Keep it Positive, Sweetie - The Way Love Goes w/ Brat + Judy

Episode Date: February 22, 2026

Host Chrystal Renee welcomes Debra (Da Brat) and Judy to the Keep It Positive Sweetie Show for a real conversation about building happiness on purpose through love, partnership, accountability, and everyday choices that protect home. They share why they’ve been quieter online, expound on motherhood, staying present, and keeping parts of their son’s life private, while still finding a middle ground with content. They talk about having a baby later in life, using Judy’s eggs with Debra carrying the pregnancy, and how becoming parents has softened Debra and helped her let go of survival mode and old habits from being an artist and growing up in Chicago. Judy shares her journey from doing hair as a child in New Orleans to building Kaleidoscope, including how Miracle Drops started after a client returned with damage that needed help. The couple previews their book, “The Way Love Goes,” out February 3, 2026 (pre-orders available), explaining that relationships aren’t always 50/50 and that partners should lean into each other’s strengths instead of fighting for control. They keep it honest about conflicts like jealousy, old messages, and even phones getting thrown, and how they’ve learned to cool down, communicate, and not go to bed angry. They also talk about keeping your identity in a relationship, with Debra encouraging Judy to take time for herself, while Judy opens up about the weight of running a company without investors and having to absorb costly mistakes as the owner. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hi, Cookie. Hi. Now, the Winter Olympic Games are underway, and we are in Italy to give you experiences from our hearts to your ears. Listen to Two Guys Five Rings on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Calling all my sweeties to the forefront, I'm your host, Chris Renee Hazett, and this is the Keep It Posit Sweetie Show. Welcome to The Keep It Posit Sweetie Show, the place where we heal, grow, and learn together. Today's guests are DeBrett and Judy.

DeBrett and Judy are a couple people have grown to love watching, but today's conversation is about what it takes to feel happiness on purpose. We're talking love, partnership, accountability, and everyday choices that protect home. Welcome to the Kip's sofa, De Bratt, and Judy. Hey, ladies. Oh, we're not supposed to. I'm sorry. No, I love that. We need the energy.

That's good. Come on, y'all. Y'all brought good energy for the moment y'all walked in. Good. We try. Yes, my mom. I appreciate it. I have been admirers and fans of y'all's first since y'all got together and then Brad, like, since I was a kid.

Thank you. I don't know if I told you this. And I was like, you know, you know, somebody was like did I say that out loud? I think when I made y'all at Tyler's house I was like I used to write your rap lyrics down on paper and then like I was like Crystal what? No it's okay I appreciate that it didn't seem weird. Okay it didn't okay you know like after you play something you're like was that too much no no you don't bother me at all I appreciate it. No I did. I was happy to meet you that day yes no it was like we have been following each other for a long

time and finally got to put you know exactly no for sure um Judy you have grown a multi-billion billion dollar company empire from your salon roots speak that into existence she said multi-billion that's a billion a million you said billion well we say hey that's what's from our list of guys here yep you said and that's what we're doing that's what you're doing and i believe it touch and agree touch and agree come on all right i'm hey i believe in that power of the tongue but you have done so much and i've watched you grow so inspired by everything that you do like your drops every literally your drops and your drops. Everything is so creative

and I love everything you all do together. Brad, you have had such a legacy from starting out very young, rapping and just so, so deaf. That was like, and still is holding its name to this day. And everything that you have done and how you evolved and grown over the years

is just outstanding and admirable. Thank you so much. No, seriously. Thank you all for taking the time. When I got the call and they was like, would you want to? I'm like, would I want to? Yes.

I love me. So thank you so much. Thank you. Yes, no, you guys have, y'all have been very intentional and, like, out with your relationship and with everything you have going on. I feel like this season has been a little more quiet. Has that been intentional? I feel like motherhood keeps us quite busy.

And then there is a sense of privacy that we want to have with our child. We shared him with the world. Yeah. But then, you know, once he got here and we started, you know, my wife's the first time mom. Yes. So just extra protective, extra everything. So I try to make time away from social media a lot to be more present. And she just don't give a shit about social media at all anyway.

So if I'm not pushing it, she not. It's the truth. Yeah. Right. She, you know, she's in love with being a mom. I love that. Let's talk about that. First time mom.

Yeah. And even the process of becoming a mom. Because I think we're around the same. How old are you? Is it public how old are you? Yeah. So we're about the same age. So for me, I just went to the doctor,

feeling like I've waited too late to freeze my eggs. Talk about that journey of actually having a baby later on in life. Oh, man. Well, I didn't realize that your eggs go south after, like, 40. like 40-ish, maybe even sooner. Some people even sooner. So once I realized that, I was like, oh, no. But then my wife had some good old eggs up in there.

So I was like, okay, we're going to get some of them. So, you know, we were able to get some of her eggs extracted, but she went through a horrible process, but we can elaborate on that, you know, later. But we got her eggs extracted. I was able to be the oven. Yes. And I was able to carry it. You know, I got examined and all that.

to make sure I was good and I was able to carry. At first I was like, carry, I'm not carry. No, no, no, no. Never in a million years when I thought I would be carrying a child. What she said was. Oh, God. Beautiful, you should do it because it's going to slide right out since you had other children. But that's the exact word to you.

As she put this on people, TV, she said that on television. I did say that, but it means that your body has had three children already. So it knows how to open and close and form to have the baby shoot out. She said, it should slide right out. Like you shouldn't have any problems, opposed to somebody who's never had a child before. And not only that, but she is, you know, she's this hard exterior, but she's the most nurturing person I ever met my whole entire life. So I knew that motherhood.

I knew that not only motherhood would be great for her, but I knew the experience of pregnancy. She would enjoy every moment of it. And she did. She did. I'm talking, you know, I shared, I documented the moment when she first felt it moving. And, I mean, she was just crying and embracing it, all the parts of it. I can never do another heart, like, you know. Yeah, no, that's beautiful.

And like, Brad, you are. You're known for your heart, tough exterior. But now I see a softer side of you. Has motherhood brought out that side in you? Absolutely. I think it's brought it out more and, like, doing our show and stuff, having the show so much of vulnerability like that that made me probably like a little softer publicly um i've always been kind of like a cream puff inside but i have preferred to keep it hid until she came along wow

and made it all like come out and then after having our son everything made me cry it's like i'm extra emotional about every especially when i look at him any little thing he does it's just like i'm crying oh my god he's so adorable like you know you just are so proud of every little thing and, you know, yeah, I'm a cream puff when it comes to him. I used to like to keep it under wraps, but now I don't care. I'm old enough to be like, you know, not caring about what people think of me or any of that stuff. Right.

And was that part of, like, the persona as an artist? Yeah. That you thought you had to keep up. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. I was always taught, my grandmother actually taught me, you know, you don't show them your weakness. Come on. They showed them your weakness.

Then they play on that and they pull on your heartstrings. So I was, you know, taught to be a tough little kid growing up in Chicago. Plus, I had to fight. You know, I had to fight all my life. Oh, my God. I had to fight. I've heard Chicago can be a place that really makes you tough for sure. Absolutely, yeah.

Judy, where are you from originally? New Orleans. Okay, so that's another city where, like, you got to stand your ground. No, I'm good. Well, I didn't have to fight growing up. I had my first, like, I had three children before the age of 19, but, you know, so I was into other stuff. So when did you get into the hair business and, like, start,

When did you start doing hair and know that that was a skill that you had? I started doing hair like when I was five. Like, you know, I used to do. My mom always tells the story. Like, I used to, she used to buy me Barbie dolls, and I used to just try to cut their hair and give them a little bob and then cut a little bit short until they ballhead. And then they would wind up with another, you know,

I had to get another Barbie doll. And then I used to sit on my dad's back and just put Borrette's all over his head. So I used to sneak clients and also used to sneak my friends in from school to do their hair when my parents were at work. Wow. So this is something that it was just in you. Yeah. And when did you know that you had something to create kaleidoscope? I didn't.

Really? I didn't. I mean, I like doing hair. I know I always wanted my own salon. When I got my own salon, I used to buy products from somebody that was always coming to sell products. You know, back in the day, they used to have an open floor salon. You know, where, and then people used to come in selling CDs, shirts, food. And so this guy used to come and selling hair products all the time

And he was like, you should make your own And I'm like, I don't want to do that I'm charging $250 for someone I don't want to sell no $5 sprits But he talked me into it and it just so happened To one of my clients cheated on me for another hairstylist She came back with a boss by the middle of head

So I had to grew her head to the middle of her back So even though it wasn't my fault I didn't felt compelled to tell the guy That had asked me that Well, can we figure out something for this? And so that actually birthed. The miracle drops. Oh, my goodness.

Well, thank you for the girl to cheat it because we wouldn't listen. You know, there's a blessing and everything. I love that. Recently, you talked about the importance of boundaries and self-awareness. What is it that made you say, like now you talk about being more private and protecting home? What is it that really made you decide that you wanted to just set boundaries and have more self-awareness? So I think in being with my beautiful, when I first met her, she was. I love the child culture of the beautiful.

That's so cute. She was really reserved, and I've always been 100% open. And I feel like us coming together is, it's me understanding my transparency is my transparency. And her transparency is her transparency. So even though we share a child, I also have 100% full respect for what she felt is appropriate to share and not share with our child. So then it's, okay, yes, we are transparent, but then there are sometimes where we just need to be moms. You know, like I like content creation. That's something that I enjoy doing.

Whether it's the big cameras or whether it's just us doing a quick little TikTok. Right. She doesn't necessarily, I'm not going to say she hates it, but she doesn't like it as much. She doesn't participate in it as much. So it's finding the middle ground of what works best for us. Like when we do our content together, outside of it feeling like, and cheat sometimes. Wow.

Well, okay, so I can get probably two, three hours out of. Okay, maybe two hours. That's good. But that if my son don't want to do it, we don't make him do it. We don't, we don't, like, if he looks like he's in the mood, he's not going to want to do nothing. He's not going to be in it. Yeah.

I do feel a little sense of responsibility, though, since we've given people a peep into our life to give them some update. Yeah. But not as much as I would do with our life and our relationship. For sure. No, I tell you understand that. Brad, you have talked about spending years in survival mode, which is something that I think a lot of people can attest to, especially at the way the world is now. Like, every time you turn around it is something, but like we all feel a sense of like survival and like, I got to make it.

I got to make it from grinding to protecting yourself and staying guarded. When did you realize that you didn't have to be in survival mode anymore? That's a great question because I think I was in survival mode until I'm at beautiful. Wow. I just got to. It's been survival mode since since before 2019, 2019 was the Essence Fest.

Is that when y'all met? We met in 2018. Help me out, beautiful. Let's see. How many years is this year? Being together, I think, five. Is it five or six? I moved to Atlanta, 2019,

so it might have been 2018. Yeah. So my thing was I was always guarded. I didn't want people in my business, you know, as an artist we're told to, well, back then, you didn't want people to know you in a relationship. Right. Because that could ruin your record sales. So everything stayed private. I was definitely still in the closet, so I definitely wasn't telling that, let alone talk about any relationship. But it was Essence Festival 2019. And for the first time, I felt like I didn't care what anybody said and the love that I felt from her. I just wanted everybody to know. You know, I wanted to hold her hand. I wanted to just be close to it. And I have never did that in my entire life.

We all were like, whoa. Yeah, we were at the Essus Festival, and I grabbed her hand. And my whole team is like, what the, what is going on? So they all grabbed each other's hands. Everybody grabbed her. So it looked like we were all just walking together like you would walk through a club or crowded room. And I'm like, no, you know, like let my hand go. I want to hold her hand.

And I was just all up close to it. My team was looking like, you sat on my lap. I sat on her lap. They closed the door to our play. I was like, because I didn't know that this was, we're not supposed to be doing it. They lost their minds. They were like, what are you doing? I'm like, I don't care anymore.

I was like, I, this is who I'm feeling right now. And I'm like, and I want the world to know. I don't care. I want to be close to her. I want to touch her. I just wanted to be all up underneath her. And that was the first time at Essence Fest 2019 that I didn't care. Yeah.

What did that feel like just to have that freedom? It felt so good. It felt good to not care, you know, and just be around somebody that made you just want to do that. You know what I'm saying? Not want to hide them. And she was already kind of like, she wasn't like a private person like that. I didn't realize that, you know, she was all on social media and stuff with her different partners, you know. Before.

Before me. Yeah, I didn't scroll down that far. I was only into the, you know, the kaleidoscope stuff because I was doing promo for you. They would have been deleted. You wouldn't have seen them. What you mean? When we were dating, you wouldn't have seen them because they would have, they would get, you get deleted. What is that?

You don't stay on the page. You need it from your phone, though. Don't start that. Uh-uh. girl this what we're doing today this is a safe space we're good

yeah just the way love goes beautiful listen okay let me explain that don't stop I have if you get my phone it don't matter how many and like 70,000

pieces of content literally like it's it's a hundred yeah 144 thousand pieces oh I see it wow she went in my phone and she found something

I forgot was in there. Yeah. You're like, it's buried under the content. It don't matter when you get in a relationship, you scroll. You scroll and you delete. You scroll, you scroll from the time you met that person to the time you still with them, you scroll and you delete. Words of the wise, scroll and delete.

You talked about the way love goes. I want to get into it. You guys have a new book that's coming out in February. What's the exact release date? February 3rd. February 3rd. 2026. Let's go.

I'm excited. Happiness is framed as something you pursue, not something that just happens. What sparked the idea to say, hey, beautiful, we need to write a book? Her. So you're in the brains of, like, the business, like, and the ideas. Yes, yes. Hey, did you know that February 23rd is a day after our anniversary? Oh, you got the 22.

And then the 23rd. We said it come out on the 3rd. Oh, it comes out on the 3rd. You're right. Okay. So I feel like there's so much potential, especially when you have a likeness, you have people that follow you, you have people that want to know more. People want to sell into your life. You know what I'm saying?

And not like pastor churchwise, but people want to support you and anything that you're doing. Like my wife as an artist, like being an artist, no, we bought to sell hair products. We're about to sell books. We're about to do a show. because I felt like she didn't understand her fullest potential. Like we were working. I mean, we were together and I was like, girl, you know how much money you're living at the table?

Right. And we don't leave money on the table. Right. You're not much money you're leaving at the table. And not anything that goes against your morals or, you know, super extra hard work. But why don't we just do this? Yeah, I love that.

So what are some of the principles that we're touching on and the way love goes? We talked about some. I guess, like, because celebrity or not, everybody has their ups and their downs. Absolutely. And we got to keep it real. Absolutely. So relationships, you're going to argue, you're going to disagree, you're going to find your way back, though.

I think that's the key. And also knowing that it's not like a lot of people think it's 50-50, but it's like 80-20 in some areas. It's 90-10 in some areas. It might be 50-50 and some. but it's not that and it's almost like we try to give people different tidbits

of make what's your thing is your thing like lean into the thing that's yours and don't try to replicate or duplicate something else that you see. Whatever your person is strong in let them lead in that. Whatever whatever you know that

you know what I'm saying you might be weak in it's okay to let them lead in that thing and you don't have to fight over like the power position Right. I love that. Brad, was there anything that you were like, we need to put this in the book? Or that you really wanted to talk about? Or were you like, I don't know that there. I mean, we kind of go toe to toe in the book.

We kind of get into it a little bit. I mean, we were having, in writing the book, we were having like conversations and recording them about real life situations and things that happen and experiences. Because you don't see it the right way. No, you don't see it the right way. I mean, she has looked at my phone and saw something I had in my phone or text and threw my phone across the room. And, you know, we, we have real life situations.

This is a real relationship, you know. If your ex told their, I mean, if your current situation told their ex, oh, your feet are pretty. Or they sent the picture of their feet and they're like, oh, that's cute. It was a harmless compliment. Like, it wasn't like I was salivating over their toes or nothing. It was just, just forget it. I don't even want to see. But this is like the type of things we talk about in the book.

Yes, yes. These are good conflict residents. So how do we resolve that? You get your phone through to cross the room. You break the phone. That's how to resolve it. Break the phone. That wasn't a good reaction.

Let me show you. That's an example of a bad reaction right there. It didn't have to, she'd have to break my phone. Because then that caused more issues. I had to go get a new phone. Then I felt really bad over a simple compliment. Instead of us just sitting down talking like we kind of know how to do now, that was early on in the relationship.

She had to break my phone. Because then I could have turned around and be like, oh, you broke my phone. I'm going to break your phone. And that doesn't resolve things. No, it doesn't. But I just let her have her little funky attitude and be mad about it. And then we got over it, you know, after a few days of her not talking to me, which I hate.

I do not think you should go to bed mad at the person you love. She can just fall right to hell to sleep, honey. Well, so. Eat some food and go to sleep on. In all fairness. In all fairness. Being a person that has to carry as much as I do, sometimes I have to turn. turn off.

I understand that. It's either that or the worries of the world will overtake me and I'm not going to want to do any of this anymore. You know, and not life, but just all of it, like business, all of that. There's so many different things that have to be carried as, like, the CEO of a business, as a person that is, a provider for, you know, different layers of their family. It's like, okay, so I know we're going through this. Let me put this on in the back for right now.

so I can go to sleep. Yeah, because I need the rest. Because then as soon as I open that Pandora's box, it's all coming in. And also, when it comes to conflict resolution, I don't respond immediately because I know I'm going to say something I shouldn't. So I prefer to take a hour or two or a walk or something because I don't want to say something that I don't mean because I'm mad. Right.

And I'm mature enough to know that. Yeah, exactly. And that's smart because you can't take it back. When do you bring it back up? When is it time to discuss it? Is there time? Do you carve out time or then does your schedule get a little bit more booked and busier? I think we figure it out.

So her thing is she wants to talk about it right then. My thing is it might be a week later. A week? That's a long time. That is a long time, Judy. But we don't stay mad at each other. Because she'll say. Oh, so we're not going to talk about it and we kind of move past it.

Like I try to get positive conversations going and then when we finally talk about it, neither one of us are heated. Right. Yeah, I can understand that. This is what you made me feel like in that moment or this is what you made me feel like in that moment. And I feel like it's more level-headed conversation that could be progressive versus the night that it happened. I'm like, I need a minute.

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So at least you go to bed and it's like, you know what I'm saying? So, because if my mom's... She won't say it. She ain't the one that's going to say it. She will take her to sleep, turn over back towards you. You're like, well, you're going to sleep good like that and we're going through this. You'll be over that child life.

I'll be sitting there like, really. I accept your challenge. Yeah, because my mom did always teach me that never go to bed angry because the worst, it is not promised. people are going just like that, not to get too deep, but that's something she always taught me. And I held on to that because I'm like, dang, like, you're right, how would I feel if tomorrow woke up and you didn't wake up with me? I would be crushed.

So I always think about that, no matter, nothing is that deep. You know what I love you, but we're going to figure this out later. I'm still mad. You know? Right. So I challenge both of y'all. Yeah. That's fair.

So she could do that easily. Yeah. She is the one. Oh, so you ain't going to say nothing? Well, I love you too then. So she is already then. You probably be like, roll your eyes and turn around and be like, No, I'm probably asleep.

Yeah, she probably sleep. And it's not that I don't care. It's not. It comes off as that sometimes, though. And I'm sorry that it does. It is literally me going into what you just say, almost survival mode. Almost going into, okay, let's focus on the good because we don't need the bad to come crumbling in. Something I want to ask both of you.

What is something that you both have learned about love as a, that you wish you had to learn earlier in life. I think for me, learning that understanding your love language is one thing, but understanding your partner's love language is another. That's good. Because although I'm a gift giver, she prefers acts of service.

Yes. So I don't give how much I give to her. She would just want my time. She would just want me to, you know, like take initiative to take her out on a date and a day could be in our kitchen and I cooked us some spaghetti and I've made time and I put a candle up. She don't give a about the Bentley I bought her. None of that.

None of that. That was nice. For me, you know, I'm a. What? Dude, it takes me the way, honey. But that's what I learned. I had to learn that even though gift given is a thing for me and it makes my heart smile and that's how I show love, how does she interpret or receive love?

That's so good and that's real. Yeah. What about you, Brad? What is something that you learned about love, that you wish you had to learn earlier on? Hmm. I would say to really listen to your partner instead of answering just to have an answer or a reply. Like really listen to what they're saying and try to understand where they're coming from.

So you can kind of meet them and. kind of put yourself into the situation where they're coming from, opposed to just talking to respond. Right. And I'm used to kind of being a little combative and like, come on, we're going to go toe to toe to and that's just not her thing. So, you know, and sometimes she'll say what? You're listening, but you're responding to.

Right. You're listening to respond. Because you, that means you haven't heard what I say. Yeah. I'm trying to get you to receive it and not in a bad way, but you're listening to respond. Like you literally listen to defend yourself. Right. Versus understanding my side.

I get that, yeah. And I think a lot of us are guilty of that. Absolutely. I've definitely been that person. Right. There's nothing you said. I'm trying to defend the game. Right. You ain't going to make me look bad. That's not what I meant. I'm saying, you know. Right. Yeah. Exactly. And I'm just over here like, yeah, but you have to have a little more patience too. I'm trying. You have to have a little more patience with me

when it comes to that. She's out trying. So you'd be ready to give up, get out the car, walk out the room, slam the dough, and end the conversation. And it just shouldn't end like that, I don't think. So you should work on your patience as I still work on my other stuff too. This is so good. I feel like we're in therapy right now. I love this.

Love me too. And I think that's another thing. It's like, it's not a destination. It's like you have to work on it every day. Yeah. And you have to be committed to it. And it will be difficult sometimes. It will feel like the best thing.

ever and then it will feel like you better not say the worst thing ever no no not the worst thing ever but it it i was i was making a face okay so it'll feel like you know not today you know you are you're a comedy y'all are so funny that's her that's you i'd just be going off of her five girl that is a lie you are hilarious no seriously so funny i want to ask you in writing this book Were there any private moments that you had a challenge with actually putting it into the book where we were like, I don't know if I want to share this? Or do you guys feel like pretty much open book, literally open book? You know what's crazy? I thought she would be a little bit more private.

She went to talking about our sex life. And I was like, you? We're talking about this? Because she's super pride. When it comes to stuff like that, she's like, I'm a public displays of affection. I'm all of that. She is real, you know, not bad. Girl, when she was, I said, so you go.

on telling people that. So I was surprised. So I don't think when it came to the thing that I thought to me, you know. It wasn't that. Girl. Yeah. She's a girl. I didn't even understand who this woman was when she was doing this book.

Really? On that part? I was like, I'm surprised you put in that. Girl, you had gave up so much information. I felt like I wasn't giving up enough. So you had to step up. Yeah, I had to step my game up to keep up with you, girl. But you and your exes?

You and yours, honey. Oh, we're getting off. The tea in the book. You and yours. So the difference is, my were gone prior to us starting to date. Oh, my God. She was still clearing her path.

So they had some remnants and lingering. That's fair. You're accurate. See why I talk about the pretty feet? I mean, I'm the bread. I didn't say you didn't. But the should have been gone before you got with somebody. That's true, but I didn't know I was going to fall in love with you.

I ain't know it was going to escalate to what. it escalated to and I was going to be spending the night at your condo and all of that stuff. I didn't know I was going to go in the door and never want to leave. And that's what happened. So I was like, I got some cleaning up to do. And it took a while. It took a while. There was children involved.

I had to, you know, it just took more time than I wanted it to take because, of course, I wanted to clear everything out for our situation. But it didn't happen quite like that. Yeah. She also didn't articulate that. I was scared to articulate that. Okay. Because I didn't want to lose her.

Because, you know, you tell somebody, well, you know, I kind of got a situation. They'd be like, oh, well, I'm out. Picture situation, and I'm a holl at you. Right, because I'm Judy Honey. No, I found out. I told her. I said, I'm going to give you a little bit of time. She did.

I'm going to give you a little bit of time. You better get the shit together. And what you said was, you should have got rid of your other girlfriend before you got another one. And mush me and got out of my truck. I was like, I love that. I'm not a bitch. I love that. I'm not a bitch.

girl what is what is we doing but the good part is that she didn't leave me you know what I'm saying because that's what I was scared of I was like I'm going to lose her soon as she finds out I'm going to lose her and and I did and here we are a child later right right exactly a lot of people struggle keeping their identity when they're in relationships you kind of lose yourself in each other How have you both been able to continue to keep your identity, but you're still lost in each other? Like, I can tell the way y'all walk in and look at each other. It's like, I just love her, but you both still stand on your own powerfully. Honestly, I advocate for her to keep her.

Yeah. What you mean? Not in a bad way because motherhood has consumed her so much. That's what she is. Being a girlfriend first and being a wife consumed her so much, like I told her recently, leave. Take three days for yourself. Wow. I need you, because I do that.

I volunteer. I'm just let you know in about a couple of weeks. And she'll take me to the place. Like I'm not trying to get away from my family. Right. But sometimes you need time away. And I was just telling her to leave, even down to, you know, maybe go somewhere with your friends. And not that I'm saying get out, but I also, I've been a person that's lost myself in somebody else or lost myself in a situation.

And I look back years later, regret it. And what I said, what I never want her to do is, feel like she's been everything to me, but, you know, disregarded herself. Yeah. Because now if we, if we about to eat lunch, and she hate when I say this, if we about to eat lunch, here we go. And it's like, okay, well, what do you want to eat? Whatever you want.

And I'm like, no, what do you want? Whatever you want. No, what do you want? Because I will eat anything from any place that she chooses. I don't think that's a bad thing. It's not. So even down to when we were talking about, like I was talking about, life plans. I'm like, okay, you know, the success of the business, we have all of this,

all of this, you know, money we make in and, you know, what do you see yourself doing? Do you want to invest in this? Do you want to do this? Do you want to do this? And she's like, I'm happy like this. And I'm like, no, we need to figure out what you want to do. That's because everybody's not a planner. That's true. You are a planner. But just, it's like, what do you want to do? But I don't know. Yeah, I think some people aren't as like, live our lives. Yeah, I do that. I like that. Because I feel like if everybody was a Judy, you know what I'm saying? Like, everybody can't be as ambitious as you are. Like, you are highly ambitious, highly, you have the vision, you know?

And then there are some people like, I've dated a person like you, Brad, where he was just like, I'm okay with them. Like, how are you okay with this? Like, we need to be. So I'm like you, so I get it. But I feel like kind of balances each other out. So do you want, you want to go to Paris for a month? But she's done a lot of that, you know?

So it's like. You're like, I'm good. Okay, so she's done that. She's just like, I'm a good. Like, I'm okay. Everywhere and done everything. No, we got stuff to do. What do you want to do?

Tell me whatever you want to do. I'm game. Whatever you want to do, I'm going to support it. Let's do it. And I'm going to have fun doing it. I'm going to live my life just like that and enjoy it. No matter what we do, as long as we together with our family and everybody's good, all the people we bless and help and take care of, that warm our hearts and our souls and our spirits.

And as long as you could keep being Judy Claus and Judy this and all this stuff. And I can keep being brat and getting loved on and loving on people. Like, that's all I need. I live day to day. Tomorrow is not promised. I don't know no plan. I don't give a what's going on. As long as we happy, alive together,

and we got God and that's it. We're good. That's beautiful. I love that. I love that. And I think y'all balance each other out. I think it's perfect. And you just got to be like, okay with being the one that's.

Five years from now, what do you want to be doing? I don't know. I ain't thought about tomorrow. I just want to be whatever, whatever we're doing. with you raising our son whatever he'd be like five years from now what you know yeah yeah wherever we are do you want to live in the same house i don't know if we move let's move right if we don't we'll be right here like i i i don't know i love that i love i do because i and i feel you because i get frustrated i'm like oh like come on but like tyler had to tell me he's like

So everybody isn't wired the way we're wired. And there's some people that are just like, I'm good. And sometimes I aspire to be like the, I'm okay. Because I'm always like, what's next? What's next? Like, what we're doing? Like, I'm always thinking ahead. I think that's the thing.

Because I would never forget my first Guinness World Record I got. Come on. Say it again. The first. The first, not the. The first Guinness World record I got. Less than an hour after receiving it, I was, I'm at my house and I'm like, okay, what we're doing now?

What's the next thing? I couldn't stay. Like, there isn't staying in the moment. I don't know how to Like yes you could celebrate But you don't celebrate And lose yourself But you also don't give yourself your flowers

And you don't like for people to point out That you're an amazing Wonderful Entrepreneur Beautiful mother Just everything You're everything that a woman can aspire to be You are all that like wrapped in one person

I don't know how you run kale As the CEO is so many You gotta wear everybody's hat If one person mess up, you're doing everything. Like, you, I just don't know how you do it. You're on a phone calls 24-7. The computer, you're fixing this. You're fixing that.

At the same time, you're a mother to true. You're a mother to Daisy. You're a grandmother to Kinsey. You're a daughter to your mom. Like, it is, I don't want to ever be a CEO. I'm going to just stay right here with you and be your wife and your baby mama. Like, and rapper. and actress and all the other things I do separate from that.

Like, you wear a lot of hats and you don't like to get your flowers, but you are everything and you deserve them. And I love you and I appreciate you, and you're the best thing this ever happened to me and my son and my family and anybody you fucking come across. Because you are that and you prove it every single day. Okay, I'm about to cry. I know. Why does she do that?

Sorry. Receive it. Jesus. Receive it. You receive it? Mm-hmm. Okay. Now, I have another challenge for you, Judy.

I want you to also take moments to just, because I know you, I know you're a woman of faith, and God has blessed you tremendously. Take moments to just sit in it because, girl, now you're about to cry. I know. I tried to control me. Ooh. Mm. That was so beautiful because you are.

I think the reason she's upset is because in this season, no matter how much you try to get people grace. It's just the thing that I would never let happen, I would never let my company anything. Like, we've had some. And people come in and mess up. That's what I say. Yeah, well, some bad apples. Messed up millions of dollars.

But I'm, and she got to fix it. Oh, I always. Yeah. She always fixes it. I built this from the ground up. Yeah. No investors, no nothing.

So I was a person that had to control inventory planning from when we were ordering 30 pieces to when we ordered 300,000 pieces. Wow. So there's not, there's no part of the company that I'm unfamiliar with. Yeah. So because of that. I am going to be in the meetings 6 o'clock in the morning

10 o'clock at night I am going to stay up at night doing a Google sheet trying to correct somebody's inventory order forecast I am going to be doing the budgets for administration I am going

That's what I So she's witnessed me having to do that Because the people that mess up They have no repercussions Yeah They might get fired But they don't have to compensate For the millions

They got lost and misplaced or whatever And I can't go up because I got true and I got a family and I got my Chicago but what I caught no matter what I explain to her maybe you can help me on this okay if I've empowered somebody in a seat to be able to make a decision that could cost me millions of dollars that was my risk yeah and even though it was their mistake it was my risk because also in my company with having no shareholders or anything I benefit the most yeah so that means you also have to take the most losses that's so if if year one through and we're in year 11.

If year one through eight, I ate 80% of the profit, you know, companies come a year or two later. If it's something that I have to sew back into it, it's something that I fall on the sword every time. I hate that. I will fall on the sword every time. Even if it's somebody else's, but it's my company. So that's what happened.

That's why I want to be no seat. Right, exactly. I'm cool. Yeah. I'm cool as a writer and the rapper and all that good stuff over here. Right. Just being responsible and hiring. And I can tell you that's a talent that I hadn't had.

So I'm learning how to better hire. I am perfectly okay with saying what I'm good and not good at. I don't feel like I know everything. I feel like I know I'm good at marketing, but not even all parts of it. I know I'm good at social media, but not even all parts of it. And everything is also ever evolving. Yes. But being open to say, hey, we need some help.

Hey, I need some help when it comes to building out structures, KPI, building out systems and processes because I never had to have it. I didn't go to college. I didn't even go to my high school graduation. Wow. So getting here, I was here by God's grace. By, you know, the mess ups. You know, and the messups are going to be expensive.

But the generated income is also way more money than the mess up. Like, yes, we had a million dollar mistake, but made $25 million a year. So you feel what I'm saying? Like, what's the... Clock it all the way around. That's a part of the business. Yeah. I started, when we first got in a relationship, I didn't let her in.

much because she is angry. She does want to punch somebody in the face. I didn't let her in much, but then I realized the more I left her isolated, the more she didn't understand why I'm taking these long meetings, why she didn't understand while I'm doing this person's job. But not that I've let her in, she's angry. And I'm like, well, this actually is the order of business. When you have a company, this happens. Yeah. It's, it's, there's no company that has succeeded that has been, all workers have done their job 100% the whole entire time. And anything that ever falls, it always going to roll to the top anyway. That's so true.

So true. I love that. I have really enjoyed my time with you guys today. Seriously. We've had tears. We've laughed. We had a little therapy session. Okay.

Got a few challenges. I appreciate you guys. The way love goes comes out February 3rd, 2016. Can we pre-order now? Yes, you can. Pre-order. Please. Yes, pre-order now.

Let's make this a New York Times bestseller and beyond. The links are in our bios as well. Perfect. Pre-order. And we'll have your end. Instagram handles so that everybody can tap in and get your books now. Okay, let's support these ladies. I love you guys. I know our community loves you and we support you. Let us know anything else we can do. Is there anything else besides the book that we have coming up that we need to be

on the lookout for? We have a new launch, but yeah, we can just talk about the book. Okay. All right. All right. Thank you so much. Thank you. So much. We love you too. Thank you. Oh my goodness. What an amazing conversation. We laughed and cried. All the things. Today's conversation was reminded that love is one thing, but happiness takes intention. Thank you guys so much for tuning into another episode of the Keep a Positive Sweeties Show. Don't forget to subscribe and share this episode with someone who can use a little positivity today. And as always, stay blessed, stay encouraged, and remember, keep your positive, sweeties.

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