Keeping Records - Riot Mentality (with Caitie Delaney)

Episode Date: January 22, 2021

Writer and generally amazing human Caitie Delaney (Rick and Morty) creates a Golden Record of various elements of Earth pop culture. Caitie's Artifacts Livestreams of Disney Adults (audio-visual) ...French Montana, "Pop That" (audio) Richard Linklater's Before Sunset Trilogy (audio-visual) Paparazzi Photos (image) Original Voyager Artifact Demonstration of Eating, Licking and Drinking (image) Follow the show @keepingrecordspod Advertise on Keeping Records via Gumball.fm See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a HeadGum Original. In 1977, NASA sent two solid gold records into space, so that aliens might find them and understand life on Earth. I send greetings on behalf of the people of our planet. And friendly wishes to all who may encounter this voyager. Now, we're making new records with our friends. Bonjour tout le monde. Konnichiwa.
Starting point is 00:00:33 Hola y saludos a todos. Assalamu alaikum. We step out of our solar system into the universe seeking only peace and friendship, we know full well that our planet and all its inhabitants are but a small part of this immense universe that surrounds us. Hello from the children of planet Earth. Well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well. Caleb, hello. Shelby.
Starting point is 00:01:06 Hello. Hey, hello. Shelby! Hello. Hey, how are you? You know, we got a really big delivery today to the house. We are going to be really strong. We got a rowing machine delivered to our home. And it's too heavy for us to bring inside. One person couldn't carry it if they tried we haven't used it yet so we cannot carry it but it's gonna change things for us i think yeah i think if anyone was
Starting point is 00:01:33 kind of thinking they weren't into us yet yeah after a week of using a rowing machine for 10 minutes it's over it's over i think also just we're gonna be in the house for a lot longer, it's starting to seem. It is starting to seem. And if we're rowing that whole time. I mean, if what happens, if this is the apocalypse, eventually there's a flood. If I know anything about the Bible, which I don't. So thank you for speaking on it, by the way. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:02:01 But once there is a flood, which there will be because of the Bible, we'll be able to canoe like any, but we'll be so like a cruise ship even we could canoe because we'll be such good rowers. Do you have any fears surrounding the fact that we don't own a boat? I think once the apocalypse has kind of hit, You take a boat. You steal. Yeah. See, I won't survive in the apocalypse because I'm too moral. Bullshit. I won't survive in the apocalypse because I refuse to do wrong. Also, I feel like there are people, really rich people, who couldn't row who I could be like, listen, we will row the boat, but we get to be on the boat. Oh, make ourselves valuable to those with more resources. Yes.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Now that's something I can do. Thank you. I've been doing that a lot i think it is moral i think it's almost we're offering a gift yeah we really need to bring our guests in on this should we intro her yeah we should everyone knows her from well she writes on rick and freaking morty freaking freaking morty freaking freaking morty and she also writes on twitter.com the website does and a million other things, honestly. And so many things.
Starting point is 00:03:06 She would be embarrassed if we said all of her credits, though. She would hate that. She's so humble. She'd hang up on the call. Please welcome our extremely humble and hot guest, Katie Delaney. Oh, my God. Hi. And Tucci Delaney.
Starting point is 00:03:24 And Tucci's here. Tucci Delaney is also here. Katie and tucci delaney and tucci's here tucci delaney is also here katie and tucci delaney he's right up in my face for some reason he's not usually like this i think he wanted to be a part of it and we wanted him to be a part of it yeah everyone will feel that way when they hear this up they'll be like i wish i was sitting on katie's part of it someone did my mom did ask like why this isn't on youtube and i was like well babe it's a podcast so that's the deal that's part of it. My mom did ask why this isn't on YouTube. And I was like, well, babe, it's a podcast. So that's the deal. That's kind of how it goes.
Starting point is 00:03:51 Katie, how are you? You know, I'm fine. Listen, it's Monday. Well, that's when we're recording this. Oh, I hope I didn't mess up something by saying it's Monday. And that's like, no, I'm listening to this on a Friday. Yeah, we recorded on a Monday. First Monday back, like, just not that it really has anything to do with me. I'm not really working at the moment.
Starting point is 00:04:14 But it feels like a Monday over here, you know? Honestly, I think it's important that people do know we're recording on a Monday because I think it's an energy that they need to be aware of. Yeah, I'm feeling very Monday. Katie, you're also getting like unreasonably fit during quarantine on your Peloton bike. We see it. I've finally started my journey after many months. So I bought this Peloton in like June and for the first six-ish months of having it, I didn't use it.
Starting point is 00:04:45 I used it maybe 10 times. I was just like afraid of fulfilling my destiny and becoming the best version of me. So I didn't do that. And then in the beginning of December, I decided enough is enough. And now I'm on the Peloton every day and I never shut up about it. And I love it. And my legs are just becoming so strong that i could i'll just like crush just really anything with my legs i'll like give it to me i'll crush
Starting point is 00:05:12 it a watermelon that's how strong yeah watermelon like person just crush them i would love to see katie crush a person with her legs i Yeah, I would like to see that. There's some people that are on a list that are inching closer to being crushed between my legs and not in a cool way, in a bad way. Like you'll be dead after. Name them. Well, you know, that's for the Patreon subscribers. Do you guys have a Patreon?
Starting point is 00:05:37 Yes, thank you. Thank you for endorsing that. And we did actually miss something already that I wanted to get to. Katie, tell the listeners who named your Peloton bike. Oh was you caleb it was caleb guys and do you want to tell them what the name is yeah well i'm trying to remember i think i named it julia roberts didn't i you did you did the bike's name is julia roberts iconic of me wow yeah julia roberts when she dresses when she does dresses drag when she dresses when she does drag in what's the movie that we watched of her the other day, where she does drag to visit her mom.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Oh, my God. Sleeping with the Enemy. Sleeping with the Enemy. Yeah. I've always felt like I would, I mean, she's the most beautiful woman in the world. I would obviously love to be with Julia Roberts, but Julia Roberts in drag. How do you mean? Be with her how?
Starting point is 00:06:26 Romantically. Oh. Honestly, like, I feel weird saying sexually because I don't think of her in that way. I think of her as, like, an art piece. Oh, sure. You know how people like to be described. She's too beautiful to be, like, sexualized. Do you know what I mean? But when she dressed in drag and was, you know, presenting very masc, also hot. Katie, have you seen Sleeping with the Enemy? Many, many times.
Starting point is 00:06:51 It's one of my favorite films. We just watched it for the first time. Oh, my God. Well, I watched that movie a lot at the beginning of quarantine because I found it so charming when she moves to like iowa or whatever the fuck and she does ayahuasca in iowa that house that she rents is like 700 dollars 90s 90s money but um yeah i love it i love the film she's collecting apples from her neighbor's tree. He kind of reprimands her, but kind of like softly, but hotly. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:28 And then she's like, fuck this. I do not play that game. And then he shows up. He's like, oh, sorry. I just, here's the apples. Did you want them? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:36 He's like, nevermind. I'm so sorry. It's a musical theater. Yeah. It's just. When I lived in Missouri in college, my rent for a two-bedroom, two-car garage, two-floor balconies, like, nice apartment. It wasn't nice on the inside. Like, they really could have used some updates.
Starting point is 00:07:54 But our rent was $350 each. And just two of us live there. Can you believe that? What year is this? 2016. All right. What the... That's...
Starting point is 00:08:04 Yeah. That's madness. It was 1991 when i was an undergrad that's four years before you were born right you were so smart so early yeah i was really good but we have to get to the reason yeah there's something that we brought you here for we brought you here for a really big reason We wanted to ask you if you were in charge of your own golden records, what are you putting on them? Well, guys, I've done quite a lot of thinking about this actually. And we appreciate that. And we appreciate it a lot.
Starting point is 00:08:36 And I was thinking, well, you know, I went through the whole process in my head. Like, do I want to include things that I like personally? Is this my personal golden record? And then people get a whole sense of who i am these aliens when they open this record and they they should be so lucky by the way right well i kind of decided that i'm not interesting enough for it just to be a reflection on me so i decided to pivot a little bit and uh try to think of things that i think represent humanity as a whole. You know, the good side and the bad side.
Starting point is 00:09:09 So should we just dive in? Yeah, let's dive in. What are we putting on there? Okay, so the first thing that we're putting on there, I think, says a little more about maybe the sides of humanity that are not the most attractive or that we would lead with, but I'm going to lead with it. And the first thing that I'm putting on my record are Disney adults.
Starting point is 00:09:35 Wow. And when I say that, I mean adults that are obsessed with Disney World, all things Disney. People know what Disney adults are, right? Yeah. God, I hope so. Because you have to protect yourself.
Starting point is 00:09:49 You have to know what they are in order to protect yourself. Yeah. You have to be able to recognize one on the street so that you can just like act accordingly. But I guess I'll start by telling you that I've had sort of a weird obsession with Disney adults since, again, since this whole pandemic started. Sorry, I have to say, I don't think you're completely off base by it. Like, I understand that because Disney adults were some of the first adults in the pandemic to be like, this can't stand.
Starting point is 00:10:18 We can't have lockdowns. We have to go to Disney. Yeah. And then Disney like opened in the middle of it for a little bit. I think they reclosed. But for a second, they were like, okay, you can come. Were you seeing this Katie? Disney World is open. Disneyland has not been open since March, but Disney World reopened in like May or June. Like I think May, like pretty quickly they reopened and they have not closed
Starting point is 00:10:41 again. So it like started with, I don't know how I came across this, but in May when they were opening up, I discovered all of these, uh, YouTube people, Disney adults who live stream their trips to Disney world for like eight hours a day. And I just started like watching them. Oh, I know how I found it. It's because someone on Twitter tweeted a video from one of these live streamers saying like, my friend was feeling really sick. So we had to go to the nurse's office and, and everyone was like, this bitch has COVID and is walking around Disney world. And then, so I started watching that woman's streams like every single day. Like I would wake up. This is again, this is May. This is like true is may this is like true like psychotic no no no
Starting point is 00:11:27 we're with you um yeah we're on your side i would i would wake up and put it on i was just so fascinated by seeing people living in the world as if everything was normal and it was like somewhat comforting to like see a place like dis Disney be open and just like see people having a nice time, but also so haunting and terrifying and confusing. Like I really, I could not stop watching. And then I got into different live streamers and they all know each other and there's all these politics and stuff.
Starting point is 00:11:58 So I, I've become very familiar with the Disney adults in the last few months. And then I started watching, I found Disney adult Tik TOK and that's just a whole other brand of just like cringe, like, uh, like wholesome,
Starting point is 00:12:14 but stupid. And like, there's just, there's a lot there. I think Disney adults belong on this record because to me, it's like the ultimate amalgam of capitalism. Like, I think you immediately understand what capitalism is and that that was like a dominating like religion. Yeah, that capitalism can build a personality somehow. Uh-huh. And people being obsessed with rekindling their youth or not even moving on from their youth, I think, in a lot of situations.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Where it's like these people just at 10 years old or 5 years old saw The Little Mermaid and then decided they never had to see another movie or find out about anything else ever. And then that's just the thing that they like and that's it forever. I think that's very interesting. There's just a lot. I mean, I'm going to let you guys talk now because I've been monologuing, but I think there's a lot there in terms of Disney adults and what it says about humans. Absolutely. I, when you said that there was a video you saw on Twitter, I thought it was going to be that video where it was like my view from my stretcher or whatever. Oh my God. I was going to bring this up. I thought
Starting point is 00:13:21 that guy, some guy on Twitter tweeted twitter tweeted um what it was was like a disney had put out a virtual tour of disneyland with like you know you see like creatures leaning over to wave at you and hear the music and he captioned it pov you're asphyxiating on the stretcher i remember that and i thought that was gonna the video. No, that was a huge one too. And that's what definitely got me over to YouTube to check out what was going on. Well, this brings me to my question for Katie, which is, Katie, what do you say, because I've
Starting point is 00:13:54 come for Disney adults before and I've encountered the person I'm about to play for you. What do you say to someone who says, let people enjoy things? Don't yuck their young. Let the Disney adults. Why rain on their freaky parade? Truly freaky.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Let me be clear. I'm putting them on the record. So I'm celebrating them. That's true. That's true. I do talk some shit about Disney adults. I think more now than perhaps I would have, let's say, a year ago. Because I think that they're putting themselves and others in danger
Starting point is 00:14:25 by going to Disney World and all that stuff. But I think in general, like, let me make myself clear. Thank you. I like to go to Disneyland. At one point in, I think it was 2014, I had an annual pass, and I went, like, 20 times. You had an annual pass? Yeah, when you get an annual pass, it becomes,
Starting point is 00:14:44 you, like, get your money back within like three visits. And I had a friend who was like, let's just do it for this year. And I was like, fine. And we went a bunch of times. I feel like I'm talking to someone who escaped a cult and is now telling the truth about it. Like, I think there's nothing wrong with loving Disney. I like to go to Disneyland and I like to watch Disney movies and I think it's fine. But it's the, like, Disney adults don't have anything else. And it worries me. Like, it's this woman that I watch on the live stream. Like, she is, like, the plates in her home have Mickey on them.
Starting point is 00:15:27 And like, it's Mickey everything. It's everything to these people. And it's like, I'm trying to imagine what thing I love that much that I'm like, that's it. Everything in my house is like, you know, when I was 10, it would have been Leonardo DiCaprio. And he would have been monogrammed on my plates. And it's like, just been Leonardo DiCaprio, and he would have been monogrammed on my plates. And, like, just everything Leonardo DiCaprio. Like, no.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Even as a 10-year-old, I would have been like, this is a little too far. A little much. This is overkill. It's things made for children. And it's just, I should have, like, prepared what I was going to say a little bit more, because I'm getting so worked up thinking about how deranged Disney adults are. They really are so visibly stressed. There's smoke coming out of my ears. It's confusing to me. Is there rides at the Disney LA place? Are there rides at Disneyland?
Starting point is 00:16:17 Yeah, or is it like a show? Are you serious? Is it one of them? Yeah, there are rides at Disneyland. Have you been to Disneyland? First of all, yes, but not since I was little. But I swear I went to one that was like mostly not rides. You probably went to downtown Disney.
Starting point is 00:16:39 Well, that sucks. Why would my parents have taken me to that? Well, you don't have to pay to go into that. So there's like a, there's like a little like shopping district. So you're telling me my parents were too cheap. They totally flew me to go to a Disney thing and they were too cheap to pay. I really wish I knew where you went because it might've been in Florida. What's in Florida. Well, I hate that. I know all this because I watched these streams, but downtown Disney to Florida is
Starting point is 00:17:07 called Disney Springs. And it's like a fucking mall and there's shows. There's all sorts of stuff. Maybe that's where I went. I went somewhere that there were not rides and I just had to shake hands with Snoopy. You said, do they have rides? Snoopy is not
Starting point is 00:17:23 a Disney character. You went to Six Flags. Maybe it's not Snoopy. Snoopy's at Cedar Point. No, I didn't go to Six Flags. You're right. Did you go to Epcot? I don't know. Where are you from? Probably. No, I don't go as an adult. Epcot has rides. Like Epcot doesn't have as many rides, but Epcot has rides. But maybe you went to Epcot and you were just walking around all the countries. Maybe the problem is that I was too short and my parents didn't want to admit that to me and so they were just like, girly, we're going to the part where there's no rides. Sorry, rides are all broken.
Starting point is 00:17:54 But I want to know your guys' opinions of Disney adults. Do I sound like an asshole being so harsh about them? No, Holmes called me a Disney adult. Yeah, on their episode. i think you're being too easy on them katie i think there should be um you know a program where we try to re-assimilate them they are living they are living in their own world they need to learn what the rest of the culture is doing they need to learn how to be productive members of society. It's because I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:18:28 I'm not. I want everyone to do their thing. Everyone be happy if you're happy. But ultimately, if I have to see you wearing the Mickey Mouse ears and you're 37, that starts to infringe on my personal freedom. No, it doesn't. Yeah, because now I have to know that you went to the park and got your name put on them it's that's infringing on my day uh do you consider disney adults in the same realm of like harry potter adults here's what gets me about a lot of this whole world and the
Starting point is 00:18:59 personality that a lot of disney adults have and harry Harry Potter adults and all that stuff is they, they talk about things like they think that they're so weird and quirky when in reality, they are like the most desperately basic people in like, they talk about things as if everyone else doesn't also know what that is. So they like literally like i'm such an area like like or like talking about which fucking hogwarts house you are like yeah everyone knows what the hogwarts houses are we learned about it when we were like 10 years old and it takes about five minutes to learn the qualities yeah hufflepuffs are nice and then they talk about it as if it's this like underground community that like well if you don't read harry Potter, then you don't know what I'm talking about. It's like, actually, everyone knows what you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:19:49 And it's just not terribly interesting. Well, and they also they also talk about it like it's the most powerful, misunderstood allegories for society. Like, you know, someone who loves cartoons will be like, well, you know, Fox and the hound is actually about learning to live with people that and it's like we know that allegory was invented for children they know white is snow white sydney white the movie with amanda bines is is a lot like snow it's it's supposed to and she's the man also with amanda bines is Shakespeare. Twelfth Night. Yeah. But it's like that's why, yeah, cartoons are invented. Like these Disney movies are invented to teach children lessons.
Starting point is 00:20:38 So you're not like suddenly realizing something like, oh, my God, like it's about the Holocaust. It's not that. No Disney movies are about the Holocaust, which is something that we could talk about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's get into the Holocaust. But you know what? They think that they're making these amazing discoveries. Just all these things that are so simple.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Like Hidden Mickeys. Do you guys know about Hidden Mickey? No. In the Disney parks, they hide the shape of Mickey Mouse's head. So like the three circles and that makes sense to me it's like a game to like look on the ground like disney is very detailed in the way that they build their parks which i appreciate um but but people become obsessed it's all there's always like more to to dig for when you're a disney adult and when in
Starting point is 00:21:23 reality it's just there's not all that much there. Like, you guys need to check out fucking, I was gonna say Filmstruck, which went was defunct like three years ago, but like, grab a Criterion collection. Not even that. Just like go to the movies and like see a movie that you don't recognize the name of just like try something else. I mean, my God, what do they have to call themselves when they work at Disney? They have to be called actors or they're cast members, cast members. That's what it is. I knew it was something annoying. Well, the cast member thing, I'm glad you bring it up because that's another just goes into my whole, I think that the aliens will be
Starting point is 00:21:58 really be learning something about the cyclical and dangerous nature of of capitalism mixed with nostalgia which is that people are these disney adults are obsessed with disney and so then they think their ultimate dream is to go to florida and work for disney and then they probably don't get paid very well they work there for like 50 fucking years and then they die and then their kids are obsessed with it's like they're breeding people to become obsessed with dis so that they work for them and convince themselves that they're happy because they're like making root beer floats for some fucking brat. And then it's just you. You have every single person I believe in my heart that had a friend in college who went to work for the Disney program. You never saw them again.
Starting point is 00:22:50 If your friend in college left to work for Disney, they were like, I'm going to be gone for six weeks. And you just saw them on Instagram like two years after graduation. You never saw them again. They disappeared. I have a question. If you're on cast as, I don't know, a princess, let's say, is there like a growth there? Like when you start to age, do you get to become like a stepmother or like a witch? Do you age out or do you get to play maybe an older character? That's interesting. I feel like it's probably mostly young people
Starting point is 00:23:23 even playing the older characters because you need the stamina and the personality. It's the ugly young people. It's the same as real theater. When you're ugly, they make you a character. That's right. They put you in makeup and a wig. I don't know. I think, but I have noticed that the older people that work at Disney are usually like working in the retail part of the park. And the younger people operate the rides and play the characters and stuff like that. I'm still laughing at Shelby's parents taking her to the parking lot of a Disney park and saying, oh, this is all it is. I love that this whole, your whole life you've wondered if there are rides at Disney World. Truly, I only go to like Six Flags.
Starting point is 00:24:08 I'm like, well, why would I go to Disney if there's no rides? I want to go to rides. I would be going to Disney more, I think. I mean, I personally prefer – you guys, we've got to go to Disney when this is all said and done. I prefer Disney to Six Flags because I'm not a big ride person, but they have rides for every pace you know, pace that you would want. Every level, beginner, intermediate, advanced, you know. I'm not going to go on a roller coaster, but we can chill on Pirates of the Caribbean.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Like, anyways. I like roller coasters. Caleb likes roller coasters as long as they don't put him upside down. Don't take me upside down. If you want me to be upside down, you can get your ass kicked. I don't like that. I'll do anything. I'm with you. I'll do anything you want. I hate roller coasters, man. I don't do them. I don't like them.
Starting point is 00:24:52 I will say, the only outcome of this episode is that we all do when times are normal again. God, I hope it's soon. We all go to Disney and become Disney adults. When you have so much skepticism and questions about a thing and vitriol the joke is always on you because
Starting point is 00:25:10 eventually you start to see why why they like it yeah and i i want to be perfectly honest like i'm the one that has spent hours of my one precious life watching people walk through disney world like and i'm, fuck these people. It's like, well. They're winning. They won. I'm literally in their point of view watching them do what they do. And I'm fucking sitting at home not doing anything.
Starting point is 00:25:34 So who's the real winner? Schmuck. Well, we have the nerve to sit here and say Disney adults have nothing else. But they have everything. They're not watching our YouTube channel. We're watching theirs. Well. You think Disney adults are watching your YouTube channel?
Starting point is 00:25:47 I don't have a YouTube channel. But if I did, they'd be on there. I do think the correct response to Disney adults is, let them be. But that's not how I feel, you know? Yeah. And I do think the aliens need to see that they exist. And then they can make their own opinions. Like, maybe they think it's really cool,
Starting point is 00:26:07 and that's good that they were exposed to it. Or they're like, no, no. And then when they overrun Earth, we get to finally take them out. Yeah, Katie, do you have any concerns about sending Disney adults to space and what impact that might have on aliens? Like, what if they really get into it and they all aliens? What if we create a Disney race in space? Oh my God, that is frightening.
Starting point is 00:26:30 That's actually really dangerous. I hadn't thought of that. Yeah. I mean, these are the questions. I guess I had thought more that like proof of Disney adults somehow came to the aliens and not the adults themselves. I don't want to give them that much power. So that's a
Starting point is 00:26:45 really good thing to bring up. In my mind, it's like the earth is like gone by the time this record reaches aliens. And in order to teach them what it was like on earth, show them a Disney adult. I don't know, maybe show them one of the live streams that I've watched day in, day out. And it's just so interesting. Like, an alien's gonna see that and be like, okay, so there's this cartoon character. It's a mouse,
Starting point is 00:27:10 and everyone seems to be obsessed with it. But it branches out into all these other things, and there's all these old people. I mean, there's just so much there. I really, um...
Starting point is 00:27:21 Yeah. I think it's gotta be on there. Before we get into what else you you put on your records we got to go to a break welcome back what welcome back wake and bake wake and bake with katie delaney wake and bake with katie delaney oh we just i smoke weed set up a podcast for you wake and bake with katie delaney is there a podcast yet called wake and bake there must be gotta be gotta be get up it's about it's about weed and breakfast food and i'm the host mild ones with katie delaney um all right katie what's the second thing you're
Starting point is 00:28:01 putting on the record okay this is what i'm going to put second on my record. It's a song. It's a song that I feel encompasses, or not encompasses, but just sort of elicits emotion and hypeness and brings out something even in these aliens that they hear, and they're going to be like, holy shit, I feel something. What's going on here? And the song is Pop That by French Montana.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Are you guys familiar? That is hot. That is a hot song. So, like, imagine you're an alien and you press play and it's like, like, you get, like, hit in the face with just, like, this rush of pop that. Instructions, first of all. Instructions, pop that, pop that, pop that, pop that. Yeah, he's telling you, pop that. And you're like, okay, well, I guess I better do it because I don't know what's going to happen next.
Starting point is 00:29:02 The song, I don't know if you knew this, is five minutes long. It is quite long. You get all your energy out, all your hype done. I think it should be longer, personally. There's a Lil Wayne verse. There's a Drake verse. Everything you need is just wrapped up in this song. Well, also something great about including this song, from my point of view,
Starting point is 00:29:24 is that his name is French Montana. So you're also including a United States and a country. Wow, that's very interesting. I wonder how much they'd be able to glean from that. What is French? What is Montana? Can they read? I don't know. Well, that's sort of part of the question. That's the beautiful thing about music, right? It's a universal language. It transcends. Like, to me, I don't think they have to know. They don't have to understand the lyrics.
Starting point is 00:29:54 They don't have to know who sang them. All you need to do is just get that going through your eardrums. And like, you have never seen me more insane or out of my body or just like on another plane of existence than when Pop That comes on. And everyone knows this about me. This has become my brand. You want to see me go crazy? You put on Pop That by French Montana. I think the craziest thing about Pop That as a song is that i would have a really hard time singing it like like it's you have to be screaming it you can't just be like yeah pop that pop that pop
Starting point is 00:30:30 that it's like that's not the song this song is like a full-blown yeah like you're fucking screaming if you're not screaming you're not doing the song you're just um you're reciting a poem katie if you could give the aliens the perfect human experience of hearing Pop That for the first time, what would you, like, if you could send them that experience in a bottle, where would they be? Who would they be with? Et cetera. That's so cute and interesting.
Starting point is 00:30:57 I mean, when I hear, like, I kind of want them to be at a wedding or something. Okay. Okay. Straight wedding, gay wedding? Well, then we get into... How about a polyamorous wedding so there's like five people getting married? I love it. Yes.
Starting point is 00:31:18 Okay, fun. Because that's not really what we're going to be focusing on. We're just focusing on the reception, the good time. We don't even have to know who the people are who got married. I just think the vibe is different. Depending on what kind of, if it's gay or straight wedding. That's true. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and if we're going to keep with your sitting Disney adults, we should probably send the vibe of a straight wedding. Just so, because you want to give an honest depiction. We can't have them thinking everyone's cool and gay. That is true. There have historically been
Starting point is 00:31:43 way more straight weddings than there have been gay weddings yeah and maybe we'll see that change in the coming years hopefully straight people just stop getting married that would be tight just stop and gay people get real serious about commitment yeah i actually think that would be pretty good i mean for a little while an interesting experiment it enforce. Straight people are not allowed to get married anymore. Fucking sounds fine to me because I get so worked up about if I'm ever going to get married and find my guy. It's like, who cares? I'm not allowed to get married. So it's not going to happen.
Starting point is 00:32:15 So just let me be. Find my guy. I got to find my guy. I got to find my dude. I haven't found my guy. So you're at a wedding. The aliens are surrounded by loved ones. I would love to see the experience transport their alien loved ones, not humans.
Starting point is 00:32:34 I want all the aliens to go to this wedding and experience it together. And that song comes on and you all just look at each other, sort of deciphering how hype everyone's going to get it's it becomes a real like hive mind what's it what's the thing called when uh uh riot mentality like absolutely you become one with each other you lose yourself when you're listening to that song and uh who knows what will happen i mean you could all sorts of violence could break out but it's good violence it's um it's beautiful that's all i have to say about that it's so beautiful it's gorgeous it's so hype i love it did this song come out before or after French Montana dated Khloe Kardashian. I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Before? Before. I think it came out in 2012. All I know is that I had no idea who he was until he dated Khloe. He probably dated her after. Is he hot? I can't picture him in my mind right now. He's sort of as hot as Drake is.
Starting point is 00:33:44 Oh, that's interesting. Well, so if you're asking me, then the answer would be no. So if you're asking me, the answer is no as well. You don't think Drake is hot? I don't think Drake is hot at all. I don't think Drake is hot. But I would say that they are the same level of hot. They don't look alike, but they're the same level of hot.
Starting point is 00:33:58 I guess I would agree with that. I just looked him up and I would have to agree. I fully get what you're saying. French Montana, in my humble opinion, I don't know anything about him. I'm just doing this off of the pictures I'm looking at now. I think he wants what Bad Bunny has. Yeah, I can definitely see that in his look. I think vibe-wise he would kill to have what Bad Bunny has. Really?
Starting point is 00:34:22 I totally agree with you. He doesn't seem to be trying very hard. I just looked up Bad Bunny to get kind of an energy pulse on it all. You need to see Bad Bunny in action to really understand the Bad Bunny energy. Well, what I'm saying is his energy seems to be really fun
Starting point is 00:34:38 and kind of crazy. And French Montana seems to be buttoned up wearing a suit. I will say that French Montana lets the rest of the people featured on this track really do the, the light work. You're not remembering French Montana. It is a song by French Montana,
Starting point is 00:34:56 but you're remembering the Rick Ross verse. You're remembering the Lil Wayne verse and you're remembering the Drake verse. It's like what Nikki did to monster. Yeah. What Nikki did to monster. And what nicky did to monster and yeah like whose song even is that kanye yeah it's kanye's yeah okay is bottom whose song is bottoms up trey songs yeah bottoms up bottoms up took that one over too that song was hot too oh yeah
Starting point is 00:35:18 rest in peace to ann nicole smith Yes my dear you're so explosive Rest in peace to Anna Nicole Smith Yes my dear you're so explosive Insane to drop Insane to wish well wishes to Anna Nicole Smith I was drinking UV blue vodka To that shit in high school And chilling Having fun
Starting point is 00:35:39 There is nothing crazier to me in the world Than her sitting down to write that verse And she said what do I put here? She goes, rest in peace, Anna Nicole Smith. I will say, though, on Monster, speaking of Rick Ross, bringing it back a little bit to Rick. He says, well, on every song he says, ooh. And I love that. He says, ooh, Rick Ross.
Starting point is 00:36:03 But on Monster, he says but on monster he says that's iconic yeah yeah fat motherfucker no good no good blood sucker and then he says look who's in trouble in that area okay who is in trouble but the fat motherfucker so I thought he was saying fat motherfucker here. Now who's in trouble? You. Fat motherfucker. Rick Ross. Rick Ross has a very...
Starting point is 00:36:34 Margaret Thatcher. Your majesty. He goes, Rick Ross. This is my impression of rick ross your majesty someone's been watching the crown is she in the crown every episode of every season i've seen that's uh jillian anderson plays her right yeah okay hilarious i'm caught up i know i've never watched the show incredible hey i want to ask you Katie, before we talk about what's next on your record, I want to talk about something that was on the original records. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:14 We have to show you something, if that's okay. They put on the original records this picture, which is... And this will be on the Instagram. It's called, for any listeners who want to look it up before we get into it. It's called Demonstration of Licking, Eating, and Drinking. One of the images included on the original records is Demonstration of Licking, Eating, and Drinking. The man in the center of the picture is a balding white man, and he appears to be eating a burnt grilled cheese sandwich. Not only is he eating the sandwich burnt,
Starting point is 00:37:54 but he's taken a bite from one side, turned the sandwich 180 degrees, and taken a bite out of the other. Such a big bite. The person to his right, our left, if you're viewing the picture, is licking an ice cream cone in a manner that can only be described as menacing. If she were to pull the ice cream merely two inches closer to her face, it would be a perfectly normal way to eat ice cream. Which is why I refer to it as menacing.
Starting point is 00:38:30 I don't think it's menacing, I think it's inconvenient. She's sticking her tongue out so much further than she needs to. The man to his left, our right if we're looking at the picture, is drinking water out of a bong? Vase? picture is drinking water out of a bong vase he's drinking water in a way that can't be described as a demonstration it's a party trick the man water falling the water into his mouth is wearing sunglasses which has nothing to do with looking eating or drinking so it seems to be just a stylistic choice on behalf of the team and the man man with the sandwich, he's in a white button-up, which on its own presents no issue,
Starting point is 00:39:12 but it almost looks scientific, like a lab coat. Like what he's doing is an experiment. If somebody had to play the man in the white shirt in a movie, I would personally pick Stanley Tucci, exactly the way he looked in The Lovely Bones. What's troubling about this image is that it's deemed a demonstration. However, none of them are doing the thing they're meant to be doing the way they're meant to do it. Also, if I was eating and two people gathered around me in this way and started doing what the people on the sides are doing, I would probably walk away. I don't know that this actually demonstrates how humans gather and consume. Abnormal. They're all being abnormal. Katie, what do you see in here?
Starting point is 00:40:05 The first thing that pops out to me is that this guy in the middle is eating a sandwich that has already been bitten into on the front side. And now he's flipped the sandwich around and he's eating it from the other side, which is a very bizarre way to eat a sandwich. That's what's really sticking out to me. He took a bite, flipped it, and now he's taking another bite from the other side. It's crazy. I have a more romantic view, which is that he did one of those things where someone's
Starting point is 00:40:29 eating from the other side, like a spaghetti. Oh, what's that movie? Oh, Lady and the Tramp. Lady and the Tramp did it, and they did it with a sandwich, and then he ripped it out of their mouth and finished it off. Oh, that's kind of horny. Yeah. I want to be clear, he's not hot. You say he might be gay, Katie? No, he's had a crazy day. No, he's not hot day you say he might be gay katie no he's at a crazy
Starting point is 00:40:47 i said i think it was it looks like it was a crazy day on that photo shoot like i thought shelby said it looks like he did lady in the tram with the sandwich and katie said it does look like he might be gay and and i think we can all agree looking at the picture, there's nobody straighter on earth. Yeah, he doesn't look gay. But I was willing to go that route if that's what Katie wanted. I wasn't. I was going to fight it. Also, the guy who's demonstrating drinking is not drinking in a typical fashion.
Starting point is 00:41:19 Or from a typical cup. Vessel. Yeah. Yeah. He's drinking from a vase. He's drinking bomb water and pouring it from far, far away. He's like water falling bomb water. Yuck.
Starting point is 00:41:34 That just made me actually think about gagging. It's strange. I'm trying to think like an alien and just look at this, trying to remove all context. If you're alien, Katie, what do you get from this? What do you think this says? There's an energy to this. There's a sinister energy to this photo. It's kind of threat. This is like if
Starting point is 00:41:51 this is the food version of an orgy. Oh, yeah. This is a mukbang. Oh my god. It's a mukbang, but the bang stands for these folks are about to bang. She's licking correct.
Starting point is 00:42:08 I'll say that. Yes, she is. Is that a woman? I thought it was a guy. I guess we, I haven't asked that. I guess it is a woman. I think it is a woman, yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:42:17 That ice cream looks dope. But we're past gender at this point. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. And I bet the aliens are way past gender, so they don't fucking care they have so many of them they have so many genders there this picture the the composition of it is also just a disaster how do you mean like the whole top half of the photo is empty like like pan down a little i mean i guess you got to get that crazy vessel in the shot but like why is the sandwich guy like so hunched over and low in the photo this ice cream girl is almost completely out of frame i don't know it's just not a very good photo
Starting point is 00:42:50 and i don't like looking at it yeah katie the people in the picture fuck marry kill who do you got oh my good god come on i have my answer. I'm killing, I'm killing sandwich guy. Yeah, easily. Easily. Easily. I suppose I'm fucking the water drinking guy because he looks kind of freaky. Yes, exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:19 And then I'll marry the ice cream lady. Yeah, because I feel like you can have a conversation with her. She's doing normal shit. She seems the most normal. Yeah. Yeah. like you can have a conversation with her she's doing normal shit she seems the most normal yeah yeah i gotta spend a life with you well i would fuck ice cream lady because you could just see she's she's a submissive she well she's she's not a she's i just think you see her licking the ice cream it's kind of sexy you start thinking about other things that might go down if you guys were having sex. And then I'm going to marry sandwich guy because he has stable energy. If you take away the way he's eating the sandwich, you look at him and you go, that's-
Starting point is 00:43:59 You're looking in his eyes and you're saying that's stable energy? I think this is a guy who has a 401k and owns his house. Look at his teeth. This is a guy that serves milkshakes to children. That's a legitimate occupation, but you made it sound so dirty. Because he does it in a bad way.
Starting point is 00:44:19 Look at his white button-up shirt. This guy's a serial killer. But you guys have to understand. This is Dexter's dad. Something you guys are refusing to understand is this picture was taken in the 1970s. Yeah, and he looks like a modern-day serial killer. He does look a little bit like the Lovely Bones.
Starting point is 00:44:40 Yeah, big Lovely Bones energy, definitely. I'm not going to say the character's name. I'm not going to say the guy from Lovely Bones. He looks like Lovely Bones energy, definitely. I'm not going to say the character's name. I'm not going to say the guy from Lovely Bones. He looks like Lovely Bones. And the guy on the right is kind of like a Sacha Baron Cohen type. Absolutely Borat vibes. So you're killing him. I kill Borat.
Starting point is 00:45:00 I kill Borat. All right. Because there's just, there's no defending the way that he's drinking. I think it might be like a culturally Italian way to drink wine. Yeah, I think you're right about that, actually. If it is cultural, I pray to God it's Italian and not something else. Because I've gone so negative on it now. No, I'm pretty confident it's Italian.
Starting point is 00:45:21 If it's anything, it's Italian. I can go negative on Italian. It's like Italian or like maybe greek it's a communal drinking technique so that your lips aren't touching the thing and you're spreading your germs to everyone which yeah there's a restaurant in chicago that like some some of the wealthier sales people i know used to go to and put it on their instagram stories and they would go around and it would be the server would have a pitcher of wine and just like pour it to your mouth. But it wasn't.
Starting point is 00:45:46 See, this is kind of a loose stream. And the streams in these stories on the Instagram were really sharp, like thin, sharp, deliberate streams of wine. When we stop this recording, I'm going to Google this and find out that this whole part's being cut i'm gonna find out it's gonna be like a really important cultural touchstone for somebody and i'm gonna have to delete this no we're gonna keep it yeah well i that's fine i'll issue an apology i'm just saying in this photo it looks crazy and it wouldn't be what i would think of as how humans take a drink, generally across the board. That's what I will say. Yeah. And if you're demonstrating drinking, I think across all cultures, we have a very similar drinking style.
Starting point is 00:46:32 Right. And this is not it. Right. There might be special occasion drinking styles that are different in Italy. But that's not, if you say, get me a glass of water, they're not getting a bong and pouring it from the thingy. Right. Katie. Yes.
Starting point is 00:46:49 I have another question. What else are you putting on the record? Okay, next record item. Let's talk about the Before Sunrise trilogy. Before Sunrise, Before Sunset, and Before Midnight. It's one thing. It counts as one thing i decided absolutely it's a trilogy a trilogy one have you seen these movies um in the past two days i watched the first two caleb i have not seen them okay well then we have a good smattering of experience with this trilogy yeah because you're very familiar. Shelby's kind of.
Starting point is 00:47:25 And I'm... I represent our listeners who haven't seen it. Yeah. Yeah. Tell us about it. So, okay. The first movie takes place...
Starting point is 00:47:34 Directed by Richard Linklater, all three of them, starring Ethan Hawke and Julie Delpy, all three of them. And the first one starts on a train in a country that I'm forgetting at the moment.
Starting point is 00:47:46 They go to Vienna. Vienna. So they're in Vienna and they meet on a train. Ethan Hawke is American. Julie Delpy is French, as they are in real life. And it's just sort of like a meandering talky movie where they're walking through Vienna, having just met and like getting to know each other and having a nice time. And then the movie ends and she's getting back on the train
Starting point is 00:48:09 and I'm getting all emotional. Katie's sobbing, by the way. Guys, you don't see it, but there are tears streaming down her face. She's using two tears of tissue. They decide that they're going to meet again. They fall in love through the movie, you know, throughout this evening together. And they decide that they're going to meet right there again,
Starting point is 00:48:31 six months from that moment. And they don't exchange phone numbers or anything. This is like 1994, I think, or three, the movie came out. 1994. Okay. So it's 94. So they're just giving each other's word that in six months, they'll be on this platform again, meeting again, because they decide that they like kind of love each other. And then the second movie before Sunset came out in 2003. 2003. So a full nine years later,
Starting point is 00:49:01 starring the same people and you pick up the story and find out that, um, well, I don't want to ruin it for, well, whatever. It's them meeting up again. Well, and we're nine years in the future in the movie and in real life, which I think is very cool. Right? Yeah. Kind of boyhood vibes. Very cool. Um, so it's, it's the first time they've seen each other again. That's a spoiler, but they haven't seen each other in the nine years and they meet up again. And, and it's another movie where they're just just now they're in Paris and they're walking around and talking about their lives and what's happened. And then when did Before Midnight come out, Shelby? 2014, I believe. So that's another nine years. Right. That makes sense. So another
Starting point is 00:49:38 nine years, you meet up with them again and see what they're up to again. And they are gorgeous movies. Richard Linklater is, I just love him so much. I think he makes incredible movies and has incredible insight into the human condition and all that kind of stuff. And I think on a practical level, like giving that trilogy of movies to aliens, they can see how humans age and what humans look like, because you're looking at the same two people over how many years is that? A lot, 94 to 2014. Well, and also you're getting to see like the way their opinions change over time too,
Starting point is 00:50:18 because they're so young in the first one and they're talking from that perspective. And I guess I don't know about the third, but in the second, they're even like, like they say something about like, isn't it crazy that at the time every sexual experience was like an event and now it's like, I don't care, like a sexual experience. And it's like that from someone who's like understanding humanity is so cool. It shows like just the way that human life evolves and like changes and turns. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I saw Before Sun sunrise like the day after i graduated from college so i basically was their age when that movie happens and i was like this is the best movie i've ever seen it means so much to me everything they're saying i relate to so much and then you watch the same movies i watch
Starting point is 00:50:59 them a lot i watch them maybe like once a year you see how you start to relate to the older versions of them as you get older i i represent the listeners who haven't seen it and i'm wondering as a review from someone who knows it really well if i'm somebody who hypothetically um gets devastated by being reminded of the passage of time and human mortality in general. And I'm not. But I know people who are. I'm very cool. You're not. You love aging. You're actually excited about it.
Starting point is 00:51:31 Right. I have no fears about the way that time takes us. Is this going to be beautiful or sad or both? It's beautiful and sad. It's both. I mean, it's really a gut. The second one in particular is kind of a gut punch because you're, you're seeing these people again for the first time in nine years and they're seeing each other for the first time. And think about when you meet up with a friend that like
Starting point is 00:51:55 you haven't seen since college and you start and you're like, how are you? And they're in, you're like, great. And then, but if you spent like six hours together, by the end of those six hours, you'd be like, well, actually, like this person died. Right. You see them like settle into the realities of their lives. I mean, it's just so brilliant the way that they've structured that second movie where it does start with that. Like, well, tell me everything good that's going on. And, you know, they're like basically lying to each other. And then it all sort of comes out in this big, like emotional scene that both of them aren't doing that great.
Starting point is 00:52:24 And just thinking back to that experience that they had, which was so rare, and there's something they say in that second movie that always hits me. Sorry, Caleb, if you start crying right now just by me mentioning it. And I will. But I forget who says it, but one of them says something like, I guess when you're young, just believe there'll be many people with whom you connect with. Later in life, you realize it only happens a few times. Yeah, you can screw it up, you know, misconnect.
Starting point is 00:52:52 The world just seems so open to you and you're so open and want to connect with people that you think your whole life will be filled with just meeting special people and making these connections. And then you get older and you realize that that only happens a few times. And it's like, they right, we're having fun. They like missed out on this connection when they were younger because they didn't meet up again on the train platform. And it's like, damn, we should have like taken advantage of that. Cause this kind of thing doesn't happen all that often. So it's all discussions like that. I mean, it's like relatable. Cause it's relatable because it's not so cinematic where it's also paired with like someone dying in a car crash and then there's no like melodrama. It's truly just long conversation.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Yeah. It's like kind of devastating, but you're just like in these conversations with them. So it's like digestible. But you've got to watch these films, dude. And I will. With the aliens. I think also something that i think particularly you would like about it caleb is that you are you've talked about before like the charm of like having a really nice interaction with someone in passing in it and then just being like that was really nice yeah is that they had that for like a very i mean it was sustained i
Starting point is 00:54:02 think you're usually talking about it as like a nice interaction with someone on the bus but like right obviously this sustains through a night but then once they don't meet up on the train there's kind of an expectation at least doesn't hit well in both of their minds event is that they will never see each other again after that like that's just it right but they still had like this like incredible and then they do end up seeing each other again. That's crazy. Yeah. I mean, it's, it is that thing that's like beautiful and deeply sad. It's, it's one of those feelings that I wish I had never learned there were words for.
Starting point is 00:54:34 Like we used to just have feelings, but now every two months, everyone gets, you know, people get online and tell us, oh, you know, I live in Brussels and we call this. The Gürgenschlacht. Kerflamden-Doof. And it's like, well, I, you know i live in brussels and we call this the gergenstadt kerflomden doof and it's like well i you know i felt unique um but yeah it feels like that um we need to ask katie one more thing you would delete what is one thing in all of human existence that you would delete from the records entirely? And before you tell us, we need to tell you. It doesn't have to be like the really big things like war or famine or like poverty.
Starting point is 00:55:16 Climate change. We know. Because we aren't wanting that either. Yeah. So you can just make it something else. All right. I mean, I have something in mind i have a feeling maybe one of your past guests has said it because i think we all agree that this thing needs to go away i just i think maybe you've probably discussed this before but my thing
Starting point is 00:55:36 that i'm deleting is twitter no nobody's said it yet babe and it's brave to say it It is brave Go on Twitter is I mean it's just It's just bad news And I say that as someone that is on Twitter Like nine hours a day
Starting point is 00:55:58 And I've built a career Basically off of my Twitter But I'm really realizing the toll that it's taken on my life in that every detail of every bad thing that is occurring all the time, every second is available to me like this. And that has really, we all know, it's really bad for your mental health and has caused the downfall of American
Starting point is 00:56:25 society, like Donald Trump on Twitter. I mean, it's all just so fucking deranged. Like I just started to think about what a world would be like without Twitter. And it sounds really great. We'd have to just get our news from various sources so that, I don't know, maybe things could be more reputable because you have to learn about certain things from different types of places. And Donald Trump has, if he wants to declare nuclear war on someone, he has to get on TV and do it. He can't just pop off a tweet. Don't make it so easy for him. You have to call a news team. And wait for them to arrive. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:06 Get them in here. Get the cameras. I'm going to write up the thing. Put it on the teleprompter. And then they have to choose to broadcast it. Yeah. It's really interesting, though, Katie, the angle. Because you and I have a very similar angle on it.
Starting point is 00:57:17 And Shelby, too. That as creatives, it's like getting attention on Twitter took my career overnight what I could have spent 10 more years trying to get to no avail. Like if I was just doing stand up and sketch live in Chicago, it's great and it's fun. But Twitter really does get you access to things that you wouldn't otherwise have. And it's nuts because then in that way, it becomes currency for you to be on top of all the horrible things that are happening and have something to say about them. And so it makes it valuable. It makes it life sustaining. It determines whether or not you can pay your rent if you're up on all of this shit. But then as an artist, you're like, I don't want to make a video
Starting point is 00:58:06 today. Or I don't want to, as a human being, read that the worst person in the world just made another billion dollars or whatever. But you have to, to some extent, until you make enough money or success or whatever it is to bow out of it altogether. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's a horrible position to be put in. Yeah. It's awful. It's horrible. But then, Katie, we became friends through Twitter. I know. And many of my friends have come through Twitter. So I, obviously I know that this isn't going to happen. So I feel safe just putting it out there
Starting point is 00:58:38 that I would like to see a society exist without Twitter. I think it would be interesting. You guys became friends. Caleb and I became enemies through twitter yeah we became friends and shelby and i became enemies because you were tweeting all that shit about her yeah yeah you hate when that happens i was doing one of those things where someone searches a name and then every bad thing they could have said but i just searched my name instead right they're like they were searching like at shelby wolstein wants to kill poor. And then they were finding stuff where you said, I want to kill poor people. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:06 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:07 When someone gets canceled, like this thing that just happened with being dead yesterday, do you guys go and look in your Twitter to make sure that you have never said anything? Like, like I know that I've never said anything like overtly racist or like, I just know that I haven't because I'm not like that. I don't say like, like dangerous
Starting point is 00:59:26 things on my Twitter. It's just not my brand. But, but I do even so like I have this thing of like, oh, someone said something bad about Jewish people. So then I like look to see what I've said about Jewish people. What the fuck have you said about Jewish people? Nothing. I looked it up. I haven't said anything about Jewish people. No, I joined twitter so late i mean i guess i joined in like 2000 maybe 11 but i didn't start tweeting until like a year ago so that's good i'm not worried about it there can't be anything on there my big fear with that stuff is well first of all i don't worry about getting canceled really because i just don't i we don't have to get into all that but i don't worry about it that much but i will say i search keywords around certain things katie like you were saying when when it comes up because not because i've ever tweeted something like
Starting point is 01:00:13 insanely out of pocket about any group but because we've evolved so much on certain things that i look back to things yeah i tweeted when i was you know i've been tweeting since 2009 i was like 15 and i said shit that now i'm like even i was poor but i said shit about like working class people which is a group i'm a part of that i look back now and i'm like oh we don't talk that way anymore you know yeah that stuff gives me pause it's the it's the evolution of the way that we talk that you just gotta check i mean yeah i've been tweeting since 2009 too and i was a bit older thanks for reminding me how old i am i knew it i knew you were gonna i knew you were gonna rake me over the coals for that well i'm like i'm like eight years older than you it makes me feel
Starting point is 01:01:01 bad uh no it doesn't um i love our ages i love our ages and what they mean to each other i love our ages and i hope they never change i'm addicted to our ages uh but yeah you just gotta go back and just like do a little vibe check sometimes make sure you're all good because you wouldn't want a bean dad to happen to you oh yeah no one's gonna look at my facebook but like i was using Facebook as texts. Like those were private. Those were wall to wall, but they were private conversations. And I was I mean, I was saying like, that's so gay.
Starting point is 01:01:33 And also being like, LOL, kill yourself. But like, like at the time, it was like people were talking that way. And now I'm like, yikes, absolutely delete. Hey, even today, some people are gay and sometimes you do want to kill yourself it's like these things exist in the world this isn't untrue okay i'll undelete them yeah repost them katie what did we not get to we have a couple seconds to round up anything you didn't say um my, my final item, which we can just talk about quickly is I wanted to include some paparazzi photos because I think I would,
Starting point is 01:02:12 I would want it to include a sort of explainer at the top, which is like, these are the people that we idolized and we love them so much that we had to like follow them around and take pictures of all the human things that they were doing. But I want these paparazzi photos that are very human moments. Like a stars they're just like us. Exactly. Rip those pages from Us Weekly.
Starting point is 01:02:35 But the Ben Affleck Dunkin' Donuts paparazzi photos recently. In one snapshot, I think so much emotion is expressed so much humanity jonah hill dropping the coffee yeah oh my god it's the best photo that's the one where it's hovering yeah yes yeah it's brilliant that is the best picture ever taken that should be national geographics photo of the year for whatever year it was taken yes i believe that i think it was 2019 so okay yeah let's do it let's call them retroactive um there's photos of kirsten dunst and jake gyllenhaal eating lunch together and she's like stuffing spinach in her face with her fingers and then she's like feeding food to jake and i don't know it's very beautiful what
Starting point is 01:03:18 about the um the megan trainer and the spy kids guy leaving a sex shop picture. Do you know what I'm talking about? No, I do not know what you're talking about. There's a picture of Meghan Trainor and the kid from Spy Kids, her husband now, I believe. He's no longer a kid. Yeah. Yeah, he's an adult now. Unfortunately for him, he has aged. But the kid, the curly butterfingers from Spy Kids and Meghan Trainor leaving a sex shop with just like a bag of dildos.
Starting point is 01:03:44 Good for them. that's sick and people really publicized it my big one is um the paparazzi photos of nicole kidman leaving her divorce proceedings uh with tom cruise i almost said tom hanks she it's nicole kidman walking out and just like she like has her arms sort of like out by her sides and she's like breathing in the air and the sun is hitting her face and you see the insane amount of relief that she feels having left this building. And it's just like, it's so powerful that I think much like that photo you guys brought up of people eating and drinking to show, like, I think that that just is such a perfect snapshot of like a
Starting point is 01:04:25 human emotion. A lot of my stuff, I guess all of my stuff has to do with like human emotion. And I think that that's just like the perfect boom. Yeah, you can feel that photo when you look at it. Yeah, that's so rare to feel that kind of joy and release. I can almost tell you how often they fought based on just that picture it's so delightful Katie thank you so much for doing this thank you guys so much for having me Katie thank you so much
Starting point is 01:04:57 so much so much thank you so much we literally think the world of you we think you're so funny so oh my god no you guys are so funny no no you're so yeah i start going very southern thanks katie it's too bad you have to die now we kill over all of our guests. Oh, no. You guys didn't mention that up top. Well, yeah, because no one would do it, babe.
Starting point is 01:05:29 Is someone in here now? Yes. Look behind you. Who is it? Wait, who's killing me? You at least sent someone cool to kill me, right? It's Skeeter Ulrich. Or Skeet Ulrich.
Starting point is 01:05:39 Skeeter Ulrich. He's going to do it the way he did it in the movie. Yeah, and scream. And he's young. It's young Skeet young skeetle rich hot skeetle rich okay that's fine okay come here kill me let's do it that was a Hiddem Original.

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