Kermode & Mayo’s Take - Minions: The Rise of Gru, Nitram, and Tigers

Episode Date: July 1, 2022

Mark reviews ‘Minions: Rise of Gru’, ‘Nitram’ - about a young man who develops an unexpected friendship with an older and isolated heiress, and ‘Tigers’ - about a young Swedish football pl...ayer who is sent to play in Italy’s most prestigious club.  Plus, What’s on World, the Box office chart and more.  You can contact the show by emailing correspondence@kermodeandmayo.com or find us on our social channels.  Show timings: 17:52 Tigers Review 26:49 Box Office Top 10 40:59 Nitram Review 47:59 The Laughter Lift 50:05 Minions Review 01:00:53 What’s On World  A Somethin’ Else & Sony Music Entertainment production.  Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  Exclusive! Grab the NordVPN deal ➼ https://nordvpn.com/take Try it risk-free now with a 30-daycare money-back guarantee! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Something else. Right, okay. So before we start, is this an apologetic tone, I think so. A note to say we were hoping to bring new Christian bail in today's podcast for Thor, Love and Thunder. However, he has, unfortunately, had to cancel all of his press interviews at very, very short notice. In fact, a few hours before we were due to record it. Anyway, that was all happening just before this podcast was due to drop. As indeed, it has now dropped because you're listening to it.
Starting point is 00:00:46 For all those reasons, it leaves us without a guest this week. However, who needs guests when you've got us? You're not ready. I'm just checking my look. Why are you just checking your look? I'm just checking that I look all'm just checking my look. Why are you just checking your look? I'm just checking that I look alright. You look like you. Yeah, no, okay, fine, but that's not always good enough, is it?
Starting point is 00:01:12 I want to be the best me I can be. And are you the best you today? No, I'm about 78%. I think we're all running on that. And we start it. I think, yeah, we definitely start it. We have started it, okay. First of all, child two demanded that we do a kind of a preamble thing like this, and
Starting point is 00:01:28 she demanded it from you as well as from me. Not necessarily that. She demanded to know what it was going to be about. We were sitting around because I went to your house again last night and said, second sleep over. And you're like the lady in the van. I'm not going anywhere. You're like, I'm upstairs. I've literally moved into your front drive and I'm not going anywhere. You're like, I'm upstairs. I've literally moved into your
Starting point is 00:01:46 front drive and I'm not going anywhere. Exactly. And yes, and she said, I want to know what you're going to talk about. As if this was planned, he said, the only thing is you could probably predict a little bit about it, because if we sound a little bit early morning and Husky, it's because it is slightly early morning, we are a little bit husky, because we're doing things slightly out of sync this week, even though you're receiving this podcast in exactly the same way. Yeah. We're doing it slightly early, because child 3 is getting graduated, so we have to go and attend in robes.
Starting point is 00:02:18 I think the phrase is graduating. Not getting graduated. It's getting graduated. So we watch the graduate. And obviously that's just the traditional thing. So everything is a little bit out of sequence. It's like three in the morning, but we're still also with Tide because we've been at festivals. Well, yes, you've been at festivals and I went to the Hyde Park. Yes, you were. Well, that was a festival as well. That was you saw it. It's kind of just like
Starting point is 00:02:44 a gig in the open air, really. Yeah. But it was Robert Plan, Alison Kraus, and then the Eagles. So I saw Robert Plan, Alison Kraus at Glastonbury, and I also saw the Maca gig, which now, as you've seen, everyone's pointed out, they're all these articles, is it the greatest gig of all time? Do you hate headlines like that? To which the answer is probably not. But, you know, at the time, it was still an amazing experience. I mean, I would argue that the greatest gig of all time was Reckless Eric in Brighton, because it was a very small room, and I love Reckless Eric. But, you know, hey, that's obviously person, or Tom Robinson at Glasston. I mean, I loved
Starting point is 00:03:17 Mac, and it was fantastic. But Tom Robinson, you know, in the Avalon thing, was, I stood there and wept through the whole set, pathetic. But also, it's just like the movies, you know, in the Avalon thing, I stood there and wept through the whole set, pathetic. But also, it's just like the movies, you get out of it what you bring to it. Exactly. And depending on where you are, who you're with, what your state of mind is, have you eaten pizza, have you gone to the toilet, all these things are very, very important. Because if you halfway through your mac and you think, I really need to go and try hard, then that that's gonna spoil.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Hey, Jude, isn't it? Because you think him, I need to just, but I know it's gonna take him out. That's not gonna happen. Yeah. Just, I just wanna mention one thing. Can I just say that I was at, I was at a gastronomy because I was helping Julian Temple
Starting point is 00:04:01 program the Synoromageddon field, which is way off in the corner. And it's a field with all these old vintage and mutated cars. It's like an old drive-in. We show films, and that was great. And that was really good. Riz Ahmed was there, introduced a longer buy, the short film which you want to an Oscar.
Starting point is 00:04:18 And we show things like Titan, which I know you're a huge fan of Titan, but you're having sex with a car. I was watching it in an old mutated vintage car. Oh, that's awesome. In a field. Yes. In a Ramagadhan, it was designed for you.
Starting point is 00:04:32 I'd like to dedicate this program to, I don't think we've given them a section of the church, but when I was at a high park, a huge stage for the Eagles and the night before was for the stones and so on and Elton John and Just off to one side There's a little booth and that's where the signers are who take it There's like two or three of them and they sign each song and then it's so anybody who wants to Yes, they're watching they get all the lyrics signed and it was an incredible performance because they're like half They're like dancing like they're in a dance troupe and gerating and grooving whilst also signing into the camera. Wow. We just watched it would just transfixed by this incredible, it's like
Starting point is 00:05:14 performance art. So they're kind of they're not in the Eagles but they're kind of for this moment. You're one of the band. Anyway, so I have to say that there was at the moment at the McCartney gig, when having brought on Dave Grohl, your friend Dave Grohl, who you had interviewed recently because of a studio 6666, and then they said, now we're going to bring on somebody else, and they brought on Bruce. I know. And I did think you should have been there because you're, I mean, I can take or leave Bruce
Starting point is 00:05:40 Springsteen, but you're a huge fan, right? I would have loved to have been there. Yes. And as many people have pointed out, Dave Grohl and Bruce Springsteen, but you're a huge fan, right? I would have loved to have been there. Yes, and as many people have pointed out, Dave Grill and Bruce Springsteen don't get on a plane for any of the world, for anybody, but Mac is eight years. I think that's very good. Anyway, so Memo to Child 2, we're gonna talk about gigs.
Starting point is 00:05:57 There you go, that's in every way. Is that enough rambling stuff? I think so. Later on, by the way, when we talk about movies and so on, what are you gonna be looking at? We're going to be, oh sorry, is this a scripted bit? Well, it's just sort of naturally woven into. I mean, I can tell you what we're going to be looking at. There's a film called Tigers that we're going to be looking at.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Is this, am I meant to do this? Like this role? I'm meant to be reading it off a script at this point. Well, it's page seven. Is it? Okay, hang on. If you want to, HD. I'm going to be reviewing Minions 2, the Rise of Groo, Nitram and Tigers. And we'll have the Box Office Top 10, but because we're recording on a Tuesday, it'll be an American Box Office Top 10,
Starting point is 00:06:31 which is just as fabulous. And as if that wasn't enough... On Monday, there'll be another take-2 in which we'll be expanding your viewing in our feature One Frame Back, which gives you some further watching related to one of the week's releases. In this case, it's Steve Carell,
Starting point is 00:06:50 Moves of performances of in the context of Minions 2, The Rise of Groo, in which he plays Fologneous Groo. So we're going to be talking about a new Minions film, which is we haven't done the joke for a long time and I'm just delighted that that's back. Well, I hope it is back. Actually, wait for your review. Take it all,. You decide this is our word of mouth on a podcast feature. Mark will be taking a look at your suggestion, which is hustle this week, which is on Netflix, sending Adam Salamble. Send your suggestions for great cinema, adjacent stuff that we might have missed, but you think we should be talking about. Correspondence at COVIDAmail.com. We built up quite a draw full of must-see reviews of great stuff to watch on streaming services. So sign up to ExtraTakes on Apple podcasts to dig into extra stuff to make you sound really, really clever in front of your friends, something I have never mastered.
Starting point is 00:07:36 If you prefer a different platform, you can head to extratakes.com. If you think you do sound clever, well, it's just a pretence. It's just an affectation. But it's a good affectation. You pull it off because, you think, well, yeah, if I ever meet people and they say, would you work with Simon Mayer? One of the things that you think, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:52 sincere, likable, solid, and intelligent. Deluded. Well, no, but that's, you present, I mean, you know, you might be an idiot, but you present as intelligent. Okay, well, that's a good thing. You're like the anti-John Ronson. Oh, but I'm pro-John Ronson. No, no, because you present as intelligent,
Starting point is 00:08:13 but actually you're a fool. Yes. Where John Ronson presents as a sort of foolish character, but in fact he's fiercely intelligent, and that's how he gets away with it. Today's show is presented by me. I'm not sure I want to be the opposite to John Ronson. No, I don't mean it.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Well, the more I think about the analogy, it doesn't quite work. Well, so when people do a cartoon of John Ronson, it ends up looking like me. Small round glasses. We're stuck. Sticky up hair. When people do a cartoon of John Ronson,
Starting point is 00:08:39 it ends up looking like me. We need to get John on the show. John should definitely be on the show. An email from Peter Fink Jensen, listening to your most recent podcast, I was very surprised to fall upon a joke which centered around Danish cricket. Something I certainly did not expect when I got up in the morning. As a native of Copenhagen or Copenhagen, as you say, if you're there, is that right? Yeah, I would, because you don't pronounce the G. So it's Copenhagen. Copenhagen. I would first like to congratulate Simon on the grandson, Oscar. Thank you very much. I mean, I have people congratulate you, which is great. I haven't really, not really responsible,
Starting point is 00:09:20 but anyway, well done, Simon. Well done. Secondly, I feel obliged to inform, have I shown you the photographs by the way? You have, I've got 100. 100 weight. I have many of them on my phone. Secondly, I feel obliged to inform you about the current landscape of Danish cricket. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:37 This is what makes this podcast class. Is there any other podcast that, even Test Match Special? They didn't talk about that. They didn't do Danish cricket. Danish cricket. Is it, is Danish cricket quantifiably different? Well, let's find out.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Okay. As you rightly assert, cricket is a very minor sport in Denmark, but it does have about 40 active clubs. However, the sport is not broadcast anywhere and hardly ever mentioned in the news. If you are ever to perform that joke, so that the joke was about me being asked, I thought I was ringing the hospital to find out news of the imminent grandson. And they accidentally put me through to the local cricket club. And then I said the first four are out and the first one was a duck.
Starting point is 00:10:20 Okay, so that kind of, so that was the setup. But undermined by the fact that there isn't a lot of Danish cricket. Anyway, Peter Fink Jensen says, if you're ever to perform that joke in a Danish setting, I would advise that you refer instead to the sport, runtball, which is roundball, which is a simplified version of baseball played mostly by children and well known by all. However, as in baseball, there are only three outs in each down and no ducks. And with a few baseball, there are only three outs in each down and no ducks. And with a few tweaks, the joke could well work. I don't think so. I hope that was just the information you were looking for. Well, actually, yes, that's fine. Let's give that to Simon
Starting point is 00:10:57 Paul and ask him to construct it into a well-crafted joke. Now, actually, by the end of the show, the thing is, first of all, he can't be bothered to turn up in the morning. No, he's not here. This is the second week in which he didn't write, the Danish cricket joke was actually written by, well, my brother told me that joke. He sent it to me and I included it in Simon's script.
Starting point is 00:11:15 So we should point out there for the second week running, Paul's not here and he's excuses that he lives in little blithering to know something, to which my answer is, yeah, yeah, get up earlier. Yeah. Camp. Cue outside.
Starting point is 00:11:29 That thing. Yeah. Attent. Anyway, hello to all our Danish listeners, because I remember when I was there a couple of times ago, bumping into someone who listened to this podcast. Well, it was the other podcast, but it's the same, you know what I mean. So he was a fan of the show. And when I was in Amsterdam, I was served in a whiskey bar in Amsterdam.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Yes. By gentleman who said, love the podcast. Excellent. Very good news. We should go on a tour. Um, Dr. and Professor David Sanderson, the last time I wrote to you was in 2021 from Sydney. And it was about my grossly unremarkable testicles.
Starting point is 00:12:04 But anyway, it's hard to top that one, but here goes. Hearing you both talking about what I don't, do you remember that? I do remember. I do remember. Yes. Why was he telling us that? It was, it was somehow it was in relation to the phrase grossly, grossly unremarkable because it was to do with that just meant normal. It meant that they were fine, that they had to have anything wrong with it. Nothing wrong with it. Grossly unremarkable was a good thing.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Was that our kind of off-stead conversation about satisfactory? Yes. I think that might have been the thing that some of her that took us to is never reached. Anyway, David continues. Hearing you both talking about what the British say and what they really mean in relation to offers to visit, it reminded me of incidents some years back while teaching on a master's course in the UK on international development. Just to recap, this was because we said when British people say you must come round, they mean don't. Yes. Anyway, at that time, I had about 40 students from a dozen countries from Africa, Europe, Asia and North America.
Starting point is 00:13:06 I'd recently seen an Anglo-EU translation guide, a table of 15 statements with three columns headed, what the British say, what the British mean and what others understand. I thought it was rather human, so I thought I'd share it with the students. So give you, oh, I'll give you an example. As I did so, reading each one and smiling away and hoping all would join in on how funny and odd the Brits are, the room became silent. While the few British students were looking
Starting point is 00:13:31 in a knowing way, sharing the insider's club, the look on the faces of the foreign students was one of utter confusion and total surprise. The African and Asian students in particular look pretty betrayed. I tried to make amends by genuinely inviting the foreign students over to eat, but the guide translation, it's not an invitation, I'm just being polite. I'm surprisingly no one came.
Starting point is 00:13:51 And this is how I didn't share it again. So here's, I've just highlighted some of them from the full list. What the British say, that's a very brave proposal. What the British mean, you are insane. What others understand, he thinks I have courage. When the British say very interesting, what they mean is that's clearly nonsense. What others understand is they are impressed. When the British say, I'm sure it's my fault. What the British mean is it's your fault. And what others think, what do they think it was their fault? And finally, when the British say is, it's your fault. And what others think, what do they think it was, they have fault? And finally, when the British say,
Starting point is 00:14:29 you must come for dinner, what the British mean is, it's not an invitation, I'm just being polite. And but others understand it as, I will get an invitation soon, and so on. So Dr. Professor David Sunderson, thank you for that. And it's so clearly true. Last week, the fantastic Ron Atkinson was here, Thank you for that very clearly true last week The fantastic Ron Atkinson was here talking about there was man versus be I was very sorry not to be in the room
Starting point is 00:14:52 Due to the strike. Yes, you would you were beaming down the line was beaming down the line Although the line beamed rather well. I thought the new forest Wi-Fi did brilliantly considering everything considering everything Yes, Jack how he was talking about man versus, which is on Netflix 10, lots of 10 minute episodes apart from the first one, which I'll just slow down. Thought Man vs. B was very good, kept to the principle of keep it simple, stupid, did not outstates, welcome and thought the daughter subplot was very sweet. Nick Turk says, sat down to watch the first episode of Man vs. B this morning and just finished the final one after, against Mark's advice, watching the whole thing in one go.
Starting point is 00:15:29 And you know what, I really rather enjoyed it for what it was. In a market weighed down with so many big budget borrathons and over long ego massaging vanity projects, it was just a short blast of light-hearted buffoonery, though whilst not leaving me in hysterics, certainly raised a right smile and many a chuckle. Yes, it was predictable, but such is the nature of this style of comedy. It's briefened to the point and it's set up with its set up and then does exactly what you expect to greater and greater levels of daftness before wrapping things up neatly with a twist and throwing in a similarly predictable punchline. Rowan does a great job as always through the supporting cast of A waffer thin
Starting point is 00:16:06 and underused Julian Reintutt, delivers a truly appalling foreign accent, but with the world in the current state, in its, with the world in the current state, its inner apologies, man versus be is a perfect antidote to all the other cynical cash grabs clogging up our airwaves. No, it's not a grade, but it's definitely worth a B. And I think the essence of that is entirely right, it's not a grade, but it's definitely worth a B. And I think the essence
Starting point is 00:16:26 of that is entirely right, it's not like anything else. There is nothing else like that. And that is why Ron is such, you know, he's got this market to himself. Yeah, yeah. Also, on the subject of, he said, you know, I think slightly predictable, that was said, it's predictable, that's fine. One of the things about slapstick comedy is that that's in many ways the point, Roman was talking about Jacques Taty and Monsieur Uloz-Olliday, in which he said, there are jokes that you can see coming
Starting point is 00:16:55 from many miles away. You can, you know, he said you can hear them going over the points on the track. And that's the point of the joke, is that you could, is that the setup is 99% of the gag. You see that, Blamond, you know that's the point of the joke is that the set up is 99% of the gag. You see that blamong? You know that's going to be a trope in someone's face. If you want to get in touch, we would love to hear from you correspondents at covid-maid.com. Tell
Starting point is 00:17:15 us something that's out tonight. It's interesting. I do like I just have one other little bit of personal stuff, which is if you're hearing strange noises, it's because I'm taped up, I'm covered in surgical tape around here and all of the, because I've got a neck shoulder thing. And I went to see a physiotherapist who stuck tape, well, I mean, in order to change my posture
Starting point is 00:17:37 and it's kind of creaking and doing that, but I'm stuck together with cello tape. So if you hear strange noises, that's why you're hearing. Okay, all right. Thank you. We'll put it through a strapped filter. And hopefully it'll come out fine.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Okay, so Tigers, which is a film by Ronnisondal, which was the Swedish entry for best international feature at the 94th Academy Awards. Based on a memoir, which I don't know whether you're aware of the memoir, wasn't by Martin Bankson, true life story of a Swedish teenager who is signed to train a professional footballer for the Italian club in Tamilan. It's all he's dreamed of since he was a kid when he is still a kid he's a teenager. But the reality of being taken away from home put into this unfamiliar environment
Starting point is 00:18:23 in which he's in a house with a bunch of other young people who were similarly, you know, been signed up for potential football stardom. It's a fiercely competitive environment. There is a certain amount of hostility and here is a clip with an early encounter on a coach with a teammate who tells it like it is. Here's a clip. Do you live at the house too? Yeah, but I've been away for a couple of days on National Duty. I'm American. You're from Sweden.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Guess you're expensive though. Why? Because everybody hates it already. So what you're hearing there after he's told everyone hates you already is Martin played by Eric Enger doing press ups on his fists. I can do those, can you? And then a close up on an egg boiling in a pan, and the camera closes in on the pan, and you see the bubbles, you see the egg jittering around in the bubbles,
Starting point is 00:19:33 and then you see him, you see the egg shell cracking and being pulled away, crumbling away, and underneath is this sort of soft, you know, egg. And in a way... is there a metaphor? Well, it is the thing. When I first saw the film, that didn't immediately jump out at me as being quiet as, but watching it again as a clip is like, well, actually, that's the whole movie right there. The pressure cooker environment, this boiling atmosphere, something, and then the outer shell cracking, revealing this potentially vulnerable in
Starting point is 00:20:05 herself, because what happens is that the pressure that the young man is under takes a huge toll on him. And over the course of the year, the film is divided into seasons. We see him struggle and we see the wheels start to come off, but most importantly, we see the industry into which he has been inducted, basically failing to do anything about the fact that he is dealing with complex mental health issues that they're just not paying any attention to. And I didn't know the story before, and as you know what I know about sport wouldn't fill the back of a postage stamp.
Starting point is 00:20:40 But for me, what this is, is it's a film about mental health issues and also about somebody who is physically talented, incredibly talented, but young and vulnerable, being put in a pressure cooker environment in which there is no pastoral care for the pressure that's causing for them mentally and whilst their body is physically training for the extreme exertion of what they're doing, what's being left behind is the fact that there's this huge amount of pressure on them. And I thought it was terrific because, as I said, I didn't know the story, I didn't know where the story was going at all, I was told it's a football film, which as you know, outside of next goal wins, you know,
Starting point is 00:21:25 my knowledge of football films is fairly small, but it's got a great score by Jonas Kohlstrop, who's a very good composer, very well played and very engaging because it takes you right into his world. You are right in that pressure cooker environment and you see the world through his eyes. And it's a hostile place, it's a difficult place, it's a place which is very cold and very, well obviously competitive because by the nature of the sport,
Starting point is 00:21:54 it's going to be competitive. But I, yeah, and I thought it was very impressive. It's in cinemas and it's in cinemas partly because of the BFI, giving it national lottery funding to bring it to younger audiences in the UK. And I think it's really well worth seeing, because I think it's got a very important message about mental health care.
Starting point is 00:22:11 Okay. And that's Tigers. Still to come on this podcast. Oh, which page are we on? 8-11. I'm going to do the whole thing. You do me. Still me.
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Starting point is 00:23:20 There's no risk with Nord's 30-day money back guarantee. The link is in the podcast episode description box. Hi, esteem podcast listeners, Simon Mayo. I'm Mark Kermot here. I'm excited to let you know that the new season of the Crown and the Crown, the official podcast, returns on 16th November to accompany the sixth and final season of the Netflix epic Royal Drama series. Very exciting, especially because SuperSub and Friend of the Show, Edith Bowman, hosts this one.
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Starting point is 00:25:25 Joy Amy has sent us this email. L-T-L is what she is. I would like to thank you for your help in the birthing of my daughter. This is a birthing email. Okay. Which is close to your heart, since... Yes, well, because you recently grandparented it. I have, and I have a best of fun. I love you. And... Grandparent.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Do. Correct. I'd be sitting here thinking... See, but the trouble with that terrible record is that it... Which featured the great Herbie Flowers on bass, by the way. But anyway, the trouble with that record is that that is the perception for a generation about a grandeur, which is like some kind of dodgery old
Starting point is 00:26:11 full, even though Clive Dunn was like 30 years or something. He was 20 years, he made that record. So, you know, so I say a pox on that record. That's what I'm saying. Despite Herbie Flowers being on it. Despite Herbie being on it, yes. Joy Amy says, last Friday, I went into hospital for an elective C-section. I was very excited to meet our daughter, but was also very scared for entirely understandable reasons. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:26:33 I am one of those people who has a lot of faith in doctors and nursing staff, but I'm absolutely terrified of being in hospital. We had to wait a little longer than expected for the operating theatre to be available, and I was starting to get a little panicked about the whole getting cut out of in hospital. We had to wait a little longer than expected for the operating theatre to be available, and I was starting to get a little panicked about the whole getting cut open, shebang. Again, boring, entirely understandable reasons. We're with you. The midwife tried to comfort me by suggesting I listened to something that makes me happy. I was going to stick on some chas and' Dave because who could be anything but cheery with Cockony Rock playing in the background?
Starting point is 00:27:10 But then I remember, hallelujah, it's Friday and instead of grooving to Gurcher, I popped on Kermana Mayo's take and didn't it work a treat? Didn't it? Not only that, I don't think it's rhetorical, I think. Oh, sorry. And didn't it? It's not a question mark. It's an exclamation mark. And didn't it work a treat?
Starting point is 00:27:30 When is a question, not a question, when it's a statement of fact? And not only that, but the wonderful Tom Hanks was on there too. And I started to feel like everything was going to be all right. This too shall pass, and so on. After a great job by the surgical staff, Evelyn Avery was airlifted to freedom at 1110am. airlifted to freedom is a great phrase for what happens in a C section.
Starting point is 00:27:50 To the dulcet sounds of Paul Simon singing, you can call me Al, although my husband said a C section should be more like the claw machine in toy story. Give the parents a little joystick and see if they can grab the baby. Give the parents a little joystick and see if they can grab the baby. What a terrifying thought that would be because those cranes are always kind of engineered so that they never really hold on to anything. Anyway, thank you for calming me down and reducing my blood pressure before surgery. Evie will definitely be brought up as a member of the congregation and newborns nuke perhaps. Anyway, so Evie Avery, welcome and you are in newborns' nook.
Starting point is 00:28:27 I don't know how long you stay there, probably just for a few weeks, and then we can move you on to... Kindergarten. The early Kindergarten. Kindergarten corner. Yeah. Joy Amy and EVAvery send in that email. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:28:42 I'm glad we were of help. And if we're better than Chas and Dave, then we've at least achieved something. Imagine entering this life as you're airlifted to freedom with Paul Simon singing, you can call me out. What a fantastic way to arrive. Very good. Now, Bogg's office, top 10, because we're recording earlier this week, because of child three of getting graduated. I love the fact that this whole program is now basically arranged and your family. Well, I think the last, there is an element to that. There is an element to that. But I couldn't, I couldn't not be at the graduation.
Starting point is 00:29:15 No, of course you couldn't. No, and also because graduating from a very good university. prestigious university. A prestigious university. Everyone says now that X-Doo is like, tippity top hang dang duty. It really, is like tip tip of the top hang dang duty. It really it's the top of the tree. Yeah. Anyway, so what we so there isn't a
Starting point is 00:29:30 a UK box office top 10 as we speak, but there is a US weekend box office top 10. So we're using this as an opportunity to do the American top 10, which overlaps considerably. All right, well, but before we get there, good luck to you, Leo Grant, which isn't in the 10, but I just wanted to mention this because we got this email from Dr. Annie Farrell, member institute of psychosexual medicine, access sexual health, Liverpool University Hospital's NHS Foundation Trust, clinical lead,
Starting point is 00:30:02 access sexual problem service, Liverpool. Okay, am I about to be told off? No, okay, if I good, okay, just to trust, clinical lead, access sexual problem service, Liverpool. Okay. Am I about to be told off? No. Okay. Fine. Good. Okay. I went to, sorry, you did, you did the laugh, which is often the, and here is somebody that knows what they're talking about. Well, they certainly do know what they're talking about. As you can tell, I went to see good luck to you, Leo Grant, with one of my best friends on Saturday. We had a great evening. It had us laughing out loud and gasping in horror. This film gets just about everything right, in my opinion, especially the ending which I loved.
Starting point is 00:30:29 As my friend said, why don't they just teach this all in schools? Why indeed, if we only all had little bits of Leo in our lives, it would put me out of a job, says Annie, I would highly recommend this film. There you go. So I mean, there you go. There's a review from the... Somebody who actually knows what they're talking about. Psychosexual go. So I mean, there are good reviews from somebody who actually knows what they're talking about. Psychosexual medicine. I didn't even know that that was a thing, but Dr. Annie Freller is fantastic on that. Anyway, it's not it's not in the 10, but if you'll mention it anyway. Number 10 is the bad guys. I think we've covered this in some detail. Number nine is Bob's Burgers movie, which is so delightful.
Starting point is 00:31:05 And the biggest thumbs up I can give it is that I had never heard of the Bob's Burgers phenomenon at all. I knew nothing about it. I went into the movie thinking it was a kid's cartoon. And then, you know, five minutes in, found myself laughing like a drain and really, really enjoyed the film.
Starting point is 00:31:19 And it's the Bob's Burgers movie. The Bob's Burgers movie. Because it's Bob's Burgers is the thing. So it's the Bob's Burgers movie. The Bob's Burgers movie. Because it's Bob's Burgers is the thing. So it's the Bob's Burgers movie. Because you know how some bands, most bands are the something, but there are other bands like editors, which aren't.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Who's not? They're just editors. Franz Ferdinand are obviously not obviously not necessarily. But did you know Eagles are just Eagles? They aren't the Eagles. They're just Eagles. Did you really?
Starting point is 00:31:43 Yeah. On the subject of the Eagles, the funniest sex pistol's joke, Eves, is something that Sid Vicious said on stage during the disastrous American tour when everything was all falling apart. And it's in, I think it's in Great Rock and Roll Swindle which he's on stage and he's going,
Starting point is 00:32:00 yeah, no one's better than us. We're the best band in the world. No one's better than us. Set the Eagles. The Eagles are better than us. We're the best band in the world, no one's better than us. Set the Eagles, the Eagles are better than us. That's pretty. It's actually very, very, very good joke. Bob Spurger's at nine, everything everywhere, all at once at eight.
Starting point is 00:32:13 The Multiverse movie that we didn't know we needed and suddenly proved how almost redundant all other Multiverse movies are. Number seven, Jug, Jugger J.O. Which I haven't seen, it's a Hindi language film. If anyone has seen it, can give us a heads up on it, please let us know. Number six, this is just right, this is a US chart, Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness. It's a same Ramy film, and I liked it enough until I saw everything everywhere all at once and went, oh, but that's what a Multiverse
Starting point is 00:32:43 movie should be doing. In America, US number five, light year. Dear, this is cat ashworth. I went into light year, a mix of extremely nervous and excited. I was hoping that it would take me back to being nine years old and going to see the first toy story film with my cousins. Unfortunately, it wasn't to be. Socks just felt like a rehash of Baymax, the finger touching was also reminiscent of Big
Starting point is 00:33:07 Hero 6 Fist Bump, and Tycoa TT was Tycoa TT. He does that really well, though, but that is what he does. Naturally, the animation was beautiful, not angry, just somewhat disappointed. And there in a nutshell is exactly the thing, not angry, just disappointed because it's just not anything like as good as it should be. David Braunold, dear infinity and beyond, heritage listener, first time emailer speaking from AniCetist Alcove, love the new show Chaps. Last weekend with the Better Half Away at an international conference, I searched for an
Starting point is 00:33:42 activity to keep my two Rugrats happy, ages four and seven. I saw that the new Lightyear movie was showing in our local multiplex. I agree with Mark that the film has no soul and that the only link to the other Toy Story films is the shared name of the central character. In fact, I didn't see this as a Toy Story film at all, but as a space cartoon film for the family to enjoy.
Starting point is 00:34:02 But this, unfortunately, is where picks are made another mistake, was it's all fun and games to make a film about space and time travel. It defeats the purpose when one's seven-year-old tugs on your arm after 15 minutes of the film and asks, daddy, why is everyone else getting old when Buzz stays young? I don't understand it. Then something somewhere has been overlooked, in my opinion, when I booked tickets to light year, I was expecting an easy couple of hours where the children will be entertained
Starting point is 00:34:29 and not have to do what I did after this cinema experience, which is to explain time relativity to a seven-year-old. And the possibility of time travel, according to theoretical physics, the four-year-old, however, shouted, oh my goodness, when Buzz went into light speed and was very happy. Hi, to Jason, down with the Nazis,
Starting point is 00:34:49 out with Bluehead feminists. Thank you, Daniel. I love the idea of being able to shout, oh my goodness, when something happens, extraordinary happens in a film. That is a wonderful thing. Yes, if a four-year-old can at least start by saying that. I told you, one of the first films my sister was taken to see by my dad, I think it was, was Mary Poppins.
Starting point is 00:35:10 And she sat all the way through Mary Poppins until it got to the bit when they were up on the rooftop and the fireworks are going off. And she stood up in her chair and went, pretty! That's pretty good review. Right, the American chart number four, the black phone. Catherine Croquet. I liked. The black phone was a good enjoyable horror film. The best bit though was the collective gas,
Starting point is 00:35:34 but one of the jump scares in the cinema followed by a large laugh of relief. In the theatre, being in the cinema is just great. Tom Bolton says, not since the Babadook, do I remember being as scared as I was during the Black Phone, it's really admirable piece of work. Preston K.M. says, I was immediately engaged from the opening moments, but I personally felt there was a lot that wasn't tied together in the
Starting point is 00:35:55 end in a satisfying way. It had a nice emotional through line, but a lot of the supernatural elements felt too ambiguous to me. Not that I needed everything tied up neatly, but this could have been a classic. If it came together more satisfyingly, I will see anything Derek's and does. He is one of the best modern horror directors. The black phone is definitely worth seeing in theaters. It's low on jump scares, but the handful of them are very effective. It was fun seeing it with a late night crowd. Yeah, I mean, I thought it was really well done. I do like Scott Derrickson as a director, and I thought he did a very good job in dramatizing this. So this is based on a story by Joe Hill.
Starting point is 00:36:33 You know, Joe Hill is Stephen King's son. And so the kind of... I mean, that's always complicated, because there are things in this that remind me of Stephen King, but I always shy away from saying, they remind you of Stephen King because but I always shy away from saying, they remind you of Stephen King because you are Stephen King's son. Joe Hill is a very good writer in his own right.
Starting point is 00:36:51 Number three is Jurassic World Dominion. Number two is Elvis. Now, Sarah B says, Sore Elvis last night went in skeptical, came out thinking Austin's performance was flawless. He spent today painting to the sun recordings album, followed by watching King Creole. Both very beautiful, as was the kid who played Young Elvis. It was absolutely right.
Starting point is 00:37:14 He was. It will stay with me for a long time. Rob Jones says, Mark was spot on. Our other film yesterday was great. 160 minutes seemed more like 90 minutes, and the speed and editing of the movie was spectacular. As for Austin Butler, his portrayal of Elvis was truly in another league, an Oscar nomination for sure. I suspect that's right, actually. I would hope so, because he really deserves it. Jackie Martin, Heritage listener, dear Pelt salad and Ali. I saw the majestic Elvis yesterday,
Starting point is 00:37:40 and it really has left me, well well all shook up. After initially thinking Austin Butler was a risky casting choice I was blown away by his performance. He just is Elvis. He has his mannerisms, his walk the way he moves on stage absolutely spot on. The live performances as Simon said were electric. I felt such a rush of excitement watching them. I briefly forgot I was watching a movie. He must have studied Elvis shows for months the attention to detail is incredible. A breathtaking achievement which I can't wait to see again. Take a detongue down with manipulating promoters and up with black leather trousers. Can I ask, have we had negative emails or have they all been positive about Elvis?
Starting point is 00:38:17 Very good point. I'm sorry, that was very good. That's almost as if that was in the script and it wasn't. Alex Reid. After Mark's passionate review of Elvis this week, I feel a little reticent about writing in on such a contrary note. Here we go. And I'm afraid to say Elvis is the first film in a very long time where I've considered leaving halfway through out of sheer exasperation. I could not believe how mind-nummingly bored I was throughout. No amount of flash could save a menagerie of surface-level impression- style performances, a story that had less emotional depth than a petri dish, shockingly lazy writing that indulges in every biopic cliché it could seemingly muster, and truly astounding in how it pays sparse lip service to his music's relationship to the black community, without
Starting point is 00:39:00 engaging with it on any serious intellectual political or even a moral level. Hanging a lampshade over a thorny issue does not make it go away. And why on earth did such a surface level affair need to be two and a half slogging hours long? The major caveat I want to offer is this, I have no great affection or hatred for Elvis' music. I acknowledge its importance in musical culture, but you don't find me making the pilgrimage to Graceland. My impression is that those who are more ingrained in the Elvis Mythos than me will have a much
Starting point is 00:39:28 better time with the film. More power to them, I'm sincerely glad that folks like Mark Fan, something of great value in Lermans work, even if I didn't. Diversity of opinion is what make the art form dynamic after all, keep up the sterling work. Yeah. Well, you know, yes. I mean, clearly I'm in a different place to you
Starting point is 00:39:48 than you are with the film. And you're absolutely right, to diversity of opinion is important. I've been surprised by how oddly lukewarm some critical, I hadn't read any of the reviews before I saw the film and then I did mine and then I had a look afterwards. And I saw that some people had been a little bit sniffy. I was just surprised because from your point, you saw the film first and you're not an Elvis ball and you really
Starting point is 00:40:14 enjoyed it as a film and you said, but the question will be what you think about it. If you have, if you are steeped in the Elvis Mythos which I am and I'm waiting to hear what Sanji thinks about it because Sanji knows this stuff inside out. I thought it was fantastic. I can't understand anyone being bored by it unless it's kind of, if you don't engage, I suppose the kinetic nature of it, if you don't engage with it, I can imagine, okay, fine, then it's just stuff going on. But I found it, I found it hit all the right notes in terms of the story. I don't agree at all about the paying lip service to the origin of the music. I don't agree with that at all. I thought that Austin Butler's performance was incredible. Incidentally,
Starting point is 00:41:01 hats off to Polly Bennett, who is the movement coach who who who I've met and you know interviewed and who talks about explaining what the movements that Elvis is doing on stage at any point in his career are and explains it in such a brilliant way. I mean I just I loved it. I absolutely loved it. The American number one is Top Gun Maverick, which we've talked about a lot. Harry Johnson says, heritage listening. That's why I was about to share Top Gun Maverick because I can't get that in my head. Top Gun Maverick. Top Gun Maverick.
Starting point is 00:41:32 Heritage list, a debut correspondent. I have missed the plane a bit on this, but I have a story about Top Gun Maverick. Oh, sorry. Top Gun Maverick, sorry. After far too many years, my family and I all went to the cinema. The film on the breathy insistence of my mother, Top Gun Maverick. Top Gun Maverick! If then you Glasgow City World, the big one.
Starting point is 00:41:52 We all, my family and our fellow cinemas, go settled into our seats ready for a transporting experience with Mr. Cruz, all went well up until the first scene with John Hamm playing Cyclone. What were Cyclone's feelings towards Maverick? What was the dynamic set up between them? We may never know, because at that exact moment, one of our fellow cinema attendees phoned went off. He answered it. This vexed another of our multiplex Cleontel. Now you must imagine the following heavily redacted exchange in your thickest, glazwee gen accents, which I am not going to do.
Starting point is 00:42:26 So you can imagine it. The latter, phoneless gentleman asked the former still on his phone, gentlemen, to hang up. He refused. Their exchange then devolved to insisting at length that no, the other gentleman was more like a certain element of typically male genitalia. A third party then told them both to shut the filibuster up. Corn Mr. Hamm couldn't get a word in Edgeways. The height of absurdity was perhaps when someone bellowed from the back. This is why I stopped going to Bond films. Eventually a Nusher came into onto the breach, remove one of the combatants, and we were left to the actually less contentious and testosterone-fueled events of the film. That this all happened not at a boozy weekend screening, but on a Tuesday
Starting point is 00:43:09 afternoon was the icing on the cake. I'm happy to say the experience reaffirmed for us the importance of seeing films in cinemas. Never change Glasgow. Never change. Says Harry Johnson. Well, sort of a psychopath would you have to be to answer your phone and then carry on a conversation when asked to stop? I mean seriously. I know. Anyway, the US top 10 that was and top-com Maverick. Top-com Maverick. Is it number one? We'll be in the live to live very shortly, but first tell us something that's out and available. So Nitro, which is a new movie by Justin Kerzel, who CV includes Snow Town, which was based on real-life murders from 90s South Australia. Macbeth with Michael Fassbender, Assassin's Creed, again with Fassbender. Macbeth had Fassbender, the true history of the Kelly gang with Gorgeous George McCoy.
Starting point is 00:43:58 So this stars Caleb Landry Jones, who is a disturbed young man, nicknamed Nitram, which has gone his mark in backwards. Living with his mother and father in poor Arthur, Australia, he seems to be first meet him to have clinical emotional behavioral difficulties. Also a reckless streak. We know that he burned himself as a child and we now see him giving fireworks to local school children. His mom's played by Judy Davis, the brilliant Judy Davis. Somebody who wears her nerves on the outside.
Starting point is 00:44:28 His father loves him, but struggles to contain his behavior. His father has set his sights on buying a home that he can turn into a B&B. He says it's his dream, it's the thing he wants to do. He then meets up with a wealthy woman, Helen, played by S.E. Davis, who was so great in Babaduk, which we mentioned earlier on in the show. She lives on her own with her cats and dogs.
Starting point is 00:44:48 He turns up saying, can I mow your lawn, but he clearly couldn't mow a lawn, you know, he doesn't know what he's doing. Instead, she takes him in, ends up buying him a car, and he, you know, he basically moves in with her. They then meet his mother, who is not best pleased at this arrangement, he's a clip. I've got you something to tell Star sign.
Starting point is 00:45:11 You know, our birthdays are only nine days apart. No, I didn't. You're a ballerman. Try me to bring the keg out. Maybe, maybe after. All right, thank you, sweetheart. Happy birthday. We brought in some Indians too. My gold?
Starting point is 00:45:28 Something sweet, I know he'll like... Oh, goodness, you know a lot about my son. Can you lift me to someone? What exactly is going on here? Sorry, I don't know what you mean. You know, as you're lawn, you're by my car. You know, as it again, and he moves in with you. What's next, marriage? He needed a car.
Starting point is 00:45:47 He doesn't have a license. I didn't want to go. Yes, well, I guess you don't know anything. Attention. Well, so for a while, the drama kind of continues like that. It's kind of like a, you know, like a more anxious version of, like the Harold and Mord old couple scenario. Then things really start to fall apart. The house purchase that his father wants to make falls through his father falls into depression. Helen suffers an accident. He ends up in the house alone with his thoughts and her money. And his attention's turned to guns, which are shockingly easy to purchase. The film is inspired by the real-life story of Lone Shuto who is currently serving 35 life sentences because of
Starting point is 00:46:27 atrocity committed in 1996 and Nitram has said Martin name backwards Because that history is still very recent the film met with a lot of controversy in Tasmania the mayor of the Tasman Council condemned the decision to make it at all Several other local motories express concern Council condemned the decision to make it at all, several other local motories expressed concern. The director said, I've never worried so much about making a film. The last thing I want to do is to bring trauma to a place that I absolutely adore and love and decided to bring my children up in. The writer Sean Grant started working on the script after being in the US in 2018 when there were two shootings, the Pittsburgh synagogue shooting in the thousand oaks in California, and hearing people defending their right to own semi-automatic rifles.
Starting point is 00:47:12 And this started him thinking about the poor Arthur Masker and he said, I wanted every day responsible people to walk in the shoes of someone who should not have a weapon and then watch them walk into a gun shop and see how easy it was. So the film is specifically about an issue that is really contemporary and very, very urgent. What kind of society would allow you to purchase weapons? The atrocities themselves happen offscreen, but there is a really shocking scene in which character played by Caleb Landry Jones walks into a gunshot with a bag of money and is sold quite happily an arsenal of terrifying weapons. And this is treated as if it is completely fine and normal
Starting point is 00:48:06 Now the film ends with an acknowledgement that despite a national firearms agreement in 96 there are now more guns in Australia than prior to the agreement and The as far as the controversy about the film it was being made it went on to one eight I think it was eight Australian Academy Awards including best film Film, Best Director, Best Screenplay for Sean Grant, Best Actor for Caleb Landry Jones, Best Actress for Judy Davis, Best Supporting Actress for SC Davis, Caleb Landry Jones won Best Actor at Cannes. And now I didn't know anything about the film
Starting point is 00:48:39 before I started watching it, which is kind of why I've constructed my view in the way I have. I just knew that I knew the director's name and I knew I knew kind of Landry Jones and I've got other members of the cast. And I thought that what was very powerful is it does exactly the thing that the writer said I wanted to do, which was to confront somebody with some with a picture of somebody who clearly, with a picture of somebody who clearly, absolutely clearly, should not have access to guns and then watch them have access to guns in a scene that is really kind of underplayed and low-key utterly terrifying. Now, I do understand, of course, that any film that is dealing with a
Starting point is 00:49:20 still fairly recent tragedy is going to cause controversy and is not going to be for everybody. But I would say that in a world in which the issue of gun ownership is a very heated question, I mean, even recently the Vatican were talking about this. It is a salientry lesson in the insanity of a world in which there are access to those kind of weapons. And as I said, the fact that the scariest scene in the film is a scene of somebody going into byguns and being sold guns tells you something about how restrained the film is, how much the film is about following a character and showing you a character in the life that they have and the confusions that they have,
Starting point is 00:50:10 and then watching them walk into a gun shop and buy guns. That was what I took away from it. And the movie is called Nitram. Okay, and if you see that, we would love to know your thoughts about it. So that conversation can continue correspondence at curbidamau.com.
Starting point is 00:50:28 We're talking about minions, the rise of grew fairly shortly, but them exactly, and the ads in a moment. First, it's time once again to step into our much-loved laughter lift. Oh dear. Hey, hey, Mark. Hey Simon. Ground floor perfumery, stationery and leather goods. Weeks and haberdashery, kitchen,
Starting point is 00:51:01 we're on food. Going up and down. But before we get there, I just wanted to tell you about my crazy week. Okay. Go on. Go on. Go on. Go on. Go on. Go on. Go on. Go on. Go on. Go on.
Starting point is 00:51:10 Go on. Go on. Go on. Go on. Go on. Go on. Go on. Go on.
Starting point is 00:51:18 Go on. Go on. Go on. Go on. Go on. Go on. Go on. Go on. Go was, of course, memory lane. Anyway, I was a bit discombobulated as a modern joke,
Starting point is 00:51:32 which still needs to be... Try this tape. This calls to mind the Monsieur Ulos Olade about the joke that you saw coming down the road. Exactly, there you go. And there are many others. There are very good. I was a bit discombobulated as I left the house, Mark.
Starting point is 00:51:45 I got loudly and rudely barked at by my next door neighbor's, Blantz, his name is. He has two doberman pinches. They're called Timex and Apple. That's right, they're watch dogs. But the other thought that occurred to me, is you don't get a lot of people named Blantz these days, do you? But in medieval times, people were named Blantz a lot.
Starting point is 00:52:06 Yeah, did you have another one of that you? Been in medieval times, people were named Lance a lot. Yeah. Did you have another one of that? No, in medieval times, people were named Lance a lot. A lot, yeah. Why do I, it was just, I don't know, it was just, you know, the internet, I feel that joke could be polished. And in medieval times, people were named Lance a lot.
Starting point is 00:52:20 That's what I said. No, I know, I know, it was just moving on. But still to come. I'll be reviewing the big release of the week. Minions. Good for you. The rise of grow. We'll be back after this. After this.
Starting point is 00:52:31 After this. After that. And welcome back. Do you wanna use the fart gun? It's an oldie but gold is the news. Thank you. It's time for minions. The rise of grew.
Starting point is 00:52:58 All right, who let the kid in? I thought he was a tiny man. What's wrong with you? You seriously think a puny little child can be a villain? Um, yes, I am pretty despicable. You don't want to cross me. Evil is for a soul who steals powerful ancient stones and wreak havoc. And not for tubby little pks who should be at school. Learning, taking a recess, suck I can't stop.
Starting point is 00:53:34 That's fantastic. I want to now see the whole thing. But you have seen the whole thing. I have seen the whole thing. So, meaning it will firstly, we know what I feel about minions from way back. So this is the latest minion feature for me. Liberation. So we first met minions in Despicable Me in 2010. I think that was directed by Pierre-Kafan and Chris
Starting point is 00:53:54 Renaud, who you interviewed. So you tell me in 2015. I know, but I can't believe that you could possibly forget that you had done that. Then they reappeared in Despicable Me 2 in 2013. 2015, they got their own movie, The Minions movie, which was Pierre-Coffin and Karl Balder. And then there was another despot. Maybe it was Karl Balder that you interviewed. No, it was Karl Balder. I beg your pardon, it was, yeah, you interviewed Pierre-Coffin and Karl Balder. And then there was another despicable me. This now is the sequel to the 2015 prequel minions movie.
Starting point is 00:54:30 If it's the sequel to the prequel, that makes it the original. Well, because it's not, it's not sequel enough to be the original. Okay, so original is here. Yes. Prequel is here. So you're,
Starting point is 00:54:41 this is good idea, isn't it? A foot apart. So the sequel to the prequel is there. Three inches apart. So we're still in idea, isn't it? Yeah, a foot and a part. So a sequel to the prequel is there. Three inches apart. So we're still in the 1970s. Right. So it picks up after the Minions movie. Grue, voiced by Steve Carell, is, I think he's 11 and 3 quarters.
Starting point is 00:54:56 Suburban kid who dreams of joining the Super Villain League, the Vicious Six. And he gets the chance when they oust their leader. But things go badly wrong in the interview, as you just heard, that was the clip of him going for the interview for the thing. Meanwhile, the minions have turned up on his doorstep, and it has become his minions. And through a convoluted plot twist, there is a kind of amulet, which has been stolen by the original Vicious Six's leader and he ends up stealing it and then one of the minions has it and then they lose it
Starting point is 00:55:32 and then everybody's after him, the minions are trying to find the thing and get it back. He meanwhile gets kidnapped but teams up with it. Yeah, so the plot, as you can tell, is the kind of standard, I'm sorry. It doesn't really matter. Yeah, what exactly is going on? Voice cards, cast includes Alan Arkin as well, Knuckles. So as you be Henson as Bell Bottom, who becomes the new leader of the vicious six,
Starting point is 00:55:55 Michelle Yo is Master Chow, who teaches the minions kung fu. The Rizzer is Otto Zabiker. Jean-Claude Van Damme as Jean-Claude, who has a claw, Dolph Lundgren as a Russian roller skating vissiers member called Svengents. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:56:14 Danny Trae was stronghold, he's got metal hands, Lucy Lawler says, none-chuck, who is a nun. With a nun, in that clip, I saw that there was a nun and a massive nun-chuck. Russell Brand is the young adopted in the fairy out, and Judy Andrews is a cruise one.
Starting point is 00:56:26 So actually most of those people have very little to do. I mean, they're kind of the John Claude and all the rest of it. So a couple of lines, absolutely tops. And in the end, none of it matters. What matters is this. We had Rowan Ackinson in last week and we talked about slapstick and the mechanics of slapstick. And the thing that I have always thought about minions is that they are brilliant animated
Starting point is 00:56:53 slapstick. There is just something about the way in which the minions physical and verbal comedy works. I mean, even the verbal comedy is slapstick because obviously they talk gibberish when they talk gibberish, what sounds like different linguistic denominations of gibberish but it's gibberish and it's beaded up but it has kind of cadence and all the rest of it. But there is something about the minion slapstick that just tickles my funny bone and I, the movie is 90 minutes long and I think I probably laughed for about a good three quarters of those.
Starting point is 00:57:28 The stuff that's kind of, I'm less interested, and he's the plot, the mechanics of the plot, the thing about the Watts, we've got to get the theme, we've got to go over here, they've asked it then, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, fine, I've got no problem with it. The film starts with a kind of bond gag opening,
Starting point is 00:57:42 incidentally, the, um, is in the beginning of the movie, it has a great big large fart gun thing. And then there's a bond opening with the minions doing all the sort of, you know, what would usually be the, you know, the bond girl shapes that happened. Okay, but done wrong, the raunchy. The raunchy, but done by minions.
Starting point is 00:58:00 And then later on, there's a gag in which they go to see jaws and they need to get the cinema's full. They want the cinema to be empty. So they throw in a fart bomb. So then everybody leaves and they watch it while wearing gas masks. But the rest of it is just, I do think that the minion slapstick is hilarious. And I think it's hilarious because I really, really love great physical comedy. And I know it's animated. I know it's a series of still images that create the illusion of movement. But this series of still images creating this illusion of movement just works for me. It's like a balm for my soul. Honestly, it's probably not for me up on a par with the first Minion Stand-alone movie. But, you know, things, these are difficult times,
Starting point is 00:58:54 and these are dark times in many ways. There are things going on in the world that are very distressing and disturbing. 90 minutes of watching the Minions do the thing that the minions do has put a spring in my step that in a way kind of defies reviewing. All I can say is I laughed and I laughed and I smiled and then I laughed some more. And yes, some of it was noises which are always funny, but an awful lot of it is, whenever you have the scene to the minions, there's always the minion in the front doing the thing, and there'll be another minion to the side doing something else. And you remember Rowan Atkinson, we talked about this earlier,
Starting point is 00:59:36 Rowan Atkinson talking about that thing about Jacques Taty setting up a gag that you can see coming from, the way in which the minion slapstick gags work, are literally people will come up, but minions will come on and drag on a piece of equipment and drag on a, they will like construct the gag in front of your eyes and then you laugh. And it's, I know it's mechanical.
Starting point is 00:59:58 The thing about slapstick, as we said last week, is you can never be slapped dash about slapstick. But it's like Tom and Jerry somehow they've struck on a formula of entertainingly darts violence that works brilliantly. And the other reason it works is because the minions themselves are so smiley and happy and the keep referring to, keep referring to Grue was mini bus because he's a good kid. They've still calling me, he's calling mini bus.
Starting point is 01:00:34 And I can't do the minions voice partly because you have to speed it up in order for it to work. I sat down, I, you know, said, okay, but we're fine, here we go. Make it work. And then the first five minutes, there was other stuff going on, so I'm setting up the plot, okay, you know,
Starting point is 01:00:46 I don't know, we want that. And then the minions started doing the stuff. And I just laughed like an idiot. And I feel slightly, you know, slightly lightheaded even recalling it now because it just works. It's just slapstick comedy that is made by people who understand how slapstick comedy works. That it's, slapstick comedy is is made by people who understand how slapstick comedy works. That it's, slapstick comedy is not narrative driven.
Starting point is 01:01:08 It's a series of interlocking sequences that have their own internal logic. During the course of a 90-minute movie, that internal logic kind of snowballs and becomes more absurdist. And there is a spectacularly absurdist climax. And you have the, you know, there's an exorcist joke in it. There's a joke about Kill Bill. None of that matters. There's loads and loads of cine-literate nods and references, but none of that matters. That's not what makes, I'm not laughing because that's, I mean, I think that's the greatest indication. There is a gag in the film that is clearly a gag about Ellen Burst and going upstairs and opening the door of Reagan's bedroom and seeing something horrible.
Starting point is 01:01:49 And the reason it's funny is not because there's an exorcist gag in there, but it's because in other scenes, minions are hitting each other on the head with, you know, with, there's a bit, there's a bit, one of them's being interrogated and they're shaking him by his dungarees. And then we're like, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, because he goes up and he starts shaking him by his dungarees. And then into the left of frame comes in another million with a baseball bat.
Starting point is 01:02:16 And I just thought, that is such a well-constructed joke. You know when you arrive at a party and everyone has been drinking for about two hours. Is that why I was? And you're the sober one. I feel as though I'm, Do you know where, you know, you arrive at a party and everyone has been drinking for about two hours and you're the sober one. I feel as though I'm, well, it's true because you've been to see your punch drunk because you've been to see the minions and I'm the one who's been sitting here going, okay, well, I want to see the minions. And can we, can we say for the purposes of this recording,
Starting point is 01:02:38 how this, how this has worked out? Can we reveal? Okay. So I'm literally, I literally finished seeing the minions movie 15 minutes ago. So we paused, we paused the recording, you went to see it because that's the only time you could see it. Just to be clear, what happened was we got to, you said, here's a clip. And at the point when you said, here's a clip, you got on a bike. I got on a motorbike, drove to Universal, went in, saw the movie, laughed like an idiot, came out, got on a motorbike, came back and walked into the studio and picked up after the call. I'm still here, and I moved.
Starting point is 01:03:12 Exactly, you were still there. I had a bacon roll, and I did some prep for another show. And I do feel slightly punch-drunk, and that's how I want to feel after a Minions movie. Minions the rise of Groo. Will it be album... Movie of the week, we'll find out. Quick bit of what's on before we go. I'm sorry. Quick bit of what's on. This is where you e-mail us a voice note about your festival or special screening from wherever you are in the world. You send yours to Correspondence
Starting point is 01:03:39 at Kermit and Mayo.com. This week we're going to start with Kirstie. Hi Simon and Mark, Kirstie here from the Outdoor Picture Palace. Join us on the 16th and 17th of July as we screen the Rocky Horror Picture Show, the Descent and the Alpenest, in the late district at the UK's most extreme cinema. If you fancy being driven up a mountain in a four by four, before getting comfy inside Honest's estate mine with popcorn in hand, book tickets now at theoutdoorpictipalice.com. See you in the audience. Hello Simon and Mark, this is Steve from Tape in Old Colour in North Wales. July 1st sees the release of our second feature film approaching shadows.
Starting point is 01:04:10 The film's been made by over 250 people accessing the charity over the last four years with every element of the work completed through an inclusive production model. It's released in the UK through Bohemia Media and we'd love people to check it out. Thank you. Hi Mark and Simon. My plug is the Carbonale, a one-day climate culture festival, July 2nd in Berlin. One of the organizers is a very good friend, documentary film, Make Helena Mula. The event is all about living with a climate crisis in a non-hand-dringing way. That's Carbonale, C-A-R-B-O-N-A-L-E, dot com, July 2nd Berlin.
Starting point is 01:04:46 So that was Kirsty from the outdoor picture palace, Steve from North Wales, Veronica plugging the Carbonally Film Festival in Berlin. Veronica is from Los Angeles but currently living in Vienna in case you're wondering. And that is it for the end of take one production management in general. All-round stuff was Lily Hamley. Cameras by Charlie Moore videos Videos on our tip top, very shiny and wonderful YouTube channel by Ryan O'Meara. Johnny Socials was Jonathan Imiieri. Studio engineer was Galiver, Galiver Tickel. Flynn Roder, I know.
Starting point is 01:05:18 Flynn Roder means the assistant producer, Hanatul, but is the producer and the reductor, not that he's turned up and he's in a meeting apparently for the next few minutes With Simon. What does he actually do? No, absolutely no idea mark. What is your film of the week? Thank you for downloading become a subscriber will become a member of the Vanguard Easter and more of this will be added unto you on Monday for take two.

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