these dancers and they got these little nurse costumes. And I don't have nothing to do with the choreography. They just giving them the songs I'm doing on tour. So I literally meet these dancers that end up touring with me the night of, the show. Like, you know, the one that's going to push me around with you. Yeah, yeah, we ain't did it

together. Yeah, we ain't did. None of it. I'm on, all I could do is kind of sitting in the front and, you know, use a lot of upper. Right. Hold on, but you had an arm too. One of your arms was messed up. Well, well, well, well, listen, my arm, when I, I brought my arm in same night, but they put it back in place the same night. Because it was dislocated. Yeah, it was dislocated. But I go out, I do half the show, you know what I'm saying? I'm making this, you know, all this really like moving a lot. Yeah. And it kind of like made the show go by smooth

because you're not moved, you know what I'm saying, moving back and forth. So sometimes the girl will move me, move me, move me, stop. They do whatever they do, move me, move me. That's fire. And then I because I got the pink trap house on stage. I got nurse.

So in my mind, I'm like, I'm so creative. The fans might think this part of the show. Right. So I stopped the show. I go, yeah, you know, they clap me. I say, man. Yeah, man, I broke my leg on.

Sunday y'all and I still wanted to be here performing for y'all and man I hope I ain't let y'all down but I really right now I can't even walk y'all yeah man them folks go crazy yeah I said oh we about to go get this money I'm like oh they go this it was it was like a I believe in you know what I'm saying being optimistic I feel like man how you turn this around I'm to my I'm sorry I'm so, man, I'm so mad at myself and just, man, it was just a fluke accident. Yeah.

I fell out this four-wheeler, but like, man. That you probably written a million times like, you're a hundred times. Man, I'm just like, and it just happened. And so then you look at like, this assignment guard telling me sitting down from tour. I said, no, man, let me get this money. And then the guy that made the wheelchair for me before the tour over, man, the man, pass away. I never even meet him. Are you serious?

Man, I'm like, this got to be an angel, man. Yeah. He's like, they tell me die from a motorcycle accident. So I'm like, I'll be in my headlight. So I couldn't even put a face with the person who did it because I never met the person. Yeah. So, like, I couldn't even, like, really, like, even really get sad about it. I'm like, man, did God just send somebody to do this in this short period of time?

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. That's how he works. That's crazy. Because so many people in that situation would have definitely like cancel it. I can't do it. Yeah, just take me home. You know, come back.

And we say it happened on people cancel their tours all the time. All the time and don't have a broken leg. I think, I think when they said like, we probably had to get an 11 million back. I think I just was like, no the hell we ain't. We go to work. I think that's what it was. I think no matter what the voice was telling me, that mrs. That mrs.

wasn't going to get nobody to 11 million. It was something like that I heard. You had to get this 11 million. I'm like, to who? we're fin to pull up on these folks. Hello. You're in the dancing, this chair, all tour, and that's what we did, man. Oh, my goodness.

Yeah, that's, I love that story. I really do. So many people chase the success or hope, you know what I'm saying? Just wish they can get to where you are now. If there's somebody out there that's watching this right now, and what you just explain is discipline, it's fortitude, it's just doing it no matter what the circumstances, is what would you tell them any type of advice to try to get to get to where you are if they want to succeed in this industry?

You have to do it though. Yeah. You got to do it. That's good. You got to do it. Yeah. Yeah. The only way it can't happen is if you don't try.

I always say that. You got to. And you know, it's easier to say it than done. I know it's like so cliche to be like of you, but really you have to try. Yeah. You have to try. And some people that do have ideas, it's important that you align yourself with people that can help you bring those ideas to fruition. Because most people that have ideas don't know what to do with it.

Right. Yep. I get that too. But like, I found, like, people around me that I can actually funnel some of this stuff to and kind of bring them the light, the pink, the pink light. But sometimes that would be somebody's idea and they just don't know how to even, who their contact, who. And I'm just, I'm fortunate enough to have, you know, a team that's like, I don't know, like right now, if I need a dancer's tonight, I don't even know who to, much less some just going to customize some nurse outfits and be on point when these songs drop. Like this is, so it's bigger than, it's bigger than just you. Absolutely, yeah.

Your team is everything. I'm with you on that. That's good. Now, you have been very open about your struggles with lean abuse. talked about how you still can't eat any citruses, like lemons, oranges, all the things. How did you get to that? Was it something that you were dealing with? You know, sometimes we, as artists, a lot of times, even successful people, we lean on certain things to suppress whatever we may be feeling.

Was it something that you were trying to suppress at first so you become numb to something? Or did it, was it just like society? You know, because sometimes it's like everybody doing it, it's a part of the culture, you know? Yeah. No, I think my stomach was, when I'm thinking about it now, I think. think my stomach was messed up before I started drinking. They probably made it worse. The drinking stuff, I ain't gonna lie.

I used to make it feel better. Really? Yes, bro. I got a, I got an endo, whatever they call it. They put a camera in your stomach. Yeah. And, man, I would just go days where I would just be feeling nauseous. And I never forget they had this drug.

It was called like Nixium. It was like a sample drug. I've heard about that. Yeah. Yeah, it was like a delay. And they keep giving me. did like these little samples, I never took them. And they do the, they do them.

Until one day I took one. I said, I felt good the whole day, you know what I mean? And so then the doctor puts this, I never forget. I never forget he looked like Obama, bro. The doctor did, bro. And the last thing I remember when he put this thing in my stomach is me saying, bro, you look like Obama. And then I just went to sleep and I woke up and they had pictures of my stomach.

And I had ulcers and acid reflux together. And so I had been drinking a little lean, but I get that picture of like this stuff in my stomach and everything. They're telling me that the prescription is permithazine, but they have to give it to me in a capsule because people are taking advantage of the serb kind. So I heard that. And then I leave. I call on my friends like, bro. because when you get this so with the lean and everything

people don't know it really coming from like a source like a pharmacy it's not like somebody's making it in the tub it's just people abuse about putting it a lot into a drink change the color and then making it so but it's really like a medicine it's for something it's for something right so it's for nausea and some more that's what it's really for I don't know this

I'm just when I drink it I just I keep telling people this is no bullshit this is no boy this is no boy I used to tell my role, imagine, I feel like I'm 18 again. I would drink it, go on stage, jump up and down. Because, you know, like, I'm flying out. I'm, you know, early on, I'm so busy. I'm flying.

I'm doing maybe two flights a day to go here, here, here. And I'm eating something that I'm not used. My stomach has been super weak. So then, like, I feel nauseous again. Like, boom. So I need something. Now I, like, keep some Zophrin somewhere. You know, my mama going to keep some Zof.

from from if I needed or something like that. But my stomach has been like something. And it's probably the way, you know, why I eat so healthy. But, you know, early on I was told I couldn't, I don't, I don't drink no orange juice. Yeah. I don't know. Something that's kind of like, I don't know if you would call pineapples. Mm-hmm.

Now, I can eat, I eat pineapple. I drink pineapple juice, but like lemonade. None of that. Man, I tried a chic filet lemonade about, my, 10 years ago, man, I felt like somebody just, it felt like I did the front was flipped, man. My stomach was, so stuff like that I can't eat. And then I have to sleep on like two pillars, like can't just be laying flat. You know what I mean?

So I have to keep my head elevated. But I don't, I hadn't had like a stomach like relapse in a long time. And I've been stopped drinking like, I stopped drinking the serve stuff. I think that stuff. I think the serve was giving me like a. it was giving me like a little attitude sometimes. Really? Yeah, it had me like a little

growling type thing sometimes. Would you recognize it or did somebody else had to say, hey, you love me. People would tell me, but I think I'd just be irritated. That's why I thought you was beat. Yeah, that's probably like, what you want now? Right. I'm like, damn, come on, hurry up, take the picture.

But I hadn't done nothing like that in a while. I still, you know, self-medicate with the little things I do. But ultimately, man, I'm not even like a really big drinker for real. Same. I drink. I've been on my wine stuff. Yeah.

I try a little wine. I take a shatter. Tequila, but then I'd be kind of like, I'd be like straight. Yeah, chilling, yeah. I'd be had enough. I haven't had enough.

So, you know. Yeah, it was definitely a trend, but it's something. I put the cup down in many, many years. Yeah. No, I love that. And I'm glad you got ahead of it

because a lot of times people don't get to see that side of it. Yeah. So that's good. Yeah. You said you healthy diet, all the things, how important you work out, how important is maintaining that wellness a part of your life to do what you do at the level you do with it? I feel like entertainment is a, what we do is really like another form of sports.

It really, I be telling people that all the time because I was a competition cheerleader. And a lot of the same structure and the discipline that I use in sports, like I use it now. Yeah. It's like sports, bro. You can't just not give a down about what you're putting in. Thank you for going on stage and perform for an hour. You'd be seeing people pass out and all, like, I do a show for a hour. I don't even drink water.

I don't even like for the fan to even think I'm like them anywhere near like a human like them. Like, I'm up there for an hour. They're not sweating. Really? And saying that, I'm in great shape. What else you guys, I ain't up there all? Right. What else guys are you, you know, trying to hold by.

moving, talking to the crowd. You just saw it, I ain't on that. So I take it very seriously about, like, how I condition myself. Because I feel like it's just, you're going to be up all night. I'm going to record. I got to be able to, like, I mean, you know, I should, man, I do. I might sound crazy. I'm stretching everything.

That's not crazy. Especially, we have to. Yeah, that's important. Mobility. I'm going to say, especially, yeah, we, and we're in our 40s. You got to. I'm stretching before I go, man. That's good.

I tell somebody, look, man, how long the stage is. All right. Let me. You know what I'm saying? Because I ain't going to sit in one spot. Yes. You know what I mean? Ain't no telling what I might do once I get up there.

That's where I get the Holy Ghost. So you want to be like. You got it ready, ain't it? I'm going to be ready, man. You're so silly. I love that. I'm Bailey Taylor. I'm Bailey Taylor and this is it girl.

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as Laura Owens has been indicted on fraud charges. This isn't over until justice has served in Arizona. Listen to Love Trapped Podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You talk about in your book how substances can also mute your inner voice. Let's talk about that because a lot of times people feel like, I'm in control. I got it. I know what I'm doing. But what is that muting?

How do you know when that's coming in? Anytime when fear show up, you're going to be just straight off. You fear, ego, all that's you. Oh, that's you. But sometimes you got to have it in our field of work. I think sometimes, not to say that you should just be on set like, you know, a diva or be on stage like a deed. But I think a little piece of ego not bad. The fear stuff, fear stuff, trust issues is another part of like the field we're in.

You kind of gotta be scared. These folks are do all, especially men, especially the men. It's like I have mastered my little side hug. All that. It's just like, you know, so. Yeah. You know, sometimes there ain't no voice. And when you get to just being in your head so much about this,

you're just really going off your own. And that's normal. Yeah. It's normal. Fear is a real emotion. No, for sure. One of the most moving parts that I loved about your book was your father and the ego metaphor. Yeah.

And being a father and letting your child fly. We talked about your daughter. You're bad to let her fly, going to college. But how do you use that metaphor with your children now? It was very interesting. I read that. First of all, that letter was like from 2003. Really?

Yeah. When I was working on the book, it was like it opened up a portal. I was just fine and stuff that was like, I can add this to the book. But I went back, it was these letters from 2003. My father's birthday is on Christmas. So this was around Thanksgiving. It was like all these letters from like the end of 2003. I'm talking about football.

And he started putting these analogies in here. And he telling me, you know, I tell you what, you know, you can call me this. Like, it was just like, first of all, he's so sarcastic. I don't know if he's serious or not. I'm like, man, I don't know. He's talking about, yeah, we didn't. Eagles, man, you know. We saw, I'm Bill Eagle.

And then he's telling me, like, you're this. You know what, my friend? You can call me Bill. And I'm like, what the? But, you know, 2003, it was, you know, over, you know, 20 years ago. So I was at a different place mentally and everything. I'm way more mature and growing. And even looking at his letters and saying God is love on the back of the envelope,

I used to just rip them and get to the letter. I wouldn't even paying attention to the God's love that's written on the outside. But then I thought about what that meant. And it was just right in my face the whole time. It was just saying like, God is like love. Yeah. It was like, what is God? It's like love.

Like, oh. And then like, oh, yeah, yeah, God, because he ain't going to mess with no hate stuff. Like, but yeah. So that's my personal opinion. So that's what I thought it meant. And it took me this long and some old letters to find to put that together to really hit it like. Yeah. Because I've done it just sound like a freak, God is love.

God is, God is dope. Shout out my home, but you're like, God is this. Yeah. Oh, no. So that's what I took from. I love that. So another thing I wanted to ask you about is you saying, like, you're going through these letters, you're fine all these things, and it's been there the whole time.

And you also talk about at the end, people say, I might need, he might need therapy. After writing the book, you said it was therapeutic for you. Yeah, it's my first therapist, man. This book is. Yes. Now, are you open to therapy? No, it can't be that. Because music is very therapeutic.

And then I did a short film called Red Clay. So this might be my third therapist. Okay, got you. Let me reframe. This is my, let me rephrase it. This is my third therapist. Music was my first. It just, and then I did a short film called Red Clay that just took a lot.

And then this book is my third therapist. And they are all different people. They are. It's not like my third. time going to therapy this is my third therapist right that's fire I love that are you open to therapy do you feel like you good I've been going back and forth I don't I don't know I'm still like old-fashioned don't want nobody to take my little edge off yeah I want to be the crazy old man still you know you everybody got them in the family and you know what I'm saying you need that energy

bro somebody got to do it in my mind and I know this probably sounds crazy I hope the therapist really helps me deal me and be like It's not like, but in my mind, I feel like I'm going to come out of therapy and I'll be like, it's okay. You got it. It's okay. You know, you know what? Life is beautiful. God is good.

God is love. Y'all just keep, no, no, brother, brother, sister. But I don't want to, I be wanting a little edge on me just a little bit. Just a little bit. Yeah. And I just don't want them to be like, we're going to fix this. The reason you have this. And what I do have a psychology degree, right?

So I do. I do. Or I have identified some of my triggers. personally through self-evaluation. That's good. I could tell when something like, you know what I mean, and it could be some small stuff, but I could tell like if it's done,

if it's happened to me more than once, I'm like, this kind of triggers me. Yeah. And I can identify with something, and I'm trying to work on that. That's good. That's good. Because some people can't even identify.

Yeah. You've got to know what makes you turn up. You do. You got to know. Yeah, you got to know. And you also, you got to know yourself. Yeah. You say that.

So this season for Kiki Paws, sweetie, our theme is unapologetic. What is Tootene's being apologetic about right now in this season? Apologetic? Unapologetic? Unapologetic. I'm not, I'm unapologetic about, I'm not apologizing for that parking spot where I park for the Hawks. Sometimes I'd be taking up a couple of spots. You do.

I'm not apologizing for that. Period. I'm parking right. When you be seeing me right there, I don't know why they hit me, but I know you can relate because you see me. And sometimes I'm back in there and they have changed. And I, man, y'all, whoever coming, they're going to be out of luck. So I'm not apologizing for that.

I'm a real Atlanta native. I'm a fan. And I literally have to pay for my ticket. Yes. Y'all. So I'm not apologizing for that. I'm not apologizing for saying no. Yeah.

Yeah. Man, you know, you'd be like, man, I'm sorry, man, but I can't do it. I'm not sorry. Man, I just ain't going to do it. Like, that's, that's, and I'm going to say, like, I'm working on this. Yeah. I'm working on saying no without apologizing or giving context on why I can't do it. Because I found myself explaining, man, I got to do, man.

I got to do all that when I'm like. That's real. Yeah. I love that. Speaking of Hawks tickets, you are also a big investor. You have, I just saw something where you invested in SpaceX. You have ownership in, is it the Skyhawks, G League? What made you, like, want to start investing in these different things?

Because I was like, wow, I had no idea. You are a myth. There's so many different things that we don't know about you. Coming from hustling, that's what. That's what hustling and traveling is. You buy this pack. You make more off of it. You put this to the side.

You buy it. You make more. It sounds like people just, a lot of people only get caught up with like what it's doing to the community, which I definitely understand. Right. As a hustler is really an extension of a business, man. You meet somebody. You create a relationship with them. You have clientele, audience, fans, whatever you want to call it, direct.

direct to consumer been doing that. You know, been doing direct to consumer. And then you got to have, you know, you got to go out. You got to meet people. You got to develop, you know, that trust thing. And, you know, and now when I grow up, I'm not, I can't, I don't want to buy a pack or something and sell that. Now I'm going to buy a team.

Investing in, yeah. That's fine. And then also being in the right rooms. And I don't know, maybe. getting the trust of people who who are looking to invest in you know i believe i believe man it's trillions of dollars like that it's this that junk is just is looking for somebody it's looking for people you know what i mean being in the house it ain't going to find you so for me i'm in the room now i'm not just hopping from you know brunch to brunch but i'm in the right rooms yeah and i'm

and i'm me you know what i mean i think it's very important that i'm transparent and i'm me and they like, you know, I like you. When they say they like me, anybody say they like me, I know they're not, they like in the real version of me, because I'm not putting that on. Exactly. They're like, I like you. Like, oh, I'm going to have to keep this personality.

I'm not to remember what personality is right now. Because it's you. You know, man, it's just, you know, I like it. It's genuine. That's who you are. I love that. Two chains, thank you so much. Thank you for having.

Yes, absolutely. In closing, we do what is called positive outcomes where our audience writes in, we give them advice. This is a quick one. Her name is Natina Chapman from Charlotte, North Carolina. She says, how do you chase big goals and success without losing your peace in the process? I'm a dreamer. Yeah.

To this day, I'm a dreamer, and I'm not content. And it's okay to be content. Like, if you finally get your house and your dog or whatever, and you're like, this is all I wanted. That's cool. My vision exceeds that. Yeah. Like, my vision exceeds a glass ceiling. I just right now with the stuff I have and the car, whatever, whatever, it's not like I want more cars.

I just want more life. I want more something. You know what I mean? I don't know what's around the corner. I'm the west out there. But I do seek and I put that energy out there. I'm still fishing for more success, more opportunity, you know. Yeah.

And for me, I would say, Natina, if it is like something that is for you, it's not going to, you're not going to lose your peace over it. It's going to feed it, you know? I feel like anything that caused you to lose your piece isn't something you should be chasing after anyway. Facts. I like that. Look at you. You know, I give a little jewel.

It's so silly. Thank you so much. This has been amazing. I appreciate your time. Guys, make sure you go get this book right now. Listen, get into it. Sweeties, you already know we're about to buy all of the coffees. We're going to make this a New York.

Times bestseller. Please. Two Chains. You think you're going to do another book? Please and thank you. Am I going to do another book? Yeah. Is this the first of many?

Never say never. Never say never. I love it. I could also see like a biopic movie. Oh, listen. I see it. Guess what I'm going to do? Guess what I'm going to do?

What? This is going to really throw you out, through you all. But you've got to know that this is, this is a great idea that I'm trying to put into fruition right now. Okay. I want to do a play. And the name of the play is something told me

in this all chapters of the book and I already got in my head how I wanted to start and everything. So we may have to, I know you know people. You know, we know to say you. I know you be in the rooms and you know people. Yes. But I'm very serious about, and like that's some too jane stuff. Like, you know, we're going to dress up.

Mm-hmm. wine and a real play that has like production and like like the way that I'm the way that because I did like for my maybe what anniversary for true religion made my 10 year anniversary for true religion I incorporated the play within the show like like it was like a play I had somebody playing my mom me me the whole thing wearing true religions the whole thing and just how that went and it was like okay stage play this could be something for me but then like even sitting here with you I was not going to mention it and we was just about to get off and then you said this could be the bio and I'm like short if you only knew what I'm thinking about doing and taking it up or not so yeah like I just want people to just really know that when it's time and you get that invite on putting on something clean that I'm going to have a real experience for you oh we already know it's going to be a real experience and it's going to be something that people are going to talk about for years after that for real like this idea I'm talking about like Broadway. Yeah, but here in the city. Yes. Oh, Fox Theater. That's what I want.

Okay, listen, the voice in my head was just guy. He said it. I said Fox, though. That's crazy. All right, and this is the last thing I'm put out there. Okay. I want Terrence Howard to play my pop. I got to talk loud so he can hear it.

Yes, put it out there. So he can hear it. Because my dad was a little red. a little red. Like, he's just like a little red. You know what I'm saying? But even the way his voice is and all that, he can really, like, he can make it happen.

But like, imagine Terrence Howard doing a play. I ain't talking about for them. I'm to my own stage doing like that. Yeah. So that's how my mind works. You have a brilliant mind and I cannot wait. That's going to be crazy. We're going to be front row and center.

We're going to be able to use this for, like, some type of. archive. We're going to be able to go back and like, some things happen sooner than others and maybe later, but it's something like when I really put my mind to it, like, I'm going to make it happen. For sure. Yeah.

Even if it's not like, I ain't even going to say this. Don't say it. All right, let's do it. Yeah. Let's get out of here, y'all. Yes, we out. Wow. What I appreciate most about this episode is a reminder that growth doesn't always come

from the loudest moments in our lives. Sometimes it comes from learning how to be still enough. to hear the inner voice guiding us. Cheyne's thank you for sharing your story, your wisdom, and this moment with us today. Sometimes the most powerful thing we can do is simply listen to that voice within and trust that it's already leading us exactly what we're meant to go. Thank you for tuning to another episode of the Keep It Positive Sweetie Show. Be sure to grab your copy of The Voice in My Head is God wherever books is sold.

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