KFC Radio - Did I See You Out Tonight? (Featuring Ellie Schnitt)

Episode Date: July 27, 2018

The latest member of the Barstool family, Ellie Schnitt, left a voicemail explaining her hatred for a particular emoji and ask about why guys text "did I see you out tonight?" when they OBVIOUSLY did. Who plays more games when dating, guys or girls?You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/kfcr

Hey, KFC Radio listeners, you can find every episode of KFC Radio on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Friday edition of KFC Radio. Today's quickie is a very special one. We got a voicemail from our newest employee, Ellie, kind of responding to earlier this week. We talked about the monkey covering eyes emoji, the see no evil monkey emoji, where we had discussed what the fuck that emoji means. And Ellie had one of her ridiculously viral tweets about it, where she has a visceral problem with the eye emoji. So she called in to respond to that. And she got a question of her own.

So today's KC Radio Quickie is featuring Ellie Schnitt. Hey, guys. It's Ellie. So the reason that the monkey with the hands covering its eyes emoji makes me so uncomfortable is because people use it when they're flirting, and what they'll do is, like, tack it on to the end of more of like a forward sentence right but it's sort of like you're saying whatever i just said i'm preemptively embarrassed by it or

like i'm shy about what i just said and then that's like what's the point and like also what is attractive about that like confidence is sexy whatever the fuck the monkey emoji is doing that's not sexy it's creepy and gross and it makes me feel weird um look i can get really really heated about this i'm gonna move on before i uh talk for 20 minutes uh so i do have a question for you guys and this is a question that me and my friends have been talking about for a really long time so why the fuck do you guys do that thing where you'll be out at a party or a bar wherever and you'll see them this is a This is a guy you've been, like, kind of flirting with or whatever. And they will not say a word to you.

They will not say hello to you. They will not make eye contact with you. But then the second you leave wherever you are, you'll get a text that's like, oh, just you tonight? What the fuck is that? What possible purpose could that serve? I don't understand, and all it does is make me want to actually choke them and not in, like, a fun, sexy way and, like, a they-might-actually-die kind of way.

So let me know what you think. Thanks for being on the show, and I'll talk to you guys later. What kind of move is that? It's a fucking great move is what it is. It's an A-plus move. I mean, that is—you know why that's a great move? Because of that phone call right there. You don't know what's going on.

You don't know. You're on your toes. Your head's on a swivel. You're fucking confused. Wait, before we get to that, though, I want to do her response to the monkey. It's obviously a different take than we had. Not a different take than we had on, but a different view, different look on it. I agree with her totally.

If you're going to say some shit, some sexy stuff, or you want to do this or do that, own it and go for it. Don't be like, hee hee hee hee. We were talking about it as a response. And this isn't really a response. This is kind of an inclusion to sexy or some kind of stuff. I can understand people who want to dirty

talk or say some shit. And I also don't want to... I'm toeing the line here. And if you think you might totally turn somebody off, you want to soften it a little bit. But I also understand her being like, well, just fucking own it. See, I don't I would only do that, like end it with a ha ha. If I started it and I throw an L.O.L. in there, that's another one. It's like, but when I'm I mean, I won't throw that out once we're in the mix.

Yeah. I mean, once once you're that would be like you know laughing in bed which i do you do do that a lot john i do do that a lot especially with me but i i i think that there's a time and a place and if you're really in the in the mix like you said you want to be like confident and own it and be like all about it not like cover my eyes like a monkey yeah that's yeah that is coming from that yeah come on yeah i mean that's i i don't i don't use emojis in sexting i'm not i'm not too young enough for that i don't understand i don't speak the language really i know you only speak the language of love john i know three emojis i know this which i just said when i went i mean like okay i'm doing the hawaiian

thing yeah like the surf's up cowabunga um And then I know the like nervous face. Like the cheese face. Like the teeth are out. Come on, man. And then I guess those are the only two I really use. I mean, I there's a black teenager inside me somewhere. So I love the crying face emoji straight from black Twitter. But as far as the oh, did I see you you out move as soon as we heard this voicemail

john was like oh yeah yep yep i mean that's my move i thought i invented that move i thought i was the king of that move i'm glad to see other using others using it and prospering but it's i mean it's that that move that hits at a Hall of Fame pace. That move. That is like, you know, the whole game is like playing hard to get. And that's it right there. That's the most basic form of it where it's like, you know, I know that you're here. You know that I know that you're here. I'm not going to come over to you.

I'm doing my own thing. But, oh, shit, she left. I still want to keep it on the line. I'm doing my own thing. But, oh, shit, she left. I still want to keep it on the line. I'm still interested in her. Did I see you out there? Yo, I'll be the one who leaves. I'll leave. Just to be able to send that text?

Yeah, I'll leave. I'll go get a pizza and hang out for a half hour and then just say, hey, did I see you tonight? Now, when she says she wants to literally strangle the life out of you, what do you say to that? I say it evokes emotion, and that's the goal. It evokes emotion. If I did something that bored you, you wouldn't be into it. It's straight out of – If I came over and we had this weird kind of – because I only do it when I'm in the pursuit.

It would have to be under like three times hanging out with somebody. No, if you do that when you're like together with someone,, they're going to be like, what the fuck are you? Come over here and talk to me. I'll probably do that too. You're going to break up. When you're chasing and courting and wooing, that's the perfect way to keep somebody interested and keep them on the line and make them want you

and not have to go, you know, not have to show your hand yet. We don't know each other well enough to go over. I don't want to go over into your group of friends who I don't know. And, like, it depends on what, you know, then you're, like, kind of in for the night. You know what I mean? It's like, am I going to talk to you all night long? And we don't know each other well enough to talk.

To do that. All night long. And we don't know each other well enough. First of all, I've made this very clear. I can't talk in a bar. In a bar, I'm just. I can't hear you. What? I'm just like, can't hear you. What?

I'm just like, I'll lean in. You know what the problem is with fucking Ellie? She's four feet tall. So these guys are like, I'm not going to be able to talk to her because I'm going to be leaning over the whole time trying to get my ear in her mouth. I'll talk to you when it's quiet, girl. Yeah. I'll go get pizza, hang out, let you have a few more drinks, and then say, hey, who sent you? Now, there's also the possibility, like, I was notorious for when we were having barstool parties back in the day. I would just invite every girl I've ever talked to to a barstool party.

And they would all show up, and I'd be like, oh, fuck, what do I do here? So then it would be like, all right, that one, like, clearly, like, she left because we weren't hanging out. But it's like, hey, did I see you? Did you come to the party? Did you have a good time? So it could be that, you know, so much is juggling. That's a wild look in and of itself. I never invite multiple girls anywhere.

Smart man. I remember there were other people. That was also when I was in, like, promo mode, too, though. And I was just like, I need as many people to come, as many girls as I can get. Like, come to this party. It's going to be fun. And I was like, yikes. They all said yes.

See, there are other people that we work with who did the same thing. And these people thrive in that kind of situation. If we're picking up what I'm putting down. They thrive in stirring the pot. I don't. I don't like that. I don't like the awkwardness. No, it's super nerve wracking.

And you're going to upset somebody. So it would be, like, up to the 11th hour. I'd try and figure out who's got no plans the most. And then I'd say, yo, why don't you come to this? And even then, sometimes they wouldn't come. So I'd be the one person there without a girl, which also works out sometimes. That's when you have the most fun. Yeah, it's not worth risking that by inviting all the sand to the beach.

But that's a possibility where you're juggling and you just need to send that text or whatever. But as far as like if you're in the courting situation, Ellie and all the other girls out there, it's the easiest like playing hard to get, play it, like let the game come to you, laid back. See, I don't think I play game though. Yeah but but i mean you you don't but you are like you're not doing it on purpose but you are exactly because you're letting the game come to you you're not going to be overly engaged you're not going to overly commit to something but you are interested and it is something like you said you do it like early on you do it maybe like once or twice you keep doing that you're just a dick and she's gonna lose interest so it's a fine line. But let me ask you this.

Give a little advice for the girls. What would you say to like respond to that? Like, like, like, like, let's say what, what, what's a response that's going to get you to stop doing that, John? Marry me, probably. I don't know. Yes, you did no i mean no i mean that's probably just the best way to stop is to actually marry me that's that's probably it i i i don't know i guess you could say like you know you did or something like that and call you out yeah you'd say call me out on my bullshit you did yeah and i'd say hi you're right i saw you with a group

people and i was hungry. You'd explain yourself. Sorry, I went to get a pizza and hide out for 35 minutes while you did it. Yeah, it's, you know, girls, you gotta have your own little, like, powwow, your own little meeting right now to figure out what you should be saying. Are they saying, is she saying, I saw you out, did I see

you out tonight or did I see you out last night? Like, when's the text being sent? Tonight. It's like when you're walking home. So, I mean, like, that's just the booty call. Yeah. So, I mean, like, I's the text being sent? It's like when you're walking home. That's just the booty call. I think the girl just has to decide. If you respond to the 4am closing... If that's the time in the situation, then yes.

It's like, you up, what are you doing, come by, sort of thing. But if it's like, you just walked out the door, you're going somewhere else, and the night's still going and you get that text, it's like you just walked out the door you're going somewhere else and the night's kind of still going and you get that text it's more like you know hey i do still like you i'm still interested in you didn't want to like basically commit to it that's all you're right immediately back and be like no i'm right outside yeah i'm coming back in i was just uh outside with my friends making a phone call. I will find you.

Shit. No, I usually don't send it right away. For me, it usually is the later. Later. And it's almost a more polite booty call. I saw you at the same place. What did you think of it? Come over and discuss. It's an inquiry.

It's not a, yo, come over. Tell me your feelings. I was actually asking your feelings about the place we were at. Hey, I'm being emotional. Is that in touch? Then, then if you,

I don't know what I'd say. See, I, again, I don't, I don't think I have, I don't think I do games. I,

I, I'm never like working something out. You know what I mean? I'm never thinking steps ahead. And that's, that's a life. This is a one step thing for John. So it's like,

did I see you out? And then she says something like, yeah, you like, you know, I did. And you never thinking steps ahead. And that's a life rule. This is a one-step thing for John. So it's like, did I see you out? And then she says something like, yeah, you know I did. And you'd be like, okay. I got nothing. It's not like I have like, oh, plan B. Or like, if she says this, then I say that. And if she says this, then I say this. It's just like, oh, okay.

Like, want to fuck? So I'll be like, do you want to get one more drink? Do you want to get a nightcap? Or I'll say, let's get a drink tomorrow or something like that. Yeah, I mean, I think if you're interested in hanging out with her that night, you probably approach the night a little differently. I think that's, you know, the best case scenario.

What if a girl said that? What if a girl was forward enough and was like, yeah, you did actually. I was hoping we were going to catch up. Do you want to get a drink tomorrow? Yeah, get a drink tomorrow. But what if she's not that cute?

What if she's not that cute? Yeah, what if she doesn't like you? What if she's not that cute? What if you don't like her that much? And then she's like, do you want to hang out? No, no. Then I wouldn't have texted her. Right. So basically that's the answer. So girls, if he's sending that text, he's interested enough in you.

And if you got the balls to do it and you want to hang out with him, maybe that's your chance to slide in there with your own ass. Yeah, I definitely wouldn't. I don't really have. It's 2018. It's Bumble shit. You make the move. want to hang out with him maybe that's your chance to slide in there with uh yeah i definitely i i don't really have any teens bumbles it's bumble shit like you make the move i mean earlier in the in the message she was talking about confidence right but i think that you could interpret this as just not being confident enough to come up and talk to you we've already said there's other motivations to it but i think oh i mean i actually wasn't thinking of it like there might just be a

guy who is like i'm too nervous to come up to you. I'm also that. There's definitely a scenario where you're like, oh, guys, she's over there. She's over there. And your buddy's like, go talk to her. Go talk to her. You're like, I got to have a couple more drinks.

I'm not ready yet. I'm not ready yet. I'm not ready yet. Oh, she's gone. And then it's like, oh, fuck. I missed my chance. Let me send her a text. But I definitely think more often than not,

if you already have her number and you already can text her and you're already confident enough to just send that type of text, it's probably more of a hard to get, flirty, playing games sort of thing. Yeah. I mean, yeah, you're right. There are definitely both situations, but it's largely.

Largely the playing games. Even though you're not saying, like, I'm playing a game right now. I'm playing a game. And then guess what? Guess who's the topic of brunch tomorrow? This guy. This guy's the top of your brunch.

What does that mean? Why do you send that? That's all you gotta do. You gotta stay on the brain. And you know what? You just send back the monkey with the eyes covered. Just totally fuck their brains. And they don't know what's going on.

What would be the equivalent of a girl? I guess the same thing. Girls are the same kind of thing. I've had it happen to me, too. Did I see you there? Yeah. And you know I was there. But the thing is that it's still, to this day, it's still expected that the guy's going to go talk to the girl.

That's still the main type of thing. You're at the party. You're at the bar. It ain't really the girl's job to go over and talk to you. No, but. That's still a gender role that's firmly established, man. Get over that. Although, as I sit here and say, get over that,

if you ever talk to me, I'm in panic. John's gonna run and get a supply of pizza. I was gonna say, I'm gonna run out the door and text you in a half hour, I'll see you tonight. Yeah, I came over and said hi, and you ran away. Bottom line is, we're all, we line is, nobody knows what they're doing. Everybody's a little bit nervous. Everybody's insecure.

And we're all just trying to find our way throughout that and have a little bit of sex. That's really what life's all about. So I don't think we really gave her an answer there, other than like, yeah, no, we're basically doing it to fuck with you a little bit. Yeah, no, we gave her an answer. The answer is exactly what we're basically doing it to fuck with you a little bit yeah no we gave her an answer it's like it's like the answer is exactly what it's like good-hearted good-hearted fucking with you yeah it's a thing that that makes you so mad you call into radio shows yeah which means you are thinking about me it's the adult version of like pulling hair on the playground yes and all those little games exactly all those little things that are and guess what those were times I know that's the thing

Like these are all like Pick up artist type of things But like those fucking work If you do it to an extent Where it's like sleazy And creepy Then yeah you suck But there are little dynamics

Between guys and girls That are real And have been real Since the god damn Caveman times And are gonna be real forever And they evolve Into like As technology changes And as like culture changes these things change but the idea

is basically always the same of like a little bit playing hard to get being playful you know knocking up knocking people both sides down a few pegs and then kind of building them back up and the whole courting process more yeah and then eventually knock each other down. Just the idea. And you're dragging it out and you're having a horrible time. The idea of courtship and dating and all relationships is really fucked up. It's so fucked up, man. It's twisted shit. Yeah, dude. It's psychological warfare.

Yep. And it's kind of, again, I just want to piss you off so you think about me and talk about me with your friends. But then I want to make you really like me. I mean, it's kind of dentist system-esque. Yeah, it is. Where the dentist system is like, it's a fine dance. Break them down to build them back up the way you want.

And it happens, I think it happens to us more. It happens to men more that they get broken down. Oh, I think you're going to upset the girls with that one. I think it 100% happens to us more. It happens to men more that they get broken down. Oh, I think you're going to upset the girls with that one. I think it 100% happens to men more. You think that girls play more games with guys? Yes. I don't think that's correct. You don't think so?

I think guys play way more games with girls. Oh, man. No, let me say that. I think girls. Again, I'm not speaking for everybody. I'm speaking in my own personal life. I think girls are actually playing more manip'm speaking in my own personal life. I think girls are actually playing more manipulative games where they're doing it like intently.

I think guys are more prone to be like, oh, I don't give a fuck. And it's like I hung out with you last night, but tonight I don't want to. And like it's not like a and then I'm going to on Friday, then I'm really going to fuck with a brain. It's just like I don't care anymore. Yeah. And we're like aloof and we're dumb and we're stupid. And girls are like, wait, what? You're sending me mixed signals.

It's not like we're not sending the mixed signals on purpose. We're sending it because our our moods change. We don't care. We're constantly PMSing. I just whichever way the wind blows is our emotions. I get that. Sometimes I'm tired of using them. I wasn't using you talking about.

Right. We're just we're talking. And then I didn't feel like talking right. Right. They will be like, I'm going to say this, then say that. And then I'm going to go here. But then next about. Right. We're just talking. And then I didn't feel like talking right now. They will be like, I'm going to say this, then say that. And then I'm going to go here. But then next week, I'm going to do this, that. Whereas we, our shit might change, but it's not as deliberate.

Right. So do girls play more games? Yes. Do guys fuck with girls, maybe sometimes unintentionally or not as deliberately more than that? I think so. Okay. I can live with that. It's so okay i can live with that fair i can live with that and that's why it's just a fucked up dance that where nobody but i think but i think guys change more in relationships so i definitely therefore i think

that they're that means like they're broken down and built up more oh like that i think that's a guy is the one who i think i think guys or again i'm speaking by say guys i'm speaking just for myself i think i change more than when you when you finally like do get in a relationship and settle down with someone i think guys are more prone to be like i'm going to do what i need to do to make this person happy yeah they'll change everything they do to make them happy whereas girls are pretty much like i'm gonna keep doing what i do and i think that all stems from the power of the pussy i think deep down they're like this is what i'm giving you like i give you this and you give me and you change your entire existence the last time i had a girlfriend i it was i didn't hang out i don't hang out my friends very often anyway

but every friday and saturday night multiple times per the week we were going out either together or with our friends. I was living there. You basically, again, generalizing or whatever, but speaking for ourselves, you become their life and do things their way and hope that they're happy. Yeah. Watch their Netflix shows. Yeah, whatever you want to put on. Okay.

Right. Yeah, it's way more a guy doing that than a girl being like, can you imagine a girl being like, yeah, I don't know, put on whatever you want. I'm like, all right, well, we're watching like season three of Banshee, bro. No, that's not going to happen, dude. It's a very delicate dance, and nobody actually has any of the answers, Ellie. No. Girls. That's why this show will last forever.

Yeah. We will be taking these dumb voicemails forever. Girls, we want to hear from you. Respond. Are you confused like Ellie? Do you have your own stories of getting guys playing hard to get? Who plays more games? Guys?

Girls? The whole nine. Any question we pose here today, tweet at us at KSU Radio. Let us know your thoughts on the seductive art of dating and courtship. See you guys next week.