KFC Radio - Darius Rucker Full Interview | The Delta Flight That Made a U-Turn Due To Passenger With Explosive Diarrhea - Full Episode

Episode Date: September 6, 2023

Timecodes: 0:00 Start 06:37 Man who forced an emergency landing from diarrheaing on plane 27:07 Darius Rucker intro / Jackie steals feits' shirts 31:17 Feits' incredibly gross looking hair 42:00 Deodorant vs Antiperspirant 43:02 Sports Betting 52:22 Frosted Flake Shrooms 01:00:44 Video Voicemails 01:16:36 Jackie's Birthday Party 01:21:19 Darius Rucker Interview Preview +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Gametime: Download the Gametime app or go to https://gametime.co, enter your email, and redeem code KFC for $20 off your first purchase (terms apply). Pirate Water: Go to https://drinkpiratewater.com to find Pirate Water in a location near you or order on gopuffYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/kfcr

Hey KFC Radio listeners, you can find every episode of KFC Radio on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. No! I don't know. Never in a hundred million guesses would I have said. It's another edition of KFC Radio on the Barstool Sports Network. We've been making a lot of promises about, like, this will never happen to me. I can guarantee this.

That sort of stuff, you know? Yes, I thought of one the other day, too. Fuck. I fucking, like, literally, what was I watching? You've got to write those down. I just thought of something. You know, we are too old to remember things. I'm pretty good at writing stuff down.

I can be dead asleep, and I will write something down. Like, I will wake up and be like, write it down down now i know you don't want to but grab your phone and write it down because you're gonna forget it mine i'm pretty good at it it's less my notebook is like there yeah it has to be on your purse i'm like ah that's too far oh wait speaking of things i did think of uh i thought of this today um fuck, I want to get back to both of those things. That kind of reminds me of Mitch Hedberg's joke, which is so funny when he's about how his brain's going because he smokes so much weed. And he's like, I got to write down every joke. And if I can't find a pen, I gotta convince myself that joke's not funny.

Dude, he would have been unbelievable in the social media. Yeah. Like, all of his things are just tweets. He'd have, like, 100 million followers on Twitter. He did. I mean, I still follow, I think his niece ran Mitch Hedberg Updates or whatever it was called. I believe she got a life and stopped using social media, which sucks for me. But good for her.

But I thought of two things. Remember things rich people can do but poor people can't? Yeah, I had a good one the other day that – fuck. We might – I thought it up. What was it? Have brown skin Like when you see a guy with a tan Oh I get it It's not my

It's the society's view of it Not mine I mean I'm just stating the obvious. I think society looks at one one way and another the other way. Right, you're right. That's what these things are. They're not doing drugs, speaking two languages. It's just racism.

It's just prejudice. It's just... That's all it is. Speaking two languages is just what I said in a different way. I had a good one of those and I didn't write it down. Really? I fucking didn't write it down. That's funny.

Well, anyway. I thought of it because I saw my legs in the mirror, and I was like, man, that'd be a lot cooler if it was tan. I got a very bad sunburn this weekend. It's actually on the shins. Yeah, it's so bad. I'm cleaning up on the pickleball court. Pickleball's dope, by the way. Oh, you ran on pickleball?

It's unbelievable. Took you a little while, but now you're... It's my first time playing yeah it's unbelievable so much bro i can't even imagine getting on the pickleball court right now there's too much too much like you know it's not that i was worried about that it's not that bad the way i remember playing in high school i remember like diving oh yeah if i was here you played sprinting and likeinting and, like, maybe it was just now. I'm playing with, like, don't even know. I was, like, work, work, work, mopping the floor with my mom. Yeah. Like, I got a sunburn, so I was on the court so long. It was fucking next.

My sister who said a baby would come out next. That's great. I've been with them all this weekend. First time I've done, like done something like that in a while A dope for a ball Whole leg infected Oh! On concrete? No, it's on sand

That'll do it too though I was at the beach And this dude I was with There were little kids And they were digging a hole Making a castle The the whole nine. But it was deep and it filled up with water like a puddle. But it was like still like this deep.

And he did a cannonball into it. And like I watched him like – I mean it's like concrete basically. Like wet sand. It's like concrete. And he just smashed and went like, I shouldn't have done that. I shouldn't have done that. How old was the kid? He's like 35. It's like concrete. And he just smashed and went like, I shouldn't have done that. I shouldn't have done that. How old was the kid? He's like 35.

He's like an adult. Should have heard Adrano Cechic. Yeah, basically like that. Yeah, he, Adrano Cechic himself. I thought it was gonna be his back, just from like the boom, but it was more his leg from the sand just got like, ripped the front layer of skin just gone. I mean, Pabs, you're still young enough that you're allowed to be doing those things.

Yeah, I was going to get dirty no matter what. I couldn't hit a home run. I was the only guy without a home run. Oh, that hurts. I was like, I'm going to dive out for any ball that comes my way. That hurts. I remember doing the David Ortiz home run derby, and we had to hit it over a pretty high fence.

Do you remember that? I was a dip. I've seen the video. I remember being like, I don't think – because it wasn't even like hit far, but it was like the height too. I was like, no, they can do it. That was a high fence. I remember like –

It was like a triple decker. Yeah, yeah. And I remember it was funny. We did like a warm-up round, and this happened to me twice in my life, both baseball. I played Little League baseball. Then I stopped. We moved a couple times, and I stopped for a couple years.

And then when I finally landed in Pelham, I was like, let me try to play again. But by that point, it had increased from Little League to now we're getting to high school baseball. And so I go to try out, and we're getting to like high school baseball. And, uh, so I, I go to try out and he were like in the batting cage and he's like, all right, first two pitches lay down a couple of bunts and then, and then swing away. And I'm like,

oh shit, I don't think I've ever bunted. And by like, just, I was like, I'm not going to do this. And by the grace of God, I just laid down two bunts.

Like, but like on an absolute prayer i was just i mean i think my eyes were closed and they were like perfect like i you know and then uh and he was like good good good and then anytime he ever tried to have you in a game but same thing with the with the home run derby um we were just testing out where should it be how far should it go and they were like what about over this and I was like I don't know we'll see and like I think I like took

maybe two pitches in the second one I knocked out and I was like oh okay I was surprising but we can do this no that was a complete fluke there was no chance anyway all the way back to the beginning here I was gonna say I was going to say

I was initially going to make a guarantee On something that I It'll never be me But I realized I can't do that So now I'm going to guarantee If it ever is me If I ever Force an emergency landing on a plane

From diarrhea-ing All over landing on a plane from diarrhea-ing all over all over a plane I will jump out of that plane I was gonna say it'll never be me because I just don't understand the idea of how it was all over the plane but hey, I don't know, you can't control that

I can't in good conscience say this will never be me maybe one day I will, diarrhea all over the place because if it happens, it happens you can't control that i can't i can't in good conscience say this will never be me maybe one day i will diarrhea all over the place because if it happens it happens you can't stop that but if it is me then we have a whole other problem because i'm opening that door i've it becomes almost like a hijacked plane situation i'm like open the door i'm gonna jump out i diarrhea all over the place what was his manifesto scribbled on toilet paper like i can't live like this i mean you can't you know but you can't like you can't be the guy who had a plane from georgia atlanta georgia to barcelona spain turn around two hours into the flight because you you diarrhea everywhere atlanta georgia to biden you know that

flew yeah it was it was a nonstop flight from Atlanta to Barcelona. And then they looked at the flight path. It's just like. And the pilot's like, yeah, we got a biohazard situation. It's all over the cabin. What? It is. It's so funny when these guys try.

You have to check in the calendar. Like, it's not April 1st. There's no way this flight attendant is telling me there's diarrhea. I love when they make it so professional, though. Like, in real life, that guy would go, like, somebody shit all over the plane. You got to come back. But he's like, I'm on the – I got my headset on. It's a biohazard situation.

It's like, just'm on the – I got my headset on. It's a biohazard situation. It's like, just say someone poof. And, you know, the guy at the tower is like, we got a biohazard situation. What happened? Somebody shit all over. Now, I wonder – I was wondering if you shit yourself on a plane, like, you know, a diarrhea. Like, it is a – it's not just like there's something in your pants it's like getting out of your clothes is it just that we're in a closed air circuit and that becomes like the biohazard or is this guy like run to the bathroom and he shit all

over the plane to be like it's all over the the direct quote was it's all over the – the direct quote was it's all over the cabin. But just that – I mean, you see shit everywhere. Everywhere, right? Have you ever seen – I think it's Dumb and Dumber 2 when Bob Saget's like, there's shit everywhere. There's shit on the walls. There's shit on the ceilings. If you've ever seen it, like it is the exact perfect like scene for this scenario. I'm picturing it like it was you know like a crazy

inmate like yeah there's just shit everywhere i mean if that's happening that's that's more of a let's roll situation than 9-11 no i'm less likely to get involved oh yeah yeah because you don't that's that's i'm less likely to get involved in a pile of shit than I'm a terrorist attack. You're correct. But how about this? If there were two scenarios and I, as a spectator, was picking which one I want to let's roll, I want other guys to do the let's roll in. Yes. I would be like, stop the shit.

Yeah. Maybe these terrorists, they just want some money money we don't know what they want yet you know it was every chance that they're just gonna land and like you know get arrested because it didn't you know obviously that one didn't work out too well that day but there's a better chance of that than crash into a building these can't melt still melt steel beams i've been a lot better if i got it out smooth they're gonna crash into a building these things can't melt steel beams. Yeah, come on. I'd be a lot better if I got it out smooth. Want to try it again? They're not going to crash into a building. These things can't

melt steel beams. If there's a guy shitting all over the cabin, it's going to get on you or it's going to get in your nose. That will affect me directly immediately.

Yeah. I mean, this is crazy. It's crazy. We've got a new mic. We've got new cords. I can't confirm the cords are new. I just thought that he went back there today. I mean, I'm going to go nuts.

Like, we need to rip everything out and put all new things in. I can't do this. It's been 10 episodes. I don't even – the audience probably doesn't even know it because it keeps getting edited out. But if I move my microphone at all, it cuts out and the producer goes – I have to take the thing and put it together and then it just resumes. But if I move it in any way, no, no audio.

Fuck this place. I'm like, I can't. I can't. I keep my hands in my hands. Yeah, for real. But the aftermath of being the guy who turned around an Airbus look like this woman tweeted at delta and was like hi my son's like supposed to be coming over uh from spain or like or like she was in wherever it was she's like but like the plane uh is like you know delayed two hours like can you give me

any insight on what's going on and someone like just seeing that it was just a she was like egg on twitter just like looking to get an update. And people were just like, yeah, someone – your son is like shitting all over the plane probably. That – you cannot be that guy. Like I was thinking about – I'm trying to think how I feel. I want to give my honest opinion on how I feel. I was thinking the other day how little I care about what other people think. But, like, I've never shit all over a plane before.

Yeah. You know, like, the things that people give me shit about, I'm like, I don't care anymore. I, to an incredibly lesser degree, had a situation remotely comparable the other day where i was at a bar that just had a single bathroom okay and i went in and i went to slide it was a sliding door and i went to slide it i waited for a while and i was like boy this is taking a while and i was like oh wait i forgot to check if it's like maybe it's just closed the door's never closed at this bar and i went to pull it and it was closed so i was like oh okay like it's got like one of those it, and it was closed. So I was like, oh, okay. Like, it's got, like, one of those hinge locks. And I was like, oh, all right. And then I stood there for what was, again, an amount of time that would have made me go, wait, did I try and open the door?

Yeah. And then pull it again. Like, I'd be like, I'm talking close to 10 minutes, and I stand in there. And I'm like, Jesus Christ, whoever's in there is doing damage. Yeah. And then I open the door, and then I and then i finally the door opens this just little woman comes out no and and then i walked into the bathroom and it smelled so fresh and i was like and it's like it's like it's like in the like a dive bar good pressure yeah okay yeah like it's

in this little dive bar where like there's aren't even like the all the cleaning supplies are in there and like it's not even there's not even a curtain like, all the cleaning supplies are in there. And, like, it's not even, there's not even a curtain. There might be a curtain. They sit in front of it. But that's half open all the time. Right. And I was like, this woman fully cleaned the bathroom. Like, yeah.

Like. Ain't nobody going to know what I did in here. And in my head, I was like, she didn't have to do all that. Like, who cares if you shit a little bit? I don't, I'm fucking, like, clearly she shit. And then, like, I don't know what she did. But, like, I mean, it was, it smelled amazing. It smelled like the Garden of Eden in there. Like, clearly she shit. And then like, I don't know what she did, but like, I mean, it was, it's all amazing. It's only the garden of Eden in there. This is beautiful.

I could, I could eat a meal in here. And I was like, I was like, why go through all that trouble? Like, it just stinks like shit a little bit. Who fucking cares?

And so like, I guess in that sense, because, but like, that's what I'm talking about. That one woman was like, I don't want to risk. I don't, that woman was like, I'm not going to risk one person seeing me come out of there and go, whoa, that woman pooped. And this is a plane full of people.

And that woman didn't want someone going, man, that person pooped in the toilet. Where are you supposed to go? She did everything right. The body had to get rid of the excrement. She did it in the toilet yeah where you're supposed to go she did everything right the body had to get rid of the excrement she did it into the toilet and unfortunately there's a little bit of a smell this guy this guy bro planes can like lose engines and you can still make your destination they can fly through hurricanes you can lose visibility you can fly through a gaggle of geese and they're always like ah this thing's fine this guy shit so much he took down a 747 that is incomprehensible how much shit that there there needs to be that is i like i mean diarrhea is a different animal man there's it is diarrhea and you're just like where is this coming yeah yeah, yeah. I have to be empty by now, right?

It's coming out of my fingertips. You got your abs sore. You're like, what the fuck, man? I don't have a stomach ache. My ab muscles are sore. When your biggest workout in a long time is shitting, that's when it's bad. You're sweating like you've been in the gym.

Your abs hurt. Like, what is happening to me? How many sit-ups do you think you could do right now? Do you do sit-ups when you work out? No, I'm not a gay teenager. Yeah, like. That is so true. That is so, like, that's something you honestly, like, chicks do.

And when I was, like, younger, I'd be like, I need to be cut up. But he did a six pack. But I feel like you specifically, like, that idea of, like, bending in half, like, I don't think your body could do it. Not for lack of strength, just, like, the bones and stuff. With the hip, too? Yeah. No way, right? I can do a sit-up.

That feels like one of those things, like, the ship sailed so long ago on push-ups. I remember being able – when I was young and athletic playing, I could do like 50 push-ups in gym instead of doing the pull-ups. You could do push-ups and I would just bang that out and I would always get enough. And then the times in life when you are like, oh, I can still do something and you try it and you absolutely cannot. I've never tried that with sit-ups, and I bet it's that way. I bet where you think you can be like, and it's not like that at all. I'd probably be like,

like, full flexing, just trying to get one sit-up done. Yeah, that, you know, diarrhea is a... Diarrhea is a young man's game, dude. I can't be getting... Can't be getting

Tyra as an adult. And the sad thing is that's how it... But you do. It gets worse and worse. It's a young man's game but it's an old man's disease. That shit is literally... I say all this

but I'm also like – like if something embarrassing happened in front of a plane full of strangers, I don't know. I've never seen these people again. I don't care. I was super young. I think I actually was going to Spain too. I was probably like a freshman in high school. I was going to Spain with my two aunts and my grandfather, and I fell asleep on the plane. I was a freshman in high school, was going to spain with my aunt and my two aunts my grandfather and i fell asleep on the plane i was a oh yeah i was a freshman high school so i was traveling like athletic shorts some shit like that and i just fell asleep on the plane like

on a candy bar and my aunt had to take off her sweater so i could tie it on my waist because just like a shit all over myself like it was it was because you're just a piece of shit who like you were eating candy i was eating candy candy fall asleep it started early if anybody thinks that feidelberg is because he's like later in life no no he was 18 i've been playing this song for a while you guys you guys know the notes yeah i mean that like there is there's just something about like if there was a scene of like yelling like we see on viral videos if there was a scene of like yelling like we see on viral videos if there was a scene of like i was drunk ah whatever i don't care about any of that i think a crew of 250 people see you shit all over the place i don't know man it's just because you know what those other things

happen i think about this when people go viral on like Twitter or on some of those videos. And it's like, that person's life is ruined. And it's like, how? No one even – like tell me what that person looked like right now. You wouldn't be able to tell me. It's not like you're going to walk in to apply for a job. They're going to go, you're that guy from the plane. Someone shits all over.

People could describe you down to the fucking freckles on your face they're gonna remember the face of the man who shit all over an airplane cabin that one sticks with you maybe that's what it is i don't know but there's just something about i could i couldn't be known to even 200 people in this world 200 out of 8 billion but there's 200 people who know me as the guy who not only diarrhea all over the place but like ruined vacations because of it. Imagine that. You're like, we're going to Barcelona, baby. I mean, it got delayed.

It went back. Then it landed eight hours later. All because you shit all over the place. Particularly with public travel, you're always so – I guess you're one of two people. You're either I don't give a fuck about anybody else but me yeah or like i'm very yes i'm like i i want to sit in my little spot i don't want to make sure i don't i don't want to get up to go to the bathroom because i want to disturb you all that shit i had that happen to me on the train the other day where i was like i was coming home and so i had bought my ticket The wrong way

I had bought it New York to Providence And Providence to New York Brother we are You and me Are not good at travel If we were ever on the amazing race

Like we would just lose right away Because we just like Went the wrong direction Yeah And I get to the train station I was like Fucking idiot And I

So I went to I was trying to change out my app Wouldn't work So I went to the front desk By I was like, oh, fucking idiot. And I – so I went to – I was trying to change on my app. It wouldn't work. So I went to the front desk. By the way, that should just be like loosey-goosey. Like if you're on Metro North, if you go from your spot to Grand Central, it doesn't matter. It's just whatever, whatever. Right, right, right. Fuck that.

But, dude, trains – I never put it together until recently. Because I do – I really like to train. Yeah, me too. But trains are so expensive. Yeah, they are. Bro, I spend i spend a thousand dollars to go home i go home all the time i was like yeah i was like wait i'm spending like twenty thousand dollars a year to go home like like it real like it's like 500 bucks each way it's like 360 something like that and i guess it's just i also said i don't buy it until a half hour before. Well, that's part of it too. But I guess they know that like you're not going through a security problem.

Like it's all – 300 maybe. For the distances that trains go, like you're not going to take a train to California. Obviously, you've got to fly. But it's like should I fly to Boston and take the train? It's like it's significantly easier to take a train. And I think they know that, so they're like... Particularly here.

New York to Boston, New York to Providence. If anyone who flies, it's crazy. Or drives, man. That drive up the Merritt, you just go 30 miles an hour the whole time. You're not in stop traffic, but there's too many cars on the road traffic, and it's just two lanes,

and you drive 25 miles an hour for seven hours straight the worst but that shit is expensive man but it's a night it's a it's an enjoyable experience unless so the so i i go i want to change it he's like the train's sold out and i was like i like i had to get home i have a job and he's like there's a first class ticket left and i was like oh okay cool i'll take that he goes ticket left. And I was like, oh, okay, cool, I'll take that. And he goes, what are you, rich? I was like, no, but I have to keep my job, and you just told me it's the only ticket left, so I need to take that ticket.

You should have said, yeah, then what? I'm an asshole. And then he goes, I bet it won't hurt for long. And I was like, all right, dude, what? Just fucking, do you want to? You told me it was my only option to get home. I'm taking it. What the fuck do you think is happening?

So anyway, I get on the train. And what did that run you? That was like $4.60. It's like $100 more. Jesus. And $4.20, something like that, whatever. And the – on first class, they serve dinner. Oh, they serve a meal.

And I'm sitting on the train and I was like – I had to piss so bad and I was sitting next to this girl. And she was like doing some kind of doodling artwork and i was like i don't want to disturb her and i'm like i bet i can make it back to new york for ip and then there's like i just couldn't make it and by the time i asked her to get up she never even served her dinner so it ended up being like way worse she had to like pass the tray to someone else to put the tray up and you at that point you're like i'm gonna piss my pants i was like i have to i have to yeah and i've i like that that wasn't even this trip that was like two trips ago and i still think about it every day so if i'd shit everywhere imagine like so in in this situation i'm imagining that guy you're that

guy and then you get up but but you shit as you get up. And it's like through your shorts, onto her, onto the floor. That's why you don't travel in shorts. In case you shit. You need something to trap it in there. Imagine you felt bad about that. Imagine if you had shit on her. I just can't. I i mean that would be i would

stick my head out the window and i would just what's that movie uh just just you know i'm talking about i would just chop my own fucking head off oh um hereditary hereditary yeah uh so i mean that mercifully the main thing i would be be scared of this day and age is nobody knows who that was. It's all kept. They just say a passenger. The New York Post article was like, the passenger's name was not revealed. I would sincerely hope so. I would sincerely hope we protect that guy.

If that is just like the New York Post has obtained his name and here's his facebook profile like i that would be that would be worse than like blowing the whistle on like anything else like victims of of crimes like no no before like i would out them before i out the guy who shit all over the camera i hope you got put on a watch list this is like that that's fair that is actually fair he gets pulled into interrogation room every time he's like god damn dude i had fucking chicken malasala one time you you probably should get on some sort of list that's like uh you need to fly three straight times without incident to prove to me that this was a fluke or something like that yeah because if you're like a diarrhea guy, that's as dangerous as a fucking...

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I mean, that is so insane. It wasn't even a passing comment. We talked about it for like five minutes. Yeah, he kept bringing it back up. And I was like, because sometimes people will say something like that. And I'm like, oh, like your team told you who I am. Or you just watched the video before you walked in here to make me feel good. And he like knew and enjoyed and loves it.

And like that, that, that dates back to like when I was like eight years old watching fucking Hootie and the Blowfish dominate MTV. Like for a kid, like I didn't do anything but watch MTV at that age. That's all I did. The countdown, the shows, all that shit. And I mean, Hootie was on another level of like they were just every single music video. They had like four number one singles out at the same time. It was just like they were just every single music video they had like four number one singles out at the same time it was just like they are those dudes and then but you know what's funny back then i probably i wouldn't have appreciated like i everybody knew their music but it was

almost like kind of like i was like that's for like parents almost like rap music and shit like he said on the interview you hear him talk about how grunge was dominating it's like in the in the time i don't think i really appreciated it after the fact now that he's you know i mean they the accolades and the numbers that he talks about in the interview are absolutely nuts now he goes on to be you know wagon wheel darius rucker i that was just fucking insane to me can't i there's very few people I would want to like me more than that kind of guy. And you'll see during the interview, like, whatever your opinion of Darius Rucker is, afterwards you'll like him that much more. What's wrong?

Do you only shop here? Stop. I did not wear the shirt around here. Did you want it? No, I didn't want it but like you come in wearing my shirts all the time like that you got it my shirt you gotta grab it you gotta show this shirt you gotta i got it i got it i got it is that is that my stuff i was are you just like a pack rat? Dude, this was in here for like three months.

Yeah, for people who don't see off camera, it looks very clean on camera. Yeah. Off camera, it's a disaster of just clothes that Kevin and I have taken off to put on different shirts for different advertisements. And I guess walked home in them. I don't know how we end up with so many clothes here. Yeah. And I've seen Jackie multiple times. There's two.

And this is one of them and I forget why. There was a good reason for me to, like, I had spilled something. Diarrhea all over the place. Didn't you? Anyways. Sorry. Jackie at all times is either wearing somebody's clothes here or a meat shirt.

Or a meat shirt. The meat aesthetic is the real one. I didn't even realize what the last one was. What was mommy's little meatball? What's that? I just needed to change shirts again for some reason. And I was out with my friends. And then.

Oh, that was like an emergency? Like, I need a new shirt. Let me buy this this yeah like from a vendor or whatever well i know all i had was a sweatshirt on and like nothing under so then and i was hot so then and we were going on a walk so then they were i was like okay we need to find a t-shirt i was like but i don't want something expensive and then they were like well you have to get mommy's little meatball please don't make me get mommy's little meatball and they said i don't make the rules so i had to get the mommy's i love that when when when your friends just make you

do something that's like you totally didn't have to buy it but you had to buy mommy's little yeah you've got a lot of a lot of meat shirts that's your brand um so we got Darius Rucker on the show. And we'll do voicemails and all that. What else we got? I have a take. It's not a take. I'm tired. Are you sweaty? What's going on?

No. He's just wet. It's early in the morning. Got it. Oh, you know what I did? I put in like a hair oil today for the first time ever. Bro, you don't wash your hair. You don't need any more oil.

Yeah, it's a good point. Yeah. That's a good point. I thought it was just – like I thought you showered. Actually, it would be dry by now because we've been here for like two hours. You have so much – Do you look wet still? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

All right. That could be interesting. Now that I – yo, now that I know it's oil, it's disgusting. I thought it was just – I thought it was just water. Even if it was just sweat. Glass houses. But now that I know your head is just caked in oil, why did you do that? I'm tired of doing my hair.

And I go, okay, fine. We'll do it. I love when this happens. It's like, oh, boy. Something's going on in Heidelbergville that I didn't know. I was like, how? I'm tired of doing my hair. I don't want to do it was like it was like how i'm tired of doing my hair i don't want to do it anymore yeah i was like i want to just think about shaving my head

every day like it's just it's the blow drying stuff yeah i apologize erica i will get back to it um but the uh and i was like what are other options and and they were like there was one that was just like use a hair oil and i was like okay but i didn't feel like getting hair oil so oh god so this is gonna be like baby oil no it's not it's probably worse it's beard oil i don't know never in a hundred million guesses what I have said. To be fair, I did Google, can you use beard oil in your hair? It said yes. Did you also Google, why the fuck would I want to do this? That is a – that's bad, bro.

Does it look bad? Well, again, now that I know it's oil, yeah. Yeah? I wouldn't say it looks good. It looks like when I first – Look, we tried something new, guys. All right? Listen.

That's what we do here. We try and we get ridiculed. We got to go back to the drawing board. We'll figure it out. But why did you think that – So what did you read somewhere? Like if you don't want to do your hair, just put oil in it? It's like basically like leave-in conditioner, it said, and you kind of just go out.

Because it did. Like I said, it looked like you just got out of the shower, and your hair was a little bit curly and wet. How did – Dude, I put a drop on my hand and then put – Yeah, no, it looks pretty oily. It doesn't look like it. But I'll tell you why. Because you have a month's worth of natural oil built up because you don't wash your hair.

If I – I have – Every day when i shampoo my hair i can tell there's there's nothing in there it's dry yeah because i don't like having any oil i know it's good for your hair but i think that's gross so i'm like i wash it every day because i don't like it to be oily your hair probably feels you know greasy yeah yeah i i worked out last night and this morning and and didn't wash. And then put extra oil in. Oh, dude.

That's disgusting. Yo, again. We got something, man. No, no, no. We're trying new things. And we're going to fix it. We're going to fix it. Trying new things is like, yo, I wore these red sneakers.

And people are like, no, no, no. That's too loud. Or like, oh, I tried on this crazy jacket. I've been seeing people talk about hair oil. I want to see what it's all about. Bro. Now we got to. No, no, no, no.

The hair oil is not necessarily even the problem. The problem is like I tried something is I don't wash my hair ever. I sweat in it and don't clean it. And then I add oil to it. You got gotta give full context yeah like if someone who washes their hair every day tried hair oil i'd be like you tried something it didn't work what you are trying is being disgusting all right yeah that's fair context which is i think that we're very similar in certain ways and it's funny because i recently

have also hit a point where i'm like i'm done with my hair i'm done doing it and i've started balding recently so i'm like there's, I don't know what is going on, but I will be bald by December. I don't know how to stop it. What do you mean? Like, like, like when you're washing your hair,

like, like tufts are coming out. Yes. And then like, I can see, you can't see it now, but I have bald spots. So it's like,

like actual bald spots. There's nothing, not like actual bald spots, but like for me, like bald spots. Yeah. And like my, my,

my, that's stress. You're too stressed is bigger i think i don't know what's going on i think it's also just because i need a haircut but i don't have time i haven't had like a full day where i can get a haircut because it's like a four-hour thing so then it's just go get a haircut i know i know but but like i mean i'm already balding so i guess i don't need to cut my hair right now it's falling out balding jerry but anyway so then i've just been instead of like doing my hair right now. It's falling out. She's balding, Jerry.

But anyway, so then I've just been, instead of like doing my hair, because it just like pulls out so much, I've just been air drying and just like letting it do its thing. And it doesn't look good, but like. It is what it is. You know, it is what it is. I don't know. I mean, you know, it's funny because if it's like, if you're like walking off the beach and your hair looks like that,

it's like, oh, it's like beach hair. But if you like walk in here, it's like you look weird you know what i mean it's like but it's all relative that's what's going yeah like you if you were on the beach right now you'd be right fine right yeah well i mean we're in a place of work we're in a place of employment the uh come touch it i'll i'll i'll tell i'll tell you what. When you do that, is your hair – Oh, yeah. It's super greasy.

It's crazy greasy, dude. Like, of course it's – And you really – you just put like a drop. I think it said put two to three. I might have put three to four. But like – because it didn't feel like a lot in my hand. I was like, there's no way that's enough. And now it's too much.

Dude, that's so funny. For the sake of the show, I have to. I'm going to give a... I didn't like that at all. Do you have hand sanitizer or something? I need something to cut through the oil That was gross That was gross Ladies

Alright Don't rub your fingers Alright Tomorrow Wash your hair We don't use beard oil in the hair How about We wash our hair

I'll probably wash my hair this time I would I would think Your monthly shampooing It should be this time when it's caked with oil. It doesn't feel all that different.

I mean, it's also unbrushed. Well, this was the point of the whole process. You didn't want to brush it. You didn't want to brush it. Well, why don't you just do that?

Go back to doing your hair. I don't... There's a brush around here, I think. It's just a lot. Yeah, yeah. Let's brush your hair. I don't want to's a brush around here, I think. It's just a lot. Yeah, yeah. Let's brush your hair. I don't want to.

Well, you know, I didn't want to rub my fingers. Oh, this is my brush. Okay. Why's your brush here? I'm sure it fell out of a bag at some point. It already looks better. Yeah, it does. Worth.

I can't tell. This is a good discussion. I feel like I can't tell whether it's like a body dysmorphia thing, like hair dysmorphia. Like when I see other people with their hair like shaggy and undone, you do it a lot. You just get out of the shower and leave it or whatever. I'm like, oh, it looks fine. I feel like when I don't do my hair, I look like look like ridiculous i get i get i get like these i'll come in next uh next episode i won't i won't i won't do anything to my hair i get like i have these

it gets wavy and curly and kind of like parts in the middle and i think i look completely ridiculous but it's also probably like the same way i don't know it's like you would look at it like i don't know your hair is like a little curly today or something like that yeah i can't tell but i then when i do my hair that's what it's the i'm trying to get i like i like showered and like just sat on my apartment recently and then i went to the bathroom and i saw myself i was like oh i kind of like the curls and so i've been trying to get to like some curls and it was like how you get curls don't blow dry your hair. Yeah.

All that shit. Yeah. So I was like, okay. And then one of the things was try some hair oil. Well, I was like, well, I'm not going to spend $7.99 when I got the wood beard oil right here. I think it's also like the TikTok kids, the TikTok, that generation of like young boys will just have like their floppy curly curly hair in front of their head.

See, I kind of liked it more poofy, and it's not poofy is what I'm guessing. No. Yeah, it's more like down. When I walked out, it was like that, but I figured it would dry. Yeah. And I guess it would factor in the canola oil. I didn't realize I put Crisco in my hair. I think that looking like that, to me, I'm like, oh my god, you look ridiculous.

But if, like, an 18-year-old had that look, it'd be like, oh, he looks cool. Oh, like an 18-year-old? I'm saying the TikTok look of, like, your hair is kind of, like, forward and just, like, curly in the front. Yeah, that's not, but when I saw it in the mirror, I thought it was, like, up. No, you weren't up, but you weren't down. You were there and curly. Yeah.

It was just there and curly. That's what I'm trying to do. Well, you did it, but it also looks like glitter. Wait, I did it right now? His hair was like, it wasn't poofy, but it wasn't like down over his forehead. It was just like curly. I'll tell you what, in my head it sounds dope. If it wasn't glistening with oil, it maybe would be something. But it looks like – I mean, again, I thought that eventually it would dry throughout the day because it was wet and it was just oil.

Does oil not dry? Yeah, oil is not going to dry. Oil is oil. Oil and water kind of, you know. Yeah. Pretty famously. Yeah. Pretty famously. Some would say they're opposite. Yeah.

Pretty famously. But that would make me think it keeps water away, which is a dry thing. Well, it does, but it's its own sort of wetness. You know what I mean? Like, if you put, like, powder in that's, like, dry and it keeps water away, but it's, like, already dry. You're putting something wet in there that also keeps water. So, like, in the garage, like, the oil spot, that's on my head right now. Yeah, pretty much.

That makes sense. You've got WD-40 in there. It's regrettable, but it makes sense. Right now, do you not see those hairs? I see this hair right here. So you have some that are dripping down. But right here on your head looks wet. Looks like dark hair.

Like dark wet. Tomorrow we change. It's about growth, folks. It's about growth. It's about trying and failing. You know, it's like the Batman thing. Why do we fall? To get up again. Why do we put Crisco

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like underarms like pit smell mixed with like cool breeze that's disgusting yeah you know how like if you spray febreze right now it just smells like your college dorm because like everyone got febreze when they went to college and so like oh now it just smells like shit and fresh linen that's like what febreze is to me it's like a shitty college dorm and fresh linens that's what deodorant is to me it's just like rolling gooey gooey cologne on your armpits that sounds good gross um well i was gonna say before jackie uh maybe reveal myself to everybody and reveal myself to me, really. I haven't seen what I look like. Whatever, dude.

I'm going to say something that I'm going to sprint back at some point in the near future, I'm sure. Nothing in the world has ever jumped the shark like SportsGambling. Oh, bro. It is. I don't think you'll be walking that one back at all well i will once we get a sports gambling advertiser oh sure like

this is the greatest thing ever sign up using code kfc but but until then while i am free the the the second greatest part of dave vine barstool back was that I had to keep my job. The first greatest part is that I can fucking finally say sports gambling is so lame now. No, you know what it is? It is. Sports gambling is fine. It's sports gambling content and being on the internet sports gambling. No, it's not.

It's everything. And I bet if you talk to everyone here obviously uh there it matters to their pocket so they won't be honest with you but if you talk to them off camera people who gambled like their whole lives before it would be like yeah it fucking sucks now like it's like anything else like the legal version of it stinks right dude i remember it recently is 10 years ago maybe even less than that like my buddies who like gambled i was like this is 10 years ago maybe even less than that like my buddies who like gambled i was like this is such a cool club i want to be in like fuck man i used to feel like i was on the outside looking like a bookie you got cash and i've talked to my

buddies now who's who's still gambling stuff like that and they're like we'll be at a bar and they'll be like this fucking sucks because some dude down at the end of the bar is just like screaming about a half timeline like it ruined the vibe of sports bar is just screaming about a halftime line. It ruined the vibe of sports bars. Sports bars aren't fun anymore because you have a fucking 20-year-old with 15 bucks on the game screaming his head off about it. And by the way, I do unit shame. If you have a drink on the game, shut the fuck up. There's a certain level where it's like, this does not matter to no matter what your job is this bet does not matter lou lou you should always be

like there's there's sports betting and there's sports gambling i fucking gamble right yeah yeah like if you're not if you're not like worried about being able to pay your bills then shut the fuck up the um but the like my buddies never talked about at the bar and because like some kid was going nuts and they were plus my boss like i bet he's a fucking stoolie and he was and um the uh they it was very loud and very like just screaming about some game and just like everyone was like dude what shot the fuck up like this we're just trying to have a drink here and um they were uh i forget what i was saying that part oh oh but then we went on to talk about how like maybe hopefully the rise of of this will then give rise to pubs because i love a pub yeah i almost no tv like sports bars aren, I almost want... Where there's no TV. You can have a sport...

Like, sports bars aren't fun anymore. They're like, everyone's just screaming. People come like, Who you on? Who you on? I'm fucking not on anybody. I'm here to get drunk. Yeah, I still wish... It's hard to have sports on

and ban gambling from your bar. Yeah. I still like a bar, like a pub, a dive bar, that has a game on. When you're in a bar like a pub a dive bar that has a game on there there when when you're in a bar and a bunch of people like from the city you're in are like living and dying by a game it's so different than a gambling a hundred you know like if you got a bunch of old timers like drinking whiskey fucking mad at the red sox that's fine with me yeah when you got a bunch of guys who are mad at the red sox you know didn fine with me. When you got a bunch of guys who are mad that the Red Sox, you know, didn't

score the first five or some shit, I hate that. I mean, we've said it for a long time where it is like fantasy. Where people are like, I don't care about your fantasy team, whatever. Same thing about your best. When it's like, oh, dude, I'm on fucking first catch. I don't care. I'm kind of watching

the game, kind of talking to my friends. And there are scenarios where like when I knew and it is the same people who would make fun of fantasy absolutely they say you know like like Lou said about gambling fantasy is fantasy it's not real

gambling is real the way you act and the vibe that you put out there is the same thing as the fantasy guy being like I need another reception before the half nobody cares but I do like and the vibe that you put out there is the same thing as the fantasy guy being like, I need another reception before the half. Nobody cares. But I do like people being agonizing over sports, but in the completely ridiculous way where nothing actually is on the line other than just your happiness.

I was watching the change-up the other day with Bateman and Ryan Reynolds, and they were in a bar going nuts about a game. And I was like, man, I haven't been in a bar like that. And obviously it's because I don't live in Boston anymore. But you think that's also like you couldn't if you wanted to? You think both bars? I think largely it's part of being in New York City. I'm sure if I went to fucking – there's college football bars.

At that bar, I'm sure if I went to fucking, uh, you know, there's college football bars, like, you know, at that, that bar. Yeah. I'm sure there, but like, and I, I'm,

I'm sure 99% of it is the fact that I don't live in my team's hometown anymore. Yeah. But like, I was like, that's so cool. But the, the, I forget how I was going to say it.

I don't know. But the idea, the idea, it's just like between social media, the bar – basically the bar really rubbed me the wrong way. And then being on Twitter this weekend is unbearable where it's – it's also – I forgot. I don't think Musk factored in football season to giving money to engagement where it's just going to be like,

this team sucks. I'm going to dunk on this guy. Engagement's going to go crazy. Twitter's going to go out of business, not because of the Jews, but because of football tweets. Because of football tweets. Musk's going to

owe so much money to them By the way if you didn't know Elon Musk is blaming the ADL For why they don't have any advertisers So that was the Jews joke Good little disclaimer to put out there That wasn't just John's thoughts But the

The The thing Everyone who keeps track of their bets – and I – you know, like, you'll be able to say this about me, right? It's just because it's not my interest is why I think this way. Like, you can do it with my interest. You can be like, I don't give a fuck about whatever the fuck I tweet about, which is nonsense. I don't even know what I tweet about. But, like, like –

Yeah, you don't have interests. I'm sure – Bad movies. Yeah, movies. Like, I don't give a fuck about what John, like, like I get that. But like when I'm seeing like,

here's my card for today or here's what I'm on. I, I'm like, that's like, go. If I went out and I just, the next day tweeted, here's,

here are my drinks. Be like, you'd be like, okay. Nobody fucking cares. Is there like, you have a story that goes with that? Like,

why are you telling me that? But what's so weird is that there are – And I know my view is very skewed because I work with all these people. I'm sure people don't follow as many people as I follow, so it's just like the main timeline. What I've never understood is the equivalent would be like people being like, I'm going to get the same drinks you get because I don't know why. It's like, oh, I don't even you know i don't even like fucking uh rum and coke or whatever but he got it so i'm gonna get it like if like people just ask what your picks are and then you tell them they're like well now i have to bet them

yeah because if they win i didn't bet them it's like what what you're not even making your own picks it and then and you scream about winning or losing it's just it there is a good there obviously are a lot of people particularly here here, who do it very well. But then I see content from – I don't block anybody on Twitter. I block basically every sportsbook in the world. Again, I will take all this back once you guys advertise with us. But until that time, we will delete this episode. I promise you that.

But I think there's a reason why, like you said, the people who do there's there are few and far between yeah because it's like you make it funny you make it engaging you or you do like when dave puts a big enough bet out that becomes interesting you know whatever when it's just you know like my i said i said so on my uh like betting site.com video so like you've got to follow along with it i don't fucking care nobody cares i i the fact that people don't see the correlation between fantasy and gambling is like and i know i know people understand the fantasy one because everybody kind of universally agrees that became a thing we don't care about your fantasy team well i don't care about your betsy unless unless it's don't care about your fantasy team. Unless you're putting it in your pocket.

That's obviously very understandable. But the – yeah. I don't know. Again, we're going to delete this episode. So if you like parts of it, record it because we're going to delete this. But I mean it. I just like money more. The same reason everyone –

I think our non non-competes probably down to about five months now so in about five months exactly almost exactly maybe like you know five months in a week none of this happened no don't worry no sales won't sell it uh should we do some voicemails yes by the way this is just a quick aside the when i went home this weekend i uh so actually this is a fun little thing. The bodega I go to is always getting me – like when I check out, they always whisper to me. You want some mushrooms? What?

Yeah. Every time? Oh, yeah. Multiple bodegas. That's a good thing If they think you're If they think you're cool They got

You got oil in your hair? They got If they think you're not a cop They're gonna offer you mushrooms Really? Yeah And The

And maybe it's just the bodegas around me That I frequent a lot Maybe it's a little more than Like you walk in once But I find Whenever I get A fucking Tobacco or whatever i get there they always they're always like five for one a five by five get one free and i'm always like yeah turn out a

deal yeah yeah and uh then they go you want some chocolate mushrooms and i'm like ah i'm okay maybe the next weekend whatever labor day weekend i was I'm going to get mushrooms this weekend. And I went to check out. And I was like, by the way, I'm going to get some of those mushrooms. And he's like, oh, hell yeah. And he got to go in the back. And while we're back there, he goes, do you want to get five for one? I was like, five for one mushroom bars?

No, I do it for zins, dude. I'm not going gonna buy six bars of mushrooms what are you fucking that is not a drug now look five grams of coke I get six yeah I'll take you up on that but mushrooms is not a fucking

drug that you're like I'm gonna need a shitload of this dude I'll tell you what even even it kind of goes along with the gambling like drugs becoming either so legalized or prevalent even that it's like i shouldn't be getting like promo code deals for my drugs bro there should be a shady back deal operation man my drugs had frosted flakes in them this week jackie's not. You had them? No, I just had the Lucky Charms on. Yeah, do your mic.

It is, yeah, I bought just a dark chocolate and Frosted Flakes. Because, by the way, once I turn down five... A chocolate bar and a Frosted Flakes bar? No, it's like, I mean, it's like a... Damn, this is some fucking... This is what I mean.

This is like... I miss the days of fucking a bag of stinky toadstool mushrooms. Yeah, eating fucking mushrooms and people being like, maybe I'll make a peanut butter sandwich with it because that's the only thing I can think of that might go with this. Otherwise, we're just going to choke down these caps and be like, it was gross, but we're going to get high as shit. Not like, let me eat my Belgian chocolate candy bar. I prefer the actual mushrooms way more. That was fine.

And you eat the whole bar? No, it was like on the back. It has your one to three pieces is elevate – mindfulness. Yeah. Four to nine is elevated. Dude, that's the other shit, the fucking scale. I need like 10 function, lose function, you're in trouble. Those are the fucking –

I think it was 10 to 15 or 9 to 15 pieces was walls might melt. Okay. I probably had like – I probably only had like four. So it didn't really do much to me. But mushrooms are better than the chocolates. Yeah, you got some caps. You got some stems. And I know how many of each are roughly going to –

That's what I was going to say. You like the dry or the wet? Because the wet was the shit we did in Amsterdam to make it drop, right? Yeah. or the wet because the wet was the shit we did in amsterdam to make it drop right yeah yeah um but the you're right with the drugs and and gambling they both kind of jumped the shark once they got legalized yeah i think it's it's i think i think drinking and again it's because i like it is why i probably think it hasn't jumped the shark i'm sure people will be like no drinking whatever i get it but the like i the argument I made in my head was that scientists can't fuck with drinking. Like the weed, like, oh, we got this strain and this and that, and the gambling.

Like, yeah, the mathematicians came in and started doing shit. Like, the lames can't fuck with it. Right. It just is what it is. It stays on its own. And even, like, there's – because we've done it. We've done like Everclear grain alcohol. That's just like the maximum.

And then you're down to like your little fucking Malibu Bay Breeze. But that's it. You can't go outside of that realm at all. So there's everything. You have this drinks for like girls or kids or people who don't want to get too drunk. And then you've got the hardcore shit, and you know how much it is every time, and you know I need to drink six of these or three of these or ten of those or whatever,

it's a good system we've got in place. I mean, it's horrific if people die from it all the time. It's probably the poster child for why we should have everything else regulated and legalized more than drinking. But for getting fucked up, the system works very well. Yeah. Nerds can't come in and take it. Nerds can't do drinking.

They can do the drugs, and they can do the gambling, and they can do all the math stuff. It's this pure little thing. I love the math. I'm going to drink and not do math. You fucking losers. That's right there. What do you guys want to do today? Let's go to a bar, get fucked up, and not do math you fucking losers that's right right there yeah that that's like like what do you guys want to do today like let's go to a bar get fucked up and not do any math

you know because for real though how many drinks you had i don't know i don't yeah i also i i it's borderline impressive but i also hate it i mean if i asked like dan or dave to just do like a math problem right now they'd be morons if i told them like my three-team parlay and this needs to hit with that and they'd be like oh we need like 21 points in the next three minutes it's like they alone in pies yeah yeah like they just have that that but it's like i don't like any of that either like i don't want to i don't want to hear about what the fucking mathematical equation you need to hit your parlay. I don't want to hear about your nerd shit.

I just want to sit here and get drunk and be stupid. Shut up about your $15 bet. Yeah, for real. Shut up about pretty much anything, really, at the end of the day. Except the Appalachian 3. By the way, because that's sticking with me, how you said shitty movies. Yeah, well, that's different. Talking about awesome scenes in movies movies that's the kind of shit

that doesn't ever get lame you can tell me anytime remember that time in the movie where he fucking shot that guy in the head yeah yeah that was cool man bro there's nothing cooler than someone describing how they're about to kill somebody it's like larry bird when he's like i'm gonna shoot it from right here there's nothing you can stop me tell him and they and it happens anyway there's a scene in the equalizer when he's just like your boy's one foot too close to me yeah have you seen it? Yes. Oh, no, no, no.

I haven't seen the new one, but I know you're talking about like that fucking, his vibe like that. And that's bad for him. Yes. Let me tell you exactly what's going to happen.

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Wait, he got a Pirate Water tat? Is that what that was? I mean, that couldn't have been a Pirate Water tat. I mean, no. It is a pirate. It's just a pirate. That's the harm to the pirate. I can tell now. It's just a pirate. I'm not just a pirate. That's the harm to the pirate. I can tell now. That's just a pirate.

Well, just run it back anyway. Sad boy season. Question. What is something that you never noticed that once it was pointed out to you, you have not been able to get out of your head? For me, I had an ex-girlfriend who

always hated coming to my dad's house, which I'm at for sure for the weekend because he drips bogues inside, so it just smells like cigarettes inside. I mean, we've got the dirty ashtray here. Oh, yeah. So now I notice it, and I mean, I still don't mind it because it's just the way my house smells, but I'm embarrassed

by it now. So what's something that somebody pointed out to you that you never noticed, but now it's all you can think about? Bro, I'll tell you what. Or like, pointed out to you that you never noticed, but now it's, like, all you can think about? Bro, I'll tell you what. Or, like, it's just something that you never noticed, you know? All right. First of all, this guy's accent's perfect. I miss somebody in my life having a dirty, disgusting, smoky house.

Like, that's just gone. Yeah. That just doesn't even, like, I feel like even grandparents who are, like, addicted to cigarettes still, like, smoke outside of their own home. Yeah, yeah. Like, my grandma used to just fucking light up cancer sticks and just let them sit. Just, like, incense. I just watched, like, a stream of smoke. And I lived, there was, like, a period of time where we were moving back and forth and shit.

So I, like, basically lived with my grandma. And I just lived in a fucking cancer house like and i can't imagine how much i probably smelled like cigarettes and like just it was just life though and like i i don't know if people if other people were like their grandparents were like that too so they didn't notice or if they did notice they just didn't say anything or whatever it was it was just like yes his grandma's disgusting fucking house but like whatever we i never i i agree and i i agreed very wholeheartedly and then i always get the name of the bar little richards richards chicago yeah yeah we're like i was like i miss a bar that's with smoke in And I went and I was like weeping. Well, here's the problem though.

This is the problem. That bar has an excessive amount of smoke because it's the one spot you can do it. Right. When you go to a, when, when every bar was allowed to smoke, like 10 to 15 people were smoking. Yeah. And then this was like, let's go, let's all go to a bar and smoke. So you can like see the smoke.

It was crazy. Dude. I'll never forget. It was great. It was like, let's all go inside and smoke. Go to a bar and smoke. So you could like see the smoke almost. It was crazy. Dude, I'll never forget. It was great, but it was crazy. The bar that we went to when we were like in high school, it was particularly smoky because it was just like we're allowed to smoke and drink in here. So like everybody drink as much as you can and smoke as much as you can. And I remember washing. I went home and I took a shower that night. And like the smoke was – like my head was on the back of the wall.

Oh, yeah. And I could see it was like black just from smoke that was coming off of my body. And that's just I mean, don't get me wrong. That is disgusting. And this is absolutely the poster child for what you just said of like, I miss it. And then if I had it back, I think I'm never going there again. But I just want. Like.

There was. We used to go to the Mirage Diner. And there was the smoking section. And it was literally. A glass box. Because it was like. All the outside windows. And then even the inside was glass.

And it was just. A literal cancer box. And we would just. You know. We were absolutely hammered. And we would like. Drive. Drunk.

From the bar. To the diner. Smoke cigarettes. And eat fucking. Like, and eat fucking cheese fries with gravy. It was the most disgusting thing you could do, and I miss it so goddamn much. But that also – back then when it was a little more common, I didn't know it. This guy needs to know now. I mean, when was the last time you saw an ashtray? even just an ashtray sitting around someone's house is pretty fucking rare you got to know that it's pretty disgusting to have a smokehouse now so i i i was thinking this was going to be more

like little like idiosyncrasies in your life but like that if you don't know that if you bring girls home to your dad's fucking you know smokehouse that they're going to be like this is gross that you know they're all going to feel that way. That's a pretty clear one, I think. I think it's making a little bit of a comeback, though. Smoking? Yeah, a little bit. Not inside, but... The laws will never make a comeback, but

I heard something that the generation after me almost eradicated smoking. No one in that generation smoked and now the younger generations it's like back on the rise a little bit aren't like

vape companies owned by tobacco companies and that was just their way to shoehorn it back in or back door it in but even I think people are certain I think you vape and then you dip your toe into like cigarettes that's what I mean because I don't count vaping as like no I don't either but they were like they'll like this I think people are certain – I think you vape and then you dip your toe into like cigarettes. That's what I mean. Yeah. Like they –

Because I don't count vaping as like – No, I don't either. But they were like, they'll like this and then they'll come back. Yeah. Because the real thing is – It's 100% what it is. Yeah. Like you know that's like –

It's a gateway. You're a gateway drug. Yeah. Yeah. But as for the – what like people have told you, I can't think of something right now but that is why i don't tell anybody anything because i don't want to have other information other than what i have yes like whatever i see and do i like and i want it that way why yeah why do i don't why do i need to know because because it will affect me it will change my opinion on something

it will like i think there will change my opinion on something. I think there's an episode of How I Met Your Mother on it. It's like, oh, you broke the glass. And they're pointing out flaws in other people's significant others. And they have that glass shattering moment. Now I can't go back. You're right. I can't unsee that now.

I don't need to fucking see what you see about anything. It's like when I found out that girls do porn was all illegal it's exactly like that can't watch those ever again once i found out it was human trafficking it really really kind of ruined the fun of that series it is like i i need i i live in my own world i don't none of you need to be in it right and i don't need that's why i i don't even like uh yeah like don't don't get educated don't tell. And I don't need to... That's why I don't even like... Yeah, like, don't get educated. Don't tell me anything. I don't need any more information. There is, like...

There is an argument to be made about broader issues and stuff like that. But, like, specific things in my life... Leave me alone. I don't need to know your opinion on it. Yeah. Like, what I'm doing, who I'm talking to, who I'm seeing. Most of it, I already know. Yeah.

That's why I've had situations where people are like, you know, this person is getting cheated on. Should you tell them? And I'm like, no, because I think they already know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think they're just like, it's okay for whatever reason they've decided. But it's not okay if my friends know that I'm – Yeah, yeah, I can't be a dick. Yeah. It's like if I've decided that that girl can cheat on me but it's still better to have her in my life than not, fine.

I can't know that my friends know that about me because then I look like a chump. So everybody just lie. Yeah. Life's all about just maintaining your lies to keep you happy. And this isn't something that you could just be like, I'm not telling you about this because she would have seen it. But in other things, don't tell me your opinion on anything. Well, you know what else? This is kind of like – you know, like when I see those videos that are like, this is what they do to chickens on farms.

I'm like, I don't even know that. You need to scroll past that real fast. Yeah, that's what I mean. Like I don't let that happen to me. But if someone was trying to – You know what did fuck me up a little bit? Going to Whistlepig and learning how pigs are, like, really human-like. Oh, my buddy –

And we just slaughter the fuck out of pigs. My buddy became a vegetarian after he worked on a farm, and they like they're like yeah like this pig's smarter than your dog yeah like we don't i was gonna say we don't touch dogs because they're so like smart or whatever pigs like decorate their houses yeah they like they like literally like make their living space like nicer on purpose for like so you know chickens are just like disgusting creatures that we should wipe out and eat. That's fine with me. But between hot dogs and ham and pork and bacon, we slaughter the fuck out of pigs. And they're really cool and smart.

And I'm doing it right now. I'm doing exactly what I don't want. But I don't know. To me, it's like I don't necessarily have to have pig. I could probably cut pig out of my life. I got a belly full of pork right now. But you don't need pork, do you?

I eat a lot of pork. You do? I don't need it, but I eat a lot of it. What would you eat? A lot of pork tenderloin, pork chop, and ground pork.

Hmm. This comes to my HelloFresh. I wouldn't have guessed that. I rarely ever bought pork But it just comes as a hella fresh lot

And I'm like okay sure It's so weird that pigs can be like Pork chops but then also bacon And then also They're very versatile right Is that every animal though I don't think so No

I think chicken is pretty much chicken Cows can be steak and burgers and that's about it yeah taste can be anything man that's why we fucking that's why we whack them dude i guess they're not that smart it wouldn't be so tasty maybe you guys switch up your diet or something stop being so delicious if you're so smart that's a good question, though. That's a hard one to think of. There's definitely some examples we'll think of.

Tweet at us. I'm sure we'll all have some similar ones that we can share. What's up, guys? Quick question for John, then a question for, I guess, the group, but probably mostly Kevin. John, a couple years ago you said, you asked Kevin, is this what happiness feels like? And he's been lying to us this whole time. You seem to be a lot happier

and just checking in on you. And then, Kevin, question is, why don't you guys get on Rogan? I don't know the whole process behind it all. I don't know how it works at all. But I think if you got you, John, and then maybe like Rowan and Francis, whatever, and just pitched your pitch to Rowan and Francis, whatever, and just pitched

your pitch to Rogan and did a podcast, I think you guys could kill and also bring back the three-hour podcast. The first part was very funny, though. I don't know exactly what he's thinking of, but that was just like, that was a man who was like...

I recorded that recently. What was this? I just think like what if like happiness is just like what you see in movies is made up and just what you feel. Yeah, how do we know that that's what you're supposed to feel? You just grow up on thinking – They talk about what happened with like girls with Disney princesses and shit like that. Like what if you're just conditioned to be like

this is what happiness is and it's not a thing it's not this unattainable that what you see in movies is unattainable what you are is happy and then that

turns into depression because you realize that the other thing is unattainable I mean I definitely not even realizing it but just like why don't I feel that way

there's gotta be some baseline though, like, all kind of agree on, like, like, I think, I think if you were like a caveman on the run for your life all the time, you're not you're not enjoying your life. Right. So once you can, like, settle down and you have a place to live and food to eat and shelter you're gonna be like a happier person right i maybe but then when you get too much material stuff i think that starts to fuck it up but you have to agree that like having some things of like i have clothes to stay warm i'm gonna be a happier person than if i was shivering in this cave all the time i have food to eat and i don't have to worry about am I going to starve to death. I'm happier. But then maybe you're not like living out your

biological need to like do that stuff. Yeah. You don't even have the option to do that shit. But I think being like prey is not like the chance of like I might be fucking whacked out by like a dinosaur right now is not like oh that's making me happy. I guess

but let's go ask fucking a couple of third graders what they think yeah you know yeah i get like what i always say my happiest was like that that level of like ride my bike playing little league baseball my fucking around my friends and there was no money, sex, or drugs and alcohol involved. That's when I feel like I was my happiest. So all the adult ones. Or AR-15s. I think

elementary school pre-2001 was a lot more fun. I think it was 2000, maybe. I think it was 99. Was it 99? Whatever year it was. Right around then. You're getting your mass death casualties mixed up.

2001 was 9-11. No, no, no, no, no. Like the... Oh, the rule or whatever? The law. No, no, no, no. The rule or whatever. The law that expired. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think it was after Columbine because those fellas weren't working with any

heavy duty. Columbine is one of the weirder like I recently listened to a podcast on it and read up some of the details. Like their whole plan went totally wrong. They had barbecue, what are those called? Propane tanks that were supposed to be bombs that were going off that didn't work.

Oh, really? They tried to rig up a homemade bomb that didn't work. And they were like, I guess we'll just start shooting people. But their whole plan and everything, their manifesto, didn't even work. Dude, I read recently... There was a cop that shot some kids. It was from his bullet. They were shooting, and the cops were shooting down a hill trying to hit the fucking gunman.

Yeah. But ended up shooting. Nobody knew who was who yeah and i think a cop killed a kid and they like did the ballistics and they're like yeah that's from your gun and they like kind of hid that and paid off the family and shit there's like some really yeah there's some deep shit in columbine that like it was just pre-it like internet so it's just like you just watch the news and that's it there was an article i read it must have been the 20th anniversary maybe 20 something anniversary recently i. 20-something anniversary recently.

I want to say it was in The Atlantic, where they talked to, like, the guy who's, like, the – he's in charge of security for Columbine now. It's crazy. Like, how many, like, fucking people come to, like, worship at the school and shit like that. Like, they're on call at all times. I can't believe they didn't, like, just shut it down. I think it was, like, before – like, now they're like, we got to take this believe they didn't like just shut it down i think it was like before like now they're like we gotta take this down because people are gonna turn into a church um yeah yeah the other like people now just like when it happened they're like this will probably never happen again freak occurrence right yeah they um and like like i think the whole thing

went on for like hours but it was really like they shot everybody and killed themselves in a matter of minutes. But again, nobody knew what was going on, so it was locked down for hours and hours and hours. So there was fucking guys trying to clear the school when it was like, it's all done. You know what I mean? So I don't know.

Anyway, let's do another person. I'll end on a happier note than that. By the way, speaking of Combine, I am happier. Thanks for asking. Do you guys want to invite me to my birthday party? Explain yourself. Explain. This is a promo. I was going to take it out.

Okay, so I was at the end of the podcast, I was trying to figure out who to invite to my birthday party. And so then I was at the end of the podcast I was like trying to like figure out who to invite to my birthday party and so then I was like only half listening and I heard what I thought was the call line so I tuned out because I was like oh they're talking like football whatever like whatever they're talking call line and so then I instantly after like wait and I did not realize like how insensitive it sounded um I might kick it out I don't know I guess I can't no no that's absolutely they bring it up I I know for some reason I still I thought they were just like oh like one minute you're talking about football

next you're talking about Jackie's birthday party I didn't I didn't realize that they were talking about Columbine and so I did not realize that that was they were very openly talking about like dead kids no now that I'm editing back I'm realizing like so not the time to bring up my birthday party. You didn't get that? No. I have to edit it out. It looks so bad. No. Or not. What? Do you guys want invited to my birthday party or not?

When is it? Thursday. I... Ah, busy Thursday. I can't believe. No, I'll come. We are... We'll come later.

Really? That's a weird reaction yeah I'm wearing I'm wearing fucking hair oil just so you know but

why do you look surprised we wouldn't come to your birthday party no I'm not no I know that you wouldn't come I'll send you the invite

just like cause it feels weird to send everyone but you went you're not gonna go to the birthday party I mean I no but here's the thing

I would have but now I'm not going. Oh, right. Oh, are you kidding? You would have? No, you wouldn't have. I absolutely would have come. Would you have, actually? Yes.

I know I don't go out a lot, but for your birthday, if you're like, I'm having a birthday party, could you come? Of course I would come. Well, as long as it works out. You being so surprised I would come and so surprised Kevin wouldn't come is very bizarre. Of course I was going to come.

I'm always there for big shit. Of course Kevin would have come. If you were just like, I don't care about my birthday or whatever, but if you're like, I'm having a birthday party. Well, not like it's like, it's like, obviously you guys do not have to come. Like I don't, but. Bro, you're having it at like my favorite bar. Of course I'm going to go. Okay.

Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. It's like the bar I go to. But you're not going to go because you're so butthurt that you were the second invite. I'm going to go. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. It's like the bar I go to. But you're not going to go because you're so butthurt that you were the second invite. I'm not the second invite. I was just invited after Nate.

Nate got the invite to the birthday party before me. Nate was a half-ass invite. What is this? This isn't a half-ass invite. Also, are you doing your invitations during the show? No, no, no, no. Are you doing invitations? No, no, no, no. Are you doing invitations? No, no, no, no.

Oh. I just, I was doing work, and then, and then. Sure you were. Sure you were. Jackie's so slick. I was doing work. Like, your head popped up and your hand raised as if you were filling out an invite list. And you're like, oh, by the way, you guys want to invite to the party?

In the past five minutes, I've been filling out an invite list. Okay. So you were doing invitations. Well, but not the whole time. But while you raised your hand, you were like, oh, shit, yeah. Yes. That was the technically. Yeah, I had a feeling.

And I just wanted to know. What other show can you just pivot right from Columbine to fucking invitations. Alright, so It's tomorrow Thursday? Or like this Thursday? Is that your actual birthday? When's your actual birthday? Wednesday. Tomorrow? Tomorrow.

Okay. Let's uh Also like it's gonna be like a bunch of like you guys there's no pressure obviously. Also, like, it's going to be, like, a bunch of – like, you guys, there's no pressure, obviously. She's fagging out. No, no, no. If you old guys don't want to come, that's all right.

No, I want you guys to come, but I feel like you guys – like, I want you guys to come and then just be like, oh, like, they're just, like, her annoying friends. Do you know what I mean? I mean, I think I know what your 22nd birthday is going to be like. I have been to them before. I thought we were going to sit down and talk about politics and geopolitical status of the country. I'm always talking about politics. 23? Four.

Four? I know. Washed up. Yikes. Probably should just kill yourself. Yeah, I think we're going to be away for a little bit Thursday, but if we are back, I will absolutely go to that. You're one of my favorite followers on the fucking show.

Thank you, brother. My man. You fucking kill me. You are. You make me laugh my ass off. Thank you, brother. Every fucking time. That really means a lot.

One of my favorite followers, man. That is an honor, dude. You make me laugh my ass off. Were we running? Were Every fucking time. That really means a lot. One of my favorite follows, man. That is an honor, dude. You make me laugh my ass off. Were we running? Were the mics running on that one? I hope we got that. I hope we got that, man. I'm so glad I'm getting to meet you, man.

Shit, what is... Seriously, man. Is this a prank or something? No, seriously. You make my life... I laugh my ass off, dude. I love it. When I see you come up, I turn the sound up.

I know that's going to be funny. There is the rocker, dog. Bro, this... I mean, you know... When I see you come up I'm turning the sound up I know that's gonna be funny There it is Bro this I mean You know I'm 38 I'm like a 90s kid And you know Kind of found country music

A little later in life And so you are My fucking guy So for you to be saying Anything about me like that Is crazy right now I'm very honored But thank you for taking the time

You kind of stole our thunder We're supposed to do that Yeah Oh no dude I mean I don't know about me like that is crazy right now i'm very honored but thank you for taking the time you kind of stole our thunder we're supposed to do that oh no dude i mean i don't know he kills me i get home on the current news you should have it you just you present it so funny i'm just laughing let's go it's funny how many people do say that because i think i i mean i hope i do a good job but i also think people are just sick of the regular fucking no that's for sure it was it was just good timing uh to to tell it like it is but um shit man it's wild because uh you know this is this our turn now though because you are i think one of the the rare people who have uh not one but like two almost like legendary careers at the same time in a way you know i mean obviously in music but

i've always for me in the beginning people knew me as my initials kfc and then a lot of people sort of call me the one minute man and it was like a mind fuck for me and i i'm sure you know there are people whatever age they are they they yell out hootie oh absolutely absolutely you're 100 right yeah i mean that's a good thing, right? It is a good thing, man. I always say when somebody asks me one day, do you hate when people call you Hootie? I'm like, I'm glad they still know who the hell I am.

Right. That's what the Dave Alprez, our boss, when he, you know, there's been so many iterations of Barstool, but for a while he's kind of become more of a pizza guy. And for a while people would use that as like a put down like oh he just does pizza now he's like i don't care how you know me yeah as long as you know me exactly exactly i mean who the i'm sure these are questions you've answered a million times before but the the hootie thing is funny that it became like you you were hootie dude you know like that's so funny to me the funny thing

for me is i named a band Yeah, okay And when I named a band I never thought people would call me Hootie It never clicked to me You're the front man I know I'm such a fucking idiot I'm such an idiot

That is pretty fucking stupid It never It never fucking clicked And now I'm like Fuck, I'm not in That's crazy I was like Alright, I'm crazy I'm just gonna'm not in. That's crazy. I was like, all right, I'm crazy.

I'm just going to have a canned answer. That's crazy. I mean, actually, I don't know what's worse. You're Hootie, but they're the Blowfish. That's true. That's true. That's true. I don't know what you're worth.

Bruce seems like, I never thought they were going to call me Bruce. That's funny Was Hootie How long before you blew up with Hootie? Seven years we were banned Before we got a record deal Before you even had a deal So it was like truly grinding for seven years Grinding for seven years

By the end of it though We were I think We were all making more money Than our friends who had gotten college degrees, gotten jobs. Really? We were playing the same clubs every six weeks. Yeah. But, you know, we were selling them out, you know.

Okay. So it wasn't like, you know, starving artists. Oh, we weren't starving. You were good. We weren't rich, but we weren't starving. That's for sure. That's cool, man. So, like, I'm sure at that point you're thinking, like, we're playing the gigs,

the clubs we want or whatever, we've got a roof over our heads. Did you have families at that point or anything? No, nobody had a family. And we had gotten a record deal with this label out in L.A. and it fell through. And it left such a bitter taste in our mouth that when everything really started happening, we weren't even really looking anymore. Really?

Isn't it always the way in life when you're not looking for something? Absolutely. Whether it's a relationship or work or whatever, that's when you find it. We had put out an EP called Coochie Pop, and we were selling it like crazy out of our van and at these mom and pop record stores. Shit. And we were playing, like I said, the same clubs every six weeks. I think we played 250 dates that year or something.

Wow. And we all made $75,000. Shit. Yeah. Wow. And, you know, we all made $75,000 each. Shit. Yeah. Yeah. That was it. So you're doing that thinking, like, all right, we're good,

and then all of a sudden you have one of the biggest albums of, you know, the decade, right? Yeah. But was that, like, did you, like, switch styles or anything? No. Or just, like, you had, like, three or four singles that just hit and it just went? We were just playing the clubs, and then one day uh then like i said we were selling all those

coochie pop cds and back then now that's a good name and it means exactly what you think i was thinking to myself that's so slimy he's exactly what you think it means wait wait hey i'm sorry to interrupt you. I don't know what I think it means. The pop part? The Gucci part. You can tell us on Barstool.

I'll tell you how we named it. We were doing it in Charlotte. We were in this little hotel we were staying in, making this record, and we started watching Comedy Central. And they used to have stand-up stand-up. It was like MTV where they just showed comedians back and forth. and we started watching Comedy Central, and they used to have stand-up stand-up. It was like MTV where they just showed comedians back and forth. And Shirley Hample, who's played Shirley on What's Happening,

was talking, and she said her daughter was going out, and they were going, she was going to the beach, and she came out and she said, her baby didn't even cover her coochie pop. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Maybe a coochie pop. I'm glad I asked I was thinking it was a coochie flavored popsicle It is

There's no wrong answer I was like I just pitched myself on the beach But like you know Grunge was king Right So nobody was looking for a band like us And back then it was before computers did billboard. It was still when you called a record store

and they told you what their top 50 records were. Really? And they were calling. There was like five or six record stores that were selling us in the Carolinas. And they were selling like crazy. And so when they did their billboard report, we'd be three, Hootie the Blowfish.

And so somebody noticed there was, out in the south, there's this band Hootie the blowfish out selling rem and youtube we gotta go find them yeah and then all the labels came down and tried to sign us no shit that's yeah that that to me is like that's the essence of what it's the opposite of everything now because that's just a tangible real result people were listening they were buying out of the trunk they're going to the fucking club and they're calling. And like, and it's not that you got a, you know, a bunch of TikTok followers. And if you went to try to sell out a club, you couldn't do it.

You know, it's like, no, no, the people were there first. Yeah, exactly. The whole way around. Exactly. I can't fault the industry for going the way it went, but it's like, seems a lot smarter to, you know. It was, it was different. Like, I can't, I can't get it was different like i can't i can't

get mad at streaming you can't get mad at the way it is i mean the internet just changed the world and and that's everything but better or worse you know you made your decision but back then i mean you know it was hard to get anybody to even listen to you right yeah but then once you did you had them Whereas now Like now And unfortunately I'm a product I'll have some mix On Spotify And I'm like

I don't even know Who that was And then like I'll probably never Hear that song again Because it just gets Shuffled and all that stuff But I feel like once

Because it was in my pocket But once someone Introduced you to a song It was like Sit down Listen to this And then you'd look At the album

Or the tape Or the lyrics And like It was You were in Yeah I mean I remember In the 90s listen to this and then you like we'd look at the album are they like it was you were in yeah I mean I remember in the 90s buying an album off of one single like if you had a little and I would play 10 12 15 18 tracks whatever and sometimes it was the only song I liked but I would be like okay I don't know like they're a one hit wonder

Or whatever But that's why You know when Hootie had like Just banger after banger It was like Holy shit I mean all of those were Like number one singles right

I mean they were all Yeah How many albums did that sell How many albums did that sell 21 million Oh Shit It's the 8th best selling record

In the history of the US No shit 21 is nuts Nuts Oh Shit It's the 8th best Seller record in the history Of the United States No shit 21 is Nuts Nuts That's nuts That

Yeah I mean That sort of shit I mean That shit's never Gonna happen again I was gonna say Does anybody even go Like Diamond anymore

No right I think the last Diamond record Might have been Adele Yeah and she's Like a different animal You know it's like You know like. Yeah, she's a different animal. You know, if Taylor Swift isn't putting up $21 million,

like, ain't nobody. Taylor seems like she could crap $21 million. The way his go over her right now. That is just another level. Was that, at that point, a level of fame? Did it get crazy? Yeah, it got crazy. Like, can't go anywhere?

The best part of it was it was the four of us. We were always together. So, you know, we kept each other grounded. And where we lived, we had already been playing the biggest club there.

So all the people we saw already knew. You already knew. Yeah. So it wasn't that bad there. But, you know, like, you know, getting in the airports

and shit started getting crazy. Yeah. What is the difference? We had Sypha Sounds in here recently and he was talking about DJing back in the day versus DJing now and how bottle service and table service ruined clubs and stuff like that. What's been the biggest difference? And obviously, you're playing in much bigger – you're playing stadiums, arenas, all that stuff now. But what's been the biggest difference you've noticed from, like, live performances?

Oh, for me, there's no difference on live. None? Really? I mean, live music is still the same. No way. The biggest difference

in the business is that when we started in 94, the only reason we went on tour was to advertise our records. I mean, you're making money,

but you went on tour to advertise your records. Nowadays, the only reason you make a record is so you can have a tour. That's wild. Yeah,

because nobody's making money off records anymore. Yeah, and that's all just because the streaming, they just hold all the cards? We make, I think, this could be wrong, but I think we make.0000001 set per stream every time we get the play record. So even if you're getting billions, it's like. 650 million streams is, I don't know, $15,000. I think we had Luke Bryan on a while back,

and I think he was... I was just thinking in my head that I must be misremembering the number, but now that you say that, maybe I'm not. Then you said you had, like, a $4,000 check from Spotify. Yeah. And I'm like, that's nuts! And the thing that makes you mad is when, you know, you see how many spins you're getting,

how many people are listening to you on Spotify, and you make a four thousand dollar check and then the ceo walks away with four billion yes yeah you know is there any way to like unionize government the the hate that you hate them for government have to fucking do anything but the laws just haven't caught up yeah right like the last time they did a law i'll never forget because they had a law that was coming up and lindsey graham south car they had a law that was coming up and Lindsey Graham, South Carolina senator, was supposed to bring it up and he decided that day

he wasn't going to bring it up. I wonder why. And so they called me and they're like, you know Lindsey Graham? I was like, yeah, I'm from South Carolina, man. I mean, would you call him

and ask him to put it on? So I called him up and asked him to put it on and he did and it passed. But when it passed, that was when we got.00001. That was what it was for. Before that it was less.

Holy shit. Yeah. And so it's just like but when it passed that was when we got.0000 that was what it was for before that it was less holy shit yeah and so it's just like Spotify, Apple and then maybe a couple other like smaller ones yeah and that's and yeah that's

that's gotta be considered a monopoly and they're making a fortune I mean they're making a fortune yeah cause music is not like music went away music is still one of the most popular things

oh music's never gonna go away yeah and and I know like Kanye tried to put his music on its own thing and Jay-Z with Tidal, but there's just not enough for the artist to try to fight back. If you really want people to hear your music, you can't do it. You can't do it.

I mean, you can put it out yourself, but the only people that hear it is people that know you. Do you think if you put together put together like the avengers of music right put together just like the top 10 guys or the longest veterans or whatever you got enough of them to say like we're not putting our stuff on spotify you think that would even put a dent if you could get jay-z adele taylor drake drake morgan uh you know and three to four other big people. They really got together and said, we're pulling our stuff off until you pay us, right? Absolutely.

I don't think that that's that far-fetched. Taylor tried to do something like that with Apple, didn't she? Yeah, but it put her down for a while. She's on Apple. Yeah. Like, I don't think, especially Taylor with, like, what she went through with her music. I feel like Jay-Z is kind of, like, on this other level. And, like, I don't think it's that far-fetched that some of those names would say, fuck it, let's do it.

And be remembered not only for your music and all that now, but you're remembered as the people who, like, saved, you know? The thing is, they could do that and see the old can walk away with $2 billion. Yeah. And then the rest of us can get paid. Yeah, but that's, yeah, it's like, yeah, it's like, why are you guys so, how much greed

is there really, you know? Because, yeah, it's not like you guys are going to go broke because we get rich. Everyone's just going to be rich.

It's like I saw the other day, the OnlyFans guy is paying himself a million dollars a day. That I cannot. I ain't mad at that. Can't run the game

good. I ain't mad at that. That man's a hero. If I get 50 grand a day, we'll call it even. Listen, just start putting your music on OnlyFans. You want to subscribe to my channel? Darius Parker's shower peg? Gross Mateen? There's like a shower pick Yeah Brush my teeth Yo

That is But I guess Was touring So you said You used to tour To sell records But touring wasn't Profitable at all

It was profitable But it wasn't like You were making great money Yeah But you were making So much more money off records But has touring Made more money now

Or it's always been the same? I think now touring is bigger. There's more people going out to see shows. And so you are making more money. And you're charging more for tickets. Everybody's charging more. I never thought I would ever charge $70 for a ticket. I remember I was getting mad when the Eagles came back

and it was $100 a ticket. And I was like, I'm not going to that show. But tickets you know, tickets are more, and merch is doing great. Touring is a great, I'm making a great living, I'd be lying if I said anything else. But, you know, it's just a big circle, and

you know, hopefully in my lifetime they'll figure out this thing, and they'll I actually think it's even just this past year, it started to bubble, like how ridiculous it is. Yeah. I think all you guys should say that number,.01, every time you're doing it. Oh, I do.

I think people know, but they don't know. And they go, oh, well, like, everyone's rich, so who cares? And it's like, well, not everyone. Not everyone. There's a lot of people who probably deserve to be who aren't, and people who are deserve more, and people who really are deserve less. And it's one of those things where they gave us a penny. Right, a penny.

A penny a spin. Everything changes. You know, that sounds like good marketing. Yeah. Like that could be the movement, just a penny a spin. A penny a spin. Because, you know, sometimes when there's these labor disputes in sports and now entertainment, more sports, when it's like oh the the the multi

millionaires are fighting the multi billionaires and the regular joe at home goes like fuck all these people you know but when it's like we're asking for one penny you know because there's just that much money to go around it's like who who should have who would have a problem with that i agree you know yeah i know i know it's that guy taking all the money home you know what you need not to be dark about it those you need a few people to die You know? Yeah, I know. It's that guy who's taking all the money home. Yeah, there's fucking like five guys. You know what you need not to be dark about it? You need a few people to die. There's a couple old men running shit who are just like,

when those guys kick it, the next generation will be like, yeah, just fucking break them off the plane. Yeah, break them off. It's all of them. You were talking about touring a lot. How much do you miss old days of touring? Just because I think about with us when we go on the road, and it's so easy to get stories and things like that because there's always a disaster and i think i would imagine it translates to writing songs as well like the experiences you have

whereas now i imagine it's pretty seamless the days somebody asked me this the other day he said do you miss when you when he was the biggest band in the world i was like no i miss in you, when you and Hilly were both the biggest band in the world? I was like, no. I miss in 91, 90, when we were playing clubs in a band, smells like foot and ass, five of us in a van driving around to these same cities

from New York down to Florida and Tennessee and just playing the same clubs because it was us against the world. Yeah.

And like you said, everything was getting fucked up and you had stories to tell and you were funny and it was just work and it was awesome. But did you, in that moment, did you know that? tell and you were funny and it was just work. It was awesome.

But did you, in that moment, did you know that? Or were you like, fucked it? I didn't know that. So like, actually when I really

started thinking about it was when Hootie started playing and I was like, man, I miss when we were playing close. That was awesome.

Yeah, that is a, it's a, it's like right before you really get comfortable. So you're not, you're not roughing it but it's still a little bit grinding.

Exactly. You know? Exactly. Yeah, that is. It's a fun time. It is. And then, so Hootie, when it's, you guys like broke up or just when, like it was. It was crazy because we were playing every summer.

That was our job. And I think that was one thing that made it so easy to stop playing was it was becoming a job. Yeah. It was a grind. And our drummer came in one day and just said, y'all, I don't want to be in a touring band anymore. And we're like, what do you mean? He's like, well, I'm going to go out next year, but I'm done. And we're like, wow.

You know, we've got money, but we ain't got enough money for me to stop playing. Was it really like that, though? Yeah. Even after, like? I mean, we had money. We were rich. What year was that? We had money, but I didn't have enough money to stay rich for the rest of my life.

I never worked again. I mean, you sold 21 million records, bro. But I split it four ways, bro. I was thinking about that. I was listening to another podcast. I can't remember which one it was, but they were talking about how there's no like boys to men there's no male

it was there's boy bands but they're saying there's no like black young men in groups and they're like they were saying

nobody wants to fucking split it like I can just do this myself or I'm gonna try to do it myself before I split it four ways

I love touring I don't play anything but like when Hootie toured in 19 I took a One fourth pay cut Jesus Christ From the three years before

Cause it's just Darryl Tucker vs Hootie It's the biggest tour We had We had Billboard Magazine Tour of the year All that shit Great tour

Every show sold out Awesome All over the world Great I took a fourth Pay cut of a four I took three quarters Of a pay cut

You are a good man That's how I help the boys out Yeah Cause yeah Took three quarters of a pay cut. You are a good man. That's how I help the boys out. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, listen, we still know the name Darius Rucker. Was there, like, a moment of, like, when it stopped being, like, hey, Hootie, and turned into, like, that's Darius Rucker? Yeah. I mean, that's also got to be another moment.

Like, as much as you love Hootie That's gotta be a cool Like okay Yeah The moment it really ended Was Wagon World That was when What year was that? Oh goodness I guess

10? I think it's 10 years old now I think so What is it? 13 That makes sense Cause I think I went to FSU

So I remember being in Tallahassee And being like This is It's like Every frat you went to No matter where you went You're like this is And I actually had gotten into...

I'm from Massachusetts, but I had gotten into country a little before. I feel like, and maybe it's just because it's where I was, I feel like country hit New England before it hit everywhere else. Obviously, it was the South. And then I feel like... You guys had the country fest.

Like, Kenny Chesney used to come do country fest, and then Taylor always had Foxborough. And for some reason, I think it kind of settled in New England a little bit and then obviously became what it is now. But I went down to Tallahassee as a country fan already, which surprised people. And then once Wagon Wheel hit, it was like. Yeah.

Yeah. Total. I mean, I'm from New York. And it was like a rap fan and then knew like 90s music. Yeah. But country, it was like but you you you knew like you know uh uh chicken fried and like so those were you know i could always sing along with that one you know chicken fried is one of my favorite songs i think that's yeah genius yeah

i was uh i was watching a movie the other day i was watching uh bruce almighty it was on my netflix i don't know why but they had sixpence Down the Richer played a song And I was like, this is so perfect Such a great song for this scene Have you ever been watching a movie Where you saw a scene and you were like This was the wrong song, they should use one of mine God yeah, I've seen that a million times

I say that a lot when I watch movies I love, I'm a movie dude. I mean, I try to see almost every movie that comes out at some point. And I always look at it, and I think that when I see it. And it's not just always my song. Like, I think some other song that I know that's all of it perfect right there. If you could put one of your songs in one scene, what would it be? Oh, probably.

That's a good question. Great question. That's a good question. That's a good question. If I could put any song in any movie, you're talking about, right? I would probably put Let Her Cry. I would use Let Her Cry at the end of The Godfather.

When they're killing five people. Let Her Cry. Play the whole song. I didn't think you were coming up with The Godfather. kill all five people? Play the whole song while I'm vibing. I didn't think you were coming up with the godfather. I'll get Coppola on the phone. One of our guys is going to make that for you. We will do that.

We'll get ripped off the internet immediately, but we will have that. That is awesome. That would be great. You should maybe do that for a living. Get into another entertainment space and like score films if you will i would love this not so much scoring but just yeah it's not the word you know because you know what else is gone is the set like soundtracks

used to be such a big deal and they were real like almost albums you know i think about like especially in the rap world there were mega hits that came from the Above the Rins soundtrack or the Bullworth soundtrack that's like what album was that on? Not even anybody's album it was just on a soundtrack I don't even know

how that happened I actually forgot about soundtracks I think the last soundtrack was the last soundtrack I loved was Greatest Showman which is like

great but that's the musical the musical is different than like this is just music that accompanies this type of film. Yeah, it's like when you watch a movie, like, do the right thing.

Right. The soundtrack makes that movie. I mean, it's a great movie and everything, but the soundtrack is... But the music is... The music is so great. So how would soundtracks work? Like, if you had a smash hit, but it wasn't on your album, it was on a soundtrack, all that money goes to the studio? No, it's just like it was on your record.

Oh, it's the same thing? Yeah, so like but so the label still gets it and you get whatever your cut is okay so it didn't really matter if it was no but i guess it would help you sell your and you get a big lump sum up front to be on the be on the movie so that would be like you would want oh yeah if you had to pick between your album though or a soundtrack you would want the hit on a soundtrack got it okay i didn't know that yeah well i guess yeah i'm thinking of um the Bodyguard with Whitney. Absolutely. That sold like

a hundred million fucking CDs because of I Will Always Love You. She was the love of Kevin who caused his life. Yeah. I love Kevin.

I love him. I love Kevin. You must have so many people you can just refer to like their first name. Not refer, like people you know.

I'm a kid from Charleston, South Carolina. I still live in Charleston. And I was thinking the other day, I was just sitting behind the other day doing something, and I was thinking of the people I know, and it's friggin' nuts. Yeah. The people that I call friends, the people that I can call on the phone. It's just nuts. Who would be the most surprising?

Most surprising? Yeah. Goodness, most surprising. I don't think anybody would be surprising. Kevin Yeah. Goodness. Most surprising. I don't think anybody would be surprising. Kevin Costner would have been surprising. It makes sense now that you say it. But when I heard it, I was like, what's Kevin Costner? The person, probably the most famous guy I have on my phone is Tiger.

Tiger's just so famous. So famous. We go way back. I sung at his dad's funeral. I sang at his wedding No way Really close Yeah

But And how did that How did that come about Oh great story We were playing We got a record deal And a record Had just come out

We were We had decided We had had these group of clubs That we had booked That they wanted us to cancel And we told them No we're not gonna cancel We're gonna play all these clubs

And we're gonna Sell them out And make sure everybody Makes money that night And we're playing Wait no, we're not going to cancel. We're going to play all these clubs, and we're going to sell them out and make sure everybody makes money that night. Wait, so the label signed you and forgot that old shit? We're going to play all these clubs that are booked. So we had booked a club in East Lansing, Michigan. And we go to Rick's Cafe American after the show, drunk.

And I walk in, and I look over, and I go, isn't that that kid, Tiger Woods? I was like, he's 18. He shouldn't be in here drinking. He was about to go to Stanford. He was about to go to Stanford. And I went over and introduced myself, and he knew who I was. We sat down, and the party just started. And we're standing there, and this is one of those things,

like when you tell stories like this, you go nowhere. We're standing there, just partying our ass off, sitting at this table, and we look over, and a dude walks in with a Stanley Cup and puts it on the bar because a Michigan State player, the guy that played for Michigan State, it was his week with the Cup, and he's just sitting on the bar. The world was there.

The Tiger was drinking out of the Stanley Cup just right in Cafe America. That's crazy. That was crazy. That was a crazy night. Dude. The Stanley Cup walks in. What did you put in my drink? Exactly.

To top the story off, we leave, and we're having a snowball fight with these guys, and this one guy throws a bottle at us. Oh, shit. Brawl? Yeah. Straight out. Tiger? No, Tiger.

We had left Tiger. And we are whooping ass. We are just over there whooping ass. It was awesome. Yo, that is great. What happened last night? I met Tiger Woods. I was standing in the car.

Beat the shit out of him. Killed some dude. Left some dude bleeding by his car. Yo, it's funny because like, you know, That's some dude bleeding by his car Yo It's funny cause like You know especially in the 90's With grunge And some of those fucking Hardcore bands in the 80's

And you know You wouldn't think of like Hootie and the Blowfish As You know But I'm sure you Would not be fucked with We were

You're still a rock band On tour and shit Like you know Guys guys together Like two of us Me and Sony Who, who are a drummer, we grew up fighting. Really? Like, I fought every week growing up. I mean, we all lived in a tough neighborhood.

We had the products behind us. We were fighting. We fought. That's what we did. Fighting's a fun thing to do. It is. It's so weird. It's like, I wish I could somehow raise my kid to get in some fights.

You know what I mean? I'm looking at his life. I'm like, how are you going to get in a fight, dude? You were preaching to the choir, dude. Yeah. My son is 18. Maybe we can get our kids together and let them beat each other up. My son is 18, and he's 6'4 now.

And you realize this when your kids get older. He truly believes in the thought he can beat me in a fight. And I can tell when I talk to him and I tell him I'll tell him kid I will fucking kill you I was like

two things are gonna happen you're gonna have to go home and go my dad just whooped my ass and oh my god I just got in a fight with my dad I always tell this story

of like in my my parents house there's we got a big gym boxing batting stuff like that. I remember, like, one time working out, and, like, I was, like, in high school or something like that. And I was jumping rope. My dad was hitting the bag.

And I was just like, dude, thank fucking God you never used to beat me. You are putting the hurt on that bag. And it's still to this day. I'll go home, and I'll, like, say hi to my mom. And she'll be like, doo, doo, doo, doo, up in the garage. I'll be like I'll say hi to my mom And she'll be like Up in the garage I'll be like He's still got it He's still throwing

Iron hands up there You have one son? I got one son Two daughters Two daughters Okay Yes So and they

So they're 18 He's 18 That's a little like So they They are Coming of age Kind of when When Darius Rucker Wagon wheels

They don't know Hootie was just Nothing of them right That's crazy Daddy had a fucking legendary career You don't even know about And now I got the new one You know how lucky you fuckers are

Yeah they're going to Yeah two of them went to NYU They're fucking lucky That's expensive Dude I can't even imagine 95 What'd you just say 95 Yeah, two of them went to NYU. They're fucking lucky. What's that time you were running these days? Dude, I can't even imagine what it is. What'd you just say? 95. 95?

Bro, I was going to guess 60. No. Oh, hell no. What? In like 1995 it ran. Fordham is like 75. Per year? Yeah.

Dude, this is why I didn't go to college. I know. I know. At what point do you say It ain't worth it man I guess I would rather pay 95 for NYU though Than like 80 for some fucking schmuck college At least NYU still carries some weight

A lot of people going into debt and shit For these schmuck colleges It's like What are you doing? Put that money into Literally any other Biggest scam going aside from Spotify. But Spotify does have the, I guess the positive aspect of it is I guess you can make a name.

You can stumble upon an artist more easily. Yes. You can, right? Like Playlist and all that stuff. That kind of just happened with Oliver Anthony. Where it was like A guy who went viral And it's like

Oh I don't know He's now Doing Joe Rogan And shit like that I guess it's I can't decide Is it easier to get found now Or then

Oh I think it's easier to get Found for sure It's easier to get found now But it just sucks for you But you know what I think It sucks if you're famous already Exactly I wonder

It's probably I feel like there's a It's easier to get found Hard to cut to the top yes like i feel like in back in the day you couldn't get found but once you did some record label and radio station just put you on and jammed you down everyone's throats until they were like we like them yes now it's like oh i've heard all this but i'm not going to listen to you a second time or third time yeah yeah you know they tell that with comedy we're like back in the day, like in the Johnny Carson stuff like that. If you got 15 minutes on Johnny Carson, or I'm sorry,

you had to do your five on Johnny Carson, you were getting a sitcom. That was it. It was over. For us, I mean, a record came out. We had five stations, three in South Carolina and maybe two in North Carolina playing our record. Not playing it a lot, just playing it every now and then. It's holding my hand.

And we do Letterman one day, on a Friday. And by Monday, we were on the way to being the biggest band in the world. No way. Yeah. One appearance on Letterman

changed our lives. That is, when we were talking to Sypha about the music industry as well, when he was talking about how, when he was a disc jockey, he's like, I was a tastemaker.

I found things I liked, and I could decide, these are going to be a big band that doesn't exist anymore even on TV I like this band put this band on TV they're going to be famous now

yeah oh yeah I mean it's funny because Dave because nobody was playing our record and the guy

who was the big radio station here in New York decided he liked the record and he was a rebel DJ and he was like I I want to play this. I heard this band, I love it. You know, we're not at it, but I was going to play it.

You guys tell me what you think. And Dave was driving him to work. Oh, that's the best kind of promotion, right? He was driving him to work, and he played it, pulled on the side of the road, called his booking agent. That was a Tuesday. We were on a Friday. Wow.

Dude, so you think about, like, if he's... And then from there, it's all in a week. Skyrock. Skyrock. If his radio, you know, loses signal because he's in a tunnel or he can't I'm not sitting here talking to y'all seriously

if he's in a tunnel can't hear it he never hears that record I'm not sitting here talking to you nuts do you honestly believe that do you think you would have

found a different way I think because grunge was king grunge was so big that there was nobody giving us a chance because we weren't grunged there was nobody out there

trying to help us or trying to play. Grunge was key. But like somebody, like the reason why that DJ and Letterman, like, you cut through the grunge.

You know what I mean? Yeah. Like I think somebody would have, maybe it wouldn't have been the same level, but which was, what was the first

big single? Hold My Hand. Hold My Hand. So there's Hold My Hand, Only Wanna Be With You, Let Her Cry. Yep. Those were like the three.

Those were all three off that one, yeah. Yeah. Jesus Christ. And Time. Actually, Time was the number one off that one, too. Yeah. Oh, my God. That is crazy.

And that's just, and then, and you know what else? Fucking music videos just are not a thing anymore either. Dude. You know? They're just not, you still make them because they're still the channels are playing but nobody's watching. Yeah, Jermaine Dupri

was on a podcast going, you can't just go to the bodega and film every rap video in front of your bodega. Somebody's got to go somewhere else.

That's so true. And these guys, it was on the Road podcast, a bunch of DJs and they were like, nah, come on, like Ice Spice and Megan Thee Stallion are doing this and that and they like of DJs. And they were like, nah, come on, like Ice Spice

and Megan Thee Stallion are doing this and that. And they like pulled up their videos and it was like, bodega, bodega, bodega. He's like, I'm saying, it's fine,

but someone's got to do it somewhere else. I actually saw a clip recently, I think it was on Instagram or whatever, where they were breaking down the exact opposite of this.

Remember the Jimmy Require video? Yes. Where he was on like the great video. That's a great video. They built the whole rotating... That's exactly the video. You might have seen the video I did. But they were talking about the effort

and the time that went into that. And the money to build that thing. I remember watching the MTV series and making the video, behind the video, whatever it's called. Michael Jackson and Janet Jackson video cost like $7 million to make just the video. And I'm sure some executive was like whatever absolutely and now now it's like yeah right here's a fraction of a penny did you ever have a lot of uh mtv interaction

yeah we're all over oh yeah did you ever do like the beach house something like that or we did the beach house we did all that stuff yeah The beach house, we did the skiing. We did all that. What was the beach house like? Decadent. I remember I was pretty young, so I don't have strong memories of it, but I just remember being like seven and being like, I think I like this. How old were you at the peak of hoody? The peak, I was probably 29.

Damn. That's still getting good. That's a good age. Yeah. 42. See what y'all are making me do. That was a good time. Man, that is.

So now I feel like you get found, like we were saying, like you can go viral on TikTok or whatever. And then it almost seems like you can have success and streams and people know your music. But, like, a lot of people in the rap game are canceling tours. And, like, it's just not translating the same. And is that just because there's so many more or like i'm just wondering what is it going to take will will there ever be another 21 million album like like i don't i'm sure there will probably but i don't see how yeah and if there is it's going to be like a phenomenon right like it's not just going to be

a band who people like it's going to be something it's because now the way they do it on streaming the way they count it's so different yeah you know back then you were counting every record that's old you can count that record sold that record sold now it's like x amount of streams equals a record or whatever they do right right crazy we uh we mentioned oliver anthony earlier and i think he i think that song is great i think he's such an interesting like character and i think the most interesting part of it where is how out of context i guess it is not out of context but how his song was taken and run with by different people and i think it's a weird position as an artist where like

you've created an art with your own thing in mind and you put it out in the world and then something different happens with it yeah people want to incorporate it for themselves and you have to come on go no that's not what i meant. Has something like that ever happened to you? No, not really. That's not what that song meant, or that's not what that lyric meant, or something like that. Oh, I've had to do that. Yeah.

I've had to explain, you know, what lyric was there? It was a lyric in one of our songs on Cracked Review that I had to keep explaining, but I don't remember what it was. But that happens just because, like you said, when you're writing a song, you're writing it for yourself. You're writing about what you think. If somebody else has to do it and they get a whole different thing out from it and they want to incorporate it and make it and you know it's you try not you try just let it go and let people think but sometimes you gotta go hey man

because you know what people are stupid bro tell me about it yeah it's like uh you know springsteen and born in the usa where it's like guys no the exact opposite of everything you're doing the exact opposite that's one're doing, the exact opposite. That's one of the things that I, every time I see it, I laugh, because, you know, I watch, when the political bait stuff, I watch it just to see where it was going. And when I see somebody play Born in the USA to have to walk out to, I really go, you have no idea what that song is. You have zero clue. Yeah, there are some times It can happen where it's a more personal thing

They took it to me a different thing That's like I'm explicitly saying something He's saying He's saying you suck Is what he's saying That's how much people don't listen to lyrics though For every one person Who can read and listen and understand

There's a million who just listen to the melody you know like for every one person who can read and listen and understand there's a million who just listen to the melody or the hook or whatever or they listen to one line and don't listen to the other yeah that's what happened

with the Oliver Anthony he had one line and everybody was like oh and he's like no no he had that with

the Republican debate right yeah he was like no I'm talking about you guys he was like you're the freaking people I'm talking about

you're the people I hate but thank you for getting me paid yeah but that's the rub right You're the freaking people I'm talking about. You're the people I hate. But thank you for getting me paid. But that's the rub, right? We always joke. I'm like, let's just become Republican 2A guys and just make this money. And it's like, because sometimes I feel like all you got to do is flip the switch. And then when the pendulum swings and you can get paid for being liberal, you go back that way. I feel like country is a pretty politicized genre, though.

It is. There's a lot of different dynamics. I think a lot of people don't want it to be, but there's such a faction that does want it to be that they take it. They're over about it. Most people in country music don't really care who you vote for. But the people that do are the ones you hear. Really? Yeah. Absolutely. The loudest people in the music doesn't really care who you vote for yeah but the people that do are the ones you hear yeah absolutely yeah the loudest people in the room yeah so you just kind of avoid all that i don't do politics at all brother not at all i mean like i've had candidates from both sides call me up hey will you come play for me i've had one guy offer me two million

dollars to come play a show and i didn't support him was like, fuck no. No, really? No. Two mil for a night? And I will say this to you. I was glad I was rich when that came out. Because if I wasn't rich, I might have been like, what the fuck am I doing? Everybody's got a knife in their mouth.

My values are for sale for the record. Any politician will do a lot. I will be there. Two million, I'm in. Absolutely. Live podcast from fucking Donald Trump's whatever.

Mar-a-Lago, here we come. I don't give a shit. Vivek needs a guy. Right here, baby. I'm happy. We haven't had any more, so we need you. Oh, man. That's funny shit there. So what else is... I'm happy I was there Yeah you can't do M&M anymore So we need you Oh man Shit dude That's funny shit there

So what else is We got Carolyn's boy October You're out You're out on the road Early for this I am

I am Because you know Trying to get some stuff done now Sure I'll be back in New York On October 6th But it's It's been six years Since I made a record

It's been six years Six years Since I made a record Now is that just the The I find that Like sometimes with this Where we're like I'm like It's been six years since I made a record. It's been six years? Six years since I made a record. Now, is that just the... I find that sometimes with this, I'm like, I could take off forever, and I'd be fine.

But then I'm gone for a week, and I'm like, I gotta let people know my opinions. Were you like that with writing songs? I was. In the middle of that, we did that last 2D record, and then the pandemic hit, and life would just slowing down, so I didn't get to do anything.

And I really was, about two years ago, three years ago, when I was like, man, I want to make a record. Like, I need to make a record right now. That's when I dove into the writing. Was the, like, a hoodie reunion, like, how does that come about? Like, is that a, was that a? We still play a couple shows every year, like our charity stuff. We still do that every year.

So everyone's on good terms. Yeah, we're great friends. We're family. When we did that last tour, somebody said, let's do the tour. And I had done so well in country. I was like, you know, y'all want to go on tour? Let's see what happens. And actually, I'm going to lie to you.

What I said was when we had the meeting, I said, I don't want to, but I will. But the only way I'm doing it, if it's not fucking huge, I'm out. I told him, because when we stopped playing, we were playing 15,000 seaters and putting 10,000 people in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you could see that when you're out there playing. It's still 10,000 people, but, you know,

I told him I don't want to do that. If we're not going to play stadiums and arenas and everything's going to sell out, I'm out. And I was like, you're going to prove it to me. And that's when they got Rob Light, who runs CAA, to surprise me in the show and go, it's going to be fucking huge. So what does that mean?

We're going to promote you everywhere? No, I just wanted to make sure people wanted to see us play. Yeah, but how can you determine whether that's true or not? They had talked to people, they had talked to promoters who had put some word out, and everybody was like, it will be huge. And I was like, okay. Hell yeah.

That's a great feeling, too. It's like, still got it. Okay, I'll do it, yeah. Hell yeah, man. That is unbelievable. Yeah, because I was taking a pay cut. Yeah, it's either money or enjoyment. Yeah, one or the other. That cut. Yeah, it's either money or enjoyment. One or the other.

That's what life's about, right? And I imagine Carolyn's Boy is a rather personal record. Yeah, it is. My mom was named Carolyn, and of course, Carolyn's Boy. But it's a record. Every time I make it, all I want is great songs on the record. That's all right. And I listen to a lot of songs, trying to look for great songs.

And with this record, I just wanted it to be personal and about me and about what's going on in my life and what's happening in my life. And that's what we did. I mean, it's the easiest. That's the best way to do it. Yeah. In my opinion, we're different genres. But it's real.

It's the only way to do it is I just talk about my life and my stuff. I forget who said it. Making it up is like. Someone was talking about comedy life and my stuff because – I forget who said it. They start making it up. Someone was talking about comedy, and I think it applies to every aspect of entertainment. You can be as successful as honest – you can be as successful – As you are honest? As you are honest, basically. It's like if you're telling your stories, then no one else can do it. AI can't do it.

Someone can't steal it. It is just – this is my joke. This is my story. This is my song. This is whatever. And the fans know it. The fans know when you're honest they know it you think any of this ai stuff this hysteria is is warranted yeah yeah you think it's a real like real threat yeah i i the people i think it's a threat to it's like it's a threat to those writers that are that are that are striking in l.a it's a threat to songwriters you know my son was showing me

the other day this AI thing with music, and I was like, what? He's like, yeah, I used to do this, this AI thing, and then boom, you have like... Hootie and the Bluffers song. I've said this before, and obviously there is some fear of it and all that stuff, but I don't know,

and maybe it's because I care about an artist and things like that, but if you told me, you played me a song, and I could go, wow, that's a great song, and you went, yeah, I wrote an artist and things like that, but if you told me, you played me a song and I could go, wow, that's a great song and you went, yeah, I wrote that and I would go, oh, well, I don't care anymore and I think it can trick you but I don't think it can get your heart

I agree What a great way to say it, I'm keeping that It can trick you, but it can't get your heart I agree with what you wanted to say Say the penny thing and keep beating that drum Well, dude, we really appreciate it This was awesome I agree with you Say the penny thing And that Keep beating that drum man Well dude We really appreciate it This was awesome

Thank you guys man If you got 10 more minutes We'd like to shoot a quick video with you Absolutely Darius thank you It was a true honor The record's out on October 6th Yes

And if you are back in New York Please come through Love to man I love doing barstool Dude hell yeah With my boy Glennie Balls Dude what a world Crazy

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