Keeping Records - We All Like to Get Choked Nowadays (with Liza Treyger)

Episode Date: June 25, 2021

Shelby talks about her shaving injury. Caleb is displeased, but also preoccupied with speculative workplace drama. Comedian Liza Treyger almost leaves the podcast early due to the graphic description of Shelby's injury, but sticks it out to ensure her Golden Record is delivered to the aliens. Liza's Artifacts Britney Spears's catalog of MTV Making the Video episodes (audio-visual) Miley Cyrus defending Kennedy Davenport and drag to Joe Rogan (audio-visual)  Ludacris, "What's Your Fantasy" (audio)  Bojack Horseman (audio-visual)  Emma Chamblerain's YouTube channel (audio-visual) Follow Liza on Twitter and Instagram, and listen to That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast wherever you listen to podcasts. Follow the show @keepingrecordspod Advertise on Keeping Records via Gumball.fm See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is a HeadGum Original. In 1977, NASA sent two solid gold records into space, so that aliens might find them and understand life on Earth. I send greetings on behalf of the people of our planet and friendly wishes to all who may encounter this voyager. Now, we're making new records with our friends. Bonjour tout le monde. Konnichiwa.

Hola y saludo satou. Assalamu alaikum. We step out of our solar system into the universe seeking only peace and friendship. We know full well that our planet and all its inhabitants are but a small part of this immense universe that surrounds us. Hello from the children of planet Earth. Well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well. Shelby. Caleb.

Honestly, be and be honest because sometimes you have sometimes you tell little fibs what's going on with you it's an awesome question well um i can't what's what is going on with me do you have something for me to say you live no not at all no i mean i did a lot of laundry yeah you did some laundry you went rock climbing recently you have a giant cut on your leg that you won't stop talking about. I have the biggest cut on my leg. I have the biggest cut on my leg.

Unfortunately, it is because I'm like a 13-year-old girl learning to shave her legs. I did cut my legs shaving. In such an insane way, I could say the grossest thing in the world right now, and I don't want to because- Is it the part about the leftover skin in the trash can? Well, yeah, I did put the leftover skin in a trash can.

It was like using a vegetable peeler on my leg. It was the craziest. Joelle Wolstein. I mean, and now the thing is, is that it's healing. And in that process, it's really hurting more. It's itching all the time because it's sort of like scabbing and hurting. So that's been pretty difficult for me to go through. And it's um really hurting more it's itching all the time because it's sort of like scabbing and hurting so that's been pretty difficult for me to go through and it's actually happened it's been ongoing for the past like three recordings i think so people keep hearing me and not knowing

that i'm going through something i know anything about healing it's this it always itches it hurts and then it feels better and then it hurts some more and it keeps going like that until you're all good. And I am just waiting for the day that it itches so much that I accidentally get rid of the scab, you know, and that happens and then it sort of starts the process over again in a pretty powerful way. But yeah, I have been struggling with that. That is so true.

I've bought more band-aids than anyone ever has. I was gushing blood on my bathroom floor yeah well moving on to me because that's gross um what are you gonna talk about your head again there's a very real possibility that i have internal brain bleeding but that's actually not what i was gonna talk about i i was gonna talk about um i'm spiraling right now at this very moment because i um had a table read for um a job and i texted um some people afterwards something that i thought was pretty funny and they ignored you no one has texted me back and i'm like oh getting fired after the first table read that's actually awesome no i love that um so you know if i were any of the people on the text people that could fire you or

just people that you'll have to work with pretty intimately. I don't know. I, you know, the thing about me and the entertainment industry is I don't know who does anything. Like, I don't know. Like if you told me that a writer's assistant fired and hired people, I'd be like, incredible. I have no idea. I don't know what a producer is. I don't fully know what a director's job is.

I just show up. I've never heard some of these words before. Producer and director threw you off? Assistant. We, assistant, okay, tight. Look, hey, to be honest with you, we've talked enough about me and my anxieties. We have to bring in our guest today.

So true. She's truly an incredible standup comedian, one of my favorites. She got half hour specials on Comedy Central and Netflix, an album called Glitter Cheese. She hosts her own podcast about Wanda to Rest SVU that I'm sure she will talk about. Which we are truly addicted to the show. So that's huge for this household.

It's called That's Messed Up. That's Messed Up. It's an SVU podcast. And she played a freaking waitress in the King of Staten Island made by Apatow Productions. Maybe you've heard of it. Everybody put your paws and fins together for our dear friend, Lisa trager hello thank you it's an honor i'm so happy to be here but i can't believe you made me listen to like sanding down a scab yeah yeah really disgusting lisa really really unwell okay it's not really my fault like i didn't choose this life this life chose me you went

rock climbing though that's a choice but this didn't choose this life. This life chose me. You went rock climbing though. That's a choice. But this didn't happen rock climbing. Rock climbing is a choice. This didn't happen rock climbing. Oh, did I make that up? This happened to me in my life. Oh no, she went rock climbing. I go rock climbing.

That is a choice that I make. I can't believe I made up that your injury was rock climbing related. I do have a rock climbing related injury, but it's different. I had rock climbing in high school one semester and i threatened to kill a girl and i had like they were like you're gonna fail unless you earn her trust back what to earn her trust back over the semester to the point where she would let me belay her and this was a gym class yeah and you can't make that part of your grade they can't make they can't make that your peers trust you be part of your grade. They were like, all right, physical education, three tenants, physical fitness, emotional trust.

Yeah. It was rough. It was a hard time. I will never rock climb again. I mean, I would never rock climb to begin with. I will say that my college, when i first got to the campus the like semester before or something or recently before i got there they had gotten a huge brand new rock wall and this like gorgeous gym that they made and everyone was obsessed with it and i was like

this looks horrible i could never climb up there and i couldn't no what i got into in college was racquetball and i want to get back in okay lisa anytime you want to go to a racquetball and I want to get back in. Okay. Lisa, anytime you want to go to a racquetball court, I will meet you there. I'm constantly trying to do that. I did that a lot in college. I would go to the JCC, the Jewish community center. You guys are familiar. Okay. I'm familiar. That's where me and my dad would play. Okay. I will buy a racquet and a ball if you're down to find it. I'm so down. Do you guys play backgammon? No. Because that's my new thing too. I don't think I've ever played backgammon, but we can get into it for sure.

I would do it for you. Yeah. Everybody on the call who's Jewish, say so. Yeah, me. And you know that. We're so, yeah. Yeah, my last name's Wolstein

and I look this way. I can go to the Jewish Community Center with you guys, can't I? Yeah. You have to ask three times. That's one of my favorite things. I will ask three times. I'll ask five times.

I don't care. Did you learn that from Sex and the City or did you know that before? Oh, I took an intro to Judaism class when I was living in Chicago and I learned it there at Temple Shalom on Lakeshore Drive. Wow. Temple Shalom. And I really liked that class. It was really fun.

Yeah. Judaism has a lot of like fun symbolism and art and like snacks there i can imagine how that's a fun class there's lots of cool stories yeah and it was cool because i was i've always been the thing about religion my religion growing up christianity always stressed me out was the hard definitive psychotic answers and then i went to a jewish temple and i was like what are the answers and they were like we don't know and i was like oh my god i love that you know what i mean that felt very cool to me yeah no hell ever you know learn to forgive it's nice it's nice it's a

nice little thing yeah you ask a lot of questions three times in fact well at the passover table i always talked about izzy he would go to school and come back i would i saw the cat that was fun we got to get the cat out of the frame keep going i'm so sorry this is unprofessional no i don't even fully remember it but every year i had a pat i had to read a story about a kid and his parents instead of asking did you learn anything in school would say did you ask any good questions in school today? And I would read that every year. That's cute. That is cute. Yeah.

Cute is good. Lisa, do you have any children? I don't have children. I'm actually child free by choice. And I will never have kids. And I'm proudly child free. I don't know if you asked as a funny joke. No, no, no.

Literally, you answered so sincerely. And it made me remember that that's actually a super sexist question. But to me, it was funny because it's funny to imagine comics having kids in general. No, but my whole social life, I think you guys are a little younger than me. I I'm an aunt to 50 children. All of my social engagements are around naps, are around bedtimes, are around when my friends can have a sitter. I'm meeting a new baby on Tuesday.

I am constantly- Yeah, congrats. And all the kids like me. And I put in minimal effort. I think they sense my spirit because my friend Kara, my co-host of my podcast, like Rosie, they are like, who's your best friend? Lisa. Lisa gave me this.

Where's Lisa's house? I got to go. And so it feels obviously good but i am beloved and i'm just constantly playing with children that are not my own you could be a children's game you should be you could be like a host of a children's tv show i could see like a freddie spaghetti type deal our mutual friend sabrina jalis did host a child survivor in canada did she i didn't know she did that. Yes. That's how she made her money to buy her first property

was hosting a child survivor and things got wild. We have to talk to her about that. Yes. Yes. Children crying, challenging. There's periods.

Like it's wild. I mean, we hang out with Wolfie, her son, and he's, he's kind of a child survivor on his own. Yeah.

He's running around. Yeah. I saw him yesterday i was like do you need shoes or a shirt or we're just taking a walk like this uh yeah he's he's a man of the mountains he's a man in the mountains he gave me when i most recently saw him he gave me a rock as a gift i kept it you know he's pretty he thinks a little bit differently he's outside of the box i like him yeah he was sort of asking to be spun in a chair for, I would say, 10 minutes. And eventually we thought, hey, are you getting dizzy? And he said, yeah.

Yeah, for sure. That's drugs for them. Did you guys used to choke each other out in junior high? I was too scared. We did like cans of things, like asthma things. What are they called? Inhalers. Inhalers.

We would do inhalers of like things that would make you pass out oh wow we choked each other out did anyone ever get hurt lisa no one died or anything but we would videotape ourselves because people would go insane and then you'd watch yourself and be like i did that because you would have no oxygen and it was fucked i would feel really bad about how i looked on that tape I you ever like see yourself doing something like even just like running or like shooting a basketball or something someone records on their phone and then you see the video and you're like why did my face morph why didn't I just look normal or plain I was recently on an HBO max show called pause with Sam J wearing a dildo fucking a watermelon. And I would say

it was tough to people were screenshotting it being like, Oh, my friend, and I'm like, you cannot send me these photos. I was a video that I posted on Twitter. And I at one point, I guess like, like rolled one eye, the other I was forward and people kept commenting with a screenshot of like that face that i made of being like this face lol and i was like enough i didn't know i made the face it's such a small part of the video can you guys just like not i like oh oh i love when people do that when people when people compliment me on a choice like they'll be like oh my god the way you made yourself have 17 chins at this part was such a funny. I'm like, didn't know I did that, babe. Really?

Please don't screenshot that back to me. Don't want to see it. Don't want to know it. Don't want to know you notice. Don't want to know anyone has. Yeah, it's people are rude. Sometimes, sometimes I went because there's now photographers at every fucking show. And sometimes I'm like, do you hate me?

Are you not good at your job? Or do I look terrible constantly? But like, sometimes I'm like art do you hate me are you not good at your job or do I look terrible constantly but like sometimes I'm like why would you do this you know this is not gonna make me happy or do they see some the beauty of something that I don't see but it really is in the eye of the holder of the camera and one guy I remember taking my photo and I was like just make sure I don't have a double chin and he goes I don't know if I can guarantee that. And I went, well then you don't get to take my photo. Well then no picture. How about that? Yeah.

I mean, I don't know if I can guarantee that is the biggest drag I've ever heard in my whole life. Also, when people do show pictures, everyone else on the lineup, their pictures will look truly stunning. Like they will look gorgeous.

They're always doing like a perfect like act out where they're like moving. And then it gets to me and I look so stupid. Like I've never stand-up before in my life i look i look uninteresting i look kind of excited i don't know how and it's like i know i was having a good time up there i don't know how it happens yeah i'm like are these all my enemies have i made all these enemies or but sometimes it's like maybe you're just not that good of a photographer that's what i choose to believe anyone who's ever taken a bad picture of

me bad photographer anyone who's taking a good picture of me annie lebowitz yeah have you guys had it where you talk about fran lebowitz and the person you're talking to thinks you're talking about annie lebowitz the whole time no caleb once was watching a fran lebowitz documentary and i genuinely thought it was about to be about annie about any woods in the kitchen cooking being like all right get to the pictures and she's like living in new york i have a really important question and it's this lisa what would you put on your golden records okay um i'm so glad you're starting this um i this was really hard good to pick five things it was really hard because you also want to be cool but not because i was like spice girls lollipops from limited to and i was like you're trying too hard and then it would just be the simpsons you're not trying enough so it was like really um tough but number

one um to me britney spears is the queen of the universe her and her hottest and her prime is the hottest woman to ever exist a close second second is Pam Anderson in her prime. But other than that, to me, it's Britney is everything. And MTV early 2000s, late 90s, that's like my wheelhouse of joy. I still mostly, like I wore a Victoria's Secret pink shirt this week.

I really live in that era. And MTV's making of a video was the best. I love the end where it's like. Five, four, three, two, one. And now the world premiere of the Britney Spears movie. You drive me crazy. So I picked Britney Spears' catalog of all her episodes of making the video on MTV.

I love that. I have to ask you, this is just, and listen, Lisa, I know you might not like this. This is my job as a journalist. I have to ask these kinds of questions and listen Lisa I know you might not like this this is my job as a journalist I have to ask these kind of questions they're difficult for me and for you if you had to pick one above all the rest what would it be um oops I did it again oh you didn't care at all actually easiest question ever I did my whole journalist speech and you're like no this is easy I mean I love lucky as well I mean all like it would be between Lucky and Oops, but Oops, like those highlights, those frosted eyeshadow with a nice clear gloss, the latex, the reference to Titanic. I loved her. I loved it. And then the director of that directed

Everybody by the Backstreet Boys, I think like Joseph Connors, and he does Taylor Swift videos. So he's also or was it that guy, Nigel? But whatever. The director was prolific, too. But Britney, to me, like her tan, her highlights, her hair, everything. I loved it so much. That red latex jumpsuit is presently on display and has been like my whole life. Well, not my whole life. Ever since the video came out on display at Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. In Ohio. In Cleveland, Ohio. I've been to Cleveland 15 times, never cared to go there, but no one ever told me that fact. And next time I'm fucking going.

Yeah, there you go. You gotta go. I was like, I don't need to see Mick Jagger's coat, but I'd never, I wanna see this. No, but you do need to see Britney Spears' red latex suit, which I have seen there. Honestly, Lisa, you should do a standup special in a mock of that suit. Yeah, I would. You. Honestly, Lisa, you should do a, you should do a standup special in a mock of that suit.

Yeah, I would. You need to look really, that's like a full on four month fitness regime. I think you don't, you can't have, you know, you just can't have anything out of there.

You need to look perfect like our queen. Well, and you need the room to be really cool because, um, latex is going to really get, it's going to get sweaty. It's my dream um britney halloween costume do you know that um when she wore live it was like a pink latex tube top with white latex pants with pink like knee pads no is this like before you're like do i sound old like do you care about we're huge Britney heads in this household. I'm searching that outfit though.

But I'm looking right now when she wore a blue, like almost mock denim latex vest. Oh, wow. With a faux denim latex pants. And that is an aesthetic. Oh, I see what you're talking about here. Yeah, with the pigtails. The knee pads and the pigtails and the big chunky sneakers.

Oh, yeah. Something horrible that happened to me. Well, I guess that I did to myself, but also kind of. Anyway, when I was growing up in the closet, I tried so hard not to be interested in anything I thought was gay. So there are so many references now that I'm like, no, Britney Spears was prime things I should have been paying attention to. But if I ever heard someone talking about Britneyney spears outfits i'd be like whatever you know i mean and now i don't know it but did you ever go oh i'd fuck britney like did you ever go i don't know if i ever said stuff like that like i don't think i was ever really talking like

i remember i don't think i was sheltered at all but i remember i vividly i was in like eighth grade and some guys were talking about coming and I was like what I mean I wasn't saying anything but in my head I was like what is coming like literally I had no idea what was going on and all these guys I guess were already like hooking up like not having sex but like getting hand jobs and stuff I mean I just thought it was so crazy when guys would say in like sixth grade like I want to fuck so and so I'd be like what's going on no the early sexual kids i remember yeah that's like so shocking when you hear about someone sucking a dick and you're like

what i didn't know we were there yet yeah yeah it's really it's really bad i was a camp counselor listeners know that because i can't shut up about it but my camp jew camp Jew camp camp in Belgrade Maine and it like I started being a counselor my kids were 10 and then I like stayed with them until they were like 13 14 and then they were like kissing boys and like talking faces and I was like I'm not saying that you're not allowed to do these things I'm saying I don't want to hear about it because it is freaky to me you guys are freaky and it weirded me out so much they would I don't want to hear about it because it is freaky to me. You guys are freaky. It weirded me out so much. They would be like,

I want to hook up with blah, blah. I was like, you can't hook up with anyone. You're a child, you're a baby. Well, it's also jealousy a little bit. I'm rewatching Laguna Beach and it's like seeing these teens like fucking and being confident and flirty and going to sushi dinners.

I'm like, fuck, that's such a cool life to just be like. High school in California is the biggest flex anyone ever has. Caleb and I will to just be high school in california is the biggest flex anyone ever has caleb and i will drive past a high school and be like what do you mean yeah kids grew up here that's insane that's insane they shouldn't be able to yeah they're going to cabo and i'm like fuck cool you guys are cool they're like taking boats to like balboa island and you're like what do you mean just like for the day that sucks I mean it

rocks but it sucks for me but yeah also I guess I need to talk about like the specialness of making of a video and like what the aliens would get from it I guess is like I love seeing them lip sync how many takes it takes the choreography like the effort it goes in and I loved learning how shitty things looked but then how good they looked in the music video because you're like that set doesn't look as good so you learn about cameras too which I like yeah and movie magic yes exactly and hair and makeup and her being nice to everyone on set and just how everything's a team effort you know she really did always come off so sweet still does yes now in kind of a way where i'm worried but before in a way that i wasn't worried it was just

like oh do you guys remember i'm gonna cry do you guys remember do you guys remember when she posted a video of her dancing on instagram and people could hear her ankle crack no why would that make me cry and people are like people are like commenting or is there some reason that she had to post something like i never said i was the best dancer in the world but i just like to dance it's fun yeah no it really broke my heart it's like let her dance she captioned that on another video of her dancing being like i just do it to let loose it's it's what i like to do and you're like okay leave her alone she why should she have to defend oh wait i have a question okay chris crocker go off

lisa um if you had to choose would you rather the aliens want to be britney or be with britney like do you want them to be attracted to her or want them to aspire to be her oh wow can this so can i bet want to be her want to be her yeah yeah we need more britneys in the world i feel yeah because if they do have like chameleon powers it would be really great if Wow. So I bet want to be her, want to be her. Yeah. Yeah. We need more Brittneys in the world, I feel. Yeah, because if they do have like chameleon powers, it would be really great if they could make that happen. Because she changed the world. So if other people were able to hit what like be what Britney was, who knows what like future magic. Because all the pop girls today, everyone looks up to Britney. Like when she was in Vegas, Miley was in the audience. Selena, like everyone loved her.

And through Britney, we got so much more music so if an alien became britney-esque we who knows what we can get from them yeah i i have a fact that you guys might like um britney pays all her dancers on retainer because she likes working with who she's comfortable with so she doesn't want them getting other jobs but pays them the whole year whether they're working or not opposite of taylor swift who was like don't work for katie perry but i won't pay you a dime and fuck you katie perry and it's like if you want you to keep your dancers you pay them on retainer so i just like that about her i love that more people should do that honestly that's a great fact you have to pay the you have to pay people what they're worth and i think she um she was loyal to people and worked with people for a

long time and i appreciate that about her pink also does that pink works with people for a very long time if you're in pink's band uh if you get into pink's band you're in pink's band until like until you have a reason not to be like it's she's very loyal to the people she works with i just watched her documentary she simply can't trust anyone to the people she works with. I just watched her documentary. Well, that's because she simply can't trust anyone to fall from ribbons with her. She's like, there's only so many people in Hollywood willing to fall from a ribbon.

Willing to fall from the ribbons. Pink is so cool. Pink is so cool. I mean, that's another person. Britney was a big person who i feel there are certain musicians who and i don't know if this is stupid to say because maybe it's just like duh but there are certain musicians who have a really huge like um you inspired me to be myself culture culture around their fandom that like other people don't you know i mean like people like pink and britney

and like i feel like katie perry does have a big one too where like they're constantly people crying in the audience and being like i didn't know who i was until i heard your music which is different lady gaga has the biggest yeah it's like it's different than just liking the music but gaga has it i've said it before i'll say it again people are gonna get mad at me again i get the way that gaga has is scary to me. I find it scary. Shelby, this might not be what you want to hear, Shelby, but I do have a Lady Gaga shower curtain. That's totally fine. I like that people like her.

I went to one concert. How can that be fine? That's definitely part of the cult energy. That's definitely sorry, Lisa. I love you. But that's definitely part of the cult energy to have the shower curtain. Yeah, but you know, cult is part of my family. My mom's in a cult. I'm fine with people. Wait, what cult? It's. But that's definitely part of the cult energy to have the shower curtain. Yeah, but you know cult is part of my family. My mom's in a cult.

I'm fine with people being in cults. Wait, what cult? It's called Psy. She's going to listen to this. I lost a friend to Landmark, so I just didn't know which cult. What is Landmark? It's like you pay $500 and you go to intensive self-help group therapy. And then you get sucked in.

And so I was the girl that was brought on the day where it's like bring a friend yeah and i was like i'm not signing up bitch but she really delved in and i she might still be in wait speaking of pop divas on podcasts lisa so my number two uh but also my number one i don't know but um I don't know if you remember Miley Cyrus was on an episode of Joe Rogan and I never really fully connect to Joe Rogan but I had to watch my Miley and he so she loves drag queens and drag race and so he didn't know what it was so she put they're putting on videos and it's kennedy davenport and she's jumping splits onto the ground and miley goes y'all it's kennedy you know kennedy is i know every single one of them they all do the same move they drop down and do the splits that's what i

think when i'm watching your shows too you know all the same stuff but yeah this this move of the murder murder charge good miley what's good what's good i mean i watched that like little bit 10 i think it's 15 seconds i mean i just told it to you verbatim i watched it over and over and anyone that posted it i was just like you're the hottest fucking bitch on this planet to me miley is like i have such a crush on her i have such a crush on her. I have such a crush on Miley. She is very sexy. She has a sexy voice. She has a sexy... When she's not doing... Wearing like Jordan jerseys and grills era

was obviously incredibly problematic. But her new like rock and roll covers kind of Joan Jett era, I'm like, girl, this should have been it all along. Yeah, but she is young and evolving. I think miley will be a staple in our lives for decades um i think she i mean dolly parton is her godmother joan jet likes her like all of these legends have been like you're our bitch let's sing together stevie

nicks like they all like her and that means something i think and she does love the music she also has nothing to prove i mean she did songs with the flaming lips, put it on SoundCloud for free. It doesn't matter. She put out an EP, which is like my favorite. I listen to it all the time. It didn't blow up. She's worth $150 million.

She doesn't need money. She doesn't need approval. She doesn't need anything. She could do what she wants. And that's like, I mean, the backyard sessions were all free. And then she did some that were for like the happy hippie foundation or

whatever. Yeah. But Joe, to me, it's like you like MMA. That's just kicking. were all free and then she did some that were for like the happy hippie foundation or whatever yeah but joe to me it's like you like mma that's just kicking how would you see a man with his dick tucked taped in his asshole wearing heels full hair makeup outfit jump in the air and do the splits on the ground like even if that every single queen does that, how is that? How is that? Every time it should be remarkable. Yeah. It's like funneled and it's on beat and it's with the song. And so like see Kennedy Davenport do that and go, I don't know.

It's kind of boring. It's just like and how quick she was to shut him down and kept going. And he was even taken aback. I mean, he laughs, but I'm sure he had a moment of like, OK. And it's like, like yeah go fuck yourself all you probably talk about is like weightlifting i don't know yeah mma is just kicking and podcasting is just talking and music is just like a lot of musicians play the same set it's like that's such a stupid criticism to be like i don't know a lot of times they do the same things it's like shut up it's not even about that

he did say like oh this I should watch it and he did it's not like he was a dick the whole time and part of his why that interview is great is she talks nonstop like he maybe says eight words but also in it what's embarrassing is he's

giving her advice on how to be famous and it's like she's got it under control babes you know she's been famous since she was like 12 dog like what are we talking about he keeps being like so do you have a weightlifting regime like who are you working out with and it's like i think miley's got the best people and like her her therapist writes book like she saw a book called like miley doesn't need your input fear factor you know what I mean it's like insane yeah I mean if Miley needs help she has people that will give her the help yeah Jolly Parton will give her some yeah like yeah the people in her circle are like the most

powerful people it's like okay she's got it she's got it handled yeah so it was just embarrassing for him to be like yeah I think you should do this to get more in line with being able to be famous for longer and it's like okay and she talks about how like she dresses up for shit because she's in the school of dolly parton so and then she goes but i rip these nails off the moment i'm out of here and i love that like i love that fucking pro my mom used to tell me that i should wear cute pajamas because you never know who you'll meet in your dreams. Isn't that kind of scary? It is, but it's cute.

That does have horrifying vibes, though. I will say it's a sweet thing to say, but ooh. No, I think what the aliens take away from this, right, is like one, drag is incredible. Yeah, because that's the thing. The first thing I wrote down on my phone when I started was Drag Race. And I'm like, you can't just say drag. Let's be more creative. But I thought this was a way to incorporate

my queen and drag. But you're understanding like, yeah, it was a really smart play. That was a really smart, dual-headed. You really, I mean, that might be one of the smarter picks. I mean, you got a woman taking down a man. You have, you know, Attitude Sass.

You have, you know, defending queer culture and i love someone that famous being a super fan of someone else you know because she follows all the queens if you go on any queen miley's following and that's cool too where it's like i love that she's also still fans of stuff yeah a-listers admitting that they're like not just into something but super fans is huge to me. I love that. Yeah, like Rihanna DMing different housewives and being like, I choose you. Like that's so cool.

Yeah, I think that's so funny. I think it's so much cooler than being like, I've been there. I'm good. Like, no. Tell us what you like. I want the aliens to know that we need to take a break. I think that'd be cool for them to understand. Welcome Bark.

Shelby, it's kind of, do you love or hate that that's become part of the pod? Well, here's the thing is, you've stopped saying it with conviction, you know? Oh, actually, you know what? Hey, good note. Welcome Bark. Was that good?

Yeah, it was better. I love when podcasts have their own lexicon those are the only ones i listen to where they have their own little language i like that we have a little language we have a little language but caleb knows that at the beginning i wasn't sold and then ever since i've gotten sold he started going okay welcome bark the fight was part of it i mean you know the chase this is life the chase the thing about life is that the chase is always the fun part and then you get what you wanted and you go ah i could have done with or without you know what i you know what i mean it's like the going after it is like so sexy and hot and then you get it you get shelby to agree to welcome bark and then you go i want to fuck somebody else you know what i mean it makes sense if you know if you know i mean we can find another thing to say at a different part in the podcast no problem

lisa we're gonna play a game called this or that It makes sense if you know what I'm talking about. Okay, I mean, we can find another thing to say at a different part in the podcast, no problem. Lisa. Lisa, we're going to play a game called This or That. This. Or That. Love it. We're going to put 60 seconds on the clock. That's so true.

60 seconds on the clock. We're going to run through a list of things that are one or the other. You'll pick one really quick. I think in theory the idea is that one goes to space one does not but ultimately it's whatever you pick you just pick what you pick the name of the game is to be quick and the time starts now catch up a ranch oh fuck ranch needing to fart or needing to sneeze? Needing to sneeze. Deal or no deal? Deal.

Stabler or Benson? Benson. Crunchy peanut butter or smooth peanut butter? Smooth. Bad breath or body odor? Body odor. Whoa. Loud neighbors or nosy neighbors?

Nosy neighbors. Store-bought or homemade? Homemade. Plans or surprises? Surprises. Jimmy Buffett or Jimmy Carter? I'll take Buffett. Chicken soup or chicken soup for the soul?

Chicken soup. Three eyes or two noses? Three eyes. Lin-Manuel Miranda or Miranda Hobbes? Miranda Hobbes. Macy Gray or Macy's Day Parade? Macy's Day Parade. Libertarian or vegetarian?

Vegetarian. Mustard as lube or lube as mustard? Lube as mustard. Okay, last one. Unlimited cocaine or limited to? Limited to. Amazing. Amazing.

Great job. Those really got through a lot. Damn. I do regret that because I love ketchup with eggs. Like I wouldn't put ranch on eggs, but ranch on a salad. Give me a Cobb salad with some ranch. Yeah, that's a hard ketchup. A ranch is actually, I think, really unfair.

For me, it's going to be ranch every time. I also am looking at crunchy peanut butter right now, but it was a mistake. Smooth is better. Smooth is better, I think. Talk me through your choice on mustard as lube or lube as mustard i don't want food in my pussy because i don't want to get an infection but don't you think eating lube would be dangerous we've all gotten lube in our mouth like yeah lube has gotten in your orifices it's not gonna kill you they can't like lube can't be poison

so you can eat it it's going inside of me either way so at that point yeah but when i put like mustard on a dog it's a sprit a tiny little you're right you're right so i can like take some tasteless or weird silicone lube you know it's fine to me the craziest choice you made was body odor over bad breath yeah that shocked body odor you like it yeah i like people's yeah i like armpits like i like it cool i'm into that that's huge i love that bad breath is like you're like it's embarrassing if you don't if you don't know that you have bad breath you could be paranoid that you have it it sucks talking to someone with bad breath then you have to talk

like do you tell them do you not but if someone's just stinky or like okay they forgot deodorant oh it's a hot day whatever they're smelling there's just less like um uncomfortableness it is something that it's like you can't really help it and there is something a little bit more charming about that than bad breath it also feels good like if you're like working at or out there playing beach volley or like you're out and about or you went rollerblading it's kind of like i smell but i had such a fun time or like i i danced so hard at this concert or i went to this club like it means you had a good time if you're like sweaty so true yeah there's different kinds of bo for sure there's like crotch bo ass bo pit bo i mean it really there's so many different ways that you can smell bad that bo is kind of broad. Bad breath is usually pretty like, it's not necessarily one note, but it's pretty specific.

To your point, Lizette, it's not a sign of anything other than maybe you ate onions or something. It's like, okay. Oh, yeah. I do have a fucked up story. So this is like from someone else, but someone had really bad breath and she was trying everything and nothing worked. She went to the doctor and in her throat was like a loose flap of skin that was like in a pouch and food was getting stuck in it so it was like rotted food in her throat no no the thought of that just made me so sick yeah no so she had to go to like an ear nose and throat specialist i guess yeah they had to

like cut out the pouch so c Caleb's about to go anyway. He doesn't have bad breath and he's about to go just to make sure. Oh God, I mean, that is how I live my life. But God, that's so gross. I mean, rotting food, it literally is, it's so, I mean, it's so gross. The idea that food can just sit in your mouth

and your teeth if you don't floss and just like be rotting in the place where you talk. It's, I don't, I can't do it. I can't imagine it. I can't, if you don't floss like in the and just like be rotting in the place where you talk it's i don't i can't do it i can't imagine it i can't but i don't floss even mike is sort of mike is like really scared like grossed out right now oh my yeah he's upset lisa you have to be flossing girl what can we do about this i don't know my dentist like every dentist i've ever been to is like you have such good teeth you were born with can you just please put some effort in like I have good teeth and I just like will refuse to brush at night or sometimes I've just never flossed ever as a consistent person and I bought the plastic things I bought the thing I bought it all and like my mom flosses all the time it's not like I was raised by wolves and I don't it's like my one self-destructive weird thing i don't know i get it it's fucking hard i used to be so bad at brushing

my teeth as a kid that they made me sit in the dentist chair and watch a video of a monkey brushing his teeth and the messaging was sort of if a monkey can do it you surely could also do it and i just had it was like it was one of the most embarrassing moments of my life shame can be important it was sitting there for like 20 minutes while they were just kind of like see how he does it and it was just like a primate being like they can do a lot of shit they shouldn't be doing sometimes they speak and it's really uncomfortable yeah i don't like when they do some of the advanced stuff i want to hug a mom i just want like a monkey to sit like i just want that so bad i'd love to meet a little monkey in an intimate fashion so cute i would love that for you i actually would love that too i would love that for me i had a friend in high school whose dad owned like seven monkeys and um

he should i think it might have been illegal he was into weird shit that guy probably and um yeah he owned a lot of monkeys and we would go over there and play with the monkeys they wore diapers sometimes they would throw things at you we would touch them um you know it was what it was oh sure it smelled bad yeah it smelled horrible and they all just lived in the house they lived yeah in the basement they had their own little part of the basement that was like they had a big cage built that was like floor to ceiling um and it was like a thing you'd be like oh what are we doing tonight oh there's nothing to really do do you guys want to go play with you know this girl's monkeys and then we would go do that was it fun like did you know it was special when you were doing it

i did i because i anybody i ever told that didn't go to my school like if i told like a cousin or someone went to another school they'd be like what the fuck and i'd be like yeah it's pretty cool and then they would be like we're gonna come visit sometime and i'd be like well i don't know if she'll be free that night but i'll try and i would try to get people over to the monkeys that is better than a pool that is it is better than a pool that's big time better than a pool there's public pools there's not public monkeys no not that you can interact with don't don't if anybody listening is thinking about saying zoo to me don't say zoo to me because they keep them locked up no do you wait you are i mean your svu video is like the best with the lawyers but do you watch did you watch the episode with the

monkey with kimba popping out of the basketball what episode we must have we've seen every i mean we've seen every episode but i can't remember that it was wildlife it was also like a stabler goes undercover and it's like um animal trafficking and craig sounds familiar finds this basketball at the airport and opens it and kimba the monkey like comes out and hugs him and we interviewed captain craigan and i asked we were like we got to talk about the monkey and i he goes i loved kimba i would feed it gummy bears we became friends he goes i didn't know it would hug me. And I couldn't believe it. And he was very happy to be hugged by the monkey too.

I love that. You interviewed, don't tell me his name, Dan Florek? Yeah. Nice. Hell yeah. Yeah. It's really thrilling. COVID really helped us because people were bored.

People were bored and they were watching us for you. We got celebs. I mean, Wyclef Jean came on our podcast and we're like, what? But no one was working. People were like, anything. Anything to be seen and heard and understood. No, they should want to go on now. Oh, yeah.

Go ahead, Shelby. I'll move on. What is next on your record? Which is fun. I'm an SVU alum. But number three, Ludacris, What's Your Fantasy? Give it to me, please. The best song ever. Now tell us what you love about this song.

So two years ago, I think, three years ago, time is weird. I had a great apartment in New York. I ended up having carbon monoxide poisoning. There were problems. But when I first moved in, giant, huge backyard. I go, I'm throwing a party. I spent $3,000 on this party. I got heat lamps, tables, chairs. I got Molly booze.

I had little bags of chips, 12 pounds of candy. How are you setting out the Molly for people? Like what was the delivery service? My friend who was dressed as like Mr. Freeze looked crazy and he was handing the pills to people. I was just curious because if you're buying it for everyone, there's got to be some way that they're set out, you know? And I was going to charge people for the Molly because I'm like,

I've paid for everything. But then he had the dose was too big and he had to break them. I'm like, you can't make people pay for broken, broken pills. So I just had to. You had to eat that cost. Yeah. But all the sound equipment, I got a great DJ.

He killed it. Everyone was dancing. I had like spooky light bulbs with like shapes. I had blood prints everywhere. It was like a real thing. And when what's your fantasy came on, such a feeling people the ground shook oh my god the ground shook everyone was dancing and then when that rap was like the whole apartment shook everyone rapped every word i felt so united with everyone there and i

was like this is the song of culture like this brings everyone wants to fuck and he and no if you don't want to get fucked on the 40 yard line maybe in the dirt you know like there's something for everyone and then I saw a funny joke someone said I wish I remembered who it was but they were like it's funny that in seventh grade we were like I like to yeah like make it hurt, that's so fucked up as children. But I think that's why we all like to get choked a little nowadays. And I just think it's like vulgar, sexy, but not over the top. And I think it's just such a perfect dance song.

And the aliens can learn about how we like to fuck if they don't have fucking on their planet. Oh, my God. I've never considered that they don't have fucking and they know about kinks yeah so it's like the in the car in the library on top of books but you can't be too loud you know it's like everything we're giving them the the guide it's instructional it's the it's the pamphlet in the in the airplane it's definitive guide to sex human human sexuality and i to say, I saw Ludacris live however many years ago, and he hit

after hit after hit. Like, he is so cool. And he's, what, 5'2"? That never stopped him. It never stopped him from also being fucking hot. He's hot. Which I wouldn't, you know, I don't like to say things like that on the pod, because I like to keep it pretty chaste on here, but Ludacris is fucking hot. Shelby's making pretty chaste on here. Sorry, I have to decline.

Ludacris is fucking hot. Shelby's making the most disgusted face. Shelby, why? I don't think Luda's hot, almost at all. You don't think Luda's hot. Did you agree with me, Lisa? No, he is hot and his wife's hot and he posted a video of her straddling him, shaking her butt.

And he's a great father and actor. I'm Googling him right now and here's the thing i would say 50 of the time he's hot and 50 of the time he's so actively unhot to me that it's hard for me to know where i land but that's like an america's next top model thing you want someone with a little twist you don't want just textbook pretty you want someone to look weird sometimes yeah and you know what in that case it is luda but he sometimes really hot yeah other times really uh just like couldn't even get it from me well you know when i decided that he's hot because i have i guess i do know what you mean i guess i have gone back and forth now that i'm seeing some of these pictures it's bringing up some memories when i really decided and i'm not making this up just because lisa's here was when he did his his his turn on

svu those couple of episodes when he was wearing his little suit and being mean to people in the courtroom i was like god damn ludicrous is sexy and i like when the sexy pushes through that he was one of the worst villains of svu yeah stabbed a pregnant woman's belly you know it's like that's bad yeah well he had his reasons yeah now hold on now no i mean yeah okay i'm against that no one should do that but same with pablo schreiber like his character is just like the worst terrorized benson serial killer burnt off his fingertips but you're like damn pablo you are hot you know he is fine delaney williams who plays one of the lawyers uh he's one of the worst characters on SVU and he is so delightful as a person is it Buchanan yes yes well because

it's funny because his twitter bio is like loves to play the guy you love to hate yeah loves the guy who loves to play the guy you love to hate on the show you hate to love or whatever the fuck it's like something he's like a real sweetie do you want to fuck him oh no do you no no um his real social media yeah it's just like him posting pictures of sunsets and stuff and then on here like respond i like posted one something about like i'm i'm almost too old to die young or something and he was like better than like he like had a really sincere response to it. And it may, I, it made me like almost cry for some reason.

I'm responding earnestly was like touching to me. You were crying out of anger. You hate when people are sincere. You were mad. No, I love sincerity. Unfortunately, I have too much of it.

Well, here's some sincerity for you, Lisa. We should talk about what's next on your records. So number four even i didn't want to just like do uh did you just compliment yourself i like that big time i did baby um i was like i don't want to just do a show but i had to a bojack horseman i love i know it's in like newer but it's so smart and good and so many depths of layers and jokes and analysis of the world

but so funny and it's my bedtime show yeah so i've now watched it dozens of times it's just always in the background and i love that you can cry you can laugh that the aliens will learn about hollywood they'll learn about animation they'll learn about mental illness uh they will learn about Hollywood. They'll learn about animation. They'll learn about mental illness. They'll learn about depression, alcoholism. They'll learn about friendship, relationships, love, like fear, everything. And then, you know, Hollywood, which I like. Are you at all worried about what they will learn that is not true to the real world, which is like dogs and horses and cats.

All being. Does that scare you? Talking. That's so funny. And running Hollywood. Because I just got defensive. I was like what's not real? Like in my head I was like what the fuck does she think? But you are right.

I didn't think a lot that well. You don't have to have concerns about it. I'm just wondering if that is a fear. Because it is such a real. No but why do we have to teach them everything? Oh we don't. You don't. Why can't we trick them a little too okay hey we're on this podcast we are on record for saying we'd love to trick the aliens also i'm sorry i keep interrupting i just uh so passionate but i've noticed it oh this is your record you can interrupt us however much you also who said hollywood's not really run by dogs caleb i'm gonna leave the call the way the way and yeah i

knew it would upset everybody but the way it upset everybody man that was tough that was tough mike mike left the call yeah mike quit mike just messaged us he quits that's kind of insane michael i didn't think about that i think it would be fun because the animal characteristics are still real even though they're not chatting and there are still humans and who knows if in 50 years maybe that will be our life that's fair I my concern isn't even that they're seeing the animals talk it's that it is such a real depiction of like a lot of humanity but it is depicted by like a fish wearing pants do you know what I mean but I'm all for the aliens thinking that dogs are are our like lead actors are our main celebrities mr peanut butter yeah just like different personality types like

in that they would learn that people aren't perfect because britney is perfect miley is perfect all these things are perfect and then you have like the, you know, where we really lack goodness. Yeah. Do you guys watch the show? Yes. Yeah. Okay. I've seen, I've seen some of it here and there.

I just think like a chicken, like I like when a chicken scared and an egg fell out. Like that's so funny. But then also. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Um, Lisa Kudrow as the owl is like my favorite Wanda. Like that. She, she has the famous quote where she goes, you know, it's funny. When you look at someone through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags. When she said that line, it truly like gave me chills in a way. Yeah, because I'm someone that projects too much on romantic partners. And that was really like, oh, yeah, you can't do that because then you just make excuses for like compulsive liars. You know what I mean? BoJack Horseman.

Great show. It's a really smart show. The black sheep. Oh, yeah. Like the black sheep of the family is a black sheep. You know, it's like so layered in punchlines and visual jokes. And it's about stand up comedy so they can learn about stand up a little bit. Lisa, what else would you put on your records so my final thing this is a newer thing that's

entered my life but i think she lives how we all live a lot and i think it's emma chamberlain i know she's only 20 but i love her and she teaches me a lot and i'm grateful for all her youtube channels what does she do on YouTube? Nothing, baby. Nothing. She does nothing. I'm making a matcha right now because my coffee machine broke. I ordered a new one, but apparently-

She makes coffee. She changes the kitty litter. She works out- She does make coffee. Now she has a coffee business. Yeah. And she never wants to get out of bed and she'll do two tasks

and then she'll be like, okay, I bought groceries. I gotta get into bed. And she'll do two tasks. And then she'll be like, okay, I bought groceries. I got to get into bed. And then she just sits on her phone watching YouTube or TikTok for hours. And then she'll be like, I started reading. Okay, I'm going to read. And then that's it. It's like a day in the life of an actual how we live as millennials or whatever.

Like, obviously, people that have really hard jobs, it's different. She's a multimillionaire teen. But I feel like especially pandemic, like she just encapsulated our lives. She is a really likable, like, I mean, now she's 20, but when she was a teenager, all these teen TikTokers and whatever, I'm like, she's really likable. Well, she's the OG and she was herself. And now she's created the archetype of a YouTuber. And now people act like her. But she was the first girl to be like, I have acne. I don't like my skin.

Yeah, I'm burping on camera. I'm depressed. I feel sad. I don't know what to do. And I'm going to be real with you. And then Caleb, she'll also like, she'll go and just get all the coffees in town and rate them. And I like that. Or she'll be like, I'm going to go to all the fast foods,

get the vegetarian option, and I'll tell you which one's best. And she loves Trader Joe's. And I'm not really good at stuff. So even though she's only 20, I'm like, oh, parchment paper on a cooking sheet. Good one, Emma. You know, like I learned. You're like, yes, I do like that you did that. Yeah.

And I bought her planner. This is the best. I don't know why this wasn't an invention before so it's like it has fun activities and games in it but the planner also like there's no dates or months written anywhere so you can start when you want give up you know usually it's like great i this doesn't apply to me anymore and i couldn't be organized for seven months and now this is in the garbage you have to buy another one this one it's just all blank you can add the month you can add a week you can do whatever you want and that's very helpful

yeah I love that because I've thrown away a lot of planners because I skipped two months and then was like well I guess you know yeah but this it's like wherever you want but she's like positive but then also I love Louis Vuitton and she's the Louis Vuitton girl right now so she has all the Louis bags she goes to fashion week you know she's a levi's girl she's doing ads she's making money um but also just doing nothing yeah i mean even her tiktok is like she's i think friends are at least like in the same tier of like the demelios the addison rays but they all like kill themselves making the perfect tiktok and emma chamberlain like sits in her room records herself starting to dance and giving up and it's like cool i guess i'll boast that

she also does things for jokes and now they're my reality like she'll be like vibe check and now i do like i am constantly vibe checking and peace signing to people i'm like you cannot just do everything this child's doing um she's also very into like i eat healthy to feel good like she's just real and honest and open and lazy and wants to just lay around all day and i'll be on her phone and i really and she doesn't have that many friends and yeah she's kind of alone a lot and she's not she is young so she'll be like plums are delicious. I can't get enough plums. And I bet she's teaching people about plums. You know, I mean, even I guess this is like also in L.A.

There's a farmer's market truly every day. But one of her videos that I watched today just to like get into her vids was. Oh, I thought you were a fan because you seem like I am. Oh, I am. I Grace Kuhlenschmidt and I spent like a day talking about how we were both kind of like. I'm glad to know how to say her last name. Thank you for saying that out loud. Finally, someone says it.

We once just talked for like a full day about how we were kind of embarrassed to admit that we really liked Emma Chamberlain. We were like, we really like her. Is that okay? No, people come out of the woodwork. Like I'll post something and then I'll get a message being like, oh god I like her too everyone's embarrassed that's old no I am a fan I just haven't watched a lot of her YouTube regularly so I re-watched a little bit today but there was one where she was like she said something that was like farmers markets are only on Sundays

and that's just so untrue here and it was so funny to me that she was just like, things that I like about Sundays is that it is the farmer's markets day. It's the day that the farmer's markets happen. And I was like, it's the day that one of them happens for sure, babe. But there's so many others. She was like, I never plan enough to do it. I love going to the farmer's market, but I don't like wasting food. And I like always forget at the grocery store.

And then I was kind of like, well, you can go on a Tuesday. You can go on a Wednesday. You can go whenever you want. I wanted to like wasting food and I like always forget at the grocery store. And then I was kind of like, well, you can go on a Tuesday. You can go on a Wednesday. You can go whenever you want. I wanted to like reach out. No comment. Comment.

Please comment. We need to help her. I do wish she was a little more gay. She's very, she could be queer and she chooses not to be. She's very heteronormative. She's very much like, I can't wait to find a cute boy and be a mom like she yeah yeah yeah she could and i feel like she

does serve a little bit of bi energy and she's she's pushing it away and i and i want her to lean in a little harder yeah i agree i love to tell a 20 year old how to be sexually but um emma it's just annoying that there's even a two lane highway. You know, it's just like, it would just life would just be so much easier and more fun if there was never like this guideline that then you you could like I wish there was just it was easier to be like oh I do like that person and I will fuck them but then maybe I'll go back to this gender or whatever you know yeah wait also did you watch Emma Chamberlain at all when she was in like what did they call the sisters when she was one of the sisters with James Charles and the Dolan twins I watched some Dolans they don't I don't really like them and then I watched like the friends she goes to Coachella with Olivia and all these girls.

Like I don't like anyone but Emma. Really? I literally, that's how I feel. I'm like everyone she hangs out with is annoying. That's why she doesn't hang out with them. She's like always alone because she has bad friends. I'm like,

girly, come out with us. We will introduce you to some cool people. I love that. You said girly, like Meg Stalter on hacks. Girly. Girly.

I don't know. Yeah. It was so good. Wait wait lisa we have one more question for you yes if you could delete anything from the record of humanity and it doesn't have to be the big stuff it doesn't have to be war and famine yeah um poverty uh what would you delete this might be in line with too big so i can change it if you don't love it but i would say the coke brothers is that fucked no because you're not serious no because you're not deleting the things that they've done which i love as a choice you're deleting them i love you like them their energy the fact that they exist. I support that. Yeah, they're just like everything terrible is because of them. It is crazy. Like they are in charge of everything.

Anytime you're like, this is fucked. You're like, oh, the Koch brothers decided that they funded this. They're involved with this. I'm actually really mad that I don't have a better answer for what to delete from the culture. Who do I? Oh, Olivia Munn. No. It devolves into bullying.

Mike is taken aback by that. It devolves straight into bullying. Mike just went, like, got fully, like, physically reactive to that one. Oh, do you think, does Mike love Olivia? It seems it. What did she do to you, Lisa? You know, there's just celebs.

You're just like, I don't like you. And I just, it's been that since the moment I saw her. And I know she's a real human with, you know, feelings and great qualities, I'm sure. But even her like Vogue 73 questions bore. It's like, it's like a hot girl that likes nerdy shit. And it's like, here, have the world. And I don't love that.

You know, like it just bothers me. What's something you can't be subjected to for too long? Someone belittling someone else. See, I think Olivia Munn is so hot. It's so hard. It's so hard to be Olivia Munn listening to this podcast, but she does. And find out that when you didn't feel comfortable

deleting the Koch brothers, you went to her. That was the, that was how close she was to being safe oh god lisa thank you so much for doing this this has been an incredible episode where can people find you at glitter cheese on the internet or uh that's messed up um is a podcast wherever you pod and you should listen to it after this episode we're at the end of this episode that means you get to sort of leave a comment ludicrous personally let him know we'd like to get him yeah we'd love to have him

on that pod luda listens to the pod so luda let's just go straight to the source i'm sorry i said you weren't hot sometimes i do think that you are you should uh go on that's messed up the podcast you know what this was a good episode i have to say yes that was a hit gum original