Kermode & Mayo’s Take - Fly Me to the Moon, Hundreds of Beavers, Longlegs & Despicable Me 4

Episode Date: July 11, 2024

No guest this week, but that just means more from your favourite professional witterers – and a whole load of reviews! Mark gives his thoughts on various new releases including ‘Fly Me to the Moo...n’, a romantic comedy-drama starring Scarlett Johansson and Channing Tatum, which sees sparks fly between a marketing executive and a NASA official as he makes preparations for the Apollo 11 moon landing; ‘Hundreds of Beavers’, a zany slapstick comedy in which a drunken applejack salesman must go from zero to hero to become North America’s greatest fur trapper by defeating, you guessed it, hundreds of beavers; and ‘Longlegs’, a serial killer horror in which Nicolas Cage plays the eponymous homicidal maniac. Mark also gives his take on ‘Despicable Me 4’, the fourth instalment of the animated comedy franchise, replete with his beloved minions, which, this time, sees Gru, having just welcomed a new member to the family, have his peaceful existence threatened when criminal mastermind Maxime Le Mal escapes from prison and vows revenge against him. A chocka-block week, indeed! Timecodes (relevant only for the Vanguard - who are also ad-free!): 08:19 – Hundreds Of Beavers Review 11:56 – Box Office Top Ten 29:33 – Fly Me To The Moon Review 37:30 – Longlegs Review 48:44 – Despicable Me 4 Review You can contact the show by emailing correspondence@kermodeandmayo.com or you can find us on social media, @KermodeandMayo EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ➼ https://nordvpn.com/take Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! A Sony Music Entertainment production. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts and follow us @sonypodcasts To advertise on this show contact: podcastadsales@sonymusic.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Some of us love history. Others used to or never did because history was presented as nothing but the rote memorization of names, dates, and facts. Basically, the story got left out and that made history kind of suck. My name is Greg Jackson. I'm a university professor with a PhD in history and bringing history to life is my passion. That's why I created my podcast, History That Doesn't Suck. I want to teach you everything you need to know about US history, but I do so through stories. Let me tell you about George Washington begging his men not to mute me against Congress. Clara Barton's saving Union soldiers amid enemy fire,
Starting point is 00:00:38 enslaved Frederick Douglass risking his life for liberty, and about so many other figures as their real experiences make industrialization, social movements, and even congressional debates and tax policies come to life. Subscribe to History That Doesn't Suck today, and join me, Professor Greg Jackson, every other week for a new episode, where I'd like to report, by the way, since last week's on the election show, the show which dropped on the day of the election, but many people will have heard it, I suppose, after the election. So, they'll be aware about the voting choices that I had in this part of showbiz North London, that world socialism, which I was told to spoil my ballot paper for, has actually won. And workers control
Starting point is 00:01:36 of the means of production has actually happened. And small bands of Trotskyists are wandering the street being hounded by even larger groups of Stalinists with pickaxes. And also, as a real surprise, the battleship Potemkin has arrived in town. So, as you can tell, it's all changed here. Have you seen any of this in your part of the world? No, no, there ain't no party like a Claws 4 party. No, that hasn't happened down here. But of course, Cornwall has gone completely Tory free. Completely Tory free. Yes, I was sent a map, which it seemed to be orange and red. I'm not quite sure. That's right.
Starting point is 00:02:22 I'm not quite sure how that happened. And the orange was the same color as the man who was dressed as a baked bean standing next to Jacob Rees-Mogg as he lost his seat. You do wonder- A picture from the ages. How this goes down, around the world, they think, well, I've heard about the mother of parliaments and all this kind of stuff. And then Count Binface is next to Rishi Sunak. The baked bean man is next to Jacob Rees-Mogg. And there was like a seven-foot Elmo who was at one of the big, can you think of this is genuinely astonishing,
Starting point is 00:02:52 this tradition of kind of joke candidates, which aren't really joke candidates. And Liz Truss had to be slow hand clapped onto the stage in order to lose. I mean, it looked like she wasn't coming on. Well, that's because world socialism has broken out. It's because the workers had taken over the means of production and they were saying no. This summer, by the way, I managed to negotiate our cruise, the Wittentainment cruise is actually on the battleship Potemkin. Is it?
Starting point is 00:03:21 So I think it might kind of not have a lot of luxury. It's not going to have sumptuous ballrooms and dining rooms and bathroom en suites. I think it's going to be military rations for everybody. Sorry about that, by the way. How did that end? Oh, in a slaughter. There you go. Okay. Who wants to go on a cruise anyway? Yeah. Bring your own pram. There we go. Well, yes. Welcome to all this thing. What are you doing? What are you doing, Mark? What am I doing? Are you all right? Have you had too much coffee this morning? Yes. Absolutely. I'm going to be reviewing some films, including hundreds of beavers., yes really, Long Legs, which is a kind of
Starting point is 00:04:07 creepy horror movie, Fly Me to the Moon, a film about the faking or not of the moon landing and Despicable Me for … Fly Me to the Moon, well it wasn't a fake so that's … No, no, no, it's fine. All will be explained. Okay, all right. Very good. Also, for subscribers and the elite, our recommendation feature the Weekend Watchlist and the Weekend Notlist TV Movie of the Week. Long Legs, as you mentioned, we're going to give some further relevant viewing suggestions
Starting point is 00:04:37 in one frame back this week. It's the best Nick Cage movies, ad-free episodes of Ben Babysmith and Nimone Shrink the Box, you know, Larry David, Michael Scott from the US Office, Chandler Bing, that kind of stuff. More in-depth character analysis dropping every week. Plus we answer your film and non-film related queries and quandaries in questions, Schmestrens. And we have a bonus review which you're skipping over. It's literally what I do.
Starting point is 00:05:02 It's literally my job on the show is to do the review. What is our premium and bonus review, Mark? which you're skipping over. It's literally what I do. It's literally my job on the show is to do the review. What is our premium and bonus review? Well, I'm very glad you asked. Our premium and bonus review, which is what I do on this show, is in a violent nature. Do you think that'll be violent? We might not have time for that, but certainly that's the plan. And that sounds particularly premium and you can get it all via Apple podcast. So I head to extra takes.com for non fruit related devices. And if you are already in the elite, in the Vanguard as always, we salute you.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Okay. An email correspondence at koenameo.com. Dear RCP and RCT, with reference to your recent comments about spoiled ballot papers. Yes. I write to, so this is written on the day of the election, I think. I write to encourage those who are planning to spoil their ballots in future to plan ahead and to do so in as creative and witty way as possible, manner as possible. Having assisted with the count in the recent general election, this is an anonymous email, I can personally vouch that the discovery
Starting point is 00:06:09 of a high quality spoiling of ballot brings much needed light relief to the weary ballot counters at 3am in the morning, with the best examples being passed around the table for shared chuckles and lols. Even better, one of my colleagues then has to straight-facedly hold up each of the individual spoilt ballots in turn to the group of wannabe MPs and their agents so that they can all agree that the paper is genuinely spoiled and not in some way including a preference for a particular candidate that should be added and therefore put back into the count, which is pretty much the highlight of the night. This is going to be problematic for me reading this out, so I'm going to have to see what
Starting point is 00:06:51 I can do. Sadly, far too many sport ballots are lacking in imagination, mostly comprising of pictures of willies. I did, however, this year enjoy the voters who had in advance printed stickers which they stuck onto the ballots so as to rename several of the candidates. And also to the voter who simply wrote C word, plural, against each of the candidates, except for the candidate of one particular party against whom they'd written even bigger C word, plural. Fill in the blanks. Technically,
Starting point is 00:07:23 I would argue that this indicated a preference as to which party they at least didn't want to vote for, but our system doesn't work like that, which in this case was a shame. Love the show, Steve. Down with the Nazis and up with grownup considered politics from people who recognize that the answers to life aren't simple and who treat other human beings with respect. Yours, and I'd be grateful if you don't share my name, things with respect. Yours and I'd be grateful if you don't share my name, unless someone decides I'm not suitably serious enough about voting and shouldn't be allowed back. I'm particularly impressed by someone who, as indeed as I'll corresponded, who had the time and the money and the effort to print stickers that would fit on the ballot paper with rude
Starting point is 00:08:02 words and renaming of the candidates. That's very good. Joe Orton and his partner used to make a pastime of going to libraries, getting books and altering them so that they became obscene and then putting them back in the library so that people would then read an obscene version of a book as it was not written. I would like to say on the subject of voting, always remember, funny as it may be to draw a willy on a piece of paper, people died so that you had the right to vote. So, you know, swings and roundabouts. Yeah, I think we should do it like in Australia, where it's like legally enforceable. Have we talked about that? I think we probably have. Do they actually, do you get fined if you don't go?
Starting point is 00:08:40 I think so. Yeah. But the great thing about that is it means that politicians, there's no point in quotes, talking to your base, because if everyone has to vote, you have to talk to everybody. Mind you, they have their fair share of terrible politicians and governments as well. So maybe it doesn't solve anything at all. So anyway, correspondents at kerbenamayo.com, any other insights into voting from around the world? Particularly if we used to have a listener in North Korea. We did. I suspect you're not listening anymore, but anyway, or if you are, you probably can't get us an email.
Starting point is 00:09:11 Or you're not in North Korea anymore. Yes, that's true. Anyway, do us a review, Mark, something that's intriguing because I think you have one. Well, intriguing definitely. Hundreds of Beavers, which is a black and white oddball comedy co-written and directed by Mike Cheslik. It looks like an old 20s, 30s slapstick silent film, although it has non-verbal sound, weird sound effects. It also has shades of Guy Maddin, who's the mad Winnipeg auteur. Co-writer Rylan Bricks and Colchews is this drunken 19th century Applejack salesman who finds himself in conflict with hundreds of beavers after they eat the supports of this giant keg,
Starting point is 00:09:54 which then rolls into his fireplace and explodes. And if you think that doesn't make much sense, wait for the rest of the film. He wakes up in the winter snow, he's starving, he makes several failed attempts to catch food, he becomes a trapper, he engages in a series of slapstick encounters with the local wildlife. The local wildlife, all of whom are played by people in animal costumes. Do you remember the Dom Jolly show, Trigger Happy TV? Yes. You remember there was a regular recurrent sketch in it, which was people dressed as bunnies and people dressed as cats getting into fights.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Squirrels. But doing completely inappropriate things in public. Right. Well, then reimagine that as a Buster Keaton 1920s slapstick serial comedy short, and then take that and reinvent it as a level-jumping, Super Mario-style video game, and then take that and get Guy Madden's wackier twin to direct it. And that is kind of what Hundreds of Beavers is like.
Starting point is 00:10:54 And I know that you now have a very clear picture in your head of what the film's like. It was shot over 12 weeks. It was on a budget of $150,000. The previous film that the pair made this made cost $7,000. The visual effects were done on Adobe. So, you know, Adobe After Effects, a real homemade affair. I mean, at times it's like a kind of live action loony tunes animation, although it's a lot more loony. And it's got great tunes at any point. Chris Ryan is the composer. It premiered at
Starting point is 00:11:23 Fantastic Fest in 2022. It's gone on to play lots of genre festivals like Fantasia and Sitges. It had a one night only release this week, but there are promises of further screenings and of course it will also be available to stream. It's really, I mean, it's very entertaining. As somebody who is a big fan of Slapstick, and we'll talk about this again when we talk about despicable me. It's genuinely quite bananas and it is genuinely quite funny and the strangest thing about it is that in the middle of all this old 1920s slapstick style stuff there's an awful lot of jokes about modern video games. I enjoyed it. It's not for everyone.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Would you say it's family fair? Well the BBFC says 12A for moderate sex references and comic violence. There's an email here from Jai who says, I just saw this film and loved it. Although I'm generally easily pleased by most movies. So I wondered what a more critical and professional opinion of the film would be. Well, that's it. It's like watching a live action cartoon. It has a fairly simple plot.
Starting point is 00:12:23 They're really just the excuse for a string of slapstick cartoon violent scenes, but like watching a good Bugs Bunny or Road Runner cartoon, it was a thoroughly enjoyable hundred minutes. I laughed aloud multiple times and chuckled for much of the rest of the time. Hope everyone else enjoys this low-budget indie movie as much as I did. Good. Very good. Yes, I think people will. Okay, what are you doing next by the way? Fly me to the moon. Next. What do we have here? Oh, it's an advertisement from BetterHelp Therapy. That's because Kermode and Mayo's take where I sometimes step into Mark's patent leather wingtip shoes is brought
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Starting point is 00:14:31 But Fly Me To The Moon is certainly on the way. It's on the way. It is, certainly. Excuse me. The box office top 10 brought to you, it doesn't say with Comscore, but I don't think there's any other place to actually, you know, I am sometimes offered alternative charts, but I say, no, I'm with Comscore. Did you get canvassed by them? Did they come knocking on your door? They crossed the road saying, have a box of his top 10 and I go, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:14:54 my heart is with Comscore. I've devoted my life to Comscore. Anyway, at number 24, The Nature of Love. Which I thought was surprisingly enchanting. When you see the trailer for it, it looks like a really annoying rom-com, but actually the film itself is, I think, rather tender and has got very interesting take on what people want and what people do and the conflict between those two things. Number 16 is the 50th anniversary 4K restoration of The Conversation. One of the great movies of the 1970s, if you haven't seen it, take this opportunity to go back and see it in cinema. As Walter Murch, who was the brilliant sound designer on it, said, the strangest thing
Starting point is 00:15:39 about it was that the film with probably the greatest sound design of all time lost out at the Oscars to Earthquake, which is a film which goes... ... 14 in the States, number 13 in the UK is Kill. Yeah, which is kind of like Train to Busan meets The Raid. It says Kill on the title, the title comes up halfway through the film, after which they just kill everyone. Have you just spoiled it?
Starting point is 00:16:10 No. I think if you go and see a film called Kill, and then the killing happens and you're surprised or you think that's a spoiler, you need to get out more. Fair enough. Number 11 is Blue Lock the movie, Episode Nagi. So here's an email from Will. Excellent. Mark and Simon, alumni of Exeter University here, who once had the pleasure of watching Mark interview Simon about a book he had authored in our actual auditorium. I remember that. You made a joke about my Cornish pasty shoes, which I still have. It was mad, wild, stirring, available from all good bookshops. What a tale that is. I am writing in response to Mark's review on Blue Lock. As someone
Starting point is 00:16:43 who had watched and relatively enjoyed the show, I went to see Blue Lock episode NARGY yesterday evening. In summary, the film is a recap of the first season, but from a different character's perspective with perhaps 20 minutes of new scenes spliced between existing scenes from the show. I was looking forward to seeing the film to see an interesting character fleshed out, but sadly the film didn't really add anything for me that I didn't already know or couldn't be inferred about the character just from watching the show. I found the editing to be messy and became confused as they quickly sped through the equivalent of 24 20-minute episodes in the space of 90 minutes, and I'd watched the
Starting point is 00:17:18 show only last year. I'm not really sure who this movie was meant to be for as it mainly served as a recap before the second season comes out later this year. It might be good to watch in preparation for the second season release, but definitely not worth a cinema trip. That's really fascinating because as I said, when I saw it, I had no idea what was going on having not seen the series. Firstly, my question was, well, is it a movie? The fact that it's got the words of the movie in the title.
Starting point is 00:17:45 And secondly, the who is it for question is really interesting because if it's not for the fans of the series who already know this stuff, then is it to bring new viewers on board? That would be me, and I was left baffled. So thank you for that insider view because I had no idea what was going on. Yes, Will, thanks for that. And Jack Phillipson says, I'm not personally a fan of Blue Lock myself, so I can't comment on the qualities of that particular film. But I don't need to have seen it to know that the answer to Mark's question, why is it in
Starting point is 00:18:16 a cinema, is because it was a popular anime TV series and popular anime TV series get spin-off films. Sometimes these films essentially function like extended episodes of the series. Sometimes they retell or reimagine the story of the series and sometimes they are literally the TV series re-edited for a theatrical release. The Blue Lock film is in the second category since it follows the events of the TV series from the perspective of a different protagonist. A notable example from the first category that Mark may have seen is, is it Hayao Miyazaki? Hayao Miyazaki, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:52 Yeah, I knew it was Miyazaki. I wasn't sure whether it was Hayao or Hayao. First feature length film, Lupin 3, The Castle of Cagliostro, which was spun off from the Lupin 3 TV series, which was airing at the time. It can actually end up being slightly irritating for me as an anime fan in the UK when a series I like gets a film because only a few of the most popular series will get an international cinema release for their films. The ones that don't end up in cinemas here often don't end up going straight to streaming either. So they can be a bit difficult to get hold of. Anyway, interesting inside information from Jack. Yes, thank you. As always, we rely on the listeners. Thank you very much for those two
Starting point is 00:19:30 very, very informative and very interesting emails. Into the 10, Jatt and Juliet 3 at 10. Yeah, which is the sequel to Jatt and Juliet 1 and 2, and I haven't seen it because it wasn't press screened. If it's still there, it's at number 9. Still doing better than we expected. I mean, it's been in there for, is it eight weeks now? So yeah, you know, holding on in there. Kinds of kindness is at number eight, number 11 in the States.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Won't be around for much longer. Well, you know, this year's Bo is Afraid for you and me. I really liked it, you didn't really like it. I thought it was funny. You thought it wasn't funny Divisive is the word the Garfield movies at seven. Yeah All right. Okay. That's fine. Number six is Cal key 2898 ad 2898 ad now, this is the sci-fi movie that wasn't press green You remember that I said I was gonna go and see it over the weekend. Yep I knew you wouldn't it wasn't playing here So I will go and see if I can find a cinema that's playing it, movie that wasn't press screen. You remember that I said I was going to go and see it over the weekend. Yep. I knew you wouldn't. It wasn't playing here.
Starting point is 00:20:26 So I will go and see it if I can find a cinema that's playing it, but it wasn't playing here. The Bike Riders is at number five. Not the film perhaps that the poster suggests or indeed the trailer suggests, but I liked it very much. And as I said before, if you see this and you like it, check out Katharine Bigelow's The Loveless, to which it owes a very great debt. You could also, if you're doing it in your background, you could watch the Marlon Brando, The Wild One, although we had a very interesting correspondence a couple of weeks ago from somebody
Starting point is 00:20:51 who had done that and got back and watched The Wild One and found it really problematic. Tim said, this is on the subject of Maxine, which is at number four, new entry number four and also number four in the States. This is from Tim Brodenel, Duke of Edinburgh Bronze Award. I recently went to watch Max Threen at the wonderful and sparsely populated Arc Cinema in Beeston and had a great time for the first hour. Mia Goff is brilliant as always and Kevin Bacon is having the time of his life.
Starting point is 00:21:21 The look of the neon drenched, seedy Hollywood underbelly was incredibly well realized, feeling alive and dangerous. However, the last 30 minutes descends into pantomime silliness with the final confrontation seemingly dropped in from a bad 80s action film. It feels rushed with out of nowhere character reveals and multiple off-camera deaths. it fails to provide a satisfying conclusion to the main character's story or emotional arc. A special mention to Lily Collins's Yorkshire accent. If it wasn't for her literally saying the words, I'm a North Yorkshire girl, I wouldn't have known the accent that she was attempting. It was like going on a tour of the entire British Isles with the car radio randomly tuning into different local radio stations
Starting point is 00:22:08 at every other word. A bizarre, distracting, and completely pointless character detail. Luckily, she was only in the film for two scenes. It's a shame to leave the series on such an unsatisfying climax. However, there are still plenty to enjoy in the performances. Visual flair, moments of brutal gore. That's from Tim and James in Basingstoke. I was a huge fan of X and I thought Pearl was even better. Maybe my expectations for Maxine were too high or maybe nothing can top that Pearl finale. But I felt that although Maxine had some interesting elements and ideas, it didn't feel anywhere near as satisfying as a whole. But something else bothered me. I'm a child of the 80s. Over the last decade or so, I've really loved films like Drive
Starting point is 00:22:50 and Censor. But in the same way I have superhero fatigue, I feel I also have quasi-80s fatigue or quasi-80s fatigue. I feel there are just too many films and TV shows that are trying to emulate the look and feel of the 80s. What's wrong with just watching old episodes at top of the pops? Presented by up and coming baby faced Simon Mayo, Friday night's BBC Four. Also, Maxine was my third 18 rated film at the cinema last week after Inner Violent Nature and Kill. As a psychopath and fan of splattery films like Robocop, I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'd really like to see a film where someone's head doesn't explode. Well, try if, I would say. I'm thoroughly desensitised now. That said, the end credits were perfect, as was the choice of song. James and Basingstoke, thank you. So that's Maxine at number four.
Starting point is 00:23:36 All right. Well, I know a few people have been down on Maxine and have said it's the weakest of the three. Although I think it's, you know, I mean X is great. Pearl is really, really great. I mean, I really enjoyed Maxine and I did the interview with Ty West. I'm going to grant you 100% Lily Collins accent. And what we really need is for Jason Isaacs to do a Lily Collins tour of the world with that voice in the same way as he did with Russell Crowe when he did Robin Hood. Yeah. And you're quite right. If she didn't actually say, I'm a Yorkshire girl, you wouldn't know what accent it was she was doing. So yes, that is distracting and completely weird. Beyond that, I mean, I think maybe I'm just mesmerized by Mia Goth's performance.
Starting point is 00:24:16 And I did really enjoy the film. I did really enjoy the film, evidently more so than other people. And the thing about the 80s throwback, I mean, we've had movies like The Guest and we've had, you know, things coming out in VHS boxes where nobody's got videotape anymore. Yeah, I know, I know, we've had a lot of it, but I still have a fondness for it, but you are right. You could always watch Top of the Pops 2 or whatever it's called on BBC Four
Starting point is 00:24:44 on Friday night, 7, 8 o'clock. Yes, I always get strange messages from people saying, that's a ridiculous suit you're wearing. And I suddenly think, oh, I must be. Top of the Pops is old. It must be. An old Top of the Pops, making kind of quips about whatever is on in the news, which obviously make absolutely no sense at all when shown a quarter of a
Starting point is 00:25:06 century later. My favourite thing about those Top of the Pops introductions are the people standing next to you, very excited about being on camera, who you know have all got a videotape of that moment. A friend of mine the other day literally sent me a little video clip of one of those Top of the Pops intros in which their face is apparently evident in the background for about a second. They said, you've got to look hard, but it is there. I'm not quite sure. Yes, I will do that. These moments are very important. There was a period in the seventies where the girls slash women were always draped over the presenter. Yeah. Yeah. But there was obviously a point where everyone
Starting point is 00:25:51 thought, you didn't go in for all that nonsense. Maybe not. No, there was no draping by the time I was there, but that was 1986, you know? So I think the draping period was mid seventies. Yeah. Anyway, we moved on and the world got better. In the charts, number three, number five in America, Bad Boys, Ride or Die. You know, it's taken a huge amount of money. I didn't have much fun with it, but other people appear to have done so. So, you know, hey, it's just franchise fodder. UK number two, A Quiet Place, day one. So as the correspondents from last week were saying, it has certainly succeeded in once
Starting point is 00:26:27 again managing to make audiences go quiet, which in this day and age is a remarkable thing. I don't think it's scary, but I think it is tense and I think that Lipit and Iongo is terrific in the lead role. The UK number one movie and number two in the States is Inside Out 2. Now the highest grossing film of the year as far as the UK and Ireland box office is concerned. It's now in the top 25 grossing movies of all time and is Pixar's biggest movie ever. Will Barron Well, it just goes to show that all those
Starting point is 00:26:56 things that worried me about whether or not it would land as solidly as Inside Out, we're completely wrong. I mean, I'm really, really pleased that it's done as well as it has. It's been great getting emails from people who have been to see it with their kids and had really profound experiences with it. Inside Out was my favorite film of the year it came out.
Starting point is 00:27:18 I don't like this as much, but I think it is still pretty remarkable. And like I said, you just, you can't argue with the responses that people have had. People have had proper, properly moving time in the cinema with their family. And as we've mentioned many times, the thing about the grossing and biggest movie ever measured by financial take is problematic because that's not necessarily the same as Bums. In fact, it's definitely not the same as Bums on Seats. It just means it's just, everything is more expensive, but it's a clear indication
Starting point is 00:27:47 of the fact that it's a massive film. Yes. I think they can pat themselves on the back and go, well, we got away with that. And they'll probably be inside out three in a few years' time based on that, you would imagine. So that's the box office top 10. It's the ads in a minute, Mark. But first, hey, you know what? There's just time to squeeze in a quick trip up to floor seven in our laughter lift. Going up. I mean, I know what's coming, so I'm already laughing and smiling. Mark, bit of a tricky week at home with, you know, who she came back on Saturday and said,
Starting point is 00:28:20 an amazing thing happened. I saw a deer on the way home from shopping today. Absolute rubbish. I said, how could you possibly know it had been shopping? Hey! Anyway, I called the incontinence hotline this week. I mean, you know how it is when you get past mid-50s. They asked if I could hold. So, I've been catching up on the news from your neck of the woods, Mark. Apparently a huge haul of cannabis was washed up on New Lynn beach. Scientists are now studying its effects on some medium sized birds that you're likely to see inland as well as at the coast who've actually digested it.
Starting point is 00:28:57 Apparently they're leaving no turn unstoned. That's a certain Two Ronnies quality to it. Yes, exactly. That was actually a Two Ronnies gag about Cabri. Wheel tappers and shunters thing, wasn't it? Anyway, very good. Also, your initial joke was a variation on the joke which is in the beginning, Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, this morning I shot an elephant in my pajamas.
Starting point is 00:29:17 What he was doing in my pajamas, I'll never know. Very good. Deep sea divers with chicken pox, do they come up to scratch and so on. Still to come, Mark. Before you do that, there was a collision in the sea between a tanker full of blue paint and a tanker full of red paint. The crew have been marooned.
Starting point is 00:29:34 Very good. No, that is very good. There you are, and you've done it with style and a flourish as we exit the laughter lift. That thing that Mark said he was going to be doing next, well... Yeah, fly me to the moon. He's going to be doing it next. Xtree Xtree, your favorite anime is getting a new season.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Hi, I'm Nick Friedman. And I'm Lee-Alec Murray. And I'm Leah Presnant. Every week you can listen in while we break down the latest pop culture news and dish on what new releases we can't get enough of. We're covering the latest in film, video games, music, manga, and obviously, anime. Get the latest on the anime effect. So join us every Friday wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:30:14 And watch full video episodes on Crunchyroll or the Crunchyroll YouTube channel. It's Kathy Burke here. Can I ask you something? How do you want to die? Is that a bit forward? Well, you clearly haven't been listening to our podcast Where There's a Will There's a Wake. Every week I have an atta to some of our favorite people about their fantasy funeral. And my god, we've had some fabulous guests through my deathly doors,
Starting point is 00:30:38 including Danny Dyer, Dawn French and Sir Steve McQueen from Sony Music Entertainment. Where There's a will, there's a wake. Listen wherever you get your podcasts. Fly me to the moon while I'm looking forward to it very much. First of all, Philip Schvare, dear Arthur Rosenberg and Mason Parrish, as a tribute to the brilliant Ken Russell, here are my top five songs to dance naked around the room. Oh, fabulous. Fabulous. I mean...
Starting point is 00:31:06 Just in case you're not up to speed with this, this is because when Ken Russell first heard The Rites of Spring, he went out to the local store, bought the record, brought it back to his house in Southampton, took off all his clothes, danced naked around the living room. And when I said to him, did you really do that, Ken? He said, well, of course I did, wouldn't you? To which the answer was no, obviously not. Anyway, according to Philip, these are the top five naked dance tracks. Excellent. Number one, the flaming lips race for the prize. Number two, Dex's midnight runners, come on Eileen. Really? Number three, system of a down and bounce. Number four, Talking Heads, Born Under Punches. And of course, The Rite of Spring, if Ken says so. Up with Naked Dancing and Down with Naked Madness,
Starting point is 00:31:52 says Philipp Schwerer. Quite niche, I think, that particular email because I mean, there's one- You did request it, Simon. You did say, what are your suggestions for films to dance naked around the living room too? Yes, I know. But I was thinking songs of a gay abandoned, really. I mean, Come On Eileen is that, I suppose. I don't think Come On Eileen is. I mean, I love Dexys Midnight Runners. I've just been given a book about Dexys, which I love. But Come On Eileen is my least favorite Dexys Midnight Runner song, partly because we've all heard it too many times. Yes, but also I associate Dungarees with that track and not the lack of Dungarees. I don't
Starting point is 00:32:30 want to take my Dungarees off just because Dexys are playing. Do you remember how Kevin and his band were aware in their Dungarees at that point? Inside out. Oh, okay. How very arevist. And I'm not sure I'd want to bounce either with System of a Down. Definitely not. Anyway. But, but Philip, thank you. And if anyone wants to add to our dance naked playlist, then which should exist somewhere but doesn't, feel free to get in touch. Correspondence at kubedomeo.com. Take it away, Mark. Oh, fly me to the moon, of course. Unless you want to postpone it just for fun. No, no, let's do this. Fly me to the moon. Apollo era rom-com-cum conspiracy drama starring Scarlett
Starting point is 00:33:14 Johansson, Channing Tatum, and with plus Bart Woody Harrelson. Directed by TV graduate Greg Boulanti, who made Love, Simon, and written by Rose Gilroy, who's the daughter of Rene Russo and Tony Gilroy. So the film was apparently originally going to be directed by Jason Bateman with Chris Evans as the male lead. Anyway, so Johansson is Kelly Jones. She is an advertising person in the 60s. Her talent is she can sell anything. And a very early scene has her pitching a Mustang ad that she promises will have wives telling their husbands, honey, I really wish you would
Starting point is 00:33:50 buy a Mustang. So Woody Harrelson is then Moe, who is this shady government agent who turns up and says, right, you're the best seller in the world. I need you to sell the moon and to make NASA sexy because they've got a mandate to put a man on the moon after Kennedy said we'll do it you know in this decade. But no one's excited everyone thinks there's better things that you could be doing with the money. So she's sent to Cape Canaveral where Channing Tatum's Cole Davis is the launch captain, he's super skeptical about her mission which includes NASA endorsed watches. Here's a clip. A watch ad? That's your big idea? Ready? Toothpaste? Dang! The energy breakfast string chosen for Apollo astronauts on their trip to the moon.
Starting point is 00:34:37 Moon coupons? My personal favorite? Fruit of the loom, right? The guy's got to wear something under those big suits don't say NASA like fruit of the loom look I am NOT turning this ship into a flying billboard No matter how much you want it to happen and by the way We don't have time to test all this before lift Oh, we don't have to send any of this up into space as long as we say it went. Oh, so you're gonna lie It's called selling. We're not lying to the customer. We're changing the way they think no it's called lying
Starting point is 00:35:04 So is it advertising or is it lying or is it selling? Oh, so you're gonna lie. It's called selling. We're not lying to the customer. We're changing the way they think. No, it's called lying. So is it advertising or is it lying or is it selling? So the difference between selling and lying becomes more pronounced when Mo tells Kelly that the government are scared that something will go wrong with the mission. And they know that there are meant to be live pictures coming back.
Starting point is 00:35:21 And so he says to her, what we want you to do is we want you to fake a moon landing because this is not about the race into space. This is about America beating Russia on TV. She doesn't want to do it. She says, this is ridiculous. I don't want to. But he's got the goods on her shady path. So she has no choice. Even when Channing Tatum's character, who she can't tell about it because you can't tell anybody about it, sort of becomes a potential love interest. Now here's the interesting thing. A friend of mine took issue with this film, a fellow critic, and he said he thought it was actually offensive.
Starting point is 00:35:50 And I said, why? He said, well, firstly, her character is a salesperson who will sell anything, you know, napalm doesn't make any difference. And the film seems to find that sympathetic. And the second thing is it's irresponsible because it suggests to people that the moon landing might have been faked. And I said, but it's irresponsible because it suggests to people that the moon landing might have been faked. And I said, but it's a fiction for me. It begins with her saying,
Starting point is 00:36:10 this is my story. And anyway, people thought Capricorn one was real. So the first thing to say is if you, I mean, people are crazy. If you think the moon landings are fake, or you think 5g gives you cancer, or you think that vaccines aren't safe. You are a tin hat wearing lunatic. Please find yourself another podcast. We don't want you here. We landed on the moon. That's what happened. However, I don't share that reservation. This is a very fine critic, this friend of mine. I think this is kind of a cute comedy that it comes on more like a sort of playful episode of the X-Files.
Starting point is 00:36:46 I mean, the X-Files was always basically a rom-com with aliens anyway. But what the film is about to me is about the difference between things being fake and things being real, which obviously in the current news cycle is a story. Jim Rash has fun as the director who is, who is brought in to shoot the fake and they get to make the joke after he's impossible about the joke about, yeah, we should have got Stanley Kubrick, which if you've seen room 237, you know, all about the stuff about, you know, Stanley Kubrick was brought into fake moon landings, which of course he wasn't because that's nonsense as well. Eye catching design, light and frothy,
Starting point is 00:37:21 no bad thing. And just to be absolutely clear, the film does not suggest in any way, shape or form that the moon landings were faked because they weren't. But what it does do is it plays with the idea that people have it in their heads that the moon landings were faked because people are basically mad and you can sell them any idea at all, including the earth is flat. Donald Trump is currently president of the United States. The Da Vinci code is based on something real, you know, all that sort of nonsense. So it was really interesting to have a conversation with somebody who was cross at a film for not being more cross at a character who's essentially working for the Nixon administration.
Starting point is 00:38:08 Would he hope for some kind of expose and sort of like a clearer statement of the fact that... I think what he wanted was an absolutely clear statement that this isn't a real story, this didn't happen. I mean, NASA are on board with the film. NASA have helped and cooperated with it. So they clearly don't think that's the case. I thought it was kind of fun, breezy rom-com. I mean, I quite like all that. I quite like all that Ooga Booga stuff because I think it's funny. How are you defining Ooga Booga? Well, we didn't land on the moon.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Yes we did. Oh right. Okay. Yeah. And it's always worth going to YouTube and watching Buzz Aldrin hit the guy who was pursuing him, saying it was fake. It was fake after a while. And I'm obviously hitting people is never a good idea. Except in this case, it's never a good idea. But except in this case, it was the one thing that, you know, has obviously dominated that the reason why we all know about Buzz Aldrin is because he went to the moon with Neil Armstrong and Michael Collins. And have people going around telling you that it didn't happen must be the most infuriating thing in the world. But if you've never seen that, that clip, look it up on YouTube, because the best thing is that he's a man of a certain age.
Starting point is 00:39:27 And the guy who's going around shouting, you lied, you lied, you didn't go to the moon. And seeing a man of a certain age, you're thinking, I'm sorry, I went to the moon and back, I've had enough of this. Just lamping him is just, as you say, violence is never justified unless you went to the moon and back and were being followed by some tin hat wearing nitwit. You know, hello to all our Q and on listeners, go find another book. As I said, to be absolutely clear, Fly Me to the Moon is not about that. Fly Me to the Moon is about the fact that people will buy anything if
Starting point is 00:39:57 Scarlett Johansson is trying to sell it to them. The first time I heard about the Buzz Aldrin clip was Professor Brian Cox. Back in the day when Chris Evans was on Radio 2 Breakfast and he had loads of guests on a Friday and they had this thing where all the guests asked each other a question. Phil Collins was on, there were other guests as well, and Phil Collins' question to Professor Brian Cox was whether the moon landings happened. I'm paraphrasing here, apologies prof if I've got this wrong, but he basically referred Phil Collins to that clip where Buzz Aldrin thumps the person who doubts him.
Starting point is 00:40:31 Really? Really? Enough already. Enough already. Very good. Okay, well that sounds quite charming. Yeah, I think you'd enjoy it. I mean I thought it was kind of sweet and charming and obviously I love the design.
Starting point is 00:40:43 I just love everything about the design. Is it Kafkaesque surreal in any part of the book? No, no. No violent deaths. Well, I mean, except for historically violent deaths that occurred during the Apollo project, but that's, you know, we all know about it anyway. So, okay. We've moved on from that. Okay. Very good. And that's called Fly Me to the Moon. Very good. Okay. What else do we have? It should be called Fly Me to the Moon Brackets, which they actually did. Okay, Long Legs. I think you might enjoy this less.
Starting point is 00:41:10 This is a super creepy horror film starring Michael Monroe, who made her genre name with 2014's It Follows. Written and directed by Osgood Perkins, who is the son of Anthony Perkins, who played Norman Bates in Psycho. Osgood Perkins' first toe in the waters of cinema was that he appeared as the young Norman Bates in Psycho 2. He has now developed a very interesting career as a director, Long Legs is his latest film. Here is a clip, which is actually part of the trailer.
Starting point is 00:41:40 I saw a beast rise up out of the sea, with seven heads and ten horns. And on his horns he wore ten crowns. On each head was written a blasphemous name. What aren't you telling me? He'll kill and kill again. I know you're not afraid of a little bit of dark because you are the dark. That's very, very book of revelation.
Starting point is 00:42:17 Well, yes, there is, there is a lot of book of revelation. I do love that because you are the dark. That's very good line. It's very good line. It's very good. So America 90s FBI agent Lee Harker finds herself working a case which appears to be a serial murderer. In each case, an entire family has been slain with one member committing suicide after killing the family. But what if it's actually a murder? What if it's actually somehow enabled by somebody else?
Starting point is 00:42:46 And Lee has semi-psychic abilities. Very early on, there's a scene where they go door to door looking for somebody. And she had just arrived on the street and points to the house and goes, that's it. It's that house. That's the one. She's also got these strange memories that as a young girl, she was visited by a long-legged figure played by Nick Cage, who's basically playing as a cross between the long-legged scissor man from the nursery rhyme, from Tom Suckathum and the tooth fairy from Silence of the Lambs. He calls her nearly birthday girl. Somehow these things, her semi-psychic abilities, somehow they're interconnected, but how?
Starting point is 00:43:24 Here's the thing with long legs. It's genuinely creepy. I mean, I think it's got a real atmosphere of dread. If you think of something like It Comes at Night, which I really liked. But then that's all mixed in with Satanic Revelation from the Book of Revelation. I mean, you know The Omen, which was basically the book, I think The Omen was the film that introduced a modern audience to, Oh, there's a book of revelation. I should have a look at that. Um, if you imagine the Omen was actually, um, an independent feature made by a 24,
Starting point is 00:43:56 you'd get something of the sense of this. Explain what that means. Cause a 24 is just a thing that comes up at the beginning of a film. Yeah, so A24 are these film distributors, producers, and they are sort of at the forefront of what gets horribly referred to as heightened horror. They kind of make weird, creepy films that are not just some guy running around with a knife, but they've got mood and atmosphere. As I said, an elevated horror, that's the phrase, not heightened horror,
Starting point is 00:44:29 elevated horror, which is a complete nonsensical phrase. Actually, it's a weird thing. A24, like you said, you see it at the beginning of a movie, you kind of know what kind of film you're going to get. The kind of film you're going to get is kind of long legs. This opens with a quote from Mark Bowlin, which is, well, you're slim and you're weak, you've got the teeth of the hydro upon you from, you know, from Bang A Gong. And it actually makes very good use of needle drops, which I think you would enjoy very much. He's also got a terrifically unsettling soundscape score that's full of all these kind of creaks and groans. Nick Cage's performance is completely bonkers. I mean it is proper,
Starting point is 00:45:07 full-on Nick Cage mad as a box of frogs. But Michael Monroe is completely deadpan and removed and actually those two things work very well. I mean it's also, it's got some deliberate jokes in it. not jokes as in, you know, quack, quack, oops, nods or anything like that. There are just some scenes that are, that are cut in a way that makes them laugh out loud funny, but deliberately. It's one of the first films with a sort of satanic
Starting point is 00:45:39 conspiracy and a revelation thing in it that actually didn't make me just roll my eyes and go, oh, for heaven's sake, this is, you know, just, this is just, I can't be doing this. Great sporting performance by Blair Underwood, um, Lecia Witt, uh, Lea's mom when she rings home her mom keeps asking her, are you still praying? Um, I hadn't seen any of the directors previous films and I was told by a fellow critic, oh yeah, you should see the other ones cause they're really interesting as well. So I am going to track them down. It's this properly eerie stuff. I really liked it. I
Starting point is 00:46:08 really liked the atmosphere of Dread. I thought Nick Cage was having a great time and it was genuinely properly unsettling in a way which I really enjoyed. Bang-a-Gong is of course in the UK, Get It On and in America it's Bang-a-Gong bracket. Get It On. I didn't know that. It has a different title. Yeah. Well, I don't know. Interesting, really. But yeah, so get it on here and in America, Banga Gong Brackets Get It On. Who knows why. Listen, Dr. Pop, I think you would enjoy this film before it's Dr. Pop-ness. Oh, okay. Well, in which case, will it be a streamer-tastic thing?
Starting point is 00:46:41 Yes, but go and see it in a cinema. I mean, you'll be able to see everything on streaming at some point, but it is a cinema. I mean you'll be able to see, you can see everything on streaming at some point, but it is a cinema release at the moment. What does semi, what did you say about the skills, semi-psychological skills? Yes, that she has sort of psychic skills. Sort of psychic skills. Well, they are psychic, or are they, or are they just in, the FBI agent that she works with says, we're just going to call you ultra-intuitive.
Starting point is 00:47:04 Okay. Which I think is a great phrase. It's just that one there. Yeah. Okay. All right. That's long legs. That does sound very good. And the trailer sounded rather good as well.
Starting point is 00:47:15 And we'll talk more about Nick Cage in take two as well. And Mark, in our final section, we'll be doubtless saying the word bottom and then laughing hilariously because it's a despicable me, I think. Number four after this. What was the last thing that filled you with wonder that took you away from your desk or your car in traffic? Well for us, and I'm going to guess for some of you, that thing is... Anabase! Hi, I'm Nick Friedman. I'm Lee-Alick Murray. And I'm going to guess for some of you, that thing is anime.
Starting point is 00:47:45 Hi, I'm Nick Friedman. I'm Lee-Alick Murray. And I'm Leah Prescott. And welcome to Crunchyroll Presents, the Anime Effect. It's a weekly news show. With the best celebrity guests. And hot takes galore. So join us every Friday wherever you get your podcasts and watch full video episodes on
Starting point is 00:48:02 Crunchyroll or on the Crunchyroll YouTube channel. Hi, I'm Jesse Tyler Ferguson, host of the podcast, Dinners on Me. I take some of my favorite people out to dinner, including, yes, my Modern Family co-stars, like Ed O'Neill... I had friends in Organized Cry. ...Sophia Vergara...
Starting point is 00:48:17 What made you want to be comfortable? ...Julie Bowen... I used to be the crier. ...and Aubrey Anderson-Emmons. I was so down bad for the middle of Miranda when I was like eight....you can listen to Dinners on Me wherever you get your podcasts. Correspondence at kerbinameo.com. If you want to get in touch, Jessica, this is on the subject of films to watch again for the first time, which came up in our question, Schmashens, last week. Dear inconceivable, inconceivable, and as you wish, which tells you exactly where we're going, I'd watch The Princess Bride for the first time again, simply for the unalloyed joy of the experience back in the cinema in
Starting point is 00:49:03 Leicester Square in the 90s. Sheer unadulterated joy. It's also one of my favorite soundtracks. Which yes, which it absolutely is. It's a fantastic Mark Knopfler soundtrack with a song by Willie DeVille, the late Willie DeVille on it as well. I'm not sure if it comes at the beginning or the end. I think it comes at the end. But anyway, it's very-
Starting point is 00:49:26 Well, you know, the thing that Willie DeVille did most famously in my book is that he did quite a lot of the music for William Friedkin's Cruising. And I absolutely love that soundtrack. So yeah, no, the great Willie DeVille. Mandy Patinkin is in Princess Bride, right? Yes. If you have 50 hours free, which I'm sure you do, get your ears around Barbara Streisand's autobiography, self-narrated for audiobook called My Name is Barbara, in which Mandy Patinkin doesn't come out of it
Starting point is 00:50:02 particularly well on Yentl. Well, I like him. I like him. He's the guy who says, my name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die. So you know, you're absolutely like him. Also, there is one bit in Princess Bride, I haven't seen it recently, which I think is problematic where they're playing it for laughs, but where the wicked prince finally tries to have his way with the princess. And I think if they were doing it again now, they would reshoot that scene. But the rest of it is all fantastic.
Starting point is 00:50:34 Anyway, if you've seen it recently, maybe I'm overreacting. Anyway, also Alex in Bristol has sent us an email with a photograph. It's a row of shops in Bristol. On the pavement it says, Birdsong Crafts and Interiors. Okay, just so that you get the picture. Hi both, says Alex. I just wanted to let you know that you've both ruined this word for me. Please see the attached photo, Birdsong Crafts and Antiques. I now automatically read this as effing crafts and interiors. Sebastian Falk's landmark World War I novel Birdsong might as well be called Spit. Again, what can you do? If this was the newsagent's podcast, we would just cuss and swear. But I'm still holding out for family related podcasts. Are they still doing a lot of a cussing and a swearing on the newsagents?
Starting point is 00:51:33 But I wrote a book featuring a called Knife Edge, which had a journalist as the main character. And it's a lot of cussing and a swearing in there because in a newsroom, that's exactly what happens. And I've just finished the second one featuring the same journalists. And there's lots of cussing and swearing in that because that's what journalists do. And if you want proof of that, you listen to the news agents, which I enjoy.
Starting point is 00:51:56 And John's a friend, but you know, uh, if you want proof of the fact that journalists cannot stop themselves swearing, I introduce you to the news agents because every episode has one of those little E for explicit. Have we ever had an E for explicit on one of our pods? I don't think so. I mean, we just, you know, yes, I mean, we religiously birdsong any E. Yes, proudly family, apart from there was one live show a long time ago when I was at Lord's for the cricket and you were somewhere else doing a movie with you and we played out a clip with Melon Farmer in it. And it was a really, really clunky moment because clearly the clip had been selected,
Starting point is 00:52:36 you know, it wasn't just one of those things that slipped out. So that was problematic. No, the deal was that there was a beeped version and an un-beeped version and the wrong version got onto the system. And it wasn't just a melon farmer. It was a melon farmer and a C word. Life from lords. Test match cricket taken to new levels of... New balls, please.
Starting point is 00:53:02 Okay, Alex, thank you very much indeed. Jessica, thank you. Correspondence at KerbenOMAR.com. Okay, bottoms, laughter, Despicable Me, number four, here we go. My family are actively embarrassed by the fact that I find minions as funny as I do. I've got minion socks, I've got minions badges, I've got minions drinking bottles. If I'm down, I cheer myself up by going to YouTube and putting in best Minions clips and I just sit there laughing at them. The
Starting point is 00:53:31 funny thing is I wasn't a particular fan of the first Despicable Me, but by the time we got to the Minions movie, I was in heaven. I just found, Dave Norris from Universal, I think feels the same way as I do. Because when he saw the Minions movie, he said, you're going to love this. Now we have Despicable Me 4. The biggest problem with Despicable Me 4 is that it isn't the Minions movie too, which is what I would like it to be. We've got lots of other stuff going on around the Minions when I basically just want Minions, but is other stuff. So this time, Agru and Lucy have a new baby. They also have a new nemesis in the form of Maxime Lemaille, Will Ferrell, who's got a grudge against Gru. He's out for blood.
Starting point is 00:54:14 Stephen Coogan's, Stephen Coogan's, Steve Coogan's Silas Ram's bottom, turns up and instantly there is a callback to that joke, turns up and tells them that they're going to have to disappear. Here's a clip. All right, now down to business. For your own safety, you'll all be assuming new identities. New identities? Is that really necessary? It's not up for debate. Now, you are a solar panel salesman. Lucy, you're a hairstylist at an upscale salon. A hairstylist? Yes! God! Silas, did you choose that because you knew I cut my
Starting point is 00:54:48 own hair? And then I would totally rock at this. No. Jet Cunningham. Duh, this got a nice ring to it. So that's the stuff which isn't Minions, okay? So it's co-directed by Chris Renaud from a script which is co-written by Mike White. With Pierre Coffin still doing the minions voices, I am right in thinking that you interviewed Pierre Coffin, didn't you? Oh yes, a long time ago. We did the thing about if you get the minions voices and you slow them down to like half speed,
Starting point is 00:55:19 you can hear that they are normal voices talking sort of slightly weird gibberish, but kind of vaguely inspired by other languages. Anyway, so in this one, you've got new supercharged minions. You've also got a new very funny baby, Gru baby, who seems to hate his father, despite the fact that Gru's best attempts to make him love him. If you're a parent, the whole thing about the bad looks that the baby gives his father will make you laugh. But the main thing for me is the minions. When the film started, we were in the Universal screening room, which you know very well, and the Universal logo comes on and then the Illumination logo comes on and I start giggling because the minions and somebody in the screen, are
Starting point is 00:56:05 you going to do that all the way through the film? Yeah, probably that's going to be the case. And then afterwards that same critic, the person who took issue with fly me to the moon said, I heard you laughing all the way through that. And, uh, and then somebody else came up to me and said, you really find the minions funny, don't you? And I realized that the entire screening room had heard me laughing every single minute that the minions were on screen. Did you not think no one else is laughing? Maybe I should turn it out of it. No, because other people were laughing, but other people were laughing at other
Starting point is 00:56:34 things, you know, other jokes that didn't involve them. Um, and I just, I mean, the funny thing is it's just, it's become Pavlovian with me now. I just see the minions and I start laughing. So I enjoyed this very much. I mean, this does bring us back to you know, we start with a review of hundreds of beavers and I said I do find slapstick funny. You know, when we were in in Finland, I sat there with a packed audience of 900 people watching Neil Brand
Starting point is 00:57:00 play live piano accompaniment to a series of short films, early silent shorts by Laurel and Hardy, Buster Keaton, Harold Lloyd. Non-verbal slapstick. And when I say non-verbal, I mean non-dialogue. I mean the minions, all that stuff. I find that funny. I find gibberish funny. I mean, I spout enough of it. So whatever else is going on, I will laugh at minions or more importantly with Minions. I enjoyed this very much, but I am aware that I no longer have a critical faculty with it. It was a weird thing when I was on, what did you call it? Elmo Musk's hellscape when it was Twitter. I got literally abusive stuff from people, you and your minions. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:48 And it was just like, I just baffled me. I know my kids said it's the most dad dancing thing you can possibly do to be somebody of your age who finds the minions as funny as you do, but they just tickle me and I, I just lose all. me and I just lose all. Okay, so listen. This is now a visual joke. Okay, so if you are- Explain what's going on. I discovered this week a knitted Mark and Simon, which we were sent many years ago. And we look like Ninja Turtles, actually. That's you. Where did they come from? So you have to picture this. Simon and I looking at each other on a screen and
Starting point is 00:58:35 all I can see now, these two actually scary looking, Hey, top of the pops, top of the pops, exorcist, exorcist, top of the pops, top of the pops. Anyway, we should put some of that, let's put some of that on whatever social media we still do because they're quite funny. What I like about that was the fact that you did that because you'd basically got bored with me saying how funny I find minions. No, I waited. I waited until the end when you'd run out of minion stuff.
Starting point is 00:59:03 I'd done a rallentando, hadn't I? I was slowing up towards the big finish and then you just produced the knitted Mark and Simons. Wow. I think there's a whole new, if anyone from Pixar is listening or any animation studio, I think there's mileage there to be had in knitted Mark and Simon. think there's mileage there to be had in knitted Mark and Simon. Just sort of telling stories, going to see films, going on holiday, drinking Japanese whiskey, that kind of thing. I've laughed a lot during this take one. I don't know why, but I found it very funny.
Starting point is 00:59:36 Well, that's the end of take one, so you better stop. It's been a Sony Music Entertainment production. This week's team, Lily, Gully, Vicky, Zachy, Matty and Bethy. Producer was Jem, the redactor Simon Poole, though he couldn't be bothered to turn up this week. team, Lily, Gully, Vicky, Zachy, Matty and Bethy. Producer was Jem, the redactor Simon Poole, though he couldn't be bothered to turn up this week. Mark, what is your film of the week? Long Legs, because you are the dark. I know where you live. Thank you very much. Take two has landed alongside this particular take one for the Vanguard. Thank you for listening. Correspondence at comodameo.com.
Starting point is 01:00:03 I'm behind your pins. I'm behind, I'm in the Vanguard. Thank you for listening. Correspondence at Curb Out of Mayo.com. I'm behind your pins. I'm behind. I'm in the pin.

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