KFC Radio - “Hank Lockwood, the #1 Ryder, Mourns the “Death” of Rico Bosco” - Inside Barstool
Episode Date: December 12, 2022- Rico Bosco leaves Barstool on the worst day - Hank is JUST learning about Zander going to the Padres - Dave doesn’t hate Feits after all - Gaz says “y’all” now - Hank’s life has changed si...nce becoming a suit - Hank almost quit Barstool, in the beginning, after being Dave’s punching bag for so long +++++++++++++++++++ Timecodes: 0:00 - Rico Bosco leaves Barstool 07:10 - Hank is JUST learning about Zander going to Padres 14:06 - more Rico / Dave doesn’t hate Feits 21:26 - Gaz says y’all now 30:09 - being a suit 37:57 - Dave bullied Feits for taking time off 41:35 - Hank almost quit Barstool +++++++++++++++++++ Rhoback: Go to https://barstool.link/RhobackBSS and use the code “KFC” for 20% off your first purchase! Amazon Alexa: Alexa customers can listen to James Patterson’s new power-family football thriller, Fear the Wolf! Now available for FREE on Alexa starting 12/9. Offer only available in the U.S. Beard Guyz: Craft your beard care routine today at https://barstool.link/BeardguyzBSSYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/kfcr
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Me and you were coming back from somewhere, we stopped, we were like sitting down, I was like,
dude, I'm, I'm, I think I'm done, like, let me go back, like, I'm just, I'm, I can't,
if I'm ever gonna, like, move on, like, I'm 22, like, if I'm ever gonna have, like, a real life,
or, like, whatever, I just, I'm done, like, being the butt of the joke. Are you ready for this?
Are you ready for this?
That looks very nice with your eyes.
Those are popping.
Popping.
We got Hennezy in the building.
We got a lot to talk about, but we have to talk about the sad news looming over the building right now.
It's the number one rider in the nation.
I don't know what you're talking about.
The number one rider in the nation.
Former number one rider.
I've kind of weaned off that. That's right.
I mean, it was rocky for Rico and the riders.
How about that for a fucking headline with alliteration?
I actually have not a lot to say, but some funny things to say.
Let's do it.
No, I'm not going to do it.
I'm a company man.
It doesn't work for the company.
I'm kind of, obviously, last night, holiday party, was drinking and just kind of being hopeful.
He's going to come back.
He told me.
But today I'm like, it's kind of over.
Last night Hank said seven days, like the fucking ring.
He goes seven days, and if it doesn't reverse in seven days,
then I'll admit it's over.
He goes, I just have this hope that 10 a.m. he's going to roll in tomorrow.
I was like, I don't think so, bro.
It's like someone said to me last week when I was talking about Brady.
Someone's like, dude, we keep hoping dad's coming home with the milk.
He's not.
I still think that's happening.
I'm with you on that one.
That one's like, if Rico's 10% chance, Brady's like 30.
Brady will eventually do it no matter what.
It's just a matter of whether it will be for actual games or one of those.
I actually hope they don't even do that one day.
I hate that one day.
Yeah.
I mean, it's fine.
He retired.
No one ever thinks.
No one ever thinks.
You don't need to do that.
Well, he retired a Patriot.
Who fucking cares?
Rico was a – we had him on here not too long ago when the negotiations were getting rocky.
And I understand every side of this one.
I really do because on the one hand, Rico was an extreme punching bag.
Like he got it worse than anybody.
And as someone who's been a punching bag on the internet, like I get it after a while.
You just can't do it.
So there's a lot of people out there who are like he pissed away this opportunity and he spit in the face of people who gave him this opportunity.
And like I understand from the outside it might look like that because he's working with Dan and Dave and they're so popular and shit.
But also he was like mentally tormented to the point that he was like I'm not happy here.
So, you know, what the fuck can you do?
Like, you know, I know other people are like, I would do it.
It's like, okay, well, you would.
He wouldn't.
You know, like you could maybe you could handle it.
Maybe you couldn't.
We don't know because you're not in that position.
But he did it and was like, I don't want to do this anymore.
So, you know, everyone makes their own decisions.
Now, what I think is funny is quitting on the day of the fucking holiday party.
We spoke yesterday.
I thought he was going to do it on Friday.
He was going to put it in his two weeks.
He just – he meant that he made the decision to – he actually pulls the plug on the day where, like, we are rallying the company together to talk about the state of the union and shit.
Like an hour before the company.
Yeah.
Like, I don't even know.
I mean –
Actually, like, I don't even know. We got a female in the middle of the Union and shit. Like an hour before the company. Yeah. Like, I don't even know. I mean. Actually, like, I don't even know.
We got a female in the middle of the presentation.
I think most people learned on the presentation.
Yeah, absolutely.
Like 99%.
Yeah.
We were privy to it.
I happen to know.
Yeah.
Everyone else gets an email from Dave just saying, you know, Bosco's gone.
And he's screaming into the microphone, Bosco's gone.
Bosco's out.
Bosco's out.
Bosco's out.
Bosco's gone. Bosco's out. Bosco's out. Bosco's out. Bosco's out.
I couldn't tell if someone had that looped or if Dave kept saying it.
Dave?
Exactly.
That was just Dave.
Bosco's out.
It sounded like a recording.
Now, I mean, it is sad, though, for a guy like yourself.
Yeah, it's a long time.
I know you said the last year year was was was you know whatever but
you were like the number one rider for like a decade for sure it was my favorite you know
probably my favorite shtick like i don't really do the shtick thing but that was like my favorite
thing to do was just to like be a rider and go at dan and dave no matter what how preposterous
rico's arguments were and just like try and defend them and find a reason to be like no like he's making good points but but I learned like over time like even in the past year where I
kind of stopped where it's like he I thought it was pretty obvious like what I was doing I think
he always was like yeah no like listen like I got back up like that was the part with Rico where he
never really did get that part of it like he was dead serious with all the arguments where it's
like they were so outlandish and it's like I don't know man i know you got backup like trust me and like the people
on twitter that would tweet him stuff he's like boom backup like yeah yeah i'm right but i've
also had very candid conversations where he's been like i know what's going on here so sometimes
but but but then you know he would even when saying – like sometimes I'm like was this double like character where it's like he's the character.
And then by saying like look at this backup and I'm blocking all these people because then there would be times where he was like, yeah, I'm blocking everybody and the rider.
So I'm like, all right.
He does get it.
It is a shtick.
I think the characters at Barstool almost like like real life in real life where
you just wake up when you're like i don't even realize how i got yes right and it's like i didn't
even like i don't know like people like this one thing i did so i did it and then like it became
all i do and now i'm like how the fuck did i get here i i think it's like like almost like someone
who wakes up in the suburbs like at 40 with two kids like wait i didn't i used to be yeah yeah i used to be like the man i was important yeah you find yourself
like yeah you're like watering the lawn worrying about like how green the grass is what the fuck
yeah i used to be cool it's like you black out from like 21 to 40 yes wait what the fuck
i think when people do characters it's it's you have to be like really dedicated to the bit to like never – like eventually you do feel like you're a fucking like dancing monkey.
You know what I mean?
And eventually you want to just be yourself and like you just want to talk about college basketball and shit.
But it's like that's not – same thing with Nate.
Nate never wants to do the spider monkey thing and it's like I get it.
But then also by not doing it, that comes with certain repercussions.
Greeny just wants to worry about the Celtics.
Right.
And that will get you where that gets you and that's that.
I'm just thinking of that because the Greeny tab became a thing.
I go on it.
I'm an exclusively looking for Celtics blogics blog Which I don't think is that big
But there's the people who do want that
And the guy who wants to write about that
21-5, beat the shit out of the Suns
Dude, I'll tell you what, real quick interjection
Losing Xander sucked
But the fucking Boston Bruins
What?
I didn't know that
11 years to San Diego What? I didn't know that. You didn't know that? 11 years to San Diego.
What?
Last night.
Dude, what?
How did last night?
I would know last night.
I was like, I was mourning Rico.
It's a crushing loss.
Dude, he got 280 over 11.
Holy shit.
Which is, that's a monster contract.
We suck.
Yeah, you suck.
It is bad. They offered him, I'll say this is like, they offered him monster contract. We suck. Yeah, you suck. It is bad.
They offered him, I'll say this is like, they offered him 6'160",
which is a reasonable deal.
It's just not, it's not.
He would have signed that in the preseason.
He would have signed that in the offseason.
I'm sorry, whatever, spring training.
But like 6'160".
What's that, 27-ish, 26 and a half?
Yeah, it's a higher AAV.
But it is, I think his AAV now is 25.5 or something like that.
And so it's a reasonable – just like when they're throwing 280 at you,
I think the Red Sox thought they gave a reasonable deal, which I think they did give a reasonable –
it's a fair deal.
It's not a knock-your-socks-off deal.
It's a fair deal.
How old is he?
He's 29.
Okay, so then that's – I'm a fan.
Maybe 30. The Phillies did this. The Phillies did this with Bryce and Trey.
They gave 13 years and then what, Trey?
12 years, whatever?
Yeah.
So now you're going to get Bryce Harper and Trey Turner for like $25 million a year each, right?
These current years.
And as contracts inflate, by the time people are worried about the 10th 11th
12th and 13th year 25 a year is going to look like pennies yeah right people are going to be
getting 45 so even when you're like yeah he's he's old and broken down for the final like
four or five years of the deal it's like at 25 it's not that bad yeah and and and for the current
next five or six years you look like a genius You got the best shortstop and the best fucking outfielder for 24, 25 years.
It's like crazy.
Did you see the kid who...
Padres have unlimited money.
Apparently.
It's like they're fucking...
But you know what?
I just...
The Padres are one of those teams
until they fucking win.
They're the Padres.
It's like I got fights on Twitter
all summer because
Claude Giroux said after he got
traded to the Panthers and the season ended
and he was like,
the Panthers were good last year
and they were good again. And he was like,
I realize what playing for a winning team is like
and I'm done doing that.
I mean, I'm not doing that ever again.
I'm playing for winning franchises.
And then a month later he's signed with the Ottawa Senators.
And I was like, what the fuck was he talking about?
And everyone's like, you're not paying attention to hockey fights.
Fucking, they just made a bunch of big signings.
I was like, no, I do pay attention to hockey.
They're the Ottawa Senators.
Right.
They're a loser franchise.
Yes.
Guess where they are?
Fucking dead last place.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, like, and they will, like, there are just certain teams that can't shake it, I don't think.
And then eventually, you know, like, I don't know, the Diamondbacks snuck in and won a World Series.
So did the Marlins and shit. But for the
most part, there are teams that... That's why I
make fun of DeGrom with the Rangers. People were
making fun of the Mets, and I was like, well, one of the
fucking Texas Rangers won a World
Series, you know? What was the time you won? How about the
Rangers? Like, these are bum-ass
teams. Yeah, they
were. I mean, they backed it back, but they couldn't
get it done. I mean, the Padres couldn't get it done dude but i mean the
padre the padres can't get it done now they truly are like a loser franchise the um the it was funny
because the socks were in san diego i think i forget i forget where they were but like they
were with i don't know if it was a chain i think it's time heim is a heimblum um the uh the they were all with they were allum. The whole beat was with them somewhere.
I don't think it was the winter meetings.
Maybe it was.
Winter meetings are like right now.
Okay, so they just ended then.
Yeah, okay.
And the whole beat was getting on a plane, and they were two separate planes,
and the beat got on with some of them with the Red Sox organization,
some had their own.
And one of the beat guys I follow is like, I'm on the wrong plane.
But like there are a lot of beat guys just on the plane right now with them.
And I think the general vibe was the Sox thought they had a real, real shot
and were blown away.
And they're like, you got to take that money.
They got rocked out of the water by 288.11.
They doubled the offer.
You got to take that.
I mean, I guess so, but it's also like –
Like a Bosco.
Well, it is funny.
I mean, it is funny because Rico apparently got a good deal from a competitor.
Whether that competitor has longevity, I don't know.
Like you might get a lot of money and then if they go under in like two years
because there's a million fucking betting gambling sites we'll see.
But, you know, you get a good offer, you go somewhere.
Did you see the kid, by the way, the kid who broke the news?
I think it's such a cool move from Xander.
Like, so Xander, he was at the Suns game last night,
at the Celtics-Suns game, which is why I thought of that.
Also, by the way, what I wanted to say in the moment
was that the Celtics and the bruins both played the
like two of the best teams last night in hockey in their sport and the celtics doubled up on them
the bruins went for nothing boston's a fucking wagon right now undefeated in november the boys
at the garden in november yeah that's insane yeah Yeah. But Xander was at the Suns game.
He was at the Suns-Celtics game.
And there's a – I don't even – a different person who left for a competitor,
Karabas, probably retweeted it.
But this kid took a picture with Xander and was like,
I hate to break it to you.
I tweeted to Karabas, I hate to break it to you this way.
Xander just told me.
But I just asked Xander if he's with the Sox, and he said no.
And it was like two hours before.
I mean, the curse of that guy is real.
He left and everything went down the shitter.
Yeah, it was over here.
I just asked Xander Bogarts
if he was
re-signing with
the Red Sox
and he said
quote no
hate to break
the news like this
he's a Celtics
man
he's dressed in
green
got a Red Sox
hat
I mean that
is brutal
it's such a
funny way
if I was a
free agent
I would do
that too
did Karabas
reply to that
or anything
I mean that
is so funny
did he cry
for real?
Or like post it?
Because he definitely cried.
For real.
He's hammering ownership right now.
He's saying, because he is a Heim dick rider.
He had a mouthful of cigarettes last night.
Yes, he was smoking five cigs at a time.
He's blaming ownership for everything.
I think they're out.
I think they're out, Fenway Sports Group.
I think they're.
That would make sense. I think that make sense They just bought the Penguins
And they put Liverpool on sale
I think they are slashing
Costs, slashing spending
Which sucks that fans have to
Go through that
It's also going to make Fenway Sports Group
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u.s but i guess you know it is all these negotiations it is it does tie back into rico
where i don't know what was what was ever like i mean dave just wanted him to write blogs and
rico just never agreed to that he Rico's out. Rico's out.
And I don't know why he wouldn't just, like, let me tell you something.
I'll give you a little inside fucking scoop on Barstool.
Like, just say yes, and then don't do it.
Like, Rico could have been like, yeah, I'll do 12 blogs a week.
He probably wouldn't need to do 12 blogs a week for two weeks.
But Dave would have checked up on him. For two weeks.
For two weeks.
You know what I mean? That's what Dave does.
Dave used to edit us.
He said he would edit Barstool, New York.
We would write blogs and then Dave would
review them and edit them and then
publish them. And he did it for
one day. And was like, I don't want to do this anymore.
You guys just do it yourself.
But he's got people now.
He does have people to keep track of.
But everything at Barstool
changes every six months.
And Rico, I think that's kind of
what the difference was. Rico, usually you
take your turn in the blender. Rico was
just always in the blender.
But I think he could have
done one year deals
for the rest of his life.
That, that part, that's where it's like, it was hard to get through to him, but he, he
had a lifetime contract, but the one year deal thing is funny.
It's like a good, good bit.
Dave likes doing it.
He's not going to break the character and be like, you always have a deal, but it's
always going to be a one year deal.
That's all he needs.
I think he couldn't get through to that.
And, but to me that there's, it's like that glass half full, glass half empty
where it's like it's a contract year every year.
And if you just imagine if you write 20 blogs a week for a year,
then they have to pay you more.
He was number four.
Yeah.
He was the fourth highest blogger page views.
Rico's out.
Rico's out.
New space number four.
Like he probably would have.
That's what I know.
I think it just comes down to he's a prideful dude,
and I think he needed some level of, like, I'm not just, like, your bitch, you know?
Yeah.
That's the realization I've come to over the past night,
where it's like he is too proud to come back,
even if he, like, wants to or realizes it.
I was hoping, like, maybe it would all get through to him
and he'll realize and he'll come back,
but I think he's too proud to even admit don't know that i don't think that that's
the worst i think that like it depends on kind of where you are in life like i think when you are
doing dave work you know you're filming his pizza reviews you're editing his shit you're his
assistant and you eat shit and you know you do that when you're like fresh out of college right
and then i think you reach a point in your life where you're like fresh out of college right and then i think
you reach a point in your life where you're like i'm not gonna do this anymore you know and like
happen to me yeah you know like like you when you're young you'll do anything to work for
barstool and you'll do anything to work for dave and then you know a few years go by and you get
better at certain things and you find your own way and you're like i don't need to do this anymore
i i think the difference is that rico's bread and butter is with those guys.
So it's hard.
He couldn't really separate it and be like, I'm going to go.
If his college basketball podcast was number one,
it would be like a different story.
But he's got to do pick them, and he's got to get needled by those guys,
and he's got to do the bit and the shtick.
And eventually, that's what I was saying earlier,
unless you're committed to your character,
I think eventually you are like, I'm not doing that anymore. I was saying earlier, unless you're, like, committed to your character, I think eventually you are, like, I'm not doing that anymore.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, I was that guy, but I can't, you go crazy.
You'll literally go crazy.
And he did.
He was, like, you know, I remember him being, like, you know, you want the shtick and then high noons are flying around, you know?
So I think it was a tough spot.
But I think there's a lot, I just think there's a lot of people judging from the outside that it's like you really can't understand Barstool
until you work there, and then even if you work
at Barstool, I don't think you can understand what Rico...
Rico needed one...
Dave does not do attaboys. Dave does not
break character. Dave does not let you
in on the bit, because then it's
ruined. I've almost come around on that
though. That he does? Yeah. Bro, I think I've
gotten three attaboys in my life from Dave.
I remember every one
every single one
dude
they make him count
make him count
it is
it is like
what the
I like call my parents
I'm like
I'm an adult man
tell the trivia
that was funny
can we tell that
when Dave
when you popped on
on the stream on trivia
I even texted Kevin
I was like dude
I think Dave is fucking
because it was like Dave was in a hall.
He was in the office.
I think it was before he realized his New York dates thing.
Or maybe it was a special day.
He had to come in.
Whatever.
And I was walking by him.
I actually was standing still.
He was walking by me.
And I said, what's up, Dave?
And didn't even look up.
Just walked right by him.
And now thinking back on it like knowing Dave like he probably didn't even hear me or I don't I don't know what he was like I think
Dave's like done I was like I was like I think he's like like hashtag done he won't even look
at me I don't know what I did but like I think he's fucking furious with me and I like I like
had like a breakdown breakdown it wasn't that big but it was like I was like I don't know because
you like you always want to please Dave because you're fucking.
And we get no interaction with him, so it's like we never know.
And then we were doing trivia like two weeks ago, I think.
This is funny.
And I'm on the family with Riggs.
The powerhouse squad of Riggs and John Ridge.
And John Ridge. and i was the last
person trader reeks a trader he's a trader yeah and i was the last person to log into the zoom
and and davis goes oh thank god final bird is here and i thought he'd be sarcastic and i was
like wait what what did i do like i was like it's 359 i was told we're starting four and he's like
no no just thank fucking God you're here.
He's like, I was about to take my headphones off and just go sit on the couch and not do this show.
And guess what?
I don't have anything else to do.
He goes, I just saw Reeves and John Rich and Gooch, whoever the fuck that is.
And I was like, I'm not doing a show against these three guys.
And I was like,
I was finally like,
he goes,
we're a Monday night,
Sunday night football team
and you've got us playing
on fucking Thursday nights
right now.
And like,
nothing he said was wrong
and very mean
right in front of their faces.
Dude,
it was so funny.
Dude,
at one point,
he's so mean to Riggs.
So mean.
I feel bad for Riggs.
Every time he hears his name, he's just like saying the meanest shit subtly. At one point... He's so mean to Riggs. Dude, so mean. I feel bad for Riggs. Every time he hears his name,
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At one point, Riggs' camera went out,
and he's not freaking out,
but he's like,
is this...
Jeff D. Lowe, is this working?
All right, I'll try this.
And Dave goes,
Riggs, does it really matter?
That's what you're talking about.
It's so mean. His head was done just playing with his hat. He's like, Riggs, does it really matter he was like his head was done
he was playing with his hat
he was like reeks does it really fucking matter
and then like
and I feel bad
they're younger employees they got time to get going
I'm here 12 years I hope he still likes me
I was like oh okay that feels really good
I feel bad for them but boy
and I texted Kevin right away I was like he doesn't hate me i think reeks has got to be used to it by now
because reeks is like green he knows like what he wants to blog and he blogs it and there's like
he's always on the top list like he knows he's doing work and dave sees that but it is funny
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So how's life as a suit, you suit?
Yeah, where was your fucking speech last night?
Yeah.
You missed the whole meeting, you suit.
No, I was there.
I was sitting there.
I didn't really.
Oh, he's such a suit.
He oversees the suits.
No, Erica was like, you and Big Cat want to say something. I was like, I didn't really oh you he's such a suit he oversees the suits no they Erica was like you and big cat want to say something I don't really like big cat can just do it I don't really have much
much much to say I was gonna go with something as profound as we did I mean
gases y'all's were calling me no when did that dude start saying y'all he goes
I didn't even notice I was saying it I was like that's even worse third or
fourth time yeah yeah y'all y. What? Congrats to y'all.
Y'all.
Y'all.
Y'all.
Paul, you live in Miami.
Yeah.
Guys.
He started saying, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja.
Yeah.
It doesn't like, y'all.
If you move to fucking Tennessee or something.
Or Kip Hatsal.
They like to say, to tell me fucking y'all, bro.
You're not in the panhandle, dude.
Yeah.
He was like, you know, this company will only go as far
as y'alls will take it or something like that.
I did my 183 days in Miami.
Now I say fucking y'all.
He got
custom hoodies
for the whole social team.
They're pretty cool.
Interesting logo choices. I didn't see any caves or radio.
I didn't see any of that. There's a lot of plain brie and chick lids. Oh, that logo choices. I didn't see any of KF's radio. I didn't see any of that. Yeah, I didn't see any of that.
There's a lot of plain brie and chicklets.
Oh, that's interesting.
I didn't know that.
I was going to say sleeves.
I saw them.
It was interesting.
I thought maybe it was each one had different ones and everything was represented.
It was just brie, pizza.
Yeah, there was brie pizza, sleep when you're dead, chicklets.
Interesting.
I didn't notice that.
I just saw the one with the old school Barstool logo, like the paper
logo, and I was like, oh, that's cool. I didn't
realize everything else.
They were cool sweatshirts. They're cool sweatshirts for
them, but like, fuck you.
He's also Gaz. Obviously
everyone calls me Suit Hank,
but it's really me and Gaz.
Gaz is also... Oh, Gaz is the biggest suit.
Yeah, he's the biggest suit. Which is funny
because he's also Peter Pan, man child. He's not biggest suit Yeah like he's The biggest Which is funny Because he's like You know
Like he's also Peter Pan
Man child
He's not a suit
But he's such a suit
Can you log into Google
I do
So we just interviewed
Kumail Nanjiani
Which will be on tomorrow's episode
Checked
Huge
Great guy
Just rock solid
We took a picture
I had my hand on his back
I was like
Oh my god
I want to watch this scene
With you guys
It is fucking
I was watching it
I was watching this on the train Tuesday night,
and it is, I was like, oh my God, this is gas and tape.
It was, dude, it's so funny.
I'm not going to tell you anything about it.
It is this guy, Ray Colon, he is hired, Chip and Dale's at this point is starting to take off.
It's becoming a big brand, a big thing.
And Kumail Nanjiani is the boss.
He's the guy, Steve Banerjee. to take off it's becoming a big brand big thing and camille nangiani is the boss he's he's uh the
guy uh steve steve uh bannergy and uh this just just like the handyman gets hired around the
studio around the the the club and uh and and he has this conversation i'll get you my luggage. I'll get you my luggage. I got mine. He has this conversation with Banerjee.
It's exactly Paul.
Bro.
It's Paul talking to Dave or Dave talking to Paul?
It's Paul talking to Dave.
It is.
It's obviously an exaggeration.
I don't even know what we're about to watch,
but it might not be an exaggeration because the Paul, Dave,
Paul's life is the biggest fucking joke of all
i mean paul paul is you know got like fucking penthouse apartments in miami now right like
yeah you're talking about a guy who who went and i give him all the credit in the world like zero
discernible skills and just read up just read up on social media and all that
but like he figured out you know he was like i'll just learn everything about all these social media
platforms and make myself sound do we need a login voice yeah i gotta log in yeah i haven't
had a different email um and you know you somehow sound somehow weasels his way into seeming
indispensable it's crazy he just knows where the bodies are buried.
That'll always be his.
He's good at what he does with social, but also it's like.
All right, go to.
A lot of what we do.
It's like there's a lot of like, I know I enjoy it,
but it's a lot of like really smart people,
but they don't really get Barstool.
So it'll be me and Gatsby.
Like, well, that's not going to work with us.
Yeah, it is.
I thought about that.
And it's like, it's definitely having him involved is like super helpful for me. I don't I'm not going to work with us. Yeah, like, have you thought about this? Have you thought about that? And it's like, it's definitely,
having him involved is, like, super helpful for me because I don't, I'm not, I feel like I'm alone.
And, like, when I say something, Gaz, like, understands it.
And, like, no one else does.
And they're like, why can't we do this?
It's like, this makes no fucking sense.
Right.
I think it's very good to do that promotion within kind of deal.
Hell yeah.
Because I think for so long we did, we were hiring,
and these people still work there, work here. Some of them do, and I'm sure they're fantastic workers.
But there was a period there where we were exclusively hiring from the companies we were like, that's who we want to be.
And I was like, then why are we bringing their brain in here?
And I get to an extent that they might have good people.
Some of those people drove me nuts.
Nuts, man.
I don't think I've ever really said this
But the Chicago thing obviously
We've we've known Dan's obviously told me like forever. I've always been like let's move
Let's move this movies like we'll move to Chicago eventually and like last year
I remember being like when we moved to Chicago
I really don't want anyone on top of me like I can do this like all the all the stuff with like the the production and
Like the meetings and like the planning and stuff was like just ways just weighs down i can just do it i don't need someone else
asking me and then you know even what i'm saying doesn't get like properly processed or like i
don't know if it's being communicated the way i've said it and he's like all right we'll talk to
erica erica was down for it and then like two weeks later jen left and erica's basically do
you want to do it now and i was like i might as well like get my feet wet so that's kind of how it started, where I wasn't thinking this was going to be something I was doing until like...
Later.
Next fall.
Right, right, right.
But I'm happy I did, because now I feel a lot more comfortable.
Well, and especially, I think, if you do it here in New York first, and then you do it...
It's almost like, it's got to be more hectic and chaotic here, and then when you go to Chicago, it'll be like just yours.
Yeah.
It'll probably be easier.
And MB is super.
I mean, that's where Dave was like, I think you should do it,
but I think it should be you and MB.
And that was 100% the right call because she knows all the sales stuff.
She's like super, super, super helpful with like anything that I don't get.
It's like I can just sit with her and I'm like,
why did it like make this make sense?
And she can.
Yeah, she knows.
We have a good like rep.
I hate though that it's like there's probably still some elements
of like the sales world
where you need somebody with a
fucking you know other like
clients and shit think they need to talk
to somebody who has like 20 years experience
and a degree and blah blah blah and it's like no
just talk to Hank and MB they'll figure it out trust me
let's see this clip
so Kumail is
Dave right? Kumail is Dave yes
and the picture is happening in the middle.
Yes.
Sounded like he just said Gaz.
Gaz.
I fucked up.
Big time, y'allall I should have known I should have I should have seen that there was treachery at fuck
Course you're not cool with no competing calendar. Why would you be you gave orders a chance?
Him under you wing and look how he did you
Bring I never lost nothing before, but I...
I've seen enough movies to know that when you're the king, there's gonna be snakes in the grass.
People wanna take you down and steal your crown.
But what I want you to know, from the bottom of my heart is, you better worry about that with me.
No matter what shady scheming bullshit is going down, there's always one person who'll have your back.
Alright, good morning. This is music.
He's a fucking boss.
I want to watch his show now.
Yo, bro, what's so funny is, like, because...
He looks like...
I mean, you can tell he's a G in the show.
Yeah. He's got the look. Chip and Dale, you can tell he's a G in the show. Yeah.
He's got the look.
Chippendales got started.
It's crazy.
It's crazy.
I know that, like, you can just see from the music
and the way he's acting and shit
that it's supposed to be, like, a real tense moment,
but because you planted that seed first,
that felt like I was watching one of those, like, telenovelas.
Yeah.
Like, it was, like, super, like, satire.
That is hilarious.
Yeah, the amount of, like, Dave gave me my entire life tweets super like satire. That is hilarious.
Yeah, the amount of Dave gave me
my entire life tweets that Gaz has
sent in his life, it's gotta be
like three dozen.
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are you dealing with a lot of outsiders?
Have you had any issues where it's like
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or this guy, you know what I mean?
Or is it mostly internal stuff?
It's mostly internal stuff.
Has there been anybody here
who's had a problem with it?
With me?
Yeah. Not really, I don't think think i wonder if there's going to be anybody being like why not to listen to this guy
you know like what is this well i know there's like a sale i think some of the yeah i think
there's definitely some element to that but that's i don't i don't really care about that
where it's like if they don't sometimes they just don't get stuff and you just have to be like this
doesn't make sense and it's like i might be a little more blunt or like yeah you know i'm just
like being straight up like this makes no fucking sense so your approach has just been
like i know barstool if you bring me an ad deal that makes no sense if you bring me some content
that makes no sense you'll just flat out be like no we're not doing this yeah it's more like the
thing that i mean it's the thing i know like you've gotten frustrated it's we've gotten frustrated
with part of my take it's always the things that it's like they don't get communicated
beforehand and then
they're like you have
to do this because we
sold it and it's like
why didn't we talk
about this before
right now why don't
we talk about this
before because we
would have been like
this makes no sense
and then it's like
and then they're like
well we sold it like
we just do it and it's
like that shit drives
me crazy because now
it's like we're I'm in
the position where it's
like it's not where I'm
just the producer and
sometimes that happens
or like oh sorry we
sold this you have to
do it it's like the whole process is supposed to be like
it should mean ambition at least like hear about it or like at least like this makes sense this
doesn't make sense they should be able to do this and like if if we can talk to like the talent and
be like would you guys do this how can we make this work because we're i'm i'm definitely on
board of like if we can make money let's make money absolutely like usually let's just figure
out first yes can you do this and i'm like we can't do that but we could do this and then you know
that idea works out better and it all works but because i'm never gonna be like no we're not doing
this didn't make it's like let's do it let's just figure it out and like and you just might take an
extra step or like talk to you guys like talk to them like would you do this can we do this for
which is crazy they just they still will be like you know some of the things are that and it's just like it's it's it's dumb show
where they just sell you know they're like pick them as a year-long podcast
right it's like no it's never well I think I think there's a lot of people
who want their Commission yeah the sales right in front of them and they say
that's okay that's and that's and then they and then they're like I'll make it
work I'll get my 30% or 20% whatever the fuck it is and then they're like I'll
figure it out after the fact yeah we we need to make more money could do eight ad reads apartment tickets like
no like no yeah we do a lot already like we're not there's there's no podcast i listen to that
have that many ad reads like i know if we did it you'd be able to make more money and like that
would look good on the balance sheet and stuff but it's like right it's not a feasible yeah like
an actual reality like that's that that would be terrible right well we're doing should also be if
you sell a podcast you should be be required to listen to it.
Listen to the podcast.
Yes.
I don't think that's the case.
Not even a little bit.
What the fuck are you selling?
Nobody listens to you.
How can you sell something when you don't understand the product?
Right.
I mean, some of the things –
We had a meeting last week with a lot of the upper-level producers where we just talked about the sales process and how that is the number one thing.
Where it's like somebody asked, I think, Rennell,
do you guys put the interviews in the podcast?
He's like, this entire show is based off of interviews.
Yeah, I know that.
Are you out of your fucking mind?
You dumb fucking assholes.
It is.
I think we should have meetings, and we sit down with salespeople,
and we give them quizzes.
We do like a dozen.
And if you can't get them right, you don't get to sell us.
That's not a bad idea.
I wouldn't know how to do it because I don't remember what I say in this podcast.
Even like who's the cast of the podcast.
Yeah, yeah.
There's some of it I get where it's like you can't listen to every show,
but some of the things that get brought up, it's like there's no shot.
Like you're asking, it's like $20 shop doesn't work here.
Yeah.
Why is he on the materials of the show?
Yeah, that's crazy stuff.
Like if you want to come to me with some product or some service that is terrible for me to sell, I'll quiz you.
If you can answer these questions, I'll do it.
That would be great.
That would be a lot of fun.
That would be very fun.
I mean, it's –
Pencils down.
You're sitting there great.
We're all out of here.
Yeah.
See you fucking later.
None of you can sell us.
And then we don't make any money.
So we're like, wait, come back.
It's a whole thing.
I think people, it is nice, like at Barstool, that there's a lot of people, a lot of teams
who take care of all your shit.
You know, even when we're traveling, we're doing live shows, sales.
It's like, you know, sometimes I'm like, I look at some of the comics that we know and
the people who are on their own and they're making so much fucking money, but they also
spend so much money and have to deal with all the bullshit and
legal ramifications if they fuck up and all that.
And it is nice to just be like,
that has been taken care of for like 15 years.
But sometimes it's also like,
there's just so,
there's so many cooks in the kitchen where it's like,
just let me do this.
My fucking self.
I,
I completely agree with you there.
And that's always like from the old days,
been the mindset of like everything we do we have to flesh out ourselves and so i still have that mindset and
i think as good as the growth is this is like a production thing it's like everything where
there's so many cooks in the kitchen where people don't have like i gotta do everything myself like
oh someone's gonna do it for me and then they always have an excuse for like oh well like i
didn't this didn't happen or this person didn't do this or this person didn't do this where it's like,
you shouldn't be thinking about who to blame.
It ultimately falls on you.
It always blames on you and it's like if you are worried about someone else,
just figure it out or go through the process where it's like,
that's always ingrained in me where it's like,
all right, let's flesh it out.
Let's do the –
Start to finish.
Right, which is why I like working with the sales team
and with the marketing team and it's basically like basically like beginning middle end and then i i love production like that's always
going to be like what i like to do like creatively and like i obviously know production and like our
production team so it's like then it's like the end once it gets sold working on it on the way
back and like making sure like that all gets executed the right way so i like that like being
i just enjoy like being involved and like well that's the difference though because the production stuff i know the sales stuff i'm learning but i don't
think uh like when when new people come in and they they blame others or you gotta be a scumbag
to be like the face of something and blame someone else like dude yeah it's your name on the fucking
building right it's not the end of the day it's your thing i don't mean your name's in the building
here but like it's your name on the building your product yeah yeah fucking but but i also i also
understand that like sometimes we want these like new people to like behave like we do and it's like
why would they right they didn't go through like what we went through you know like yeah we i built
this fucking thing so we a always had our hands on everything and be like wanted to because it was
like we want to make this the best it can be we were competitive with with each other with other
companies now if you start at barstool tomorrow you're like i'm starting at a major media
conglomerate like why why would i have my hands in on everything why would i like they it's like
not even a thought because which i you you We've definitely become the uphill both ways
And the snow people
Like 100%
But I am
This is very inside Barstool talk
But that's also life
When you're yelling at your kids
I used to do it like this
That was 30 fucking years ago dad
That's not how the world is now
You go pound the pavement You shake hands, look them in the eye do it like this. It's like, yeah, well, that was 30 fucking years ago, Dad. That's not how the world is now. So it's like, yeah, we don't...
You go pound the pavement, you shake hands, look them in the eye.
No, you don't, Dad. That's not
at all what you do. So it's like, yeah,
we use a blog every 30 minutes.
That would be physically impossible now.
And we used to do
it all on our own. It's like, well, now I have
a sales team and this team and that.
They can't. And you can't
possibly have that mindset.
So I try not to blame them because it's like it's not –
the reason I think I can relate is because sometimes Dave will be like,
how come you guys don't do it like me?
And it's like, well, I don't own fucking 80% of the company.
I didn't make $100 million this year.
So you put in the amount of effort and love according to how much you get out of it.
So it's like some new person joining up is not going to have the same passion for it that we did when we were building it from the ground up. And so how could you,
I remember Dave one time I asked for like a long weekend, like a Thursday to Sunday.
And I've probably been working here like four or five years or something like that.
And he was like, you really want to take, like, I definitely, my first time ever,
he's like,
you really want to take a vacation?
Like it starts in a song.
I was like,
I was like,
yeah,
like we're just heading up skiing or whatever we were doing.
I don't remember.
And,
uh,
he was,
he just goes,
I mean,
anyone who takes a vacation in the first 10 years is just going to be an
absolute failure.
I was like,
I was,
I was so taken aback. So I was like, I was like, wait, are you telling me? Nope. I was so taken aback.
It's so hard.
I was like, wait, are you telling me?
I was like, all of my friends are going to be complete failures?
And he was like, yes.
And I was like, I just don't think that's true.
And just, you know, me and all those friends are about to enjoy a beautiful weekend in
Maltese Vineyard and a lovely home because everyone's doing great.
I remember the first, like, the first year.
He said we get bank holidays off.
And Martin Luther King was, or was it Martin Luther King?
Yeah, Martin Luther King.
It was a bank holiday.
And so I was, like, at a ski house.
And I got lucky because I think the Jets jets beat the chargers in like a big game or
something happened with daniel thomason whatever it was so i like had to blog it anyway so i had
like a couple things up on the site but like everybody else was just like not working and he
was like what the fuck is this and we're like i don't know he told us we had these holidays off
and he was like well you don't yeah okay and then I never for the next 15 years ever did anything on MLK Day ever again.
Dude.
One of my favorites.
No, after you, please.
No, you can go ahead.
Oh, God.
One of my favorites was I remember I had to blog because he wrote a blog about how lazy I am
because I didn't come to work one day.
And I was just blogging from home.
Yeah.
And this was before work from home was ever a thing.
It was snow day? Yeah. This is fucking hilarious.ging from home. Yeah. And this was before work from home was ever a thing. This is, I was in my-
It was snow day?
Yeah.
This is fucking hilarious.
I remember this.
Dude, dude.
It was like a 10 feet of snow.
Yeah.
It was, it was, it was like the biggest snowstorm in Boston history.
And your car was like in the street.
I had to take my car, it was like in the street.
You couldn't see the cars in the street.
Right.
It got like plowed in, right?
No, it wasn't plowed yet.
Dave could have walked to work. You just, Dave lived on the cars in the street. Right. It got plowed in, right? No, it wasn't plowed yet. Dave got blocked at work.
Dave lived on the same block at work.
So it was like, what the fuck?
Fylerburg's such a lazy goddamn motherfucker.
And it was like, I had to take a picture outside my window and be like,
this is my, like, I don't know.
The fucking T's not running.
Yeah.
Cabs aren't running.
This is my car right now. What did he say to that? I think I was like, I'm not a. The fucking T's not running. Cabs aren't running. This is my car right now.
What did he say to that?
I think I was like, I'm not a carpenter.
We're not building a house.
I'll just do it from here.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And like now, that's what everyone does.
Right, right.
But, and I don't know.
I don't think he wrote a reply blog.
I don't think he replied to me at all.
No, of course not.
But it was like, it was like,
Feidelberg's the laziest person in the history of the world.
And I just fucking, it was physically impossible. And you were doing the same work from home. And I the world. It was physically impossible.
And you were doing the same work from home.
It's not like we talked and collaborated all that often.
Hell no.
Dave would walk in and do his thing.
Everyone just did their thing and got out.
And it was very much like here.
Right now, people just kind of do their thing and they go home.
That is great.
I do remember that.
You guys got hit with like
Three feet
Like six feet of snow
Like twice in a row
Wasn't it like
Two weeks in a row
It was like
Not two weeks
It was like
Dude it snowed like
It was February I think
It snowed like
Every single day
That February
And it was just like
It was like
The plows were like
Alright you guys
You guys are able
To catch it in March
The cars aren't going
Anywhere anymore
And it was just like, it was so much snow.
When did you, you made the move to PMT, right?
Like when they started or did it take a little while?
It was when it started.
I don't know if you, both of you were involved in this.
When you were talking about like the being done with Dave and and like you know being in the butt of the joke like when we
were on the dixie tour when you came we didn't pick you up but like we went out the night before
we're up to like 4 a.m we like brought people back to the bus it was definitely dumb and i you know
i was definitely like drinking and involved but like ben was a bus driver and it was like 4 a.m
i was like everyone we gotta go to sleep i gotta pick a fight over tomorrow the airport was like three hours away but i was like you know I was like everyone we gotta go to sleep we gotta pick up Fuddleburg tomorrow the airport was like 3 hours away
but I was like
you know we gotta get up
we gotta do this
we gotta pick him up tomorrow
like let's go to sleep
like alright
alarm went off
I was like shaking him
like getting up
and like Caleb was like
we're not fucking picking him up
I'm getting a cab
like I'm making the decision
I was like
and David already said
oh yeah this is Tallahassee
yeah like Caleb's
Caleb's like show to run
so Caleb was like
I'm not doing it
like we're not doing it
like I'll get him a cab.
Like, it's fine.
I'll take the responsibility, whatever.
Fidelberg landed.
No one was there.
He was rightfully upset.
And then Dave was pissed.
I was like, I was upset.
Or you were just like, this is kind of crazy.
Yeah, this is wild.
Like, I'm here for you guys.
No one's here.
No one's here.
And Dave, like, texted me and was like, you never cease to amaze me how bad you fuck up or something.
And I was, like, so upset because I was i was like i was trying to do the right thing like i you know and and at that
point i was always the butt of the joke like i was always getting shit on i was like 22 and i was
like i was like done with it where i was like i'm just i can't after the dixie tour like we had it
and then we obviously went out for like three days straight like we were we were partying and like
i remember you know we almost had someone die on the bus? Yeah, it was a wild weekend.
I remember it was, like, it was the last night.
It was, like, 4 a.m.
We stopped.
Me and you were coming back from somewhere.
We stopped.
We were, like, sitting down.
I was, like, dude, I think I'm done.
Like, let me go back.
Like, I'm just, I can't.
If I'm ever going to, like, move on, like, I'm 22.
Like, if I'm ever going to have, like, a real life or, like, whatever, I'm done, like, being the butt of the joke.
Yeah.
And then after that was the –
Because even though it was 22, that's four years, right?
That's a long time.
And then right after that trip, the next week was the Mets-Cubs thing.
And we were driving like Caleb and Ben drove overnight.
We got up at like 6, you, me, and Big Cat.
And I went up to you guys.
I was like, yo.
And at the time, I knew obviously you and Dave and Dan had beef and you guys had beef.
Like you guys, you know, I would hear like there was issues. And so I was like, oh, obviously, you and Dave and Dan had beef, and you guys had beef. You guys, I would hear there was issues.
And so I was like, oh, they're going to understand.
I'm going to go up and I told them.
I was like, all right, I'm leaving.
Once the Dixie tour was over.
And I was probably, I don't know that I would have ended up making this decision.
It was like I was coming off a bender, and I was just upset.
And my head was all fucked up.
But at the time, my mind was made up, and I told you guys.
I was like, I'm leaving when I'm done.
It's over. And then you guys were like, I'm leaving when I'm done. It's over.
And then you guys were like, I think things are changing.
You were leaving Barstool?
Yeah.
Oh, I didn't realize that.
I think maybe you were leaving, like, Dave.
No, there was no, yeah.
And, like, we were on the college tour.
I was like, college is fucking awesome.
Like, I could easily just go back to college and, like, you know,
people wouldn't care that much.
I could be, you know, kind of have some, like, notoriety. like notoriety but like at these colleges no one really knew i was like i could
easily just blend in and like move on with my life right and then you guys were like things are
changing things are better this guy chernan's gonna buy us and then vick i was like i think
i'm starting a podcast with with pft who like we had met before and obviously like you introduced
me to me on twitter back in the milton. We used to fucking die laughing in his tweets.
But that was when it was like, oh.
I was 100% done at the time.
I was like, my mind is made up.
I'm leaving.
And then we had the conversation.
And you guys were like, no, I think.
And Big Guy was like, you should think about it more.
I want to start this podcast.
I want you to help.
Yeah, I remember that on the bus.
So that was like, it's nice to have a moment where it's like, that changed everything. Where it was like, after that, it was like, I always, it's nice to have like a moment where it's like that changed
everything where I was like, after that, I was like, all right, if I'm doing this, I'm
going to take it seriously.
And like, I'm going to get like, I'm going to, I put myself in the position to be the
butt of the joke.
Like I wasn't even mad at Dave or anyone.
It was like, I, all the shit I did, like I did to myself.
And like, it was like, I was playing along and I was just kind of the character thing
was like, how did I get here?
Yeah.
I was like, I was doing, was working for a little bit and now I'm fucking here.
That's like, I don't like this. Right. It was like, you know, I was a fuck up, but it was like, you know, you can? Yeah, I was like being, I was doing, was working for a little bit and now I'm fucking here. Right. I don't like this.
Right.
I was like,
you know,
I was a fuck up
but it was like,
you know,
you can,
I was like,
if you're a fuck up,
it's like Dave literally said like,
he's like,
you're not,
we're not giving you a raise
because you're good at your job.
Like,
it's just funny when you fuck up
and it's good content.
And I was like,
all right,
well,
I'll just fly,
you know,
whatever then I'll just be myself
and fuck up.
And like,
if that's,
if that's what you want,
like that's easy for me.
But over time I was like,
I just can't,
I can't do this forever.
Eventually you're like, you know, you're happy to just get your foot in the door and make some money and get in the show,
but eventually you can't.
I remember having that talk with Dave.
If you have any sense of pride or your own personality, you can't.
I was just like, I wasn't stopped with that.
I just went up to his office one day and I was like, can you please,
can sometimes we just have a conversation?
Yeah, like don't put it on the blog first office one day and I was like, can you please – just like can sometimes we just have a conversation? Yeah.
Like don't put it on the blog first.
Like just you and I.
I think it was maybe after you posted the picture of me asleep, which was at 7 p.m.
And he's like, look at Feidelberg asleep at the office.
It was one of those days where I was just like, I'm not going home.
Like I just –
I'll sleep here.
It's going to be traffic.
Like I'm just taking a nap.
Yeah.
And it was – I'll fucking swear on the Bible.
It was 7 p.m.
Work was done.
My bad.
My bad.
And he's like – and I was like, can we just sometimes like just have a conversation?
Just like keep it in the locker room.
Like keep it like – that's like a – that's a thing.
Yeah.
And he was just like – and like it's worked.
Like obviously you can't question the recipe.
He's like – he's like, no.
Everything we do is on camera.
And I was like, okay, I get that too.
So, yeah, two things there.
I think I hope to find a healthy in-between.
Yeah.
But I think there's two things there.
I think you can't question the success.
And I think often, you know, Dave going with his gut has led to, you know to a fucking half a billion dollar company.
But sometimes I'm like, I think it would have been a billion dollars if we played a couple cards differently.
So I don't want to say you did it wrong or anything.
But it's like there is room for improvement and room to like make changes and shit so um and then also i i think that
if if you have if dave almost had a conversation with people that's like we're like a reality show
now basically like all the time you know and you kind of knew the score a little bit like you knew
like almost like what i'm saying with rico where he said like yeah like we're gonna do this but
like you know but you want it to be as like real as possible.
He wants you to like either fear him or, you know, when Michael Scott comes out and tells
the office, he's about to fake fire Stanley because he wants them to react like it's a
real fire.
Like if you didn't tell us this, we would have.
That's exactly it.
That's exactly it.
But when then, you know, the whole office would be like in fear or something, you know,
and then I don't think you're getting the best out of everyone.
So I think there was a, you you know it's probably a better way to
to do all that because it's like it's the same thing with the internet like sometimes i'll you
know trolls are like getting to me and i'm like oh i'm being the pussy right now like they're
just chirping me they're just like busting my balls and i'm taking it seriously and if you
you know like i mean dave is does mean it it's not he's joking but if you take it as like he's
busting balls and he's doing it for the camera,
and it is somewhat real, but it's also trumped up for entertainment,
and you just go with it.
That's what I hate.
He's also like emotionless.
There's been arguments.
We've got an argument.
And I learned that early on where it's like it's over, it's over.
Oh, yeah.
He doesn't move on.
He's going to say it, and it's going to come across real,
and people are going to make him so mad.
He's not even mad.
He's just like he's getting it off his chest. And once it's off his chest, he's going to say it and it's like it's going to come across real and people are going to make he's so mad. And it's like he's not even mad. He's just like he's getting it off his chest.
And once it's off his chest, he's like, all right.
He holds a grudge against people he hates, but people he doesn't.
It's he really can.
I think I compartmentalize and keep and you can tell him whatever you I've always appreciated.
Like I can say whatever I want to him and I'll be like, you're a fucking idiot.
No, but he's not going to be like, I can't believe you said that to me.
You can you can you can like
run an idea two man tuesday or or like whatever like even like in in the old like when there was
like like old the bad the dark days like early 2016 2017 where it's like i would be like making
a case for something and then like he'd be like no you're fucking idiot this makes no sense like
you're not getting a youtube channel like you guys can't sell merch like and i was like he's
like you don't know shit about business and it's was like, all right, well, at least I said it.
And then whatever.
It is what it is.
But I think that's the difference, man.
I think that's why you are where you are,
is having the balls to say it and do it and take your lumps
or be embarrassed or whatever.
And then you look up.
You're almost the opposite.
It was like you look up and all of a sudden you're the producer of the number one podcast in the world like how did i get here
you know all the fucking time i mean like the suit shit too or it's like i'm in these meetings
and it's like with smart people and it's like they're like asking me for like decisions i'm
like i'll give you my opinion but like is is it the right one i don't know yeah here it is
i don't know what the fuck i'm talking about right here right here's my opinion what do you think
i'll give you what i think but like I don't know that it's right.
Do you guys still have – I remember when you guys – when you first started, I remember
Dan sent us your first episode ever.
And I was like, what do you think?
With the reggaeton?
You still have that?
With the reggaeton?
I remember I was like, oh, boy, this isn't going to go well.
I remember my two notes per day to Dan were like, stop the reggaeton because there was
so much reggaeton.
Which's funny now.
I bet you they could do that.
Oh.
And it would be hilarious.
100,000.
But to be like the first episode where people don't know you yet.
It's like a sound.
We try to do a radio soundboard for a podcast basically.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That was awesome.
What was the other note?
I remember it was like March and there was like a 10-minute and the Lakers were like 2 and fucking 70. And there was like a 10-minute, and the Lakers were like 2 and fucking 70.
And there was like a 10-minute conversation.
I'm like, can the Lakers make a run?
And I was like, I think you're going a little too overboard on satire here.
Oh, okay.
And he's like, that's probably a good note, too.
Reggae tone and satire.
There's no chance they make a run.
The season's over next month.
They're in dead last place.
All right, man.
Well, we appreciate it, as always.
Oh, wait. Real quick. The kid almost died. Do you remember the kid almost died? Oh, yeah. Well, we appreciate it, as always. Oh, wait.
Real quick.
The kid almost died.
Do you remember the kid almost died?
Oh, yeah.
What's that story?
Yeah.
Dude, it was weird.
We really resuscitated him.
Dude, we were outside.
I don't think I know this story at all.
I thought we just told it.
I don't know if he died or not.
Pray tell.
Also hilarious, the whole funny part of that weekend
Is that Mitch Trubisky was like with us
He was just in the cut
And then that Sunday
So that was where I was down so bad
I'll let you tell this story real quick
You came on like a Wednesday or Thursday
And we had gone out the Tuesday
So it was like Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday
Binging, hard, partying
I was down bad mentally i was like quitting the company
like i was like i was down horribly i lost my phone on sunday so like sunday was just like the
biggest sunday scaries of all time where i was like i'm about to go tell you know i'm gonna see
big cat and kfc i'm gonna tell him i'm quitting like this is my life was like all all coming to
a crashing halt lost my phone and then mitch he didn't do anything wrong his flight just got
canceled but he was supposed to have practice Sunday morning.
He had like an early morning flight.
His flight got canceled.
He didn't,
there's nothing he could do.
So he was back with us waiting for his flight later in the afternoon.
So it was like,
we were down horribly.
Like the whole bus was just like,
just down so bad.
And then obviously like everything,
like it was,
like I was saying earlier,
it's nice to have that one moment where like that changed everything.
Yeah.
But that right before that Sunday before it was like, it was like, that Sunday before, it was like we were all just down horrifically bad for different reasons.
Those are the best Sundays, though.
We were like, yeah.
And then you're right back at it.
If a fucking meteor hit this bus, that would be...
Yeah, please.
I don't even have a phone.
If I'm getting taxed, I don't know.
I'll probably be fired. And this kid was a rando or what? Yeah, please. I don't even have a phone. If I'm getting taxed, I don't know. I'll probably be fired.
And this kid was a rando or what?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So we were on the bus outside Pop Belly's
and partying.
And from what I recall,
I don't think we'd done any drugs.
But...
Maybe we had.
Maybe we had.
No, definitely not.
But this kid, he looked like he was having a panic attack, an anxiety attack.
He's red and he's shaking.
I think he fell out of his chair.
Young kid, like college kid?
College kid, yeah.
He went to FSU.
And I didn't say it out loud, but in my head, I was like the opening scene of Bad Boys 2
when he's like, don't let her die in the club.
I was going to get her out.
Grab her on the fucking alley.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Get him off the bus.
That kid cannot die on the barstool bus.
You can die next to the barstool bus.
You can't die on the barstool bus.
Yeah, you can die on the fucking Tallahassee public street, but not on this goddamn bus.
But no, we like, it wasn't me, obviously.
Someone did something to like get him back to consciousness, and then we still called
him an ambulance.
Jeez.
He was like, he was.
We're talking like CPR type shit, or what?
It was.
Something like.
I don't think it was CPR, but it was like.
Just slapping him in the face, probably.
I think it was, I was too busy opening the door, going for his feet.
I was, I actually think think i actually think i like
i think i actually know i i left i saw it i ran from there was like a lot of people helping i was
like i can't do this right now like this is similar to final because final burn was like
young then i was like i saw i saw that all happening i was like yeah this is happening
i would probably be like i wasn't there pretty much what i just want i took a walk down the
block i was like this is like i can't do this. I was not there for that. I pretty much, I took a walk down the block. I was like, this is like, I can't do this fucking app.
I'm going to go back there.
That's either going to be resolved or that kid's going to be dead.
But I was going to be around the corner.
I'm going to go get arrested for assault until I have an alibi.
Yeah.
I didn't see the kid die.
I was too busy punching that chick in the face.
I was too busy spitting on a police horse.
Oh, man.
I love it, bro.
Congrats on everything, by the way.
You're going to be great in Chicago.
Thank you, thank you.
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