KFC Radio - CCK Podcast: Just Press Record

Episode Date: September 21, 2020

Unnecessary Roughness drama summary: Unnecessary Roughness gets a new intern Katie, she is really good so Dave & Dan take notice and want her on College Football Show, Brandon Walker wants to keep her for himself, Dave says that BW already has JackMac, BW says all JackMac does is press record, JackMac says that he'll leave the show then, BW says he'll join the Proud Boys, Kayce still wants JackMac on the show, BW says he's just joking but tries to ge tother procuers to work on the show, all the producers say know and that JackMac is their hero, go listen to Unnecessary Roughness to see how the rest of the drama unfoldsYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/kfcr

Hey, KFC Radio listeners, you can find every episode of KFC Radio on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Kevin! Kevin! Kevin! Kevin! Oh. Kevin! You're just ridiculously stupid. Welcome back! Welcome back! Welcome back! Welcome! Welcome! Welcome! Is this Kevin? Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back. Welcome, welcome, welcome.

Is this Kevin? Welcome back. Oh yeah, man, how you doing? You good? I know you like that. I know you like that. How long you been back? Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome.

Let's go. It's Friday, and I wanted to come in today. You know, I did my video this morning about the fucking Fast Times at Ridgemont High table read. It was stunning. It was great. Shia LaBeouf. Wanted to have a nice day. I was laughing at Shia.

Everyone's talking about Brad Pitt and Jennifer Aniston getting back together. Had a lovely little morning before I come over here. And then I walk in. I just get smacked in the face with drama from your stupid college football world. And so now we're in the thick of it. I got Casey here, of course. Jared over up in Boston. Jared, we got drama. There's a lot of beef.

We got beef, but we got drama. I'll explain it because we also are joined by Jack Mack. Jack Mack won. And so... College football Jack Mack. College football Jack Mack is part of unnecessary roughness longs i'll give you the super abbreviated version so we can get right into the juicy the juicy shit there is a new employee here by the name of katie who does incredible uh college

football research she has a lot of stats and analysis she's your jay hey she's got no nugs for days okay nugs central and uh dave calls her savant. So it caught the eye of Dan and Dave because her picks her, her stats are so good for making picks called her a savant. They want her to work on like the pick them podcast and pick central and, you know, everything under the sun, right? Everything where they're making picks,

they want Katie. So I guess, all right, so that's where I go. So then what happened there? Then Katie was like loyal. So she's been working with Unnecessary Roughness for a while. And in the college football show, which Dan and Dave are on. Right. And then Brandon Walker, since he's kind of floating between both worlds of Unnecessary Roughness and all the Dan and Dave content, they start going at it. And he's like, you can't have my girl. You can't have like my pics and my information and all that shit.

So it's getting very territorial in the process. They're like, well, you already have Jack Mack. And now Brandon is like, fuck Jack Mack, basically. Right. That's how you feel. Well, or at least that's what's being said. And a little bit of a background for people who don't listen to unnecessary roughness. This has been an ongoing storyline for the last couple of months, because when Katie first became full time, Brandon brought her on.

And we saw that she I mean, she really does. The stats that she pulls out are things that are just crazy. She puts it all together like syllabus day at college. PowerPoint presentation. Oh, yeah. PowerPoint presentation. She goes above and beyond. It's it's it's very, very impressive.

However, it's been discussed on and off the mic that she does not produce the show. She doesn't edit. She doesn't do any of those things. Jack does. So the real problem was then Brandon Walker stepped up and said that you just press record. Correct. And that had to be where this all went south, right? And we've been talking about it on the podcast, Jack.

It's been a very funny storyline for the last couple months but it's always been has it been a funny uh funny storyline for you this whole time i've thought it was from casey was always a joke for brandon brandon it seemed like uh i don't know what he's saying and then i knew what he was saying i thought it was a joke and like it was content you know you you play along with it and i've liked katie since she's been here she started full time back in january and she's been on the vice for a team and she's been great and then she wanted to put some more stuff on her plate during uh the football season and now her plate is fucking now we're playing oh she's got a buffet yeah and a buffet a bit but i i like katie and i thought since katie's come on it's taken the

podcast to a new level and but then today brandon here yesterday he made a comment um after he was done with probably walk the line or something and i think he said something like to gas because Gaz was like, oh, Gaz was Gaz-ing yesterday. Katie's my employee too. Of course, Gaz. Yeah. And then Brandon said, oh, you can just have Jack. Don't worry about it. And then I was like, okay, Brandon, go ahead, do that. Like, I don't, whatever.

And then today on Pick Central, he crossed another line. And while doing it, like on the rundown, you made kind of, when we were talking about who we were talking about. The Daily Caller guy. The Daily Caller guy. You guys were joking around. But then today he said I was going to found the like the Proud Boys section of Barstool Sports. And I didn't think he was joking.

So I thought that was my question because I've called you a Proud Boy before, but you just I know. But I knew you were joking. And I think Brandon was joking, but it went along with there was multiple lines crossed, and I needed to draw the line in the sand somewhere. Right. But he's drawing the line in the sand, and it's fucking me over because it's- And your form of drawing the line in the sand is that you're done with unnecessary roughness? My form?

No, no. My line in the sand is I'm going to do what Brandon says I do. Come in and press record. Come in and press record, and then I'll leave, and then we'll see what happens. My line in the sand is I'm going to do what Brandon says I do. Come in and press record. Come in and press record, and then I'll leave. And then we'll see what happens. You know what the problem is? Everybody in the production room is like, shit, like Zaza. All the producers love it.

And I get it. And if it was not my podcast, I would think it was very funny. But it's also my fucking podcast. Josh came to me and said, somebody said, like, what would you do? And I was like, I would press fucking record and walk out. Because that has got to be the most satisfying, like, okay, somebody said like, what would, what would you do? And I was like, I would, I would press fucking record and walk out. And cause that has got to be the most satisfying, like, okay then,

because I think what happens here and I am, I don't do this because I am keenly aware, but there's so much more that goes on behind the scenes that you probably don't know when you're on the mic. And then I've been here long enough that I've seen it. And I, and I, uh,

with videos, with videos, with audio, all of it, you know, there's a lot that goes in. And just because, you know, some shows do like a full fucking edit where it's like,

you're chopping down five hours into one hour. A lot of shows, we don't do that where it's like, you know, it's kind of one take, but then there is so much more that goes on with promotion and distribution and social. And just even the logistical bullshit of uploading and yada, yada, yada. That if you take for granted, one might just say you're pressing record.

Can I? What are we doing? What do you mean? We're getting to the bottom of this. I obviously wasn't being serious when I said it was a joke. Then I said he just pressed record. That's a joke. Obviously, he does more work than that.

You don't you don't have to. Why is everybody here not taking it as a joke that when I said he just pressed record. That's a joke. Obviously, he does more work than that. You don't have to convince me. Why is everybody here not taking it as a joke then? I have no idea. Are we at Barstool? What the fuck are we doing? Listen, I walked into this, so you tell me. You're taking it seriously? It sounds like he doesn't know.

Yeah, it sounds like you are presenting this in a way where he's confused to be like, I don't know. It sounds like you're being serious. I was on camera. I said, Jack just pressed his record. Obviously like you've been serious. I was on camera. I said, Jack just pressed his record. Obviously, you'd do more than that. Yeah. What are we doing? Well, okay. Then why? And then the Proud Boys comment. That was funny.

I don't know. We can't say jokes now. I could call it a moron. I could call it everything. I say something about this. To be fair, I mean, yesterday on the rundown, or two days ago, I said that you're a proud boy who sets up crosses to burn. He was joking. I laughed it off. I thought it was funny.

I didn't hear your comments, so I don't know the context. I would love to actually hear it because I think we can decide if it was serious or not. I don't really remember what it was. It was like that. But you know, this is how these things start. Somebody said he's going to leave, and I said, what's he going to go do? Join the Proud Boys or something?

Something like that. Okay. That actually does sound like a joke to me. Of course it's a joke. What are we doing? But the combination of like, well, then he can leave kind of thing is, I think it's two in one. I mean, this is how, yo, listen, this is how this shit goes, because people, all jokes

and Brandon Walker walks out. I think all of these like jokes and things always have a, a hint. Now he's emotional. Yeah. That, that to me, that was worse.

That to me just made things so much worse. That was, that to me just basically confirms that, that, that there was a decent amount of truth in that. And this is coming from, right. Am I guys?

That was a, that was a walk. What do you think? Uh, I just cut to the camera and I saw that he was gone. I personally love it all. Right, but if you were, Jack's going to be back.

Jack's not going to just go and press record. But if you were Brandon Walker right there, would you have gotten up and left like that? If you were really joking, I would have just sat here and be like, dude, I was just fucking joking. Well, I mean, I respect my producers, so I would have sat here and had a conversation.

I mean, it's just coming from somebody who sits not in between them, but in the same room as them every time. I noticed that it started getting a little bit more heated. A little chippy. A little chippy. And then it started getting chippy even between Jack and Katie. And we kept making the joke again on the podcast. If you listen to the podcast, you know it's been a running storyline where it's like the kids are fighting, the adults are fighting sometimes.

We made the joke about how we needed to take Jack out for ice cream. We were like, we've got to take him out to ice cream. That was in-house, but then Dan and Dave get in the mix, and things get escalated. Now everyone's got an opinion. Now Brandon's probably trying to put on a front for the big boys while also trying to keep his team happy. No big boys while also trying to keep his team happy. You know, there's a lot.

No, he's not trying to keep the team happy. You know who's trying to keep the team happy? Mom. I'm cooking and cleaning over here. And so Josh runs Viva La Stool. You talk about coming in happy on a Friday. I was fucking happy as shit. We did the NFL show yesterday.

I didn't have as much on my plate. I just got done shooting the group chat. And Josh comes up to me with a phone in my face. No. Something's happening. Josh is borderline Vibs-esque. Josh comes around and is like, fuck. Yes.

I had my hands full with my lunch and my microphone. And Blattman took it out of my hands. I was like, oh, so this is a real thing. And Josh immediately tells me that Jack is basically, he didn't say quitting, but essentially quitting unnecessary roughness. He'll be there to press record. But here's the thing. I immediately went to Jack and said, this is punishing me because I am a 50-50 co-host with Brandon on Unnecessary Roughness. And every single podcast, I go above and beyond to not only tell Jack how good of a job he does, to tell Katie how good of a job she does.

I also compliment Jack's hair every podcast. That's true. Every single podcast. Wait, we're going to get to calls in a good of a job she does. I also compliment Jack's hair every podcast. Wait, we're going to get to calls in a second because they're lighting up. Is there a way you can edit Casey? Can you do your work for Casey on the podcast? Just mute him maybe? Brandon's mic is off and metallic and he doesn't get any social

clips. It's definitely like, yeah, that could definitely be what I would do. But then here's the thing though. That also fucks me over too because it is such a back and forth because like brandon and i like we don't even we don't have guests or anything because maybe do one show like that i why i i said maybe we should mutiny i said if brandon it doesn't want jack to show up then maybe i just don't show up but then i realized that's strong a line in the sand and i can't draw a line to do their jobs okay well there's been enough drama over the last six

months where people just decide to stop working you can't draw a line against my co-host. Listen, everyone has to do their jobs, okay? There's been enough drama over the last six months where people just decide to stop working. You can't do that anymore. You have to keep fucking working. Oh, I'm not going to stop working, but I'm trying to figure out how we can appease Jack.

All right, well, let's take some calls. We'll hear what the people are saying, and then we'll figure out a way to find out if Proud Boy is going to stick around.

I'm not trying to be one of them in podcasts. Gavin in Indiana. What do you got, Gavin? Well, it's kind of unfortunate. Brandon stormed out. I had, well, he's baby Brandon. He had to run into way to his, to his, to his nursery and hop in the crib and sing a lullaby.

But you know, it is what it is. Yeah. And I feel bad for Casey, but Brandon 100% is backtracking right now. He said that out of spite and now he's trying to bail himself out by saying he was joking. I think so. Listen listen i'm the king i've been doing this shit a long time whether it's in my personal life or even here and i don't really do it here but in my personal life i'll definitely be like that was a joke it was a joke and it fucking wasn't at the time so i've dug myself into plenty of holes trying to just and then just you you gotta say what you can to get out of it.

All right, so point for Jack Mack. Caden from Texas on the other side of the things. What's up, Caden? Hey, what's up, Kevin and Casey? Hope you guys are having a great Friday. You too, Caden. Hey, I'm kind of on Team B-Walk here. No offense to Jack Mack.

I mean, listen to Pick Central for an hour and then stick around for that next hour listen to the yak brandon walker gets shit on for two hours every single day it's called a fat hairy bitch called a fat fuck um i mean you can't blame the guy for being a little bit on edge um all right but but wait a minute then that implies that you that you think he did like snap and and he did snap out of frustration and out of being made fun of, and he wasn't just joking. Look, Kevin, Brandon snaps every single day. I mean, that's in his DNA.

That is in his DNA, and that's why I love Brandon. I think that's why Caden is right. It is true, and I will say Caden is right because he does get it very hard on the college football show, too. And in fact, last year was so hard for him in that on that side of things, because Dave and Dan do just do just rile him up before the first show this year. I said, how can we set you up for success where you're not getting shit on every single day? And it's already. Well, this is what happened. But this is what happens in like a business setting you if

you have like a bully boss you then bully the people beneath you because you get shit on all day and you're like well then i'm gonna shit on someone and that's what's happening in this content see but this is the thing is that i would understand if jack was a content producer like and was a third mic that somebody else is producing like if you and i'm saying this brandon should come after me if that's what he wants to do because we can go back and forth content wise. Jack edits the podcast.

It would be like me going after Blattman and him just being like, you know what? I'm not going to edit the college football show anymore or Logan, I'm not going to edit the NFL show. You need your producers. We need our producers because I don't know how to do it as fast. And the fact that Brandon, I understand Brandon,

he does snap and he does get made fun of a lot. But go after somebody that's not going to put our podcast out. Corey from Canada, what do you got? Hey, guys, how are you today? I've been driving all day listening to this. It's been fucking hilarious. I just wanted you guys to step back for one second. It's going to be a ricochet shot.

But is Brandon Walker not the new Smith? Is he not the exact same fucking character as funny as hell, everything like that, but gets a little too sensitive too quickly and then all of a sudden, snap shows and spots out.

Spot the lie there. I mean, there's a lot of sensitivity. It's very funny for Brandon Walker to come in here and say like, are we not at Barstool? We can't make jokes anymore? It's like, bro, like a minute ago, your nickname was Baby Brandon. So, you know, let's a couple, I mean, Smitty with

one of the all-time great like character turnarounds of all time in Barstool history. Yeah, well, because he found his, you know, video games kind of was able, he was able to like flourish and thrive. He got married, which is happier. Yeah, he, because he found his, you know, video games kind of was able. He was able to, like, flourish and thrive. He got married. He was just happier. Yeah, he just became like an adult.

Yeah. He became an adult. What do you what do you need, Jack? Yeah, Jack. What's your list of demands right now? I an apology. He said earlier he doesn't even need an apology. I don't even want an apology.

Just want to, like, fight Katie to death. No, no. This has never been. I said it to Katie and Katie 30 minutes to an hour ago, whenever we were talking. It's on Viva. This isn't a Katie thing. This isn't a Casey thing. I like them both.

It'd be pretty tough to be mad at Katie. Yeah, I'm not. Katie's just doing her job, and she's doing a really good job. But she's also just like very, she's like sweet and quiet and like smart. You know what I mean? I'm not mad at Katie at all. I was almost ready to bury the hatchet, but then the walkout was brutal. Brandon walkout Walker.

Like I will show, the thing is at the end of the day, I'll show up on Sunday. There's ads that need to be recorded. You got your own job. Yeah. I mean, you walk out, you're on the job. There's ads that need to be recorded. Yeah. yeah i mean you walk out you're on the job you know there's ads that need to be recorded yeah there's money that needs to be made for the company that assures me that i can get a paycheck and then like i can pay rent right and make food like oh well and along those lines we did make

the joke last week that you say every time you walk into your apartment you thank brandon walker that the lights are on because he's giving you this opportunity like it's that it's become that much of a deep storyline. Something happened between recording two days ago and this morning that has no longer made it funny. Well, I mean, it was when he went on the other shows with Dan and Dave and it's like now it's outside of your unnecessary roughness bubble. Was that the problem? Dan and Dave yesterday.

It was with Gads yesterday. And Kevin Bonner too. And Kevin and saying saying you can have jack and then i'm like two like okay like i i told casey too it's like sometimes like you're proud like you like the team you're on you're a proud boy i wish i shouldn't have said you like the team you're on yeah thankful for being drafted by that team but then they trade you and you know what this is business but we're not trading well i don't know it sounds like no it sounds like people trying to trade yesterday but this is the thing is that and donnie said

this perfectly like donnie just from the clouds like turned around the pillar and he's like well in a trade don't you get somebody that does the same thing or like ideally you would get somebody in return if like jack can't be traded because all the producers have his back i mean brandon tried to to trade him for avery and avery was like no i'm busy i don't i can't come in on sunday so i mean because avery had jack's back like once you once you become like a big enough thriving podcast there's really no reason you can't have two supplemental people. You can do the editing and like the technical work. She does, you know, some sort of more producing, I guess, if you will, with like material to read all that.

They tag team the social. But that's the problem. The problem. I think that would have been fine if Dan and Dave and Rico and everyone didn't like find her treasure trove of nuggets and be like I want her well see then you guys could have just kept operating the four of you no problem well well Dave had been getting her notes too because and Dave did give me credit for pointing her out to him yesterday oh yeah he's really caseful by the way right but Brandon texted me yesterday and was like don't ever tell Dave about our good employee again I was like other than that

I knew that was a joke but she left her her notes on dave's desk before the first college football show and he mentioned to me how in-depth they were and how good they were so i told him about katie so yesterday on the rundown brandon wasn't even on the rundown brandon didn't know any of this happened i just heard dave tell dan on the rundown about her and then i just said please don't take her away from unnecessary roughness and dave was, she can do both because you're the one who told me about her. Rico got caught in the crossfires because they found out he's been using squeezed out again. The squeeze out.

Well, now Rico did say with Jack, he did say this, this morning, I think this tool scenes cameras were there. He did say that if Jack takes a play from his playbook, he'll leave, but he'll come back.

He'll storm out, but he'll be back. Let's go to burn in iowa what's up burn what's up guys drama drama drama dude what's good right so first off jack mac you're the man dog no worries we all love you out here just keep doing your thing i feel like brandon just gets shit on like all day hi dave and big cat and the boys so then he kind of tries to relay that down no i understand no i understand and i mean casey you know this too i mean brandon shit on me on the podcast for every single episode in like the last year. Yeah. And like, I understand that's part of being a producer, being a third mic,

like it's content, but it always, it always, listen, it's human nature. It's like, yeah. Like I had that with Dave for years and then eventually things always get

like a little real and a little personal. And then everyone's like a big boy about it, but it's like, but it's not the same as it was, you know, like six months ago, six years ago. Like if,

if, if Brandon really just wants to give me back to gas Gaz 100 percent, then I'll just go back to. No, but see, that's my point. That's my point, Jack. If he gives you back to Gaz, he's taking you away from me and I need you. No, I don't. Who do you think is to really to blame here, Bern? So here's what I have to say.

I've been listening to every show and I've been listening for a long time I mean there's Whenever Dave's gone you know In the fall Things crank up People are getting busy and whatnot But this year It has been wild

Everyone's kind of been going at each other's throat And I think the real person to blame here is Dave He's the suit Starts at the top right? Starts at the top, right? Starts at the top. It's a top down. He claims he's like the Belichick, but he's lost the locker room. But here's the thing.

I agree. Thank you. I agree. But there's also a big element that we all keep forgetting about is that his normal drama that he gets to create before he goes to Nantucket, he didn't get this year because we're in a well, now a country pandemic is the rest of the world. Figure the fuck out. We just haven't,

but all the drama that normally would have been happening over the summer just didn't. Cause we were all stuck in our homes. So it's all been bottled up. And then it just so happens to coincide with football season. And then every other sport playing on top. You know what? I also think there might be an element of like,

I don't think unnecessary reference gets its proper due as like a big time college football podcast. Like if it's the number one college football podcast in the country. Right. So like if if if Jake Marsh was doing something, Dave, I don't think would be like, you're just you're just on my show now because he'd be like, all right, that's like a thing that like you know like fuck i don't have it like those guys i can't mess with that crew dave did give unnecessary roughness credit for her that's the that is the one thing i can say he didn't try to take her yeah from the show he just wants her in addition to he wants her in addition to but then once brandon was like no she's mine that's when the problem happened like dave was very very capable now is being like you can't tell me what to do and there's a crossover here too like Katie can make and then make her stats a little bit more gambling wise for pick them and then we can use the same stats

and she can stay out Katie Casey said this a million times Katie doesn't want to leave on a Sarah roughness her body her choice yeah yeah yeah and so with katie and i i told casey yesterday before all this blew over before the comments of gas by b walk that she'll be able to do both she'll just be really busy right and she also the whole thing ties together too with the fact that all four of us in this this content storyline all sit at a desk and talk college football together so we've got a gambling podcast and pick them so they talk the gambling lines on unnecessary roughness we just talk the storylines and the drama and whatever else we make picks but it's not as much gambling because dan and dave do that and then we all come together for a big show

all about college football so why can't all four of us just have the same information and jack can produce mine case it's way too logical i don't know who produces who produces pickup i don't know they can i think it would all work and then it would benefit everybody but it's not even about that anymore now it's about it's not about a personal it's a personal pride attack and work ethic all that shit and again at the end of the day there's a podcast to produce and i'll come in on Sunday. And it's kind of like when a locker room's lost, like you're showing up on Sunday. It's not going to be the same.

It's just like, yeah, when the coach yells at you, you're just like, fuck you, dude. Yeah. Like, yeah, you're really getting under my skin now. This all boils down to Brandon. It really does. Because and and and also he's been insulting his producers for a while now. Oh, yeah? Oh, boy.

This is his thing? Jack just got a co-sign. I'm getting a lot of nods going on. I will say this. And it's like a joke, but then it's like, you've been doing this. He did it to Kareem. He does it to Jack McCarthy. That's a bad sign.

That's like, you know, when people say, if you don't return your shopping carts at the grocery store, it's like the number one sign, you know, someone's an asshole. Yeah. Around here. It's the shopping cart test. Yes. And then you sit on your producers. It's like. And I think it's a joke and it's a part of the content, but also at a certain point across the line.

And then somebody comes in new, not the person that's been by your side for a year plus Kareem, Jack McCarthy and whatnot. And somebody just because the stat sheet gets noticed, you're ready to put everyone to the side. He likes a shiny new toy. And I mean, listen, I'll tell you,

you know, I've been here a long time. There's definitely like shiny new toy syndrome at Barstool for sure, where you can be doing, you can put your head down and do great work. And if you're not the new thing, the cool thing, the big thing,

you're not going to get, it's just part of it. That's part of the game. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying like Nick's job is KFC all the way KFC radio. And Nick does phenomenal work and puts in ridiculous hours. I'm not saying I'm like the nick of unnecessary roughness we all have different jobs and different things we have to take care of i have different responsibilities

as well but at the end of the day it's just this is a common trend that i've seen i think at time it's like and i think the producers that's why they're standing with jack mack it's because i mean you're a hero. You're like MLK. You just referred yourself as a third person, correct? No. Zod just called him a fucking hero. He's standing up for the Voiceless. That's why the producers are with him.

Maybe you guys should erect a Jack Mack statue. That's why Avery was like, no, I'm busy on Sunday. Fuck you, dude. I'm not going to cross the picket line. Yeah, he's in the picket line. I talked to Mikey Podcast as well. I saw Mikey. He was like, this is great.

Because obviously Mikey is ahead of producing all of our podcasts. It's I just Jack, I just need you to know from the bottom of my heart. Mom wants you. Mom wants you. I've always said. Mom still loves you. Mom is not blaming you for anything. Casey's been a massive for my career.

And she's always been.'s always going to cry. And I've always appreciated her through since I was an intern and since she started here. But right now it's like it's like it's for everybody on that side of the office. It's you know what? I honestly everybody's nodding and smiling and like fist pumping. That's what Jack I'm okay with what you just said, because what I was going to say was that you have been doing the college football podcast

since before Brandon was even a speck, what's the speck in Dave's eye? Yeah. You were doing the podcast when comeback season that Pat produced was with me and Johnny Manziel. Yeah. And then you, me and Dave

would do a Monday podcast. So Jack has been a part of the college football podcast because I wanted Jack to be a part of it so whenever pat started taking on a lot of the other duties for for barstool breakfast and he started doing video content all that i was like well this makes too much sense brandon walker college football guy we're gonna do a podcast let's have jack so he's been a part of my college football world since i started at barstool i can't lose it so i feel like let's talk to an OG listener here.

Okay. Dylan's on the line and then we'll talk to him and then I'm going to give, I think what I think should happen and we'll go to our break. What's up Dylan? Hey, what's going on? What you got on this drama, man? I love the drama. Yeah, I know.

Everyone does. Everyone loves it. Listen, Jack, I know, I know Casey's with you, but I might be pot stirring a little bit here, but what you got to Jack, I know Casey's with you, but I might be hot-spirited a little bit here, but what you got to do, since you got the producer with you, you sit out on Sunday. Let's see how that podcast goes. That was my initial plan.

It's an interesting idea. And then my initial plan was it was going to kind of be a sneak attack on Sunday, but then just because, like, how this place works, I let my plan out in the open. And then of course that gets Josh, Josh went to what's just Josh's job. That's Josh's job. That is also you're shooting yourself in the foot.

I know that's my, when this escalates and go ups the ladder and, and like Eric and our D he's like, so you're the producer of the show and it just didn't come out on Sunday. Then, you know, yeah, but I,

but it is an interesting thought. I mean, it is. My plan was never not to make sure that the ads got out and the podcast didn't get out. My plan was on 1230 when I pressed record. Then we'll see what happens. Like, we'll see. I think you guys should show up. 1230 is when you record.

Well, we haven't decided. I would 1229. I would walk in there with a line of people. I'd walk in with Zah and Pat and you and Nick and Avery. And everybody stands there with like one fist in the air. And you press record and you all walk out single file. And you say, that's what I'm here for, bro. I press record.

Make a statement. But then maybe come back and do the ads because we do have to record like five ads. That's the thing that it's a tricky thing because at the end of the day, you can't lose that bread. It's your own shit you gotta worry about. He also runs our social and Katie

does help him with that, but we also have social ads that we have to put out that Jack has to put the video without that. I've had dreams of this. I have had had dreams of being like all right i'm gonna just stop doing everything like no cck no videos and we'll see what happens and then i'm like you know what happened even even if like behind the scenes there was a big fucking what yeah like yeah next like maybe if i did that like millions of dollars revenue go out the door but they but dave and people like that would be happy to be like, well, we don't care, you know, like fuck off.

So it's a hard it's a hard place to play hardball at. But I also wouldn't I wouldn't hate some sort of statement. Rocket, what do you think the kids should do to maybe make a statement while not, you know, jeopardizing his own situation? Jared, like this would be like Bren. This would be like Brennn for you just like saying she's not going to show up. I know, and that would ruin me because, I mean, at least with Brynn,

I value Brynn more than anything in the world. You wouldn't be able to tie your shoes in the morning. She's more than just my producer. She's like my life handler. So I think my relationship with Brynn varies greatly from brandon's relationship with jack mack that's uh but i think yeah if i i think my way more petty wait what isn't jay

a pretty apt comparison yeah yeah i guess jay's kind of like a combination of katie and jack and that like he's doing the logistical shit but he he also is doing the He hasn't been doing the podcast because of his actual job. He hasn't been able to be the third Mike, but he's obviously a very big key cog in what Dallas and I do. If he were to just walk out

one day, yeah, right. What would be your kind of... I would give terrible advice to Jack Mack because I am petty like i think there was uh i usually act aggressively and then come to my senses like i think when when we got punished like the yankee fans got punished and i got looped into that and they were like yeah you can't watch the game i actually like stormed out of the office and like walked around the block because i was like like, if I stay here, I'm going to flip over a fucking table. I'm going to quit the company. Like I was furious. And then I was like,

all right, it's one game. Like it could be funny. Like it might be good content, like whatever. So I think, I mean, if you're, if your initial reaction is to be pissed off and like walk out, like there's a way that you can do it while you're also creating content instead of actually sabotaging the podcast. I'm not going to sabotage the podcast. No, no, no. But I do think the real answer would be,

and I don't know what it is off the top of my head, but like a funny display that makes content also kind of proves your point. I mean, at the end of the day, Mondays when we release a podcast, it's going to have to be... Also, by the way, this will probably be one of your more listened to episodes.

Listened to episodes. At the end of the day... You know what you should do? You have control of the edit. I know, I know. So that's where you could just record your own podcast on the side. Just drop it. I could shut Brandon's mic off and it would just be like,

you don't know what Brandon's saying. And you just like chime in like, you know, a clear like edit after the fact being like, actually this is like completely factually incorrect. Brandon Walker doesn't know what he's talking about. It was 1999. Not do that. Whatever.

Like you can fact check everything he says. You can mock everything he says. You can edit it in such a way. However you please. You should change his voice tone. Yeah, yeah sure why don't you make him why don't you have why don't you do like the the the jared hubbs voice if the whole pot like you should talk to that already to be honest it would take a lot of work but i would help you out if you give me a transcript of everything that brandon said on the podcast i would read it in the current voice. And you can just jump it back in. His eyes are like this right now, Jared.

Yes, Ohio State this week is going to be a great showdown. The funny thing is, though, Brandon already kind of speaks like that, so we might need a different voice because that's not much of a change. He also just doesn't care. He changes his voice all the time on the podcast. He goes insane. He has this maniacal laugh that's become a thing.

He has no pride on the podcast because it's what we love the most. So shaming him like with a voice there's got to be a way though you got some time to think of it in the next 48 hours and uh well i mean like i never quit because it came like i think d said that i quit probably because it was said here but it was but it was but it wasn't like um i but it was, but it wasn't like, um, I kind of did though. So it wasn't like you were wrong.

I was boiling everything down basically. Yeah. Yeah. And I want, but my thing is I'm pressing record and then, but from now on for the next 48 hours, however long until we record, we're going to,

we'll figure it out. And then the podcast is going to come out on Monday. It has to come out on Monday. There's a, there's games tomorrow. There's stuff that happens. This is your time to shine. Like, I understand the position that you're in. You're hurt by what Brandon said, but now you're like the, the backing that you have

in the office. And now with the voice of the voiceless, this is your time to make a stand and be like, well, this is what Jack Mack can do. Zah called him a hero. He called him a hero. MLK. You're standing up. You're standing up.

Oh, the irony. You're standing up for those that can't stand up for themselves. Yesterday he's getting called a proud boy. Today he's getting called MLK. What a whirlwind for Jack Mack. All right, let's hit our break. Dylan, final answer. What would you do?

You would walk out? You would not record an episode? Listen, if there's bread on the table, fuck, I don't... A Dominican doesn't walk away from bread, so you got to figure something out where the bread stays on the table. And also, go Hurricanes this weekend.

Casey, I don't know why the fuck you're going with Louisville. You're not going in the hole with me. I know. I don't know about Derek King, but we'll talk about it on Monday, Dil. Derek? Derek! Derek! Have a good weekend, Dil.

No, it's Derek. Fuck both of you. His name is Derek. Okay. You can't blame us. That sounds like you don't know how to say Derek because you don't know how to pronounce it. No, no, no. It's D-E-R-I-Q.

Fine, but I also think she says Derek Derek no I say Derek Derek Deerick Deerick thank you Jack this is why I need Jack around let's hit a break when we come back we'll get into some other shit and we'll take you through to 3 o'clock

it's CCK I E S B E C T find out what it means to me I E S B E C T take out C C P Barstool. This song does suck. Oh, God. A Justin Bieber song called Holy. I mean, cases come everywhere. There's like a line about him like sprinting to the altar. It's like, dude, come on. Like, if you want to like make like a fucking Christian album, like put it out separate.

Like to become like a Christian fucking artist. You guys clearly haven't listened to this song. It's about holding. Yeah, and it's talking about how he feels spiritual when he has sex with his wife. Yeah, but it's called holding you. It's holy, holy, holy. Nobody likes that. Everybody. This song

is popping. It's not a Christian. It's not a Christian song. Yes, it is. It's about sprinting to the altar. Of course it has Christian. To marry her. Listen, songs about spiritual love and getting married don't fucking put asses in the sand. I mean, the song is called Holy. It's a deny that it has religious connotations.

No, no, of course. I'm going to be honest. I thought it was actually going to be a full-blown God song. I really did, which I mean, like I've said, I know Kanye's losing it. It's not a full-blown God song. It's not. He's talking about having sex. With his wife.

With his wife. Well, he has sex with his wife. I don't know what. But that doesn't count. I don't think the word... That doesn't get the juices flowing. I don't... That song is so sexy.

Like, when you get together with the boys... They're not putting that on in the club. Yeah, well, of course they're not. I mean, when you get together with the boys and you're talking about, like, hooking up, if one guy's like, yeah, last night I was having sex with my wife, it's like, shut the...

Nobody cares. Yeah, no. Nobody cares about having sex with your significant other. Give me a break, you know? That song is sexy. It is. Smith.

Compared to other Justin Bieber songs that are sexy. That song today is better than Romantic. It's not sexy. You're not putting that song on if you're a fucking grandma. That song is better than anything he had on his last album. Easily. No, that's not true.

Intentions is better. No, I disagree. And this is coming from somebody who obviously he could put out the worst song of all time and i'm gonna i'm going to say it's good but i did and i understand like male justin bieber fans versus female justin bieber fans are going to say something different but like i did the group chat with ria and fran they're obsessed with it they said the exact same thing i'm saying all of my all of my girlfriends, Sophie, Julia text me at like 1205. And it was like, yo, this is like so sexy.

I'm telling you girls love it. Yeah, that's fine. But it's not, it's not like, it's not sexy. It's not the term. It's not romantic.

It's not sexy. It's romantic. I feel like romance can be sexy depending on who the person is and who you're having sex with. One, two, it's not sexy like him in the music video that he did for Drake. I agree with that. But this song

is objectively... Can you make a song not about your wife, dude? She wasn't in the music video, which was another spoiler because she ruined the Drake music video. The lyrics are...

Songs like this or songs like Sorry and What Do You Mean and all that kind of shit. I'm just reading the lyrics. He songs like this or songs like sorry. And what do you mean? All that kind of shit. I mean, I'm just reading the lyrics like he doesn't even he says nothing about God at all. It's like nothing. Literally having sex with your wife is holy. But he's saying if he does say on God. Well, that's that's fucked. I didn't read. No, not not the not the lyric.

That's not that I can't read. But I mean, it's all about having sex. Holy sex. Well, married sex. Which is just the worst. Let me tell you what. I got together with all my buddies last night, and we're sitting around this patio outside, and it's me. I guess I'm divorced.

I have one buddy who's not married or engaged. We've been dating her for, like, I don't know, 10 years at this point. And then everyone else is either married or engaged. We've been dating her for like, I don't know, 10 years at this point. And then everyone else is either married or engaged. And we are just like going around. It's just like retelling stories, but all it was, it was just so depressing where it was just like, remember that one time,

like 20 years ago when we used to be like fun and wild and like hook up with people and do things. No one wants to sit around being like, yeah, like, so, you know, me and my wife were,

uh, we had a date night last night. Yeah. Marriage sounds like it stinks, but I have a hard time believing that Justin and Hailey Bieber don't have hot sex just because they're both so hot. Yeah, I hear what you mean. But I bet you they have. They're still pretty newly married.

Exceedingly different sex than they probably and Justin did like two, three, four, five years ago. They used to date like a few years ago, too. But you know what I mean? Like when Justin was, you know, find somebody that can do it all, Kevin. Amen. You know, that's the only way to. Find somebody that can throw down. Pat, what did you think of this KFC radio

cat, the dude who called in? Have you been keeping up with that? Which guy is this? He called in. Oh, this is good, Pat. He was dating this girl. First girl he ever, no matter when she was 14. Oh, this is the guy, the gay guy. Came out with two months to go in the engagement, came out, and they

said, like, fuck it, we're still gonna get married. Then had a kid together, and they did it the old-fashioned way. We were like, did you do, like, artificial insemination? He was like, now we just... I thought they got married post... I thought he came out post-marriage. No. It was, like, right before the wedding. They still got married after he said, hey, I'm gay?

No, I thought it was right before they had the kid that he came out. Yeah, I thought he came out. Wasn't it two years ago? I thought he said like two or three years ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think it happened right before their marriage, before their wedding. That's wild. Yeah.

That's insane. And I feel like they're like super happy. They're like, and I think it's, I mean, I've been talking about it over and over again. I don't want, I don't want to be the death again, but like they have just kind of said like,

fuck the traditional form of monogamy relationships. Fuck like sexuality norms. Fuck family. All of it. We're just going to do it our way. The only thing that does scare me is he's like, I hope that we're together forever. But like if, if she falls in love with like another guy then we'll cross that bridge and i'm like

they are not together yeah like that's right dude you know uh but it sounds like they're the type that would just like talk through it and be like okay well you're gonna move in with him and like me and the kid will live next door or whatever um but Pat also dropped another interesting tidbit on me, Jared. I can talk openly about all this, just minus not mentioning names. So Pat is seeing someone and he

has, he engaged in a threesome with a That would be breaking news if Pat was saying, I have a girlfriend. So the guy he's seeing has engaged in a threesome with a celebrity and his partner. How do you think you'd handle that? I'm trying to think of what the equivalent would be. So he's like Eskimo brothers with a celebrity, but it was like him and his husband had a threesome with Pat's boyfriend. So if you were dating a chick and you found out that she had a threesome

with like mayor and his girlfriend before you were dating before. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I don't. I've been Eskimo brothers with like half the fucking league. I feel like you fuck around with some of these sagas girls. You're going to catch a situationkimo situation with everybody in Boston. Yeah, I mean, like, you live in Boston long enough, you're going to be Eskimo brothers with, like, a bunch of Major League Baseball players.

Mostly, like, Bruins. I feel like Bruins fuck everybody. They get around. They're like North End girls. That line that Sagan dropped is one of my favorite lines ever. During his, like, cup week in partying afterwards, apparently his line was like, he would go up to girls and be like I had sex with 34 girls this week, do you want to be

number 35? And they were like, yes, which is just fucking incredible But you would be Did this bother you at all, Pat? This came out It was like late night and we were having a great night talking and we were up

drinking and it was late and it all kind of came out. It didn't bother me at all. No, it would have bothered me if like he lied about it. Right. And was like, well, we just like kind of hooked up.

Right. So he was like, he was very honest and very explicit. And so I appreciate it. I was like, fuck yeah. I mean, you know,

it's, it's like anything else when you find out about previous celebrity is like, it's like, well, yeah, that matters to her. And she is like, hey, like I got fucking double teamed by McLovin and Seth Rogen. I'd be like, oh, all right. Well, but if it's like I had a reason with John Mayer, you'd be you wouldn't like McLovin and Seth Rogen. I think I'd be like, well, was it funny?

Talk to me about it i don't know i want to hear details that was my thing i was like give me oh every explicit detail i'm very like uh when i'm first like hooking up with you i would i find that or like when we're first talking i think it's kind of hot where it's like tell me all like you're crazy shit like you were stuck at this and doing that but then like if i were to like fall for you and then be in a relationship with you i think i'd be like i really wish i didn't know that now i'm like not a jealous person until i am and then i kind of get like pretty jealous and like insecure about it because and i guess it also matters if it was like if she was like this dude piped me out like it was the best sex of my life and then all of a sudden we

end up up dating together and like being like for real together and i just have to think about that john mayer like blew your back out you know yeah i don't care i mean like you i i don't know that i have but if i dated a girl that was like yeah i've gotten double teamed a bunch of times i'd be like all right well like was it college yeah i was in college all right yeah whatever but i think i don't want to know i mean it would definitely i definitely would the double team is yeah whatever but i think i don't want to know i mean it would definitely i definitely would the double team is a different story i think that's for sure yeah when you when your girl is just like yeah i think it's just mostly you don't want to have

somebody you don't want to have someone one up on you like right if you're a public figure and it's like all right so kevin is now dating this girl and he proposed but she got double teamed by two dudes like now those two dudes go around be like hey we double team kevin's fiance it's like but it's way sluttier when it's two when it's two guys double teaming a girl there's a double standard i do feel like and maybe this is ignorant but i feel like is something like a threesome or like crazier sex stuff just is more common with gay guys and straight people. You know what bugged me more than the sex though was that he recently liked one of his

pictures on Instagram. You're still just a little fucking diva. Get the fuck... I was like, post a picture of us now. That is... If a girl just told me that she had a threesome with anybody and a celebrity, and then after that liked the photo, I think I'd be like, come on now. Come on. I'm being cool about this. I or, and a celebrity. And then after that, like the photo,

I think I'd be like, come on now, come on. I'm being cool about this. I'm not making a stink. You don't need to rub it in. Now you're just running up to score. And he's way out of the celebrities league too.

Really? Yeah. I think that matters too. You know who it is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well,

I just don't know. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, to me, I feel like, I feel like it goes, like if it was John Mayer, I wouldn't, you know, the common, like the common joke is kind of like, fuck yeah, I feel like. I feel like it goes like it was John Mayer.

I wouldn't you know, the common like the common joke is like, fuck you, that's awesome. I don't think I would be thrilled, but I would be like there are certain it's almost like a hall pass. I understand a certain scenario like, yeah, you're going to do this with John Mayer. Then I think if it becomes like a normal celebrity, I think I get a little more like, oh, fuck. Yeah. And if it's just a normal dude, then I got like 3,000 Instagram followers and he looks like if he didn't play baseball, he'd be working at Stop and Shop and it's like, come on. Yeah. Would you rather

it be like I, you know, got double teamed by like regular ass guys or celebrities? Celebrities. Yeah, right. Because at least like there's a defense where it's like, oh, you had to do it. We're out at the bar and like Ben Affleck and Matt Damon were like, hey, you want to come back to our apartment and get fucked by us? It's like oh you had to do it at the bar and like ben affleck and matt damon were like hey you want to come back to our apartment get fucked by listen i would i would say yes to those two guys but if it's just like you hooked up with brad and chad from the fucking fraternity that night

because you just wanted to be a hoe then then that's gonna stick in my brain for you know a little while longer yeah but i think like once you get to like our age and you live in like a major city like boston and new york like you just have to and you're still single like we're in our early to mid 30s if you want to date an attractive girl you have to be okay with the fact that she's probably fucked someone she's attractive and she yeah right right it's like she has probably had sex with uh a pro athlete or some sort of like d-list celebrity which is funny too because if you think like some guys would maybe be clowning you being like, you know, oh shit, like, you know, you're Jared's girl, fuck John Mayer. And it's like, yeah, man, you hear that your girl fucked like the stop and shop manager

because she can't pull guys like that. And my girl can in a weird way. It's like a badge of honor. Eskimo brothers with John Mayer. It's like, yeah, John Mayer thought that my girlfriend was hot enough to take home. So I saw a tweet the other day that said this girl was going out to get drinks with my Eskimo sisters

she said something like they're the best friends you can have and I thought about whether or not guys would be more inclined to be cool with dudes who had hooked up if you're in a relationship and you find out a girl that one of your buddies banged your girl

would you be able to like go get drinks and hang out with him easier than girls who share a guy is there any difference between that um depends how close you are right yeah but just in general speaking like stereotypically about the sexes,

I feel like girls could either be more catty or they would just like to gossip and it becomes a fun thing. We have common ground and they probably bash you. They're probably like, oh my God, you didn't even call me. Oh, you didn't call me either.

Whereas guys could either be like, yo, that's awesome, whatever. Or I think deep down, guys actually could sometimes be the more insecure and like petty. I mean, I'm like the other end of the spectrum, kind of like there is this girl, I don't know, like 2010 or 11, like me and my buddy were both hooking up with her, like at the same time. I should hook up with me one night, him the next night, the me the next night or whatever. You guys know it was happening. Yeah, we knew.

And he was like joking about it. He's like, ah, that's so funny. Like who's going to be on Wednesday? Is it going to be me or you? And then we went to like some like fire, like outside, like type of like drinking type thing. And like me and him were there and she was there and we were like, ah, who's, who's going to get her tonight? And then he was like, surprise, we're dating.

And I was like, oh shit. And he was like, yeah, like we started dating like last week and i was like i banged her like two weeks ago and then now they're married and have like a kid so it's like i for i don't i honestly don't think he would care but for like my comfortability like i can't be around them no that's that's a lot that's a lot to handle. It's one of those things. If I like hooked up with your wife, like and you know that like I and we all obviously know that I don't want to be around. No, because it's one of those things you're talking.

But in your you know, you're talking about the election or something. But in the back of your head, you're like, I fucked you. I fucked you. I fucked you. Like, you know what I mean? It's just we all know what everyone's thinking here. So let's not let's either just talk about it or not talk at all, because this is the phoniest conversation I've ever had.

Right. Like, I know what you're feeling and you're not saying it. And like, I don't want you to feel that way. So I'll just I'll go home. I'll go eat some ice cream sandwiches. I will go eat. Let's get to a couple of calls real quick here. We got a couple of minutes left.

Nate from Little Rock's been waiting for a long time. What's up, Nate? What's up, Kevin? How you doing? I'm doing well, man. How about you? Pretty good, pretty good. Hey, what is going on with the slander with KFC on the One Minute Man on the Instagram page?

I mean, I know that you are no stranger to hate on the Internet, but goddamn. Yeah, I do say, I do tell people. I know. Listen, it hurts me, me too I'm not gonna lie I've seen more hate than I would imagine I mean maybe anybody you think I'm the most hated person Dave is up there just because of his

you know status but I feel like I've seen more hate than maybe anybody even on the whole goddamn internet and even still the one minute man rollercoaster has been the most like intense of my career. And I'm being such a petty asshole about it because I mentioned the other day, I won over the crowd like fucking Gladiator.

I finally won them over because I did four videos in a row where you can't – there was no other opinion to be had. It was 9-11. It was Skip Bayless being an asshole about depression. It was Carole Baskin being a murderer. And it was like one other one where everyone agreed with me and then all of a sudden they like me which i hate it's my biggest pet peeve in the world now all of a sudden you just you because you agree like the videos were never bad because they just might have yeah yeah and then and then thanks for the call man and then they now like the same guy who literally was like

you should be fired and never see your kids again. We're like, yo, man, you're all right. You're pretty cool. And then I did a Kanye one where I bash Kanye because I don't like him. And they're right back to hating me. And I almost as much as I, of course, I would love everyone to just love me and it would be positive feedback. I think I'm more comfortable when I'm being hated on. At least I understood it.

Once they started to like me. Yeah, well, that is what's funny, too, is like no matter what the topic is, the top comment is about me. I'm like it's never about the subject matter. It's just about whether or not you like me or you hate me. But I do – my biggest pet peeve in the world is like I can make – I make fun of everybody and everything. And then all of a sudden I make one joke that offends you. So now all of a sudden I'm the asshole. You don't get to pick and choose. So all of a sudden you agree with my topic and you like me. Fuck off. You either like me or hate me. You can't you can't blow in the wind. So no one's just scrolling on by. Everyone's like, oh, do I

agree with this asshole today or am I going to be fucking enraged with what he said? No one's just like, I can't even watch this. And I'll always take that. Today's is about the Fast Times at Ridgemont High table read, which was fucking awesome. And I will say this. I can already tell I'm going to be an annoying asshole about this. If you're new to the Shia LaBeouf bandwagon, I'm going to complain about it. Because I've been on Shia's for a long time. And now everyone's going to be like, you know what? He's actually pretty funny and cool.

Fuck you if you're Johnny come lately. You can have MGK, Jared. I got Shia. Shia's my guy. Done deal. I'll take that trade every day. All right. Chicago's up next.

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