KFC Radio - E-40, Rod Breslau (@Slasher), and Thumb Wrestling for Hostages

Episode Date: August 1, 2019

KFC and Feits debate how they could save hostages, whether the Bachelorette is worth watching, whether the Democratic National debates are worth watching, who is the King of Late Night, and if Taco Tuesday is racist. King of the Bay Area, E-40 comes through to drink wine and tequila, inventing the phrases All Good, You Feel Me and Captain Save-A-Hoe, the Warriors, the Knicks, A$AP Rocky, the art of storytelling and Guy Fieri. Rod Breslau (the Adam Shefter of e-sports) joins the show to explain where all the money comes from, how leagues are organized, how kids get screwed out of the prize money, and what else Barstool should be doing in the e-sports space.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/kfcr

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We got a couple interviews. We got E-40, the legendary rapper. You love that name, bro. You love that noise. I think I'd do it like a cartoon character of E-40 would. Yeah, I feel like you should have done that for E-40, and he would have been like, what are you doing? I'm doing your noise, dude. Like if E-40 was like in a – if the rap world was transported into a cartoon where they're all animals, E-40 would be like a sea lion who goes – Does that make sense?

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We're also going to be diving into the video game esports world. We got you know him on Twitter at Slasher on the program. Big time esports reporter. We're going to talk a little bit about the World Cup of Fortnite and just esports culture in general. The office coming up.

But last night was the – or two nights ago, as you're listening to this, was the finale of The Bachelor, which I know you're not in on, like, awkwardness and train wrecks. Yes. But good Lord, man. You got to. The unintentional comedy. Honestly, I try to.

I can't. I don't like that kind of content where it's just like really awkward. It's not for me. I don't enjoy it. I know like people – sometimes people here try and make it happen. I have no interest in participating in that. When the couple is dancing together, they're going, ooh, I got my man. I got my man.

I was like – I saw – When he sung his song. There were a lot of videos you tweeted last night that I tried to watch. I paused like two seconds. Nope. Can't do it. Can't do it.

It's just, it's, it's, I don't find it entertaining. They have built an empire. I wish I did. I would like to, I would like to be part of the conversation, but it's just. See, I find it very interesting because. I'd rather watch New Girl for the 20th. In a way, it's almost like KSU radio hypotheticals come to life. Like it's, it's just the most preposterous of scenarios.

Like, hey, what's up, guys? Hey, fights. KFC, Super Nintendo, BC. So I met this girl, but she fucked my buddy in a windmill four times. Should I still date her? It's like, we're doing it on TV. We're doing that here. It is, yeah.

So I had a girlfriend but i uh went away for a couple months for the summer and i got engaged what should i do which girl should i pick doing it on tv it's it is that that is crazy too like how how little they know each other i i don't know the reality tv has never really done it for me and It makes no sense. It goes, I guess, contradictory to basically everything about me, which is mostly feminine. But, like, reality TV has never appealed to me. That's so genuine. Oh, I love that shit.

And then the real fun is coming up. Bachelor in Paradise starts right away. By the way, we're, like, two seconds away from them just having a Bachelor channel. Like, you subscribe to it on cable and you just have why do they not have that yet i i don't know we should pitch this idea somehow and make money off of it bachelor in paradise is uh you just go on vacation and fuck that's it there's no game i love island yeah so there's there's other ones but like there's you know usually there's a. It's like sometimes people do get engaged at the end if they want to, but it's just like, but we just want to watch you fuck.

That's amazing. But here's the deal. You're just watching what you're watching when you're like, we just want to watch you fuck. What you're watching on that show is you're watching the bad parts that they just cut out of pornns like like the au contraire my friend like you know that's the part i like awkward interact no but it's not like no you're watching like i like the interviews you're watching like the behind the scenes regular

living life which is like kind of awkward like kind of just like sitting around like so i'm samantha like hey i'm kieran bro uh what Bro. If you think I haven't searched BTS for my porn, you're crazy. I've searched BTS, but they're not like, they're just like, they're having fun and they're naked. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. This is just like the fucking weird people. This is the bad version of it where you watch people crash and burn. You watch them fail.

You watch guys be awkward. You watch girls be like drunk and slutty. You know, it's lowbrow guilty pleasure. Nope. No guilty pleasures.'s lowbrow guilty pleasure. Nope. No guilty pleasures. We don't allow those here. Okay. It's just a pleasure.

Yeah. Stop it. Yeah. If you like it, you're fine. I think I stopped saying guilty pleasure. I remember one time. This is actually crazy. This was like nine years ago.

I was still living in New York. I remember where I was sitting when you tweeted it. And I think you tweeted that a Paula Abdul songdul song is your guilty pleasure straight up now tell me is it gonna be me and you forever and oh oh oh it's a little e40 remix and i watched that video and i loved it and i didn't feel guilty and i said i don't feel bad about this yeah i like this pioneers though you're a pioneer because most guys are still out there going like oh it's gay if i like that no fuck off i like this shirt i like that song yeah shut up fuck you don't care the problem with bachelor in paradise john is my queen is going on there christina oh hannah no christina oh hannah's this one right christina shulman is is is why don't

you show up i bet abc would love that reach Reach out to ABC. Sweep her off her feet. I'll come fucking just roll through and kidnap her. Yeah. That would be good. What if we did that with ABC but we just didn't tell them? We threw a new wrench

in the Bachelor episodes. Kidnapping? We should show up and kidnap someone. But we gotta do masks and everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I don't want to be...

We probably wouldn't even do it. We'd probably have someone stronger do it. I was going to say, I can't pick her up. but can you get in the van please i think it's a pretty solid idea if like if i like i'll if i show up to bachelor in paradise with like a ski mask on both of us you'll help me out i'll help you yeah we both have ski masks i'm not gonna watch the fucking show but we both run and we'll pick up christina and throw her in

a van and then she'll like me yeah yeah that how it works. That's usually how it works. It's the same thing you do with dogs. My dog didn't like me when I got it. You'll eventually like me. I just stole it and made it live with me and eventually it likes me. Give it food. It's called Stockholm Syndrome.

It's a thing. Look it up. The implication. I don't know if that's going to work with Christina, but I'm willing to try. Christina, but we'll try. I'm willing to try. Honestly, it's better.

How much do you really love a girl if you haven't kidnapped her and tried to convince her to make you that way? Fact. And really, it's more like my love for her is on display because that is a more, um, like there's a higher probability that works than me just like wooing her. Yeah.

You know what I mean? Yeah. So if you really love you so much, I'm not even going to give it. I'm not even going to leave the choice to you. Stockholm syndrome occurs in almost 100% of kidnapping victims. Your game works like 3% of the time. We are,

we are treading on some cancel culture. I don't think so. I would fucking make a joke don't go kidnap anybody unless you really want her to like you unless you want to guarantee she falls in love with you that's gonna be our new advice for all the voicemails i like this girl what do i do have you considered kidnapping her and and warping her mentally to the point that she likes you? Have you tried that, you bozo? You haven't even done that?

Well, then why are we even talking? Come back to me if that doesn't work. The goal is to kidnap a girl, to convince her to like you, until eventually, since she likes you, she demands a kid with you and she has to rape you for a baby. Kidnapping and rape, the key to love. What up? Welcome to KFC Radio. Sales is like, fuck. Oh, man.

Yo, but there are people on Bachelor in Paradise. Again, that's the show where you show up and you just party and fuck. That has families have grown from that. Not the bachelor or bachelorette. The one where you just party and fuck that has uh like families have grown from that not the bachelor bachelorette the one where you just party on the beach there are two couples that have like have had multiple kids and have like full flourishing families as a matter of fact chris harrison this crazy motherfucker as they were signing off last night the live show he goes like thank you so much to hannah like congratulations to tyler uh. Congratulations to Jade who had a baby last night in her master closet in her bedroom.

True story. We'll see you on Monday. Wait, why will they see you on Monday? Because Bachelor in Paradise already starts. Bachelor in Paradise starts on Monday. Are you fucking kidding me? I can't get a goddamn break from this show. Twice a week. Two hour episodes.

Four hours a week coming at you. What the fuck? Yeah, man. Why? It's just all people Speaking of Stockholm Syndrome, just fucking do it. There's so long,

it's not good, I don't like it. I don't like it. I tried to like it. I want to like it. I want to partake in the conversation. It's not good. It's like,

Twitter should buy this show and shut it down because it's all fucking people were talking about on my goddamn timeline. Are you going to cry about it? I might. You're going to start crying?

I might. Have you tried watching Christina? No. I mean, I don't know who she is. Yeah, exactly. I don't care for her. Yes, you do. I don't think I do.

You watch your fucking mouth. I've got the scalpel today. You watch your goddamn mouth. Imagine if I just went like this. It would be wild. I would not like that. It's all Bachelor all the time, chris harrison literally runs the world like i actually believe if chris harrison was like nefarious he i swear to god that show was on six hours a day every day

he could be brainwashing us like like if he did it subtly in his in his words if he was just like they like edit in like like give me all your money or some shit like that like vote for donald trump again like he could be controlling the minds of America. He's in America's ear like six hours a day. It's crazy. It's way more than sports. Twitter, timelines, TV. It is so much more Bachelor than the sports.

And I just follow sports people. I follow sports people and comedians. And for some goddamn fucking reason, all they all talk about is The Bachelor. It's insanity. Dude, people love fucking. They don't fuck! You don't see them fuck! Yeah, but you know they're fucking. I don't care. I know everyone's fucking.

It's the world. It's the world. They're not fucking in windmills though. I don't give a shit. I wish I knew when that was happening i go jamie lannister both those fucking people and end that stupid ass show last night the the bachelorette she she stormed out of the car on her way to she wasn't even that pretty either hey hey you you'll you will get canceled if you start talking bad about hannah brown i mean alabama hannah is a

fucking hero of the world right now. I was just like, everyone on that show, no one on that show is that pretty. Tyler, dude, he's fucking, I was in a fraternity that was 17 of those guys. If you speak ill of Christina one more time, we will fight. I said Tyler. I know, you said no one on those shows are pretty. Oh, I don't know what she looks like. I just meant the two hot people everyone keeps talking about.

They look fine. Look, are they better looking than me? they like are they worth tweeting about all the fucking time i don't think so that tyler dude i mean that dude i don't think that dude could be a gap model he looks like the blandest fucking he looks like well that's what gap models look like to be fair but he's not i know what you're saying but that still doesn't have enough pizzazz if you like he looks like a sims like if you just like playing the sims you're like i want to be fair. I know what you're saying, but that's what they do. He still doesn't have enough pizzazz. If you, like, he looks like a Sims, like, if you're just, like, playing the Sims and you're like, I want to be a random white person. That's Tyler. I mean, this is the prettiest girl of all time.

That girl's pretty. Sure. That girl's pretty. I don't know what her name is. Christina or Hannah? Christina. Christina. That girl's pretty.

But, like, the people waxing poetic about Tyler last night on my phone with me. Everyone's just like, oh, my god, this guy's a stunner. Well, you know what is really funny? You're like, he's hotter than anyone in Hollywood. Dave's like, I'll suck this guy's dick. I look at him and I was like, I gotta see this fucking guy. No, I genuinely, I don't lean, I don't personally think he's better looking, but I think he is a hotter commodity than Hollywood stars right now.

I think girls would be into fucking him more than fucking Leo right now. It's crazy. That's what's funny is everybody knows. Like, yeah, if you were to press like even Fran and Rhea who like love this shit, they understand that it's like fabricated. They've only known each other for two months. Right. I'm not saying that's why it's dumb. But at the same time, they will offer commentary and they have emotion as if it's real.

So it's like, who's really the sucker here? You know what I mean? They're like, fuck Jed. He had another girlfriend. You're a scumbag. so it's like who's really the sucker here you know what i mean they were like fuck jed he had another girlfriend you're a scumbag and it's like what yeah like but they both signed up for a reality show no it's like you know it but you're really buying into it as if it's real so who is the real who's the real clown you know what i mean yeah i don't think it was a clown for like enjoying it i just i just wish like there was a different social media site just for the bachelor or there's a social media site for me so i could watch the things i care about which i don't even know what they are uh but i don't know if there

was just like vital tweets and it was just it's just everything except the bachelor but the whole world minus the even the others i don't really care about that either i just i just well the other side i get i get frustrated when people just try and make me care about something i'm like i just don't i did try i don't care i can't believe you even tried i don't try things i don't want to try i mean i watch i mean i watch like seven minutes of an episode of this enough for me and i watch the clip i like i do i if you tweet a clip i'm like okay i trust kevin's judgment and i watch it i can't watch it the knock we talked about the knock i didn't watch that one to be honest bro i still think what do you think you think they edited that in i think

they edited it in so so uh go to my twitter and watch this clip the way because i i think you actually might know based on like how reality tv is shot and shit like that this guy is walking into the room to be straight up beheaded by his fiance whether you fake or not his fiance has found out that he had a girlfriend the entire time that they were like wooing and flirting and she knows she's basically ready to break up with him this is the first time they're like getting together since then she's sitting in her house he walks up to the door how did she find out through like through the world like through people magazine like after you come out of your little like you know you don't have your phone and shit on reality tv so like as soon as

she she's like okay he won we're engaged she gets home people magazine is like he's been playing you the whole time so she basically finds out from like instagram messages and like the girl reached out all this shit so she engaged she gets engaged to a guy and then the world meaning media outlets and fans are flooding her being like he's had a girlfriend the whole time so this chick is like hell hath no fury you know what i mean he rolls up to this house and goes crazy that's how i did it but did he know he was about to get fucked yes still i i i i love that move you try and disarm or something i you're just throwing anything out there at that point maybe if i know i'm fucked that's that's trying to make it like light and airy that's the most

dangerous time to be around me yeah because it's the most dangerous time for me to be around you because i'm just gonna be like hey what's up be playful yeah like so he does that knock they open the door. She gives him a pity hug. And he's like, I missed you so much. And you can see her be like, sit down. I'm like, you're such an asshole. When you're dead to rights like that, there's no playbook.

There's no nothing. You're in uncharted waters each and every time. Each situation is different. There's nothing you can do. It's the worst feeling in the world. Like, when you just know you are dead. I just, I blacked out the entire experience. I don't even know what happened.

That's called depression repression. I'm well aware of it. Is that a thing? Depression repression? Or did you just coin that? I could teach you a thing or two about it. I definitely did that. I don't remember childhood. I blocked out entire

years. I barely remember yesterday. Every single day is a new day to me. I am a goldfish. That's actually the fun part of not being depressed anymore. I have memories. At the end of the day, my brain's like, hey, today was worth remembering. Put's like I have memories. Yeah, it's like at the end of the day my brain's like,

hey, today was worth remembering. Put that one on the fridge. That's how my life goes now. I got two weeks. I've been alive for two weeks basically. It's pretty fun stuff. Every other day it's like when you go to bed and your brain's like,

hey, any of that worth saving? Don't eat that. This paper was a piece of shit. I'll try again tomorrow. That's basically how my life has gone every day. That's like most people have pictures on their phone that they save. Yours is just like, delete all those. We'll keep the space.

I do that with the pictures. Every time I get a new phone, they're like, you got anything on there you want to save? I'm like, no. You got anything about your life that you would like to keep? Family pictures? No, I got literally nothing. I got nothing about your life? They're like family pictures. No, I got literally nothing. No, just give me the new phone.

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The office. What do we got? Kate, because she was at the – she went to basically a bar a, basically a bar last night that where you could, every room was a different candidate for the, for the debate. Right. Yes. And so she,

that's a good idea by the way, because it's like, just go with your kind. Right. You know, segregation. That's where it's at. Like,

don't, don't, don't be arguing. Just go. Like Bernie Sanders, like you'll agree with. Go ahead. Right.

It's like, create your own real life echo chamber as you say here it's twitter yeah um but the uh so she just said the debates in general which i think i i can't i don't watch which is i i probably will watch at some point but like now we have two nights of people 20 20 total people i mean here's the problem let me tell you the first problem politics i'm about to fix the american government system right now because it was i saw some guy i think you might have retweeted it yes the guy who spent 15 million dollars that was going to be my number one topic and he has a zero percent vote chance

rating whatever and he has like 10,000 Twitter followers, right? 29,000 Twitter followers. That guy should not be allowed to waste anybody's time. John Delaney. John Delaney, go fuck yourself, dude. John Delaney, don't give me $5 million. Stop wasting money. And you'll go get him more followers at least?

You can have my Twitter account, bro. There's 215,000 followers for you. All right, John Delaney. 4 million. Way more. 4,900,000. You can have mine. We're going to bring this down to like $29,000.

17 bucks. Boom. He's probably like, this is what I did. This is how I. The lady's going to be real mad about all the LeBron comments. Yeah, he don't want my Twitter account right now bro but it's like

like what he has four daughters how furious would you be if your dad is spending 15 million dollars of your inheritance to go fuck like dude

and he's the biggest loser on the internet go buy a fucking old Ford Mustang if you gotta feel important for a minute you wanna feel cool go buy a fucking summer house. Go fuck a whore. I don't give a shit. Stop wasting

my money on your stupid presidential campaign. You fucking cartoon looking son of a bitch. If I was like, I'd Menendez Daughters this guy. If John Delaney was my dad and he was wasting my fucking inheritance on a goddamn presidential campaign. But bitch, you can't run this house. I'm going to burn it down. If you don't say, if you don't cancel this campaign, I'm going to burn down this house and I'm going to kill my mom and then I'm going to kill you. John is running hot this was my dad and he's like yo he's a successful ceo i think he's a congressman at some point

or something like that and like he had a lot of money i was like all right i don't have to do shit for my whole life because my dad did it but now he's blowing it yeah on a fucking fake popularity contest that you ain't gonna win you're actually gonna lose worse than anybody ever go through your midlife crisis like everyone else yeah buy a car fuck a whore cheat on mom whatever stop spending our money and stop wasting my time the american public's time abc's time and fucking twitter's time it's yo like that's that that is how don, I mean, Donald Trump's done a lot wrong. The worst thing he did in winning that election. Is give everybody hope.

Gave everyone hope, because he was the joke. Now we got Marianne Williamson up here fucking talking like, oh, I'm pulling a 0%. Whatever, I'll just look like a fucking asshole on stage. Maybe it'll work. And, like, hopefully it'll win. Whoever, the vetting process, like who if John Delaney. Marian Williams is a legitimate life coach. What is she doing on

that stage? Who's getting cut? Like if you're first man out, if you open up the MLO, it's like no, you've been declined for the fucking debate and you see Marian Williams and John Delaney up there, those people should put a bullet in their head. How big of a loser can you be that you're worse than those guys?

You know who is an important person on that stage, though? It's Beto O'Rourke. Yeah. He's like the guy, right? No, he's a great example. Don't ever listen to fucking Twitter. Oh, really? He sucks?

That dude went on a Senate run, got Twitter a little bit excited for a week. He should be president. And he's like, all right, I'll run for president. I was like, dude, I was fucking kidding, man. man it was just a tweet don't take it so serious you look like an asshole up there see i wouldn't i i am so out i didn't watch it like i just know no one talks about him no one cares about him the only thing i know about him is he can't he doesn't know what to do his hands anytime he's talking his hands are all over the fucking map he's got a stupid name and he's got a dui that's all i know about that guy and he fakes being hispanic he's a hacker skateboarder

fake mexican dumb name can't use his hands and he took that he got a dui anyway and he lost and he yeah and he took it out to fucking ted cruz right yeah he lost the zodiac killer you guys are the biggest losers on the planet but but as you say that it's like aoc is like i fucking slung drinks and tacos, and I got a bunch of Twitter followers, and now I'm running New York. It's like, it's kind of like, is there anybody who can do it? So John Delaney, anybody can do it. Except for you, homie.

Except for you, you goddamn fucking idiot. Just give me money. You want to make a difference in America? Instead of wasting $15 million and looking like a douchebag on stage, give me a couple of thousand bucks. Give a bunch of us. Give everyone at Barstool, like, a fucking bonus. Do you think that you could?

That will have a bigger influence on America than whatever the fuck you were doing on that stage. That's not the highlights, and you look like an asshole. Do you think that you could buy the Barstool vote? Oh, I'll throw it in with my Twitter followers. No, no, no. I know us. I know us. I mean stoolies.

What do you mean? Like some stoolies fancy themselves so like fucking politically into it. You know what I mean? The rest of us are like, I don't know, whatever. Who fucking cares? If you had like a bajillion dollars and you were just like, I'll Venmo you guys $2,500 and just buy everybody there. Yeah.

You had to pledge your vote to me. You know what I mean? I think you could buy them. I think you could buy them for sure. If you give me money, I'll vote for you. Yeah. That had to pledge your vote to me. You know what I mean? I think you could buy them. I think you could buy them for sure. If you give me money, I'll vote for you. That's what I'm saying. And then my new thing here is I just beg people for money. Do you know about corruption?

I've heard of it. Does that work? Is that just bribery? That shit work? That's politics, bitch. I am still not even registered. Really? I don't think so.

I'm registered. I don't think so. I'm registered. I don't think I ever registered. But you know who I do love, though? I don't, and again, this isn't, I don't know about his, I mean, I know his politics or everyone yells socialist or whatever. Bernie Sanders, man. Burn, baby, burn. I love that motherfucker.

There was one legitimate point last night where he threw his hands up and then the other guy said, go ahead, Bernie, throw your hands up. And he replied, I will! And he put his hands up higher. It was fucking hilarious. He's like, I mean, what? He's awesome because he's like, everyone's so coached and shit.

And he's like, I'm so goddamn old. I'm not taking any coaching. I'm going to go up there. I'm going to yell. And that's what's going to happen. And it's just like, it's pretty fucking funny. He'll be like, yeah, no, college is free. And everyone should make $100,000 a year and all that crazy shit.

He really is like your grandpa who, like, you know how your grandparents spoil you and give you whatever the fuck you want? That's kind of what he's doing. Your grandparents, you want your grandkids to love them, so you just give them everything. He's doing the same thing. Free college. Free money. You'll vote for me, right? When he does, he's like, yeah, we just tax billionaires.

I'm like, that's cool. I'd rather be one of those. I feel like they're probably more powerful than you, and they're going to be upset about this. I can't believe. I mean, I guess he's never really going to win, but I can't believe someone hasn't killed Bernie Sanders yet. I can't believe some billionaire hasn't whacked him yet. Let's just get rid of this old man who's trying to steal our money. Who was the other one on stage last night who, like, tried to yell at Bernie?

And Bernie had, like, an all-time, like. Shut down? Yeah. One of the guys, like, he's like, I do know what's in that bill. You get free dentures, and you get, you will have, finally, the unions will have, they'll have medical care, they'll have glasses cared for. And this other guy's going, you don't know that, Bernie. You don't know that, Bernie. You don't know that, Bernie.

He goes, I do know that. I wrote the damn bill. It was like, the crowd was like, oh, shit. Maybe we're in on the debates, bro. I mean, this sounds pretty fun. There's probably like 12 other hours of boring shit. But you give me a highlight reel, I'll watch the debates all day long. Unlike The Bachelor highlights, I could not watch those.

I could watch the clips I saw from the debates when the crowd. Unlike The Bachelor highlights, I could not watch those. I could watch the clips I saw from the debates when the crowd was legitimate. It was like, and one stuff there. Like, right in the fucking shelter. It's like, I don't know. I wrote the damn bill. I'm so out on politics. I wonder if there's people like this

for this next election. I mean, like I said, I don't even think I'm registered. I i've never really been political but it's gotten so much of a joke that i am like i'm just i'm an anarchist i'm an anarchist i'm out on government i'm out on the whole thing like i can't even stomach the idea that we're gonna have to like like i'm you guys are bringing up how this is when trump started to make his run and i'm like oh i remember how much we covered that and talked about that and how much that was a thing. Like, I can't even fucking just fathom the thought of doing that again. I'm out on it.

Like a year and a half. That's so much fun. That's so long to do this for. No. I'm out. I'm moving to Canada! What else? One more topic on The Office. Taking a different turn. YP said tacos.

Is that not the perfect juxtaposition and slice of barstool? Let's talk to our well-spoken female veteran, the Democratic debates. Let's talk to a guy with a fucking fake made-up name with a chinchilla, tacos. I don't know. What do you guys have? It was Taco Tuesday yesterday. It was Taco Tuesday yesterday. Oh, yeah.

He was actually, he was like Instagramming himself eating tacos. Taco Tuesday. YP's brain comprehends, what did I have for my last meal? He's a goldfish. He's a goldfish. Something happened to me last night on Taco Tuesday, and I need to give an enormous shout out to postmates when i thought that i just thought that postmates could do no more for me in

my life i was ordering taco bell last night for taco tuesday to mock lebron james because i am racist and i never would have thought this if i went to taco bell and ordered a cheesy gordita crunch i just thought that the cheesy gordita crunch comes as is. When you order on Postmates, it offers you all the different options. You can change the shell to the nacho hard shell. So now I had a Dorito, not nacho, Dorito nacho cheese, the Doritos. So now I'm having a Dorito cheesy gordita crunch that I only knew was possible courtesy of Postmates.

These guys out there saving lives, huh? They're the best of the best. Whoever runs Postmates should be fucking president. And LeBron James Taco Tuesday is officially the most under-the-radar racist thing that has ever happened. Yeah, we talked about that a little bit

with Barstool Gold. This is a hell of a time to buy Barstool Gold because we have a bunch of them this week. One thing I learned is it's pretty much a masterpiece. It's being regarded as a sexually transmitted disease masterpiece. We got Dan back in the mix. Feidelberg's been

half-naked the whole time. A lot of different content. Barstoolgold.com slash KFC. But we talked about it with Dan. You can't run around mocking Mexicans. You just can't do it. I think that Mexicans have no choice but to allow African-Americans to mock them because Mexicans, as far as movies have taught me, have been allowed to say the N-word forever.

I think Asians are really the only ones who get jobbed out of being as being a minority and saying the n-word old asians and jews yeah the jews are minorities you know why but they also like run things you know what i mean so it's tough it's like numbers wise yes but influence wise they're not that's true you know and the asians are kind of the opposite there's so many of them but nobody cares no. No, yeah. Indians do. Indians really do. I actually read an article yesterday just about the Jeremy Lin thing, and it was like Jeremy Lin deserves to be in the league. It was like it was kind of almost comparing him to Kaepernick without going so –

like it wanted you to think of Kaepernick while in the article because it was. It was like he deserves to still be in the league and then it was like it was like uh there was like allusions to blackballing it's like not that thing is blackballing but you know if it was gonna happen to someone it would be him right and it's like I mean come on guys like the owners got together and they're like we can't let this yellow fella in the league yeah like what the fuck out of here how what's what What stand has he taken? What black ball would have happened? What has Jeremy Lin done? As a matter of fact, I really can't believe we're even here with Jeremy Lin.

I would sign him in a heartbeat so that Asian people like my team. He's the opposite Kaepernick. You're going to bring in a huge fucking bunch of jersey sales and tickets and all that shit. It's the opposite of black ball. He's white ball. He's yellow ball. Bring him the fuck in. All right, let's do some voicemails.

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like it could be a video game, like board game, rock-paper-scissors, shoot, sport, anything. What are you guys going with? Thanks, bye. I mean, we just did this last week. It was like, we're What are you guys going with? Thanks, bye. I mean, we just did this last week. It was like, we're not good at anything.

Right? Didn't we just determine that we don't have any skills or talent? I mean... I've also ran through this scenario, by the way. Much like when you're

laying in bed at night before you fall asleep and you're like, you know, you pretend you're on Jimmy Fallon and you pretend you are in the action hero movie.

Look, I'm a little bigger than Fallon in my dreams. What are you on, Kimmel? No, I'm a Colbert guy. Colbert? What are you talking about? Colbert's the number one. No. I'm on Fallon.

I don't need him interrupting my jokes all the time with his laughter. Let me have his Fallon. Colbert's not bigger than that. What are you talking about? It's just a definitive fact. No, but nobody's ever talking. The Colbert clip is not what goes viral. It's the Fallon clip, and it's the a definitive fact. No, but nobody's ever talking. The Colbert clip is not what goes viral. It's the Fallon clip, and it's the Kimmel clip.

Yes, fact. And the James Corden clip, to be honest. Colbert is the number one late night show. Maybe on television, but I have not been. That's where I want to be. No, but I'm saying. I'm dreaming of being on TV. Fine, I'm trying.

The bright lights. I'm going to live in the modern world where the digital matters more. I'm going on Fallon. I mean, Fallon plays Leno, right? Yes. And I think Leno was the number one. Like, what is, who has The Tonight Show? Fallon.

It's Fallon. The Stephen Colbert show is not. Colbert's The Tonight Show. He's the one. No. Late night, late show with Stephen Colbert. Yeah. Okay.. Colbert's The Tonight Show. He's the one he probably did. No. Late night, late show with Stephen Colbert. Yeah. Okay.

I'm going on The Tonight Show. Colbert replaced Letterman, who was bigger. He's bigger than Leno. Yes. No. What is happening? No, Leno was number one. Leno was like kicked out because he sucked so bad.

No, he retired and then they brought him right back Francesa style. No, they brought him back. Remember they fucked over Conan. He was like, I'm retiring. Conan can have it. And then he was back Francesa style. No, they brought him back. Remember they fucked over Conan. He was like, I'm retiring. Conan can have it. And then he was like, never mind. I'm coming right fucking back. Yeah, I do remember that. Tonight Show was Carson?

Yeah. And now it's Fallon? Yes. Tonight Show. Jimmy Fallon. There's no way anyone likes Jimmy Fallon better than the Colbert Show. I mean, I do. So, go fuck yourself. Anyway, my point was not even about the late night show that was just a little toss-in that we both do i've thought about being the action hero in the in the fucking movie where your family's like held hostage and i'm like we are fucked like it's a pretty quick action we're dead like yeah figure it out kids because daddy ain't. He ain't got shit on this.

But if we had to pick something, I mean, the only things I'm good at are, like, you know, not tangible, like, win-lose type things, like, you know, host a podcast or, like, be a dickhead on Twitter. You know, you're not going to like it. Thumb wrestle. Thumb wrestle? One, two, three, four, I declare a thumb war. Five, six, seven.

What are you doing? Who's got it? Who's got it? And the mics are down. And somebody's going to get very hurt. The elbows. I think the elbows are way too high. I can do this all day.

Oh, he's using his second hand. Battle Royale. One. Stop. Stop. Stop. I think the elbows are way too high. I can do the top ten. He's using his second hand. Battle Royale. One. No. I'm out. I'm out. All right.

That doesn't work. I'll tell you what I'm pretty good at is not losing at Thumb War. I'm not going to win at Thumb War. I got these little fucking baby hands. I couldn't even reach your fucking thumb. My thumb hurts when you're trying to reach your fucking thumb my wrist hurts uh i mean i would probably just have to leave it to a game of chance and be like i don't know winner takes all one-time rock paper scissors for my family's life hope for the best um i'm gassed yeah well i mean usually i find these things are easier.

I'm a pretty good arm wrestler. To pick. Yeah, like you just have strength at least. You got some pretty good strength. You should do the, I bet you could do like a good old one punch contest. Like you get to punch me once in the face, I get to punch you in the face. And I bet you're going to win that more often than not. I don't know, man.

I don't want to get punched in the face. Can you take a punch? I know you can throw one. Can you take one? Yeah, I can take a punch. Yeah. I think you should let someone punch you in your ugly face and then be like, now it's my turn.

And you would knock them out. And then you run away with your family. You don't think you could win a free throw contest with another average guy? Maybe. That would be pretty good. I definitely couldn't do that one. That would be pretty good. You couldn't.

But you don't think you could do something with hockey? Yeah, like something you did growing up. I mean, I know you guys are not like prime time athletes. Yeah, break my parents' garage windows. Yeah, you were very good at that. Super good at that one. Yeah, I mean, I would not like primetime athletes. Break my parents' garage windows. Yeah, you were very good at that. Super good at that one. Yeah, I mean, I would probably pick something basketball oriented. Honestly, you should do beer pong.

I don't know now. You won a beer pong tournament lefty. I know, but I feel like now. I did win that one. I got into the finals in a beer pong tournament playing lefty when I had shoulder surgery. There was a period of time I was playing obnoxious about a beer pong. I'm talking average people. If it's an average person.

I think I could beat them in pretty much every sport I played still. If it's an average person, I think I could do anything. If you're busy being a family kidnapping henchman, you haven't been practicing your hockey. Especially hockey where if you're on the ice, that guy, and he's not a hockey player, he's fucked. I would probably leave it to something like basketball where it's like, at least I've done this before for an extended period of time. I would do. I'd probably do rock, paper, scissors, shoot, though,

just because it's easier. But I mean, like, less exerting. Like, I don't know, man. You're looking at your kids. You're looking at him. You're going to do suicides. You're going to do some fucking Herbie's. Like, come on, guys.

Why'd you get kidnapped? This is kind of on you here, isn't it? This is going to make you... fucking Herbie's. Like, come on guys. Why'd you get kidnapped? Like, this is kind of on you here, isn't it? This is going to make you, I'm going to do, don't get kidnapped training now. Like every like Saturday,

we're going to sit down and be like, all right kids, because daddy can't save you in any feats of strife. I would do, I would do binge watch. Oh yeah. I could binge watch. I could,

I could beat the world in binge watch. I could binge watch you for sure. Yeah. Pop, pop on the office. Let's go. Pop on Sonny. Eventually the guy's like, just let him go. I can't do it anymore. Yeah. Pop on The Office. Let's go. Pop on Sonny. Eventually the guy's like, just let him go.

I can't do it anymore. We're on season seven. Just let the kids go. Probably just me laughing hysterically at Always Sonny. I'm just so sick of this guy fucking laughing. Yeah, definitely. Get everyone out of here. Definitely.

I have an abrasive laugh. I know that. What up, KFC Radio? So with Endgame officially past Avatar's highest grossing movie ever, my question is if the Marvel Cinematic Universe existed in real life and you got the chance to interview any one of the superheroes, what would be your top choices? I mean, let's take out Tony Stark.

They weren't allowed to hold anything back, any secret missions or anything. Tony Stark's out because that is such an unbelievable landslide and it's unbelievable because Iron Man stunk. What do you mean? Prior to Robert Downey Jr., Iron Man was never a cool superhero. Yo, have you seen

that, I forget whoever the writer of Iron Man is, showed up a. Yo, have you seen that, like, I forget whoever the writer of Iron Man is, like, showed up, like, a week before they started filming and just rewrote the whole script, and most of it's just Johnny Jr., like, improvising and stuff? Really? Like, the script was an absolute disaster. For, like, what, the first Avenger, you mean?

For Iron Man 1. Iron Man 1, yes. And it was, like, it was, like, a real bad, like, I think that was their first Marvel movie, right? Yeah, well, that was the one that popped at least. There might have been ones before that, but that was the big one. Yeah, it was the old Hulk one, I think. So Downey Jr. was like, this sucks.

I'll just do this myself sort of thing? It was like – I forget exactly what it was that happened. I've heard it's heavily influenced by him working off the script, but I don't think that's how they changed the storyline. I don't remember Tony Stark ever being like –, that's the thing. He came in. I don't remember Tony Stark ever being like basically what I think of Robert Downey Jr.

Like a snarky, funny kind of asshole. He was a hot guy, you know? He was more of just a straight asshole. Not like a charismatic asshole. He was like a hothead. People always had to

calm him down. Downey Jr.'s Tony Stark is like the exact embodiment of like what you try to be with a girl you know like you're an asshole but not too big of an asshole you're charismatic but you're whatever sarcastic and all that shit so all right we'll throw him out um um uh probably captain america captain america i feel like would have like like when he says like secret missions and shit like that. Yeah, well, he goes on to say Bucky Barnes because Bucky didn't get lost in the ice.

Sebastian, what's his name, with the robot arm? Yeah. Winter Soldier. The black guy? No. Sam Wilson. So he was around throughout history. So like if you just want conspiracy stuff.

Yeah, like he's not interesting, but he can tell you the stories. I get the most explosive one with Cap, because I'd be like, come on, dude, you're a racist, right? If he can't hold anything back and they have to tell the truth, come on, man. I know Sam Wilson's your boy, but you're from forever ago. The fucking chick you love died 40 years ago. That's how fucking old you are. You don't give a fuck. Come on.

You were like over there like, do we really need to save the Jews? I mean, if we're talking about like what Captain America is, do you want to embody America as a whole? The 1940s America? Come on. No, we saved the Jews, though. You know, like we really got the end of the day. You probably ask him what he thinks about, like, Japanese.

Yeah, that he's not going to like. Yeah, he's not going to like them at all. I think I'll go Thor because it's like talking to an alien, you know? Right? Yeah, and he's hot, the hottest one. I want to do Black Widow and be like, what are you doing here? Yeah, you have a gun. You are a regular person.

How did you get this gun? I want to interview Vision and be like, tell me one cool thing about you. One. One. That guy sucked. Vision, fuck out of here. Vision is like, I'm suicidal. That's pretty cool.

That's why I hang out with you. What up, KFC Radio? So I'm just sitting here wondering, if you could choose a reckless way to die, but it's guaranteed that your life would pick right back up from where you left off, what would your choice of death be? Jump into a tornado. For example, if you want to jump off the – I would jump right into a tornado. Just like run at it and –

I can't do that because I've guaranteed I would never die by a tornado just like run at it and i can't do that because i've guaranteed i would never die by a tornado yeah it's a pretty cool one but i've already made this guarantee wouldn't it be unbelievable if fights died in a tornado if i if i die a tornado like never let my spirit live that the all-time mush you fucking idiot you got got the chances of that are so slim how crazy was it like right after it happened like everybody died in tornadoes right no cape cod got hit by its first tornado like ever i was like my dad he's like he's like i don't ever remember tornado in massachusetts now granted hey god missed me but like he's pretty closer than it's ever been i i still don't think uh anybody enough people talked about you sneezing on the rundown the other day in the middle of a sneezing conversation.

That's incredible. That was incredible. Dan was just like, nah, you can't sneeze on command. It was like, what? Anybody else care about this? I'm really impressed by that. Yeah. Whatever the circumstances were, it wasn't just like someone said sneeze and you sneezed.

We were in-depth discussing sneezing, and you just fucking did it. I did it, yeah. It was incredible, man. Guy just seized the moment. Yeah, so how are you going to die? sneezing and you just fucking did it i did it yeah it's incredible man guy just he saved he just he sees the moment uh yeah so how are you gonna die shark attack i mean i'd probably i'd probably have to go out i shark attacks are pretty good because like because i'm assuming that you start your life over and you have like the experience and like if you could like tell the story of like and then the shark like bit my leg off and pulled me under and i felt myself start to drown and well it's all

pretty bleak and nasty and shit. It's like, whoa. The best story. What's the best story? I think I'd just jump out of a plane. I would jump off the Empire State Building. I would make sure I clear the landing so that I hit the street

and then everyone would know me. You'd make big time headlines if you just splat it on the... That's very hard though. Yeah, I would need like a... How big is the landing? It's like almost like a football field or some shit like that

because it goes out. Nobody reaches the street. You just hit like... Wait, how many people have jumped? Decent amount. Decent amount over the years. Really? And no one's ever made it?

I think one person did. It was like a windy day. Yeah, it takes like a crazy gust of wind. You have to get blown out into the street. Boy, that sounds fun. Yeah. But then you'd be like, I'm also picturing it. It'd be cool if you splat, you're dead.

And then it's just like, pop up. And you're like, I'm good. Don't worry about me, folks. Or maybe, oh, I got it. I got the answer answer i want to get killed by the nypd and i'm coming back to life and i'm suing your ass yeah police brutality is the answer and then i get to reap the benefits of my lawsuit winnings that's a great answer i want to be brutally murdered as an unarmed white man somehow i don't know if you can get money for that, but I'll find a way, and then I'm going to live and spend it. Oh, you know what?

I'd go fight a tiger or something. Ooh. But like – and then I would build it up my whole life. The only problem with that is like we often say like good for the tiger. I think you want a little sympathy death. No, but it would just be like a fist fight. I wouldn't like a sword fight. I got it.

Like with a bear. Pay-per-view. The bear wins. Yeah. But then you get the money when you come back to life. Yeah. It's like we got a big purse. Yeah.

Bam. And then always hyping up round two. Just like McGregor and Pacquiao. Or McGregor and Mayweather. Mayweather and Pacquiao. And then Dr. Real. No, I'd never do it. It would just be like, they might fight again.

They might fight again. Right. You get your 15 minutes extends into like 10 years of fame. Yeah. Because you're. I heard you've been talking shit, you fucking bear. What about you bet that you can do something, you fade yourself, you die. It's like, huh, yeah, you were right. I didn't die, but I'm back to life. And I bet my entire life savings on me not being able to survive a tornado.

But also, I mean, if I double my life savings. Yeah, I need to take out a loan. Yeah, I don't have to. It's not doing too great. Yeah, just like a little more comfortable. KFC fights BC. So we're all about hate, right? What's the dumbest thing that you have hated because of somebody else like people won't

buy a certain car because of you know an ex-girlfriend or something like that or you know like my buddy wouldn't buy shampoo because of his ex-girlfriend like what's the dumbest thing you have learned to hate because of somebody else because you hate that person. See you. Oh, God. It's a great question. I feel like there's a lot of people who are going to like a song was ruined and a breakup or like a TV show or a movie that we used to watch. It's going to be a lot of breakup type shit. I don't really have any of that.

That doesn't like. I have things that have been amplified like better. I've told you like Jesse McCartney leaving was like a breakup song. Yeah, yeah. See, the thing is I hate so frequently and so hard. It doesn't like impact me. It's just like I will never let someone determine what I hate. I only hate what I hate.

That really kind of is my answer because people always accuse us of that. You know what I mean? You're only saying you hate it because people don't hate it or you're only saying this because this person says it. And I always say like I that. You know what I mean? You're only saying you hate it because people don't hate it. Or you're only saying this because this person says it. And I always say, like, I promise you, I like what I like and I don't like what I don't like. And usually, you know, the don't like is a longer list. But I'm not doing it for any other reason than my good old dumbass heart. You know?

Yeah, I'm bad at faking things. Yeah. But this would be like it is ingrained in you. It is something that you genuinely hate because of another person. Oh, there's got to be something Yankees-oriented. I mean, like I'll never go to Yankee Stadium. I'll never enjoy that ballpark. I'll never go.

I think one of the reasons I hate drama is Gaz. I think I used to get so annoyed by it. By Gaz starting the product. I just don't care about anyone's drama. I don't care about any of the awkward yelling or that kind of content. The Bachelorette, like you talked about, even any fights at Barstool, I'm just like,

dude, I don't fucking care. And that probably stems from Gaz. I've never taken it this far, but I've found myself being like, I'm not going to go to that pizza place. Fuck that. John's of Pleaker Street? It's not that good. It's fine. It's all right. maybe pizza pizza dave almost ruined pizza yeah that's that's that's a tough one if he gets a little more famous

i'm out on pizza the uh lebron's dangerously close to making me hate tacos yeah i mean like dave kind of makes me like lebron's the opposite i'll tell you what it really is it's the mets the mets'll tell you what it really is. It's the Mets. The Mets have made me hate the Mets. I'm hating the Mets because of the Mets. Well, you hate the Mets because of the Wilpons. Yeah, the Wilpons.

Yes, yeah, right, right. I mean, how do you go acquire Marcus Stroman and act like you're going for it? Don't trade Wheeler, but don't bolster your team. Wheeler's absolutely gone. So you either trade him for pieces, or if you're going to keep him, that means you have to go for it in the next two months. And they did none of those things. At least the Red Sox didn't do anything

either. Dabrowski just said this team needs to play better. This is what I put out there. This team needs to be better. That's crazy, man. When the bullpen is such an exact problem, and relatively like... At least the Red Sox won like 110 games last year. You could be like, maybe... Yeah, but they lost their fucking setup man, and they're closer.

And their bullpen is the problem. Like anyone saying, people always say, it's the same team, it's the same team. You're not without a setup man and without a closer. Right. The relief is what fucks us. Right, so that's your problem. And I actually think that the relief is not the easiest thing to fix, because it's a crapshoot but it's the easiest thing to try to fix you can go get those arms right and maybe they could even like try an arm like not even like a major arm

but like all right that's what i mean like that you can pick up spare parts and maybe they suck just as much or maybe you catch lightning in a bottle but try fucking assholes everybody's an asshole baseball stupid stupid sport i'm gonna go be an e-gamer with fucking Rod. One more voicemail. Hey, KFC Fights, Supersonic Hedgehog, BC. That's a new one. Second time, long time. The girls and I are in Vegas, and we were just chatting about who we would want to fuck,

and you all came up. Hey! You guys are definite yes, by the way. But Dave Portnoy came up, and we feel like he might be a selfish lover. He seems like he's a bit of a douchebag. So we just wanted to get your thoughts on that. I mean, how did this make the cut, you sick fucks? I mean, I'm not discussing Dave Portnoy's sex life.

But I mean, he probably is selfish. Yeah, he's probably the worst ever. He's got to be terrible. Absolutely got to be the worst. Pretty nice of him to say it's us, though. Yeah, I'll take that. Extremely funny moment talking about bachelor parties in the blogger bullpen the other day. So we're talking about the differences between bachelor parties and bachelorette parties.

And one of the guys was like, yeah, your girl's on a bachelorette parties. And one of the guys was like, yeah, your girl's on a bachelorette party and she's going to go to the male strip club and there's probably going to be dicks flopping around everywhere. I wouldn't mind if a dick rubbed up against my girl's cheek. And another guy was like, what? You wouldn't care if some guy's dick was touching your girl's face and he was like bro are you kidding me on my bachelor party i'm gonna murder a chick

i can let a little dick slide okay like i'm serious i'm gonna fucking murder someone we're gonna have to hide a body and you're worried about someone's dick rubbing up against her fair is fair man and we're gonna have to dig a hole and bury a corpse okay it was so fucking funny throw someone in a lake we're gonna wake up next morning having a beer just be like man can you believe we buried someone alive last night? We really killed that chick, huh? She's fucking dead. Her family's going to be looking for her, huh? They got real dark and real specific.

A lot of the girls are horrified. It was a special moment. That's what goes on behind the scenes at Barstool. All right, let's get into these interviews today. A couple interesting cats. First, we're going to lead off with E-40, legendary rapper who has just released his 28th studio album. Solo official studio album.

Practice makes paper. An incredible, generous guest came through with a bottle of his own wine from his wineries. E-40 is a legend in the game for so many reasons. At the top of the list, though, is how many words and the slang and just the swagger that he's invented and the style that he's invented. So E40 with the KFC Radio Boys. Who saw that coming? Brought to you by No Bull. Time to demand more from your workout gear the way you demand more from yourself. No Bull.

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This right here is a blend. The blends are in, right? Oh, yeah. This is a Cabernet and a Zen all together, right? I get my grapes from Lodi and it's bottled in Napa. Look at this, man. I would never have thought. Yeah, man.

I really do it, man. I sell this stuff, man, everywhere like air, you know? Would you like to get a dose? I would love some, sir. Here we go. Double dose if you don't mind. Heavy hand on the pour. It's all good.

There you go. Ain't nothing wrong with that. I'm going to pass this over to you. Yes, sir. Thank you very much. Ain't nothing like red cups, drinking wine and red cups. It's like, you know, it says you're high society, but you're also, you know, easy to please. This is perfect.

This is just what I got. I just drank without cheers, and I'm sorry I was rude there. No, you got to wait. You got to wait. You got to wait, because I got to do my famous cheer that I do everywhere like every fucking I'm excited for this. Just so we're clear like every... Oh, I'm excited for this. Just so we're clear before we get going, I'm going to steal everything. Yeah.

You're very used to, but... There's no problem at all. I'll do it anyway. Everywhere like every... I want y'all to steal a lot of this. Listen, people have been stealing from you for a long time. You get a couple white boys in here, we're definitely going to steal your shit. It's all gravity, man.

Done. Write it down. Done. Wait, let's make sure we get on the mic. Make sure we say it loud and clear. Yeah, me too. Let me see. All right.

You on the mic? Yes, sir. All right, so here we go. I got this from my brother, Young Muggsy. I want to make sure Muggsy gets his dap. This is how I am. This is how I pay homage. Okay.

I am above you. I am below you. But I'm right beside you. My God. Cheers, players. Yay! This is already my favorite interview Cheers, players. Cheers. Yay! It's already my favorite interview ever, man.

Hello. It's tasty. That Earl Stevens. It's tasty and you know what? It is like, it's different. It's something I really haven't, not like I'm a big, you know, wine connoisseur. No, I am but I just don't know

what the fuck I'm talking about. You know, I just enjoy it but it's something I haven't really tasted before. That's incredible. This is exactly how I need to say it. By the way, you have now set the bar extremely high for guests. The next guy who comes in without wine, I'm going to be like, fuck you, man. They better come in with something, huh?

You can't come empty-handed. Nah, don't do it like that. You are a very interesting dude, man. I mean, and this shouldn't be a surprise because i feel like you are one of the ultimate hustlers you've had your hand in all sorts of business but even with your music like the the slang you've invented the styles you you change the like the way you put the bay area on the map it it shouldn't be a surprise that you can do it all yes sir um you know just uh being the oldest of four i was the the oldest of I had a brother that's two years under me,

which is my brother, D. And my sister, four years under me. And then my other brother that I got that cheer from that I just said. He's yeah, he's all of us are two years apart. And, you know, when you're the oldest, you got to learn quick. You don't have nobody to teach you everything, especially when, you know, there's not a male figure in the house. And it was just me. So I had to figure things out on the streets and figure things out, you know, being in the household and just learn things and just pay attention. So I knew I grew up quick.

So when I was like 17, I felt like I was a grown ass man. I graduated when I was 17 from from from Hogan High School in Vallejo. And the reason I graduated when I was 17 didn't have nothing to do with me being hella smart. It was just my birthday fell on the right day. Yeah, that's why I stayed back, too. It was just a birthday thing.

Birthday! So I was 17. When I graduated from high school, I was like, I'm a grown-ass man. You do seem like a smart cat, though. I mean, you can't have your hand in all these things and have a successful career without having some smarts. Don't sell yourself short. No, definitely not. I wasn't like 4.0.

I was like 2. something. You know what I mean? You got the job done? I got the job done. I was more of an entertainer. Got a lot of diamonds on you right now. I think you ended up just fine. I think I can't, I don't regret any of it because, you know, sometimes

you can be smart and don't know how to work your smarts. You know, I was smart in other ways, you know, like I was a hustler, man, and I knew watching my mom, you know, work three jobs, you know, I used to wash walls with her at the naval houses on Mare Island

and, you know, washing walls would save you a paint job, you know. You know, she just had three jobs. I used to wash walls with her at the naval houses on Mare Island. Washing walls would save you a paint job. She just had side jobs just to bring in Mr. Jimmy's. Remember Mr. Jimmy's kid? Mr. Jimmy's right around the corner in the hills. I used to have to do things that was kind of embarrassing for a guy

to do. I swallowed my pride. What was the most embarrassing? We had a little tab for a guy to do. So I swallowed my pride. So my mom might have me go. What's the most embarrassing? Just going down there, you know, because we had a little tab where we could put stuff on credit. My mama would pay every month. So she would have me go get some bread.

Some bread. That wasn't embarrassing. Instead of mayonnaise, we'd get sandwich spread. I don't know why she had me get sandwich spread. Spread, sandwich spread. You don't know what that is? I don't know what that is. It's called, right? Spread, sandwich spread. You don't know what that is? I don't know what it is. It's called sandwich spread, bro.

You know what sandwich spread is? And I don't know why. I'm like, is that a little cheaper than the mayonnaise? I'm like, what, a couple of dimes off? Like, you know what I'm saying? So, like, but the embarrassing part was, you know, getting feminine products. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's always the worst.

I'm still too scared. We don't have to go through all the saying. You know what I'm saying? But I do it. You know what I'm saying? Got it do it. You know what I'm saying? It's got to be a mark. It was my mark. And I last laughed.

Anybody that was a sucker that was laughing at me when I did it, I get the last laugh. Because look at me now. You hear what I'm saying? Speaking of swallowing your pride and things like that, I'm going to have to demand an apology from you in the Bay Area. Oh, yeah. You put my friend in a coma. Who?

He fell off the car, ghost riding the whip. Who did that? For real? Yeah. We got a call. We were at the beach one day. It's like, hey, Sean fell off the car. Oh, man.

Cracked his skull. Damn. That's blood on your hands, E. Did he die? No, no, no. I wouldn't be laughing if he died. I was like, oh, my. Oh, you cold, bro.

He cold. Hey, look, man. I didn't make that up, but I'm not going to lie. I didn't make that up. Ghost ride the whip. I can't put this on Mac Dre either because people are grown. They're going to do what they want to do. Everybody wants credit for certain things until there's a coma, and then it's like, no, it wasn't me.

No, I didn't invent that. No, no, no. All I said was ghost ride the whip. Actually, I was narrating what the Bay Area does. I wasn't trying to be the guy that's – I don't ghost ride the whip. We're not in the court of law. You're fine. Don't worry.

No, for real. I mean, so much of the stuff that you have said and done has caught on. What do you attribute to – there's such a fine line between if you start using your own slang and using your own words people are going to go one or two ways they're going to say i don't know what that means i don't fucking care or i don't know what that means but i want to figure it out because i want to be in on it and it seems it seems like everything you have ever said or come up with everybody wants to be in on it is it just like you think you come up with cool words?

Why do people gravitate towards what you say? Let me wake your game up about the tardy and the people that need to be tutored. They're truant and they're late like Christmas freight. Okay? You know what I mean? Holiday freight. You know what I'm saying? Because what it is, they game goofy.

So a lot of the things I say, they be like it sound like that e40 language you just be making up words now it'd be real shit i'd be talking bro like the words i say be real soil shit like it's i make up words but it all means something it really has a meaning to it and everything you know and a lot of words i say i don't actually make it up it's just being around like y'all y'all got words from just being around your folks, right? And your upbringing around your region and whatnot. That's what it is with me. I just so happen to be a rapper

that speaks my region talk. But you're the one who's, like, it originates with you. You know what I mean? I'm a character. Like, I'm very creative. And yes, I do make up a lot of words. And I also coined a lot of words as a rapper, like the first one saying

a lot of words as a rapper. And it can actually be you know, as a rapper on wax, saying it actually on tape and CDs and on a record. Do you find yourself trying to do this or it just comes

naturally? Nah, it's natural like an afro, bro. See, that's what I mean. Natural like an afro, bro. So, all right, I'm going to run through a couple things, a couple phrases. It's organic like the planet, man. I heard you recently on Nick Cannon put up a clip from his podcast. That's my guy. And now he was saying he gave you credit for inventing the phrase, it's all good.

Is that true? Well. Because you kind of were just like, I saw the clip and you were happy for inventing the phrase, it's all good. Is that true? Well. Because you kind of were just like, I saw the clip and you were happy to be like, okay, it's fine. But that seems like such a generic phrase that like. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, no, no, no. I was the rapper that made it popular before you hear a lot of the rappers saying it. No one was saying it, you know.

It's all good. You feel me, it's all good. Yeah good you feel me it's all good yeah you feel me was another one that's pretty yeah then i turned it into you smell me yeah i can go on and on and on and on and on and on and on forever but i don't even really be tripping it's just people just know that i you know um i i had i got the gift to spit man and you know i you know that's what we do in the bay or we We crafty with our wordplay. And it ain't just me. There's a whole bunch of cats you run to that say we talk slick.

You know what I'm saying? We know if we're talking real slick in the Bay. What's your number one phrase that you're proud of, let's say? I don't even know. Cap and save a hoe? Cap and save a hoe. That's got to be up there on the list, right? Every rapper that says something about cap and save a hoe. Every that made a phrase or, I mean, a reference in their lyrics,

whether it's cuffing or whatever, whatever they want to call it, that has something to do with Captain Saboho. That's got to be you. Every rapper. Popo and Captain Saboho have to be pretty high on the list. Yep. 97, probably 97% of the rappers have said Captain Sabre host some type of way. Now, was Captain Sabre host pre or post Captain Stabin?

You familiar with Captain Stabin? Nah, Captain Stabin, nah. What was that? Captain Stabin was a porn website. Yeah, maybe you can do that later tonight. You can go check that out yourself. He's a little later in the game, I think. Yeah, because Stabin means because stabbing means fucking, right?

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. He probably came around after that because Captain Sabo came out in 93. Oh, fuck yeah. Captain Saban, he's mid-2000s. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's too new. He was probably thinking of E4.

I also, I just, you know know just doing a little research before we popped in here I stumbled on this story about the fake the fake concert in Sacramento with Biggie which is

I feel like one of the most I was so I mean I'm a pretty big rap fan from that time and I had never heard this story I mean that's a

that's a hip hop legend that's a hip hop tall tale that's wild so check this out so check this out we're drinking, right? Mm-hmm. We are.

And I like y'all a lot already, right? But every time my album come out and I go do my rhymes and all this, they bring that subject up. Oh, we don't have to talk. Something that I never, ever even brought up. Everybody else brought it up. His security brought that up. I've explained this situation so many times. I'd rather just bypass it like the surgeon.

That's fine. All good, man. I just never heard of that. You know what I mean? Because my fans be like, why you always got to bring that up? Man, I don't even want to talk about that. Let's talk about me and the album and what I got going on for me. I don't care about none of that.

Practice makes paper. Practice makes paper. 27th album? 28th album? Probably 28th album. 28th. That's an incredible career. And that's Practice makes paper. Practice makes paper, man. 27th album? 28th album? Probably 28th album. 28th. That's an incredible career. That's solo bolo.

That's solo bolo. That ain't got nothing to do with the EPs and whatnot. I mean, that's some prolific shit right there. Many moons, man. They're all official albums. Yeah. How do you have that much to say? How do you have that much to say?

Like, I talk like five words in a day, and I'm like, that was way too much. I don't want to say that much. It ain't easy. It's about brainstorming. It's an occupation, and it's something that I love to do. I love to do music. I love to rap. I first listened to rap in 1979 when I heard the Sugarhill Gang. I was in. When I heard Rapper's Delight

by the Sugarhill Gang, first rap I ever heard being out there on the West Coast, man, I was in. I'm locked in. I'm like, man, man i'm gonna be a rapper one day uh seventh grade man you feel me so i just take it serious man and did you start writing then yeah i would i would recite some of the you know some of the older uh rappers like you know um melly mail grandmaster flash and the furious five uh you of course, we all knew the words to Rapper's Delight and, you know, people like that, you know, Run DMC and all them. I grew up on all them, you know.

You ever think if you— LL Cool J and them and— If you was born in a different time or lived in a different era, because rap is the biggest income of genre of music right now. Really? Yeah, yeah, man. I always think pop would be, no? To my calculations, I think that rap is it. Rap has surpassed everything pretty much

Because you got to realize a lot of the people that went against rap They're older and with their grandchildren even in the suburbs their grandchildren and their children All their kids and all they grew up on rap music So the suburbs gonna listen to what the confirmation is the confirmation is the ghetto The ghetto give you the confirmation of who's the one to check for, who the one you should be bumping in your car. You don't see the suburbs twerking and stuff like that. Yeah, the ghost riding whips fucking cracking their skulls.

You don't see them fucking it up like that. You know what I'm saying? What do you think about British rap? I feel like rap's now kind of – It's worldwide now. Right? That's more of a recent thing. We were talking about that British rap.

It all come from the United States, man. They highly influence. When I hear that accent, it's just like it's... And they be with the shit, too. They serious as a motherfucker. It's just a strange thing to hear that on a record. They serious with it. They got their own slang.

They got their own... You got to realize, every soil, every state, it's always somebody that's with the shit. I don't give a fuck what it is. They with it. I don't give a fuck what color, what size, shape. Somebody that's down is always with it. Let's bring it on. You know what I mean?

So, you know, they got their ghettos out there, too. You know what I'm saying? Everything ain't they got their ghettos out there too you know what I'm saying everything ain't all watered down and out of the country speaking out of the country you have me A$AP Ferg's on this song

what do you think about Rocky over there oh man Rocky in a bad situation cause it's like it's messed up cause you know he didn't wanna

he didn't wanna have no problems you know with them dudes man they kept on they kept heckling him man

you know and he did I gotta be honest what he did with something I would've problems with them dudes, man. They kept heckling me, man. I got to be honest with you, he did something I would have fucked around and did. They just heckle you and make you lose your temper. I think a lot of people in that position would do what he did.

He didn't want no problems. He was like, man, look, y'all, I'm telling y'all, I don't want to do... He's trying to get me in trouble, whoop, whoop, and they kept that dude, man. I feel like anybody who's being honest with themselves realizes that what he did... Almost anybody in that position would react the same way.

Definitely. Free Rocky. Definitely. Free A$AP Rocky, man. Is it between... I think Future's bodyguard yesterday got knocked out? That was fucked up. I just seen the clip. I got to get into it because I've been doing press. I didn't even really know what's going on.

The sucker punch of all sucker punches, man. Ran up from behind, clocks him in the side of the head, and then they're like throwing a party, celebrating. But what was it for? I honestly think it was just for bragging rights bullshit. Because the guy filming it, they were just so proud of themselves. They were calling him out. You ever heard of karma? Yeah, I hope it comes in a bad way for those guys.

And it'll come in a different way, too. It's karma, fool. Is that something that's on your mind often when you're out or when you're at a show or anything like that? Are you often thinking that this might go wrong, or you just put that out of your mind? It's happened back to back, you know, it could be recency bias in this question, but is it something that weighs on you ever? Just always being alert and just, yeah,

knowing that anything can happen. Yeah, we always try to be alert and, you know, we believe in the creator. We stay prayed us. We ask God to put the blood of Jesus around us and our family at home and, you know, hope that, you know, we have a successful day and continue to move on you know but uh when you have to defend yourself you just got to defend yourself like you said man you're the man of the house right you learned early sometimes you gotta take

things in your own hands yes sir i feel like in addition to uh you know one of your calling cards being the the slang and the lingo i feel like the glasses is is such an iconic look for you you always like the square ass look i mean it's i'm sure i'm sure at some point i'm sure at some point it was like uh it was kind of funny to see right like you're a rapper but you're wearing glasses now it's i feel like it's much more common but i mean it's it's always been your look have you ever did you do that on purpose or was it just like you wear eyeglasses? It was on purpose. But look, so it was like a double entendre. It was like something that I did on purpose in the streets, you know, wiggling through the traffic, you know what I'm saying?

Me doing my duties, right? In the 80s. I got you. VR, before rap. Yep. Right? And then it was also a look at some of the Bay Area rappers and not rappers Bay Area

civilians dudes from the soil in different areas from Richmond and Oakland and Vallejo and all that. We looked this

you know it was one of the looks. We have the Kangol hat the sniper you know the perms you know what I mean some old curls some finger waves

stuff like that. And it was just a look that we had. You know what I'm saying? Unfortunately, we didn't have phones in our hand where we could record all these things that everybody else. They're lucky because our shit was player. We had so much player shit going on back then. You know what I'm saying? So we would catch a few Polaroids here and there.

You know what I'm saying? Some of them got stolen in the past and shit like that in the photo albums. But, you know. When you compare old to new, like from style to the music to just the rappers in general, what is kind of what's your vibe on that? Do you think that like old school? Myself, I'm like old is always better. They don't make them like they used to. I'm very nostalgic.

But also, I'm also kind of the old guy who's not adapting to the new ways. You know what I mean? Where do you fall on that? It's kind of like you, what you're saying. You know, you have to adapt to the new ways too, the way they get out. But at the same time, I really do feel that the flows of the old wasn't all the way there. Not me, because I was 30 years, 40 years ahead of my time. So I'm a different species.

I'm a different pedigree. I'm a different make. You know what I'm saying? Rare like a steak, you know? One of one for real. Do you think that's a necessary aspect of fame is to be rare like that? We had cube in here the other day we've had uh a few other rappers i think action bronce was in here and it seems to

be a common theme where it's like i'm just ahead of my time i was always ahead of my it's the truth yeah cube was ahead of the cube one of my favorite rappers of all he's a goat he's one of the goats for sure especially uh mount rushmore of West Coast. Just know that. Because people don't realize the stuff that man used to say. He used to spit that hustling music. We kind of tried to, like, slowly bring it up with him. He was throwing big three, you know. He's all corporate.

Yeah, but he used to spit that shit. Don't let him get it through. That boy say the boy, what that boy say? The homie got popped. He's a gone a black St. Louis niggas want their car on the back. Like, it was so much game involved in the shit he was spitting. Like, he was cute, man. Come on, man.

NWA, they always on it, man. Ice-T now, you know what I'm saying? Tidy-T, the bat around. Ice-T, you want to Be a High Roller, all them dudes was ahead of their time. We was all storytellers. Like a lot of the stuff we talk about, we was storytelling. Now it's more like bar for bar, which is good too.

We did that too. It's good to do that, metaphors and whatnot, punchlines. You know what I'm saying? That's good. Do you think that has to do with? Mix that in with some storytelling. You got a great emcee. Hello. Do you think think that the the bar for bar competition you're talking about there was do you think that's like a product of our generation where it's shorter attention spans

where everything's got to be like be able to fit in a tweet where people don't have time to listen to a story they don't hear like that album man i feel like albums skits and interludes and they got short attention spans now they really do they got short tension spans so that's why you got to stay consistent uh with your music you can't kick back and just do one album and just kick back for a whole two years a year and a half or whatever or more i know some cats that wait three four years to drop out and be like yeah you know i'm back in the studio like bro you know your time you fucking your shit off you gotta be consistent, man. You got to put two or three albums out or something, man.

You got to stay. I'm talking about a year. Like, you got to stay in their face because they don't have the patience they used to have. They got short attention spans. So what was new last month can be old to them this month. Is that something you factor in when writing? Yeah, man. That's what I do.

And I try to be way ahead of my time with it. And I try to stay consistent. That's why I put out so many albums and music because I love doing it. It ain't because of that. It has something to do with that, but I just love doing music. Even when I'm on vacation, I can be on a vacation somewhere in the tropicals for two weeks. And somehow I find a studio out there. And I say, babe, you coming with me?

Me and my wifey? I say, you coming with me? Me and my wifey? I say, you coming with me? I just got to get in there one day and see you rock and roll with me. You know what I'm saying? I just love music, man. I mean, you think you're ever going to stop? Man, I... Again, because rap is, like I said, a relatively new genre,

and unfortunately so many of the greats were taken away early. And so there's only a few of you who really have had the longevity. It's like we're seeing for the first time ever what a rapper's doing when he's 50, when he's 60. Are you just going to keep going? Who else is 50? Well, no, I don't know exact ages, but I'm thinking like Jay, Dre. Jay's 48. Jay's 48?

Are you the only 50? How old's Dre? Wait, no, Jay is 59. Oh,, but I'm thinking like Jay, Dre. Jay's 48. Jay's 48? Are you the only 50-year-old? How old's Dre? Wait, no. Jay is 59. Oh, okay. I'm 51. 51. He's two years younger than me.

He in December. I'm in November. Jay dope as fuck, right? That's my guy. And I know he know I'm dope as fuck, too, because we cut from the same cloth. We from that 80s era, man. They don't make them like us, man. We rare, for real.

But anyway, to make a long story short, I just think that there ain't no age limit to rap. I think that you can't put no expiration date on it because there's never been a rapper that has rapped and been relevant in their 50s. You feel me? Right. You know?

It's interesting to see as the subject matter changes too, right? Yeah. So much when you're younger, you're talking about before rap, or then you're talking about making your money and partying and girls. But now, like, you're a 50-year-old, you're a businessman, you're watching culture change. Mix it up. Right.

You got to mix it up. You got to mix it up. You have to analyze the game, and you got to turn with the times, or the times are going to turn with you. And as you change with the times, you got to do it within your jurisdiction and don't go too far out your envelope. You got to do it where they accept you, and they know you're not doing extra to try to go way out your element.

You know what I'm saying? It's a method to it, and I've mastered it. I think to say the least, man. In real life. To say the least. man. In real life. To say the least. Hello. Cheers to that.

Cheers to 28 albums. 28 hours, man. 31 years in the game with music on the shelf. We got to ask you, you and Guy Fieri are tight, right? What is about Guy that everyone loves? We had Edelman in here the other day.

Edelman loves him. I feel like that guy is... He's like the slang master, too, of food. Yeah. And also, you know, he's just a character that knows his stuff. Old school, but new school. You know, keep the spike hair, you know what I'm saying? Make yourself look fresh and everything.

Got jewelry and all that good stuff. Rock with me at the Warriors game. That's my part, and I rock with guys. Dude, it's crazy with him. Like you said, we had Edelman in here the Warriors game. That's my partner. I rock with Guy. Dude, it's crazy with him. Like I said, we had Edelman in here the other day. That's a California boy, obviously. And then we had Matthew McConaughey gave him his star. He's like –

He came to our Super Bowl party. And there was some names at that Super Bowl party. But nobody turned heads like Guy. Yeah. Like we were major athletes, major entertainers. But people were like, that's Guy Fieri. He is unique. He's the coolest dude, man. He's cool.

You know what's beautiful about it? We're from the same soil. He's from Santa Rosa, I believe. I love soil, by the way. You know what I'm saying? I'm from Vallejo, and we both are from the 707. Can you say 707 backwards? I had to think about it, but yeah, I got it.

707. There you go. Speaking of that area, what's good with your Warriors here? Oh, man, we're going to be okay. You think so? Yeah, I think basketball is going to be great this year coming up, because I think it's not super teams, but a lot of teams got great players on there. First time it's been like this in 30 years.

In 30 years. I mean, every team got – There's always been a super team. Most of the teams – I think every team except for – who was that? Not the Knicks. The Knicks, is they the only team that – that's what everybody been saying. It's the Knicks player, right? Do they got anybody on there?

Did you do that on purpose? Why did – no, no. I'm just trying to figure out why they didn't put like the Knicks. Like, is that Spike Lee team? Yes. The problem is the owner. Why didn't they pick some good people? I'm not saying no disrespect to the Knicks, man.

Shut up. Wait, wait, let me say this. I don't want them thinking I'm clowning. Look, bro, I ain't mad at nothing. You know, at least get a couple of players that everybody's screaming their name. Just being rude. Just being rude. I'm just trying to figure out why.

You're on my soil, okay? You're on my soil you're talking shit about i really want everybody to have great players on their team and i'm not saying the next one it's just like some standout but hey they might surprise everybody you understand me they might the world might end too they're the ones you never know nobody's nobody's surprising just saying why they didn't why they didn't nobody wants to come here because the problem is the owner of the of the next James Dolan. I've been hearing about that, too.

Is that the dude who kicked... Charles Oakley. How can you do that? Didn't he play for the... Man, that's crazy. That's what we said before the interview. James Dolan accused Charles Oakley of being an alcoholic. And Oakley's reply was,

I'm not an alcoholic, I just drink wine all the time. Yeah, ain't nothing wrong with that. Send a case of Earl Stevens. I'm going to take care of you, trust and believe. Well, we really appreciate you coming through, man. It's an incredible career you put together. Thank you. And I got to tell you, you know, there's just certain lines in all songs,

but specifically in rap music, that always stick with you. And I think for, I don't know, maybe like 25 years now, I've been saying to myself, nuclear weapons should be stopping over and over. I don't know why you said it. You have to blow the world up a thousand times. When you said nuclear weapons, I literally said that to myself every day of my life.

So thank you for that, bro. Right on, buddy. Right on. And so go get the album, Practice Makes Paper. Get yourself some Earl Stevens. Get some red bread. Earl Stevens, by the way, makes a great cameo.

I got to bring y'all my tequila up here. Ecuador tequila straight from Jalisco, Mexico. Let's go. That's my shit. Repo, and they are Amplaco.

I'm going to take care of y'all. Trust and believe. I need that. Mailing address. That's my man. Yeah, we'll get that. Y'all going to be in this motherfucker perking. Thank you, dude.

Thank you so much. Much love, man. For real, for real. So that's officially my brand is asking rappers uncomfortable questions. I think I'm just going to lean into it now. One time was scary. Two times is like, I can't believe it's happening again. Next time we have a rapper on, I'm digging up a question and be like, so I heard your

grandmother died yesterday. What'd you think of that? I'm leaning into that. Oh, you got divorced. Tell me about that one. How about that, uh, did that rapper shoot you that one time? What'd you think of that? I think I want to do a fucking wall. Yeah, he's a good dude. He's a cool cat.

Anybody who comes in here drinking, teaching us, uh, salutes and shit. He did say he wasn't going to fuck. He said he was going to follow us right back. Still waiting on that E40 Instagram follow. Yeah, I don't think that's coming, John. Shout out E40. Tell him, follow me.

Give me the sound one more time. Ooh. All right, now it's time to talk to the man that is being called the Adam Schefter of e-sports, uh, Rod Breslow. Uh, you know,

I'm on Twitter and all over the internet as slasher. He is like the number one, uh, e-sports consultant in the world. And he's going to school us on the, the world of video games and keep us up to date since we are old and out of touch in that department. So Rod slasher is brought to you by Brooklinen.

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We're talking video games with Slasher. Let's go. All right, let's get into it. It's KFC Radio featuring... A Bible? A no Bible? Someone's journal? Listen, that's...

Someone leave someone's personal shit. I'm a journalist, you know, there's some important bloggers around here. I actually do reporting. So you don't want to leave this type of shit. I'm looking if you look at the Twitter account for Slasher here, Rod's in the building Slasher. It says the world's number one e-sports consultant, which sounds completely made up.

Definitely not. There's no way that would be the case. I'm going to go ahead and say self-proclaimed number one esports consultant, which sounds completely made up. Definitely not. There's no way that would be the case. I'm going to go ahead and say self-proclaimed number one. Possible. Yeah, esports consultant. But if you say it enough times and met enough mainstream media outlets, just take what you have on your Twitter profile and listen to you directly, and then repeat that in enough articles, it becomes true.

That's pretty smart. That's right. We should just keep saying number one podcast in the world until people fucking believe it. Yeah. So when you do a write-up of this show, you will prompt someone. I will make the editor there, whoever writes this blog. Maybe it will be you this time, and you're going to write number one, number one, e-sports consultant.

And that goes into Google SEO, and then it continues to go on. If you guys need any help, I'm also a social media consultant. I can help you guys with this show right here, no problem. I'm already impressed. Yeah, you already won us over. We're skeptical on the esports world. We're not gamers. Don't let me in with you.

I'm not a gamer, but I'm not skeptical. Fine, I'll be the skeptic. It's official. It's here. I'm 34. It's too late for me, right? I'm 33, and I'm still pretty good, but you stuck,

you stuck with it, right? Yeah. I've been playing games for, so I think the number one, if you don't use it, you lose it thing in the world is video games. Uh,

maybe like, maybe, or maybe like actual like athletic sports. Has anyone seen KFC like a basketball or like football or anything? I can't run. I can stay stationary and do things can't run that maybe maybe physical activity you lose more but i pick up video games now and it's like no i i think it's i totally disagree i think like if i get a bad cage i can

still hit a baseball i can still throw a baseball i can still catch a football i i got madden 15, 16 maybe. And I hadn't had a video game system in a while. I got Xbox One. I got – because the new Call of Duty is coming out or something like that. I didn't play any of that shit. I got Xbox One. I got Madden. I did not make it through one quarter of a football game Madden before. I said, you know what?

Fuck it. Download Netflix. I can't do this. It seems like something. I mean I used to love it playing. I mean up until like – I mean a long time ago, like Nintendo 64 was the last one I really loved. But it was my whole childhood. Loved it.

And then it's just like it's foreign to me. It's like I never played it all. If I pick it up now, it's wild. Yeah, I mean, I've been playing games ever since I was a kid. And I was also involved in like, you know, traditional sports. I played pretty much every sport growing up. I dislocated my knee playing basketball when I was in high school. And my knee's been fucked up pretty much since then.

You're done, right? And I mean, I'm already like, you know, skinny white guy like everyone else's works at this company. And, you know, so me playing basketball was never going to be like a real thing. Not that I was trying to go prayer or anything. Right. But I did spend, because I was already playing games, I put that energy into playing online games. At the same time, I grew up here in New York City, in Manhattan, so I had a best friend who went to PS1 99 on the Upper West Side with me. We knew each other for a long time.

Back then, Warcraft 2 just came out. I was also playing Doom 1 and Doom 2 at his house. We each had a really old computer. I had a Mac 2 CE as well back then and we played games and then one day when Warcraft 2 came out he got Warcraft 2 and I got Warcraft 2 and we were

able to play against each other through TCP IPs. When we had modems that were 56k, modems that were 28.8k and 28.8 you poor man. These are the old days. These are the old days. You know what that is? Oh yeah. See I remember 28.8k. 28.8, you're poor, man. These are the old days. These are the old days.

You know what that is? Oh, yeah. See, I remember that from downloading music and downloading porn. I remember T1 and T3. If you got T1 and T3, and then 56k was kind of your standard, and then half of that is 28.8. I was like, oh, 28.8 is going to take me hours to download this porn. Days, maybe. Just to quickly finish, right? So I ended up playing against him online through this game.

And ever since that moment, I knew my passion was going to be competing against other people in video games. And this was 1998 or so. And this was, like, really back then. But I knew because I had played games all my life, and it was like a competition for me to how quickly I can rent the game from Blockbuster and beat the game and then return it without me having to pay for any video games. So playing the artificial intelligence, which is traditionally how video games are, was too easy, and I realized playing another person is always going to be a different experience, and that is truly what is like I loved, and then I've been doing that ever since.

But now has this, obviously maybe you wouldn't be as, is there a part of you or a part of older people, you've obviously made a career out of it so you wouldn't feel it, but that is almost resentful that it took so long for gaming to get here. Where it got the ESPN coverage, gets on TV,

like the buddy you played with, I don't know if he's the number two consultant. I could see being like where the fuck was like this popularity when I could really do something yeah are you a video game hipster I mean yeah for the most part for the most part I have some older friends in the industry that definitely age me and age all of us a little bit like that friend back then he's done his own life he's a lawyer now doesn't play video games at all he's just like a friend that I had I really stuck with it and you know part of my love for competitive gaming esports was to make it mainstream like that was always

a goal that i had in mind i was the founding editor of espn esports and the founding editor of cbs interactives uh esports um initiatives and get some announcements soon too and like i've always trying to push the envelope not just for me as like my career or whatever but to grow esports in our entire community towards the mainstream i was never one of that person like i only want my cool thing to be for me none of you could like it i also cover the metal punk community so i get i get that shit a lot yeah i wanted more people to play games i like other people coming in and you know experiencing what i did you ever anticipate this i mean maybe you probably did right you might have been one of the people who thought like no this one day is going to be what

it is but i feel like the general vibe is like can you believe three million dollars to this kid can you believe it's on my tv can you believe can you believe can you believe did you believe it i mean you know i've been able to watch a competition through counter-strike with a hundred thousand people in 2000 and like i could i felt like this is always going to be a big deal later. But I don't think I expected there to be a $100 million prize pool in 2019 for one game, just one of the 20 games that are going on, and that the winners would be playing for $30 million at a tournament. No, I didn't really expect for us to get this far.

Those numbers are staggering. That's just one other game. There's another game called dota and they actually beat the fortnite prize bowl their finals are going to be in shanghai in three weeks it's already at a 31 million and it's um how does that money get raised yeah so they get that money so epic uh epic because they make so much money with fortnite like there were reports a few months ago at the peak they were making 100 million dollars a month off of one of the platforms they're on pc and both consoles and all the phones so all together and that's all in-game purchasing and shit because like the game itself is just free to download right and then it's all you buy skins you buy upgrades

buy whatever so the game itself is free yet they're making 100 million a month on it yeah and so they can they can like 100 given given 100 million dollars for prize money is like a big deal in general but for them it's like it's like a month of yeah so so that that prize money is just put up by the developer of fortnite yes but in contrast valve who runs counter-strike and dota they have a very different way of going about uh running this they have steam they own steam that's how really they make all of their money in general uh they made a base prize pool of two million dollars and they gave out a thing called this battle pass so they give you exclusive skins and exclusive items and data and stats and all this really cool shit if you pay them a fee and part of the fee goes into the prize pool so valve has already made 75 million dollars in the last two months and they've raised the prize pool so valve has already made 75 million dollars in the last two months and they've raised

the prize pool from 1.6 million to over 31 million by the time we get in the next three weeks the finals will probably have about 35 million dollars in prize money for just the international not not to mention there's an entire circuit and it's like every year and it keeps growing um so it's almost like uh open bar versus uh paying for drinks as you go Yeah Kind of like One guy you can pay up front You get everything But you're going to take a piece of that And make a prize money

The other one is just Everything you're buying It just keeps adding up Yeah And then they redistribute it Through a tournament or whatever Yeah like The different developers

Had different ideologies On how they want to go About like the business model But either way The gamers are making fucking money Oh yes Yes They're making money

What would you say the age Like like I know 16 was Buga? Yes. Buga. He, like, in professional sports, in traditional professional sports, it's like, you know, 24 to 30 if you're really good, 32. Like, that's your prime. What is it in gaming? Like, do we know that yet?

We don't. Who came in second place? How old was second place? Second place was 24. Actually, he was considered one of the older ones in that tournament. He also came from another game. It was very impressive what the second place guy did. But there was a 13-year-old kid from Argentina who came in fifth,

and he won $900,000. And there's a video of him embracing his father. So it can be really young. It also depends on the type of game. In first-person shooters, I have to say, and that's where I come from is my history, there is a certain reaction time and hand-eye coordination that comes with the mouse and what you're shooting on the screen. And there are other games that are more strategical, which are like League of Legends and Dota and an old-school game like game like starcraft which does require a ton of apm on the keyboard but it is a different type of uh speed interaction that you have with the game so it tends to even though they're they are similar um for person shooters tend to require a little bit of a um a little bit of a younger audience and like fighting

games for example there is a an incredible player called Daigo Umahara who has been winning championships from 1999 and he won a major this year. So he is now 36 years old. And he's still one of the best players in the world. So it really kind of depends on the game. He's a Street Fighter. What did they make in 99?

That was Street Fighter 2. No, no, no. How much were they making in 99? Oh, fighter 2 no no how much were they making oh they were like nothing like nothing like like back then you know there was a quake tournament in the late 90s that was for like the 40 50 000 it's actually not too bad really the the big first tournament was um john carmack who uh helped make uh id software and quake and doom and then is building uh vr over at facebook right now he gave away a for his ferrari his personal ferrari to thresh who won the first big quake tournament back then

and that was like a a signal to kind of grow the industry uh further at least here in the west in korea they were already having stadiums sold out in korea on a beach for starcraft as far back as like 2000 2001 so if you're not winning a tournament, how do you make money throughout the year? If you're a professional gamer, what are you doing for your paycheck to paycheck type of living? I would imagine that's all endorsements, right? Isn't that what Ninja

Red Bull and stuff like that? Yeah, yeah, of course. I mean, the biggest players have personal sponsors and they have team salary. I mean, that's a big one. You're thinking about just the prize money the biggest star players in the overwatch league the league of legends championship series and counter-strike i mean the average salary in league of legends is like four hundred thousand dollars in the north american championship series fakers making two to three million there

are counter-strike players that make it 500k a year that probably deserve even more money there's dota players not so where's that coming from? The teams. Like what, but like, what does that even mean? The professional teams. There are professional teams and organizations.

So it's just like, like any other sport where there's like an owner of some sort that's drafting guys, signing guys as free agents, like, and they're offering. The Wilpons on the team, right?

The Wilpons, the Mets. Are they cheap fucks? Do they not pay their, do they not pay their video gamers too? Cause they don't play their baseball players. So it's just like, if I had a boatload of money and I could get in on this I could be like you know this kid's coming up like here's 500 grand you have to play for me uh the Mets an overwatch team called the New York Excelsior NYXL they picked the worst

fucking name of all time for the overwatch team I'm sure the call duty team will be uh just as bad but the NYXL are they they terrible? No, they are better than the Mets have ever been, I think, ever. But if it makes you feel any better, they were supposed to win the championship last year at home at the Barclays Center, and they didn't even make the final because they... Because they choked in the playoffs. And every

time this year, there's like four playoff stages going into the main playoffs. We're going to the stage playoff four before the main championship. They've choked in every single playoff stage so far this year too so it's looking like nyxl will choke accordingly but they at least are better in the regular season than men have ever been like the last like 15 20 years so i don't know if that makes you feel better or worse or whatever it's just like the the the the the mediocrity and the uh incompetence runs throughout everything they touch there There is a difference.

League of Legends and Overwatch have franchise leagues, and other games have an open circuit. So Overwatch this year, next year, is going to be moving into the local market. So the New York team and all the teams in the league have been playing in Los Angeles at Blizzard Studios, but the NYXL will actually be coming back to New York, and they're going to be playing, starting next year year games inside of each of the cities that they have so overwatch has a city-based franchise league league of legends has a non-city-based normal franchise

league and there are other games like fortnite and counter-strike and dota that have like open circuits that are more like tennis and golf where there's like four or five majors in the year and you go to the big majors and then you have smaller tournaments it's just kind of professional sports there's all different models of leagues like when younger players come in professional sports usually like there's something like found on their twitter like when are what are they what's going to happen when like athletes start getting caught like they spent their whole childhood in socom navy seals like saying the n-word and calling people hard f's oh that's happened that's happened already yeah that's happened all the time.

Like half of my job is actually exposing those people for all the shit that they say. There's been an Overwatch player kicked out for soliciting news from a minor. There's been a player kicked out of the Overwatch League for saying homophobic remarks. There have been several players across different games that have said the N-word.

Wait, are they doing this now or when they were younger? This was last year. No, but they were soliciting news when they were younger? This was last year. No, but they were not sending news when they were young? No, they did things last year when they were in the week. Oh, no, there's all types of crazy shit that have come from the past, but a lot of these guys are young, so they don't have so screwed up past. If I was 14 years old and I'm on a fucking peer-to-peer network, who knows what I'm going to say or do?

And then when you're older, you're like, yeah, that was stupid. But if you're of age and doing creepy shit well i guess these kids probably have age right they're probably younger still they're like 14 16 well no these guys are like 1920 they're not like really old they are young guys better than yes to do that they should know better so you definitely have fucked up shit happening all the time because they're young kids and you can't forget though when you ask like what how do people make money what do you guys do here you make content you do streams you do youtube you do blogging that's really how a lot of these pro players and you know these guys are making making money because they're streaming they're making hundreds of thousands of dollars off subscriptions off

donations off revenue sharing off advertising you add in youtube you add in all of that and everything that they do is um helps them make a living but at the same time you have greater access to esports professionals than you do like traditional athletes right actually more and more traditional athletes are like using twitter to like talk shit back to the fans which isn't like a normal thing but that's like right now more and more yeah uh but really in gamers you kind of have direct access to ninja when you really can never talk to, like, you know, LeBron over Twitter. Well, right. I mean, yeah, everyone's comparing Ninja to Tom Brady, to LeBron James. And, like, he's mixing it up with fucking Smitty.

It's like, you know, you can get him in here, you get him in there. So that is, do you think that's going to stop soon, though? Or do you think it'll always be kind of more of, like, a community because of, like, the nature of the game? Or will a guy like Ninja be like, get the fuck away from me i'm ninja i mean yeah i mean for a certain point people like ninja are like the very very top so it's obviously going to be harder for him but i really think what makes gaming and esports so special is that you can reach these people and they are streaming directly to you and you do have greater access the problem is then when a pro player is not like practicing in his spare time

he's usually streaming online and when you stream for six hours a day every day the chances of you saying some fucked up stupid shit for 30 seconds increase drastically and that is what has caused like all the problems that we've had with some people i can see that uh i feel like we used to get it a lot with blogging like oh, oh, you can make money off that? You can do that for a career? And I feel like we know that, but even this, I'm asking stupid questions. I expect a stupid question from you, Nancy.

I knew that was going to happen. I'm here to ask the stupid questions because I do think most people still don't get it or are still baffled by it. And if you're from my generation, it's like, that's just a game. How can you make that much money? But do you think we're almost at the point of mainstream moms and dads,

general society just understanding that everyone gets that if you're a basketball player. Yeah, it's a silly game, but you can make millions. Is it now at the point where it's just like, yeah, video games? It's just any other type of athlete in any type of league? Or are we still stigma and all that shit? I mean, yeah. I mean, you were surprised over Ron Javis cheering for his son on the basketball court. So anything

is possible, I think, in terms of being surprised. I do think we've gone a long way in terms of helping get gaming and esports more mainstream recognition and to be easier to understand for a normal audience. I think things like seeing your kid, like a 14-year-old or 16-year-old

win a million dollars. Now we're going to have like, oh, my God, why are you playing games? Get your ass in your room and play Fortnite right now. Right now we're playing Fortnite. I'm going to beat you if you don't play Fortnite right now. And, you know, that's not any better. But I think we got to that point. That is at least a step forward.

It's still going to take more time. Every time esports has been on television, it's been on ESPN and ABC in the last few years. It's also been on Turner for TBS for Counter-Strike. There's always people complaining on Twitter and Facebook. And I do this whole series where I take all of the bitching and whining and I make an entire compilation. I'm up to like 15 editions of this thing. So it's always amazing every single time. I'm up to like 15 editions of this thing, so it's always amazing every single time. I'm assuming it was you. Somebody put together

a compilation where it was people complaining that NBA Summer League was not on. They're like, where is the next Summer League game? I can't believe I'm watching esports. Like, bro, I got news for you. Nobody's a fuck about the NBA Summer League versus esports. Do you have a fear with the mainstream?

You're in here. We heard you, or I heard you, you were compared to kind of esports. Do you have a fear that with the mainstream, you're in here, we heard you, or I heard you, you were compared to kind of esports Adam Schefter. You're like the number one guy. I guess that's when you put number one on your bio. You're coming in here and you're saying, you're messing around, you're having jokes and stuff.

Do you think with mainstream, you'll have to become more mainstream as well? Or are you going to go Dana White mainstream as well or like are you gonna like go dana right dana white route where it's like look this is how i fucking talk so we're gonna deal with it well i mean like i've had my own show on twitch and we had like the largest esports show for like five or six years my co-hosts were kind of busy but this is normally like how i talk i do curse a lot i'm from new york it's just who the fuck I am. Right. Like how I normally do things. And on Twitch, that's like not just accepted.

Like the fans and Twitch viewers want that. It's the same reason you guys do this on Barstool. It's what it's what Stoolies want to hear because it's like how we naturally talk. When I do like more mainstream interviews. Yeah, I tone that shit down. Like when I went into NPR, like the fucking PR girl like yelled at me, like not to curse because like during our pre conversationconversation, I like cursed once and she was being kind of like fucking bitchy

to me. It was all fucked up. So I really try to tone that shit down when I have to go do because I was on like Fox, Fox News like two days ago. So I make sure that I don't curse. But normally me will be like who I am now. But as like, but the sport as a whole, because like UFC is marketed to

kind of older people. It's violent. It's like whatever. You can say it's pay-per-view. But I feel like video games, at least in my mind, are still marketed to kids. Especially when a 16-year-old is winning. There are children at hand. If you're going to, like, all right, he won the World Cup.

Now I'm going to interview you, and you're talking to a child. I mean, I guess it's not much different than a 19-year-old Zion. We're still talking about young people. But, you know, like 16-year-old is a young kid that you have to – are you going to tailor your – Not even you personally, but do you think the sport – like the Twitch, where you're like, that's what I like on Twitch. That's the way they like it here. Do you think at some point the sport will have to almost Disney-fy? You know, it does feel like – and i kind of do this too i do try to um know where my what i'm doing and what context of whatever i'm doing um content for so if i'm at an event interviewing

the champion like booga i will be like normal professional maybe i'll ask like hard questions but i'm not going to be cursing to him what the fuck's up dude yeah i won't do that uh and you know there are a lot of pro players that are like that too but then like when they're streaming online or on twitch or when i'm doing like my main talk show yeah i'm gonna be like more relaxed and we're gonna like shoot the shit and we're gonna like drink on the show and we're gonna like you know hang out it's gonna be like a different style does he swear um no he's about to bro yeah boog is pretty young like a pretty young kid i swore and normal uh i mean like him specifically is more normal there are definitely other pros in

other games like mango from like the smash community who's gotten hammered as fuck on his stream actually got suspended for getting too drunk on his stream and then came back on his first stream and drank on stream mango is the shit and there are multiple players how old is he he's like 25 all right all right yeah it's usually 16 i was like hoping it was right on the border it usually is the older guys that are like you know more relaxed in that i mean listen that way if you're gonna if you're gonna achieve the dream and be able to be a to make your living playing video games i'm not gonna fucking button up like the whole point is that you don't have to live a corporate life you get to do whatever you fucking want to make your money i mean that's one of the

main lie that's one of the main arguments of gaming like we're not supposed to beat the corporate culture i mean i think that's one of the appeal of barstool and so everyone used you it's not you know espn so i mean that's really why people like the gaming audience because we're like all like that we all come from like the gaming audience because we're, like, all like that. We all come from, like, these communities. That could be definitely super toxic, and that's definitely something to be aware of, you know, going forward.

It's actually like that when we were growing up. It was like, you know, the athletes are the toxic ones. They're the bullies. And I feel like now gamers kind of took that from us. Sure, the athletes are still raping people and whatnot. But at least but at least you know you guys in games are like you guys are like the mean ones that the athletes are kind of just like it's almost reversed i think we're like the athletes are like oh they're on

twitter they seem a little more playful whereas gamers it's like jesus christ those are incels don't fuck with them yeah i i think that the the true sign of it going mainstream will be when are chicks impressed with with gamer guys yet oh you can make the money and we all know about it but our girls like because that's when that's that's what that's what the jocks always have right like the girls like you and you're the popular ones gamers even if you're making money for the longest time you're still the nerd you're an incel whatever the day that it's like the nerd the nerd quote unquote and the jock walked down the hall and the girl's like what's up boo like come with me let's play some video games that's when i think it'll officially be established i mean i think we've already hit that point i mean you've already done articles there's a call duty pro named sensor on

phase and he dated uh janet garcia who's that mexican uh he dumped her uh whether yes you Mexican weather. You already know the whole thing. The gamer dude dumped the Mexican weather girl. You're fucking stupid. That was crazy. I don't care what he's making. That girl, that's the whole point of

doing anything is to land the Mexican weather girl. I want to say that gaming has gotten so far that even that guy could dump her and then and that is where we've got i mean yeah you can put context aside and shit but uh i really i feel like that's definitely more and more like i mean this is getting weird but i'm saying like in in a in like a high school setting in like a high school setting are the is a girl is going to be like yeah like the most popular guy in school is the gamer it's like yeah like

not even like he's on like but it's just like yeah i know he games yeah um i know you're probably stunned but like more people like us from our generation i still don't think understand that where it's like the prom queen and the prom king is gonna be a fucking gamer i'm sure that booga has girls in his high school lined up to to be his girlfriend definitely now that guy for sure for sure. Yeah. Yeah. The, the, uh, do you think that now is, is, is Booga going to have like a slew of haters as well? Of course.

Right. Oh, of course. I mean, now this kid's like, he's still a kid. He's got a lot of money, but he's also going home to people being like,

fuck you and internet hate and all that sort of shit. Well, his Twitter did get hacked like 30 minutes, 30 minutes after he won. Immediately. I actually spoke to him there. And although he just won $3 million, he was actually more pissed off at the event that he couldn't log into Twitter and tweet about it.

What's the point of winning it? You can't get the Twitter likes and shit, man. What happens with that money? I mean, it's a personal question, but it's like whatever they want to do with it. But is that his parents' money? His money is that. You referenced that video of the dad embracing the 13-year-old Argentinean kid where he just came saying, it's all yours, whatever they want to do with it but is that his parents money is that his money is that like that video of the dad embracing the 13 year old argentina kid where he just came saying it's all yours right it's all yours yeah is that is that the way it works for

booger too like i saw he bought a desk uh yeah he wants to buy a desk that was the main thing he wanted to do gotta get that desk crew uh well actually there are two things one which isn't being reported too much but i'm gonna actually make a big stink about it. Let's go. Break some fucking news. The team is taking 20% of his prize money. And according to sources, that is the prize money being taken for all of the players. And 15% to 20% is actually generally what the current teams are taking from their Fortnite pros. From my experience in esports, that's actually quite high. In the bigger games like league

of legends dota and counter-strike that have much uh longer histories the players have been able to bargain get bargaining and agreements that the teams don't take any of their prize money so that dota 35 million dollar tournament in a few weeks almost every single major team has a deal that the team will not take any prize money from those players but the fortnight is so young and the players are so young that the organ and the prize money is so high the organizations have kind of been taking advantage of them so there are player agents definitely helping all of the players but the teams have had more leverage on the pros so this booga kid probably his salary is like i'm i don't know specifics i'm gonna guess it's no bigger than

like a thousand dollars a month he's not a star player he wasn't a player that was expected to win the tournament he didn't have like a huge social media following he was really good player but he wasn't like a huge social media person and he's still stuck on that old contract and that is why they're able to take 20 from him so not only does he get like, I'm going to say he's going to get 600 grand taken away from him in terms of the percentage there's taxes on top of it. And in New York, it's actually even rougher than usual because of state taxes here in New York. He's actually getting fucked really hard.

He's still, he's going back to his pizza place job. Keep playing sports kids. Video games ain't shit. That reminds me of like, what was that guy, Ron Perlman, when he did the boy bands and you just, you own these kids. Like early on, it was like, you're 12 years old. You're like, sure, whatever.

You don't realize you signed away like your whole fucking life. But I mean, it's still, it's wild how fast it's all changed. Even just like from our generation. The peak for what? Like of e-gaming. Is it like NFL? Please never again Like, of e-gaming. Is it NFL? Please never again.

Please never e-gaming. Never e-gaming. Literally ever again. e-sports? Somehow KFC got something over you. Please never, never again. It'll be good for me. Why? What's the...

I'm going to absolutely say e-gaming now. Don't say San Fran. We hate San... Shut the fuck up. It's San Fran. I'm going to go e-game in san fran no you do that if you do you go you go right ahead why is it i mean it's just like the preferred uh it just sounds stupid as fuck well so if you would have liked it is it gaming or esports

well video like video games and esports are like different things like esports is like a subset of like all video games there's like video games subset of like all video games there's like video games which is like all video games that includes like single player games and narrative driven games and you have competitive game multiplayer games um which are like just playing online and playing against your buddy or whatever and then esports is like the professional aspect of multiplayer competitive games is every esport some sort of uh you you die you win like there has to be a declared winner in the end like is there like a role what do you want fucking ties in the nfl is that what you like is every week you like a tie is that you that you're that person can you

be can you is there role-playing game stuff where you can win like uh is there like can you make money on zelda uh there's something called speed running where like every battle you finish first yeah you compete in different games traditionally those are the most popular games there's something called speed running where like every battle you finish first yeah you compete in different games traditionally those are the most popular games there's usually mario and zelda games and also old metroid and they compete they play the entire game and it's whoever finishes first wins and that's called speed running they actually do a charity event every year they usually raise around two million dollars for doctors without borders uh to fight against cancer every year. What is someone's average finishing Zelda in?

What wins? But there's like eight different, nine different Zeldas, and there's like nine different Marios. Or Cania of Time, the one I avoid. Ocarina of Time. Ocarina of Time, yes. It's something like, I think with all of the skips everyone's been able to do, it's like 30 minutes or something. The whole fucking game. It took me 30 days for the water temple.

People have figured out all types of crazy shit. No, they don't even do the water temple. You skip the whole thing? You skip the whole thing because of all different – and you can't use cheats or anything. It's all skips that people have been able to engineer into the game without hacking it or anything. People have been able to clip through walls or skip entire sections of the game by doing crazy shit that you weren't really intended to do huh and that's that's a lot of that is in speed running games whatever people play play those the fuck they just try to break

the shit out of the game so like yeah what you need to win the water temple to like unlock this thing but if you find a way to beat the game without needing that thing yes got it yeah people have been able to bypass entire sections of game that you were intended to play by clipping through walls or doing specific button presses where you like fuck you like you screw up what the game was supposed to do you fall through like the floor and you get to a door that you weren't supposed to and that door moves you 10 levels down is that shit just they found it by mistake or that was like an easter egg that they put into the game on purpose no it wasn't easter egg players just figured out how to play the game and like the developer nintendo especially doesn't like to like patch these are like really old games like super mario 64 is the most popular

speedrun game ocarina times like 20 years old they're not patching these games or anything so people have been able to use like bug testers to figure out the frame data in the game of when they might be able to do nerds yeah what's up with swatting why are you guys such pussies about swatting bro swatting is fucked up okay people get upset i didn't know that was still like a monster thing that's that's still big in the gaming i mean it's only like we got kicked off twitch for it because one of our even like alluded to it i mean he was he wasn't being serious by any means, but even just the mere mention of it was like. Oh, yeah. I was well aware of that.

Yeah, I'm sure. That's a good time. You guys really know what you're doing over here. I mean, there was a swatter who just got sentenced to 30 years in jail for getting someone killed. Well, yeah. Last year. Because that was, was it always a gaming thing? Because I remember

when it was big in celebrities. Like, I remember, like, TMZ was reporting every day that, like, someone sent one to Tom Cruise's house. Did gamers take that from celebrities? Or was that, like,

gamers did that to celebrities? No, this is a gaming thing. Almost every... Toxic fucking culture. Almost all the fucked up things that have, like, periflated on the internet originally came from the gaming community.

Yeah, you guys are disgusting yeah you're fucking you're degenerates you're the skills of society I honestly felt like someone made it up like oh we're gonna we're gonna swap beaver and

then the gamers were like oh that's pretty cool we're gonna do it to each other now no it really I mean look gaming definitely has a lot of problems and issues that it has to go

through to continue to get to that mainstream and the toxicity is definitely one of the problems swatting is something that yeah people get very upset over the game and getting beaten in the game and because of the problems. Swatting is something that, yeah, people get very upset over the game

and getting beaten in the game. And because of the nature of playing against each other online, especially in PC games, there are ways to figure out their IP and there are ways to figure out where they are after that. And then you can fuck with people in that way. So that entire process of like fucking, really fucking people over the internet came from the gaming. There's something about losing in video games, right? Like we we just saw it here smitty had a meltdown the other day

because he lost in mad and started screaming at some kid yeah and it's just like i remember it as like a 12 year old but i guess you can still be an adult and you're just like ah what the fuck and you just you act like a child i mean smitty's fucking terrible he's so bad have you guys watched like smitty play video games so i mean for the longest time i i thought he was you think he's real he's actually that bad or that he's faking who city no he sucks there's no chance that he's throwing these games no way he described it he was like it's bad now sometimes i might like play more aggressive like for the entertainment value of the stream yes and that might lead me to losing more. But no, I'm not intentionally throwing the games. But a lot of people out there are like,

it's impossible to be two for 2,345. Like people tell me, like as bad as I am, like if you picked up the sticks, eventually you'd be better than that. How can you just not improve it? And that almost just defies the laws of doing things. Like you just get better at things in general, no? I am just as stunned

as all Steelies out there, everyone that works at Barstool. I don't know how he is. I mean, he's funny, though. Like, he embraces it. I think he's the commentary. He's so over the top with his hard-o shtick,

and I think it's entertaining. Is there anybody else out there doing that? Like, Ninja's so good, and is there anybody else who's doing the Smitty? Like, I good and like is there anybody else who's doing the smitty like i'm bad come watch me he's got the market cornered i mean really you can't be a huge streamer if you're not entertaining yeah uh to be the biggest streamer it helps if you're the the greatest at the game and you're really entertaining yeah there are some people like smitty that are just so bad you can't turn away is he the number one though he really is

he really is smitty you did it you're number one bud smitty is the best worst player i i know i do think you would beat him if you started really i do think you would go zero and four or five thousand yeah if you started it now yeah yeah that's why i'm saying like i don't think it's that far-fetched because i know how incompetent i feel when i when I grab the controller but like but I don't know when he plays as much as he does for as long as he does you'd think like two times you really would think especially in a game like fortnight and he's into it it's like you know again if I picked it up I'd be like I haven't played any video games but he's into this world you know but it should make smitty feel even worse because fortnight has an element of randomness

in it because the battle royale genre of the type of game that it is it's you know you've seen the old japanese movie battle royale or the um those new movies with the arrow shit what the fuck you just say you've seen the old japanese movie i was gonna go with it but you guys have seen old japanese movies it's called better out really fucking cool but just cool girls that kill each other i recommend you go watch that. But that concept of game where you jump off like an airplane

and you land in and you grab stuff and you try to kill each other. Yeah, there's luck to it, right? Eventually you get, you'd be on the right side of the luck. Yes.

More often than two. Exactly. There is some luck and Smitty, you would think by now, would have lucked out in like one of these thousand situations

to get more than two wins. It's actually even more impressive that he's lost this many times. That's what Kevin always says. Kevin's like, it's like a pitcher losing 20 games. If you go 0-16 in the NFL, it's just as rare as 16-0. It just doesn't happen because eventually you get lucky and you stumble your way into it. You cover the whole landscape, but you also seem to know Barstool.

Are people talking about Smitty that don't know Barstool, really? Is he making waves completely outside the Barstool bubble into the gaming world, or do you have to know Barstool and Smitty? I'd say he's done a pretty decent job of going to the gaming world with game time and streaming a lot. He has put in the dedication to streaming

and being consistent. It's one of the most important things on Twitch to stream consistently every day or every other day or have a schedule. It's wild how important consistency is. I live and live without it. But in everything, you put the podcast at the same time and you blog this frequently and stream this frequently.

I think, yeah, definitely he has gotten more attention it definitely helps that the barstool name is attached to it i mean obviously you guys get a lot of shit for a lot of different reasons over here but the gaming community seems to be pretty favorable and like the barstool brand and what things are done so there there's a reason like ninja plays and like a lot of the big streamers will come on and associate themselves. And I do think that stoolies and the gaming community really do overlap a lot and that there should be more than just Smitty losing Fortnite every day in terms of content over here.

So if you guys ever need me to come carry you guys on more podcasts, I am more than willing to do that, bring in your views and shit, get those numbers up. No problem. I'll say this as we wrap up. My favorite part of the World Cup, I mean, did you see how that guy's father celebrated? He just stood up and he put his hands up and he was so respectful.

He didn't run out there. He didn't jump around. He didn't take his shoes off. He just said, yeah, my son won. It was a great family moment, wholesome, wholehearted. It was great. I can't wait to see you jumping around. You're going to, like, sp, my son won. It was a great family moment. Wholesome, wholehearted. It was great. I can't wait to see you jumping around. You're going to, like, sprain a hammy.

Oh, yeah. Listen, my feet are staying on the fucking ground, man. We appreciate it, man. Thank you for coming through. He's on Twitter, at Slasher. I'm assuming Slasher across all platforms or what? Yeah. So streaming, internet in general, Slasher.

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