KFC Radio - Ellievision, The Barstool Upfronts, Matt Barnes, and Rude Jude

Episode Date: October 17, 2019

The Ellie/Yankees live stream was some of the best content Barstool ever put out. Inside the Barstool Upfronts. Should construction have to start after Feitelberg wakes up? No. Should people feel bad for White Sox Dave? Also no. Voicemails: Buying nudes, Athlete sperm, what would you do if you had the remote from the Adam Sandler movie Click?Matt Barnes returns to talk to us about his new podcast with Stephen Jackson, how the NBA is handling the China situation and whether Lebron smokes weed and just doesn't tell anybody.Rude Jude is also back and also discusses drugs. The time he brought a toddler to The Shelter from 8 Mile in Detriot to see Kelis. His new wine offering. And how the term "Say Less" almost got him in a feud with a rapper.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/kfcr

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Yeah, I guess so, right? On the second floor. Yeah, we just had them on the second floor and we kind of just like all spoke for like two minutes like a q a yeah and it was i remember the pictures that looked so funny because i was like a little off from everybody it was like dave and then it was supposed to be me you keith and pft um but like i was just a little off separated and i was sitting weird and i looked so sad in every picture it was bad boy it was very unbranded awful i was like god damn it these are the pictures are releasing from this i look like

babies in a corner just the whole time well then last night or the second one we went to the ainsworth at a bar and then last night we kind of did it like somewhat for real i mean some of these upfronts like more for the television upfronts people like the turner broadcasting got like kanye oh yeah and shit like that dude i remember people telling us like the sales people or marketing people from back in earlier days telling us about like oh i just went to like the daily mail up front and like they had lady gaga swinging from the ceiling and like the the you know like the no they dance now like that like rope dancing or whatever it is now they're just like rolling around the ceiling like they had a Lady Gaga concert.

And that's insane. You know, upfronts is where you get all your money for the year. So it's like let's ball out. Let's get them at my event, and they'll give us their money. So last night we rented out an event space. Very cool. Shout out to Daniela and everyone else who put that together. It was well done.

Yeah. It was a listening station where you could like – it was like, it looked like a bar, but it was actually like iPads where you could listen and you put headphones on, you could hear whichever podcast you wanted. There was like a sizzle reel for every podcast.

Dave and Deirdre and Erica performed or presented, I should say. And we all got smashed on Pink Whitney. So all in all, a good event. One of those, I don't know,

I got this a lot last night. People being like, when you first signed up, did you ever envision this? I was like, I don't know, I got this a lot last night. People being like, when you first signed up, did you ever envision this? I was like, I don't know. I don't think about that anymore. Yeah. I kind of did. I always say I kind of did.

This one didn't, that didn't like, I was kind of like, this is just like an event for advertisers. Yeah. Certain things like, you know. Did I ever envision? Winning Talladega, like, or almost winning Talladega. No, did not envision that. Having a 23-year-old girl who doesn't know anything about sports commentate sports to diehard Yankee fans?

No, I never envisioned that. Did I envision success? Yes, I did. Dude, not only just commentate to Yankee fans, to 500,000 people on the stream? Half a million? No, never envisioned that. Did I envision a company selling thousands upon thousands

of LeBron James communist t-shirts? Well, actually, probably not. That one wasn't out of the question. Maybe the sheer number that we moved surprised me. But yeah, I guess that one's – some things resonate with me being like, wow. And I also think people are like – I mean I know we've been here a long time. So I guess, yeah, we can like claim the company or whatever. But I don't know.

I'm just like I just work here. I don't know. Did I envision it? I just – they keep paying me, so I keep showing up. I don't know. I'm just like, I just work here. I don't know. Did I envision it? They keep paying me, so I keep showing up. I don't know what you're talking about. And if they stop paying me, I probably keep showing up. I mean, I'm going to talk into a microphone about my dumb shit, whether I'm getting paid or not, until I die.

So whatever. Just give us your money, all right? Just fucking advertise with our show, please. So yeah, we did that last night. The Ellie shit was wild. The Ellie shit was some of the funniest content uh and i was gonna say i've ever been a part of but i wasn't really a part of it but like i've ever witnessed in a way i've ever like just standing there because i don't know if people knew

we had the game on back there we could see what's happening so we were like jumping silently like waiting for her to get out what happened very hard for me to not react to anti-yankee stuff and then i mean i think was her TV a little bit delayed from our TV? I think so. Okay, because it took really long. I'd be like, Ellie, Ellie, it's a ball. Well, no. But, I mean, that to me, it's a real shame that we couldn't get that stream

or video of that up at the upfronts. Because to me, if I'm ever pitching pitching barcelona sports i would show that yeah like that right there is everything in a nutshell in the weirdest way it's like that materialized in less than 24 hours enough time for someone to get here from chicago but not that much time uh and like you know it's it's one of our it's one of our girls who know one of our people who know nothing about sports somehow coming into the sports world, which is kind of what we do here, you know, with a crew of diehard fans, a live stream like that's a second screen experience. It was everything from technology to personality to content to innovation to like serendipity and luck that that was Barstool. That's why Barstool is what it is.

That right there. I actually, I was surprised. Not surprised, but there was a part of me that was like, oh boy, we're going to get in trouble because someone's going to be like, oh look, girls don't know anything about sports. This woman, oh call her a woman. This woman, no, she's a girl. She's a girl. Fuck it. She's a chick. This girl who knows nothing about sports and doesn't have to. No.

She was not the butt of the joke. It wasn't like, oh, she doesn't know anything about sports. No, she was worried about that in the beginning. was like i don't think that's gonna be the case at all no it was absolutely not but i thought maybe at some point someone would be like make they make girl who doesn't know about sports talk about sports and it was but that also that in turn made me realize that i think i hate people like me who are have become so triggered to the potential trigger that they're ready for the thing that's gonna trigger them yeah rather than just shut up and let life happen right just enjoy the maybe someone's getting like i i had a tweet today about uh the guy missed the

guy who's i don't know a man wanted by the police and he looks just like i mean i'll show you the tweet um he looks like uh billy costigan and it's i mean that's leonardo caprio departed and i almost didn't send that tweet i was like can we put that up on send that to him put it up on barstoolgold.com slash kfc uh to watch gold you can catch all of our podcasts and all our extra content barstoolgold.com slash k new one thing i learned out next week. That picture looks exactly like Leo. By the way, I got a lot of people replying, like, actually looks like Leo.

Oh yeah, could be him too. But the... Wait, so was there backlash or something? No, there wasn't. There hasn't been, but I was like, maybe people... And I'm like, dude, don't worry about maybe... Maybe people will get mad. I'm not even seeing it. We'll be mad about what?

It's like, he's wanted in a missing person or whatever. So it could be a bad guy. You're joking about it. First of all, I don't think it's technically a joke. I'm just saying what that person looks like. Yeah.

Like that's what that you're proving your own point here where it's like, we're starting to concoct any possible way we might get in trouble. I mean, that's, that's just, it doesn't like, that doesn't matter. It's like that picture right there. I mean, that's just... That doesn't matter. That picture right there, that's it.

That's William Cuth. I didn't notice that. I thought that was just shitty hair. Yuck. I actually was going to send it before I got in the shower this morning, and then I was like, ah, fuck it. It won't be worth whatever happens. And then I was like, fuck it, man. That's a good observation. I'm fucking

sending it. And it's in a popular tweet and no one's been mad but that's what like i feel like people get like people get mad and that happens when we're used to that but now we're like getting ready for the backlash before there's backlash and it's like shut up and just live life dude you fucking pussy john it's so true man it's i mean you were battered you know it's like and this is where I do understand. This is the Kirk Van Hans of the world and those guys point that you shouldn't have to think that way at all. That shouldn't even be on your mind. You should be able to just let it fly.

But I disagree with that, too, because you should be considering what other people are going to think about what you say. Yeah, to an extent, though. I think that was above and beyond to worry about that. That was. But I don't think there's been any yet backlash with Ellie, and I hope not, because there should be no other reaction than like, wow, that was funny.

It was like flat out, like in a corny internet way, like brave of her to do it because she didn't know what she was talking about. To go onto a live stream that lasted like five hours at the end of the day and have guys yelling at you. But she was the perfect character in a natural way when she took a phone call in the middle of it. She had the phone in one hand like,

yeah, what's up? Oh, no, nothing. I'm not doing anything. What are you doing? And the Starbucks in the other, sipping her drink. I was dying, man. As a Yankee hater, watching them squirm was incredible.

It actually, like, I forgot about the game. Yeah, I did too. They became the story more so than the Astros came back and took a 2-1 lead. And that was Barstool right there. It was. And actually, I became kind of a Yankee fan during it because I wanted good things to happen. So it would be like, oh, he hit it and it's going far, but

I don't... No, not a whole lot. But I was like, oh, I wish it got over the fence so he'd see them like, wait, is it... They'd jump up and start hugging and stuff. It was awesome. I had such a fucking fun time. I was so mad about the up-fronts. I didn't want to go to the up-front. I wanted to stay and watch that the whole time. And of all games, there's a 30-minute umpire delay,

which a baseball fan wouldn't be able to describe what was going on there. There was infield singles and errors. Wild pitch. I think two runs scored on a wild pitch, right? Ellie kept saying he threw the ball and he caught it. He threw the ball and he caught it. And I was like was like listen you don't have to say that he caught it the catcher's always going to catch the ball nope wrong sorry try again so that that to me there are certain moments where uh like you could be like that is why barstool is barstool that's the true

barstool difference and part of that element was also the the white socks dave storyline which i think complemented it perfectly ah because on the one hand you have ellie who plays it perfectly and is like this new like baseball star and on the other hand you have a guy who's in the baseball world of barstool who can't get out of his own way who always seems to like you know stumble and bumble through it who just gets you know sometimes a parcel everybody takes their turn in the blender and sometimes you are just like the butt of the joke and you need to like embrace that like it's like when when things go wrong or or my team loses or i do something embarrassing on camera or whatever it may be

i think about it like being in a movie where it's like if you're the villain in the movie you're yeah you're like the bad guy but like you're part of the movie you know like if you're the punch line you're like the loser it's not like uh we had cal penn in here right it's not like he left van wilder the set being like oh i'm a loser man right yeah that was you know that's and it's it's it's real life so don't yeah it is wrong. It's different, but it's not. But the only way you're going to survive it is if White Sox Dave says to himself, I'm the loser of the story right now, and hopefully there's a redemption arc. I don't know if there's ever going to be one for you. I think there is one happening now because everyone's so sad for him that he came,

which I do not cosign. I think that's ridiculous. Before we even talk about the specifics, I would argue with the with the world of like the freak barstool people like the crazy fans that the ones that borderline on crazy and then go full like troll like assholes i think sympathy is like the best currency of barstool yeah if you if you do something if you get the fans it's like in gladiator like win the crowd win your freedom like get Get the sympathy, win them over. To me, if you get the sympathy of the fans, you could put out the worst content. You could do nothing. It doesn't matter.

If people are just like, oh, come on. Poor guy. He's a nice guy. He's a common guy. He's like me. Honestly, the best thing that could happen to White Sox today was getting sent home. I completely agree. Let's say Ellie never happened.

Let's say, first of all, if he came and stopped Ellie from happening, he would be the villain and everyone would hate him. So, trust me, Dave, you dodged a bullet on that one because everyone would have been like, this sucks. Bring Ellie back. Say Ellie never was even part of it. He comes. He does a competent baseball broadcast. Not great, but he knows what he's talking about right you know and then you go home instead you have this new storyline which he's calling into

more radio shows he's getting legs and he's getting you know uh like content out of that and he now has everyone being like dave's so mean white socks dave's the best i'd sign for that right fucking now you know it's been it's been a couple years since i had some barstool i'll sign for that you want me to fly to fucking california right now get out the plane fly right back done honestly i love airports i love airplanes i'm in yo that's the other thing too all the people freaking out about it like it's not like uh like he like made him do anything like physically bad you know it's like he would have been working anyway and said he was on a plane this morning a couple of whiskeys on the plane a couple of whiskeys on the plane, had a couple of whiskeys on the way home, had a couple of whiskeys at the airport.

Spent it to charge the game. I'll do that right now. What's to be so... Now, the flip side though, we were talking like, so White Sox Dave showed up and Dave Portnoy, in order to throw the storyline up here, said

he's not even allowed upstairs. Forget you're not allowed on. Like, don't even, forget, like, forget, you're not allowed on the stream. Like, don't let him in the building. He sends down one month Ethan, one of our interns. Which is hilarious.

Hilarious. That's fucking funny to send down this skinny intern who hasn't said a word and be like, you have to block this man from entering the building. You're the bouncer.

That's fucking funny. Now, we did say, though, like, if I'm White Sox Dave, I'm, like, throwing a punch. I'm bum-rushing. Oh, I'd bum-rush. Right. But that would be funny, too. Right. So, like, part of it, though, like, if I'm White Sox Dave, I'm, like, throwing a punch. I'm bum-rushing. Oh, I'd bum-rush. Right. But that would be funny, too.

Right. So, like, part of it, I'm like, you know, why do you guys have sympathy? But part of me is like, well, if I was in his shoes, I would definitely not let it go down that way. So there is something to it where it's like, this is a shot to your ego and your pride if we were willing to, like, bum-rush a kid to not let it happen. I'm willing to bum-rush a kid for a fucking pair of sneakers. I don't give a shit about work. But, again, that's, like, the storyline. Like, think the storyline like think about it like all right like this kid's like trying to stop me would it be good content if i actually what was very funny content was the gum did you

see that ethan taking the gum was so funny no so white socks dave had gum because we said he needed to have gum while he was doing the broadcast because of his infamous tv appearance and white socks dave was like what am i supposed to do with this gum now dude like mad about that and ethan was like can i have some and it was one of those like orbits well, what am I supposed to do with this gum now, dude? Like, mad about that. And Ethan was like, can I have some? And it was one of those, like, Orbitz, like, jars. Yeah, yeah. And he just, like, pours a handful and gives it back to him, and I don't know why.

It just felt like, I'll take the gum. Thanks, man. It was just so fucking funny. Just laugh it off, man. The people who take it to, first of all, the people who get mad about, like, someone being mean are very often people who spend their entire day being mean to people online. Yeah, oh, absolutely. Like, the entire day, like, I've often people who spend their entire day being mean people online

yeah oh the entire day demand like those i've met people who are like like other person on barstool like to the nth degree people who are like oh dave was mean to white socks dave i guarantee you almost everyone who says that has demanded white socks dave or someone else at barstool be fired before and it's like yeah he got teased for a second he had to have he had to have fly on a plane for three hours total i think it's a pretty quick flight to chicago it's it's not that big a deal and people who are just like upset about that are just i looked also dave had i think by like 3 p.m yesterday he knew he was coming or 3 p.m the day before oh yeah it was plenty of time to get here i'll tell you what if he dave, not letting him in the building is what kind of swung the pendulum White Sox

Dave's way. Had that not happened and it was just like White Sox Dave missed a big event, you'd be crucified. Yeah. It'd be like sleeping through the kickball. It'd be like any of the other things where it's like you knew when it was, you just didn't get here in time. And you don't get to play in the airlines.

You could have come last night. You could have come early in the morning. You cut it too close, and you got burned. That would be the opposite. Everyone would be jumping down his throat for that. That's true. So, like, come on. And also, just everyone fucking relax.

I can't. Honestly, we're going on vacation, right? We're doing it. Probably not. Probably not. But, like, the Chick-fil-A sandwich and the dirty fucking food. And now crying about this kid getting on a plane. I just... It's too much drama.

It's too much fucking stupid drama. Come on. I know we were planning on going on vacation at the end of October. We're pretty much there now. Yeah. We're there. We're not going on vacation. It's not going to happen.

I need to go on vacation. I know. So bad. So bad. I need to go on vacation. I know, so bad. So bad. I need to go on vacation because of... You ain't getting some sleep? Listen, John's got sleep problems, but when he shows up to work, even if he's tired, he's always looking sharp. Can I tell you a text I sent this morning where it was...

They've been at 7.20 a.m. They've been jackhammering outside my building all morning and someone needs to die for it. That girl provides a great reason to murder. I'll defend you. They started 7 a.m. This is fucking insane. Don't you have noise ordinances? I said, apparently not. And she waited a little while and she was at work and she said, I'm sorry, that sucks.

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It doesn't make sense. Like, how is that legal? How is it legal for at 7 a.m.? People are already awake. Like, so these guys. Wait, wait, wait. That's it. These guys, no.

Stop the sentence. No, most people aren't up at 7 a.m. Yes, they are. No, they're not. You have babies. Having babies is different. Most people don't have babies. Most people are up.

It's maybe a little bit early, but that's it. 7 a.m. is crazy. It's way too early. You're missing out. I would imagine, actually, wouldn't most construction unions be like an 8 to 4 shift? Yeah. 8 would be different. 8, I would not freak out.

7 is crazy but so eight i would understand fine but so then you're only getting you're only missing like an hour yeah that's so much sleep it's not like that's like one fifth of the sleep i get it was like 1 a.m 2 a.m i'd get it because it's like you can't sleep no that's what i basically woke up a little bit early yeah that's insane the normal it's great dude it's 7 a.m that means these guys got up at like 5 a.m to ruin my day most people got these guys got up at like 5am to ruin my day these guys got up at 5am

time to go fuck with John Feidelberg that son of a bitch time to go to work cause everyone else is up and going to work too no one's up at 5am going to work everyone's up at 7am the normal work day is 9-5 no normal work day not anymore it's 10 now no it's not

most people everyone I know is 9 to 5. No, the workday, not anymore. It's 10 now. No, it's not! Yes, it is! Most people... Here, we get in at 10. Everyone I know works at... Everyone I know who goes to work gets up at 10 a.m. Or goes to work at 10 a.m. Who do you know? My brother and my girlfriend. I was going to say, I don't think you have any friends in the real workforce.

Right? I don't have any friends, period. I don't know what time anyone else goes to work, to be totally honest. Bro, I got friends who get in at 7. at seven and i was working on the stock exchange yeah yeah fuck them too go fucking hammer in front of their houses everyone who's working at like a but the register at like a coffee shop whatever they're up and fuck them too i don't drink coffee i don't give a shit about them everyone who has everyone who basically has a job at nine with any semblance of a commute you You're up, you shower and get ready and have maybe some breakfast for an hour

and then you commute for 45 minutes. That takes you from 7 to 9. No, no, no. I spent from 7 a.m. to 10 a.m. rolling around on my bed trying to get back to sleep. I spent more time trying to fall asleep than I got sleep last night.

I was just like what i did the pillow trick i was yeah i was gonna say i could picture you i was going no no no i tied a t-shirt around my head because because the and it had by like 8 30 it was so bright i don't have blinds because it's the morning it's time to wake up! Yeah, but I couldn't get back. I can sleep through that sunshine when I'm already asleep. But when you wake me up and start stirring me at 7, I need to tie it up. So I look like fucking Zorro with my pillow around my head. Just trying to fall back asleep. And they wouldn't cease.

It was incessant. It was incessant jackhammering with simultaneous truck backing upping. It was insane. It was in my fucking bedroom. Have you ever heard a truck when they go over a bump and the back door? Yeah. And it goes, ka-kong! Ka-kong!

It's the loudest thing in the fucking world. We used to call them the bomb trucks. They used to drive around Fordham's campus, and there was speed bumps on the campus. Ka-boom. And we would hear that at 10 a.m. But we were college kids. We weren't waking up and being adults. I'm still a college kid.

Look at this stupid shirt I'm wearing. I'm a college kid. I'm a 30-year-old college kid. I forget you're Peter Pan, bro. I am. I'm in Neverland. Nobody goes to work until 11. Oh, my God.

It was fucking crazy. How can these construction workers work during work hours? 7 a.m. is not work hours. I refuse to accept that. Apparently it is. Maybe you can go to work, fucking play with your dick for an hour. You can start Jackhammer at 8. I'll allow it.

I won't be into it. I'm not happy about it, but I guess I'll allow it. I prefer 9-30-10 if you're going to start Jack Cameron, but if it's 8, I guess I won't freak out. You are a doofus. We got two interviews on the show today. We got Matt Barnes, who's launching

his own podcast with Steven Jackson, which is officially the toughest podcast duo in the game. I'd say we've been dethroned. We were the previous number one, but now Matt and Stack are going to dominate that field. And we got Rude Jude in the building. He came through and did an interview a little while ago. A lot of drug talk today.

A lot of medication talk. On the one hand, you have Matt Barnes being like, just smoke a little weed to go to sleep. And on the other hand, you have Jude being like, do it for yourself. It's fun, man. Jude is a fucking trip, man. So a couple, that's actually a pretty uh intimidating uh lineup of guests there i feel like those are two guys

that nobody trifles with matt barnes of rude jude so we'll get into that uh but first our voicemails they're brought to you by our girl fleishman oh i was just at uh erica fleishman yesterday get my haircut she was rocking the uh off-white Grim Reaper blazers. She's got a good sneaker game, that one. She does. But I hate her for it because she can wear, like, boys size 5 and she pays, like, nothing for them. So fuck off, Erica. Got the haircut.

But don't fuck off because you've been really crushing it for us. Yeah. This last one, I was very happy with this latest haircut. Good job, Erica. Turns out you know a thing or two about hair. And that's why I trust her. I actually heard even Dave, for the first time the other day, didn't knock Fleshman because they were talking about Brandon Walker

on the rundown, and Brandon Walker looks like he cuts his hair with a fork and knife. And Big Cat was like, just go to Fleischman. Like, let her figure that out. And Dave was like, I'm not, you know, everyone knows I'm not Team Fleischman, but I'd like to see what they could do with that flow. Actually, I'm going to go against everyone here. Erica did not take a Brandon Walker appointment.

John is very much like he wants to keep the family. Oh, no. I think Brandon Walker's hair is very important to Brandon Walker. Oh, I got it. That has to be Brandon Walker's hair. I feel you. You're right. On the flip side, though, I do think it would be very funny if one day he came in with a suit and this flow of some sort.

I mean, he's got ridges in his hair. I said it looks like a Rhodesian ridgeback. I love you. I'm not knocking the guy. I'm just, you know. But anyway, she is the hair expert here at Barstool Sports. I'm not knocking the guy. I'm just, you know. But anyway, she is the hair expert here at Barstool Sports. I'm not knocking the guy. I'm just saying he looks like a Rhodesian Ridgeback.

As I said it, I was like, ooh, this is mean. I don't think it's mean. It's what it looks like. Listen, people are going to give you sympathy, Brandon. Don't worry about it. It's the best thing that can happen to you. So Erica knows everything about hair. She's made it her life's mission.

She took all of her money, invested it in herself, and opened up several salons. And she's coming out with shampoo, conditioner, hair herself, and opened up several salons, and she's coming out with shampoo, conditioner, hair products, the whole nine, everything you need for your haircut. It's not a haircut. It's hair culture, bro. Okay? The Fleischman flow.

And so they want to make sure your hair is growing and thick, so that's why they got the Fleischman gummies. Now, I'll take anything to make my hair grow. I'll do the pills. I'll do the gummies. I'll do the drops. I'll do anything to make my hair grow. I'll do the pills. I'll do the gummies. I'll do the drops. I'll do whatever it takes. Because when you hit my age, hair is the great equalizer, really.

Or the separator, I should say. Because some good-looking guys who, when it goes, it goes. See the guy in high school who was once the cool guy, and now he's bald. And it's like, oh, not so much. Sad. So you've got to stop that from happening. Get on the Fleischmann gummies. It's got like

biotin in it which is the vitamin. I think unfortunately we finished ours because we fucking crush them. We also eat it like snacks. That's the problem. They are tasty. So you take a gummy a day and it's got like 10,000% of your daily value of biotin which is what helps your hair look all

thick and shiny and smooth. Actually it was a funny moment last night at the Upfront. The podcast clips that we were running had one from when Edelman was in here, and that's when Feidelberg's hair was really long. He's very mad at all of us. It was so bad, guys. I remember it looking good because I remember someone saying, I remember it looking good, too, and I saw that goddamn video.

I was like, wait, what the fuck is that? I remember saying it looked like Jackson Maine from A Star is Born. Bradley Cooper. You know what it looked like? Best case scenario, George Washington. George Washington. Best case scenario. Fran goes, that looks like Benjamin Franklin.

It looked like a powdered wig, but not white. It had this mop on top and it had the waves in it. That was a particularly. I would go to get my haircut and she'd be like, can you talk to John? Can you tell him to come in? I liked it though. I liked it too. That was a particularly bad day, I think. It was greasy because he didn't wash it

because he's a gross creep. And it was like flat on top and bushy on the bottom. I think ordinarily they'll look pretty good. We also, like, if you can pull it off, then we like it. So John was pulling it off. It doesn't mean it was actually good. Yeah, but even you would think you would look back on the video and be like, yeah, he's pulling it off there.

He wasn't. And it didn't help that Edelman was the other one. Yeah, he would close up of me looking like an old fucking 1700s racist. And then it's like, oh, here's one of the hottest guys on the planet. The point, though, that hair was long and full and thick. Yeah. Because your boy takes the gummies. That's true.

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So basically we've got a friend in our group. He's a guy. We've got a bunch of friends that are girls in our group he's a guy we've got a bunch of a bunch of friends that are you know girls in our group that um this guy knows and basically we indirectly kind of found out that this guy has been uh he created a fake instagram account with like no followers uh and he's been dming our friends anonymously um asking them for nudes and offering money uh to try and you know get their nudes and he knows these girls uh and instead of

just you know asking him straight up and you know trying to hit on him he's he's doing it and honestly with uh with the instagram account but we found out that one of our friends sent them to this guy's instagram account zero followers uh for 15 that's it so uh my i guess i have two questions so with this situation one One, who looks worse? You know, him creating the account to try and get trying to get nudes from his friend or the girl who sent him for fifteen dollars. And what would your price be? Thanks. This is a whole fucking host of issues.

This is great. This is a while. This is a roller coaster. I think the question is easy i think one he looks worse i think you're i think like i think this is you're out of my circle of friends oh yeah we are this is like register on a list type shit we are not friends this is some sexual predator type shit why are guys so fucking weird man i'll say it to them with girls not not for looking for nudes but if you have burner accounts

oh girls have more of them guys do worse things with yes correct but for any reason if you have multiple accounts hidden accounts it became normal for a while there i think it's like a post like my slutty pictures it's like okay fine but you're also probably like girl like mean girl shit goes on you're like harassing people and dming people if you have i i'm so out of the world of creeping that like i was reading about the instagram update the other day where it's like it takes you away your followers and like likes i'm like that like i i didn't know i think i'd accidentally gotten on that page a time or two and been like wait how do i get back to the other thing yeah see i i don't care about that but i i was happy like i'm not looking at other people's but i don't like that when you follow someone

everyone can see that oh yeah i just don't care i just didn't know people i didn't know people could know yeah i didn't know it was a thing out there because like that's just not something i'm concerned you're fucking weird man like you're really weird if you have multiple accounts of shit it's fucking especially anonymous accounts and things like that. It's a fucking problem. And like. Feel yourself on the internet. Right. Why does everyone have to be hidden?

I don't know. Are you like, what are you, fucking Edward Snowden? You're in fucking China and you're going to get like kidnapped if you put your name to things? I hate when they do that shit where it's like, it's like, dude, doxing is important. Shut the fuck up. Bitch, we're in America. Nothing bad can happen.

People say that to me on Twitter. They'll be like, dude, what if how about I have a fake name just because I have a real job? It's fucking social media. As long as you're not saying things that aren't bad that normal fucking human beings would say and you're not just using it for a troll account, you're not getting fired for being like

oh man, Red Sox almost scored there. It's fucking bullshit. I fucking hate people. I hate people. I hate that fucking guy who was in the office the other night being creepy, who took Ellie's picture. Total creep. Like, what was his name?

I want to say his name. Find it out for me. I'm going to say it, that fucking son of a bitch. Where did I see it? I hate these people. I think it was on the Viva La Stool account. Yeah, if you don't know that story, there was a dude here in the office for the golf classic,

and, like, you know, these guys come in, they mingle, and they have drinks and shit. And he stole Ellie's picture of her and her producer Alana off her desk, took a picture of it, sent it to Ellie, and said, hey, I have your picture. I'm still in the city if you want to get a drink and come get it back. In what world is holding a girl's property ransom a good idea? You think that's cute? You think that's like a normal fucking thing for some fucking regular person to do?

I think there's a fine line with trying to pick girls up between like what can be called like cute or creative and creepy. This is not on that line. No. Like sometimes, you know, you drop a line and like we always say like, you know, Tom Brady, if you're good looking, you get away with it if you're ugly you're a creep

that's true if this guy was hot it probably works i don't know i i i mean if he's super hot it all it always works but like you stole my shit and then took a picture and i tried to lure me to a bar with it like it's uh it's weird but just i mean hotness trumps all. You can be a goddamn psychopath. I mean, chicks want to fuck Ted Bundy. Hotness trumps all. Facts. That's like, that's the end all be all right there. It's like a mass murderer is a sex icon. Yeah.

Even worse than that, the chicks who want to fuck the cannibal cop. Oh, yeah. That wasn't even a big story. I know that because of New York City, like NYPD and New York blogging. There was a guy who got sent to jail because he got caught like sending letters to people saying like i'm gonna boil her and eat her with like recipes yeah not just like i'm gonna boil you like basil and like chili powder and uh girls like visited him in jail to fuck him like at least ted bundy is an icon you know he's like a famous person this guy guy's just fucking nobody. Anyway, this...

It's bothering me. It's like weighing on me more and more and more. It's like, dude, just stop being weird on the internet. Stop like... Be normal! Get the t-shirt now. Go to the KFC radio section of the Barstool store. Get the shirt.

Be normal. It's everyone's best fucking advice. And if you wear that shirt, you better not have ever DM'd a girl, sit on my face, that you didn't know. Like, if you want to do that better not have ever dm'd a girl sit on my face that you didn't know like if you want to do that shit sexting fine did you hear what happened to casey with the dm oh yeah some guy wants to keep her in a like locked up forever how i want to buy i want to buy this girl and if i if i had jeff bezos money i would buy this girl and never let

her out of my house you know what's even worse than that the people because our sophie julia will sometimes have like screenshots of guys in her DMs. Yeah. I think she finds it funny or whatever, but it bothers me that fucking people are out there giving dudes with dicks a bad name. And it's like you're not representing my cause well. You're just being a creepy asshole. And one of the people who still use it all the time is like, I drag my dick through glass to stiff your fire. Shut up. You're going to be a fucking creepy and original creepy. If you say I want to drink your bath water. people still use all the time it's like i drag my dick through glass to just talk to shut up that

you're gonna be a fucking creepy and original creep if you say i want to drink your bath water oh my god fucking loser what's the line from uh i hope i hope any guy listening this has never done a shit you're a fucking loser at least i don't want on original my show yeah like i'd suck a fart out of her ass i want to drink her bath water i listen to her part to a walkie talkie i drag my nuts through like three miles of broken glass and hot sauce just to get a chance to just to like hear her say my name i don't know whatever fuck all the iterations of all that shit you're a fucking idiot it was like mildly funny on a on a comment section in 2008 yeah not anymore bro uh i'm not but and i'm not sitting here like, I'm not trying to white knight for anyone.

I'm just like, you're an asshole. You're a fucking loser. Yeah. If you want to be a creep, fine, be a fucking creep. Just be better at it.

Yeah, at least be original. At least be an original creep. And I, but I will say this, if ever, it's also not fine to be a creep. So like I said,

you'll be making me look bad and that's where I step in. I will use this too as an example. I think me and you disagree on this one and i'm definitely generalizing and stereotyping here but if you tell me that like guys and girls can be friends i'm gonna send you this story right here because this is the kind of shit that's most likely going on if you have a guy friend yeah a friend who's a guy he's not my boyfriend he's a friend who's a boy yeah he's probably making up fake accounts trying to see your pussy i've said i think we agree i think i said guys and girls can be friends but they want to fuck each other or they don't have to yeah but they there's like a sexual tension there no like just like like a

hot friend isn't friends with an ugly person we no matter which way we go it's like yeah a hot guy with some like really ugly girl hot girls aren't friends with some really ugly guy it's not like like there is... Like, you'd be platonic, but it's like, it's gotta be like a chosen platonic. Like, I'm just not fucking them.

Not like... It's gotta be like, I'd fuck them. I could see... I think you could be friends with an ugly person. Oh, no? You don't think so?

I don't think I have a single ugly friend. I think all of my friends are at least fuckable, guys and girls. I mean, I'm friends with you. I'm fuckable. I have sex. I think I have some and girls. I mean, I'm friends with you. I'm fuckable. I have sex.

I think I have some ugly friends. I mean, there's some people here in this office that are ugly. Not my friends, though. My co-workers. There's someone sitting at their desk right now who's ugly. He's like, I guess I'm not friends with John. Or they're going, I guess I'm ugly. No, if you're my friend.

You know if you're my friend. I have a lot of friends in this office. They know. get a lot of co-workers you're leaving the bar pretty low for fuckable though probably yeah yeah i don't know like i i could see here's the problem relatively attractive when you say can guys and girls be friends it's it's always gonna be like a it's a two-way thing so like i personally think i could be friends with a let's say a fat ugly girl someone i'm not attracted to i'll be your friend but then but she might be attracted to me and then that fucks up the dynamic it has to be mutually agreed upon that we're not fucking right so even if i think hey i can be friends with you you have to agree and like say chances are if one person's

prettier than the other if if i don't want to fuck you but you want to fuck me then it's hard to be friends it's hard to be so it's like or like there's gonna be you might think so but the guy might be at home with fake accounts asking you for nudes so like and if he's doing that have some respect for yourself all i'll say though i could see i'm gonna try to throw the i'm gonna i'm a spin zone this for this girl i'm gonna try i think that like maybe she just wants like the thrill of like sending nudes like being taboo yeah so like it's not even about the money she's just like i'm out here on the internet maybe she's like into voyeur shit because 15 is criminally do you think they haggled yeah like was there a negotiation if you just threw out 15 that was the first number like you have no self-esteem but can you picture them

going back so if this guy down from 500 but if this guy if he just said like hey give me nudes for 15 bucks and she was just like a voyeur and she's like okay fine that's better to me than haggling to 15 if you negotiate and arrive at 15 i think you have no self-respect i think if someone says 15 he probably could have said send me nudes and she was just like i'm into it this is kinky set different you can get nudes for free you know a lot of people don't spend any money i think if you if you arrive upon 15 bucks that means in your head you said my body's worth 15 i'll send you that i think it's better to be like yeah this is sexy i don't care you know and if you get 15 bucks like all right whatever that's the side effect maybe she was calling him out like this guy's not

not gonna do this and then he just shoots the Venmo. Deal's a deal. I guess I have to send you my pussy now. That's also like, you know, 15 bucks for like boob pic. That's probably actually pretty market value. Yeah, that's true. That is true. Look at your boobs.

Your boobs are worth like zero dollars. I think you have to pay, like you Venmo me with your tit. Yeah, right. I got to look at a tit. Come on. That's like a waste of my eye time. Yeah. I got to save these for my tit come on that's like a that's a waste of my eye time yeah i gotta save these for my my screen i'm like a lawyer yeah like i spent i'm gonna spend like 16 hours on my phone today 30 seconds i'm not looking at your tit let's break that down for for what i mean what the pricing is dollar i just lost like you know i lost i lost at least 15

dollars doing that there yeah so wasting my time time is money bitch i could have been doing other things time is money and your boobs are a waste of my time. Time is money, bitch. I could have been doing other things. Time is money and your boobs are a waste of time. What is your number? I mean, this isn't like a fun game for us. To send a nude? Yeah.

Because ours has to be pretty high because we have blue check marks. Because of like, we might, you know, get exposed or because we have to keep up a certain standard. Hmm.

I think the number has got to be really high for once we get exposed to go, look, it was... Right, that's what I'm saying. It was for $100,000. People are like, well, you'd be an idiot not to take that. Yeah, but I mean, everybody's out here. I mean, it's not like most people are spending money for dudes.

Most people are just like dumb, slutty people. Right? So like, I i mean my number is actually zero but it's not like if you're a hot chicken we're sexy yeah but it's not strangers this was too right so a stranger um and it's just like my let's let's let's say like my dick and my face like you have like it's it's identifiable yeah um i i don't i don't i don't have i mean my thing always is just my kids. If I didn't have kids,

I'd probably put my own dick on the internet. It's my dick, guys. If I was just like, I need 10,000 more followers and I'll put my dick on the internet, I would just use it. But I don't want... That's a tough look for you when you're a father.

Yeah. With the kids involved and dick in the face. College tuition? Yeah. I'd say it's like six figures. It's got to be six figures. I honestly don't have a gauge for this. You know what I'm going to do?

I'm going to go Walter White with it. What's his like $747,000 to like take care of my family? That's the number. If you give me Heisenberg money, you can see my dick. See, my thing with it too. And or if you're just a little bit sexy and you catch me late night, you send me a sext, I'll do it too. I'm scared.

The thing that would scare me. Three quarters of a million dollars or one picture from you first. Or like you and a thong. I mean, that's complimentary to that girl because that means you value that girl. That nude's worth $750. No, that's like a trust thing, though. That's like mutual destruction. But the thing that scares me about

a dick pic leaking in this scenario here where I just feel like it would get spun into sexual harassment. Where it's like, they asked for it. Get me too. I don't want to deal with the internet backlash. Well, if that's the case, then it's like millions. If there's any chance I can get

me too'd, it's got to be like enough money to cover my career. You just said you're addicted to 15 i i i think i think that we are at the point by the way where we need to like a little bit destigmatize a little bit because i'm talking about solicited like if you want if people want them it's agreed upon like so many people are doing it that like there there can't be that much taboo or stigma attached to it anymore. I think there's so little taboo or stigma attached to it, I don't really do it anymore. It doesn't fucking get me hot. But there's enough that it would be a scandal or a story.

Yeah, it would be a scandal. But just on a regular day, I probably haven't sent a nude in God knows how long. You're also wiped up now, though, no? Your poor girl's at home just in the fucking desert, dried up there, just waiting for a dick pic from Johnny. I don't want a dick pic. That's not right. Are you confident enough in your dick to be sending them around?

Like, let's put our cards on the table. We're always making fun of our dicks and stuff, but I think my dick's good enough to send a dick pic. Yeah, I've sent them them i've sent them yeah but are you ever when you send them when you have sent them are you like i guess i have to do this are you kind of like that one's pretty good oh no i mean anyone i send is the a1 yeah but but again meaning you is your a1 like are you actually pretty confident in it yes yeah me too i'm good with it that's why you make fun of having this way you say i have a little dick because guess what i'll send the

dick pic it's pretty good i'm so happy we've like actually said that it's like like listen it's not the best but it's pretty good and like i'll joke around about like not being able to get you off but like i'll probably get you off you know like it's not gonna be great sex but i'm pretty good at it yeah you always joke about things that like you're comfortable joking about i'm not gonna make fun of my actual insecurities where it's like, man, I'm going to get myself

all fucking verklempt. Yeah. My actual insecurities, I will not talk about. Those are locked away in the fucking box. Honestly, I don't know if I have any.

Insecurities? Because I don't know. I've made fun of pretty much everything about me ever. I don't know what I have. I had two, but there are. Even my hands at one time,

I said that was my insecurity. I make fun of my hands all the time. They're fucking shit hands. That's like one... That might be something I should be insecure about, but I'm not. My fucking hands, what am I going to do? What am I actually insecure about now?

I really have been deadened after the deluge of hate the past couple years. It's just still my appearance. My naked body. i don't like that i'm insecure about that i know but you shouldn't be but i am yeah i mean i shouldn't be i don't want to be but i am yeah it's okay but you shouldn't be here you're okay yeah are you insecure i used to be like insecure about my nose i was i was at a bar with my parents the other night and i like saw myself on the first i do and even i was like ah fuck you know what you're all right

did we not talk about did i hallucinate did i dream this didn't your mom say when you're gonna do something about your nose yeah i don't know what the fuck that was all about wait wait there did we tell that yet no we were at dinner and she was just like john when are you gonna do something about your nose you're talking about mom i'll tell you what i'd be insecure about if i were you my mom making fun of me all the time you're gonna get that thing fixed no i don't i don't have a problem i just got a nose job sometimes i wish like occasionally i wish was a little smaller but like i mean it's my nose i don't really fucking care it's a it's it's not bad enough to be like a problem it's not it's not a small nose but it's like a pretty normal nose it's like it's a little bit smaller than the double dare nose but it's not um but if you want

to get plastic surgery we'll do it together bro we'll just like you get the nose job i'll get the liposuction we'll be good be a nice little boys outing hey ksc fights this is jp uh in jersey i was sitting there talking with my guy about these athletes and how much money they make on their endorsement deals and how sometimes it's even more than their contracts. We started talking about how they can make even more money, and we were talking about LeBron James selling his sperm and how much money he would make off of that,

or like Serena Williams selling her eggs. So the question is, how much would you spend for an athlete's sperm so that you could ensure that your children would be phenomenal sports stars? And which athlete would it be? Take care. I would spend $0. Okay. But, I mean, like, it's a story when an athlete's son becomes like an athlete yeah like it's pretty

rare it's it's it's a big deal like there i i would bet there are 10 former football players who have their children in the nfl right now yeah i mean i don't know i don't know the number obviously but yeah i get your point right it's not not like LeBron James kid being as good as he appears. He like may end up being is like, uh, the rarity. Yeah. Like Marcus,

Marcus Jordan is just like selling shoes. Right. Marcus Jordan went to UCF, I think. Cause his dad like, you know, made him like made the school like, right.

You know, he's probably like here, kid, like, like could, if Michael Jordan can't even get you to be like on the UNC basketball team. Right. What are we doing?

That's why I think it's crazy that Vlad Guerrero Jr., Bo Bichette, and Craig Biggio's kid, what's his name? Falcon or some shit, some stupid name. Is it really? No, it's like Ray. No, it's Raymond. It's a stupid name.

But the fact that they're all in the league. Let me find out right now. And they're all on the Blue Jays, right? Yeah, they're all in the league. Huh? Let me find out right now. And they're all on the Blue Jays, right? Yeah, they're all on the Blue Jays. I mean, that's like, they just, the second coming, the second generation is. Blue Jays just decided, Blue Jays hired. Tavan. Tavan.

T-A-V-A-N. Nah, stupid name, Tavan. But I think the Blue Jays hired like a 15-year-old to be their head of scouting. And it just happened to work out. Where it's just like, his daddy played baseball? Pick him. Or no, you know what?

I think it might be the opposite. I think he hired someone my age who was like, Vigio, Guerrero, Pichette. These guys are awesome. I also feel, I had this epiphany last night because I look at the TBS crew, which has really turned things around. I used to hate the TBS broadcast.

Now I kind of love it. Frank Thomas, A-Rod, Poppy, Sheffield, Pedro in the studio. And I'm thinking like when our dads or that second generation before us, when they were watching and it was like, I mean, I can't even think off the top of my head because I wasn't really paying attention, but were they loving those like analysts because they were the guys that they watched? I would bet no because I think that. It's like a newer thing?

Not analysis, although yes, obviously to an extent it's a much different landscape now. But I think the professionalism has been taken away in a good way. Right. Where it was just like, here are the sports scores and stuff like that. They couldn't be that likable in the first place. Right. Now it's like add your personality to this. There was no way they were like,

I remember watching Tim McCarver play ball and I love the fact that he's on the call because he was just so professional. But I love Pedro like, Thor! And Poppy with the cigars. It's like watching all your heroes. They retire, but they're not out of your life. They're actually back more in your life

in a better way. A lot of a lot of them and poppy and pedro know uh most of them stay quiet and stay in line they stay professional in that era of professionalism right it was like now it's now it's be yourself now let's make yourself marketable have fun like be a good time and that's a totally different thing than it was i don't know i would even say 10 right it's like very new i want want Albert Bell on one of these broadcasts just to be a scary motherfucker. Is Albert Bell... Is he in jail?

I think he's got a couple of cases. Did he murder somebody? I think he's got a DUI. I think he might have been abused. He's got some bad ones. I feel like he might have raped somebody. Really? No, I don't know.

I'm just saying. Let's see. How about if I just write Albert Bell crime? Let's see. Albert Bell arrested for indecent exposure. Indecent exposure. He's got a whole legal troubles tab in Wikipedia. Yeah, that's when you know.

That's when you know. But by the way, hell of a ball player. DUI in 18. Hell of a ball player. That's it? Well, that's the latest. That's the most recent. Okay. He is the most.

90 days in jail in 2006. Oh, for what? Violating restraining order. Stalking ex-girlfriend. Yeah, I knew there was an abuse type of girl in there. I mean, he's still roid raging, like hardcore. You know, like his brain, his body is ravaged by, oh, that's right. Remember that?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I mean, hell of a ball player. One of the all-time most underrated people in any field ever. Didn't he go 50-50 once? Did he go? I think it was like 50 homers, 50 doubles or something like that. Not steals, but I think he's one of those guys who has his own club.

He was the forefront of steroids because everybody thought his bat was corked. How can anybody be jealous? Well, it was too, though. The bat was corked? No, that was Sammy. Sammy broke his bat, but I think something happened with Albert Bell.

I think they confiscated the bats and then somebody broke it and stole the bat. No, that was Sammy. Sammy had the bat. Sammy broke his bat. But I think something happened with Albert Bell. I think they confiscated the bats and then somebody broke it and stole the bats. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But he would point to his arm and be like, there's the cork. It's like, well, yeah, I mean, you're cheating there, too. There's corks up in there, too. Yeah, he's 50 home runs, 50 doubles. The only guy to ever do that. 50 home runs and 52 doubles in this shortened season.

Jesus Christ. Disgusting. But this question also reminded me of one of my favorite jokes of the spying athlete. Right, right, right. Which, yes, you could. But, I mean, that just doesn't make any sense

for an athlete. I would pay way more, by the way, for an intelligent person than an athletic person. Give me, like, Zuckerberg. Well, and he's ugly. Like, a good-looking guy. Like, some Elon Musk brain cum.. Like some Elon Musk brain cum.

Give me some Elon Musk brain cum. I'll pay you. You know, I don't have any money, but I'd pay you some of it. The, it's just,

this is, yes, this could be like a wildly, that's what we're looking for. Get there. Get there. Earn it.

I already quit. Earn it. No, you gave up already. Profitable. There you go. Profitable world. Sure. For professional athletes, but they're never going to do it because it's just –

almost like if every athlete was just like, I'm going to become a stud horse now, then that would be – Yeah, I mean think about – that's what horses – they just fight for like $100,000 a load, right? Yeah, but the legal ramifications of this, if someone was just like, well, now you pay child support. Yeah. You think you're making a ton of money, and thing you know you're just like in debt yeah like you have like four kids and you're in debt but i also feel like i mean don't you like sign like i would never give my cum unless i signed something that said like you are waves of all legal ironclad i like i gotta like yeah but see the supreme court like watch me sign like just the forget about the legality.

Like just the social – Just knowing that there's kids all over the place. Like lots of things happen that aren't illegal but now you get socially shamed. So if somebody finds out that one of these donor kids is like – has a cancer or something like that. Oh, like a disease. It's like, hey, LeBron. Yeah, that's true. Regardless if it's legal or not. That's a great point.

LeBron's like like that's not my kid yes it is and he's dying of cancer are you going to help him but my other thing is also to overcome my unathleticism this athlete like Serena Williams is not enough this has to be superhuman that kid's just going to end up

captain of the high school basketball team that's what I think that's what it's's what... I think a lot of professional athletes' kids just live normal lives. My kid, I have the athleticism to get my kid to a normal life. He'll be captain of his high school teams.

Maybe he'll get a D3 scholarship. Oh, we're talking scholarships, aren't we? Yeah, he'll get a D3 look, for sure. And that'll be his life. And then he has to figure out what to do from there once he drops out. My kid will play basketball for a school that has 100 students in it. That's about it.

Right. I think that the government should make Serena and LeBron just have a kid. They don't have to raise it. The government will raise it, but I want to see what happens. I feel like China would do that. I feel like China does do that. I feel like they take the smart ones and the big ones.

If they were just like, okay. Careful with China right now. Yep. We're team China. Pro China? We're pro China. Oh, wait. If you haven't seen Making a Gambler from last night yet,

go watch Making a Gambler. We are big time. Fucking. Pro China. I've seen it. It's fucking awesome. There's a lot of China in there. I got to be a part of that one.

That's going to be a good episode. But this also, this question reminded me of one of my only favorite late night jokes i ever heard um i don't care for late night television but uh tom brady was on letterman after like the course is the 04 season 04 champion of superbowl or something like that and letterman kind of like, now is it true that a woman wrote to you asking for your sperm? And Tom was like sheepishly like, yeah. And Dave's like, did you agree to it? He goes, no, I didn't do that. And Letterman goes,

you should have. And then send her Vince Wilforks. That's very funny. Imagine the surprise when a bowling ball comes out of you. This baby is 23 pounds, like 19 inches, and dark. What happened?

You thought a fucking GQ cover model was coming out. Vinny Wilfork, the legend. The legend. If that happened to me, at first you'd be like, wait, what the fuck? And then if Tom was like, hey, it's Vince Wilforks, I'd be like, okay. Okay. I'll take that too.

Vince Wilfork is still one of my favorite moments. He probably is. You wanted that buddy kid. You got him. Vince Wilfork is definitely. Faster, stronger, quicker, all of it. He's everything. He's definitely a better athlete than Tom.

But that's like one of the most underrated days here for me. Vince Wilfork just came into radio. Even I like that. With a 30 rack and a 10 of Copenhagen. It was like, let's rap, boys. And he fucking clowned on like the butt frated days here for me. Vince Wilfork just came into radio. Even I like that. With a 30 rack and a tin of Copenhagen. It was like, let's rap, boys. And he fucking clowned on the butt fumble and all that shit. He was really letting it fly. That was great.

The 30 rack was awesome. He was so cool, man. He was there sponsoring Bud Light, but it was just like, even that's cool. He's like, yeah, Bud Light pays me. I'm a fucking man. I hate when I like Patriots. All right, last voicemail of the day is brought to you by Quip. Gotta have those pearly whites. Shout out toe coy he was on the episode uh yesterday last episode great smile million dollar smile the whole time we were talking about how he used to

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it was, he, he, was he i had done that and i done what i i i went to the bathroom to brush my teeth okay and i didn't and i i would even i would go so far to fake it as i brush i would like brush like a towel instead so like maybe you could hear the noise you might as well just be doing it might as well just be doing it. So I didn't do it. And he like, I forget how it all went down. He like came in and felt the toothbrushes. Yeah. I guess he was on to my tricks.

Yeah. And was so fucking pissed at me for lying to him that he like just stormed out of the bathroom. It was the morning. I was like getting ready for school. So I was in the shower now and I shut the door, was the morning. I was like, get ready for school. So I was in the shower now, and I shut the door, locked the door, and his fucking, when I opened the door, his fucking fist came through. Punched a hole through it?

Punched a hole right through the door. I was like, open this door right now! I was in the shower, like, screaming. I was like, AHHHHH! How old are you at this point? I don't know. Probably like, 7, like I always say. It was just, boom!

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that's what we learned from being dads now that you used to think when your dad freaked out it's like whoa where'd that come from and it's like you realize it's been like three years of frustration what are you talking about yep the inanimate rage the inanimate object rage, my dad is expert in that. He would just beat the shit out of our dishwasher. Just slam the drawers in, kick the fucking door up. And I always think that's weird. And then I realized he was doing that instead of beating us. I'd rather you beat up the dishwasher than me.

I used to be like, Dad, stop doing that. No, Dad, keep doing that. Otherwise, like, no, Dad, keep doing that. Otherwise, you're going to beat up me and my brother and my sister. I think that's how we became a chop your own wood family. My dad was like, I got to go cut down fucking trees. Anyway, toothbrushes. Go to getquip.com. I got the hiccups right now.

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Had a quick hypothetical that popped into my mind here. If you had one of those remote controls like from Click, you know, stop, pause, rewind, fast forward, all that stuff with time. Outside of the perverted answers, what would you guys do with it? What would you use it on? How would you take advantage of it? Say it one more time. Say it again. The remote from Click.

Okay, so that was just like DVR of life, right? Yeah. What would I do with it? I go back. I have one particular play in high school that still sticks out to me. What is it? I was coming in off wing. How old?

I was probably a junior. And I was probably at the top of the circle, and I was kind of cutting back towards the net, and some kid kind of dropped down to a knee to kind of just block off the area, hold the stick out. And I put the puck over. I kind of flipped it over his stick, and then I jumped over him completely

and just ended up all alone and just missed top corner. I'd go back, and I'd take that shot a thousand times until it happens. Because all my friends friends right behind the net and they were already celebrating. They were like, ah! Just put it in their face. That's like when you cross somebody up

and you don't hit the shot. We were playing Worcester Academy. We were already up like 6-1, I think. We didn't need this goal, but I needed it. I needed that goal. If I scored that goal, I'm the CEO of a company. That changes everything. That's just true.

It's so true man that's why like to go back to the sports the the cum thing though it's like if you're you know if your son is you know that much better at high school basketball not he's not going pro but like he'll be successful yeah he'll be more successful when he is like the star um yeah if i had that goal if i scored that goal i probably like i'm have a sad day in my life whatever you said just think of that done I so vividly remember my picture of my friends

getting so disappointed and sad and I was like you gotta be fucking my buddy Tommy D'Agostino he was an awesome hockey player and we were in like my high school's hockey Pelham hockey was always very very good i think they actually just won the state title like a couple years ago and i think it was like

our first one ever because we were always really really really good but we always fell short and in the like county championship or some sort of championship he had a penalty shot and he missed it and he was like very very good like i'm sure 99 out of 100 times he probably buries that or some shit and we were playing beer pong and it was down to like the last shot and like we're all kind of like trying to distract each other and shit and i said something like don't miss this like you missed that and it was like record scratch like like you know the guy was like yeah well your mom died of cancer i was like like, Oh, I went too far. I went too far.

It was too far. Okay. I'll see myself out. It was brutal. I actually saw maybe I'll rewind and not say that. Also probably rewind and pay someone to do the shoveling. Let's get it to these interviews. Who do we got first?

Let's do Matt Barnes. Matt Barnes first talking his new podcast. I got another complaint about underwear real quick. Oh boy. Wait, they were starting to make it from this nylon type texture where I'm just, I'm just, Matt Brown's first talking his new podcast. I got another complaint about underwear real quick. Oh, boy. We're starting to make it from this nylon-type texture. I'm just sweating so much. If you watch it on call, I'm just picking away at myself right now.

It's like I got a nice cotton boxer. You know what I'm saying? Dude, go get the Viva Boxers. I know. I would like a pair. Yeah, I'll get you some. Okay. I'll get you some.

They make your dick look good. Our already okay dicks make it look even better. All right, interviews first. Like I said, Matt Barnes, new podcast out. We're talking NBA in China. We're talking NBA and sports in general with cannabis. And I like Matt Barnes. He's a really cool guy. I really enjoy talking to Matt Barnes.

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on like that shirt oh thank you sharp thank you for having me appreciate it yeah how we doing i mean last time we talked you're talking about all your you got a lot of different business interests and a lot of things going on uh biggest thing really last time we spoke was i you know it was we were working on creating a podcast for myself and steven jackson you know happy to say we've done that uh we've seen it with showtime and we'll be launching very soon. That's a fucking deal. October 17th, right? Yeah, so I'm excited to, like I said,

to turn that into a dream and really to start navigating our way through this podcast game. What do you think you guys are going to talk about on the first episode? Anything big happening in the NBA? Any NBA talk going on? I think we'll definitely cover basketball and sports in general,

but I just think more life. Oh, yeah. You know, the culture, social injustice, you know, the climate of where we are in society today. You know, I really want to kind of be a well-rounded. Obviously, I think sports is going to get us in the door, you know, because that's what we're known for. But to really just, you know, kind of show our versatility on different subjects and really be able to cover a wide variety of different topics.

That is the trick with podcasting, where it's like one thing. It's a bait and switch. You never really talk. All our podcasts here, we have a golf podcast. They talk about golf a little bit, but it's a little bit about life. It's just like a theme that kind of ties into it. That'll get you in the door and you know that'll get the people to follow no but even like on a small level people be like uh guests who don't aren't quite familiar like oh it's barstool sports so like are we gonna

be talking about like you know what's going on the playoffs and we're like we don't ever talk about sports man we're talking about anything but that which i can only imagine having played that everyone's going to expect like you're gonna be breaking down x's and o's right and no i mean i'd like to talk about hot topics obviously and really the ins and outs but really just talk about what what else is going on you know i mean i think just through our eyes and our take on it you know because i think we've had a unique experience to get to where we are seen a lot of crazy shit and just to kind of have our take on it and you know to have it raw and uncut how did uh things come about with Steven Jackson? We were, it was crazy.

We were at my house in the Bay Area medicating. And we just started, you know, we both had a good little run with Fox and ESPN as far as, you know, being on their shows and kind of getting good feedback. And I'm just like, you know, we need to do something together. He's like, I'm down. And then that's where we kind of started putting the, you putting the grind to it kind of talking about it we would go back and forth on live you know just talking about issues that were going on at the current time and then showtime came around and you know without us even shooting a show you know took a sight unseen right crazy right took it took a liking to us and a believing in us so we definitely want to thank them and uh you know now they're our

new partner and we're launching with them this is one of the few times a business idea that you concocted high on drugs right i would say uh highly medicated highly medicated and actually you know that actually usually this shit does not work dude we gotta open up our yeah right when we do this is the dumbest shit in the world like the worst ideas ever. You guys come through and Showtime's like, yeah, we'll just give you money for it. Cool, man. Let's do it. So wait, it's podcast, but Showtime's airing it kind of like a video element to it? Yeah, there's a video component to it, as well as audio.

And like I said, I couldn't be more excited and more thankful to Showtime for really taking a chance on us. Really unproven in this space. But like I said, we've done reputable work for other networks. I think I could say we're all excited about getting started. So this will be week to week? Weekly, yep. So it's interesting in a sense that it's like

they don't know what they're going to get each week, right? That's a gamble on their part too. Like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're going to get. Are there any restrictions? We'll let the, take the shackles off, but don't,

you know, don't say this, don't say that. Oh boy. You know what I mean? It's really a, a bare canvas. And,

uh, I think, you know, we're looking to be really creative within that space. And so you've already filmed this episode? No, we haven't. Oh,

so you haven't done that yet. Any, uh, anything on like any, we have some, we have some, yeah, we have,

we have some cool guests that we're talking to in the works but like the the announcement that is coming out tomorrow is kind of gonna drop the hammer so we're just supposed to tease and hint about it right now but we have some really cool people in in the spotlight right now that we're working on securing um as guests and we're gonna have fun with it i we're going to have fun with it. I'll be interested to see how like, I want to compare this episode, come back in like six months or a year because like I used to kind of be worried, like, all right, how long is it going to be? What's going to happen?

Let's talk about this, that, the other thing. And now we're like, I don't know, I'll just press record and we'll figure it out. Just go with the flow. Yeah. And I'm sure you guys learned a lot along the way. You know what I mean? I've done several podcasts, but I've never, I mean, I've been interviewed on podcasts, but I've never had my own way you know i mean i've done several podcasts but i've never i mean i've been interviewed on podcasts but i've never had my own you know so i'm sure there's going to be

you know some learning and growing and you know changing this changing that but i'm excited to just like you said really just press play and get going is there a clear like host and co-host situation yeah uh i mean i would call my i mean i would probably just say we're both co-hosts i guess you know what i mean i think we'll'll both carry our own weight, carry each other, piggyback off each other, disagree, agree. It's going to be a lot of times with friends, you don't know, oh, they always agree with each other. But there are several things that he and I are very close on but don't agree on.

So I think it will be good for us to kind of have our own point of view and fire at each other with it. Just be careful on Twitter, bro, because we've seen what one tweet can do, man. This shit is crazy. The domino effect of just a badly timed tweet can have major financial implications. It's not even financial. I mean, yes, it is very financial,

but it's like world-troll. It's also a fucking history book. I think it's bigger than basketball now. I think what I will say is I think the biggest problem will be financially. But I think the game continues to grow so much. And they realize, like, the players didn't really do anything well. You know, it was a GM.

And with China being, like, the fastest growing market in the NBA space, I think it'll be a matter of time. Hopefully, it'll be resolved. But I think the excitement for the game and the growth of the game will continue to grow. I think it's going to obviously take some financial hits early on. It's already started to, but I think overall, you know, hopefully this is handled by the powers above, and then we come to some sort of common ground so we can get back to just entertaining.

You know, the reason why players go out there in the summertime and the reason why the NBA takes teams out there during the season is to entertain. You know, they have an amazing fan base a very knowledgeable fan base and as players we enjoy going out there to to you know to put on a show for them so I hope we can get back to the simplicity of the reason why we're out there in the first place and not really dwell on what a poorly timed tweet you know someone in management made I think I think the NBA takes a bit of a hit though because it is such like uh it's so viewed as a league that's like big on social justice and things like that

and when you're kind of like well hang on you guys can't talk about this at all and I do think it is a different country and then that brings in a whole new element of it but even that I'm like Kerr can't talk about this I completely agree with you because I think obviously first and foremost what makes America great is our freedom of speech and I think what makes

the NBA platform so amazing is we've always spoke up on things but what amazing is we've always spoke up on things. But what I say, we think we speak up on things that we're passionate and we're knowledgeable about. And I think this, this tweet hit everyone off,

off guard and no one was prepared or, or, or had the research or had done the research to really, you know, educatedly, educatedly speak on the matter. But I hear what you're saying, you know,

because like I said, we're backpedaling. Oh, well maybe, you know, we, we apologize for this and we shouldn't have said that. But at the end of the day, here, everyone's free to speak their mind.

And I think that's, you know, what makes our sport in our country so great is people, you know, we can agree to disagree, but it's not going to have a domino effect. But, you know, that we have to respect that that's not how it goes in other countries. Yeah. You know what I mean? So it's a big, you know – Adam Silver has a tough job. I remember when he first came on the job was when I was with the Clippers when Sterling had that racial rant. And he handled that quick and swiftly and came out looking great. This is not going to be as easy, obviously, and I think this has bigger implications. On one side, you have the biggest market, the money, everything you just said.

On the other hand, you have a guy who just exercised freedom of speech and was defending democracy. It's not like he said anything bad. His tweet's actually positive. At all. But you've got to be, I mean. It's a tough situation to be in because, like I said, you get politicians weighing in, well, he shouldn't have backpedaled,

and we need to stand for it, and he needs to support it. I get all that, and you never really want to do anything for the financial gain or place morals or values above the financial gain. But the financial value of China to the NBA is astronomical. I mean, for the most part, they probably just want the bottom line and want the money to be good. But you could make the argument that with that money and with that growth that you can do much more of the progressive things that you want to do. So you can kind of achieve both at the same time. But, man, I can't imagine waking up and being Adam Silver that first day, being like, wait, what? things that you want to you know so you can kind of achieve both at the same time yeah but man i

can't imagine waking i can't imagine waking up and being adam silver that first day being like wait what i can't imagine daryl morey being i can't imagine being the players the winners and the whole like scared to go outside i keep saying well we haven't heard from lebron and we haven't heard from so like to me what is the point of that you know i mean like i said unless he what they're probably not really versed on the subject i see no positive benefit from players speaking on it you know that's why i'm kind of glad that everyone kind of just has i think people are more well versed now but i remember when it first happened i was like wait i know china is bad but i thought it was like kind of like your friend who's like we still do olympics there all our companies are there like

it can't be that bad and they're like're like, actually, we have a concentration camp. They have what? Once you kind of pull back the layers and start looking at what they're protesting about, you understand why they're protesting. A lot of it makes sense. And like I said, it's just a touchy situation. We live in a place where we're pro people. They live in a place where there's not. You know what I mean?

So there's going to be getting in bed with them to begin with. One day we're going to run into this problem. You know mean and we've ran into it so like i said i hope you know i wish adam silver the best and i hope that like i said we can you know find a common ground because they are a huge part of how this game has grown and and their fan base is being so knowledgeable and all the business perspectives that come not only for the league but for the players you know a lot of players players, their businesses thrive over there. That's like I'm in China Clay. It's like every offseason.

He's the biggest deal. Amazing. You know what I mean? And him being with ANTA and ANTA kind of really. So I kind of wonder, is it more these companies that are kind of forward or is it the government over there kind of putting pressure on these companies? You know what I mean? Because I heard one day the teams couldn't practice because they had to sand sponsors off the court.

You know what I mean? So is it really like these sponsors all of a sudden really don't mess with the nba anymore is there a little outside push yeah i mean shit moves so fast where they're pulling down you know painting over things it's like you're sitting you're like kairi and you're sitting here with everyone you just look out of the window and they're ripping your face call my agent like get me home right fucking now man you know I'm glad that did you ever play with her at all

or anything yeah I went over there three times last time I went over there it was cool I got food poison last time so it sucked

that I went with the Clippers but you know it was always good to just go and play in another country and really put on a show

you know that's when I was with Lob City I think we went yeah Lob City so you know we put on a show out there

and the fans loved it and I think you know it's kind of catch 22 because like you said we are so outspoken for things in the united states you know what i mean but i think that's good but that also makes sense too right like everyone's closer to us it's closer to home it's something we're passionate about it's something that affects affects us daily you know although you know we may not agree what's going on over there

it doesn't directly affect us on a daily basis so we don't our lives are so busy we don't really take the time to dive into it now that we have since you know the whole situation i can understand why it feels hypocritical because steve kerr and greg popovich will speak out about trump or whatever maybe but like you just said it's like we you're not watching the news every night in china you don't know like steve kerr sees like a mass shooting and wants to speak on that because he knows about that and he's fighting about that and he's not as affected by china i can i can get where it's hypocritical but it's also like i don't know man that's this is what i'm passionate about and this i don't know that much right now it's convenient when the thing you don't know about makes you a billion

dollars i understand all sides of it but to be like no you have to speak on this and have to speak on that like the whole point is no i don't you don't have to that that's what makes it great is we don't have to speak on it so like i, I don't see any clear winner or way to make this work, but they're going to have to figure something out. Yeesh, I'm not jealous of that. I was just reading an article on ESPN today about sleep deprivation in the NBA. Is that something that you – I think Tobias Harris had a wild call on it where he said sleep deprivation in the NBA will be talked about in the future like CTE

is talked about in football. I believe it. Really? You believe it? Yeah, because people don't understand the schedule we have, you know, the travel schedule we have where we can play tonight and we're in New York, so we have a game against the Knicks hypothetically. We go on double overtime, but then still we've got to fly to Indiana and we're on TNT tomorrow, so you've got to

think we played a double overtime game in New York, so we're not going to get to Indiana until three or four in the morning. You can't go right to sleep. Well, I used to cause I smoke, but normal people can't go right to sleep. And then you got to wake up and perform on TNT the next day. You know what I mean?

So there's a really, I remember when I was in Orlando in 09, it was a big talk. Cause I, Doc Rivers, um, in the Celtics really adapted this sleep thing and there were, they wouldn't do shoot arounds and all practices would start like around 11 or 12 really so guys can get rest because

travel time zones time changes it really wears on us and uh we don't get the adequate amount of sleep we're supposed to get especially for everything we're putting our bodies through so it was so i think um might have been white side or something like that i'd said it it's like it's almost the thing that people don't talk about. Everyone knows about it, but it's not publicly a thing. So it is a lot throughout the year. How much sleep do you say you get on an average night mid-season? It just depends on if we're home or away.

You love home stretches because you kind of know your schedule and you know that you're going to be able to go to bed and wake up at a certain time. But as soon as you get on that plane and go somewhere else, it's kind of up to the mercy of what happened the night before. Did we play a regular game? Was there delays at the airport? Was, you know, was something not working?

Were there mechanical failures on the plane? So we had to wait. So there's a lot of unknowns, you know. So when you're home, you kind of stick to your schedule and you can get, you know, I was someone who would sleep out, you know. I was someone who was around to sleep around 12 to midnight and, you know, probably get my eight hours around eight or nine and then you know practice would be at 11 so i would get at home i would get my sleep but like i said there's no telling what time changes you know it's a two hours behind three hours behind you know how late were we what time do we arrive at because you know we don't you don't you never right when you land you never go to sleep i think that the travel is

the crazy part because the hardest part i imagine hockey game hockey players do a similar thing because you guys have very comfortable schedules. But it was the, I think it was like comparing it to football players where you guys travel like three times what a football player travels per season or something like that. Or at least five times. I mean, you're traveling, you have eight away games as a football player versus 42. I think you do enough to travel around the world twice and all that. It's like flights in one season. That crazy some international shit yeah that's one thing that yeah that people don't understand it's funny like i remember back when i was married and you know

sometimes my wife at the time would travel with us and she didn't understand like like she couldn't handle like okay like we just landed now we got on a ride on the bus for 30 minutes to the hotel at three in the morning and then we got to wait for our bags to come and then we're finally settled in and then you're hungry, and it's 5 a.m. You eat something, you try to go to sleep and get breakfast. There's a lot of shit that goes into it that you just don't account for. They had some stuff where they were quoting what other players did

to kind of combat that. LeBron has, I don't know, he's fucking rich as shit. I think they said he spends seven figures per year on his webchamber and stuff like that. And it's like... Quite worth it. I think Chris Paul doesn't have... With three hours before bed or something like that, he can't have any electronics. Once he goes into his house, he puts his phone on airplane mode.

It seems like... Yeah, I mean, you got to... Each... You know, everyone's different. You know what I mean? So whatever works for one person may work, may not work. work you know some guys may spend a shitload of money but you know i know you know back in the day guys would have a drink to go to bed some guys would take sleeping pills to go to bed you know i was someone that smoked you know i mean and that was somewhat that always relaxed me

you know relaxed my body took some pain away and helped me sleep you know so that's another thing where you know i'm pushing this advocacy for cannabis so hard and really trying to put pressure on the n NBA and the NFL is because this is something that could really help us. But all you're continuing to do is fine us and suspend us and paint a black eye for people who use it. But you see guys come in. Percy Harvin came out and said he was high every single game.

Megatron came out and said he smoked after every single game. Yeah, so Percy Harvin, it was almost like timing. It was like Megatron was like, I smoked after every game. Percy was like, bitch, I smoked before every game. I was someone that smoked before games and after games. You know what I mean? And it worked for me. And I still did some off-the-wall shit.

I couldn't imagine if I wasn't smoking, where would I have been? So it's something that really, to me, I just think people need to take more time and educate themselves because there has to be something to it if all these 1% elite athletes are using it you know it's not people just think oh they want to get high that's so much more than just getting high you know so that's why you know with i'm working with uc atlanta cannabis research program i have my own line called swish coming out with cbd and thc products soon and then i have a company called seven leaves so i'm heavily ingrained in this space but i really want to be the shield with myself and al harrington you know for guys that can't speak on it or freely do it yet um to kind of let these leagues know like this is important this is stuff that's really helping players and

you guys continue to fine us and suspend us and some guys are losing their career over this shit i'm stunned the nba is is they're pretty progressive on a lot of things like social media it's crazy like this is where they're gonna like draw the line well i think we're everyone's stuck on just the old, you know, we've been spoon fed for so long that it's a gateway drug and this happens and that happens. It's all a bunch of bullshit. You know what I mean?

So I think now that the NBA and the Players Association are, you know, really researching it hard with their own doctors and trying to find a common ground, you know, from my understanding is the Players Association is pro cannabis. The NBA is anti, you know, so hopefully we can come to a common ground and understand that it's it's something that's definitely it's a gateway it's a gateway drug to get into the drugs they allow you to take like what the fuck is that we can get any over the you know we can get any any opioid you can imagine we can go to the trainer and get is that how we can get anything they need

to sign off on some shit or you could be like yo yo, bud, give me that. And he has like no questions asked. Now the higher level drugs, we have to get signed off by the team doctor. But all you got to do, I need this for this and we'll get it. You know what I mean? I don't know how football goes, but football say they just have it out like, you know, a bag of Skittles. You know what I mean? You can get whatever you want. So you're pumping us full of this shit you know is masking one problem and causing other problems, but then you want to penalize us for something that has had

no side effects and has shown nothing but positive outcomes when we use it. Crazy. Speaking about how you want to be an advocate and all that, I saw I'm going to guess this is a tease kind of deal, but is there anything

with you and Stephen A coming down the pipe? Hopefully. Hopefully. You know what I mean? He's someone, you know, Stephen A is Stephen A, you know what I mean? Either you love him or you hate him. I respect the shit out of him. I don't think anyone hates him. I think people hated Skip and I think he kind of got like

one Skip letter and everyone was like, Stephen A is just the man. You know, but to me with his platform and really how, he's not only a voice in sports, he's a voice, period. So for me, my challenge to him was really to educate himself on it because he's speaking with these stereotypes. I'm coming in high and acting like he's high and all this kind of stuff.

And I understand his stance where he was saying, you know, if it affects your money, think twice about it. But like I said earlier, if it's something has to be with this plant that everybody, not everybody, but a lot of guys are choosing to use that over the opioids they're pumping us full. So my thing with him is to really just educate yourself because he can be a great advocate, although he doesn't do it. He could be someone that understands the benefits from it and really be a platform and a voice that, you know, advocates for it as well. I wonder if that's an age thing too, like as younger analysts and younger speaking

heads get in more prominent positions, if they're like, yeah, it's not a big deal, the rest of the public kind of follow suit. It might just be a time thing. It could be. I think you touched on a great point because I want to say Ricky Williams came in this space about eight years ago and it probably cost him his career. Absolutely. I mean, he was

like a running joke, like a pothead. You know what I mean? It cost him his career it was absolutely i mean he was like a running joke like a pothead you know i mean it cost him his career and then you know i come in in 2017 uh you know fresh off a championship i do a piece for bleach report and then the kind of the floodgates start opening as far as okay well you know athletes are speaking on canada and talking about it and smoking it on tv and it's just like you know to me ricky i mean obviously it goes back to bill walton smoking it world back in the day all this kind of stuff. But to me, Ricky Williams was one of the first people to really come out and take a stand on it. And unfortunately, you know, he sacrificed a lot, but, you know, together, I think a lot of athletes have to continue to speak on their experience. I think, you know, if we can remove the stigma of being high from the plant and use

the educational, the beneficial side of it and guys continue to tell their stories, you know what I mean? Like I said, we can talk until we're blue in the face, but now that there's medical research backing up what we're saying and more guys are just coming out and explaining their relationship with the plant, I think that only helps. Are there guys like – does a guy like LeBron use it and not speak about it? Would you know that? Or does he keep it quiet for that reason?

I don't know if he does, but I'm thinking super, super stars that have to use it have to keep it quiet because of all their sponsors right you know what i mean so but i just think that the first guy at the same time if a superstar stepped up and like hey you know i use this to heal like and i don't he'll probably never no like a whole industry himself but a guy like that it's like i'm a great father i'm a movie star i'm an mvp i'm a champion i'm a businessman i'm an actor i'm you know all while smoking cbd whatever it may be i think the world would have to be like oh okay you know that would be i think that would be a shortcut to the path we're on yeah but like you said who knows if a superstar will ever really step up you think that moves the needle that much more than someone like you doing it because it's like we're talking about

elite athletes i think we're talking about it right it's a fraction of you know the needle that much more than someone like you doing it because it's like we're talking about elite athletes i think we're talking about it right it's a fraction you know the fact that you know the the 450 guys in the whole world playing the nba you know so whether it's me talking about it i think it does move the needle when you talk about superstars doing it you know and i'm sure not saying lebron does but i'm sure there are superstars in the nfl and the nba they do use it you know what i mean and i think what i want to do is I kind of want to be that shield for those guys to kind of make it so that they're not penalized or they don't lose their endorsements or they don't, you know, lose any money speaking on it. And then hopefully open the door for those guys to say like, okay, now that it is okay

and more acceptable, I've been using it my whole career or I use it. I use it. This is when I use it. You know what I mean? That performance? I was high. I go whatever, you know? When I dropped 80, when Kobe said when I dropped 81, I was in the clouds.

That would be dope. Do you think there's a, going back to the rocket shit, I feel like if I was an owner or a front office guy, it would be so much easier to just be like, no social media on my team. Would someone like that ever fly? No, not at all. You just can't. Like I said, not here.

Forget about legally or constitutionally. Just player like player wise guys want to be on social media enough that they'd be like well then fuck you i'm not playing i think you continue guys would grow there but there's so much stuff that comes from i mean there's a lot of negative but a lot of positive comes from social media growing your brand and showing the world who you are and gaining more sponsors or partnerships through their brand. So that's another thing. I don't think more positive happens. It's just the negative stands out so much. The negative stands out. What if there was a, like, you know, like a three strikes policy?

There can't be any sanctions. So no restrictions. I mean, I've been someone who's been fined by the NBA for, you know, using inappropriate language on social media. But, I mean, that's just a fine that I would take. You know, like I said, it maybe happened two, three, four times. But I don't think there's anything where you can tell like I'm a grown ass man you can't tell me what

I can and can't do you know so I don't think that well to me it wasn't like he was saying the worst shit in the world it was just poorly timed you know and I guarantee when he sent it he wasn't thinking that it would have any kind of ramifications like it has so far

he apologized and he did and then he deletes it and all that kind of stuff. I understand for the business, but like I said, I think what makes us so great as a country and the NBA specifically being so great is that we are always allowed to speak our minds. I'm looking forward to more of this stuff. You and Steven Jackson are going to crush it. I appreciate it, man. So that drops on the 17th.

Drops soon, yeah. Drops soon showtime and be on the lookout for more Matt Barnes man I appreciate you guys having me thank you man alright big thank you

to Matt Barnes such a soft spoken guy yeah a gentle giant he really is I love the fact that he's got his own show even though he's definitely not

huh even though he's definitely not is he he had two decades of evidence or a decade of evidence that he's not a gentle giant but he can be a gentle giant more often than though he's definitely not. Is he? Well. He had two decades of evidence or a decade of evidence that he's not a gentle giant. But he can be a gentle giant. More often than not he's a gentle giant.

When he's high on drugs. Speaking of high on drugs Rude Jude Angelini is here. So we'll get into this interview with Rude Jude we chop it up all things all weird things with your boy Rude. That's always a guarantee. Catch you guys next episode next week.

Bye. I cannot believe this. All right, let's get it going. Rude Jude is back in the motherfucking building. It's good to be back. Yeah, man. You're looking fresh. I like the style you got going.

You never know what Jews are going to come in with. You got that Seeger shirt on. Yeah. Yeah, man, I've had this Bob Seeger Night Moves fucking flea market shirt for like 15, 16 years now. Really? Yeah, it's perfectly thin. When you find a good one, you got to latch on to it.

It's cool. What y'all can't see, it says Night Moves across the top, but then it has the purple rain motorcycle on it. I was confused at first. I actually got it in my own head. I was like, fuck, wait. But then here's the crazy shit. I don't even think the t-shirt maker knew this shit. Prince was touring behind Seger.

And he had all, like, before Purple Rain came out, he had all the, like, the controversy and Party Like Us 1999. He didn't have any arena jams. And he was like, Seger's got fucking arena jams. And that's one of the things that inspired him to write Purple Rain. No shit. Yeah, so it's like, it comes together on that fucking shirt on accident, which makes it even better. You go deep with the music, huh?

Yeah, man, I love that shit. I was raised on it. Yeah, I mean, I remember the first couple times talking to you with your background with Eminem and your whole style. I just assumed it was rap music, and it's actually very far from that, right? Yeah. My sister was what they called a mod

back in the day. So she was like Smith, Secure. Why was that called a mod? Because they were like modern. They were mods. They were mods. And they wear creeper shoes

and shit like that. They were like damn near goths but not as bummed out. I guess the fucking, I guess the equivalent nowadays would be gender fluid. That's the new one. It's impossible to compare old to new these days. Straight up.

This shit's gotten so fucking weird. I actually think the Smiths and shit, that's just straight up everybody now. It's just like depression. Are you super duper sad? Well, that's the way that's the weird shit like it's like going to these fucking like i'm going to like these fancy bars out here and they're playing like mop or they're playing the smiths all this like weird shit that was underground in the fucking 80s and 90s and i was like hey i get to listen to this while i'm paying

for a 45 steak that's fucking awesome i got i got i wasn't like big on the Smiths and I got big. They did a song and fuck was it? Hang the DJ. Yeah. Was the black hair. Yeah. And I was like, this is fucking awesome.

I started listening to more Morrissey and I was like, this is fucking sad. This is my shit right here. I only listen to sad music exclusively. So I thought Smiths was only for like sad white people. And then I went, I went to fucking, I went to like Smith's night in Los Angeles and I walked up in that bitch and it looked like La Bamba then I went to fucking, I went to like Smith's night in Los Angeles

and I walked up in that bitch and it looked like La Bamba. I swear to God. Really? Yeah, like rockabilly Mexicans. I would not have guessed that. Yeah, fuck me up too. I'm like, what the fuck?

Am I at the right fucking club? Is it Richie Vandland's night? But they was like, nah, dude, we fuck with the Smiths, son. I didn't say, they were like, yo, way, we barely fuck with the, wes son like i didn't say that they're like yo way we we barely

fuck with us we barely listen to the smiths man what do you keep up with any new music i found myself falling like exactly into like old white man territory where i'm like they don't make them like they used to and this shit sucks it's like i didn't even i didn't even attempt to try to like stay modern with it I just I became that like that grumpy old man type of man yeah

the stay off my lawn guy yeah yeah but you know what I was thinking about that I was thinking about that like if I had a lawn stay off my fucking lawn that's a pretty reasonable request

I work really hard like stay off my fucking lawn like I bought my mom a house and this couple was walking by and their dog took a shit on our neither one of like we didn't grow up i grew up in an apartment so we didn't even give a fuck about dogs so this dog takes a shit on the lawn and it just has the wettest

diarrhea and they're like trying to scrape it up and they're like sorry and we're just we're both looking at them like i can stay off my lawn like for real dude like we just like whatever dude like i'm not gonna fucking argue with people. I don't know if it's because I'm older or because I've never heard it explained so concisely. Yeah, that's a perfectly

reasonable response. Yes. I feel rude now forever using that as like a pejorative. Yeah. Like, yeah. If you're walking up

to my house, you're like, you walk on the fucking pathway. Right. Otherwise, don't fucking trounce around on the grass.

Or like, if you're my family, you can play on my lawn but like bro I don't know you motherfucker get off my goddamn shit why would you I don't want to be on your lawn

it's crazy do you know what the property tax is in this neighborhood I'm paying for shit I already own motherfucker that's really the difference is when like the reason you become

like a crotchety old man is because of your fucking bills and taxes and things like that and these dumb kids who are like you know playing on your lawn or whatever don't realize it that's why you're we were talking about that like i was talking about that with another old dude like i had some young cat that i'm cool with like he hopped in my car and changed the station and i was i was about to smack him i'm like yo are you fucking kidding me dude like you're touching like

don't touch the thermometer in my shit. Don't fucking touch anything. You're getting a ride. You know what's worse than that for me? I'd rather you fuck with my station. I'd rather you break my stereo than get in the car and make a phone call. I think that's ten times worse. What the fuck are you doing, dude? I have one buddy who in high school used to get in the car, make phone calls,

and then when he was done, he'd put in headphones and just take a nap. I mean, come on now. You charged him. Did you charge him? He's probably best ready to come coming to see me tomorrow, but still, the point is I'll crash his fucking car and I'll give a shit. I'll kill us both. If you get in an Uber, will you have a conversation?

I won't initiate a conversation. Will you have a phone call? I won't start one. No, usually not. It's like my mom. I'll be like, I gotta go. No, usually not. It's like my mom. I'll be like, I got to go. No, I will. They're fucking Uber.

They are paying. I've had arguments. I am paying them. I hang up. I'm like, sorry about that. That's that New York City shit in you, though. That's that you grew up and it didn't really matter who heard your conversations. Yeah.

I remember one time when I was 15, I was talking on my phone in my room about a party we'd gone to. And my mom heard it all. And from that point on, I've been like, anyone can be hearing what I'm saying right now. And I won't talk on planes. I won't talk unless I'm in a room alone. I won't talk about being rude to a regular person, but someone that I'm hiring you. I'll talk about, I'll yell in front of you. I'll talk about fucking in front of you.

At that point, I'm like, whatever. And I'll take it one step further. Like, one step further is like, you get off your fucking phone. And like, yo, bro, you got one job to do. And that's to fucking drive me. I've always thought that, that one of the worst positions in life to be in must be friends with either cab drivers or bodega drivers. Who the fuck are they talking to all day?

Yeah. They just call. I don't want to talk to you right now. I'm at work. I have a job. I'd rather not just be on the phone with a cab driver all day. They, they just call. I don't want to talk to you right now. I'm at work. I have a job. I'd rather not just be on the phone with a cab driver all day. They just talk like 12 hours a day. It's funny.

So my mom does landscaping. Hey, y'all, in the middle of America, white people still do outdoor work. Just letting you know. So my mom does landscaping. That's some hardcore shit, man. Yeah, she's like 60-something. Yeah, she's 60-something. And that's why I bought her the damn house.

I'm like, fuck, man. Like, you know, like, you're coming home from a hard day. Like, at least let's get you a house. That's a nice move, by the way. I've always wanted to be able to do that. Instead, I'm borrowing money for them right now. Yeah. Well, you're in a different situation than me.

But, like, she said the same shit, man. She works with some other ladies, and they just be on the phone all fucking day. Just, ba-da, ba-da, ba-da. That's my Spanish. Not only do I not have anybody that I could call, but I don't even want to talk all day. No. Do enough of that shit here. I go home, and I'm zip that shit up.

I don't talk at all. I'll do it with my mom. She knows. She's just like, you got to take your mom. Yeah. But she knows the only time we'll call is walking home. Yeah. And that's it. The walk home, the drive home. You're so Jewish your mom. Yeah. But she knows the only time we'll call is walking home. Yeah. And that's it.

Walk home, the drive home. You're so Jewish, bro. Yeah. I'm not Jewish. You should be. Jude out, bro. I'll call my mom. I call my mom every day.

He's like seven times already. I talk to my mom at least once a day, sometimes twice a day. I'm a big mama's boy, bro. You bought yours a fucking house. I know. I bought her a house so she would stop calling me. It just got worse. I like fuck man i thought this was like the hush money turned out it was not you watch tv you don't strike me as a tv guy no i'm kind of you go home you put on music you do some ghp yeah chill i try the only i'll watch old school tv like i

being in the being in like the business i don't know if you realize, like, there's all this shit that I notice that other people don't notice. Like, strategically placed minorities and shit like that. And like, oh, we need a fat lesbian here. I'm like, it's all just seems very contrived to me. So, I, it fucking gets on my nerves. There are, there are points where it's like, it almost feels like it's a college brochure come to life yeah he shows uh yeah you're checking boxes yeah dude and i'm like yo just make a good fucking story if it makes sense it makes sense i'm not mad

about that shit like the spider verse was my shit but they just allowed it to be what the fuck it was so i'm not like oh keep it white but it's just like at the other side it's like virtue signal virtue signal fucking virtue signal i want to vomit i'm good i feel you but i also i'm not gonna let that get in the way of like if i like a show or a story or something that's cool but i'm not getting paid off of that shit so i'm like it's just a reminder i'm sitting there like well i can't get a fucking, but too bad I'm not a goddamn transsexual lesbian. But I am.

I mean, you could be. I am. I keep claiming that they don't believe me. And if you don't fuck me, it's a hate crime, ladies. I'm just letting you know. Male to woman lesbian. I'll eat the fuck out of your pussy. I got a big ass clit. Clit's big as shit. Fuck with me.

You guys are laughing. I'm serious. You gotta work the angles. You saw this kid floating around on Twitter yesterday. The vaccine kid. Let me show you this picture. Nah, dude. Is he dead? Oh, I'm sorry. I thought I did. So he fucking his parents wouldn't vaccinate him.

He's like a little kid, like second grade or some shit. And so they pulled him out of school. They were like, if you don't get vaccinated, you cannot come to our school. So the classmates made this sign for him. Come on. This can't be real. We will miss you, Zachary. That was their idea.

He's crying his fucking eyes out. And the parents are saying that it's a religious reason. Send that to me for White People Wednesday, please. Yeah, this is some White People Wednesday to the max. So this guy who tweeted it out, nothing to do with him, I think, just like a Twitter personality. A kid cries as he holds a goodbye note his classmates wrote in goodbye. As he is kicked out of school in New york by the bigoted ignorant democratic party lawmakers uh bought off by big pharma who repealed religious religious exceptions this is straight up hate and

discrimination hashtag vaccines just say he's muslim let us ask back in that bitch i'm like sorry dude you know what is the funny you want to talk about white people wednesday dude what's look at the names on here man it's It's like Aiden and Colton. Jackson. Year? Y-I-E-R. Year? Olivia.

Olivia's literally on there. Basically, anybody who died 20 years ago, that name is the jam now. Like, oh, Olivia. Yeah, man. Alden. I mean, if you're still not vaccinating your kids, you're a fucking idiot. Oh, Olivia. Oh. Yeah, man. Alden. I mean, if you're still not vaccinating your kids, you're a fucking idiot. Yo, look, man.

I'll even be like, yo, you can wait a certain amount of time because it's a little bit like vaccinating when they're like three or some shit. But you got to do it. Handle that shit. My homegirl, she's a nurse. And she's just like, man, all these rich motherfuckers' kids are coming down with crazy fucking medieval ass diseases. The irony is we got the bums and hobos and rich motherfuckers just bringing back all the fucking- All the bad diseases, man.

And you know whose fault it is? We just let her do whatever she wants. Jenny McCarthy. Yeah. She's got to cut it out. Jenny McCarthy's patient zero for getting that like mass spread the idea of an anti-vaccination.

We're like, all right, Jenny, why don't you go do red carpets? There's not like one shred of proof. There was like one thing

that looked like it proved there was like a connection between autism and vaccines and then that was totally disproven. But people don't know it was disproven. There's nothing.

It's fucking insanity. You just can't literally just letting your kids die. Well the closest thing we can get to darwin and like look man like jenny's my home girl so i'm not gonna shit on her but like if cats are like yo if you're taking your leaves from jenny that's on you you know that's the thing you gotta know who knows what yeah yeah like look man i got i got homies that are anti-vaxxers i got homies that are pro-vaxxers and neither one of them got kids so i'm just like whatever man fucking i i also think it's like all right fine you you don't

have to uh do it but like schools are gonna have rules and shit but it's gonna be fucking crying i mean that's that's up to you schools went fucking schools got pussy when they started banning fucking like peanuts and shit. I still really swear that peanut allergies had to be born. My thing is this. Why? Because it just didn't exist a long time ago. Yeah, I guess it's some new shit.

It didn't exist. It just happened. My point is this. If you got a peanut allergy, back in the day, you would just have to go eat your lunch far away from everybody. And people could just continue on with their fucking life. Now it's like everybody has to stop their life for this one fucking kid. It's very anti-democratic. It's just like.

The few outweigh the many. I'm saying that on like planes. If you have a peanut allergy, you alert the plane and they just won't serve peanuts. They won't have peanuts on the plane. Man, you should just start bringing peanuts on that bitch just in case. Smuggle them in. You know what I'm saying? I didn't know one kid who had a peanut allergy when I was growing up.

I feel it. I guess I do. I just don't think I ever heard of it. Is it that prevalent now or did we just talk about it more? I don't know. I do feel like it's talked about enough that it's probably like – it's banned on planes. It's banned. I know in my town there was one girl who had one and her father was like hardcore mafioso and like made it a point to like get rid of peanuts.

And everybody in my town was like, no more fucking peanut butter over here. But I think about it with like the same way we talk about like violence and stuff like that. Whereas like people think it's a more violent time because we have so much more access to news, when, in fact, like, it's way less violent now than it ever was. And I think it's kind of, it might be the same, like, people bitch about it more on the internet, but, like, I don't know, do you shake it in school with any of your kids?

I mean, I don't even know if you're, I know that, like, they said something about, like, when it's your birthday, you're allowed to, like, bring safe cupcakes to school. Fuck that. Safe cupcakes. I don't even know. I can't wait to have to work with these kids in fucking 20 years.

Yeah, they're going to be eating them alive, dude. No way, dude. All they're going to do is go to HR and tell on me over and fucking over again. They'll probably end up being your boss real quick. Yeah, they've been trained. They are being trained to snitch. I tried to start working with them now. I tried to join a big brother type thing.

Yeah. They're just like, nah, we're all good. Thanks. Did the application and everything. They're like, nah. Nah. Who was that for? We're all set.

I honestly forget his name. It was just like two years ago. Remember I said. You tried to be a big brother? Yeah. It was like, remember we came to the office and we were talking about what I was going to do on Saturdays and it was going to be like for content. You're like, no way.

Not for content, but it would be great content to talk about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's actually a really cool program where like 90% of the kids are from inner cities and end up going to four-year colleges, all that bullshit. And I applied and they were shit. They said no to you. Yeah, they were good. Damn.

Thanks. Did you tell them that you called your mom every day? The end is full, motherfucker. Wait a minute. But I talked to my mom. She really digs me. These are kids who, you know, theoretically are like down and out. They got nothing. he's all the help

they can get probably no male figure in their life and you're fucking not good enough no they said you we are all set with you thank you damn dog but they do some deep diving or some shit i don't know what it was it was first of all i haven't graduated college and like i think like this is like a very college-based thing so i think maybe one of the requirements is just like like they looked at me like and no four-year degree so I never mind. But also they could have just Googled my name as well.

Fuck if you're like... Both would have been a reasonable way to say no. Fuck that, you're successful. Yeah, right? Fuck being successful. Let's look at the old school ways to judge someone.

To be fair, looking back on it was a real spur-of-the-moment thing. I don't want to get up at 11 a.m. Go over to Brooklyn at 11 a.m. every Saturday. You would be the worst mentor.

I could be so hungover every day you want to take a nap dude? then I'm fucked what should I do John? I don't know just fucking kill yourself I did that you watch Peppa Pig? I'm 17

well talk back to your elders I used to do that when I i was a i was a summer camp counselor in college and i'd just be so hung up it was every single morning you know it was like summer camp and every single morning we played dead fish which is just kids lay on the ground pretend they're dead fish and if you move you lose it's like the fucking quiet game and shit yeah we would take straight up immediately me and like four other counselors we'd all be hung over we would take straight up naps while the kids played dead fish. Damn, it sucks that you couldn't be a part of these children's lives.

Yeah, you were going to be so constructive. Yeah, you were going to be a really positive impact for them. I almost got my white woman on the other day. I got an email. I'm on like an email chain from my kid's teacher. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's fucking two, and he's in school already. All right.

And she sent an email with some rules and some shit like that, and she said, like, please, like, it was like, please, mothers slash caregivers, when you pick your kids up

from school, to pick this up. And I was about to be like, excuse me, I think I was like the only fucking dad on the thing, because everyone else is a happy home, parents that are together, so they just email the mom and it gets to the house. So I was like the only fucking dad on the thing because everyone else is a happy home

parents that are together so they just email the mom and it gets to the house so I'm like the only male on this fucking email and I was about to be like what about the father click send

I wanted to just see this chick Miss Barbara freak out and then I could write an email back and be like I'm just fucking with you I don't give a shit

I still might do it I used to do the same shit for baby changing stations because I was a teen dad back in the 90s and like I'd have my kid out. You were a teen, bro? Yeah. Wow.

Yeah. That's got to be the hardest shit in the world. It was a fucking, yeah. I mean, yeah, I don't even, like it can get heavy quick. But yeah, yeah, I was a teen dad. Had fucking two girls pregnant at the same time. And then my actual girlfriend ended up aborting the child because the the other girl was my baby mom was gonna have the baby first and she was like she didn't want to be second

yeah and yeah that just blew that one up and so like now i'm like trying to be teen dad and the fucking parents hate grandparents hate me but i'm like taking her out to like the mall and like she pisses herself. And I got nowhere to fucking change her. I got her on a fucking sink top. The worst. I'm like, yo, can we get a change of station? Dudes do take their fucking kids out sometimes.

John Legend. That's his big thing right now. John Legend, I think he paid for like 10,000 changing stations in mail. Dude, that's a worthy fucking cause. there's not enough men and children's lives and then you're like well fucking help me help you dude like we already don't know what the fuck we're doing at least give us the goddamn table yeah that being said I'd made some really bad I remember taking my daughter to like one of the most dangerous clubs in Detroit to go see fucking Khalees at like one I'm like yeah yeah I'm gonna take you go see fucking Khalees at like one. I'm like, yeah.

Yeah, I'm going to take you to go see the milkshake shit. And then like once I got there, I was just like, this is a really bad idea. Like I was just like, uh, let me. Did you roll up like daddy daycare like with the stroller or the fucking like in the backpack thing? No, she just rode. She was like a toddler or some shit. So maybe she was like two or three. And it was, if you've seen 8 Mile,

it was the club where the battles were fucking based on. To a shelter? Yeah. It took her to the fucking shelter to go see Khalif.

I'm like, I was a fucking teenager. I was making the best decisions in life, clearly. I remember we had a blackout show. We had that old tour.

We did the EDM tour. We had a blackout show at the shelter. And it was, I remember we had a blackout show. We had that old tour. We did the EDM tour. We had a blackout show at the shelter. And it was – I remember walking home afterwards and it was like this is a really dangerous area. And I was an adult man. It was like when Detroit was like – I think at the time this was probably 2012 or something like that. And Detroit was doing like – they turn out the streetlights at night to save money and shit like that. So I'm walking home in the pitch black. I was like, I shouldn't be here right now.

I was not a one-year-old child. Yeah. Or a two-year-old child. I was like, this is too dangerous for me right now. So this was like, oh, fucking, this is 99 or some shit like that. So you roll up in the club. That's without money dumping in there, yeah. And everyone's like, what's up, dude?

What's up, baby? This is the Chappelle skit, bro. And everyone's like, what's up, dude? What's up, baby? Yep. This is the Chappelle's kit, bro. And then other cats are giving me looks. No one's like, hey, bro, you should not be here. But they're definitely giving me looks. And then I bail. I'm like, all right, man.

It didn't take much for me. I'm like, this is just, nah. I figured that would be an R&B concert. It's not that bad. I was going to say, the funniest bit is that it's Khalees. It's not fucking some legendary act that you had to see or some shit. I took my kid to so many fucking cool things that she doesn't even realize she was at. I was like, yeah. I fucking took her to the first movement festival.

I was going to say, I'm sure you've been into every fucking musical act, every festival, every concert, wherever. She'd just roll with me. I'm like, come on, let's go. What do you think about the takahashi stuff is that takahashi i'm like i've been i've been really posting his memes because fuck him like i can't i don't i'm i'm not surprised that he's snitching and i don't even fucking like i don't what i find crazy is that he's giving he's like oversharing yeah oh they

just the extent of his snitches but i'm surprised yeah it's like they need that all they need is some info on like two or three people and he's like jim jones is in on it like you're like whoa whoa dude like calm the judge literally have to be like hey bro just fucking speak on the people that were fucking prosecuting man man. Calm the fuck down. That is true, but I'd snitch so fucking fast. He's a dead man now. Well, yeah, but he got kidnapped by these dudes

that he's telling on, and there's been harder men that have told. You know what I mean? That's kind of the deal. How does he go into witness protection? I know, that's the thing it's a running joke but i really don't think he can uh yeah he's gonna he's probably gonna have to be like the middle of fucking no yeah and like solitary confinement getting his tattoos removed and then like

someone's gonna get to that dude i would imagine so but also i'd take that risk rather than go to jail like maybe you find me in fucking talusa but. Yeah, he was going to be so jailed. Yeah, so he had even, he was tiny with like even features. So he was fun to get. He was fucked. Yeah, they was going to give him some Kool-Aid lipsticks and fucking, he was going to be popping pimples on motherfuckers' backs. Straight up, man. Like that was what he was going to be doing.

God damn, dude, you're testing me today i'm just saying yeah i and for me also it's cool because it's just like a lot of times i post these nuanced memes that like take a bit of thought and uh they're funny but they take thought so like half the people are fucking super pissed and the other half like see the joke in it and uh this is just easy fucking meme shit like here's money here's some easily digestible shit for everybody everybody can agree on you don't have you make the memes yourself are you fine i'm a meme museum uh i'll just say i can't that was like i think there are a couple exchanges in my life where i've been like fuck i'm old man

and i snapchat was the first one i still don't understand snap Snapchat. But two, more recently, has been, like, memes. I've, like, seen stuff. I'm like, maybe I can make a joke on this. I don't have a fucking clue how to do that shit. I know how to laugh at them. I can find funny ones. But I got no fucking clue how to make a meme. I've made, like, a couple memes that went viral.

But it's just, like, I don't put a stamp on it. So it doesn't fucking matter. So I'm just, like. Even if you put a stamp on it, it doesn't matter. It's not like someone's going to see the stamp and be like, oh. I've never been like, you know what? I'm just like, honestly, it's not like someone's going to see the stamp. I've never been like, you know what? That I'm going to go,

I'm going to type that fucking do that. That watermark can be like, you, you know, you, you, you get a tweet that goes like 50,000 retweets. A lot of those people are like going to think you're funny and follow you.

You can have some shit go mega viral. You get like a hundred followers, right? It's fucking crazy. Yeah. It's just like, I don't know how anybody gains followers anymore. I'm happy that I got in and got mine when I did because the game is so tough now no they'll be like that's not your

meme i'm like yeah because i'm fucking kidding i wrote two fucking books how's that like i do a radio show every fucking day i come up with content all fucking day memeing fuck off i'm gonna fucking i'm way more creative than this shit so suck my dick i'm just trying to sell a fucking book through here man i you were we were talking yesterday about being old uh with the phrase say less oh yeah these guys knew it i was surprised i was retelling the story you're fucking way cooler than i am yeah but like i hang out with like i made a point about four or five years ago to hang out with like bankers and like professionals people yeah because i want to learn i want to learn what they do to get bread you know

so like i like they ain't saying say less i know say less came from a tv show then that then that leaked into into culture so it was almost backwards instead of like instead of like say less being being popularized and then the tv show picking it up it was off some amazon shit some dude some dude called up and explained it to me and i didn't feel i didn't feel that bad because half of the people didn't know what the fuck it was i almost gotten a i almost gotten like this big argument with a rapper whose name was gonna go on unsaid um off of he i was like hooking him up with some pussy and he told me to say less and i'm like this motherfucker like you son of a fucking bitch fuck you all you've been getting less dick sucked your whole fucking last 10 years you tell me to say less like i'm a fucking mumbling grumbling to myself

and shit tell them what you sent back i said you misspelled thank you and then i erased everything because i didn't want them to blow up like the girl spot either because the girl I was throwing them like some quality quality chick that had a man so like I wasn't trying

to fucking make shit hot for them and then I go on the air and I'm telling the story after I found out what it was all about and

half the people were like you fucking idiot and then the other half were like like real hood dudes that was just like yeah bro yo man i had to cut off my connect because that motherfucker told me to say less so i just stopped i'm like yo and if i saw him on the street before this i was gonna fuck his ass up like say zero i'm not gonna say shit to you anymore

motherfuckers calling me a bitch like it was just like yeah bro like i felt the same fucking way like i'm not that's when you know you're fucking old that's right that was my point is like i never thought about having to try to keep up with slang yeah i just was always around it like people around me were just saying whatever is next but now i'm like i need like a lesson i think it's the internet makes it easier where you get a little more you build up on it you know You know what? It's a different – I just want to know it. I'm not trying to implement it because then it really is like the how do you do, fellow kids. I don't think I've ever – like I don't think I've ever had a word that's gone popular in the last 10 years maybe.

That you've said? Where I like adopted it. I think it's funny and all that shit. Like I've never said lit. Right, right. I've said it – I'll say finesse. I don't say I've said it ironically. I say finesse. Finesse is a good one.

I don't say it, but that's also a very quality one. Finesse actually makes sense. Yes. You know what I mean? If the lingo makes sense, like back in the day for us, say less would have been bet.

And bet is from rolling dice. Like you're shooting dice. Hey man, I bet you can't hit that eight that you're rolling, like side bet. And he's like, bet. That's a bet. But now, bet has leaked out. It's this old-ass fucking hood thing that has become fucking white girls in Utah are saying fucking bet. So they had to come up with Say Less from a television show to stay ahead of the game

that's what scares me though it's like i'm already out on music now i'm out on slang yeah man like do you want to be like i'm cool yeah i've always said i'm very down with aging appropriately but i also that was always like in my brain i always thought i would at least still be like understanding what's going on you still don't want to there's no there's none where you're like well i didn't know i guess say less so like if you do cap and shit like i don't know what yeah yeah but and i definitely have to like i'm like okay that's a word i haven't seen yet and i see people using it i got to figure this out like no cap i still don't know what i know what it means but i don't know where it comes from yeah no cap i'm like all right yes you're capping okay sure i think it means no lie but like yeah

i just don't want to feel dumb so if i'm gonna be like on the internet we got younger fans and be interacting with them and they talk i'm not gonna talk like them but i want to know what they're saying yeah you want to understand them and the other thing too is like if me and me and the old boy was having that conversation face to face i'd have been able to figure that shit out right with within body language uh tone all of that but everything's up with them oh yeah we're good i was like bro i thought you were telling me to shut the fuck up i claimed i was like i'm old i thought you were telling me to shut the fuck up so i was sorry about that yeah be well have you found that most of the music industry you uh you work with

or know or become friends with like they're cool or do you do you even do that a lot like i don't even no i don't even with like i don't think if someone comes on your show it's just more like it's business and i'm talking to usually really old dudes or unknown rappers and the old dudes are super cool and half of the unknown rappers are and it's like bro you are a sound cloud you're are a SoundCloud. You're going to go away so fast. Yeah. You're going to go away so fast. Be nice. Assholes as in just rude and disrespectful?

Yeah. Like a real piece of shit. Yeah, I forgot some dude's name. He totally bit off some rapper, took the whole fucking name. And I was like, so is this like an homage? You paying homage to this rapper? He was like, no, it's mine. I'm like, huh. It's funny because somebody else came out with it fucking 15 years before you did,

so I guess it's not yours. We just had this weird fucking interaction. We had E-40 in here a few months ago. I love E-40. Awesome, dude. One of the nicest. He brought his bottle of wine because he got a vineyard. Yeah.

He's the king of fucking slang and lingo, so we were joking around about all that. Just the nicest dude and I asked him another question that offended him and he was cool about it he was like very polite all around

it was just like that's the way to be man 40 put me in one of his videos cause I cause I pushed E40 like I came out here to New York and was like

it was all New York DJs and I'm like well I know New York rap but like I'm a rap for the whole country because no one else is and I grew up, well, I know New York rap but like, I'm gonna rap for the whole country because no one else is and I grew up on E-40

so like, I play E-40, Scarface, all that shit and like, bang it and it would get back to these cats

like, damn, Jew's really pushing your shit so I'm in the Yup, Nope video, the Choices video. Yup,

Nope, I'm saying Yup. That's when like, the Buddy Holly glasses were in. I was rocking some Buddy Hollies. the like the buddy holly glasses were in i was rocking some buddy hollies is that the only video you've been in um i think so i don't remember you don't remember how many rap music videos i said ghb yeah dude like clearly yeah like if i'm if i yeah if i'm disrespecting any other rappers whose videos i've been in my bad it's gonna be someone's like j, you had a verse on my shit.

Thank you. Yo, what do you think makes you do crazy weird drugs? Why don't you just stick to the normal shit? You just bored by the normal shit? Alcohol makes me depressed, and weed makes me paranoid. Even though I got my own weed line in Michigan. Hyena. How's that going?

That's got to be big, right? Fire. Yeah, we're about to. It's legal, but it's still a? That's got to be big, right? Fire. Yeah, we're about to, you know, it's like, it's legal, but it's still a pain in the ass to sling that shit. Because we're still hopping

through all the fucking hoops, you know what I mean? But like, yeah, it's going well. And it's good. That's what's happening in Fall River where I'm from. The mayor's in trouble

because he's been like, oh, there's so many marijuana dispensaries and he's just like taking bribes from all of them because everyone's trying to get in on it. Yeah, yeah.

And I was like, I actually was talking to a lawyer from up there and they're like, taking bribes from all of them because like everyone's trying to get in on it yeah yeah and i was like actually i heard was talking to like a lawyer from up there and they're like dude that guy's in trouble but it's what's happening in every city every single city where it's being legalized is people being paid off just like like everything when it starts like you gotta pay you gotta pay the piper so like like where flint is it's a very poor it's a very poor county and they're just like it's legal like so that's that's their one way for them to make money and get get some money into the fucking city it was crazy i went to like a fucking cannabis cup and the cops were being real the cops were directing traffic and being fucking cool like because they're like we need fucking dough this is our

one chance fucking factories are done they've all the jobs have been shipped over fucking seas so or down south where there's a right to work state and here we go let's fucking get it so yeah i'm i'm not even mad about that shit and what you so you just slap your name on it or did you like test it and try it no i have my fucking cousin test it yeah yeah he knows tree i don't know shit about weed i I'm fucking, look, I just, like, my drugs are good, okay? I was going to say, if I needed someone to co-sign some of my, you know, extracurriculars, it would be Jewish. Yeah, it's like, they're like, well, fuck you, you don't do weed.

I'm like, I do drugs, and I'm 40, and they're good. Like, my cocaine is better than your cocaine cocaine and I don't even do cocaine. So there you go, champ. I'm fucking deep in the barrio somewhere on a side street waiting for a plug to get some shit. So fuck you. You got it from some guy named Chaz. It's been fucking, they ran a marathon on your shit. This is my favorite fucking story at Barstool.

Did you ever meet Francis? He doesn't work here anymore. He was this Harvard grad, tall, like Winklevoss type of dude, like in shape, red hair, super smart, very funny. And he's in Harvard, and he decides he's going to sell some coke to make some money. And he did not know that you're supposed to cut it a little bit. Right.

So he's selling like pure white, like right off the brick. He said you could still see the corner. Yeah. When the guy came and pieces the brick. And he's selling like the best, purest Coke all over campus. And he's like, I'm not making any money.

Like, what the, I just paid him. How does this work? And he's like, but everybody kept coming back for more. I'm like, I bet they did, dude. You got the worst drug dealer in the world.

All he had to do was up the charge, bro. He had a great goose that shit. There was other ways around, man. He ended up losing money on it. He's got to be the first person in history to lose money selling cocaine. I don't want to get too deep into this, but he is really fucking stupid. Even if he stayed at the fucking right price, they must have been gutting him on the ounces, man. Like, for real.

But, yo, he could have really been like, I remember I was talking to my homegirl, and she was like, I was asking her about her connect, and she was like, my connect served fucking some classic rock motherfucker, like Joni Mitchell, but it wasn't Joni Mitchell. You know what I mean? Like, my connect serves Joni Mitchell. I'm good on anybody you can put me on to. And I'm like, what is, I'm like, what is the price?

And she's like 200 a gram. And it made me like, I got to see this shit. You know what I mean? Like, yo, dude, this shit. What could it possibly be? Yeah, like this was like 98%, you know what I mean? Like this shit's got to be fucking awesome. But I don't even do

it i would just get it and have my i got a homeboy who um he's he's actually in like he was in a big music band back in the 90s and his job was he would go he was in chicago he would go to the hood and snort the coke for for the people and tell them what the percentages were. Coke tester? Yeah, he was a straight-up Coke sommelier. He was like, yeah, this one's like, I don't know, bro. This one's like 85% right here. He's like, oh, this one's in the 90s.

Yeah. I was like, damn, dude. Sommelier. Yeah. Dude. So I was going to just cop it and then bring it to my homeboy, who's a Coke sommelier and shit. I'm like, tell me.

I got like 100%. It's worth $200 for me shit and be like I'm like tell me like 100% it's worth $200 for me just to be like yeah I got from I copped off of this fucking classic rock dealer and shit when was it?

yo he wouldn't even he wouldn't even meet me really? yeah dude he was like nah I'm good he was like oh boy he wouldn't even meet me I was like damn son

I only do this for fucking the Rolling Stones yeah he was like do you got a platinum album? I've been in an E-40 video. Yeah, are you familiar with E-40? All right, bro. As always, we appreciate you coming through.

Thanks for having me. The books are always out. Anything else in the works these days? OneMoreJew.com has everything, and I'm doing this fucking wine pairing with, you remember Kid Robot, Dunny's and all that shit. It was like some, it was kind of like some hype beat shit,

but it was cool. It was these cool little action figures that were, that were popping like 10 years ago. Anyway, his name's Tristan Eaton. He's a street artist and he designed the bottle and the book. And it's like, the wine is super expensive,

but I wanted, I wanted my, my folks to be able to get a nice bottle of wine. But I'm not allowed to say who it's connected to because I'm so grimy. The book is so grimy. So just trust me when I tell you it's from a good vineyard and a good fucking wine place. And they're fucking legit. But they're so legit, they will not connect themselves to me.

It's Calibri. It's on my fucking site. If you're a wine collector, fucking go grab it. Oh, I'm definitely going to copy that. Yeah, roll the dice. Grab one bottle and the book and sit on it. It's good vintage, too, they told me. I don't know shit about wine.

I don't drink, but i know y'all do so there it is that's that's the only new shit i got all right man one more jude thank you bro thank you