KFC Radio - Best of CCK: The Francisco Lindor Era Begins
Episode Date: January 11, 2021KFC and The Rocket talk baseball as a new era for the NY Mets begins. KFC guarantees the Mets will sign Lindor to an extension. A caller claims the Mets have already signed George SpringerYou can find... every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/kfcr
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Kevin, Kevin, Kevin, Kevin.
Oh.
Kevin.
You're just ridiculously stupid.
Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back.
Welcome, welcome, welcome.
Is this Kevin?
I know you like that.
I know you like that.
I know you like that, Zah!
It's me, right now, solo for the next, I don't know, half hour because the rocket.
He's on.
The rocket's on?
Oh, the rocket's on.
Hey, Jared, you want to talk a little baseball?
Let's talk a little baseball, Kevin.
I didn't think you were going to be ready.
I thought I was going to be all alone just celebrating.
I might have just started whipping it out, to be honest, if I was all by myself on this radio show.
Jared, let me explain something.
And to all the folks listening.
Talk dirty to me.
I have been waiting my whole life.
My whole life has been about one thing,
and that's winning the World Series.
And obviously there's still a long way to go for that.
But my whole life has basically been ruined by the fact that I live in New York.
I am a Mets fan.
I am a fan of the baseball team in New York who operates like a small market team.
It's ruined my life that I've been a small market team in a big market.
And all I've ever wanted was to behave like a New York baseball team should behave.
And that moment finally happened today.
There's been a couple moments throughout my history.
You know, they went and got Beltran for big money that one time, sure.
In that 06 era, they made moves.
They went and got Delgado in a trade.
And they brought Pedro in, and they built what they should.
And that was the one little blip on the radar.
98, I believe, was when they went and got Piazza.
You know, they've had their singular instances where they did what they should have always
done.
But with the Steve Cohen arrival, it's like it signaled that, hey, this might become the
norm.
This guy might be the type who does this shit all the time.
And within his first offseason, he fucking did it. norm. This guy might be the type who does this shit all the time. And
within his first offseason,
he fucking did it.
He got the one guy.
We've talked about Arenado.
Would be amazing, sure.
Maybe we still go get him, too. Who knows?
We've talked about Springer and Bauer.
Maybe we still go get those guys, too.
But the one guy I wanted
was Francesco Lador.
The one guy who a small market team, God bless
the Indians fans. I feel so bad for them right now.
But the one guy who was like, hey, this is a small
market team that can't afford
the big gun. So
a big market team is going to have to take
them off your hands. And for the
first time ever in my life, it's
my team. So
long way to go to taking these pieces, turning it into a real team to become a contender
and eventually win and get to the final goal.
But as far as beggars can't be choosers and as far as first steps and as far as being
happy with what I got right now, this is all I've ever wanted.
I've just wanted to be in the conversation.
I've just wanted to sit at the parents' table. I don't want to be at the
kids' table anymore. I just wanted to be
in on these deals
and these guys and
be a New York team.
And today it happened in a
major fucking way.
The one. And you know what's crazy, Jared?
I'll tell you this much.
I'm not, like, surprised.
I was surprised because at, it like one o'clock they
tweeted hey there's some rumors that this is heating up like 106 it was a done deal done but
but as far as this offseason i logically took a step back i said like like i just described
there's an there's a small market team who has to give up on a crown jewel type player there's a
new owner in town in new york who wants to make a name for himself,
has a three-year timeline to win a World Series,
needs a shortstop and a big bat.
I think it's going to happen.
Like I truly, even being the mush,
even being the pessimistic fan,
even being a Mets fan who was like,
good things don't happen to us.
Logically speaking, I was like,
I think this is going to happen.
And it fucking did.
That's crazy for me.
So, Kevin, I'm very happy for you.
Fuck you.
Congratulations.
I can already tell in your voice that you're going to try to rain on this parade.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
No, I'm not.
I'm not.
But you still have to pay him.
Who cares?
Oh, and by the way, we also just bolstered our rotation a little bit too
in one of the greatest deals ever.
Oh, and also, by the way, we didn't give up anything.
We didn't give up anything.
Rosario sucks.
Rosario, I'm so – on top of being happy about Lindor,
the weight off my shoulders of pretending like Ahmed Rosario
was finally just going to become the number one prospect that he once was,
I don't have to worry about that anymore.
And gimme Jimmy. Jimenez was a nice player, but for the caliber of player we're talking he once was. I don't have to worry about that anymore. And gimme Jimmy.
Jimenez was a nice player, but for the caliber of player we're talking about in return,
I don't give a shit.
And the fact that it also came with a pitcher who can be like a three or four,
like a back-end guy is also what we needed.
Yeah.
And Jared, you're worried about the money?
No, no, no.
I'm not worried about the money.
I'll extend him by three o'clock.
Well, they better. So I'm not saying that the Mets cannot afford to pay what Francisco Lindor wants.
I'm just saying that you just traded for one year of Francisco Lindor.
He's not your franchise shortstop right now.
If he was a one-year player, I would still be okay with that deal.
That's how bad that call is.
That's fine.
I think that there's still a chance that they extend him.
There's not a chance that they extend him?
Yeah, there's a 100% chance.
Yeah.
Oh, Kevin, please.
I know that you're excited, but don't do this to yourself.
There's a 100% chance the Mets retain Francisco Lindor.
There is not a single person.
There's no way Steve Cohen gets outbid by somebody. I mean, yeah, I guess I'll leave it at a 1% chance in case Francisco
Lindor hates New York or something, but there's no way that the Mets will be at fault for Francisco
Lindor not sticking around. You don't make this deal unless you have absolute set plans to have him be your future franchise shortstop.
I don't want you to do this to yourself.
There's a 100% chance.
Kevin.
100.
Kevin, you've been doing this for over three decades.
100.
I have not been doing this.
I have not been doing this.
I have been doing this with bum-ass loser owners.
I know, but you've been a Mets fan for over three decades.
I need you to proceed with caution.
100.
Put this on Twitter.
Clip this.
Put it on Twitter.
And at Steve Cohen so he knows this is how much faith I have in him.
And if you are a fucking loser Mets fan who already got impatient and was already chirping at my boy Uncle Stevie
and was already losing faith and already had a problem with the way he was operating,
which, by the way, he was making moves in an offseason where nobody's doing anything,
where the entire league is moving at a glacial pace.
He got you a catcher.
He signed Stroman.
And now, with fucking time to spare, he went and got Francisco Lador,
gave up nothing
really that might even preclude him from making another trade and is still very much in on george
springer you're gonna turn around and look and be like oh wait a minute i was clowning i was
talking shit about this guy who went and shored up the entire middle of my fucking field and did
it in like the most efficient way possible if you you jumped off the Steve Cohen bandwagon already,
you don't deserve to be a Mets fan anymore.
Let me just interject really quick here.
I don't think that you should be sucking Stevie Cohen's dick just yet
because trading for Francisco and door is an executive move.
It's not a backup.
If you extend Francisco and door that,
then you can,
then you can praise Steve Cohen.
Steve Cohen has nothing to do with trading for Francisco Endor.
Jared, first of all, he put this fucking front office in place.
Second of all, the fact that you are even talking like he's not going to give the money,
I mean, it's insane.
I'm not saying that the Mets won't have the best offer,
but who knows if Francisco Endor is going to want to be—
I'm just saying, I'm just trying to make it so that you don't get too far out ahead of yourself.
You're crazy.
Let's get all the way ahead of ourselves, Mets fans.
Let's go to Dan in New Jersey.
What's up, Dan?
What is up, dogs?
You.
All right, let's go.
Wait, wait, wait, real quickly. Just because I need to say this real quick,
because the universe of a New York Mets, Jets, Knicks fan
always needs to balance out somewhat.
The Jets just interviewed Marvin Lewis to be their head coach,
and it's just like when one good thing happens,
something horrible needs to happen.
Marvin fucking Lewis is your head coach.
What a joke.
Who cares?
It's all about the Mets.
Back to Dan. What do you got on Lindor, Danny?
Well, I mean, I'm the
gypsy, so don't hang up on me yet. I'm still a Giants fan.
Anyway, let's go.
I mean, to all the guys
that were chirping Steve Cohen on Twitter,
dude, I want to tell you guys
who are big fans and that you
need to look out
for what he's going to do in this future.
All right.
To all the guys that I go to frigging small ass college with in South Central
Pennsylvania, we're coming for that ass, boys.
Yeah, man.
This is the time.
Like I said, we got a long way to go to get to fucking ticker tape parades.
But this is what we've wanted for so long so soak it in and enjoy
it because it's also pretty much as sure of a thing as you can get the last time I remember
saying that was what it was about Roberto Alomar who ended up completely fucking sucking but
Francisco Lindor is as much of a lock for the performance like that you can count on as it as
it gets so you know I see the Yankee fans out there having a meltdown, Jared.
It's amazing.
And I'm going to dance on their graves a little bit because you know what?
As far as right now, we're winning the offseason.
We have to win this season and the postseason to really ever get to the pinnacle
so that you can really talk shit.
But in this town, the offseason has always been almost as much as a season
as the real regular season.
It's been as important as anything.
And we've always been the big losers of the offseason.
And right now, with the winds, the tides are changing, the vibe is changing, and we're on top of it.
Soak that in and enjoy it.
And find the nearest Yankees fan, like Taylor in Long Island, and tell him to go fuck himself, because you are now little brother.
You are now the bum-ass, broke-boy Yankees who ain't doing shit while the big boys across
town in Queens make a splash.
Kevin, I was calling to congratulate you.
You better.
You better be.
Hey, hey, hey, I'm a realistic Yankee fan. I'm not a Tommy or a Mush who is just kind of putting themselves in a corner.
You know they stink.
You know that they stink.
You know that they're a good team who can't get over the hump.
You know that they're a good team who is not constructed in a way to get over the hump
and won't be anytime soon.
You're realistic.
I know you know that.
You know that.
Brian Cashkin, all I'm saying, Brian Cashman needs to wake up.
What I'm calling in, though, is that I want to say
congratulations because you,
as a Mets fan, I think you
can now legit push the Jets
aside and never reform again.
Yes. And I think you need
to be full-time Mets.
And with
Lindor,
I think, Jared, as much as I agree with you a lot of the times,
I think you're wrong.
I think the next step, which will be, if it's not today, it's going to be tomorrow.
Or if it's not tomorrow, it's the next day.
It's going to be by this week.
We're going to sign him long term.
I'm not saying that it won't happen.
I'm just saying pump the brakes because, as of right now,
you've only traded for one year of Francisco Lindor.
Until it happens.
100% chance.
You know what, Jared?
The sun has not come up tomorrow.
Right now, it might not.
We can't say that the sun will come up tomorrow.
The sun's coming up tomorrow and Francisco Lindor is getting signed.
Facts.
I would say it has to happen soon.
It's going to happen before the season starts, no matter what.
Because, I mean, Jared, you know next year's shortstop creation class
is the best of all time with Story, Baez, Lindor, Perea, and Seager.
It's stacked.
One's going to be off the market.
Let me tell you what.
Trust me, I'd rather have Trevor Story.
He's coming to Boston. And if anything, I feel like having that many other candidates,
I don't even know if this contract is going to be that fucking crazy.
I mean, obviously, he's going to get paid.
Oh, it's going to be ridiculous.
It's going to be good, but because there are that many more options
available at the same exact time, it's not like if you're desperate for a shortstop, it has to be good, but because there are that many more options available at the same exact time,
it's not like if you're desperate for a shortstop, it has to be Lindor.
My heart goes out to the Indians fans because as a fellow loser team for so long with a shitty front office,
this is deplorable.
This is reprehensible.
This is indefensible. This is indefensible.
This is a type of move that's just like why –
I believe Jay Hayes said like I'll just be done being an Indians fan after this.
You just can't logically put your heart and soul into a team that you know is going to behave like this.
So my heart goes out because –
Jay Hayes is not one of those Indians fans that's just saying that like he means –
He'll do it.
He'll be gone.
He'll be more than happy to be an actual MLB fan than just be a fan of the league and a fan of talent a fan
of good well-run teams because you know they said uh the you know what was the famous quote
the day that we give out a 300 million dollar deal will be the day that someone else has given
out billion dollar deals correct like it's it it probably it'll be 300 you know but I just don't
think we kind of saw this with Mookie.
What was Mookie's deal?
Wasn't it, like, a little bit less than we thought?
It wasn't as, like, astronomical.
I feel like Red Sox.
He got 365.
And the Red Sox front office thought it was going to be, like, 450.
You're crazy.
It's going to be a big number.
I'm not saying we're going to get him on the cheap.
Right.
And then he ends up with 360, which is still a crazy number,
and Lindor will probably, I don't know will probably be in those threes, right?
But I'm just saying I don't think it will end up being a number where it's like the Indians were like,
kind of like, yeah, it was 500 million.
We never had a shot.
It's like you should be in on this guy for the type of number I think he's going to end up at.
And the fact that it's going to be the New York Mets instead. It's a beautiful, beautiful thing.
And I said this,
the best part, Jared and Taylor,
of the Steve Cohen era,
it will be the dynasty.
The fact that we will win multiple championships,
being World Series champions multiple times
over the next decade, that will be the best part.
The second best part, the icing on the cake,
we'll be watching you Yankee fans
have a meltdown.
Just one little tweet, before it was even a done deal,
just the tweet of, it's close, had Tommy Smokes crying in his fucking lunch
and had Marty Mush, like, his brain short-circuited.
He didn't know what to say.
The fact that the Mets, and they can play all they want.
You can play this, like, the lion doesn't concern itself with sheep sort of talk.
Like, I don't give a shit about the Mets.
It's so funny that Mets fans care about the Yankees
when Yankee fans don't care about the Mets.
You can play that card all you want.
Soon enough, it will be unavoidable.
You won't be able to say that because the Mets will just be contenders
and will be in your face.
But I know right now, even if you don't admit it,
somewhere inside of you, you're like,
oh, fuck, Steve Cohen is coming.
Lindor is here.
The tides have changed.
It's not the little brother anymore.
It's happening.
You can't stop it.
And you know, and it's happening fast.
And you know it.
And you can lie to yourself if you want.
You can lie to yourself if you want.
Oh, I'm not.
But you know it.
Yeah, you know it.
And I think a lot of Yankee fans know it. Whether or not they're admitting it, it depends on what kind yourself if you want. You can lie to yourself if you want. Oh, I'm not. But you know it. Yeah, you know it. And I think a lot of Yankee fans know it.
Whether or not they're admitting it, it depends on what kind of fan you are.
But it's here.
It's happening.
And Steve Cohen.
I would say that the Cleveland Indians fans, like you said, it's been a rough day.
But the last 18 months, they've traded away Lindork, Rasko,ger kluber and bauer so yeah so it's it's
it's it was i mean those guys were on the world series team like that's a you know it's just
that was their shot and now they're trading all these people away and i think this is a legit
fleece of the century i know he manages to be a good guy. Rosario is washed. They have the
Wolf kid.
Those are names that you're
perfectly okay giving up.
Oh my god, Mets fans should never cry
about fucking prospects
ever again. I remember I called in and recently
talked about the prospect thing.
Mets fans want to develop
a former system. It was when the Arenado
rumors were coming out.
But the fact of the matter is that you have a guy who this was the number one priority.
Become the Mets owner and then spend every dollar he has.
He hasn't even spent the dollar yet.
He hasn't even spent the real money yet.
That's the best part.
Yeah, no, I know.
But my point is that we haven't even used.
This is like in the Princess Bride when he's like, I am left-handed.
Like, we haven't even spent our money yet.
When Steve Cohen gets cooking with the wallet, then watch the fuck out.
Because I think I'm going to get to the rest of these calls here because the lines are banged out, Taylor.
Thanks for the call, though.
I feel like the next move, Jared, you follow this up.
It's a little one-two punch where you drop your dick on the table now and you just get the Springer deal done.
And you already, before you even play a game, you're a god to Mets fans.
Yes.
I mean, I'm excited for you because it's not over.
It's definitely not over.
It's just begun.
It's just begun.
It's like your offseason isn't even over.
Like, there's no way that the Mets are done like I I think I've shifted uh my prediction to
Bauer going to the Mets now and it's not even just because of the tweet that he sent out it's not
even because of that I emojis is interesting now now let me just say this you don't get to just do
that no he does I mean he's been trolling all no no, you, no, you don't get to do this. Jared, you were like, it's not happening.
Cause I talked to Trevor and I know.
I didn't fucking say that.
You absolutely did.
No, I didn't.
No, I didn't.
There's one.
Nope.
There's one team.
There's one team that I am 99.9% sure that he will not sign with.
That team is not the Mets.
Well, when we had this conversation you
heavy alluded to being like he doesn't want to be here he knows the team he wants to go to and
it's not the Mets because because I have run around telling people like I would have thought
that Trevor Bauer was a good fit and it would have made all the sense in the world but like I
know a guy was pretty close with him who seems to have conversations where it seems like it is not
a thing that's possibly happening.
He's never indicated, like, slam dunk, this is where I'm going.
I'm just going to string everyone along.
Like, at this very moment, I don't think he 100% knows where he would like to go.
Boy, again, maybe I misread or read into too much what you were saying.
I really put that out of my mind and didn't let myself get my hopes up.
If that's now back on the table, if now Jared Bauer is back as a real fucking choice.
So now here's what I said.
Now we get real cocky,
Jared.
Yeah.
Here's what I said that you probably just took too much to heart.
I said,
here are the boxes that you need to check.
I probably said,
uh,
one of the things I said was,
uh,
spring training in Arizona over Florida and the Mets are in Port St.
Lucie, which is in Florida.
So I was like, that's not a deal breaker.
I still think that he if the if everything else is right.
Like I said, he wants to be on a team that can win a World Series next year.
That could be the Mets.
He wants to be on a team that can pay him top dollar.
That's the Mets.
He wants to be on a team with other stars because he wants to market himself. He wants to be in a market where
you can be marketed. And he wants to be on a team where there are other stars for his YouTube
channel. That's the Mets. And then the only box that he didn't check was spring training in
Arizona. So like, I don't like the Arizona episode. I'm going to find this clip. Go ahead.
That's what I said.
You absolutely rained on my brain.
No, it was never even you going through your list.
It was like I've had conversations with him.
He knows where he's going.
I would never say that. And it's not about the money.
It's not about like – it was very much he's like an agent of chaos.
He can't be bought.
He doesn't want – I think it was like he didn't want to be in New York.
That's probably – Yeah. OK, so now.
Yes.
When you were saying we have Steve Cohen and he'll pay him the most money.
And I was like, that's like that's not the only factor that he's weighing.
So maybe that's what it was.
I definitely never said like he has a team picked out because he he never has.
He's never indicated that to me.
And I genuinely believe that he does not currently know where he wants to sign sign i think he's weighing all of his options and seeing everything play out like the
fact that the fact that he's waiting and now the mets have francisco and door and he tweets out
interesting with the eyeball emojis like that's part of his process like he wants to go to a team
where there are stars that are going to pay him that has a chance to win a world series that is
kind of now the met the master i, the master plan all comes together.
The Mets are one of the teams that that description fits.
Here's the rest of my wish list, okay?
Just piss off with this fucking Toronto Blue Jays nonsense
where they think they're going to be in the mix for George Springer.
You don't even have a fucking home.
You're never going to outbid Steve Cohen.
Let's just get over this little formality and sign George
Springer because we know where this is going.
Let's continue. And then once that happens,
like, Trevor, hey, your YouTube channel
is going to be popping because guess what?
We just got two of the biggest fucking stars in the game.
And also, you know
who else you're going to interview once you
sign here? Let's just go ahead and trade for
Nolan Arenado too. Let's just
get the whole left side of the infield set.
Why not? Because
in this trade for Lindor, they didn't even
touch guys like Dom Smith or
J.D. Davis or Brandon Nimmo or some of these
other names that are pretty highly coveted
and not yet exactly necessary
for the New York Mets the way they're constructed.
Let's just go get Arenado, Springer
and Bauer to round out
the offseason.
What do you fucking say, Justin in New York?
What do you say, Justin? Justin in New York.
I am so fucking pumped right now.
Yeah, baby.
I am just so fucking happy.
And you get Springer, you get Bauer.
You get Bauer after getting Carrasco, and you're fucking running DeGrom.
You got the best fucking rotation in the game.
You got Nola coming back.
You get Carrasco at the back end.
You get Bauer and DeGrom as your one-two.
Watch the fuck out.
You know what I'm worried about, Justin?
Let me tell you what I'm worried about.
If I can rain on the parade a little bit or maybe offer up the –
you know what the negative, the big negative here of what Steve Cohen's about to do
starting with Francisco Lindor and everyone else he's going to sign?
I'm worried about the expectations because if we don't win the goddamn World Series next year,
we're going to be a failure.
That's how fucking quick and efficient Steve Cohen's going to operate.
If he keeps – if he makes a couple more moves, this team is going to have to be one of the favorites to be an absolute fucking rocket ship.
I actually don't even like that.
I got worried.
I didn't like in the mid-2000s when they got too good too fast.
I'd rather them continue to build and just be like, now's our time.
But if they, I mean,
there's a lot of options still on the table that
if they even, you know, if they flirt with a couple
of them, even one of them, that's
a lineup and a rotation
that you gotta go fix the bullpen. But that
is, you know, you cannot
you cannot look the other
I mean, they are gonna be the real
fucking deal. Nate in Little Rock, what do you got on the door?
Hey, I'm a diehard Cleveland sports fan.
It is a sad, sad day.
But, you know, like the writing's been on the wall forever.
And any Cleveland sports fan who truly believed that we were actually going to resign them,
you're just fucking kidding yourselves.
And everyone's mad at the Dolans for not resigning them.
It didn't matter who it was.
It was never going to happen.
It sounds, I don't really know who we got.
It sounds like we got bent over and butt-fucked.
But, Kevin, I'm really happy for you.
I'm genuinely happy for you.
And what I'm even more happy about,
and I'm going to take a deep breath and say it,
he's not going to the goddamn Yankees.
That makes me so fucking happy.
So, Kevin, I'm happy for you, my friend.
I appreciate that.
I can root for Lindor with an open heart,
and I hope they win the World Series.
But this day was happening.
Anyone who says it wasn't happening are just fucking kidding themselves.
Cleveland's court is listening to me right now.
It was never going to fucking happen.
That's all I got.
No, yeah, thank you, man.
I appreciate it.
I mean, they flat out said it's happening.
So anybody who was like, well, maybe they might keep him, it's like, no.
They fucking told
you they weren't going to it's the Dolans
man the Dolans are they
should be thrown in jail James
Dolan with the Knicks Larry Dolan with the Indians
that family is a fucking
they are like sports owner
terrorists they hold you hostage
and it's like why do you even own
these teams if you're going to do it like this
Dolan's not James Dolan's not cheap he's just a dumb fucking asshole who meddles in it until
in to the point that it's ruined larry's i mean i do feel for you when it's like you are a small
market but you're not that small of a market it's not like you're fucking you know cleveland is a
sports town at the end of the day so i don't know why they have to operate the way they do
so fuck the dolans they should be thrown in jail and and as far as, I mean, I, I, my heart goes out, because it's like, I know what that feels like
when your ownership just won't open the wallets and do the right thing, and, uh, and I'm ha, I, I would
hope that you take solace in the fact that he's going to a place where it's like, at least we will
appreciate it, because we were just you, we were in the same boat with you, you know, a few months ago before our savior came.
Maybe one day you'll get your savior as well and just take solace in the fact that he's not going to your traditional big market teams.
In a few years, I hope that we are one of those obnoxious big market teams that people are like, oh, I hope he doesn't go to the Mets because the Mets get everybody.
That's my dream is to become a fucking asshole like that. But at the moment, we're still, you know, we're like I said, we got to believe we're
like, you know, the lame kid who got invited to the cool kids table.
We're going to the party.
We got we got invited to the party with the hot chicks in the booth.
You guys are finally getting laid.
Yeah.
And you can just be happy that we're going to get laid.
And maybe one day you'll fuck, too.
Probably not.
You'll probably just be virgins for the rest of your life as Indians fans.
But at least we get to fucking lay some pipe with Francisco Lindor.
Nick in Dallas.
Oh, no.
Yeah, Nick in Dallas.
What's up?
I'm so fired up about the Mets now.
The best part about this, though, is going to be the Yankee fans just shitting their pants.
And, like, I don't know.
They're going to be so pissed, though.
It's going to be awesome to watch
i i know that sometimes both is nick still on the line sorry i just hung up on him but i'll answer
for you so you're perfect for this question anyway do you think that yankee fans like are
actually shitting their pants like you're not in the same division yes you're in the same city
but like the mets are never going to be more popular than the Yankees. And I think it doesn't matter in terms of popularity, I guess.
But like, do you think Yankee fans will really care that much if the Mets win one?
Yeah.
So two things.
While it's like, I know what you mean.
It's like inevitable.
The Yankees will always be more popular on the grand scale.
Like in the 80s when the Mets were doing their thing, it was like a Mets town.
Now, it's never going to be wholesale orange and blue,
but if Steve Cohen has his own Steinbrenner-esque run
of decades of this shit, it will get interesting.
It will be interesting.
It will never be like a Mets town in that regard,
but we will be able to go toe-to-toe with them,
and the fan base will be loud, proud,
and we're just better baseball fans.
Now, we'll be that way if we have a dynasty of our own.
We'll probably become sellout, fair-weather fucking bandwagon fans
just like the Yankees have because every winning team has that. Do you i think there are some that will flip if there's two say say for the
next two decades right we're talking 2040 the mets win six championships over that run the yankees
win zero and they miss the playoffs and call it 43% of those seasons.
What percentage of Yankee fans do you think will flip to being like,
dude, I was a Mets fan my whole life.
What are you talking about?
There's some diehards, of course,
but there's the people in the middle who just don't really care about baseball as much
and the girls who don't care as much and the kids who are kind of like,
they haven't decided yet.
Yeah, or even the Hubs and the Tommies of the world are set, but
they haven't experienced like the Yankee way yet, you know?
No.
So the younger kids, like the generation even before them who like haven't even, the ones
who don't even remember 09, like they, there's no reason for them, as long as you're not
like a diehard baseball fan where it runs through your family and you have your own reasons to pick this team.
If you're kind of just like, well, I'm a Yankee fan because my family is,
but you know what?
They don't ever win, and they've never really done anything for me,
and like over here is the fun party.
There will be that.
It's kind of like politics.
You know, like there's the extremes, but then you've got to win the middle.
And I think the Mets can certainly flip a couple middle guys,
not only because of winning, but I think Steve Cohen's going to turn,
you know, the whole area is going to be fun.
It's going to be like going to Wrigleyville if you're a Cubs fan.
It's going to be like a baseball experience where –
From an outsider's perspective, like,
if I'm going to your college campus right now,
the Yankees party, it's all the dudes with, like,
the sweaters tied around their necks going around their backs.
Yes, yes. And then there's a crazy frat party going on project x project x is over here we're
driving cars into pools chicks are making out that party yes exactly and this is just again
the beginning where and there's no girls at the yankees party either none those dudes just
fucking losers like so they talk about how great they are but they're not actually like
there's no girls there like no one actually thinks that they're cool it's almost like they're they're
the frat brothers from like years gone by who are coming back and they're like man you should have
been here when i was in school like yeah we used to have all the bitches we used to party like the
craziest it's like yeah okay old man but you don right now. And across town over here is where the real kids are fucking going off.
I don't think they're shitting their pants.
What's happening?
I'll tell you exactly what's happening right now.
You know what?
They're getting insecure.
After the break, I will explain exactly what's happening inside the mind of a New York Yankees
fan right now.
It's Lindor Day.
Let's go.
Everybody's coming down to meet the M-E-T-S Mets of New York.
Let's go. And the clock might roll, I know You're thinking that this game is over Oh no, the play is over
New York is back
New York, Mets are back baby
The Mets are back
All because of Steve Cohen
And Francisco Lindor
The Mets
The Mets are the fun team across town
Like you said, I just got a text from Kate
Who's out in Queens
And she was like,
I'm not even going to tweet this because it seems like
a fake story. It feels like a Ruth
Conda type of thing. But she said
she's in Queens for an appointment. She
walks into the bodega
and a nurse and the bodega guy and some
big burly dudes start breaking
into a celebration, yelling and
jumping. They're all shouting into one guy's
phone, doing a selfie video,
hugging each other.
She was like, what the fuck is going on?
She hops on Twitter and she sees this news about the Mets.
So Queens is already buzzing.
Mets fans are already happy.
And Yankee fans like Avery are sitting there going,
they're lying to themselves right now being like, all right, big fucking deal.
They got one player.
Like you said, Jared, they're not shittingitting their pants they're not in the same division it's not like they were they were like
in game seven of the world series last year and this puts them over the top they have a lot of
work to do there's still a ton of space between now and even making the playoffs let alone getting
through a team like the Dodgers and all that kind of shit it's a long way to go but like i said the the the like being the king in new york
is winning the the titles is of course the most important but it was also the vibe of you know
the it was they said 27 rings but they also said like can't wait to see xyz and pinstripes those
are the two like mantras of yankee fans and that's where a lot of their confidence comes from in the sense of like,
they're never worried because they're always just going to be like, well,
if we need a pitcher, we're going to get a pitcher.
And if we lost because our bullpen was bad,
we're going to go fix our bullpen and we'll always get the big bat and we'll
always be right back at it.
And so winning the off season is like its own little like crown here in New
York. And it's always just been like no brainer.
It's going to be the Yankees.
And so right now they're not like, oh, my God, the Mets are better than us.
Oh, man, the Mets are, you know, going to win the World Series this year.
But right now they're going like, oh, fuck, shit, shit.
Like Hal and Hank really were not like, you know, their father.
And we're stuck with this Stanton contract.
And, you know, we're kind of, like, set as we're constructed,
but we can't seem to get over the hump.
And, you know, our pitching staff stinks,
and we have a lot of question marks.
And, you know, meanwhile, not—
They looked at every other starters.
None!
I mean, it's just like, Garrett Cole, see you fucking later.
That's it.
You got one guy.
Garrett Cole sucks, by the way.
I don't even know.
And not only are the Mets, you know, not only did Steve Cohen come and just bring this air of money and confidence and swagger,
now they go make a move that not only is a big splash, but A, a fucking steal.
B, fills a very important need c is like two birds with one
stone by bolstering the rotation a little bit and it's like oh wow not only was this big but
it was savvy it was efficient it was smart and they're still in on springer you got bauer now
like interested in the mix you've still got a a plethora of chips if you do want to make some
more moves you've already got a good young fucking team in place you got guys who have arrogance and
swagger like alonzo you've got guys who are quiet like assassins like mcneil you got conforto is one
of the most underrated guys in the game you got de grGrom, who is the most consummate professional and most humble fucking
greatest of all time to ever
exist.
It's...
They're either openly, like they
were out in the bullpen, being like, fuck!
Or they're sitting at home quietly
being like, shit, I wish this
wasn't the game. Who was saying fuck?
Marty was like,
he couldn't speak. He couldn't say words. Tommy just kept saying, I can't believe you guys are was saying fuck? Marty was like, He couldn't speak.
He couldn't say words.
Tommy just kept saying,
I can't believe you guys are talking about baseball on a day like this.
The American democracy is in shambles.
He was deflecting like that.
But as soon as the tweet said,
The Mets are close to a deal.
Marty quote tweeted it with,
What the fuck?
Tommy quote tweeted it saying,
Do something, Yankees.
So they can talk all they want about being like, we don't care about the Mets.
But as soon as the Mets were even mentioned as being close to doing something with a premier player,
the Yankee representatives of Barstool were like firing like, well, what's going on here?
We need to do something too.
So can you imagine if just a rumor about Lindor, which immediately became real, substantiated, and completed,
but if it's Lindor today, and let's say it's Springer tomorrow or Bauer the next day,
and then they get cooking, and then they start playing well, and then they're a contender,
and God forbid they win one, if one Lindor tweet was enough to get them being like,
what the fuck is going on, then what's going to happen if the Mets actually make real waves?
Yikes.
Yikes.
How you feeling, Avery?
What do you think?
No, I blame Hal Steinbrenner.
He's a piece of shit.
Yep.
His father's rolling in his grave.
Yep.
There's only one person to blame.
I think it's interesting because I think the fact that the Steinbrenner name just continued on,
you kind of had this false sense of security of like,
we're just going to keep doing the things that we do.
Like had they needed to sell because of that or something or a new family came in,
you would maybe be like, all right, let's hope that this guy continues what George started.
But you almost had to think that the Steinbrenner way was going to continue
because you still had Steinbrenners.
But they are just different dudes from their father.
Growing up a Yankees fan, I know everything changed the minute they built the new stadium.
Everything changed.
It does feel that way.
Yeah, it does.
You kind of can pinpoint it with it.
It just flipped over to money and an entertainment product.
We're not going to just be reckless and irrational.
And I also understand why that had to happen.
Like, I think baseball changed as well, where it's like revenue sharing came into effect,
and a lot of rules kind of changed where it wasn't just like, go buy everyone and it's going to work.
So I get it.
But also, they could have maybe stood to keep a little bit of George's flavor in the mix.
I mean, you know, if George was alive, he's signing the check for DJ LeMayhew.
He signed it two months ago.
Absolutely, 100%.
Things like that where it's just like you're nickel and diming on guys that you don't really need to.
Like LeMayhew's a pretty fucking good guy, like a lock.
You don't have to worry about it.
Just do it and be done with it.
And they're cheap.
They're kind of cheap.
It's kind of crazy.
I knew the Yankees were fucked the second,
and this ultimately did not come back to bite them in the ass,
but it did kind of plant the seed for what was to come.
The way that they handled Dylan Batances' arbitration,
when he was going through arbitration,
and it's like one of the worst things that you can do
is go through the arbitration process with one of your best players,
and at the time, Dylan Batances wasn't just one of their best relievers.
He was one of the best relievers in baseball.
And if you have to, like, for those who don't understand the arbitration process, if a player
after three years of service time is arbitration eligible, the player will submit a figure
that they think that they're worth.
The team will submit a figure that they think the player is worth.
And if they can't agree, usually teams will just meet in the middle because they're not that far
apart and then they'll sign for what's in the middle if they don't do that then they have to
go to a panel of arbiters where the team has to just say a bunch of horrible shit about the player
that has to work for you for the next three years maybe four sometimes players have four years of
arbitration so when dylan batances had to go through arbitration,
Hal Steinbrenner was like, well, he's not a closer.
It's like, dude, I understand.
The ninth inning is very important, yes.
But this dude, Dylan Batances was like,
incredible, ERA, incredible.
His whip was incredible.
This dude was literally one of the best relievers in baseball at the time.
And you're doing all this to save what?
You know, how much are you going to save?
Literally, you're talking about maybe $300,000.
Maybe.
Maybe.
That's crazy.
Yeah, like a player might, it would be like the player submits at five and the team submits at six.
And then it's like, all right, we'll give you 5.5.
Like, at most, they're talking about like 250 to 400 grand that they
were arguing over to insult your best reliever who now i mean like obviously he didn't end up being
like he didn't maintain being one of the best relievers but like if he did and when he becomes
a free agent he's gonna say fuck you guys like i'm out of and that's just and you can say like
hey that's the businessman and that's why you have, and that's why you have middlemen and shit.
But that's human nature, man, to just be like, those guys fucking stood up and argued against me to save a little bit of cash.
And that's a Wilpon-type move.
I remember the Wilpons were so notoriously, like, tight-lipped.
But there was that one, like, they did, like, an ESPN interview.
Fred Wilpon did it and was like, David Wright's a nice kid, not a superstar.
And, like, he just bashed, like like everybody on the team to kind of cover.
I think it was when the Madoff thing happened and he needed to like speak out and was kind
of just like covering his own ass on why they haven't won.
And he was, you know, talking shit about his own players.
And it's like, well, there's a surefire way to not have like your, you know, the team
have your back.
I mean, that's and yeah things like that when
when the stadium changes and the vibe changes and the money changes and the you know george changes
guess what things are gonna change how isn't just penny pinching the yankees he's penny pinching the
whole fucking community yeah fifty thousand dollars right and now he's just not fucking
paying his players could you imagine a george steinbrenner don't imagine you imagine if George Steinbrenner was around to interact with Barstool?
Shit.
Imagine that.
That would be old.
So here's Matt in New York who's going to tell me why the Yankees aren't afraid.
What do you got, you goombots?
Hey, what's up, guys?
I think it's for you to say that you know what's going on in Yankee fans' minds.
I do.
I don't think you have any idea.
I do.
I mean, I'm probably about your age, Kevin.
I'm 34, so I've seen 96 and above, so I've had a great life as a Yankee fan.
But what hurt the most were the losses when we had expectations, you know,
post-2001 have been brutal.
Once you have the highest payroll, once you get all the free agents,
if you don't come through, those losses hurt a lot more than I don't think you even know what that's like.
Yeah, I mean, I obviously have not had many expectations ever.
But that has nothing to do with your initial point.
Those are two different points.
Well, I'm just saying, you're putting yourself in the mind of a Yankee fan.
I think the Yankee fans aren't scared because we're looking at you excited
and we feel like we're looking in a mirror.
Like, oh, it's going to hit hard.
Oh, here's the thing, Matt.
You are absolutely not looking in the mirror.
You are looking in the furthest thing from a mirror.
You are looking at a team with an owner who's hungry, cocky, motivated,
and who will do nothing.
Pipe down. Pipe down.
Pipe down.
You are looking at a team who's young, hungry, motivated,
has an owner who will stop at nothing,
who has an owner who doesn't give a fuck about money,
who has an owner who's worried about his legacy and being a winner
and a fan of this city and this team who wants to leave his mark in history
versus you, a franchise that is being run for the bottom line,
that is being run based on the past instead of the future,
that is being run as a corporation and not even a sports team
that is probably the furthest thing I can think of
from Steve Cohen and the Mets right now.
All right.
I mean, listen, I guess you believe in them already,
and it seems like most of you are drinking the Kool-Aid,
and it's just, you know, you got to win on the field, though.
Sure, and that's still yet to happen.
But as far as what I was describing before of, like,
the offseason being its own competition where you can win the offseason as well,
and that's always been a Yankee thing.
And that's always what leads you to have confidence whereseason as well, and that's always been a Yankee thing.
And that's always what leads you to have confidence where it's like, all right,
even if we lost this year, we know we're going to reload, retool, bring in more reinforcements,
and be better next year. The Yankees don't get worse. They just always get better.
And there's only a finite number of free agents and resources and trade prospects and whatnot. And if you have another New York franchise that is on the same level as you as far as
money and talent and hunger and all that kind of shit, or in this case, I believe more so
than in every category, you're going to start missing out on some guys.
You're not going to be able to just like fix every problem the exact way you always want
to.
And there's going to be a different story.
And I mean, again, I wouldn't I wouldn't like, freaking out if I was a Yankee fan.
I would be thinking, like, fuck, shit, damn it.
I wish this wasn't the case.
I wish it wasn't this way.
But Kieran in Massachusetts is here to tell me why I shouldn't be happy.
Go ahead, Kieran.
Oh, Kevin Francis Clancy, I will tell you exactly why.
You can be happy, but you'll have a debt to pay.
I got to come and jump off a bridge?
Yep.
Yep.
Yep.
I know.
I know.
I got to just find this fucking bridge.
I got to find.
Thank you for reminding the world, Kieran.
I got to find this fucking bridge.
Yeah.
You got to.
I mean.
You know what I need to do is I want to jump off the Shea Bridge at
Citi Field there's this fucking bridge in the stadium that they have dubbed the Shea Bridge
I don't think I want to come there though well that's the thing and I also probably have to
register I also can't like jump I need like a fucking oh yikes like a like a like a like a
ball pit to jump you know like a safe thing to jump into I'm certainly not jumping onto the
fucking goddamn concrete I'm gonna have like a Tom segura moment like ruin my body i will not be going to
the hospital what sny just reported uh george springer wants 175 million dollars give it to him
whatever he he knows he knows that because he knows that fucking steve cohen's in the mix i
would ask for 275 if if I was George Springer.
Money ain't a thing.
Who cares?
How many years does he want?
What's the AAV look like?
$175 over what?
Seven?
Listen, if it's the difference
between $150 and $175,
when we look back on it,
$25 million is ashtray money.
All right, yeah.
He wants, I mean,
but what is $175 over six?
Because I feel like, yeah, he wants like $29 million a year. Yeah. $ right. Yeah. He wants. I mean, but what is 175 over six? Because I feel like.
Yeah.
He wants like 29 million a year.
Yeah.
29 to change.
And 150 was going to be over the same amount of years was like the original talk.
Like six, seven.
Yeah.
He wanted 150 over six, which is 25.
So, you know.
Yeah.
Listen, he's probably not.
He's definitely not worth that.
Is that crazy?
Are you going to overpay?
Sure. Maybe. Maybe you Are you going to overpay? Sure.
Maybe you get him down to $165.
What if it's $175 over $5, and then he just wants $35 million a year?
Is he worth that?
No.
Should they do that?
No.
If it's like—
It's not Jason Bay, but there are some Jason Bay vibes.
Yeah.
I agree.
And you know what?
I have full faith that if they don't pull the trigger on it,
the way that they didn't want to go to that level with Real Muto,
that they won't do it.
And I'd be okay with that.
I mean, I would rather, like, if there's one player that's like,
hey, I have this number, meet it, or go fuck yourself,
I'm not doing that with Springer.
I would do it with Real Muto.
But you've already signed McCann.
Yeah, that's, yes.
I would not let, I do not think, I would not let this,
and I do not think Steve Cohen will allow George Springer to push him around the ring.
At a negotiating table, at a business negotiation,
Steve Cohen is the real fucking deal,
whether he's talking stocks and bonds and commodities and all that shit,
or if he's talking about humans and players right now.
If it's like 175, we get him down to 167.5,
and he says it's take it or leave it,
and the Blue Jays want to fucking swoop in and give him the full 175.
They're not going to do anything stupid.
That's what I love most about it.
It feels like the Steinbrenner, the George Steinbrenner fanhood, fandom, where he's like, I just want to win.
I just want to be a winner and, like, be cocky and win it all, mixed with this business savvy.
And it feels like he keeps that shit in check and in balance.
So I have full faith that if they go for it, it's to a point where Cullen's like, yeah, that extra money doesn't bother me.
And if it does, then he'll fucking say no and walk.
You want $175? How about $165? 165 how about 175 and a half how about we do
Some player option shit how about we defer some of this
And that but if you know at the end of the
Day if it's like well we could add Springer for 25
But we don't want to give him 28 a
Year it's like well who fucking cares
You know yeah you know what
You know what's like pretty
It sounds crazy but might actually
Be a realistic scenario.
Crazy like a fox.
Hit me.
What do we got?
If, hypothetically, Trevor Bauer decides to sign with the Reds, you might be out, Kevin.
I might just get an apartment with Bauer.
Listen, if you get an apartment with Bauer, you're also
getting an apartment with me. The three of us are living together.
Okay, that's fine.
We'll get like a
penthouse somewhere in Murray Hill.
We'll be Murray Hill bros with Trevor Bauer.
Yeah, I mean, he would love
Murray Hill. He would love Murray Hill.
He would clean up.
He would clean up.
I'd show him all the spots in Murray Hill.
Hey, you want to go to a nice little fucking date spot?
I got you.
You want to go to a nice little college bar?
I got you.
I've got Joe on the line.
I believe this is fake Joe.
I think I remember.
Yeah, you like know Steve Cohen or some shit like that.
I don't want to say your real name.
Okay.
Okay.
You know my real name because, you know, it's on Instagram or whatever.
I told you two announcements in January.
It's this one and the one that was just leaked.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Are you the one that just fucking didn't come through, though, or are you a different guy?
There's another guy at DMV who said there was one guy who was...
Yeah, Springer.
You were telling me Springer was done.
It is.
Wow.
Okay.
100%.
What do you mean? It's not 100% done. It hasn't been announced.
Yes, it is.
100%. They didn't announce it before the break.
They didn't announce it when it was Christmas.
He's no longer a free agent.
He is signed by the Mets.
And nobody in baseball
knows. No, they do.
You just saw the SMY tweet.
That he wants $173 million.
That he wants $175 million.
He's getting $175 million.
Look at everything that they've done so far.
Look at all the shit that Steve Cohen has done,
and when he's toyed around with people and he's played around with the fans.
If you don't think that he's not a –
I agree that they're like a front-runner for it and still in it,
but you're saying that this is done and not announced
and that nobody in baseball knows. Nobody has leaked it.
No reporters know.
Nobody has leaked it.
George Springer hasn't said anything.
But now, so when SNY says he's looking for 175, that means someone in George Springer's camp is telling people this even though he's already signed a deal.
Yes.
I mean, that makes no sense.
I know it doesn't make any sense.
But I'm telling you it's
the honest you'll see it'll come out i told you january i told you two announcements this was the
first one i knew it but we were you know asked not to say anything because it could have fucked
it could have spooked the indians yeah i mean that none of this makes any sense we will we will
no no no but that's the thing is like there's still a very good chance that george springer
signs with the Mets,
but then for you to be like, I called it.
I think he just probably signed halfway through the month,
and it wasn't done three weeks ago.
Yes, it was.
It was done before Christmas, but because of the holiday and everything
and people traveling, they weren't able to get all that stuff done.
And so everybody is just pretending like he's still a free agent,
including George Springer and the Mets.
But nobody's pretending.
What other rumors have you heard other than the Blue Jays,
which has been around forever?
That he's still looking for a contract and talking about numbers and telling—
What's another team?
What's another team?
That's not what I'm talking about.
I'm talking about money.
George Springer and his camp are saying he's telling somebody at SNY.
I mean, what is SNY making this up?
No, SNY is telling the truth.
That's the number.
It's seven years, 175.
And that he's looking for that, but it's already happened.
They're saying, look at all of Steve Cohen's tweets.
Look at everything that he's done.
No, no, answer my question.
Answer my question.
He rolls his eyes, pulls around, and he's playing games.
Answer my question.
What's the question?
That George Springer is telling someone at SNY,
here's what I'm looking for, even though he already has a done deal.
No, I don't think Springer told SNY.
I think SNY is creating that tweet to have a little game.
So you think it's faked?
So you think SNY is faking it?
No, it's the correct number.
They're putting in words to not say it's correct until it's announced.
Okay, so it's a
organized effort by the Mets,
the front office, and the
station to pretend that
he's no longer a free agent, but float
the numbers that are already signed.
What are the biggest problems with the Wilpons?
What do you think? Besides spending money and stuff.
They were tone deaf, right?
Yeah, right.
And they didn't interact with the fans.
There was no, you know, positives or negatives.
There was no fun had.
What do you take this?
When Steve Cohen, you know, takes these things and says stupid shit
and says like, oh, you know, that's news to me,
but I'm usually the last to know and things like that.
Do you think that that's not gamesmanship?
And do you think he doesn't have a part in the SNY stuff?
I think that's very different.
I mean, he doesn't, right?
He doesn't own SNY. He wants to own it. I don't think he has control of that. I don't think he's't have a part in the SNY stuff? I think that's very different. I mean, he doesn't, right? He doesn't own SNY.
He wants to own it.
I don't think he has control of that.
I don't think he...
He's in control of the Mets, and he has control.
I don't think...
I think being coy on Twitter is very different than, like,
we've signed a player, and we all have organized a secret,
like, we're all going to pretend for the next few weeks.
It's not an organized secret where they're having meetings about it.
It's just like, you know, we're not announcing it yet.
Feel free to, you know, toy around with it.
Feel free to play around with it.
It's 175 over 7.
175 over 7 according to Fake Joe.
I believe him, yo.
I hope he's right.
I hope he's right.
I hope it's been the strangest, most unprecedented,
let's pretend that we haven't signed a player for really no good reason.
I've now joined into the Get Bauer to Queens campaign.
I'm going to try and talk him into it.
Please do.
Trev, come on, man.
Yo, listen.
You want your YouTube to pop off?
Come here and we'll do Barstool every fucking day.
You know what?
You can have a contract here as well as Steve Cohen.
Let's fucking do this.
Maybe Steve Cohen can circumvent the fucking salary cap
by just paying hundreds of millions of dollars through Barstool.
He'll just be a Barstool employee who happens to pitch.
It's Lindor.
The Lindor era has begun.
Everybody, stay high.