KFC Radio - Dante Recounts The Night He Got Jumped - Inside Barstool

Episode Date: May 22, 2023

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Hey, KFC Radio listeners, you can find every episode of KFC Radio on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. They cut it. They didn't tell me, but they cut it. They cut it. No! You gotta find those. We got Dante the Don. The Don in the building, man. Looking good.

Thank you. My man. I'm happy to see you are. You got that fucking soup diet body. I don't know, man. The fucking scale doesn't say I'm down that much. But if you're going to comment. No, you look good, man.

You're looking good. You got the Nelly Band-Aid on. We're good to go. I know. I was honestly glad when you agreed to come on the show. And I didn't want to ask, but I was like, he's not saying yes and he can't talk, right? You got a little through the wire situation going? No, thank God.

Because they told me before the surgery it was going to be a game time decision. I was either going to wake up my jaw wired or not. Oh, my God. Dude, what an awful thing to tell you. Yeah, for real. a game time decision i was either gonna wake up my jaw wired or not oh my god yeah for real like hey it's gonna go fine but you might not be able to your life like just you know when you wake up you might not be able to talk for a few months he was like he was like i don't think we're gonna need it he's like but i'll i'll figure it out once i'm in there jesus christ i woke up and i immediately was like oh good hey your boy's got a jaw apparently dude what a fucking unbelievably horrible turn of events so it was just straight like random

act of violence yeah so i got people don't know give it a give it a little actually so i got yelled at last week by the state's attorney because i like said some stuff on i posted that picture and shit right i posted that picture and shit right i posted that picture and people were asking questions and i answered him and he saw it and hit me up and was like yo you can't talk about anything it's just like jeopardizes the detail yeah so i mean this guy i will say well then don't i mean you can't you can't, you can't. I mean, he had 24 prior arrests on his record. 24? Yeah.

I just put up numbers. Yeah, he's a scumbag. And he's still out on the streets somehow to do this. And it's because he fights the system. People don't testify. People drop charges. You're going to show up fucking. Yeah, they were like, are you going to participate?

I was like, yeah. They were like, well, you're in chicago are you gonna like come back where was it here right it was in providence i was like yeah i will be at every hell you fucking hearing yeah man so they're like all right good that we might actually be able to like prosecute then so dude my my sister got like a similar situation when she was in college in D.C. And she just got like – well, I mean she didn't catch it like you did. But like some guy was getting arrested in a bar and he ran out and like in order to like cause a melee instead of like flipping the chair, he just fucking smoked her in the face. Jesus Christ. And like – again, it wasn't anything like you. But she went to the hospital with stitches and stuff like that.

And my dad was going to the hearing when he was being tried. He found guilty. And he showed up to the courthouse. And he had to go through, like, the x-ray machine and all that stuff. And he was just going down for a day trip. But he had gone, like, he's like, I got to exercise and all that stuff. So he brought a jump rope. And they were going through the courthouse security.

They're like, what are you going to do with this? He's like, it's a jump rope. And they're like, what's it used for? He's like, jumping it. To jump rope. To jump over it. I don't think they let him bring it through. They thought he was going to strangle the guy with it.

I wouldn't be surprised if he fought. That's one of the most random fucking things you could possibly try to bring through security. I would think something, too. I'd be like, I don't know what, but this guy is going to do something. These are the longest nunchucks I've ever seen. Or someone else is bringing something that connects to that. They're going to do some shit. Of course, your dad would bring a jumper.

Yeah. So this dude, just no connection connection just like it could have been you it could have been me could have been him could have been her like yeah whoever was in that place at that moment was kind of it's kind of scary when you think about that part of it it's like the knockout game and when that was was viral people just getting fucking sucker punch left and right just because like kids wanted to go viral and i I mean, I literally, the last thing I remembered was, so my friends opened this bar. It's like right on Brown's campus,

which you know Providence, like fucking beautiful. Yeah. Like beautiful area. I would not have expected this to happen in Providence. Down the street from Hemingway's. It's not a great spot because I've had a friend who was stalked

leaving it as well. All right, so we'll cross it off the list. Wait, tell me this now. I told you this. I was texting you that night. I was like, yo, someone followed them from Providence to Massachusetts. Oh, yeah. They had to get up the highway and the cops were waiting.

That's right. Yes, I was talking to you. Wait, that was the same area? Yeah. Yes, you're right. You're right. Shit. So maybe it's a bad place fuck tell your buddy to build a bar a different spot so i he they wanted me to play

i went and played awesome fucking night great time was going to boston the next day and uh i was supposed to have breakfast with my uncle who lives up in whalen and i woke up and i'm in the fucking hot i'm in on a stretcher in the hospital i'm like same clothes as last night jesus christ covered in blood and i'm like i must have gotten a car accident so i'm like waiting for the nurse that's crazy finally nurse comes in he's like oh you're awake like yeah did i get in a car accident and he starts like laughing he's like you think you got in a car accident i'm like yeah how why am i here he's like you don't remember anything about how you got here were you drunk like i had a few drinks not like not bad and yeah and when the bar

closed down so i ordered an uber it was said it was 15 minutes away so I was like alright I'm not going to go outside I'm going to wait and everyone's like staff's doing staff drinks and all that but I was like no I'm good I got to wake up early I got to go meet my uncle so I was good I wasn't sober but I wasn't like

fucking hammered but Uber says it's like three minutes away and I go outside and then next thing i remember i woke up in the hospital dude the the wake up uh and like you know like i don't know where i am is like i mean i only think about that in like movies you know what i mean because you think like you know i don't know you saw the guy at one one second before he hit you or something precipitates it but to just like, I was walking out the door and then next thing you know,

it's like to go from here to here in the hospital. I was walking to the car and he came up behind me, hit me, knocked me out. I don't know. Nobody knows really. There's two videos. I haven't watched the worst video because i'm afraid i'm gonna like puke everywhere yeah i can't can we do that can we see it but uh yeah they were like yeah it's fucking horrible jesus what is like security video yeah so there's a there's a restaurant

across the street that had video like straight on and then the bar was at had video that was like through the door. But yo, so I woke up and I was like, I got to get out of here. I was like, I got to check out of my hotel and get up to Wayland. I got to go to breakfast with my uncle. And the guy's like, you're not going anywhere. Yeah, bro. Are you kidding me? I was like, why?

I feel fine. He's like, go look in the mirror. He like got me up. So you didn't even realize. Well, I was woozy. I thought I was on fucking morphine or something. I felt fine. He walked me to the bathroom. I turned on the light.

I saw that. That was the picture. I was like, what the fuck? I was like, oh my God. Then I realized I only have one eye open. Fucking face is out to here. I'm mumbling. I'm like, oh man man did you lose teeth my is the best like the

most weird thing so my wisdom teeth never got removed and my fucking back wisdom tooth cracked and like popped up through the gum dude yanked that god knocked so hard you got your wisdom teeth in holy shit how are all these people still there? I'm so lucky. Like, so fucking lucky. Do you know if you hit the ground hard, too? I always worry about that, too. You get hit and then you hit the concrete.

Dude, that's why I'm seriously... I know people are like, I'm lucky. It could have been so much worse. This could have been fucking so much worse. I didn't think you were going to look like this. I thought you were still going to be a bad chick. I had a kid who worked at my bar in Chicago right before Christmas, was going home up his stairs one night, slipped on ice, fell, smashed his head.

They drilled holes in his head to relieve the brain pressure. And they were like, he's going to be all right, but you know, his, he's going to be different because she's brains altered. Yeah. And then three days later he died. Oh,

just from hitting his head wrong. And I'm like, yeah, you know, smash my head on the ground. Smash my head. How many times? I mean,

it's, it's crazy how, how dangerous that can be, but also the other side of it. Like if, as you you know as long as something doesn't go tragically wrong your body's like all right we got this a few days of this a few weeks of that and like you'll be back on your feet have do you feel any like uh lingering effects no ringing or memory or anything just my jaws like numb as shit i have plates in it so it's like the feeling hasn't come back they said it's gone they said the nerves will like reconnect so this is all still numb rest

of my face i can feel now the swelling's way down i just been icing like crazy you got a skin in your face and i do yeah ice is it is crazy how ice is like it's about it's like magic when everyone's like put ice on it's like's like, put ice on it. It's seriously the best. They told me they were like, if you can put ice on as much as possible, do it. And I've literally just, anytime I'm sitting on the couch or not out and about, I just have ice pack on my face. Dude, Providence is provinces no providence

probably one of those cities for like 25 years they've been saying like it's an up-and-coming city it's an up-and-coming city and it really hasn't changed it's not coming dude i had a buddy in college i had a lot of co-buddies who went to pc i had one buddy who was walking home one night talking to his dad who's a cop and he just got smashed over the head with a cinder block. And the guy... For no reason? Yeah, they took his... stole his phone. It was, like, it was 07, so, like... It wasn't even, like... I think it was a Blackberry or something like that.

And they took his phone, and they didn't hang up on his dad. They were just like, fuck you, it's my phone now. And then that same kid rode his bike to... He was at PC, and there's a CVS down by fucking... I forget, one of the bars over there. And he rode his bike to – he was at PC and there's a CVS down by fucking – I forget one of the bars over there. And he rode his bike to CVS and came back out. And some dude was just carrying his bike away. And he was like, yo, that's my bike. And the guy went, no, it's not.

And he kept carrying the bike. He could have ridden it much faster. He was carrying it. No, it's not. And he was like, yeah, he's probably right. It's not my bike. That belongs to you. Not worth it, no, it's not. And he's like, yeah, he's probably right. It's not my bucket. That belongs to you. Not worth it.

Not worth it, man. I mean, my boys that went to PC, that was not a great area. And shit used to be like bad up there. I don't think it's changed all that much.

I would always walk around like head on a silver up there, but fucking that brown area is not bad at all. I was a kid at Providence. I think it was his freshman year. Him and his friends just threw

piss all over each other. For why? Because it's funny, dude. Ask him why. The Great Providence Piss Fight of 2006, they call it. They just started pissing on each other. By the animals.

My buddy who was with us this weekend, who we called on the show, he had forgotten. He was like, that was the first night we met. Yes. We all met, hanging out, new college kids, whatever. They all piss on each other. You're the worst. Bro, I'm not the worst. I'll tell you what.

You're the fucking worst. You can tell when he texted me. No, what? First text. So when this happened, this is also very fucked up bro he's been what did he say listen this happened and one of the fucking thoughts in the back of my head was fuck when feidelberg finds out about this he's gonna give me so much yo i i don't know if it's because i don't know if it's because of the blackout tour and you guys were just together for so long. When he heard

the story, he was like, Oh, shit! He's the worst person ever. I was looking at his face. I was like, yo, Dante's almost dead. And John's like, I'd already talked to you at that point. He's the worst person ever. So, I'm

thinking, I'm like, fuck. Ian Gass, I'm yes fucking they're probably coordinating what they're gonna send me like the memes and the pictures and i'm like i wonder if they're gonna send it like immediately or wait and make sure that like i'm i'm i'm gonna live that's how you know your boys even when it's a life-threatening altercation, you get a fucking meme. I forget what it was. Two nights later, I met my mom on the couch, fucking ice pack.

I see his name pop up on the phone. I'm like, fuck. It says Providence Stand Up. All these exclamation marks. I'm like, I start laughing. My mom's like, what are you laughing at? I'm like, nothing. Nothing.

If you can't laugh about making this. No, it made me laugh. I was like, I was waiting for this. I told him, I told him, I could go. I don't know if I told him I told him I could go I don't know if I told you this I did tell you

like what I could this is the first time where I can I can have like a real Mark Wahlberg on 9-11 moment like wouldn't happen

if I was there I mean you guys famously fought off like a whole fucking fraternity on the blackout tour to gotta save the laptop yeah and all it takes is one asshole in Providence.

You got old, bro. Father Time caught up with you. I know he doesn't believe me, but I still feel so... That picture will pop up on Twitter. Which one? You and Gaz? The black guy? Just fucking mangled. And I'll see it, and

I won't laugh like you laugh, but I'll be like, fuck, man. I still feel so guilty about all that. Why? Dude, because it was like the most, like, that could have been avoided so easily. Dante was just following two kids, drunk kids with cameras, making fun of them. No. I didn't know that. Oh, it's all Dante's fault. I thought cameras making fun of them. No. I didn't know that.

Oh, it's all Dante's fault. I thought you guys just got jumped. No, Dante instigated it. Now it's making more sense. Now all of this is making more sense. These two kids were walking home, like, fighting. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And we were following them because we were going to our hotel,

which was on the same street. And we were, them because we were going to our hotel which was on the same street and we were like chirping them and at some point I think when we got in front of their fucking frat house they decided like we're not going to fight each other anymore we're going to fight these guys so they turn around and come after me

grab my backpack which my life is in there and then him and Gaz came to the rescue but they got fucking i mean they you fucked up the kids more than you got fucked up which is saying a lot because if you if you see two guys who look like that it's like they lost the fight right you know not like you should see the other guys i felt so bad dude that was one of the funnest nights I've had in a decade You're a psychopath They came back to the hotel

Our production guys were like Horrified Remember they were all fucking in the pool area With a bunch of skanks And then Gaz and John come in And they were just like Oh my god It was like American Horror Story We were dripping blood laughing our asses off Gaz and John come in, and they were just like, oh, my God.

It was like an American horror story. We were dripping blood, laughing our asses off. Well, that's not me. I mean, it was American. It's like, whoo-hoo-hoo! Usually, like, most fights last one punch and a scuffle. Maybe somebody gets a nose busted up. Maybe you get a black eye. To be in, like, a fight, like, multiple guys, multiple guys multiple like and to walk away with one girl

multiple many girls yeah dude i i didn't fight any of the girls but i was throwing them off my back i would give anything dude i'm telling you it was like a video like fucking double dragon where guys just keep coming out like you throw one kid off and like another one would come out he just kept coming yo good for you guys though i mean you beat up a whole frat basically like you took a couple lumps but like six ambulances came wasn't for us weren't for us but that shit is calling ambulance i've gone back i've gone back to miami oh, and I've fucking had in the back of my head, like, I've got to be fucking careful of this fucking frat. They could still do pictures on the wall.

If I walked by that street, I would remember it. I'm sure you would. Dude, it's right on the street. It's not Best Western anymore. It changed. Oh, really? But it's the same hotel, and the house is like half a block up i fucking have seen it 10 times and i'm terrified has anybody do you know the frat no i don't want

any beef with that no i don't i don't i don't want i don't get some boys i like the frat now would be like almost apologetic maybe it'd be funny funny to hear from one – I bet you there's got to be some of those kids who know that, yeah, we fucking beat up Feidelberg and Gazzandante. Hang on a second. Well, we fucked. We got beat up by Feidelberg and Gazzandante. Like, you know, it's just – You were at the Blackout Tour.

It was the peak of Barstool College. You're on campus doing an event for them. Like they – Maybe they didn't know in that moment but after the fact they have to know and nobody has ever like said a word because like francis has a story about him he got beat up by a lobsterman in maine he got the shit kicked out of him we were just we were just talking about and the guy found him on facebook and he was like that was me i'm sorry all this shit like enough time has gone by that i thought somebody maybe would speak up or whatever. But those little pricks are taking it to the grave.

I guess if I got beat up too, like if they decidedly won the fight maybe. But if it was like 10 on 3 and we lost, I'd be like, we're never talking about this again. I still – my only like very clear memory from that fight is still like I was on top of a guy, and then there was a girl choking me over my back. They were the worst. A little flip over. Dude, the girls were vicious. I bet. I bet.

But I was like this, right? And I had a hand up, and as I came like this, I saw someone coming. And in my head, I was like, this is going to hurt. He kicked me in the face so fucking hard. And he fucking punted me dude bro he's sick I know he loves this shit I was just gonna say like like when when yp used to work here they would wrestle every day and it's almost like a dog or like a caveman or something that like has the testosterone that you have to get it out or otherwise like you go crazy and he he needs he needs that and it's back then now he's like calm back then i'm sure it was like looking for it every chance he got he's a sick fuck i've

been i'm more anti-fight than i've ever been i've been anti-fight for a long time. I think you hit an age where you're just like... It's so stupid, dude. It's stupid to be the aggressor. It sucks to get beat up. But you're risking your life if you get caught. Let's say it is just a bar fight,

but I know a guy in a bar fight, a pint glass shattered and somehow slit his throat and he fucking died there's so much now all of a sudden you have a manslaughter case or a fucking murder case you know whatever it's like you don't the people are fucking crazy today we don't know who's an mma fighter we don't know who's fucking bipolar we don't know if they have a knife on them right you don't know if they're gonna wait outside with a gun like right crazy it's just like the risk so polarized so there's literally no reward other than like none i you know you've you wronged me you crossed me and i like won the fight so stupid

so like sitting sitting in a hospital sitting there like with your thoughts trying to be like why the fuck did somebody do this to me? Like, some fucked up shit goes through your head. And I'm not going to lie, thinking like, man, this is because I caused John and Paul to get shit. Oh, you had some karma shit in your head? Yeah, of course I had karma in my head.

I was like, what the fuck? Like, why would somebody do this to somebody for no reason? Of course I was thinking of karma. I'm serious. No, bro. That's just a fucking asshole. A dirtbag, scumbag, prick. I have been working a voodoo doll every night for a decade.

Take my phone. Take my watch. Take my computer. Dude, nothing. Honestly, that guy just wanted blood. He's high. He's high on just wanted blood. I recognize that. He's high on drugs. He's, you know, whatever it is, 24 priors, clearly fucking whack. The detectives were like, you know, like, did you, like, say anything to this guy?

I was like, never fucking saw him in my life. Never spoke to him. That's actually the craziest. They were like, do you have a, you know, do you have a girlfriend or something? No clue. Like, it's one thing, like I said, usually you at least see the person, even if it's for a second beforehand. So right now, put out a lineup, you wouldn't know. They showed me him on the video.

They showed me him on the video. I had no recollection. You have no connection. Never seen him. Never, never, nothing. No. And he almost killed you. That's why I'm like, thank god they got him on video

and thank god the bar security knew who he was and could identify him because they arrested him like five days later i also saw some people in coventry some uh some people were dming you like that they were they were there and like saw it happen that was a wild dm like i saw it but i just honked just keep that one to yourself that guy was crazy he's like i hope i hope you don't like hold it against me yeah you know what's you know what's nuts is there was a homeless guy across the street who came running over screaming like a madman i'm convinced it was like a guardian angel or something really because yeah they were like these girls that were there that started banging on the door for security they got security's attention and this homeless guy but but it was just like

one oh we don't know oh no he was like oh he was wailing on you oh yeah okay i thought it was like a one punch i was like i thought he did that much damage. I read that DM. They saw my scan and there were nine fractures they saw in the scan. When the doctor cut me open on the inside of my mouth, I have all these fucking stitches.

You look great for this. I got mouthfuls. I'm sure. He cut me in there and then went through and opened everything up and he was like, you had way more cracks than were on the scan. He was like, that's why I took an extra

hour. But he's like, I cleaned up all these bone fragments. Yeah, you got to suck all that shit out and stuff. When I woke up, it felt so much better. I was telling Francis, I think one of the benefits of this whole thing is i think my nose was so fucked up happened to him too he said it was the opposite well yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah he cried he fucking made me laugh my ass off with the like whole coke

sorry yeah she's like it didn't work yeah he's like why isn't this working i was like dude i'm the opposite i came out of it and was like, oh my god, I can breathe. Never breathed like this before. Did you have anything wrong with your nose? Like, had you broken it and shit? Yeah, I got a million, like, fucking, you know, knees. You got that beak. It was sticking out there.

I had a bump here that's not here anymore. That's pretty nice. Yeah. Amazing. Like, fucking free rhinoplasty. I was going to say. You're going to hang on Providence more. You're looking a little, yeah, you got a nice little jawline going.

Looking a little better. Imagine that. Nose job and a soup diet. Summer of Dante's coming. The soup diet sucks, bro. I bet, man. Are you like, I mean, can you chew now? I can chew like carrots and chicken soup, but I tried the other night.

My fucking surgeon would gets so mad. Like bread? I tried a real fucking thin piece of pizza, and just like the tension, not good. You feel it like up here and shit. So I'm not going to fuck with it. That was why I asked for your address, by the way. You got some nice Portuguese soups coming your way.

Really? See? He cares more than anybody. It was mostly my dad, but... By the way, nicest guy on the planet. John's dad? Nicest guy on the planet. The best.

I'm going through voicemails. He left me a voicemail like a week ago at 7 in the morning. First off, bold, thinking he was going to me on a saturday morning at seven a.m he left me the most like sincere like nice fucking message like he's a good dude if he we don't know what happened for me but no he's he's always he's always just been class class class but thank thank him for... I felt guilty because I was like, fuck, this is five days later.

I can't send him a text like, hey, thanks for your worship. I'm sure he's been blowing up ever since it was public. It's been like one of those things that redeems your faith in humanity. And at the same time like that's how you view it i view it as a fucking scumbag who can do this to anybody is like god damn this planet is awful yeah but like i guess more people have been good to you than dude the detectives and the

police have been fucking awesome yeah um the people that all witnessed it all gave statements and were like yeah we're we're going to testify. The police were worried that they're going to change their mind or whatever. Yeah, like, is this guy like a fucking – I guess we can't talk about it, but it's like you said in other cases people have not testified. It's like, what are we talking about, Tony Soprano here? What's going on? Just like, I guess, I don't know. It is crazy though it's like what does it

take to fucking put somebody away where it's like i i actually do understand something like this where someone like almost died it's one thing but like if if i witnessed a crime of some sort where there really wasn't like let's say it was a money uh like white collar and you're telling me like if i testify it's gonna be a problem for like me and my family for i'd probably be like oh i don't know i gotta think about that you know something like this it's like you're really a piece of shit if you saw it and just refuse to but it's like what does it take to you know just put someone away and make sure that you don't have to be afraid to testify that's what i mean that's what's kind of frustrating and shocking is you see somebody with that big of a rap sheet and you're like, this. Well, when we had Cameron on, Cameron kind of explained it and I got it.

Where Cameron was like, look, you're in the neighborhood. You know the person. You can't promise me you're putting him in jail. Right. So why am I risking me? And then I have to see him. I don't know how good you are at your job. If you're great at your job, I'll back you up yeah mostly people are very good

at their jobs right by the way cameron awesome dude i was so fucking mad he was awesome dude i'm so mad you had him on it was it was i am obsessed with that instagram account that he yo he is a very did you see his video about Spike Lee? No. It was so good. It was like right after the Knicks got eliminated or maybe not when they got eliminated but when they got their dicks kicked in in game four or five. It's him at gunpoint. A guy has like his hood up over his head and he's like a hostage and he's reading the note and he's like – and it's like from – the hostage is making the victim read. He's like, dear Spike Lee, you are not welcome at the garden anymore.

And he says something like, ever since you've been there, all you do is kiss celebrity's ass. And the guy nudges him and goes, pause, say pause. And the camera's like, pause, pause. You've been kissing guys' asses. Pause. It is so fucking funny. And I was thinking to myself, it's one thing what he's doing with Mace is kind of like just podcasting in a way.

It's just like busting balls and talking. That's like a skit. He was like, oh, let's do this thing. Let's write a letter to Spike Lee and you're the, I'm Ransom and all that shit. That is, you can say he's like this rough and tough street rapper or whatever. At the end of the day, he's like a comedy nerd being like, okay. And then we'll do the pause thing. You know what I mean?

Like, he's smart about it. He's fucking hilarious. He's been trolling the shit out of Jordan Poole. Like, trolling. No, everybody can get it, dude. Like, if you are in the world of sports or music right now, like, don't fuck up. So, where did he say this whole podcast came from? It's the best idea I've seen in a long time.

Whoever convinced him and Mace. Yeah, he was just like people have always told me we're funny. We knew we were funny. I don't know if he really gave a specific. I think he was kind of just like – He was like – Me and Mace made amends and like we just decided to do it. I think it was one of those like I've seen other people in the space like making money and doing it. And like we know we could do it.

So we said, fuck it. Let's go. That's awesome. Yeah. I mean he like – He – Dude, watching him interact with John was so funny because there's been a couple times and actually i don't i don't think i've said this to you but i feel like there was a couple times where

um there were rappers that were like on our list of like doing promo and i was like i don't know it's probably not a great fit for kfc radio and i know john doesn't really listen to that music so like we'll pass and now i'm like let's get all the rappers because watching john and cam run together was fucking hilarious fish out of water dude it water. No, but it was like both of them were like, they were both like awkward, but it was like perfect. When Cameron was talking about music and touring and stuff,

and he was like, you know, I mean, it's like, look at Bruce Springsteen. How old is he? He's still touring. And John goes, 73. And Cameron's like, yeah, you know, it was more of a rhetorical question but i i how old is bruce springsteen 73. is he on tour he's gonna be i know that i know that con tweet the other day okay i wouldn't i wouldn't know bro

i'm not an anti-bruce i'm just not that big of bruce fan crazy that the question was rhetorical, but okay. I just meant that he was old, dude. That was the funniest. That's good that you knew that, but it was more of a rhetorical thing. So fucking good. He is going to just take the world

by fucking storm. If people think that Nori is funny and they like that and Joe Budden, Cameron is another level when it comes to talking shit and making fun of people. Dude, whole other level. And a whole other level of talent, too. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He doesn't get his due, but he's got records. They had influence.

Dipset was a movement that i think kind of gets a little like disrespected he's monster he said on uh on his funk flex freestyle he was like i'll this was like a few years ago he was like i'll go on nori show and like funk flex and everybody else it's 185 000 an appearance and then this is i think it's the only podcast he's done was our show which is just ridiculous to be like joking with that. I know, dude. I saw you post that picture, and I was like, what the fuck is this about? As much as I think he's very cool and was happy to do it, I think he also was just like, I'm going to use these white people and get a bunch of money like Wallow and Gilly did.

So I get it, but it was very cool to have that happen. I mean, for our age, that era of music, oh so now i'm like let's go get everybody we can do rap literally the bridge between jay-z and kanye yeah like it was cameron for like how about him deleting that oh boy verse that is crazy. I know. That was an awesome story you got out of him. He just fucking, like, literally, because I was like, no producer, engineer, whoever is going to, like, delete that. You know, they'll be like, okay, yeah, we're not going to put it out or whatever, but we're not deleting it.

But the fact that he was like, put it in the trash is crazy. I know. That's some spite. So where did you hear that story originally uh where did you ask i think i was just like googling him before the before the um i think i i wanted to talk to him about i wanted to see if i could talk to him about his beef with jay-z i wanted to get something out of him like that and in my experience talking to rappers about anybody they have problems with is apparently too touchy so i was like how am i gonna like casually bring this up in a way and then i think i just kind of stumbled upon that because i don't i hadn't known that

until i didn't yeah dude you like broke that story yeah i i mean it was it was it was already out there but it definitely was not like no i had no idea yeah that's why the way he said it there's a scene in a show or movie that is like very similar to the way he said it when he's like i know the internet yeah i was like why'd you do that i don't know oh i didn't know fuck dude like it's i didn't oh oh oh it's good little hunting when when um when when fucking matt damon is asking robin williams like he's like so he's like you went you went to the games no i didn't go to the game i went hung out with the girl and then matt damon's like would so he's like, you went to the games? No, I didn't go to the game. I hung out with the girl. And then Matt Damon's like, when I pretty much said to him at that game, he goes, I didn't know Fisk was going to go yard.

Or I didn't know Pudge was going to go deep, but I'm pretty sad. That's great. Yeah, man. I mean, that was a bucket list that I didn't even know was ever going to be possible. You know what I mean? Like, you're going to have to re-up with him again,

like somewhere down the line. You can tell. I mean, it's awesome that you kind of gave him a little pub like that and developed that relationship. You can tell that show is so in its infancy. Dude. I don't even know if they have 100,000 followers on it yet. It was so...

When I heard... The headline was cameron challenges mario chalmers to one-on-one i was just like where how what and then i went uh then i saw like an article that said the podcast so i went on like uh apple like audio podcast and i'm searching for it i don't i think they just put it on youtube so i was like what and it was on episode like four i was like, what? And it was on episode, like, four? I was like, this shit just, just, just, just started. So, yeah, I mean, they're going to, I think they're going to take over the whole fucking game. Hello Fresh.

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It's actually 32. You've been doing the backstage stuff for a while but also have just become one of the main bloggers. One of the main consistent writers on the site now. I don't think I realized you had in you.

I mean, you write longer form and dig into shit. Well, I mean, Lori Lightfoot has fucking nightmares about you on iTunes. Chicago politicians, watch out! Not anymore. The dawn is coming for that ass. She rode off into the sunset. Bro, if there's ever an example of don't get into politics, it's her before and after.

Dude. You know, when they're like, look how much the president ages you. It's like, okay, he got gray hair. Lori Lightfoot went from a woman to a creature. Isn't that crazy? I sent that to Spider like two years ago, that before and after. He is convinced it's Photoshopped. I pulled it off like a meme thing.

I'm like, no, dude. That's just her. That's her law firm shot. Gross, man. That's crazy. Dude, I've said before in your blogs, I just love the two wolves inside you, where it's like there's one DJ Dante and the guy who's just fucking storming around his apartment angry about local politics

it really i did not know that side of you at all even even like the conspiracy theories and all that shit it's just like like you're you're there at the club until like 4 a.m., but in the back of your mind, you're like, I really think the aliens built those pyramids, bro. There's just no other explanation for it. Yeah, another round. Another round of Red Bull vodka. Let's go. Get a bottle of Ace of Spades. Let me tell you about the fucking White Stonehenge is there.

You're like simultaneously like a 26-year- year old nabitha and also a 70 year old man on facebook it's the best it really is so true it's so true you're like your uncle on on facebook you really are it makes for a good blog though i mean oh no it's been i mean guys such as yourself left a pretty huge void, you know, so. No, but you really are feeling like, I mean, there are times where sometimes I see a headline and I go to the blog and it's not there and I'm like, like, that drives me crazy. And a lot of times you'll, you'll be the, or, or I'll see a tweet from the main account that interests me and I click on it and you're the one who wrote it.

Like more often than not not that's what happens so you've uh that's why I mean honestly that's why I I started like writing over COVID I mean you guys all is that really like you never did any sort of like did you know you could write it all until then no man not like to the extent where I actually had confidence and it kind of sucks because I'm like what if like what if i was fucking doing this shit back when it was me and neil in chicago yeah like not like i would fucking be on big cats level or your level but i fucking you know yeah it's just a lot more years under your belt i was gonna say you i mean at the same time though, I remember being like, oh, he's just like the Blackout tour DJ, and then learning

that you own clubs all over the country or some shit. I was like, oh, wait a minute. You're like a real human. Because that Blackout tour was not humans. You were just all creatures. They were all morons and creatures, and then I was like, oh. You were at more than you're like a nightlife.

You were at more than you care to admit you were. I think any time we were in Manhattan, which was a few times a year. Irving Plaza, Roseland Ballroom, Paramount Theater. I was there. Yeah, you were in the fucking green rooms every show. No, no, I'm not. Yeah, I'm not. That's not. I'm not that's not i'm not we did it i remember the mayhem show we did in long island you were there that was that

was also my fault the shit out of that one what did i do dude you remember you showed up in your blue onesie i still have that picture yeah that was when the um what were those things called dude we they had just gone viral it was like uh what was it called it was a famous um yes snuggies had just gone viral so i i got a snuggie and i showed up in that there's one picture it's super awkward because i'm like in i'm like it's not like a posed picture i was like walking so i'm like my arms are all weird and it's me in the snuggie but what did i say we showed we showed up at this place and it was like brand new basically yeah this theater it was in a beautiful like neighborhood like main street yeah yes it was the paramount yeah and we were in the green room and

it was like the first nice green zone i've ever been in yeah showers yes bathrooms that were clean catering spread and you were like yo this is way too fucking nice for us this place has no fucking clue what's about to hit it tonight and sure enough they had no fucking clue they had like four security guards

we were like guys I remember Gaz was like guys I don't think we're coming on security and they were like please we had like Guys, I remember Gaz was like, guys, I don't think we're covered on security. And they were like, please, we had Rick Springfield here the other night or something like that. They were like, that was nuts. And we were like, yeah, this is going to be a little crazier. That was also the beginning, I think, of when the Blackout Tour started to become this renegade.

Dude, I don't know. That was the show, though, that they got so fucking scared they pulled the fire alarm on themselves well and then looking out like i walked out onto like wait wait wait wait that's what happened yeah they pulled the fire alarm like i played for 15 minutes and then it was we yeah because i remember also evacuate everybody and then all these kids fucked up poured out onto the streets yes and we're puking in flower beds that's when i think that was all off they found two kids fucking in the dumpster in pleasant and then fucking paper the next day was like worst thing ever worst thing that ever hit our city i remember i walked i walked out onto a fire escape, and I just watched the carnage.

And it was for real like watching World War Z from the top of a building. It was just like bodies strewn. I think the extent of their security was like four bike racks. People were just like carrying those, throwing them to cars. It was fucking nuts. I remember there was something with the fire alarm, and we had big balloons and balls on a net above, right? And I think it was supposed to be for the finale almost. At the end, you cut the ropes, and they all fall, and people knock them in the air.

And I think there was... Our boy Walsh shot me in that operation. Well, I remember when... He's the balloon drop guy. Shout out Walsh shot man that yeah operation well I remember when drop guy shout out Walsh when shit started to go south the crowd got restless and I remember we just started throwing out t-shirts and just trying to keep them occupied and I was like just fucking cut the ropes let them play with the fucking balls and then apparently that that had something to do with that some sensors yeah because like like if something like up up was hitting the ceiling, the sprinklers or the alarms thought that it was

smoke or whatever it was. So I was like, just fucking give them the balls. And then because the balls kept going up, the alarm wouldn't shut off. It would stop and then somebody would hit it and it would go back off again. I was like, that was Zolo's idea. I didn't tell him to do that. I just remember watching the news

and they had a Beat Reporter out there. And that whole street was all these nice mom-and-pop restaurants. And they fucking flooded the kids out on the streets while people were in the middle of dinner. And people were like, we were eating dinner. And then it was all these kids in neon. All these kids in neon throwing stuff and puking.

Everyone was just screaming, all I do is fucking party. Now, I guess it would have been a little bit later at night so maybe it would have been a little more acceptable but that was always

going to happen. At some point, that crowd was going to leave. But I just remember like Paul and Zolo, everyone was like, fucking KFCfc like don't ever come to another fucking that was a big time mush that was a big time mush big time that was and then like my favorite thing ever was when the blackout tour really turned into like this is a ecstasy murder party and uh the roseland ballroom like shut down like like canceled the event or whatever.

And at the time, I think it was Greg Kelly, somebody Kelly, was the police commissioner. And he had to do a press conference. And they were like, do you think that your security task force is capable of handling this? And he was like, of handling the dance party? I think we can do that. I think we'll be good. And then they would show footage

that the news would be like, look at the carnage that ensues. And it was like somebody knocked over one of the barricades outside. Or like one person hopped over a barricade. That was it. It was crazy. They didn't serve alcohol. We had to smuggle our own into the game. I remember smuggling it in with

Caitlin at the time. She had nips all over her outfit and everything. Dude, that fucking place. I think she had nips down her shoulder. That place has had insane clown posse to the Rolling Stones there. And they were like, yeah, we've never had a show where we couldn't serve alcohol before.

The Rolling Stones showed up with the Hells Angels as their security guards, and they were like, yeah, we'll have a party here. Dude, that's that. I don't know that... I was talking with Dave about K.O. Barstool in general, too.

We never were the renegade pirate ship until they started coming after us, and I don't know if the Blackout tour, it probably in the long run did harm because it just eventually we had to stop. But I think at some point it was a good thing because people were like, yo, we got to check this out. And then when it was just like an EDM party, I'm sure they were like, but whatever, it sold tickets.

I mean, it was crazy, but it wasn't dangerous. There were also, like John remembers dangerous there were also like john remembers there were also so many other moments that if dave were around oh man that they could have i mean he would have just it would have just fueled the fire like we were in south carolina one time and bible thumpers were protesting us calling us like the same party and like do you remember that not really bro it really was out it was like church people and that like kind of sucked because it wasn't like little like fucking feminist weirdos it was like people you're like yeah it's kind of like my aunt like i. I mean, it was not dangerous.

But it was wild. I mean, it was a wild party. It was like people getting jerked off in the foam and fucking tits were out. Girls shaking their ass on stage. It was really like the last one. You know what I mean? I'm sure EDC and Ultra and all that shit, the big big ones are still doing it, but... Please, they went corporate. We never went corporate.

Yeah, I was going to say, you stayed pretty fucking grimy. Dante shot people in the face. I always... Not always, but it crosses my mind pretty often. Like, what if somebody tried to do that today? It would never be possible. Dude, if you watch just the fucking hype videos that we today? It would never be possible. Dude, if you watch just the fucking hype videos that we made,

it would never be possible. You couldn't even post the trailer. I know. The sizzle. I mean, I remember looking back at it, and I was like, damn, I need a minute alone. We were doing it at the XL Center at UConn, which was where I later that night bedded a woman

who was the first person to ever call me daddy she was the first person to call anybody daddy I was like what the fuck was that all about the first one bro you better watch that

sweetheart have you ever heard of anybody prior to that saying daddy that was what like 2011 yeah

nobody was no chicks were calling anybody daddy yeah daddy I was like chill out Alexander Cooper but the we were I remember we did the Excel Center I was like, chill out, Alexander Cooper.

But we did the Excel Center. And I remember I was sitting with Dave before that. And it wasn't like an active thing. But I just felt the energy in the room where I was like, we are both praying somebody doesn't die tonight. You ever see the backstage Beyonce that everyone holds their hands and praying? It wasn't the active thing because we were interfaith. But it was just like, I hope someone doesn't drown in foam tonight. Like, I just really hope it doesn't happen.

The story about the foam guy just blasting people in their mouth. Dude, remember when they went Zamboni? I remember in Delaware watching them Zamboni it up and just waiting for it to run over a body. Because it was so deep. I was like, there's got to be a body in there. I mean, there was piss. There was cum. That foam had it all, man.

I remember when we were wrapping up year four, which is fucking mind boggling. We did that thing for four years. Four years. We were wrapping up in Myrtle Beach. And I remember we were all like joking around but serious like can you guys believe no one ever fucking died in any of these shows we were like

it's fucking dead serious realistically like for four years of a chaotic crazy party like what three injuries like someone broke a leg and that was like some shit like I don't know man if I went to a venue and i slipped at like i wouldn't fucking sue the place for breaking my leg i slipped that's shitty like what happened i probably would sue if the dj

shot me in the face with a cork probably would do that fucking dave mattest dave i'm sure honestly as much as you do you think we should get that insurance mr feidelberg suggested fucking paying insurance what do we need insurance for don't shoot fucking people in the face with confetti blasters that probably that probably unfortunately sealed your your like relationship with dave it was just always going to be that way after that dude i i remember the whole fucking first like two years being like hey man this thing's like starting to make some money can i start getting paid dude do you know how in the red i am as soon as i'm in the black i'll take care of you i promise i promise I promise. Okay, year three. We're selling like 8,000 tickets to the show.

I was going to say. He was making like 250 grand a night at one point. I'm advancing these shows. I know what the numbers are. Can I start getting paid now? Yeah, when I stop getting lawsuits for you shooting kids in the face. Blah, blah, blah. He's always had something.

Yo, you also, because there was there was there was the big uh i could put anybody in there you know anybody can just press play and i will say two things one that that i think was probably the original i don't know what number maybe it was one maybe it was like 10 the original like dante mega mix with the all we do is fucking party like blend was legendary and it might have been a mistake but when you were blacked out at mad river philly and you played mince's in paris eight times in a row and like the next day kanye did that at the watch the throne tour they played it like 10 times in a row and i was like they did that last night my favorite thing about it and then jay- I was like, Dante did that last night. Dave was pissed about it.

And then Jay-Z was like, I'm going to do that. That night, we were at Mad River Philly. And Dave was like, he played it again. He played it again. We just heard this three times. He played it again. And you were on on that night. And you were just ripping Patron nonstop.

That place was a black hole. Oh, man. I meet people from Philly all the time, and we'll just be like, hey, did you ever find a Mad River in Manioc? Oh, my God. Like, everybody has stories. There's a Mad River in New York as well, and it's like a typical. But no place has stories like that place.

Yeah, I mean, that was so funny, though. And they're like, wait, did you ever play there? I'm like, yeah, we did a blackout show there when we weren't really blackout tour. Dude, and then we had the Villanova smokes were there, Casey Donald, her blonde friend, who were the most gorgeous girls the world had ever seen at that point. It was pre-Instagram, and it was just like, there are normal girls who look like this? And those guys were, to their credit, they were so on the barstool train before we were anything. Big time.

They took such good care of us. We threw the best fucking parties there. But yeah, I remember Dave was so pissed. Like, I could pay anyone to do this. But then it was the best party ever. And all he fucking was focused on was, you're so fucked up, you play the same fucking song like 10 times. That week, I swear to God,

it was like every... He was the first drunk DJ ever. MSG. Like every fucking blog. It was like Hot New Hip Hop and Dad Piff. All these websites would be like, Kanye played it eight times in a row. It was the coolest move ever.

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It sucks, man. What would you play? Tell me honestly as someone who's like, I feel like you're musically well-rounded, even if you did the EDM parties and shit, but you know all the music. I don't think it's like old man yelling at the cloud to say it's worse now. it's so like if there's a

tangible difference in music and i know every generation is always going to say that about their music but whether it's like the tiktok thing where songs are just made for like a minute and 57 seconds and you gotta have your tiktok moment or whether it's that we're just pulling people out of obscurity and they're not really talented whatever it is if you look at the era of like 2000 to two like right around the blackout tour that 10 12 year period and the 10 or 12 year period after it it's night and day there were hits after hits classic album after album you look at like one year and they'll be like a jay-z album and a dmx album a miley cyrus album like oh you know everybody has classics and now it's like

i i just i know i might be the old man but i don't think it's the same it's 100 not and uh it does it sucks as like someone who i'm definitely not djing like i i used to part of its fucking age and gray hair and i can't stay up till four in the morning yeah i don't know how you did as long as you did do it dude yeah me neither like after after that break of covid and then trying to do you know some bigger shows again and like looking at my watch and being like oh my god it's fucking one in the morning i still got three hours that's like how the fuck did i do this for someone who can't drink red bull and shit like what do you do dude i i used to have no problem i think i was just so fucking used to it and then

getting into like a normal person's routine and then trying to do that again it was just not possible yeah so i play i try to i do like vegas and like big shows now. So what do you play? Old shit? Or are you playing old Spice and shit? There's some good current stuff, but it's just so much trash, like you said. And it's so much about... But what happened?

Did producers in the game change? Did A&Rs change? Did labels? I think it's a lot. I think obviously everything moves in waves and phases. And I think, sadly, we were in such a golden era of hip hop. I didn't even realize it. And that started to transition.

And it was such perfect timing with the golden age of dance music and EDM coming on where they kind of like seamlessly transition. So you and I, that era of hip hop will, will never happen again. And it was because like, it just hit the sweet spot with the artists. It was still relatively new when you think about it like teams

that everyone had there was like kind of a rivalry but it wasn't like you know dangerous anymore and it was fun like hip-hop was fucking just fun back then guys were putting out songs even girls are putting out songs that like with the objective of like making people dance or bob their head yeah now it's just like flexing and well do you think there's a shift in that do you think that and i'm glad you used the word flexing because almost there was a shift in like nightclub culture too where it used to be like everyone wants to go dance to everyone wants to go sit in a booth and flex and be like look at my they don't like do you think that can't is kind of a chicken or the egg thing like do you think it was people wanted to be in a booth first so

they made music that doesn't really dance or do you think people made music that doesn't really dance music so they just went to booth it. It's cell phones, to be honest. It's fucking advent of phones and just everybody, like you said, at a table. Yeah, taking pictures of their bottles. Videos of their bottles. Selfies of, like, rapping to songs. Well, it's objectively gay to dance, you know what I mean? Like, dancing was always, it's like,

I don't dance, you know, lean back type shit. But it's like, when good DJs and good songs, like, people, if it's like i don't dance you know lean back type shit but it's like but when good djs and good songs like people if it's not dancing it's like you know you're waving your hands you're spraying the bottle you're jumping like you don't have to like literally be dancing but you're like it moves the crowd versus like it's basically it comes down to i think like it's it's what brands think about and then i think we've talked about how like everyone on the internet now thinks they're a brand too and it's because it's not instagrammable to be on the dance floor having fun right it's instagrammable to be in a booth being cool and same thing with the song yo i listened i actually think it's actually put that on the list of instagrams ruined nightclubs or

the internet ruined nightclubs i i think it's actually a pretty good album So I feel bad using it as an example But Jack Harlow's new album Is like actually some rap music But we were on the road when it dropped And I put it on And I took a shower And I brushed my teeth And then the first track was on again

Like it was so short It was like 7 songs and they were all like 2 minutes long The whole album was like 18 minutes So that's a label thing And that's through focus groups and studies and just charting data if you do is these kids have no attention span anymore but yes you're right but it's like fuck that like like any era of kids is not going to have an attention span we just started listening to them and making music according to that rather than being like, I don't care that you will only listen to the song

for two minutes. I'm going to make it four because that means I can do three verses and a bridge and a chorus and a refrain. And now we're just like, what do the 12-year-old kids do? Let's do that. Of course the 12-year-olds

are going to have an attention span and they're not going to care about lyrics and they're not going to, you know, blah, blah, blah, because they're dumb fucking kids. Somewhere along the line, and I don't know where this happened but i i've noticed it the last couple years it became standard used to be what three song or three verses in a song bridge couple chorus of bridge yeah now it's like two verses max and they're like eight bars max and that's it

right and it's like chorus chorus done bang because they know they got their tiktok sounds and that's exactly there's got to be the clip for tiktok and it's in and out but it's like you can still do all of that and then have two more verses and a refrain and all like it's it's you don't lose that but i'm sure they're just like well that's you know you could have churned out a whole other two minute song in that same amount of time use that verse for an entire different track and we double up but it's like i don't know i i think that there's a there's i'm sure the music industry's fine and they're not hurting but i don't know some level they have to one of the one of the craziest things to me in like the last year is that little uzi i just want

a rock song it's literally like a minute 30. Yeah. I didn't even know it was like a song. Yeah. I thought it was just like a, I don't know, like an interlude almost. He's just,

I just wanna rock, I just wanna rock over and over and over again. That's it. Dude, and that's like a top 10 song for months now. Yeah. It's like,

this is what this generation is like into right now. I mean, you know, God bless them and I'm sure we sound old, but I just think that like when you look at some of the lyrics of rap songs,

some of the beats from producers, some of the hooks from the party people, you know, that era is... If you go to a club, even a bar that has the DJ, they're still playing the same swizz beats.

Right, right. Like, that stuff is timeless. Do you know the Road podcast? Yeah, of course. Those are my guys. And they do residencies in Vegas. And they are like, we play all the old, like, what's in vogue right now is all the old hip-hop and shit. Because it's like, I don't know.

Focus groups, do focus groups on that. Because there's something tangible about that that era whether it's the way they did the hooks the way they did the beats whatever it was that shit made people move so it's like i hope they don't sell out you know eventually the pendulum's got a swing right like like you said things come in waves i just when is it gonna i don't know man or does it just keep getting worse? I don't know. The EDM thing is kind of in the same boat. It's the same songs from that Blackout Tour era are the ones that are really setting the places off. I mean, that era, when you had like Geta and Avicii and Sebastian Ingrosso or whatever,

I mean, there was like 10 of them. Dude, it was Calvin Harris that all just put out fucking – I used to hate that. I don't say hate that because I remember like Better Off Alone back in like the 90s, those songs. There was always like one or two Venga Boys. There was one or two dance hits that I was like, those are cool. But I was never like a house music club guy. And then even I was like, these are all fucking bangers i think what you're like describing is like what the issue is basically with anything in any industry we talk about an article i read a while ago um how

moneyball ruined american culture because it gave someone the power to go look here's the data so like basically in any creative field and i know you've dealt with this at Barstool and you've dealt with it in other places, where it's like once you get big enough, you're creative trying to fight with someone who's just trying to save their job. They just don't want to get fired. And someone can point to the data and be like, look, this is how songs get big. And that saves their job. Versus letting you take a risk and be like, no, this is how songs get big and that saves their job. Versus letting you take a risk and be like, no, this is going to be different. I think music industry used to be about your ear.

Diddy had the best ear who would just be like, that sound is awesome. The people are going to love it. And nine times out of ten, he was right. But now with, I don't know, with data, you can be ten times out of ten right, so you don't even have to have your ear for it. You don't even have to have a feel for it.

I could not agree more. So it's just numbers. Melissa McCarthy had said that, where like, you saw it was Hollywood. You saw it was complained about the suits, and like, there's such a pain in the ass. And they were. But you could get a suit in a room who was like, I think this is a good idea. You can't have that argument with the data anymore. You can't talk to an algorithm.

You can't talk to a computer. Well, this is what it says like i don't care what it says this is interesting this is unique this is different and also eventually like you gotta do something i don't know it's got to be somebody takes a risk or is like i don't care what the data says and then that movie wins an oscar that album wins a grammy and somebody goes oh wait wait a minute not everything does need to be a two-minute tiktok video it can be a real song again or a real movie again or whatever the people like trying to we talked about this recently when we were up with the token not token ceo uh camp ceo people where it's like when you get when you get to that level and you're dealing with those people who are just trying to save their jobs rather than create something cool um they're always pivoting

and it's always like well this is what we're doing now let's pivot and you kind of said it with the ways where it's like it's better to just try and do a little bit of it rather than stay in the course full pivot because that's what fox sports did when they fired every writer because they were like we're pivoting the video and then it turned out that all those algorithms are wrong all those algorithms are fugazi and say well maybe let's not just do these hard pivots all the fucking time right let's try and do something unique while also giving that it's the attention it deserves right but also like staying true to ourselves and change the sound a little bit push the the genre but you know you don't need to like completely abandon rap music because it happened

in sports where everyone's just focused on the same metrics and yeah hockey was with the core c and shit like that and then it was like well it still has to pass an eye test like you're right that yes he's got a great course right now but like when i watch him i'm he never catches my eye press i'm never like oh i noticed blake was on the ice yeah like it is and i think that everything kind of corrects back a little bit so the eye test is a great point you're bringing up and you guys this is a great question to ask you guys because you guys are like the opposite of chicken little like i feel like you guys never think the world is ending and things aren't as bad as people make them seem but what do you think about this whole ai revolution and not just with music i think music's fucked

music might be in trouble. Right. I think the best way when any of those things start, the best way to handle it is rather than fight it, be like, how can I use it? Because it's not going to stop. Like, the people have the technology in their hands. And maybe there'll be some legislation and litigation against people using it but for the most part like if if drake called up that ghostwriter 77 dude and said like let's make a video maybe making a whole song together is a bit much but let's make a video for social media and let me like lean into this a little bit that would have been at the very at the very least you would have had a viral video

to your advantage that's a really good idea you know and i remember when we uh maddie fun times was his name he was this guy used to make mike francesa photoshops he put his face on the pope and all these things when i used to blog about francesa a lot i would always use them he put the worst watermarks on them ruined the picture so i used to crop the watermark out which is a dickhead move but whatever and he got like so mad and you know threatened to like sue me and all this shit and we kind of had a back and forth and i remember him saying like if you had just said to me like yo man i i put some work into that like you cropped out my watermark that's fucked up but can you give me a shout out or put it back in or whatever i probably would have done

it and i probably would have like not hired you but paid you for it if you were like hey and by the way i can do photoshops for new york sports and for because at that point in the blog world having like millmore type photoshops were like invaluable i was like you probably could have got like a car not a career a job out of this but instead you were a dickhead about it so now fuck you so i think it's always better to lean into whatever you think is threatening you and just try to figure out a way to to like use it like i don't we it's not easy enough for like dummies like us yet but i think the minute that i can just like do some ai shit on my phone and we can like make a podcast out of it or something like that'll be you know a kfc radio ai video ai podcast i'll put it out and see what it does like see get a bunch of downloads from it try to That'll be a KFC Radio AI video, AI podcast.

I'll put it out and see what it does. Get a bunch of downloads from it. Try to fucking get views off of it because it's not going to stop. Yeah, it's definitely not going to stop. I have a – I don't want to say I'm a contrarian because I'm not. But the internet, everything is always such an overreaction. And I'm always like, well, you're not going to think that way in three months. So I don't want to jump on it.

I'm sure things will change a little bit. But I don't think it's the end of the world. I don't think it's chaos. I don't think it's crazy. I don't think it's like... When you talk about music in particular, if you're like... I've said this to Kevin a bunch of times, so he's probably like we know john um but it's like uh when like i don't know if you if you showed me an ai song but oh it's a pretty good song and then you were like ai wrote it and i was like oh okay i don't really care anymore because i think like but i do think you might i don't know about the

minority i don't know if you're the minority on that one because i'm sure a lot of people feel that way but i do think there's probably people who don't. I think there are people who are just like – like there are people who don't know who writes the songs or what the lyrics mean and they're just like, I just like the sound. This is crazy because we're all same wavelength right here. to get and this is like over the past month but i've had this same exact scenario uh where it's kind of like a not chicken versus egg but just one of those things so say you're on spotify and you're spotify for use suggesting songs you hear this song you've never heard before and it's fucking awesome holy shit who is this you click the band name never heard of these guys before go to their page listen to six more songs and four of them are just as good like holy shit send it to your friend group guys check this band out i just discovered

they're fucking awesome listening songs. Your friends listen to them. A bunch of them like them, too. You think you discovered this hot new band. Which I was going to say, by the way, is the best thing in the world. When you discover new music, you're the man, right? You're the man. Yeah. One of your buddies fires back, I just looked this up.

This is a robot group. This universal music just put out and blah, blah, blah. Does that no longer make the music good? Are you like, fuck. To me, I think you would say yes. Or are you like, fuck it. Good music is good music. I wouldn't like if the song came on in the car again in the future,

I wouldn't lunge from the backseat and change the song. I'd be like, whatever. But i wouldn't seek it out anymore because like i i think with with music with tv with movies with like what we're all trying to do is see ourselves in a little bit and when you when you're like oh a fucking machine wrote that there's like relatability is the biggest thing of all time and like no longer am i like oh like i feel what that person felt i've gone through that person went through i'm just like oh this is like a fucking robot algorithm made for me like i'm like almost i don't want to say insulted by it but i'm like fuck them for thinking i'd care about this yeah i well with music i mean did did did the music world go through the same thing when like electronic music started oh like like when people

were like you know i have my little beat pad beat machine people didn't like respect that you're right it went from there was a huge transition it was almost like revolution uh or industrial revolution when things went from analog to digital right so all these because then you're like oh a computer's making this song it's not exactly there was like i don't know all these producers or all these artists that were like this is cheating right it's not it's not this is a little bit more now but now it's the norm right now everybody does it now every studio you go and it's all computers if you if you were a dj who was using digital and you were blending other people's verses with other people's beats. I'm sure there were people who were like, that's not a real song.

You're just stealing and cheating. But we accepted that. I think that's different than the lyrics and the story. Exactly. It still has a human element because up until now, humans were still writing. I mean, you can literally go to some of these fucking chat GBT type things and put in like, write me a song about so-and-so, so-and-so, and so-and-so

like Luke Combs. I mean, it'll suck, but it'll sound like... Put something out for you. That's a pretty important word to use there. Which is gonna get better though. That's what's scary. This is the very first iteration. So like mean when when when that drake song came out the drake song with the weekend people were like this is better than the real drake song put out exactly what do you do

when that happens i'm with john i'm like if this isn't if this isn't it does doesn't have like the human touch to it like it doesn't do it for me but i'm afraid like these kids today they don't fucking know the difference they don't give a shit what's to me like i have i'm very my my uh standards for like rap are very high my standards for pop are like whatever the beat's good and you have a catchy hook i'll listen to it so like to me it's like i don't know when they used to make a boy band by just grabbing a bunch of 15-year-old boys and throwing them together, they don't write the music. They don't write the lyrics. We just use their face and their falsetto voice.

To me, that's almost just as much of a bastardizing of music as anything. But I think if it was just a party song, I'm okay with it. I'm not going to listen to the lyrics and be like, wow. I guess with rap, a punchline I might, but a Taylor Swift song, if I know what computer is saying, this means nothing. You can trick me into thinking the song is good, but then once you tell me it wasn't, I'm like, okay, I'm not going to seek it out anymore. And you're not going to love the band and buy their merch. That's also how you make money, right right and touring and merch and shit like that no one can't do that for a fake you know but also there is a limit i think you know a lot more about this than me so you you can definitely correct me but like i don't understand how it's

it'll alter like the creation of music but when people are like drake's gonna be out of a job like well it can't go on Spotify. You can't put a Drake song on Spotify, or I guess you can, but then Spotify's like, wait, it's not them. They'll take it off. So musicians are still going to have jobs. It's like when Jay Pharoah first started doing rap, or Ari Spears. Jay-Z's out of a job.

Ari Spears can do his voice. Yeah, there is a level of it is, people have been doing impersonations and impressions and jacking styles for a long time. There was a while for that with Apple where like – I forget who – it might have been – it was Titanium. Titanium wasn't on Apple and they just had like a cover person do the music and it was like – Nobody wanted to listen to it. It was like this is a Titanium song.

Yeah, that's fucking trash. It's not Titanium. I don't know. I don't know where it goes i i do think though like you could probably have your ai on like soundcloud something that's not like regulated as much right and if it's like i don't know if that if timbaland put that biggie verse over a timbaland beat the other day like i kind of wanted to hear that you know like i was the same way and my my first there are some people whose gut reaction is like this is wrong this is impure or something and i'm just kind of like i kind of want to hear it you know and that's how i was with the new york state of mind like that was incredible i was that was so cool i'm like this is you know everything

it's the new version of like when you took a tupac verse and put it on a biggie beat and right now it's like but now you can just do it with new lyrics that sound like the guy so i don't know i i think that some variation of this has always existed this is probably a little bit like faster and and more extreme but think also the internet plays such a big part in things now because there's so much groupthink and mass hysteria it's over I don't know man the one I always reference

is when people are like AI did fucking NFL mascots these all suck they're all the same thing and they all suck I'm not pretending like it's not gonna matter and it's not gonna be a thing but like just like anything in society

everyone will overreact for a little while and then it'll over it'll over not overcrack but it'll come back to earth and be yep now this is a part of something we do but it's not i i think finding it's not life-changing it'll be like all right here this makes this a little easier this makes this a little easier i think what needs to happen is something you've said before where it might be happening a little bit. Like sometimes my kids are mad if I have my phone out and I'm taking a video of them and shit. They're like, put it away, put it away. When the first generation of people who are like, it's lame to do AI, to use technology, all that. But I don't know if that happens because it's so convenient and you can make money.

Like everything – it's just better, better, better. But if there's one generation that's like we're going back to like we're not on social media. We don't spend all day in front of a screen. It would probably take some like post-apocalyptic movie type shit for that to happen. But that's the only way I see it like going backwards. It might like pendulum swings a little bit but I don't know know if it'll ever just stop and go all the way back. I don't think it'll be mass, but it is like... Cool kids or something.

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Again, that is $30 off with promo code KFC. You guys weren't technically pioneers of podcasts but you were very early to platform and how have like you guys have sustained not just the longevity but your audience you've continued to grow it

you've evolved but you haven't pivoted hard like you said how is that like all gone especially like i can only imagine when this surge happened where it's just so saturated fucking everybody in the world has one i mean we're just talking about cameron who he's one of the good ones to come along in a while but there's been so many other people with that kind of clout who just all of a sudden launch one i guess yeah and it's like they cut so many corners yeah i mean i always

joke whenever we interview like a really famous person who starts a podcast i'm like fuck you because i met whitney cummings first podcast dave grohl on the show you know and it's like that was her first that's her first friend that she can call up her first favor you know and i was like fuck you you're already rich and successful and talented and now you got to do my lane this is supposed to be for the idiots who can you know can't make it all the way but i i think i would be much more threatened if like if you're a podcast that's like doing a bit or doing a you know kind of like uh a little theme to it or something like that. Nobody can do what we do. You can do similar, but if you like me and him, you got to come here for it.

It's our personal stories. It's our personal takes. You can get two white guys, mediocre, funny, telling jokes, but if you just like us. So I was always like, I don't know, let everybody do it. It actually was a good thing. It made podcasting like everybody's spending money on podcasting now. So I always thought it was a good thing. But if I was like, I'm doing like a sports gimmick,

and then people who were bigger, funnier, and better came along doing a sports gimmick, I'd be like, fuck. But I don't think anybody can do what we do. So I think it's actually, let's make it as popular as possible. I think it's actually funny. You're asking a lot – as popular as possible. I think it's actually funny. You're asking a lot of the same questions we had with the Camp CEO people. But I think it's like just organic is – and like we were just saying with like the pivoting. We never pivot.

Like TikTok is way bigger. I mean we pivoted off of writing. Like we were all bloggers and we were basically done with that. But that was a slow – like we weren't just like doink't i never was like i'm done writing right it just kind of happened too busy yeah it wasn't like i'm stopping writing it's just like we got too much other stuff to do and writing is a lot harder than people think it is where you need like a full day to sit down and blog yeah and when you have even just little things throughout the day it's like i don't have time to sit here and blog but the but everything else you're right it's not a pivot

it's just been like a little it's like like we've never gone – and much of this is to our detriment, but I think it keeps us at least like real. We're like – it's never like, oh, TikTok is good. We're only doing clips. And it's like, well, no. Sometimes we'll think of a segment that might make a better clip, but we're never changing completely what we do in order to fit that. Again, it's probably to our detriment. Well, I think it's a little bit tortoise in the hair i think there were definitely times where i was like we're missing out

and i wish that i was bigger on tiktok i wish i was more focused on this thing that thing the other thing and then like that shit falls off and i was like you know what i'm kind of happy i stayed the course and i think just within the last like couple years i think i was like we did it right and like we have all these guests everybody respects us and then we put in our time and had we just become like tiktok sellouts maybe we wouldn't have got there you know but there were definitely times where i was like oh like we missed that boat we miss this boat we keep missing the boats like let's not miss the boats and then you know what i remember clubhouse i was like we're not missing this one clubhouse is good it's audio we audio. We can do that. Let's do Clubhouse.

What the fuck happened at Clubhouse? I actually don't know the answer to that one, but they had it for a second. I know, that was going to be the next huge thing. Be Real had it too, and they fucked that up too. But that's why you never completely change for something you sing. You just

change for a girl, and don't change for your fucking social media. Because, like you said, it change girl and don't change but i give you guys credit for that because like you said it's so tempting so it's so easy and how much money we would make if me if me and him just became 2a guys we went right wing fucking nuts and just love kyle rittenhouse would be rich no for real the the example i used at that camp ceo thing was i remember during the 2016 election that everyone was trying to get their votes, obviously, and all that stuff, and I saw Hillary Clinton on Ellen dabbing, and everyone

was making fun of her, and then Bernie Sanders went on, and he was just like, I don't do that stuff. And I was like, that's cool! That's who he is! He's on the show, at least. He's doing what he can, but he's not going to be someone completely who he isn't, and I was just like, that's pretty cool. We are Bernie Sanders on Ellen on ellen yeah that's the case your radio i'll try my best i'll be here

i'm not gonna do something that's just completely out of character for me i'm gonna i'll come to you on your platform i'll use your platform the way i use it but i'm not gonna just like fucking bend to your will for everything yeah yeah i think you guys have like set the tone not to like suck your dicks or anything but you guys have like set the tone and become kind of like the template for not just a lot of the newer shows, but some of the older ones. And part of it's because of your longevity and consistency. And part of it is the things you have leaned into have been home runs and really benefited the bread and butter.

We're a good example. The One Minute Man stuff has been huge. The internet was a big one. It's not like you abandoned KC Radio for that. I think if you're lucky and talented enough that you just

jump on a meteor and you just ride it to the top then like go do your thing i think we're a pretty good example of that if you don't get that initial like right to the top like here's how to do it and just like steadily go so i think i'm pretty pretty proud of doing that but um i think that's an age thing too i think oh yeah because i don't care anymore these young bucks are like if it's not instant immediate but, because you have to get – You also don't care anymore. These young bucks are like, if it's not instant – Immediate. But you have to get the confidence. If it's not instant, immediate. You know, like, I'm good.

And we're lucky that we have, like, the home base. We have KFC Radio. That's what we use. And that gives us, like, the freedom to maybe try something else a little bit. And that doesn't work. We come back. Who's the example I always use that, like, if you just – if you wait around long enough, you'll just like there was somebody who like got a job a movie or an exec or something where it was just like he he's lasted 20 fucking years and i think at one point he was like the

butt of a joke and i never would have thought of him as like being but it was just like if you've lasted this long you probably have the right perspective you have the right people you know not to like jump on, whatever it is. And it's just like if you can just last long enough, somebody will – Try to remember who that is because that would be a very good – I remember being like this guy is the exact example where it was just like if you can – if you have the grittiness to like – the internet like beat him down and he didn't fold and his first thing fell apart but he had a second thing. And then eventually someone is going to be like, here's money.

Like we'll do this project with you because like we know you have the longevity. But you do got to wait fucking five, ten, fifteen years and a lot of people can't do that. It was – we were lucky with age too. We're like it was – we were young enough. We got very lucky. It was just like a fun, goofy thing. And then it got like to be our job.

And when we were old enough to have the confidence to be like, I'm not going to try some fucking ridiculous thing that is completely out of character and made myself look like an asshole. We're not going to dance on TikTok. You want me to like mouth? We did dance a few times.

We did dance. We did. And they were terrible. And then we were like, we're not doing this fucking bullshit anymore. But if there's a TikTok trend – Which is sucks for a social media manager. But like she learned like what we can and can't do.

So if there's a trend where it's like the sound from Always Sunny is going viral, like just mouth the words from Always Sunny. I can do that. But I'm not going to fucking do the renegade. You know what I mean? Like it's just not going to happen. So you can't ever like stray too far from what you're doing. But I think you've been doing a great job of transitioning into content as far as the blogging, the music.

You know music. Everybody trusts that your opinion on that is a sound one. And then you use that. And by the way, let me rant about Larry Lightfoot for an hour. She's gone, man. You would. By the way, speaking of Chicago, before we let you go, because I have Lightfoot for an hour. She's gone, man. You won. By the way, speaking of Chicago,

before we let you go, cause I have to piss like a racehorse. Uh, the Monday, the weekend you got jumped weekend, you got fucking, you know, his job,

the, uh, it's all, it's all a ruse to get a nose job. The Monday episode was Nick Tarani. And Nick was talking about the move chicago and and we were i was telling a story about how i was in chicago i was like everyone chicago is a fucking pussy i was like i was like i was out with the dinner with dante and was walking home to the hotel last summer and he's like dude i wouldn't walk home it's too dangerous i was like

he's such a bitch no one gets fucking joked they cut it they didn't tell me but they cut it no you gotta find this and then everything is just like political manifestos and you know launching attacks against laurie lightfoot he's a complex man he is he wears many hats don't judge a book we were in chicago and and i met him out um not at his bar not an uproar at um i forget the name of the bar next door but it's one of dan's and his buddy's bars and uh we met we were watching sell this playoff game i think and the game with the game it started at like six because it's central time and so it ended at like nine and it was about like a mile from where we were staying on michigan ave and i was like, all right, I'm just going to walk home.

He's like, you're going to do what? And I was like, I'm going to walk back to the hotel. He's like, dude, do not do that. I was like, what are you talking about? I'm in downtown Chicago. I'm walking to downtown Chicago. I'm going to walk. And he's like, dude, I mean, do what you want to do.

It's your life. I was like, you guys. And then we were talking to the Chicago guys about it the next day. And some of them were like, that's an overstatement. Others were like, yeah, that's about right. I was like, you guys. And then we were talking to the Chicago guys about it the next day. And some of them were like, that's an overstatement. Others were like, yeah, that's about right. I was like, what are you guys talking about? Like, everywhere is dangerous. But I'm in the tourist area.

What are you talking about that even here I can't walk home? And I actually, I think they're overstating it. I can't imagine it's that. I think. Oh, no, I haven't. I haven't. We've got to find this. Are you kidding me?

What was Nick saying? I don't remember. I don't remember. Dude, I gotta see the look on his face. That's so fucking funny. Because we recorded it before the weekend and then the Monday episode was going to be that and he called Dante a pussy thinking he was going to get jumped.

Dude, I need to see this. It was Chicago though, you're right. The streets of Providence. Most Feidelberg thing ever. That's great. Ever. I had forgotten about it. I think they told us on Monday or Tuesday,

like, by the way, in case it comes up, we clip this part. And I think it was crazy. I had seen the news at 2 AM, and we were about to export the podcast. And I was like, let's just be safe. Executive decision. Yeah, pull it out.

We'll take this out. You know what I said, folks. It can leave that shot by. Dude, let's just be safe. Executive decision. Yeah, pull it out. We'll take this out. You know what I said, folks. Stop it. Dude, I need to see this. All right, last thing. And then I'll let you go to the bathroom. Do you guys honestly not miss writing? Oh, very much.

Do you? I wrote a blog last week. Every time I write a blog, I'm like, fuck, I love this. I'm kind of the opposite, though. I very much miss it, but I have some sort of big picture writer's blog going on right now where I just can't get into the vibe that I used to get into. It's a grind for me, but I always... He hasn't skipped a beat.

A few blogs he's put out have been fucking awesome. The one about the HR the the hr was so the upstairs even just the email one like it was also just like well written like the the writing devices you were using and all that like i i don't think you lose it but i do but you're i watch your i watch like 90 of your minute mans i'm like dude i should just write it down i'm like this would be the best fucking blog if he wrote it. I know. I like fucking steal a bunch of, not your material, but a lot of your subjects.

Oh, that's funny. I steal from you too. No, but I grab your, like I'm in the middle of your Sauce Gardner one right now. Oh my God. It's just the saddest. No, but I legit steal a lot of your blogs from MinuteMan. Like I said, usually I go to the site and I'm like, oh, this will be good for it. And I click on it and it's just the saddest no but i i legit steal a lot of your blogs for one minute man you like i said usually i go to the site and i'm like oh this will be good for it and i click on it and it's dante so i mean you got the the right blog like you know uh radar or whatever i missed it i

still hold out hope that all this uh audio and video shit's gonna tank and let's not go that far but but i think you guys are gonna come back to the mind i swear to fucking god if like when you do a podcast you can have like five ads on it that are thousands of dollars each and you can make a lot of money if somebody said i'll give you whatever xyz thousands of dollars for a blog i would probably do it you know i definitely think it's my biggest strength. I think writing and then audio and then video, what I do most of the time now is probably my least,

my worst trait, but it just doesn't make sense. It is also, and I'm sure you deal with this, but I do want to write more and I think I told Nate I'll do two a month or something like that. But all I can blog, hey dude, guess what? I do want to write more and I think I told Nate I'll do like two a month or something like that and but like

all I can hey dude guess what it's still most 90% of the people here I'll still probably be a top 10 blogger for real dude

for fucking real but like because of our schedules and a lot of the podcasting schedules it's just like I can't write about anything timely anymore

so I have to write about something that happened to me I can only write about things that like because by I have to write about something that happened to me. I can only write about things that like, because by the time you sit down to write it, there's somebody else wrote it. Right.

Yeah. Yeah. It's tough, but you are one of the people keeping it afloat. So thanks for that, bro. Thanks fellas. Thank you. Don,

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