KFC Radio - CCK Podcast: Owen Sixteen

Episode Date: May 4, 2020

The Rocket is due for a win after losing 16 straight Rock Paper, Scissors matches. Lil Dicky called his shot on Mailtime back in 2015. Will Chill With Chels get a job at Barstool? When will HQ open back up? Mets fans finally have a chance to destroy the Wilpons.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/kfcr

Hey, KFC Radio listeners, you can find every episode of KFC Radio on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Kevin, Kevin. Oh. Kevin. You're just ridiculously stupid. Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back. Welcome, welcome, welcome.

Is this Kevin? Welcome back. Oh, yeah, man, how you doing? You good? I know you like that. I know you like that. Come on, you've been back. Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome.

I see the girls in the club, they're getting wild. Let the dogs out on a Friday. Time to get loose. It's a dreary weekend here in New York City. I feel like the sun hasn't been shining for like a month straight. Quarantine sucks. The world sucks. But it's a Friday, and I want to get canine with it.

It's me and Casey Smith alongside the 0 16 wonder Jared the rocket Carabas I'm going to call you Carabas until you win 2 and 20 2 and 20 there's a spin zone for you even though it's maybe worse uh you know it's it's knock knock knock knock Jared

who's there Owen Owen 16. You suck, dude. You lost to a goddamn inanimate fucking creature. You lost to a non-human creature. Well, here's the thing, and I got to get out in front of this. I think he cheated. Stealing signs?

Stealing signals? I mean, the guy's not human. Like, what do you want me to do against someone who's not human? How did he cheat? Just using his, like, monster brain? Yeah, I mean, like, I usually play against major league players, and they're human, and they have human brains. Human error.

He's a monster. Right now, I've had on the background today as I work, Ancient Aliens is on the TV. There's a marathon going on the History Channel. 17 straight hours. I believe it was actually 24 straight hours. But I tuned in at 10 a.m. It goes until 3 a.m. tonight.

Ancient Aliens has just been in the background seeping into my brain. And you know the thought on that is that there are aliens amongst us and that they've been here for forever. And so are you trying to tell me that Wally might be an extraterrestrial being with a higher power? They say humans only can use 10% of their brain. Are you telling me that Wally could maybe access upwards of, I don't know, 20%, 30%, 50%, 90% of his brains? Yeah, I can't say for sure. I haven't studied his brain, but I feel like for the most part, it's, you know, he's not a human. Like, that's just a fact. Like, we're not dealing with, like, opinions here where it's like, all right, Wally might have the same brain as someone like, I don't. But like, yeah, he's a monster. Well, let me tell you why people forget that you beat him.

Because it happened like two and a half months ago. That's the problem, Rocket. You're on a 16-game losing streak. People don't remember your one win when you've lost 16 in a row. I have two wins. But yeah, I mean, like today, today I'm going against back-to-back hit champ Whit Merrifield. And this is when the win streak starts.

By the way, as just a quick side note, maybe the most, like, not, like, what's the word here? Has a back-to-back hit champ ever got less credit than that dude? No, and I think it's, I mean, I don't know why either. Like, obviously, like, the market in Kansas City is one thing, but, like, he was a late bloomer, but, like, hell of a fucking ball player. You know? Right. What kind of field is fucking unbelievable?

What kind of cash is he making? Because it's probably not enough. I mean, that dude is criminally underrated. It's not. He doesn't make a lot. And I think, like, that's what sucks with him is, like, this is the first year that he would have made, like, real money. Like, I think he was supposed to make, like, this is the first year that he would have made like real money. Like I think he was supposed to make like 5 million this year. So like,

if they don't play, like he's getting robbed of like his first year of making real money. We got plenty to talk about with baseball. I want to talk about the scumbags that are the Wilpons. I want to talk about a, a, a little, a little nug as Jay Hay would say that I learned yesterday that blows my

mind. But first back to you and your rock, paper, scissors, futility. I mean, I mean, Casey, what do we do

here? We're on the radio. It's not like I'm just getting smoked. Jared, Jared, Jared, that doesn't matter. Nobody cares. I think it matters. Hey, Jared, when I sit around and I complain about, when I complain about how the Mets led the World Series for 89% of the innings played

and that they held a lead after the seventh inning for every single game played, does anybody care? No. We got steamrolled in their mind. Everyone just says that the Mets got steamrolled by the Royals. That's it. Well, you often... It's what's in the win column and the loss column. That's all that matters.

And there's just a bunch of L's, Rocket. And I'm not trying to pile on. It's because I care about you. I want to see you succeed. You think I want to be on the radio with the 0 and 16 man? No. I want people to be tuning in to hear about the wonder that is the 16 and 0 Rocket. Right. Well, that's coming 16-0 rocket. Right.

Well, that's coming. That's coming, and it starts today. I have a question for you, Kevin. Would you rather be – I almost kind of feel like going 0-16 is more impressive than winning two. Because it's like in the NFL, if you go 0 and 16 like that's a real accomplishment like you have to suck so badly that you can't even accidentally win if you go 1 and 15 or 2 and 14 it's like you it's not even fun it's like oh my god like you're so bad that you just accidentally tweaked it out going 0 and 16 is more impressive in my opinion yeah i think it's actually very akin to a uh

i'm gonna help you out here rocket i remember i want to say it was uh mike maroff is that his name that the guy for the tigers many years ago uh doesn't ring you know i'm talking about there was a pitcher for the tigers who lost 20 games which was or it was on the way to lose 20 i don't know if he ever actually lost 20 games, which was, or it was on the way to lose 20. I don't know if he ever actually lost 20 and everybody was saying in a weird way, it was almost a testament to how good of a pitcher he was because he had the right stuff. He was, he was for sure struggling, but he was a young pitcher and he had good stuff.

And, you know, a few things didn't break his way, had a streak of like several bad starts, but the team stuck with him because they were like, no, this kid's good. Most guys, you know, if you don't have the talent and you've lost 10 in a row, you get set down, you get cut. People don't give a fuck about you. But this guy they had faith in and they knew that he was going to be good in the future. So they wanted to see they wanted to they wanted to watch him like work it out. They wanted to see him get through this.

And I think that might that might be a little spin zone here for you, that it's a testament to how much people still want to do your show and be on Starting 9 and Section 10, and that they enjoy your company, because I think a lot of other people would just say, I'm not doing this fucking rock, paper, scissors game with this guy who's a fucking sack of potatoes. I'm just playing against a goddamn tree stump here.

So I think maybe the fact that you're so bad yet, still putting these up on the board. And I'll also say that, you know, when I was a couple of seasons ago now, I guess I was not seeking out a, a Baltimore Orioles game for any reason. I would not give a fuck about any Chris Davis at-bats.

And yet when he was 0-89 or whatever, there I was, like, popping on the MLB network, making sure I didn't miss a single one. So I would maybe say, if you were 16-0, I think a lot of people would be tuning in hoping to see your demise because all we all know a lot of people a lot of people don't like the rocket a lot of people hate hate the the the the confidence that that overflows out of the rocket's eyeballs and so yes they'd be tuning in to watch you lose now not maybe not quite the same but i think there are certainly the haters tuning in to see if they

can go oh and 17 and then there's the people who are saying my boy's gonna get that dub this could be the first one and i'm gonna be there for history like we said with the most madness dreams i think that going i don't know if i'm gonna go as far as you did casey and say that i'm impressed by the own 16 but i will say it's much better it's hard to just be never win it's it's much better to be oh and 16 than to be like, you know, wait, Nate,

whatever. You're just stuck in the middle because I think people are going to be interested. Yeah. You're memorable. Like if you win one or two, just completely by accident, then it's kind of like apathetic,

like, all right, whatever, who cares? Like if you go in 16 or 16 at Oh, you're either completely perfect in the win column or completely perfect in the loss column and that is an interesting storyline so it's a good spin zone for you jared perfect i would agree yeah are you are you seeing what's what

are the views like are they trending up they trending down are people uh is is this loss streak just as as valuable for you? Yeah. I mean, like every video is doing like at least a hundred K views on Twitter. Um, yeah, I mean like it's, it's pretty steady. Like the, the audience is captivated. Uh, the, the fan base is loyal. They're, they're waiting to see that dub and, and it's coming.

I already know that it's coming and it's just a matter of when. And I think that's today. And you think that you're going to be the back-to-back hit champ? Yeah. I mean, like, who's to say? Like, every dog has a day, Kevin. And I feel like today is my day. It's going to be.

There's going to be a parade in the streets. Trust me. 7 p.m. is when they're having it. And I can't wait. Well, I mean, here's the thing yeah i feel like you called your shot uh you know when you were oh and 14 you called it when you're oh and 15 at some point you're are you're the boy called crying wolf oh those are those are joke calls but like i know it's the day and uh i'm excited you're max kellerman right now you're saying Tom Brady is going to fall off a cliff every single year and

eventually he's going to be right, but no one's listening to him anymore. Yeah. Broken clock. Here we go. I mean, let me say this. When is this? Is it tonight? It's every day at 3 p.m.

So when, when will you air like on the weekend as well? Or today? So today at 3 p.m. So when will you air? Like on the weekend as well? Or today? No. Wait a minute. So you already know you won today? I mean, I don't know the results. Oh, come on!

Kevin, he puts the video out at 3. No, he puts the video out at 3. Wait, are you doing that? Is that what's happening right now? Yes. What? He just outed himself by saying it happens at 3. He just outed himself because I know that the video comes out at 3.

But he did this before. He did this with Wally, though. He did it with Wally. He was calling a shot, and then he lost. It's always come out at three. But have you filmed it yet? You know that the video you're putting out at three today has you winning, so you're calling your shot because you know you're winning.

I mean, I said I was going to win against everybody, and I lost. Well, that is true, so that's what's fucking with me. No, but he said this with Wally, and then Wally was a loss, so I can't tell if he's just being a showman. But he didn't say it the day that it was coming out. No, but he did. He said this with Wally and then Wally was a loss. So I can't tell if he's just being a showman. But he didn't say it the day that it was coming out. No, he did. He was saying this yesterday, right? Yeah. So here's the thing.

No, yesterday we were talking about him losing to Wally. I said I don't know what's worse, losing to a human or not. No, but I don't think it happened yet. Wally came out right after it. Yeah, because we were talking about whether or not he can throw scissors. We weren't, we weren't, he didn't say he

had lost. So what's going on now is Rocket has gone full-blown WWF as is, we know, in his blood because, you know, wrestlers will stand there and they'll cut a promo talking about how they're going to win when they already know the script and they know they're going to lose so he's just doing it for the people he's

just doing it for the entertainment value and now we don't know i don't know what's it's just kayfabe we don't know what's real what's not you son of a bitch and this is why the rocket always in fairness kevin um like wrestlers when they cut their promos they like say say it's like the raw before wrestlemania and i'm cutting a promo on my opponent I still don't know if I'm going to win or not They usually tell you Right before you go through the curtain And they have three different scripts

Where That could happen, this guy could win So what are you doing to me right now then? What are you doing to me right now then? Do you know or not? He knows the video That's coming out at 3. He's winning, Kevin. I am going to be furious if I just wasted 13 minutes of our show talking about this.

When you're about to put out a video, you already know the outcome from, you son of a bitch. Of course you already know the outcome. How would I not know the outcome? I was there. I played in the game, Kevin. Yeah. I just thought that you would do these at 3 and you put it out at 4 or something like that. I didn't know you had these.

You are a son of a bitch. No, they come out the second that we're done with radio. They come out at 3 p.m. every day. I can't possibly be playing rock, paper, scissors and giving hot takes at the same time. I know that obviously that would be very impressive and you know that I could probably do that, but I don't do that.

I absolutely hate your guts. All he had to do, Kevin, was say he was playing later tonight. He doesn't care that he outed himself, but he outed himself by saying he knows at 3 o'clock that he's going to win. So congratulations to Rocket. I don't think I outed myself

because they've never come out at a different time slot. And also, I said I was going to win against Wall-E. Guess what? I didn't. Well, right. But Kevin was thinking that you hadn't played the game yet. So you could have said you hadn't played yet, and you were calling your shot.

Let me say this. If you're an idiot, if you're a dumb fucking donkey, if you win this one today and you put on this whole dog and pony show with a goddamn pre-recorded episode, you're a dummy. You're an asshole. I mean, they're not live. They're very clearly not live. They're chopped up and edited.

There's graphics. I think you're the dummy. I think you're the dummy. I think you're the dummy. You're the bigger dummy. No, I think you're the dummy. I think you're the dummy. I think you're the dummy. You're the bigger dummy. No, I think you are. You're an idiot. I'm going to say I think that you guys are both dummies.

You're both arguing a completely different point. You know what I think, Casey? I think it's a dog day, and me and my dog will not stand for any slander from a kitty cat here on a Friday. That's fine. That's really fine. It's really... That's why... Hey, Casey.

Oh! I knew that if I came out against the team, you guys would galvanize together against me, and you two would be on the same side again. You see what I just did there? Oh, okay. Yeah. Big brain over here trying to rally

us galvanize galvanize gal galgal no my goodness now order is restored you guys are both against me and here we go let's have a friday she fell on that one she fell on that sword for us. Hey, look at me. What a team player. What a hero. What a team player. 833-85-STOOL is the phone number if you want to call in. That's 833-857-8665. We can have a little dog day here on a Friday. I just texted the boys at the studio because as we sit here talking about

calling our shots, I want to talk about what Lil Dicky has done. And I don't know if we could play a clip from my Twitter or not, if that's possible. But somebody dug up, I think Chuck dug up my interview with Lil Dicky back in 2015 on Mail Time. I went over to Irving Plaza. He was on his professional rapper tour and we did an interview. And that was that was the first time I had talked to Lil Dickie. And first time I had really I had never even heard Lil Dickie talk openly like I had listened to any of his other interviews or anything. And it was the first time I learned that Lil Dickie was like a deep, deep dude. Like I had only known him as like this funny yet awesome rapper. And I thought of him kind of just like one of us, just like, you know, almost like a blogger, just like a clown.

And then I spoke to him and I got this like deep, crazy, introspective thinker who I believe in that interview, he said like his only goal in life, like his main goal and only focus was to find his soulmate. I had no idea we were going to be talking about romance and love and all this shit. But in that interview, I started off asking him about how he perceives himself. Because he was a rapper, but it's kind of funny rap. And he wasn't taking it seriously. But at the same time, he's one of the best lyricists I had ever heard. he had this bit um this is a piece of the interview i don't know guys can we play a clip or no cool okay so if you go uh to my my twitter i think it's the last uh my last tweet

there um i quote tweeted it play that and i because i mean i i can't imagine anything more satisfying than calling your shot the way he did and if you don't know he put out his show on netflix uh not on netflix on fx called dave and it's fucking hysterical and it's absolutely crushing as far as like our demo and the streaming, like the DVR after numbers and now streaming on Hulu. It did something like comical numbers. It was like up 2,700% from the other shows they aired in that time slot where like the Hulu binge was like through the fucking roof.

I think he's getting like millions of viewers it's like really really big numbers really successful show and this was him in 2015 uh talking about how he views himself yeah well dickie rapper comedian writer what do you like view yourself as like right now you're about to take the stage right professional rapper tour irving plaza are you going out there like i'm trying to make people what do you like view yourself as like right now you're about to take the stage right professional rapper tour herbing plaza are you going out there like i'm trying to make people laugh tonight or i'm trying to like rock the crowd i'm trying to do both i'm trying to do both tonight always when i'm like you know and yeah i'm trying to do both in a rap concert for sure right i would say right

now i view myself as a rapper but i think like my end goal is to be viewed as a comedian and writer as well. I think my honest opinion is I am a writer first and foremost. I've chosen to use rap as my initial vehicle to express myself. Now, it makes sense, obviously. Why

not just say you're a rapper right now? What do you think? Did you start writing? Yeah, I'm starting I have more to offer than just rap. Did you start writing? Yeah, I started. And it became more of a rap thing? No. I guess throughout my life, my friends have always seemed to laugh at my jokes. Right.

And I always knew everywhere I went that everybody continued to laugh at my jokes. This motherfucker's funny. Yeah. Everybody's laughing. I just tell you, I went class clown in high school. I was just always the funny guy. Right. And I wasn't really that satisfied being just the funny friend Everybody's laughing. I just had, you know, I went to class clown in high school. Like, I was just always, like, the funny guy. Right. And I wasn't really that satisfied

being just the funny friend of everybody's. I don't think that, like, Seth Rogen or Jonah Hill started out as anything more than everybody's funniest friend. Right. And so with that in mind, I thought, how can I become

one of those types of guys? Got it. And then it was like, I don't know that I have any connections in the film industry or, like, the, you know, the screenwriting industry. I can write a screenplay

have no one to hand it to i love rap music i can rap why not use this there's very little competition in that space right you know you can stand out immediately and like you're almost doing like two things at once you're definitely doing two things at once so it's like you get double the credit to some extent right so that's why i started doing it and it wasn't really to become a rapper it was to become a comedic figure just Got it. Just a way to get your rating out there. And then start doing my own thing, like make my own TV show. But along the way, I fell in love with rapping and got better and better at it to where I think I'm a legitimate rapper and I love it. How fucking awesome is that?

It's so awesome. Not only just from a success point of view. You called your shot. And it wasn't just like a success point of view, like you called your shot and it wasn't just like a, I mean, that's, that's hard. That's, that's a convoluted process to be like, all right, I'm gonna start out as like a YouTube rapper and I'm going to like then become like a real rapper and then eventually like make some connections in the music game that can maybe translate to like this agency who has TV reps and get them my my tv script

and become like a tv star i mean that's that's a hard process but then also to have the the element of like well what what my like what my fake trojan horse uh avenue was oh by the way, I love that. And I'm fucking awesome at that too. Like it's overflowing with success. It wasn't like he was, you know, you see so many times like a Lindsay Lohan, who's an actress. And then she's like, Oh, because I have this success, people will like my music. And then she puts out some songs and they're like, okay, fine, whatever. I'm going to go back to acting. Like He knew that he was so good at all of those things, and he picked one to just kind of put his foot in the door, and he knew that he could be successful at all of them.

He didn't use his success to try to be successful at other things. That's incredible. And even if you do, it's one thing, I think, the way you go in the opposite direction, because if you're an actor or a hot chick in general, and you get some auto-tune and a good beat, and you make a sexy video, you probably could succeed. You're not going to win Grammys, but you're going to... I think it's much easier to go that direction.

Whereas Lil Dicky was like, hey, yeah, listen. It gets in the boardroom, and it's like, I know that, you know, you like you've heard my raps. You know, you probably see me on the Internet. It's pretty funny. But also I have like this polished 10, 10 episode TV season ready to go that has like multiple characters and tons of storylines. And like that is going that direction, I think, is much more difficult. And he just ended up doing all of it pretty fucking flawlessly. Like, again, the numbers I think on Dave are... It's not even more difficult.

Yeah, it's more, it's like wildly more impressive. Because like you said, like if you're already a successful person, your fan base is probably going to follow you and do, and support whatever else you do. Like that's just the way it is. But like he was... Right, but there's also you know i feel like we we could do that right like you we have a audience that have followed us from from written

word to video you know jared you you were talking about baseball analysis you have you know hundreds of thousands of people watching you get your ass kicked by fake uh mascots you know it's just the loyal audience will follow the way it is he knew all of those things beforehand that's what i'm like yes like and and but again to to in a world where i sit down to watch tv and i can watch a vince gilligan produced show i can watch anything that's that's produced by some of these like top top top skilled. And like I'm tuning into Lil Dicky. I'm watching Dave. That's a big, that's a huge, huge accomplishment.

Yeah, it's massive. And to know it, I mean, I feel like one of the things I really admire most about you, Jared, is the confidence that you always have. And whether some of it sometimes is, you know, like a WWF promo or how like some of it's probably true honesty. I feel like my, I'm always like, no one's going to like this. This is going to bomb like, Oh, it's not going to succeed. I don't have to grind this out to like know it and say it like five years ago and then just crush it is I am so envious of the people that could do that. Yeah. It's, it's not something that like comes along every day. I mean,

like you have to like the, the skill and the talent has to be there. Like there's plenty of people that call their shot that obviously never come close to delivering on their promises. But yeah, I mean, I feel like there's some degree of that in everyone that works at barstool like no i mean there are the people that like just basically got hired off the street but then there's a lot of people that were like grinding their dicks off for years and like there's a reason why they're doing it for years and it's because they believed in their ability to eventually make it well yeah i mean i guess you're probably right i can't speak for other people but like i

i know whenever i do anything i always fall back on i just didn't want to have a crappy day job and so to me everything else is icing on the cake and like if i eventually get this big payday that's you know something i never ever expected whereas you know, something I never, ever expected. Whereas, you know, we go back and we play those clips of Dave on the rundown being like, we are the company. We are the model. People want to be us. People are trying to figure out ways they could be more like us.

And me and Dan were like laughing. And I think me more so than Dan, not laughing in a sense of like, like, I don't believe in us, but just like, no way. It's not going to be us. Like, we're not going to be the, the famous ones. We're not going to be the ones that, you know, stand out. You know, my, my whole like mantra is that, you know, you're, you're normal and medium and average and mediocre and that's okay. And the people who, who know it and do it. Cause like you said, there's so many people, Jared, who, who like call their shot. So what, you know, how do you know when you're, when you're talking to the real deal versus just some jamoke, who's like, I'm made for Barstool dude. Like this one's for

me. Like I I'm going to crush it. It's like, no, you're fucking not. But when the one guy does and is, and you may have passed on the opportunity or whatever. I don't know. I think it's just so fascinating that like, there's such a razor thin margin of, of error for like that to come true. And that's a like crash and burn where you just end up looking like a joke.

Yeah. I mean, like there's, we get like those messages all the time. Like, Oh, I would crush that bar stool, but it's like for anyone that like asked for advice, like, well then go do it like go like where's the sample work i mean

that like the sample work goes a long way and obviously like this dude goes out there and like actually does it instead of um like that's where the line gets drawn is like you can say that you can do it all day long but unless you do it then who the fuck knows you know what i think i've decided and this sounds probably overly harsh because i understand where they're coming from but i think from now on if you're even sending me the message or the email saying like what do i do to get my foot in the door i get the i understand the sentiment it's just like i you know it's it's a very daunting task like where do i even begin but, I think you've already lost.

Like the fucking the answer is like, do it. Fucking show me like have write a script like little Dickie probably did, you know, put out that guy just sat down and was like, all right, I'm going to become a rapper first because there's probably, you know, I'm going to be, I'm going to stand out because I'm a, I'm an average white Jewish guy with a curly fro who no one's ever seen rap before look like that. So there's my, you know, my, my way in the door. And then I'm going to, you know, it's like, and that's not to say you didn't have any help or any conversations along the way, but it's like, what do you mean? How, how do I get my foot in the door? Write something funny, record a good podcast, Make a funny video. Do an impression like Joey Molinaro. I feel like that question is almost like, well, you've already lost, dude.

If you can't even start, you know what we do. You've seen the project. You've seen the content. Make it. If you're paying attention to Barstool, you know that there's not a cookie cutter answer of how do I get my foot in the door? Literally every single person has a completely different path. Like you just said with Joey, like Joey is like putting out tons of content right now because he did an impersonation of Nick Saban in like November that went viral. Like I was on TV. You were writing blogs jared was on tv and writing about the red socks like there's not one answer so why even ask i mean i understand like you said you understand

the sentiment and the advice like if you're paying attention to barstool you know you just need to be doing something that's a little bit different than what somebody else is already doing there and then you're gonna get in that girl chelsea paints on fucking periscope but she's probably gonna end up getting a job here there is no she paid there's no answer barstool so yeah like there it is like yeah there's no answer to your question but then it's also like that's that's a that's kind of like makes it harder but it also makes it easier it's like don't don't fucking ask me that like or the people i love people who are like i can blog i'm like all right send me your blog it's like well i i mean i don't i don't do it so wow okay yeah then you can't tell me that you're good at blog. It's like, well, I mean, I don't. I don't do it. So, wow. Okay. Then you don't blog.

Then you can't tell me that you're good at blogging. It's like trying to, if you're trying to get a job at like the MLB network and you don't like baseball, then it's like, okay, well, what's the fucking point here? But if you look at Barstool and you're like, I like literally anything on the planet that could potentially entertain and potentially make sponsorship dollars for this company, just do it. It doesn't, I mean, we can, we'll literally talk about somebody that's painting. Like she gets a job there. It makes sense. Like no one else live streams themselves painting sold. All right, fine. She's the one that does that now. Yeah. It sounds, it's like, it's not helpful when it's broad, general advice,

but it's also kind of the case. Let's take a couple of quick calls before we go to our first break. We got Nate from New Hampshire. What's up, Nate? Hello. Let's take a couple quick calls before we go to our first break. We got Nate from New Hampshire. What's up, Nate? Hello? What's up, Nate Dowg? How we doing? How we doing? Good.

What's going on, man? Hey. So I'm just working. I'm delivering for Amazon because I lost my regular job. I was doing construction and coaching some hockey. I've just been crushing old stuff. And I just heard that Vanessa Hudgens stuff that you were talking about. From the quarantine?

Yeah, when she's saying, you know, basically, Yvonne Drago, if he dies, he dies. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was something. And then she comes back with the, it's out of context. Is that not the worst, most played out bullshit? That was a tough one. That out of context is up there with like, I've been hacked.

Like that was one of the worst celebrity gaps. And then subsequent apologies I've ever heard. She's like, guys, that was taken out of context. Just stay safe. Like it was completely in the right context. How can you say it's out of context? Yeah, that was a classic one for sure. I'm surprised she kind of like skated on that.

Like, I remember being like, well, that's it for her. And I think that, you know, nothing really counts during quarantine. So I feel like she's kind of getting away with it. Yeah, that's like UFOs getting swept under the rug. There's just too much right now. Kevin, you believe in aliens and shit, right? So, like, if you're an alien right now, aren't you you believe in aliens and shit right so like if you're an alien right now aren't you just pissed that like the the government came out and said hey yeah we've got ufos we know

they're here and literally no one gives a shit right well you know what let's let's let's hit a break when we come back we'll start off with that because uh that yeah that did get a little brushed under the rug but i think there's kind of no one why it did. And I'll explain that when we come back here on CCK. It's May. The weather's turning. The sun is shining. Summer's almost here. Don't let anybody, don't forget that.

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I feel like April just flew by And now we're into another month of quarantine And I don't know what's what I feel like right now May rolls around You're usually starting to make your Memorial Day plans You start to get summer on the brain And I just feel like there now May rolls around. You're usually starting to make your Memorial Day plans. You start to get summer on the brain. And I just feel like there's not a person alive doing any of that right now. Right?

No, I feel like right now it's the opposite. It normally is. It's like you have getting back to work on the brain, which is not normally what's happening in May. But at the same time, it's like, well, like we have no idea what's going on. Like still like no one has a clue. Like you could tell me that we're going to be in here until December. I'm like, what? Like, we have no idea what's going on. Like, still, like, no one has a clue. Like, you could tell me that we're going to be in here until December. I'd be like, all right, well, buckle up. We can get out tomorrow.

Like, okay, I have no idea. I just, the one thing I can't stand right now are the people who are citing Sweden as like the new model. Sweden did not do like social distance. Well, they didn't do lockdown. They didn't do quarantine. Sweden kept everything open, but basically like banked on all their people not being assholes. And so their death rate is about the same.

But at the same time, they didn't like shut everything down. And so people are saying, why couldn't we do that? First things first uh sweden is like the size of like brooklyn and queens put together so a country of 400 fucking million people doesn't really translate to goddamn sweden where you're probably living in like tiny villages and you wear wooden shoes okay it's just not the same and i think that they're probably a country of like nice people who actually like follow rules where america is made of goddamn assholes so i i don't i can't imagine people who think that

sweden translates to america but um i also can't imagine like if you kept everything open right now but people followed social distancing i feel like there would still be like massive financial problems like maybe you you know if you're a bartender like maybe there would still be like massive financial problems. Like maybe you, you know, if you're a bartender, like maybe you would still make a few tips here and there, but if people are like, okay, we'll leave, we'll leave businesses open, but you know, you still really should stay home as much as you can. I feel like you would still run into issues. I don't think it would just be like all gravy. So I mean, I don't think anybody right now is like thriving. So to point to

any other examples of how this person did or that person did it, I don't think, uh, you a have all the information and B can make like the same type of comparisons. Um, but yeah, it's, isn't, isn't New York getting better though? Yeah. I mean, that's, well, this is the thing too, though people who are either have been on the whole, like, the whole like coronavirus is a hoax or if they're not that extreme and they're saying like like it's not that bad. It's it's because we're doing this. That's like it's working. This quarantine and the social distancing is why it's getting better and why it's not that bad. People who are like, look, there's not that bad people who are like look there's not

that many deaths it's like yeah we've been inside for a month so that's why and almost two months two months yeah so like um it's getting better but i also i i feel like they should have and i guess there's no way to tell the future to know how it was going to play out but i think if someone like fauci or someone who's really trusted had early on laid out and said, listen, there's going to come a time where you say, look,

it's done. We did it. It's over or it's gotten better or Hey, it's, it's good enough to the point that we should start back up. And that's the point where you have to push through and do it a little bit more. I think people would have been like, like that makes a lot of logical sense to me.

That human nature as a collective, as soon as we think like, all right, this doesn't seem that bad anymore. Let's stop being silly. Like if someone had told me you're going to have that feeling around six or eight weeks in and like that's not the time to be fooled and to think that it's over. I think that it would have gone a long way because it only makes sense that as soon as you think the immediate threat is like not so bad, let's get back out there. And maybe that's right. I don't know the answer. But it also feels like this is maybe as soon as we start back up, it just that's it starts back up. And then what? Right. The problem is, is that like nobody actually knew that. So like Dr. Fauci wouldn't have been able to say that. And I feel like a lot of the arguments you're seeing with people who are just like, we're ready to open up everything again, is that because no one actually knew how

bad it was going to get either way. And they started throwing out numbers, which I'm not saying they should or shouldn't have done because I don't understand it. It's all above my head. But, you know, at one point we were talking about like millions and millions of Americans dying. And then that number changed and it had a lot to do with social distancing. But even once we got into quarantine, like the numbers just kept getting less and less. So people were like, so wait a minute. Why did you think that? But it didn't happen.

So had he said at week eight, you'll feel this way, like he would have had to know exactly where we would be in eight weeks and no one had a fucking clue we'd be here. Right. You're probably right, but I feel like had they, um, there's no, there's no precedent for this, so I can't blame them. Right. Um, but I think that there's probably pandemic, uh, like certain things that happened in a pandemic that you can bank on and, or you can say around eight weeks, you're going to think that you're good and in

reality that's it's not you know like i have to imagine this was somewhat uh you could foresee this somewhat like it's only human nature that eventually you're going to get fed up and think that you're all good but that's not like the disease doesn't think that way the disease is just waiting and it's it's lurking and it's going to be it's going to be bad if you go back out there. But maybe you're right. I mean, I guess this is so unprecedented in the modern world that there was no way to foresee that. But what I get worried about is if they need to do a round two of quarantine, I don't think people are going to do it. I feel like people are going to revolt.

Once they get out and get a taste of freedom, they ain't going back. It's like going back to jail. I ain't going back to jail, man. You're going to have to kill me before I go back to jail. You said this earlier this week, and you're absolutely correct when you said that, like, you feel like it's almost completely flipped, whereas, like, for a long time, like, once the initial wave of people doubting it, like, ended and everyone was like,

okay, we have to stay inside, we have to be isolated, we have to be quarantined. Like, people took that very seriously for the most part for, i don't know what a month five weeks and then now everyone's like all right we're done with this like we're ready to get the fuck out of here so it's like the it's almost flipped completely on the other side where it's like okay you tell people they can leave now like they're gonna be okay well yeah like i'm not coming back inside like i'm already i've already done that for too long i don't know what the answer is because like i feel like they can try to get back out there and it's like all right you you can do the whole no fans thing but like when people see that sports

are resuming they're gonna think it's okay to go outside and then if they do get the okay to go outside then everyone is gonna be going out in mass droves. That's the thing. I don't think people are thinking about how important sports is as kind of like a signal of normalcy back in culture again. And it's like, yeah, it might be safe to get 50 guys who sit 100 million feet apart and we play baseball and it's all good. But the problem is the people who go well if they're gonna play baseball i'm gonna go back on my construction job and they play baseball i'm gonna go back to the restaurant and no it's like well those are two very different things and you

it sucks for for baseball players and like the fans who want to watch it but you almost need to think of like you guys are going to be setting the tone and like the example. And while it might, you're, you're getting penalized because you know, the dummies of the world might, might follow your, your, uh, your footsteps when they're really in, they're not comparable, uh, circumstances. So I don't know. I don't know what the answer is. What's that? What's really going to suck is, and again, like no politics. Like I don't want to get into like the governors versus the president, blah, blah, blah, whatever. What's going to start happening, because it's already starting to happen, is that different states are going to start reopening different things while like we are.

Like and understandably, like New York's the epicenter. But like outside of like, you know, the actual death and sickness and everything, like we know that's happening. Like I said this yesterday to one of my girlfriends who lives in Texas. And she's like, I think I can get my hair done in May 15th. Yeah. When like all the people in the fucking South start looking better again or wherever they're opening up.

I know like Ohio. So like everybody's going to start looking at the guys are going to be getting their haircuts, the girls, nails, spray tans, everything. And then the two coasts,

which are normally kind of held as like the coast that kind of sets the fashion and the trend, like we're all still going to be ugly as shit. That's going to be the problem. Yeah, that's for certain. I wonder if people, like, if you were single, didn't have a family, didn't have many connections, and it was like, Ohio is going to open back up, would you get up there and move?

If you were out of work, and it was like, well, I'm a bartender. I can. And if I move to Cleveland, I can get a bartending gig right now. Maybe temporarily. Yeah. I mean, like if you're living in somewhere like, yeah, if you're living somewhere like in New York right now and like, you know, that the end is not really in sight, like even like outside of working, because obviously my job is here, but I've thought about like, okay, they say it's okay to travel or they say it's okay to whatever. And every else, like everywhere else starts opening up. Like I would think about maybe like, oh, I'm going to maybe fly to state in the South and get my nails done and then come back. Because if it's okay down there, I'm not doing anything wrong. I'm not going to do that because I want to stay in New York, but

people are going to start doing those types of things. I mean, the videos of the airplanes right now are like completely full. Yeah. I mean, the videos of the airplanes right now are like completely full. Yeah. I mean, if you, if you were one of these people who was like starving in New York as is like, there's a lot of people who live in New York that probably should not live in New York because they just can't fucking afford it. And, you know, maybe this would be the signal like, all right, my, my sex in the city experiment is over.

I'm going to go to like a much more normal city. And like, the reason I'm going to do it now is because I can get a paycheck there. And that might be interesting, too. That's where you probably... I don't know if that's a possibility. Maybe that's pie in the sky of people moving right now. That's probably pretty far-fetched as well. But the same way that sports leagues want to be the first place to open up, I wonder if cities are feeling the same way. Maybe that's why the beaches in Florida and Georgia wanted to open up.

Texas is starting today. If we're the only place that's booming with culture and money and employment, maybe we kind of rise the ranks of American cities or whatever it may be. But all of this shit, I feel like you get caught up in it and next thing you know,

grandma and grandpa are dead because we went we went too hard with it so it really is amazing how like it clearly it's a global thing like the whole world is dealing with it but even in just in our country how like if you have like i have friends who like not even just in texas that live in the south that still have like some sense of normalcy like they can't go to bars and restaurants but their life isn't as like contained as like new york is or la is and it's like everybody's going to start reopening whatever they want and all of a sudden it's going to be like state versus state again like it's gonna be like well fucking oklahoma's doing this but california is doing this and that's not going

to help anybody either right yeah no i know it's all it's all a mess i can't imagine being a politician in politics oh and by me by the way when do you think the barstool office will be at full capacity again like next year yeah i definitely think after the summer though i feel like because the summer is always kind of like dead anyway people back in like i think i think what it's going to be like is like by like june july like if you have a radio show you go in to do radio and then you leave and then like if you can blog from home you blog from home if you do a podcast like you come in to do that like i don't think that we'll see like a full roster at hq until like the winter i i know i think it'll be earlier than that i know

that i'm loving quarantine and I never want to go back, but I feel like a lot of shit has proven that we can, like a lot of things you can do remotely. And I know maybe this is inconvenient and awkward at times, but I also don't think there's any, if there is still any risk at all, and maybe I'd be different if I was a young single guy, but if there's like any risk of anything going wrong with my kids or family or whatever it's like i can just do this with this little kit here i can just skype in um it's remarkable like what you can accomplish

because of technology if this happened like 10 15 20 years ago would be absolutely fucked but yeah i don't know i again that's also you know it's on a it's basically like on a smaller scale like if you're if you're the if you're erica or dave or penn you're basically our politician and it's like i don't i don't i would not be envious of making that decision either because there's risk and liability and all that shit i have a hard time believing that if and again i'm just going off of colleges because that's what i'm paying the closest attention to if colleges across the country are completely reopening in the fall sports or not like take believing that if, and again, I'm just going off of colleges, because that's what I'm paying the closest attention to. If colleges across the country are completely reopening in the fall sports or not like take football off the table.

Like if college campuses are letting 50,000 people on their campuses, like the fact that Barstool is not going to be full until 2021 feels a little bit hard to believe. I just can't believe the colleges are doing that. Cause that's just, I mean, I also feel like there's so much money to be made and those guys are like, we are not missing out on tuition. We got to go. Um,

but that seems, that seems like, they're not even just colleges. I mean, just different, different States. And again, like it then becomes a political thing.

I mean, that's the thing too, though. But like, I mean, New York is just, this is the fucking epicenter, you know? Right, of course.

That's what's tough. The goddamn Mets. Real quick, let me just sneak in. Let me sneak in two things real quick. What a transition that was, Kevin. Yeah, well, because I think certain people want to make money. And the goddamn Mets right now, the fucking Wilpons are asking people to hold on to their tickets, which are not going to be,

you are not going to see a Mets game at city field this year, period. Facts. End of statement. Like you might get to see baseball, but it's going to be in Arizona or St. Petersburg, Florida, or somewhere Arlington, Texas is not going to fucking happen. And they're asking people to just keep their tickets with a promise of credit in the future.

Now, no, if you got some broke ass friend, if you've got some friend who, you know, lives paycheck to paycheck and barely makes rent and takes loans from their parents and all that shit. When they tell you like, yo man, let me just, let me just get a little bit of money and I promise I'll pay you back. Are you expecting to ever see that money? No fucking way. And that's what the dumb ass broke ass cheap will ponds are doing right now.

They, they put out this press release and Tim Healy said that the word refund did not appear until like the 1800th word out of like a 1900 word document. They are trying so hard to not refund people their money and they're trying so hard to get people to just keep their tickets for games that will not exist. Now is the time. Ask for your refund. Do not ask for credit.

Do not let them off the hook. This is it. This is our opportunity. We missed out when they fired that girl for being pregnant and nobody said a word about it. We missed out on that opportunity. We fucked up with Steve Cohen somehow and didn't let that happen initially.

Now is the time. We're not going to fuck this one up. If everybody demands a refund and the Wilpons flat out say we do not have the money to do that, there's no goddamn way Major League Baseball can keep letting them run a baseball organization. If you can't refund tickets to people for games that are never going to happen, then you can't run a fucking team. You are not financially possible. You're not solvent.

You're not liquid. You're not capable. And now you have to step on their throats and make it happen. This is actually a chance where like the fans could probably make it happen and get them out. And they just have to ask for what their will, what they are rightfully entitled to. You're not, we're not talking about protests, talking about billboards. We're not talking about flying planes. out and they just have to ask for what they are rightfully entitled to.

We're not talking about protests. We're talking about billboards. We're not talking about flying planes. We're not talking about making clown t-shirts. We're asking you to just get your refund that you rightfully deserve and that will put them out of business. Do it. If you are a season ticket holder, if you purchased anything through the Mets, ask for your refund.

Kevin, I want to be on one of those PSA commercials so bad. Like, clip out what you just did, put it over some really clownish-looking footage of the Wilpon, and just blast that shit PSA style over every single TV. That's exactly what I'm going to do. I hope Nick is listening. I want Nick to do that exact thing right now. Because that would, I mean, right? Rocket, would that not, like, fuck them? Like, if the fans were just like, listen, the games aren't going to happen and we want a refund.

And the Wilpons are like, we cannot do that. Is that not a big enough red flag? Yeah, I feel like that would be the best look. Yeah. That would be the best look. flag for yeah and like are the Mets when when as an organization when did the Mets commit through to pay their employees is it May I do not know that answer I do know that they are having trouble paying signing bonuses to players who signed this year uh I don't know what what a disaster yeah I don't know what that means for like regular employees because it obviously is way more than just players but i i do not know the answer to that i do know that we have just

been hearing for years that they need to take out loans every single season to cover operating costs how is that allowed how do they let this go on and i feel like the pr nightmare of like we have thousands of mets fans asking for what they deserve and their money back. And the Wilpons just can't fucking do it. I mean, they've become their own Ponzi scheme. If they're taking money and using it elsewhere,

and then there's like a run on the banks and they're asking for their money back. This is like a little mini version of the stock market crashing within Queens, within the Wilpons organizations. Fucking bullshit. It's like the, it's like the fire festival, whatever.

They're like, well, we're not going to give you your money back, but you can come to the 2000, whatever the next year. We're not going to give you your money back for 2020. Exactly. We'll give it to you in 2021. It's like, well, no shit. Like you're going to give it to me next year. There's going to be baseball next year.

Like they are their own version of the fire fest. That's what they are. They absolutely are. They're just a fucking bunch of scoundrels and scammers and we've been letting them off the hook for years we've never had a way to actually like enact this change until right now and all you got to do is say no thanks on that fake credit that we know you're never going to be able to pay never how about you just fucking give give us our money back? Oh, can't do it. Right. Like, how about the fact that I need to pay my fucking rent?

I don't want a credit to Citi Field. Like, give me my fucking money back. Money's tight right now. You don't need to be loaning it out to the goddamn Wilpons, who are the most, you know, the worst people you'd ever want to loan money to in the first place. And I know I got to shout out Laura Goldman, who is a writer for, i'm not sure where where she writes for but very smart chick from wharton who has been covering the mets who said like straight up everything she's seen is indicating that the will ponds are flat broke like do not have money no money coming in from tickets no money in their pockets no money

in the bank now Now is the time. Get your fucking refund. We have like one minute left, but I want to get Dominican Dylan in because I don't want to leave him waiting on hold the whole day. You got like 60 seconds. What's up, Dill? Hey, what up, guys? Fuck those guys in the first place. I'm going to get my refund from my half-year ticket plan now then.

Yes. Those fucking assholes. I don't know why we're still dealing with them. Right. Now's the time. Anyway, I got a minute, so fuck it. Let's have a good weekend. We fucking assholes. I don't know what we're still dealing with them. Right. Now's the time. Anyway, I got a minute, so fuck it. Let's have a good weekend. We got nice weather.

Let's get the barbecue going. Let's have a nice time. Fuck it. We're going to be living nice. Do we have nice weather? Oh, yeah. Tomorrow's going to be nice. Tomorrow's going to be nice.

Okay. Let's pop in the top off. We're getting the tan rolling. Let's go. Okay. Literally, as I opened up the weather app, Saturday went from partly cloudy to just a full sunshine. So you're goddamn right, Dylan.

Let's do it. Do a little safe social distancing, but have some fun. It's May. It's time to get our sights set on summer. Maybe get a tan, like you said. Do it all safe, but make sure that you get some fun in because you need it. You got to drop the crib, bang her out on the weekend, too. It's nice weather now.

Let's have a dog weekend. We'll see you Monday. Stay home, stay safe, stay hot. Have some fun. Take care.