KFC Radio - DJ Premier, Marc Roberge, and Brady Watt on Musicians They'd Battle - Full Episode

Episode Date: August 1, 2024

Timecodes: 0:00 Start 01:50 Everyone's getting their d*** sucked (quick lil segment before interview) 17:42 DJ Premier, Marc Roberge, and Brady Watt Interview 17:58 How DJ Premier and Marc teamed up 25:47 Bass and Bars 34:02 Being in the studio with Biggie 41:42 Premier's best studio session 43:33 Premier's son's taste in music 53:27 The Salmon Boys 56:16 DJ Mustard and Not Like Us 01:00:57 What producer could beat Premier in a battle? 01:04:26 Marc is the reason for Feits' newfound acting talent 01:09:00 Premier's favorite producer ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ PRESENTED BY MANGO SHOTTA: Stay Spicy with Mango Shotta https://www.mangoshotta.com/ Omaha Steaks: Order today at https://OmahaSteaks.com and get an EXTRA $30 OFF with promo code KFC at checkout. Minimum purchase may applyYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/kfcr

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No way. I had to see. Are they, like, noticeably hairy? Yeah. Are they? It's not, like, the worst. Just stop looking. No, like, Are they like noticeably hairy? Yeah. Are they? It's not like the worst. Just stop looking. No, like they're not noticeably hairy.

But like if you look close. Just don't do that. Like literally you could. I would never in a million years. Really? That's why I don't get why girls always say that because I would never notice it. Welcome back to another edition of KFC Radio on the Barstool Sports Network. We have a fantastic interview coming up right now with Mark Roberge, DJ Premier, and Brady Watt

promoting their new song. OAR and DJ Premier is called Gonna Be Me. It's fantastic. I listen to it nonstop. If you want to listen to that interview, just skip ahead like 15 minutes. Until then, every motherfucker in here is getting their dick sucked. stop if you want to listen to that interview just skip ahead like 15 minutes until then every motherfucker in here is getting their dick sucked

kevin's not here right now he's gonna get it too paths you're gonna be quick because you always get your dick sucked but we had a sketch yesterday watching you and owen fucking operate was unbelievable you it sucks to be you you have been you're officially a victim of your own success it is so the the banana video is out um the banana video is out kevin and i in in the pre before we're like i don't know this idea sounds insane but let's just we'll do it and as long as jackie has to film herself then that's good it exceeded my wildest expectations now i you've been working here for like four years. I think this is probably the first video you guys ever watched.

Like, I mean, you do the podcast. I obviously don't watch the podcast. This is like the first video. Like, what have you ever edited that I would have seen that I'm not in? Yeah. Nothing. Yeah. So this is my first time.

You've obviously always been funny, so we liked you working here. It's awesome. Thank you. The editing was fantastic i texted you like the cuts in and out the timing was so funny i know when you when you complimented my editing i was like this is a new feeling yeah i was like i don't know i've never seen you edit before it's fucking good you should check out your podcast the it was it was like obviously you're so funny and the like i don't know like it's always hard to get you because like you're so funny naturally and it's like well i don't know it's it's kind of like a fear like if she if we force her to

be funny does it stop being funny so well we're going to talk about this more when Kevin comes back. That's for sure. But I know how YouTube algorithms work and all that shit. So go watch the fucking video now. Thank you. But I haven't even bothered Kevin with this because he's on vacation. I have an idea. I would like everyone's input on it.

A new show, I guess. A new show, I guess. A new segment, I guess, called Jack Attack. Jack Attack. Whenever you have a Jack Attack, that's just some idea. You call me that day and you're like, guys, I had a Jack Attack. How long from conception of this idea to put it out? Was it like a month? I mean, I dragged my heels on this. But how long was it? Was this idea to put it out was it like i mean i took i like dragged my heels on this but how long was it a month a month okay so i think that's perfect

okay we can stick with a month you come in you announce guys i had a jack attack and everyone knows from that day we got one month two weeks to make it work two weeks to make the edit you have to film yourself the whole time. I volunteer myself. I volunteer Kevin to an extent. I don't volunteer Paz because we can't have him getting hurt. I volunteer every woman in this office. Come on, they don't have control of their bodies.

I volunteer pretty much everybody, no matter how many people it takes, whatever. If you have an idea that you think is funny, we get it done. But you have to film yourself getting it done, and that has to go out too, because that's going to be the better video this is something that like i'll i do want to like just because it was

fun like i'll i'm gonna stick with it i'm gonna like try i don't i have like a few other ideas but like no i don't know again like none of them were good none of that we'll see but i really appreciate that i'm obviously gonna be awkward about it yeah but i'll i'll get it done watching uh this process was incredibly fun jackie showed me like a new edit probably every day the first time i watched it through i was like this one might need a lot of fixing and then four or five days later, I mean, it was incredible. And also, shout out Pat's help with that. It was all Jackie.

No, it was not. And then I watched the behind the scenes. And I was like, this is some of the best content Barstool has put out. The behind the scenes is fucking incredible. It perfectly captures you, which is a good. Sometimes people are funny in person. They don't translate the camera. Sometimes the edit,

whatever. I don't know. It was perfectly you in the sense that you did a great job in editing and keeping your essence in it. It's chaos, but it's curiosity. Being young and pretty, I'm sure you get dumb a lot.

It's definitively not dumb. It's curiosity and mania. It's mad scientist-like, where it's like you have this idea. You've got to get it out. People are just born. Oppenheimer was just born with this ability to just say, that's what you have. It's a little bit different.

If you were to count the times I said bananas, it would have been also throughout the whole video though the one thing that somebody pointed out that like now i can't it's i didn't i didn't ever say 1200 i just said 1200 it never occurred to me watching a bunch of times i was like she's like no 1,200 1,200 what the fuck does that mean it's never really like uh it was late in life that i learned that like 1,200 and 1,200 were the same things 1,200 such an adult thing to say yeah my parents used to say that and they're like 1,200 is fucking 1,200 i think i was maybe 14 when i learned i was like oh

no the most adult thing you could say is like quarter to 12. Just say 11. Quarter to 12, yeah, yeah, yeah. Say 11.45. Yeah. Yeah. There's probably more. I think we got off the rails a little bit here.

I think we got off the rails a little bit here. Point is that like I don't, that's probably going to ruin the video for you, but like I, I forgot where I was going it's fucking it's funny it's fantastic it's tremendous now time for the negatives of it um there was only one it was in the um what you would call it fucking main no it was in the the uh promo clip the trailer yes you say there's only one person i know is crazy enough to get into bananas john feidelberg what's this wacky guy gonna do it sounded it felt like an mtv like like uh you know what it was is i i watched like mr beast videos before because i was like it's the most thing and like i think it got ingrained in me

and then i went and like it was very much like a clickbait like who's the only person crazy to step in bananas that's so fair I think I had a line before then that was like also like like yeah like am I one thing bananas that's so true um yeah yeah that but it

introed it well it did intro you're the only one crazy the main one was also so like you're not gonna ever watch it but like you're so funny in it really i'll so i'll be honest i walked away from that day going i don't know how that went i don't know if that was funny i don't know but i knew we had the best like all that mattered was we had the behind the scenes video but i was like i don't know that could have been we had the best like though all that matter was we had the beside the scenes video But I was like, I could have been funny. I could have been I chopped down like 30 minutes into like 10 minutes and

I mean the funniest parts. It's mostly just like a compilation of you like splashing around and laughing Which is so funny laughing in it. It's just like you're laughed It doesn't even have to be like you in a pool the original edit that you gave now that you mentioned i'm so much splashing yeah had to go through and be like this is like kinky the first like five minutes i'm laughing constantly and then jackie's like it's hard to like watch something somebody else's work when they're right next to you yeah for sure and then it went from laughing to just like this like half smile for about five minutes honestly i expected the whole video to be that it was so good the like i that's kind of how i felt in the tub i mean we're doing

anything i don't really i didn't really like realize because I was so desensitized to it but like first of all it was a big ask for me to ask you to get in this tub of bananas it's like that's it really isn't a lot of people are wacky enough to step in bananas what's this crazy guy gonna do next

yeah but like also like i if you haven't i don't know always been sexually harassed your whole life you'll probably strike harder but like it was looking back and i was like oh did i just like was that an hr violation i feel like i was sexually harassing everybody's like everybody look at me get this i feel like i feel like i was sexually harassing everybody's like everybody look at me getting this i feel like during the process i was sexually harassing all the okay like in the explanation i feel like i was sexually harassing everyone because i'd be like i would be like trying to like figure out how many bananas to fit so i'd be like there was multiple times i said to people i just didn't like i wasn't

thinking i was like wait i need something that's like about eight inches longer what's like banana shape that i could use right now and then it's banana maybe that guy anyways um yeah okay that is oh another uh negative this one's not about the uh the behind the scenes i just happened to be looking at the youtube page because i was getting the link because that's another thing you didn't do because you don't promote anything and all that good stuff like like the one little tip that i've i don't even do but i've seen people do and i think it's great when you make a video just send it to everyone who's in it and then oh smart and then it's just like hey guys thanks

for the help here's the video and then people just because most people are good people but since I had to go myself and do the arduous task of finding the YouTube link. I also saw our last episode. Yeah. I know that you're not in charge of that. Like, we break down the summer games. Is that what we did? No, I am in charge of the summer games. Is that what the podcast was?

We broke down the summer games. Hey, guys, couple experts here talking the summer games. The wacky guy. I didn't know what else to title it. What would you name it? I don't know. That's a world I don't understand. It's all about SEO. It's SEO.

Which I saw a podcast yesterday titled Olympics, Olympics, Olympics. I was like, how are you guys able to title that? You're not allowed to say the O word. Yeah. Olympics. Olympics. Not allowed to say. I don't know if you're allowed to say it you're just not allowed to write it we can say it we just can't i think i'm gonna keep saying olympics when i want to i'm gonna write olympics because that's what's happening right now now that you know where the youtube is fucking olympics we're we'll talk about the olympics very briefly we talked about the olympics for about the opening seven minutes

of the show okay but we talked about the olympics more than anything else actually we talked about like smells for probably all right um oh last blow job we'll last two blow jobs steve you get a blow job you're great all the time you're fantastic love the last blog what's the best ending of life steve's the greatest kevin's not here kevin's getting a blow job real quick he's so good talking music it's crazy this interview you're about to listen to is uh again mark brady dj premiere me kevin it is mostly kevin and dj premiere being like peers discussing music it's all it's like it's fun to be like sit there and like watch kevin dazzle i feel like it happens every time we have either a producer or a rapper on they're always like so surprised by his wealth of knowledge and insight

into rap um it's really good it's very as someone who's obviously like not a rap guy it was incredibly interesting so i hope you enjoy the interview that's good go watch the banana video or not the banana behind the scenes of the video or watch both the banana video, or watch both. I don't care. Thank you. That was so nice. I don't think I've ever had an episode with you guys where I've been like, call for that, too. Jackie's legs are so hairy, though.

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What a combo we got on the couch here. We got Mark Roberge, Brady Watt, and DJ Premier, which feels like a fever dream. Like something, I don't even know how this came to be but for someone my age a white dude who grew up at my time period who loves rap i don't know how this fucking song came together but it's like a dream come true yes so please give me the backstory on that because it is it's a wonder man and it's a great track i was at a rangers game withC of Run DMC. Okay. He had been telling me, I got to shout out Heather B., which I'm sure you're familiar with her as well. But even before DMC, Heather B. and her father, God bless him, he passed away.

But he used to always be like, you got to come to a hockey game to really enjoy it. Don't worry about watching on TV. Come to a game. Me and DMC worked on a master square garden anthem and that led to the people that are affiliated with the rangers as well to invite me to a game and dmc's loves hockey really yeah he and him and his son and they're really into it so he's like you gotta come see it i I came with him. I started doing the, oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm like, what's that song? That's how much I got into it. Pretty sure. I went to another game with him, and that's when I met Mark. They have the sweets, and during halftime, everybody goes, and they grab the food. And you spotted me, right? Yeah, I saw him from a mile away. Yeah.

Had you guys known each other at all? Yeah. I saw him from a mile away. Yeah. And I'm like. Had you guys known each other at all? No. You were just a fan. I'd known DMC through working in the city and doing fun because he's such an amazing charitable dude, right? So like we're always not running into each other. Yeah.

And my wife and I are standing there and I give her an elbow and I look. And she knows immediately. She's a huge hip hop head. She's worked at labels. And she's like, say something. And my old me would never, you know, say a word. I would leave immediately. Oh, my God.

So I said, not today, motherfucker. I said to him, I go, you know, I'm Mark. I'm in a band called OER. And when we came out and played The Garden the first time, we walked out to work by Gangsta. Oh, shit. Guru, rest in peace. What do you mean?

And just like basically, I think I caught him off guard. You didn't expect him to know that, did you? Not at all. Now, wait, did you know OAR? Not yet. No, not yet. And you probably checked in with DMC, like, who's this guy? Yep.

And then on top of that, I do like to do my homework. And I grew up on so many genres of music. with DMC like who's this guy yep and then on top of that I do like to do my homework and and I'm I grew up on so many genres of music you know obviously I'm older so uh I wasn't born into rap music it didn't exist yet and so I mean you helped make it so you've also probably uh listened to more songs than like anybody alive which just like the style of beats that you make right i mean how many records have you we was raised on so much and i have older sisters so my older sister was into you know the the beatles and and uh you know the bay city rollers you know you know records like that carly simon and the eagles and acdc so i got that chunk and then my

other sister was into the more funk stuff and then my mother was an art teacher so she was into what she would pretty much all of us are raised on around our parents and and in that generation we liked our parents music we weren't like oh that's old folk stuff we had nothing else and then as hip-hop started to come out obviously that's when the rebellion and that ain't music that's noise right right right you know it took some convincing but obviously later on it caught on and with and and i'm from a new the era of new wave music being big and mtv just coming out where you really saw videos and all the the artistry and stuff and i just took to all of that so uh to blend in with where

this came to now it just automatically was easy to fit in no matter how it was going to be developed to make a song. And did I hear you? I think you told me this correctly, that this was the first time you ever singing on a song. Your vocals. We got you recording singing in the studio. I forgot about that. I think when y'all film me, I'm going, I sound horrible. You got that deep voice, man.

That's great. Because as a producer, I can tell you how to sing it and hit that note and go, ah, right there. But for me to sing it, I never liked my voice. I thought it was good. It was a moment. We filmed the hell out of it. Can we delete that footage? No, we got to blast that footage? No, no, no.

We got to blast that out. No, I told him. I told him, no matter what, we will never put anything out without you first. Come on. Primo, give the world. Let the world see Primo in front of a mic on the track. Come on. Who has the footage?

Who has it on the drive? But he's in there. He's in the song. So it was like, we were at that game. We talked about, oh, one day, right? And then years later, we're at Howard Stern's show the song. We were at that game. We talked about one day. Then years later, we're at Howard Stern's show. It took a while for this to come together. Years prior.

We get to the Howard Stern show. We're doing some stuff. Ian manages Primo. He's there. He's saying, let's do something together. He says, let's do Brady Watt. I'm like, I know Brady Watt. Basin bars.

I know that series. I know what he's doing. I've seen him. Let I'm like, I know Brady Watt. Bass and bars. I know that series. I know what he's doing. I've seen him. Let's do it. Such a cool combo. He pulls up FaceTime. He's on FaceTime. We remember each other. It's like, okay, let's meet in Queens.

We go to Queens to his studio. And we write a song in one day. So we sit down and start writing this song about friendship. About being in a band. Being a musician on the road. Like, real deal shit, like, you know, what it takes to actually make it work is like a lot of understanding. And I think you originally weren't even going to be on it.

Yeah, we were just saying one day we'll do something later, you know, so and I hear them in the live room, just kind of getting the vibe and he's singing lyrics, he's playing the guitar. So I start going, you know, in the hallway. So I was like, maybe I could just do a little programming of that pattern. Sure. And then I say, hey, you want to see if y'all could add it to this? And then that's what happened to the buildup,

and all of a sudden I was involved. It was like a Bronx tale. I was like, now you just can't leave. That's crazy to just have, like, a brain work that way, where you just hear something, and you're like, I know the beat for this. Yeah. That's obviously something I'll never understand. Even when I talk to some of my friends I grew up with, they're like, so how do you write a song? I'm like, it's so many different ways.

You can either make the track first or have no track and the blank canvas is the base it's the best way to have nothing and it just turns and yeah that's totally what that would happen i heard you once describe it as like not producing a beat but but tailoring a beat tailoring yeah like for every individual person but that that's interesting though because i also feel like you have such a distinct sound that like I everybody always knows a primo beat when they hear it

but within that sound you're tailoring it to that person each and every time yep it has to feel like they go together for that particular artist

everybody's voice the way they look yeah all that goes into it yeah wow if you got green shoes I'm gonna make a green shoes beat

I was gonna say so you're like undressing everyone as soon as you see them? Yep. What was the first thought? You are not dressed yet. You saw Mark. You're like, what kind of beat?

He comes up to the Rangers game. He's like, yo, huge gang star fan. What's the beat? Well, the fact that we met during halftime, I mean, maybe I was eating a KFC, who knows? So wait, what did you think of hockey, by the way? So you're all in on the Rangers now? Are you a Rangers fan now? Yeah.

Like I said, it did take me into a different level because I'm more of a baseball, basketball, football guy. What are your teams? Everything's Houston. Houston, right, right, right. Yeah, born and raised. It's so fun. I mean, i think of you as like new york but it's all it's a houston yeah like i support the yankees out of baseball being in it being i everybody says get out get out i thought i was a fan i can't hey well look the mess of banging on them right yeah man that's my reason right now let's see what happens tonight you should put your hat on. My kids, every Father's Day, my kids get me – they're young,

and they get me a new hat, and it's like size 8, and it's like sitting like this on me. The 90s look. Yeah, exactly. Beats and bass is – was that your idea? Bass and bars. Yeah, bass and bars, sorry. Yeah, so Bass and bars. Yeah, bass and bars, sorry. Yeah, so bass and bars. So first off, I've been in Preem's band for, I think, probably 10, 11, 12 years now.

That's how I worked my way into the scenario. I was doing my thing as a freelance bass player and producer in New York City. I moved to New York in 2008 from New Hampshire to just make the music thing happen. Whereabouts in New Hampshire? What's that? Whereabouts in Newhire new hampshire yeah we i woke up on the on the tour bus this morning in new jersey we were in new hampshire last night okay we just be rocked up yeah that's what you guys do oar will just kidnap people and take them on the road that's where we're at and and originally i was doing one song on the tour just going out doing gonna be me and then night it turned into two three four i think i'm doing five now i'm doing crazy game of poker so hell yeah let's shred the

bass you know me and benji are going at it it's just it's just a phenomenal dream come true and some of the biggest shows i've ever done me and preem have rocked some really big shows too i'm sure over the years we've toured the world together preem's one of my best friends i lived with him for two years so what was that this is all outside of music that was during covid too that was a movie he's the best one fight dude he's one of my best friends in life man yeah we were good i think i left the shit in the toilet one time. He still brings that up. I would too, man. What do you mean you just didn't flush it?

The flusher was broken. You made it sound like you just got up and left. Oh, hell no. I'm very mechanical and handy and stuff, so I showed him, like, if it ever acts up, you know, just like you fix it, he must have forgot. I came home. I was out of town and

as soon as i walked in and i'm just like what is that smell and i'm like and and i have a very good sense of smell so i followed the smell and as i went down to the basement and i looked i said yo and i called him like what the fuck and he's like, the toilet wasn't working, but it had probably been there like five, six, seven days. Oh, man. You made a fucking stew, dude. You dirted them all. Oh, my God. It was so crazy.

It didn't melt. It was still solid. Still solid, baby. Still solid after five days. Bro, I would burn the house down. That's like fucking. Yo, in my defense, I got no sense of smell. Apparently.

I've never had a sense of smell. That's not a defense. I can't smell nothing. Nah, but I mean, dude, you have no sense of time, maybe, or no sense of days, maybe. It doesn't really... So anyways, where was I?

So yeah, other than that, we were good, man. We lived together for two years. Because COVID, I got stuck in New York. I was out here. I'd started Basin Bars. I'd moved. First off, let me rewind it. I was living in Harlem for 10 years, doing my thing.

I'm a New Yorker at this point, man. You know what I mean? I've been here for a long time. Been through a lot of shit. Been a professional musician the whole time. I never had a job. Like the last time I had a job, I was bussing tables at Babo in downtown. I got fired for not memorizing the cheese menu.

It was the last job I ever had. That's a great way to just fuck it. Fuck the cheese menu. I'm out. I'm going back to the village. I'm hitting up the open jams, the open mics, hitting Craigslist, putting ads up on telephone poles. I've been freelancing forever, man.

And built that up, me and Primo met. We had the band tour all over the world. So wait, what year did you guys meet? Wow, that had to be 2012, 2011 to 2012, because my son was almost one. So, yeah, a band he used to be in with the LL Cool J sign years ago. It never materialized, so they just went their separate ways. The guitar player in that band was helping me run sessions, and one day he brought him in to play bass on a session.

So when he walked in, I'm a bass player player so when i saw his bass i'm like yo what kind of bass is that and that turned into you know who do you like and we like the same bass players and that started he said he was like if you ever need me for anything here's my number smart man i would do that too by the way if you ever need me i can't play bass i can't make beats i can't sing but if you need anything i you. I didn't think we would work though because Preem doesn't need anyone. That's what people, there's a lot of differences in producers.

Preem puts a hoodie on. Does it all. MPC, he does the bass. He does everything. So I was just, he's my favorite producer since I was a kid.

So I just wanted to meet him. How old are you? I didn't think we'd ever work. I'm 38. Yeah, I mean, I'm 39. It's like, I mean, I'm 39. It's like, I mean...

And I'm 58. I thought you were... I literally thought you were 27. You've been like this the whole time? I've been treating you like a kid, bro. You're like, come live here since 20... No, we're just nice guys. He doesn't know how many days.

You don't know how many years. I woke up in New Jersey this morning at 11.20. I had no idea what was going on. Yeah, I mean, for someone our age to link up with Prevo is ridiculous. As a musician. It's the greatest thing that can happen to you. You can't even put a – it's ridiculous. Yeah, like never in a million years are you thinking that's happening.

And he knew all my stuff, like really knew it. Yeah. The bass and bars thing is killing because you've got to see it. Taking an artist like Warren G, bass guitar, Warren G. I didn't realize that was you when the same guy from the song. Right, yeah. That's such a great series. Yeah, when I met him, I'm like, I know you.

Then you dig deeper into it, and there's like 60 or something episodes at this point. 60 episodes. Yeah, so it's like, it's crazy. That's a dream, too. Who's your top? Just such an honor. Everyone is an honor to do it, man. I meet these people, and we create together.

I learn from each one. I prepare a lot going into it. I deep dive. Lead up to Warren G., I was just deep diving the G-Funk and the old school gangster West Coast stuff. Especially for me. I mean, the G-Funk, like playing, regulating, you know. The bass is kind of sick. It's an honor to do it.

You did that on your own or you guys started that together? My manager, Ian Schwartzman, gave me the idea. Smart. And he's helped out a lot. He manages me and Primo. We're all a team and uh you know i had to rolodex after playing with so many rappers for all these years that's kind of where i found my niche i'm on a ton of records sure yeah i could i could list them off and yeah so

at the beginning i just started hitting people that i know and then primo made some big calls he called uh evidence and he called mc8 and we're like let's just try this out bass and vocals so we showed up and it was just magic man i was an alchemist studio doing the first episode um we did 10 000 hours and then i shot mc8 we dropped we dropped those and they just went crazy man because i've been releasing music solo for so long yeah and when you put something out that is that is right it just goes crazy it's so obvious you're like oh dude like i've never had this type of reaction so then we went hard he hit up uh i hit up taluk quali i've been in his band forever very cool i had the heat it hit up um he hit up uh

exhibit you know and that just hit up literally anyone you want yeah right well preem calls any of these rappers and they're like oh shit it's preem what does that mean and then he's like yo i need you to do something for me and they're like okay yeah yeah so that's why bass and bars worked bro it was a team effort one of the best ones getting chuck d to do fight the power because i was shooting a video with public enemy and then uh i'm he comes to shoot the video in my studio in our live room and he's like man i'm a little hungry i said we have a there's a restaurant upstairs that we always always eat at and he and i was like hey uh i wanted to show you this i showed him the basin bars episode and he was like hey let me finish eating and i'll shoot one he shot it the

same day wow yeah that's what you got to do right like make it happen right then and there we had the set set up just in case you want to do it it was funny because he finished eating put down his silver he's like all right i'm ready i was like okay i was eating too i'm like just do it i was listening to another podcast you were on you were talking about uh you were in the studio with biggie and just like eating and drinking shooting dice playing for like an hour or like eight hours and then he was like, I'm ready. Let's go. And I'm like, are we doing a record or are we going to come back tomorrow? He's like, oh, I'm ready now.

Are studio sessions often like that? I guess it depends on who the person is or was. Like with Biggie, I didn't know if he wrote or not. He's just messing around drawing little figures and stick men. So you're thinking he might not even be working right now. Yeah, and that's when Bacardi Limon came out.

Yes, that's why I brought it up. I heard him say, he was like, this is when Bacardi Limon first dropped. So that was the new hip-hop drink. I can't even be in the same room as Bacardi Limon anymore. It's the first time I ever got drunk, and it was like all the rappers talking about it. It was very new And I drank I split a bottle with my buddy

It was It was the first time you ever drank You drank half a bottle of Bacardi I was I threw up in my buddy's mom's shoes And I was like I'm never touching that again But it's just hilarious to think about

Like you guys In the studio That was a new hip hop drink At that time in the 90s You know Then late on Hypnotic came out Whatever's new if

it's said in a rap song everybody everybody's drinking he said biggie was drawing like drawing sketches and stuff just a little stick bend and just a little you know just doodling around but no lyrics and i was just figuring we'll you know but we're used to let's come back tomorrow yeah and then by the time you know eight nine hours past i'm like you, let's come back tomorrow. Yeah. And then by the time, you know, eight, nine hours pass, I'm like, you want to just come back tomorrow? And he's like, oh, no, I'm ready. And he goes right in there and does the lyrics to Unbelievable. And nothing written.

No paper. I've seen people even on social media, some people like, ah, man, I've seen them with paper. Any of the songs I did with them, never had paper. Jay-Z, I've never seen him with paper. Crazy. I've heard that. Is that real? I mean, let's say memorized it.

Sometimes people, like... How is that even possible? It's nuts to me to be able to... Every Jay-Z record, same thing. He would hear, he would describe what he wants. I tailor it. He goes, that's it. Alright, turn the mic on. I've seen a couple videos like that of other rappers and other producers too, Timbaland.

When a guy hears a beat that he likes and you see it's just like go time. And that to me is one of the coolest scenes in the world. A producer and a rapper linking up on something that they both are like this is it yeah crazy i got the method what was like your uh was there a beat or an album or something that like you that kind of made you like hip-hop royalty like was there one was there was there a point where it was like... That made me royalties? Where everyone was like, I need a primo beat. I mean, to me, around 92, after we did the Gangstar Daily Operation album, and that's when Take It Personal and Dwit came out. And then on top of that, when I got the call from KRS-One to do Return of the Boom Bap,

which is still weird now because he said that before any records were made, he said, I want to do an album called Return of the Boom Bap, which is still weird now because he said that before any records were made, he said, I want to do an album called Return of the Boom Bap. And now people categorize our style of hip hop as Boom Bap. Now you have Trap, you have Drill, you know, but people say Boom Bap as one of the categories. I mean, if you say Boom Bap, he's synonymous with boom bap. But after working with KRS and I'm idolizing him and he's trusting me to be, you know, almost 90% of the production along with me and Kid Capri and Showbiz and himself because KRS makes beats. Then the calls just started coming like nonstop. Yeah. And then you, is that just like a kind of a business negotiation where it's just like, I'll tailor it for you and, you know, it's.

I was just, I thought that's what everybody did. Now, everybody is like, give me a beat CD. And you send them 30 beats and they pick, I want 10 and number two and number one and they do a record. Right. I'm used to just saying, meet me at the studio and let's cook it right there. And that's all I know. So I'm used to that method because that's how it was. And, you know, the labels were cool back then.

They were like, oh, we're going to fly them up and meet up with you if they're from out of town. And they're like, take them out to a club and just turn the record in. They just, like, turned the record in. And that's what we did. We could take them out to a club, have a good time, bring them girls to hang out at the house, and the next day the record's done, everybody's happy,

and everybody's just like, damn, that was easy. That's crazy that they don't do that anymore. I was going to say, when you're talking about making art, I know since the writer's strike in TV, it's been a big thing that they don't let the writers on set anymore because they don't want to pay them i'm like well then how the fuck can you make art if you can't like see how the other person's working and how like yeah see you wonder why all these shows suck you know it's like and it forces you and honestly that led us into our situation because it forces you to say all right fuck it we'll do it and by we'll do it

it means we'll hire our own staff. We create essentially a label of amazing people who want to work with you and want the long game and want the record. So we all have teams like that. And we ended up in Queens at his studio because we wanted to hang out. We hung out all day long. We made the song. It was like done.

No one went in with any idea we just had time yeah because there's no label counting counting you know because they're not spending any money anymore right you spend your own money because of the art and it's kind of going back to what it was supposed to be but it's like it's almost like any relationship where you go i almost think like even in in you know apps and Tinder and stuff like that where like you got to be in the room with someone to really get to know them, to realize how they want to work. FaceTime it with doctors and shit. It's all a joke. It's my number one like old person thing.

I have many of them. But my number one is like if we're not in a room, we can't fucking work together. It doesn't make sense to me. When we had to do FaceTime interviews for the podcast, it was one thing. Like, we have to. And then it even opened up some doors where it was like, this person's on the West Coast. They would never be on the show. But now they're willing to jump on.

And if you have a good connection and headphones and a mic, you know, fine. But then COVID was over and everybody still was like, oh, just FaceTime. And I'm like, bro, you're from Jersey. Like, get in the fucking, you know, like, come in. And it just is not the same. There's a little bit of a lag and everyone's stepping on each other's, you know, it's just a nightmare. That's what music's supposed to be, right?

Especially music, you got like your jam session, you fuck around, you freestyle, you figure it out, right? And I think with most people with music now, it's at the point where I can tell. It's not that I don't, new artists are amazing to me. I mean, I can learn so much from a new artist. That's one thing I'm wide open to, is just learning. But there's something about veteran

musicians that when you get into a studio, you don't even have to talk about 80 things. This is over here, do this, do that. It's just like, you're self-regulating everything. You're not going to say an idea unless you've already beat yourself up over it you know times you say hey primo check check this out what do you think of this beat man

i could never even if i was like ultra confident in whatever i could ever be like playing music for someone else or you're like what do you think of these lyrics oh my god especially better someone awesome like that yeah you know yeah it was heard at all yeah exactly what do you think was like your best studio session I mean for me KRS-One was such a big deal because before I had a record deal, this is who I'm looking up to. So that was, I mean, the Biggie session was always funny. He's a funny dude, right? He was just naturally funny.

Same thing with Big L. He just was naturally funny. So you're just laughing all through the session. And then he's writing incredible rhymes. I think there's a lot of overlap with comedy and rap. I think funny rappers. We're all into the same things. From sports to music to even the adult world.

It all is kind of in the same type of umbrella. Sure. I remember we went to one of the AVNs years ago. Who's we? Me and one of my guys. Me and one of my guys. Me and someone with a wife. But everybody's there.

This was 50 Cent just blew up with his first album. He's got a G-Unit booth, and Flavor Flav is there, and Cypress Hill's there, and all of the actors, male and female, like, yo, I love you. When I work out and I play your records and we play your stuff at the parties, and everybody's fans of everybody. And that's when you know that it's the same thing with, like they say, if I cut him with a razor and I cut it, the blood is still red.

It's not based on your color, you know. I don't have brown blood and he has white blood. Now it's New Hampshire, maybe. You know I got a nice brown shit. I got a question for you guys. Obviously, such titans of the music industry. How do you find new music? That's a great question.

Do you guys find it like we do? Like, do Joe Schmo, like, Spotify recommends it to you? No, I never get the recommendations. I will always be around either, like, younger folks hanging at the studio a lot so at the studio where I'm lucky enough to be at it's always

they're making records on one end and writing records on the other end so in that hallway is just people listening to ideas and making new stuff

and I'll say what is that yeah and then and that's always what it is it's never no one's recommending

it to me because the second you recommend something to me I I'm like, nah. I don't know why. I'm just an asshole. Why am I such a dickhead? Why am I such an asshole? Oh, you like something?

I hate it. So it has to be on my... I'm like that sometimes, too. My manager was like, check this out, check this out, check this out. Sometimes. But it's 50-50. Because certain ones he put me on, I'm like, oh, yeah, I like this. Certain ones I'm like, no, yeah, I like this.

Certain ones I'm like, no, I will not work with them. But same thing, I put him on the stuff that I grew up on and what's good to me. And it's a healthy relationship and it's healthy for us to learn from each other in that way because he's way back of a generation than I am. And then my son just turned 13, and he's like, Dad, listen to this. So he put me up on Sexy Red. So what does your son think about when I – even just like these guys who are just 20-something, so not even really young. The difference in rap music is crazy to me. I don't even think of it as the same genre anymore because what they like, I can't stand.

And what I like, they're like, shut up, old man, you know. What do you think about that? It's crazy because he plays travel ball. So a lot of times when we got to drive to practice, he's like, we have our little thing because he'll go, you know, the Bluetooth, he just does that, and I'll go, no. And we just played this little silly game. He's like, Dad, Bluetooth.

I finally let him hear it. I mean, let him take the Bluetooth over. And like I said, he's playing Ski-E, and then he's playing – I like Boss Man D-Lo. Like, I love that record. Get in with me. But then he puts on i ain't no joke from eric b and rock him and i turn around like oh you got that in your bag

does he listen to you oh yeah okay yeah not not a lot he but he likes you know my steez he likes you know my steez he likes family and loyalty he likes skills he likes uh uh dwick he likes um and these are ones he'll play. He loves Unbelievable from Big. Yeah. Like, even when he's going to warm up and he doesn't pitch all the time, but he's more of a clutch pitcher. So, if he's going to pitch, he's like, play Juicy. You know, while I'm warming up.

Yeah. Stuff like that. So, there's certain records he likes. But all the new stuff, he'll put it on. He already knows the words. So I'm sitting there kind of just looking in the rearview mirror because he's sitting there doing the words. That would make me very proud if my 13-year-old knew that kind of shit instead of the new stuff. I take a snapshot of everything he plays.

And he's like, take a snapshot of this one too. And then I'll actually put it in my computer so that I have all this new stuff. And then all of a sudden you look up and- Do you like it though? The ones that I put on? Like I said, I love Boss Man D-Lo. Yeah. I love, I mean, I like sexy red. Everybody's like, ah, she just twerks.

Has he ever listened to a song and not known it was your beat? Not really. Because he always knows it's you? He's come to my gigs before and seen me DJ and stuff like that. So he, like, knows your catalog pretty well. Yeah, but enough. I know as he gets older, it'll even resonate more. But for the fact that even his first walk-up,

he came out to Bad Name, which was the new record that we did on our Gangsta album, the posthumous album that I did in 2019. And then after that, he came out to Wave Gods, where I did the Scratches for Nas with A$AP Rocky and Hit Boy. And he was like, I want to come out to this. So, you know. That's got to be a cool experience.

And right now, Cream is his walk-up song from Wu-Tang. So he does have good taste. Yeah, then he puts on Sade, and I'm like, hold on, hold on, hold on. Who put you on this? He goes, well, sometimes the YouTube makes the song come up, and I like this song. So even his own ear, he's liking it, but he knows it's from my generation. You know what we just were listening to before you guys walked in? Akineli, put it in your mouth.

I don't know how it came up, but I was like, do you guys know this song? And they were like, no. And I played it, and it's obviously horrendously offensive, but it's a bop, man. It's a song.

And it's comedic and real. And well done. They were talking about eating ass back then. They were out of their top way at that time. It's everybody doing it now. It's more of an educational thing. It's like a class. The 90s, man.

Don't ever remove us from life. It was a great time, man. So the song, I like the vibe of... I feel like it's not very often you make songs about friends. Right. It's always love. It's always love. Yes. It's always guy to girl.

But just like the fellas. Okay. Hanging out with the boys is underrated. This is exactly what I'm glad you picked up on it. We even, we put it in the parentheses, the friendship song, because we just wanted to drive home that like, this is not a love song about person to person. This is about the crew. Yeah.

Yeah. Because everybody has it. For me, it's,'s I can even right now I can hear the crickets in my backyard my friends start to show up at the table someone's rolling something up

someone's drinking something someone's hanging out and it's like that's what the song's about those people the ones that can just stop by and there's very few

in Far Between you can just fucking stop by the ones you know you don't see them for like 10 years but when you do you just slide right back in that's right I don't see them for like 10 years, but when you do, like you just slide right back in.

That's right. I don't need to talk to you all the time, but like those are maybe one hand you can count those on. Yeah, and it's a slow burn in the song. If you really, if you let it ride and listen to it in that environment even, that's what it sounds like. And I think that's what he means by tailoring too toward this song. It's like he came in with an idea of that feeling

the guitar is the way it is for that simple purpose that you could play it sitting outside in your backyard right you know and i just wanted to kind of i don't think there are enough songs about the boys you know the boys like it's always love, and it's always girls. It's like the boys are so much better. Boys Are Back in Town is our last one. It's the last one we got. That's a great one. It's a great song. But, dude, I woke up last Friday morning by 8, 30, 9 o'clock, whatever,

listened to the song right away, immediately texted it to both group chats and friends, and exactly the kind of friends you're talking about, like friends I haven't seen, friends I And exactly the kind of friends you're talking about. Friends I haven't seen. Literally my best friends. But people I never talk to and don't catch up with that often. Cried in bed listening to it.

It is currently if you open my Spotify, it's on repeat. It's all I listen to in the shower every morning. It's a fucking great song. We're so happy that people like it. It was just genuine we met he took his guitar out of the case played that riff i said that's it literally in like five ten minutes bro it just happened and we wrote the lyrics together i thought about my friends from

high school very specific people man who i'm still tapped in with now some of them i'm worried about them sometimes you know not everyone's doing the best man and you can't talk to him every day and and i that that hurts me some days you know and but i just i just kept that group of friends in my mind and he kept his group of friends in his mind and the lyrics just bar for bar just uh it's yeah who's gonna call you when you uh who's gonna call you so i've been singing this every single night. Yeah, who are you going to call when you ain't heard nothing but the silence? It's like when you are doing your shit in New York or wherever you are,

and you notice, like, nobody's checked up on me in a long time. You know what I mean? If I died, it would take five or six days before people smelled. People smelled. You know what I'm saying? They'll fall right to the house.

I think Brady's dead Somebody's dead Somebody's dead It is It is a like It's an exceptionally Transportational song Not transformational Like

The moment you put it on You're back in that backyard It's I know exactly where I am You know that Last week Last week I was in Cooperstown And you know The drive from there back to New York

where the city part is, it's all these one-lane roads. And I remember calling Ian and saying, yo, man, I've been playing this song. I think I'm on my 20th play. Because it just even fit the road and made me just think about friends and just a whole bunch of stuff that you miss about what makes having good friends,

you know, in your life be so great to live, you know. That blows my mind. He's listening. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You know what I'm saying. Yes. I can't even imagine.

Like, you guys are so incredible in your own right but then to think about like some of the sessions of the people and the songs that he's worked with and then to work with you guys it's just crazy that's what i said it's like a weird dream it's like i just would never think of that happening it's yeah that's what just happened it was organic and we've just been following it down that's what's so cool about songwriting. You know, we wrote it that day. We had to build it from there, but I'm just glad that we followed it down and now we're on the road playing it

in front of thousands of people every night. All my friends that are in the audience with signs going nuts. It's just absurd. My mom's in the audience last night. He's got his crew, his buddies, called the Salmon Boys. He's leaving this house.

That's an inside joke. They wear salmon clothes. Shouts to the Salmon Boys. He's leaving this house. That's an inside joke. They wear salmon clothes. Shouts to the Salmon Boys. The Salmon Boys, let's go. Let's cut them open. Let's find out. I need one. Let's go.

I'm Bleed Salmon. Yo, dude. Yeah, no, that's an inside joke. Two weekends ago, we had a crazy reunion. It was my boy's 40th birthday. So all the gang, the boys from back in the day, all flew out. It's like, you guys better fucking be there. My friend flew from hong kong no for the weekend dude end up staying two weeks to come to the boston show might lose his job um so show my boy vinnie

man he just got back to hong kong he's fucked up right now i already know so yeah we were we were playing um we were having this awesome weekend we we took a nap and uh because we were playing. We were having this awesome weekend. We took a nap because we were just getting banged up all day on the boat. We were up in Lake Winnipesaukee. Woke up. Donald Trump had been – the assassination happened while I took an hour and a half nap and came downstairs. Him too. Me too, bro.

So you're a salmon boy, bro. Hell yeah, dude. Let me just say this. I don't even fully know what a salmon boy entails. I can tell you he's a salmon boy. He looks like it. He's a salmon boy, for starters. He's pink.

Miss Pat, the comedian Miss Pat once said, you're not white, you're pink. It's not just black people that call you pink. You call each other pink ago as a black girl would you ever go out with a white guy she goes not because it's their pink the oh shit man yeah no you're a salmon boy though he's an issue in the gang let me just finish one of those the world had changed we ate dinner

we go downstairs we start we get on the on the on the Beirut table start going and I look to my to my right

my friend's wearing this same fucking outfit he had we both had denim hats on salmon shirts black shorts and sandals

and we're like we're like, what the fuck? What are the odds of this? And then we started winning. And then we're like, salmon boys. And we started getting up and jumping around and doing the fish dance whenever we got in. So now it's catching. And now the OAR guys are like, salmon boys. It's just an absurd thing that happened.

And now it's spreading. Here we are. are like, salmon boys! It's just an absurd thing that happened and now it's spreading. I'm pretty sure when his last show of the tour comes, the entire band will be decked out. Denim hats. Salmon shirts. Let's go back to the denim hats. Do they sell denim hats? Where do you buy a denim hat?

I don't know. It's 34th Street. It sounds like something Charlie Day found under a bridge. Make sure you gotta boil it. It's gonna be boiled down. I got a question for you, Preem. When Kendrick Lamar puts out Not Like Us and it's a mustard beat, is that something where it's almost like you're cosigning or picking a side? Or like, you know what I mean?

Can you provide a beat in a battle and be uh impartial or is that like well for that particular one even for the um meet the grams record that alchemist did for kendrick they both didn't know that that was like a while ago right yeah so it wasn't like that they said this is going to be for the battle yeah that's Yeah, that's fucked up kind of, right? But he's such a big artist that you don't get angry. You're more like, oh, man, no matter how it turns out, whether he loses the battle or wins it, you've got another joint with somebody of that caliber.

So even if Drake was the winner of that as well, it's the fact that they're using your track for something major. But would that be something like you would call Drake and be like, winner of that as well it's the fact that they're using your track for something major but is that is that would that be something like you would call drake and be like yo by the way like we're still cool oh if or like if i picked a side of who i like i'm just saying that like so not like us you know it's kind of like the nail in the coffin the battle's over kendrick won and drake is like dj mustard what the fuck right or is he like i understand his business and like well well just the fact that mustard explained that you know he

didn't even know you know when it came right it dropped in it was crazy he's like shit i didn't know you were gonna use that yeah so he's not gonna be like yo take it down or man you should have you should have told me um but i do feel like you should yeah you should should right yeah but not everybody does but i mean kendrick is on such a level that, oh, he used one of my joints. It's going to carry because he's that big of a deal. Yeah. You know, so. What did you think of that whole battle?

Dope. Yeah. It was good for him. Some people, you know, some people were thinking, saying, like, it went too far and got too messy. But I'm like, as long as everybody's still alive alive I think it goes as messy as it gets like that's if you're if you're in it you gotta know why you're in it and yeah no there's levels to like they say there's levels to this shit yeah so I feel like that's why J. Cole kind of backed out and then it well well he explained it on yeah like you know I don't want to do all that that was a lot and and even he got involved he wrote a record that actually got at them. So it's like, all right, if somebody fires back at you and eats you alive,

you stepped in the fire. But he said, look, I don't want to be a part of it after that. Yeah. And the crazy thing is I just ran into Colin, had a discussion with him about it two days ago. Really? Just unexpectedly. So what did he think? Like, where it all ended up up first thing i said to him after we were just kicking about other

stuff i said dude look at the timing of when you said i'm done well i i mean as a hip-hop fan i was kind of killing him being like you can't you can't bow out of the battle and take it down you got a battle and then he went and everyone's like you were the smartest fucker in the whole room he got heat and he got well that's Cole he's not that a battle rapper so

you know but to do the the shooter record and then everybody starts saying Kendrick man you're quiet

it's too late it's been so many months and you haven't said anything it's over and all of a sudden he just came out firing and back to back he put he resurrected the whole west coast it went beyond just that battle drake can't be mad i mean when he did back to back getting that meek mill the club

there's not even a record that he released as a record and it went once it put up on streaming he was streaming or not every club was playing back to back and when the when the females start singing it too that's when you know that's when you knew they were singing back to back she was listening to uh uh not like us and she was like oh i didn't know this was like a bop i was like oh drake is fucked if she's gonna be singing that and dancing that? He is fucked. Back to back. Same way, yeah. It had every club rocking in every state. And I was there to witness going to clubs and like, wow, this record is

that big. And it was a Meek Mill diss. Tough when you're on the wrong end of that. So you gotta be able to take when it's done to you and just keep on pushing. Speaking of battles, I told Mark that OAR needs to do a versus against Dispatch or another jam band. I love it.

Let's create a versus Dispatch. I love it. I've tried. I've been at radio stations and just been like, pick on one of my friends, be like, Matt Nathanson, man, that dude doesn't know shit.

I'll call him out and be like, Matt, say some shit. And no one picks up on it. Battle's good for business man we'll keep trying i don't think there's a producer alive that could beat you preem in a battle who do you think would go who do you think would give you the biggest run for your money i mean i remember when i did the verses during the pandemic before it got even blew up, you know, it was just, you know, you go live and you do it. Obviously, I didn't want to do it just because I, you know, me and P-Rock have done battles before and toured with it.

I wanted to do it with Dr. Dre and I was like, he's not going to say yes. And then. Why not? Dre knows when to say yes when not to say yes I'm comfy I'm happy I'm not doing that um I get a call from Swiss Beats and Timbaland together and they're like you won't do it I'm like no I said if Dre says yes I'll do it. Then he says, what if RZA did it with you? I said, that I'll do it. We did it.

Everything happens. I called Dre. I can't even remember why, but I called him. And as soon as he answers the phone, he always goes, primo. I said, he saw the verses. I said, man, you know know I really wanted To do it Which is why I didn't even want

To do it at all He goes Oh I would have done it I'm like Motherfucker Did we make that happen Oh it's definitely Not happening now

No why not I mean I did mine already I know And we did it In the early stages You know When it was the best By the way

When it was still like A sponsorship and everything A real natural thing They started doing it In big arenas yeah i think mine was just uh okay now press unmute on your phone yeah now aim it a little more this way that's my claim to fame is i accepted the the ig live request from rizzo and i was like helping out yeah it was in the pandemic where you couldn't like go anywhere

like you couldn't like visit your mom. Right. So it was just me, Preem, I think, and Ian. You just watched that go down. Oh yeah.

I had to get the live for him. Preem was fumbling around the phone. I'm like, can you hear me? Can you hear me? There's a lot of that. Yeah. I remember.

Those are the good old days of that show. Oh my God. That was crazy. How many people were watching? It was like 500,000 people. It was nuts. I mean, that was, I think, one of the coolest things that's ever happened. And then, like, when it went on stage, like, Jadakiss had that moment with the locks and

dip set. That was incredible. But for the most part, I feel like the onstage shit did not hit the same way as, you know, being trapped at home. I mean,iss was literally in his car trying to get like good wi-fi because his house was i mean that stuff like hip-hop continues they like they set it it'll set that genre will set the standard yeah and then the companies come in and you know what i'm saying and then it's time how can we make this money

how can we monetize it? Yeah. I remember after the year one with RZA, I was making, I sat on Spotify painstakingly making a list of all the songs that they made. Like, not knowing that

like Spotify had that done like immediately. Like a billion people were listening to theirs and I was like, I made a list over here. It's like, yeah, we know, dude.

All right, man. Well, I mean, I could bother you with hip-hop questions forever man but uh we'll let you get back to to whatever you guys are doing next so i mean we're dragging dragging brady continuing on and the new york shows are this weekend new york this weekend news yes oh fuck yeah okay and so let me just say so this dude john feidelberg friend first and foremost amazing person but he was in our video for our last record in the clouds and he's a dude i said i said hey man i got a big favor i know like we don't it's gonna take a day of your whole you know whole day of your life will you please be in

this video here's the treatment he writes back yeah no problem it's the honor of my life like this i almost want to thank you I mean I don't want to speak for you but I feel like John has all of a sudden just blossomed into this fucking actor on this sketch show he does Out of Order it's amazing we've been doing this podcast for like 15 years

and all of a sudden he's like an Academy Award winning actor and I really feel like the first maybe I don't know but I feel like that music video was kind of almost jump started things in a way it was definitely like yeah it was yeah you're probably you know like all of a sudden he's in front of a camera and he's like acting and moving but rewind even further they've been so great like you know when you have folks that like support you just they're just there for you man we i was doing a record release at sony something and i'm looking back and they're standing in the back like supporting this record release party

that like not a lot of people do record release parties anymore but he had this hat on and i walked up i said you're gonna be a movie star i just know it and look at him bro he is a damn movie star man he is first of all the support fucking chill out with that dude the yeah we got invited to your album release party yeah but you showed up like no one else showed up bro if i if i showed you my senior page from high school there's an embarrassing amount of oar quotes on that so wherever you ask me to be i'll be there whenever listen the love is both ways you guys have been amazing to us i know and and shouts to Nate, wherever Nate is. Yeah, the dog.

Nate dog for life. Wait, I just found out he smoked a Q-tip when he was on tour with you. Yeah, we took him too. We take people. We were at the Pier 17. He was talking shit. He was in the bus after the show. I'll fucking go on tour.

I don't give a shit. That's a good name. That's a great name. I don't fucking care. I'll fucking go on tour. I don't give a shit. That's a good name. That's a great name. I don't fucking care. I'll fucking go on tour. He's getting more and more wasted. We're like, oh, cool. Here's this.

Here's this. Here's this. And just like piling shit onto him. You know, you don't do this to people. This is not allowed. It's not even legal. And he's talking shit. I'm good.

And then the engines kick on. He doesn't notice. The bus is... And I'm like, oh, shit. He doesn't know. And is and i'm like oh shit he doesn't know like take him and we start driving to north carolina it wasn't like just a show down the road it was a fucking five and i told him i go to the front of the bus to talk and say yeah we can go go ahead i come to the back of the bus he's in the back going like this i'm like nate he's like

i go that's a fucking q-tip man he's like he's like I'll fucking go on tour I don't give a shit and the next day he wakes up in North Carolina and I don't know I don't know

if people were very happy with his not showing up to work he did he couldn't hear you he could show up he had to write his way out of it I know he had to deliver

a couple books no I remember the call where he's just like you could tell he's in bed he's like or you can show up. He had to write his way out of it. I know he had to deliver a couple books. I remember the call where he's like, you can tell he's in bed. He's like, I think I'm in North Carolina. I was like, yeah, I know you're in North Carolina. You Shanghai'd him, dude. I was like, that's literally kidnapping.

Oh, we are human traffickers. Don't hang out with us. I'm coming to Red Rocks, so hopefully I can do that. So this hang is going to be crazy. I'm so excited that you're coming. I've never been. I'm so excited. Red Rocks, I've never been either.

It looks like another planet. It's a play. Is it? I mean, the memories are crazy. You show up, even in the morning when everyone's running up and down the stairs. It's a public park. Is that a hip-hop venue? A lot of hip-hop venues? We did Smoke and down the stairs. It's a public park. Is that a hip-hop venue? We did Smoke and Grooves there.

So it was Busta Rhymes and the Flipmo Squad, Public Enemy, Cypress Hill, Gangstar. We brought M.O.P. and Freddie Foxx with us. Who else was on it? The Black Eyed Peas were a new group that were more almost like a jazz rap. Yeah, I remember that. They had a band, and Maya was on it, Wyclef. Jesus Christ. This is when, and they brought Cannabis with them,

so that's when Second Round Knockout came out. That was a good one, when him and LL were going at it. So he was on the tour, and that's how me and Alist uh got got cool because he was the roadie for cypress hill that's why yeah there's a segment he's another great one oh yeah who's your favorite producer i have a few um i'm a big fan of larry smith because he did all the early run dmc and houdini records so that was our you know read the back of it, everything said Larry Smith, Larry Smith. Yeah. You know, Marley Mall is like my all-time favorite because he really revolutionized sampling. Yeah.

And took it to just a different level of understanding the science of that. So he's my number one. How does that even work? Like when you're thinking of a chorus that you're going like scratch you know this lyric that lyric that bar that like you have that in your head already sometimes it's based off of what they say in the rhyme or the name of the song yeah and as and since i'm a dj i always feel like a dj mind is a little more intensive you know because i produce and dj yeah i'll just start hearing you know so and so said that in a rap. And I'll run to it and be like, did he say that?

And I'll try it. I'm like, yeah, he did. Okay, save that. Now it's like, does it go first, second, third, fourth? But just save it or see where it feels good in an eight-bar gap. And I'll just start kind of just looking. And then I'll just think of other stuff like damn so-and-so said this because that's how djs being that we have a battle mentality we remember a lot of rhymes yeah so it is just something like like so for like nas is like you're thinking like i'm a rebel you just have that like was actually more put together because i just kept hearing him saying uh on um

it ain't hard to tell nas is like an afrocentric age uh asian half man half amazing and i was like oh that nas is like would be kind of dope to do because he don't have a record called nas is like so i made that the main thing to work around and then i told him meet me at the studio i got this idea called nas is like i think this might be it and everybody else had already had a single q-tTip had a single with One Love. P-Rock had The World is Yours. Lord Professor had several with Halftime and Barbecue and Ain't Hard to Tell. And I never had a single with him.

I would always have sub cuts on the album. Yeah. Even on Illmatic, no singles. And then he's like, yo, yours is going to be the first single to launch my second album. I mean, my third. I Am. It was on the... Was that the third or fourth?

Because Nostradamus... No, I think... So Nostradamus is after the third album. How do you react to the Illmatic being named the greatest hip-hop album? Man, it's crazy. How many songs do you have on that? Three. Three.

And in the Library of Congress, all of the library of congress yeah so how does that i mean this is it's just one of the best feelings to let you know keep doing it you know it's so it's crazy it's so timeless because like i said so much rap has changed but if like that song that album i feel like you can listen to i mean there was a moment where i crashed my mom's minivan when i was 16 and then my my poor dad, who had, like, his business had this Infiniti Q45, and, like, somehow I had to get to school because I destroyed her car,

and he had to get a ride to work, and I ended up with his car. And that line, Q45 Infinit, and I was like, I thought I was the hardest dude ever. I got it. I'm driving the Q45. But the story is, I crashed my mommy's minivan and my daddy's Infiniti. Sky's the limit.

I got to tell him that. That's very funny. I went on, do you know the Road podcast, Reflections of a DJ? Do you know those guys? No. It's DJ Never and Crooked. It's a DJ? Do you know those guys? No. It's DJ Neva and Crooked. It's a DJ podcast. Right.

And I was talking with, I think it was Goldfinger. I was talking to DJ Goldfinger. And he was explaining to me that Illmatic was almost the first time that multiple producers from different camps kind of came together. Yeah. Is that really the first album that happened? Yeah. So you were just kind of producing for your guy,ete rock yeah he's doing his thing large professor to me large

professor is the dj premier to nas you know i'm saying yeah that's his point and only guy and uh because he's i used to hang around large professor before nas was out and he's the one that told me he said man i got this new guy called the rapper because at that time he was called the rapper nas yeah because queens guys like rapper annoyed you know everybody has puts rapper if you're from queens they would say rapper and then the mc name and i was and he said i got this guy akanele and i was like akanele like the name we never heard of it next thing you know he said yo the record's done check out what we did and it's a posse and posse cuts were a new thing but which we give that to marley maul because when he did the symphony with with uh craig g and big daddy kane and cool g rap and and master ace all of a sudden every artist was like we got to do a

crew yeah scenario right everybody yeah it's almost like it like you broke the seal and it was like oh wait we can all yeah do with other. It doesn't have to be this duo, this group. Marley set that off. And then all of a sudden, you know, you got Buddy with the whole Native Tongues with Dayla and Queen Latifah and all of them. And so that's how Dwick was put together. We got to do a posse cut. And that's how the barbecue record was to put Nas and Akineli on. And when he played that, it just shot around the world immediately.

Yeah. You know, and then from there, it was just, you know, when he got a deal, Lars Fresser was like, I need to get all y'all together to do this album with Nas. And that's his debut album. You didn't know about him? You just heard Lars Fresser sign him. Not until Lars Fresser told me.

And so his debut album, he gets beats from all you guys fucking smokes it like to perfection no because after after barbecue he did halftime and zebra head came out the movie with Michael Rapaport mm-hmm so Michael rap was a die-hard head he knows he knows his hip hop so we didn't know who Michael Rapaport was but you know we. He knows his hip hop. So we didn't know who Michael Rapaport was, but we saw the movie. So when we saw the Zebra Head movie and Halftime was the theme song for that,

then all of a sudden, back to the grill with MC Serge and Chub Rock. And Chub Rock was a big deal at the time. Then he got the deal. After that record, all of a sudden, Nas was just the talk of the town. Why can't rock music be that cool? So like I was hanging out with

Yachty Yacht Dude that's what's so funny about Hip hop aging I've been saying this for like a couple years now Hip hop aging is so funny Because it's the first time That you were seeing these guys 50, 60 years old.

You're becoming a father, a grandfather. You have families. But all your music is still inherently cool. It's never not going to be cool to be on a preem track talking about what you're talking about. So it's aging in a funny way where it's like – but it is funny to hear the new kids be like, that shit's lame.

I'm like, no, it's not. Like, fucking listen, listen dude listen to this beat listen to these lyrics this is not lame i don't care how old it is you know so yeah you're not gonna ever have that that street that street cred man sorry no it's not gonna happen i'll keep trying yeah but you have a primo beat yeah how many rock artists have a primo beat it's it's been it's been literally the dream you know I told you dream collaboration

beyond right so we know when we played it at night it comes from the right place and that's what we all agree on

is that you know the real shit is about collaboration being in the room bands groups of friends being in the place

being there it's not on the internet it's not on the zooms it's not on we've learned that's not on the Zooms. It's not on... We've learned that. Yeah. Be present. We love to be present.

And that's hopefully this song reminds people that. I think it does because they're singing along every single night. It does incredibly so. That's awesome. It's a good sing-along for sure. So happy, man. Well, we appreciate all you guys coming through. Thank you very much, gentlemen.

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