Kermode & Mayo’s Take - Daveed Diggs, Pearl, Rye Lane, Shazam! Fury of the Gods, 80 for Brady & Extrapolations
Episode Date: March 17, 2023The Multifaceted Daveed Diggs tells Simon how his role as Marshall Zucker in the start studded ‘Extrapolations’ was deeply personal. Mark reviews South London rom- com ‘Rye Lane’ - starring D...avid Jonsson and Vivian Oparah, ‘Pearl’ Ti West’s prequal to horror film ‘X’ which sees Mia Goth reprise her role as the title character, ‘80 for Brady’- which is a comedy starring Jane Fonda, Lily Tomlin, Sally Field, and Rita Moreno and is inspired by the true story of four best friends who travel to the Superbowl to see their hero Tom Brady, ‘Extrapolations’ Apple +’s new anthology drama, set in the near future where the effects of climate change have become embedded in everyday life, and last but not least ‘Shazam! Fury of the Gods’ - which once again follows teen Billy Batson as he transforms into his adult superhero alter ego. Time Codes (relevant only when you are part of the Vanguard): 08:25 - 80 For Brady Review 15:42 - Shazam Review 21:08 Box Office Top 10 38:52 Daveed Diggs Interview 51:27 Extrapolations Review 55:47 Laughter Lift 01:00:51 Pearl Review 01:09:08 What’s On 01:09:56 Rye Lane Review EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ➼ https://nordvpn.com/take Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! You can contact the show by emailing correspondence@kermodeandmayo.com or you can find us on social media, @KermodeandMayo A Somethin’ Else & Sony Music Entertainment production. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts and follow us @sonypodcasts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Now I know you would have set your alarm so that you were up in the early hours of the weekend. Yes.
Not able to choose between the Oscars live or the final episode, Oh yes, or as deep three options. Staying asleep, watching the Oscars
all the last episode of the last of us. So which option did you go, did you go sleep Oscars last of us?
I went sleep last of us. And then I caught up with the Oscars. What did you make of it in general?
Well, we're going to what the Oscars all last of us. Well, last of us, we're going to have a lot's
of e-mails. A lot's emails. Lots of emails about that coming up.
It will be a small, attastic conversation.
Not in this take.
Yes.
We're not giving you that.
No.
That's coming up.
Although that's also dropped at the same time.
It has.
So you can listen, if you can, listen to take two.
You could stop this now.
You could go straight.
If you immediately want Last of Us, you can go straight there now.
Because we're going to do a whole bunch of stuff about last of us.
Yeah, we are, which is great. As far as the Oscar's Oscar stuff is concerned, I didn't watch this.
I mean, I just, I'm sorry, but I can't be bothered anymore.
But generally, I'm very glad that the, I'm very glad that the adaptive screenplay went to Sarah Polly.
That means Sarah Polly has an Oscar, which is fantastic.
What was that for? Women talking, thank Polly has an Oscar, which is fantastic. I was at four.
Women talking, thank you.
Which I loved, as you know.
All quiet in the Western Front did well,
one best foreign language from which everybody thought it would,
but I was very glad that Volker Bertam
and one for best score because of the nominated scores.
That was the most adventurous score.
Although, you know, I mean, I asked about to me,
but there we go, that was never gonna happen. Very good that in supporting actress Jamie Lee Curtis thanked her genre fans,
thank the Halloween crowd who've been there with all the way through. Great speech by Michelle
Yo, although Michelle Yo did that say that thing about, you know, you know, anyone who looks
like me, you can do this. And I know what she meant, but you also thought,
Michelle, you know, looks so fantastic.
Nobody in the world looks like Michelle, you own.
And you, you, you were directly,
what, you were awake and texting an Oscar winner as they won.
No, I didn't do that when they won.
When I woke up and found that they won, I texted them and said,
and said, well done, because I had their,
because I had their phone.
Who was it? I'll tell you later.
Okay. And by that point, of course, they were probably rolling in alcohol at the Elton
John party. No, because he doesn't drink, which he might have gone to the Elton John party.
He would have just had a volivon. Yes, volivon and his sparkling water or a diet coke.
Tom Bates in Bristol, just about Oscars, a film conspicuously absent from any of the lists says Tom.
I happen to rewatch 13 Lives at the weekend, Ron Howard's film about the incredible
Tai Cave Rescue, which we interviewed Ron Howard.
Ron Howard was on the show.
Yes, now I'm no movie critic says Tom, but it seems to me that 13 lives had all the elements
of an awards-worthy film, compelling story, stunning visuals, fantastic performances
from the cast including Colin Farrell and Vigo Monson. In fact, it's a useful companion piece
for Colin Farrell, who was Oscar-tipped, but not for this part. Just playing really ordinary.
Banshees did walk away empty handed, which is a shame. So why did it get snubbed by the academy
this year? This is Tom talking about 13 lives, I suppose, to Banshee's.
Yeah. Is it simply that it was released too early for Academy voters to remember it? Or perhaps
the voters were all rooting for different films and just didn't want to cave in pun intended
to hear pressure? Whatever the reason, I just thought it was a shame. Well, Tom, I mean, I think,
I mean, I enjoyed it. It's a remarkable story. See Ron Howard's interview here in previous episodes
for more on that.
But did he get overlooked or was it never really?
It was never in the running.
I'm just looking at what the original release date of it was
because Ron Howard came on.
I think it was one of our first shows for take.
Am I right in thinking that?
I think so.
So it was originally released. We did some listless questions as well, so we likened very much. It just says Lithuania
20 July 29th in the United States 2022. Yeah, I mean, it was never on any awards radar as far
as I was aware. Correspondence at CoVinamere.com. By the way, don't forget we have a fantastic live show
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to be the first to get your tickets, although actually a lot of people have beaten you if you haven't
got them already because they already are the first to get their tickets. London's Union Chapel
23rd of May, it's a Tuesday, it'll be lovely to see you there. We'll probably mention that a few
hundred times during the show. Can I just ask you, am I looking particularly fabulous?
Not as bad as you are.
There's a reason I mean you always look fabulous, but you know, not as bad as you are.
My hair, I have my hair looking.
I don't know, it's the same.
Not the same though, is it?
Yes, it's the same.
No, it's not.
I went to a during lockdown, I stopped going to buy, I started cutting my own hair, you
know, just number one and a point five on the side and, anyway, finally, I thought I need to get this sorted out, now lockdown's finished
by, you know, a long time. And I went to this barber that used to be opposite, um, Mr.
Young's and I went in and I said, this is what I want you to just straighten it out and,
you know, make it, you know, make, put it back to where it was. And he said, I'll do the
best with what we've got. That's always good to hear from your barber.
So I've now entered that point in my life.
Okay.
The best with what we've got.
You've got a full head of hair.
Yes.
He'll do the best with what we've got.
Okay.
Well, he's done, you know, it looks the same as last week, I'm sorry, but you know,
but you say you were fine.
What I'm doing is complimenting your work.
I think you're suggesting that you don't really notice my hair.
No, I don't, really.
But I know that you do, so well done. It looks lovely. I wasn't sure whether you were after a
compliment for your t-shirt or your... I'll take anything. Okay, great. Anything at all. It looks
fine. And other things. I'm nice to have around. Always. What we do on the show.
We're going to be reviewing some films at Rylane, Pearl,
Shazam Fury of the Gods, 80 for Brady,
and not a film with a TV series, Extrapolations.
Yes, well, starring like everyone in Hollywood.
Everyone in Hollywood.
It has various episodes, it's all about climate change.
Anyway, one of the episodes, in fact, two of the episodes
feature the great Davy Diggs.
He's gonna be on talking about extrapolations,
which I have to say is not a good name for a TV show
because it kind of doesn't tell you anything.
Also, it's quite hard to remember.
It is.
Extraction, what's that show?
Extraction, explicit.
One of those.
Excal patients.
Davy Diggs will be on a little bit later.
Davy Diggs and his radio perfect voice.
Oh, I love his voice.
As you'll hear me say to him, much to his permutement, because he doesn't write his
voice.
Anyway, in the super serving stakes with our extra takes, at least an extra hour and a
half of this call.
An hour and a half.
I mean, I don't know.
No one's actually going to time anything.
Man, more reviews,
pretentious, more currently the people 11,
mark nine and a half,
although there's some dispute about that correspondence later.
Take it all in.
You decide our word of mouth on a podcast
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When I did the lottery for a few years, I always had to explain how it worked. And then there were
other spin-off things from the lottery. And I never understood how any of it worked. I just read
the words that were put in front of me. The same is true for this. I'm explaining it and I'm
assuming that you're brighter than I am. Now you can support us via Apple Podcast. You can
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If you're already a van goddaster, as always.
We salute you.
We do indeed.
Tell us about...
Oh no, I'm...
What do you do with Thing First?
Shall I do a thing?
Well, you do thing.
I can do a film and then...
I'm looking forward to a film review.
I would like to hear something about a film.
Mother's Day is coming up, as you know.
Yes. I'm sure we will remember it. 80 for Brady is being released for Mother's Day. Does it sound
like a Mother's Day film? 80, 80 because 80 years old. So I think they're saying it, release for
Mother's Day, I think it may be take your mother to the, doesn't work.
No, the smother. No, no, no.
That doesn't work. Yeah. If anybody can finish that pun, go ahead. Anyway, the film is produced
by former NFL quarterback Tom Brady. You know him? Yes, not to be confused with Tom Bradby,
who reads the news at ITN. Sorry, do you know former NFL quarterback?
Yes.
He's one of the few American sportsmen who I do know of.
Okay, well, never heard of him.
Recently retired.
Wow, okay, so your, so that whole section of my notes
will now go out the window.
He also appears as himself.
The film is inspired by a real life group
of Patriots fans as the team,
known as the over 84 Brady club, apparently
the grandson of one member pitched the idea. So this is written by Sarah Haskins, Emily
Halpin, directed by Karl Marvin Starring, Jane Fonda, Sally Field, Rita Moreno and Lily
Tomlin. Okay, decent, quite the cast. There are a group of octogenarians, although Sally
Field keeps saying, actually, I'm 75, who get together to watch the New England Patriots play and they idolized Tom Brady.
This all began some years ago in the wake of Lily Tomlin's Lou having chemotherapy, and it kind of saw her through that.
Now it's a ritual-filled part of their life. They'd love to go to the Super Bowl. They can't afford it.
And then a radio station has a competition for tickets and they enter and guess what? Here's a clip. I'm in center Frank loved it very much Okay, look
Oh my gosh, what is this I wanted to be a surprise
But all they had were gender reveal boxes was having a baby no one
It's not a gender reveal. It's just a reveal of what
We won that ticket to a joint with the first thought as I suspect it might be the first one, what's wrong with her bathroom? You know, what is, anyway, but she plays a character called Lou.
Yes.
Who is there exposing a bag with pink balloons which pop out and it doesn't, it's not a gender
reveal.
No, it's that they've got the tickets.
So they're on the way to, to the NFL.
And you know, this is how they possibly going to do it.
One of them has to be sort of, anyway, they've all got their challenges.
Regent Renault's character, she missed it.
She said, there's a very funny joke when somebody says divorce.
She said, whenever I hear that word, I think about my husband.
Your husband didn't divorce you, he died.
And she says it's the same thing.
Okay.
Sally feels character.
Her husband is completely dependent on her,
and it's constantly ringing her, asking her to read through his academic papers,
no matter what she's doing.
Jane Fonda's character is always falling in and out of love with inappropriate men.
Lily Tomlin's character has a letter from the doctor that she won't open because she's worried
about what might be in it. They get into loads of scrapes, they get into loads of parties,
they get into loads of trouble, they get into gambling games, they get into a hot chilly eating
contest, they have the tickets, they don't have the tickets, they've got the tickets, they lose the
tickets, they get through it. There is a lot of whooping and hollering going on to tell
you what a good time it was. I really wanted to like this because I liked the cast,
knew nothing about Tom Brady, although you did. I was going to say he's been interesting
because none of us know who he is, but apparently everybody does, so it's just me.
I'd love to be able to tell you that it's an uplifting, terrific, party time film in which
that it's an uplifting, terrific, you know, party time film in which these actors that we love play characters that we love and do. But it's just, it's super creaky. I mean, American football means
nothing to me. The whole thing felt incredibly corporate. The gags are very, very contrived.
It does feel particularly American. Well, I mean, is if you're an American mom,
mom, and that is with an O as opposed to a U.
Maybe that works, but there was an awful lot of stuff in there.
I was just thinking, I don't think my mother would like it very much.
And also, it's just not very funny.
I mean, it feels very, it does that thing that a movie does, which is that they'll be a joke
and then there'll be a pause for the laughter, which I suspect.
I mean, look, I'm not, hey, it is what it is.
And also, there aren't many movies that market themselves on,
hey, it's Mother's Day, take your mum to the cinema.
Maybe there's an audience there.
Yeah, I can't recommend it, but there we are.
Hey, mom, we're going to go to the cinema,
not that impressed, but hey.
Yeah, and this is a matter.
If anybody does go see it and they have a great time,
please let us know because I don't want,
it'd be lovely to hear, oh, I took mom to see it
and she loved it.
Exactly.
Correspondence at codermain.com,
which is where huge trimbals sent this,
Marketson, your culinary correspondent is right
that an entree traditionally came between the aperitif
and the plat principale, which comes from a time when a meal had great
many courses, especially in France. I don't think the American usage, meaning main course,
is down to mis-translation though. There is a long tradition of having very long menus
in America, which still exists in many places. Think of giant, dynamanus, where the appeal
is that you can't have, where you can have basically anything you want, such as the classic two eggs, any style, the side of your choice of meat, and so on.
The tradition of enormous American menus helps explain, now I didn't know this.
Why the typical British way of asking for food in restaurants, can I have, or may I have,
is sometimes thought of a slightly rude in those American establishments with everything on the menu.
This is because, of course, you can have it if you want it.
And by asking if you can, sometimes is thought that you're suggesting that the chef might
not be able to manage it, to which I think most people say, for heaven's sake, I'm just
being polite.
Yeah.
Anyway.
Wow.
Historical culinary franco.
So can I just say the idea of Americans thinking of us as rude?
Yes.
I don't think so. Historical culinary franco filier also apparently idea of Americans thinking of us as rude? Yes, I don't think so.
Historical culinary francophilia also apparently explains many Americans way of switching
their forks between hands while they eat.
Apparently this was the fashion in 18th century France where holding a sharp knife for any
longer than strictly necessary to cut your meat was considered uncouth and threatening.
Like a lot of ideas imported from 18th century France,
the Americans are still quite keen,
and the British tend to find it all a bit suspect.
Why would you?
I didn't even know that they did that.
I didn't, therefore.
Anyway, well, they do do the thing about they cut the food up,
and then I do the same thing.
You cut the food up, you fork and you left hand, you thing,
and then when you cut it up, you hold the fork
and you're right hand, and you eat with your right hand,
and that relates to the story about the birth of faulty towers
that the Monty Python team was staying in a hotel
and Terry Gillian being American did exactly that.
Took his fork from his left hand to his right hand.
Well, that's some of the people they're talking about.
Yes, was eating the food and-
That comes from 18th century France.
So what you're doing there, you can-
And then the guy came over and told him off.
Yeah.
The guy came over and said, you're not in America now, sir.
There you go.
Well, it's a revolution.
Turns out he was real.
Turns out he was a revolutionary thing.
I corresponded to COVID-19.
At Com, what else have we got that's out in buzzing?
Shazam, fury of the gods.
Sequel to the likable superhero adventure, Shazam.
As I said this for now,
I'm so far out of my depth when it comes to this.
Shazam originally kept in Marvel in the DC comics,
Billy Batson played by Asha Angel as a kid,
and Zachary Levy in the Shazam incarnation.
Basically, misfit, orphan teen,
acquires adult superhero powers after visiting a wizard's
layer, this is in the original.
And then there's a lot of fun in which,
because suddenly he's a grown man,
and they're wondering what they're superpowers.
Can I fly?
Oh, I can fly.
I wonder if I can do that as well.
That all that was quite lucky.
So it was like a sort of comic riff on Chronicle
or Deadpool without any of the R-rated stuff.
So in the sequel, he's back with the fellow Philadelphia
foster kids to whom he gifted special powers before.
They sneak out together to fight crime together
because it's not about superpowers, it's about family. And of course there is...
Why do you say family, Lennon?
Well, because that's the, you know, Fast and the Furious, which that was where everything's about
family. And they do acknowledge that gag, not least in the fact that the film's got Helen Mirren,
who's in the Fast and the Furious franchise, and here plays one of the daughters of Atlas,
keep up returning to Earth to steal the staff
that will restore their powers.
Cast also includes Lucy Lou,
Rachel Zagreb is a new girl at school
who befriends best friend Freddie,
but isn't quite who she seems to be.
Here's the trailer.
And this kind of gives you a tone of,
sort of, sense of the tone of it.
All right.
I'm an idiot.
It's show time.
I don't deserve these powers to be honest.
Like, what am I even contributing?
Ow!
There's already a superhero with a red suit,
with a lightning bolt on it.
The Pac-Man is literally huge, he's so manly, and Batman, it's so cool, and I'm just me.
So, most of the appeal is, exactly doing exactly that, you know, that he's a kid in superhero form
and he makes mistakes and he bumbles around and he gets things wrong.
And they're all, but it's also that kind of nice thing, it's the Gune's thing that they're the misfits who rise up
and you know are actually altogether and they've all got each other's backs
and they've got rivalries and everything, but it is to do with family. There's an awful lot more CG, huge monsters, dragons, you know, stuff
than there needs to be in. There's a good, I'm going to go and see this again with
the enough on Sunday because I'm going to go and see it at the IMAX because there's
a student group that are going to the IMAX, so I'm going to go and see it again. And as
I was watching, I was thinking, well, they'll be interesting to see this 40 minutes on IMAX because there is 40 minutes
of just CG stuff. I mean, I don't think it's as much fun as the, as the first one, but
it's kind of more fun than, you know, some of the other superhero movies. It just completely
flimsy. It's, it's, it's, by the time I see it on Sunday, I will have forgotten all of
it already.
I mean, I need to look this up. Maybe I should have done that before we started
this, but Shazam was an animation. When I was growing up, Shazam was a cartoon, and there
were two halves of a ring, and one ring said, Sha, and the other one said, Sam. And then
when the two halves of the ring came together, this Shazam, Shazam, and the genie appeared
and did great things. So that's not the same thing. That isn't anything. It's not the same thing. But the idea of a shazam type of thing obviously has been around
for a long time. Yes. And again, I will defer to my great friend, Van Conner, who explained
this to me. So as we were going into the first shazam movie, he said, you do know the Captain
Marvel collection. I went, Van, that is a rhetorical question. You know that I don't know.
They explain it to me. He said, well, there was a rhetorical question. You know that I don't know. Explain
it to me. He said, well, there was this, then it was this character, and there's this
thing, and then there's, I mean, there's a lot of in jokes about it. There's a character,
there's a character of a pediatrician called Dario Barva, and I don't know whether that's
a sinny literate joke about Dario Argento or Mario Barva or whether Dario Barva is a
comic, because I'm not immersed in that world. But there's a lot of nodding and winking
to the other franchises and the other way,
which, you know, there'll be a similar point
in this particular take, or maybe in take two,
when you say to me, you know that Egyptian surrealist
director of photography from the 60s,
and I'll go, Mark, you know the answer.
You know the answer, that's the answer,
which is no anyway. But I love the idea of an Egyptian surrealist and a photographer. in the 60s and I'll go, Mark, you know the answer. You know the answer, I just know.
Anyway, I love the idea of an Egyptian surrealist
cinematographer.
If there was one, there was one correspondents at
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And we talked with Andy Sirkus about Luther, Fallen Sun.
Which I didn't like at all.
Luke in Gloucestershire.
You didn't like it at all either.
No.
Watch Luther Fallen Sun over the weekend.
After looking forward to it for some time, I've been a huge fan of the show since day
one.
And I've always anticipated each sporadic new batch of episodes in the many years since I had some
trepidation on account of the standard TV to movie curse, but Luther felt such a good fit. It seemed like a done deal. Having now seen it, I've come away entertained but disappointed.
For all the snazzy visuals and chasey crashy smashy bombacity. Is that a word? I'm sure Mark will tell us.
and chasey, crashy, smashy, bombacity. Is that a word, I'm sure Mark will tell it?
I'm sure, wasn't it a single, Mr. Bombastity?
Very fantastic.
That works for me.
It was completely lacking in any of the depth or nuance
that made the show itself work so well.
Yeah, no kidding.
Luther has always been pretty grim in its themes and content.
The prequel novel makes this movie
like a delightful teddy bears picnic by comparison,
but it's usually balanced out by subplots and side characters that showcase John Luther
as more than just a grunty cop who don't play by any rules type of fellow. The movie barely
gives Idris Elbe a single line of dialogue for the first hour, which is a poor choice,
given the tour de force performance he usually provides in this role. And everything in
the second hour is mostly just him chasing Andy Circus
and his insane hairstyles around London and then Europe.
In a lot of ways it reminded me of the girl in the spiders web from a few years ago,
which took the fascinating and complex character of Lisbeth Salander from the Millennium Trilogy
and turned her into a very cool-looking but otherwise completely shallow action star.
It was a movie that had style in spades but none of the intrigue of what came before it
from that series. The full and sun is very similar, and in that regard wasn't bad watch by any means.
I think it was. I had fun with it. I didn't for what it is, but knowing what it could have been left
be wanting a lot more, not me. And it certainly has me fearing for the future of Luther,
should its future be on Netflix
original films and not BBC television anyway we both disliked it a lot. Yes I mean I just thought
it was silly and very dated and but you know I'm glad that you you know I know I'm glad that you
enjoyed but disappointed. So he enjoyed it but disappointed. And I thought he was distasteful.
Well, enjoy the point. It's about disappointing.
You were born and I thought he was distasteful.
Yeah.
Anyway.
So box office top 10 at 36 Winnie the Pooh, Blood and Honey.
Pete in London.
OK, yes.
Dear Winnie and indeed Pooch.
Just say before we go any further, great sound design.
STL, although moving towards my MTL, entrance exam.
A note on the Winnie the Pooh, Blood and Honey, monstrosity. I have actually
been aware of this film's existence for months. I've been wondering if and when it would
appear on the show. The reason is that I have two kids aged 2 and 4, who a few months ago
got their first Winnie the Poob book out from our local library. They loved it, became
in trance with the characters, and as is the case these days I thought I might show them,
some of the classic cartoons on a fruit based device via a popular video streaming website.
Now I'm worldly wise enough to not allow my dear children unfettered access to YouTube,
but I didn't anticipate any reason to ensure their eyes were averted when searching for
Winnie the Pooh.
Alas, the first three videos were trailers for this garbage and while I didn't click on
any of them, both children got to see a still of a nightmare vision of their new favourite
character, looming ominously behind a scantily clad woman in a hot tub, which was upsetting
and surprising for them to say the least and trigger a series of difficult who is scary
when either poo and what's he doing type questions.
As a result, I've had a chip on my shoulder
about this film for months, especially as I watched the trailer after the kids were safely
tucked away in bed and thought it looked utterly gratuitous, sexualized in the worst possible way
and cheaply made brackets cracking signed design. Cracking standards, I'm notwithstanding.
Thuroughly depressed to hear that they're going to be doing the same to other loved children's
characters, I don't doubt that there are already children who have watched this trailer by accident and being deeply upset by it.
Could they perhaps think again, interesting people, but they won't?
Loving the show, keep up the good work.
Out with blue-ed feminists, down with the cheap, disturbing male gaze horror films of all varieties.
Yeah, I mean, that's one of the worst things about winning the Pooh Blood and Honey,
which is just rubbish with the exception of the opening
five minutes, which I thought were quite funny, is that it's just, you know, we
didn't die in the Slasher War so that people could make films again in which
somebody in a hot tub is terrorised by a bloke with a knife. It's like, yeah, no,
it's so last century and it's also so badly done. It's just, and it's so last century. And it's also so badly done.
It's just...
And it's... Yeah.
Weirdly enough, when there was the first thing
about people being annoyed that Winnie the Pooh
was being taken and turned into a horror character.
I mean, there's somebody who's very interested in fairy...
I mean, I do my PhD on horror fiction
and a lot of it was about fairy tales.
The kind of dark side of fairy tales has always appealed to me.
But the thing with Winnie the Pooh blood and honey is that that's an idea that they have for
precisely three and a half minutes at the beginning of the movie, and then it is just people in hot
tubs being chased by a bloke with Winnie the Pooh head on, which isn't even Winnie the Pooh head
obviously, and a knife, and it's... You can't really be chased in a hot tub, okay? You can
go round and round. Yes, exactly. Yeah, and the other way, otherwise you go dizzy. Yeah, it's
no, it's just shoddy, shoddy and poor and yeah, thank you. I had actually hadn't thought about that, but I mean,
I presume that the YouTube trailers may be age restricted, but you're right, that doesn't stop
you seeing the thumbnail. So yeah, Pete, thank you. Number 10 in the UK is epic tales.
Oh, we're not doing meet meet me in the bathroom, which is 16, just very briefly to say that's
the documentary about the New York punks scene 2001 onwards, which I thought was
niche. Number 10 is epic tales, which is on the way out, but it's done much better than I thought
it was going to. Number nine is it a two duty main macarons? Yeah, so I haven't seen this, this
wasn't press screened, this is a comedy romance. If anybody has seen it, please let us know. I'd like to hear about it.
Number eight in the UK, six in America champions.
So I enjoyed the thing about the Farley Brothers.
I mean, this is Bobby Farley, as opposed to the Farley Brothers,
Peter Farley directed the best picture,
we're in a weirdly green book.
That throughout their career,
they have always had this thing about diverse casting.
It is something that they take very, very seriously.
And the key thing in champions is that all the jokes are about the fact that Woody Harrelson's character is an idiot.
And that is a very farily way of doing it.
And I thought it was, I mean, I really enjoyed it.
And I came out of the screening and I spoke to a couple of other critics.
Did you know, did we have any right to expect that that was going to be as good as it was?
I mean, yes, it has flaws, but it's a good uplifting sports movie with proper, diverse
casting and some real rising stars in the cast.
And I liked it very much.
Darren Lietzley in Dublin.
I saw champions on Saturday night.
While the story beats selfish man learns the
era of his ways and improves thanks to interacting with a bunch of people with whom he'd never
ordinarily meet our well-worn, interesting punctuation in the centre.
They're still in the first centre. Yeah, they're the story beats, not as in beats, as in defeats,
but the story beats as in the poise. Yes. We're still on the like this. Sorry, yes.
So some calls. It's done in such an engaging way,
comma, without approaching mushy sentiment full stop.
There's plenty of cliches.
Each of the friends is of a character type
familiar to any movie gang.
There are critical speeches delivered
the progress of Marx's character stages
that can be ticked off.
Yet the characters are winningly played to enjoy the film.
In the canon of Woody Harrelson,
basketball films, white man can't jump, still holds the top spot, but Champions is a pleasant way to spend
a couple of hours.
I thought it was interesting that White Man can't jump was the thing that made Woody
Harrelson a movie star and that he was coming back to it with his. I still remember seeing
that because of course he was a TV star and then movie star. So anyway, I like this film.
Number seven is what's love got to do with it?
Not that one. Kind of sweet, you know, good-hearted, heart in the right place. If you're talking
about a mother's day movie, that might be a better call. Well, I think cocaine bear would be that.
Number six here. Number five in America. Hey, mum, we're going to go and see that film about it.
I've got a choice. Yeah.
80 for Brady.
What's I've got to do with it or cocaine bear?
Number five here, four in America, Ant Man and the Wasp, Quantumania.
Number four here, number nine in the States, pushing boots to the last wish.
Still in there.
Yeah.
Still doing well.
Number three here, number three in the States.
Not press screened.
65.
So this is 65.
65.
Now, always, when a film has not been
press screened it's either been because it's rubbish it's either because it's
rubbish or it's foreign language and sometimes yeah yeah and quite often
just to be clear about this body releases in you releases are quite often not
press screen because they don't get the prints like anything before 16 hours
before the film opens this but this is definitely in English.
And it's, therefore, I can imagine. Well, I haven't seen it, so I cannot possibly pass judgment.
What I can tell you is that the fact that it wasn't press-screen
and it was basically shoved out, I mean, you know,
is like suddenly it was there,
suggests that they didn't have a lot of faith in it.
Gone in at number three, any emails?
Yes.
Calvin Silvera, high sexy nuts and something else.
Genuinely surprised at some of the bad reviews of this film.
OK.
It's exactly the kind of movie that the poster sells it for
and it's the better for it.
Like Plain, it's a B movie about getting from A to B,
but this time, instead of rebels, we have to deal with dinosaurs.
It had the right amount of dinosaurs, maybe jumping places,
and there wasn't a moment in the film that didn't feel genuine.
Well, there we go.
Adam Driver and Ariana Green, Black were great.
They had that perfect mix of being engaging, funny, and charming.
Most importantly, I believed in their characters
and the genuine emotional moments work for me.
Yes, it's ridiculous in parts, but it's a movie.
Hasjora won at that.
It's no more ridiculous than Sandra Bullock bouncing off satellites in space.
Especially when you put this up against
the terrible Jurassic World film from last year,
this satisfied my craving for dinosaurs on screen perfectly.
Says Calvin.
So my question would be, you know,
why withhold it from the press?
And of course, from the studio's point of view,
their answer might have been,
well look, the press wouldn't have increased the box office
and they might have put people off.
But it's like it was not press-creened.
Number two here. Number two in the States is Creed III.
Email here from Matt in South Wales.
Embarrassingly, I am about three weeks behind on the pod. So at the point at writing, I don't know what Mark thinks of Creed III.
But I thought I would throw my gloves into the ring.
Yes, please. thinks of Creed 3. But I thought I would throw my gloves into the ring. On Sunday the boy child,
George, aged 13, and I eventually went to see Creed 3. I bet George is thrilled with that.
We have semi-binged on, bonded over, and had a mutual love in with all eight previous Rocky franchise
films over the past six months to get us to the point where we timed it perfectly for the release
of the latest chapter. We both thought it was fantastic. We were nervous at the news that Rocky wouldn't appear
in this installment as both of us simply loved that guy and felt that he was the emotional
heart of the movie, but not only was he not missed, actually his absence freed up the film
to be a bit different. Michael B. Jordan is a brilliant screen fighter, as much as I genuinely
love Rocky's style of walking head down into endless punches,
shaking his head slightly after each blow then stumbling forward again and ultimately winning
because he has a bigger heart. And the Michael B. Jordan's direction we saw Cretus
a genuinely talented, such a great description of, of the Vestas to Lone Boxing style.
Yes, Michael B. Jordan's direction we saw we saw creators of genuinely talented sports when fighting
with accuracy, accuracy, precision, science, and incredible speed.
Me and George decided that the best way to make peace with the idea that Rocky is absent
is to look at the character growth a donus has gone undergone since Creed II.
He just doesn't need Rocky anymore, meaning that Rocky is most likely spending his do-tage building bridges with his son and grandson and that makes us even happier.
Which is what happened at the end of two,
was an exeggion when not everyone
out with family bonding cinema sessions
Matt and South Wales.
Yeah, I mean, I think that we're all pretty much
on the same page.
It's a solid instalment.
I didn't miss Rocky, Sylvester Salona.
I know there's been a lot of stuff in the press
about the loan being unhappy that he's not in it.
And that's, you know, that's fine. Sometimes you have to take away the behind the scene stuff.
But I thought it was a pretty solid. And certainly when it comes to the fight sequences,
they are well directed. And I'll say this again, I think that that decision in the middle of the
title fight to take the audience away and to just give you this kind of almost, you know,
apocalyptic vision of it, there's nothing except for the boxing ring. I think that works really well.
And number one here, number one in America is Screams.
Kevin Helper. Greg, so bad. Long time list, that uncertain time emergency
mailer. I'd say Mark got Screams six wrong. Okay. Not if he liked it or not, of course,
but the actual review. Like with Watchman,
where he reviewed the director and let the right one in remake, where he reviewed the
temerity of the film for existing, the review didn't seem to make any attempt to judge
the merits of the film just to complain that a new screen film even existed. Were there
plot twists and fake outs, of course, it's a screen film. Did they talk about how this
sort of genre film normally plays out, of course, it's a screen film. Did they talk about how this sort of genre film normally plays out?
Of course, it's a screen film.
Could people who are familiar with the franchise guess the killer from the clues?
Of course, it's a screen film.
If you like the series and know what to expect, then it was highly entertaining.
As with all the others, it did things slightly differently, but still followed the same
major beats.
While Marx seemed to be thrown by the twists and is this person dead or not,
I doubt anyone else in the cinema who had gone to see it because it was a screen film felt
the same way. Can I reply or do you want to? I'll just add another one and then
go ahead. Grif from the Forest of Dean. First time emergency
mailer. On the subject of Scream 6, Mark mentioned in the earlier review that he liked a bit
of mindless violence. So I was surprised to hear he didn't like Scream 6.
It had lots of mindless violence.
I found it to be the best Scream sequel in the franchise so far.
The usual callbacks, references and metahorror rules, conversations.
But what elevated this above the other sequels
was some of the best put together slasher set pieces for a number of years.
The ladder, the tube, and let's not forget the opening was a brilliant subversion of expectations.
I get marks complaints on how characters miraculously survive numerous stab wounds,
but most horror films, at most horror, it requires a certain suspension of disbelief.
In this case, it's the number of times you can get stabbed and still be okay.
On a recent rewatch of the exorcist, I had to turn it off because when Regan turns an echo around 360 degrees and was alive again in the next scene well, it just wouldn't happen.
Okay, should I do them in order? Yeah. The 360 degree head turn in the exorcist has got a cutaway
to carous, so therefore the implication is it's not actually happening because of course if
somebody's head turned around 360 degrees it would fall off. The cutaway was the subject of much argument between Freakin and Blatti but it is there for precisely that point.
So go back and watch the film again. Her head doesn't turn round through 160 degrees.
Carous thinks that he sees it. So, as far as the Watchman and reviewing the director, which is
Zack Snyder, well, you can think that's fine and I disagree. I think that it's important to come to a review of a film
like Watchman Understanding, how it might have been done.
And I don't think Zack Snyder is a talented director.
I just haven't liked his films for a very long time.
And so it's impossible to not talk about the way that Snyder
manages to do everything in terms of surface,
in terms of the screen franchise. I wasn't baffled by any of the plot twists, I just didn't care
enough to understand them. I mean, it's also utterly inconsequential. The thing with the first
scream is that there is a real shock in the opening, that opening sequence in the first scream
is as brutal as anything in a, you know, an Italian jello or a, jello or maybe the first Halloween.
It has real shock factor.
You really think, wow, that's brutal.
And it gives you the sense
that the rest of the film could go like that.
So I was scream six is concerned,
nothing matters, nothing hurts, nothing fatal,
nothing's of any consequence.
It's smug and self-referential.
I'm glad people have enjoyed it. I kind
of find it a bit difficult to sort of be told, well, you know, look, you're no longer reviewing
the film, you're reviewing everything else about it, because it's a bit like it's kind of part of
film criticism is to do with contextualizing stuff. I mean, hey, opinions are completely personal.
And I'm delighted that anyone got something out of a film
that I didn't.
It is impossible for me to throw away 50 years of horror
film watching and just pretend that Screams 6 is fine.
It's shoddy and empty in a way that the original screen wasn't and it is impossible
not to remember how passionate Wes Craven was about scream and Wes Craven's new nightmare
and how much those movies and their impact meant to him and how little it means to the people
who are making them now. Correspondence at CurmanAme.com.
Today's guest is an actor, so, yeah, surprisingly.
But he's also a rapper and singer-songwriter,
won a Grammy for being in Hamilton in 2016.
He starred in Black-ish, Wonder, and Blind Spotting among others.
He's in a new Apple TV plus series called Extrapolations.
You'll hear my interview with a great Davvy Diggs
after this clip.
With the drought and the fires, they think that filling the pool would be insensitive.
They're worried about the protests.
Using the pool water to put out the forest fires.
11 of these men set himself on fire the camp yesterday.
Was he protesting me swimming laps?
I know you don't follow this kind of stuff, but a lawyer David Buckel in Brooklyn
did the same thing in 2018 self-immolated to protest climate change. And did it work? Does it
ever work? Define work. It showed that the world is in pain, that change is needed.
So that is a clip from a new Apple TV plus series called Extrapolations. One of its
many stars is the fantastic Davy Diggs. I'm delighted
to say he's joining us from a luxury armchair. Are you in Los Angeles, Davy?
I'm in New York at the moment, New York City.
Well, it's very nice to welcome you to the program. I believe, by the way, having watched
Extrapolations and having been listening to your clipping album most of the day, that I just want to say this out now,
that you have one of the great voices that's recording,
one of the great voices on television.
It's so, it's a pleasure to be talking to you.
They go, that's the best.
Oh man.
That is so sweet of you.
I have always been at odds with my voice,
so it's really lovely to hear that.
No, I think it's fantastic.
Anyway, enough of that kind of stuff.
So, introduce us to extrapolations. No, I think it's fantastic. Anyway, enough of that kind of stuff. So introduces to extrapolations.
Take us into the future.
Just introduces to this series.
Yeah, I mean, the series starts not too far from now.
And each episode kind of jumps forward in time
with really fact-based logical extrapolations
of what we might be going through in terms of our
climate crisis. But the stories themselves are just personal stories of people who are dealing
with that in various different ways because it is the world outside. So my character, I play a
rabbi, Marshall Zucker, who about 30 years in the future from now, he's leading a
congregation in the synagogue is flooding.
You know, they have to wear boots in the congregation, which is like a pretty, where they are in
Florida, like that, that's real.
That could very well happen.
That's pretty likely actually given the sea level rise.
And so, so yeah, it is, it is the small kind of personal stories,
but where we don't ignore the most current climate science
that we have as we step forward into the future.
So, just a word on the title.
So the extrapolation is taking where we are now
based on the kind of decisions we're making
and what the science is telling us
and then taking us to 2037.
I don't know.
That's how I've always thought about it, but I didn't write it.
That works for me.
The cast list, I should say, it's not only one episode, but over a number of episodes,
you have Kit Harrington, Cienemella, Matthew Rees, Meryl Streep, David Schwimmer, Ed Norton,
Marron Cotjard, Forest Wittaker.
This is an incredible, incredible lineup.
How would you describe the series? Do they hang together? Is it one story? Is it an
anthology? How would you describe a whole series? It's not, it's not really an anthology in that,
like the, the storylines are all connected and we do meet the major players early on. So you,
you will be able to follow them through time, a lot of them.
But the stories, I would say, are pretty individualized. So like,
the episodes are kind of standalone, but put together, you are learning the totality of some of the characters the whole lives. So yeah, it's an interesting hybrid of series and anthology.
So we meet you in the first episode and then you kind
of dominate the the third episode. Tell us about Marshall Zucker, the Rabbi character that you play.
Just I think his mother describes him as a spiritual first responder, which is a which is a great phrase,
but how would you how would you describe Marshall Zucker? Yeah, I think he is like a lot of us, I think, was a really like passionate, activist young person
who has now found himself at a point in his life
where he's not, he's let go of some of that activism
and he's turning a blind eye to some things
he never would have before.
But he is like a, he's good at being a rabbi
and he's a good faith leader.
He cares very much about his community, but I think he's also in some ways going through
the motions.
And so that's where I meet him and he, um, a new, a new family joins his congregation.
And he's responsible for getting this young woman ready for her botnitzva, um, Alana.
And she starts asking questions that he doesn't have the answer to.
She really like challenges his faith as it relates to the current climate crisis in a way that he
was not prepared to do. She's fantastic. Yes. So I think it's Nesco Rose who plays Alana.
She's fantastic. But what's very interesting is that she makes you and therefore us
see the world as a teenager and is far more fundamentalist
if you like, and hardcore than you are.
Yeah, well, there's that thing about that.
I think we all deal with when we get older and have there are more responsibilities.
We have interacted with the world in different ways.
You know, finances become a thing in your life.
Like you start, when you strip all that away, there is like
right and wrong for Nesca, right? And so that's what that's what she's doing. It's not complicated
for her except this question of like, why would God who is good allow this to happen? Right? And so
and that's that is the the thing that that Marshall really has to have to sit with and struggle with in a way that
he hasn't since he was a teenager probably.
Yeah. I mean, I think it's fair to say that faith is one of the key parts of this particular
story because she will not let you off the hook. You know, is this God's punishment?
Why if God is so great, why doesn't he intervene? And although you do answer her, you kind
of don't really.
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Because how can you?
I don't know that there's a good answer, but I do like his conclusion that it's about
us.
I do think that ultimately for him, at least it was about, oh yeah, I can't be a passive
observer of the world and claim to be doing God's work.
Those things can't exist without each other.
I have to be actively making the change that I want to see.
Yeah, I thought that was like, that's the author's statement right at the end, isn't it?
When, you know, it's up to us, basically.
Yeah, yeah.
There is a section, I want to give everything away, but there is a section where you sing,
singing in the rain, there's a little, and you're in full kind of broadway, a Broadway mode.
And I thought at that point, this is a role you were born to play. You know,
because you get to do the sing and dance thing, but Marshall Zucker's ancestry is the same
as yours, African American and Jewish. And I thought, this is, you're the, of course,
it's David Diggs. Is that what, when you were sent the script, is that what you thought?
You know, I don't even know. This is what people have asked us. I can't remember if that
if that song and dance moment was in it, when it was first sent to me. But either way, like, I
I don't know. I found him in some ways really challenging to play. Yeah, but I think it was
really brilliantly constructed. And I do think like, yeah, I could see myself
as Leslie Eugum's kid for sure.
Why did you find it challenging?
I think, you know, that my relationship to my Judaism
is not practicing really, you know?
So, I haven't been for a long time
and I think re-examining that,
what it would mean for me to be a faith leader
is like a really,
it was a big jump for me.
And I talked to some rabbis,
I'd specifically like a couple in Florida,
which was really, really useful to see how those,
how they interacted with their communities.
Cause again, like I don't go to Temple,
I don't go to synagogue on the weekends.
So like that community aspect of it
was something that was actually quite foreign to me.
And that I had to do a lot of research on.
Well, you seem very, very familiar, you know, you're a, as soon as you turn up, you go,
oh yeah, of course, you're the rabbi. Absolutely.
Okay. I'm glad it works.
Could you describe a little about the tone? You can't obviously speak for the whole series,
but the shows that you're in because it obviously has a very, very serious kind of message.
But there is a lightness in tone as well.
And it's funny in quite a number of times when you're addressing your congregation, you
talk about, you know, we've conquered cancer.
We've been to Mars.
Democracy still exists, but you're not sure about Texas, you know.
And so there's a lot of, there's a lightness and a playfulness to it. Is still exists, but you're not sure about Texas, you know, and there's so there's a lot of there's a
Lightness and a playfulness to it. Is that how it came over to you? Yeah, yeah
I love that episode in particular because there are so many jokes in it
And I think they they cast a lot of really funny people in it the script is really funny
And I also think that's very true to that is very true to my experience with Judaism, right?
Like there is like part of that.
There's a tendency to find the humor in a situation for a lot of us. And so I thought that was
all really well tied into all of the themes of the episode. But yeah, it's super funny to me.
Yeah. And like, you're not going to hang out with Jed Hersh for too long without it making some
such a choice. Yeah, he's fantastic. And David Trimmer, well, what a nasty piece of work he is.
I mean, the role.
How great, right?
How great is he in the episode?
Yeah, you've never really seen him do so.
I hadn't seen him do anything like that before.
No, and he's cursing and everything.
He doesn't have any laughs at all.
You have the loves and you're playing opposite David Trimmer and he doesn't have any.
Yeah, take that, Schwimmer.
I do not sing and I'm not in a hip hop band. So this might be a dumb
question, David, but having listened to the album Visions of Bodys being burned, which I think
you did a couple years ago, is there something about working as a rapper and working a musician that
informs your delivery as an actor? That think that's the hard of the question.
Yeah, I mean, everything, you know, I've been rapping longer than I've been doing anything.
So really for me, like, that is, yeah, I'm a very, sort of, rhythm-based actor.
I, that is like, yeah, speech patterns, like pacing of scenes, things like that is the stuff that I always
really key into, you know, so like, which is also kind of a theater thing.
That's also part of my theater background, I guess, but like, it informs kind of everything
for me.
Where a line drops in space has a lot to do with whether it is funny or serious or understood that relationship between
rapper and audience that you cultivate when you're doing live shows is like really like
an exercise and energy management.
You can sort of use the same techniques and conversation, right?
Building suspense or holding for a moment when like if you wait a little too long to say
something, it means something different than if you, if you wait a little too long to say something,
it means something different than if you had said it at the right time, right?
All like very musical things.
That gives you an advantage over every other actor that I've just mentioned, I think.
I don't know.
I think it just makes me, I'm very good at that and very bad at other things, you know?
Does that inevitably, does the music take a back seat?
Well, the, the acting is going so well.
Well, I don't know. We just finished it out. We just finished the recording of an album, so
hopefully it will manage to get it out if we get it mixed and mastered by the end of the year.
I still, I still make a lot of music, but yeah, it is, it is, while the acting is going well,
it is much harder to find time to make music. I will say.
In contrast to all of that, you're about to be seen as the crab Sebastian in the little mermaid live action movie. Now there's variety, I think.
Yeah, man. Yeah, trying to show off my range.
David, it's a pleasure to speak to you. Thank you very much indeed for your time and extrapolations will be on Apple TV plus for AC and Davi, thank you very much for talking to us today. Thank you, thanks for having me. You can tell a lot about an actor by the length of their answers.
And did he want to talk about the crab Sebastian?
No, he didn't.
He'll come onto that.
Maybe did he want to talk about the influence of rap and his acting work?
Yes, he certainly did.
But that was a really good question, because that thing about the rhythm of the music being
part of the rhythm of the acting and the performance.
You could hear, I think so, but also the fact that you could hear him going, because that's
the...
Here's the thing he wants to talk about.
It's a really interesting episode.
I've only seen three episodes.
The first one I quite like, the second one I didn't,
Ciano Miller talking to Wales.
Yeah, I didn't leave that behind.
But this episode, the one that Debbie Diggs is talking about
when he's the Rabbi, I thought it was terrific.
Yeah, so that's episode three.
The series is by Scott, well, we'd say Scott Zodburn,
Scott Z Burns, as he's known, of course,
Stateside, who is the person behind a contagion,
which you remember is the film which suddenly,
during the pandemic, everybody started watching
because it was, you know, Oh, heavens above.
To me, that's the last film I wanted to watch.
I know, I know, and yet what was remarkable about it
is how much contagion got
right about the way in which a pandemic would happen.
And of course, what Scott Zeeman said was that he,
he just spoke to people.
He said, you know, look, what if how?
And again, we'll talk about this a little bit later on
when we're talking about last of us.
And the very opening of last of us, which kind of posits
this, this is how something would happen.
So in terms of extrapolation,
I hope it was very funny when that we digs, so it's extrapolating the situation now, and he went,
well, you could take it like that. How else could you take it? Yes. That is what it is. I thought
the third episode was really gripping. That's the only one I've seen. I'm not sure that I would feel,
I don't know about the one and two, it's episode two,
the way you described it sounded a little bit ropey. But what I liked about episode three was,
it has all the stuff that I like. So it has theology, it has in space, in space,
it has proper sort of, you know, faith versus science-based discussions. It has
older members of the community
being completely wrong-footed
by being out of the mouths of babes and fools,
angry children saying, what is God doing?
And why is God doing it?
And you're meant to have an answer to this question,
which of course, appeals to me.
I also think the way in which it's directed,
when you enter the singing in the rain sequence, there is the first time that you get the reveal in the synagogue that they're
all wearing Wellington's because they're up to their knees in water. And it's done really
cause I'd say there's a there's water on the ground and they're wearing wellies so they're
not in it. But it's it's done. It's done really well because it's kind of this is part
of life and all the stuff about the just the background broadcast about this place is closed and this place is closed.
And you know what they're trying to do is to save a particular building as opposed to
another particular building.
David Schwimmer being, I mean, I thought it was lovely when you said he's horrible, isn't
he?
I mean, the character he's playing as opposed to real life.
But I think, you know, it's catnip for me
because it's a discussion, I mean, obviously,
I do believe, as I think most rational people do,
that climate change is going to destroy the world
unless we do something about it.
And this is doing exactly what it says,
extrapolating where we think we will be
in a very short number of years time
and there will be substantial areas underwater and what does that mean. But also to put that in the context of a religious
discussion about what is God doing, is this God's vengeance? He's a great rabbi and the teenage
accuser is great at this. She's brilliant, isn't she? She's really really good. So this is very well written as I
said it, I went into this knowing that the Scott Z Burns was the guy behind contagion and remembering
the discussions that we had because I did watch contagion during the pandemic because suddenly it was
like number one on on planet and it was like, okay, yeah, that's really quite alarming.
So extrapolations terrible, by the way.
Really, if you're basing yourself.
It's impossible to remember it.
I know, but also it's kind of science fact.
It's set in the future.
There's so many dramatic moments.
Surely someone could have come up with that.
What does Merrill Streep do in this area?
I have you seen, she's not there yet.
Oh, she is Eve Shira, apparently,
but I'm not sure where she comes. Oh, well,
Sienna Miller's character is Rebecca Sheira. So is Eve Sheira.
Yes, maybe, but you know, in the talking to the Wales bit, I might have tuned out, but
anyway, because Debbie takes us in the episode too. So I watch one. Anyway, extrapolations
on Apple TV plus. So anyways, the ads in a moment, most of the first is time to enter once again
into our laughter lift.
Oh, has all.
F***.
Gap is so long.
Why is that?
Why is it so long?
What is the gap?
It's like, it's just too long.
Pressing the button to close your mouth.
It's Mary Mungo and Midge.
I marked you on the good news or the bad news?
Give me the bad news.
Well, the good news is you'll be pleased to know
that cousins, I have to be told in a certain way.
Okay, try to, okay.
What do you want the good news or the bad news?
And the good news, please.
The good news is you'll be pleased to know
that cousin Cecil has lost all that Christmas weight.
How did he do it?
Are you asked?
No, I don't know.
I'm glad you asked.
He's taken to wearing bread on his noggin.
That's right, Mark.
He's tried a loaf hat diet.
A loaf hat.
A loaf hat.
Okay, but why cousin Cecil?
It's just, that's just in irrelevant.
Yeah, that's just a detail.
Now the bad news.
Okay, now the bad news.
You know my obese parrot, Captain Giggles,
sadly died this week.
Okay.
It's a huge weight of my shoulders.
Okay, better.
Better.
Huge weight of my shelter, I think.
Well, he couldn't decide.
He's a good designer.
One sometimes he's on the other.
More bad news, Mark.
The good lady's ceramicist, her endorsement,
discovered I was cheating on her after she found all the letters I was hiding.
She got extremely angry and said,
she's never playing Scrabble with me again.
Good. I'm glad that's where that went.
That's from 1960. That's very good. What have we got still to come?
We've still got to come reviews of Rylane and Pearl,
which is the prequel to X.
Well, anyway, we'll be back after this, sorry, the next page.
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visit mx.ca slash business platinum. I don't know if you noticed, but I think my delivery in the laughter lift was slightly
stronger than normal because, well, child three took me.
So my birthday, this is not joke, this is a thing.
So for my birthday last year, I said to the family,
get me something that you're excited about,
and then I'll see if I can tag in.
Anyway, so it's taken a while, but Child 3 is into comedy.
Yes, Child 3 does comedy.
Yes, he does.
And so he took me to see a comedian called Glenn Moore,
who I hadn't come across before before because it's not my thing.
And we went to Leicester Square Theatre and it was the turn out to be the last date on a tour,
which he has called, will you still need me?
Will you still feed me Glenn?
I'm 60 more.
And in the post, Glenn and Moore is obviously comes out slightly.
So if it fits very well.
That's good.
And he was a good joke. He was very's good. And he was a good joke.
That's a good joke. And he was very good.
So I was listening and learning.
Child 3 described his comedy to me.
He said it in a way that was very, very funny.
It wasn't like I don't tell it.
What was... Can you remember the phrase that he used?
No. No, I can't. Well, anyway, good.
He said it. That's a good anecdote.
Okay, he said when he first was talking about comedy, he said,
oh, I'm doing this thing. We said, but then I do, and he said it.
And it was very, very funny. And then that was in then you're right.
It's a rubbish anecdote. No, I'm going to have a few times. I say it.
It's when he tells me I retells you what it is.
We'll come back in this and update you.
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So what about if it's improvisation?
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But also it's a traditional piece.
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What else have we got out?
Pearl, do you remember some time ago I reviewed X,
which is a film by Ty West who made it to the devil?
Okay. So X was sitting in the 1970s.
Tony's going to a Texas farm to make an adult film.
Me, a Goth, played two roles.
She played Maxine and Pearl, although it was possible,
as I said at the time, to Maxine and Pearl, although it was possible, as I said at the time, to pay Maxine and Pearl, although it was possible
to watch the film without knowing that,
and I very carefully, in my review of the original,
although you'd have to say it now,
because otherwise it wouldn't make any sense,
that it was perfectly possible to watch the film
without realizing that she was playing a dual role,
because she looked so completely different,
and everything about the performance was so completely different. Pearl is when they get to the farm, basically the farm is owned by this kind of hellfire family
with it on the television, there's all this stuff about hellfire and brimstone and the
movie is being made by people in the adult film industry.
It all goes very bad.
Good squishy pasty she fun. This now is the prequel, How Pearl became the
character that Pearl is in X. So this is co-written by Mia Garth, apparently her and Ty West wrote
the script together during lockdown. Set way back, Shadow of the Great War, of course the pandemic,
so there was, because after the Great War, there was,
there was the pandemic, as you know. So there are masks involved. There is infection out there.
So weirdly enough, that kind of ties in with what was recently happening with this kind of,
which was incorrectly labeled Asian flu. Is that what it was? Yes, and it's actually
flu, Spanish flu, or whatever flu. We just like to blame some of the dreams for it.
Anyway, um, so the film uses this kind of luscious, I mean, very process,
but it's the process to look like the technical accuse of a Douglas Cirque movie.
Lots of nods to the Wizard of Oz, a score by Tyler Bates and Williams that takes us
right back to the kind of golden age of Hollywood, lots of surging strings. I mean, really sort of beautifully surging strings. Everything
about it looks like, you know, genuinely an old movie. And we meet Mirgos' character,
she is Pearl. She is writing letters to her beloved who is off-fighting. And she's
been chastised by her sternly Germanic mother, who is also caring for her
invalid father, who is very ill and can't say anything at all, but is still a presence. And
as in during the pandemic, her mother doesn't want her going out because if you go out, you risk
bringing infections back into the house. She doesn't want to catch anything, whether it's viral or immoral, so sort of shades of Carrie White's mother from Carrie. But when Pearl does go to town,
she sneaks into the movies and she sees the dancers on the movies. And then she's then
befriended and I use the phrase appropriately by the projectionist who says, hey, come into
my projection booth, I can show you all the wonders of the cinema.
And he then sends her, he shows her a,
well, I think he's referred to as Stagreels.
And she says, what is this?
And he says, this, this is the future of cinema.
This is, you know, this is what's a Stagreel?
With the old pornoes.
I mean, they used to be played in gentlemen's smoking clubs,
I think is what they'm officially referred to.
She wants to be a movie star.
She wants to be a movie dancer.
And if that means that she has to escape
from the cloister of the farm, then so be it.
And at one point, she seems to be about
to introduce her invalid father
to the local crocodile or alligator. He's a clip.
I'm leaving soon.
I can't stay here any longer.
Howard was supposed to take me away.
Maybe easier for me if I didn't feel like I was abandoning you.
You understand that?
I love you, Daddy, but this is no way to live.
That's a very menacing crocodile approach.
Are they alligator? Is it? If it's an American, is it?
I don't know.
Are they all, anyway, whatever?
And dad's in a wheelchair and on the end of a jetty.
On the end of a jetty and swimming towards me,
God's character is a very large reptilian creature.
So me, a goth is a force of nature.
I remember when I was reviewing X and I said,
she's out there and you said, what do you mean by out there?
And I said, well,
as in, there's something mesmerizing about her screen presence and kind of borders on the sort of
almost madness. Next week, we will see her in Infinity Pool, which is absolutely out there.
And then some, that's the new film by Brandon Cronenberg, which is, I mean, really something, but really, really far out there.
In terms of this film, this is actually weirdly comparatively restrained in comparison to X.
I mean, X was an 18-stificate movie. This is a 15-stificate. Bbfc says,
strong violence, gore threat, sex, domestic abuse, as opposed to the 18, which X got, which was a
strong bloody violence, gore Gore, sex and sexual threat.
Her performance is just terrific.
It's somewhere between a kind of fairy tale dream of this young glowing world
and this screaming nightmare.
And the film ends, I mean, obviously you know the direction of it
because you know the story of X.
The film ends with a hold on her face
smiling at the camera. And do you remember the video by Shunato Conner for Nothing Compressed
to You, which is just the shot on her face and this range of emotions that goes through it?
Or the end of the Longod Friday in which Bob Hoskins is in the car and the camera just looks at Bob
Hoskins face for the end of the movie.
I would say that Mayor Goth's final shot at the end of Pearl is on a par with those, like
literally just watch somebody's face telling you a range of things.
The scene in which she befriends the scarecrow in the local field is brilliantly twisted.
I mean, her pearl, this, it's her performance
is somewhere between like gone with the wind, wizard of Oz, psycho, Texas, Chainsaw, Massacre,
a bit of Edgene thrown in. I mean, it's fun and pasty sheep. It's also kind of weirdly heartfelt.
And I think that's one of the things about Mirkoff, it's very, it's pasty, she's very, very hard to get right, because
it only works if there's a sincerity involved in it. And when you watch her on screen, there
is something very sincere and very raw about her performances, even when they are, when
they can be campy or they can be OTT or they can be she understands genre and one really neat thing here is at the end of
X there was this really haunting version of Chelsea wolf singing a song called We We Marry
but We We Marry was a song from the first world war Arthur feels did it in World War I and it's
a kind of it was just like a saucy song about We We Marry if you do this for me I'll do that for
you when it's like a kind of you know End of the PSO and at the end of X
They've got this really haunting dreamy
Nightmarish version of that song well of course here because we've taken back to where we are
They use the original but it's just sort of a piece which is very very neat if you know X
It's a lovely kind of cool back. I thought this was great. I mean, I so enjoyed it. And I,
I, it was really lovely to see, to see a horror franchise doing something interesting with a spin-off.
And I would refer us back to the previous email about Scream 6. This is what happens when you take
something that you love and you make something with love and care and attention for it. Scream 6 is what happens when you don't care.
Cinematic?
Yes.
And I mean, actually should be seen on a big screen because there are shots in it of
farms and fields and glowing skies that really want to be seen on a big screen.
Time for what's on, where you email us a voice note about your festival or special screening
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Hello Simon and Mark, this is Vanessa from Watch Out Austrian Film Festival.
Between 23rd and 26th of March at London, Siné Lumière will celebrate Austrian Film
New and Old.
Opening with the UK premiere of World War II drama The Fox, we also have a queer feature
and environmental doc, a sci-fi epic plus a rare screening of Fritz Lang's silent film, Woman in the
Moon with live piano accompaniment. See you there!
Vanessa, from Watch Out, Austrian Film Festival, just say that's Watch Out, A U T, Austrian Film
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audio trailer, correspondence at curbinocermodanmayo.com,
what else is out?
Rylane.
Rylane is the debut feature from Rain Alan Miller,
who became the host of Sundance in January.
This is like a very modern street wise rom-com.
I had the pleasure of interviewing her on stage,
and at one point she said this thing,
but she said, look, it's just a story about two people
having a lovely day together. Well, it kind of
is, but it's so isn't. The two central characters are played by David Johnson and Vivian Apara,
and they are Yaz and Dom. They meet when he is crying in the toilets of an art gallery
because he's broken up with his girlfriend and he's completely beside himself. And she
bangs on the door and says, you know, you're right. And he says, you mind, this is the gen.
She says, no, it's not.
This is a gender neutral toilet.
And he goes, well, this is private.
And he goes, it's not that private.
They then, they meet cute, you know, to meet cute setup.
And they then spend a period of time together, the rest of the day,
walking and talking about their lives,
confronting their past.
She has recently broken up with her boyfriend,
who's a pretentious artist,
and she says the reason that she broke up with him
is because he's the kind of person
that would never wave at boats on the terms.
She's there are two kind of people.
People who, when people on boats waver you,
the rule is you have to wave back to them.
Then you are, you are exactly fine.
Am I okay?
No, it's lovely, but what's lovely is that you said yes
in that way that it was like, yes,
you got that immediately.
In terms of people that won't do that,
that's never gonna work out all right.
They both have issues with their exes,
they both have stories to tell.
They walk through and it's basically
Brixton, South Bank, Peckham,
really sort of beautifully chosen locations.
I mean, really sort of lovingly chosen locations,
and as they walk, they talk his eclip.
So what did you now you've escaped the couches of the carn?
Like, with your post-care of see-life?
Oh, I'm gonna count you.
Boring!
Okay.
No free popcorn chicken, but still, that's like a proper job.
Yeah, it's not particularly glamorous.
No.
But as you kind of love it.
No, is that what you've always wanted to do?
Have you put yourself some faulty ambition, Barley Wayne, you got...
You know you're very...
Peng, refreshingly disarmament?
You ask a little question.
I'm interested in people's messes.
Or make sure you've got a mess.
Everyone has a mess.
Hi.
I'm sure you've got a mess. Everyone has a mess.
Now the thing that you see from that first,
they're kind of that lovely sort of flowing tone
of the way the dialer works,
but also from looking at that clip,
if you saw it on the screen.
The colors are very primary.
There's like reds and greens and pinks
and blues and they're very kind of color coordinated.
And it has, when this seems like a strange comparison, You know, there's like reds and greens and pinks and blues and they're very kind of color coordinated and
It has when this seems like a strange comparison, but the way in which the locations a shot reminded me to some extent of
Antony only blow up in which every single thing about the locations is very strictly color coded But it's also meant to look kind of accidental as if he hasn't gone out of his way to
To do that.
What I love about this is, first the script is very sharp and the script is written by, excuse
me, while I just get this in front of me, Nathan, Brian and Tom Elliott.
And the script has a kind of Richard Curtis like Romcom feel to it.
If you ever do a London location romcom, you're always going to be compared to Richard Curtis like Romcom feel to it. And if you ever do a London location romcom, you're always gonna be compared to Richard Curtis.
The film confronts that head on,
because there is one scene in which they go to a burrito joint
called Love Gwaksholi.
Oh good.
Which I thought was really, really nicely done.
It's like a way of going, yeah, okay, fine.
The way in which the camera moves around them
and kind of flows around them, it's almost like dance.
And in that scene,
as they walked past, there was an open, there's a piano with the keyboard open. And she just runs her
hand up the piano. And it's like it's always on the brink of, you know, perhaps going to be,
it's going to turn into a musical. Actually, there are karaoke scenes. There is also a sequence in
which someone sings, sign your name at a barbecue, which is really, really weird. And although there's
a lot of dialogue, a lot of it is to do with the way that they move around each other, which is really, really weird. And although there's a lot of dialogue,
a lot of it is to do with the way that they move around each other,
the way that, I mean, you saw that,
that as they were walking together,
she was sort of, she was almost sort of walking around him
like it was a dance move.
And I was enchanted by it.
I loved the fact that it felt like it had a location.
It's got a kind of visual cheekiness
that's very reminiscent in some sequences of peep show,
but it also has that kind of before sunrise,
before sunset thing that the link later movies have got
that in a compact period of time,
two people learn an awful lot about each other
and you sort of realize that there's something magical
about the connection that they've made.
It's uplifting and charming,
and the characters are shopping.
It's very funny.
It's very, very funny.
There's a lovely thing about a photographer who takes very close up pictures of people's mouths.
He says, it's the stone hinge of the face, which is a terrific line.
And it's right now, you kind of feel like you want to go to the cinema and see something
that will put a spring in your step, you know, and a song in your heart, and also make you think,
you know what, we're making great movies.
We're making really great movies, and I think this is exactly that kind of film.
It's a real crowd pleaser, and it's had rapturous responses from critics, and I think rightly
so.
So I think Rainn Alan Miller is a really sort of great new talent, and I think rightly so. So I think Rainn, Alan Miller is a really sort of great new talent
and I think we'll be seeing much more of her in the future. David Johnson, of course, people will
know. And Vivian Apara is terrific. And I thought the movie just, it was great. So yeah, it's called
Rylane, go and see it. It's a really uplifting thing. And right now, hey, it's only what? Take your mother to see it. Oh, okay, yes.
Take your mother to Rylane.
Does Rylane work?
Does maybe that work?
But it's like, if it's that or 80 for Brady, maybe Pearl.
I mean, maybe your mother would enjoy that.
That's what I was wearing.
Very few mothers would enjoy it.
But no, it's really, really good.
That's the end of take one.
Production, management, general, all-round stuff,
Lily Hamley basically runs
the whole thing, does the cameras and so on.
Videos are by Ryan.
She writes my reviews.
Oh, okay, that's good.
Videos are by Ryan Omira and Sancia Panzer.
Studio engineer Josh Gibbs, hair was by Delilah,
guest research, Sophie Ivan.
Flynn Rodham was the assistant producer and guest booker.
Bodie Moroni did the catering.
Johnny's socials was on the socials.
Hannah Tulbott's the producer. Simon Paul was the red actor. Mark, what is your film of the week?
Well, it's a double bill. My double bill film of the week is Rylane and Pearl. Go see
both of them. They're both great. Thank you for listening. Our extra takes with a bonus
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