Kermode & Mayo’s Take - The Best of TAKE 2, Part I: Volume A

Episode Date: August 26, 2022

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out of which I've got this idea, and I think maybe we could spend some money on a thing. Okay, that's it. I mean, that would make you want to send physical violence, I think. And in my house, if I do it, it's the frying pan on the back of the head time, which is strictly speaking, not legal, I think. The metaphorical frying pan back ahead.

I suppose it could caress the back of your head. No, actually, if I do that, if I do that noise, the good lady professor, her indoors, does her mostly, little noise, which is... Total silence. Total silence. Accompanied with a Paddington stand, a very, very hard Padding against that. Because there is also the, which Peter Allen on Five Life was always great with just going,

you know, inevitably it would be a politician announcing a policy, you know, why is this lying lie lying to me? But instead of saying that, which obviously will be a bridge of contrast, you just go, hmm, which is such a great noise because it expresses all of what you've just said. In other words, no one has believed a single word that you said. They've looked at your record. They know what you stand for. Stop talking this cobbler's. You lying, Toe rag. Exactlyler's. You lying to rag. Exactly, but all you have to do is go, fantastic. I love these, these are great.

If there are noises that you make, by which I mean, noises that you're choosing to make with your mouth, so bottom burping is not, not inclusive, that I was thinking, okay, getting touched because I think, I mean, obviously, is that's that's that's umbridge, that's umbridge again. Very good. And do you ever, do you ever do think about employing the word yes to me? No, I think everybody does that.

Don't they? I think everybody does that. Don't they? I think they probably do. But it's in the way in which you, yeah. Yeah, meaning. No. And could you say no to me, yes? I tell you, go, yeah, take me to the zoo. No, okay, I'll ask everyone, go, go. Say, take me to the zoo. No, okay, here we go.

Ask me if it's a different one, go, go, say, I really don't want to do this, but would you like to go and see the exorcist again? Go on. I really don't want to do this, but do you want to go and see the exorcist again? No. Good, but I don't either.

But that means yes. Does it? So, okay, so, intonation, you know, look, would you really like me to drive the car? No. Yes. Okay. It's a very sophisticated language that we're talking about, correspondentsacodermere.com anyway.

This is a slightly unusual show today, isn't it Mark? It is. Oh, we on the script, sorry. Every week. Every week. Because you go so seamlessly from spontaneous bants to reading off of the page. That's right. Where are we? I just said, we've got what's coming up. Well, this one's a bit different, but you didn't say that. You said it's a different, you said what's coming up. Well, this one's a bit different, you see,

because we're not actually back yet. Is that the way you read your own memoir? That's right. And then I was on stage with Frank side to bottom. So I think we're allowed to say that we are we are confusingly recording this before the cruise. So that when we're at the very end of the cruise, you can still hear stuff that we're talking about

because Lawden ladies Sony decided that that's what we needed to do and that we would be missed too much. Basically. What you're saying is if you're listening to us right now, we're not actually physically here because we are somewhere off the coast of New York inevitably, but we are here for you, the vanguard. We are here for you. Yes, although we're never actually physically anywhere because it's a podcast, but anyway, we should go around to people's houses if they're listening and just knock on the door. Also, rattle a collecting tin. Subscribe.

Anyway, but for this show, you know, we've been doing this take-to, Malaki for the hardcore. Are we getting paid for it? Yeah, since we started this gig four months ago. Well, the feeling was that we should give the masses. We're going to give everybody, everyone who listens to this podcast,

to chance to listen to what they're missing. This will then flood them with envy and a sense of jealousy. Avarice. Probably, Avarice as well, and they'll subscribe. Will they cover their neighbours' ass? Yes, I think so. They'll take one look at the donkey in the garden next door, and they'll say, I want some of that. Anyway, there's a lot of great stuff going on in take two.

Yes. There's a line which I missed which was sound sensible, but I had to work it into because you were off page. So come here. I'm off-paste. So coming up, you're gonna hear. Your piece of is where. The more is more, the best, what is this?

You're gonna hear it. I'm gonna, I'll be you, okay? Yes, so coming up, you'll hear all the Moor is Moorah. No sense. The best is best of, from, it's no different. Take two in the last few months. So what that should be is basically coming up,

you're gonna hear all the best stuff from take two in the last couple of months. Yeah. You're gonna hear extra time with guests like Tom Hiddleston, Trevor Huddleston, and Tom Huddleston. Ron Atkinson, Alicia Vikander, as well as the Bits of the production team of Dean The Most Entertaining Sections from the Extra Takes. The idea is to give you a taster of what you could be having. An Amuse Bush, a soup song of what you're missing if only you just chip in. And for this week's actual take-to.

It's me. I'm Annabagotzka here at Gatecrushing this week's show. I am back for this week's take-to. You can hear my interview with Zoui Ashton, who stars in the upcoming period drama Mr. Malcolm's list. You'll of course know Zoui from her role as Void and Fresh Mead, from many other films from the stage as a writer. And because we wanna bring you

the very best bonus content possible, I'll also be doing a full review of the film. Enjoy the highlights for now. I will be back in a bit. The brilliant Anna Boggotskaya. Let's get stuck in then. Take two highlights, here we go for free. Okay, well in take one, we get to spend time

with Tom Hiddleston, which was a fabulous thing. The Essex Serpent, the new TV show and Apple TV Plus, but the great thing about having take two is that we can spend more time with it. More Tom. And we can have more expansive questions. The one that I didn't have time just to mention before we delve straight into this, Tom,

is I have found a connection between Loki and the Reverend Will Ransom. Terrific. This is great. I'm always looking for connections. I'm all ears. Well, okay. So if I understand it right, according to mythology,

Loki is the father of the wolf finir, also the father of the serpent, Juggmann Gandar. And ten points to Gryffindor. There you go. Amazing. Thank you. Loki is also impregnated by a stallion and gives birth to an eight-legged horse, But that's for the TV series. Who hasn't done that? We haven't. Yes, we haven't quite covered that yet in the MCS. So when we were talking about Essex Serpent, we talked about Clare Barnard, looking down your filmography, Joanna Hogg, obviously unrelated to N'Occupelago being really important early on your career, Terry Davis, Deep Blue Sea, Jim Jarmusch, friendly lovers, Ben Wheatley, with high rise, Guillermo, Del Toro for Crimson Peak,

of all of those directors that you've worked with. Who are the ones that you've had the best experiences with? And this doesn't mean pick ones you like and therefore everybody else is offended, but which are the ones that leap out to you as the ones that you've had the best experiences of working with those filmmakers? Well, the first one, I I feel I just leaps out into my mind is Joanna Hock, because

I feel so fortunate that she and I met at the time we did. And I think I was very young and straight out of drama school and she introduced me to, it's interesting because I had a good time at drama school sort of comparatively and there's all kinds of things that actors learn, skills, techniques, ways into text, you know, physical training and all sorts of dance and all kinds of other things. But there's something about meeting Joanna where suddenly it wasn't about any of that. And she introduced me to the idea of cinema as life and that the camera is interested in life. It's not particularly interested in preparation or technique. And that if it's an art form that wants to reflect life and move people with laughter or

or with reflection or tears, you just need to be it needs to be alive. She was an amazing teacher in the best way is that great teachers don't proclaim them to be teachers, they just quietly teach you. And well, we learned a lot from each other, I think, making unrelated archipelago. They were very free and deep experiences. So I can't sort of, I just had a great time with her and it's amazing to see her sort with her latest work. And in your list, he mentioned, I had a wonderful time with Guillermo del Toro, who is, as you know, an encyclopedia of cinema, and his mastery of his craft is near complete, I think. And it was just huge fun.

It's quite a pain, a lot of pain in that film, but strangely enough it was fun, it was great fun to be in this company and we had a great rapport and it was a wonderful crew and so yeah, he made a big impact. Also, the precision, he's so precise, I don't think I've ever worked with anyone quite so precise, his Guillermo. Everything you see, he has carefully chosen everything. And there's a sort of totality of imagining a FIFI, very impressive. Jim Jarmos II, I have to mention, just was so soulful and poetic and generous. And that great hair. Yeah that great hair. Yeah, great hair.

He was very kind to me. That's a very, very memorable experience, actually, working with Tillder and the late John Hurt, who was a great hero of mine. And I loved working with him. And also the late Anton Yeltsin and the great Meej Vashikowska. It was an amazing, amazing bunch. We've been sent a lot of fantastic questions from listeners.

I think he's called Kiarens. Apologies if I've got that wrong. The question is this Tom, I really loved the Pompei scene in the second episode of Loki, where he speaks in Latin. You did a very good and impressive job, and your pronunciation was perfect, though how anyone knows how Latin was actually spoken, I don't know. Was there, asked the question here,

was there a Latin author that you particularly loved during your classical studies? Good heavens. What a specific question. Thank you for the compliment about my Latin. You're quite right Simon, who knows how Latin is supposed to be spoken. I sort of did a sort of hybrid of schoolboy Latin and the kind of choristers Latin, you know, sounding Italian. But the goats in that scene still favorite Latin author probably of it. I loved it. I love a bit. I do. Never without. Never far. Never far. Where would you start with it? Where should we start with Ovid? The matter

more for C's maybe, their good stories of change and transformation. Yeah. And then, of course, you realize that Ovid, or Ovid, it's like he becomes a template for all these amazing sculptors in the Renaissance. So all the great sculptors of the Renaissance, they've all read their Ovid and they're doing all the matter of the season, their sculptors, which are all up in museums and Rome, if you fancy it. Right, very good. You know, I loved High Rise. I'm a big Ben.

Me too, Ben, I didn't get around to Ben. Oh my goodness. Yeah. But I was gonna say, here's the thing about High Rise. So, when you were doing High Rise, I know that you had the suit done, and I, because I know the tailor who had your, you know, in the suit

were sort of taking you look fabulous in that suit. There was a suggestion at one point that you were going to wear another suit, Tom, that you were going to wear the 007 suit. What's happening? Oh, you're so tabloid. Mark, I have no idea. I have no idea.

That was a, I was a, I was a, I didn't know where that was going about the, the tailoring. Yes, Chris Kerr, the great, the great tailor made that suit for, for, the great Chris Kerr, the great tailor made that suit for... The great Chris Kerr for Dr. Lang. I have to tell you, after that, I went and got a suit made by him and I said, I want it to look like Tom Livingston in high-rise

and he went, yeah, in English. LAUGHTER Well, I think we were modeling ourselves, well, there were lots of photographs of gentlemen from the 70s. They're sort of wide lapel, they're sort of slightly flared trousers, but not too flared because he's a doctor. But yeah, I don't know what you're talking about in terms of the other thing you mentioned, Mark. That's above my station and above beyond my Ken. markets. That's those are above my station and above beyond my Ken. So here's another listener question from someone who calls themselves Loki Odinson. I would like to know what

helps Tom when he's feeling low. Things that make him smile, favorite shops, restaurants, cafes and comfort food, and I'd like to thank him for his portrayal of Loki. He saved me more than once, and I'm grateful for him and for Tom. So stuff that cheers you up. Music, friendship, the sea, Roger Federer, dogs, Roger Federer, dogs. Dancing. She's like random words. Yes, so yeah. So if you could go for a walk

with Roger Federer's dog along the sea, you could be made up. I'd be made up. Yeah, that would be fantastic. Do you have a favorite comfort food? That was just comfort food. I was comfort food. Spaghetti ball and aes is,

you can't go wrong with that. Do you have a favorite comfort music? Because I mean, obviously, you know, you, you, did I saw the light and you, you can play that stuff and you can sing it. But is that something that you would listen to or, uh, or your taste is more classical? I might, you know, my taste is all over the place. What was the last album you bought? The last full album. Goodness. You see, I'm, I'm, I'm a hopeless sort of, I tend to roam and the last full album goodness, you see, I'm a hopeless sort of, I tend to roam and the

last full album, can my allow to consult with my telephone and see what it was? As long as it doesn't come off our time allocation. Okay. What kind of a sec? Here we go. What no, how do I get back? I'll keep talking. Old man looks at phone.

Old man, exactly. Old man looks at phone. Old man looks at phone. Where's the purchase one? They always have purchase, don't they? In your playlist, it's coming, it's coming, it's coming, it's coming, it's coming. She's radio gold, isn't it? She's actually radio gold. I imagine if your Tom Middleson, everything for fun. It's a Hamilton soundtrack. Oh, okay. But if I were to roam around my Spotify, it goes all over the place. You've got soundtracks, you've got

Nile Rogers, Nile Rogers, very cheery, by the way, anything by Nile Rogers. Very true. Yeah. What was I listening to, Vilario by the Gypsy Kings? Oh, here we go. I went to see the revival of anything goes in the autumn at the barbecue and I had forgotten how

cheering and optimistic and upbeat those tunes are and so I found myself in in the sort of COVID mist or COVID fog listening to anything goes Oh, There it is. All those cold porter numbers. You can't go wrong with cold porter surely. Tom, it's always a pleasure to speak to you. Thank you very much indeed. We look forward to the whole series of the Essex serpent and I think you're an Arctic explorer next which we look forward to. Thank you. And Tom, I think. Thanks for your time. And Tom, thank you. And Tom, thank for your time. And Tomic. And Tomic.

Thank you. Wrong end of the earth. No. We're close. Literally the wrong side of the planet. But hey, it's icy. It's going to be icy. It's going to be cold.

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obvious thing to do. So let's see what the Whitter takeys are recommending for this week's One Frame Back, which we were at. Or are they Whitter takeers? It's like an undertaker. Yeah. Whitter takeer. I'm a Whitter takeer. I'll take your Whitter. I'm a Whitter takeer. I think that might work.

He's not a Whitter takeer. He's a Whitter takeer's son. He'll do the Whitter taking until the Whitter taking'saker. He's a witter-taker's son. He'll do the witter-taking till the witter-taking's done. Danny from Bristol. Um, re-mythical secretures on film and their relative thematic importance. One example surely stands hundreds of feet above all contenders. I am, of course, talking about King of the Monsters, Gajira. Gajira!

The original 1954 film features a long-last mythical I would contend, dinosaur. I don't think that's too controversial. No, it's fun. Being atomically awoken from its marine slumber before proceeding to flatten large portions of Tokyo. But is it really about the monster? No. Obviously not.

It's a skyscraper-sized analogy for the evils of nuclear war, with one of the main characters being a tortured scientist wrestling with the ethics of creating a superweapon to defeat the monster. Of course, if you watch the American edit, it really is. Just about the monster. Just the monster. There's a lot of Raymond Burr looking at things through binoculars. William Jansen, says possibly Jansen. The creature in the shape of water is based on creature from the Black Lagoon,

which is again inspired by rumors of a less enlightened ages, rumors of Amazonian fish people, i.e. mythical sea creatures, perhaps too much of a stretch. J.P. says the last film I saw with mythological issues to add to that. Yes, also inspired sea monster characters in Dr. Who, in the John Perth we are in. Okay. J.P JP says the last film I saw with mythological sea creatures was probably the lighthouse that I'm not sure if it's only mermaid actually counts. I mean, it's kind of there, but it is kind of there, but they're both completely off their faces by that point, aren't they? That's right.

They've been to sea into the void. That's right. They're more gasp, I think. They've gone a little gasp at this point. Calvin says, Sea Fever, from 2019, it plays up the superstitions in a great way. A good ensemble cast,

I found it claustrophobic and incredibly tense. Also, I love a film with a sense of place and this has it in abundance. The scenes with the monster were beautifully horrifying. I hadn't seen Sea Fever, but I watched the trailer this morning and it's like a growing parasite in the water. It's a white. We reviewed C-Fever when it came out,

Mr. Hardiman, that was director. And I thought it was a film with oodles of atmosphere and that really kind of used its confined environment really well. Yeah, and it's seeping in and it's kind of weirdly parasitic way. Yeah, absolutely. So very good film. What, then, shall we say, is this week's one frame back and where can people watch it?

Are we not going to, is nobody brought up? The Shape of Water was mentioned. Yes, okay, fine. Well, I will go for shape of water. I would like to say that Gajira is really important that when the BFI released the original cut of Gajira some years ago now on DVD, it was a big deal because up until that point people had probably,

you know, more many people had only seen Godzilla and when you saw Gajira it was, but shape of water, I mean, you know, big awards winner and Giamo's, you know, most successful film, but it's widely available to buy rental stream anyway. If you don't already own a copy of Shape of Water, you should do because it's wonderful. You remember the musical fancy sequence in it? Remember the dance sequence, which is just so great. And, you know, it's a work of art. It's a work of genius. Let's pick up again with Ruhnackinson-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B- to listen to first, but he very generously gave us some extra time. So here is more of our

conversation with some of your questions with Ron Atkinson. Before we get to it occurred to me, well actually it occurred to me because my son told me that there's an interesting point, that there is this theory which you may well be familiar with Ron as it involves you, that Ron Atkinson, he told me, has had the biggest laugh in history. Oh gosh. The you were responsible. Oh, is that something to do with the Olympics?

The 2012 Olympics, where Mr. Bean is doing that. I mean, very funny, Joker, I watched it again, but I thought, yes, actually, that's probably right. Watched by billions of people across the world, all laughing, all recognizing Mr. Bean and all laughing at the joke, that's probably right. Watched by billions of people across the world, all laughing, all recognizing Mr. Bean and all laughing at the joke which they all get, that makes it the biggest laughing history. Well, that's a very flattering thought.

It feels slightly contrived as a notion, but I'm very pleased if it's the case. Well, you know of us, but it was such a huge event, and it's still that you can go and watch it again on YouTube because it's very funny But we've scared I was I was nervous, but then I'm always nervous before a performance of any kind and I'm I'm a great believer that it's Healthy to be so but I wasn't any more nervous than used because actually you really did have to ignore the scale of the event You know the fact that you know two and a half billion people watching the event, you know, the fact that, you know, two and a half billion

people watching on TV and, you know, 50 or 70,000 in the stadium, you just have to ignore that and just concentrate as all actors have to do on telling the story. And so that's what I was focused on. And you have to ignore the scale of the event and we managed to get through it. Jimmy in Brighton, age 17, dear Mark Simon and Rowan, I've never emailed before, but when I saw the opportunities to ask a question to one of my favorite British actors, I knew I had to jump at the opportunity.

I've been recently watching all the Bond movies at the cinema and was wondering how you think, never say never again, has aged nearly 40 years later, and what you think of the Bond franchise today. Okay, good question. I haven't seen, and never say never again, the film I was in for about 40 years. So, all I remember about it was I did think my performance was a bit second rate, I thought. And I mean, not truthfully, I thought it was a bit more of a caricature than a character.

He was sort of, he was supposed to be the British attache in the Bahamas. And, oh, I don't like looking at what I did, I'm afraid. But what I do remember, the pleasant memory about it was sitting in a first-class cabin on the British Airways flight to the Bahamas from London Heathrow in 1982. Was it 1983? It was a long time ago when the movie was made. And thinking, of course, this is what I always thought show business was going to be about. It was sitting in a first class cabin going to the Bahamas to play a part in a James Bond movie. Was it Sean Connery?

I was at Sean Connery. Yes, exactly. Yeah, the real and original. I should say that that is not dissimilar to Michael Cain's tale of signing up for Jaws for the revenge on the basis that he opened the script and it said, we open the Bahamas. And he went, yep. Okay, fine. Oh, good.

Oh, well, Michael and I always, we always can pen, though, it's something that is. Tim, age 23, I don't know why he tells me he's age, anyway. It's just the people aging themselves, they're now. Hi, Rowan, I remember hearing during a TV special celebrating the 30th anniversary Mr. Bean that yourself and Richard were, Richard Curtis, I mean, we're looking at returning to the character as an older Mr. Bean. Are there any more developments in this project? And if not, thanks for the laughter you made my childhood and adulthood very enjoyable.

Well, thank you very much for your appreciation and nice thoughts. There are no plans at the moment. I think maybe it was, it was simply because we quite liked the title Old Bean. And we thought, well, that's a starting point. It's a so maybe. But I, I mean, good thing, yeah, I've always seen Mr. Bean as a kind of fairly, you know, age-less kind of guy who always has, you know, black hair and I sort of want a cartoon-like existence. So the idea of him becoming a different age or having a different look is not immediately appealing.

But at the same time, his outlook is pretty, you know, it pretty silly and it's funny and his selfishness and his anarchy and his oddness could I suppose be translated into almost any age. So, you know, I never say never. Of course, never say never again. Simon Brock, who doesn't give me his age, a bit of a miss, step there. I saw Rowan's fabulous live show back in the 80s. Is there any prospect of him returning to the stage? Actually, and inspired by that question, I listened to your live in Belfast album last night. And Mark and I, in the habit, the way old guys do Python sketches, and we were going through from that live show where you play the devil and the list of people who you've welcomed to hell,

fornicators, Americans, atheist, Christians, people have watched life of Brian. As a comedy album, it's fantastic. It is still, it's stood the test of time enormously well. Yeah, I'm pleased and I'm slightly surprised to hear you say that. Because actually we were planning to do a kind of a revivalist live show, which we were going to be doing actually in the new

year, early 2023. And then for some reason I just kind of went off the idea, I certainly wasn't sure, you know, would, would, would, would COVID or the return of COVID allow us to do it. But the idea is still there sort of festering, the idea of doing a sort of old new, abhorrid and blue kind of live sketch show. And I think there would still be the audience for it. And sketch is a fun, and we've got some good old ones there. And things like the devil sketch is quite good because you can adapt it for the times in which you're in.

It reminded me of I've got a little list, the Gilbert and Sullivan. Oh, yes. Very easy to upgrade. Exactly. It's very easy to chop and change. But so as I say, there is a vague plan, but it hasn't been realised yet to do another live show. May I all be briefly throwing a personal thing here,

which is on the subject of the devil. Many years ago, in a previous century, my mother and I were living together and some bad stuff had happened and we were both feeling fairly miserable. And we sat down and on the television, we watched you doing the, you know, welcome to Hell's Sketch. My mother and I were both brought up as Methodists and we cried with laughter. I will always remember that sketch fondly as one of the best memories I have of my mum, literally weeping with laughter over that sketch. And the joy of it was that, you know, obviously, we're literally different generations and it was

a particularly difficult time. And we'll always remember my mum laughing like there was no tomorrow watching that and for that thank you very much Ron. Well thank you and thank you for saying that that's great I mean you do occasionally come across I mean they say that laughter you know is the best therapy and you know the therapeutic value of what you do you know sometimes it does come you know you do realize it sometimes and that's very, very good to hear. I'm very, very pleased. I just want to play a couple of clips from two movies that you've been in, just because

it would be, I just, they're kind of iconic moments, but also it would just be lovely to hear your thoughts. The first is ingrained in most people's memories, I think, is from love actually. This is you serving Alan Rickman in the department store. Looking for anything in particular, sir? Yes, I'm... That's not necessarily how much is it? It's 270 pounds. Or I'll have it.

Lovely. Would you like it? Gift wrapped. Yes, yes, no. Lovely. Let me just pop it in the box. There. Look, could we be quite quick? Certainly, sir.

Ready in the flashiest of flashes. There. It's great. Not quite finished. Look, I said I didn't need the bag. I just put it in my pocket. Oh, this isn't a bag, sir. Really?

This is so much more than a bag. So much more than a bag. So two things instantly off the top of that. First of all, how much do we miss Alan Rickman? What a tremendous, what a terrible loss. But also I can never hear the words gift wrapped. Ever, ever, ever after that. After that, it's good.

What do you remember of? I do. OK, what I remember, like most actors, you remember the practical side. You remember the fact that we had to shoot all night in self-ridges because we weren't allowed to close the store during the day for obvious reasons so I remember feeling very tired and Alan Rickman was really tired but it probably you know helped his performance rather than hindered it so I remember that uh yes he's such a creep isn't

the character that I play really is quite a disturbing sort of devil and weird sort of awful sort of oily charm. I mean, you can know which actually you hear as much as you would see. You know, you don't need to get the picture. So, and it's sweet when a scene, you know, stays with people. Yeah, and certainly when everyone thinks he's offered as a gift wrapped present, that's the scene that everyone is thinking of. So I think we've got time to play you one more. This is from Johnny English. The very very first one and you're trying to prove, if I remember this right, that the archbishop or the bishop is evil.

Anyway, let's hear it. Nobody's moving anywhere until I've finished with this piece of low life. Do you or do you not have tattooed on your bottom the words Jesus is coming look busy. Are you insane? Well, let's find out shall we? Go on, let's have a look. Ah! Alright, so I was wrong about the Archbishop's button.

But there's more! But not I'm afraid today. Certain, please take this man away. Are you pulling his pants down as I recall? That's correct. So why are you pulling down the archbishop's pants? Oh goodness me, I wish I could... Are we supposed to have something written on his backside? Yes, I think so, dear me.

I'm so sorry that I never, I rarely... Well fun, no, I never watch movies that I've made after I've made them, because I tend to be so involved with the post-production and the editing So I've seen them all a thousand times before they're released and and after that I never have any interest in going back to them So and of course the problem with that is that other people remember your films and indeed your TV shows much better than you do And you get people who come up to you and say things like you know Have you got a turnip? And you think, what are they talking about? Why are they asking me this

question? And of course, it's something to do with the black adder. It's something to do, I think, with a scene, which I haven't seen for 35 years. And so you try to piece it back to, and of course, people don't understand why you don't understand what they're talking about, because they are far more familiar with my... ...over than I am. Rowan, we're out of time, but thank you so much for talking to us today. Man vs B, new on Netflix, you can watch it all at once or you can split it up as you wish. Rowan, we appreciate your time very much. Thank you. Thank you both. Thank you very much indeed. Well, we've got to take three. Hello and welcome. This is Yikes. Such value.

Such value. We're moving towards hiring take six, our Accapella, gospel, sex set from America, who sang, by the way, because I played them the other day on great times. Yes, they did the backing vocals for Don Henley's New York Minute. So there's a long fade out where it goes, ooh, New York Minute like that, that's them. How's it going? Ooh, I could be in an acupeller gospel sex set

with a voice like that, don't you think? I imagine the agents are beating down the door even now. Anyway, that's for take six. We haven't got there yet. We're halfway there. This is take three for a conversation about top gun maverick. Mark and Simon Spall, everything you've asked for it to be separate from take two. So here it is. If you don't like it, it's your fault because you asked for it. David Myers in Nottingham, after viewing Top Gun Maverick twice now, it's pretty much flawless as far as big block musters go. However, I have found one glaring fault with it. Okay. And this is no spoilers here, but as the whole point is, we can do it.

Spoil, spoil, spoil, spoil. Towards the beginning of the film. Spoil, spoil, spoil. Towards the beginning of the film, presumably at the beginning of the film. At the beginning of the film. At the beginning. Because tomorrow's the beginning of the film presumably at the beginning of the beginning. At the beginning. To me, it's the foyer. Yes, that's what you're about. So now sitting down. Can I just say if you're going to pick a plot hole in something that happened before the film started? I think you're being overpicky. To anyway, David says towards the beginning of the film. When Marric is doing a bit of MOT on his classic Mustang plane, IMDB tells me

it is actually Tom Cruise's own plane. He's working in what can only be described as a pristine white shirt. He then proceeds to get oil all over it, before then changing it, no washing or shower, for another one. Who on earth does mechanical or any sort of DIY in a white t-shirt, let alone a brand new one. Tom does. I use my late father's old Rolls Royce overalls even though they're slightly too small for me. Can I give you a practical answer to that question? Yes. When I first went to Los Angeles, when I first went to Los Angeles in 1988 or something, and I was staying with Tim Polkatt and we had a band together that we were going to start, we're going to rule the world, but didn't happen.

But one of the things that happened was Tim took me to a supermarket and he said, you see this? And I said, what is it? He said, that's a packet of white t-shirts. And I said, okay, what's the point? He said, look at how much it costs, like $5, and there are five of them. And I said, okay, well, he said, you don't wash them.

You literally wear them and throw them away. Jack Reachers style. Jack Reachers, of course, disastrous, terrible for the economy, terrible for the planet. Also, it may probably be made by slave labor man. Exactly, exactly. It was 1988, none of these things occurred to me. But America is the kind of country by slave labor. Exactly. Exactly. It was 1988. I'd be none of these things occurred to me, but

America is the kind of country in which people would do that in a white t-shirt because you know, what? There are five more of them. Yeah. That's true, but I suspect Tom probably just has the main handstands. That's why I highly paid very clever, talented weavers and sores and tailors, in fact, anyway, but it's an interesting point, David. No, thank you very much. So I know that you think it is better than the original. It is. Question. Goose, who gets cooked, who gets cooked, has a child, yes, with Meg Ryan. Yeah. It was Miles Tannels. Well, tell him who came in. Not in real life in today, but actually, no, Meg Ryan said very, very good casting. Yeah, but

he's too young. Why is he too young? Well, he would need to be because he sits on in the he sits on a piano. Yes, in the original one, which is 1986, 86. So one, which is 1986. 86. So that's 36 years ago. Yep. So he's got to be 36. Well, 38, because he's not Neil when he's sitting on the piano.

No, that's okay. So nearly in his 40s. So how old is Marcella? Well, his character looks like 25. Well, hang on, should we just solve this once So, how old is Marcella? Well, his character looks like 25. Well, hang on, should we just solve this once and for all, hold on. Miles, two. So that is 35.

It's not far. I mean, what you're complaining about, the fact that Marcella is five years, I'm just thinking that whole feel is that Marcella's character is not pushing 40. That's all. Well, I think it's a movie in which youth is anything below 50, frankly, because everyone says, oh, you know, it's about aging. And you go, well, firstly, when you look at Tom Cruise, it's not about aging, it's about not aging. And secondly, that would generationally,

that makes sense because Tom Cruise is 59. Yes, he's 60 next month. So it'd be perfectly possible for somebody's child to be in the late 30s. I think it's fine. You think it's okay? It just doesn't trouble me. And as I said,

Miles Teller is 35 years old. So you know that's the only scene where, I'm bare in mind, the film 35 years old. So you know, that's it. The only scene where, I'm bare in mind, the film should have been out two years ago, shouldn't it? That is true. Much delayed. The only scene where Tom Cruise looks his age is that scene after he crashes the plane, right? The big, towards the beginning. The scene with the script off of the right stuff, and then he goes into the bar, which is absolutely ripped off of the right stuff. Right, and then he says to, he says, where am I?

Where am I, and the kid says, which is a fantastic joke, which you don't want to spoil in a review because it is such a good joke. It's like the best joke. It is a best joke. But I don't know if it's, but actually Tom, that's the, he actually,

oh yes, you're looking, you, because he's like covered in plaster and muck. Yeah. Or at least he looks his age in that one. Yeah. But then he has a wash. And then he takes his white t-shirt off and you go, oh, well, I look like that.

If I've taken off my white t-shirt, don't you? I don't really. The good lady's ceramic must be very pleased with her choice. A Val Kilmer. Val Kilmer. The Val Kilmer. Val Kilmer. The Val Kilmer. Yeah. So you tell me what you thought of that, because some people thought it was a bit clunky,

other people have found it profoundly moving. I actually found it moving. I confessed that I had heard about it in advance and was sort of suspicious of it, therefore, because, well, because of the way it had been kind of pitched, but I thought it was rather well done. And the reason it was rather well done is because they underplayed it. It would have been very easy for them to have gone completely the other way, but they underplayed it. And of course, you know, as we have said before, there's a thing about transmitting information non-verbally, which of course, for very good reason, is part of that key scene, the fact

that he's tapping things out on a... I thought it was interestingly done and I thought it was moving. I did find it moving, yeah, how about you? Yes, and Val Kilmer's had his cancer issues as well. So I wasn't quite sure, but at the time I thought, I'm not sure this is entirely right, but. Okay, because... I don't know, I don't know, It just didn't feel as though it was corrected, just sort of brought me out of the moment,

but I think actually having thought about it, and also having read more about Felt Kuma's cancer than I thought, okay, it's nicely done. Yes, and I also, and as far as I understand from the story, Tom Cruise was the person he was insistent that that would happen. And no, it felt right, it felt absolutely right.

I mean, I don't have a great affection for the first film, but I felt like it was an earned moment. Can we talk about how fabulous Jennifer Connelly is? Yes, let's do that. Isn't Jennifer Connelly fabulous? She is. It's an underwritten role, but she makes something of it. There are so many films in which Jennifer...

I mean, you remember Noah, the mad Noah film. Oh, that hustle crow, strutting around, being with all the animals. The heart, the emotional heart of Noah is Jennifer Connelly's character, because she's the one who sees that he's going mad. She's the one who sees, you know, amidst the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the rocks and the stuff and the garden, the floods and the Antony Hopkins hiding in a cave and all that stuff. She's the one

who actually sees the human heart of the story. And so often she does that thing of just managing to encompass the emotional center of something which is going off in many different directions. And the very fact that a role which essentially is there to fill a gap in the story, because it is. I mean the role that the function that her character serves is a polyfill a role. And yet somehow she manages to make it three-dimensional. And I think she does that because she's brilliant. We are going to have some more elusive accander because you are part of the vanguard because you deserve extra treats. When we spoke to elusive accander for Mavé, we thought we'd do some extra correspondence and extra conversation to go into this part

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The The The The The The The The The The The The The The The The The The The The The The The The The The the The The the The The The The The The The The The the male film Stardom from the earliest days of cinema to now, all in this show. Yeah, I mean, if it's anything, I think it's very much a marsh to film making, and then a marsh to maybe the beginning, at least, of these female characters that finally got to get on screening and not only be noticed, but really kind of make a huge mark in history. And something that I think changed the world of cinema and characters from then until now. Can I ask you something about languages when I first met you when Royal Affair was out.

And I remember you saying that you had learnt a language for the film and I had just assumed that you were speaking in your native tongue. How many languages do you speak? I was actually at a wedding of the Danish director of that film just a few weeks ago and it was nice to then go back and notice that my Danish is still okay after quite a few years. But I mean that was still a jump which wasn't that far obviously because those languages are, you know, related and then English. I wish I could say a lot more but maybe in the future. But it's an amazing, it's an amazing facility with languages.

I speak one, Simon, one and a half, one and a half. I'm trying to learn Danish, Alicia. I have... Oh you are amazing. Yes, we can sneak to dance, Sam. Well, no. I now have a Danish grandson from about a month ago, and so I'm thinking I need to be able to speak something other than saying twosentack all the time. Yeah, and it's a lot of amazing Danish films to then go back and watch and original language. Yeah, anyway, but I'm failing. Danish is a very complex. It's a very complex. I've got a couple of listening questions here. Eliza says, in Urmovep, is mirror your character?

Or is an anaggrante? It is. Scared of her sexuality. I don't think she's scared of her sexuality. I don't think she's scared of her sexuality. I just think she's in a place where she's confused, which I think goes for a lot of things at the moment in her life. I think she is not only when it comes to the love aspect of her life, but when we meet on the series,

she's kind of making a transition of, I think, she's been listening to a lot of voices in her life of what she should do and what parts she should go, what parts to take, maybe who to be with. And finally, she's, you know, realized that she needs to find her own voice and to be happy or to feel content you need to listen to herself. And I think in that transition where she is right now, she's been probably looking for love or intimacy because I think the world is an actor or where she's been, it has been quite lonely. She's just jumping

from cities and work all the time. And I think hopefully by the end of this series, she'll be able to kind of face and be true to herself. What are your own favourite roles? I mean obviously you've appeared in everything from Laura Kroft to you know, recently The Green Knight which I thought was superb. What are the roles that you yourself are most proud of? It's interesting, just the two you mentioned. I love which I got to do in this series as well. I mean, I know I have an obviously like my background. I said, dancer, but I do love characters when I get to like physically really kind of inhabit them. X-Mac and I was one of them in Greenknife. I got the chance to do that as well because it was two very distinctly different parts in one film and Laura Croft

was one too actually. I had always kind of looked up to big action films and wondered what that would be like. Get to do all those stunts and I very much Enjoy that too. So our dance and action very similar is the choreography of dancing and doing action movies the same I mean the same. I mean, yes, it's very similar because like you said you need to learn choreography Especially for things to be safe. You know, and you end up doing everything exactly the same over and over again to make sure that no one is making any mistakes. So in that sense, yeah, it is. And dance is as much to kind of be an extension of an emotion. I find at least

when I was dancing, it's still a way of telling, it's storytelling even though you don't use words and I think you can go as far as if you do a really good action scene, it should do the same. The physicality of it should be telling a story and not just be cool moves. Can I ask you a final dumbass question, which is on the subject of dancing? How much did you enjoy dancing to what I believe is called Noin and Nonsek Luftballon, but over here we call 99 Red Balloons, which is one of my favourite scenes. I very much enjoyed it, because you know, even though I don't take any classes anymore, actually, I mean, Olivier in a way made me go back

and the choreographer I'm saying this series is one of the world's best. And I don't think anyone on set knew and I was like so nervous because I don't know how I ended up being able to take this back doors and actors and end up dancing with this man. But so I did

one of my first lessons, but I haven't done that in like 15 years, but I still love a boogie. So I love that scene too. Alissa Vikander, a pleasure to speak to you. Thank you very much, Adi, for spending some time with us today. Amazing. Thank you so much. Thanks so much for having me. Thank you, Alissa. And I hope you find the little statue of Mark somewhere in the closet. I will let you know if I find it on my boxes. On the mantle piece, please. On the mantle piece, thank you. For sure. Thank you. Bye. Anyway, correspondents at Mayo and, oh no, oh, God, I'm having a mic. I put my name first. That can't happen. That can't be right. Correspondence.

It's written on the microphone. It's literally written on the microphone in front of you. I don't look at that. I can't see it. You can look at my microphone. Yeah, you can see it on that side. Can I have a microphone that says, Mayo and Kermot's take?

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have recommended various stuff. So this is Richard andeds. So therefore, this is definitely the way things become successful. One big budget, lots of advertising, that doesn't necessarily work. But if loads of people say that's obviously true. But if loads of people tell you, you really need to see this thing. Chances are, they might be right. This is the way it's going to work. Richard in Leeds. It's on a mark. First time in the new era, I've emailed you, and a newly minted subscriber. Does that make me a taker? Oh, I see. Yes.

Yeah, I guess you're okay, you're a taker. And now you also review TV shoes. TV shoes. TV shoes, that would be good. Crocodile shoes. Crocodile shoes. We could review. We could do footwear.

Could we do a footwear section? They could send this footwear You know funnily enough when this program started we did started with a quote from David and hubbings the patron saint of quality footwear So you know it all ties together. Okay. Well, we could start a new footwear feature. Anyway TV shows I thought I'd email about a show I've not stopped thinking about or talking about since I finished it last week I've not stopped thinking about or talking about since I finished it last week. Heart Stopper on Netflix is a story of teenage love and friendship at school in the UK, told through the prism of Charlie, who is openly gay, and Nick and apparently, straight rugby lead.

While the main focus of the plot is Charlie and Nick's blossoming relationship, there are several characters, sorry, several characters who are going through their own journeys and challenges, mostly from the LGBTQ plus spectrum, though not exclusively. This isn't the most hard hitting of shows, it's not it's a sin, for example, but then it's not trying to be. Its message is one of positivity, of celebrating love and queer love in all its forms and giving hope. While it is a relentlessly rose tinted in the best way view of the world and growing up, homophobia and transphobia are explored,

but the overwhelming message is to take pride and celebrate what makes you you. As a now 36 year old bisexual man, there were no shows like this when I was growing up. Little representation on screen or shows which offered up joyful visions of what it meant to be queer. The show therefore makes me both incredibly happy that it's out there and doing very well, and a little wistful that my generation didn't have this voice. A genuinely feel, heart stopper, is an important show for everyone to see, not just because of its representation, but because it's joyful and hopeful, something I think we all need right now. By the time you read this, or possibly have read it,

I should be in Italy where I plan to propose to Rob, my boyfriend, a 12 years, another celebration of love, assuming, oh, then he says, thanks for all the excellent work, which has been crossed out. Of course. Assuming the redactors lost his redacting pen, I'm afraid Richard in leads he has not, and he still continues to excise it by, can actually see through it with my special spectacles. Anyway, congratulations to you. And also to Rob, assuming he said yes. Anyway, Mark, heart stopper, available Netflix. What did you think? So, I knew nothing about this at all. It's adapted from Alessazman's, adapted by Alessazman from her graphic novel series,

slash webcomic of which I was not aware. So just to be clear, I knew nothing in advance other than it was recommended and I was told to go away and watch it. So, Joan Ocas-Charlie, who is this schoolboy who's recently come out of school, he's been having a regular snog with a fellow schoolboy called Ben, who pretends not to know him in public

and who he then discovers has probably got a girlfriend. And through happenstance, he falls in with a rugby player Nick played by Kit Connor and discovers that he's unexpectedly good at sport, which really struck a goal with me because although I wasn't unexpectedly good at sport, That doesn't have a protecting from the homophobia, the rugby team, but he is smitten. So Charlie is smitten by Nick, who's obviously straight, all of Charlie's, all of Nick's friends telling me straight. That's the sort of setup for the way the drama then progresses. Here's the thing.

The program, well firstly, it has a very good handle on the kind of the palm-swetting anxiety of writing, deleting, rewriting, sending texts whilst pretending that they don't mean anything, but in fact, the most important thing in the world. That adolescence now have to deal with, which we didn't have to deal with when we were kids, because we didn't have texts. It also got these lovely animations that I imagine tight back to the source to express feelings of love, you know, flowers and hearts and electricity between people when their hands are nearly touching, which sounds like it should be sort of co-work really, really well. Central character has a really supportive group of friends. One of whom is Elle, who is a trans woman, who's transferred to an all-girl school, who is played by Yasmin Finney, who I did not know,

who has said, it really, really, really is such a rare story that we get a trans character that doesn't delve into gender dysphoria or depression or bullying, but just the positive, the friendship, the chosen family, the moving from an all-boys school to an all-girl school, just everything that is natural about being trans is highlighted. I am just so happy to be that positive representation that we've needed for so many years. And just as I was finishing watching the program and then going online to see what I needed to know about its background, Finney has been cast as Rose in the new Doctor Who

under Russell T. Davis, who is coming back in charge. And he said, this show has been placing so many people's hearts. So to be said, no, she said, this show has been placing so many people's hearts. So to be seen as a trans actress by the legend himself, Russell has not only made my year, it's made my life, I cannot wait to begin this journey and for you all to see how Rose Blossoms get ready.

That sense of positivity is really at the heart of heart stopper. It's completely accessible. You know, there was this thing about when we started doing this podcast, would it suddenly be FITI, JETFITI and all unredacted? And you said, no, this podcast is made to be, so you can play it in the car. Yeah, for everybody. That's what we always wanted, right? Well, this is absolutely true of a heart-stopper. It's accessible, it's empowering, it's uplifting, just so full of goodness. It just

puts a smile on your face and it's well done and it's charming and it's innocent. And yet in that email, I said, you know, that feeling that I wish, the email I said, I wish I'd had this when I was young. And I thought, it's like they're thinking, well, wow, the world is so much better now than it used to be. You can only listen to that, Mark, and Marvel. It's podcasting goals, isn't it? Yeah.

I don't know. Well, it's probably silver with aspirations to become gold. Bronze. Well, now you're going too far down the tree. I think that program would never have worked through. It was called going for bronze, would it? Not really. But we've achieved it.

But you know who's also great? And the progress guy. Yes, precisely. Next up, we hear a clip from Anna's interviewer. You can hear her full interview and review of Mr Malcolm to list and take two. In the meantime, however, now you see, this is, I'm off for a Swedish back and shoulder massage in the cruise spa. But I didn't even know there was a cruise spa.

So is this, when you, okay, when they gave you keys yes, they said this is the key for the spa They didn't mean that there's a supermarket on board Because I thought I'll I've got all the food that I want I don't need to go no not that kind of spa you mink and poop Okay, well in which case I am gonna go off for a Swedish back-and-shoulder massage have you had one? No, okay, well, I'll have one and report back. I'm going to go and see Tesco's. Then you say, and we'll see you all next week.

When I was about 11, I went to... This is alongside because it's right at the end. Very quick. I went to the Phoenix East Finch Sea where they were showing a whole selection of ealing comedies. And I was standing outside, and this old bloke came up to me and he said, what are you doing? And I said, I'm just waiting to see a film. He said, which film are you waiting to see? I said, oh, the man in the white suit. And he looked at the man and the thing said, the man in the white suit.

And then it said, man in the white suit, you, Stifka, okay? You. Being an older bloke, you thought you had to make a joke. He said, well, you mind your own business then. Never understood that joke. I'm very glad you brought it up though. You're an asset to the collective. It's the new use of that word I hadn't previously encountered.

Okay, Simon and Mark, definitely are getting to the tail end of their cruise there. And I for one, I have a sauce ball for the dad jokes. I appreciate them very much. The dad jokes are the real asset to the collective there in my opinion. And they will be back next week, of course, but for now, you can hear a few minutes, just a snippet of my interview with the fabulous Zowie Ashton. To hear the full interview and the film review, make sure you subscribe to the Extra Takes.

But before we get to my chat with Zowie, the reason we're talking to Zowie this week is because she stars in the upcoming Regency of Rom com Mr. Malcolm's list, where she plays Julia Thistleway, a young woman in 19th century who is plotting her revenge against Mr. Malcolm, an in-demand bachelor played by Shopee de Risu, who has burned her affections.

So now let's get into it. You'll hear my interview with Zouy directly after this clip. If we were to present you as the perfect woman that he's looking for, present you as the perfect woman that he's looking for, and then allow him to discover that you have a list, and he does not meet the requirements on your list. Well, that would be a perfect sort of poetic justice. I don't know, it sounds rather... devious. I don't know, it sounds rather... TV-us. That was a clip from Mr. Malcolm's List,

and I am delighted to be joined by one of the stars of the film, Zawie Ashton. Thank you so much for making the time to talk to us today. How are we finding you? It's my pleasure, Anna. I'm well. Still very, very, very much feeling like, I don't want something to end, but I'm really well. I'm really glad to hear that.

Obviously we're here to talk about your new film, Mr. Malcolm's List. And let me tell you, I'm not usually a period drama fan, but I had so much fun with this film. I feel like it's breaking people. It's even the hardest of hearts it seems to be melting. Which is so lovely, you know, and I get it. It's not for everyone. You know, extreme lightness and escapism can feel almost offensive in the face of such turbulent

times occasionally. But when it hits in the right way, I feel like everyone feels this is such a kind film and, you know, that they can truly escape through it and have a great time with this ensemble. And you know what, that's exactly the thing that I had the most fun with, is seeing you and the rest of the cast as well just having so much fun with these roles. And I wanted to ask you kind of, have you, have you yourself enjoyed a period dramas and especially kind of this new era of Regency Core? The people are calling it? We love a bit of Regency Core.

It covers so many bases where a long glove is Regency Core. Do you know I was such an avid reader of Regency novels growing up and so my imagination was always extremely large when it came to imagining those worlds. And then of course you transition into watching the visual interpretations and the Hollywood takes over the BBC takes over and suddenly your imagination feels like it's not as broad as those interpretations sometimes. And so I am a fan and I am a super fan of everything that's been happening probably over the past.

I would say nearly 10 years, really there's been this movement happening. And actually for me, it kind of starts with Hamilton. And I know that's the same for our director, Emma Holy Jones. You know, that was one of the first times where I was like, oh wow, we're really going to reimagine our historical and artistic interpretations. So I'm a massive Hamilton fan and I was a huge Bridgerton fan. And so it's kind of been this bumpy journey from literature to screen, but I'm so happy that we're rejuvenating this genre. I really am.

Sorry to jump in here, but if you would like to hear my full interview with the fabulous Aoyasha, then you should be a part of the Vanguard. Make sure you subscribe to be able to listen to the full interview and the full review of Mr. Malcolm's list and tune in to this week's take two. Mark and Simon will be back next week. So for now, production management and everything else was Lily Hambley. Socials this week are by Jonathan Emieri. Studio Engineer was Jay Beale. And he's Dale is the assistant producer

and Hanatalbot is the producer. Guess researcher was Sophie Van. Thank you to everyone, and thank you for having me again. Well, I think someone's supposed to say you got the horn at that point and then that would be deemed inappropriate. Do you get seasick at all? No, it's an interesting thing. I don't get seasick. It's a good lady. The good lady professor, her indoors does. I don't. Under any circumstances? Nope. I am... and believe me, I've done the manx ferry in very high seas.

Because if you do suffer from sea sickness, I remember my brother was on some boat somewhere and he was going from shareboat, I can't remember, you know, it was like a five hour crossing of some kind. And if you are seas, it is terrible. No, it is the worst feeling in the world. Even though you know at the time that there are worst feelings in the world, that constant nausea is just, and I was caught by sickness whilst on air doing drive time a couple of weeks ago, and it never happened to me before. A little bit of motion sickness.

No, not just just sickness. Just nausea and then having to leave and go and talk to God on the big white telephone. And you never have a phrase I haven't heard before. But if you have seasickness like for days, just you want the world to open up and swallow you. So there's the thing about, there's the band with the little band, which is meant to make a difference. Obviously there are things like calms.

I always found, I'm sure this doesn't work for everybody, Guinness and Kippers. Wow, there's a big heart. Is that what you're on? Is that how you've managed to stay fine? Yep, Monks fairy Guinness and Kippers on the early crossing from Liverpool. Kippers.

Doesn't matter what the way there's like, that'll set you up at a packet in number six. That's right. From it and some lighter fuel from a dad. Oh my goodness, mate. Anyway, so the cruise then going, but one of the reasons why the cruise is going well, Mark has kept his seasick recipe to himself, Guinness and Kippers, that's all you need. So whilst we're

going to try and saw some of those and maybe book ourselves in for Pilates with Tom Huddleston, a team in Tom Hiddleston, do you know the trouble with his name is Bishop Trevor Huddleston. Yes, I interviewed once. Yes, it was a remarkable man Then Spurs had a very fine foot blur who who was called Tom Huddleston So now when you get Tom Hiddleston, I'm finding them all blending into Trevor Huddleston Tom Hiddleston, Tom Hiddleston, and Tom Hiddleston, and Tom Hiddleston, are all on the cruise together, and that's why I'm getting confused. And can I also point out that you mentioned Pilates, and I will say once again that my

favorite memory of doing News Night Review with Kirsty Walk was before we were doing the Passion of the Christ. Yes. Her going, Pontius Pilate, Pontius Pilate, Pontius Pilate, and I said, why are you doing that? And she said, because it's only auto-key, and I know I'm going to say Pontius Pilates. Exactly right. Very good. And did she?

No, she's a Pontius Pilate. So we did last week, we did the worst films of the year, and you picked your top five. Remind us what the worst film of the year was. It was by some distance more be a s. Okay. This week we're covering the autumn release preview because it is almost autumn, autumn, beginning as far as the Mettovisa concerned, September the 1st. So by the time you read this it will hear this, it may well already be autumn. Autumn. So what's on the way? Okay, so just looking ahead to stuff that is coming up to open in the autumn. Crimes of the future, which is September the 9th, which is the new chrono book feature

this played at Cannes. It is a return in parts to the body horror of yours. It shares a title, but apparently not very much. I haven't seen it yet, with the only short film, Crimes of the future. Kristen Stewart, layers to do, Vigo Mortensen, who, you know, you can currently find saving 13 lives. 13 lives. Yes. In 13 lives, who was so great in Eastern promises and history of violence.

I mean, I am always excited about a new Cronenberg film, but I'm particularly excited about this, not least because it has outraged some people, which I am really, really delighted by. Also, coming soon, on September the 16th, blonde, this is the new film by Andrew Dominic, who you'll remember directed,

the assassination of Jesse Jones by the coward Robert Ford, which is one of my favorite films of Eves. It's an adaptation of Joyce Carolotes, his historical fiction work about Marilyn Monroe with Under the Armass as the central role, Norma Jean, Marilyn Monroe. A role that variously was earmarked for Jessica Chastain, and before that, your friend named me Watts. So it's a project that's been in the offing for a long time. It premieres at Venice, the score is by Nick Cavemore and Ellis, and I just can't wait to see the film.

I've been reading about it for a while, and I'm really, really excited to see it. So that's blonde. And Andrew Dominic, I think, is a great filmmaker, but just the fact that he has a score by Nick Cavemore and Ellis, really, really sets me up. Also, on September the 16th, you'll know about this, Moon Age Day Dream.

This is Brett Morgan's documentary about Bowie, a Mayberd the Cooperation of the Bowie Estate, so apparently the archive, although again, premiered to excellent reviews, can in May. I mean, I don't know about you, but the idea of an already acclaimed Bowie doc is really exciting. Are you as big a Bowie bore as I, you love Bowie, right? Yes, but I'm not a, I'm not a bore. What's your favorite Bowie album? Er, I would probably say low. Wow. Oh, it's insane. Is that sound,

sound and vision is on that? I would say so. That's my favorite Bowie album. Sound and vision is my favorite Bowie's track of all time. So I'm sorry, I'm just genuinely steps back in amazement because I hadn't expected you got because it's not that's not the obvious choice. I'm happy to surprise. No, I'm really so low is your favorite Bowie album. As you just know, I'm just I'm just genuinely I can change the answer if you like. No, I don't want you to change the answer

Do you venture into the second side of low much because that is where we can hear the genetic roots of what was going to be the original soundtrack for the Manifold to work before they didn't they ended up not doing it okay, so sound of visions your favorite Bobby song yes Okay, well, I'm sorry. I'm just I'm just completely because I thought you were going to say like a lad in saying or diamond dogs or young Americans or station station or or you know tonight or let's dance or No, I didn't say any of those. Did say any of those you what you how do you feel about the early D-Ram Compolations, which is got all those things like you know, they're not on my list. It's great, and the London boys, when he was being... I guess they are not a bore about it. Shall I move on?

Yes. Okay. Coming up later on that, toward the end of the year, we have Guillermo del Toro Pinocchio, which I think is, I don't know whether it's officially called Guillermo del Toro Pinocchio or just Pinocchio.

So this is a stop motion animation, which you can do, I think there's trailer material for it available now. I, excuse me while I just do this, I was having breakfast with Guillermo just last month. Sorry, that was the sound of the name being dropped. And he had just finished overseeing the recording of the score in London, which was either an air or I think it was an air. And he was just off to go and do the color correction. We started talking about great adaptations of Pinocchio. I was delighted to discover that he loves

Steven Spielberg's AI, which of course is Pinocchio in everything but well, it's not actually Pinocchio but of course it is Pinocchio. And I said to him, you know, well, your Pinocchio, I was just so excited about it. What's it about? And Guillermo said, well, it's about death. And I thought, okay, I'm already super excited about a stop-motion animation of Pinocchio that Guillermo del Toro has described as being about death. And then I have to mention this because it's kind of on the way. Avatar way of water is towards the end of the year.

I think it's currently earmarked for December 17th. We are the Navi. Oh. Since the camera in his back. Oh yes, in 3D. Look at all these extra D. Is it 3D? Isn't it?

No one does 3D anymore. Come on, it's not in 3D. Well, yes. I honestly, I saw a couple of images from it, and I was instantly like, again, with the little blue things, again, with the smurf synth space. Are you excited about Avatar way of water?

Yeah, I enjoyed the first one. It was incredibly successful. Let's go with another one. Is it, is it I want to make it to the third? It's a terrible title, is it called the way, is it the way of water hang on? It's a bit like that. It's the way of water.

Well that makes it sound like that new music track. World of Water. World of Water! That one, that's what it sounds like. It's in your suite. Again, it's that time, world of, actually you know, I've just realized that if they don't use, it was a bank called new music, new realized that if they don't use, it was it with a bank called New Music.

New Music, New Music. If they don't use New Music with a, okay, with a German English, where were they from? Penge. Shept in mallets. Now I'm gonna look at the upgrade, tell me when you, because it went, well, don't water. Because you're swimming against the tide. It was like, like an early kind of computer voicething, wasn't it?

Here we go. Tony Mansfield was in charge when they come from formed in London 1977. Okay. London, okay, fine. Well, I am more looking forward to them reforming than I am to Avatar the Way of Water. The Way of Water, Water. Okay, so there the movies of water. The way of water. Water.

Okay, so there the movies to look out for as we head. Well, in the movies, you can do nothing about the fact that they are all on the way, and some of them I'm really excited about. I mean, also we've got Black Panther with color forever, which is coming on November the 11th, which, you know, be really interested to see how that's going to work.

Yep, absolutely. They're all the movies for the Mickey Mouse term. That's basically what we're saying. So we're basically all back next week, so we're looking forward to that. For now, Chin Chin, we're off to play football with the late Bishop Trevor Huddleston. you