Kermode & Mayo’s Take - Rory Kinnear, Top Gun Maverick, Stranger Things and Bob’s Burgers

Episode Date: May 27, 2022

Mark and Simon are live from the Union Chapel, Islington, London! They’re joined by friend of the show Sanjeev Bhaskar, and Rory Kinnear who is starring in ‘Men’. Mark reviews Top Gun: Maverick, French film ‘Between Two Worlds’, American animation ‘Bob’s Burger’s’ and the new series of ‘Stranger Things’. Plus, extra bits live from the church! You can contact the show by emailing [e-mail] or find us on our social channels. Show timings: 7.26 Bob’s Burgers Review 11.42 Sanjeev Bhaskar interview 23.01 Between Two Worlds Review 31.00 Box Office Top 10 39.22 Rory Kinnear interview 51.31 Top Gun: Maverick Review 01.00.11 Stranger Things Review A Somethin’ Else & Sony Music Entertainment production. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts Exclusive! Grab the NordVPN deal ➼ https://nordvpn.com/take Try it risk-free now with a 30-daycare  money-back guarantee! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Something that's... It's not on yet. No, they haven't switched them on. They said they'd tell us. Did I tell you that brilliant story about the exercise? Almost certainly. But, okay, so, great. Oh, are we allowed to swear? They can't, I mean they can't birds always be people.

No, please don't swear. Why would you want to swear? And don't mention Trump either. So repeat after me, air, air, rue, rue, dite. LAUGHTER

Are you dite? Ugh. I give up. Roo, Roo, Diet. Error your diet. Ugh. I give up. So how many times do you think we can squeeze in a corporate plug for the extra takes? I think we get loads. Come on, extra takes is great value, it says here. And 349 is only half the price of one large popcorn at a cinema chain. You're such a tarp. So they could buy, they could not buy the popcorn, improve the viewing

experience, spend 349 on us and then put 349 on a charity bucket. Everyone wins. Why are you groaning? I can't hear anything. It's a church. Anyway, listen, there's a bargain price. 349 a month, Mark. I know. That sounds... It must be a misprint, it must be $34.90 a month. They put the dot in the wrong place. Yeah. And they can subscribe via Apple Podcasts or then go to extratakes.com, apparently.

Have you sold out? Anyway, I'll give up. Hang on, I think our walk on music is about to start. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, Methodists, we invite workers, Fleners, robot surgeons, magicians, scaly magins, skeptics, clergy, saratmasists, teenagers, architects and apostles. It's time for Kermov and Mayo's take from Narnia and from slightly further north and show his North London. It's Mark Kermode and Simon Mayo! Wow. Oh, you're back.

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I said, it is LinkedIn. I'm bringing it on stage. Anyway, we appreciate you coming. Thank you very much indeed. We're wired up. We have headphones. We have microphones. We have guests.

We have an audience. Thank you very much indeed for coming. We have people who've come from audience. Thank you very much, Dave, coming. We have people who've come from a long way away to be here. Does anyone come from, I don't know, Surrey? Anyone from Northamptonshire? It's the same person, but it's a hand up. It doesn't have a tap work out. Anyone from, how far afield do you think,

oh, Mark's plug in this? No, I'm done now. Ask him if there's anyone here from Cornwall. Are you ordering for some food or something like that? Would you like sushi? Anyone come from Cornwall? No! How'd you go?

Anyone from the Midlands in general? No! Very good. Anyone from Italy? You want? Anyone from Scandinavia? There was that comedy, yeah. That was racist, I think.

Which Sweden or Denmark or Sweden? Okay, you're very welcome. Anyone else from abroad? Where are you from? Thank you very much, Dave, for. You've come in all the way from America. You didn't get any applause for that. Literally Sweden, Hurray, Midlands, Hurray, America, Silence. I think we ought to, what's your name, sir? Erick. Okay. I think we ought to welcome Erick from America. There you go. That's better. And we should tell Eric midterms are coming up, take them

seriously. Your future is very important. I knew Eric was going to be trouble. So, do we go back on script now? I've got no idea. I mean, I'm just trying to find the bit that we're on, but I have no idea what it is. As Page Six, Mark and Simon onstage to applause. To applause. Yeah. Should we do that again to applause? Thank you very much. You're very welcome to Kermurden Mayo's take. What is coming up on the show today, Mark? We've got reviews of Bob's Burgers. Does anybody know Bob's Burgers? Eric from America.

Eric from America's all 13 series. We've got between two worlds, which is based on a French journalist, a best-selling nonfiction work about going underground in the French cleaning industry. And we've got, there's a new season of Stranger Things. And also a film which is going to be our version of Crackage Act for this live show, that probably is a cultural reference which is not going to work, I think, very much. So here's how it's going to work. Whenever you hear Mark or I say top gun maverick

You have to repeat it back to us. So it works like this. I say top gun maverick used to very good lead there By what's your name, sir? Paul Paul the Phil Collins look alike on the front here Stand up show them how much you look like Phil Collins. As Phil Collins ladies and gentlemen, it actually is coming in the air tonight. Very good. So I say top gun, Maverick. That's how it works. You got to go. It's fun. We have two special guests. In a few minutes time, we're going to have a chat with Sanji Baskar, ladies and gentlemen. He is not in Top Gun Maverick, though.

It'll tire quite quickly when you're with him. It's overused. And then a bit later, Rory Keneer is going to be with us. And I should be taking him to task over his latest film Men, from which I'm still recovering. Plus we're going to do some top 10 chat. The film's that Mark hasn't seen, it may be that you have seen, in which case you can step up for that. And then we're going to do some super special take-to stuff, including a Stranger Things One Frame Back. We are live at the Union Chapel. Mark, let's get a review out of the way. When I say out of the way, I don't mean...

I know exactly what you mean. ..that's...I know this is technically a movie show, but it is like, yeah, let's do the movie stuff. Anyway, now, back to the organ in the harmonica stuff. So, the Bob's Burgers movie, and I confess that I had not been familiar with Bob's Burgers before. So, this is following in the Grandfoot steps of South Park, the movie and the Simpsons movie, another profoundly low-fi big screen spin-off from a very, very popular TV sitcom

that didn't obviously seem like it needed a big screen spin-off, but. So I went, this is the series is created by Lauren Boschard, who hear co-rights and directs. And it starts with the Belches, who are this family, Bob Linda, Tina, Jean and Louise, together in the Berger Shop, which they are running, but which is not on course for a sunny side-up summer. And I think you can see the clip.

Wow, that's the first time an exterminator said he's going to pray for us. That's okay, right? That's not a bad sign. No. What's he doing, Jean? I'm making an instrument? That's not a bad sign. No. Whatcha doing, team? I'm making an instrument out of spoons at a napkin holder and dreams and magic. Obviously, Tina.

How's the barricaded, Bob? It's okay. I put in a gun. Why is dad making a burger at 8 a.m.? Is he on British time? He's making it to bring to Mr. Dalling at the bank. We were meeting this morning and we're gonna ask for an extension on a loan payment.

Oh, fun. And we really, really need to get that extension. Oh, the restaurant equipment is wrapped up in that loan. So you're giving him a burger? Well, I mean, we can't give him money, Tina. Because we don't have any. Pretty much. How about you playing some of this?

What, to scare him? No, to enchant him. So here's the thing. I went into it. I didn't know anything about Bob's burgers at all. So I imagined that it was a kid's cartoon. So I spent the first five minutes thinking, wow, kid's cartoons have really changed.

They get to the bank, the bank refuses to extend the loan. They've got seven days in which they realize that they have to, they're going to have to sell more burgers in order not to lose the joint, which is then maybe more difficult by the fact that a massive sinkhole opens up in front of the burger joint, so that nobody can get into, they can't have any customers. And then there's a murder mystery which has to be solved also in connection with not losing the burger joint. And the shot next door to me, so often that is a funeral parlor called It's Your Funeral. Here's the thing, because I haven't seen the series,

I don't know how many of these gags people who've seen the series are already familiar with. But I started laughing at the It's Your Funeral, Funeral Parlor, and a shop called Ships and Giggles. And the fact that they're down on a wolf site, and there's a carnival-esque celebration of the Octa-Wolfa Vurserie, celebrating 80 years of cheap thrills with almost no decapitations. And I thought it was, I mean, I said I went in thinking, okay, it's going to be sort of sponge bobby and it's not at all. It's really smart, it's really funny. There's a very quite a part from that joke about him basically inventing Skiffle. There's a joke about them booking a band, a band of accordion players that are called a ordinary people. And for that alone, it's worth it. There's a bit when they go to the Carniapolis, which is where all the Carnival folk live,

which is, remember Nightmare Alley? It could have given Nightmare Alley a run for its money. There's a scene in it in which the mum, in order to help sell the burgers, dresses up as a sexy hamburger, which is something which will haunt my dreams for many years to come. And then underneath this, this kind of really sweet gentle message about family sticking together and about somebody overcoming their own anxiety about them, about being called a baby because they wear bunny ears as a kind of security blanket, but realizing that in fact all they need around them is their family.

There's also a faunzy joke, which won't make sense to anybody under the age of 50. So having seen this, I now want to go back and watch all the previous series. I laughed all the way through it, and I knew nothing about it on the way in. I thought it was really funny. How many series?

Third, apparently, it's in, well, 13th production cycle, which sounds like a kind of alien life evolution thing. We have 13th production cycle. And I had never come across it before. I never even heard of it. So obviously some people here had. But I imagine many of you hadn't, right?

Yeah! So I'm not sure whether that was yay I hadn't heard of it or... Our first guest is Radio and Waiting in the Wings, actor, comedian, television presenter, radio presenter, from time to time, presenter, top film podcast, when we're on holiday, it can only be Sanji Baskar OBE! CHEERING AND APPLAUSE Oh, there we are.

Thanks. Sanji. I was so looking forward to the next Indiana Jones film. It's nice to see you, Sanjee. OBE. Well, apparently. You're higher-ranking than me. Well, I didn't want to bring it up, but since you have, I think I can beat you with a stick.

Is that what it gives you the right to do? Yeah, I think you can be peasants with a stick. Not suggesting you are a peasant. No, of course. It's I. Sorry, Mark. Do you not have a... No, no, no.

I may have mentioned this before. This is true when it was announced that Simon had his M.B. M.B. Yes. Simon rang up. Linda and I were driving down a car and he rang up and he said, look, there's got some news that's going to hit you know, like we said, what is it? And he said, I've got an MB and we went, oh, that's marvelous. And he went, oh, so you haven't. It's not quite the tone actually.

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Well, whenever we have that in a script, you can't help by, you know, going, okay, thank you very much. Just one more thing. I got a way out. My wife, she's got all your records. So yeah, it runs deep. Do we find out what's in your Rucksack in the new series?

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It's been that kind of thing. I know this is an, so that's really entirely trivial. But the main thing, and obviously this is a spoiler, if you're still working your way through the series, then there's no other way of breaking this news to you, but there's a new DCI because there was a very tragic accident and Nicola Walker didn't make it through to the next series. This is true. Well, I mean, strictly speaking, again, it was the character that I had.

Yes, I did. Nicola Walker is fine. And he's on television. Yes, he is. He's on television. He's on television. You're drifting dangerously close to Charlie Cowford in a series of movie movies.

So just, you know, Cassie Stewart met her demise. She did. She did. So we have a new DCI that's come in, played by a Shinede Keeman, and for those who follow the last series, this picks up a matter of months after the last series ended. So a lot of it in terms of what my character, Sonny Khan, is carrying, is having to kind of solve the crime that is before us, but with a certain modicum of grief attached to it.

We have Rory Keneer coming on a little bit later on you, quite a Bond fan, aren't you? I had a big Rory Keneer fan. I mean, the television, film, and theater, so it was a award-winning turn in a fellow at the national. And he was fantastic. He can do everything. ym yn fawr i'n fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i' fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i'r fawr i fawr i fawr i' fawr So, yeah, you feel me has to play, he plays every male character. Yeah, I mean, you know, who else? Is there one that plays an instrument? No, I know there's not really a lot of them. Ah!

I stay in work, another day. If only he had that skill. He would be like success, just to be clear. Do you play musical instruments, Enchant? Not really, I mean, but I've had a number one. LAUGHTER Is that whispering grass? It was whispering grass.

It was me and Don Estelle. With whispering grass, it was... In case people think I'm just merely joking, I mean, that is a fact. It was spirit in the sky. With garroscates, three weeks at number one, second biggest selling single of the year. I think I'm just merely joking. I mean, that is a fact. So it was spirit in the sky with Garus Gates, three weeks at number one, second biggest selling single of the year.

You must tell us more about that. That is it. That's the whole thing. Can I say, by the way, this is really weird, because you've interviewed me before. Yes. And you've interviewed me before. Yes.

But it's been separate. Yes. This is like good cop, worse cop. It's like, no, do you've been to you before. Yes, but it's been separate. Yes. This is it this is like good cop worst cop You know, it's like no, do you know what? It's a bit like it's a bit like the girlfriend's table and four weddings and a few It's it's two X's that have kind of suddenly and you don't know Right, I feel like I'm mediating. I'm in the middle of you Sanjeev, it's always... Well, it always has been a pleasure to... to have you on.

Sanjeev Baskar, ladies and gentlemen. National Treasure. Sanjeev Baskar. OK, still the calm we have reviews of these films and cinematic television. Topgon Maverickick review coming up. Well done, cos I've completely forgotten. Er, between two worlds and new series of Stranger Things.

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Okay, so we continue. Thanks very much to the pro the emails. This one, top of the pile from Stephen Fry. Okay, so you just have to imagine I'm saying this in a Stephen Fry. This is from actual Stephen Fry. He begins in a... If I were to sit up straight to the Stephen Fry way, he begins, you who, tockly teemington. This is our new greeting. I write as a grateful survivor of the Da Vinci's surgical robot. So last week we had this running thing about robotic surgery and what it can do, which people couldn't do.

I underwent a radical robotic prostate, prostate tech to me a few years back. Everything you say about medical science, mark is true, and then just a little bit more. May I take this opportunity to remind you another chaps listening as the wheel of time turns to think about being sure to get your dear selves tested should things feel different downstairs. Check online for the kind of indicators I might mean.

But hurrah for your new show, how charmingly you cut the mustard, butter the parsnips and smash the avocados. It's time to move on from fruits and vegetables, and perhaps consider how unspeakably disgusting coriander is. I'm sure many would agree. Something must be done, ever yours, Stephen Fry. So there you go. APPLAUSE Okay, thank you, Stephen.

We'll get to as much correspondence as we can, but it's time to get another review out of the way. What are we doing next, Mark? Between two worlds, which is the new film starring Juliet Binoche. This is a French drama that was originally entitled, now we all know my French pronunciations are terrible. So it's a place, we stram. I'm looking to you for reassurance, but I'm getting none, but we stram. We stram.

Phil Collins says we stram, so I'm sticking with that. Anyway, back to the review that we're getting out of the way. So it's a French, it is based on a nonfiction work by Florence Ovenas, who went undercover as a cleaner. What she did was she was living in Paris. She went to another town where she wasn't known. She got a job as a cleaner because she said, this is what she said about the book.

We were all talking about the crisis that was going on without really knowing what to say about it or how to measure it. I decided to go to a French city where I have no ties to look anonymously for work. I kept my identity, my name, my papers. I registered for unemployment with only a baccalaureate as my luggage.

I did not receive any allowance, and it was agreed that I would stop when my research was successful. The day I landed a permanent contract, so as not to be doing anybody else out of a permanent contract, this book tells the story of my quest. So in the film, which is co-written by Emanuel Career, Juliet Binoche is Marianne, who arrives in Cannes, not Cannes, as no one, declaring that she will have no

contact with her whole life in Paris. She goes to a labor exchange, and the first thing that happens is they say, well, you know, what are your qualifications, and she tells them, and they say, well, basically, the thing that's open to you is cleaning. And she says, I'll take it. And they say, well, they have to take you first. And you realize that even at that level of what she's looking to do, all the assumptions that she had about being able to walk into jobs completely wrong. So she gets, she learns how to handle this floor cleaner, which is called the beast. She learns how to deal with cleaning toilets, both private and public. And there is a sense of camaraderie, but there is also a sense that she hasn't yet learned

what she really needs as a car. Now, when we did the show last week, I think it was, we had a foreign language film from which we didn't play a clip and somebody wrote in and said, you know, you should basically play the foreign language clips because we can at least get a sense of what the film sounds like, even if you can't actually understand the French. So we're gonna go without, obviously, if you're here in the venue, you'll be able to see the subtitles.

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about this abhorrent food stuff, and to find another avocado skeptic is a relief indeed. And obviously, we know when the word skeptic is used, like lockdown skeptic, idiot, climate change skeptic, also idiot. So we're in that kind of area. Not only does this fruit taste at best acceptable, but it has the textual equivalent of somebody who was just walked into a room and forgotten what they came in for. Completely lacking in purpose and conviction

in experiencing a crippling lack of self-confidence. All the people already in the room, your teeth, tongue and taste buds, look at them in disgust and wish they hadn't disturbed them. However, the point I would truly like to raise is that from what I understand, as by no means an environmental or agricultural expert, they are also pretty bad for the environment and local communities. Avocados have to be grown on plantations, meaning our rising consumption of the fruit results in increased deforestation and a high usage of pesticides and fertilizers. Also, I've read, don't believe everything you see on the internet kids. Anyway, what do I know?

I just think they taste rank. All the best, especially to avocado haters, Alex. Can I just say, we're in Islington here. I just... If you agree with Alex, will you say yes? Yes. If you love an avocado, would you say no? No.

I think the yeses were clearly outnumbering the nose, but I have very, very large amount. There's the Marxist view of democracy. Yeah, absolutely. But I say, honestly, I think that phrase about somebody wandering into a room and then forgetting what it was. That exact exact. I did mean that. When I say that the problem is it doesn't know what texture it is. It can't decide what texture it is. All right. Now, let's move on.

And I think that's almost certainly enough about Avocado's another review from Mark. Oh, okay. Are we on top gun or are we stranger things at this point? No, that was... He's just said top gun or are we stranger things at this point? No, he's just said top gun. You can't join in if he just says top gun. It's if he says top gun maverick. That's the way. So we'll do top gun maverick then, shall we? Well, we'll get there, but the box office top 10, I think we're going to do next. You just told me to do a review. Are you literally you heard him, right? You heard him say.

Yeah, but they changed their mind. They changed their mind, okay, fine. It's the top 10 Maverick now, and it's an international top 10 box office Maverick. So we've got the UK box office top 10, plus some international numbers for you. Okay, and some of them you've seen, and some of them you haven't.

Some of them we have, some of them we haven't, we were off for a month. Okay, we'll see if, yeah, but you've been back for quite a long time. Yeah, quite a long time when new films come every week. It's like, that's how it works. OK, now we haven't got child positions for all of them because we're speaking on a Tuesday. But emergency is kind of hovering out there.

So, do anybody see emergency? Well, there we are. That's why it's just hovering outside the church. It's just a little really, it's in the whole, I mean, it's an interesting hybrid between something that's a comedy and something that's a thriller, and somewhere in the middle of that, there is a kind of Jordan Peele style satire on liberal American racism, but I think the two elements work against each other.

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Thank you very much, Lee Jane. Ah-ha, the movie is floating around. Alex says, I saw Ah-ha, the movie on Friday, and I loved it. A band that wholeheartedly do not want to work together and yet cannot let go. And thank God they don't because they're amazing. Is anybody here seen Ah-ha, the movie?

And again, I rest my case. It's literally two hours of two people You know a group of people and it's a rock and roll documentary and as big as the disagreements go It's like one of the goes well. I didn't really want to be a keyboard player, but they said be keyboard player So I was keyboard player Also the quiet girl is just outside the job. The quiet girl is fantastic. Please tell me that some of you have been to the Quiet Girl. Yeah. It's wonderful. It's really beautiful, low key.

The more I think of it, not low key, low key. The more I think about it, the more I think it's one of the real finds of the year. It has a fantastic school by Stephen Renek. It's just a beautiful, beautiful coming of age story. Number 10 is Benedictine. Anno Flynn says, I saw Ben Addiction last night, the wonderful station cinema in Richmond, North Yorkshire.

It was thought provoking, reflective, and at times painful to watch, but a very beautifully crafted movie which captured the terror, violence, heartache, and abject loneliness that war creates really well. Jack Loudon is excellent as the lead character, one to watch out for. Jack Loudon is brilliant as Seagfried's Assoon.

And he said this thing, which is that when he was halfway through playing the role, and he'd read all of the Assoon's diaries, he realized that he wasn't playing Seagfried's Assoon. He was playing his director, Terence Davis, who clearly has found a real personal connection with us. And if you're a Terence Davis fan, go see it. If you haven't been a Terence Davis fan before, go and see

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The bad guys is at six. She's fine. I mean, I said old that it starts with the Quentin Tarantino or if it's a kids cartoon, but hey, the lost city is at five. Again, I haven't been because you went through it. Yeah, I think I said it was slightly more grace than that, actually. Sonic the Hedgehog 2 is at 4

Down to nabby a new era is it 3 Down to nabby is so weird firstly because it's called a new era you go it's down to nabby It's not a new era is the same Secondly because it fulfills that the remit of you know It's a British television series with a film so let's send half the cost abroad And then the other half of the cost they hear for a remake of singing in the rain. But, you know, it's down to Naby. It does exactly what it says on the tin and, you know, Maggie goes, goes, why, why, you know, in that way that she does, and it's all fine.

Gordon says, having listened to you for many years, I know you're both romantic. To express my love for my wife of over 40 years, I decided to make the ultimate sacrifice. My wife is a fan of Downton, but I normally turn to my laptop when it's on TV. However, I suggested we take a trip and watch it on the big screen. Sometimes you do get a cinematic revelation, but not this time.

But not this time. Predictable, unsuttle, and no defensive head gear required. The things we do for love now. Will my wife Lynn watch titan with me Alas, I already know the answer Gordon not unless you want to have sex with a car. I think the answer is that's not a wise idea And I'm necessarily seen Everything everywhere all at once is at number two I mean, I think it's just really fascinating that an independent picture costing $25 million

dealing with the multiverse has really given what's at number one, Dr. Strange, a run for its money. It's a really inventive, it's a bit baggy, it's a little bit over long, but when there's this much invention on screen with that little money, you think, good for it. It's an original property and there's so much multi-verse stuff going on at the moment. How great to see a film that actually makes something interesting out of it. Sue, mother of bluehead feminists, but not a pipe smoker. Doctors, I've just come out to the fabulous, everything everywhere all at once, all the time.

So what she says. Very much in line with your often stated truth of the experience of films being fundamentally shaped by what you bring to them. I brought my tattooed queer daughter with me. We laughed, cried, and cried again together. It was a fantastic film experience to share with her. Excellent. Excellent suit.

Excellent. That's everything everywhere, all at once, is it number two. And the number one is Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, so we're still with the Multiverse. Yeah, which, you know, I mean, I like Sam Raimi. I like the fact that there's an awful lot of evil dead in, you know, Doctor Strange, the Multiverse of Madness, but it is true that juxtaposition of it and everything everywhere all at once in the charts, it's impossible not to look at it and go, it's $200 million,

it costs eight times as much as the film that's at number two, and it is one eighth as inventive. That is the box office, top ten this week. We're about to speak to Rory Keneer, Mark. What are you going to be reviewing soon? Well, I'll be reviewing Top Gun Maverick. Top Gun Maverick. And Stranger Things, all to come.

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Okay. And our second guest this evening you may know Ms. Tanna from the Daniel Craig Bond films Dennis Thatcher in the long walk to Finchley. He's appeared in Black Mirror and alongside Benedict Cumpavatch in the imitation game. He's an Olivier and British independent film award winner. He's played Lord Luke and Frankenstein's monster. Who's gonna be up to his character? Credit count by 10 more or so with his apprentice in Alice Scholars. Do you film for 824? It's Rory Keneer! Yeah! Thank you.

I'm just proving that there was a life here. I feel fully introduced. I'm wasted. Now I'm afraid we run out of time. But anyway, Rory, a very welcome. It's very nice to see you. Even though as soon as you walked on, I did find myself feeling rather scared. I have seen the film.

I have seen, I have seen men, Mark hasn't seen it. I'm seeing it on Tuesday. Yeah, very good. This has been well timed. So in? What's also having seen the film? The last time I saw you on television was let you were playing the fascist Colin Jordan.

So, you know, basically, you're a very scary man in a number of ways. Yes, I like to think that they use me, so to make an audience conflicted and confused, rather than the fact that I just lend myself, naturally, into these particular roles. Tell it, well, explain as much as you can, it kind of defies description a lot of the time, but tell us about men, the new Alex Garner movie. It's, well, if you know the work of Alex Garner, it's always quite difficult to define it, except he likes to work in genre in that it affords him something to kick up against. And so I guess on the face of it, men is a psychological folk horror, if such a genre exists, and about a young woman who's suffered

a traumatic event in her life and goes away to the countryside to heal, to attempt to heal that particular event in her life, and meets and has various interactions with various people who live in this small rural village, all of whom are played by me. Yes, that's the key point at the end. You play all the men. I play most men. How many different men do you play? I think they're about eight or nine.

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of what I was doing. I think his films are pretty rich. They're imagistic. They're often quite oblique. But they sort of have an emotional punch. And as much as you might want to try and explain and rationalize and intellectualize his films, I think they

exist most successfully on a sort of a primal level and there's certainly a lot of primal themes within this film. Give us maybe illustrate that with a couple of two or three of the characters that you play. Maybe start with Jeffrey, who we meet first up. Yeah, Jeffrey is the owner of the Airbnb that that Harper the character played by Jesse Buckley goes to and he's sort of a traditional village tof, I guess you'd say. And quite a lot of the characters that Alex was writing were kind of stereotypes or representations of particular figures of English authorities. So I play a Vicar, I play a policeman, I play this sort o'r oes, o'r oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, oes, towards the end of the film. So it was sort of charting enough variety and credibility to all these characters.

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to represent all vickers or a landowner to play all landowners. You wanted to build in a much more three-dimensional character, but you've got eight characters to build 3D for, so that's a lot of work for you. Yeah, the first sort of conversations one had with Alex was to say how I really wanted to make sure that these characters existed as credibly within this landscape, and the countryside in which the story takes place is as significant a character as the characters that I'm playing and that they seeped and emerged from this countryside

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It is very intense, it is very shocking, it is very disturbing as well. Can you say anything about the last 20 minutes? Anything without necessarily spoiling it. o'r gwyithio, i' involved me, sort of, lowing like an animal, makes it sound fun, yeah? And if I'm going? And we have filmed through the nights, so we had about seven or eight nights in the Cotswars, and there are, most people were asleep, but the animals seem to be summoned by my calls, And so quite often takes were ruined by this sort of call and response. And this is over the course of the week, this growing kinship that I was able to develop with either the sheep or the cows in the neighbouring fields.

What I will say Mark, my favourite ever co-star is think midsummer, think mother, which sounds great in a church. I think it's, would that be fair? And I'd say probably some Cronenburg sort of body horror, so no known as well. Are you a horror film fan anyway? Are you going to judge me? No judgment here, it's not. Not... Not hugely. I have enjoyed horror films but it's not something I necessarily seek out. And Jessie herself has said that she, although I can understand why she doesn't return to horror films Because the first one she saw was when she was eight and it was the Texas chainsaw mascot Which is too young Weirdly enough that was you need no Julia DeConna who directed to ten saw Texas chainsaw mascot when she was eight

And she just became the first woman in you know her along with him to win the Palm Dort so you know You know can set you want a very good career. Yeah, yeah, an indie film success is guaranteed. Absolutely. If you ignore the record. What's your favourite horror film? I know you're not particularly bad, but what scared you?

Well, the first one I saw was Friday the 13th. Yeah. And I think I did some Elm Streets at the time. That was sort of like around 11, 12, 13, really good. So I think that was my jumping off point. So you're right in the stranger thing, sweet spot as well. So 80s horror, yes. I haven't watched that, but I'm doing this one.

Exorcist, I have to ask. I have seen the Exorcist mark and I do enjoy that film. Good. Did you sense the pain that I was delivered in? Yes, I have seen it. Yes, I enjoyed it. Am I allowed to stay? He's still hurt. Well, he's now making a point.

Yes. He's right. Now we're going to do more with Rory and take two for our Vanguard hardcore. But it would be fair to say final word on men that you probably, and those who watch this film, is a very specific reference to a film that you haven't seen yet, will never use a letterbox ever again? Yes, blessed be the email. Yes, there's a lot of exploring what various apertures do, and the letter box may be representative

of something. Very good. For the money, Worry Kineer, thank you very much. And now, Top Gun Maverick. Top Gun Maverick! And after that, we've changed things, but Top Gun Maverick, going first of all. Oh, sorry. But we are doing Top Gun Maverick now.

Yeah, Top Gun Maverick first. And Strange You Think. It was funny once, but it's got... So, I imagine that most of the people here are old enough to have seen Top Gun in some form, you know, probably in the cinema when it came out. How many of you saw it in the cinema when it came out? Okay. So Top Gun is one of those weird things in which I never liked Top Gun particularly, when it, when it came out, it was like, yeah, it's a fff. It was not a film that was made for me.

You quoted this thing about Tom Cruise saying that making a sequel to Top Gun, which was unbelievably successful. I mean, huge hit, I mean, brilliantly directed by Tony Scott, you know, a film which was epochal, whether you liked it or not, and massively successful. And Tom Cruise said this thing about making a sequel to top gun It's like hitting a bullet with a bullet and it's an interesting phrase because it implies two things

Firstly that there is an incredible degree of precision about it But secondly that there is an incredible degree of repetition about it and the opening of top gun maverick Burnished sky She's gonna make this very hard Burnished sky. LAUGHTER This is going to make this very hard. Burnished skies, planes going off, aircraft carriers and Kenny Loggins doing, you know, dangerous old. Apparently it's a new version but it sounds exactly the same to me. And then it cuts to Tom Cruise, now a test pilot working in the Mojave Desert. But looking exactly the same as he did, he's got the same, you know, his face is the same,

his body is the, he's sleeping in a fridge. It's the same when they do kind of, you know, topless beach sports. And it's like, wow, and he's still got the shades, he's still got the jacket, he's still got the thing, everything about him. And so the opening sequence, he's also still got the need for speed. Opening sequence the thing, everything about him. So the opening sequence, he's also still got the Need for Speed.

Opening sequence is a sequence in which he has to hit Mac 10, which is ripped completely off of the right stuff. And I love the right stuff, the right stuff is a great film. But hey, they just fine, we'll do the thing, we'll do him doing the Need for Speed. Ed Harris comes along, says, very, very bad, terrible, you never obey rules, Maverick can't do it, he didn't tell the whole thing. You never obey terrible, you never obey rules, Maverick, can't do it, because it didn't tell the whole thing.

You never obey rules, you should be fired, but in fact, we need you to go back to the top gun program in order to be a teacher because we have this mission, which involves getting the best of the best, our younger recruits. Somebody being able to teach them how to blow up a uranium enrichment plant whilst traveling at face melting velocity in a really, really complicated thing, almost impossible, nobody can do it, but if anybody can do it, then Tom Cruise is mad for it,

he can do it. He says, I'm not a teacher, I'm a fighter pilot, I figure he can probably do both. The emotional heart of the piece, and I use the phrase heart, you know, advisedly, is that one of the recruits is Rooster. Rooster is the son of Goose, famously cooked in the first film. Very good. I was really pleased with that. I'm sure somebody else has used it. And Maverick has always blamed himself for this. So he's in a dilemma.

He's in the horns of a dilemma that he is trying to not let history repeat itself. And consequently, it does turn out that he's been basically swathing Rooster's career because he promised that he'd keep him safe. He's a clip. Why did you stand him, I way? You weren't ready. Ready for what? Huh? It's better to fly like you? No. Ready for what? Huh?

It's better to fly like you? No. Ready to forget the book. Trust your instincts. Don't think. Just do. You think up there, you're dead. Believe me.

Why did I believe, didn't you? I'm not going to make the same mistake. So that's... Mark was telling when he was on the show. He said that was one of the audition scenes that he did. So that was what he had to do with Tom Cruise many years ago. And that's one of the reasons why I got it. And he looks so much like...

As you said, he literally looks like he could be the character that he's meant to be playing. So, I went into Top Gun Maverick, with fairly little emotional baggage, other than I saw a paper, an academic paper once, when somebody did a really brilliant analysis of Top Gun as a musical, and they were talking about how the planes are basically the dancers, and it was a really interesting kind of analysis of how Top Gun worked. And then, I'd had discussions with other people

about the politics of Top Gun, and how it was a recruitment video, and how, you know, there was, you know, Navy stools put up in the 4-8 cinemas because it was a recruitment video and how people, there was Navy Stools put up in the 4-8 cinemas because it was recruiting afterwards. And then you watch Top Gun Maverick. And you go, okay, despite all the reservations I have about this, it's really good. And believe me, nobody went in with less pre-packaged desire to enjoy it as I did.

But the reasons it's good are multiple. One of them is the flight sequences are absolutely jaw-dropping. I mean, they've talked a lot about how what they were doing with they were shooting real flying rather than green screening everything. And you really get the sense that firstly, that you are, if you've got actors in cockpits of planes that are doing unbelievable things,

but equally importantly, they're edited in a way that makes sense. I mean, we've also seen stuff that is spectacular, but you go, okay, fine, but it's just a whole bunch of stuff happening. It looks physical, it looks like a, you know, like a choreographed dance, which is why I mentioned that thing about the academic paper before,

and those scenes are really, really thrilling. The second thing is, the emotional beats are absolutely... I mean, you could stop the film about a third of the way through and go, okay, write me the plot for the rest of it, and you'd get it right. What you wouldn't get is the machine-tooled way in which the film hits all the emotional beats. And one of the things I love about cinema

is when it makes you react contrary to what you want to do. Watching Top Gun Maverick, I laughed, I gripped the edge of my seat, and at one point to my eternal shame, I found myself crying at an emotional bonding scene between two people chewing the scenery, and I think it's got under my skin. Is that a Val Kilma moment you're talking about? No, I actually thought the Val Kilma moment was very moving. That was where you were crying.

No, it wasn't. It was later on. No, during the Val Kilma moment, I thought, this is interesting. They've judged this really well, because that could have been, it would have been really easy to get that completely wrong and they didn't. I thought they judged that really well and the cinema that I was in, there was absolutely harsh during that scene, which I thought was done really well. I love Jennifer Connelly.

I think she has a fairly underwritten role as the sassy bartender who sort of love interest in the absence of Kelly McGillis who apparently wasn't invited to this particular party. But in the end, it works because like the jets, it's a spectacular piece of machinery, and I don't say that in a bad way because I love fairground rides, I love carnival rides, and I love them when they do the thing that they meant to do. And I went into Topgum with no no emotional involvement and it got me in the fields. It was pulling at my heart strings.

I was a little bit in love with Tom Cruise in a strange way because it was just like, how are you so, he does this thing with his face which obviously I can't do but he moves bits of his face around and little parts of you die inside. And he's, he's 60 in July. It's just, yeah, which is just terrifying. So, so it did the, and it really was one of the movies that says to you, this is why going to the cinema is different from sitting at home watching Netflix.

I mean, I saw on an iMac screen, and if you're gonna go and see it, and everybody will, it's gonna be a massive hit, it's gonna be huge. Go and see it on the biggest possible screen, turned up loud. And because it's a spectacle, it is a mechanical spectacle,

but just because it's mechanical doesn't mean it doesn't get under your skin. And I just, in the end, I just went, okay, I give up. I like it. Yes, it is a fantastic film. The only thing that we have left to review is stranger things, which we're going to get to in just a moment. So, welcome back. So, Stranger Things is back. As Netflix has got smaller, Stranger Things

has got longer and bigger and bigger. So, I started watching Stranger Things during lockdown when Simon and I did Kermit and Mayo's Home Entertainment Service, what did a piece about it. And in the original adventure, Hawkeets Indiana, Will Buyers disappears, sinister web of experiments, kidnap children, portals into dark alternate universes, the upside down. Most of you, I imagine, will know this because it seems like everybody had seen it other than me.

The production of season four, when we did come at a Mayors' Hymn Entertainment service, had been delayed because of COVID. So now season four arrives to be released worldwide on Netflix in two volumes. The first seven episodes, May 27th, the last two, and July the first. And it's more of the same, but with emphasis on the more, the episodes cost apparently $30 million each. They are anything from one to two and a half hours long each.

Yeah, precisely. And these are people who have been sitting on church pews. Right, right, right. So, picks up in 86 just before spring break, some months after the Battle of the Stockton Mall, which has been passed off as a fire. Oh yeah, there was a fire. I watched that wasn't a fire.

Core Group returned, but they are now geographically split apart, communicating through the ancient method of writing letters. Here's a clip. Dear Mike, today is day 185. Music. I think I have finally adapted. Music. Music.

Music. Music. Music. Music. Music. Oh, right. I've been calved Oh, right! All down your butts, bro, chachos! I even like school now. I have made lots of friends. Even so, I am ready for Spring Break. Mostly because I get to see you.

We will have the best Spring Break ever. So I think the general feeling was that series 3 of Stranger thinks it kind of, everyone was a little bit soft on it. In the case of this, the thing that everyone knows in advance is that at least one character thought to be long gone. Actually, isn't it, it's like that joking, desperately seeking season. I thought you were dead, now I was in New Jersey, although it's not New Jersey. New threat arising, demonic presence that's connected to an imprisoned serial killer play with a retro touch by an 80s horror icon. Causing the main players need to regroup, need to, in some cases, get back some of the powers

that they didn't have. There's a lot of kind of sequel script stuff doing the, a war is coming. Your friends in Hawkins and the I of the Storm, this is going to, it's not just them that we have to save, it's everything everywhere all at once needs to be saved. It's very Doctor Who. In any Doctor Who episode, it's not just the Daleks are going to blow up a planet. It's like all of infinity ever is going to be sort of knocked out.

And there's all the usual hit points. There's the light through the window of closing counters. There's monsters that evoke Stan Winston's pumpkin head. There's a kind of high school jocks versus nerds thing. There's a lovely sequence which o'n gwybod ymwyr i'n gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod yn gwybod Academy 3 being a rubbish movie. And at one point somebody says, oh, you've got Tom Cruise post-dron you will. This is 86 and he looks the same as he looks in Top Gun Maverick. And then there's a sequence when they're driving along the pasta duchies

on the soundtrack. So all that sort of nostalgic stuff is there. The thing is, it's very, it's a lot of stuff. It's all very overcranked. Everybody's got everything turned up to 11. So what it doesn't have, is it? Does it mean overacting? Yes, I think it probably does, but it's all completely in keeping with the thing itself,

which is, it's like, more is more, not less is more, but more is more. So everything is more. So we're on common ground for a million territory. If you liked Stranger Things at the beginning, you'll go, okay, well, there's a lot of stuff here that I kind of like, but it is the same again, except it is bigger. I've only seen the first four, so you know, having those what happens after that. But on the basis of the first four,

it's say it is more of the same, everything turned up to 11, it feels terribly unwieldy. But you know, there's a certain charm in being with those characters again. And I like monsters, and I like- Will you come back for the next two? Yeah, I think I will.

And actually, despite the fact that the unwieldy running times, I haven't got bored. I haven't got bored at all. I have kind of, even while I'm sitting there thinking, well, this, I haven't got bored, all. I have kind of, you know, even while I'm sitting there thinking, okay, well, this, you know, I haven't got bored, so I have enjoyed it. And that's the end of take one, Mark. Don't go anywhere.

We go to the bar in a moment. Production management, general all-around stuff was lily-hamley. Flynn Rodermann is the assistant producer. Hannah Tulbitt is the producer. And the redactor was Simon Pull, evil man monster in the corner. Thanks to everyone at Union Chapel. Don't forget to sign up at kermetermayo.com. Mark, what is your film with the week?

If it's not Top Gun Maverick, I'm going to be very displeased. Well, my film with the week is... So... Next week, we'll be back in this studio and the one and only Danny Boyle will be... Well, I'd like to Danny Boyle. We'll be with us talking about his new Disney Plus series about the Sex Bistels.

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