KFC Radio - Captain Cons on the Reality of Being in the Military vs Hollywood's Depiction - Full Interview

Episode Date: February 27, 2025

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It's another edition of KFC Radio on the Barstool Sports Network. My favorite, longest tenured, freeloading son of a bitch, Captain Kanz is here. Hang on. I just sucked. Oh, thanks, man. You're welcome. Kanz is in the building for our Thursday Barstool episode because his new show, Bold Bold American is out. Episode

one, the continuation of ZBT 2.0, the next generation. It's like Saved by the Bell of the College Years. Yes. Hopefully a little more successful. Hopefully more successful than one season. You know the one year of that? Was that really all it was? It was one season, I think

maybe 19 episodes. Bro, all of those shows though are very... You don't double me the fact, I think maybe 19 episodes. Bro, all of those shows, though, are very... You don't sound dumb to me, the fact that I question cons. If anyone knows how many seasons Saved by the Bell of the College Years ran. I think it was one. I think it was 18 episodes. Yeah, I think. It's crazy, and I'm not making this up.

And if you want me to, I'll bring on my Amazon Prime. I'm in the midst of re-watching Saved by the Bell of the College Years. That's crazy. I don't remember what prompted that. It's like a show that was great, and then they tried to hold on to it too long, and nobody goes back and rewatches the college years. You know what it was?

When you have a Samsung TV, they're default. We're blaming the television? No, listen, listen, listen. Is this HBO? It's the fucking Japanese! People with Samsungs will know what I'm talking about. When you just turn on the TV, the default Samsung TV will just auto-play something.

And for some reason, Saved by the Bell was auto-playing. And it kind of— It gets you going. Yes. You know what? I think mine is actually a Samsung. I have like a— Samsung is South Korean.

I just double-checked that. I wasn't sure well because you know i know the japanese are upset it doesn't sound like either i said it i wasn't about to challenge you yeah yeah and then no south korean well everything's made in uh the uh my default i don't have like cable but i have some sort of like samsung tv yes right yeah and there's one channel that is Baywatch. Yeah. Just Baywatch.

Yes. And it was like defaulting to that channel for a while. There's another one that is constantly Dawson's Creek, and it just always kind of pops on, and all of a sudden I'll find myself watching like a full episode of Baywatch. That's exactly what happened, because otherwise, yes, why would I go back and watch Shade by the Bell at college here

is it just them in like the same game yes some new people the title tells you yeah did you guys ever watch that is that too old

no I think that was kind of too old would you no would you even know the names that was like I watched it well not that they were

ever watching when they were kids but like would you even know about it like do you know Zack Morris? You know Slater, right? Isn't Topanga one of them? No, you dumb bitch Also, speaking of Topanga

You saw that this week? Big beef Dude, the 40 and Over crowd was popping about that Bonnie Blue just broke the camel's back. I fucking hate that bitch. Yeah. I hate her. It was the same thing. It was like last week when everyone was like, she's pregnant.

No, she's not. No, she's not. I don't think we talked about this on the spin zone. And if she is pregnant, she will not be pregnant for long. I know. I think she actually posted. The baby's not getting carried to term. No, while she was still faking it, I'm pretty sure she posted something that said like,

solution incoming or something like that. Yeah. Like, you know. While she was still faking it I'm pretty sure she posted something that said like Solution incoming Or something like that I'm about to take care of this Why she's making I'm sure millions of dollars Selling her body You don't want to be pregnant at that point You're making pretty good bank Did you hear what she said it was?

I can't believe the internet even let her get Well the internet let her get away with everything So what's the difference She said I'm not pregnant I can't believe the internet even let her get, well, you know, let's let her get away with everything. So what's the difference? But, uh, she said, I'm not pregnant. And, but I said all this to raise awareness and all the extra money I made in the

last couple of days from this announcement, I will be donating to someone to go on their IVF journey, which was just 50,000%. A bunch of people were like, Hey, you're an asshole for joking around about pregnancy. They're right. Who get, who struck, you know, all that shit. But also like, fuck those people. Totally.

Totally. But that, that was her pregnancy. Some people have a hard time getting pregnant. Yo, I get gang bang. Do you think I give a fuck about that? She, she was on a podcast. She was just like talking about how she just did a, um, a fan. She fucks her fans.

And the guy was like, Oh, so you like actually fuck your fans. And he was like, she was like, yeah how she just did a um a fan she fucks her fans and the guy was like oh so you like actually fuck your fans and he was like she was like yeah i just did a all anal gangbang with 50 fans i was like you are just like it takes a lot for me to give pause and i was like you just let 50 strange fans fuck you in the ass that is crazy there's too many people what does it say about those i'll say it's too many people. What does it say about those 52? I'll say it. It's too many people. We did a rundown. I think it was right after she announced her pregnancy. And I was like, look, I love pornography. I love sex.

A thousand people is too many. It's disgusting. It's far too many. Look, all four women. Empowerment. Do whatever the fuck you want to do. I don't really give a shit. But if you're asking my opinion, that's fucking gross.

Bro, there are people when they do these hypotheticals you know they're like would you be like the fourth guy and someone was 1057 that is that is truly like and i i actually try not to talk about her because i'm like i i i draw the line this is where i draw the line it's not even about the porn it's about like i i don't like you're you're just like it's lazy you's about like, I don't like, you're just like, it's lazy. You know what I mean? Like you're just making up lies and doing the shock value shit.

I guess it's not lazy because she's earning it, but I know. It's working. But I'm like, that's what I'm like. I'm almost, I'm not mad at her.

It's like, hate the player, hate the game. I'm mad at the internet for being like, what about you? What about you, Blue?

Yes. What we've become. What we allow to happen. The few times I do talk about it all my all my feedback is like stop talking about this girl so there are people

that is you know a vocal point of it but it's like Sophia Franklin just came out and was like I'm not even like really that sexual of a person I just like sex sells

yeah I've always heard that she was like I've probably like had sex with like five people I don't believe that I think the truth is somewhere in the middle

but I remember hearing, you know, when they were here, we would hear rumors kind of about that. Oh, really? I don't think I knew that. Yeah, well,

remember there was the whole mill fire thing? Did you try to bang Spider? That's a lot. That's a lot of fucking, that's pretty out there for someone who's not fucking much.

I'll fuck 21-year-old Spider, but I only have five bodies In my fucking Shout out to spider For turning that dick up That was He's a company man He was not about to

He was not risking the bag For that one But I remember hearing that Like once we found out That they had a writer And all that A lot of the talk was like I think a lot of this stuff

Is Yeah yeah yeah And there was a couple topics They had a writer Yeah Milfunter That guy Milfunter Oh right okay Is his name Muj Muj was his real name But he went by Milfunter He wore a mask and there was a couple topics they had a writer? yeah Milt Funter that guy Milt Funter oh right okay

Muge was his real name but he went by Milt Funter he wore a mask he was just like writing like basically an erotica for them which was pretty fucking weird

dude just you write penthouse letters and just have hot girls read them yeah basically I mean I remember the few topics I did listen to

I remember being like that's not how that goes. Like, that's your, it's like your Wikipedia, like, sex, and we're talking about it. But what do you think about Alex Earl in that drama? I was just going to say, so is that, I don't, is it true? That what? That she's leaving? Well, no, no, that she's leaving, but is she coming to Barstow?

No, no, no, no. Dave did that, like, just. That she's leaving. But is she coming to Barstow? No, no, no. No. Dave did that. Like just made the video to mimic. I thought he – I knew that he was mimicking Alex Cooper's video. If you don't know what we're talking about. So Alex Earl is kind of like I would say the new it girl. Yeah. Right?

She kind of – I think that's probably part of the issue here is I would say in some circles. I don't know how much they look alike. Well, they're both Alex. Yes. We'll talk about that in a second because I really believe their nickname is the root of all this shit. But Alex Earl signed to Alex Cooper's Unwell Media and then was there for a couple years doing her podcast Hot Mess. And then just recently got dropped from the label. They were announced all rights so she can go, like, bring hot mess wherever she wants. Now, when Grace O'Malley had her beef with Barstool or falling out with Barstool, whatever you want to call it, Alex posted a video saying the caption said, you can stop tagging me. I know what I have to do.

And it was a screenshot of her phone conversation with Grace. And then she subsequently signed her to Unwell Media. So Dave posted the same thing with the Circle of life video uh music which is funny like you know you still are the boy i'm gonna steal yours um but i so i got the joke but i thought it was i thought he made the call but he was like no i think she would be out of our price range i would just imagine the bag that she demands i just when you when you reach that point i think you just go solo right like what does she gain from the only thing I'll say, man, is it's really nice to have shit taken care of. That is a premium that I think maybe we are kind of in the minority because we got a taste of it and it's hard to go back on it.

Whereas if you've always been independent, you don't even know what it's like. But let me tell you, when it's just like flights are taken care of and logistics are taken care of and legal shit is always there if you need it and like if you get in trouble and all that it's it is nice and i'm sure it'd be like we'd be like we will take zero percent of i she would probably get a pretty sweet deal yeah yeah yes uh speaking of logistics when are you two getting assistance assistance dude i've i've put that out there before. What kind of question is that? I can't stomach the amount of money you need to pay somebody to do it. I don't know what you need an assistant for. Basically, just pay my tickets. What do you think I do every day where I would need an assistant?

He does not need an assistant. He does not need a fucking assistant. I need somebody to text me in the morning here's all the things you need to do today like yeah i got that as a calendar i know but i don't even check the account like i need someone to like tell me these things it would really be that's why i can't bring myself to do it because it would be nice but at the end of the day it would be like you just like pay my tickets and text me like updates that's not... Until you really need an assistant, I don't think you can...

I think five people in the world need an assistant. Yeah, right. Everyone else needs to just look at their phone once in a while. Right. Okay. I want to text people back. I legitimately get so much anxiety over texting. You can do shit like that, too.

I stopped caring about that. I'm actually... You know what? I've gotten really good at replying to texts when i got off my phone so much because then you get them and you go i can tell when you like you'll respond to the group chat and then me and then it's like oh john's got his phone back you both have always been very good about responding to texts though yeah well my phone rings i fucking know someone wants to talk to me so i look at it and then i

know but you say that but like you know there are plenty of people it's so aggravated i think it's so aggravating and rude when people don't respond it kind of does right when you're like one of these people that like i'm just like i'm absent-minded or i have so much going on it's like no you don't you saw the text just respond dude i like that it it blows my mind pretty completely like people here i'm like i see you you're on your phone You're tweeting All fucking day Yeah Not even like I see you

On social media Like I'm looking at you Your phone is in your hand The entire day I do understand though That like I saw it I was thinking

What I was going to say That happens Occasionally That was the Texanese conversation If it happens too often Then you gotta figure it out Right

And it's just like You're just Ignoring me now I think you're just and there's also uh there's a hierarchy to this like if dave doesn't respond to me when fucking trent doesn't respond to me i get mad like you should respond to me what the fuck so he's very open he's like yeah i just don't do it yeah yeah trent trent is i i actually did i don't put him in that category because he told you like i i i kind of i have a a different buddy just in my personal life. It was the same way.

I'm like, I know he's not going to – he doesn't do it. Right. And that's fine. Yeah. So I'll call him. But, like, that's part of it too is the responsibility of knowing how people like to communicate. So communicate with them that way. Yes.

But then there's someone who's like, well, I have – you don't want to communicate at all. Right. But we work together. So we have to talk. So we've got to do this. Yeah. Yeah. When I text Trent,

I make sure like, all right, this is really worth a text. Yeah. Whereas like I sent you that clip from Veep. Cause whenever I see it, I send you that clip from Veep. And I know I can just send you stupid stuff.

Yeah. It doesn't necessarily. I don't send him just stupid stuff. No, I love getting the stupid stuff. Yeah. Did you see that girl? She had a viral tweet, I think that said like, I don't care if i send you 100 reels i want you to reply to like

every single one of them and then she followed up being like he replied to every single one of them so i guess she was just like firing off you know meal uh reels and memes and shit and the guy went through and replied to all that's love man that's love in 2025 yes replying to your memes has to be done it's very different now i saw something recently and i obviously i know people meet That's love, man. That's love in 2025. Yes. Replying to your memes. Has to be done. It's very different now. I saw something recently, and obviously I know people meet online these days. That's very prevalent, obviously, because you just ask your friends, like, oh, how'd you meet? But I didn't realize it was as prevalent as it is.

It's like two-thirds of relationships now. Do you see that? Are you talking about, like, does that mean mean when people say that, does that mean like dating apps or like DMs? Yes. Well, I would say it encompasses all of them. I would say it encompasses DMs too probably. I would bet you that the majority is dating apps, but I also think that.

DMs is a huge factor. I mean like Instagram's a dating app in my opinion. You never hear an organic story like, oh, we were at the same bar. Oh, we got introduced by friends. Have you seen that? One of those, you know, bar charts that change over time. Yes. and it was just how people spend their time yeah i saw yeah and it went from it was just like family was number one friends was number two school work whatever yeah and now it's just on the internet everything's just online yeah it's how you spend your time online and like

i think i think the article i are the the main thing I saw was it was the death of the dinner party. Dinner parties don't exist anymore where it would just be like three or four couples. Like you come to my house and we have dinner. Nobody does that anymore. I, I, so in New York,

it's weird. Cause obviously you don't go to people's apartments really. Yeah. But like I go out to dinner a lot. Yeah. I mean, I guess that's the, the,

when we moved, we, we hosted people over because that's just an easier way to see people yeah certainly you have to plan but the idea of like hey it's friday we're just gonna like all meet up at this bar yeah as you get older like that obviously doesn't happen anymore so and my wife really likes cooking so the idea that people would come over we would make a meal and hang out right we do that i mean we're not doing that right now because she's pregnant i'm expecting my next child in august that's right

she's tired august what august 27 14 yeah you could get an early one in there dude i was supposed to be august 8th maggie was two weeks early so maybe this guy oh that would have been sick yeah that'd be cool i was a week late what'd you say I was saying Maggie came two weeks early so maybe this guy will come two weeks early maybe he'll come two weeks early yes

and then you guys can share a birthday I'm just doing the math in my head give me an hour okay but anyway I enjoy dinner parties

but what's your question Jackie do you have a name yes you don't have to say it no I don't think I'm at liberty to share it yet bro it's so funny

how much the name this motherfucker's still doing the math by the way yeah like i'm watching his brain like he's got like wrinkles in his forehead 27 27 i want to learn how to do the math where it's like you like 15th like you do that no 13th what are you i don't even know what you're trying to accomplish here. I'm just trying to take two weeks off. Of 28? Yeah, 13. Bro, that's the sevens. 14. 14, 21, 28. Tell me the 27s, which is the 13.

Yes. Jesus Christ. We got there. I told you we got there. We landed the plane. Look, I said give me an hour. I got that done in like 30 seconds. That's pretty good.

Okay. Yeah, I think that, oh, what I was going to say, the name stuff is just so funny. People treat it like you got the fucking nuclear codes you know and i get it there are people like swooping and steal names or inevitably you say a name and people go oh and it's like how the fuck why did you react like that right just lie to me like it's very strange people lose all coots when it comes to that people like oh i know kelsey who's an asshole and you're like what does that mean i knew a girl who was a slut in high school. It's like, so did I. Whatever, man.

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Nutritionally complete meals in minutes so you can focus on what really matters. We were saying something earlier when you were talking about TV. Like how stuff just auto plays. Yes. I think that was the moment in my life when I realized I'm going to shut the fuck up. What do you mean? Because I would just

scream about Netflix asking if you're still there. I was like, this is the stupidest thing of all time. This is the worst, blah, blah, blah. And then all the other streaming services came out and they all listened to us and they all had autoplay. And I hate every single one of those. And I'm like, okay, I should probably just shut the fuck up

and people do studies on stuff. Lioness autoplayed for me. And so out of all the autoplay hate I got, that made it worth it. Yeah. I had seen it, but I really probably would not have dove in unless. Are you talking about the autoplay previews? I'm talking about autoplay previews. I'm talking about autoplay.

Hulu is big time. Once the episode. Not even autoplay. Just like I like Netflix saying, are you still watching? Because when you fall asleep. Because you don't feel alone? No. Because when you fall asleep, it's like you're three seasons later.

What episode was I on? That happens to me all the time. Right. I'm in the midst of Breaking Bad for the first time right now, and I've had to go back countless times because I just fall asleep watching it. But Breaking Bad is at least on Netflix, right? Yes. So it can at most go three episodes forward. Oh, is that right?

Yeah. That's when it'll shut down. After three, it'll say, are you still watching? And then it'll stop. Okay. Whereas Hulu will play all night. Max will play all night. Prime will play all night. That's when it'll shut down. After three, it'll say, are you still watching? And then it'll stop. Whereas Hulu will play all night. Max will play all night. Prime will play all night.

I don't know what Apple does. Peacock plays all night. Those are the ones I watch. I'm sure. I don't know about the other ones. It's just so funny how much television has changed, man. Yes. It used to just be a channel and the show was on when it's on.

And now we're like, ah, the episodes keep playing. Is it cake you saw to play for me? And that show was so goddamn good. Was that it cake is it cake yeah like we don't talk about it enough for some reason also on tick on like instagram i feel like the internet exclusively talks about the cake thing jackie uh i don't but like still it's not like it's cinema it's so good yeah and also for some reason my whole instagram for you page is like somebody being like, it's a shoe, it's a shoe. And then it's cake. I knew it.

That shit. What are you watching? Are you like, do you watch shows or do you watch reality stuff? Like, do you have any scripted stuff that you like? Um, yeah.

I mean, I watch like severance. I'm gonna watch white Lotus. I just haven't had time. I'm gonna did severance. I caught up on severance last night. It's lotus i just haven't had time i'm gonna dude severance i caught up on severance last night it's so good is it i feel like i've been hearing the opposite i was on episode four i think in season two which is like the episode where they're outside with the uh it's the orpo episode like everyone's outside and i i just hadn't watched that episode

yet that's probably three episodes back and i I was kind of like, I might be done. Because it is such a chore to watch. It's dense, I guess. It's a lot to consume. And it's hard to watch. But then I watched that episode and I was like, this is fucking perfect. It's so good. I think I'm coming to a point in my life where those dense shows, slow burns, whatever you want to call it, have to be fucking awesome.

Right. Severance is. Is it there? Otherwise, I'll just go to something else. I mean, like, that episode was so funny. I don't remember Severance being that funny before. Like, that episode was. Oh, yeah.

I would never even expect that. I laughed out loud ten times. To me, I guess when you have less time, I'm like, I got to make this count. And if this was like a slow... It just needs to keep me entertained. I saw a meme that you would have appreciated. I'll try to find it,

but how Severance is just basically like working at Deloitte. I haven't watched the show, but... Well, when the concept came out, I was like, I am going to fucking love Severance is just basically like working at Deloitte I haven't watched the show but well when the concept came out I was like I am going to fucking love Severance because if you know I kind of you know almost did that in a way with the

blog and Deloitte and all that so I but I maybe it was a week to week thing I'm going to try to go back and binge it maybe if you watch it all in a row it'll be a little bit different but I remember being like this is not hitting like I thought it was going to hit and I think I'm just beyond the point of powering. I think there used to be shows where I was like, I'm not really liking this, but this is what everyone else is watching. This is what everyone else is talking about.

And now that I'm trying to do this TV content, it's like it's hard to be doing TV content right now and not talking about Severance. So I probably will have to do more of that. But if I was not to make it my work, I think I'm beyond the point of watching things that I don't really like. I'm with you on that. You know, I just like it's just I mean, people it's almost like people get embarrassed. It's like, I don't like it. I don't know. I don't watch The Sopranos.

I'm sorry. And I'm not going to cave because, you know, I used to be. I used to think like if I didn't like what was popular, I was wrong. Right. It's not wrong. It's just not like right. I don't know. For some reason, it doesn't hit right for me.

And I've also like established at least i know i know myself like when everyone's like you don't get it or like you're too dumb it's like no i get it if i really if i felt like i was not understanding something i would give that another shot i'd be like we try to figure it out if i get it and i don't like it then i don't like it that's it well you know what kevin and i i was just gonna say in the same vein like i'm out on it. Well, you know what? Kevin and I – I was just going to say, in the same vein, I'm out on so much reality television. I know you're big in watching Traders right now. That's being watched in my house.

I haven't gotten into it. Alex explained it to me like – Those are different. That's like competition in my mind. Yeah, she said it's like the challenge meets Housewives. Yes. Which, okay, I can get beyond that. I don't know, man.

I wouldn't even say housewives it's it's i mean there's it's like there's drama but it is like survivor it is like a challenge yeah like it's not as physical challenges like but it's you know it's it's gameplay it's it's it's like watching if you watch barcel survivor if you watch it's like that but even better i think yeah but my problem now with reality tv is because it's been around for so long. Like when it first came back in the, you know, real world, early days of, you know, Housewives, early days of Kardashians. When we got to like get a peek into these people's worlds that we didn't previously get to see. Now everybody has social media.

So you already get that peek. Yeah. Right? get to see now everybody has social media right so you already get that peak yeah right and i also think with people going on to and being cast onto these reality shows they go in like scripted in their heads like i'm gonna be this housewife or i'm gonna be this lane and i just don't think it's as good as it once was and we might need a reset and go away from reality tv a little bit oh that ain't happening, brother. No, it's not happening, but I'm with you.

Yeah. Well, not that I'm with you because I was never really a consumer. But, yeah, it's the same thing as, like, social media. Like, I don't know. You just be. With reality TV, I feel like either, A, the characters are assholes, and I don't like watching assholes, or, B, the point of the show is for the viewer to laugh at them, and I don't like that either.

Not to you. Like, where it's just like, hey, laugh at these fucking clowns. I don't like feeling like a voyeur watching them. Yeah, yeah. It's almost rude, yeah. That's their business. Well, again, I think a competition show is very different than a drama show. You know what I mean? Yeah. Well, like the – again, I think like a competition show is very different than like a drama show. You know what I mean?

Yeah. Just here for the drama. Like I mean Silverhouse is – imagine like everyone on that show is like 40 mostly and they're like still doing like that life. Yeah. Like there's a girl who she was engaged to one of the guys. They broke off their engagement. She got pregnant. She's now back in this summer Hamptons house with like young girls partying

while she's pregnant. And he came back to the house with his ex fiance. He was pregnant by someone else. And it's like, no one in the world would do this. Like there was a time where they were just like, this is us in the Hamptons and we're partying. And now it's like, this is our job.

This is our show. I, you know, I'm pregnant, but I got to get the check or I got to, you know, whatever it is. It's like, it's not, you couldn't pay me enough money. They better be getting banked to do that at this age. This is going to be me name dropping and I don't care because it's just relevant. So, Lindsay dated my friend Everett, who was on season one of Summer House. So like I know all like not the younger people and the newer people that have come in later seasons. Yeah.

But like Lindsay, Carl, Everett, Kyle, I know all of them. So that aspect is like a little weird, too. It's like. What's the tea? What's the tea? I don't know that i have anything right now that i feel like that guy kyle i think like owns the house and i think i mean it just becomes like a yeah it's like their version of barstool to your point yes in in the normal world would a 42 year

old married guy be doing a share house with 26 year old girls no right but i think that the reality shows that are failing right now are the ones that are trying to like fall into the similar like bachelor just tries to have the same thing and it's like okay who's our one villain of the season and then all that it's very formulaic very formulaic exactly and like everyone's so over that versus the ones that are kind of like we're just gonna throw everything and see what drama not like organically occurs but i think that's why like barstool survivor work because you have this built-in audience that is invested in all these people and knows these people so they want to watch barstool survivor that's all it is though like

that's why if you watch a summer house or you watch whatever like you just get invested in people and you just keep watching their shit yeah you know what i mean so it's like i'm sometimes hesitant to be critical of it because it's like i don't know that's that's our whole fucking gig yeah no i get that for sure yeah but like you can like i i like doing the the stuff i just don't don't want to yeah like the the uh consumption i'm more of uh actually you know what i am you know what kevin's hitting right now kevin's finally dipping into his fast and Furious era. Wow. Welcome. He's never seen the show, but he,

I'm sorry, he's never seen the movie, but Paradise, have you watched Paradise? No. It's of the Fast and Furious vein where it's all really stupid, but it's entertaining. I don't think it's as dumb

as people make it up. Kevin doesn't think it's dumb. We were talking last night. Well, that's like, we don't think Fast and Furious is dumb. But it's not like, it's not like Fast and the Furious where... It's just like Fast and the Furious.

It's really not dumb. Bro, last night you were like, I think this nuclear war actually does make sense. I do. I think so. Okay, so this is a good example. I think if there was an absolute worldwide catastrophe, war would break out. I think war would break out i think war would break out yes so i i think i think people would would feud around borders and stuff like that

but so in the show it is uh said that because people are fighting for land they're nuking everyone's just nuking each other got it and i just like i was like well that doesn't really make any sense because you're fighting for land why would you destroy it well but i also think i think it's more just like the the planet is about to be absolutely eradicated and you know the bad guys are firing nukes yeah i don't think that's something that would happen in fast and furious i guess so i think that would happen in the real world it may be if a joint chief is telling me this is what we do then i listen if we're just all here sitting and speculating i don't think we would not i'm just saying if there was ever a time it would, the entire world is about

to be eradicated. But why would you shoot nukes then? Well, I mean, yeah, I think, you know, you're still trying to, like, control the last viable land or whatever. I think the show needed them, basically, again, this is kind of fast-forward style, we're like, the show

needs them in the mountain. A tsunami doesn't get you in the mountain. So you've got to just make up a cockamamie idea for why there's a nuclear attack. Which is all, again, I'm with it. It's Fast and Furious style. I just don't think, I think there are apocalypse scenarios

of nuclear war or a natural disaster. Whereas in Fast and Furious, when you have a bomb being pulled by a car like rocking through the city like they like they come up with I think more far-fetched ideas than like I think nuclear war is a possibility I think natural disaster is a possibility

it's a positive but like the fact that like so it's one of those shows and this is Fast and Furious right Expendables shows that are better if you picture it as someone on cocaine is telling you the story. It's like, all right,

so there's a huge fucking tsunami. Dang, they're showing nukes everywhere. You're like, yeah, this is fucking crazy, dude. But couldn't you say that about any sci-fi movie? Anything that's a little bit fiction? If I were to just tell you the plot of Interstellar, you'd be like, this is fucking ridiculous. But you wouldn't be like, that's like, you know, a little bit fiction. Like, you know, if I were to just tell you like the plot of like Interstellar, you'd be like, this is fucking ridiculous. But you wouldn't be like, that's like Fast and the Furious.

No, but that's time travel. And we're talking about, you know, all that shit. That's like the effort that Nolan puts into like the story. Like everything's explained really well. Whereas this like, it's silly. That's fine. I like silly. I just don't think it's, i've seen like sillier things i think

there's a little bit of a like a hive mind going on with this like but but i mean i i love the fucking show but i i get it like like we're kevin i already talked about this so i'm kind of repeating myself to him but like that scene when he gets to the janitor you're kind of like this is so silly yeah but you know what? At the same time, like, there was a tweet of people, I think it went pretty viral, of somebody being like,

this is the moment we were all crying, right? And I didn't cry at the janitor thing. No, fuck no. But there was a whole bunch of people who were like, that was the moment

that like, you know, got them emotional. Yeah. I bet I could pick out where those people live. Huh? I bet I could pick out where they live.

It's what we call the middle of the country. But I do think that there's like, you know, the proof is in the pudding, I think. I also think when people are criticizing the show, I think everyone's pretty much in agreement that episode seven was amazing. And the premiere was really good. Yeah. Great. Two out of seven episodes that have gone off right now have been like very well regarded.

And the rest are like okay or pretty good. They're all good. It's entertaining. That's why I just don't... Everything you're saying is true, but I also just think there's something going on where people want to say the show's bad. But it's like, again,

and again, I told Kevin this, I know I overused this, but it's crazy popular. It's as big as it can be. Everyone loves it. Again, I'm not saying give it an Emmy for best show, which it probably will get nominated for. Yeah. But like, cause it's probably not.

But again, I mean, I don't want to belabor it too, but I just, I do think there's a little more intrigue in like, if you were the president in this situation, what would you do? Would you tell the truth to the Americans or would you hide it? If you were the person tasked with creating creating this underground which is absurd to create an underground city but if you were that would you protect it by killing somebody who might compromise like i think there is more to it than just like explosions and you know what i mean yeah you could you can debate uh some of these characters and some of their motivations and some of the things that they're saying and doing. I don't know about that as much. I kind of disagree with you there.

But like I said, I don't know. I'm just saying if you're entertainment, it's entertaining, it's good. Well, that's what I was going to say. What happened to just being just entertainment and being okay? Enjoy a show that's supposed to be enjoyable.

Right. Like why does everything have to be either the best thing or the worst thing ever? What happened to just like something down the middle? Yeah. And you know what?

Maybe you guys don't even like that movie, but i like that movie yeah i mean i'm usually that way with movies in general it takes a lot for me to like i'll watch a movie and just be like even if i'm like yeah that sucked but i'm just like i don't know whatever yeah i just watched the uh good oh sorry well i was just saying my i have a theory that like okay slow burn television i kind of think is why the rom-com like what killed the rom-com because you have slow burn television i kind of think is why the rom-com like what killed the rom-com because you have slow burn television on one end of the spectrum where like with tv it's like you have this whole storyline like that's building very well very well crafted and then you have your very good movies that are you know in the movie other side of the spectrum very well crafted very cinematic whatever everything in between just feels too rushed of a storyline so it's like the rom-com it's supposed to be light-hearted but then when you're watching it you're just like

well i kind of like that slow burn with the relationships or you need like that heavy i don't know i don't know what you're saying i also think too that people are like afraid to admit when they like those in-betweens yeah it's like that's what i'm It's like, you know, like it's embarrassing or like you're stupid. It's like, I mean, I can watch both of those things. But I think like fast-paced shit that keeps going. I think like- Christopher Nolan's favorite franchise? Fast and Furious.

No way, really? Yeah, go back. You Google that, you fucking son of a bitch. Go ahead and google it see what christopher nolan says about the fast and furious franchise yeah because there's a bunch of assholes like pads out there who are gonna be like this is so amazing like a little son of a photography it's like shut up no guilt about loving yes not yeah this is this is oh no sorry i thought the he was admitting that all the fast and furious

isn't totally comprehensible but i mean like tenant tenant is the perfect example tenant is so over the top complicated it's a bad movie yeah it's a bad thing too much once once it gets to the point where it's like again i think i'm a pretty smart person who can pick up on these things so an average person has no fucking clue what's going on. Right. And so when you get that complicated, it's bad. Yes, I agree. Like, I can admit that maybe it was well acted and well shot and all that, but if your story is that complicated where the average person is like, I don't fucking get it, it's not a good movie.

Yeah. Jackie, what are some rom-coms that you enjoy? So, like, well, I mean, all the, like, my favorite is, what's it called? Characters. I love that one. What's the one with Adam Sandler and Jennifer Aniston? Just go with it. A 2011 rom-com.

Just go with it. It's awesome. That one's the best, but I haven't had it. There's no recent ones that are like. For like their age. Set it up is probably the best. You probably don't know any like the McConaughey ones that we all watched

well 10 things I hate about or um no sorry 10 how to lose a guy oh my god maybe I don't know what I'm talking about

how to lose a guy in 10 days so good I mean that's I think that's the gold standard to me that's the gold standard Jackie do you like Nancy Meyers movies remind me

it's complicated um yeah uh what's the other one that we watch itind me. It's complicated. Yeah. What's the other one that we watch all the time? It's complicated. No, it's complicated. Something's got to give. Which ones is complicated?

It's complicated. It's awesome. Baldwin, Meryl Streep, John Krasinski. The Holiday. The Holiday. Nancy Meyers is one of my favorite directors.

She's almost known more for her aesthetic. Father of the Bride 1 and 2. Yeah. Oh, huge. The Intern's amazing. Oh, the intern. The intern's amazing. The intern's amazing.

I was about to say I just watched that De Niro show. Oh, Zero Day? I haven't started it. Dave said it was good. No, to be fair, Dave did not say it was good.

He said it was better than it was. So I texted him and I was like, I'm about to start it. Is it good or is it just better than you expected? And he wrote back,

it's def not good. That one is like, I'm about to start it. Is it good or is it just better than you expected? And he wrote back, it's def not good. That one is like – if you – everything you said about Paradise I think applies to Zero Day more than Paradise. Yeah. It's like it's just – again, it's more about – what's it called? Not bio. Like technological warfare. What's that called? Whatever.

Biochemical? No. It's like they knock out the –'s hacking you know like someone's able to like the entire world it's like they hacked the whole fucking world in like yeah yeah but they said like it was one minute of of the this the network goes down and there was like 300 000 deaths which i guess with planes and cars like it would be mass you know terrible but but then there's like uh deniro is getting like heat they're targeting him with like biochemical warfare while the hacking's going on and then there's torture and there's like a alex jones type character that i was like this is dude crazy this that is i think a better description of like

the past the various that plot line reminds reminds me of when the movie came out. Was it the one with Ethan Hawke on Netflix? Leave the World Behind. And the movie came out and everyone was like, this is exactly how it would happen. It's just how fucking cybersecurity movies happen. Yeah. I always wondered that. Do you think these things come from some kernel of truth?

Probably. There's so many tropes that are pretty seen. I don't know if I'd call it a kernel of truth. I'd call it a kernel of something someone heard. Yeah. Well, even a lot of the sci-fi people will say that the general alien look comes from something. I guess it doesn't really check out because there's all types of aliens yeah but like somewhere somebody came up with like this idea first that like there will be nuclear winter or the aliens look like this or whatever and it might just be

like a storyteller but i wonder if you know it's all just like it's all just a fucked up game of telephone yeah yeah it's like like an alien is like jesus is white like how that happened right right you saying like um you like your movies as if somebody was spilling it on cocaine just makes me think about pregnant people. Guys, why are we okay with pregnant people? What do you mean? I feel like it's like, why are we acting like we're all cool with pregnant people? Dude, the fact that we have not evolved beyond this is crazy.

Jackie, what you're saying is like, I can't wrap my head around that there's a human growing inside my wife's body right now like if i'm pregnant right now i'm there's a human floating inside of me what do you mean what do you mean i don't get it if i were to wake up from a dream and be like yeah like i don't know i was like i was pregnant and they go have you ever seen when like you can see it no and i don't like you see like when you can see it? No, and I don't. You see a little bubble. It's like that fucking movie Total Recall where it pops out. And we all just go along with it. Yeah, yeah.

There's no other fucking choice. I don't know how many more hundred years this will take. I think we will get to a point where you will cook it in a toaster and everyone will do it that way. Because I think you already kind of of can do that like physically possible. And if it gets to the point where like you can pay to do that, I think everyone will do that. Like an egg makes more sense. If,

if we were to drop an egg, if you just lay an egg, I would be like, that makes, Oh, that would be so much better because I leave it in like a nice little closet. That's like heated. And you check on it every couple,

you know, a couple of days, you know, there's these people, not so much anymore, but I can't even fathom these people that had upwards of 10 kids at one point. You're just pregnant for 12, 13 years of your life. Here's the question. What do you think is worse?

That or Octomom? Do eight at once or 10? I think I'd rather just knock it out one. I guess. One fell swoop. I guess. Could you imagine doing the C-section on that? By the way, I just watched the C-section for the first time no i don't want to ever see that i i i did

not realize your you your body still kind of like gives birth like it kind of like pushes it out oh i guess i thought i thought it was like they pick it up bro they just kind of cut a hole and the head comes out in like that little sack yeah and it's almost just like when you squeeze out toothpaste, it just kind of starts to go and then it really starts to go. Guys, what are we talking about? I didn't realize with C-sections, they take parts of your body out and put it on the side. Well, so that's what I thought. That's what I thought.

Because I always thought it was like, oh, the kid's right there at the edge. Right. It's right in your belly. And they come out. I got to get the stomach out of the way. Yeah. That's like with my breast reduction. They had to have my nipples on a platter they take them all the way off yeah oh i thought they just like flap them down dude it happened

to my friend's uh friend where she got a breast reduction and they put her nipples back on backwards not backwards inside out no no no just she had outside out? No just On the They put the left on the right And the right on the left And the only reason she knew that Is because she had one of her nipples pierced Oh interesting And And she's like

Wait that's the wrong thing Wait so you They left the piercing in? So they They cut your They cut your nipple off Your whole body I would just think that

They would take the nipple The piercing out No no no So the piercing was out But the hole's still in it Oh okay So when it got back on I thought they just

She was like Wait What the hell That's in it. Oh, okay. Got it. So when it got back on, she was like, wait. What the hell? That's hilarious. That's very funny. Was she upset? No, she didn't. Okay. Okay.

But yeah. No, I don't think any woman enjoys being pregnant. No. Right? So the idea that you could just have eggs would be a lot better. I think she'd be enjoying the attention of being pregnant and like being like. Dude, it sounds like a nightmare. No, it's horrible.

Like the pain, the discomfort. It's discomfort to me. It's like you can't sleep. You can't shit. You can't walk. You can't move. You can't anything. It's like.

It's horrible. It's horrible. So that the idea that people do that. I voluntarily. It's a miracle that women like if it were men, the human race would cease to exist. Probably. I think the fact that women can just like do it again. It's unbelievable.

You know? It's so shut out. Yeah, shut out women. I feel like the amount of people who are like, amount of chicks who are like, I'm never doing that again. And then like six months later, they're like, let's go. Like, don't you remember what you were just saying? No, it's literally like. Yeah, because it's like, I mean...

Do you have any friends with kids? Do I have any friends with kids? Yeah. No. You're still young, though. You're very young, yes. I'm just hitting... She's also from Long Island, so it's like New York around here.

I'm just hitting my friends are getting married and having kids face, which is crazy. Crazy. But like really are Peter Pan, bro. This year, but it's like, but it's everyone I know. Like this year will be my,

like, I know people like talk like they're mid twenties. Like they got a big wedding summer. I got like 10 weddings. I have to go there. So yeah, that shit usually happens when you're like 28, 30,

30, 30, 36. Yeah. That is crazy. Yeah. You would think you would have been done with that. Like stretch.

I don't know why all of us fucking we're smart just seems like you're absolutely right i say all the time if i'd gotten married prior to 30 i definitely would have ended up a statistic and divorced i wasn't done living like that and i also just wasn't even like mature like i just i am like so much more evolved and so much like it's more i guess once you have kids everything shifts but at that point i was still like i was not prepared at all yeah mentally emotionally all that for sure i mean the one thing that i always think about when i was, I don't know, 28, the idea of sitting home on a Friday night would have made me so upset. Yeah.

Like, I got to go out. I got to do something. What bar are we going to? Let's go to dinner. Let's do something. Yeah. Let's go to the saloon until 4 a.m. They turn the lights on.

Now I'm home on a Friday night and it's like, oh, that's nice. Yeah. We order dinner or make dinner. If you're not there, like, it's a problem. It's going to eat at you. You know what I mean's like, Oh, that's nice. Yeah. We order dinner or make dinner. If you're not there, like it's a problem. It's going to eat at you. You know what I mean? Like you gotta,

you gotta be there. That's why it's, it's weird looking back on like your younger years when you maybe weren't in the best relationships and you think, you know, like, thank fucking God I was in that relationship. Yeah.

Cause like if I was in a relationship with someone who wanted to get married, I probably would have just fucking done it. Right. I think so many guys just go along, so they're like, well, I guess I've been doing this long enough. I got to do this next. I got lucky dating girls

who wanted to kill either themselves or me. Thank God I dated those violent psychopaths. Have you had girls threaten to kill themselves over you? No. I'm not that desirable. Have you had any threaten to kill themselves? Over you? No I'm not that desirable I love the honesty But I have lost some weight recently Thank you for noticing

Any fake pregnancies? Any crazy like girls? No We were talking about that the other day at dinner We were just like I don't know how it happened Where like every guy I know Just like had a decade span of their lives Where it's like I got this chick who's gonna kill herself If I fucking don't know how it happened where every guy I know just had a decade span of their lives

where it's like, I got this chick who's going to kill herself if I fucking don't talk to her. I think that is a generational thing. I think the pendulum on dating and that kind of stuff swings pretty quickly. So there'll be a little swath of guys who are like, that's what women do, right? Dude, we were sitting there. These girls are like, what are you fucking talking about? No. We were sitting there.

It sounded like Irish wives in the 70s. We were just like, yeah, no, it's just something we dealt with. People beat the shit out of you. Just kept their mouth shut. Just the way the fuck we were in the world. I was like, this is crazy. This is crazy. Not all of us had to do that.

But didn't I found it comforting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I used to go to John with problems that I thought I was the only one going through. And he'd be like, oh, I got you. Can I tell you that? It's so funny. And then I was like, oh, you too and you too and you too. It was our me too moment.

Dude, there are so many like memes and jokes and videos on social. It's not a joke. Well, exactly. It's like, oh, wait, pretty much this is a pretty standard thing that like all guys go through with their wives, that all wives do this in some form or fashion and i'm not unique in that regard and that does give you comfort um but i think part of the reason too like i didn't ever have the girl what i didn't my wife is my first like real serious relationship really well you're a military weirdo well that i actually know that's the opposite right you

should have oh yeah i should have been married at 22 and divorced by 24. Right. And had my wife cheat on me while I was deployed or something. Right. We came home to a nice charger. Yeah. 28% interest. It was all worth it. Are you driving this fucking thing too?

But yeah, I avoided relationships, whether on purpose or unintentionally. I just didn't get relationships. I think it's the goddamn biological clock that's the problem. Because you could just shift everything. In that regard, I can feel bad for women. You could, like, between money, employment, lifespan, housing, all the shit that is just, like, shifted, we should just shift too. But if it's, you know, that's why I think eventually when we can evolve beyond this pregnancy thing, everyone will just be like, all right, I don't have to do this at 28 or whatever. And everyone is more ready for it.

But that – I mean I don't think anybody should be in a relationship before. That whole like your brain is still developing thing, if that's all true, you should not be able to be in a relationship before that happens. Or you can be in one but you're like this is silly. This is like high school love. Yes. but but people there are people like 22 getting married in the south and it's like your brain is still going for three more years yeah but you need to be in relationships before your brain's ready because you got because that's what helps make your brain you're like oh i don't like that yeah oh i like that that's what helps like

callous your brain and give you like armor yeah Yeah. But like if it's like anything, right? You got to try everything. Yeah. See, like do I like this? But see, that's why – I mean that's why I still think like I used to joke about like a starter marriage. You have a starter house. Yeah. And obviously that's a very like bitter, jaded way to view it.

But it was like you can do – you can be in a relationship. You can be monogamous. You can live together. Marriage is going to be different than all that you know what i mean like i i really thought it was like oh it's not going to be any different so like i'm already doing it and then it was very different and i was like well i haven't done this yet fuck you know what i mean so you still have to take this one leap that like you don't know you know what i mean like you you you think you might know, but you have no idea. The maturity is just like developing a defense mechanism against your defense mechanism.

So it's like the first 25 years or whatever, it's like, you're like, Oh, I got cheated on. So I'm going to like not trust anybody ever again. And then once your brain develops, you go,

okay, my brain is like in hyper, like now I like really don't trust anybody or something like that. And then I'm going to undo that work. And now I'm the problem. Now I'm starting to take it out on people. I get that. Go through the arms and all that.

And then you've got to be like, all right, we've got to course correct. Yeah, it's hard to like. Like Germany. Exactly. Well, they course corrected. They went far the other way yeah well but it's it makes sense that you you

your personality and who you are and all that shit is based on your experiences but it's unfair to take that out on another person but it's like

that's all I've ever known I've only been cheated on I've only been abused I've only been whatever and now like I have to just trust that

you're not gonna do that yeah that's hard for people that's why I think I did it smart I was just're not going to do that? Yeah. That's hard for people. That's why I think I did it smart. I was just a voyeur to all my friends' failed marriages. And I just watched them go through those terrible experiences. You're welcome. Thank you.

Just say it. Thank you, Kevin. Just say it. Like, all right, I don't want to end up like that. I'll avoid that marriage thing for right now. So that's why I'm— Where's the girl who's going to kill herself? There is a very...

First of all, not all women are crazy. No. See, I actually never say crazy. Yeah, you never say crazy. Because I don't think that's fair. Here's what happened. To me, it sounds a little fucking kooky. But you make the guess yourself.

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Oddly enough, you replaced a Mannion with a Mannion. Yeah. What the fuck are the chances? Imagine if I started a new show and I had a Feidelberg as the fucking host. Right. It's not like that's like Smith. Right. Right.

And the fact that she's also from Philly. Female military Philly Mannion. Yes. That's not Kate. right crazy yes so i got ryan manion who is the ceo and co-founder of the travis manion foundation travis manion was her brother who was a marine killed in iraq so she started that foundation in his name she runs that day-to-day it's an awesome organization that does a lot of great things for the military community and then this other guy rob who's been behind this brand called drunk old grad yeah which has been a meme page he said a decade huh yeah he's been in existence for a decade like he's been

doing it for a while i knew that one so is that that's military or no that's just like funny no no no so it's it's military because it's it's kind of inside jokes for west point got it um you went to west point yeah did you play sports there yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so you went madden or no i'm mad at what uh ncaa 2005 yes you can play as me oh so is so is gaz's buddy shout out pedro oh true dude pedro that actually is i give you shit for that but that is a like i would drop that all the time Pedro was a wide this I never played the game so I don't know this is just like

stuff I heard hanging out with Gaz and his buddies back in Boston I heard that Pedro if you're an OG stool you actually probably know who Pedro is

he's in a picture with Gaz yes he's what Ray Allen no he's I don't remember. He's either Ray Allen.

Kevin Garnett. No, Gads. No, Gads is Kevin Garnett. Pedro's either KG. I'm sorry, either Paul Pierce or Ray Allen. But Pedro was, again, if you've seen Pedro, he's jacked. He is an Adonis. He's just fucking huge.

And in NCAA, he was a wide receiver at Northeastern, back when Northeastern had a football team. And his strength was 99. No way! That's awesome to have 99 in anything! What was his athleticism? His catching ability was like 16. He's a wide out. Yo, if I was a

99 in a video game, I would be insufferable about that. I would mix that to every single person I ever talked to. Yeah, that's how you pick up girls at the bar. Have you heard of my guy? What would you think if some – I actually think that would kind of play. If a guy was like, I'm in a video game. I feel like that's like an icebreaker or whatever.

It's better than the average fucking shit you're hearing. I had a buddy one time There was a period where he used to tell girls He was on the US Olympic bobsled team And they're like I don't recognize you And this is like earlier before everything was on the internet He's like ah it's because I have a helmet So why would you know what I look like

What is something that you would hear To where you'd be like that's kind of impressive Bobsled would probably work on me But that's As long as it Bob's thing would probably work on me. Yeah. But that's, as long as it's different. Yeah, if you say professional. Anything.

Anything. I used to say that I was the guy who filmed the snowboarders. I was skiing in front of them holding the camera. Yes. You never say I'm not on camera. I'm the cameraman. Yes.

I think because like, I don't know if you know these, but Paige Lorenz And like the Tennis wives Almost They're like Or the tennis girlfriends

And they Are They like basically Have their YouTubes And they do like Going to his tennis games Like all this And they just live the coolest lives

Like they just get to travel with them Whatever I'm sure it's not actually as great But It looks very cool And so now all the girls are kind of trying to like tennis wasn't as cool for some reason i guess until i feel like amongst the girl community until they yeah when you're when you're talking about wags you're not

you're just talking about yeah now everybody wants to find a tennis boyfriend but i feel like almost now people are trying to find their new niche what Was all this pre-Challengers or post? I just watched Challengers for the first time. Oh. I think that movie is insanely unrealistic. I very much enjoyed watching it. I woke up the next morning. I was like, how did that even end?

I don't know. Down the wrong pipe. Wrong pipe. That'll happen. Leave this in. Do not edit this out that's funny it wasn't even it was just like it just like hit the uvula in a way that was just the uvula okay don't talk about a uvula enough like what do you mean there's like a little sack in the

back of my throat the the human body is just throwing it i feel like it's like it's like if i was an alien and they like injected me with like a human, you know, like, like, okay, you're going to be, become a human for a little bit.

They only like injected like 75. What is this shit? Dude, even if you think about like eyeballs and like, if you really, if you really start to break down all of this shit, it's like, what is this shit?

Finger nails, how your eyebrows know to grow just here. Your hair grows here, stops, grows a little bit stops like all these things are just so weird to me I blew my nose

in the shower the other day and I was like where did that come from like what the fuck ear wax orange it's like what is going on we know about every fluid

that comes out of your eye you blew your nose in the shower you said yeah it's the best place it's the best place to do it Only because of the nose job But girls are like

It's like old school Like yeah but I don't celebrate it You know what I mean Yeah yeah yeah We make it a podcast topic Like once a week Challengers If it was set in 2025

Fine No fucking buddy was doing that in 2005 What was it? Just being like two guys fucking each other and kissing and threesomes and all that shit. People were having sex. They were doing that. But I don't think that seemed to go weird. Wait, it was unrealistic because it was 2005?

Yeah. I don't think that the average 17-year-old girl or whatever she was supposed to be is having threesomes with her two guy friends. Oh, I think that's a weird line to draw. Didn't they have a threesome on the OC? That was like 2005, 2006. They were having threesomes in 2005. Yeah. I mean, yes, of course.

They were having threesomes since the beginning of time. I think that two dudes playing sports together back in 2005 are not really making out with each other. That's pretty rare. I think they could. I think it's possible well it's a movie where it's like now it's just reported on now it's just talked about all the time but it was still happening i guess so i mean i feel like it's much more it's a much more like liberal and progressive and i mean like gay marriage was legal in 2005 at least in massachusetts yeah i mean i know that but i'm just saying i i don't think you know your average like sports team is having a bunch of dudes hooking up it's possible

but i just don't think i think that's a much more modern thing i yeah i guess i think so i i didn't i didn't get that out of it i that was weird to me i feel like now would be more understandable than making it early 2000s. Yeah, I guess so. But I mean, I think just gay tennis players work. Are they gay? What are they? Well, that's what I mean.

It's like almost if they were just gay, it's understandable. But I feel like experimenting where you're like hooking up with your buddy is not really an early 2000s thing. I don't know how to prove otherwise. Yeah, I'll take your word for it um anyway back to bold america yes bold american yes so that is uh are we is it you know you say you're doing a little politics a little culture is it military are we you know yeah so it's still in the same military and veteran lane because there's still a lot to be discussed there. And that was the reason I didn't want to walk away. I thought there was just too much going on in the country as it relates to the military and veteran. Because they don't have time to do it. It's now.

Exactly. With all the changes happening. And I just felt like there were a lot of stories left to be told still. But what I wanted to do was also expand beyond just the military and veteran and tackle topics that might impact a lot of other Americans that don't necessarily have a military or veteran tie. So on today's episode, our first episode, like we talked about the Hooters bankruptcy and, you know, that could be loosely tied because there's always a Hooters in a military town. But, you know, that's something that is part of the lexicon in Americana that people, I think, seemingly care about.

Yeah. Or I thought about, like, if we had launched two months ago, the wildfires in L.A. I would have loved to have had a firefighter come on and tell me, like, okay, one channel is telling me it's this reason. Another channel is telling me it's this reason. Just tell me, why are these fires happening? Right. So, you know, topics like that i think will be uh i feel like if i if if there's ever a time to do a show like that it's now like i feel like almost when zbt started it was we were

uh we always talk about how early barstool was like you talk about everything yes and you don't specialize yes and so zbt was such a niche in a time where we at least we were not really doing niches right now niche is like the way to go yes you're an expert you have you have a certain topic you have a certain fan base and that doesn't mean you're pigeonholed to that one thing but it's like i want to hear people who are informed about things from the military to politics to just like american culture probably more so than the average person because they've served and they've been around the country and they've traveled and all that shit. So to me, it's probably now is the time to shine.

Yes, I agree with you. And also, don't get it misconstrued. We're not going to just all of a sudden try to become the next KFC radio, the next PMT, and tackle all these different topics or sports. We're still going to stay in that military and veteran lane, but we're going to find other ways to branch out and bring it back to the military and veteran space. And I just think again,

with everything that's going on in the country, we're not going to shy away from talking about stuff like, you know, I don't want it to become something that's like so heavily political. Cause I think that's obnoxious. But you can't ignore like, you know, Pete Hegseth is our new secretary of defense.

A lot is going on in the military we have to talk about that or we should talk about that if i was more educated and well-versed i would talk about these things you know what i mean like it's what it does well it's what people talk about i think you can take it too far and it becomes toxic and all that shit just like anything else but it's like i i feel like you know i don't avoid politics because like i don't want to talk about that sorry i can't but if i served and i knew and i had you know a little more knowledge than the average person i'd fucking rock on dude yeah and there's a lot going on right now that is impacting the military is impacting the va veterans administration so i just felt like

there was still a lot to be told and i'm excited to be doing it and rob and ryan are very enthusiastic individuals and they're doing great things in their own lives but i'm excited to be doing it and Rob and Ryan are very enthusiastic individuals and they're doing great things in their own lives but I am excited to have these conversations with them as well it's also good to have a little like a rebirth you know yes having done it ourselves like when we like kind of transitioned you get like a little burst of energy and you you know refocus and all that yeah yeah and yeah, yeah. You're now kind of officially at the helm where now you can take the reins and run with it. Where I was, I guess you could say,

second chair for a long time and second, third, whatever. Now leading it is a completely different feeling. We've only done one episode, but even doing that one episode felt so different than 840 or 860 episodes of ZBT prior to that. How is your prep for an episode changed? I create more information.

John, that meant nothing. That meant nothing, bro. You haven't changed shit. This is like, you're like the two people like i can't like bs no i'll be honest i'm still trying to figure that out like because again i didn't know you wouldn't figure out episode one right yeah so it's gonna be different i don't know how that's gonna ultimately manifest itself um leading a conversation is is something i'm comfortable with though how did zbt come about in the first place?

Because Chaps was hired in 2016, and he realized, all right, well, sports is taken, pop culture is taken. Like, what can I do? So he thought to himself, all right, I'll start a podcast for the military and veterans out there and make it like an online vfw a virtual place for veterans to come and like listen to stories and he thought initially he was going to have a different veteran every week and he put out a tweet said hey if you're a veteran you got a funny story send me a dm so i sent him a dm and at this point like i had done no quitters and I had you know RIP I had you know done a guest spot

on this podcast or that podcast so I was comfortable saying I'll send him this story and if he wants to talk about it I can do that and he's like okay let's talk about that we ended up talking for like an hour he posts that for the first episode asked me to come back for the second episode

third episode, the fourth episode we're interviewing Rob O'Neill, who's the guy, Navy SEAL, who shot Bin Laden, in studio at the old HQ2. And he's introducing the show, Chaps is, and he says, and I got Connor with me again, and I think he's just going to be my co-host. And that was September 2016, and we went from there. And then Kate, was Kate at Barstool and zb started no no no she came like joined like i would say i don't even remember like 50 episodes in maybe like she came on as a guest because she was writing for this publication called duffel blog which is kind of like the onion for the military so came on as a guest and then i think she just uh oh no here's what happened she had a blog about like

Roast beef or something Yes Some sort of food Some sort of food That resembled A part of a woman And people kept tagging Chaps So he reached back out to her

And was like Hey do you want to join So she came on initially Because that was Chaps' era Of like pointing out Things that looked like dicks And assholes She was like

I can do this too With girls Yes Match made in heaven Then she came on I't know, like 30 or 50 episodes in. I mean, that was kind of – you were on episode like, I don't know, like five or eight or something like that. But did we ever say like you're a co-host now? I have no idea.

I think it just kind of – I've just been a guest every episode. Can't hear this fucking guy. No, I don't think we ever had like fucking guy. I don't think we ever had a conversation. I don't think so either. Like you're on the show now. I remember the conversation with Dan. I think we must have at some point.

I remember the conversation with Dan. We talked about him wearing a mask or something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't ever remember having a mask. He was in the beginning. He was still anonymous. Yeah, he was still. At first, we actually put up a...

I think we didn't do a mask because that would be ridiculous. I think we put a picture of a cat or something, like a big cat or some shit. Andres Galarraga, whatever it was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it was like me and John, and then his was still blank. And we did that for a little bit, like a couple episodes. Yeah, I think you realized pretty quickly this is stupid. And then he was just like, I'll just go full time.

Let's just do it. Yeah. But the, I don't remember why which is kind of perfectly sure i probably said something like you want to keep doing this i don't think i was ever like hello co-hosts i think i was just like all right you'll do it every week right right it's just all very informal i think that's just how things go yeah the organic i think organic is always the best yes and that's how like i found my new co-host like because i didn't know when zbt ended chaps came to me and Caden.

He's like, I think this is time for it to end. And we're like, okay. I knew I didn't want to stop, but I didn't know right away. Like, okay, I'll just keep going with the podcast. And then within a day, Ryan and Rob separately, who didn't know one another, reached out to me. Oh, wow. And they said like, hey, if you ever want to keep doing something or you want to have someone to bounce things off of so i just separately like thought like oh those people would be good what if what if i just said like hey would you do this and i just reached out and said like

hey guys do you want to do this and they both were like yeah dude i really i really mean it i think like i i'm almost i'm envious of people who really have a niche like a good lane because you really it probably becomes a little bit like you feel like pigeonholed a little bit. But like you can really lean into these things. Even if you weren't at Barcelona, someone would just start like I'm a veteran and I'm doing a military thing. And they just make it their brand and they hammer it and they have the right guests and they do the right news stories on social and the right posts and the right memes like people will follow that the same way that they were like we're following foreplay for golf yes we're following you know what i mean you follow these things and it's crazy

even after eight and a half years there's still so many people like we've never had as a guest that are very prominent in the military and veteran community and there's still so many stories and places we haven't gone. So it's not like there's a shortage of content that will still be done. Do you have like a favorite veteran story that you've heard so far? Of like a guest? Yeah, guest story told.

From ZBT, you mean? Yeah. Yeah, so I mean, we had a guy on who was very early who fought at Iwo jima and he was 92 years old shit some some stoolie like sent us uh dm was like hey my grandpa fought at iwo jima and we're like okay cool like one of the last yes yeah and we interviewed he ended up being two episodes because he brought this notebook with him and he just methodically he was 92 very

methodically told the story of everything that happened and me and chaps basically just sat there it wasn't really an interview so much as it was this man telling this unbelievably gripping story of fighting in one of the most famous battles in in u.s history so that was really good i love military movies and stuff so this guy dale die who was in Band of Brothers. He was in Platoon, the movie. He was in a few episodes of Entourage. If you pull him up, people would be like, oh, okay, I know who that guy is

or I've seen him in Mission Impossible. He was a Marine. D-A-L-E. There you go. D-Y-E. D-Y-E. He was in the Marines for 20 years. He was a 20-year Marine, fought in Vietnam.

He was a guy who consulted on Saving Private Ryan. I mean, he's been in a ton of stuff. He was cool to talk to because he broke into Hollywood and he created this. This didn't exist before him. So when Oliver Stone was making Platoon, he was like, you need me. And he got himself onto that movie. What didn't exist, like being a consultant? Yes, being a military consultant.

He's like, I got to teach your actors. Because he's like, Oliver Stone, you were in the military. You know what it was like. You fought in Vietnam. All these actors have no idea. And it's going to look horrible. Right. They don't know how to hold a gun.

They don't know how to do this, that, or that. Yes. So that was a really cool interview. And then probably the only other one that comes not only other one but one of the other ones that comes to mind was uh coach k talking to coach k was pretty cool yeah that's a good one have you have you like what's that guy sean kelly i think is his name yes he's a navy seal yeah yeah like i mean there's a lot of that space that like and they're big they're popular you know they kind of do a little more politics and all that shit. Who's Sean Kelly?

He's a Navy SEAL. No, he's a Navy SEAL. Is there Mark Kelly? Isn't he a senator from Arizona? Yes. So one time we had John on the show. It was so great. He wrote a blog about this senator veteran's wife, and it was very explicit.

So we had John come on the show and have this guy grill. Do you remember that? Oh, I remember it. It was the worst. So we had John come on the show and have this guy grill. Do you remember that? Oh, I remember it. It was the worst day of my life. It was not like – No, no. He was like, what are you saying about my wife? It was complimentary.

It was like she's hot. Like it was – I forget what the blog was. It was – obviously it was something I wrote like in my early 20s, I think. It wasn't something I'd say now. I think it was Sean Ryan. Sorry. That's what I was thinking of. Sean Ryan is this guy.

Yeah. But yeah, I remember that. Yes. But anyway, when we started ZBT, we were kind of like first in the game in terms of doing this content. And since then, so many people have popped up. There's so many shows, a lot of influencers, quote unquote. So it'll be nice to talk to a lot of those other people and just get a different view on things. Yeah, I just think there's a lot in that space.

Yeah. And when you are a little more of a niche, I think people are open to like, yeah, I'll go on your show, you go on mine. It's like a little more of a community. Yes. You know, where it's like just trying to get famous people or celebrities. Right, right. Blue Chew. Blue Chew's here for one thing, one thing only.

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The group texts and memes are top notch and part of what we love to bond over watch love is blind season eight now playing only on netflix new episodes drop every friday so how do you feel about how it's portrayed in hollywood how like some movies do a great job and they get it right other movies stink and they just take too many liberties um so i don't know if you saw probably on you didn't on On Netflix There's a new Docu-series Three episodes

About Black Hawk Down Which was the battle Of Mogadishu in 1993 The movie Black Hawk Down With Josh Hardnett I don't know if you know What this movie is I was surprised

That I wasn't surprised By your statement But you acknowledging You're like oh yeah People don't know This was a real thing Yes

Or like Or what They don't know It was a movie Whatever it was Yeah And I was like People haven't seen Black hawk down right i mean we're old yeah yeah it's crazy that movie was 2001 so it was referring to a thing in 93 yes so um so this is a movie like

that that got it right but episode 10 of zbt we interviewed this guy, Matt Eversman, who is the guy Josh Hartnett plays in Black Hawk Down, and he came and told us stories that you're like, all right, that makes sense. The way he's portrayed in the movie, it's really an amalgamation of multiple different people because in a movie, you can't tell the story of 60 people, right? You've got to have a few characters and tell a story succinctly but if you try to do that with too many people it can't be followed so like seeing the behind the scenes and understanding

like that sort of thing's pretty cool what do you think is the best good i was just saying what do you think is the best uh portrayal yeah black hawk down's very good american sniper with bradley cooper was very well done. From the military action or like his mental shit? Both. Yeah. I was going to say, I feel like that almost non, the non-sniper part of it was probably the more. Yes, the PTS that he was dealing with.

Yes, that's very, very real and accurate. I obviously didn't fight in World War II, but World War II veterans have said the opening scene of Saving Private Ryan was very accurate. Was Operation Mincemeat for D-Day? I've actually never even heard of that. I don't know that. It's British, so that's better. It's an awesome

movie. The reason I ask is that it just started on play. No. It's Colin Firth and it's a fucking awesome movie yeah it's about this operation that the British Special Forces had to do and it was to move the German forces I believe it was to get us ready for D-Day like open up a window for D-Day yeah but it was it was faked basically dropped they fake a guy yeah

they basically dropped a body in the ocean right they put papers in his pocket and all that shit we fucking hoped the British find this body yeah

I'm talking about the Germans the Germans and they did right and like it needed to be like it was off the coast of Spain and they like it made them move to like the wrong

it made them move to Greece they put their forces elsewhere they thought we were coming to Greece oh wow and I believe it was D-Day but again I only ask that because they just announced it's going to be on Broadway now.

But the coolest part of it is that one of the soldiers, not the coolest part, but a really cool part. One of the soldiers or special forces guys who were working on Operation Mincemeat was Sir Ian Fleming, who then used all that knowledge to create James Bond. Right. Interesting. Yeah. That's very cool. Our boy Kroll hit me the other day. I didn't get a chance to read the article,

but I think he told me that Amazon paid the Bond producers like a billion dollars to walk away. Really? They wanted to redo it or something. I mean, I knew they walked away. I didn't know there was that much money. I don't know. Amazon paid the producers a billion plus to step away amazon mgm studios

shelled out an extra 1 billion plus to take control of james bond so i mean to think that like we gotta hit a billy to just recoup is and they're probably like we're good yeah amazon money is a different fucking level dude um but yeah man, man, I mean, it sounds great. Like all this shit is so interesting. Even little things like that where it's just like you don't have to be a veteran to be like which movie is the most realistic. I would watch the shit out of that. You know what I mean? Little things like that.

It's like which guns are actually used. Right, right. Even – I mean I remember Kate saying like that she was a lioness and you watch that show compared to what she did. She's like it's not like that. That's interesting. Right, right, right. Yeah. Hearing the little ins and outs of stuff I think can be fascinating

because you don't have to be a veteran to have seen Black Hawk Down as an example. Right. Do you get mad? Not mad, but are you like, that's not how it happened? I notice it. I notice stuff all the time, but I don't get mad or I'm not like, ah, I can't believe they screwed that up. It's just kind of one of those things that just happen. You just notice it. I notice stuff all the time, but I don't get mad or I'm not like, I can't believe they screwed that up. It's just kind of one of those things that just happen.

You just notice it subconsciously. Yeah, but I'm like, I have a military buddy who's like, I can't do it. That's just not how it happened. That's not how it would have been done. I'm like, but it's what we were just talking about. I'm like, I know, but they can't show you 60 people. Right. So they're trying their best to encompass it in these four characters.

And also, I'm sure there's a lot of stuff that wouldn't be entertaining when you're out in the fucking fields of Afghanistan. For instance, deployments. The vast majority of deployments, when you're in Iraq or Afghanistan, you're at the gym, you're sleeping, you're eating, or you're watching a TV show and binging Lost or something. That's not interesting. No. You can't show all that.

So you gotta make it enjoyable. I don't like when it's... The one that bothers me is Lone Survivor. Okay. I don't like the completely made up battle. Which part? The end. The last battle at the end. Oh, when they came in to get them

and save them. I don't like a completely made up... But that's the problem with stories is most stories just end with like and that's how it ends yeah right like they want to tie it up you need like the big cinematic editing yes but like i don't like inventing a completely new but did they did they cop to that like if they tell you you know well i mean it's not in the book so like i'm saying like if the movie like doesn't purport it to be real like see well that's that's if you're doing press and shit and you're like like you don't want to announce by the way half of it's not half but like it's kind of no mission it's not real yeah but you know like

you can't announce it but then when you're asked about it you go like yeah if you're if when you're asked about it peter berg who directed lone survivor if he's like and which i'm sure he is if he's just like yeah you know you needed an ending to a movie and we had to kind of get something in there. I get that. Yeah. But there is still part of me that I'm like,

that totally didn't happen. Not that... No, you're right. I read the movie Argo with Ben Affleck. Yeah. Like that whole scene at the end, there was no dramatic escape.

They just got them out and I actually ended up reading that guy's book, like expecting this book to be like, oh my God, CIA stuff. And it was honestly one of the most boring books ever. It's really cool and impressive what this guy did over his career in the CIA.

But Hollywood makes movies for enjoyment. They don't make it to be dead on balls accurate. Also, it's like the, what's the book? The Things They Carried? Yes. Where, or no, maybe. Magical realism, right? Yeah, you have to make it

more dramatic to have people listen. Yes. What a pull from you. Wow. Yeah, I know, right? That's junior year English class for me.

Wow. I didn't know that you guys had to read that. He has a quote that's like, what is it? The Things They Carried. Tim O'Brien. I just remember the phrase

magical realism. That's somebody I would love to talk to. I still haven't, and he also wrote If I Die in a Combat Zone. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah magical realism for me that's one of the exact evidence the whole book he like has these crazy stories and then at the end he's like by the way I over dramatize everything but like in order for you guys to feel how I felt in the

moment I had to do that which is and I think like you know no no it's a storytelling tool it's just like a term. It's a storytelling tool. Exactly. Yes. Literary and artistic is really, yeah,

it's just like, I made shit up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a very fancy way to say it. It's a fancy way to say it. We just made stuff up,

yes. It made it sound better, but yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what you should do? One of my favorite military stories. Have you ever heard

of the podcast series The Winds of Winter? No. Or Winds of Change, maybe it is. In the Cold War, America made a song for like the CIA made this band and made – or they like – it was a real band and they told them make this song about change coming. And they like planted it in Berlin and like got people in Germany toany to like like this song about change to let yeah yeah and in in the in the in the podcast series they talked to everybody who was a part of it and they talked to one guy who was in uh i think the cia or the

fbi and he was talking about how much like mission impossible shit is real yeah they were like we have masks that like are like that. We have like little devices and technology that are like all the things you see in that movie. That's cool. Which is crazy. But it's also a little scary. Oh, it's terrifying.

And that was like the fucking, you know, 80s. Yes. What they're capable of now is. Speaking of the 80s, you planning anything for your 40th? I, it's on delay. It's on, it's on uh it's gonna be later i all i wanted to do is have people over my house yeah i know i remember asking you a while i was like when's when's the house warming and it's not at this rate my 42nd birthday will be my 40th birthday

but like everyone's been asking me and and they keep being like you really don't want to do anything i'm like i do want to do something i just but this is what i want to do and it's going to be within a couple months so like if it was like another year or something i would i would probably do something but when the house is ready i'm just gonna have everybody over the house okay all right and how do you feel about turning it's it's hitting me it's hitting me it's not great wait why it's the only birthday i've ever like felt this way why uh i feel old i feel i feel i feel a little'm feeling my mortality although it's actually almost in a good way

I'm starting to get a little more motivated about things so like maybe it's a good thing but well I think those are two different things

feeling your mortality and feeling old my I feel like I I mean the 30s was a nightmare for me yeah and there's just like

kind of this natural end point that I can hopefully build off of. But my theory is, at least for me, I feel like my 20s was like very active. Two jobs, growing barstool, getting married, having kids at the tail end into my early 30s. And then everything blew up and I almost like pulled out a little bit so for like the last I don't know eight years I was pretty like just kind of retreated into myself you know what I mean and and that might be specific to me but I feel like your 20s like you do a bunch of shit and your 30s are kind of tired and then by

40 I'm like I'm ready to do more shit again yeah I mean that's I think how I feel like I am in a place right now we're kind of doing all the things I want to do and I think the nice thing about 40 and especially in your case and I'm not spoiling anything for everybody because everything's public like you have the ability to do nice things you bought yourself a nice house yeah yeah you're doing yeah that definitely helps too yeah renovations that most people have to like space out over the course of like five six years and you are fortunate enough yeah I mean there was a point in my thirties where like, uh,

divorce bills started racking up. I like hit $0. I was like, I have no money. Yeah. And I was like, it's, it's a weird feeling to be like,

everything you've done is a race. Like technically didn't happen because you're back at zero. That's a, that's a shitty feeling when you're like 30 plus years old. because you're back at zero that's a that's a shitty feeling when you're like 30 plus years old when you're a kid it's like whatever but it's like i should yes you know like in veep when uh mike mcclintock buys himself like an orange fucking jeep wrangler yeah and they're like aren't you in debt he's like i have no money yeah it doesn't get any like i don't i did feel. I remember feeling like once I got below a certain amount of money, I was like, well, I think I had to

declare bankruptcy anyway, so I might as well buy this thing. I'm never going to be able to pay it off. It'll never get away. So what does it matter anymore? I will die with this debt. What does it fucking matter? Yeah. Terrible, but true.

That's why I can pay my congestion pricing bro it's like whatever just fucking go i'm 100 behind you on that by the way i love it i think everyone who lives here does yeah everyone who lives in the area loves it i i uh for some reason many other people have an opinion maybe you didn't see it but this is when and this you know ties back into to American, the podcast. People have stopped talking with common sense and stopped being normal. They just take a top and they realize, wait, what are my talking points? Okay, I'm going to go shout those talking points because I'm on this side or that side. People coming at me and telling me they hate congestion pricing because think about the elderly people. I commuted. It's still commute. Since 2012 because think about the elderly people i commuted it's

still commute since 2012 there were never elderly people they don't go to work they don't work anymore they're retired they're elderly dude think about the elderly people is such a dumb sentence right no in general no how about these people who can't afford that how about these these people who are all of a sudden so concerned with the broadway industry right these motherfuckers you have not you got middle america like trump supporters you you if anything you've been motherfucking the arts and actors and now you're like what about broadway is like the health the broadway industry it's like first of all it's fine second of all you don't give a fuck about that i got i got uh there was a um a dude uh who replied to a thread that was pro congestion that i think got a little

bit of attention and it was like my son is a catcher and he goes to school on the upper east side and we live at midtown and like how am i going to get his equipment back and forth i'm like first of all you live in manhattan and you send your kid to an Upper East Side school I think you can afford this fucking tax second of all I don't fucking care about this one example of a catcher in high school yeah I don't know man that does suck you probably have to carry a big bag

on the subway now if you can't afford the nine bucks but like these super specific cases that are like okay that does suck but if 75% of the city is happy with it and benefiting from it and all that, like there's always going to be a couple of people. It's just like,

I don't know. When I think of Republicans, I think of conservatives, which I think of business, blah, blah, blah. This is just simple supply and demand,

right? Everyone wants to be here. We get to charge the price. And there's a premium. Right. Everyone wants to buy a ticket to Fenway. Guess what? Ticket prices go totally and it's also like this is a thing that has a negative impact so you got to pay if you want to still do it and like we're good we're it's not like they're just doing it for fun it's like traffic sucks it hurts the economy in this way that way we're fixing that and so this thing

comes at a premium yeah and it's and and i mean it's hard to be like there i guess there are some small people get fucked but it's like when you are growing up and commuting and you don't have a lot of money you take mass transit yes once i was able to afford a car i did it yes but prior to that i was never like why can't i drive it's like because you don't make enough money yet man like you're not old enough you don't have a reason to you don't have to get home to your kids. Like you just get on the fucking train. Yeah. That's just how it goes. You kind of,

it's like the circle, a cycle of life or whatever. Not to mention, you can't do things in this world to please every last person. So all these people coming to you with niche issues, like that does suck for that one guy. Yes. I'm sorry.

That, that is unfortunate. Right. But if you try to make decisions, especially in government and politics to serve every last person it's just not feasible that's what happens in paradise man when you're the president you're trying to figure out whether you're gonna go all right bro so i mean those are topics i think you know you guys should touch upon all that stuff and it's i think it's gonna be great so uh bold american follow it it on, what are the handles? Bold American Pod.

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