KFC Radio - CCK Podcast: Cola Wars

Episode Date: November 18, 2019

Coke vs Diet Coke vs Coke Zero. The Root Beer debate. Dr Pepper is trash. What exactly is Cream Soda? Krispy Kreme Cheeseburgers. LaCroix's big miss. Is Jared Carrabis bad for baseball, PFT joins to make the accusation. Myles Garrett helmet smash repercussions. You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/kfcr

Hey, KFC Radio listeners, you can find every episode of KFC Radio on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. If they don't give me proper credit, I just walk away. They can beg and they can dream. We're back. We're talking about pipe dreams over here. Trying to get rich. And what we would do if we got rich. We got a call from a fellow from a little place I like to call Saugus.

Oh! Saugus, Massachusetts. John is on the line. What's up, John? What's going on, Kevin? I know who exactly you're talking about with the fountain. You're talking about Mr. Deeds with the Hawaiian punch fountain. Yeah, maybe that's it.

Maybe I just went straight fictional. I thought there was someone in real life who had it, but definitely when the movies are doing it, when they're like, okay, let's have a fictional rich person and what are the things they have, and they would do that stuff, that's what I would do. I would try to make the movies come to life. Probably McDonald's.

Yeah, maybe Wendy's. For me, I feel like I would want to get like a Bud Light distillery. Sure. That's what I was saying. Maybe not like a distillery, but I would want like Bud Light on tap in my bathroom. Champagne, Bud Light, vodka. Espresso, like pre-mixed, ready-made espresso martinis on tap. Let's go.

I would go Taco Bell. Yeah, that's a good one too. You know what I would have? I would have the food court at the mall. Yeah. Complete with an Asian man giving out free samples. Samples. Yeah. You come to my house to party.

You just get sesame chicken on a toothpick. Some days you say no thank you. Right. Some days you're like, oh yeah, I'll take one of those. And he makes these and I'm just like, no, get out of my way. Get out of my, sesame chicken on a toothpick. Some days you say no thank you. Right. Some days you're like, oh, yeah, I'll take one of those. And he makes these and I'm just like, no, get out of my way. Get out of my way. Come on, come on. By the way, I had an idea once for a book, a movie, a show, or a scene.

You poison the free samples. Oh. Kill a whole mall's worth of people. Yeah. I don't know. I've never heard of it. No, no. Yeah. I don't know. I've never heard of it. No, no, no. I mean, maybe.

But I was talking more about, like, you know, it's probably, like, not enough to make, like, the basis of a whole movie, but maybe, like, an episode of, like, uh...

No, no, like, one of those shows, like, like, uh... Maybe one of those shows, like, uh, The Blacklist, where it's, like, there's an overarching theme,

but every individual episode is like a criminal. You know what I mean? Like one episode of a long series is like, why are all these people at the mall dying? And it turns out that they're poisoning the samples. I know. You could kill thousands. Isn't that the one that like wives put in their husbands like slowly? Yeah, the Black Widows.

Yeah. Yeah. That was a Desperate Housewives storyline for a while. Put a little ricin in there. Yeah. I know a way to take out a lot of people without being noticed. What's that? I said I know a way to take out a lot of people without getting noticed.

Do tell. Well, I'm not going to tell you because someone will do it. It's very easy. Well, I've always said if you want to kill all of Barstool Sports, just poison pizza. Yep. You send over 100 boxes of pizza and everyone's like, oh, free pizza today. Everyone croaked.

It is amazing. Too bad Deadspin's dead. They could have actually killed us if they rallied the troops and did the right thing. It doesn't happen here as much, I feel like, because normally we have like Daniella or Spider making the big lunch orders. But the old office, all the stuff we would be sent that just nobody questions. Like the day we got all those cookies. People questioned it and still ate it.

Yeah, I was like, this this could be bad but it looks good yeah like the one day that somebody sent us like a billion cookies and nobody knew who they were from especially those because it's like baked like a pizza box is like alright this looks like it just came from a pizzeria but like this was a home baked box that like at the very like

it could just be weed like at the very it might not even be like we're trying to kill you but all of a sudden you might just be like whoopsops, I got myself poisoned. And just nobody here. Just tell us your idea. I wouldn't care. Oh, canned soda. Just fucking tell us.

Canned soda. What about it? I mean, you could easily put poison on like, I mean, that's the only thing where it's like a stranger has access to the part that you put your mouth on. Any type of beer. Any bottle. Any can. No, if you have to pop the top off the bottle,

it's cans. You put your mouth on the thing that's exposed to anybody. I mean, at any point, if you're manufacturing a drink, I can rub my poison on the inside of the glass and then put that. If you're a manufacturer,

I can just go to any store and poison all the things in the fucking fridge. Yeah, just wipe it down. You can do that with bottles too. No, you can't. You probably wouldn't get it as good where you'd probably be able to get it around the top

and maybe you get it in their mouth. You could wipe it right on there. For sure, I have access to what you put your mouth on. Yeah. I love a good can. Love a good can. I like my hierarchy of soda.

Of course, the glass bottle, like Mexican Coke, that is cold. After that, a frozen, like a freezing cold can. Yeah. Then fountain soda to me. Then, like I hate the 20 ounce like plastic bottle. It depends on the type of soda. Okay. So you want to go glass bottle, Coke,

fountain soda would be McDonald's Coke, but canned soda, orange soda. Orange soda. In a can? Freezing?

Yes. Do you like Sunkist or do you like Fanta or do you like Crush? Sunkist. I think I'm a Crush guy. I don't even think they make Crush anymore.

No? I like Crush and I like Sunkist. Fanta is like the Johnny-come-lately like new age and I'll drink it, but OGs, no. Sunkist, crush, fuck yeah. Yeah. There was a vending machine at this place on City Island called The Morris, which is

like the yacht club there, but it's like, quote-unquote, yacht club, which is where fishermen keep their boats and shit, and it was like 35 cents for a can of soda. They never changed the price. It was like an old school vending machine. And I could just load up and get freezing cold orange soda to my face. I feel like orange soda is one of those drinks where if you drink it, everyone judges you for it. It's definitely a little kid drink. It's definitely not disgusting.

What? It's definitely not disgusting. You don't disgusting. What? It's definitely not disgusting. You don't like orange soda? I don't. Deplorable. Yeah. I also think that black people like it a lot, right?

Isn't that like Keenan and Kel thing? Oh, no. Kel just loves orange soda. Yeah, but I also feel like it's like purple drink and the orange soda drink, but I love it too.

Oh, they just walked in with Popeyes? Is that what that is? Yeah. Those sons of bitches. I think the stereotype is grape soda. Yeah, grape soda,

but I feel like, which, by the way, you ever fuck with that? No. I used to do a Welch's grape when I was a kid. Welch's grape juice. No, this was like grape soda. Oh, the Welch's grape juice is good. You know what I liked back in the day? They don't do it anymore.

Is a glass bottle that's like the grenade type size. Yeah. You know those? Yeah. The fat and stout? Those don't exist anymore. No. I also miss just good glass bottles in general.

Do you know Snapple's plastic now? What? Fuck that. Is it really? Snapple bottles still look glass. They actually do a good job making it look like it used to. And then you grab it. It's like, oh, that's plastic.

Is anything... And then you can't give it the good... You smack the bottom and it pops the top. You can't really do that anymore. Snapple used to go so hard. Snapple was a thing that... That was a big sign that I was old. I always say one of the signs that you're getting old is when you start to like unsweetened iced tea.

Because I used to hate it. It was disgusting. You like unsweetened iced tea. I need a lot of lemon, but I don't like the sugar. And now when I drink Snapple, I'm like, oh my god, this feels like I'm just chewing on sugar. It makes me feel like... I hate sweet tea. Growing up in the South, like that's what everybody does.

Like I had to have unsweet tea. Growing up, my parents were like, what's wrong with you? You're a kid. You're supposed to like the sugar. Like when I used to make iced tea with like the Lipton and I would just like scoop it in. Same thing with the lemonade. It would be like I would put it in a pitcher and like the bottom like third would all be

the powder. Now I go unsweetened, loaded up with lemon. Unsweetened iced tea. if it's made right. The right way. It is so good. I can make a good unsweetened iced tea. Like when I go to like brunch in the morning or when I used to when I was like social

and hungover and stuff, I'd be like, give me a water, a iced tea with extra lemon and a Bloody Mary and like let's get this train fucking started. That's still my order. Because the water you need need to just survive. The iced teas for a little bit of a taste and then the Bloody Mary to get you going.

And the Bloody Mary's got to be pretty spicy. Are you a black coffee guy? I'm a no coffee guy. No coffee guy. Yeah, I don't fuck with coffee. I started to become a black coffee guy. Why is that? It was just one random day.

I think it was on the Spikes Up tour. We were just like at... Do you enjoy it or are you just like choking it down like I have to do this? And do you do hot or cold? I feel like iced.

Hot. Iced black is weird, right? I like iced black better than hot black. Really? I like to put like a little bit of milk in hot. I can drink black either way

but iced black goes down better. It's just coffee. I mean, I've done this fight a million times. It's bean water. It's dirty bean water

and then you put milk and sugar into it? No, sugar in coffee is disgusting. What kind of combo is that? It's delicious. The milk, well, the milk in a hot black coffee

just like takes away the bitterness. Like, I'm not pouring like a whole bunch of it. Like, I literally will pour like half a shot in it and it just takes away like the bitter taste of it.

Yeah, it's just like, oh, I need something to change the taste of this because it tastes disgusting. Yeah. Yeah. Just don't drink it. Just don't drink bitter taste of it. Yeah, it's just like, oh, I need something to change the taste of this because it tastes disgusting. Yeah. Yeah. Just don't drink it. Then that's why Starbucks figured out you just start putting like a pump of pumpkin in it.

And then you're just eating like a caffeine milkshake, you know. It's just like, well, this is not coffee at all anymore. This is like you're eating. Oh, no, no, no. Kevin, what you're doing, you do an iced coffee with skim milk, just a splash, and then literally just one little pump of the pumpkin. Golden. Pump that pumpkin.

Pumpkin spice latte season? Come on. I don't even know how we got here. Back to orange soda. It's fire. You're wrong. It's fire. So good.

Very traditional. Who loves orange soda? Who loves orange soda? He was dead. Is it true? Is it true? Is it true? Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Oh, dead. Is it true? Is it true? Is it true? Oh, yes, oh, yes, oh, yes, it's true. Ooh.

What a time to be alive because we were, like, watching that while drinking orange soda. Oh, yeah. We were still, like, in that phase, you know? Yeah, there was an episode of Kenan and Kel where they did, like, an x-ray of Kel's body. And, like, his insides were orange. And, like, my goal was to make my insides orange. I was like, I want to drink as much orange soda as Kel. How often do you drink

it now though? I feel like it's a very rare occasion. It's like a specialty for me. Like sometimes it just catches my eye and I'm like, I'm doing it. And the old office. And I'll chug it. I used to get it like every day for like an extended period of time. Like with your lunch? Yeah, like I was on an orange soda kick for like four months. Wow.

But since we moved offices, it's like- What I'll do is I'll get, all right, I'll go to the deli and I get a sandwich and chips and I want a Coke for my meal, but almost my appetizer is just a can of orange soda to the face. Yeah. Love it. Just bam, in two gulps, it's gone. I love orange.

It's burning because of the bubbles, orange all up in my mouth. Love it. It's not burning because of the bubbles. It's burning because of the chemicals. Whatever. That's another thing too. Coke Zero, greatest invention of the bubbles. Orange all up in my mouth. Love it. It's not burning because of the bubbles. It's burning because of the chemicals. Whatever. That's another thing, too. Coke Zero, greatest invention of all time. Why?

I don't understand how it has zero calories. Chemicals, Kevin. It doesn't make sense. It's actually way worse for you. Yeah, but guess what? You'll be skinny. I don't give a fuck. Oh, it causes cancer?

Whatever. I'm not getting any calories. The chemicals in it are... I mean, I don't care because I don't drink it, but the chemicals in like diet and zero calorie sodas are like, it's horrible. I mean, it's magic to think that they like still, and Coke Zero doesn't have that diet taste. Yeah.

It just tastes kind of like a regular Coke. Zero calories? Let's fucking go. I don't care if I get the brain cancer. Give me all the calories and give me the sugar. Who gives a fuck? Then I die. Okay?

Nobody makes it out. Then I die. No one. A regular Coke just I die. Nobody makes it out. No one. Regular Coke just is better. Oh, of course. But I mean, it's got 200 calories in it. You're going to get

fucking fat from it. Who did the taste test with all the different Coke and Diet Coke and Coke Zero? Someone here did this? Yeah. I didn't know that happened.

It was in the old office. I feel like I would be able to do that. I don't think you could. Well, what are we talking? It's like Coke, Coke Zero, Diet Coke, and then Pepsi, Diet Pepsi, and then there is – I don't know if Pepsi has like a – Yeah, like – I can definitely tell the diet from the right now.

Yeah, for sure. But I don't know. Like if I took a sip of diet – Everyone says that, and then like the people that did it could not do it. If you put – if you tell me that it's all Pepsi and Coke is all mixed up, I don't know if I could distinguish that. If I took a sip of Diet, I would be like, this could be Diet Pepsi or Diet Coke. I also think that once you – I would almost need to do them with plenty of time in between because once you start – I don't know. Diet Coke tastes disgusting.

Yeah. I would definitely – if you told me it was just Coke products, I could tell you which one is Diet, which one is Zero, which one is Regular. Yeah. It's within the brands that obviously it becomes difficult. But, I could tell you which one's diet, which one's zero, which one's regular. It's within brands that obviously it becomes difficult. But if it's no branding, it's easy. We should try that. Just do it on radio. I think they say it's – Dave does them all the time.

He's like it's harder when you're blindfolded. You don't realize it. But I mean diet versus regular, no problem. No problem. I could probably figure out just – yeah. Like if you stuck to one brand, I could probably tell you which one's which. I would almost,

I would really sincerely hope so. Yeah. I think that sounds pretty easy. Now, within that, is it Diet Pepsi or Diet Coke? That I can't tell you. Yeah,

probably not. My grandma was a big Pepsi person. I don't mind Pepsi. I like Pepsi. I'm fine with it. I just, I buy Coke, but like when I used to go to her house,

it was Pepsi. I was like, okay. I don't think that there's a person on Earth. Once in a blue moon, I'd grab a Pepsi on purpose. Do you ever drink Dr. Pepper? No, that's trash. Dr. Pepper is trash.

That's disgusting. Dr. Pepper, disgusting. Cream soda, disgusting. No, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. Disgusting. Vile. No, no.

Vile. Vile. No. Like horrific. No. Horrendous. No, a good root beer is just beautiful. I mean, I would rather drink like sand than root beer.

IBC cream soda. And what's cream soda? What's the difference between root beer and cream soda? Disgusting. No, no, no. Incorrect. What is it? There's cream soda out of a, like an IBC cream soda out of a glass bottle.

This is so gross. To die for. By the way, complete side note right now. I need you to look at what's going on outside. Looks like Barbara with a blow up doll of John Cena. Complete side note right now. I need you to look at what's going on outside. Looks like Barbara with a blow-up doll of John Cena. She's into this John Cena blow-up thing. Good for her.

It's been going on for a while. John Cena's a handsome man. Can't see him, though. Did you see... I didn't see. Can't see him. Yeah. 833-85-STOOL is the phone number of people. I can't believe you don't like Dr. Pepper.

Oh, it's vile. No, Dr. Pepper's trash. Dr. Pepper is for the... Like, Cherry Coke? Disgusting. Dr. Pepper? Disgusting. Vanilla Coke?

Disgusting. I don't mind Vanilla Coke, but it's... Do you drink Cherry Coke? No. I was going to say, I will chop your head off and we'll be done with this show if you drink Cherry Coke. I can't trust anybody who likes root beer. I won't work with anybody who drinks Cherry Coke.

I love root beer. You're pushing it, okay? No, I'm not. You are. That could be a problem. Root beer is very common. You and I are done professionally, all right? Relax.

I've been a root beer guy for a long time. Absolutely vile. And root beer floats? Yeah. Fuck out of here. I would. Ice cream in there? What?

I love root beer floats. So gross. No. Love them. No. Yeah. Very good. Milk and ice cream and then you put soda into it?

It's very good. Completely disgusting. No. I'll find somewhere right fucking now that'll bring me a beer float. 8-5-stool is the phone number. We got phone calls about soda, and we got phone calls about TF and some BCs. Oh, let's fucking TF some BCs. You want to start there?

Yeah. Okay, let's do it. Connor from Virginia. You TF and BCs or what? How we doing? Well, let's do it. Connor from Virginia. You TF and BCs or what? How we doing? Well, we're good. It would be a lot better for TF and BCs. Honest to God.

I missed the show yesterday because I was working, but I caught Deke's quote. Could you give me a little bit of context about the conversation? About TF and BCs? Did it come up organically or somebody just called in and called me a dickhead? Oh, you're the big dick guy? Yeah, unfortunately. Yeah, no, the guy called in and totally mocked you, remember?

You heard that, didn't you? Oh, no, I remember that, but I saw a quote from Deke saying, you guys were talking about the subject yesterday. Yeah, we all continue to universally agree that you're a dick, but that TF and BCs is awesome. Next call.

We got... I'll get this – I actually don't even think that that guy came up yesterday, but what an ego trip for him to call up a day later. I heard you're talking about me again. Like retell the story to me. Get the fuck out of here. All he saw was that you guys were talking about TF and BCs and assumed that he was the guy. Dude, you were literally not talked about or thought about one time yesterday. No.

Not once. What an asshole. Almost as big of an asshole as this guy Mike from North Carolina. What an asshole you are, Mike. Tell him, Mike. Tell him who you are. Root beer. Kevin, Kevin, Kevin.

Yes? You and I are the same age. I agree with a lot of what you say, like 99% of what you say. You can definitely tell the difference between Coke and Pepsi, but you cannot be more wrong about cream soda and root beer. I'm a fool. Disgusting. That shit is delicious.

Dude, what is even... In a glass bottle, there is nothing better. Do you know what the flavoring of root beer is? I'd rather not know. It's kind of like what's inside a hot dog. I'd rather not know. It's sassafras. I don't know what the flavoring of root beer is? I'd rather not know. It's kind of like what's inside a hot dog. I'd rather not know. It's sassafras. I don't know what that is.

Who the fuck? It's a root. It's sassafras root. Who's that with a big old belt? Who's that, Jared? You know? MMA guy? Demetrius Johnson, Mighty Mouse.

Yeah, he's a small dude. He's the champ. Oh, 125. Shit. Damn. The belt is the size of him. That's crazy that he would just beat the fuck out of anybody in here. I mean, the only guy shorter in the office than him is Dave.

It's crazy. Root beer. Ingredients. Okay, I'm going to read off the ingredients, and you tell me if you're not going to change your fucking opinion. I'm not even going to listen. Vanilla. Love vanilla.

Cherry tree bark. Wintergreen. Molasses. even gonna listen to this. Vanilla, cherry tree bark, wintergreen, molasses, licorice, cinnamon. Those are literally all my least favorite things jammed into one drink.

I can't believe it's as bad as, I thought that, I never even thought it was that bad. I love cinnamon. It's disgusting. Cinnamon is the only thing on there that I like. Everything else stinks.

Licorice is terrible. Did you try that candy? No, I didn't. It was so bad. Lowering the bar has some German. Bibb's House of Horrors just keeps delivering, and it was some German candy. Of course, that fat idiot Feidelberg was like, eh, it's not that bad.

Like, you're disgusting. You know, Roan had a really good point. He was like, somebody thought that this is like the best batch. There are like bad batches of this circling, and that tasted like actual dirt. Sarsaparilla, sassafras, molasses, wintergreen, and licorice. Love that. No, you don't. Yes, I do. No, youasses, wintergreen, and licorice. Love that. No, you don't. Yes, I do.

No, you do not. Yes, I do because I love root beer. Nobody says I love molasses. Nobody. I love molasses. What is this, the triangle trade? Are you in the new world in the 1600s? Listen, Kevin, I love root beer.

I love root beer floats. I love root beer candies. You are a fucking asshole. No, I'm not. Nick from California, if you tell me you like cream soda, I'm shutting down the whole show for the day. What do you drink? Yo, shout out to all my cream soda drinkers, man.

No! No! No! The show is canceled. We're going to run an hour and ten minutes of dead air because you cannot behave yourself with your cream soda taste. It is a treat.

Disgusting. What's in cream soda? And a root beer. And a root beer. But hang on. I have one of those very specific situations. How about a Canada Dry ginger ale? Yeah.

Yes. That's a great one. Get down with a little Canada Dry, man. Can I tell you the problem? First of all, Canada Dry overshweps until the death. Guaranteed. That's a fact. Yes, sir.

Yes, sir. My problem with the ginger ale is twofold number one i automatically associate it with being hungover i associate it with like having like the flu i associate it with being on an airplane and i want ginger ale on air i also went through a like a heavy jack and ginger phase where it's almost like i can't oh no no no but good ginger ale over ice yeah oh and it like actually like pops because it's so carbonated. Woo! So good.

Yeah, that's sexy. Now, that take I can allow. That is super sexy. The cream soda, disgusting. Vanilla soda, like... Kevin! My man. What?

Next time you have a slice of pizza, next time you do a slice of greasy pizza... Absolutely not. Pour yourself a root beer... Never! You're off the airwaves. You're off. Pour yourself a root beer. Never. You're off the airwaves. You're off. I will not allow this ridiculous talk.

I'm with you, Kevin. This propaganda being spread. Root beer is maybe the most disgusting drink on the planet. I can't believe you guys feel this way. It is so gross. And to have a nice hot piece of cheese pizza with the crust on the bottom, nice and crispy,

and the melty cheese, and you take a bite, and then you wash it down. With licorice. You wash it down with licorice, and sassafras, and molasses, and wintergreen. Just a few days ago, I sat here and heard Kevin Clancy talk about how he's so relatable, and now you don't like root beer? I guarantee this is—

Oh, no, no. I bet more people are on my side. We talked about this in the office before. Root beer, not a big barstool drink. I bet you I'm in the majority. I don't think so. Root beer is from the Great Depression. No.

Root beer and cream soda is like your dad doesn't have a job. You got to have the right root beer. Like Barks is okay. Disgusting. All of it. Mug is great. All of it is terrible. IBC is fantastic.

I can't stand any of this talk. How about, did you ever have RC Cola? That's some poor people shit. No. RC Cola is really poor. My dad had a job the entire time. RC Cola was like 10 cents a can. And I used to go to the movies with my buddy's family.

They were poor. And they would like sneak in like snacks and stuff rather than pay for them, which I'm down with, you know. I love taking Taco Bell into movie theaters. I mean, that's. I've never done that. I'm certainly not above that. I love that. But then they would bring RC Cola and I was like, come on.

Did you ever get the three liters? The three liters? Not a two liter. A three liter. I used to get that with orange soda, and it has like a wide-ass mouth. It's like you're sucking dick. It's unbelievable. Oh, yeah.

It's great. It's a big bucket of like cheap-ass poor people soda. It's amazing. I love that. Mr. Pibb is the knockoff of Dr. Pepper. Yeah. And it stinks. But it's the poor people shit.

Dr. Pepper stinks. Yeah. The regular one's bad so then the poor people No, I mean that's just not true. But Mr. Pibb, the three liters of Mr. Pibb was like a thing in high school

that people would do and I'm like, what? We're going to a Catholic school. You can afford Dr. Pepper. Isn't Dr. Pepper the soda that's got 32 flavors or some shit? I don't know.

All of them are bad. Go through it. Go through it. All of them are bad. Go through all the trash ass flavors in Dr. Pepper. Dr. Pepper the soda that's got 32 flavors or some shit? I don't know. All of them are bad. Go through it. Go through it. All of them are bad. Go through all the trash-ass flavors in Dr. Pepper. Dr. Pepper flavor. I don't... I think that's Coke.

I don't think Dr. Pepper has 23. 23 flavors. Okay, let's see. Ready? And all of them stay. I mean, these are terrible. These are terrible. Wait, you like it?

I like original Dr. Pepper. I don't do any... Okay, well, this is Dr. Pepper. Flavored sodas. Are you ready? Flavored sodas areas. Cola, cherry, licorice, amaretto, vanilla, blackberry,

apricot, caramel, anise, sarsaparilla, ginger, molasses, lemon, plum, orange, nutmeg, cardamom, allspice, coriander, juniper, birch, and prickly ash. Get the fuck

out of here! Those are the 23 flavors of Dr. Pepper. Those are all disgusting. Yeah, so why do you like it? I like the original Dr. Pepper. That's the original Dr. Pepper. Those are the 23 flavors that makes Dr. Pepper. Yes. Yes! Disgusting. You hate all those things, but you like the soda? I don't.

I don't hate all those things. Okay, what's in Coca-Colacola let's find out i guarantee it's gonna be cola i guarantee you there's a lot of similarities because dr pepper and coca-cola like the original ones are not that much different no they are dr pepper is one of those things where even if if i was super thirsty i like a fourth of july cookout and i would reach into the fucking cooler and i pull out a dr pepper and it's like oh that's all we have left and it's like well i guess i'm going home thirsty. Thirst.

I would die of thirst before I drank that. We're going to hit our break. I also have a take on flavors that I want to echo the sentiments of my man, Big Daddy Trent. Keep mint in the bathroom. Mint-flavored food, mint-flavored snacks, chocolates. Fuck out of here. Mint chocolate chip ice cream? Trash.

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You got to check them out for yourself. Go to buyraycon.com slash cck. We're back. We're talking soda because it's the best drink in the world. I hate people who are like, soda's for children. Fuck you. No, it's not for children. Soda's delicious. But it's not better than wine.

Yes, it is. As a beverage to satisfy your thirst. It's like just having a nice dinner or anything like that. I don't eat and drink alcohol. I'll do a wine with a steak. I'll do that, but I also

like to have a drink that I can guzzle down. I agree. I can't do vodka waters with dinner. If I'm going to do it, it's wine. And I think wine with a steak works for me, but if I'm having. Or pasta. If I'm having a lunch, I need like a Coke or a soft drink. And you know what I do?

I've got it down to a science. Like if you give me a can, I plan out my sips like perfectly so that I know after my last bite, I'm going to have a good like one, maybe sixth left of the soda. It gets like a good like gulp gulp you know it's not like a big chug but it's not just like a little sip either it's like it's all washed i don't drink sodas i don't drink sodas not i just unless i'm really really hung over or i'm on an airplane i mean you're healthy it's just ginger ale on an airplane fantastic but you know what i still love which is i think pretty? I love cold milk. Just straight?

Straight cold milk. Like, you'll just go to the fridge, pour milk, drink it? Yes. My brother will do that. He'll house, like, gallons at a time. I love milk. I don't drink it a whole, whole bunch because it's like— What kind? I like 1%, but I'll do 2%.

Skim is too— Skim's too watery. Yeah, it's too watery. It's too cold for me. I know we got a holy over here. Yeah, big-time holy. I used to be holy growing up. You know what my mom – my mom was desperate to get us off whole milk because she like

thought we were going to become fat people because you don't understand. Like my house was such a milk house that my mom would buy four gallons at a time. Like the top shelf of the fridge would be one, two, one, two, just four gallons of milk. And we would just like drink it straight from the carton. We would drink it with milk and donuts and cookies or we would my brother. Is he back there? No. He would do Kraft singles. He would

eat cheese, chips, and milk. I mean there's nothing wrong with that. That actually sounds pretty good. It's pretty gross. I'll tell you what there is no better satisfying feeling than when you want milk and you can just go straight into the refrigerator and drink it straight from the carton. You can feel it like coat your chest when you drink it down.

I've never drank milk from the carton before. So good. Yeah. I mean, it's more the- The plastic bottle. Yeah. Like the gallon bottle. I mean, I will drink it from the carton.

People who still rock with cartons are funny. When you're doing like the, you're bending it, trying to get the triangle spout to come out and then it doesn't work. You have to spin around, do the other side. Also, you just have a whole square that's open. You're pulling the cardboard. It's a mess. I don't like when that texture gets wet.

Yeah, that's a little gross. I don't like that. There is a taste to that, too. The bottle of milk, which doesn't sound right, but you know what I mean. Yeah, the gallon jug. The jug of milk. The jug of milk. Yeah.

You throw that back right out of the refrigerator. Oh, man. And to me, there's no better feeling in the world to me than when you have peanut butter, when you have a donut, when you have a chocolate chip cookie, when you have some sort of warm pastry and you get a cold-ass

glass of milk. Oh, buddy. Oh, I know. That's sexual. I don't like to drink wine with sweets a lot unless it's like super dark chocolate.

So my new thing that I've been doing is I like these protein cookies that are pretty decent for you and I will put them next to my bed with a protein cookie, a glass of milk, a bottle of water, and then I finish it off with a glass of red wine after all the tastes are out of the way. Like I have the milk in the cookie.

Then I rinse the palate with water, go to my red wine. I mean, and it's a scene like if I, if like when I get up to go brush my teeth before I go to bed and I sometimes like just take a glance at my nightstand I'm like this is a very sad scene I mean that's a lot too and I will put it all at the same time so I don't have to get back up like I'm gonna be watching Netflix bring it all in at once there's one thing that is uh since we're on the subject of things that are childish that we as adults don't care are childish we'll still indulgent. Animal crackers. I've kind of come back around on them because of the kids.

Yes. Graham crackers too. I think, oh, let me get to that in a second. The animal crackers reminds me much of the plain donut in the sense that it's like not, you know, glitz and glamour, but it's just got good old carbohydrate flavor to it. It's just like I am just consuming carbs and my body likes that. Loves that. I've been doing the graham crackers recently.

What I did is I bought a pack of Hershey bars, like a six pack of like the bars, put them in the freezer, grab some honey graham graham crackers, and I do the s'mores just without the marshmallow. Yep. And I'll just take them to the, I get high, I get the munchies, I crush it, and I drink a gallon of milk. It's amazing. A gallon ofunchies, I crush it and I drink a gallon of milk. It's amazing. Not a gallon,

but I drink a lot. We have the miniature honey grams in there right now in the kitchen. That's how it got me on that. I had those and these are good and I went and bought

the big full-size graham crackers. I can eat like a whole set of those easily. What an underrated snack. You don't even need to put the chocolate, like that's just a little bit of honey, like the honey flavoring in there.

It's just a good snack on its own. Yeah, like the regular graham crackers that don't have the honey, it's like the regular Cheerios. Like, what are you doing? I didn't even know those existed, to be honest. Yeah, you can get graham crackers without the honey flavoring on it. They stink out loud.

Do you fuck with OG goldfish? Yes. The original blue. Not cheddar. Oh, no. Like, when you say goldfish, everyone automatically assumes the cheddar cheese. That is cheddar-flavored goldfish, because the original goldfish is like a soup cracker. It's like an oyster cracker or a clam chowder cracker.

Those are good. Those are underrated. I prefer the— If I'm going to be doing, like, cheddar snacks, you got to go Cheez-Its. Goldfish. Reduce-fat Cheez-Its. No, I still go—I think goldfish is the king of cheddar. I know that Dave has poisoned the well, and everybody thinks that Cheez-Its is the way to go.

Goldfish is the undisputed king. Regular Cheez-Its? Disgusting. No, those are awesome, too. I know that there's a difference, but I don't know why he always preaches the reduced fat. It is a huge difference. Huge difference, but it's just not as good. No, it is.

It's better. And they're crunchier. You can tell it. I don't like Cheez-Its at all. Really? Yeah. Do you like the cheddar goldfish, though? Yes.

Yeah, that's weird, because it's cut from the same cloth. I know, but I just like the fish. Do you like the cheddar goldfish though? Yes. Yeah, that's weird because it's like cut from the same cloth. I know, but I just like the fish. To me, the goldfish snacks, goldfish cheddar is like the remix to Ignition. You know?

Are we canceling it? No, I'm just saying like the blue plain one is like the original Ignition. Like nobody gives a fuck about that. Yeah.

And everyone just thinks when you think Ignition, you think of cheddar goldfish. Technically, that's the remix to the original. Also, Confessions. Usher. Confessions Part 2 is the one everybody knows. Yeah, Confessions Part 1.

Nobody gives a fuck about it. Alright, let's get to these calls because people are buzzing, talking about their soda. Nick from Detroit is on the line. He's a brilliant man. Go ahead, Nick. Hey, KFC. How you doing? I'm good. Prove me right. Alright, so here's what I gotta say. Dr. Pepper won. Trash. Absolutely god- to say. Dr. Pepper, one, trash.

Absolutely god awful. Trash. Root beer. If you drink root beer and you drink it regularly, especially if you match it with pizza, you should be in a mental institution. Disgusting. You're a horrible human being. Yeah, the fact that you said pizza, you know, it's like that's supposed to make it better. No, that makes it way worse.

Institutionalize yourself right now. Straight jacket, rubber walls, sedative, the whole nine. You need to, like, be checked out of the population. And it also comes from the fact that it's a disgusting drink. I'm not a healthy human being. I'm a bigger guy. I also drink enough Diet Pepsi a day to drown a small animal. I love soda.

Absolutely love it. I could easily do a taste test right now. Yeah, we're talking as soda Like sommeliers And we hate the root beer It's not like oh I don't like any soda We love soda it's just that root beer is trash And so I went and I looked up the flavors of Coca-Cola

Because you look at the Dr. Pepper 23 flavors They're all disgusting You look at the root beer and cream soda They're all disgusting Do you know what Coke does? Carbonated water, sugar, caffeine, phosphorus acid, and then just flavoring. Just cola flavoring. Yeah, but what's in the flavoring?

That's the good shit. No, no, no. It just says cocoa leaf extract. That's it. Natural flavorings, phosphorus acid. That's like the bubble is, right? Caramel, and then just cola. It's just like, it's his own thing.

It's just his own, Cocoa leaf or whatever. They don't fuck – When you start putting in molasses and cherry and winter greens, we don't need all those. I just want soda flavor. That's why Coke is just – Coke is soda to me. Coke, cola is the king because of that.

Everything else derives from that. That's why when they say that they lock up the recipe, it's like a bajillion-dollar recipe. It's like if anyone gets their hands on that, the whole thing comes toppling down because you can't get it just right. It's like, what was it? The Bush's Beans that had that recipe forever? What?

There was like the commercials where it was like only the dog knew the Bush's Beans recipe or something. I don't know. That's the thing, right? Yeah, those are great commercials with the dog that talks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. I knew I wasn't crazy.

It's a family recipe. You can't let it out, Kevin. Todd, he's from Atlantic City, so you've got to be a trash bag, right? People live in Atlantic City? How does that work? Oh, yeah, absolutely. It's so trash city, we have to deal with it all the time. What do you got from soda?

Nothing's better than ice-co cold soda from a cooler? Like an ice filled cooler, you go down, grab the soda. It's just frozen. That's gotta be a can though. Borderline, like the actual drink itself might be frozen. That's a move I used to pull very consistently as a child. I would throw a can in the freezer because I wanted it to be extra cold. I would forget about it and it would explode.

My mother would be like, you dumb motherfucker. You did it again. But a freezing cold can? At the bottom of a cooler that's filled with ice water. I always pour cans over ice. Even if it's cold? Yeah. No!

I don't like... Because ice waters it down. Only ice if you have to. I'm going to be talking... First of all, again, I don't drink them that often. So when I do, it's just. No. I don't like the idea of drinking out of cans.

Because it might be poisoned by Jared. No, I just. I mean, obviously a beer, I don't care. Because it's such a conductor. What is it? The conduction, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It just keeps it so cold.

That's why the plastic bottle never gets as cold. No. This guy. I feel like with beer. Edmond from South Carolina. With beer, it's like you're killing the germs with the alcohol that's coming out. Nothing's killing it in the Coke. Probably the phosphorus acid.

Yeah, I guess the acid probably. Evan from South Carolina, you're a top three idiot. How about that? So, guys, thanks for having me on. You're welcome. I feel bad. One of the biggest psycho moves

I've ever heard of anyone doing refreshment related was take a Coca-Cola and pour a pack of peanuts inside and eat slash drink it.

I guess it's a thing from the South. I was about to say that's a Southern thing and it is disgusting. Many people do that? I don't know if many people do it but him saying that it like, yeah, like, him saying that, like, it sounded completely like, yeah, I've heard of that before.

You pour in, and then you drink, and then, like, you get to the bottom. It's disgusting. That's disgusting. No. I'm telling you, something's wrong with you people in the south. Yeah, I know. I mean, I guess so. Peanuts in your soda?

No fucking way. No. These people, at some so. Do you have peanuts in your soda? No fucking way. These people. At some point, you got to draw the line. We as a society lost our way, and I'll tell you exactly when. I can pinpoint it. When was it? When they made the Krispy Kreme cheeseburger. The what?

Yeah, that's gross. It was like you can get your cheeseburger, but instead of a bun, they slice a Krispy Kreme donut on either side. And it's just like, that's not necessary. I like Krispy Kreme donuts. I like the burger. Not everything needs to be like an unholy alliance. You know, you got your bacon-flavored, like, apple pie or whatever.

It's just like, mm-mm, these things. Just because you like one and like the other doesn't mean that they're going to be good together. Right. Everything became Frankenstein's fucking monster with flavors and all the different ways you can... No, no thank you. Big, big important question coming up here. The phone lines are banged out with soda talk.

Because I'm posing an even more important question right now. This is where I judge you as a person and a friend. Seltzer. Do you like seltzer? I've never had seltzer. Do you like seltzer I've never had seltzer do you like seltzer yes

of course she does because she's a fucking healthy loser fuck seltzer you put some lemon and lime in a fuck seltzer and now drinking it

completely by itself with no flavoring in it I don't prefer that like I don't want to just do like a sparkling water you get a good seltzer and you put fresh lemon and fresh lime in it

it is so fucking good nope Nope, it's not. Do you like vodka soda? Yeah, but to get drunk, not for like flavoring. But you like the taste of it, then why don't you just do vodka water then? Sometimes I do. You would rather have a seltzer over regular flat water with vodka? No, because I do like a little bit of

bubble, but it has nothing to do with the flavor. Yeah, because there's not any flavor in it. I know. It's just like drinking water. I know. know it's gross you throw lemon and lime in it it makes that vodka soda pretty good bitter water i've never had a vodka water before i also just like bitter tasting things i like the taste of apple cider vinegar i i mean i tried to do the seltzer thing instead of soda yeah and it's just like it it is not, people are like, oh yeah, like, you know, mimics the flavor. What the fuck is this guy doing?

I don't know, Fidelberg's walking around with some stupid mask on. He is just, the masks are just on a whole other level. I will say, if you want to,

not that you ever are going to just stop drinking in general, I'm not either, but if I have a, just a glass of seltzer with lemon and lime with like a bunch of ice in it,

it'll completely curb me wanting anything to drink at that time. Yeah. I want it to be. Again, I can understand if you're drinking it to like be on a diet or avoid other things or lose weight or something. So you don't like like San Pellegrino or any of those?

Nope. When everyone's like, you know, you want bubbling or regular, I'm like, give me that. Tap water. Oh, I like tap water at restaurants. I feel like seltzer is for chicks. Topo Chico in the South. Oh my God. It's so good. That's fine. I've never seen a dude order a seltzer is for chicks. Topo Chico in the South? Oh, my God. It's so good.

That's fine. I've never seen a dude order a seltzer. Yeah, it's not. I mean, of course, we're generalizing and being stereotypical. The entire foreplay podcast drinks seltzer. But again, that's different if it's like you're drinking alcohol. Because club soda as a mixer is just like a thing. So I get that.

But it's not like. You know who really fucked up in the seltzer game was lacroix well samantha's on the line she's a chick i love lacroix how did they not come out with alcoholic seltzer yeah lacroix got big in the streets and then they got bodies they got bodied what do you got samantha oh yeah i don't understand how anybody drinks that unflavored carbonated water like Like, come on. It's just like trash. It's not as refreshing as like tap water.

You can't like chug it down the same way. There's no flavoring. All it is is just bubbly and burns the throat. Sometimes you just want bubbles. No. Oh, yeah. This dude that I used to go over and see all the time, he'd always offer me LaCroix afterwards. I'm like, I'm getting out of here now.

As like the refreshing like post-sex drink? Right. Yeah. Like a plain LaCroix afterwards. I'm like, I'm getting out of here now. As like the refreshing post-sex drink? Right. No, that's not cool. Like a plain LaCroix? That's not like curing your thirst. Even like the lemon ones. That's not quenching shit. I'll tell you what.

We had so much LaCroix at the Super Bowl house last year. It was beautiful. I mean, I feel like LaCroix is not what it once was. It was so hot in the streets. I mean, I still like it. The fact that they what it once – it was so hot in the streets and then – I mean I still like it. I just – the fact that they didn't do the alcohol version of it, it was just such a miss. I just feel like I think less of them as a company.

Like Truly came along and was just like, well – White Claw. Like everyone is using it to be a mixer. We're just going to do that for you. Yeah. I like LaCroix though. LaCroix was a big – I know Chaps was on it too, but I just feel like girls went crazy for it. And I've never seen a guy be like, let me get that case of LaCroix.

Never. Never try it. A lot of you guys – I mean obviously the two of you weren't, but there are a lot of people drinking LaCroix in the Super Bowl house. You know what's delicious? And I was – Root beer with vanilla vodka. I mean just get lost. Now you know what's funny?

Vanilla vodka is disgusting. Is I do – no, because I like that in the espresso martini. I use a lot of vanilla vodka. Yeah, but that's – it's not the main flavor of it. It's a little – it blends well with the rest of those flavors. But yeah, if you just drink vanilla vodka by itself, it's disgusting. That is crazy. You mix it with stuff and –

You ever have vanilla extract? Just like a little jar of it where you can like – What would you put that in? You put it in chocolate chip cookies. Yeah, when you're baking. But if you just like catch a whiff of it or try a little, it's like tar. Espresso martinis are different because you're just tasting espresso and getting drunk. Vanilla vodka on the rocks or with anything else other than espresso stinks.

It's just funny that when it comes to alcohol, all these things I'm saying I don't like, if you put alcohol in them, I'll probably drink them. I don't like coffee, but if I get an espresso and it gets me drunk and has a party going, good to go. It's also out of the same thing. Yeah, it's like I'm not going to like it, but it now is helping me get this poison into my body in an easy way. Let's do it. Moses? Moses is on the line. Okay.

How we doing? Good, man. Okay, so we can collectively agree on ginger ale. That's good. I have no idea how you guys don't like root beer, but let's just get to the point. It's pretty basic, actually, Moses. I listed off the ingredients. They're all disgusting.

Thank you. I don't know about that. Everybody has their own opinion, but blackberry ginger ale. Canada Drive, blackberry ginger ale. Guess what? You're gone. Goodbye, Moses. I will not even begin to tolerate that.

Blackberry ginger ale. Get off my airwaves. Get out of my country, please, Moses. I will not even begin to tolerate that. Flavored strawberry ginger ale. Get off my airwaves. Get out of my country, please, Moses. Blackberry ginger ale. I've never even heard of that. No, it's disgusting. I've heard of it. It probably stinks.

Blackberry, blackberry, all that shit. Any flavor of a soda is usually pretty gross. Right. It has to be. Like vanilla Coke. Gross. Right. I mean, I guess.

No. Yes. Vanilla Coke. Again, if I go to a fridge and I see the option to get vanilla Coke, like sometimes I'll take that option, but it's maybe like once every 10 times. Maybe fewer. Maybe like once every 20. Because they already have so much sugar in them.

That's the thing. It's like when you have like the, going back to like LaCroix, and they have a grapefruit LaCroix, it drastically changes the flavor LaCroix it drastically changes the flavor but it doesn't taste like you're drinking just like poison water yeah or alcohol yeah yeah yeah you know what I mean but like the like when you're drinking a vanilla coke or a cherry coke it tastes like you're drinking some sort of medicine because of how much shit is in it that's I mean cherry in general yeah I don't know why Robitussin and Big Pharma went with that flavoring. When the dentist asks you if you want cherry toothpaste.

Why would I want that? What psychopaths pick the cherry toothpaste? I want to rub cough syrup into my gums. You take mint. Meanwhile. Every time. Also, I don't know why bubblegum never took off. You ever do the bubblegum flavored shit?

Bubblegum medicine. I don't like it. Well, that. I went through a phase with pinnacle vodka. The whipped one? They made every flavor under the sun. That's what I was going to say. Pinnacle had all of it. It started with whipped cream. I could drink a bottle of that. They did birthday cake and they did

orange sickle, cream sickle, all that shit. I got to the point where if I drank that that i would have an allergic reaction and my throat would close up and i would break out in like casey hives basically and i can remember like not really figuring it out yet and we would do shots of it and all of a sudden like i would get like a taste in the back of my mouth would be like the number like the first sign and then i would kind of like start to like have like labored breathing and then someone would be like

what's wrong with like your neck dude and I'm like it's happening again I gotta go home he's turning into the Hulk basically

and it was like it was like a regular thing I just kept drinking cheap flavored vodka and I'd be like I gotta go get some Benadryl

I'm calling it a night seal when Pinnacle whipped hit the scene that was fireball-esque it was like whoa what I've learned and I've known this

about myself obviously by this point in my life I just don't like to drink anything sweet at all. Never have. I like to eat sweets. Because you're healthy. No, no, no. You give me a plate of brownies, I'm going to crush it.

Like chocolate chip cookies. But I don't like sweet drinks. But for some reason, Fireball stuck for a little bit, and now I think it actually might kill me. A little taste of whiskey in there for you? Yeah. I mean, the people who are over Fireball are over it. Oh, I told you.

I got the fireball flu in New Orleans. To this day, I have not even sipped it. I can't smell it. One of my 88 girlfriends carries a little thing in her purse. Yeah, I'll do it. I mean, it's better than the other shit that I don't really want to drink. Yeah, it's not not tasty. It's disgusting.

More sugar in one shot of that than a whole Snickers bar, fun fact. That's crazy. One shot. There's a whole Snickers bar, fun fact. That's crazy. One shot, one ounce shot. There's a reason why it goes down easy. It has more sugar than a Snickers bar. I ate a pint of cookie dough the other day. Okay. Nestle makes cookie dough to be consumed.

Yes. Which I think is a nice move. I don't know how long that's been on the market, but it's just like, they're just like, we know you're going to eat it straight up anyway. Yeah. So we're not going to put it in the tube like in a cylinder for the cookies. You're not going to just eat it out of the fucking jar. Didn't we?

When they're a company. So I just spoon it. Oh, it's so it's crazy. Somebody sent it to the old office. There's like a store in I think it's called Doe. Doe, yeah. In the city where it's like they have raw dough. City Feel does it.

And one of the greatest moves I've ever seen in my life, we were at a Mets game, I think it was for Barcelona, the ballpark. Game was a blowout. I think we were getting our dicks kicked in. Everyone was kind of miserable. And these guys, who looked kind of like they had some money, they went to the concession stand and they bought the tub of it. Like the stainless steel.

Usually you can drop them in usually it has like you go to a place and it has like all the ingredients in those like stainless steel things and they just had spoons and little girls it was like the pied piper they were just like following this guy around like wherever the cookie dough went the girls never got into the cookie dough game oh i love cookie dough wait what did you say you couldn't get the pint from it's at the grocery store. Because I like to get the little squares that you bake and just the Nestle ones and just eat that. That's exactly what it is. They just put it into an ice cream pint for you.

Oh, my God. And just spoon it out. That sounds like it goes well with milk. Oh, it's so good. And then maybe- Again, I do that. I'll get a little high before I go to bed. Spoon that in.

I hate myself when I do that. I've been trying to eat healthy and i have been eating healthy i'll go like the entire day no carbs and then i get the munchies and i ruin it all by having like just like three spoonfuls of that it's like well now you've had like 75 000 carbs and sugar i'm like well there's a whole day of like self-discipline out the goddamn window yeah i mean i just i just can't have anything in my house i did now the fact that i live in new york and I can get food whenever I want. Brutal. Chopped cheese at a deli 24 hours.

Ruining. Ruining my good diet. My mom used to take Oreos and all her favorite snacks and she would keep them in the basement. Because she was scared of the basement. She was like, I won't go down there at night. So I know. Well, that's smart. That, yeah, like late night. To me, eating healthy, discipline, dieting, whatever, is all about like what's going to win out.

Which part of you is it – which part of you is going to win? Is it the laziness that's going to prevail? Because like the only thing worse than my sweet tooth is my laziness. So if I just don't have anything in my house, I'm not going to get off my ass and go to the store and buy it. So that's the best method for me. But now everything can get delivered. So then it's like what wins out? Like your money? Like are you willing to spend money on it? Because if you're cheap,. But now everything can get delivered. So then it's like what wins out?

Like your money? Like are you willing to spend money on it? Because if you're cheap, maybe you won't have it delivered. And at the end of the day, I think I've learned that the sweet tooth prevails over all of it. I'll travel. I'll spend. I'll do whatever. That's me with alcohol. And it's the fucking worst.

Yeah, well, you have a drinking problem. Well, that might be true. But like if I'm at home and I know that I'm A, lazy or it's cold outside, whatever it is, and B, I just don't want to spend money for any reason and there's not wine in my house, it's coming. I'm either getting it delivered or I'm going to go out and get it. I get insomnia like twice a week. Oh, insomnia. Insomnia was brilliant. Brilliant business model.

I don't know why there's not – they're still kind of rare. They should be in every city. Yeah. Multiple ones all over. You can get home-baked chocolate chip cookies delivered right to your fucking door. And cold milk. Yeah, they have the milk, and they do a dozen. They do the one that's 36, and then they make the one that you can get 800 cookies delivered

if you get it catered. Yeah. And it's just home-baked cookies. Fuck yes. We got a really funny tweet from our guy Trashman Ronnie. Uh-huh. He said, CCK has broke me.

I'm getting a root beer and an orange soda because it seems like I haven't drank them since I lived in a trailer as a child. I will report back after I have a flashback to my trailer park days. Yeah, I mean, my mouth is straight up watering today thinking about all the things that I I just wanted to talk about. I mean, I had a salad. I need a salad. And a Coke Zero.

Apparently, Blackberry Canada Dry is a great mixer with Pink Whitney, we're being told on Twitter. I mean, Pink Whitney, you don't need to mix with anything. Just drink the Pink Whitney. Soda water. Seltzer water. Just put a little bubbles in it, you're good to go. You haven't had Pink Whitney yet?

No. You should probably get a shop for me right now. Actually, it's funny. When I went home a couple weekends ago, I went back to my parents' house and there were two bottles in the fridge. Your parents are die-hard. Ride or die, mass hole barstool.

Two bottles of Pink Whitney in my parents' fridge. That is extremely not surprising and very telling. How's your adopted sister? She big into barstool? We don't talk. I think she's probably found a real family. We don't talk. I don't know. I think she's probably found a real family.

We're going to take one call before our break here. Joe from Detroit's been on the line for a little while talking about our guy, Frank Fleming. Frank, the tank. What's up, Joe? What's up, KFC? How are you doing today? Good, man.

So, underrated soda also. I should say pop because I'm from Michigan is squirt. Squirt's always good, but it's a once in a while thing. Squirt? Squirt is like a lemon-lime soda. Okay, well, here's the problem with that. Oh, you guys don't have that? Maybe that's just me, but squirt's one of those words that's been ruined by porn.

If you say I'm going to drink some squirt. I did hear you say that last week. I did hear that. I'm not thinking of anything other than. Squirt is the name of a soda? Apparently. And I think it's squirt. I think it's Cytheria, and that's about it.

I think the soda squirt is like a poor people's Sprite, I think. That's the one soda, by the way. I mean, it's grapefruit. It's grapefruit. It's different. I thought it was lemon-lime. I think that Sprite is the hardest to replicate. I'll do Pepsi and soda. I prefer one, but I can drink them. I think that Sprite is the hardest to replicate. I'll do Pepsi and soda.

I prefer one, but I can drink them. I think that Sprite is the gold standard for Lemon Lime. Oh, yeah. Like 7-Up. Does 7-Up even exist anymore? Sierra Mist. Yeah. Kev, real quick on your boyfriend.

Yeah. I've never watched one of his videos or the tank vlogs or anything, but I got on to the app last night know, he was cooking a flat iron steak. And, you know, I get down in the kitchen. I'm Italian. I like to cook. And I said, okay, let's see what Frank can do. First of all, this guy cooked a whole meal from a computer chair.

I don't know how that, I've never seen that in my life. And I've never heard of the seasoning he was using. It was a scent or some sort of seasoning. And he seriously, Kevin, put half the bottle on one side of the steak, half the bottle on the other. And when you have a break, time, check it out. It's like six minutes long. I don't know how his heart's still beating, Kevin.

It is unbelievable the amount of sodium that guy put on this piece of meat. Frank the Tank is the eighth one in the world, bro. The way he cooks and eats, he is a special, special human. Is he a Pepsi guy or a Coke guy? Pepsi? My heart, my gut says Pepsi. Yeah. And he's just gonna drink soda, and somebody told him that, you know,

it's not good for you, and he said, then I die. My favorite line ever, then I die. Then I die. C-H-A-N. Let's hit a break. Final segment of the day, Chicks in the Office, up next. A little more CCK before we get out of here for the day. We'll be back on the other side. Your boy has officially run out of space in his apartment.

He went through his collection of sneakers, 99 pairs of sneakers. I don't need like, well, I don't really need 98 of them. As long as I had one pair to walk around, I could move all the other pairs. I'm out of space. I need some extra cash. And so I'm going to go use the LetGo app. LetGo is the fastest growing mobile marketplace to buy and sell locally. If you're looking to sell stuff like me, LetGo gives you an opportunity to turn your unused items into

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Oh. Kevin. Oh. Kevin. You're just ridiculously stupid. Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back. Welcome, welcome, welcome. Is this Kevin? Welcome back. Oh, yeah, man, how you doing?

You good? I know you like that. I know you like that. Is this Kevin? What's up, everybody? It is CCK on a Thursday. I think it's Thursday. Thursday. It's Thursday. Yeah. You sound so happy to be kid. It's Thursday. Yeah. You sound so happy to be here.

It's me. It's Jared Karabas. It's Jon Feidelberg. Kevin is out for the day. Jon's been talking on radio since 8 a.m., so I'm sure you're going to be a real peach. I've been awake since 6.45. You got up at 6.45? Why were you on radio that early? We were at Sirius doing an ATI press tour of sorts.

We did the Morning Men show. We did Jim and Sam with Jim Norton. And then we did Nikki Glaser's show from 10 to 12. She's cool. Love Nikki. She's awesome. That was probably a wild ride. She's funny.

Her KFC radio episode is still just shocking to me. Basically, every time we just talk about how she just masturbates without coming, which is an interesting thing to do, and doesn't have sex anymore. So she's a very interesting character. It was a lot of fun. She doesn't have sex anymore? No, she hasn't had sex in a couple months, I think. Oh.

Nikki Glaser is – Jared's like, well, hopefully I'm nearby. That's not retiring. That's just called life. Yeah, she's very funny. But you had a good time this morning. I did, yeah. I had a lot of fun.

It's a lot better to go on shows as the guest than it is as the host. Oh, yeah. Because you don't have to do any prep or anything. When we have guests come in, they have to listen to their shows and learn about them and be ready to ask them questions. When you're the guest on the show, you just show up and you're like, what up? You get to just talk. Let's talk about whatever the hell you want. I't care i mean we do do that uh barstool radio i think

across the board too but not for podcasts i know what you mean but here on this we don't have guests on this show it's like someone just pops in but no like i think yeah other than i think barstool breakfast is really the only guest show guests are like super bowl week but that's it yeah and the rest of it is just buffoonery uh So we're just going to have to jump right into this. It actually was an interesting thing when we were kind of like Kevin was giving me – no, Kevin was giving me – he listens to some of the shows and whatnot. I don't have a serious subscription. But I would like one.

It would be really nice if I could get hooked up with one. You just have to talk to Mikey Podcast. Yeah, that's why he sent me over a list of things. And I don't know. It just seemed hard. The problem is, is that we all use multiple logins. So if you're trying to listen to something at the same time, someone else has the login. It's a battle of who can outlast the last person.

It's like, well, you're logged into another device. Like, well, I'm going to keep listening on mine and it kicks them off. And then you just do it back and forth. That's not fun. No, that doesn't appeal to me. But the Kevin was giving me the kind of rundown of some of the shows and he's like all right now this one this guy's the straight man this guy's kind of the wild card and i was like i never really thought about that because like like how they what there used to be a formula for like radio shows and tv shows

and here everyone's the asshole on the show everybody like there's there's no straight man on barstool radio on any of the channels any of the shows i don't think no everyone's just the a bit of a wild card you remember it's a fun way to do it the lunch table meme came out and like they were trying to make like every lunch table like unappealing and they just put me you kevin i think that table seems pretty funny it was like every table you could look at and be like all right that's the person who like that's the that's like the one where it's like all right maybe if you wouldn't want to sit with that because of that person and it was like hang on i like everyone at this fucking table so we're just a bunch of assholes and i think they said

like but you can't wear headphones or something yeah what the fuck all right i guess we're the assholes uh and speaking of might as well just go right to this i know you and kevin probably talked about all the astro stuff yesterday right so everybody knows now the astros are being accused of cheating yep but this isn't this is their look at my left hand don't look at my right they're the ones who came out with this because they're doing something way worse than this you really think that yeah i think i think this is the bottle of andro i think yeah this is this is the greenies the like it doesn't stealing signs doesn't fucking help just Verlaine or Garrett Cole. There's a reason they can be turned into absolute freaks once they get to Houston.

So what do you think it is? I don't know. Probably just like Ivan Drago style training where you just get injected like Bane. Not Bane. Blanca. When you get to Houston, they just put you in. You've probably seen the Street Fighter movie, the classic Jean-Claude Van Damme, I'm sure. And they just put Blanca in this tube and just, like, show him a bunch of fucked up stuff when he comes out a monster.

I think that's what they do with their pitchers when they get there. Just put them in a tube and, like, clockwork orange them and just make them watch all kinds of shit and they come out freaks. That's a terrible thing. We've talked about this. Like, Justin Verlander was bad in Detroit. He was hurt. He had, like, a sports hernia. A hernia? Sidney Crosby has, like, 15. He had like a sports hernia. A hernia? Sidney Crosby has like 15 goals this year with a sports hernia.

Shut up. It's different. It's different to be a pitcher. I mean, I think playing a physical game where you get tackled. I was about to say, I don't know much about hernias, but I would assume that being a hockey player would be tougher to have a hernia with than a pitcher. I would think. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know the science of it. That would be tougher to have a hernia with than a pitcher. I would think. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know the science of it. That would be my guess.

I would not want to be hitting my sports hernia constantly. Yeah, no. So the athletic came out. Obviously, you think that it's just like a veiled thing for something worse. Well, because the big thing with it, too, is that they have people on record from the Astros organization, like Mike Fiers or Fiers, whatever his name is. Fiers. Fiers is

like, yeah, we were doing all this. Yeah. And Kenenthal gave him props being like it's really good nice of him to go on record or that doesn't happen yeah he's going on record because he's part of the plan where it's just like yeah we'll cover we'll admit to this because we're not admitting to the other thing i actually don't hate that what do you think about that that doesn't sound like a i definitely think that they're they there I mean there's something to the pitchers that go there and then they become superheroes but I mean they I believe it's it's just there's an explanation for I don't think that there's an explanation for the jump in velocity but like when Garrett Cole goes there and he just starts throwing fucking 100 miles an hour and like

the ninth inning of a complete game shutout but what they did do with Cole was they were like, all right. They looked at his four-pitch repertoire, and they were like, this pitch sucks, so we're not using this pitch anymore. They took one out. Your fastball is unbelievable, so we're going to up the percentage that you use your fastball, and we're going to have a strategy with the fastball. We're going to go fastballs up, and we're going to go curveballs down, and then bam, he's a Cy Young contender.

He should have won, but Verlander won whatever go at Garrett Cole finish a second like there's a reason I mean that's crazy you have to want into finishing Cy Young yeah it's never happened before it's never happened before right yeah uh so yeah I mean there's definitely an explanation for why Garrett Cole got better I don't know what the explanation is for for the uptick in velocity uh but PFT is trying to drag me into this. From what I hear, I only got a quick synopsis of it. It sounds like you're very much already in this. Yeah, because of PFT, I have nothing to do with this.

The title of the blog, before I even knew there was a blog coming, I saw Liz get off their radio show and come sit down and immediately start peppering Jared with questions about the whole scandal, which led me to believe they just talked about it on their show forever. Yeah, they talked about it for the whole hour. And they were like taking calls and like people like accusing Jared of knowing during the World Series what was going to happen in Game 2. Well. Because it was a public fucking story. But it wasn't. Yes, it was.

Well. So many people like, all right. That might have been true, but nobody in this office knew about it. Because you guys are not in the baseball world like I am. I'm looking at the story right now. This is from October 16th, 2018. That's a year ago. Over a year ago.

That's a year ago, yeah. And I quote, Two major league players said they have witnessed the Astros hitting a trash can in the dugout in recent years and believe it is a way to relay signals to the hitters. This story is a fucking year old. Yes, I knew about it because I read it last year and everyone's like, oh, you just admitted to knowing about this.

You're in on it. No, this was in. Jeff Passan is probably the number one baseball reporter in the fucking world. He reported this last October. Last October, PFT, you fuck. You sunglass wearing fuck. Get in here and suck Last October, PFT, you fuck. You sunglass-wearing fuck. Get in here and suck my dick, PFT. You fucking idiot.

He's trying to drag me through the mud. Why isn't Jeff Passan screaming from the mountaintops? Like, I already told you all this. So we had Jeff Passan on Section 10. And I was like, why didn't your story blow up the way that this one is? And he was like, well, because Mike Fiers was there, and he put a name to it on this one. And because of the detail about the cameras, the cameras is a new detail. Like there was no, there was no like reporting about they have cameras in center field and they're relaying it to the dugout. And this story right here, again,

let me read it again. Two major league players said that they have witnessed the Astros hitting a trash can in the dugout in recent years and believe it is a way to relay signals to hitters. The Los Angeles Dodgers also believe the Astros were stealing signs during the World Series last season, according to two sources. Again, this story came out in October 2018. This story is a year old. The trash can thing is a year old.

Why didn't anyone go do the footage? I don't know. That's of it? I don't know. That's so weird. I don't know. It's one of those things where it's like Ray Rice. Yeah, we knew what he did. You just saw it. PFT made it seem like, oh, guys from the Astros are telling you shit and you're using this information and blah, blah, blah.

It was a public story over a year ago. Let's back up for a second because people who are listening might not even know what PFT did. He wrote a blog about 40 minutes ago titled, jared krabis bad for baseball and of course he's catering to the lowest common denominator the thumbnail is you and alex bregman plays for the houston astros anybody to know that and the entire uh blog it's very long very long blog and it it breaks down basically jared's part in all of this and at at the very end, he said, you know, whether worst case is that Jared knew this was happening and just basically spread the lies

so he could profit financially and professionally, protecting his access to his best friends on the team and their former manager, Alex Cora, or that you were basically used as a little puppet, that's a quote, and a pawn. And it says, either way, we should be asking in the interest of growing this beautiful sport that we all love and care about so deeply is Jared Kravitz bad for baseball.

Sound off in the comments. Yeah. So he's, he's, he's caring for the lowest common denominator. It's not going well for Jared in the comments. Yeah. Because they're dumb too.

They're dumb people. And this story was public knowledge for over a year. I had nothing to do with it. I was not withholding information. It wasn't private knowledge. It was public. And yeah, some of these things, though, that not even just with the trash cans. So some of these things, I'm just going to give you an opportunity to set the record straight. Sure. One of the things that he says is that in 2017, you interviewed Bregman and that you said the Astros were light years ahead of the rest of the league when it

came to knowing what pitches were coming and that Alex claimed it was because of tipping pitches. But every team scouts for tipping pitches. So that was before the article came out. Some teams are better than another. The Astros were the number one team. So we had Bregman on starting nine in 2017. And he said on the podcast. Yeah, after they won the World Series.

I can't remember how long ago that was. Wow, okay. He's been on it again, right? Yeah, he's been on it again. Oh, I didn't know how long ago that was. Wow, okay. Yeah, so we had him on. He's been on it again, right? Yeah, he's been on it again. Oh, okay. He was on in spring training. So in 2017, he came on the podcast,

and he said that on any pitching staff, at least eight guys are tipping on every single team, like tipping their pitches. So that's why I was like, all right, like like the astro like i've never heard that before like that blew my mind like i feel like that was something that if starting not like starting i was in its infancy stages in in 2017 and i feel like if the podcast i feel like if we got that sound bite today i mean obviously now because of the the the scandal even if it was today pre-scandal like that's a big story.

What? Major League teams have these systems where they can figure out pitch tipping, and every single team has up to eight guys that are tipping their pitches? So many. That blew my mind. That blew my mind. And I've been citing that ever since, being like, yeah, did you know that Major League teams can pick out up to eight guys

on every single staff that are tipping their pitches so yeah i mean like it's when when you're talking about uh a team like the astros that was they were using technology to figure this shit out i mean you can still like because pft's point was that was them plant like how they were using me was that was them planting the seed which like could have been true it could have been true yeah come in pfc is here fuck yeah he's so pft is i'm actually agreeing with pft that potentially like acknowledging that you know up the whole point about eight guys on a staff could be tipping their pitches that could be like yeah well you know we just figure it out when really they were doing the trash can thing.

Yes. But you have to rescind your comments about me knowing about the trash can thing when this is a story from 2018 that reports the trash can thing. What is the exact verbiage of the story from 2018? Two major league players said that they have witnessed the Astros hitting a trash can in the dugout in recent years and believe it is a way to relay signals to hitters. The Los Angeles Dodgers also believe the Astros were stealing signs during the

World Series last season, according to two sources. So the trash can thing was out there. No one knew. Okay. This story, for whatever reason, did not blow up. This article did not blow up. But one other thing that you said on Big If True earlier today was that this was happening as recently as three weeks ago.

No, no, no, no. You said that on the radio. No, no, no, no, no. You said the trash can stuff. No, I didn't. I said I knew. Yes, you did. No, I didn't.

I said I knew about the trash can about three weeks. But, like, it was really a year ago. I was like, I knew I heard about the trash can stuff. No, I didn't. You said the trash can stuff was happening three weeks ago. No, I didn't. Check the tape. As recently as three weeks ago.

No, I did not. Yes, you did. I said I knew about it. That's where the entire thing blows up in your timeline. No, I didn't. Check the tape. As recently as three weeks ago. No, I did not. Yes, you did. I said I knew about it. That's where the entire thing blows up in your timeline. Wrong. Your entire blog is just like false. What is false about my blog? My blog says...

You're saying that this was privileged information when it was public knowledge. It was public knowledge as of a year ago. My just concept of thinking how far back I knew about it, I was like, I don't know. I definitely knew about this at least three weeks ago. It was a year ago my just concept of like thinking how bad how far back i knew about it i was like okay i was like i don't know i definitely knew about this at least like three weeks ago it was a year ago well you should have expanded on that thought i didn't say that it was happening three weeks that it was happening three weeks ago like you did i did not here's the other question jared don't pull the tape you knew this was happening yeah back in 2018 you'd heard about this yes in 2018 yep how in the world could anybody in the Houston Astros dugout, or excuse me, in the clubhouse,

be beating a fucking trash can with a bat right before each pitch unless there was a television there telling them what was happening? What would have to do with me? What does it work? I'm just saying if you knew about the trash can being beaten in the clubhouse back in 2018. How else was that happening? So while you were getting fed these lines about how great the Astros are at tipping pitches prior to Game 2. Everyone thought that they were sketchy.

I've never sat here and said, no, the Astros are doing it the right way. Everyone has thought that they've been some Area 51 of Major League Baseball. But you understand where you would think that because you're immersed in the baseball world. People who are not immersed in the baseball world would not know that. And you also kept quiet about it. Most people thought of it. What do you mean I kept quiet about it? No, I didn't.

Everyone said that they were sketchy. Jared, I love that this argument is happening, but the whole reason it went south after Game 2 of the World Series was because nobody in the office understood why you were saying that you should definitely bet on the Astros. So that means that it wasn't public knowledge. What wasn't public knowledge? was because nobody in the office understood why you were saying that you should definitely bet on the Astros. So that means that it wasn't public knowledge. What wasn't public knowledge? Like that it was known that the Astros were being sketchy because nobody in this office knew that but you. This is literally the number one baseball reporter in the world writing this story. No, no, no.

I understand that. People that are like diehard baseball fans knew about this. Did you know that? I'm with Jared in the sense that I knew the Astros were doing something. You knew that they were. I didn't even know the trash can thing. But I just knew the Astros were not that much better than everything. When he was telling people to bet on the Astros in game two,

because of that, which seemed normal to you? I just don't even remember that. It was bizarre. It wasn't bizarre. Because we were having a great conversation. Jared and I are good friends. The Rocket and I, we butt heads sometimes when he's selling his allegiances to teams. But Jared and I were having a conversation, as friends do before a big game.

So you and Jared, not you and the Rocket? Me and Jared and I were having a conversation. Who do you think is going to win? You know, like the most basic bitch bar conversation ever. Like, I'm a little bit nervous. It's the Nationals in the World Series. How crazy is that, Jared? He was like, don't bet on him.

And I was like, what? Just don't bet on him. The Astros are going to shell him tonight. Don't bet on him. Don't bet on Strasburg tonight. I was like, why? And you wouldn't expand me on that. You just said, don't bet on him.

He's going to get shelled. Right. And I was like, okay, that was weird. And then first inning, he gets lit up he gets lit up he gets toasted they know what he's they know he's thrown he changes something before the second inning settles down he's fine for the rest of the game after the game he said he alluded to the fact that they knew what pitches were coming he may have said tipping pitches he may have said uh they knew what i was going to throw i forget how strasburg

put it but something was up in that game he changed how he was pitching made all the difference in the world and that happened in other games too i put i said in my blog which apparently is 100 incorrect but i think if you look at the box score you will realize that 60 of the runs that the astros scored at home in this postseason came in the first inning before the Nationals switched things up and they realized what was happening. So, I mean, that's 40% of the Astros' runs, and they only scored 10 of them at home, but 40% of them came between the second and the ninth innings combined,

and then the other 60% came in the first inning of those home games. That's a crazy stat. So, I don't know. I think best case scenario for Jared is that he was being used as an unwitting agent of the Astros in terms of propaganda efforts. You're referring to the 2017 interview? Yes. The now famous 2017 interview.

Let me walk you through the thought process here. So the 2017 interview, which I said, like, definitely didn't get enough, like, at least that part of it didn't get enough pub as it should have. Like, that was pretty eye-opening to me when it's like, yeah, there's at least eight or nine guys on every staff that's tipping their pitches. So there's a stoolie who's a scout for an nl team not the nationals that reached out after the cardinal series and was like hey uh strasburg's tipping his pitches i was like okay so if a scout can notice that strasburg's tipping his pitches after the interview with bregman and they can

pick up on all those guys i was like the astros know that strasburg is tipping his pitches so that's why i went to the gamblers i was like hey you know bet against strasburg and then he didn't win but like he admitted to tipping his pitches so there was something to that and i was like all right well whatever so your source was a random scout yes why didn't you just say that in the moment because like i don't like i'm not gonna like give up like i'm still not gonna give up the name but it's like you know you know, you're not going to. Yeah. But you, it's not like a news story.

The word that you used during that was misinformed, which means obviously somebody told you. And then it seemed like at the time that it was somebody like Bregman. No. Well, that's what everybody thought. I didn't necessarily think it was. I made a joke about that. I think that Bregman like got on the horn with him. It was like, hey, we got him.

Why would you ever do that? I'm about to say because the stoolies believed it. I'm not saying you believed it or we believed it, but the stoolies did. That's not what I ever believed. And actually, I thank Jared for saying that to me because he did have some inside information that he shared to try to win me some money. So I appreciate the tip. That's why it's like you never give a hot tip. You can never.

Never. I don't know why I asked you that when you did it, why you would have thought that was a good idea. Just trying to do a solid. And your tip wasn't necessarily wrong. It's just that he made an adjustment once I heard that they were beating the shit out of Oscar the Grouch backstage at Minute Maid Park. He was like, hey, maybe I should start switching up the signs a little bit or whatever it is. So I think best case scenario for you in this now much heralded interview with Alex Bregman back in 2017 is when it was, which go back and listen to and listen to Jared just be fed propaganda

and go back for seconds from this guy. He told you that they have a team of scouts that is light years ahead of the rest of Major League Baseball in terms of knowing when pitchers are tipping pitches and you were like yeah the houston astros are really really good at picking up on all the small things about pitchers to the point where they have eight pitchers on every staff in all of baseball that they can identify what pitches they're throwing yeah and that's why i want to go back and listen to it like i would love to see like just revisit how it was worded and the tone of voice. I don't know.

I honestly don't know. I just remember being stunned when that bit of information was made public. My theory is that Bregman felt guilty. We weren't even friends back then. He didn't even know me. He thought the heat might be on a little bit because they had just won the World Series at the time, right? Yeah. It was right after they won the World Series.

And we did not even know each other. And I'm not a big baseball fan at all. I pay attention to the game. I follow it a little bit, especially when it gets close to the playoffs. But I'm not out there watching every game. I'm not studying the game. Even I picked up on the fact that they were sitting on fastballs and nailing the shit out of them, especially Bregman and Altuve,

as we talked about earlier. Yeah. But, um, after that, I think that Bregman felt like it was in the back of his mind. We've been cheating. We've been getting away with it.

I've got this interview with Jared. I'm going to talk about how great we are at identifying the pitches through legal means that are coming to us to kind of throw people off the scent. And I think that he probably told other people that, too. So I'm not singling you out as being bad for baseball. I'm saying you and your entire blog. Well, I didn't say is Jared Karabas the only person in the world who's bad for baseball?

It was is Jared Karabas, one of many who are bad for baseball, who ignored this scandal as a brood. You're like Bud Selig for the steroid era, but for the Houston Astros. But it wasn't private. It was in a public column. You could have dug a little deeper on their tipping pitches and all that stuff when they brought it up. I didn't like – I just figured – You're not blameless.

I like the Selig comp is nice because it was. Selig was like I just figured the sealer the sealer comp is nice because it was like oh they're exercising a lot more. But why why would I protect the Astros in 2018 when they were about to play in the ALCS against the Red Sox. You're protecting your

relationships. I don't know. No I don't give a fuck about like the Astros going under for cheating. I kind of agree with Casey on this. You're an access journalist now.

Yeah you're you're a national baseball writer. For Section 10, obviously. No, because the Astros don't do stuff with us. Only Bregman does. Verlander canceled an interview with us. Correa canceled an interview with us. Both of them? Yeah. I have no reason

to protect the Astros. Unless Alex Bregman is the one. They're the only unless Alex Bregman is the one they're the only team that has cancelled stuff with us unless Cora's involved

and he was involved in 2017 well he's not so and Jared knows this and he doesn't want to ruin that relationship I'm just

hypothetically and you also don't want to ruin a relationship with Bregman you don't of course not but I mean like but that's one guy

compared to protecting the whole team like I don't care to course not. But that's one guy compared to protecting the whole team. Like, I don't care to protect the Astros. The Astros have been, like, not the least accommodating, but, like, I don't want to say least friendly, but they're the only team that has had even one, never mind multiple players, agree to come on and then cancel. Well, what about what he just said? What did he say?

Cora. What about Cora? What about your best friend Cora? What about him? He didn't do shit. Yeah, it seems like What did he say? Cora. What about Cora? What about your best friend Cora? What about him? He didn't do shit. Yeah, it seems like you're being mighty defensive, Cora. No. That's weird.

No, he didn't do shit. I know he didn't do shit. Was he... What other teams did he manage for? Because I know he's the Red Sox manager now. No, that was the only team he's ever managed. What team was he on before that? Because I know he's...

He played for the Red Sox, too. Where else was he, though? He played for the Dodgers. I'm trying to think. Where else? What other stops he made along the way? Oh, yeah. Where else was he, though? He played for the Dodgers. I'm trying to think where else. What other stops he made along the way? Oh, yeah, that's right. He was with Houston, wasn't he? As a bench coach.

That's weird. What type of state is a bench coach? I would actually think that the bench coach is probably the guy that's in the clubhouse beating the fuck out of the trash can. I don't think so. What else is a bench coach? Do you have – He's coaching the bench. I think we've got – yeah, he's coaching it pretty hard.

He's coaching that trash can pretty hard too. I don't think so. I think this is an avenue that we could be willing to explore. I mean, I think Cora was definitely involved, and I'm glad he was. I want my coach to be fucking getting down in the nitty-gritty. I want my coach to – I'm a New England Patriots fan. I want my coach to find in any fucking possible angle he could. Cora, if Cora was there when this was going on, he better have been involved in this.

Cora left the Astros the second he found out that they were cheating. That would actually be worse if he was on the Astros and they kept him from this big thing. That actually would be. That would be way shittier. I would feel bad if I were him. I would feel like I wasn't one of the guys. If they were cheating and they just didn't tell him that. He was kept in the dark on his own team.

I'm not like one of those. You don't want that. The college programs claim, oh, our coach doesn't cheat. Our coach doesn't buy players. Fuck that. Buy players. Buy the best players. Buy the signs.

Steal the signs. I don't care. Win the fucking game. I think that that's at least a logically and ethically consistent argument that you're making. Unlike what Jared's been doing. I mean, everything that I have said in this argument has been backed up with facts. And it's not true at all. Yes, it is.

Yes, I gave it to you in print. How do you know that Alex Cora wasn't involved? Because he wouldn't do something like that. So that's not – I mean, that's your inclination to say that. That's not facts. No one has a photograph of him being involved. No one has video. No one has, photograph of him being involved. No one has video. No one has a source implicating him directly.

This is all just allegations. And you know who wrote the story? Evan Drellick, who's a bitch. I called him for Section 10, and he said, I'm at breakfast. You know what time it was? 1140. Sounds sketchy to me. So you're going to take a story from Evan Drellick and just use that as hardcore fact?

Wait, Drellick wrote one that Cora was involved? Yeah. Because he was. No, he wasn't. For those who don't know who Evan Drellick is, send Be Right Over the Red Sox. He's the bench coach for the team that was stealing signs. So if I wrote a story that says John Feidelberg has Nazi propaganda

in his basement, and I just wrote it on the internet, that means it's true? Because that's all Evan Drellick did. He didn't see it happen because guess where Evandrelic was in 2017? He was sitting next to me in Burlington doing the fucking baseball show.

If I was like living... How does Evandrelic know what was happening in Houston in 2017 when he was sitting next to me in Burlington? You could write that for me that I had

Nazi propaganda in my basement if I lived with Nazis because then it would make a lot of fucking sense that I had Nazi propaganda I don't know who you live with. The...

Alice Coro worked with Steinsteilers so he probably... Alright, so it's just Nazis because then it would make a lot of fucking sense that I had not. I don't know where you live with the, the, uh, Alice Cora worked with Steinsteiner. So that's just, that's just all right. So it's just guilty by association. Yeah. Yeah. That's wrong.

That's not what America is all about. That's not what this country was built on. That's incorrect. I'm, I'm, I'm honest in the sense that I will be disappointed if Cora was not involved. Cora better have been involved. No,

it's all about integrity and he has all of it. That's why he left. They're like, oh, you guys are cheating? I'm leaving. Didn't Evan Jellick work for the Astros in the beginning of 2017? Oh, he has an axe to grind against the Astros, Casey. I'm just reading an article. Now, this isn't... I'm seeing Ken Rosenthal. Do you like Ken? He's pretty well

respected, right? Yeah. Across the league? He's... Oh, where does he work for? The Athletic. He's linking to Evandrelic's story. Pause. No. It's not his story. It says Ken Rosenthal right here. On Twitter? No, it says Ken Rosenthal at the byline. Yeah, he's citing

Evandrelic. It was Evandrelic's story. Yes, it was. Yes, it was. It was Evandrelic's story. Jared, will you let me finish? The story is co-bylined first by Ken Rosenthal and Evandrelic's story. Jared, will you let me finish? The story is co-bylined first by Ken Rosenthal and Evandrelic. Right. You have no knowledge about what time Ken Rosenthal eats breakfast. I don't know whether or not he's truthful or not.

I think that he's a pretty well-respected man. The implicating Alex Cora was the work of Evandrelic, who I called this morning to ask him questions about his story, and he hung up on me. He hung up. Should I text him and see if he'll call into the show? Sure. Maybe you should call Ken Rosenthal. I will. I have his number, and he hung up on me. He hung up. Should I text him and see if he'll call into the show? Sure. Maybe you should call Ken Rosenthal. I will. I have his number, too.

I'll call him. You should call him because he says, Major League Baseball's investigation into the Astros and sign stealing is virtually certain to include interviews with three current managers, A.J. Hinch, Alex Cora, and Carlos Beltran. Yeah, he's citing Evandrelic. No, this is Ken Rosenthal's article that he wrote alongside. citing Evandrelic. No, this is Ken Rosenfeld's article that he wrote alongside. But Evandrelic's name is also on the...

Yes, they co-authored it. Right. So he's just acknowledging the information that Evandrelic fabricated. We don't know who came with this information. It's Evandrelic. Well, I just texted Evan, so we'll see. No, he's probably still eating breakfast. It's fucking 1.30 in the afternoon.

I mean, he'll tell me. Maybe he's eating lunch now. No, he can't come out. He's not going to lie to me. He's just probably going to tell me no, but we can try, and you guys can hash this out. All I'm saying is the best case scenario for Jared is he was used as a tool of the Houston Astros in their disinformation campaign in order

to get ahead of a story that would eventually break to start spreading news that they were just light years ahead of the rest of Major League Baseball when it comes to tipping pitches. And that's fine that you were a part of that operation because maybe you didn't know. Maybe you were. Maybe you were. So wouldn't Dallas also be implicated in this? He might be, but I don't think that Dallas is going to go out of his way to cover up

for his guy. I'm not covering up for anybody. Who am I covering up for? Sounds like you're coming pretty hard at this Ellen Drellick fella. Ellen Drellick. Who dared to mention Cora's name in his report that he put out with Ken Rosenfeld. Yeah. Well, that's just because I know that he didn't do anything.

833-857-8665. We're going to take a break. We'll take all your calls on this. But PFT, before you go, is Jared bad for baseball? That's the question that we're asking. I didn't say that he was. I asked the question in the title of the article. I asked people to sound off in the comments section below.

It's not going well for Jared. Do you want me to tell you what people are saying? No. Okay, I won't say it. But you can read the comments section. No, I'm good. And they're sounding off. And I think we just need to ask the question until we get the answers.

When, yeah. Well, if Evan Drellick does call in. He's not going to call in. I mean, we're going to see. But we'll get back to this on the other side. 833-857-8665. It's a hostile CCK here on a Thursday. We'll be right back.

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because he has asked the question to the internet, is Jared Karabas bad for baseball? PFT is just in here for the first segment because he has asked the question to the internet, is Jared Kravitz bad for baseball? PFT's bad for baseball. Well, I don't think he would care if he was bad for baseball. I know I'm not bad for baseball. That was like a real self-reflective moment. You were looking down. You looked at it like, I just, I know.

Yeah, that came from a deep place. 833-857. That was Jared, not the rocket. Yeah, the rocket exited the studio for about 10 seconds. 833-857- That was Jared, not the rocket. Yeah, the rocket exited the studio for about 10 seconds. 833-857-8665. The call lines are banged out, so we'll get to all of those. But if you are just catching up, fights, you had a great analogy during the break. So we were discussing if Alex Cora, who was with the Astros when this was allegedly happening,

if he was involved or not. Jared says absolutely not. He's a man of character. He's a man of morals. He wouldn't be involved. And you're saying that you, as a Red Sox fan, would want him to be involved. Of course I want him.

That's not even like a radio. That's not even like whatever my version of the Rocket would be. That's just, I'm dead serious. If the Astros were doing this, and they were, and Alex Cora was there, and he was, then he better have been a part of this. Because otherwise, he's like the kid in high school who you didn't tell about parties because they'd snitch on you. And I don't need that guy leading my baseball team.

If they were having pregame meetings to say, look, all right, guys, we're banging the drum. If Alex asks what it is, say we're starting a band or something like that. Don't tell him about the trash can thing. That's not a guy I want leading my team. He better know know he better help cover it up i want all of it see i tend to decide with john here and like you use the college football analogy like i hate whenever people are like oh well they might be paying players but there's no way insert head coach knows it's like no i want if they are going to cheat which everybody is cheating i would want the head coach to be involved in it i would want my guy to be involved in it because that means if you're not involved, that means they think you A, are either a snitch or B, are too stupid to understand what you're doing.

And that's always the thing. It's a common line in movies. I think what could have happened – Either you're too new about it or you're too dumb. And it better not be you're too dumb. What could have happened is they asked Alex Cora, hey, we got this scheme going on. Do you want to get involved and he said no and he walked out of the room and maybe he turned a blind eye to it i don't know

but i know that he was not involved and uh he again he left the organization immediately at following that season that's undeniable and they had just won a world series i mean like why wouldn't you want to stay with the world series champs oh because you don't stand for cheating and you want to win a World Series the right way. And that's exactly what he did the second that he left. That's what happened. Have you talked to him? No.

Okay, well, I'll just let you ponder that for a second. We're just going to go ahead and take some calls here. Chad, it looks like I just asked you if you kissed the girl. And you're like, no. You got more squirrely about that than if people ask you if you got laid last night. Blushy. I'm just looking at my Twitter mentions.

That's all. I just love, the best part about this is that I just, we have cameras that can show the people your reaction to that. Troy in Atlanta, what do you got on this? Oh, well,

I started when it was a caribous and a PFT arguing I was on Karabas' side I know your name Karabas I was on your side but now I'm on Fidelberg's side He swayed me

If you're not cheating you're not trying No he's saying he wants Alex I get what he's saying But he's also not implicating him He's saying I hope Alex Cora to be involved. I get what he's saying, but he's also not implicating him. He's saying, I hope that... No, he said he was involved with it. Oh, yeah, if he was there, he was involved. And he should have been.

And he should have been. I mean, the bench coach knows about what's going on on the bench. Does he? Yeah. If not, he's a bad coach. I mean, what about Aaron Boone? I mean, Aaron Boone, you have Brett Gardner smashing the dugout with the bat. I mean, he didn't do anything to stop that.

What if Alex Cora's like, wow, my team has been pissed off all season. They just keep fucking whacking the trash can. I'd have a meeting. I'd be like, guys, what the hell is going on? Why are you just beating this trash can every single day? I would maybe allow it to happen for a game. Brett Gardner did it all season. You got to tell maybe allow it to happen for a game. And then I'd be like, all right. I mean,

Brett Garner did it all season. You gotta tell me. He just, he did that shit in anger, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I can only picture like the one time,

but it was like. Has anyone ever hit a trash can happily besides like Doug Funney's music video? Yeah, apparently the Astros were doing it to tip pitches. Yeah, they were pretty thrilled.

Like, hey, jump! Yeah, I think it's a little bit different. They were beating that shit like a gun with a fucking ear to ear. Yeah, they were stealing signs. I think the number one thing that different. They were beating that shit like a gun with a fucking ear to ear.

Yeah, they were stealing signs. I think the number one thing that I don't want to happen is like, I'm not defending the Astros. They 100% cheated. Alex Kord did not. Okay. Well, Daniel in Texas, what do you got on it? Daniel?

Hello. Hi. Yes, this is Daniel. Hi. I agree with Spites, by the way, about the whole slide of hand technique. Daniel? Hello. Hi. Yes, this is Daniel. Hi. I agree with Spites, by the way, about the whole slide of hand technique. I'm a huge Astros fan. But I didn't know if y'all were listening to the World Series when they talked about James.

Sorry, let me take you off speaker. Talking about his velocity increase and they said and they said it was uh sleeping with a uh c-pat machine that improved it i believe it oh yeah that was with uh that's what happened with uh napoli too yeah now he got like his face removed yeah nap had like a c-pat machine and like his jaw realigned or something like that. They like peeled his fucking fist back. And all of a sudden he's throwing 98-99. Nap was hitting 30 home runs once it happened. I think maybe CPAP machines are like Adderall in the NFL where everyone gets bombed for something.

They're like, oh, no, no, I was just taking Adderall. And everyone in the whole world is like, okay, I know it was HGH, but whatever, we'll let you think that. Exactly. So anyway, love the show. Y'all are doing great. Thank you. Thanks for the call, Daniel.

Jake in New Jersey. What's up, Jake? Are you having an NPR voice right now? I don't know. I can't read. Jake from New Jersey. I'm going to be honest. My allergies are so bad with my eyes, I feel like I can't open them without them just watering

everywhere, and I couldn't read. Hey, Jake. What do you got? Hey, Jake. what you got? Nice. So I got a buddy who's got a younger brother in the Astros minor league system. He was drafted in 2017 in the 11th round. Coming out of college, I believe he was 90 to, like, 93.

So they kind of messed with his mechanics a little bit, and he's plowed through the minor leagues. He's throwing, like, 95 to 97 right now. So I think if you take a, like, bonafide stud like Verlander, they're going to have an uptick in velocity, no problem. Just hate to see Tommy and Huff create a non-story. Like, I mean, they didn't take a bona fide stud in Verlander. They took a guy who was a stud.

They took a guy, I mean, Verlander was what? Mid-30s when he went there? He's 36 now. 36 now, so 33 when he went there? I mean, that's towards the end of your career. The Red Sox aren't signing anyone who's 33 years old. That's why they fired LaVangie, though, because he was clearly doing nothing with their pitching staff.

I mean, they were, like, one of the best pitching staffs in the league the year before. That was also weird. They, like, demoted him. There needed to be, like, a fall guy. They're not going to fire Cora. Like, Dombrowski's out. Like, the pitching sucked.

It's like, hey, Dana, I know that you, like, had one of the best pitching staffs in baseball a year ago, but all these pitchers got hurt, so that's your fault. You're fired. Is he fired? No, they demoted him to a scout. Yeah, it's weird. Very weird.

You've known for a while they're better analytically, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The guy that they just brought in is, like, a big-time analytic guy analytic guy like worked with brian banister who's uh the king of the but we've known for a while i think he's about the astros and like yes we know the astros are better analytically but like eventually other teams would catch up and it's just like for like five years it's almost one of those things like you explain it away first where you're like uh something's heck of it they just must be way better analytically and And then eventually, like, other teams decide to adopt analytics and there's still the same things not happening to those teams

before you're like, okay, let's go a level deeper. What is it besides analytics? You just can't take a non-story, though, and throw Garrett Cole and Verlander. Those are the two top guys in the league. Yeah, I know. That's the point. It's also not a non-story.

I mean, it's the furthest's also not a non-story it is i mean it's the furthest thing away from a non-story jay hap if you took jay happen he's throwing a hundred then you have a story but it's not a non-story when you've been out of graffiti like i'm again i i have a lot of uh reference points here i'm an england patriots fan the fucking uh you know some some weather happens and some air comes out of a football, and then people are scouring the blueprints of Gillette Stadium to say that Bill Belichick built billboards to study so he can know when to challenge a play and whatnot, even though that fucking billboard is 25 seconds behind in real time.

But you look at everything once you get caught doing one thing. So it's not a non-story. It's not a non-story at all. You get caught doing something, you look at every other thing It's the biggest story in baseball right now I guess but when you Talk to that kid At least when I talk to his brother

They tweak mechanics They shorten a stride Every baseball team tweaks mechanics Like we all talk to baseball players Every team in baseball tweaks mechanics That's not fucking rocket science. I mean, it is when you're advanced. That's what it is.

I mean, you are doing an awful job explaining this. They're advanced. They have analytics. Use a different letter, for God's sakes. I'm not sure what else you want from me. I'm just trying to get a better explanation. There is none. There is no better explanation. There is none. There is no better explanation.

They've been advanced now. So Jake, you think the Houston Astros are more advanced and do better things with pitching in the minor league system than any other baseball team in the country and nobody else can figure out what the Astros have? Well, I just think it's throughout their system. It's not just

in the minor leagues. Your friend's brother is in the minor leagues right now but I mean your friend's brother is in the minor leagues right now but I mean you understand that when it's major league baseball that like they're going to have people across the league that can have advanced analytics it's not just the Houston Astros not every team

is on that level well right that's why well that's why people are asking the questions because they're being accused of cheating. Other managers, other scouts, other front office people have now switched to other teams in the league. They've gotten other jobs. So

it should have realistically expanded. Whatever their top secret, whatever their advanced analytic is, people should know the secret. Alex Cora should know the secret. From what I understand is there's not always continuity between the major league system and the minor league system. Just because they're doing something at the major league level.

Garrett Cole and Justin Verlander never went to the minor league system. They were on the Houston Astros from day one. Right. No, I understand that. But what I mean by that is just because the Astros have it all together doesn't mean it leaks to other teams. Why would they give that other stuff information away? When someone involved in that organization moves teams,

that's how changing jobs works. You take what you learned at that job and you bring it to other jobs. It's like also the coaching tree. It's like what you think when they leave Houston, they just all of a sudden get their brains zapped and don't know how to do shit anymore? But we're talking about the last three years.

We're not talking about... Alex Cora is now with the Boston Red Sox. Your point? Right. What is your point? My point is that he was there whenever this was apparently happening

and he's now with the Boston Red Sox. So does he just not know what's going on? Does he not know advanced analytics? Well, I think every player is different. Either you have that in the tank or you don't.

I mean, this guy is... This call stinks. PFT has rejoined us. That guy was... I couldn't follow anything there. He just kept saying advanced analytics. And he also just kept saying

my buddy plays in the minor league system. I don't care about you. The college kid who got three miles an hour on his basketball. I'm not talking about him. I'm talking about Garrett Cole

and Justin Verland. I would go out on a limb and say that everybody in this room could talk to people that would say the exact same thing on different teams. Right. I don't mean to take over the show, but there has been a material change in some of the information that's been presenting to me, and I would like to address it. You can take over the show if you'd like.

So before the World Series, before Game 1 happened or Game 2 or whenever it was that Jared got this mysterious call from a scout on another National League baseball team saying, we've got Strauss' pitches. Let's throw that out the window right now because I have information that Jared Karabas was FaceTiming with Alex Bregman prior to the World Series, saying they had everyone's pitches, especially Strasburg. And that individual has a screenshot of Alex Bregman laughing on FaceTime with Jared the Houston Rocket Karabas.

So we talk, so that means that... He told you that they had Strauss's pictures. No. No, incorrect. This is, okay. Incorrect. You're calling my source a liar? Yes. Okay, well, I'll have to dig a little bit deeper then.

I can produce a screenshot. Okay. I think that that's pretty damning information, and I'd also like to say out loud, I'm going to be whistleblowing, and I'm going to be reporting Jerry Karabas to Major League Baseball to include as part of their investigation. I want them to come interview you.

I want you to be like one of the 70 pages in whatever report they put out, the interview with national baseball writer Jared Karabas. You're involved in this thing now, buddy. No, I'm not. You are balls deep in this scandal, and you're going to be in that fucking Major League Baseball report. That would actually be pretty sick. That would be awesome, Jared.

That would be great for the street cred, but you're barking up the wrong tree. Sorry. Are you going to name your sources? Not yet? Not going to name it yet. Okay. But somebody who has assured me that Jared was having these conversations with Mr. Bregman, and they were laughing about it.

They were thumbing their nose at the rule book together. Did you know that, like, stealing or, like, identifying pitch tipping is not illegal? You know that, right? I do know that, yeah. Okay. All right. So there's no infraction. Best case scenario, putting your head in the sand and ignoring the facts that were plain as day between the garbage can beatdowns that you were aware of as far back as 2018, your words, not mine, and the fact that Bregman told you that they were going to have his pitches. Incorrect.

Okay. Okay. We'll find out. And you know what's more important than me finding out? It's Major League Baseball finding out. Call me up. You're goingball finding out. Call me up. You're going to be investigated, Jimmy. Call me up.

You're great. And I like it on the record, PFT, that if you do get any more information, you can come in and share it. I will. And the first call I'm going to make, Major League Baseball. Should I do that on the radio? Yeah. Don't shoot while I dig up their number. By the way, I did get a text back from Evan Drellick who said he said he cannot.

Yeah, of course he can't. Yeah, he said that he he'd love to, but he cannot right now at this moment. So, yeah, he's running from the truth, which is what he did this morning. Maybe he's not allowed to come on the radio. How could you not be allowed to come on the radio to promote your own story? Well, I don't know. Everybody has different things. Maybe the athletic won't let him come on the promote your own story? Well, I don't know. Everybody has different things. Maybe the Athletic won't let him come on the radio.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. We're going to take more calls, though. Great. Adam in Houston wants to argue for the Astros. Adam, please do a better job than the last guy did. Okay, that dude had no clue what he was talking about.

I don't know why it's a surprise that Verlander pitched well for us because he got second place in the Cy Young in, what, 16? And should have won at the most first place votes. Cole's the number one overall pick. He's a stud. No surprise that they're good. Thoughts, anyone? I didn't hear.

It should be no surprise that they're good. I mean, Verlander was on the tail end of his career. His career, he was. He got the most first place votes for Cy Young in 16. But he had like two or three bad years before that. Maybe it was the sports hernia that Jared was talking about. He had a sports hernia for like a year. So do you or do you not think anything's going on with the pitchers?

With the pitchers, for sure. I mean, like their velocity. Like I understand that they're implementing strategies to, like, make them more effective. But that doesn't explain the object and velocity. I mean, you're humping over 100 in the ninth. I mean, come on. Yeah. No, I know.

There's definitely something to that. But they'll be, oh, spin rate. Okay. Yeah. How is nobody talking about Mike Byers being a complete bitch for ratting out his team when he had a glove covered in pine tar when he threw the no-hitter for us because he's because he's not he's not a bitch he's he's uh a secret agent he the the houston astros knew like signed off on this fires was like i'm gonna go and and we'll

cop to this and he says like that's a great idea because now we won't have to cop to anything else because people will think it was just this. It's like thin veiling over something much bigger. Yeah. PFT. It's a classic cover-up. You're back in the studio. Yeah, I'm about to get the commissioner on the line. I've got Rob Manfred's office number.

Just give him a call. God, I hope this was working. His assistant's going to answer and be like, what the fuck is going on? Major Lee's Spaceball. Have I addressed your call? Yeah, I'd like to speak with the commissioner or anyone that's involved in the Astros investigation. I actually have some material that might be relevant to the investigation they're putting together. One moment, please.

Thank you. We should get going. Hi, yeah, I'm looking to speak to the commissioner or anyone who might be conducting the investigation on the astros i have some material information that i'd like to share if possible that might be useful okay uh well currently uh i'm going to show up for the owners meeting uh so you would either have to call back next week or you can take a message or you can send an email. Can you take a message down? And is it okay if I stay anonymous? Sure.

Okay. So I have information that there's a national baseball writer. His name is Jared Karabas, C-A-R-R-A-B-I-S. Wait, what's the last name? Karabas, C-A-R-R-A-B-I-S. And he has information that is directly pertinent based on conversations he's had on and off the record with Houston Astros players and potentially bench coaches. And it's information regarding sign stealing that was happening perhaps as recently as this year's World Series. I'm told that there were numerous conversations, perhaps on FaceTime or otherwise, that he would be able to possibly shed some light in the material that they're investigating right now.

Okay. And, yeah, I mean, I can give an address if you'd like, or I don't know what other information I can provide. I think I can pull up his email address. Hang on. Let's see. How's your day going, by the way? Nice. It's going pretty well, by the way? Nice.

It's going pretty well. His email address is carabas, and it's at Barstool Sports. He's an employee of Barstool Sports. So it's carabas at barstoolsports.com. Okay, thank you. And maybe I'll call back to follow up on this when the commissioner is back in and see if I can speak with him

directly. Thank you. Bye. Protect the game. Okay. You're in this, buddy. Oh my god. You are so deep in this, buddy. Oh, my God. You are so deep in this. Like, you're fucked.

You're in the thick of it now. I mean, she was like, yeah, definitely. Let's take it. She didn't even think that was silly for a second. Nope. She was like, yeah, all right, good. Rob's going to be really happy when he gets home. I got some big stuff.

I don't think it's silly. I think it's legit. Well, on that note, we have to take a break. Okay. We'll be back in hour two. Here's CCK 833-857-8665. I'm sure PFT will be joining us. If you have any thoughts on the Astros scandal

or the fact that PFT just ratted Jared Kravitz out to the MLB commissioner's office, we'd love to take your calls. We'll be right back. Jared Gate. She knows that I'm a moron. And I ain't got no plan. But that's okay. She don't care anyway.

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I got to dip out in a little bit. I wasn't even going to do radio at all, but I wanted to get some thoughts off on the number one story in the world right now. We'll keep talking about the Astros, right? More baseball talk? We'll talk Miles Garrett. I think we did enough of that yesterday.

I heard there was some fireworks. No, they were good. I'm all over the map on this miles gara thing because the takes are flying they're flying i mean this was one of those days one of those instances incidents where like twitter is good bad and ugly all all at once it's like i love it i hate it logical yeah there's some interesting stuff there's some interesting stuff. There's some stupid stuff. But there's nothing quite like those moments. And it's crazy that it happened so late in the game, so late at night.

There was a chance that they were a few seconds away from just not even happening at all because the game would have been fucking over. And instead, it's a play that will live in infamy and be talked about forever. So it just came out. It's suspended indefinitely, guaranteed the rest of the season and the postseason. Which is like, honestly, if this happened like week two,

I think there's a different story. Because are you going to suspend someone for like 15 games? I think you have to with that. But the fact that... For attempted murder. I think it was an easy decision given that there was only

a handful of games left. Because it's like, alright, well why don't we just say it's the rest of the season and then you get almost credit for being swift and decisive when in reality I feel like if it was much earlier in the season they would have had a more difficult

decision on their hands. I don't know. I understand what you're saying, but I don't... Was it week 11? So yeah, we'll be missing six games. And then the playoffs. Well, they're not making the playoffs. I don't think they're making the playoffs. The phone just lit up we already got one call i want

to stand up for garrett so like we'll get to those fucking lunatics in a second we got to get our thoughts in first but that's i mean listen the rational take here is like that was one of the fucking craziest plays you'll ever see it's not football play. It's not within the scope of play. It happened during a game. But it becomes so much worse when you use something like that, which is basically a weapon. You hit someone in the head. And you should be suspended indefinitely. But we're also not going to act like he, like, you know, tried to shoot someone in the face with a gun. That would be the rational take.

I feel like that's kind of what normal people are thinking. But there are people who are, A going like insane over this like he actually like murdered a person and then there are b people on the other side of it who are either browns fans or i guess you said a and m fans or or some people are just making this like political where it's like okay lib okay pussy it's like this is not like a conservative or liberal thing it's just like someone got smashed in the fucking head with a blunt object so this has nothing to do with like your politics but there are the there are those are the two things on the either end of the spectrum but i feel like more normal people are all going to be on the same page no yeah i mean it's pretty down the middle of understanding like you can't do that you just cannot do that it is unacceptable to do

that so that we all agree on now where do you fall on the idea that like this could be tried like criminally as like a crime i mean probably not because it's like like fighting in hockey is you're assaulting someone you're punching someone in the face with a malicious to harm them and scramble their brains so i don't know i guess like when you're when you're in sports it's kind of off the table but yeah i mean if there were some serious damage that like the team of the league wasn't going to cover and it's like if if who is the quarterback mason rudolph so if that dude stinks by the way he's so fucking big ben's backup he's like a fucker that's the other thing too is like you know someone a lot of meme accounts are tweeting the same thing.

Like, this happened to Tom Brady. Someone's going to jail. And that's probably true. But it is what it is. These are the circumstances. These are the people. My favorite take of the whole thing is like, well, I can't go to work and smash someone in the head.

If I did that, I'd go to jail for 20 years. Guess what? Like always, your job at the accounting firm is not the same as going to like a literal football a literal like modern day coliseum where there is organized violence for entertainment you know it's like oh i can't watch this guy smash his head let's get back to the football game where that's all people do that's just like the worst argument ever it's like they are actually tackling the shit out of each other they're hitting each other.

He just took it to another level that you cannot pass but has nothing to do with your accounting firm, Karen. Right. And I mean,

you can say that like, yeah, well, you're tackling and hitting and that's within the game trying to win and that's all true but those guys are also like in the heat of the moment

they're trying to hurt you. You know, like old school football players would tell you like, yeah, we're trying to hit them in the head. We're trying to hit him in his injured knee. We're trying to hurt you you know like old school football players would tell you like yeah we're trying to hit them in the head we're trying to hit him in his injured knee we're trying to hurt the other team because we want to win so this is not the first time there's been a dirty play in football and anybody who's trying to say that is just ridiculous it's just it's just the first time that someone has done specifically this and also like

made contact with it in the head it was kind of like the perfect storm of we've seen helmets be ripped off we've seen punches thrown we've seen helmets be ripped off. We've seen punches thrown. We've seen a lot of crazy shit, but never like this directly. And with like, you know, he made contact. You know, if he swings and misses, it's a whole other. And that's, I went crazy this morning. I was losing my fucking mind on the commute because people started comparing it to Todd Bertuzzi and Marty McSorley in the NHL. Bertuzzi sucker punched the guy from behind, drove his head and face into the ice,

broke his neck, and ended his career. Marty McSorley smashed a guy with his stick. He fucking convulsed and went into a seizure on the ice. Mason Rudolph stood up and complained to the refs. He was completely fine and that matters it does matter it like it's like it doesn't excuse it at all but it matters for the punishment it absolutely matters that there are basically no damages it's almost as if he swung and missed in the sense that like if if he shattered his face and he was bleeding or he went unconscious

or something like that he would probably be banned for life or he or if he if he ended his career somehow there probably really would be criminal charges the same way there was people were saying well bertuzzi and rick sorely both got like probation in a court of law so this should too again one guy broke his neck and ended his career the other guy had a seizure the third guy he got up and was totally fine. If you want to take it to the level where we're talking about legal procedures and legal ramifications, two things matter, the intent and the damages. And in this case, there was a shit ton of intent and no damages. So you can't say he should get the – Yeah, right.

Not no damages, but in comparison to the NHL ones that people were bringing up, basically no damages. So all of a sudden, everybody is putting everything into intent and not results. Like, what if he swung and missed? What would you be saying? Well, the intent was still there. Yeah, I mean, it's the visual of a— But there was some damages, so we're talking about suspension. But there wasn't enough damage to talk about fucking jail time.

It's just such a crazy visual, especially because Miles Garrett is a massive human being. It's not like he's just like some little guy rudolph you crazy like the fact that he was just like overhand swinging a football helmet because we always talk about when football players get in fights it's like why are you punching each other in the helmet it's not gonna hurt he physically used the helmet as a weapon i don't know even if he didn't make contact at all he still was gonna have to get suspended right but i'm saying like if he missed it would have been like whoa that was crazy you know suspended like a couple games for like intent to hurt or some shit he made contact so it's like this is a use of a weapon and you get suspended but if he's not knocked out if he's not bleeding if he's not you know visibly because all that shit matters it's like if you're gonna look

at the ramifications you need to look at like the results of the act, and there really just kind of was none. How differently would you feel if the suspension was six games, which ends up being the rest of the season, versus we are suspending for the rest of the season? That's why I'm saying it was great for them. Yeah. They get to look like we dropped the hammer on this guy. But in reality... Because you're talking about a tape showing up of assaulting a woman two games.

Deflating footballs four games. Smoking weed. Sometimes out for the season. Attempted murder the rest of the season and the playoffs. And it's a team that you only had six games left and a team that's not going to make the playoffs. So that's where I think they finally handled something right, I is. They finally handled something right. I think they had to. I mean, no, because they said that before about the NFL and they don't have to and they don't do that.

But in this case, they think they finally learned their lesson. And the fact that it was done on the field, that's why I'm saying like, yeah, there's a big difference. There's not the like subjective like, oh, well, you know, this is like off the field. He's not at work. We're like this was on primetime television. The entire sports world was watching. And you just cannot do that.

I feel like I don't know how people are defending. If it was like the middle of the second quarter, too, I feel like it would be even crazier because I do feel like viewership was probably down by that point. I mean, at this point on the Internet, everybody sees things anyway. But had it been, you know, like the entire bar just erupted when that happened. It was crazy. been you know like yeah the entire bar just erupted when that happened it was i mean crazy i mean listen the fucking like sick you know selfish viewer in me was like this is awesome and this is some true gladiatorship and again that's the thing if mason rudolph was like on the fucking ground seizing and was like he'll never play again it would be you know a much more tragic

story and we probably would be talking about sending this guy to a court case. But that didn't happen, so I think a football penalty, a football punishment is probably more in line with a legal punishment. And the other thing, I guess we'll take a call here in a minute with stand-up for Garrett. I don't know why both teams were fined equally. Well, so a lot of people being like, I had one guy today say, are we going to ignore the fact that Mason Rudolph attacked him first? Attacked? Attacked?

Attacked? Strong? Mason Rudolph definitely kind of like – He tried to rip his helmet off. He tried to rip his helmet off, which is like you're not supposed to do that. That was a football scuffle. He has every right to respond in kind and especially if you're a little bit – a lot bigger. Fucking rag doll this guy and throw him on the ground.

But – You can't swing a helmet. You can't do it. Yeah. Like everything else – Someone's fucking head. Everything else was dirty everybody was wrong and then miles garrett went like way over the top it's like if you know

i punch you in the face and you pull out a gun and shot me it's like well i instigated it but god damn you can't do that right so don't talk to me about attacking we're talking about a backup quarterback coming at a fucking freak of nature uh who you know scuffled up with him a little bit actual freak of nature right he's when he was a little bit. Miles Garrett is an actual freak of nature. When he was a recruit in high school coming to A&M, he looked like he had been playing in the NFL for like 10 years already. And you said that he was very calm. He's super mild-mannered. I think that goes to just say when those guys are between the lines, it's like they're not themselves.

You can go home and be a family man and love your kids and donate to charity and be like a big teddy bear, and then you just go like beast mode in there. Sometimes the big teddy bear guys just snap sometimes. Sometimes, yeah. You don't see them coming. I haven't interviewed him since he's been with Cleveland, but obviously when he was at A&M, he was a big storyline because he was obviously one of the best players in the country.

One of the nicest guys to interview, and I'm not just saying that as an aggie it doesn't at that point i was working for espn so it wasn't like you know what that you know what really surprised me about that then because i didn't know that i thought the crate there was two things that i thought were even crazier than the play one was the browns sending uh odell beckham and jarvis landry out to the nfl network set to do a post game like usually you do that when it's like hey we're here with the star of the game. He threw three touchdowns. What do you think?

And they're just like, well, that was awesome. Like done. Instead, Michael Irvin was like, what do you think of this shit? And you got Odell Beckham and Jarvis Landry who were at least one guy is prone to say whatever he wants, whenever he wants. And luckily he was he kind of he saw he was watching the TV in front of him. He was like, oh, damn. I was like the first time I saw it.

Like, yeah, that's inexcusable. But like, why would you send your guys out there in a live situation with that all unfolding? And the second craziest thing, Miles Garrett's postgame. A win's a win. And I don't think this overshadows what we did tonight. Are you fucking crazy? He said that? He said that?

Yes. He said a win is a win. Was it a live hit or was it like a media scrum? It was like at his locker. No, it was the locker. Yeah, it was like at his like at his locker at the podium or no it was at the it was the locker yeah it was like

you know huddling around a locker a win's a win a win's a win so I thought I was like and again in like a sick

fucking you know Roman Coliseum sort of way I was like that's pretty awesome this guy's like doesn't give a fuck

so I thought he was an asshole I'm surprised to hear that he was like a nice guy cause I can see you play football you're all hyped up

someone's ripping your fucking helmet off and you just respond and you go you play football you all hyped up someone's ripping your fucking helmet off and you just respond and you overreact and you're like oh my god like i can't believe i did that but for him to double down i thought he was actually just a sick fuck my thought process when i saw that was like that he had seen red for so long and he was so mad at what mason rudolph did that he hadn't really processed what he did it's like the blackout doesn't excuse it but there's but it explains it kind of like just like i lost my mind for a second i would be shocked if miles garrett stuck with that exact same quote had he actually had time to process it now i have no idea but i know he is very mild-mannered and anybody who's ever worked around him or worked with him would probably say

the same thing but at the same time like he might not have even realized how egregious it was he hadn't seen it or i well again i also think it matters that like the dude got up and was like basically fighting back and then his teammates you know if he if you like clock this guy and he like goes limp and he's like dead i think he'd be like oh my god what have i done yeah instead it was just like dude i was in like a bar fight and you don't think about you know what's going on well and then baker afterwards being interviewed and you know he said he said, he said the same thing. He was like, it's absolutely unacceptable.

And he was like, but not only is it unacceptable to do what he did, he was like, it hurts our team. Yeah. He was like, we're not without one of the best players in the country. And it was, you know, on the field, it was the postgame interview. And so, and he, he held nothing back. He was like, you absolutely cannot do that. And obviously as a quarterback, you're thinking, I'm sure he's in the back of his head.

He's like, holy fuck, what would I do if somebody like swung their helmet at me but the whole thing like and aggies have been tweeting at me all morning like aren't you gonna stand up for an aggie it's like i don't care where he went to school you cannot be ridiculous you cannot this girl on uh on twitter today she was a browns fan i i she just tweeted me you're such a fucking moron and i quickly opened up she deleted it right away because I tried to quote tweet it and it was gone. It's like you can't reply to a deleted tweet or whatever. I hate when people do that. It's like, ugh!

You motherfucker. But I click on her Twitter and it had Baker as her header and her Cleveland bio and all that shit. But I don't get that. I mean I get, of course, defending your team. I was definitely defending the Astros more because I hate the yankees and shit like that but then you reach a certain point where it's like it's not about like who you root for this is just like human life here right there's and you can also do it you can you don't have to be like condemn him to death you can be like right that's the thing it's like i move i'm not gonna sit here and be like oh my god he should go to

jail for this and that has again the pearl clutch again nothing to do with me being an Aggie and him going to A&M nothing the fact is is you cannot swing a helmet at somebody's head you can't do it he should be suspended for it but we don't have to throw him in jail and we don't have to act like he did nothing wrong like I don't understand why it's so hard to just be a rational human well let's well let's talk to an irrational one because John's on the line. John from Virginia, I'm very interested to hear your take on defending Myles Garrett. Yeah, I bet you are. So last night when I saw the play, I was pretty pissed off about it, and I was pretty angry at Myles Garrett.

And as I rewatched it this morning, look, I don't disagree that you can't swing a helmet at somebody. But, you know, at the end of the day, you've got to kind of look at that tape and go, first of all, Rudolph trying to rip his helmet off then he kicks him in the balls and that's i think where uh garrett snapped and i think what garrett's saying is you want to kick me in the nuts is there a bullseye on my balls because if you do i'm going to rip your helmet off i'm going to hit you with it now at the end of the day it's probably the wrong thing to do but garrett's like he's like a gangster now he's going to go away for a little while, and he's going to come back. And when he comes back, if Mason Rudolph's still playing,

the guy needs to sleep with one eye open. Because Garrett just told everybody, you do that to me, I'm going to hurt you. Well, yeah, I mean, that's true. People are definitely going to be afraid of Miles Garrett now. I mean, listen, everything you said about trying to rip the helmet off, kicking the balls, like you're fully warranted to respond, but you respond in kind. You don't you can't. You just can't.

Some people do. Some people don't. But there's a reason. But the people who don't are in the wrong. And there's a reason that we've never seen this happen before. Like, obviously, these guys are hitting each other and being dirty all the time. I mean, and Domkins Sue has been known for that forever, and you never saw somebody, like, rip a helmet and try to swing it at him. But the problem is, is everybody's trying to describe the different shades of wrong.

Is it wrong to kick a guy in the balls on a football field? Probably is. No, no, that's definitely wrong. Yeah, you can't do that. Okay, keep going. It's wrong to rip a guy's, but is it wrong to rip a guy's helmet off and swing it at him? It is. Yes.

Without question it is. And is it wrong to hit someone in the head with a helmetless person in the head with their helmet? It's egregiously wrong. Is it okay to kick a guy in the balls? No, those are wrong. And then there's like, you can't die from getting kicked in the ball no no those are wrong and then there's like if you know you can't die from getting kicked in the balls yeah i mean you're just you're just you can lose your testicle i mean yeah freak shit can happen all the time but it's not it would not be a freak occurrence i

think what what the freak occurrence is that he's okay like yeah like he's he's a he's super lucky you're you're you're basically lumping things into just right and just wrong. Or saying that all physical things are the same, which is not true. And yeah, there are shades of wrong and right, and this is the worst shade of it. Especially in the NFL. Out of any league to do that in, going for his head. That's what I was going to ask you about. So you kept talking about the reaction, the fact he just like got back up and he was okay.

But with how hard he swung the helmet at his head, he very easily could have just fucking gotten knocked out cold. Yes, absolutely. It could have actually killed him. Right. So like I don't think it matters like that he was okay. The intent was still there. Like the force was – it wasn't like a graze. That's why i think you can punish based on the intent it's like attempted murder it's like you can still get in a lot of trouble for attempted murder but you don't get charged as if you murdered

that person yeah because it just didn't happen yeah it just didn't work out you know it's like you still tried could it's like i i if i push you down right now yeah you could have fallen and hit your head on the corner of the table and died. You didn't. So all that happened is I pushed you. So I smashed your head, and you could have died, but you didn't. So what happened? I smashed your head.

And you should get punished according to getting smashed in the head. We got a lawyer on the line. I was waiting for one of these. Frank from Philly. If you're a lawyer in Philadelphia, I would imagine you've seen some shit, so I'm actually going to really trust your opinion here. I would hope so. seen some shit, so I'm actually going to really trust your opinion here. I would hope so. What do we got? So, I'm a civil lawyer.

You guys are talking more about criminal, sort of civil. No, no, I'll talk about criminal in a sec, but as far as civil, I have no doubt Mason Rudolph is going to bring some type of claim. I mean, obviously, it's not going to be a suit, but he'll bring a claim. Miles Garrett's going to pay some money. claim. I mean, obviously, it's not going to be a suit, but he'll bring a claim. Miles Garrett's going to pay some money. There's no way he's not. I would certainly imagine, too, being a backup guy who his money and his career is not for certain.

I would definitely bet he's going to try to cash in there. What about criminally? Criminally? I mean, like you were talking about, but as far as the NFL, if it was any other sport, if it was, that wasn't a major sport,

you would have charges. There would definitely be a criminal charge. If this was a high school game and the person did the same exact thing and brought, brought a helmet off of somebody else's head and hit him with it, he's going to get charged. There's no doubt about it. The only reason it's probably not going to happen is because it's the NFL.

That's the only reason why. I mean, I'm with you on that, but like, that is the reality. We're not talking about like high school kids. I think if a kid gets his head smashed in, there would be parents who are like ready to litigate. I think when you are a paid gladiator, I think that

there are, I mean, he probably can go ahead and try, and I'm sure there would be some grounds for some sort of claim. But I feel like these guys are more just like, this is what fucking – I can't say this is what happens because it never has. But this kind of shit where you're ramped up trying to kill each other, like it went too far this time. But I feel like it's more within the realm of – I don't want to use the word acceptable, but it's just – again, there's levels to it. If it's kids, if it's high school, if it's a completely non-violent non-contact sport that's not what we're talking about but also like think about in baseball it's like yeah if a kid is getting a baseball

thrown at his head in high school versus if a major league baseball player does it it's not the same thing well someone just he hung up so i don't have the call but uh bryce harper threw his helmet at somebody yeah he tried to but he missed all Right, so what was it, in a mound charging situation? Yeah, he charged the mound, and then he kind of went to throw his helmet, but it slipped, and it just zoomed the other way. Got it. That was like the— I mean, granted, a football helmet is way bigger and harder

and heavier than a baseball helmet, and smashing with it, and there's a better grip to control it. I mean, you can grab onto the face. That's the thing. When you throw a helmet, like with with it. And there's a better grip to control it. I mean, that's a Kalo weapon. That's the thing. When you throw a helmet, like with the Bryce Harper thing, obviously it didn't do anything. It just like went away, but that's different than holding onto it and like body slamming it into somebody.

Like smashing someone if you took like a boulder. A football helmet is way more of a weapon than a baseball helmet. I think I saw I don't know if Coley tweeted it or somebody that like a brick weighs less than a football helmet. Like you can't be smashing people't know if Coley tweeted it or somebody that like a brick weighs less than a football helmet. Like you can't be smashing people's heads with bricks.

That was funny. The guy said, consider this, a football helmet is six pounds, a standard brick is five pounds. And Coley said, I've considered it. Yeah.

Let's see. Let's see. I want to see if there's any idiot callers here. You could get a baseball helmet thrown at you and just be like, ah.

Yeah, right. Don't do that again. You get hit with a football helmet and you just fucking die. I mean, again, I think Mason Rudolph, what happened last night, is the one time out of 100 that it ends up that way. And then the other 99 times it ends with broken, fractured skull, bleeding brain, knocked unconscious, or worse. Wasn't some dude bleeding out of the fucking ears?

Yeah, earlier in the game, yeah. No, someone on the Steelers got hit and was like wobbling off the field. And Joe Buck was like, I think he's bleeding from his ears. And that was just a football play. So we are talking about and it was dirty. It was a penalized one. But it was like these are violence occurs here. And this happens to be the most extreme form.

But let's not act like, you know, again, you can't compare it to your average desk job. And you can't compare it to kids and other sports because this is a whole different animal. Mike, what do you got on Garrett compared to the hockey suspensions? Yeah, so, I mean, I think you guys are right on the intent versus impact and the fact that, you know, him getting right up after getting hit will be different than if he were to be down in a space with smashed in. But when you think about the hockey examples, and yes, those were bad outcomes, but you see sticks to the head and to the chest all the time.

To me, it's like in hockey, if some guy were to do the Happy Gilmore and take your skate off and try and stab someone. It's just at a different level with the helmet being used as a weapon. Guys get kicked in the nuts all the time in football, but it's just egregious to use it as a weapon. So same thing as Happy Gilmore. Yeah, when you are doing something that gets the internet to provide pretty valid comparisons to Happy Gilmore,

you fucked up. Yeah. That is actually a pretty sound uh comparison that's my favorite thing about happy gilmore yeah he's the first player ever to take a skate off and try and stop my my fucked up brain the first thing i thought of was this scene from stepbrothers that's what i tweeted was like i saw you know whenever will ferrell is using a bicycle as a weapon and his mom is like i saw my own son use a bicycle as a weapon i tweeted out i saw my own aggie use a helmet as a weapon that's like i was just like well i can get a stepbrother's reference

in here it is one of those like as bad as some of the takes were and as crazy as i'm going this morning some of them are great and obviously if mason rudolph we say this like again and again if he was actually hurt if something actually happened to him nobody is making these like happy gilmore jokes when there's a happy ending. Not a happy ending, but like a safe ending because then we all get to blog about it and laugh about it. The perfect internet serendipity to have the banging meme from the Astros story collide with the football story being like, you know, change-ups coming. Astros bench. Pow.

It is like that is why we have jobs that is why i love doing this that's one of those moments where it's like this is all worth it what did joe buck say about it brian says that joe buck's an idiot i actually didn't even really pay attention what buck was saying what was his take what's up guys uh so he if you listen to his call on it it would sound to you like he pulled a fucking axe out and chopped Mason Rudolph's head off. He overblew it to the max, and I sat there and laughed as curious as the situation was. I'm not a huge Joe Buck

fan, but he sounded like a fucking idiot when you watch it with the video. Well, I am a Joe Buck fan, but we all can remember when he almost fucking passed out on air because of Randy Moss mooning the crowd. He's been known to maybe overreact at semantics. But, again, this time, as much as I am rallying against the overreaction crowd,

in the moment, I don't think there was an inappropriate overreaction. Like, in the moment, I think as an announcer, you have to be like, oh, my fucking God, because it is just – it's a moment in history that it's it's an ugly one but like if joe buck was just like well you know the joe buck gets criticized both directions like his helmet call his helmet catch call wasn't you know good enough his helmet swing call was too over the top you know which one we forgot what uh when roger clemens tried to kill mike piazza yeah sure that was fucking bullshit. Multiple times.

With the ball and the bat. He hit him square in the forehead with a fastball, and then Piazza breaks his back. Clemens fielded it like a ground ball and then threw the wooden shard at him. And then was like, come get some, come get some. After the game, Clemens says, I thought it was the ball.

Why would that excuse it? Why would you be throwing the ball at him? That's not an excuse. No, it's not an excuse. By the way, if anything, the ball, it would have been worse. You probably would have been accurate and probably would have hit him again at point-blank range. Yeah. What a wild thing to say.

I thought it was the ball that I was throwing at him, not this shard of wood. I want every reporter in the room, I to talk to them yeah about this 20 year old incident how was there not a follow-up question like uh what the fuck does that mean roger why the fuck would that be so you meant to throw the ball at him rocket that was just straight up i'm afraid of him too yeah they don't want who knows what this roid monkey's gonna do to me i mean that had to have been just a moment where an athlete, he saw red, he just went blacked out. I mean,

Miles Garrett and Roger Clemens had the same thing happen in their brain last night, which was nothing but pure rage. Why was he even mad in the first place? It would have made sense if like, like Clemens had gotten thrown at

or something like that. Like he hit Piazza in the forehead and then got pissed that he got pissed about it. So he threw a wooden dagger at him. If Piazza grabbed the forehead and then got pissed that he got pissed about it, so he threw a wooden dagger at him. If Piazza grabbed the shard and threw back, that would make more sense. Yes, 100%.

But this is just like, bro, I'm just trying to play baseball, and you keep throwing things at me. You keep throwing projectiles at me, either balls or spears. Stop it. Please stop it. By the way, back to the announcer thing. Like I said earlier, I was watching it in a bar full of people and the entire bar reacted like, holy shit.

If you're an announcer, you're going to react that way. Because normal everyday people were. I don't know if he, what else he said. If he was one of these people like, you know, like give him the death penalty. Assault and all that stuff. But yeah. But as an announcer, you do have to convey that like some people are probably thinking that at home.

So I don't think there was any wrong way to react i would err on the side of like being like holy shit as opposed to like trying to keep calm and just be like well keep it moving here uh take a couple more calls before we hit our first break uh we got a guy who got hit in the head mike from chicago you get your brain smashed into at one point no actually i was married I was Miles Garrett in this situation. Oh, you hit the guy in the head. I'm not backing him up or anything.

So you're a criminal. Okay, continue. So I was in the Men's Beer League Hockey League on Thursday night, and I've never played hockey before.

So I'm skating back on defense. This guy's like 40 years old. It's a non-check league. I check him. He gets up, starts talking shit. And we're going at it for like two minutes.

And then next thing he fucking sets me off. He's like, learn how to skate, you big retard. And that just set me off. I saw Red. I took my stick. I fucking cracked him over the top of the head. I thought I was going to get attacked by the whole team. But the thing is, I wasn't thinking about it.

It just kind of happened. And right after I did it,. Like, but the thing is I wasn't thinking about it. Like it just kind of, it just kind of happened. And right after I did it, I like, I mean, obviously I got sent out. I like took all my equipment off, went to their locker room.

I apologize. I felt like a piece of shit. I had to go to a, I like got, I got suspended indefinitely. I had to go to a hockey court in front of like a whole committee. Just reinstated. At the end of the day,

I got reinstated, you know, but well, I got reinstated. You know? What happened to the guy? How hurt was he? He was wearing a cage. He was wearing a full cage. I mean, he was freaking out for sure. I mean, he comes up to me.

He's like, you know, I got a wife and kids at home. This is a grown-ass man we're playing against. Yeah, I mean, here's the thing, Mike. You're a bad person. No, I mean, here's the thing. You don't sound like a bad person but it is scary that there are some people and i don't know about you or miles garrett i don't know if you've got like some anger issues or some pent-up shit but you know like some people when

they reach their breaking point they might throw a punch or something it's scary when someone reaches a breaking point when they have like a weapon in their hands and you know what if what if what if uh you know what if you're married with a kid, Mike? What if your wife one day pissed you off and you saw red? I hope you don't hit her. You can't jump to these reactions.

No, I know exactly what you're saying, but it's a different situation. When you're playing a sport, it's like... I agree. It's different. Me and my... I don't have a wife right now but if i you know and that's completely different i have self-control like that but again i was younger i was playing a sport i wasn't exactly you know sure i didn't really know the rules but i know you can't hit someone in the head with a stick i know that but pretty standard rule no i mean you're right and and uh i mean it's it's good

that you you know you should show remorse and whatnot. Uh, for sure. I understand. Yeah, I understand, but not right what he did, but shit happened.

Well, sometimes, yeah, it's tough to say shit happens though. When you like potentially maybe could murder somebody, but, um, I think cracked them over there with a stick. There's not,

it's not an, there's a difference between, it's not an excuse. It is like a reason, you know, it's like there is different circumstances when you're playing sports. You're in the heat of the moment. You're trying to be violent, trying to be physical. Someone's coming at you.

It is different than your everyday life. So it doesn't excuse it, but you can't make some of these comparisons because they don't hold weight. Miles Garrett has officially made a statement. Go ahead, read it. Last night, I made a terrible mistake. I lost my cool and what I did was selfish and unacceptable. I know that we are all responsible for our actions,

and I can only prove my true character through my actions moving forward. I want to apologize to Mason Rudolph, my teammates, the entire organization, our fans, and to the NFL. I know I have to be accountable for what happened, learn from my mistake, and I fully intend to do so. See, okay, here's the problem. That is all well and good. That you should have been able to say at your locker without your PR team.

Like that was as generic as – not in a bad way. Like that should have been what he said right away at the locker. I mean he obviously didn't write that. But that's what I'm saying. It's like he should have been able – you don't need – you shouldn't need someone to write that. That was as basic as it gets. I lost my cool. I was selfish. That was as basic as it gets. I lost my cool. I was selfish.

That was crazy. I'm sorry to everyone that I hurt. You needed to wait 12 hours, 18 hours, and have someone write that for you? Yeah. I think that makes it seem pretty disingenuous, but obviously he wasn't going to say anything other than that is disingenuous when you're talking about murdering someone. Right. Pretty much. But I don't know. That would be one time where i would be like whoa i bet he's got crazy out there hand up hand

up but he i that's why i said maybe he just hadn't processed it yet yeah i guess like if you black if he was still black out the media is coming at you yeah maybe i mean obviously again if you're overhand swinging a helmet at somebody's head i feel like you kind of know you're doing that but maybe he didn't. And at some point, like no matter what the circumstances are, something should kind of sober you up and snap you out of it, and that should be it. It's ridiculous to me that people think that I should defend him or anybody should defend him. Like you cannot swing a helmet at somebody's head. You just can't do it.

Pretty basic, except if it's Speidelberg. I would love to smash that fat bitch with a fucking brick yeah he's gonna take over for me because I gotta get out of here I'm done I was just an unnecessary shot that was me at my way of you know segueing fights into the show saddle up partner hello I'm out of here for the week like Kevin

McAllister from Home Alone oh hello smash you with a brick all right you guys stay hot. I'll catch you on Monday and Fidelberg and the Rockets will take you through the rest of the day. Catch you later. Bye. Bye.

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