KFC Radio - Casey Anthony Docu-Series Has Viewers Outraged Ft. Chris Hansen

Episode Date: December 1, 2022

Timecodes: 0:00 - Intro 6:05- Bert and Tom talk about Glenny Balls 21:34 - The Liver King is on steroids 32:17 - Ronaldo tries to get credit for goal 41:16 - Casey Anthony Doc is out 53:28 - M***bating to yourself 59:33 - Mr. Beast's gf talks about meeting him 01:02:13 - Who's The Biggest A**hole 01:16:12 - Video Voicemails ++++++++++++++++++ - Bert Kreischer and Tom Segura call Glenny Balls a virgin - The Liver King is on steroids and no one is surprised - Ronaldo tries to get credit for a goal he barely touched - Casey Anthony Docu-series has viewers outraged - Nelk boys gf talks about m***bating to pictures of yourself - Mr. Beasts gf talks about meeting him for the first time - Who's the biggest A**hole - Video Voicemail / suprise guest visit from Camille Kostek - Chris Hansen InterviewYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/kfcr

Hey, KFC Radio listeners, you can find every episode of KFC Radio on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. I'm holding you like I'm Rob. Hand on the chest. Oh, we are engaged, though. Wait, one other question. Is Tommy here? Tommy Soaks? It's another edition of KFC Radio on the Barstool Sports Network. We got a lot to rip through today. We're going to do it fast, too. Our episode. Our episode. Put the fucking time on the Barstool Sports Network. We got a lot to rip through today.

We're going to do it fast, too. Our episode. Our episode. Put the fucking time on the clock. If this is over in our episode, someone mail us handbags. Don't do that, because it's going to be over in an hour.

We have never done an hour long podcast. Not counting the guests. Yeah, our guest today is Chris Hansen. The Chris Hansen. No disrespect to Red Zone Chris Hansen, right? That's his name? No Scott Scott Hansen I always thought they had the same name So Chris Hansen you know the one

Why don't you have a seat Chris Hansen To catch a predator Chris Hansen Fucking Silver Fox handsome Chris Hansen Good looking fella Not on TV for 30 years I'm going to Killington this weekend with a wild crew And

I feel like I might see him there. He looks like he looks like Atlas Apres. Oh, yeah. He had a, it looked like he came right off the mountain. He looks like Dennis Reynolds in the episode where they go to the ski mountain. So he's on the show. By the way, just to interrupt real quick, my crew this weekend at Killington is me, Cons, Vibs, Kelly Keegs,

Chris Clemmer, and Chef Donnie, and Caroline. It's going to be a fucking gang gang. Yeah. It could be a gang bang. Clemmer, Chef Donnie's a literal wild card

who will like ski a double black diamond and you might have to like hella lift him to the fucking airport knock on wood, you don't have to. Clemmer a literal wild card Who will like Ski a double black diamond And you might have to like Hella lift him to the Fucking airport Knock on wood You don't have to Clemmer is a wild card You don't know what

I don't know what Clemmer is like Outside of these walls I don't know either But I do notice he giggles Sometimes when I'm hosting The rundown You like that You like that

So Clemmer might be my Favorite friend of all time He Well he's also He's a Minahan enemy So any of you guys Minahan Kelly and Clemmer in there

means that anybody taking pictures and having fun with them, you're going to be a Minahan enemy right away. Okay, I'm going to take pictures with them. I just wanted to take a picture with you. You're like, whoa, hang on a second. I don't want to get Kirk upset. It's Patton Oswalt and Dave Chappelle. You have to put out a statement to the Minifans saying, you know, sorry, sorry.

You absolutely should do that. That is going to be a wild one for sure. If you want to take a picture with me this weekend, you have to prove you listened to the case first. By the way, I tried to go listen to the case. They dropped it at noon. That's so fucking stupid. Noon drops are so dumb. If you say it's going to be out that day, when I wake up, I want it to be out. Yeah, that makes sense. The point of putting it out at noon, the fucking stupid noon drops are so dumb if you say it's gonna be out that day

when I wake up I want it to be out yeah that makes sense the point of putting it out at noon the idea of that is just so dumb so now I didn't watch I didn't listen yet because I had the time to listen

and I didn't fucking do it you dummies so that's a fucking you know we might have a true crime case on our hands up there who knows what's gonna go on in that house it's gonna be weird

it's gonna be fucking weird as shit. I'm looking forward to leaving with some new friends. Don't say that. Or, you know, new enemies. I'm telling you. No friends. A climber might murder everyone in that house. Who knows?

Chris Hansen will be on the case. Send him up to some Killington house and he'll be like, hello, it's Chris Hansen on the scene. So we talk a lot of true crime stuff with him. We quickly kind of rattle through Casey Anthony and Scott Peterson and Adnan. We get his opinion on a lot of those as well as just a deep history of what that whole world of true crime and To Catch a Predator is like. So it's not like the funniest interview, but it is very interesting if you're into true crime and stuff. Yeah, if you like true crime podcasts, we have one coming up in about an hour. In about 57 minutes.

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We keep a lot of people's lights on. Yeah, that's not a great sign. Our best seller is our game, though. Yeah. Which is funny because we did another terrible job at marketing it. We didn't really know it was going to be ready until the last second. It's a pre-sale. It's going to take a few weeks to ship.

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And it's still 20% off And probably will be for the foreseeable future I think that these are just The prices now So yeah probably will be for the foreseeable future. I think that these are just the prices. So, yeah. If anybody's like, how's Barstool doing? One of the watershed moments of the Internet, in my opinion, greatest moments of all time.

What? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Add another ten minutes onto it. One of the most important moments in Internet history. Tom Segura, Burt Kreischer, talking about Glennie Balls. And, oh, it's great. I feel like this is something. This is Glennie Balls' show.

Have you seen Glennie Balls? I know who that is, but I have not seen his show. Glennie Balls has an Have you seen Glennie Ball's? I know who that is but I have not seen his show. What? Glennie Ball's has an OnlyFans podcast where he brings girls from OnlyFans on his podcast and he just talks to girls

from OnlyFans. That's cool. And they always want to fuck him and he never fucks any of them. They always say they want to fuck him? Go to Glennie Ball's. God, I love this kid. Yeah.

Wait, when Tom asks why I don't fuck him. He sits there and like eats ice cream when you do the Caleb Preston. They know everything he does. Yeah. So that's his show.

Only Stands. That's his show. Only Stands show. Yeah. And so he brings on Only Fans. These are all Only Fans girls. Yeah. And a lot of them are like, yo, I'll suck your dick.

And Glennie Balls never does it. Right here. Why? I think he's a, I don't know. Burt was 50. First of all, at the very end here, just the silence. Go back for the last 10 seconds. The camera just cuts back and forth.

A lot of them are like, yo, I'll suck your dick. And Glennie Balls never does it. Why? I think he's a, I don't know. It's him and Aaron Rodgers. And Tom goes, hmm, okay. What if we did an OnlyFans broadcast It's just perfect The two of them

I mean Burt was about to call him a virgin right Oh I was thinking You think It sounds more like an R So Glennie's not Questionably R So yeah Glennie thinks Is Glennie's not questionably R. So, yeah.

So, Glennie thinks. Glennie's noticeably normal. Is Glennie here? Do we have Glennie's here? Glennie's just fat. It's not retarded or anything. So, that's where I think we're kind of like the internet thinks and Glennie thinks. What's funny, though, is like Bert's only met Glennie doing What's funny though is like

Bert's only met Glennie doing Sunday Conversation. Are you in the office? Are you in the office? Come on by. You busy? Okay. He thinks it's his virgin. And then a bunch of people on the internet. But then this right now

is the first time I ever heard the r. When I first heard it I thought he was i thought he said like but like i think he's a and then stopped himself it can't be that though because again like birds met glennie yeah and to be clear it's not like a hmm like you meet glennie and you're, that's a person. Everyone's a person. You know what I mean? But like. Burt going like this.

And Tom just goes, okay. Which mic should we put him on? Glennard. Pop a seat. We're talking about one of the greatest moments in internet history. Tom and Burt from Two Bears, One Cave bringing up glenny and only stands and uh and um sunday conversation do you think that burt was about to call you a virgin or a retard at first glance i thought virgin me too but then but then everyone was saying the other one i heard

the this is the first time i heard which is tough but it's not like i i've met him before i i just said i was like glennie's met Burt. Glennie's clearly not. Which was tough. Glennie's clearly normal. It was tough to see. I could see Virgin. The other one was. It was tough because I met him before.

I thought. I didn't think anything of it. I thought he at first was just like confused. Then you said he's calling me a virgin, right? And then I saw a couple of tweets saying Burt was about to call him a virgin. Just this right now, playing it this time, this is almost like the Barbie thing from yesterday. I'm hearing different things.

This time it sounded like he said, I think he's a I don't know. Did you hear that though? No, I did. You hear the R. I've heard it enough. Yeah, yeah. He's like, you don't have to fucking play it, guys. I think he's a retard. I mean, like, why did he's like, you don't have to fucking play it, guys. Dude, how fucking awesome is it, though? I think he's a retard.

I mean, like, why did he call me? I mean, it's a great moment. I could see, I could kind of see people watching Sunday Conversations and be like, oh, that guy's special or something. I could see it, but I've met him. But you don't, you're, I could see if someone was like, oh, the big dummy, like, oh, he doesn't talk, he just eats ice cream, he's got weird nipples. I talk a little bit now. You do, you do. You pipe in, oh, the big dummy. Like, oh, he doesn't talk. He just eats ice cream.

He's got weird nipples. I talk a little bit now. You do, you do. You pipe in, and I think it's actually always, you actually jump in like the perfect amount. I know I have to jump in.

I've done it once or twice. But I would never be, you know, I don't think anyone will come out of there being like, oh, Glennie Balls, the most fucking,

you know, articulate orator of our time if they were to watch Sunday Conversation, but they wouldn't be like, look at the retarded guy. You know what? Moral of the story, oh, Glennie Balls, the most fucking articulate orator of our time if they were to watch Sunday Conversation, but they wouldn't be like, look at the retarded guy. You know what? Moral of the story, though, it was a cool clip, and I think we could all agree that I'm not that weird. You're neither.

I'm also not either, so we can laugh about it. We can laugh about it. It's funny. Can we talk about your neck? Have we ever told that story on the podcast? That's a fake story, but yeah. It's not. I mean, it's like anybody who thinks that Glennie Balls is a virgin,

one time he ate pussy so hard he hurt his neck. He woke up the next morning with a sore neck from eating pussy so hard. It was a bunk bed, dude. It was a bunk bed. It was a bunk bed in Nashville. Hell yeah. You probably had to fucking get in there,

and all of a sudden you're like, I'm not built for a bunk bed. Me and bunk bed don't go together. Put that on the tombstone. I'm not built for a bunk bedstone I'm not built for a bunk bed I am not built for a bunk bed Either way it was a cool clip So thank you Bert and Tom

For mentioning it But we could all laugh Were you at the top bunk Or the bottom bunk Bottom bunk We could all I'll fall off from my top bunk I was going to say

Which one's worse though You go feet up Or you go foot on the floor Like when you're feet up Yeah were you like totally in it Like in the little cocoon No I was in the cocoon So you were full up

So your knees are on Like scorpions're like knees are on like like like like knee to foot is against the wall of the bunk bed yeah like a sniper stance guy bro like a sniper stance oh my god dude if you have your legs up and you're oh my god you must have been a calamity it was tough because it was we were on it was on barstow versus america yeah so they gave us one of the airbnbs and i just had the room with i was like i'll be Oh my god, you must have been a calamity. It was tough. It was on Barstow vs. America. So they gave us one of the Airbnbs. And I just had the room. I was like, I'll be fucked up. I'll come to sleep in the two bunk beds.

I don't care. Not thinking you had a bunch of puss to eat. Full plate of puss. Fucking four-course meal. How long do you think you were down there for? I don't remember. She didn't give you the tap? Me and my friends talk about this a lot.

Because once again, I'm a fan of it. Of eating pussy? You can never pinpoint an actual time. No, yeah, yeah. Unless you set timers. No, so like one time I was sucking this girl's tits during foreplay, and I pinpointed, I couldn't tell you the amount of time,

but I knew I was doing it for too long. If you do it for 10 seconds, you're doing it too long. Yeah, that's a quick in and out. That's what I mean. It wasn't minutes. Girls right do it for 10 seconds. That's a quickie to that. That's what I mean. It was like it wasn't it wasn't minutes. Girls right now are like kicking the

dashboard. No suck my titties on. Is that supposed to be a longer thing? If titties came I'd suck them more. Like I don't know

when I got the job done. It was like I went from one. I went to the other and then I kind of came back and in my head I was like I

shouldn't have done that. That was too long. That was too long. But but eating pussy is something that can go on for like years more forever years. I mean, it's also it's fun sick I gotta say what it's a great feeling when you get like the tap up like I'm good Well, but is it a tap up like no, I think say the leg lock is the best feeling. Because you know you can't control that.

The leg lock's great. Crack a little watermelon. Thumbs up. I'll take it. Either way, great moment. Great moment. I mean, they are like the pinnacle, man. Tom being like, oh, yeah.

He brought up your other. He's like, oh, you're also the guy with Caleb? That's crazy for those guys to know your stuff. I don't care if they think you're an incel or a handicap they know you that's that's I've met Bert yeah I've met him twice yeah of course they know me because they know me it was awesome I love Bert he had he invited me on his podcast I'm excited I know that'd be great really that's sick Glennie Balls on Birdcast would be excellent.

Is that we just chill and talk? Yeah. It's like his one-man show, right? Yeah. I would love that. Yeah. I just like to chill and talk. Yeah, man.

I like to chill and riff. Do you think... First of all, have you never fucked any of these girls? No. Do you think you'll ever fuck one of them? I don't see the reason why you don't. Like, if you like one... But their caveat is it has to be on OnlyFans. they're caveat is it has to be on so so the caveat is it

has to be on only fans i told my mom i would never make a sex tape that's fair i didn't know so if any of these girls ever offered you privately would you fuck them if it was so my main thing i've also said is i would never do it like the day we record but let's say let's say i'm in la and one of them is like oh like let's go out let's get drinks I think that's fair but day you record I think that's a little you're a separation church and state you're a businessman 100% but also I think that but like okay

what if Sky Bree asks you to fuck off camera the day of the podcast you're saying no cash on the table bro if she says room 112 come up and see me you're gonna be like no I'm too professional and I can catch them on the table, bro. If she says, you know, room 112, come up and see me. You're not, you're going to be like, no, I'm too professional?

Leonard. Leonard. If Sky, I mean Skybrain. It's different. Case by case basis? Can I tell you the closest I've ever come to doing it? Yeah. It was with Juan, I'm not going to say who it was.

But we went out for drinks afterwards. Just me and her. was like i'll come back to the room let's get food i went to her hotel room you are a strong man glenn and i was like here's what i'm going to do because i don't want to i don't want to overstep a boundary by any means we were drinking here's what i'm going to do i said oh i just called my uber it's 10 minutes away and if she which i didn't actually do but i was gonna say if she says stay and then I'll stay if not I'll leave and I just said grab a nice That is a good But I think but I think she invited you past the boundary. Yeah, I think someone to your hotel room There's there's literally else you're doing a hotel room, but fuck there's a strong chance that girl

I was more than herself right now I think you are money walked out and she went to did Glennie Balls just turn me down for sex? Like, what the fuck? No, we were getting food and then we went up and ate in her room. But she said, come up to my room and eat? Yeah. How come you didn't go up and eat, bro?

Moral of the story is, I don't really... I'm not gonna... I've also said it on the podcast a thousand times. If you're just offering me sex, I'm not interested. You let the chase. That's all I care about. Yeah. Me and my friends say that all the time.

If I'm, like, talking to a girl at a bar and I'm like, hey, you wanna come back to my room? And she says yes, I'm like... See chase. That's all I care about. Me and my friends say that all the time. If I'm like talking to a girl at a bar and I'm like, hey, you want to come back to my room? And she says yes. I'm like, see you. That's good enough for me. Oh, that's good. Like, obviously, if I'm drunk, I'll do it. Yeah. As long as you said yes.

I got to put that in the show to interest me. That's all I need. Get off. That's all I need. That is fair. I also will say, I don't know if I would like to be turned into this fucking dog and pony show. These girls come in here and they poke and prod me and they want to fuck me. And then it's like a thing for the internet.

What if you did a thing where you, we kind of have a question like this in ATI. What if you'd have to fuck either the night before or two nights before? Obviously not day of. And then they review your sex. They talk about your sex. Yeah. I wouldn't want that either. You know what?

I mean, I wouldn't want it. I think I would want it. I think you could make it fun. I think it would be so i wouldn't want that either i mean i wouldn't want it i think i would i think i think you can make it fun i think it'd be great i think because you know what anybody any girl that does that and is in the sex worker game and all this shit would be cool about it they're also so good at it too it's but that's why it would be funny i think it would be like they would be laughing at you but they'd also throw you some compliments they'd be like yo glennie balls eats box like it's a fucking like that would be laughing at you, but they'd also throw you some compliments. They'd be like, yo, Glennie Balls eats box like it's a fucking all-you-can-eat buffet. But then they would be like, and then, like, you know,

he almost, like, you know, his eyes rolled out of his fucking head when I deep-throated him, and it was funny. Like, they would, you know, they would balance it out. It would be fun. But once again,

like, you have to realize, like, I don't think Bert and Tom knows everything they're doing. This is always on camera. Yeah, right, right, right. It's not an on-camera offer. Right, right, right. If it's an off-camera offer, obviously we could talk.

Yeah. What about if you were the stunt dick? Nah. You want your face in it? No, I just don't want to. I don't need to do anything with the camera. Right. Yeah, I wouldn't.

My issue with that would be I don't want to hold the camera. That's exactly what I said. Yeah. If I'm fucking. All right, GoPro strapped on the head. That's okay. Once again, that's you, Sky Bree. If I'm fucking Sky Bree, I don'tpped on the head. That's okay. Once again, that's you, SkyBree. If I'm fucking SkyBree,

I don't want to worry about getting an angle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I want to enjoy it. You know, it's... I get that. I want to go on the record. I will fuck SkyBree holding anything and doing anything, any angles,

whatever you want, man. The opposite of the table, Sky. But, I don't know. It's just... Like, I love women. They're awesome. But I don't... I just don't have a...

Fucking eating pussy, awesome. Women, awesome. Bunk beds, no. I love them I don't just don't have a fucking eating pussy awesome women awesome bunk beds no I love them but I just don't need to I don't need to fucking do the OnlyFans thing

sex haver fully functioning brain Glennie Balls fully functioning brain but once again awesome clip so if you guys happen to see this clip

thank you guys so much but I think we can all agree it's funny that I was called to one of those things if you're not actually one you can laugh about it yeah dude the end is my favorite too

they both sit there kind of quietly and they just look at the screen and Burt goes like this sideways back and forth and Tom just goes

yeah I mean you're living this dream dude you're living the dream I think yes I think it's fun god I think it's fun goddamn right it's fun live it up

do it while you can I scream and I agree that's what I always say yeah I'm always like hey when I'm traveling should I take you there should I get fucked up

on a Tuesday night am I gonna be doing this forever there will come a day where you gotta settle down you gotta have a wife and kids you can't be doing this kind of shit I agree that's 100%

I would be doing this now if I was married I would have driven to Connecticut last week to go to nickelback on a sunday night no but whatever that's it how great are they they're fucking awesome man he can't even say they he can say we how great were we talking about only fan i'd talk about fuck only fans talk about nickelback that's some real shit yeah that's a real real shit you rather fuck sky brie or be uh like a part of Nickelback all the time they perform? I could truly say this.

I think this is going to be taken the wrong way. Sky Bree or that experience, I'm taking Nickelback. Oh, I don't think that's taken the wrong way. I wholeheartedly agree with that. That's like a once in a lifetime. I mean, fucking Sky Bree is probably a once in a lifetime thing too. But having sex is not a once in a lifetime thing. Doing that with Nickelback.

There's probably only been two fans that have ever been called up on stage and done that. And the other one was probably a charity thing. Which also might have been a charity thing. But also, like, freaking... Imagine if Nickelback thought that Glennie was a charity thing, too. I was concerned that Kroger thought I was a Make-A-Wish kid. I was. I was very concerned. The light bulb just went off.

I just connected the switch. Maybe Glennie Balls was the... Trust me. I was so happy because when Kroger walked in on Sunday night in the green room before the show, he walked right up to me and he was like, forgive me. I didn't know who you were. I told my girlfriend that we're bringing you up, but she got so excited. I was like, okay.

Really? At least he doesn't think I'm a Make-A-Wish kid. At least his girlfriend knows who I am. So she explained. So I have an ounce of respect for Kroger. And he doesn't think I'm a Make-A-Wish kid. At least his girlfriend knows who I am. So she explains it. So I have an ounce of respect for her. And he doesn't think I'm a make-a-wish kid. How'd you get here? I drove you.

You drive? They let you guys do that now, huh? Let that happen. I'm happy. I'm happy about that. But yeah, being up there a little fucked up and halfway through the song, just turning your left and being like, holy fuck, that's fully chugging Jack Rooker right there. It was crazy.

That was well worth any, better than any sexual experience you could have. I can absolutely understand that. I know. I would venture to guess I'd agree. Keep doing it, man. Keep living the dream.

Let's go, Mets. Also, not either of those things. I want to tell you about that other reason, too. Okay, yeah, yeah. As soon as we're done, I will come find you. You're just fellas.

Thank you, brother. Let's get right to it. We will do a little one-minute man edition. I got a bunch of topics for today, and then we'll do asshole, and then we'll do voicemails. So, bam, there's your 55 minutes left. 55, 13. One-minute man KFC radio edition.

We begin with the breaking news that nobody saw coming. The liver king is on steroids. I know you're surprised. I know you can't believe it. The liver king, they found emails. Dude, that dude's whole body was as vascular as a penis. No shit. He looked like he was about to explode

at any moment. He looked like he was about to burst. If you hit him with a Capri Sun straw, it was going everywhere. You gotta do the angle and it would explode, man. That dude's door frames were all fucking curved. If he bumped into one, it was a problem. So the guy who runs...

Also, I've taken two of the steroids. I noticed that. The guy was also put in work. So the story is that they found emails. There's this guy, Derek, who runs an account for the bodybuilding world that is, is it real or is it fake? Is it natural or – what do they call it? Natty or – there's like a rhyme that's like natty or fatty or something like that. But it means steroids, whatever.

Zanny or nanny. We'll get to that. So this guy was sent an email from like another person in the bodybuilding community being like, here's an email I have from the liver king before he blew up saying I need like this HGH and here's what I'm doing. I'll tell you what, though. My guy did call his call his shot he did i was never in the liver king i don't find anyone over five under five six entertaining um and that's why i got on jojo siwa i was kidding she's like taller than me um but the uh he He called a shot. He said, I have a goal of a million followers by March 2022.

I think he blew through it. He fucking crushed that. But also, all the more reason that he's a snake oil salesman. Not only was he doing the steroids, he was like, I'm going to play all these people and have a million followers. So you're smart in that sense, but it's like, man, you were really... Tough day for Billy football. Tough. Tough. football. Tough.

Tough. Mr. Health. Mr. I'm going to show up at Times Square to do push-ups with the liver cake. I'm going to hunt you down, chasing you around like girls chasing the Beatles. It would be weird to be so obsessed with someone like that. Nobody would ever do that. Nobody would ever hunt around New York City looking for their hero. That'd be crazy, dude.

So crazy. But when I first saw that he was on HGH around New York City looking for their hero. That'd be crazy, dude. So crazy. But when I first saw that he was on HGH, you know my take on HGH. I'm kind of like, eh, I think we should all be on it. And then I'd read down the list

and the only reason I knew Winstroll and Omepropal or whatever was because of your boy Feidelberg. And Deca. And Deca. And Deca, that's what he did.

But so this all comes out to $12,000 per month Of juice Yeah mine was Mine was Russian Mine was on the cheap But I mean you know

You used to talk about how When you did like one cycle You felt like a superhero Dude I don't I don't do it One day One day Yeah

One day I did fucking wind stroll I mean I did wind stroll For a full cycle But when I did wind stroll For a day Banging out push ups Pull ups right Pull ups I can't do a pull up I could, but when I did windstroll for a day. Banging out pull-ups, right? Pull-ups.

I can't do a pull-up. I could never do a pull-up. I can't do a pull-up now. When I was on the fucking winnie, your boy was ripping Zidane O'Chara level pull-ups. Like, just ripping. That's crazy. And so, I mean, imagine, like, you know. I would molest myself all the time.

Just rubbing your tits? I would just feel myself. I'm like, oh, my god, I am made of iron. This is crazy. Steroids are dope. So that guy got an email from a dude being like, check this out. And then that guy who runs the account just searched his own email for similar shit and found out that he got an email too. No way.

Because it was before he was anybody. So this guy, that dude runs his own account that has like 1.5 million subscribers. So he was like, you know, emails get lost. He probably searched out this exact liver king thing. It was like, ah, I have my own evidence. Imagine you've been eating raw liver for two years. It all just blows up.

Oh, if you believed it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you were a follower. Anybody who did this is one of the most colossal, gaping assholes on the planet. You are Bella Donna with a bat-level asshole. I feel like gaping's better. You're a closed asshole. Dude, that is, you know, like, Alex Tate or Andrew Tate, you believe in him, like, you're a fucking... You're with anybody.

I hope none of our followers believe in us. That's the thing. It really is, like, you know, you believe in Jesus, you're an asshole. You believe in... Look, I'm entertained by that person. That's fine. What do you believe in? Don't believe in me.

What do you believe in? What do I believe in? What do you believe in? Taylor Swift. I was going to say Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift. Vin Diesel. All time backfire. I wish you didn't ask that question.

Do you believe in Vin Diesel? Do I believe in Vin? I'm entertained by Vin. Do you believe in Dominic Toretto? I believe in Dom. I don't know. What do I believe in? What do I believe in?

I believe in David Boshnock. I definitely don't believe in myself. I believe in Tom Brady. By the way, do you see Tom Brady when I come back? To the Patriots? I mean Like legitimate or It's a rumor

Via the Athletic That like Next year he's a free agent Oh he'll come back Okay It is It is acknowledged As like a long shot

But it's like It is not Out of the question He'll At the very least He'll do one of those Like 10 day contract things Oh yeah

So like That doesn't count as shit But even like I think he'll do like A Brett Favre year And and it'll be all right. Like, I don't know. He might come back next year and be good. The Patriots are Super Bowl frontrunners if Tom Brady's on the team this year.

That's just a fact. He definitely will play a season again, whether it's next year and it's, like, competitive or it's, like, five years from now and it's just, like, let's do a fucking lap, you know? He's on steroids, too. So, I mean, he's probably doing more than what liver king is doing the problem i don't have a problem like i think the rock is on juice joe rogan's on supplements all these guys who you know of but they don't they they talk about how much they work out and shit but they don't preach like their regiment as like a lifestyle that's

that's why this guy's a fucking asshole. And he released a statement to Rolling Stone. He said like... What an outlet to pick. I know. Strange, right? I recently watched Almost Famous for the first time, so I respect that. It's a journalistic place. Yeah, they loved Sarniv, so... They did.

Dude, like one of the hottest covers of all time. They put him like... Yeah, they glorified the fuck out of that kid. It was like John Mayer on the cover of Rolling Stone. That was wild. That was the guy who blew up the marathon. That was one of the crazier decisions I've ever seen. But he said like, he didn't have any statement about the emails.

But he just said, I'm actually grateful for this turn of events because I'm here to prevent suicide and young, insecure men. And this is just drawing light to that. Like, fuck you for using that. I've never heard. That's apparently his platform. And you play that card once you've been outed as a fucking lying scumbag. That's bullshit. Yeah.

Because for everybody, any kid or young guy who was. Bro, I'm going to tell the liver king this right now. I'm going to kill myself. Because you weren't really. You know. For every one suicide prevented. By the liver king. I'm going to fucking kill myself. To try to even it out.

I will say this on the record. And I will say it with my chest. Also. Also. If you were. If liver king prevented your suicide. Kill yourself. Oh.

You're going to say that. That was what I was going to say. If you. If that's what it took. If you were living for the liver king, kill yourself. If you were like gunned to head and then you're scrolling and it was like, you need to eat liver, and you're like, ancestral living. Yeah. Yeah.

I am about that. Just pull the trigger anyway, bro. I do respect how committed he was to ancestral living by refusing to grow past 5'3". Just like your caveman before you. Tiny little gnome. I'm about this life. You know what I will say? It is impressive to be committed

to eating disgusting liver and testicles and lungs knowing that it's just the fucking wind stroll. You know? You could be eating fucking Big Macs for all you want. I have a pretty solid feeling that that was only on camera. But even doing that, like he was housing some of that shit. He did a Lowering the Bar episode once a week. Yeah, I mean, but didn't flinch doing it, you know?

Yeah. So, you know, congrats, like all-time scam artist, you know, all-time hall of fame up there with all the other guys, all the other, you know, people who have been hustling on the internet. But also in all-time all time like you can't be the liver king and get caught with steroids you can't but also you can't be someone who didn't think he was on steroids yeah yeah that's crazy it's it's like uh you know it's like you're the same thing with athletes too it's like we know right you know we fucking know i can't believe

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Ronaldo. Cristiano Ronaldo. Two things. First off, he's getting $200 million a year from Saudi Arabia. He's going to the Saudi Arabian League. Al Nasser is the team he's going to. Shut the fuck up. $200 million a year.

Dude, what's Miami paying Messi? Fucking lap dance at 11? I don't know the number, but I didn't know that Messi was selling out and going to America. And he's selling out and going to Saudi Arabia. Yeah, but that's just what you do. Miami's got to be. I mean, they've got to be paying like $100 million. They're going to pay him cash.

I bet you. I don't think it's $200 million. They're going to pay in cash, but like. I bet you. I don't think it's $200 million. I don't think it's $200. I don't think it's here, bro. Because that's not blood money. That's Miami money, you know. Close, though. I've also seen.

I don't think the figures have been released. They, I don't know if it's because some people, you know, it's released in euros and pounds, according to articles you're reading. But I've seen things ranging from 517 total to 770 total and it's for 30 months it's not even thank you the contract is so short it's being measured in months it's like a two and a half year deal so they just call it 30 months it's something like five million dollars a week It's like 20 million a month It is banana numbers What do you think is wrong so far?

Nothing Nothing I mean you know You said fuck Ronaldo Same old thing I just you know What I hate is Have you seen how he tried to steal this goal from his teammate?

No So Portugal They had a goal yesterday from Bruno Bruno kicked a free kick, and Ronaldo just fucking straight up misses it, trying to hit a header, and is claiming that he got like a hair on it,

and then when they put up on the jumbotron, like goal Bruno, he was like, fuck. Really? Then all of a sudden the Portugal Federation appealed to FIFA to get the goal to be officially like Ronaldo's. Really? How fucking lame is that? Dude, this is so perfect because one of the things I saw last night

when you're 19-3, Boston Bruins undefeated at home, 13-0, first team in NHL history to ever do that. When they won, they're also 19-0 in their last 19 home games, but whatever. But 13-0, last 13-0. Some would say they're a problem. Some would say they're a problem. When Marshan scored an empty netter to make it 3-1 last night, he immediately apologized to Bergeron. Because he was trying to get it over to you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Marchand made the right play. He was like, my bad, my bad. I was trying to get it over to you, but he was cutting off that angle. Well, this is the opposite of that. He's like all thumbs up, and then he's like, what the fuck is that? And he's like, yeah. And then he sees that it's not his, and he's like, oh, fuck. Come on. What the fuck? And right here is where he goes, what? What the fuck is that and he's like yeah and then he sees is that it's not his and he's like

oh fuck come on what the fuck right here is where he goes what what the fuck is that that was and he's looking up at the jumbotron there can I see the gold did he tell you he blatantly missed it it's I mean super close but like I don't see the ball change trajectory at all this is gonna be this this grainy is not gonna be that's not it that's that's not it because it's a it's a it's a free kick This grainy is not going to be – I don't have a hard time following this one. That's not it. That's not it because it's a free kick. I'll find it.

That's the messy hand goal. Like, I mean – See, you know what they did? They don't – I can't tell from here either, obviously. But it's, like, past him. Yeah. It looks like – And that's such a dick move. And, like, some people are pointing to It looks like. And that's such a dick move. And, like, some people are pointing to that, being like, look at him celebrating with his team.

But it's like that's because in the moment he thinks it's his goal. Yeah. You know what also I noticed? When he scored his first goal and he scored his PK in their first game, he did his Ronaldo thing. And the team was not, like, that quick to jump on him. No. I mean, he's a scumbag. This is, you know, I also don't know if he photoshop scumbag. This is, this is, I, you know,

I also don't know if he photoshopped or whatever Madonna. This looks like the hair is touching, you know? Um, Oh yeah. Yeah. No, um, the videos I saw that were like zoomed in are obviously like people filming like with their phones.

Um, there we go. Yeah. I mean, there's like no, there's no change in the spin of it There's none of that But people are doing like this They're zooming in They put one strand of hair touching it But there's also other video of Yeah, okay, here's here's like, here's kind of a

I mean, yeah, I mean, surely you know, regardless it's like, dude, he probably has like 30 fucking goals in the World Cup alone, right? You know what? I actually I was surprised to learn the other day that actually you know what? I actually might be thinking all this back.

Pabs, can you Google this for me? I believe I saw when he scored his PK, I believe I saw that he became tied for most goals. No, no, for Portugal. For most goals in Portuguese World Cup history. So he wants it? I could see it. Yeah. I could see wanting that.

Sure. I probably wouldn't make a scene i'd probably be behind closed doors but hey i fucking hit that yeah yeah maybe you get but you know what do you want it that way do you want the portugal federation i think they ended up uh yeah i think they did give it no for for just portugal google like portugal all-time goals i think they uh turned it over like the fifa ruling Cause you know They just fucking said Here's a check Change the ruling You know Change the ruling

So like You know Even if you Even if you want it Like is that the way You wanna get it Like 118

118 But I In World Cup I think it was World Cup I don't know I thought I was surprised Cause I thought

The staff would be Far and away Where it would be double Yeah Is that it I don't know Whatever I was surprised because I thought the staff would be far and away. It would be double. Yeah. Is that it? I don't know.

Whatever. The point is, I— If that goal really means something. If that puts you ahead. Also, it's like, you're going to probably score again this fucking— Maybe. Maybe. Right? There's another video of him from years back that I saw where him—

So, nine. So, he needs one more so he's probably just trying to hustle to get to that to that level but you know I wouldn't want it I'd want it to be like real goals there was another video of him he's running with his

teammate this is another game and like his teammate like slides and kicks it in and like it hits the net and bounces back, and then he fucking kicks it. He's like fucking – because he didn't get the ball. Really? I mean it's like – I don't know how to find that one,

but it's like it was really goddamn obnoxious. I will say the – and this is, you know, because I'm at completely different levels, but I think it does happen throughout all levels is like – I remember in like hockey, that was the thing in the locker room. We're like, I don't know. We'd all be laughing about it.

Jokers like, no, no, fuck you. Fuck you. I had that assist. Change on the score sheet, change on the score sheet.

Yeah. Or like, add me as a second assist. Add me as a second assist. I fucking got it to him. And like, it was more fun than it was like combative. Right.

But it was definitely a thing that was brought up a lot. People are showing the, uh, that the, the video of that, the video where the guy is trying to push the pickup truck, but he's standing on top of the bed. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And they're like, this is Ronaldo's contribution to that goal. Let me just see if I can find that real quick. But he is like, shout out Ronaldo,

because Ronaldo is exactly who he's supposed to be. He is exactly like the person he's supposed to be. And I respect him. Perfect hair, chiseled jaw, tan. You know what? It's very messy. Ronaldo is very Jeter A-Rod, I feel like. I can see that.

Like the prima donna versus, like I don't think Messi comes across as prima donna at all. No, not that I'm aware. I know. Yeah. I mean, also with the comparison to Ronaldo, there is no comparison. So maybe he is too. I also don't know Messi that well. I don't follow.

Wait, you don't think Messi compares to Ronaldo? No, no. I mean, in his prima donna. Right, right, right. Not the soccer style. But, yeah, he is just a motherfucker. And it's like, you know, that's also how you become CR7 with 500 million followers You have to be like I want that goal

So you get 200 million dollars From Saudi Arabia Oh you thought the You thought the live golfers Took too much blood money Yeah yeah yeah Bro Your shit

Bro I would take a 200 million dollar check From Muhammad Atta No problem Dude I had I almost had some outtakes Doing One Minute Man I said I'll take it From any country Or any moon I said I'll take it From the moon I almost had some outtakes doing One Minute Man. I said, I'll take it from any country or any moon. I said, I'll take it from the moon.

I almost listed some people that I would take the money from that I was like, I'm going to get canceled for doing this. Fucking cut the check. Come back from the grave, cut the check. Your boy's in. Your boy's been looking to play. It's a cool-ass flag. I'll say that.

Would you take the money from Casey Anthony? Yeah. Casey Anthony, Doc, is out on Peacock. I'll take the fucking you take Would you take the money From Casey Anthony Yeah Casey Anthony doc Is out on Peacock I'll take the fucking Pussy It is Yeah We joke a lot

About Casey Anthony She is a A Garbage human An absolute Despicable Excuse For a human

Just my type And This documentary Is Such a bag of shit. What did you just call it? A documentary. Yeah, okay. I thought so.

A couple things. She's undeniably sexy. I get lost in her green eyes. She's kind of got a fat ass. She's still in good shape for probably like 40 or whatever she is. Those things, can't deny it. Also, she murdered her baby and she's a fucking pathological liar.

And the first episode is just her dumb fat friend who is clearly, uh, just like Florida trailer park trash. Who's like, I don't think she did it. She goes, that's not the Casey I know. She goes, she never told me. She never told me she did I don't think she did it. She goes, that's not the Casey I know. She goes, she never told me.

She never told me she did it. Until she said she did it. I always tell my friends about my murders. She goes, until she says to me, I did it. Boy, last night I got wild. I was all oiled up, fucking murdered a baby. She goes, until she says to me that she did it, I do not believe it. She goes, she was the typical.

But also, but I get that. I would be the same way about my friends. She also said she was your typical mom. Now, no matter what you might think about the murderer. Your typical mom wants to kill his baby. All right, you're turning me. You're turning me. I know a few moms.

Typical moms want to kill their baby. She, there is, the first hour, or the first like 40 minutes of the first episode is like that same fat friend says they go what do you think happened and she goes I think there was some sort of accident and then Casey did what she always does she lies

Casey has been lying about everything her whole life and I was like well I don't think I'm going to believe anything this girl has to say then I don't know think I'm going to believe anything this girl has to say then. I don't know if I'm going to watch four more episodes, four more hours of this. I would also, maybe it's just because she's just so pretty. I'm going to keep defending Casey here. Who amongst us hasn't found themselves in a precarious situation?

And I'm like, fuck. I didn't really do anything wrong here, but I am going to get in some serious trouble about this. And then you just try and... Well, what I will say I can relate to is every one of her lies... I'm saying like if the baby accidentally died. Sure. Like the drowning that they proposed.

This is going to be a problem for me. They said the baby drowned, and then they found the remains with duct tape over its mouth and traces of chloroform on the body. Because, I don't know, maybe she drowned in a pool of chloroform. I didn't know that about the duct tape. Yeah, and you know what actually really sucks? Throws a wrench in my argument.

You know what really sucks is, so what I will say, there is a couple interesting things. I'm genuinely not going to watch the rest of it because I feel like it's ridiculous. The premise is that she's a pathological liar you know then it's like well maybe she's telling the truth maybe she's not so why do i even do this um her her case basically without having seen the whole thing is my father raped me my brother raped me i've been abused my my whole life and that um that is like he did it and um and she just says like all of the stuff of me having no emotion and me going out partying me getting a tattoo during those during the trial and everything that was during the trial she got a bella vita tattoo she would be a beautiful life

i think so she said that was my fuck you to my family. She went out. She was seen partying. She won a hot body contest at the bar like during like after the baby was dead because a fucking bounty hunter came to Florida and she said, if you post my bail, I will like show I will show you the proof that like I didn't do it. And he was like, oh, yeah, hell yeah. I'm going to do this and find the person. And then he said she was like, she never fucking showed me anything. I just posted her bail. So she was like, oh, yeah, hell yeah. I'm going to do this and find the person. And then he said, she was like, she never fucking showed me anything.

I just posted her bail. So she was out partying. She got the tattoo. She won the hottest body contest. Glad she bounced back, though. Colleen's like, what the fuck, dude? And then she, so then there was Zanny Her name was like Zandella

Was her full name It was like Zandella Francisco Hernandez Who lives in this apartment building Oh the nanny Yes and it was She didn't have a nanny There was no woman by that name at all And the apartment complex

The apartment that she brought up Was vacant for months. So, like, all of these are lies. And she said it was that the baby drowned. And I just don't know how they fucking let her off. And what was interesting was they said this was the very first case to ever have social media. It was 2008. So it was like the really.

Oh, eight? Mm-hmm. That's when it started. Because I blogged the verdict. 2011 was the verdict. Yeah, okay. So that was also, a few things. So because it was the beginning of social media,

everybody heard all of the details that I just told you. So by the time they presented it at trial, it was like not a big deal. Everyone was like, we already heard that. Whereas the defense came with some new shit. Yeah, what else you got, Andy? And the defense came with some new shit that I, it wasn't all this rape shit,

but like there was some stuff and people. So what the defense lawyer apparently did was he went on Twitter and social media and just looked at like what everybody was saying in her defense. And he just like built a case on that, which is kind of gangster. Yeah. Like he's probably the first guy to ever do that. And so Wikipedia is my source. And then they said it was a big it was right in that period of time where DNA was like a big deal, but it was kind of new.

And the jury was like, why is there no DNA? That's the CSI thing. Yeah, that's what they call it. CSI, whatever it is. And they were like – the baby was in the trunk of a car in a Florida swamp for 31 days where there was like heavy, heavy, it was under 4 feet of water. Like there's no more. I thought it was in a dumpster.

I think that's the Jodi areas or something. I always thought it was a dumpster too. It was in the trunk of the car where they found DNA in the car. It was human hair that looked like it had been decomposed. There was the duct tape over the mouth even though it was like, you know, it was very decomposed but there was duct tape over the mouth, even though it was very decomposed, but there was duct tape over the mouth, and there were traces of chloroform,

which happens all the time when a baby drowns. They also had a specialist in. So she said that she... What was the original argument when the baby was gone? Did someone kidnap it? So that was the other thing. So she left on, like, January 6th or something like that. She said, we're going to Jacksonville. We're going away. We're way over.

Yeah. What? How of a day? J6? six or something that she said we're going to jacksonville we're going away way over yeah what how of a day j6 oh i mean i i think i made that data but it was like we left on like the sixth um going to jacksonville the baby was never seen again for like two weeks she just lied and said she was like with the baby and. And then the car that she had left with was called. What anxiety you must have for those two weeks. Well, it ended up being 31 days. I'm going to have to tell everyone this baby's not here anymore. It ended up being 31 days.

31 days, but the whole time she was pretending she still had the baby? Yep. And then the Pontiac that she was driving, shout out to Pontiac. Who has those? It got reported like a tow truck company found it in like a vacant lot or something. And her parents name was on the info. So they called and they were like we found your abandoned

car. And they were like what are you talking about? Like that's my daughter's been driving that. And so they started to get weird about it. And then they went to it and there was like a they smelled a fucking dead body in it. And that's when Casey was like oh the baby's been missing and I've been trying to find it for the last 31 days by myself

but it was also interesting so I popped on a podcast before I started watching the documentary just to get the details and they said that the mom was like no surprise, the family dynamic was fucked up before this.

She was like four months pregnant and she was denying it and the mom would be like, yeah, Casey's not pregnant. What are you talking about? And the whole world, the people at work and shit would be like, what are you guys fucking talking about? She's pregnant.

And they would just be like, no, we're not. So I don't know what- Watch, I'll do this shot at a hot body contest. I'm not pregnant, I'm drinking. So I don't know what, the, I'll do this shot at a hot potty contest. I'm not pregnant, I'm drinking. So I don't know what. The parents might be scumbags.

Maybe there was some rape and molestation and shit. But you murdered your baby. And I just think it's bullshit that she probably waited long enough that there's a new generation of people who don't know all these details and they're just like, oh, she had trauma. And she was processing her trauma, so let's hear her side. And it's like, how about no? She liver kinged it.

She liver kinged it. Yeah. Yeah. Actually, this whole thing was about mental awareness. Yeah. Motherfucker. That's why I killed my baby. Suicide prevention. And, oh, my favorite, they brought up, she watches it on an iPad.

She watches her mother and father, who were doing an interview, start to fight. And she's like, look, look at this. Like, obviously. Like, obviously he did it. It's like, what? Like a 40-year marriage couple, like, fighting after their granddaughter's been murdered, and it might be their daughter, and, like, they're arguing? She's like, clearly.

Clearly this is it right here What are you fucking talking about You goddamn piece of shit So And my favorite little tidbit That's a good looking man though My favorite tidbit of all She lives right now

She's throwing that out there She got a roommate She got a roomie That's fucking wacky Is it dude Probably I feel like it is right Yeah

Like a girl wouldn't live with Casey Anthony I feel like Casey is right yeah like a girl wouldn't live with Casey Anthony I feel like Casey was moved to New York I got a room you're looking to spread your wings in the big city happening you haul your boys got a bit you scumbag everyone else has ever lived there didn't pay rent, so why should you? You can have the bedroom. I'll sleep on the couch. There's a lot of perks living here. I've been wondering this whole time.

Have you guys ever, or how many times, did you use Casey Anthony for Guess That Ass? No, I don't think I've ever done that, have I? I basically exclusively used Sophie Turner. No, the chick who's dating fucking Jason Derulo. Jason Derulo! I don't know. You recognize her.

She was the biggest Instagram chick. I don't know. I forget her name. I want to say it's like Jenna Fox, but. We should go through one day and do a top five of, like, girls who were just, guess that ass. Like, obviously, like when Megan Fox, like, bent over, I'd be like, yeah. But the girls who were like, you're only going to see them

on this fucking website with their butt cropped out. Jenna Froome's. I don't think I remember her. Oh, wait, dude. She was a classic. Her and Everybody has their go to Fucking

Yeah Dude I I will never forget that one girl When I Remember when I used to do I used to do Oh I was pregnant I used to do like the

Don't Guess it asked Don't drive a Pontiac Of the week Where it was like We had a Friday winter And that chick won like 17 weeks in a row

Yeah Oh she was so hot But now it's like Like A dime a row. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, she was so hot. But now it's like a dime a dozen, you know? Everybody's got a nice ass. It's got to be hard out here for chicks. Everybody's got a fucking world-class ass now. It also was funny.

Like, girls learned about squats four years ago. But it can't just be squats. It can't just be squats. I mean, obviously there's a lot. You boys do a lot of squats. There's a lot of injections and shit going on, but I think something literally happened with, like, the evolutionary track of of humans where all of a sudden every girl had a fat ass. It doesn't make sense. I think we said it was okay to eat.

Yeah, maybe that is it. Keep it moving here. We got this dude. Steve will do it. He is originally from the Nelk Boys Full Send podcast. He went on another podcast with his girlfriend, Selena Smith, where they started talking about... I got it right here.

He said that you masturbate to pictures of yourself. Is this too personal? It's true, but I'm trying, like, I guess you guess you need someone to like a psychologist or someone to like yeah like i wish i could explain well okay so what do you like when you look at your head to your face like i feel like that's like crazy self-confidence that's dope so um i totally get that like first of all, when you, you know, when you look like that, like, you know, you're probably going to look at yourself. Yeah, we have someone coming.

I also masturbate to her. Oh, you look at pictures of Selena Smith? So do I. You come to Selena Smith? So do I. So, like, a lot of the comments were like like uh like meet narcissism and like oh this is weird it's like well which fucking one is it are we are we gonna do body dysmorphia and everyone should be proud of themselves and think that they're beautiful

or are we doing this is weird because if you know if i look like that and i worked hard for that and i paid for that i would be like i'm gonna come to this shit, too Yeah, those like in bond. I've never I've never fucking like outright sought myself out But I've I've been Masturbating to pictures or videos where you're in it featured and I've seen where I looked pretty good Hell yeah, and you get a little blood rush I think look good there any video where my dick looks strong. I'm looking at my day. I got a little blood rush. Oh, my God. My dick looked good there. Any video where my dick looks strong, I'm looking at my dick. Looks like I got a heavy cock. I'll open up a video from the home video section, and I'll start looking at her.

You feel your dick go, ooh. But then I see. Ooh, got a little harder there. At myself. I was like, oh, this was my performance today. Today I had the, you know. It's like, today, that goal was me today, you know. I was Ronaldo that day.

I mean, everybody does this not sexually. When you post a picture, a group picture, everyone's looking at themselves. I don't even know what that means. Her curves are like fucking ridiculous. I don't know whether it's real or fake, but it's fucking bananas. You post a picture on Instagram, you're looking at yourself. A group picture? Oh.

You zero in on yourself. You're like, what the hell? You posted that picture and I look ugly. I didn't even notice you were in the picture. I had no idea. I thought it was a selfie. And so now you're going to tell me if you post something like a sexual picture or video that you're the most intimate of things, you're not going to look at yourself.

And then if you're super hot in it, you're telling me you're not going to get turned on by it. Like, fuck all that girl works for it or pays for it. And then and then celebrates it. Good for her. And and honestly, though, everyone else. I mean, come on. Everybody else is like, you know, I can see. You know what the problem is it's like you're

looking that way things just come out of your fucking everything is whoa whoa it's a big Jesus Christ day for you I hope I've said enough things That I take a check from my mom At hot dogs That's getting lost You need a You need like a top five from today Just your worst

Slash best moments from this past 40 fucking minutes That one went under the radar I kept it moving but you go Very handsome guy though Best moments from this past 40 fucking minutes. Also called KCF, he's dead hot. That one went under the radar. Yeah, I caught that one. I kept it moving, but you go, I'm just going to throw it away. Very handsome guy, though. He's also not. Oh, he's a handsome man.

I mean, he's like fine, but like. Yeah, no, but it's the gray hair. I got a gray hair fetish. Feidelberg did that the other day with somebody we know. He just texted me and was like, so-and-so, by the way, so-and-so under the radar, really good-looking guy, and he's just not. And I just brought it up later. I was like, what were you doing? What's up, Jackie?

Wait, is that her dad? Yeah. He said quite a glow-up, too. I mean, look at that guy. He's a handsome fellow. He's fine, I guess. The halo is very funny, though, by the way. Like, all of a sudden, he just.

See, no, I was talking about the more recent pictures. Yeah, he had a glow-up. He got some money or something like that. Yeah, I guess. Yeah, he looks the best there. That's probably right now. Anyway, this is all to say, if my girlfriend masturbated to pictures of herself,

I would be like, hell yeah. Yeah. That's super hot. It would be like, I'd be happy that you looked that way. Unless I was fighting with her, and then I would be like, also, by the way, you're not hot enough. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The minute that I need to play a card against you, that's the one coming out.

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and oils and edibles and drink powders and anything else that can get that THC in your body one also coming from the social media, YouTube world, Mr. Beast has a girlfriend. Good for him. Named like Thea or Taya or something.

And the report and the headlines I've seen is that meeting him was like a movie where she had to answer questions, a list of questions before they met which her brook style okay that doesn't take the time yeah but but what's weird is is so you know he the headline says before they met that i guess would be weird if it was like here you go miss smith like you have to write down like these answers we'll get back to you if you can meet. It was – when you hear the story, she was like, we met.

And he was asking me all these questions like, what are your hobbies and what do you like to do? It's like, oh, you mean getting to know someone? Oh, you mean the first date. Yeah. And then he said – she said after that, he sent a DM dm being like you know not like you passed my test but being like you know you had more than the average chick who always tries to fuck me so like let's meet up again but so some of it some of that's being portrayed as weird like you know he needed you need to pass his test and it's like well technically everybody needs to pass someone's

test that's called choosing to date someone. You were passing tests every single day. Every day of your life. Every day. Every person. I am putting you through a test. Yeah, especially when you go out on a date. It's like, I'm trying to find out if... You look ugly one time, you failed.

You think about girls every day are running a test like, will I let you inside of me? And guys every day are running the test of will i stop going inside of other people for you that's those are the tests yeah and that's how dating that's dating yeah yeah and when you decide to do those things that's then called a relationship and then you know that crashes and burns and you do it again with somebody else yeah right and even during those relationships you're running tests every day all the time i just know something about you that i don't find attractive. This is about to crumble. It does suck, too, when something happens where you're like,

oh, there it is. I'm not going to be able to let that go. That's a deal breaker. That one sucks. But, yeah, I almost like the better version of the incorrect headline. I would love him to be like just a random list of questions. Like, you know, when you play Monopoly, which piece are you?

What's your order at Wendy's? Run some fucking M.I.D. assholes by him. You're running tests. So that's One Minute Man. Let's get into Who's the Biggest Asshole? We got questions straight from the box, straight from the game. Who's the biggest asshole. We got questions straight from the box.

Before we play, who's the biggest asshole? I have an asshole type question. Okay. So we are at the, we were at Triple Crown yesterday. We're watching the game, having fun. Great game. I ask the group. So you guys have anything to do tonight?

This group or others? This group, yeah I said, you guys have anything to do tonight? And they went, like, work-wise And they said no Because we didn't do any recording yesterday There was nothing going on And Jackie goes Do you ever feel bad about that?

No. Like, when you talk, I have to do work. Does that make you feel bad? And I was like, am I the asshole? I'll be honest. I do. I actually, I do. I do think about how much work you have to do.

When I hear that these guys are here until like 3 a.m., my first question is, why? Why? What is going on? But are here until like 3 a.m., my first question is, why? Why? What is going on? But then I'm like, fuck. That's why we got to put the clock out because I'm like – Because we're going to blow by. No, that wasn't my point, though. I think we're going to be all right.

We're going to be over, but not by much. What's that? That wasn't my point, though. I was just saying – I know. I was just saying that, like, you know if I have work because you didn't talk. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's true.

Like, when we go overtime or we do like a three-hour one, Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's true. Like, when we go overtime, or we do, like, a three-hour one, I'm like, fuck. Like, they must be sitting there like, you've got to be kidding me. Like, when I'm like... You understand people just listening to this during work, right? They're not even really paying attention. What do you care?

Like, you know, I'll tell you what just happened is exactly what I feel bad about. Like, when I was like, all right, next segment, and you're like, before that? And they must be like, no, not before that. Not before that. Just go to the fucking thing. They must hate

that shit. But it is funny to think of the idea of like a construction worker being like, you ever feel bad when you book a new house? Because I gotta fucking go. I gotta work my fucking fingers till they bleed to make your home. I know, by the way. I love listening to you talk.

I mean, I feel bad when I see the janitors mopping and I do my tiptoe over their mopping. It's like everything is, much like you're always running a list, you're always running questions, a test, you're always making work for somebody. Yeah. you're always running a list you're always running questions a test you're always making work for somebody yeah you're either creating garbage or creating stress or work or whatever for somebody else below you that's the gig okay uh who's the biggest way before that uh i'm gonna just go random like right from the deck my co-worker is always posting annoying instagram photos showing off her glamorous lifestyle. I recently figured out that a lot of them are Photoshopped, so I used fake accounts to point it out in the comments.

You're a hero is what you are. They're so badly. I'm such a good secret keeper. There are so badly so many secrets I'd like to put out there. And a burner account is a it's a very nice fantasy. It's a great way, yeah. But I'm not an asshole. Well, I think you are definitively an asshole if you ever make a burner account for like vengeance purposes or to be a creep or whatever.

Even if you just make a burner account. This is just a promo for our book. Let me tell you the fucking shit I have to tell you. 20% off. So if you go to those lengths, you are a dick. But it's also like,

you know, I also hate when it's coworkers. It's like, yo, we fucking, we live the same life. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And you want people to think that you're this. Well, maybe he's a man and she's a woman. So he makes more money. So he can go on vacations. Good very well. No, but I feel like pointing it out is, you know, that happened with Alex Bennett.

This whole all-mean-girl thing happened. But, like, a lot of people were like, fuck this girl for putting out false expectations for like younger girls and other women trying to, you know what I mean? Yeah. Like it just, it does precipitate like a bad cycle. It is objectively downright lame. But it is. You're a fucking loser. To do the fake stuff.

Yeah. But then it's also lame, objectively lame to do burner account hating. Right. But it's like, it's like. But it also is like, it's like kind of vigilante justice. It's like Batman. It's like the Punisher. Dude, the Punisher is exactly what I was thinking of.

Yeah, it's like you are a bad dude. The Punisher of the internet is kind of bad. But you're Robin Hood. You're fucking. You're not like this. Such an idiot. So final answer, everyone's the asshole? Imagine you commented on people's posts and you put like in, what do you call them?

Not asterisk. Yeah, asterisk. In between asterisks you just put asterisks. In between asterisks, you just put, punish your voice. This is photoshopped. Oh, I like this one. I got in a big fight with my girlfriend because she made us late to the movies

by taking too long getting ready. She says we weren't technically late since we only missed a few of the previews. Is that late or not? It's definitely late. Definitively late. But also, I'm not a huge previews guy. I watch or not? It's definitely late. Definitively late. But also, I'm not a huge previews guy.

I love trailers. I watch them on the internet all the time. It's ruined the allure. But I like to get there when they're running the trivia. When they're doing those fake little movies and short films and shit.

I get there. the lights are like I like to see a theater in the daylight I get there I get there the people who get there like for Showtime crazy to me crazy dude but also I don't know if you saw my tweet I saw the glass on the other day yeah fire you fucked me up in the head I saw your tweet and then I googled it and it says Netflix is glass onion and I was like oh shit is this a Netflix already but it's like produced by Netflix but hitting Onion. And I was like, oh, shit. Is this on Netflix already? But it's, like, produced by Netflix but hitting theaters and then going to streaming. But it's out of theaters now.

Yeah, I know, but I thought. So it's only, and it'll come to Netflix on Christmas. I know, I know, but when I saw all that, I was like, oh. It's weird to run a fucking seven-day. They did seven days in theaters, and then that's it. I think it's kind of cool. But why? It's a murder mystery movie.

Oh, just, like, here's the spoiler. Like, yeah. I could spoil Glass Onion for everybody right now for everybody good, but you know what? Besides Shady McCoy like people for the big movies Society has kind of like grown up. Just like why not put it in theaters or why not just put it right on that? Okay, I don't I just don't get the reasoning why put it out a week for a wait three weeks for a mystery If you didn't say seven days in theaters and then boom, it's on Netflix, I get that. I like the idea of when you have such a banger and you know it,

that you're like, this is for the special diehard fans, and then we'll get some hype, and those people talk about how awesome it is, and then we stream it. It's really funny. But when there's a thing that could be spoiled, that's kind of fucked up. But I bet you, well, I don't even want to say these things. I hate to say these things because then people do it. Because then people tweet and spoil it. Yeah, but it fucked up but I bet you well I don't want to say these things I hate to say these things then people do it because they feel people yeah but it's like I bet you I was doing right now aside from me who

will get spoiled because I'm saying this 90% of people will not get spoiled by that because I think people like who's the biggest asshole like I think people would like I think people would physically are largely good I think people would visit get in a physical fight, like, break other worse rules of society than spoil. You think so? Something big like this, yeah. The...

Like, I think I would, like, punch a co-worker in the face before I spoiled the glass onion for everybody. The... But what I was going to say was, fucking... I got there at 3.20. I was there on time. Thank you, bro. Thanks, man.

Just because, same reason. I'm just there. You know, it was. You know what we need is a. But the movie started at the time. The movie started. So I went to a 3.25 show. That's weird.

And the movie. I was getting into the seat And I was like I wasn't even really Paying attention Because I was like We got fucking a half hour Yeah And then I realized

I was like wait It's particularly dark in here And I like turned And looked at the screen And like the opening credits Were happening Yeah no no no I was like wait

That's Janelle Monae Or whoever the fuck You know when it says 7pm eastern 6pm central With a slash You need like You know

3 o'clock start 325 first first pitch. But even like everyone just knows now you have 20 minutes. So you can't just randomly start a movie at the time the movie starts. It's very well established, but we should have. I got ink clinking on me somehow. But you either got gotta stick to the fucking unspoken rules here or we gotta list it all out

you can't just randomly start the movie at the time the movie says it's gonna start that's not how it's worked forever I have no qualms about asking my friends to promote my personal business on their social media I would do the same for them if they asked just because you would do something doesn't them if they asked. Nah.

It depends. Just because you would do something doesn't mean you can run around asking people to do it. Yeah. I would help you move. Well, I don't fucking care. If you are... I wouldn't put you in that position by asking you, so fuck off. If you're just starting the business, I can see, hey guys, can I have a hand? Sure.

Right? If you're an established business And you're two years in No But like also Dude like that's fucking What works We realize it here We're like Fucking people who send out emails

Asking for retweets Get retweets No one else does You gotta ask Yeah Right like It definitely feels a little like It's assholery

It's asshole It's not asshole We think it is But it's really not It's like I think it's pretty fair To just be like Hey people who love me And support me Can you promote this Yeah It's one of those things Where it's not we think it is but it's really not it's like I think it's pretty fair to just be like hey people who love me

and support me can you promote this yeah it's one of those things where it's like you know they say to like speak up when you're like

having mental health issues or whatever like tell your friends or whatever it's almost like that version of like if you need help with your business

like why don't you ask the people who would help you but also it's like you know it depends on what it is and what you're asking for do you want me to like fucking cut a commercial for you or do you want me to repost a link or something yeah yeah yeah like, it depends on what it is and what you're asking for. Do you want me to like

fucking cut a commercial for you or do you want me to repost a link or something like that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is it a company that I'm... where people tweet like, hey, can I have this GoFundMe? And then you have to decide

because it does, the problem with it is it does open up Pandora's box and it opens up the floodgates where it's like, if I retweet yours, I gotta do his and hers. That's not even my thought process,

but yes, it is the floodgates that will come,, it is the floodgates that will come. But it's the floodgates that will come because this is gonna do nothing for you. Yes. Because this is like, you think that a retweet from someone with 300,000 followers is... Doesn't do anything. It doesn't... You're gonna get five bucks.

Right. It doesn't fucking matter. People don't care. It doesn't. It's very unfortunate and sad, but... I'm stunned. I'll give you money, but I'm not going to retweet you. I am stunned that probably hundreds, if not thousands of people, raise thousands of dollars for marathons every time they run it.

You know when they're like, I need $5,000 to run the New York Marathon, and they hit their goal? What? Those actually work? They do. People pay for those? For why? For what?

Well, it's not for the charity, right? Well it's for It's not for like It's for the charity right But it's like I don't know We're doing this It's charity so you can run I don't know The whole thing is crazy to me

It is You do it every time And everybody gets it I mean I guess like It's like I mean it makes sense You're raising money for charity You can say it about any charity

Okay here's You're gonna pay tickets To go to this fundraiser Why? We'll wrap up on a classic here We ordered wine at a restaurant And the waiter gave it to me to taste I sent it back

Because I genuinely didn't like it But my friends were extremely embarrassed Tale as old as time Can you send back wine Depends how expensive it is If it's expensive No you can't Cause you opened a $400 bottle of wine

If it's fucking cheap shit I guess Like who fucking cares It's $15 shit, I guess. Who fucking cares? It's $15 bottles, whatever. I also think that – I don't think you can. I think that – I mean, never in a million years would I. I do think you are an asshole.

But I also think that it's not – I don't think that taste is about your preference. I mean, that taste is like, is this bottle corked? Right. Is this bad? Has this gone bad? Is there a problem? Not like, oh, I didn't think this was going to be. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I do actually believe the really high-end places are happy to there a problem? Not like, oh, I didn't think this is what it was going to be. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And I do actually believe the really high-end places are happy to do it where they're like, no, no, no, we want you to have a great experience and the point of tasting is that.

But at a regular restaurant, I think it's supposed to be like, has this wine turned? Dude, unless you're a sommelier, you can't say that. Yeah, because you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. No, this is exactly

what the wine you ordered is supposed to taste like. As a matter of fact, the mere fact that you don't, that you didn't like it means you don't know what you're talking about because you wouldn't have ordered it. Right. No, this is exactly what the wine you ordered is supposed to taste like. As a matter of fact, the mere fact that you don't, that you didn't like it means you don't know what you're talking about because you wouldn't have ordered it.

Right, right, right. You know? The whole idea is I ordered this, you know, this Cabernet and I take a sip and I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

This does not taste like what it's supposed to taste like. That's a problem, you know? Not like, oh, I didn't like it. You're a fucking nobody. You're an asshole. Okay.

Voicemails. We've got three minutes to do voicemails. So we're going to be, we're going to do're a fucking nobody. You're an asshole. Okay. Voicemails. We've got three minutes to do voicemails. So we're going to do like a one hour and like ten minute episode. Okay. And that shit was tight. Tight as fuck. It was very tight. I forget what I said to do to a...

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That's myfreebird.com slash KFC for 20% off today. So I just got done recording and figured I'd give you guys a call voicemail because I recently realized I have a problem. So I got a question for you. And the problem, it's not it's not that I drink too much. That's not it. It's that I can't stop buying merch i uh been listening to kfc radio now for almost two years um and i'm probably averaging almost two pieces of merch a month so that leads to the question what is you guys's favorite piece of merch that you have got to see indeed that you wish you could bring back or you wish had a longer run great so. So just curious on you guys' thoughts. I was going to say, I noticed,

and this guy's wearing the Moon Man hoodley, the Sad Boy hat. He's got the Whistlepig bottle and the Sad Boy season glasses. And I was about to say, this dude's diehard. And obviously, that was the point. Our favorite piece of merch that has been C&D'd. That's a really great question.

I like the new template we have for the hymn stuff. Yeah. That got C&D'd? No. Well, but I was going to do it for Jason Tatum. I told Celtics fans I would do it for Jason Tatum, and merch was like, he C&D's everything, so it's not even worth it.

Interesting. What a dumb dickhead. I guess. I'm sure it doesn't even get to him. I bet it's like when you're a Nike athlete. Yeah, I know, but it's like...

I mean, he's Nike's next guy, right? Yeah. I mean, he's like the MVP right now at 24. I guess it's not up to you when you're in that level, but like I would be... This happens a lot

when like we hear, you can't ask this person this question. And I'm like, fuck that guy, fuck that girl. Who does she think she is? And then we find out and they come in and they're like i'll talk about it and it's like oh it was your asshole publicist or somebody who said all that so i don't know that's

also their job is to but like prevent you from embarrassment sure but i i if i was ever on that level i think i'd be like if if i found out that was happening I'd be like You can let Somebody like Make a t-shirt of me And that's a good thing Yeah You know Yeah that's how you get cult status

Right Fans like you Better than a fucking Nike jersey Sure More interesting I don't even Dude And the crazy thing

Is that the reason I thought of that Is it's so funny That like For 20 years Tom Brady didn't care So who the fuck are you You care Exactly That's kind of what I'm saying And it's also funny that like for 20 years Tom Brady didn't care So who the fuck are you? Exactly

That's kind of what I'm saying And it's also too The thing about that is I think people think That we're making a lot more money than we are Yeah Right Right

Did you get a cut? I'll give him a cut It's like $3,000 Yeah You want a couple hundred dollars? Here you go I think I mean Famous Friends Fridays were all awesome Yeah And we could only sell You want a couple hundred dollars Here you go I Think I mean

Famous Friends Fridays Were all awesome Yeah And we could only sell I don't know if we ever got C&D Because we pulled them down so fast We couldn't You know

So those technically got C&D Even though they didn't get C&D There was a Mets one That had Steve Cohen No no It had Gary Cohen

Keith Hernandez Ron Darling And howie rose as the four guys from the uh death row records the vibe cover were like tupac and they're all in black and it's just their heads and um gary cohen's wife and like company c and d it and like it was gonna be like the fucking funniest best and you know the fucking Mets play-by-play guy C&D's it. That's crazy. What? Are you kidding me dude? So that would have been fun for Mets fans

trying to think if I ever had like a bomb like oh yeah I'm gonna retire on this one and then found out it got the axe. It was weird. Oh I know I have a definitive answer there's only like 10 of these like worldwide uh the old school season one hoodie with 11's face on it oh yeah that got that got taken down quick if you are if you are uh one of those owners that's a that's a

relic and and that would have done with a me. With a note in the bloody nose. Yes. Because every season I would have just redone it, you know? So that one hurts. But it's a very cool hoodie. Fuck. Yeah, I don't really know. I guess I just don't really have a memory.

I'm sure I have great ones that have been seen indeed, but I can't really think about it. This is actually a better question for... What's up gang? Yo, what up? Oh, what's up girl? How we doing? Come on in. I'm having shoulder pain.

Come on in. How you doing? What's going on? Check in. I saw you recording. You were the first person I asked. I thought you guys were here. Really?

What's up? And they said no. They said no? They said you guys were in Boston. We hide. Were you just in Boston? No, never. Never? We weren't invited

That is not going anywhere it's it's it's right over my head and it's also right in the line of view from where our guests sit So they're always Yeah Thanks for stopping in That's ridiculous Colleen will take a picture of all of us no you are getting are getting in the picture! I'm not taking a picture of just me and John! Alright, we will take one, but then you have to take one. Just one. And like the picture's in it. Like this is cute. Yeah, you're like, you're the amazing sweetie.

Thank you! Aww, I love it! Wait, give me your phone. Oh yeah. Wait. Oh, that's a really cool jacket. I didn't see the back of it. I'm literally so glad you guys are here. I have to say my most favorite people in the office are you guys and Fran and Rhea. And I love Devlin.

And Devlin. And Devlin. And Devlin! And Devlin! I'm holding you like I'm Rob. Hand on the chest. Wait, one other question. Is Tommy here? Tommy smokes?

Yeah. Oh, boy other question. Is Tommy here? Tommy? Fuck off. Yeah. Oh. Boy, Nick, I was driving home from work today, and I live in Manitoba, Canada, and it's full-on winter here. And I saw a homeless guy begging for change in the snow, which made me think, how long could i be homeless for before killing myself because once you're homeless it's kind of hard to go back so um i'd say with me about four months of summer and then i'm checking out but uh let me know what you think i do think i remember when occupy wall street was going on yeah and i was like winter, bitches. You guys are all fucking mighty now. But when it gets cold out here, you guys are going the fuck home. I feel like if you were homeless in the summer, you're like, all right, I got the lay of the land.

I could do this. And then winter comes. There's a whole other ballgame. Yeah, but that's why, like, first of all, we established just last episode, I'm a fantastic homeless person. I do enjoy the cold. I can't wait for winter to get here. It's still not fucking here. Yeah, but you have a house. I do have a house. I can't wait for winter to get here. It's still not fucking here. Yeah, but you have a house. I do have a house.

I do have a house. Staying outside is a different story. Big point, yeah. You have money to eat and a house. Do you have heating? Do I have heating? I have... My heating will fucking knock your tits off. Yeah, New York City apartments are too much. I leave my windows open all winter.

Did you see kelly keegan at the hotel no she put it on 75 degrees what i was like this is illegal what i she said all you fat buddies goes all you fat boys look at this like i i told her i said listen we could be soul mates and that would be a deal breaker. Yeah. Like, if Kelly Kings was my dream girl, and then I found that out, I'd be like, we're breaking up. We're done. Oh, you fat boys wouldn't last a minute with me.

Such a green fucking thing. That was when I was telling... Scroll down. Dogs are fine. He's like, wouldn't want to or something like that, right? Yeah, we wouldn't want to. It's criminal. I was telling Pat the crew

coming to Killington, and I was like, it's Caroline and Keegs and Clemmer and Vibs, and he goes, not an ounce of body fat there. Your boy's carrying all the weight and pulling the sled for the crew. Literally. That's fucking hilarious.

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Love this girl. She's called them before, right? It is just crumbling in my hands. It's a monstrosity. Cranberry sauce stuffing everywhere, all over the plate. Not even edible at this point. Got me thinking, what is the absolute worst food you could order on a date? And what's the best food?

Let me know. Great question. I have been taught since a young age. My father used to teach me. No. No lobster, no spaghetti. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think I got that from your dad. I don't think I I never did it, like I would never do that myself

But when I heard that from you I was like that is a good like fucking rule It's either disgusting to eat Or it's gonna get on your clothes Lobster? It's nuts It's nuts that they serve it That the People want to have to fight Through the fucking shell yeah yeah it's

crazy but there is something weird when it comes out i don't think so but no just definitively when it comes out right like when it comes out you taste better no no no no i'm saying when it comes out naked when it comes out like you're like eh it's not real like there's there's there's something in your brain that goes off a little differently As long as it's actually fresh I will say you know what sir You do that for me I do like when you get a good chunk And it all comes out

Like the claw or whatever When you do it right it is kind of satisfying But no you can just It's like cooking your own food too It's like just fucking cook it for me I don't need to do the fondue I don't need to do the open fire Just fucking make it for me I don't need to do the fondue I don't need to do the open fire Just fucking make it for me

I guess anything that Smells really bad Like if you If you have Like Indian food Gives you bad breath Or your farts are bad That's a bad idea

Yeah I've had some bad toots The I think the I can speak for experience Buffalo wings You should say I've had some toots I've had some bad toots

Yeah I've had some toots Are you fucking three? I saw a very funny clip of a podcast. I don't know who it was, but it was three black guys and they were talking about how white guys say the word fuck,

like the way we say it. And then they also, so they were just getting on the differences and they started making fun of us for saying poop. He was like, I had a guy the other day say I had to poop. And I was like,

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I was dying laughing. It was so funny. This guy's over here saying toots. The, I guess we can experience college buffalo wings. It's a good girl,

like 25 cent wing night or whatever. Bad idea. Never heard from her again. Cause like anything where you're like, like licking your fingers and all that. Yeah. Disgusting.

It's like the sounds, the ribs, the wings, all a bad idea. Soup is a slurpy one. I think also taco. Like if you're like scooping and like trying to, you know,

anything where it's like, get a fucking sandwich. Yeah. Get a fucking, get a chicken, a steak or a sandwich Anything where it's like. Get a fucking sandwich. Yeah. Get a fucking, get a chicken. A steak or a sandwich. Chicken that you cut up with a knife. Like, done. You know, figure it out.

And also, but, and like, saying it all out loud, it sounds so like crazy and nitpicky, but like, if I'm on a first date with someone and she's eating something gross, I'm done. Really? Oh, yeah. I don't give a shit man oh yeah this is to me that's a one-way street you could order a fucking pile of dog food it's all good dude particularly the licking thing i was just doing oh the licking's kind of if you're fucking like sucking on your fingers i'm gonna find you i don't know actually sucking on my fingers depends on how i don't know what kind of fingers i'm talking talking about, bro. All right, interview time.

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You've seen, I mean, you've, I guess, you know, good for career, but I don't know about the mental side of things. You seem like the worst of the worst. Well, yeah, but when you go into crime reporting, and sometimes you have an interest in something, and the rest of it happens around you, and you hit upon a franchise like the Predator franchise, and it just becomes what it's become. And you learn because it happens transitionally you know it's not like all at once right i graduated from college and went to you know do the predator franchise or any of the other big crime stories we've done over the years but so you ease into

it and so you you sort of you know figure out a balance in life and how do you you know put it in perspective and and i've always been very fortunate to really not let it ever get me. Keep it separated? Yeah, I've seen stuff. I mean, we've been undercover in Cambodia where Americans and Western Europeans were going to brothels and abusing four-, five-, and six-year-old children. I mean, that stuff sticks with you. Yeah, that's exactly what I'm talking about. But when you do it and you win an Emmy for it and you realize that the attention it gets not only

funds NGOs to do that work again, but it also helps law enforcement solve other cases. So these things, one story goes out in a hundred different directions. And so, you know, people become aware of a situation. Oh, yeah. I mean, there's no doubt that you made a difference. You know, I mean, it shined a light on something that I think a lot of people, especially at the time when it came, like, when did that start?

Well, that was a different franchise. We did that in 04 and 08. That's a time where I don't know if everybody was quite aware of the internet. I don't think so. I mean, I wasn't. Yeah, how dark it could get. Yeah, how dark.

And how, you know, what's really going on. And then a show like that is like, oh, wow. I mean, we've always done crime stuff, whether it's been back when the Unabomber was active or all kinds of other breaking news. But the Predator franchise was a great example of getting inside and watching the commission of a felony. Right. And then this collision of justice and this awakening of the human being who's going to be accused of this crime,

who's trying to commit a crime against a child. Just one big collision of events that really became compelling. Is there any... I remember when I was watching the jinx on hbo about robert durst they had their piece of evidence like kind of like smoking gun but before they could do anything they needed to talk to law enforcement trying to make sure i would imagine like it would seem to me like what you were doing might impede on an investigation or could it potentially blow it for law enforcement like did you work with them to be like we have him you know dead to rights don't fuck this up sort of thing in the very first investigation we just had perverted justice the online watchdog group

operate as as uh decoys online posing as kids and we got a rental house and we put hidden cameras and microphones in it and i had security you know a a fellow who was former NYPD who did my security and Saturday Night Live and a lot of other stuff. And you just did this on your own? The first time we did. Yeah. The first time we did. Because we didn't know what we were going to find.

Right. You know, and honestly, I was driving out. We did this in Long Island, Bethpage, Long Island. And as I was driving over there, I got caught in traffic on the Throgs Neck Bridge. And I started to daydream. I thought, God, what if nobody shows up? What if I've just blown tens of thousands of dollars of the network's money? And with that, my producer called and said, where the hell are you?

We've got two guys scheduled to show up in 45 minutes. So over the next two and a half days, we had 17 guys surface in that investigation, including a New York City firefighter. So we did it and it went on air and the firefighter was prosecuted federally, but the other guys were in the wind, right? We did it again outside Washington, D.C., again, without collaborating with law enforcement. And law enforcement did, to its credit, come in and make these prosecutions later. This is where we had the first naked guy and the rabbi and the soldier and all these other people show up. And it became very apparent after that second investigation. Now, remember, this wasn't pitched by me as a long-term project.

This was a one-off from Dateline. This was just another crime story segment. And, you know,, 18 years later, it spun off into all these different franchises. In the third investigation in California, in Riverside, we collaborated with Riverside County Sheriff's Department, and 51 guys showed up, and

51 guys were arrested and prosecuted. They would come into the house, you would do the whole thing, and then they would just leave? In the beginning, yeah. Fuck. Imagine that. Not only house you would do the whole thing and then they would just leave in the beginning yeah fuck yeah imagine that so not only did it become socially irresponsible to not involve law enforcement it was unfulfilling yeah because for the viewer but it's like as a producer of television it's like okay this guy you know walking down the street after trying to commit they were committing a heinous crime.

Wow. That's crazy. So now, you know, all these years later, you know, the episodes we're doing for True Blue are a little different with law enforcement because law enforcement, different law enforcement agencies with which we work have different sort of protocols. So generally speaking, the guy walks in in i get a chance to confront them if they stay and talk which normally they do that conversation continues if they get jakey or leave then they're arrested and in so the cops are kind of like we'll let you do your thing yeah and then most for the most part sometimes the cops make the arrest and then i get a chance to really get in this guy's head which also is an interesting way to look at it. The purists, the followers of this franchise, want to see it the same way every time.

And it's pretty close to the way it's been, but you can't – you see these vigilante groups out there, and there's a definite place for citizen journalists, don't get me wrong. And there are a lot of them doing a lot of great work on podcasts and YouTube shows and whatnot. But in this area, almost universally, law enforcement discourages vigilantes from going out and trying to lure a predator. Now, some high-level guys have been caught, right, and faced justice, but they're hard cases to prosecute. So I've got to balance what is socially responsible with what is good television and compelling material that creates awareness and a dialogue that is very important.

I mean, you think about this for a minute. I had no idea when we started that we'd still be doing this particular franchise. I mean, you know, obviously I'm going to do all kinds of crime-related investigative enterprise stories. But during the pandemic, at the peak of the pandemic, the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, which is tasked with keeping this information and the social media platforms have to report it's federally mandated, the number of inappropriate contacts between adults and children online soared like 900%. Sure, skyrocketed. And when we started this, you know, we merely had decoys in chat rooms on AOL and Yahoo. And now, I mean, the number of social media platforms has exploded. I mean, I can't

even keep up with them. And you can have multiple accounts and burner. I mean, there's, you know, one guy could have 10 different things. And then it goes from the social media platform where they meet to the cell phone, to the, you know, to the DMs and the chats. And it's hard to track. In the beginning, they were all in, you know to the the dms and the chats and and it's it's it's hard to track in the beginning they were all in you know two or three different areas right you could use you could use tinder you could use some other stuff but you know generally speaking these aol

and yahoo chat room that really is kind of the dark side of technology i was pretending to be someone else in those as well i was we always joke about it. Yeah. My generation of kids, I was born in 85. I was a child at the time, so I'm good. If you were like an 80s kid, when AOL first started, we all loved the chat rooms. Oh, yeah. And something, for some reason, without even talking, without even having the true internet to connect, every young boy, adolescent boy, went into a chat room and pretended to be a lesbian girl.

We all did it. What's dad's garage box and getting the playboy magazine yeah that's all we had but that's a little more like you know that's just like boys want to see you know naked people for us to be like i'm gonna pretend to have sex but i'm gonna be a lesbian. I'm a 24-year-old lesbian girl from Los Angeles. There was some weird shit that went on, and we kind of laugh about it, but then there's the people who, I'm sure they took it two, three, and 10,000 steps further. And it's like, I mean, the internet can be a horrible, horrible thing.

But I guess as many opportunities as it gives these sick people, it also is probably that helpful to catch them, right? Sure, but it requires vigilance. And I think for a long time and still today, people think their kids are safe on the mainstream social media platforms. So we had a case, and we're going to roll it out on True Blue very soon, the new crime streaming network, that a 12-year-old girl was on Instagram. And a guy hit on her, and they went into the DMs. And next thing you know, she's sneaking out of her bedroom. He's flying up from Florida. They're meeting in a church parking lot. It ends up in a hotel. There's a sexual assault. She goes to the emergency room the next day. the sheriff's department in genesee county michigan actually traces this back gets video surveillance video at the hotel rental

car records the whole thing identifies the guy arrests him they brace him and he cops out to like two or three other similar crimes this is instagram yeah right it's not where you think you know yeah yeah you know they mean, everything can be used. Yeah, exactly. Any communication device. And these guys, you know, we do the podcast, the Predators I've Caught podcast, where I go back over these previous cases. And as you can imagine, on some of these things, I'm doing this on the fly. I get the transcripts last minute.

I sort of go through it. And, you know, I figure my way out of this situation or get as much out of the guy as i possibly can but when we go back and do the podcast i have all that i immerse myself in it and what you see is this pattern of grooming that is routinely used and i don't know whether there's a place on the web where guys go to learn this or whether it's just the same grooming that goes on and in you know person-to-person interactions but it's almost like a script you mean almost like a script like you know if a guy is trying to uh you know go after a boy oh are you gay what have you done you know it's hard to come out it's hard you know i can help you i can teach you and

you know all that sort of it's a girl yeah you seem really mature for your age and boy you're really pretty are you sure you're only 12 or 13? And it just, you can see them using their adult mind to bend the mind of a child. Yeah, of a child. Ugh.

What level of credit do you give yourself for making this a mainstream known? Because I know the reason I ask that is I was just watching A Friend of the Family,

which is the show on Peacock about Bob, I gotta forget. Abducted in the Family, which is the show on Peacock, about Bob – I've got to forget. Abducted in Plain Sight is the documentary on Netflix. Right, right, right. And this is the Peacock show about it. And I was talking to my parents because it happened in 76, I think. Right. And I was like, did you even know back then?

Did you use the word pedophile? And they were like, no, we did not. No. People were weird. You don't hang around that guy. But no one was like, these are pedophiles. I can remember the first time it ever came on my radar, I was caddying. I grew up in suburban Detroit at Forest Lake Country Club.

And Big Joe, the caddy master, got all the caddies together. I was 13 at the time. He said, now, I know some of you guys hitchhike to work. I mean, people hitchhike routinely at the end of the day. And if a guy picks you up and ever puts his hand on your lap or anything like that, just get out of the car and go away. And I was thinking to myself, who would do that and why? I mean, it just didn't register with me that that was a thing.

And then you followed away, and then all of a sudden, years later, you're doing stories on this type of activity. I wonder, again, the Internet enables so much of it. Right. But it also is, you can get caught. And so you think back then, was there more, like, it's probably less of it happening just because they don't have access to them. Right. But the ability to get away with it, you know, is like. The Oakland County child killer, which was a notorious case in the area where I grew up when I was in high school. And it was a guy or two guys who were kidnapping boys and girls, sexually assaulting them, killing them,

and leaving their bodies scrubbed to be found by authorities. And it was a vexing case, and it shattered the confidence and calm of the community. And later met some of the people whose kids were victimized in this and did some stories on it as a local reporter in Detroit and later at the network. And, you know, thinking back to the time, it really didn't register that, again, anybody would take part in this. It was crime, obviously, but it was crime was, you know, motivated by money or, you know, rage or jealousy or drugs or whatever it was. But this targeting children, God, it's just, you know rage or jealousy or drugs or whatever it was but this targeting children um god it's just

you know horrible do you um you kind of treat them with a level of i don't want to say respect but like you you let them you know talk and you have a discussion and you know i mean i don't know if i would even have the the couth or the tact to not just be like, you sick motherfucker. Well, and I've done that too, you know. But the way I look at it is this. I mean, anybody can jump out of the bushes and create 10 seconds of dramatic television. My job is to get in there and get inside this guy's mind. And so if I'm patient or I'm toying with him a little bit.

Do you, like, sympathize with him ever to do that, though? I think I've seen a couple of things that made me sad. We had a guy who was, you know, 19 or 20 who, you know, went on about being overweight and this and that, and he suffered from depression, and he's just trying to meet a girl. And, you know, yeah, for a minute you can feel sad. I've felt that watching it, and I get mad at mad at myself yeah but what happens if this guy does you know assault a child and what's the difference by the way between a 19 year old doing this and a 39 year

old this isn't a high school romeo juliet situation this isn't nailing a 17 year old for trying to get with a 15 year oldold who are both in high school. These are cases where it's clearly an adult preying upon a child. And to me, there's no gray area there. What about those other situations, though? I feel like you see that every now and then where I do kind of go like, well, I was kind of in that.

I see those things and I don't think that... As a freshman, I lost my girlfriend to a senior. I get it. They should all be prosecuted. At least that guy. Put him on the list. Well, I think what happened was, like so many things in the criminal justice system, occasionally you go so far forward to combat crime,

which is, we can all agree, an important thing. But it's like the over 650 grams of cocaine or heroin, should that person go away for life if they're 17 or 18 years old when they get popped with the heroin? Probably that's unnecessary. If you've got somebody who's 17 dating a 15-year-old and they're sexually active, they get caught, should that 17-year-old who's a senior have to be on the sex registry for the rest of his life because he had an intimate relationship with his girlfriend who was a sophomore i think that's romeo and juliet situation and that's wrong the kid should not pay the price

that's a almost a parental issue yeah yeah yeah and and those laws vary from state to state but when we talk about a 13 14 12 13 14 or 15 year old boy or girl getting hit upon by an adult to me there's no gray area right that's a crime yeah yeah yeah um i mean we wouldn't if we saw somebody approach a 15 year old and we confirmed they were 17 we wouldn't do it i mean 19 20 is are there ones that uh i don't remember seeing you ever like cut a or like have you ever been wrong and been like oh we've never cut? Or have you ever been wrong? No, we've never cut. By that point, there's like a million examples of evidence, right?

There have been cases that initially did not get full treatment in the piece. We had a guy come in in Riverside who obviously had a scar on his head and he was slow. And so he was shown as a guy who came in to meet a child but we didn't get into the whole thing he wasn't that articulate but some weeks later the same guy shows up in long beach california in a separate investigation and we learned he did a year in jail for a violent assault well this guy's making the movie right right you're gonna be in the show do you ever have someone come in where you're like, oof, that guy is big.

I wish he was smaller. Yeah. I mean, I was in Petaluma once, and a guy walked in, and this guy was in the Navy, and he had taken his shirt off because his thought was he was going to get in the hot tub with a girl. And he comes around the corner, he got past the barrier, which happens sometimes, and I think he saw the sound guy first with the boom, and then he saw me and I came out.

And we came face to face, and he tensed up. And he's way, you know, I'm a fairly fit guy, but this guy was really built. And it went like that, and I said, you know, you don't want to do that. And he just saw his muscles. You're like, I wish you were a fat depressed 19-year-old. I mean, I would dance. I had Ronnie Knight, my security guy, right there. The police are all around.

So, you know, the reality is, sure, it's edgy, and could something happen? Yes, that's the nature of the beast when you're doing these kinds of stories, but it's about as safe as you can possibly make it. I mean, a lot goes into it with barriers and barricades and just sort of being aware of what can happen. And if we know, if somebody in the chat is saying, I never go anywhere without a gun, I hope you don't mind, I'm bringing a gun with me, or any talk like that, or we find out that there's a violent background, the police are going to arrest him before he comes

in. We're just not going to, you know. That is not my kind of game, by the way. No. Just so you know, I'm going to bring a gun. Yeah. But we've had it happen. We've had guys, you know, a guy who, for instance, was a Marine sniper, said, I'd never go anywhere without my gun.

Well, you know. What the police handle that one? Get you to the driveway, and it's, you know, the team's responsibility at that point. Yeesh. What do you, I mean, I think in recent years, true crime has become, like, just even the phrase true crime, I feel true crime has become a thing. You guys were on that wave way, way earlier. Yours was more current and unfolding. We infiltrated the commission of a crime.

People would see it as it happens. Now, obviously, we can get video of things after the fact and police video and body cam and all things like that but you know very rarely did you ever see somebody in my business who was there as this was going down and took part in the questioning of the person yeah so that's i think what made it uh so compelling especially right i mean it's probably expected now but do you get a little jealous we're like i've been on this yeah like no i think you think you were the first i feel like you were the first i don't know if i was the first i mean

people are doing a lot of good crime reporting for years and doing investigative reporting and hidden camera reporting and and but as far as that like kind of viral or like popularity wave of like everybody talking about it? We hit this and continue to do it in an environment where things become viral very quickly. Yeah. And I've been very fortunate in my career to establish a brand. And so when I do something on Tracy Hudsona, the con woman who built Jumanah Kidd out of $3 million and opened up some restaurants and the chase and all the bad stuff she did. And it becomes a part of a Chris Hansen franchise to go after these people and hold them accountable. It's not just the

predators. It's all these other crime that they're doing. And so it allows us to have True Blue as a streaming crime network and within that True Crime Nation, which is our new news magazine, and because I've been doing it for 40 years, I can go to most law enforcement agencies and say, hey, look, I'd like to do this. Will you guys help us out? And generally speaking, they do. Whether it's a predator case or the case of this poor woman from Charlotte who was found dead down at Cabo and all these other cases,

the case in Idaho of the kids who were slaughtered by whomever. I mean, all those cases, when I walk into a police department, typically they're going to give me as much as, if not more than anyone else, because there's this trust there. There's this, you know, feeling of, well, he knows what we do. He's not going to screw us over. I don't have any bad blood with law enforcement. I mean, if somebody does something, as in Minnesota, where they kill somebody, that cop is going to be held responsible. But that would be the same for most responsible law enforcement people around the country anyway. Is there ever a moment where you're conflicted about's i'm sure you've done well and it's

a franchise and a brand and money and success but it's obviously the worst thing in the world you know yeah when you hear of a new case or or or particularly you know there was the guy who had like the condoms or the naked guy or the ones that jump out where it's compelling tv sure and so part of you might be like like well that's gonna going to be good. But also you're like, well, I'm a realist. And so I know what makes for compelling television. And I also know that by putting it on television or streaming it,

that it creates awareness and a dialogue that's very important. And if you can get inside that guy's mind and understand the mind of a predator financial sexual whatever and then hear the voice of a victim you can better prevent other people from becoming victims and i'm fortunate because i have the ability to take people into places where they get to see things they wouldn't normally see or hear things they wouldn't normally hear and that And that's a gift.

It's something I've worked very hard for, but it's a gift. And so it creates compelling television. And in terms of crime, you know, these stories are as old as the Bible. It's good versus evil. And it always is interesting to people to do. It continues to be fascinating to me. It is interesting that you say that, like getting into their mind, because I think of the Netflix show Mindhunter,

where in the beginning they're like what are you a pervert like why why like just lock them away lock them up throw away the key don't get in their mind like no this will be helpful in awareness and prevention and all that kind of stuff well it does make a lot does it uh has there been a drop or because i i think this is something that's so primal and like so fucked up that even when this show comes out and people are getting caught, I think it wouldn't stop anybody from their urges. We now have people say in the chats, and we've got literally 20 new episodes ready to roll out on True Blue. We were down in Polk County, Florida, and we had people in the chat say, is this a Chris Hansen deal?

Like, you have to tell me? You're a cop, you have to tell me. Yeah, first of all, that's a fallacy. I don't know who thunk that up. That's just not true. I've got dope, but are you a cop? So these guys would say that, and the decoy would say, you know, who's that?

He'd say, oh, this guy's on television, and he works with the police, and they grab people like me or whatever. And no, no, no. And they show up. Like, what? We had a guy. Double jeopardy, you know? We had a guy.

And I just screened this piece before I left my office to come over here to chat with you guys. This guy's Matthew Bonjean, right? He's a 40-something-year-old who's in a chat room, and he thinks he's in a scenario where he can have sex with a 12-year-old girl, with the permission of the mother. This is in Polk County, Florida. He's in Florida

on a training seminar for his company. He's in from Hemet, California. And they pop him. I get a chance to interview him, and I go deep with this guy for 30, 40 minutes. Jesus, really? And it's like a Silence of the Lambs moment.

He's like, I said, do you think this is funny? No, but I'm just nervous, and I've seen your shows before, I never thought I'd end up on one. I said, well, what did you think was going to happen here? He walks into this bathing suit, he wants to go for a swim with this girl at a hotel pool, and the Sheriff's Department of Polk County, led by Grady Judd, pops him. They're very active in this world.

And my mind is spinning because obviously this guy's going to tell me everything. Where do I go next to keep it on track? And you don't want to jump down his throat necessarily because you do want him to keep talking. And, but you want to hold him accountable. So you walk this fine line

in these interviews sometimes to, you know, try to get everything you want and keep it on track. God. That is, that's,

I, I, I have a buddy who's a lawyer and he worked child predator cases for a while, and he had to stop. He couldn't do it anymore. Well, it is, and I get to step away from it.

I mean, in the criminal justice system, and I don't mean to sound like the announcer on Law & Order, but, you know, these people have to live it. You know, I don't have to view the images of child pornography. I thankfully have never really seen much of it and because it's it's it takes its toll the FBI agents and I've known a lot of agents and local law enforcement we have to look at this because somebody's got to testify and say that it is in fact child porn his his thing too was he's like he's like if he had a lot of regrets in quitting yeah because he was like someone's got to do it right and he felt like he's like I do

it like I you know what what you're doing is is in every sense of the word That's in quitting because he was like, someone's got to do it. And he felt like he's like, I do it. What you're doing is, in every sense of the word, heroic, but it has to. Well, I've been able to keep it in perspective, I think, for the most part. But the other area of this that's important is that this isn't a glamorous part of medicine, treating these guys, right? Yeah. So if you spend $200,000 on a medical degree, do you want to be a plastic surgeon over on Park Avenue?

Sure. Or do you want to go into federal prisons and spend your day with sex offenders and talk about what makes you tick and how many times have you viewed child pornography before you offended and you got caught for this one crime, but how many others did you do? I mean, it's not a glamorous part of it.

Thank God there are people who do it. And so we have some insight into who needs to be locked up forever, who can be treated and monitored, and who can be, you know, wrapped under the knuckles. Do you sympathize in that regard? Like, I know there are people who believe that pedophilia is like a you're born with it and you can't control it i think for some people they're that way i think there are stone cold predators and pedophiles who will operate no matter what and these are the guys who were doing it before the internet they were at the shopping mall food court or the little bad little league coach preying upon the single parent child. I had one of those.

Yeah. I mean, they're out there. And the bad teacher, whatever. And then you've got the young guys who are opportunists who probably can be given probation and some treatment. And there are treatment protocols for the right person that work. And then you've got this group in the middle, right, these guys who are predisposed to sex with a child, and they wouldn't act on it, but then they get going in these chat rooms and they blur the line between fantasy and reality

and they get hooked up in the anonymity of the Internet. A lot of people say things online they wouldn't say face-to-face. Right. And then the addictive quality of it. The next thing you know they're knocking on our door. They blur this line between fantasy and reality and they just can't control it. There was a case a few years back

in New York. The cannibal cop. He never acted on it but he had like letters that he had written that was like we're going to skin you and eat you but he never did right and i thought that was kind of interesting it was like i mean on just a logical level i want this guy locked up yeah but on like a legal level it doesn't seem like the

guy you want you know running the traffic light yeah right got the white gloves on. Yeah, true. But, you know, on a legal level, it's like, can you, is that, you know, if you were to just chat, you know, obviously all of it's terrible, but it's like, where does it actually, when does it become a crime? When does it cross the threshold? Well, in online crimes, it's the solicitation of a child. So in most cases, the crime in my cases is committed online. Right. Whether they show up or not. In fact, they will in these sting operations after they do the undercover part of it. They'll always have three or four or five guys who committed a crime but didn't show up, and they go out and get them later. So it's a fine line. I see what you're saying.

Where does fantasy. Yeah, like if you were to just chat. Yeah. And never take it further. And you're like, that's how I curb my urges. That's still illegal. If you commit the solicitation of a minor for sex, if you knowingly if you think you're talking to a minor. And you're suggesting if you're suggesting a meeting for sex. Okay, so that's what I mean.

So if you're talking to a minor and you're just like telling a story about sex, would that be illegal? You probably wouldn't cross the threshold. Interesting. I mean, you're right on the edge. Right, right. Is it weird to you how weird some of the laws are? And I'm going to reference again the Friend of the Family show I'm watching where Bob Birchtold is his name. He is trying to get the – he's basically blackmailing the parents to allow him to marry the girl because then it's not a crime that they've been having sex.

Is that kind of stuff – is that still real or was that changed i i think in some states um the age is lower than it would normally be for consent if there's a marriage if the parents sign off on it and again i don't i'm not an expert on the laws in every state i mean i just remember you know the story of jerry lee lewis who recently passed away who married his 13 year old cousin the reporter asks you know about this shocking revelation he said well i done married her, didn't I? So in that culture at the time, I'm not saying it's all right, but there was a gray area.

There's a lot of examples of that. And you go back, even celebrities currently, and like 20, 30 years ago, they married someone this age or were dating someone that age. And it's like, not that long ago, shit was right there. Well, it was... I guess in Hollywood, it's the not that long ago the shit was right there you know well it was it

was i guess in hollywood it's the worst to be honest yeah i i mean illegal is illegal you know and uh i think there's a difference between somebody who um you know is is of age dating somebody who's older and somebody who was groomed while they were underage into a relationship that was sexual. Is there one thing that jumps out as the most like they all go through or a piece of similarity? I think I think it's the grooming. It's the you know, when I was growing up, police and parents would say, don't talk to strangers. Good advice. Then good advice today.

But the problem today with the Internet is the guy who's a stranger on Wednesday may not be a stranger on Friday. And so they're good at manipulating, and they're good at finding the vulnerable portion of that population. They'll look for somebody who is from a challenged home life or somebody who is broken in some way that they can take advantage of that or unhappy at school or just purely involved, having some feeling of adolescent angst. You know, they prey on that. And that's what you see as a similarity with all these guys. So Casey Anthony's coming out with,

or, well, there's a documentary coming out with Casey Anthony in it, which I'm sure is going to make major waves. When something like that goes national, like Casey Anthony or Brian Laundrie and the girl he killed and all that, like, do you... Gabby Petito. Gabby Petito, yeah. Do you, like, dive into those things, Do you dive into those things? I do sometimes.

The other two examples I mentioned on the breaking news, the Cabo thing and the Idaho thing, we're involved in those right now. The Petito thing, yeah. I mean, it's a shocking case. And, you know, just my heart goes out to her parents. You know, and... How did Casey Anthony really get off?

Like, that was one that I think I was too young. I don't know if the internet was really where it's at, where everyone knew the details, but it's like, it seems like it was so open and shut that there must be more that the general public doesn't know. I remember reading that she said,

they asked, she said the nanny did it, I think at the time she was waiting for the nanny, and they asked what her name, the nanny's name was, and she said Zanny, and I was doesn't know. I remember reading that she said, they asked, it should have been Nanny did it, I think at the time she was with Nanny, and they asked what her name, the nanny's name was, and she said Zanny, and I was like, guilty. Zanny meaning Xanax.

That's what she gave the kids, Xanax. I interviewed her parents four or five years ago when I was doing Crime Watch Daily, a syndicated crime show, and I did not, after that interview, have any suspicion that they had any role in this. Really?

Because she's currently blaming her father. Meaning that you think they did have something to do with it? Meaning I don't think they had anything to do with it. Oh, okay, okay. I think that they were, you know, as concerned as everybody else, and I think she was, you know, she had a hand in it in terms of what happened in court and the think she was, you know, she had a hand in it in terms of what happened in court and the jury, and, you know, you never really know, and I never interviewed any of the jurors involved in it, but I don't think, my impression from interviewing the parents,

and it was a long, emotional, two or three hour interview, just within the last three or four years, was that they didn't have anything to do with it i think they're really yeah and you see a lot of this after the story trying to sell a different angle of it and already in the casey anthony thing i i uh and i didn't cover it personally but my sense from reading the news accounts was that the judge is called bullshit on it already saying that this is you know this is not well it's it's wild i i believe that they said she doesn't have any editorial control over it. And I'm like, how do you think this is going to go for you, Casey? Right. You know, I don't think this is going to go the way you want

unless there is some sort of smoking gun compelling reason that sounds like there's not. But, you know, what's even the play there? Well, I don't know whether she got paid for it. I don't have any insight into it, but my sense is that she probably doesn't do anything unless it benefits her. And my gut is that, you know,

that could potentially involve compensation. That's Scott Peterson. Well, he's guilty of his homemade sin. Yeah. I mean, again again it's not a it's not what if you were just like love the guy

yeah exactly yeah we should we should pull together back in the night I guess the bigger question there is what do you think of where true crime sociopath

documentaries have kind of gone because there are you can watch certain things that it's like wait a minute this seems fucking crazy right

and then you realize oh wait they left this out or left that out. I've seen the staircase was one where it was like... They left out that he did it to two other women. Well, making a murder. Yeah. We have the same studio, transition studios that I work with on True Blue, have the flip side of making a murder, and it's compelling. Really? You're going to see that it's done Murder, and it's compelling. Really?

You're going to see that it's done now, and they're out. I'd love to see that. You'll see a sampling on True Blue in the not-too-distant future, but Sean Reck, who's the director and the filmmaker on the thing, who's my partner in True Blue, has been working years on this. I never thought that Making a Murder was as much of a compelling case. Well, it was one of the first ones, but he's got smoking gun documents

that take you inside what really happened when they made that film, the original one. And this new film is going to be cool. A newsmaker. I'm very excited to watch that. That's what we almost need. Almost the anti- Yeah, it's the opposite side of it.

100%. You need a new wave of documentaries that jump on the ones that everybody believed or saw. Right. Because a lot of these things, you know, when Netflix came of age, right? And I've danced with Netflix about different projects over the years and been to the mothership there in Hollywood and all the things. But a lot of these filmmakers were not really journalists no yeah and so so they have a point they have a point of view yeah which is fine if that's your documentary but you need to be painfully transparent about your uh about how you do it right you know we but even in the predator franchise today and 18 years ago, you know, we were not criticized, criticized, I guess, for working too closely with police or, you know, what we're doing or all kinds of different things.

And mostly it was old school, you know, members of IRE who were saying these things. But, you know, we were always painfully transparent about our methodology. And this is what we do. And this is who works on it. And this is what happens. And, you know, nothing was left behind. And it isn't today. I mean, everything is right out in the open.

Right. So you can not like it, but you don't have to watch it. But I'm telling you exactly the way this went down and how this guy got into that situation. Yeah. Right. Do you think that you, like that true crime like, you sound like a true crime podcast, if that makes sense. Yeah, well, I have one, so it's convenient.

But what I'm saying is, do you think they started because of you? Like, it's almost like, like, when you do, why do you do our podcast? Well, that's what Rogan does. And that's, you know, he kind of started it. Why do you talk like that? What's how Chris Hansen talks? Right. And it almost, like, it sounds exactly like it's supposed to, if that makes sense.

Well, it's. You're the Dateline voice. You're the. Well, Dateline's got a lot of voices and good. You know, those guys are. You know, I was 21 years there and great experience and all that allowed me to do what I do today. But those guys do a great job. Keith and Josh and Dennis.

They're good pals. But I think there's probably some similarity in the cadence of the storytelling. I mean, I came, when I went to NBC in 1993, that's how long ago I went, I was a local reporter in Detroit. And so I wasn't necessarily used to doing long-form stories. And it was a bit of a transition for me. I mean, they were vested, and I was lucky to of a transition for me i mean they they they were vested and and i was lucky to work with people who cared about me enough to see that there was potential and to

kind of teach me how to do it it's not down a dirty minute 30 like leading the you know the five o'clock news in detroit at channel four right or channel seven so what do you do to relax man i uh what's the what's the off day for Chris Hansen? I'm big into exercise. You know, I go see a trainer. I enjoy playing tennis. I enjoy running. I enjoy reading, spending time with my wife and

our extended family. You ever cut loose and just, like, rage? Like, is there Chris Hansen? Not anymore! Those days are gone. I've had my fair share of that over the years having fun, but, like, not anymore. Those days are gone. I've had my fair share of that over the years, having fun. But, you know, no, look, my kids are 31, 28, 23, and 21. So, you know, I have two stepkids.

We're blended, and everybody is great and doing well. My oldest is in television production. He lives in Brooklyn. And the next one's a television reporter in Orlando for the Fox station down there. And so, you know, those two and I get together, and we criticize each other's hard work. But it's fun. It's fun for me, and I didn't push him into it, you know. They sort of just gravitated towards it.

But, you know, one is definitely a behind-the-scenes guy and is all into the Brooklyn scene and loves that, and the other is, you know, on camera. How strict was he? The other's a prima donna? You know on camera how strict was the other supreme Madonna the talent I was uh are you like no phones no internet I'm watching what you're doing you know I remember it was funny because when uh I at whatever age I set for the kids and their mom set for the kids to get a phone. My oldest son became that age and went to the store at the mall and got him a phone. And the younger one is two years younger. And the guy says to me, well, we're having a two-for-one sale.

I said, well, all right, we'll get him one too. And my oldest son was like, hey, will you make me one? I think they were 13 and 11 or something. I know that's going to happen with me. Their numbers are still sequential today, so I can remember them. I'm trying to track them down. But I think I was reasonable about it. Because when you see the dark side of everything, you start to freak out every time.

You do, but you can't bring that home. No, but it's like it'd be hard. It is hard, but, I mean, they grew up in a pretty protected environment. And, you know, as a father, and you guys know or will know at some point perhaps, that the whole trick to being a parent is to get your kids to do what's right or what you want them to do and making them think it's their idea. And so I took them along on things. And while I was away a lot for work, we did a lot of cool things together, whether it was skiing, which I love and I find very relaxing. And I imparted that onto them and they enjoy it today.

To boating or whatever else, whatever other family things we did. So I felt that I was connected enough to them. Where, of course, you worry. You worry. I worry today. I worry when Connor's covering a hurricane in Florida, but I can't make him all hyped up about that. How crazy is it that they make them stay in the fucking hurricane?

Well, that's their job. But no, it's not. You don't have to be in the middle of a hurricane to talk about the hurricane. When they have that poor bastard who's in the wind, like, we're down here in the hurricane. Sometimes it gets a little extreme, but I think they're pretty good. Before he was in Orlando, he was in Oklahoma City, and they had to take tornado classes because they were right in the thing of it.

And he never saw anything too serious tornado-wise. And I always joke with him. I said, you know, in all my years at the network, when I was tasked with occasionally having to cover breaking news like that, the joke was, if you don't want the hurricane to come to your town, send Hanson. Because if I went to Mobile, it went to Pasca Luce. If I went to Gulf Shores, it went to Miami. Wherever it was, there was always, you know, my crew and I were having a beer at some gin joint someplace,

you know, because we couldn't get to where the action was. The hurricane was a hundred miles away. Never, never, never. Not once. Not once. 40 years. John Bonetti, Ramsey case, what do you think of that? I think we're going to learn more about that.

Really? We've got, we've got, I'm affiliated with CrimeCon. And one of my senior producers on True Blue is at CrimeCon. CrimeCon is like, as you can imagine, Comic-Con for crime. And it's a big deal. So they had John Ramsey was actually there. And I met with some people who've studied this for a long time. And I think there were potential, I don't know if conspirators is the right word,

but people who could have been involved in a crime like this were living in plain sight in that community, who never rose to the proper suspicion early on in the case. And I have more questions than answers like everybody else. I covered it early on. Was it 95, 96, I guess, when it was happening. And I'm just now getting around to get back into it but john ramsey was was was at crime con this year and spoke really um and um is that like a casey anthony thing where he doesn't do anything doesn't benefit him

i don't think it benefits him at all i think i think he wants to find out what happened and i think there are people who are very familiar with that family and it's a town boulder if you've been there you know that it's not a high crime town so it's easy to you know commit something heinous if you wanted to but but i'm led to believe that there was a network of people who had sexual interest in children and there might have been some sort of ringer activity, and this might ultimately tie back to that. But so just like, I hate to say good old-fashioned, but it was just regular pedophilia ring?

It wasn't like family members? That's one of the theories. And again, I can't definitively— Sometimes it's just like there is no reason why other than there's pedophiles in that town. A collision of events and human beings came together at a you know diabolical time for a very horrible crime and it just had the all the perfect storm elements of raising a ton of questions you know the crime scene the crime

scene was mucked up the the girl was involved in the entertainment fashion show world at a very young age. The questions about are you over-sexualizing a child and making her a target. Oh, it's a Nancy Grace dream. Yes, it's a Nancy Grace dream, exactly. So, you know, it was the perfect storm. And so there's so many things that were shouting out at us as reporters. I mean, did we miss something? Did the police miss something?

Obviously, because it's gone unsolved for all these years. The last case that I took interest in was the serial case that the podcast, which I thought was cool because it was not only the case itself, but that also like like, the podcast medium basically exploded because of that. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. So it's, like, twofold of not only the true crime, but also the entertainment side of it, where it's like a whole new industry was born out of that. And the podcast part of, you know, my world has become very important because, you know, obviously people follow it for the retrospective take on the cases, but I also talk about what's happened to the fellow since then.

And it's also an opportunity to talk about the new projects. And then I have people reaching out to me saying, hey, we have this problem in our community. We're a small department. How do we put this together? So then you get involved in that. And not only do you help that community, but you have the story of covering it. Yeah. And, you know, people are very loyal, and they're very interactive. And, you know, the questions range from specifics on a case to was that you and Starbucks in Cleveland the other day? Yeah.

And so it's very rewarding as a content creator to have that kind of a relationship with your fans and followers. Did you have any awareness when you first started that it was going to be as mainstream? No. I mean, you're a television show like Always Sunny in Philadelphia. Oh, yeah. You're in pop culture all over. And we're now in the third generation of kids. I mean, sometimes, you know, we walk into...

My wife and I will go to, you know, a high school graduation party with some friends. And we have a home here in New York City and also a home in suburban Detroit. So we're back and forth all the time. And these kids know all about it. Yeah. You know, I joke, you know, when my two oldest were in high school, high school, they went to school with a lot of kids whose dads did cool things. Sports team owners and ship builders and professional athletes and executives and Wall Street tycoons. And so having a dad on TV wasn't that big of a deal.

Until South Park did the Chris Hansen Predator parody. Suddenly I was the coolest dad. Really? Something like that happens. Even the turten Predator parody. Suddenly I was the coolest dad. Really? Something like that happens. Even the turtlenecks become iconic. Yeah. There's a lot about you that is stuck. When the South Park comes out, are you getting in stride?

Are you laughing at it? Here's what happens. I was in San Francisco on a shoot. They don't tell you. The Simpsons does you. You go in the studio, put the headcans on, and they say, Okay, here's you know simpsons does you you go in the studio put the heads on head cans on and and they say okay here's your line lisa what are you doing no faster lisa what are you doing no faster no more chrysanthemums you know what's coming south park they just do it

right right and so one of my agents uh texts me from new york and says south park is doing it tonight it's pretty funny and so i'm three off, so I can't watch for three hours. He says, great, I'll check it out when it comes time here. And about 20 minutes later, it's taken a dark turn. Yeah, that's what South Park does. But it's also – It's fine. I don't – look, it means people are paying attention.

Look, I got the skin of, it means people are paying attention. And I, look, I got skin of, you know, rhino hide. Nothing bothers me. It'd be a hard business to be in if you're that sensitive, but they're, they're allowed to make fun of me. I think it's fine if they make fun of me because at the end of the day, it still raises awareness on all these different projects that we have. And a very important topic that, you know, will make parents and kids think for a second before they get themselves potentially in a position where they can be targeted. Amen, brother. That's hopefully the name of the game, right?

Well, we appreciate it. It's wildly interesting. So I thought I'd grab a couple of these and I'm going to send some more over. Oh, wow. I'll get everybody one of these

that is awesome that is I'll get you more I was in a I came out of a screen on the way over here so I

this is so sick I got more XL this is mine XL are you a large or yeah I'll take it

well these days that pays its bills these days I'm pushing XL as well. So obviously True Blue is the new. True Blue rolls out, and like I said, we have a lot of good Predator segments coming out, and they're in editing, and some are done. And within that we'll have True Crime Nation, which is a news magazine. We'll do a lot of different things.

And then we're doing these high-level documentaries, too, the Tracy Huitzana one with Jumanah Kidd, who was victimized and so many others in that. And the real great thing about True Blue is that it allows us to be nimble and react and jump in these stories. The last two big documentaries I did for Discovery+, and I love the Discovery people, I truly do, but the Peter Nygaard Unseemly Investigation and the Onision in Real Life, the guy on YouTube who was preying upon girls, were 12 months and 18 months to do.

Long projects, yeah. And there's an A meeting and a B meeting and a Greenlight meeting, and they pair you with a project. It takes forever. We have a documentary coming out. It's like the Tinder swindler. We are the Facebook fiend, right?

This is a guy who's preying upon women, young women, not just financially but sexually. Tinder swindler was a wild one. It's a great one. The financial stuff is crazy. Yeah, the financial stuff is crazy. This is not as big level financial stuff, but it's just as bad in terms of the physical harm that this guy did. But these women got together and they reached out to me on social media. And we started digging into it and said, there's a hell of a story here.

So now, because they were able to do that and we were able to react so quickly, there's a warrant for this guy's arrest. And they're going to jam him in the next couple weeks so this is this is how i'm law enforcement did what they're supposed to do and i'm going to try to take credit for that but it was not unhelpful that we were looking into this but we're giving a voice to people in telling stories that you know turning around in a matter of weeks as opposed to you know months or a year it's mind numbing how long it takes to do a documentary today yeah and so we've eliminated the bureaucracy of it so well we got a guy here who uh he started his a podcast called the case right and it was a missing persons in in boston and i think it ended up resulting in like a warrant down in north

carolina for a similar type thing. But if you, you know, if you get past all the red tape and you do it, like, you can, you know, you can make, you can, you know, make a difference. Although, let me ask you this. There was another documentary I liked, Don't Fuck With Cats on Netflix. Yeah. That kind of paints the picture of, like, this vigilante stuff. Right. cats on netflix that kind of paints the picture of like this vigilante stuff right but is that like was that also like the police were doing their work and you guys were just kind of like fans or or like are i guess my question is are people at home actually as like impactful in

some of these investigations as some of these documentaries make it seem i think so and i'll take you back to the the uh the case of tracy watsana, the con woman, master class con, been a con woman since the age of 15, according to her own family. Jumana Kidd, the former wife of Jason Kidd, who's a television celebrity on her own, really turned her home in Los Angeles into a war room and with her kids pieced together the financial crime and how Tracy Huitzana stole $3 million or thereabouts

from the kids' accounts, from her accounts, open credit lines that she had no idea about. And so that became very helpful. Now, the FBI and the NYPD did a great job on this case, and it resulted in a guilty plea on the part of Tracy Huitzana, who was supposed to be sentenced in November but claimed to have long-haul COVID. It looked like she had long-haul COVID when I approached her with a camera crew outside her restaurant in Phoenix, Arizona a couple weeks ago and driving around and vacationing and doing all kinds of stuff and partying at, you know, bachelorette parties in Las Vegas. Yeah, it's going to come back and bite her in the ass when the sentencing does come but you know it takes some gotcha bitch

it takes some yeah it takes some some advocacy work and it does i've seen cases that i've investigated where because the victims are in a vulnerable class there's a mistrust between law enforcement and there's a doubt sometimes on the part of law enforcement and the victim has to come forward and has to do it so the the fact that we can you know facilitate that and streamline it creates justice and and so i don't have to go through hoops and hurdles to get a crew i call sean wreck in cleveland i said i or ryan at the office i need conradrad on Tuesday in wherever. Put him on a damn plane.

And I have him. And it's your call on what leads you want to follow or what tips you believe in. I mean, we have an editorial process. And I can't just wake up in the morning and take off on my own. No, but you can go after it. I was doing an interview yesterday with an anchor in North Carolina. We got talking about this case in Cabo where the woman went on vacation and was killed, and they're trying to sort all that out.

And I was explaining what True Blue was and what we're doing, and she said, boy, that sounds like a reporter's dream. I said, yeah, it took me 40 years to get here, but it is a reporter's dream. I'm going to quit this shit and go work for True Blue. I'll hire you. I think you guys got a pretty good gig here. I'm not so bad. But, I mean, it's the same thing you guys are doing.

I mean, it's like you take it over and you do what you know how to do. Well, that is actually – And you create the platform. That's what Barstool does. We kind of cut through a lot of the red tape and bureaucracy and we just make the content. I mean, Dan Abrams is doing the same thing with Law and Crime. Yeah. You know, he's figured it out.

It's more trial-oriented a little bit. Yeah, but he's not Chris Hansen. No, I know, but there's only one. He's a good out. It's more trial-oriented a little bit. Yeah, but he's not Chris Hansen. No, but there's only one. He's a good guy. We collaborate with him. They've got a nice setup over there, too, and they do a great job. That's how you know you're above someone. He's a good guy. They all want to be you, Chris. They're not going to say it. I'll say it.

He's a good guy. He works hard. They want to be Chris Hansen. He's among the hardest-working guys in TV. I think I am the hardest-working guy in TV. He's right up guy. He works hard. They want to be Grissom. He's among the hardest working guys in TV. I think I am the hardest working guy in TV. He's right up, right next to me. He does a lot of good stuff. You definitely seem like it. And, you know, he's done a lot of good.

Well, we're not done yet. We've got a lot of miles left. So, True Blue is a streaming service? True Blue, T-R-U-B-L-U. You can start to get information on it next week at WatchTrueBlue.com. And within True Blue will be the new Predator Investigations, which we call Takedown. All the new crime documentaries we're working on. And we're going to do this news magazine, True Crime Nation, which I'm hosting.

Very cool. So it's a gradual rollout, but we've got a lot of great content being put together. It's like a true crime fan's dream. Yeah, I think so. It's not just my stuff. We have a lot of documentaries, a lot of different things. That's where the Making a Murder one's going to be? The opposite.

They're working on that now, but some portion of it or some version of it will ultimately be on True Blue. Very cool. I've seen clips. Yeah, your eyes light up when you talk about it these guys work i'd like to take credit for it but i can't um but they really have done a hell of a job here and it's uh it's really something so awesome fantastic Thank you so much. សូវាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប� Thank you. Bye.