KFC Radio - CCK Podcast: The Closer, The Rocket, The Commish

Episode Date: December 9, 2019

Dana White calls in to talk about UFC 245. The Rocket vs White Sox Dave. Are their more chairs or people in the world. The Mets get new life/new owner. Mo The Closer shows up on Thanksgiving Eve.You c...an find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/kfcr

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, KFC Radio listeners, you can find every episode of KFC Radio on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Kevin! Kevin! Kevin! Kevin! Oh. Kevin! You're just ridiculously stupid. Welcome back! Welcome back! Welcome back! Welcome! Welcome! Welcome! Is this Kevin? Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back.
Starting point is 00:00:27 Welcome, welcome, welcome. Is this Kevin? Welcome back. Oh yeah, man, how you doing? You good? I know you like that. I know you like that. How long you been back, man? Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome.
Starting point is 00:00:40 Truly welcome back. After a nice little break, back in business. December is here. Christmas season is here. Thanksgiving is done. Time is flying. We're almost at the end of the decade, folks. A month left to the end of the decade.
Starting point is 00:00:58 Think about that. That is weird. Let that settle in. I know. I saw people doing like the best moments on Twitter of the decade. Some shit that you don't even know about because you're going all the way back to fucking 2009 and 2010. It's crazy. 2009 counts?
Starting point is 00:01:09 I don't know. I never know where. No, I think it's 10 to 20. Is it 10 to 20, 9 to 19? And even still, 2010, I've told this story before. 2010, if you go all the way back to 2010, that's when I turned 21. And I needed to get braces. i braces at 21 yep so you were and you were also still scrawny and shit no i was i was i started working out in like 2008 okay so like i
Starting point is 00:01:36 was like 135 at that point thought i was fucking huge uh so i put some meat on then. I wasn't Skeletor at the time. So I had to put braces on. So I got a girlfriend while I had the braces. And I was like, yeah, I mean, might as well secure the bag while I got the braces. And then when I got them off, I dumped them. Peace! You are a bag of shit. You really are a big piece of shit. But there's something endearing about when you embrace it.
Starting point is 00:02:04 You're just like, yep. Yeah, I mean, as long as you're honest about it it i feel like that makes you less of a scumbag like i'm telling you like i'm giving you when you started dating her did you say i'm dating you because of my braces no yeah you weren't when you broke up with her did you say hey i got my braces off so we're done so then how much are we really being honest i have said this to her before i was like you're the only girl i've ever dumped for like no reason i was like you were great you're such an ass no like i said that to her i was like you know you were great but under what dogs did you say dogs gotta eat babe i mean there was a reason you just didn't want to be with her no no no she was great well right but you just didn't want to be well no no no that just means she wasn't hot enough.
Starting point is 00:02:45 No, that's not true either. That's not true. If she was like a dime, you would have just stayed with her. I mean, we still hooked up for years after we broke up. But if she was like a 10, you ain't breaking up with her. I agree with that. No, dogs got to eat. It was my first summer as a 21-year-old going to bars.
Starting point is 00:03:01 At least I fucking broke up with her first. I know, but that's- You but I could have cheated on her. You're a hero. You're a hero. That means there was a reason you just didn't want to be with her. That was such a genuine in his heart. He was like, I'm a,
Starting point is 00:03:14 I'm a hero. At least I broke up with her. Yeah. I broke up with her. And I guess I had an awesome summer with my straight fucking teeth. Unbelievable. Yeah. I don't even know how we got here already.
Starting point is 00:03:26 No, it's because it was a decade ago. That's how I started the decade. That's how he started this decade. My entire decade is Barstool. That's it. That is crazy. I mean, amongst, I mean, I had, you know, I did it all in this last decade, good and bad,
Starting point is 00:03:39 but it's all, it goes all the way back to the beginning of Barstool for me. So that was, that was this decade. I was a junior in college. Jesus Christ. I mean, that's when she was getting like young money no that was my sophomore year tongue but close i did have my tongue pierced my junior i mean the spectrum the casey smith oh man spectrum as it pertains to this past decade it is quite the scene crazy it is quite i got one could argue that she went from the bottom to the top. I argue the other way around because I think the Young Money tattoo,
Starting point is 00:04:08 Casey Smith might be the best case. Oh, no. That was Pete Casey. Oh, no. Absolutely not. Strong disagree. Strong disagree. I can tell you.
Starting point is 00:04:15 I was there. I happened to be there during that time. Strong disagree. I don't know if I'd want to know like Young Money Casey, but I feel like tongue piercing Casey was something to behold. I'm telling you, college Casey was. Did you ever smoke cigarettes? I feel like tongue piercing Casey was something to behold. I'm telling you, college Casey was... Did you ever smoke cigarettes? I feel like that was the missing component. Trashy tattoos, tongue
Starting point is 00:04:30 piercings, and cigs. That would be great. Ripping menthol. I didn't get the tattoo, and I never smoked a cigarette. Ever? What about a cigar? Ew, gross. We've all gone through a cigar phase
Starting point is 00:04:46 I don't think girls go through cigar phases more like black and mild oh I did smoke the wine tips like only a couple times I just didn't like I mean the only thing I ever liked smoking was weed because I felt something I was the same thing with cigarettes I never got the appeal other than the fact that they look cool as shit
Starting point is 00:05:02 it also just makes your mouth taste bad like when my ex-boyfriend I had an ex-boyfriend who loved cigars for things and I just didn't want to be anywhere near him. Well that's why I got to smoke cigars. Cigars are basically like incense for chicks.
Starting point is 00:05:18 It's not the smell, it's like your mouth tastes bad. I don't want that. Like listen, your mouth's the same though. You know what I'm saying? your mouth doesn't taste like nothing it doesn't matter what your mouth smells like when it's not even near my mouth oh my god those house parties back in the day were fucking uh we literally had what was that movie project x yeah oh we have that so when i was when i was a junior in high school it was weird it was like degrees of separation so when i was good when i was a junior in high school it was weird it was like degrees of separation so when i was when i was like a sophomore and a junior like when i was 16 my
Starting point is 00:05:51 friends were 18 but they're my 18 year old friends friends were 21 so it was a weird dynamic where i was like 16 partying with like 21 and 22 year olds and this kid basically had his own house like his parents like left there's house. There's always one. Yeah. So he had a house, and we destroyed this thing. We would invite people off the street to come into the house. There was this one dude that just straight up threw an elbow into a drywall in the basement. My friend DJ came back from leave.
Starting point is 00:06:23 He was in the army he came back and got shit faced and took out a power drill and just started undrilling all the screws in the cabinets and then drilling holes in the couch like this was this was every weekend it was every weekend so like when he when he went into the army we had a going away party for him uh it was like january 13th 2006 it was like a random saturday night in in my junior year of high school and then when he left we were like that was really fun let's do it again and then we just kept having going away parties even though he was gone for months so like that's just what we kept doing and that was like that was my high school experience it was great i we had one guy who his parents were always home they just like didn't care and i mean that
Starting point is 00:07:10 was like that was it that was poor people like we were just always in that yeah but it's kind of their fault though yeah because they let it happen i mean i've said this before i had a girlfriend that had so much money we could throw parties in their house and their parents wouldn't even know but even like if they did find out they didn't care whatever god bless those parents is having like kids that throw parties in my house well you just don't let them I know but like I'm gonna be traveling
Starting point is 00:07:34 you know it's part of my job I mean you're just gonna leave them by themselves I mean I'm gonna be divorced by then of course I love as he's saying this I'm like okay what else is going on in this hypothetical world by the time my kids are 16, as he's saying this, I'm like, okay, what else is going on in this hypothetical world? By the time my kids are 16, 17, 18, I'm still going to be married
Starting point is 00:07:51 or married at all. Like these kids are probably, I'll be the GM at that point. So I'll, you know, these kids are going to be had out of wedlock or their mother is going to be divorced from their father.
Starting point is 00:08:01 I can't believe that there are people who let that, I mean, you can't do that anymore. What? No. In this day and age, be the house that, like, throws parties because the liabilities and the lawsuits and the shit that goes on. Like, it used to be.
Starting point is 00:08:11 And the social media. The old, you know, give me your keys and, like, well, at least you're not drunk driving rather than what I'm watching. Like, that shit goes out the window. Plus, in our position. As soon as someone passes out, gets hurt, gets assaulted, has sex, like, whatever. Yeah. You're fucked. And then you're at fault. Yeah. Because they're right. And honestly, has sex, like whatever. You're fucked.
Starting point is 00:08:25 And then you're, you're at fault. And honestly, you are like, you are at fault. I don't think that that's like far fetched. We had a guy that went to our high school that was a couple of years younger, but his mom was like, like she was a sugar baby. She had to have been, they never said that, but it was very clear. Like, I don't think she was probably like early thirties and that's probably not right. Anyway, she was young and she would just let us all go over and like crash.
Starting point is 00:08:47 And I, even as like a 16 year old, I'd be like, this is weird, right? This is weird that she just letting all of these girls just spend the night with her son. Who's multiple.
Starting point is 00:08:54 Like, I guess I think we were seniors in high school and he was a sophomore maybe, but it was like guys and girls. And she was like, whatever you guys can, I'll just stay here. Like that. I'm not,
Starting point is 00:09:02 I'm a cool mom. I'm not normal. Mom. Then I started thinking like, what was there like a senior in high school? I, there was a whole, I was here. That is weird. I'm a cool mom. I'm not a normal mom. I'm a cool mom. Then I started thinking, was there a senior in high school? There was a whole lot. Oh, I'm sure that mom was fucking somebody. Yeah. And like I said before, we are at a greater risk because of the public figure aspect of
Starting point is 00:09:16 it. You don't want kids with Snapchat and Instagram being like, party at fucking KFC Barstools house. It's like, that's, yeah, you don't want that. That ain't happening. No. I also just don't want like kids there. Oh, you kids suck.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Yeah. Like, why is it fun to drill holes in my couch, you assholes? Yeah. Why would you want to host other kids anyways all the time? We went to a house party once. It was like outside of Philly. I went back and visited my friends there and um these i don't even know who these people were but there were people ripping the ceiling
Starting point is 00:09:50 fan out of the ceiling like hanging from it like spinning around on them and the dad came home and uh went bananas and like gave this huge speech where he at one point paused he was trying to say like my my my blood sweat and tears like went into this place and he just ended up yelling he just went my sweat and he just like paused and like looked around and no one knew what it meant so for like a decade straight me and jay love and we're all just always yelling my sweat but i mean this guy was having a meltdown because there was a bunch of fucking assholes i didn't know who these people were. They were just ripping shit off the wall and tearing things down.
Starting point is 00:10:27 I don't know why, but that is fun for some reason when you're that age. It's like, let's just break shit. Let's just be assholes. And it's just like, yeah, fuck yeah. Same reason why people flip cars and do stupid shit during parades. I don't know. People are just assholes. When you're experiencing being drunk for the first time,
Starting point is 00:10:43 not like the first time, first time, but like the first stage of it. Yeah. You just do control fucking shit. Like you do things like your respect for the place that you're in. It's not exist. Zero. None.
Starting point is 00:10:56 Respect to yourself for the humans around you. Oh my God. And then when you get to college, it's like even fucking worse. And then you sprinkle in like a big win or a big party or whatever. Did you see, uh, did you see like the ghost of Christmas future? Casey Smith jumping in the bushes. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:11:12 What? Oh yeah. That's, that's going to be. Oh yeah. I did see that. That's such a Casey movie. She's going to be a football mom later. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:18 And then Casey and her sister getting stuck in the hedges at the iron bowl. I can't wait. I can't wait for that. Like your son's going to be on a team and you're in, you're in in your in urine and her and his aunts are gonna be crawling through the fucking hedges get us out get us out drunk off a wine oh yeah no i mean listen i i would be smart enough to go around them because you can actually go around them can you i never it's my favorite tradition in college football is the people getting stuck in the hedges and i'm like do they do they have to jump through them why well i mean if you're coming out of the stands but like we're like on the sidelines at
Starting point is 00:11:47 auburn like we have to stand behind the hedges in some places some places you don't have to you can just walk around them but in a situation like that you don't want to take the time you want to rush the field so you're just jumping into them that one girl just disappeared that was unbelievable on the red light jumpsuit and you just see her face like, maybe, maybe I said, I've never gone from the stands to the field. So maybe in certain places you have to, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:12:11 I mean, I've been to Auburn. That is the ultimate, like I'm drunk and I'm excited and I'm not thinking at all. Clearly to just randomly, like even best case scenario, if you jump into a thing of fucking hedges, it's like sticks and you're going to get caught up. And that's the best case scenario if you jump into a thing of fucking hedges it's like sticks and you're gonna get cut up and that's the best case scenario worst case scenario is you get
Starting point is 00:12:30 fucking stuck in there and you're trying to swim your way out but in that moment you're drunk your team won and you just want to be standing 15 feet over there and the that game too just usually how crazy it is especially this one that was just like an instant classic like those people were blacked out they didn't know even if they were completely sober they were so excited that game too, just usually how crazy it is, especially this one that was just like an instant classic. Those people were blacked out. They didn't know. Even if they were completely sober, they were so excited that game ended the way that it did. You're just rocking on pure adrenaline at that point. See you fucking later. But the two moms that did it was fantastic. They're like
Starting point is 00:12:56 scooting through them almost. It was so funny. But that, I say this all the time and I know I'm a little bit biased because I love college football so much, but you don't see that happen really in anything else. You know what and I know I'm a little bit biased because I love college football so much, but you don't see that happen really in anything else. You know what it is? You need a little bit of shittiness. I mean, I guess kicking in the NFL is shitty too,
Starting point is 00:13:12 but the fact that you can bank on, like, you're going to miss this field goal, or it's going to be blown coverage, or you're going to have some kid at some point. A lot of people on the field are going to go pro, and a lot of people are going to go sell cars. And those kids that are selling cars in the future are going to fuck up, or they're going to come under the pressure, or Saban are going to go pro and a lot of people are going to go sell cars. And those kids that are selling cars in the future are going to fuck up or they're going
Starting point is 00:13:26 to come under the pressure or Saban's going to snap at them. And that's where you can always expect the fireworks. I said this right after the game. I would rather be a dead person than be in that locker room after that game. I would have rather died. I'd be like, you know what? I'm out. I'll kill myself.
Starting point is 00:13:40 What a little bitch, though, complaining about like the trick trick play, if you want to call it that. Yeah, I mean, there's just, obviously, this isn't a college football show, but there were so many things in the game. They shouldn't have kicked that field goal at the end of the first half. There's a million things that they did wrong to end up in that spot, but then to be like, I thought that play was really unfair. Really, Nick Saban, of all people?
Starting point is 00:13:59 Gus Malzahn, he just played a little bit of chess and fucked you up. That game was amazing, though, but then just seeing the hilarity because people in alabama and auburn they care so much about that game it's the only thing they care about they've literally shot each other over it i mean it's just like it doesn't really matter what else happens right it's just like no it doesn't we win that game we have the seasons of success a few years ago a woman killed i believe either her sister or her cousin because she wasn't upset enough about losing to auburn that's that's the rocket kind of gal right there yeah maybe not for college football but you need to find a girl with passion like that yeah like yeah no i murdered my uh my my own sister because she didn't hate the
Starting point is 00:14:34 yankees enough yeah i mean if i had a sister i would probably be like i would probably feel similarly but i think when uh i remember being i remember the only time I really felt murderous rage was after the Aaron Boone home run the next day, like being taunted by like a fake ass Yankee fans that like didn't even follow the team or the season. You think that if you had like a gun in that moment, you would have pulled the trigger? Yep. Right. Yeah. Not even like I would even have thought about it. No remorse. Even after the fact. Yeah. No even like, I wouldn't even have thought about it. No remorse.
Starting point is 00:15:06 Even after the fact. Yeah. No, I would have shot them again after they were dead. Uh, how was Thanksgiving for everybody? Nice little break. I'm out on holidays.
Starting point is 00:15:15 Oh yeah. I quit. There's a tank. Yeah. You are retiring from holiday life. Yep. I don't like it anymore. Um,
Starting point is 00:15:23 so we talked about you leaving your hat and glove in the ring on wednesday night oh kevin did you leave it kevin boy did i ever wow i participated like i went to carol went to cal and he said if if there's a certain like if oh i i listened to the show yeah i listened i couldn't i couldn't be away from you guys for one day. I went to Kowloon. And I poked. So Kowloon, like I said, it's huge. When you walk in, there's a bar area. But there's also a restaurant area. So when I got there, we did dinner.
Starting point is 00:15:55 And so I had my table set up. The Rock's table. Yep. And then shout out Dwayne, personal friend. But then the craziness, the madness is in the bar area. So I had dinner at the table. Is there music playing? In the bar?
Starting point is 00:16:10 Yeah, like bar music? Not really. Okay. So I ate. And then around 11, I walked over to the bar, poked my head in for 10 minutes. Couldn't even do it? It was just like mass chaos. Like I told you, if there were more people that asked for pictures than people that I recognized from Saugus, that I was done. Wasn't even close?
Starting point is 00:16:32 15 to 3, like within the 10 minutes. I told you. I told you. He sat the overrunner like six pictures. I was like, bro, you're going to get that in six minutes. But that's because, so it used to be just Saugus. And now it's more evolved into Saugus and a bordering town.
Starting point is 00:16:47 And I would say the bordering town now is like 60% to 40%. So like when I went in there, it was like, I, it's not that I'm too old. It's just like, I like, yeah, like these people aren't even from Saugus. So, um, you know, you're allowed to associate with people from outside Saugus, right? Yeah. But like not on the night before Thanksgiving. You're supposed to be reminiscing and reconnecting. It's supposed to be like, hey, I haven't seen you in a while.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Not, hey, nice to meet you. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I went back to my table and I just hung out with a bunch of my friends that I actually haven't seen in a while. So you retired from the bar life. Yeah. So you didn't even really do it, to be honest.
Starting point is 00:17:21 You poked your head in and were just fucking them out. Yeah. I saw Mo. The legend. I mean mean the legend of Mo. Who's Mo? This chick, the night before Thanksgiving. I did not see that coming. That's not a real name.
Starting point is 00:17:35 Me and my friends call her Mo. Does she stand for something? Mariana Rivera. She's the closest. She'll hover around all night and then when it's time to go you can talk to whatever girls you want she's not going to get jealous
Starting point is 00:17:49 but bar closes and she's like are we leaving? she's throwing that 94 mile an hour cutter she just comes in and closes it out that's her bread and butter no she didn't get to save this year, but,
Starting point is 00:18:05 uh, with you or anybody? Uh, I don't know. I don't, I mean, she might've cause like some people, what a great safety blanket though.
Starting point is 00:18:14 Yeah. It's just like, I'm going to go get these numbers. I'm going to go talk to this girl. Like we were talking about it tonight. We got there like 10 o'clock and we're like, Oh, when the bullpen phone rings in the third inning,
Starting point is 00:18:25 like she knows it's not for her. She's like, I'm only coming out. If it's not the ninth inning, I mean, it's not even, it's just like, it was almost,
Starting point is 00:18:34 she's self-aware. It would be sad if she's not. So like the best, she knows that she's called. She came in and a basis loaded jam a few years ago. And it was so impressive so like we after the loon
Starting point is 00:18:51 we went to my buddy's house and like I took a girl back to my buddy's house and I was sitting on the couch there and like it was like me and some other girl and I was like one of my friends and like tell me you chose to go home with a different girl but still ended up going with mo so so that's we're at like my buddy's house and it's me and some girl he's got a girl like whatever
Starting point is 00:19:13 everyone's got a girl and uh mo texts me she's like where you at i was like oh i'm at this house and she's like all right i'll come by she's friends like it's all like the same friend circle yeah so uh like 20 minutes later mo shows up comes in the house just sits in between me and the other girl we end up like going down the hall like hooking up and it was like even when you think she's not gonna get the fucking three outs she gets those three out finds a way yeah it's unbelievable no she's very impressive does she does she have any idea that this is her reputation? She knows. I don't hear from her any other night of the year.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Any other night of the year. And she's cute? Yeah. It's not like a last resort type deal. It's just like, oh no. It sounds like it is. No, it's really not. This girl just waits 364 days to get dicked down by the rocket. That's a low existence.
Starting point is 00:20:05 Didn't get the save this year. But was she there? No, she was there. She was there, but I think she went to another bar or whatever. Was the save there? Did Mo move on from you? No, no, no. She texted me and was like, what are you up to?
Starting point is 00:20:22 And it was like 2 o'clock, and I was like, I'm going to bed. Wow. You've grown up, Jared. I mean, I'm old now. You're officially washed. That's it. It is what it is. But I mean, you've got to respect. She wanted the ball in the night. Remember in Rookie of the Year when Chet Stedman, he's like,
Starting point is 00:20:39 give me one more. That was her. She just wanted one more and you couldn't give it to her. I'm surprised you didn't for old time's sake. For the nostalgia purposes. Just, you know, like you didn't even have to enjoy it. You didn't even have to come to be honest. Just do it. Yeah. Just be like for It's legendary. Like Cooperstown, man.
Starting point is 00:20:56 It was old timer's day. It was old timer's day and you just didn't make her dream come true. Yeah. It's over, man. It's a wrap. That's, I knew like I don't think i don't think for me that i'll ever like stop going to kowloon like it's still fine to go there and have dinner and like chill at like a table in the restaurant area but like my days of going in like the bar and it'd be like oh like it's fucking chaotic like no like that done done gloves boots hat
Starting point is 00:21:22 in the middle of the ring sometimes it's time to move on. Kevin, when's the last time you've done the night before? Wednesday before? Yeah. Oh my God. Literally can't even remember. Also shows how not memorable it was, so I don't remember missing much.
Starting point is 00:21:40 I don't think that I've done it since college. I went much more with my college friends. Yes, me too. I still have, like, two very good friends from high school, but don't, like, do that scene as much, you know? Like, my family moved from the town I went to high school into, so, like, a lot of my friends, their parents still live there, so they go back to the same town, they go to the same bars. I'm not, like, in that town anymore, so I just didn't really do it. I mean, it's probably been, like, eight probably been like a eight yeah seven or eight years if i even get to do anything for thanksgiving because usually i'm working for football but if i do i just get drunk with my
Starting point is 00:22:16 family yeah like i don't like we my cousins like they're all around my age or like in their 40s or whatever so it's like okay like we'll all just get drunk I haven't gone like a bar with my high school friends. High school reunion type shit. I don't think I've done that since probably my freshman or sophomore year of college. Yeah. I think I did it like once or twice and I was like, meh. I feel like certain people go high school, certain people go college. It all kind of depends on that.
Starting point is 00:22:37 But I mean, yeah. My cousin has a super sick house. I saw that. That fucking place looked incredible. He's the one he's the the one that's the director of photography for mr robot and for stranger things right um that shit pays apparently yeah oh there's a picture of mo yeah i mean you know not what you'd expect for from a girl who you know is just waiting around to get fucked by the rocket like i would i would expect worse I mean that's it's not a bad closer to rely upon
Starting point is 00:23:07 yeah legendary I think this girl follows me maybe you are following back there okay Zah what did you do for Thanksgiving brother nothing man I was home all break
Starting point is 00:23:22 I didn't do anything yeah I mean you just came off your big family experience anyway. What's your favorite holiday? What's my favorite holiday? Probably Christmas because it's the longest. Yeah, I guess that's true. But just for like the environment's sake. Environment's sake,
Starting point is 00:23:37 I hate Christmas because there's a lot going on with it. I guess 4th of July? 4th of July, partying, barbecue, warm water. I can still get down with the 4th of July? Yeah. 4th of July, partying, barbecue, warm water. I can still get down with the 4th of July.
Starting point is 00:23:48 That's like a celebration of summer in the country. That's like a drinking, barbecuing, partying type of holiday. Best time of the year, best food, best environment.
Starting point is 00:23:57 Christmas, Thanksgiving is like family stuff. 4th of July, Memorial Day, Labor Day are like friends and partying stuff yeah i don't know i like i said i quit holidays i think i'll probably so wait wednesday went you know how it
Starting point is 00:24:11 went what about the actual holiday did that go yeah yeah no i was out on the whole thing it's didn't you like didn't you like end thanksgiving didn't you just say you were going to kowloon anyway no that was christmas christmas okay okay so you've ended Christmas. He went a whole thing last year. I mean, cause we were already doing CCK at that point. He said he just wasn't going to spend time with his family. Yeah. And I didn't,
Starting point is 00:24:30 I went to Calhoun on Christmas. I will. You'd be doing that this year. Yep. Yep. Yep. All right. Out on holidays.
Starting point is 00:24:38 Yeah. No, I'll still buy my family presents, but like when I want to go to Calhoun, I'm going, going, you're out on it because you don't have anybody around your age right yeah and like it's just i don't know i don't i don't
Starting point is 00:24:50 deal with like like if everyone's not in a good mood it's just like uh just well i mean i holidays yeah like holidays once you have families and shit are just added stress yeah and there's like you know nice moments in between you see your family you have families and shit, are just added stress. Yeah. And there's like, you know, nice moments in between. You see your family. You have some, you know, wholesome family time and shit. Yeah. But it's mostly like travel. If you have young kids, I mean, my kids, it's just like, you know, it's just a juggling fiasco.
Starting point is 00:25:16 If you have young kids, it's tough. If you have multiple families to see, it's tough. If you're doing split families, it's tough. And it just becomes like travel and plans and logistics and organizing. Who's bringing what? Who's cooking? Would you rather host and have to do all the work, but then you don't have to travel? Would you rather travel?
Starting point is 00:25:32 But then, you know, what time do you get home? You know, it's like, it's all just added stress. I mean, I'm coming, I'm coming back around on it because of little kids. Like I went full blown buddy, Elf on my apartment last night. It's so cute. Because it's... Thanksgiving was so late. It's like, boom, it's Christmas time.
Starting point is 00:25:52 We're already into December. So I went... I was fucking in the middle of the Jets game. I left. I went out. Fuck the Jets. Fuck the Jets. You're an idiot for betting on them, though, because that was a trap game.
Starting point is 00:26:04 That had all the makings of a trap. Yeah, I guess. And I'm an idiot for betting on them though because that was a trap game. That had all the makings of a trap. Yeah, I guess. And I'm an idiot for letting me. I mean, I also bet on the Patriots. So, I was just a full-blown idiot. It's shocking, stunning that that stunt from the Texans D-line didn't backfire because that has
Starting point is 00:26:19 Patriots embarrassing you written all over it. We'll talk about that for certain. But I went out in the middle of the Jets game and I went and i bought a bajillion dollars worth of fucking christmas decorations because i needed some sort of happiness in my life and the jets were not providing that and i created a goddamn winter wonderland rocket good for you though i mean if if you're my kids are gonna like it for about three seconds that's what i'm saying though it's like so if you're out on like the holidays and it's like, not like a hassle, but it just lost its spark.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Kids bring that back. I don't have kids. Yeah. Look at this. Look at that. Bam. That's incredible. No, see, I got the, I got the tree.
Starting point is 00:26:57 I got the icicles. I got the, the, the, the train tracks on the bottom. I got the whole nine. The stockings, everything. I have to have a Christmas tree. I decorated my tree. I came back on Friday because we had to stream the Ohio State I got the whole nine. The stockings, everything. I have to have a Christmas tree. I decorated my tree. I came back on Friday because we had to stream the Ohio State Michigan game, which got all
Starting point is 00:27:10 business Pete fired. He's here today, by the way. I was like half as expecting. Yeah, like I was just expecting him to just not be here. To rearrange everyone's like holiday plans to stream a game. That Dave left in the middle of? Not even in the middle of? Never really needed to have in the middle of? Yeah. Not even in the middle of? Never really needed to happen
Starting point is 00:27:25 in the first place. Also, wasn't physically, technically working and then Dave leaves in the middle. I mean, that's just, that's unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:27:32 Did Dave ever address the Pete thing after storming out and firing? No, the only thing, the only update that we got was Andrew,
Starting point is 00:27:38 Tech Eye Andrew came in and said that Dave had text Pete, fuck you. That was it. Yeah, I mean, Dave and Pete
Starting point is 00:27:44 are like the couple who fight at the party and fight in front of everyone and then are together the next day. They were talking about the TVs today, right in front of my desk, because he was asking Pete, he was like, do we not run like a sports bar? Like sports bars have a billion TVs on. Why do they not have any problems? I didn't hear the explanation, but that's all beside the point. I decorated my Christmas tree on Saturday because the stream ended very early. And I went home and I was like, Oh,
Starting point is 00:28:07 I'll watch these games and decorate my tree. Did you do real or fake? I always do fake. Me too. Thank you. The real, first of all, I'm not dragging a real tree anywhere.
Starting point is 00:28:14 Like I, I'm not doing it. So what'd you get delivered to you? Yeah. I went to New York. You get every, like I Amazon prime. The only thing that they do make it easy if you want to go real in New York
Starting point is 00:28:22 city. Cause they're on literally every corner. And I don't like the cleanup. I hate, I don're on literally every corner. I don't like the cleanup. First of all, I don't like the smell. Some people like the smell. I don't care for the smell. The shedding, the caring for it, it's just the whole fuck. I want mine to be like perfectly triangle.
Starting point is 00:28:36 You have to have the water in and all that shit. But I'm also over the argument because it's like politics. You're not going to convince someone who likes real is never going to come on the side of fake someone likes fake that's not true i've gone back and forth yeah yeah but i mean like now that because like you have kids casey like has like friends over for like wine nights no one ever comes to my apartment yeah so i will take one instagram picture they won't even make my actual instagram
Starting point is 00:29:00 it'll just be a story so i'll go through sorry you're just not doing it no yeah I don't do it for anybody else. I do it because I like having a Christmas tree. I mean, and I do have people over and stuff like that, but at the same time, I just like Christmas. Yeah, no, I mean, I made a commitment to myself this year to get into the Christmas spirit. So I was like, it's December. I got nothing else to do right now. My kids are going to like this. I'm going to go all out. Spent a boatload of money. I told the story on KFC radio it'll be out tomorrow I went to Target to buy the the tree and they make them pre-lit now oh yeah but they're like way more expensive so I was like you know what I'm gonna get the cheaper one I'm gonna just do it no Kevin well no listen to
Starting point is 00:29:37 tomorrow's episode of the podcast did not go well was was was not worth I should have just bought the pre-lit that's another reason I don't like real trees because you have to string the lights like my mom tried to get fancy with it one year and get a real tree like i don't know why she decided to because we grew up with multiple fake trees in the house and then now we get like a real one and they tried to show my sister and i how to light the tree i was like why the fuck would anybody ever do this yeah she is she picked out a like a one of the little three foot ones at target the one of the white ones no she was like i want that i was like no honey she's like but i want this one and i was like almost in any other scenario i'm always like well i don't really
Starting point is 00:30:15 care whatever the kid wants let's just do that but i was like i mean kevin you know what you do you know what you do they have their own rooms or do they share a room no they have their own room okay get a small one for her room so that's what my parents used to do. They get like the little teeny tiny ones. And like, I wanted a pink one, one year. And they're like, well, we're not putting that in the living room. We're not going to put that upstairs. We're going to put it like a little tiny one in my room.
Starting point is 00:30:34 And it appeased me. And then I got old enough. That's a good idea. That's not cute. The white tree looks good with the colored lights. And then the real tree looks good with. I'm colored all the way through. Straight white, straight white trash, baby.
Starting point is 00:30:43 What? Yeah. I mean, I just like colors. No, the whole point of being a little kid. The colors of the ornaments. No, the regular lights illuminate the ornaments. No, I do it all. All color, baby. We have like a loft in my parents' house
Starting point is 00:30:56 and all of our rooms are downstairs. We have like one loft. So they appeased us by doing the colored Christmas tree upstairs with all of our kid ornaments. But my mom was like, we're not having colored lights in our living room. I agree that it's classier with the white lights, but I just don't give a fuck about that. All my things from my
Starting point is 00:31:12 childhood, it's like, I like the above-ground pools, I like the cheap snacks, I like the colored lights, I like all the white trash stuff from when I was a white trash kid. I had an above-ground pool. Yeah, they're awesome. So much fun. That's part of the fun, too. You never know. Let's hit our break now. When we come back, it was a white trash kid. Yeah. I had a bubblegum pool. Yeah, they're awesome. So much fun. Yeah. That's part of the fun too. You never know.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Let's hit our break now. When we come back, it was a long break of TV. We got to talk about the Irishman. We got to talk about the true crime documentary I watched.
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Starting point is 00:33:02 so that your package is complete. Go to manscaped.com, promo code KFC for 20% off. Kevin, Kevin, Kevin, Kevin, Kevin, you're just ridiculously stupid. Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back. Welcome, welcome, welcome. Is this Kevin? Welcome back, welcome back. Welcome, welcome, welcome. Is this Kevin? Welcome back. Oh, yeah, man, how you doing? You good? I know you like that.
Starting point is 00:33:34 I know you like that. Come on, you've been back. Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome. I see the girls in the club, they're getting wild. It's a two-man Tuesday here at CCK. Kill the two-man. You're not a real Barstool fan. You're not a real stoolie unless you know the two-man Tuesday here at CCK. Kill the two-man. You're not a real Barstool fan. You're not a real stoolie unless you know the two-man.
Starting point is 00:33:50 The greatest of all of Hen Easy's creations, the two-man. What about Franny Lydon? Franny Lydon was just a low-hanging fruit commenter. But if you were to power rank... Two Man Tuesday is brilliance. Yeah, but... Controversy, of course, Franny Leiden. Yeah, but if you were to power rank Hank's contributions
Starting point is 00:34:15 or contributions slash storylines at the company, Franny Leiden is number one, or has to be. Well, I think the overall idea of like being producer of PMT is gonna be what that's his greatest achievement or biggest storyline his greatest involvement I think Franny Lydon slash
Starting point is 00:34:36 Hankapalooza since it all happened people don't realize Franny Lydon he told on himself at Hankapalooza that was crazy huh and Dave was, that was crazy, huh? And Dave was like, what was crazy? Like, the whole commenter thing. So that kind of goes hand in hand.
Starting point is 00:34:51 Yeah. I didn't understand until I saw the Barstool documentary. I thought Hank was a commenter that got hired. He became a commenter after he was hired. And my favorite thing is he was like, I just got caught up in the commenter world. You know and his and my favorite thing is his like he was like i just like got caught up in the commenter like world you know like the wave just took me away i think like like like if you if you went through like a partying phase like oh man i was like heavy into fucking molly at that point in my life he was like i was heavy in the comment
Starting point is 00:35:19 game for like a few weeks i was always cool because he was nice to me he either didn't talk about me at all or he said like nice things about me. So I was like, I fucking love Franny line. This is all good with me. Yeah. I was a commenter for one day. You were in like 2008 prior to working here.
Starting point is 00:35:34 Oh yeah. Yeah. I was a commenter in 2008 and um, I was still trying to understand like commenter etiquette. Okay. So like I had, well this is back when there was a little bit of a code and a little bit of a way to do it.
Starting point is 00:35:47 So I understand that. Yes. Like there was a hierarchy. There was, you know. I think like I commented, I had like a joke that I thought just crushed it, but it was on a blog that was like four blogs down. So I was like, oh, let me run that back.
Starting point is 00:35:59 So I did it again on like another blog. Can't do it. Everyone was like, you already did that joke. We saw it. We saw it earlier. You fucking loser. loser see that's back when there was a code yeah i respect those commenters jumping on your throat yeah yeah yeah and then i was like i'm never doing this again even though they had they had no idea who
Starting point is 00:36:14 i was what my name was what i looked like i was like i am getting roasted right now i'm done yeah that's it's a commenter life is not for the weary i mean there was a there was a bunch of them there was um he did 76 who had a battering ram right hand you remember that guy he was always like i'm gonna fucking kill you with my battering ram right hand there was always his go-to there was uh there was steak and shake or something like that there was a bunch of old guys that there was an old man i bet you there's been commenter deaths. Oh, for sure. No doubt. I haven't said this publicly,
Starting point is 00:36:48 but I told you privately that an all-time legendary Barstool commenter I went to high school with. Right. Who was it? Was it Lobster Claw? No.
Starting point is 00:36:57 No? Who was it? You want me to say it? Yeah, I don't care. Numero two. Right. What happened to him? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:37:02 He disappeared. Yeah, he's fine. I asked. Maybe he just... He he he had he had his fill of the comment he was the best commenter ever yeah he was like it was like i almost thought he could be a blogger he was like he contributed they were funny they were relevant yes super very smart yeah he used to be a very big kfc radio fan he actually did he do um we did the like a commenter episode yeah he he appeared on it yes he did and the other guy wilbraham had like a bag of chips over his head he was like a total idiot but numero two was just
Starting point is 00:37:29 like yeah i'll like i'll do your show it was like a a guest appearance basically yeah yeah uh but yeah i remember he just kind of disappeared off of twitter too so like a lot of people thought something bad happened to him no i i checked in with his sister and she relatively recently probably like in the last like two years okay i think and she was like, relatively recently, probably like in the last, like two years. Okay. And she's like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:37:47 no, he's all right. As long as it was no, like, yeah, yeah. Like a psychotic break. No,
Starting point is 00:37:51 he's like, you know, I think he probably just has like a real life now. Yeah. Right. He's probably like two years older than me. So, well,
Starting point is 00:37:57 I definitely think it's something you like, especially the way barstool, like the trajectory of barstool. I could see people like growing out of it where it was like, you know, I was really into this. I've really like dove into the barstool, like the trajectory of barstool, I could see people like growing out of it where it was like, you know, I was really into this. I've really like dove into the barstool culture. And now like,
Starting point is 00:38:10 yeah, I got kids or a job or a married. And it changes so much. It's like, I can't comment every 30 minutes on a blog. Right. Yeah. The commenters were,
Starting point is 00:38:20 I mean, that was, there was, there was commenters back in the day where you would expect to see their names. Like you write something and it's like, Oh, you're, you know who you're going to hear from. Yeah. Uh, and they were funny. Like they, they actually added to the dialogue of, of what we were commenting.
Starting point is 00:38:36 We lost that completely. That's all gone now. I remember I, I did, I had to write a comment to the commenters like probably 2010 ish. Yeah. And i remember being like all right guys we gotta clean it up a little bit like you know you can talk about sucking farts out of a girl's ass or something but we can't do the racism we can't do the this the that and they all like jumped down my throat about it but there was like a level of respect now it's just like no it's true it's truly like trolling commenter type shit like you know when you say like internet
Starting point is 00:39:03 commenter the stereotype is is what it is now. It used to be more of like, these are guys who needed Barstool. They were stuck at work and they just wanted another level of engagement. They were cool. I think the last time that I really stopped caring about something
Starting point is 00:39:19 that someone posted on the internet was when someone posted something about like my personal life and i found out who it was and saw a picture of them and they literally it was a guy that had like mantis like i was like these are the type of people right that i remember uh there was times where reddit was like jumping down my throat and then i click on someone and i look at their like other posts and it was like my parents are out of town do you think I can throw a party tonight and I was like okay time to check myself like I'm getting fired up over like a 16 year old right um but uh I I
Starting point is 00:39:55 are the the the boo birds are out right now rocket for me yeah yeah what what's what's how's the arm feeling I mean it's my back back hurts. I can't imagine. I don't know what White Sox Dave shape is in either right now. I mean, he runs marathons. Yeah, that's true. He's one of those weird, he's not healthy by any means, but he just can do weird shit like that. I mean, the way that people celebrated on the internet last night, like a dictator was taken out of power. That seems a little extreme. That's the sign that you got it.
Starting point is 00:40:23 It made me feel good. It made me feel good. It's like when the heel lost the belt or lost a match or whatever for one time and the crowd goes wild. You built something up to where the payoff of you finally losing is a... And I almost respected it because
Starting point is 00:40:39 I found it to be comparable to the Astros Yankees rant that I had. Because the Red Sox sucked all year. I couldn't say a fucking word. I couldn't chirp. You had your one moment. And then when I had my chance, I let it rip.
Starting point is 00:40:55 That's the thing. I went all in. And so it was the same thing. You have to tip your cap or call your daddy or whatever it is. There are certain moments where you're just like, all right. Yeah. All right, let's hear it. Like now's your time.
Starting point is 00:41:06 I've been, I've been on top. I've been winning world series. I've been like excelling at work. You guys are hating on the rocket. I just keep steadily rising. Now is your opportunity and you got to respect it. The other thing too,
Starting point is 00:41:17 I think that somewhere there was like a false narrative developed here where I said or thought that I could throw harder than White Sox Dave. I never said that. Right. I, all I said was when he was throwing 95, like with the crow hop and the run, I was like, no dude, like when I was throwing what I was throwing, I was pitching. Right. You're getting a running start in crow hopping.
Starting point is 00:41:40 So like the gap between what we can pitch is not significant. Right. Like you might still throw harder than me but it's not by much and then last night i thought it was a little funny that like i mean yeah you lose you lose whatever it was 77 to 73 if you went out there and threw 68 again i would have been like yeah yeah for sure yeah but it's like to me 77 73 i also i mean i i never played uh baseball at a high level i cash cashed out right before high school. I'm sure people who played high school and college or whatever have a different standard.
Starting point is 00:42:09 But like 73 miles an hour to me at the age of 30 is pretty fucking legit. To roll out of bed and do that. I mean, I haven't played organized baseball since 2010, I think was the last year that I pitched in a league. They came to us with this idea like a week ago. I think was the last year that like I pitched in a league. Um, they came to us with this idea like a week ago. There was no time to like, all right,
Starting point is 00:42:32 now I'm going to like do like a shoulder program or I'm going to get like on this throwing program. It's just like, Hey, uh, I know that you are in, I haven't, I haven't been in the gym period to work out even just like regardless in months.
Starting point is 00:42:40 But, but honestly, like the, the bigger thing here is like, yeah, of course you fucking haven't because you're a 30 year old man with like a right like a well our job was to throw baseballs i would understand it no i'm talking about like just like stay in shape i'm not talking to like for pitching just like stay in regular ass shape uh i haven't done that in months so
Starting point is 00:42:59 i i expected low 70s and that's what i. But I think what I was saying all along yesterday was, he's not going to throw 90. He's not going to throw, like, whatever he was bragging about last year with, like, the speed pitch. I was like, it's going to be a lot closer to me than that. Which is what ended up playing out. Yeah, what I said was going to happen. You also have to understand that, like, the internet's not looking for new ones.
Starting point is 00:43:23 Dude, you can't call yourself the Rocket. Dude, I mean, the whole Rocket thing started as a fucking joke to bust Dallas Braden's balls last year. It's not like some big thing that needs to be taken seriously. The Rocket has never meant velocity to me. The Rocket's about spitting hot fire and getting people riled up and cutting wrestling promos and playing the heel and i know i already know the people oh you're it's a it's walking back i'm not making excuses i never said i was gonna beat him i said it was gonna be close and it was close he didn't
Starting point is 00:43:54 throw 90 whatever he threw 77 yeah that is actually kind of funny that like the the the difference of expectations really actually is much bigger well you can tell the people but at the end of expectations really actually is much bigger from him than you. Well, you can tell the people that. But at the end of the day, people aren't going to be, like, I bet a lot of people tuning in knew somewhat of the history, didn't know the full history, didn't know what numbers had been hit before, didn't know what the circumstances were before. All they know is there was some sort of pitching challenge,
Starting point is 00:44:19 one guy pitched faster than the other, and they're going to, you know, that's it. So I can understand that reaction, you know. You can't, you can't be asking the same commenters. We're talking about who are, you know, are like 15 year olds with man tits. You also can't expect them to like, you know, dive deep into the intricacies of this rivalry. They're just going to be like fast, slow, whatever. You can pick out the people that have just never like thrown a baseball in their life. Like you can't just like, I wasn't going to say a goddamn word. You can't sit there for like an hour and a half,
Starting point is 00:44:47 two hours and be like, all right, now throw as hard as you can. Like, that's just not, it actually almost hurt you. I think having to go at the very end, just all in a,
Starting point is 00:44:54 in a, in a burst like that. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, like, like I still, for what I thought,
Starting point is 00:45:00 like my shoulder was capable of at this age with no preparation, I was like 73, I'll take it. Whatever. I mean, mean absolutely that's what listen if you if you're out here and you can throw fucking you know 78 80 and you want to talk shit okay go ahead i just don't i would imagine that much like all internet commenting and trolling and hating i don't think there's many people out there am i right i mean is that like 73 to me is like goddamn it's not for a regular person plus like commenting and trolling and hating. I don't think there's many people out there. Am I right? I mean, is that like 73 to me? It was like,
Starting point is 00:45:27 God damn. It's not for a regular person. Plus like, like Dave was saying this morning on breakfast, how, I mean, the gun was a little slow, whatever. It's,
Starting point is 00:45:37 it's all relative when we're both on the same gun. Um, but the amount of people that were trying to equate fastball velocity of 30 year old bloggers to like self-worth is insane. Like you have no purpose in life. But also the flip side is like when all they are looking like from your content, a lot of the discussion is about that.
Starting point is 00:46:05 And like the persona, the jokes and for that. Sure, but not for me. For him. His videos were like, hey, look at me. My video was taken by someone who was just there and then posted it. Well, I mean, yeah. During the actual challenge, Dave Portnoy kept saying it. Being like, I mean, this is the World Series. Every single pitch was the final out of the World Series.
Starting point is 00:46:23 He took it significantly more seriously than I did. But yeah, it all started. It literally all started. It's tough to play that card because it's just like, well, he took it seriously, but he delivered. So whatever, you know. Sure. Yeah, I'm not like, congrats to White Sox.
Starting point is 00:46:37 Dave, I said he could throw faster than me. This was never a matter of, I can throw faster than you. No, you can't. Like, let's fucking have a showdown it was literally people here being like hey you know it would be a good idea for content if you guys did a speed and i was like sure too because i i was just like what what is you know i put myself in a no-win situation yeah you did where i knew going to win everything to lose is always a precarious spot and he was gonna into it that he was going to throw harder than me. I do tip my cap for even engaging in it because you don't –
Starting point is 00:47:09 you were fucked either way because if you said no, like listen, he's going to throw harder than me and the way this has been built up, I'm going to look like an asshole. But if you said no, that would have been the story. Right. The whole storyline would have been, well, the rocket's too scared. So you had to do it. You entered into something that was a no win.
Starting point is 00:47:23 I was like this is – He had everything to gain, nothing to lose basically because there's already that that does suck that's a that's a feeling that i don't think people can understand here because in their world it's just like well whatever it's a funny video and if you lose you lose keep moving but it's like well you know i agree to do this thing for content now it's gonna like bot you know it's gonna be a nuisance and like yeah it's like all right whatever like no but but no you know everyone else moves on. Like Dave Portnoy and everyone, whatever.
Starting point is 00:47:46 Okay, dude. Good telethon. We don't care. And you're the one left to deal with all the fucking chirps. Yeah, I can wear it. But those people chirping, they've been the same people chirping about everything. They don't like about you. Yeah, it's whatever. I mean, the people that hate me were never going to consume my content anyway.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Oh, no, no, no. I disagree with that. Those are the people who consume the most really oh i mean it's the old howard stern like people who like you listen for five minutes people who hate you pretend they want to they might watch it but they're not gonna like sit through like a two-hour episode of starting nine or whatever you'd be surprised man the amount of people i have hating on me who will reference something that happened at you know the one hour 45 minute mark of a podcast. It's like, well, yeah, finish the whole fucking thing, bud.
Starting point is 00:48:28 So whatever. Yeah. I mean, I know, I know what you're saying. It's like, those are the people you're not trying to win over. Yeah. Like at the end of the day, uh, like it was a content idea to, to generate funds for cyber Monday to learn whatever grand that an hour or something, thousand dollars. I, I agreed to do
Starting point is 00:48:46 it knowing that it would be a good angle for content. You should have negotiated a cut. I should have. 10% of the hour. Taylor from Long Island is on the line. He's got your back. What do you got, Taylor? What's up, guys? Awesome, awesome content. Last night
Starting point is 00:49:01 I was laughing my ass off when Dave threw 86 miles an hour, which was the funniest shit I've ever seen because we all know that doesn't make any sense. That was the funniest. It registered 86 before the ball left his hand. I know, it was so funny. And he thought it was the real deal. He's like, fuck you, screaming in the camera and everyone else is laughing
Starting point is 00:49:19 because they know it was rigged or whatever. Did we figure out, was that just like someone like pushing a button on the gun? I don't know. I think it was like when people were moving in the background. They were so rumored. But like, how the fuck would that
Starting point is 00:49:28 register at 86 miles an hour? Either way, that was a rumor. I heard it was because of people screaming. The louder the people screamed, the faster the pitch was, apparently.
Starting point is 00:49:37 That's what I heard. Huh. And everyone was dead quiet when I was pitching. We should have been walking and screaming. But yeah, I mean, that was the name of the game was the content so yeah jared you uh you know it sucks because you come off the bench and kind of like you haven't thrown a baseball in forever and you throw 73 which like you know i played college
Starting point is 00:49:59 ball i i like laboring surgery i can't throw anymore. They're harder than me. And I was like, I was like wondering like, how fast can I throw right now? I probably like 65 if the most maybe. But I have one more question about the Moustakas signings. Yeah. Are you surprised about that? The Reds get him for four years, 64.
Starting point is 00:50:19 What are the Reds doing? No, the Reds are going for it. Yeah. Yeah. I think, are you a Reds fan? No, the Reds are going for it? Holy shit, dude. I don't think they're done. I was really impressed.
Starting point is 00:50:25 Are you a Reds fan? I'm not. I'm a Yankee fan, but baseball in general. Okay, yeah. So if you're a Yankee fan, then here's the tie-in. I think they still go out and get Didi. I think that the Reds are actually going to. I think too.
Starting point is 00:50:36 Yeah, they keep inching up and inching up. I don't think that. The Central's no joke, Tom. You got a lot of work to do ahead of you. Well, I think they're going to put Moustakis at second base. Second. Yeah, so like up the middle. If you have Didi, Moustakis, like that's, I mean.
Starting point is 00:50:51 And hopefully Votto has like a bounce back year, and then you have Suarez at third. That would feel fucking lit. Yes. And then they got the Punisher. That's going to be a team that, I mean, they're going to be a decent ball club. They're going to be a decent ball club, especially if DD ends up there.
Starting point is 00:51:09 And I feel like he's a guy that feels like he has a lot to prove. I mean, you're coming off a 75 win year. Yep. You got the Cubs, Brewers, Cardinals all ahead of you. I say they fit well because the Brewers could take a step back. You don't know that. The Cubs are not in a transition phase, but you've fired your manager.
Starting point is 00:51:28 I could see the Reds having, if they sign Didi, pencil me in for a winning record next year in Cincinnati. Which I guess is fine. They have Bauer and Castillo. It's just like that. They need more of that. They need more pitching to compete
Starting point is 00:51:43 with those big boys in the Central. Castillo is nasty. I feel like Castillo's where they need more of that. They need more pitching to kind of compete with those big, big boys in the central. Right. Yeah. Castillo's nasty. I feel like Castillo is going to be a guy that, uh, he had a mess second half, but that's a guy that's going to be challenging your boy to Grom for that
Starting point is 00:51:55 side. Oh, let's set it down. Thanks for the call. Taylor. That is, if he does what he does over a full season. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:01 Like, then he would be like Jacob to Grom two, two years in a row. Yeah, sure. Yeah. Listen, that crownrom two years in a row. Yeah, sure. Listen, that crown is his until it's not. And I don't see him slowing down anytime soon. He kind of backed into a Cy Young. I would not say that at all.
Starting point is 00:52:12 He kind of backed into it. I would not say that at all. I would say he finished strong and dominated when everybody else fizzled out. Yeah. You know what kind of sucks about this whole radar gun thing? What's that? People in the office today are looking at me like I got diagnosed with like a terminal disease.
Starting point is 00:52:28 Like they're looking at me like, how are you doing, dude? Dude, I'm fine. Yeah. I mean, I had a pity party last night. I didn't leave the office until 11 o'clock last night. I sat at my desk until in silence, until 11 PM. It was me, Mantis and the cleaning. Oh,
Starting point is 00:52:45 that's when you know, that's when you're going to have one of those moments. You're like, all right, time to like pull yourself up by the bootstraps and get back on the fucking horse because you can't be sitting around with Mantis and the cleaning people upset that you threw 73 miles an hour. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:56 I sat. Well, I mean, what do you think the difference would like if you, if you threw 75 versus 77, you think people would have been like, ah, all right.
Starting point is 00:53:03 Like where, where's the cutoff that made people, you think it's just when, just when it and loss like if it was 77 over 78 people were coming themselves to see me lose at anything so which is a uh it's not like a spin zone like like i remember people you know you try to be like well yeah like i'm the bad guy and whatever and it's like yeah the the reality of the matter is you wish you would want it or you wish people didn't like want to like put the heat on you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:28 But there is some validity to the fact of like, you know, you don't boo nobody and you don't, you don't get excited for, for a lot last night. You got it. That's when you got a Pat Riley, that shit.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Just go. No, I'm letting them have a moment because I know that like, once I thought of that comparison of, I couldn't say a fucking thing last year until you understand the feeling. Yeah. You understand where they're coming from. I absolutely let it rip.
Starting point is 00:53:54 And I was, you got to soak it in. Yep. This was there. You know, it's that self-awareness that I think is, uh, that's how you can give a joke and take a joke.
Starting point is 00:54:03 You gotta, you gotta understand this. I was happy for them. I was like, you finally got your moment. I mean, That's how you can give a joke and take a joke. You got to understand the circumstances here. I was happy for them. I was like, you finally got your moment. I mean, I've been winning for a long time. And then you just got to go back to, you got to resume. You need a big year for the Red Sox.
Starting point is 00:54:15 I mean, we're going to San Diego next week. We're going to be doing interviews at the winter meetings. And we're going to Puerto Rico. We're going to be doing some content there. What did Dallas say? I didn't see him active on Twitter or anything. He posted a video of one of my warm-up pitches and made it look like that was one of my
Starting point is 00:54:33 legit pitches. He posted a fucking video of a 64 mile an hour warm-up pitch. Yeah, because the first few you were just loosening up. That's a dick move. Nick from California is on the line. What do you got on the OG commenter world, Nick? It is a dog day! What's going on, man?
Starting point is 00:54:54 What's going on, man? Hey, I just wanted OG commenter wise, do you guys remember diarrhea blah blah like 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, do you remember diarrhea at all what you his name was diarrhea and then he had like one two three four five and he was a san diego chargers fan oh and he got like a million likes every time he posted he was like i'm about
Starting point is 00:55:19 to go crush some ipas and watch the chargers didn Yeah, didn't one time he got, um, he got like a guest blog. I think we did like a challenge and if the Chargers won, he got to write a blog and that's what we did. We put it up and he was like the commenter hero. Yeah. I was just, I was just thinking back and you know, he came to mind. So, you know, he was a legend. If you, if the thing is, if you, if you ask me, Hey, do you remember diarrhea from the old comment section?
Starting point is 00:55:43 It was almost exclusively talking about shitting. But yeah, that San Diego Chargers dude, he was, for whatever reason, the guys just loved him. I would love, we tried to do that. We did the player haters ball on KC Radio where we had Wilbraham and Numero 2. I'd love to run it back again. I just don't know. There's nobody who's like of note. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:02 Everyone is so anonymous kind of. But I've thought about like, you know, I would love, it's all just anonymous kind of, but I, but I've thought about like, you know, I would love to let one of like the, the people on Reddit who hate me, like, all right, come on the show.
Starting point is 00:56:10 Yeah. And make now, you hear, you know, I'm going to give you the platform. Like, what do you, what do you say now?
Starting point is 00:56:16 Right. And to see where it goes. I just don't know if it's like worth giving them the platform or like, I don't want to sit there and just like debate them about like my divorce and stuff. Cause they talk, you know what I mean? Like if there, if there was something tangible that I thought was good content or like would be a funny sort of showdown, I think, I think I would do it, but there was just nobody. If there was one person who stood out or someone who they were like, you know, this is the leader of like the, the, the commenters. I think I do. Do you have people that are like specific to your
Starting point is 00:56:45 blogs i i don't really look at the commenters like the actual comments on the blog anymore i don't like twitter accounts that yeah that hate me and people like the same twitter people coming at me but uh especially once we once it was like the gold commenting with like i mean there's there's no there's not the same yeah i also don't really blog much anymore so there's not the same. Yeah. I also don't really blog much anymore, so there's not, like, many common sections. Are you looking at, like, the same people? It's like, if I write a blog, I'll see the same two people on every blog.
Starting point is 00:57:15 One of them's a big Red Sox fan, one of them's a big Yankee fan. So it's kind of like them two just debating each other on every blog. I think it's, like, Rafi Bigstick is the Red Sox fan, and then, like, John D. is the Yankee fan. So it's like,i Big Stick is the Red Sox fan. And then like John D is the Yankee fan. So it's like, I'll post a blog. They will both check in every single blog.
Starting point is 00:57:31 I kind of like, that's what I like where it's like, I need my regulars. Yeah. I need my regulars. And then everyone else wants to comment. You like some of them, you don't like some of them,
Starting point is 00:57:38 but there is like almost a little like community in there. But once it became, you know, like just randoms on every single. See like that's the person that I would like have on like section 10 yeah raffy big stick i think he's he's for sure bipolar like he'll check in and like he'll think that like i'm the greatest thing in the world and then other times he'd be like i could do your job yeah all right so then like if if you're that passionate about the red socks and barstool then it would be cool to have like a commenter on as a guest
Starting point is 00:58:03 yeah he would be the lead candidate. That to me is like the, you know, that's the old internet. That's it. It just ain't that way anymore where it's like, you're, you're,
Starting point is 00:58:11 you're not going to get the reaction or the content you think you're gonna, like there was a time where it would be like, yeah, yeah. Like there's, we're really, there's a little community and we'll like talk about it.
Starting point is 00:58:21 Now it's so clearly like media company trolls, you know? I know i mean we we kind of have done not necessarily like commenters but we've done like random people of the internet like what we have on as guests before like whoa the like the josie mcfly dude yeah yeah yeah that yeah yeah right right that's that's that's the the the best version you're gonna get of that yeah like he he went viral That's the best version you're going to get of that now. He went viral. Those are the best to me. That's a little different because he's clearly trying to film himself and come up with a vlog and all that. But when you can nail those people who went completely viral, completely unknowingly.
Starting point is 00:58:59 I was just a fan in the crowd. The guy who catches the— That was a big night. That was unbelievable. Yeah, because he went viral. His reaction was incredible. And then the same episode. Do you know catches that's a big night the that was unbelievable yeah because he went viral incredible and then the same episode do you remember it was two summers ago the kid at fenway park that threw out the first pitch and hit the camera guy yeah we had him on those that's it those are the best gets you know if you can track down those people who are like overnight famous the movie yeah yeah do you remember the scene where the little kid is singing the national anthem?
Starting point is 00:59:28 You got him? And then he has the leg and the cast and he runs the basses. Okay. That's him. Really? Mm-hmm. Sure.
Starting point is 00:59:38 I'm pretty sure he's a Jimmy Fun kid. I think. Here's White Sox Dave. The champ is here. the winner of of the uh telethon pitch showdown how you feeling bud i'm very sore are you i was asking him like how's the arm i i mean i would be in shambles my arm is fine it's my back yep my back is so sore i feel like i got hit by a car. And my hamstrings are sore. I went,
Starting point is 01:00:07 I fucking decorated a Christmas tree. I got sore from bending over and picking things up and shit. But Kevin, if you were throwing the ball, I would be in the hospital. Yeah. It's a, what'd you end up throwing? 20 pitches?
Starting point is 01:00:16 20. But I threw maybe five or seven prior to that too. So I don't call 30 throughout the day. I mean, but those are like, it's a long ending of work. Effort pitches too. You're putting your whole body
Starting point is 01:00:28 into those things. I saw you went out and celebrated last night. You were drinking a little whiskey. I went to Sean's place. Latham, he made an awesome meal for me. Thank you, Sean. No one wanted to go out. He made a meal for you?
Starting point is 01:00:42 He did a $20 shelf. He had all the shit out already. He's i got this like leftovers you want something like fuck yeah i haven't eaten all day so um i went there and then there was like a irish pub across the street from me i went and got a few drinks alone like a loser hey listen so you know everybody gets humbled quick whatever um i thought it was fun though it was great content yeah. I thought it was fun, though. It was great content. It was loud. I mean, the funniest thing, though, you really thought you threw 86, right?
Starting point is 01:01:10 No, I didn't. Yes, you did. No, I didn't. Come on. No, no. Come on. You were going double middles to the camera. No, that was on the 80.
Starting point is 01:01:19 That was on the 80. The 86, you were going bananas. I don't think I was going 86. I watched it. I watched it. All right, all right. It was very funny. I don't think I was going 86. I watched it. It was very funny. I did not think I threw 86 after throwing 77, whatever I was the whole time.
Starting point is 01:01:31 That's too big of a jump, too big of a variance. I know that. So if I was doing that after the 86, which I can't... That's playing to the crowd a little bit. It made for a funny moment. Dan would be like, no, no, no! He threw 86! That's the Kenny Powers thing.
Starting point is 01:01:45 Fuck you! Well, it was good content. Raised a bunch of money for a great cause known as the bottom line of Barstool Sports. Dave's Sports Wallet. Are we putting to bed the speed challenge?
Starting point is 01:02:02 I'll do it whenever, but yeah. I guess. This was never a thing to me until dan brought it up hey well no i mean this has been a thing for it was a thing in last winter yeah and then for some reason they were like hey you know it'd be a good idea to rehash this out of fucking nowhere when right well it was funny because the uh during the the whole build up, the setup of the thing and the testing of
Starting point is 01:02:27 the guns and everybody, Marty was coming over and trying and Blattman was throwing. Blattman is probably throwing double the amount of pitches.
Starting point is 01:02:34 He's got some gas that I didn't expect though. He can throw. Ellie was walking around looking at the whole scene. She was just like,
Starting point is 01:02:43 she was disgusted. She was like, why doesn't everybody just pull their dicks out and start measuring them? That's what it was. This is so fucking stupid. But there's a reason why. It's like the dumb meathead barstool guys and the readers and the viewers are just like, this, who throws faster? Watch, this is good.
Starting point is 01:03:02 And like, if you're not in that world it was probably like this is so the dumbest thing of all time how many do we get numbers on the viewers on twitter it was like 250 000 that's fucking wild like what other company can do the simplest of things we built up a net around of of a fucking picture of dave portnoy that was posed on the bear it was all dave you guys were throwing dave wasn't participating. The entire backdrop was Portnoy faces. With north of 10,000 people live on multiple platforms. Crazy. It was wild.
Starting point is 01:03:32 To see who can throw. It was basically like, Ellie equated it to a dick measuring contest, but doing a speed pitch without any preparation is like doing a dick measuring contest of just flaccid pieces. It's true. It's like this is not what your body is capable of throwing. It's basically what you are capable of rolling out of bed and doing.
Starting point is 01:03:56 After I was done, I was like one of the last people in the office because I was trying to talk. It could have been an IT guy guy walking by or janitor like hey you want to go get a beer while I go get a beer and Jeff Lowe was doing some video shit and it was like me and him and maybe a handful of other people and I went and changed and threw on new clothes and my shirt. Because you were sweating like a
Starting point is 01:04:18 motherfucker. Yeah you felt that it was soaked. I mean you could have wrung your jacket out. And I asked Jeff I'm like dude it's soaked with sweat do Do you want to hold this? And he did out of curiosity. He's like, holy fuck. It was like five pounds of sweat. I mean, I know you were gassed up and it was exercise, but
Starting point is 01:04:34 holy shit. It's bad. I know. I mean, the coating of Tiger Bomb head to toe could not help. I didn't put Tiger Bomb on until this morning. I didn't use any last night. What? I used none. I didn't use any last night. What? I used none. I didn't use a single ounce of it last night.
Starting point is 01:04:47 What was that smell? Why was there grease all over your elbow? That was sweat. You did Tiger Bomb? Oh, yeah. Big Tiger Bomb guy. You had nothing on your elbow? I had nothing on, no.
Starting point is 01:04:56 All the hair was all like. Yeah, probably. Probably. Fucking gross. I lost probably five pounds of water weight during that. Like five pounds of water weight. that like 5 pounds of water weight actually I saw your quote this morning
Starting point is 01:05:10 about seeing yourself on camera and being like I look fat I looked very skinny you look untrimmed these days I told you I went to the doctor on Wednesday and they were like you've lost 20 pounds and I was like Jesus Christ how long? Eight months.
Starting point is 01:05:25 Probably since spring training. That's not good. No. You've got to bulk up, dude. Let's get some milkshakes up in this bitch. Yeah, I'm losing 20 pounds. Because Chief in Chicago, he got fat too.
Starting point is 01:05:41 And we both blame it on this job. Oh yeah, once you get the job, you get fat. My favorite was when Dan dan was still uh doing crossfit he was like nah i'm gonna i'm gonna stay in shape and me and keith were like yeah okay bud and we'll see about that he made it through football who was you said that right yeah i mean he was talking about how long how much longer thin cat's gonna last and he was you know like if you can make it through most of the football right you're probably in the clear i don't't see you getting fat for the spring. I mean, you can cheat over Christmas week, and it's not going to add fat just for a few cheat meals over the holidays or anything, but he looks good.
Starting point is 01:06:14 All right, so the telethon is over. White Sox Dave with the 77-mile-an-hour fastball is the winner. We're going to hit our first break. Thanks, Dave. Appreciate it. When we come back, we'll take some calls. We'll get into topics of the day and more here on a dog day Tuesday. Clancy and Karabas, let's go.
Starting point is 01:06:34 Do you want me to stay in? I'm a survivor. I'm a survivor. I'm not going to give up. I'm not going to stop. I'm going to work harder. I'm a survivor. I'm going to make it. I'm a survivor. I'm not gonna survive her I'm gonna work harder I'm gonna survive her I'm gonna make it
Starting point is 01:06:46 I won't survive her She won't survive her But if we is without you I'm in hell and you're not That ups was real When I hit it Bounce back You ain't getting sex
Starting point is 01:06:56 Last night took a hell But tonight I bounce back Boy, I've been broke as hell Cast a check You gotta laugh about it, Rocket You gotta laugh about it Like Rocket. You got to laugh about it. Like I said, it's closer mentality. Last night, I gave up a walk-off home run to lose the World Series.
Starting point is 01:07:13 You got to shake it off. Listen, man. I told you last night. I did it with the combine a decade ago. You got to just be able to laugh at these things. The Kurt Gibson walk-off that Dennis Eckersley gave up is like, that haunted him forever. Still does. Still a Hall of Famer.
Starting point is 01:07:29 Yeah, no doubt. Still a Hall of Famer. Still won a World Series. You do have to be able to laugh at the fact that there are thousands, maybe there was, what, 250,000 people watched last night that are hanging on, sitting on the edge of their seat waiting for you to throw a baseball.
Starting point is 01:07:47 It's hilarious. That's why this company is great. So last night took an L and tonight we bounce back. The story that drove me fucking bananas yesterday. Is this the people versus chairs thing? No, that's the easiest debate I've ever had in my life. It's the chairs. Not even close. It's not even close.
Starting point is 01:08:06 Yeah. I was counting it. The big argument in the office, it overshadowed the pitching challenge. I mean, did anyone say people? Oh, yes. Who the fuck said people? Those are the people that I want to know.
Starting point is 01:08:15 Oh, yes. Identify yourself. Not only. Who said people? There were two people who said chairs. I know Captain Kahn's in. He tried to walk it back. Captain Kahn's, he fucking turtled like a little bitch boy. wrong who was the other uh liz was going nuts over our western white male chair
Starting point is 01:08:33 bubble now we were living in a western bubble of of of affluence and white uh white you know prosperity i mean embarrassment of chairs it's not even just like about people that are wealthy enough to have multiple chairs in their house. Like think about all like restaurants, hotels, stadiums, stadiums, trains,
Starting point is 01:08:54 concert halls, auditoriums, venues, like schools. I counted like my, my parents' house. It's just the two of them. I counted like 11 chairs and that wasn't counting like
Starting point is 01:09:05 the deck chairs in the shed stacked up yeah the patio chairs and then we have folding chairs downstairs just in case like we were watching like a close it's not even close i mean i think there are don't don't get me wrong there are places in africa and and liz kept yelling about haiti like sure those people are not sitting around a dining room table. They're not sitting in multiple leather recliners. But I bet you those people have a plastic fucking lawn chair. I bet you they do have a chair. And even if they
Starting point is 01:09:33 don't, for every poor person that lives in a hut sitting on the ground, there are normal people. Chairs that are in warehouses. There are two chairs sitting right there. An abundance of chairs. Those chairs in the lobby.
Starting point is 01:09:51 The chairs on the train. The chairs on the bus. Chairs in the studios. Look at just stadiums in general. It's like the Mets have capacity. I don't even know the Mets' capacity because they never fucking sell out. There's 55,000 people. It's never more than like 35,000 full. There there's just 20 000 extra chairs sitting around doing nothing in one stadium
Starting point is 01:10:10 didn't somebody google it and like there's there's 8 billion people in the world but there's like 250 billion so it is funny because everyone tried to do this if you google how many chairs are in the world it's one of those like q aura quora i don't know how to say it it's like a it's like a yahoo answers sort of thing yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah. And someone wrote, I think there's 200 to 800 billion chairs. It was just like a random guy. So everyone's like,
Starting point is 01:10:29 look at this. And it was just a dude on a message board saying that. Just like trying to guess. Yeah. But I mean, it's not even close. And I understand that there are definitely
Starting point is 01:10:38 some countries in the world where they might not have the greatest quality chairs, but they've got chairs. I mean, there was a caveman who fucking- They don't just wake up and stand up all day. Right, and again, even if there are plenty of people
Starting point is 01:10:51 who have no chair in their life at all, there is normal people, there's rich people, down to poor people who still have multiple chairs all over the fucking place. Like, you could have an average income home in the United states of america and that person might own 20 chairs there are literally homeless people outside of our office who have their own chairs byoc yeah and they go home and they sit i almost got grabbed by a homeless person
Starting point is 01:11:19 last night walking home like complimentary or no no like scary oh i was i was walking to grand central and um it was up against a building like um boxes it looked like it looked like just like boxes but it was a dude was inside almost like a coffin he made himself like a coffin of boxes to like standing inside no laying down and i i thought it was just boxes so i was walking pretty close to it and all of a sudden, a hand popped out. So it would have grabbed my ankle had he decided to do it. And I just was like, I just redirected my course. But it was damn close because I didn't think I was walking by a person.
Starting point is 01:11:55 So he was probably like, get the fuck away from my bed. It was covered in a tarp that was like his blanket. And I was just like, I thought I was going to get pulled under the bed. It was like a blanket. And I was just like, ah! I thought I was going to get pulled under the bed. It was like a monster under the bed. Yeah. So you have to be, we kind of get lulled into a false sense of security with homeless people because we almost think of homeless people as like when you go to a haunted house. And it's like, they can get in your face. They can be all scary, but they can't touch you.
Starting point is 01:12:20 They can't touch you. Homeless people can touch you. They definitely can. And it's actually surprising they don't more often. For as many homeless people are out there they definitely can and it's actually surprising they don't more often yeah for as many homeless people who are out there who are either like on drugs
Starting point is 01:12:27 or like fucked up or just crazy or just angry because they're homeless super desperate yeah that they don't just like you know what
Starting point is 01:12:34 I'm gonna lunge at this guy who's probably got 50 chairs at home fuck him you know I'm taking all your chairs it's pretty rare that there's incidents considering the circumstances
Starting point is 01:12:43 I've only seen one when it's cold when it's snowing, or when it's baking hot, I would lose my cool. Fuck it. I've only seen one homeless person outburst. And I don't think that there was any physical contact, but this dude
Starting point is 01:12:55 was chasing someone down the street because they wouldn't give him money. Yeah, he can't. He's like, please, please, please. And there's like 50 people around and you're honing in on that one guy that you asked for money and that dude's gotta be like come on of all fucking people i last night or yesterday afternoon i was walking back from right right by the garden and there was this homeless dude who was so fucked up he had his eyes closed and he
Starting point is 01:13:21 was dancing and he was like imagine imagine if you were to dance while in a wrestling ring, and you're, like, bouncing off the ropes. He was bouncing, like, every which way. So he was, like, all over the map. And this guy comes up and out of Penn Station, him and his buddy, got off the train, and he's, like, smoking a cigarette. And this guy is doing this thing, and he in the but like the most suave smooth he like swim moved over him and just kept smoking his cigarette it was like a goddamn dance routine
Starting point is 01:13:52 the way he like evaded this guy and to the point that i stopped him and i was like bro that was super smooth you went up to him yeah i mean i was walking like kind of right alongside him yeah and he was like smoking his say he's like, man, you ain't coming at me. And I was like, do you know that dude? Was that planned? It was the most choreographed whoopsie-doo. Chris Berman would have been like, what? It was the slickest.
Starting point is 01:14:16 This dude is a New York lifer. That's what I'm saying. He was totally unfazed. If you live in New York long enough, that's kind of a skill that you inherit right away is disassociation with the homeless and the very first thing you have to do is get over like get over the sob story it's sad but like if you're gonna give money or stop for every single person you ain't gonna ever you're never gonna get anywhere like when i grew up in boston uh whenever
Starting point is 01:14:38 i would go to like the red sox games with my dad i had like my go-to homeless guy like i like i always ask my dad for like a dollar to give to this one homeless guy. He just had a nub. I think he had a left hand. No, he had a right hand, but not a left hand. He just had a nub on his left hand. He would be sitting right in front of the entrance to the subway. I'd always like that same dude.
Starting point is 01:14:57 Every time I'd give him a dollar, I felt so bad. But then you come to New York City, and it's like, I can't feed a community. I mean, come on. There's only so much you can do. i told you the story about the fucking homeless person this year like when i like i don't i don't fucks with the the new york city homeless people but in boston i'll help my people out okay i was i went to a dunkin donuts there was a woman outside of the dunkin donuts and she was asking for money i'm not gonna give you money but like
Starting point is 01:15:24 i'll get you something oh yes yeah and then i was like, I'm not going to give you money, but like, I'll get you something. Oh yes. Yeah. And then I was like, what do you want? And then she gave me like an order and she like, what? Like it was like a food item.
Starting point is 01:15:31 I went in, I bought the food item and a bottle of water. I come out and she's on a cell phone and I, and I was like, what the fuck? And she was like, Oh, it's for emergencies only.
Starting point is 01:15:41 And I was like, the emergency is that you can't afford a fucking bacon, egg, and cheese. The emergency is you're starving to death. Yeah. And then someone messaged me later being like, sometimes there's government-issued phones for the homeless, whatever. Sure, fine. If you are able to sign up for some sort of government assistance, you ain't as homeless
Starting point is 01:16:01 as the other people out there. Someone is on the other end of that phone that knows you that could help you. That's trying to help you. There are people who are truly fucked. I still gave her the sandwich, but I was like, I'm giving this fucking bottle of water to some other homeless person. I'm taking his water. Yeah, I hope that bacon makes you nice and
Starting point is 01:16:17 thirsty so you can think about what you've done. You have the cell phone. You could easily fix your situation right now. I'm going to go home to my chairs fuck you i mean like i i have no problem helping the homeless but when the homeless take advantage that's why that's like the the bums at fordham who wouldn't eat the white castle that's bad for my cholesterol well beggars can't be you're literally a beggar you can't be a chooser there's one dude near my apartment in new york city that was kind of like hovering around
Starting point is 01:16:45 like uh like one of the blocks that's like two blocks from my apartment and i was going to get a pizza and he was like hey do you have any change and i was like uh i was like do you want a slice of pizza and he's like i'm sick of pizza it's like you can't be picky you are homeless you can't be sick of anything other than not eating food i'm sick of starvation so fucking eat there's sick of pizza there's another kid in boston i basically like adopted him uh he rockets about the kid it was the night of it was the night of like the david ortiz roast at uh the house of blues yeah that was dope um and this kid couldn't have been more than like 14 and like he comes up to me and he's homeless yeah he's like yeah that's a little different yeah he's like do you have any money like can i ask some chain i was like just fucking like there was like a dominoes down the
Starting point is 01:17:37 street i was like just like i'll get you a pizza so then we go to dominoes i buy him a walk together with him like yeah yeah yeah so we go to dominoes i buy buy him a pizza. So you like walk together with him? Yeah. Yeah. So we go to Domino's. I buy him a pizza. And I'm talking to him. I was like, why the fuck are you homeless, dude? You're too young to be homeless. And he was like, my parents died. And then I went to go live with my aunt. And then she got on drugs.
Starting point is 01:17:59 And I didn't want to be around that. So now I just kind of live on the street. But during the day, I go to the library. And I trying to like get into school and this and that i was like good for you so like every time like i would go back to boston i knew like where like on the street yeah i just like dropped them off like a bunch of shit like a bag of gatorades or whatever i don't know where he is now but uh shout out denzel dude that's some heavy shit. Yeah. You know, Superdusher BC, he raised a kid. He raised an Indian kid named Om Prasad. I remember that.
Starting point is 01:18:29 I remember that. Didn't you get like a picture of him? Oh, yeah. He used to get like an annual picture. Was there something weird where like he stopped hearing? Yeah, no. Om Prasad. Well, first of all, it's a scam.
Starting point is 01:18:37 And Om Prasad is, I said for a long time, he's just a dude from Brooklyn who lives around the corner. Yeah. But Om Prasad's dead now. You think so? Well, all of a sudden. Did they tell him he's dead? Yeah. All of a sudden he moved on from Om Prasad's dead now. You think so? Well, all of a sudden... Did they tell him he's dead? Yeah, all of a sudden he moved on from Om Prasad
Starting point is 01:18:47 and it was just like, you have a new kid now. You have a new kid. Yeah. What's the new kid's name? Do you know your new kid? He's in the zone. He doesn't...
Starting point is 01:18:56 I mean, it was Om Prasad and then it turned into some other fucking Indian kid. But no explanation. He wasn't listening. I thought he was ignoring us because he was pissed that his adopted kid died. So, Om Prasad's dead, but who's the new Om Prasad? Prince Das.
Starting point is 01:19:13 Prince Das! Is his name Prince, or is he an actual prince? No, it's just a name. I mean, I have to pay for him, so I don't think he's a prince. You should be able to name him. I'll ask. You never got any sort of update on, I'll just say what the cause of death was for Omarzad,
Starting point is 01:19:32 because he's fucking dead. No, nuts. Remember when we called? Yeah, that was unbelievable. And then we tried to track him down. We did a KFC radio mail time. We called up. We had it on speakerphone.
Starting point is 01:19:41 And I was like, I'm looking for some answers here. And we think this kid's dead. And they were just like, sir, we don't do that. And they have reverse customer service. Everyone dealing with the kids in India is an American here. So it's like some lady named Marjorie who's in Indiana trying to be like, well, we went to his house to deliver the water, and he just wasn't there and there was like no forwarding address for him. Because he's
Starting point is 01:20:07 not a real person. It was probably a genocide. How much money do you think you spent on this over the years? Oh god. It was like $20 a month. That's a lot. $20 a month is like, you think about all your commitments. It's probably been like 10 years. Probably been like 10 years.
Starting point is 01:20:23 That's unbelievable. That's a lot of money. Like, I feel like... They asked for more. Like, around Christmas? Jesus Christ. I feel like if you're financially supporting this child, they should at least be able to provide a death certificate if he did die.
Starting point is 01:20:34 Yeah. I mean, I'd like them to keep track of it. Let me know if my child dies. Yeah, give me an obituary. Come on. Yeah. Let me write a eulogy. Fuck, he probably didn't have any chairs.
Starting point is 01:20:44 Or he probably did. He probably was sitting on a Lazy Boy recliner because all the money he gave him. Did he send you letters? Yes. Yeah. Let me write a eulogy. Fuck. He probably didn't have any chairs. Or he probably did. He probably was sitting on a Lazy Boy recliner because of all the money he gave him. Did he send you letters? Yes. Yeah. But the pictures were like, this is a grown ass man from the Bronx, man. Like he had a mustache and everything. Well, I mean, I took care of him through puberty.
Starting point is 01:20:58 That's true. He was like 16 when he disappeared. You were donating money to a chop shop around the corner. I want to see if it happens again as I'm holding out for Prince to see if like, wait, I get to see him like, yeah, I want to see if he like,
Starting point is 01:21:09 can, you know, start a family of his own at like the tender age of 14. He's got pictures in his apartment of fucking own for some. We used to record and I would look up and there's this picture of an Indian. My wife, I did not put a picture up. You would think that he like actually adopted an Indian kid.
Starting point is 01:21:23 It's like next to his real kids is fucking Om Prasad. Could he speak English? No. He wrote letters. He wrote it in his native language. You get the actual letter with that, and then there's a translation underneath. Got it. That's fucking funny.
Starting point is 01:21:36 Got it. 833-85-STOOLS. What an elaborate ruse. David from Long Island, what's up? Hey, I mean, first of all, that was just ridiculous, the home facade story. And I just wanted to let you know that there are definitely more chairs than people in the world.
Starting point is 01:21:53 Like I've been to, like my family's from the Dominican Republic. I've been there in like the countryside and they still have like 50,000 of those plastic lawn chairs. Right, I'm not saying that everyone has a Lazy Boy recliner, but the white patio furniture, everybody's got it.
Starting point is 01:22:09 There is some sort of thing you can use to sit on, and everybody has that. Undoubtedly. And I saw Karabas, I'm sorry about the throw last night. That looked like the Aaron Boone 2003 home run. What do you mean? It looks like you just let that up. I mean, that's a bit much.
Starting point is 01:22:28 That's a bit much of a comparison. That was one of the darkest moments. I was just going to say the year after was the four days in October, so it can only go up. There you go. The road upwards begins today. Cody from Oregon. Of course you're near Cody.
Starting point is 01:22:45 What's up? What's up, man? What do you got? So I got to say, there's at least, not only is there more chairs than people, but there has to at least be five times as many chairs as there are people. Really? Well, let's say North America and South America. Do you think there's 40 billion chairs in the world?
Starting point is 01:23:07 That would be roughly 8 billion people? I think there has to be at least 40 billion chairs in the world. If there's 8 billion people in the world, I would say I would take the over on 18 billion chairs. Yeah, I definitely think that. I think it probably is probably close to like five times now you know we were talking about stadiums and shit like certain stadiums everyone was like the big house has a hundred thousand people the big house is like a bleacher it's like one
Starting point is 01:23:34 bench you know that doesn't count i think it's got to be like a seat it doesn't have to be a chair like it can be in a stadium but it's got to be a seat a train has a seat you can be in a stadium, but it's got to be a seat. A train has a seat. It can't be a bench. It can't be a, you know, any, like, people were like, well, you can sit on a rock. No, no, no, no. It's not. It's got to be a chair. And also, you can't count a couch either. Right.
Starting point is 01:23:54 It's like a three-seater that doesn't count. No, I agree. It's an individual thing. It's a chair. A chair is a chair. A couch is a couch. But, you know. But think about a stadium.
Starting point is 01:24:02 When they have events, they have those big- ass things, the chairs that hold 500 chairs each. And every school has one, too, for their events. I mean, shit, there's got to be as many chairs. There are people just in that. Yeah, I mean, I think when you start breaking it down, it's an absolute no brainer. The only people who try to argue otherwise and cons just turtled like a fucking baby on it. But I think he was thinking to himself, you know, he's seen some shit. He's gone to some poor places in this world and seen how the other half lives.
Starting point is 01:24:29 And he was trying to I believe he tried to play the Marshall Henderson like social experiment card. Like, well, I was like playing devil's advocate to like think through a shot. Just shut the fuck up, Connor. But and it was Liz who I think was very much playing the like, you know, you like rich white men who think that everyone has chairs. Like, well, we do. Everyone has chairs.
Starting point is 01:24:48 We all do. And, and even the people, and even if there are a, a ton of people that what I'm not accounting for who don't have chairs, I think that there's so much room for error on my part that like even,
Starting point is 01:25:00 okay. Yeah, you're right. I didn't think about this like entire continent, but I still think that there's more chairs. I mean, I have three chairs to my name, and I live in an 800-square-foot apartment in New York City. I got four, I got five dining room table chairs.
Starting point is 01:25:16 I live by myself. Yeah, I live by myself. I have a chair in front of the TV. I have a chair at my desk, and then I have a chair at my desk at the office. Dude, my kids. Like, Shay has, like, two beanbag chairs. Keegan has his own chair.
Starting point is 01:25:30 There's chairs fucking everywhere. Beanbag chairs are chairs. Absolutely. They wouldn't call them beanbag chairs if they weren't chairs. No. You know, I would say this. Just a beanbag, we can make the argument, but this has, like, an armrest and, like, a back, and it's filled with beans. That's a beanbag chair. That's a seat.
Starting point is 01:25:46 That counts. Beanbag chairs are still chairs, people. We'll do one quick call before our halftime break. Stephen from St. Louis, what do you got? Chairs, people. Yeah, hey, so I was just saying you're 18 and 40 billion. You got to be way over that, guys. Think about all the chairs in restaurants, all the chairs in doctor's
Starting point is 01:26:02 office, therapist's office. Everywhere there are fucking a million chairs. Yeah, but I think that that's where it's fair, where it's like that's North America, that's Europe, that's Western life, but then there's probably entire continents and third world countries that don't have all that. So, you know, it probably evens out a little bit somewhere. I can debunk that, I feel. Yeah?
Starting point is 01:26:19 There is a shit ton of chairs in Africa. Even in, you know, the most desolate of places. Even in the most, I mean, a chair is like the most basic thing in life. That's what I'm saying. Even like in the most. Put it together, you know? I was thinking just. Yeah, I would agree.
Starting point is 01:26:30 You could make a chair out of some twine and some sticks if you had strong enough stuff. So even, so even quickly before we go to break here, for the Liz's and the Connors who are arguing like for the third world, you'd say that even. She's probably just trying to make you feel bad. But there's, I mean, there's like schools and villages. Those have chairs. They may not be as nice as these ones. No, but they're a device to sit on. Just at our rural home, we threw a party when Donnie and them came and there were enough chairs for people to sit on.
Starting point is 01:27:01 And that's in the building. The answer might actually be like $200 to $800 billion. That really might be the right answer. Yeah, for sure. It could be a trillion. Because if you can make your own chair and it's still a chair, like in the countries that can't afford them,
Starting point is 01:27:15 they're making them. No fucking doubt. Halftime here on the Dog Day CCK. Hour number two coming up after the break. It's Clancy and caravans I like the way she's working on me. Yeah. Yeah. I like the way she moves to the beat.
Starting point is 01:28:03 Oh, oh, oh, babe. It's hard to see a. Oh, oh, oh, babe. It's hard to see her certified freak, freak, freak, freak, freak. I like the way she know I ain't a man. We're back. Hour number two of CCK coming up in about ten minutes.
Starting point is 01:28:22 We got Uncle Dana White calling in. UFC 245 is coming up in about 10 minutes we got uncle dana white calling in uh ufc uh 245 is coming up and there's also a fight night on espn uh this saturday december 7th so a couple events uh for dana to chop it up with and i'm sure we'll talk a little connor and whatever else is cooking in mma right now the will p out. Baseball is a changing. We got the winter meetings and the hot stove cooking up. Matt from Chicago is looking to talk to The Rocket. What's up, Matt?
Starting point is 01:28:53 Hey, guys. First of all, Kevin, congratulations on getting rid of the Wilpons. Oh, thank you. I do kind of consider it like I actually achieved this, so I do believe congratulations are in order. Thank you. So I'm a big White Sox fan, and I've always felt like a kind of kinship for the Mets, so we're basically the same
Starting point is 01:29:12 team, so I feel happy for you. Yeah, you guys are kind of like the AL Mets in a way. A lot of hopes up and nothing ever materializing, so I hope one day you can maybe find your Stephen Cohen. Thank you. So, Jared, you mentioned yesterday on Twitter that you felt sorry for us, and it's very weird. I, like, don't know what to do. Last year we get all of Manny Machado's family,
Starting point is 01:29:39 and then he chooses the money. This year we make Wheeler the highest offer, and he chooses the family. Like, are we ever going to get anybody? So, I mean, like, the Yosemite Grandal signing, I don't want that to like slip through the cracks because it happened so early in the off season. And I feel like we're kind of conditioned now as baseball fans to think that like the bigger signings happen later into the winter. Like getting Grandal was big for the, for the White Sox lineup.
Starting point is 01:30:04 Extending Jose Abreu was another big one. But just because you didn't sign Zach Wheeler doesn't mean that it's like, ah, fuck, we missed out on signing a pitcher. Would you be happy with Dallas Keuchel? Because I feel like that might even be a better option. I'd be happy with Dallas Keuchel if they got another starter to go with him. We have Giolito, but outside of that, we don't have any top-end
Starting point is 01:30:27 starters. Kopech's such a question mark now with the Tommy John. You never know. I think Kopech's more of a question mark in between his years, to be honest with you. He's definitely a dude that I don't want to say he's soft. He's not soft, but I definitely
Starting point is 01:30:43 think that he'll... He's definitely a weird dude. Yeah, in his major league career, I feel like he'll be his own worst enemy. But yeah, it's a decent place to start. I just don't know what else the White Sox could do from a starting pitching perspective. I would make Keuchel a priority from here on out. Maybe an outfielder. I feel like that outfield doesn't really have a whole lot of star power in it. You know, I do see.
Starting point is 01:31:08 No, it was the worst right field in baseball last year. Yeah, like Eloy. Eloy's a DH. Like, that's a dude that you don't even want to have in the outfield, but I would also understand, like, wanting to have, like, the DH spot available for a Brayu if he ever needs, like, a day off, like, from being on his feet. But, yeah, I mean, the the white socks could all like if they're they're a starting pitcher or two away from at least being able to say like hey we can actually contend in the al central because the
Starting point is 01:31:36 indians are probably going to trade lindor and then god knows what's going to happen to that franchise from that point forward yikes when they give up on Lindor, it's going to be... It's going to be either this offseason or this summer. Yeah, I mean, it's definitely happening, and when it officially does, that is going to... They've straight up told you, like, we're not paying this fucking guy.
Starting point is 01:31:53 But I do at least appreciate the transparency. Like, I mean... I mean, we're telling you how fucking cheap we are. Yeah, I mean, it's tough when you don't have a reason. Like, when the New York Rangers put out that press release a couple seasons ago, being like, we're trading everybody, don't have a reason. Like when the New York Rangers put out that press release a couple seasons ago being like, we're trading everybody and we're scrapping it down and rebuilding. I kind of like that.
Starting point is 01:32:10 And it actually looks like it's kind of working. Like when you have a reason and a plan in place, I think it's good to just own up to it. The Panthers owner just did that with... They're not just going to straight up blow it up. They're like, we can't pay Lindor, so we're trading Lindor. It's like, all right, then fucking trade everybody. What's the point?
Starting point is 01:32:26 Well, that's the thing. It needs to be executed better. It needs to be more like a full-scale plan and not just like we're letting one guy walk. They're gun-shy because the last time that they did a full rebuild, they lost like 60% of their fan base that still have not come back. And that's where I think that's a bad fan base too. It not come back like even when that's where i you know that's where i think that's a bad fan base too it's like rebuilds a part of the game unless you're
Starting point is 01:32:49 you know one of the very rare teams that gets us just through you know on the fly retools and if you can't like weather the storm at all then you then it's your fucking fault too you know you're not helping the cause either take one call before we get to d White. Eric from Philly, what's up? Hey, so when you were talking about Steve Cohen, I'm like, God, this guy sounds just like Bobby Axler on it, and you talked about it. It was like the same fucking guy, so it's so funny. But then we needed, like, sports needs
Starting point is 01:33:17 him to be successful, because then they could be like, oh, wow, he actually did well, and then hopefully they'll let one of his seven kids buy the Knicks, and the other one could buy the Jets, and just fucking clear out all his assholes, and just get smart people with money who don't give a shit about controlling the team, and just take over the whole
Starting point is 01:33:33 New York scene. That's why I need Bezos next to buy the Knicks. There's very few people that got enough money to buy into the Knicks, and buy into the Garden, and Cablevision, and all that shit. Dolan needs to sell that next. So you have like a 20 year window where it's going to be good.
Starting point is 01:33:49 So it's either going to keep going good or those seven kids are all going to fight once this guy gets old and passes. So I hope you have a good 20 year window. That's what I'm rooting for you. Eric, in the next 20 years, I mean I'm winning like seven or eight at least. I mean come on. The dynasty is here. I hope for you.
Starting point is 01:34:05 Yeah, listen. All I need is one, but I really do believe that this is going to be like the Mets transforming into an actual big market team, which should be at least in the mix. I hope they bring the Knicks and the Jets along with them.
Starting point is 01:34:21 Well, you know what? What's good is it does pressure other franchises in the same city. I mean, I know Feidelberg used to talk about the Bruins. They had to basically open up their wallets after being notoriously cheap because of the Red Sox breaking the curse and the Patriots launching a dynasty. They were like, we can't be the only assholes left out to dry. Right now, everybody sucks in New York. Everybody's mediocre. And it's kind of like well i
Starting point is 01:34:46 don't have to win because these guys are all losing let me like you know make sure i get my money in a row let me make sure everything's all set here business wise because right now there's no impetus or pressure to win last year for boston it was so ridiculous that people were mad at the celtics for not winning the eastern conference yeah they were mad like it was like oh we got the super bowl the bruins are in the stanley cup the red Conference. A championship. They got the Super Bowl, the Bruins are in the Stanley Cup, the Red Sox won the World Series. What the fuck are the Celtics doing? They made the postseason. Right. Anybody else, it's
Starting point is 01:35:14 completely fucking normal. But if all of a sudden the Mets get good, the other... Also, all the shitty franchises, the little brother franchises in New York always can throw their hands up. It's like, well, we're not the Yankees, we're not the Giants, because also all the shitty franchises, the little brother franchises in New York always can kind of like throw their hands up. It's like, well, you know, we're not the Yankees. We're not the Giants.
Starting point is 01:35:29 We're not the Rangers. It's like, well, now one of the shitty teams like put it together. Yeah. It's not so fun when the rabbit gets the gun, is it? I'm telling you, I'm going to have the gun. I'm just going to kill everybody. Yeah. People are going to hate me.
Starting point is 01:35:46 If you had a problem with my Mets content, as it is, oh, my God. Let it fuel you, Kevin. Oh, it's going to be great. It's going to be fucking glorious. The guys who were chirping me saying this is going to be bad for business, I was like, oh, you are so wrong. I have a podcast. We put out Mets merch.
Starting point is 01:36:06 We do Mets videos. We do Jets videos. We offer a team that nobody cares about for franchises that people openly disregard and don't give a fuck about. Can you imagine when those teams are popular, not just in this city, when the Mets are like a relevant conversation nationally? Yeah. You think that's going to be bad for business? I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think bad for business i don't think so i don't think
Starting point is 01:36:25 so i don't think so either i don't think so now whether or not you know you'll uh yeah i'm sure there would be i know how many people like to watch like a mets meltdown for me or see when i when i fucking want to blow my head off or every time there's a bad loss it's like go to his twitter or go check out what he's doing and that won't be there, but I don't give a fuck. That's the other thing. Two people being like, you like when your teams lose, like I assure you,
Starting point is 01:36:49 I don't, I promise you, I want to be making rants about how much better we are than other people. I just haven't had the opportunity to do that yet. I agree with you for you, but seeing Frank, the tank, not having meltdowns. Oh,
Starting point is 01:36:59 well, don't worry. Frank's still like angry. Frank was complaining about Zach Wheeler yesterday. Like, bro, I don't give a fuck about Zach Wheeler anymore. I don't give a fuck about the next five years. All of this is just waiting until the new regime takes over. Who fucking cares, Frank?
Starting point is 01:37:15 Relax. Did you see the stat that Jay Hay tweeted? No, what was that? It was something to the effect of like Zach Wheeler had the lowest pitcher, wins above replacement to receive a contract besides like homer bailey i absolutely believe that i mean he is as pedestrian as it fucking gets man as far as like you know obviously if you're 100 million dollar play you are like a successful arm but within that framework the only pitchers to sign for 100 million dollars who accumulated
Starting point is 01:37:45 fewer what's b war uh baseball reference okay uh at the time of signing zach wheeler are tanaka for obvious reasons and homer bailey yeah so just homer bailey i mean that is 118 million for that now of course because it is the mets and we we're talking old Mets. Why are you laughing at Frank? I'm just laughing at Frank. Yep. The console, the decade tweet yesterday. Yeah, but that I think was before. I know, but it's funny. It is funny.
Starting point is 01:38:10 No, it's funny because. Read out the. Okay. So Frank listed out every season and their wins and losses each season. The numbers he chose are ridiculous. Jared. Frank tweeted console, the decade, 2020, 61 and 101 In 2021, 51 and 111. 2022, 40 and 122. So we see it 60, 50, 40, now what? So 2023, 30 and 132. 2024, 10 and 152. 2025,
Starting point is 01:38:41 oh, they want a little bit more, 20 and 142. And here's the real kicker. In both 2026 and 2027, 0 and 162. In 2028, they did win one game. In 2029, 13 and 149. I love how you point this out where they come back up. Yeah, he said coupons and the half-assed cheap Mets picking their nose and dumpster diving as key players go to the division rivals and the reason i started laughing was because dan just quote tweeted it and said what the hell happened in 2026 and 2027 tank i love that he was like these seasons they'll not win a single game after that 13 wins like they made a couple moves they
Starting point is 01:39:20 got like a better picture we're good to go They won one game in three seasons, and then the fourth season, 13. What is this? Now, Frank, I don't know if he'll know what to do. The losing has been so ingrained into him. I feel like it's almost in Shawshank when Brooks kills himself. He's just like, I don't know how to do this. I don't know how to live life where I'm not complaining about the Mets. I will be lost.
Starting point is 01:39:44 There will be like a I don't know how to react, but I will gladly learn and I will gladly adapt. I think Frank will just find something to complain about. For sure. Frank has to be the guy that screams and yells on social media. I mean. Like, can you imagine if like the Dolphins get good and the Mets are good and the Rangers are good somehow?
Starting point is 01:40:02 The Devils. Sorry, the Devils. One of the best content moments of the entire year was when Frank lost his mind and ate his shirt during the, what was that? That was the Nationals game. Yep. It was the best comeback in Nationals history
Starting point is 01:40:16 in the ninth inning against the Mets. The legend, Frank, to thank. Another legend is on the line right now. Dana White joins the program. Uncle Dana, what's going on, brother? What's up, guys? How are you? We're doing good, man. I'm looking at the lineup here.
Starting point is 01:40:33 We got the UFC Fight Night on ESPN this Saturday and UFC 245 coming up, so a lot of good things on the docket. Sounds like business is good as usual. Everything is very good. What are we looking forward to here on December 7th? ESPN. I know that that relationship is continuing to grow and blossom. Yeah, the ESPN relationship has been amazing. You know, I say it all the time. For anybody who's involved in sports, you hope to someday be on ESPN,
Starting point is 01:41:02 but you don't realize how big and powerful and incredible espn is until you're in it so is that is that right so earlier we were just having a discussion kind of about the differences uh like we had a guy who's flourishing on youtube right now and whether or not he wants to get on tv and is it is there still value in just going kind of the old school route and getting on tv and getting on a major network. And so even for a guy like you, as UFC kind of came up in, in different alternative ways, you still really see the benefit of being down and in bed with a partner like ESPN.
Starting point is 01:41:37 It's insane. You know, all, all you hear about is cord cutting and how, you know, television, you know, traditional television is dying and blah, blah, blah. Ever since we've been in business with these guys now, it's been almost 12 months, right? And literally, ratings are through the roof. Every aspect of our business has gone up since being with ESPN. It's just unbelievable. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:04 I'm talking even international pay-per-view. International pay-per-view is up since we've been on ESPN. And when you watch ESPN, when you think about it, every week that we have a fight on every one of their channels, they have that box in the corner that says the UFC fight with the fighters' names. They're just, what would it cost to pay for that? I mean, the value of that is you couldn't put a number on it and for the fighters the fighters names are up there all week so the promotion and the exposure is still really there with going down with the
Starting point is 01:42:35 mothership huh yeah well that's that's just one little thing i'm talking about that espn can do yeah that one little thing is so massive. Unbelievable. I mean, what you've done, where you've taken it from, and where you're at now is just absolutely nuts, the way, how mainstream it's gotten. 245 is, what, December 14th, so back-to-back weeks,
Starting point is 01:42:57 you got a lot of action here. What can we expect in 245? Yeah, thank you. I appreciate it. 245 is a fun fight. Obviously, big fan fan favorite the fight that everybody's wanted to see for a long time kamara uzman versus colby covington for the welterweight championship um max holloway who was loved by you know so many fans taking on alexander volkanovsky, bad dude from Australia. Then we got the GOAT, Amanda Nunes, taking on the greatest female fighter of all time,
Starting point is 01:43:33 taking on the greatest kickboxer of all time in Jermaine Durand-Aimé. Plus, Jose Aldo fighting Marlon Marais on the card. You got Uriah Faber versus Peter Yan, and the list goes on and on. The card is awesome. The female fight is so fascinating to me. We just did one of our rough and rowdy pay-per-views, and the main event was a female one for our first time. We had this girl, the Bumblebee. And, I mean, they put on a fucking show, man.
Starting point is 01:43:55 When you get two girls in the ring who know what they're doing, who can throw hands, and it's still a little bit of, you know, you're so traditionally used to men. When you see women do it and they put on a good product, it's, it's something special. It's a wild. They were by far the best fight of the night. A thousand percent. And I, and nobody's done that better than you guys because I feel like the,
Starting point is 01:44:14 the women's card is always just as much of a draw when you have the big names in it. Yeah. Thank you. And when you talk about the women fighting at this level to be at the UFC and not just to be in the UFC, but to be ranked in the top 15 in the world. I mean, these women are incredible. The technique, the heart, the desire to win. And I just feel like when you look at women in sports and women in general, women in life, when opportunity, uh, to be on a platform like this, there's a huge chip on their shoulder. Like, like they, they,
Starting point is 01:44:51 they want to, uh, they want to deliver and they do. Dana, I saw the video that, uh, our very own Bob Fox did when he took a tour of your awesome office there. How many people since that video dropped have tried to invite themselves to your office since then? Yeah, no, a lot of people come to my office, yeah. Yeah, my office is ridiculous. It really is. It's incredible. Was that like, you know, one of your first, all right, I made it financially, I'm set,
Starting point is 01:45:24 I'm going to just trick this whole place out and be ridiculous with it. Is that always a part of the plan? I thought my old office was nice. So I, you know, when I, when I came here, we you know, one of the things that I did, when you think about a lot of different people in business have different philosophies about offices. Now, Ari Emanuel, you know who he is, right? He's the head of WME IMG Endeavor. He's the biggest agent in Hollywood. You know, you would expect to go to his office in Beverly Hills and be blown away. It's tiny. My bathroom's
Starting point is 01:45:59 bigger than his office, okay? Right? What a flex. But Ari has the philosophy that, you know, I don't need a lot of office space to get done what I need to get done and all this other stuff. I'm the exact opposite. I spend 90 percent of my life here in this building. You know, I have my gym where I eat, where I can watch the fights, you know, my office for meetings. I have everything that I need right here. I think completely the opposite of what guys like Ari think. I'm leaning more towards your style, Dane. If I can ever get to that level, I certainly hope so. So McGregor back in action was the news recently. Obviously one of the biggest draws ever been a long time since we've seen him fight been an even longer time since we've seen him win. I kind of,
Starting point is 01:46:50 as a casual fan was, you know, thinking to myself, I thought it was over for him. I didn't know if he really had, you know, enough left in the tank. Bob Fox was pointing out to me how,
Starting point is 01:46:59 you know, his last, last fights, his last losses were against, you know, some of the absolute best fighters to ever live. What do you think is in store for Conor coming up? Yeah, it's true.
Starting point is 01:47:10 Obviously, big test coming up. He's had a lot of time off going in against Cowboy. Cowboy is always tough. He can beat you standing. He can beat you on the ground. His ground game is unbelievable. So he's got a lot of ways to win. This is a real fight and it's a tough fight for Conor, especially with the layoff.
Starting point is 01:47:30 I mean, Conor's ranked number three in the world. Cerrone's ranked number five in the world. So that whole, you know, you got the champion Khabib, you got Tony Ferguson, who's ranked number one, Poirier number two, McGregor number three, Justin Gaethje's number four, and Cerrone's number five. Any of those guys can beat each other on any given day. The one question is, Khabib. Khabib is undefeated, never been beaten. Who's the guy to beat Khabib? Is it Tony? Can Conor do it if he beats Donald Cerrone? And if Justin Gaethje gets an opportunity, could he do it? Dana, there are a lot of people talking about why Conor's deciding to fight at the welterweight. And I know Joe Rogan's weighed in on it and everybody's kind of talking about that. What do you think about his decision to not want to lose weight? So whatever anybody said,
Starting point is 01:48:20 they probably were wrong. Conor wants this fight at 170 because seroni has fought at 172 and he knew he wouldn't mind doing it both of them don't have to cut to 55 um and connor is thinking about two things he wants to turn right around back to back and fight because he's hoping to beat seroni then turn around and fight habib if he beats t Ferguson. He wants to do it quickly so that he wouldn't have to cut the weight twice. He also wants to get another fight at 170 under his belt because he's saying he wants to fight Masvidal. Well, here's hoping that he can get it done because when he's in the mix and he's on top, as much as the sport's been succeeding,
Starting point is 01:49:02 it's through the fucking roof when he's in the mix. So we appreciate the time, Dana. We got UFC Fight Night is this Saturday, December 7th on ESPN. And then 245 is the following Saturday, December 14th. And we always appreciate the time, man. Thanks so much. Thank you, guys. Have a great day.
Starting point is 01:49:19 You too. Thanks, Dana. He is the best. Love Dana. Love the guy. I still think the day he came into the old studio and we talked for hours, one of my favorites. I have to remind myself,
Starting point is 01:49:31 I say this every time, but the fact that he's a commissioner and if you think about the other commissioners in sports, and they don't really even deserve to be the way they are. There's just this air about them like a hush falls over. They would never be here they would never give you the time of day when they fucking should like put it this way this like dana white can actually
Starting point is 01:49:51 beat your ass yeah dana like rob manfred's not going out there and like hey let me take some fucking hats adam silver looks like a fucking alien yeah i mean yeah i mean some of them i like some of them i don't like but all of them should be a little more engaged and a little more like, you know, reasonable the way human. Yeah. Like, like, like what you resonate with your fan base a little bit. Like what Dana does is kind of regarded as like, oh my God, I can't believe when it should be more like that's the standard. The other guys, the ones that are the weirdos should be able to just fucking talk about
Starting point is 01:50:19 your sport and like shoot the shit. We had to let him go there cause he's a busy dude, but I wanted, I would love to have, uh, love to get his opinion on Deontay Wilder and boxing because I think he said before, as long as the combat sports scene is thriving, it's good for everybody.
Starting point is 01:50:36 But I wonder if there's like a fuck, that was awesome. Deontay Wilder pronounced it all last night. Boxing's still I don't know. That's why it was so interesting when they combined McGregor and Mayweather. What an event that was. That was unbelievable. So fucking cool.
Starting point is 01:50:49 That was probably the first time that I paid money for a pay-per-view since, like, the WWF in the 90s. What was the last? In the 90s, you weren't buying pay-per-views after that? Yes, you were. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because they had it two times. The early 2000s. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:06 Dude, I used to love it even when a pay-per-view ended up kind of bombing the lead up on like a Sunday night like when you were gassed up for it and they do like you know
Starting point is 01:51:12 like four hours of entertainment like Sunday night heat to lead into a pay-per-view yes my guy friends loved that shit
Starting point is 01:51:19 oh it was the best loved it I never got into it but there was always that one month it was tough as a girl
Starting point is 01:51:24 growing up in that era to like really be down with it. It's probably a little bit different now. Yeah. I just didn't have any interest in it. Yeah. There's some things that I think are still a little like, you know, gender stereotypical. I mean, I wasn't talking about wrestling with any chicks, you know. I feel like now it's kind of gone a little more
Starting point is 01:51:40 mainstream. You probably, probably more so. But when I was growing up, I wasn't talking to any of my girlfriends being like, did you see The Rock? Did you see Stone Cold? Boxing pay-per-views. I feel like they had to know for Christmas time. Oh, I meant like
Starting point is 01:51:55 literal girlfriends. But I just meant like girls in school. There was no girls in school. They need to suck up my dick. They're not talking to me at all. You didn't have any friends that were girls you weren't hooking up with? Back then, if I was talking to a girl,
Starting point is 01:52:09 I was trying to date her. I will say that the girls who I was friends with, I deep down wanted to fuck them. I did want to hook up with them. I did want to date them. They were putting me in the friend zone. You said before that no girls and guys can be friends.
Starting point is 01:52:24 Right, because like I said, someone always wants to fuck you, and usually it was me. Usually it was me being like, hey, you can cry on my shoulder about your boyfriend because maybe I'll be the next one. You want to hang out and watch a movie this weekend? Yeah, not realizing full-blown friend zone, you know? Yeah. You can get out of the friend zone. You can. You can.
Starting point is 01:52:43 You can. Sometimes. I mean, I think it's a rarity it's a rarity and you gotta like the stars gotta align and you gotta do it in in a way that really like shocks someone out of the friend zone or what you need is like i feel like you can get out of the friend zone like later in life sort of thing yeah it comes back around and it's sort of like well yeah like i fucked a bunch of those douchebags and now i realized that like you're the nice guy i went through that phase very hard like after it very hard a little bit after college.
Starting point is 01:53:08 The girls that didn't want me in high school, I was like, what about now? Yes. When? What do you mean? When in high school? After high school, you're saying? When did they decide they wanted you? When I was bulking up in like 2011 12 like around
Starting point is 01:53:25 there like i still put on like i put on like 65 pounds well yeah that'll make a difference when it's like listen i'm not i'm not i don't want to fuck this shallow superficial but yeah yeah it's not like you need to be ripped but i need you to not look like a like i could kill you if i had sex with you yeah but that's also not necessarily that's a different thing than friend zoning that's just somebody that wasn't hot and then got hot. Like if you're like truly friend zoned, it's different than if you just got hotter. What's the best way to get out of the friend zone? Depends on the age, I think.
Starting point is 01:53:56 Like you said, as you get older, it's a little bit like. I don't think I'll ever be like friend zoned again because it would just be like, well, not saying that like. Because it's different. If someone puts me in the friend zone, I'll just be like, okay, that's it would just be like well not not saying that like because it's different if someone puts me in the friend zone i'll just be like okay that's it you know what i mean like i'm not gonna i'm not gonna like sit here and listen about your other boyfriend and all that shit i'll just be like okay we are basically not gonna like associate i'm interested in you in a level that you're not interested in me that's it rather than like follow you around like a puppy dog like you know i did when i was a kid so i feel like any of my girlfriends that have have friend zone situations at this age it's usually because they
Starting point is 01:54:28 were really close to somebody and then they started sleeping together somehow like like if a girlfriend is like this is my really good guy friend like we're just friends and then like they accidentally hook up and then they're like oh shit like we have feelings for each other yeah yeah well i yeah i think like as time goes on I just think it's super rare that at some point there's not going to be a slip up or a, a drunk night or something. I'm just using examples that I'm like, well,
Starting point is 01:54:53 if a girl has friend zone, somebody so much that she's not attracted to them at all. You really can't get out of that. That's like, it's a, once it's like a brother and sister vibe for her, it's rocking over. Ryan has worked his way out of the friend zone.
Starting point is 01:55:05 What do you got, Ryan? All right, so my sophomore, between freshman and sophomore year of college, really liked this girl. Hard friend zone on me. Worked my way through the summer, FaceTime, text, got back to school sophomore year. Got with her. We were dating for about a month or two.
Starting point is 01:55:24 Completely fucked it up with another girl, lost her. I mean, once you work your way out, you gotta, gotta stay on the straight and narrow, man.
Starting point is 01:55:34 You can work your way out, you gotta put, I put three months of hard work in, and then you fuck it up so it doesn't mean anything in the end, but it's very possible.
Starting point is 01:55:42 Yeah, I just wonder sometimes if it's, I's i so here's my thought now before we go to break i'm gonna put this out there see what you think i am over i think the idea of like working uphill you know like if it ain't gonna come easy and it's not gonna click and it's not gonna just be like you know what this is fun and this works and we are happy and makes us like both better yeah then why like you know like you mean chasing something no chase is fine because chase can kind of be fun more like you know when people you got to work in your relationship like
Starting point is 01:56:16 you really do but to what extent like if you're starting out with someone and it's like a square peg in a round hole and you're just trying to make it work because of one you're attracted or you should whatever the reason may be it's like why don't you just there's so many people you can find there's so many ways to connect why not just wait and find the right person where it's just natural and just like flows why like bang your head against the wall trying to make it work when maybe maybe that's trying to be having this concerted effort to convince someone to like you yeah that's what i mean so i was gonna say you know it has been a long time since i've been friend zoned but that's not because like oh i can get any girl i want i just have a better sense of what i can get and then and if and if you can't you're just kind of like yeah like you know like you can tell very
Starting point is 01:57:02 early on if there's interest yeah and if there's not, if there's no interest, you don't even have to tip your hand that you were interested. You can just be like, yeah, I was just fucking saying hi. And I think there's something to the chase and the idea of if you really like someone and you pursue it and you want it and all that. But if it's just like you're forcing something in the beginning i think if you're if you're in a relationship and things go wrong it's like you should try you should if you're married you should do couples counseling like early on try to make it work but early on why do that like why you know if she doesn't like you or you've had part of me thinks like because there were things with my marriage was like you know that day five ten whatever years ago i should have been like
Starting point is 01:57:44 this is poisoning the well like this is gonna be a problem forever so just like let's cut bait now we both can go find something different and better because why like fight uphill the whole time you know our friend carl lens has a saying where there is pressure there is no peace so early in relationships if there's a lot of pressure you'll never be in a peaceful relationship yeah i kind of agree with that it's just like he was saying like early on, if it's constant pressure, it's always going to get worse. Especially if you're talking about marriage and families and shit.
Starting point is 01:58:11 It's like, if you're stressed now, when you're both just like hanging out and hooking up, well then what's going to happen when you have real responsibility? Cause he's saying like, if there's peace at the beginning and you're really happy and eventually you run into pressure, then at least you have a good foundation. But if you're constantly in a pressure situation, you're never going to be happy. I wish I had talked to Carl. Let's get a break. When we come back, we got a chat on the line. We got Dominican Dylan on the line, talking a little friend zone action on CCK.
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