Kevin Harvick's Happy Hour presented by NASCAR on FOX - Ty Gibbs Interview

Episode Date: April 23, 2026

Ty Gibbs delivers a powerful breakdown of his first NASCAR Cup Series win at Bristol Motor Speedway, sharing raw insights on the victory, pressure of racing in the Gibbs family, and his future goals in one of the most compelling NASCAR interviews. In this episode of Kevin Harvick’s Happy Hour, Kevin Harvick sits down with Ty Gibbs to discuss the emotions behind his breakthrough win, reflect on the impact of his late father, carrying the Gibbs family name in NASCAR, dive into his evolving relationship with crew chief Tyler Allen, and outline his ambitions for the future in the NASCAR Cup Series. 0:00 - Intro 0:25 - Ty Gibbs Joins The Show! 2:04 - Winning First Cup Race At Bristol 3:22 - Relationship With Crew Chief Tyler Allen 6:28 - Emotions After Winning At Bristol 11:12 - Pressure Of Racing In The Gibbs Family 19:11 - Goals For The Future 22:08 - Handling Outside Noise Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Free of charge. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with Eye Gaming Ontario. I lost my father. my father. If I gave me a thumbs up, she always says me like, I want to do right around one day. We don't really do that anymore. Growing up in such a competitive family, I don't call him grandpa, Joey, call him coach. So we're 131 races in, which is about in line with what everybody else is as taken to get to victory lane. How does that feel? I mean, it's been all, I mean, I guess time goes by pretty quick now. I think that's the one thing I've noticed. I mean, yeah, it definitely felt long, but also, you know, running so much in in 2022 as well with the expedited car.

And it's just been chaos. I feel like the last couple of years. So finally the win is super cool. But it's like I knew it was going to come eventually. So it was nice, though. I think that the part that people don't understand is the, I guess the step from O'Reilly to Cup, you can't explain that to a young driver. explain it to a fan and just the process and the things that go with cup racing are so drastically different that I mean unless you do it you can't explain it is that fair yeah I would say so and

I feel like you know you know looking back and especially for kids now coming up like you know if you win one or two in the races like it's saying you're not cup ready and it's not even close and I think that I think everybody needs to think about that and but also I think that it's what makes it cool when you're at the top level it's it's really hard I mean you know it takes a lot It takes everything, every little piece you could put together to win at the top level. So I think, you know, if you can stay and win Xfinity races and you don't think you're a cup ready, and I think that's probably a better decision. But obviously it changes with the financials.

But, yeah, I think that, you know, for sure, yeah, you got to be ready. You know, one or two is not going to do anything for you in Cup. So you go to Bristol and get your first cup win. That's the first time that that's been done since Kurt Busch did it in 2002. to have you ever thought about like where you thought your first cup win would would come. I know you talked after the race about, hey, it came at Bristol. This is, this is awesome. But is that where, I mean, did you think it could come anywhere?

Was there a place that you wanted it to come? Yeah, I mean, you know, we were really close to Darlington like a year ago. You know, we, I think we should have won Michigan last year. And so I think there's a couple that we know we had been really close to. But I thought we were really strong at Bristol. Every time we went, we always were in contention. And same with Darlington, too. So I mean, I would say probably both of those.

But Bristol, for me, is like basically a home track, I guess. We're so close to Bristol's not too far from where we live. And so to have that is awesome. I mean, I grew up going to Bristol. I probably spent, honestly, besides Charlotte, the most time at Bristol too. So to win there is the best place to pry it for it. I mean, I would take any win.

I would take any of them. Any win is good. Yeah, that's for sure. If it all was the same, yeah, Bristol probably for sure. But, and I look back at last fall, you were in position to win that one and had the mistake coming to Pit Road, and then you come back this year and win. Yeah, I was a torpedo. Yeah, you were torpedo.

But all the things that went with this win, and I think, you know, for me, watching this situation develop, it dropped the green flag, you go backwards, you know, you get stuck on the outside. You had a young mistake. I know, but that's the point, right? Like you made a mistake and there was basically zero emotion on the radio or anything that happened. I was a little fired up.

I know, but you get to the point where it's like, okay, it is what it is. And Tyler's been very forward in saying, hey, look forward, look out the front window. Let's take this. We've got the team. We've got everything that we need to make this go well. You know, I think is it fair to say that that started last year as you guys got your team together and your cars running fast? That didn't just start at the beginning of this year.

That started last year, wouldn't you say? Yeah, definitely. I think Tyler obviously had to go through a lot last year, but now in the position where he can he can shine and the way he's, you know, made to do it. And I think that's what it's showing. Tyler's very, you know, I feel like a lower emotion guy, which I really like. And so, you know, kind of just focusing forward, obviously, like last week. And some mistakes, I mean, in the past, you know, are if it's on the picker or my fault.

I mean, I make more mistakes than anybody does. Yeah, they're going to happen. And I make more than anybody does. So, you know, we just look forward, just keep going forward. I mean, there's not really time to waste, you know, looking and being upset. You know, we got to get some stage points and whatever to get going and get good points. So, yeah, we always, I feel like you're looking forward and just stay after it. And, you know, I think me and time are on the same page.

and I feel like we're, you know, made the work with each other. So it's been really nice. But that's the great part about this win is it wasn't like you just went out, qualified on the pole, led every lap. You had to battle through all that adversity to get to the point that you, that you were in contention at the end. So you get yourself back in position. Caution comes out with a few laps to go.

And first thing you said on the radio was, I need to keep my track position. Yeah. And nobody even questioned it. Tyler was just like, okay. Yeah. Yeah, I think I. We know we both kind of agreed on track position.

We watched Seth Traffica and next Finney race. We leave the Brent out. And I thought that that was a good decision. And I think that, you know, with the way these cup cars are now and the way the tracks were, the restarts were kind of very narrow, yeah, you had to stay out. And I think that we obviously made the right decision. And it was really close, too.

You know, if it was one more left, I think Brian would have won it. But luckily, it ended up 505. So, but, yeah, I mean, I think it was the right decision. We both were on the same page with it. So yeah, it was nice. Did you feel like the second restart, you were in a better spot than the first restart? The first restart, you were pretty vulnerable with the guys on sticker tires. Yeah, well, I didn't, so Redick made the top work and then everybody jumped up there quick.

So obviously, you know, he, he did that and I feel like I didn't, you know, nobody expected that top to come in just like that right after the restart. And so got to see that moved up. And then the bottom wasn't great for a couple laps too. And then obviously the caution came out and then Brian had tires and obviously was blistering fast on the bottom and it was just a close finish. Yeah. So you get to Victory Lane, you hold them off on the last restart.

And really from that point, I don't think a lot of us knew where it was gonna go in the celebration. So you do the burnout and you get out of your car and celebrate and what was this all about? Yeah, well, I just made sure obviously, you know, I lost my father, so let's point out of my father. So I was pointing up with my father. And then, you know, I feel like I, you know, always heard him.

You know, we're going to go win races. We're going to do it. So make sure to answer that phone and put it back down on the table. So I thought that was pretty cool, a cool tribute. And obviously, I have my whole family there. Everybody's coming up to me. And it was just awesome. You know, my cousin's on my pick crew.

He's my front changer Jackson. And he was there. My cousin Miller was there handing fuel. And he's development pick crew guy. He'll probably be killing him here shortly. I heard you yell for him after. Yeah, I did. He was sitting right there.

And so he was crying. I felt bad. I was just doing all these interviews. And so I was just really wanting to go celebrate with my guys. And so I did the corporate side for a little bit. And then I got to give the dogs around. But it was awesome. Everybody was there.

You know, got to take my mom around with me. And then, you know, it was just such a cool experience. Like, I'll never forget that. Did you have that plan? No, I didn't. Okay. No. I mean, she always wanted to do a ride.

She always says me, like, I want to do ride around one day. You know, we don't really do that anymore. So I decided to do it after I want and show the track. Does she give you any guidelines of what you couldn't do? I was just, yeah, no, not at all. I mean, we were, I told her, I was like, let's run on the banking and she's like, all right, so we ran up against the wall.

That's great. And then she's like, all right, take me down. Yeah, I was starting to rev it up and it kind of got a little loud. Yeah, those things are loud. Yeah, that was the worst part. Way too loud. When I had my kids in the right side, I'm like, all right, we need some earphones,

plug your ears because it'll blow your ears out. I feel like that with my helmet and my earbuds on anyway. Especially when they fall out. But, you know, I think it's, you talk about, all the celebration stuff. I think that the part that people don't really understand about your situation is, you know, you talk about a family business and everything that goes into it.

And I think that that celebration really gave people a lot of insight in just how close you all are, whether it's Miller, whether it's your mom, whether it's Joe. Like, it's a, like, it's as close of a family knit as I've ever been involved in. And I think that having a celebration with her and seeing your enthusiasm to run over to Joe and grab the microphone, that was probably my favorite part when he took the microphone from Jamie Little.

Any time we can get something over on Jamie Little, I'm way happy because it just, she's such a pro. And when he took that microphone from her and held it, and she was like, ah. Jamie might have been a little bit upset, but nothing was gonna come out too bad, I think of coach, so I think it's good, yeah. No, no.

But, you know, I think that's the one guy you could probably give it away to you. Yeah, if you're going to give you mic away, and she said that, I just like giving her grief. But just talk about that family unity that you guys have, and because it is pretty special. I mean, it's not every family that gets to have the unity that you guys have as a group. Yeah, you know, that's the one thing I've been, you know, growing up being very thankful for is, you know, how tight we are as a family. And obviously, the Gibbs family has been through a lot, you know, a lot of success and a lot of failure and a lot of ups and downs. and I feel like our lives.

And obviously, you know, being so tight, it just feels like it grows us all together. And, you know, we all love Jacob's racing as a passion, obviously. But, you know, besides that, we're all really close. And, you know, my grandmother, we all are in group chat. She texts all of us every day and everybody always texts back and then we're responding. Every day.

Sometimes it's some random stuff that we don't get back to. But, you know, she knows. It's going to be okay. But we're all really close. And I just, I don't know. That's just how it's always been. I think we've been through a lot. But obviously, I just think that we're always been really close.

And I don't know, I haven't seen it any differently. And I feel like very thankful for that. You know, not a lot of people get to have that. So, you know, I think that's kind of what's made me, who I am as a person. And I grew up with, you know, my cousin's side. You know, there's four boy cousins and I have two brothers. So, you know, people think, oh, I'm a prima don't have to do anything.

I mean, we grew up beating the crap out of each other every single day. I feel like I'm way tougher than they expect. So yeah, so we grew up, you know, fighting for what we had. very competitive people. And my sister's, you know, the smartest one of all of us that probably leads all of us. That's natural, though. That's natural, yeah.

I mean, not too hard. I don't think we're the brightest, but no, we are. But yeah, it's been cool. I've just grown up in just a tight-knit competitive family, always wanting to win, very competitive. And so, yeah, I always love that. And you have two brothers that play baseball, correct? Yes.

Yes. And so you raised, they play baseball, and you have, Joe kind of leading the parade on all of this, it seems, I mean, from my standpoint, and I think that Joe always comes across, very professional, always says the right things. But I feel like when I am around him, that he's one of the most competitive people

that I've ever been around in my life. Yeah. And you have to balance that with the family side of it. and the competitive grandpa and boss Joe, how hard is that just to balance the competition and everything that goes into that because it's intense and it's not Arka, it's not legend cars, it's not go cards.

I mean, we're talking the highest level of stock car racing that you can be at and it is not easy and can be very, very, very, it can strain a relationship, I guess, the best way to put it, but it doesn't ever seem like that's the case. No, I mean, yeah, obviously you're going to have arguments and, you know, talk and all of that, but we're all figuring out for one thing. You know, we all respectfully respect each other and we do it for to go win races.

You have to have hard talks and stuff like that. And I think people don't realize that. But also growing up in such a competitive family, I mean, my two brothers are bigger and they've made it all in their own. Everybody and my family's made it all in their own, and they just, you know, grinded it out and been super incompetent. You know, my grandfather came from completely nothing, and same with my mother. And so, you know, it's always been a fighting way. You know, I've been fighting, you know, my whole life to be in the position I'm in as well. So we've just been super competitive and grew up in that environment.

And I think that's very healthy. Obviously at times it can be stressful and stuff like that. But I think you have to have that. And, you know, very fortunate to grow up in that. And, yeah, coach is just, you know, after it every single day. I don't call him Grandpa, Joe, we call him Coach. And, yeah, I don't think people understand that and probably should put more respect on his name for the things he's done. But, yeah, I mean, he's at every competition meeting, figuring out what we've got to do to get better.

All of our teammates are in here. We all are all after it. So, you know, I think that, you know, I have obviously a family relationship with my grandfather, but we're around racing so much. I feel like my relationship is not much different than my teammates is all with coach as well. So we're just all after it, all wanting to go win races every single day. I mean, I've known that since the day one, and I've watched it growing up as well. So we all have, not just me, you know, my cousins and my brothers and sisters watched that as well growing up.

So it's been a lot of fun. I think it's healthy. I think you've got to grow up that environment, especially. You know, nowadays, everything's at the top level of pro sports and NASCAR and anything in life is hard to do. And so you have to grow up in that environment. Who is more competitive, Coy or Joe? We're more intense. I don't know.

Who's more intense? More intense was my dad for sure. 100% more intense. You know, coach is always a great spirit, but just a hard, gnarly guy. And my dad was as well,

but very intense too. So, you know, I look back in my life and, you know, cup races and championships or cup race

and championships I've won. And nothing is more stressful and more intense than racing bicycles when I was younger. And I think that, you know, is that where it started?

Is that the first thing you race? Yeah, the first thing race was bicycles. And so that was by far more intense than any cup race or any Xfinity race I've won in championship one. Nothing beats that at all. I think that's what's set me up for my career. But people think it's intense and we can talk down

in the media to me or whatever. But nothing's more intense than that would ever be. And I don't think that any of them could stand it at all either. Now the bike racing that you did, it was just start on the top of the ramp, shoot down the ramp, do all the little jumps and things like that. Yeah, like racing BMX. So yeah, my dad grew up in Seller, California, and that was obviously a big thing. And had the Supercross team and motorcross team as well.

I think if my mom never said no, I probably would be doing that. But thankfully she said, yeah, any motorcross or anything, yeah, indoors or outdoors. So I think if she didn't say no, I probably would be doing that, which thankfully she said no, but I still love watching it. And then I grew up racing bicycles, BMX, and I moved to mountain bikes and road bikes and race that for a couple of years. And I just got in the go-karts and went racing ever since. So you started in carts?

Who'd you race against in carts? Carts, I mean. Your generation. Yeah, like my generation. Brent. A lot of Brent crews a little bit. Yeah, go-carts, we've spent cruise Brent Cruz. Just a lot of guys now that have eventually made it to the top.

But I think it's cool seeing everybody, you know, goes to the top with me. But I think nothing's taught me more in my life than bikes have. I think bikes are like, if I didn't have bikes, I would not be the person who I am today. Yeah. Yeah. And hands down, like, that's the honest truth. If I did not have anything great-price bikes.

And why do you think that is? I just think that, you know, growing up, racing bikes, being, racing row bikes and not bikes is the most, the gnarliest and most intense thing you can do. I would never talk that. I mean, ride every single day being young. And I think it just taught me so much in my life and how to take on pressure and how to handle pressure while under physical stress.

And I think that you have to have that the top level, and especially in NASCAR. And yeah, I think that it's, I think that it's just taught me so much in my life. I truthfully, if I did not grow up racing that, I would not be aware I'm at all. So who was the coach? I had a lot of coaches, a lot of great people around me.

Now I have Justin Brayton and Johnny O'Meara and they're very helpful for me, but. But at that time, was it your dad? My dad, yeah, my dad was the big part of it. Yeah, my dad was my mechanic. He was the mechanic on the bike too. So, you know, my bikes were always in the super cross shop. They're always working.

My dad loved working on them as a hobby. And we went racing and, you know, went racing, and then mountain bike nationals and everything. So growing up, I just wanted to, I was gonna go, you know, one of the race motorcross that wasn't gonna happen. I wanted to go race bikes and I wanted to be a part of the Tour of France. I wanted to do all of it. I loved it so much, yeah.

It's still such a hobby for me. I think that's my backup plan. Yeah, I'm a little late on it, but I'd still go for it. So you spend a lot of time on your road bike. I do, my mountain bike primarily right now, but yeah, I do, I love it so much, yeah. So you can ride every day, I love it. So you go from, you go from BMX racing,

dabbled in carts, I went from BMX racing and I went to race mountain bikes and road bikes. I did that prior for all for like eight years and then I went and race go-karts. So how old were you when you started carting? 13 or... Oh wow. So I was a little late. You were a little late.

I was, yeah. And once you started racing carts, what happened from there? Did you spend a lot of time in the shop? Did you, were you around the cup teams and teams at that time? How did that go once you kind of got the bug to go on four wheels? Yeah. So I grew up racing. go-karts and I was like 13. You know, that's something I wanted to do. And no pressure behind that.

I just really wanted to do it. Me and my cousin Jason did for a little bit. And so we just would show up and race. And I don't think that they really wanted us to start racing. And then I just stuck with it. And yeah, ended up getting into late models. And, you know, at the time, I was homeschool. So I would do my school and then be at the shop all day. And then had like little jobs the shop, you know, taking, wiring out of race cars. And obviously there's great stories, too, people about that. But yeah, I spent a lot of with the shop working from, you know, cleaning race cars coming in on tear down and in the truck bay and then working my way up. So I got a great foundation of that and kind of

understand how things work and then, you know, race late models for three or four years and went in the race ARCA and started testing ARCA and then race ARCA and then moved up Hick's Fendi and then obviously non-cups. It's been probably eight years of seven or eight years of just like a very fast transition and now I'm here. Time goes by really fast. Really fast. You're getting old. I am. I feel like I'm getting, I am getting all nice. I see these kids coming out. I thought I was like never going to get old. I mean, I'm not old. It's going to be a while until you get to half my age.

But that's the way that goes. Oh, man. Yeah. So you win your first cup race. You won your very first O'Reilly Series race. You won the ARCA championship. So now you get that first one out of the way. So what are the expectations now as you move forward for your cup career?

because now all the talk about the first win is over. And let me look at my notes here. You're going to really like this stat. Hopefully you just take this out of the way and crush it. But Lenny Pond was the only the last guy to win in the 54 car. Yep, I heard that. He won one race in his whole career. Obviously, that's not where you're headed.

But the 54 car, I mean, it is, it's Ty Gibbs. And it's built around what you've done to start your cup career and who you are. And you've got a great brand with Monster behind you and Joe Gibbs racing. And so you win the first race. And now you have expectations that you've built yourself and your team is on a role. What is the goal for the rest of the year? Because you win a race. And the part that people don't understand, a lot of these guys win a race.

And then they're like, I want a race. and now I can just, I'm a cup driver and I can move on. Do you put more pressure on yourself to go out and win another one? Or do you focus? Where are you at mentally with that? Yeah, for me, I think it's always stayed the same. And for me, it was just to go try to win every race I could possibly be enter in. And if I can't finish best I can, and that's kind of how it's always been.

Because you're going to lose way more than you win. 100%. And I feel like that's, you know, I think losing obviously teaches you a lot. And so I think, you know, just stay after it. I don't really have goals or expectations. I just want to win all the races. And if I can't, then it's best I can. I mean, I don't think that there's a better option than that.

So I just go from it from there. I don't put too much pressure. I mean, I put, obviously, all my pressure comes from myself. But I just enjoy the racing. So I just go out there and try to do the best I can and smash them every week. But if I can, then I always get always smash them. If I can, then I just finish the best I can and get as any points as I can. So you have my old car chief, Cheddar.

You have Tyler, who's been there now for, you know, I would call it a year and a half. You have, you know, some different people on your team. And the vibe that the team sends out is everybody loves Ty Gibbs and everybody loves working on the 54 car. And that is, I mean, so far the opposite of where it was a year ago. Yeah. That, I mean, it's pretty remarkable.

But the dynamic of your team, it's obviously changed. And, and, but when you get out of that car every time, I know for me, when I used to get out and I'd be madden hell, I'd get out of that four car and I'd look around and Cheddar just look at me and he'd kind of look down, he'd look up and smile and he'd say, you mad, bro? Yeah, I'm pissed. We're going to be all right. But, you know, you have these different pillars of people that are around you now. But getting out of that car and seeing him for the first time, he's got a lot of experience,

but he's also probably one of the most intensely. positive people. It's hard to put those two things together to get out of the car. But my point is, you've got all these things around you now that when you hear the chatter about everything that you have going on, it's just, you're just another race car driver and another team that is, that is competitive. And, you know, I think that the stigma of, you know, just Joe Gibbs's grandson, getting a good race car is kind of out the window now that you've won a cup race. Yeah. And that to me has to feel really good because that was kind of the last thing that they could pin on you

to say that you were given. Yeah. And now you've just kind of blown that off. So I know you don't really care about a lot of the things that people say, but it sure is nice when you just don't have to answer the questions anymore, right? Yeah, I mean, you know, and I think a lot of it's an opposite. as well. Like, you know, people think that, you know, I grew up, everything was paid for, you know, that's obviously not the case, you know. I've been fortunate. Now I've been fully funded for years, and, you know, they haven't put a dollar into me, and I mean, I can't, more than 10 years. So,

it's been cool. And I think, you know, people are going to say stuff. Obviously, people say stuff for their podcasts to kind of bring the ratings up because they're probably low. And I don't think many people listen to them, but it's been fun. Yeah. I feel like I've proved my spot. And I don't really need to prove it. I really could care less if I had to prove it or not. You know, obviously what I can do. And yeah, like I said in Phoenix, you know, the results are going to speak for themselves.

And the people are going to make false statements or make statements that are pretty whack and stuff like that. And I have proven wrong. I mean, I enjoy proven wrong. I can care less. I just enjoyed the racing part. And I feel like that's why I'm here. I just enjoyed it.

And it's been fun along the way. And yeah, it's been cool. Well, shut them up. Yeah. Well, to see the results is, and, you know, just, the click bait is easy to go through. And I think that it's fun when you get to just, when you get to just go out there and do it.

And you don't even have to say anything. It's kind of like sticking a middle finger in the air and say, yeah, yes what, people, here you go. Yeah, you can only click bait so much. You could only click bait so much. We'll run out and talk about something else. What do you think the reaction from your dad would have been? You think that would have been it?

You think that would have been it? Yeah. No, he always gave me a hug, and get a good job. Yeah. So it was good. So, you know, he was all. always very intense and you know I think that's shaped me who I am and and obviously my brothers as well my my brothers are you know two gnarly athletes and yeah they've made you

know made it happen from just high school ball and they're both you know or D1 scholarships so I think that they're I pay more attention about what they have to go through and people talk about you know we have some weird dorks talking craft about me on social media and like my brother's having to pitch in the bullpen in front of like 67 scouts and they're all over top of them and I've never seen I mean I think that's way more intense than anything I'll have to go through. And also, my other brother is a catcher and playing every week and seeing what they get through

is way more intense than what I have to. So I mean, I look at that. I think, you know, I look up to them and also my sister as well. So yeah, people can say, you know, all the social media stuff, but in person, yeah, it's not like that. You know, I feel like I don't live on it.

So I don't see hardly any of it. And people obviously in person, yeah, you have a couple guys to tell you you, suck and maybe flip you off. But that's not it's not that big of issue. I love it. A lot of the keyboard warriors. I like the haters.

I mean, yeah. I love the haters. I mean, I think it's, we always laugh at it. There's one or two guys to show up like, you know, that are going to flip you off for whatever. But like, my brother is pitching the bullpen and people are screaming at them. And I mean, I look up to that. I mean, that's way more intense than what I have to go through anytime.

So, yeah. What is the plan for the sprint car and why in the world do you go and race the sprint cars? And well, I think it's important for people to know why you go race. because it's not something that you're going to jump right into and be good at. Mm-hmm. Right? And you know that. For sure.

I mean, you can be good at it, but to be good at it week after week is pretty difficult against those guys that what's the, we've seen, I mean, we see Kyle Larson do it, but he's done it his whole life. We saw Chase Elliott do it for a while until he flipped out of his mind at the, at the Chili Bowl and hadn't seen him go back. But being comfortable in those situations where you have to go out and know you're going to be a deficit has to be hard. What's the intrigue there?

Yeah, I mean, I just enjoy racing. And I feel like for me, I don't want to just be a cup guy. I want to go race all different forms of racing and challenge myself and be good at it. I really enjoy it. I think, you know, I like at people like a Mac for Sapin does the same thing, and it's kind of moving around. And so for me, I just wanted to go race sprint cars.

I grew up with Billy Felts as a guy that kind of raised me, going racing, he grew up for racing. We always talked about it. And I grew up a little bit doing it as well. So yeah, I actually have a race tonight, so I'm gonna go do that. But I just enjoy it. I think it's cool.

You know, I think it helps me, and I think it makes me better. And I feel like I'm humble enough to get my ass kicked. I don't think these guys are humble to do it. So, you know, I don't really care about, you know, it's what it is if I'm gonna get my ass kicked. And obviously, these guys are the best at it in the world. And, you know, I might take a couple tumbles here and there,

but that's what's gonna happen. And I don't really care. And obviously there's a risk in that, but, you know, most people don't understand why. And I just really, enjoy it and just want to get good at it and keep working my craft and I think it helps me in the cup car tremendously as well and I think anything any racing is going to help so I just say after it and grind it away I think that the the biggest thing that people probably don't understand about

you is just your passion for racing is and that sprint car is a piece of that passion but it's the BMX bikes it's the you know the O'Reilly cars and winds and ARCA and now cup and you know you just the the amount of intensity and passion that you have for racing is not known by the everyday fan and even the people in the garage. And I think that is probably one of the most intriguing parts for me in getting to know you as well as I do now is just that your love of racing. So don't ever lose that. That's what got you here.

Congratulations on everything that you've done. Thank you. And do it again. I appreciate it. Thank you for all the help along the way. Yeah. The excitement of the FIFA World Cup is now streaming live on Fox One, the official English streaming platform to catch every unforgettable moment.

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