KFC Radio - It's Rat Boy Summer ft. Erika Ayers Badan

Episode Date: June 13, 2024

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Hey KFC Radio listeners, you can find every episode of KFC Radio on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. No, dude! That hurts! That hurts! On the inside, she's like, mother of... It's another edition of KFC Radio on the Barstool Sports Network. It is hot rodent summer, John.

Oh, I saw this yesterday. Sexy rat. Sexy rat is in. Okay. Gen Z has decided that they're the women of Gen Z, and I guess the gay guys of Gen Z have decided that they're they're the women uh of gen z and i guess the gay guys of gen z have decided that sexy rodents is the look for the summer okay uh and here here's the problem uh number one society does this all the time where you know it was dad bod at first um and it's like oh you you know your six-pack is only a little bit noticeable you know you're you're a size 34 instead of a 32 dad bod it's like i'll

show you a real fucking dad bod you know what i mean and so the the people they're declaring sexy rats wait i don't want to know yet. Okay. Because I want to guess. Okay, I think you probably can. Well, I want to just hearing sexy rat summer. I want to guess the Barstool employees who I think are going to fuck. And in that case, Marty Mush shouldn't have gotten engaged. Tommy.

Tommy's got some rat-like tendencies It's basically skinny Italians I was going to say Let me read A couple Blogs have written their descriptions And I'll tell you what I thought it was Meek's very rat-like You know who's going?

Sass These men tend to have angular facial structures You know who's a good one? Sass, I think. Sass is ratty? I think. Well, so here. These men tend to have angular facial structures, beady eyes, untidy hair, and are often lankier than a typical Hollywood heartthrob. Oh, I kind of nailed it the first time. It's essentially a lanky man over someone bulky, someone with sunken eyes and pale skin that scurries around instead of walking with a purpose. And then the last one is just saying it's not conventionally hot.

It's, you know, Chris Hemsworth is conventionally hot. Mattie Healy is is... Mattie Healy is incredibly conventionally handsome. So this is the thing. I was going to say, what these people are describing in my experience are Jewish men.

It might be a little problematic to say that because you're calling them rats. But in my experience, what you're describing is a Jewish guy. The real list that's floating around, Jeremy Allen White, Barry Cohegan and uh timothy chalamet like i i'm making a video right now i'm like showing pictures of jeremy allen white when he's doing the iron claw yeah yeah this is the rodent the sexy the sexy little rat he's fucking jacked and handsome as fuck you know so like they did this they did this uh they called it Big Dick Energy first. They didn't have a name for it, but that's what that meant. It was like Pete Davidson is not what you usually look like, but he has big dick energy.

So you just said that if you were attracted to a guy who was short, skinny, and pale, you go, oh, but he has big dick energy. And before that, we used to call them like hipsters or whatever. This is just a reincarnation of whatever's happened. But they're choosing to call them rats. I of like rat well here's the real thing so uh so i i did my research on this one and and like when it really started there's somebody in may of 2023 uh first started with the um you either look like a frog or a rat that was like an internet thing like oh really

people just fall into one of those two categories oh i'm definitely a frog yeah you're totally yeah you're totally uh but i don't know i don't know if every like what am i i don't think i'm a frog or a rat a rat probably no it's not i'd rather be a rock i think frogs are cooler what is what's a what is is a sexy rat I've been called a frog My whole life Which is the funny thing Yeah Like my whole life

Even before this was a thing Like you do look like Like you look like a frog Or like an amphibian I think he has more hot rodent Yeah cause he's He's got like a jawline Yeah

And you're like You're artsy And you got the Like the floppy hair A little bit I think you're gonna have A hot rodent subtle Before this started Kevin was like Jack you wanna make sure You're in here for a hot rodent subtle.

Before this started, Kevin was like, Jackie, I want to make sure you're in here for this to watch us suck Pabst's dick. I think Pabst is a sexy rat. I'll take it. I'll take it. I think it's hot rodent subtle for Pabst. Yesterday, you guys were like, you have no forehead.

Before this started, I said, you sound like a man. You're a frog. You would be a frog instead of a rat. But here's where... So these I take umbrage with a little bit because you're just naming these guys who are... It's basically you're not hulked up. But even some of these guys are.

But when it really started to go was when that zendaya movie came out challengers pull up those neither of those guys do it for me no but josh jake josh o'connor i am completely limp right now these motherfuckers look like rats yeah yeah. Yeah. Like these guys. Because when the list was out, I named those three A-listers, right? And then it said Josh O'Connor and Mike Faced. And I was like, who are those guys? And I Googled them and I was like, they are fucking rodents. Yeah, yeah.

So and that movie obviously was about like threesomes and fucking and stuff. Not a very good movie, by the way. I could have told you that. I don't know why people liked it. It was fine. I could have told you that one. But it wasn't. i i like look at that that picture right there the two of them together though the third one like those motherfuckers are rats you know but i guess like they could play young splinter in a live action film yes they really really could and it actually is funny that i asked jackie to

come in here because we would i was gonna going to say like, do you find those guys attractive? We could just do it ourselves. Like, would you have sex with those guys? Those guys don't do it for me. Yeah. Yeah. But I haven't seen the movie. So maybe.

Like, look at that. That one picture of him right there. Cause I saw his glow up or glow up. Well, like he completely rebranded himself for this movie. That's what he's like. That's not,

that's how he is. Look at this. Yeah. You know who has this a lot though? It's going to be controversial. Jackie's not going to agree with me. But Harry Styles has this a lot. I could see that. Harry Styles when he like.

No. I mean, okay. He has like a little bit of a rodent nature, but like. Like when you see, when I see original, like early on pictures of him, he looks like the child catcher from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. You probably don't know what I'm talking about, but it's a good reference. And then he like – when he cut his hair a little bit and probably figured everything out, it's like, okay, yeah, he's hot. But it's mostly that he's like an artsy rock star because the original look is like ratty hair.

Yeah. But that's Rat Boy Summer. That's Sexy Rat Summer. Yeah, you know, Harry Styles can definitely pass as a furry. I can see him fitting in the rodent-like category. He's incredibly handsome, but I can see it.

But you're also a rat. Google Child Catcher Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. You guys probably don't even know. I never even watched that movie. You never seen his movie? I've seen it, but I didn't re-watch it a bunch yeah that's early harry styles in what way there's pictures of him where he looks like that i wish i could find my own blog because i had i had like the perfect side by side where he really looked like that he had his pointy nose and his ratty hair, and I was like, this guy is the number one sex icon in the world.

But then he cuts his hair, and he, like, you know, puts on a suit. It really does go – it's crazy how much things – how guys can – like, if you do get – you get a good haircut, a little bit of a tan, put on a suit, like, almost anybody can get hot. You know what I mean? Oh, for sure. Or at least, like, like oh a girl would fuck you yeah okay that's the one you just typed in harry's ugly like everyone

but you know you can't you type in chris hemsworth ugly see what happens i think google breaks because that's the other thing at the end of the day like you can talk we we did um it's short kings everybody's gonna fuck a short king. And that meant, like, five foot ten. And dad bod meant, like, you're, like, 190 pounds instead of 180 pounds. So at the end of the day, like, these guys, the Brad Pitts, the Hemsworths, are still, like, king hotness. Yeah. But these fads come in. yeah but these fads come in you know

well these fads come in and it's really i if we could trace them back to where they began i'm sure it's with women but it's to justify the fact that they fuck ugly guys because they're just aren't hot guys right you can't get there it's like you can't hot guys this is just pr marketing for regular guys like i'm into a dad bod i like a rat face like it's just what we all look like imagine imagine if you're one of these girls the last three years you were like i'm into dad bods uh uh it was his dad bods short kings rat face You're just fucking a fat short guy with pointy nose. That's your type because you can't fuck a Hemsworth. And you got to spin it as, you know, but he plays guitar or he's an actor.

They all sound like heroes in a mutant universe. Ah, that's the rat king. The short king and rat face yeah yeah no but there's something like inherently hot about like a guy with like i remember like even in like middle school there was this guy with a lazy eye and all the girls were like i don't know why but that lazy eye is doing something for all of us and like that was the first time i was like i don't like i don't know like like if i if i was walking around with a lazy eye, you guys would be like,

what's up with you? Yeah. Listen, I went through that. That chick's got no forehead anally. Yeah, I mean, Riggs went through surgery to get rid of his. One of the cheapest Barstool moves of all time. You can't change the thing like that.

That's the thing we make fun of you for. You don't have to do that. But I didn't think you were gonna say lazy eye because i think that is definitively ugly but i do think uh with with women there's something attractive about at least at least the the appearance that you don't care about your appearance even though these guys do it's like yeah oh i just like have like greasy hair and i'm and i'm pale and i I have sunken eyes and I don't care. Whereas Hemsworth is perfect hair, tanned up, muscled up.

This other guy, like the Matt Healy. There's a reason why Taylor Swift was like, I'm going to dump my hoity-toity boyfriend and go fuck this bad boy sort of thing. It really all comes down to the bad boy thing. It's tough for men. There are never any of these for chicks because women are beautiful. There's never like, oh, it's fat girl summer. No. There are any robot-looking women around.

That's really what I'm into for the next three months. Give me a Harry Broad for this season. Because we have the option to have sex with beautiful people. Women just don't have the option. Yep. It really is true. Guess I'm going to go slumming in the gutters, find me a rat king. It's so funny that they're calling them rats and rodents.

It's like definitively the most like you know that's like such an insult you know like you look like a fucking rat and now it's like my newest obsession is type in ceo of lux club he's so hot what's lux club is like the jewish dating app so like the fact that I could never. I thought you said Lux at first. He's so. He's definitely a rap boy. No, he's like just conventionally attractive.

I mean, he's got a rap look too. I think he kind of looks like Fugman. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I can see that. Who? Alex Bennett's baby daddy. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point.

He looks just like him. I mean, I haven't seen a ton of Fuggman. What's that guy's name? Fuggman? I think so. Right? Yeah. I thought that was like a character here.

Fuggman. I said that watching, quick aside, the Minahan-Burson-New York basketball game yesterday. Oh, fuck. I missed that. It was like... How'd it go? I think the final score went by like 11. first New York basketball game yesterday. Oh, fuck. I missed that. It was like... How'd it go? We dominated. I think, like, the final score went by, like, 11,

but I had it on mute. Did Dana Beers destroy Coleman? I don't... I had it on mute, so I... Coleman was running that amount. From what I saw, Marty was the star of the game, but, again, I didn't hear commentary. I was kind of just watching while paying attention to something else.

But towards the end, I finally got it off mute and was watching. It was funny listening to the commentary where it was like, oh, and here goes Beanbag. And I'm like, who the fuck is named Beanbag? And they're like, great job from Marty Mush. I'm like, that's right, my good pal. Everybody's name is fucking stupid here. So are you down with Rodent Summer?

That's not like my type, really. I'm not not down with Rodent Summer, but like... You don't like juice? Yeah, just say it. You're anti-Semitic. I really don't like saying that. You don't like Italians. No, I just said that the Locks Club CEO was my type.

Yeah, that's true. You can't call her anti-Semitic if she likes the billion dollar Jewish guy who runs the dating app. I think it's more like the arts. I just don't think an artsy guy would even want me. I'm not. Again, we have to put the clarifying statement out there that Jackie went on a date with a homeless man. So it's not like her standards really matter. Homeless girl summer.

But you could run into a rat on the street right now that's a homeless person and you don't want to have sex with them. You run into the same guy and he's on stage playing a guitar at the bar or some shit. You're going to want to fuck him. So it's always more about the full package. And that's always with chicks, right? That's why you can get away with the dad bod. Except for short. Short kings does not really work.

Girls hate short guys. But all of Hollywood is short. Yeah, but they're hot and rich. So there's a balance of it all. And if you're not hot and rich or famous and rich and you're short, you're in trouble. But if you're tall and kind of fat, you're okay. Tall and greasy, you're okay. But whole wise, you're okay. Tall and greasy, you're okay. Butthole-wise, you're okay.

Things that are absolutely materialistically ugly. So if you right now had – you go to the bar and you see like a – you know what they posed it as? They said it's like the opposite of a banker bro like a patagonia bro yeah and i think that's a good because like which is just the eternal fight like yeah like businessmen versus fucking uh artists that's that's yep it's the jock versus the theater kids it's the you know, that is really the eternal struggle. It's, you know, like we said, it's constantly being, like, updated and repurposed. But it's just the same argument we have. But it keeps the universe in balance.

It really kind of does. Like, I think for a while, even relatively recently, like, you know, you go back to, like, the 50s. I don't think, like, the artsy kids were fucking. I think it was, like, the jocks. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know if you if you got the artsy kids i don't know but like yeah then you're doing fucking i don't know what the 50s music was but it's fucking rock and roll or whatever yeah like rock and roll it's fucking yeah woodstock hippies yeah yeah i guess you're right i guess you're right you know what's interesting is i

feel like gen z now we've like i mean i don't even know if i but like we've like entered the workforce and so everyone before was like i want a finance guy and then once you actually realize like how much time the finance guys like you don't see the finance guy if you date the finance guy right they also suck i was gonna say i didn't think that was gonna be the reason you don't want to be the reason you reach a point where you either just completely decide you are looking for money or not yeah and if you are you stick with the finance bankers guys and if you're not they suck and you don't see them so you don't care about that anymore but it depends on if you

are gonna be a real adult and make your own money or just leech off of someone else for the rest of your life yeah i also i mean like obviously if I found it, I'd date him. But, like, I don't. Looking for a guy in finance. Yeah. Did I hear, by the way, that she got a record deal? I'm sure she did. I heard she did. Which is fucking insane.

Who's that? The girl who came up with the TikTok. I'm looking for a guy in finance. Six Five, Blue Eyes. That's all she said. And then, like, DJs remixed it and stuff. And she got the record deal. It's literally, they just loop it. Looking for a guy in finance. I like it on stuff. And she got the record deal.

It's literally, they just loop it. Look at my record. I like it on record. I said we should hire her two years ago. Really? I said it two years ago. Because of that? No, I saw one TikTok. I was like, she's hilarious.

She's a crush. And now she's got millions of followers and money. I've done that a couple times myself. What were you saying? I was just saying, I have now officially like gone enough like hinge dates where it's like I don't give a fuck

about your job like I don't want to hear about it I don't want to have to act like I care I don't want to have to act like yeah exactly

it's like I'm sick of like like having you try to explain like pretending like I know what like fucking the markets are doing the markets are doing

and I'm like oh my god oh my god I don't care oh my god I don't care so I'm like, oh, my God. Oh, my God, I don't care. Oh, my God, I don't care. So I'm like, I'm just like, I'm done. But those guys, like, either think you do or want you to. Yeah, because I'm like, I act like I do, but like... Well, right.

Do you really think I care? You guys have fucked up so bad. You guys, girls dropped the ball so bad. You guys had the world in the palm of your hands with the power of the pussy, and you just blew it. Dating apps, you just fuck everybody, and you listen to them babble about their jobs. You got to stop fucking these guys. Like, if a guy sucks, don't bang him. And it'll all change really quickly, I promise you.

Yeah, yeah. If all the finance guys didn't get laid, they would stop being finance guys. Because it sucks. You do work, like, 100-hour work weeks. But you're like, I'm going to go out to the club in New York City and all these girls are going to suck my dick. If that stopped happening, you would probably just get a fucking artsy job. You'd be like, I'm a janitor, but I play in a band. Oh, you'll suck my dick?

Cool. Just stop doing it. I don't think I have asked the question to girls just because it's like that's how you have conversation. I have never, ever cared about a girl's job in my whole fucking life. Unemployed, fine. You're a kindergarten teacher, fine. You work in PR because you all work in PR, fine. I don't care.

Every girl, I'm in PR marketing. How is that possible? You all do that? But okay. Like, whatever. That's what you do to make money. Cool. You know?

Tell me something else. Interesting. Whatever. I feel like that's the thing. It's like all girls, like, whenever, like, guys don't ask,

like, whenever I've gone on a date, like, they don't ever ask a question. But it's like, girls, like, I don't actually care, but I'll ask you and like they don't ever ask a question but it's like girls like i don't actually care but i'll ask you and i'll act like you gotta like can you fucking do the same once so i don't understand why there's not like the the you know reciprocation the it is like i i think the cure i suppose for all this is women you guys have to come to terms with the idea that this is it this is as good as it gets yeah you guys keep creating these campaigns to explain

you're fucking ugly guys it's just they're just my options guys i don't have anything it's like it's like if i was like yeah i love taylor swift but like oh not for her music it's i like when you go to the concerts they're so much fun and they're so like like no i just like the fucking music just admit i like the music like i just like ugly guys guys are ugly i like guys do you think it's uh i think it's uh i got to word this correctly. I think it's easier for girls – they are just, first of all, a naturally prettier being, right? Yes. And I think just with makeup and self-tanner and all that shit they do, it's, like, easier to get to, like, the attractive level. I feel like a guy is pretty tough like you either got to like

be in really good shape and like work out which is hard or and you're born with like a jawline you know what i mean no we don't really do much to but they but we don't have to get as high you know what i mean i i think i think there's way more ugly dudes out there and it's just that we get by on our humor and our job and money and all that shit but if if you're ugly as a guy and you want to get like hot it's pretty hard i just i don't i think i think it's just as easy it is for women how do you get hot a beard a hat like like like with like we say like makeup like okay have facial hair like have big sunglasses it's cover cover your face yeah that's a's what I make, right? Yeah, but I mean, it's like...

I think men don't put in any effort whatsoever. Like, none. And men pride themselves on that. Like, I don't try at all. Yeah, no, it shows. I would have guessed. But they keep fucking around. But I don't think it's that hard.

I mean, the beard is for sure. But I don't, I mean... I mean, you're not not gonna be runway ready but like yeah you cannot be grotesque like you walk around this office it wouldn't be that hard for everyone to not look grotesque right put on like a decent shirt and grow a beard and you're fine yeah and the hat is the cheat the cheat code too a beard and a hat would be the backwards hat yeah it's so funny it's so funny it's hard though you can't wear a backwards hat like all the time yeah or at a certain age too it's like you look ridiculous but like whenever like a guy wears a backwards hat i'm like why don't you just do that all the time i know but because you look like a child you know

what i mean like oh my god it's so it's so little boy summer for jackie that literally last night jackie they would they were turning their hats around and a fucking mouthful of big league chill god i'm taking that out you guys don't even know how much I take out of me. You're right, we don't. How per episode do you take out? How many minutes? Did you put the forehead stuff in?

Yeah, I kept that in. But all the nipple stuff, out. You took out all the parts where we made fun of your old big nipples? Yeah. Big old nipples? No, no, no, no, no. What about his nipples? All the nipples? No, no, no, no, no. What about his nipples? All the nipples?

No, no, no, no. No, I kept it in your nipples. That's fucked up. Yeah, but I think about my... I'm just going to go make videos on my own Instagram now. About my nipples? Yeah. I want the world to know that Jackie has weird nipples and she took it out of the podcast. Yeah, because you guys don't understand like the pain in torture

that it is to have to edit yourself and so sometimes I just go I can't do it today and I just take it I don't even listen I just cut

and I just take it out so when we like so when we get out of here and we're like man Jackie was great that episode it comes out people don't even know

I produced this episode they're like Jackie wasn't even in the episode what are you guys talking about? Who's Jackie? Who the fuck is Jackie?

Somebody said that the other day when I announced Steve was a part of the gang. They were like, it should have been Jackie. I was like, she's a part of the gang. They were like, she deserves to be the third Mike. And I was like, what the fuck? That'd be funny if they were like, they've been staring at me in years.

Yeah, maybe she's just editing it out too much. Jackie's probably going to cut this part out. I'd like to be very clear. We beg Jackie to be the third Mike. No, they're bad. I beg Jackie to be the first Mike. No, I do keep it, like most of it. And I never cut you guys.

So, are you going to go find a rat? Like, because I know you said it's not your type, but, like, it's in, and that's what you do. I'll probably find another guy. I'll probably be like, no. Jack is like, I'd like to be on Trent. Yeah, you don't want to be the lame girl who's fucking this beautiful guy in shape. Yeah. Paz will have a hot road in summer.

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I haven't watched it, but I've seen it. It's ridiculous. They just put him in glasses and made him tuck in his shirt. It's like, he's weird and nerdy. Glenn fucking Powell. It's like she's all that. in glasses and made him tuck in his shirt. It's like, he's weird and nerdy. Glenn fucking Powell. It's like, she's all that. I actually thought they did an okay job. Really?

I don't think this is hilarious. I thought it was, like, because he did a great job of kind of, he made his voice a little whinier. And then he had, like, long, almost like John Cena jean shorts. Like, really big, baggy, long ones. And it was, like, yeah. I mean, he's still Glenn Powell, no doubt. But it was...

Well, this all kind of goes in a little bit with what we're talking about. It's like... He's a little ratty. He's a little ratty. Yeah. It's the nose. It's really about the nose. He's very attractive, the woman in this movie.

Ridiculous. Holy cow. I don't know what her deal is. I think she's in a Star Wars thing. Adriana O'Hara. She is. Oh, yeah. Jiminy Christmas.

This is what we call a wheelhouse John Fidelberg. See how fun it is to get to have sex with people who you don't have to describe as a rat like dude yeah that's got a girl i've been too hot it's actually a really good thing but we were talking about the other day that we only associate in here on the microphone because if we were out together we would be fighting for these girls because your wheelhouse and my wheelhouse is a complete intersecting

Venn diagram. We would be like Drake and all these rappers who fuck all the same girls. They'd be fighting all the time. This girl is unbelievable. Is she dating Momoa? It looks like it. Momoa's sitting at home going, I look like a rat.

I look like a traditionally handsome guy. This stinks. I'm a superhero. Nobody wants that. Oh, yeah. A Puerto Rican lawyer. So she just divorced her husband. Yeah, she did.

Yeah, she did. Oh, no, they separated. They were just boyfriend. Boyfriend, girlfriend. No, I'm sure she broke up with him and started dating. Yeah, Momoa. There we go. Yep, there it is.

2024. Months before going, mm-hmm. Dude, I feel, I'm sure whoever this Puerto Rican, oh, that's him? Okay, never mind. I do feel bad for him. He looks like a rat. So this guy, Puerto Rican lawyer, looks like Mr. Bean, looks like a rat, and he lands this girl. Got a mean three head on him. Bro.

Looks like Jackie. Looks like Jackie. He's got the same exact hairline as you. Look at that. It's just a perfect arc. It just goes from eyebrow tip to eyebrow tip. The eyebrows are also unreal. But this guy, like, I'm sure he's very smart and wealthy and all that shit,

but, like, he lands this girl, and he's got to be like, holy shit, I'm the man. And then somehow, someway, they get on set together or whatever, and Jason Momoa comes along and just Mr. and Mrs. Smith's your ass. See you later, pal. I would not be mad about that. I would be like, if she came home and was like, we're getting a divorce. By the way, I'm fucking Jason Momoa. I'd be like, thank you.

I'm just honored to even be in this conversation. Por supuesto. Yo, I am getting such a kick out of uh j-lo um like getting exposed for like genuinely not being hispanic like not being spanish it's unbelievable like she doesn't know spanish she does not know how to speak spanish and it's always kind of been a thing within the spanish community like they've known it but it recently has like you know come to light she was in a

interview with oh shit what's his name the black guy from this is us something Sterling yeah it's not Donald Sterling but he's yeah uh it's not donald sterling but he's he's an american it's a three three letters or whatever yeah um so he's just like a black guy

something k sterling ronald yes yes that guy so he's black and then the other co-host was asian and they both speak fluent spanish and they're talking to a uh like a telemundo uh uh interviewer and they're like like speaking like crazy and then j-lo's doing the interview and she's like uh um you know and like the guys are looking at her like you don't know any of the words i mean even ben affleck knows like more spanish i was gonna say ben affleck doesn't ben affleck speak fluent spanish yeah like he speaks more spanish than she does and like i always thought it was like, you know, whatever. Sterling K. Brown.

That's what it is. I was saying J.K. Sterling. He's the man. He's a great actor. He's the highlight of American fiction, which is a great movie. But he's so fucking funny in it. He's so good in that. That was my favorite performance of the year.

He was awesome. What's the main character's name?'s that called american fiction that's great what was it about um it's like a black book is written like for black like it's like like like a black voice that you that like white america wants but it's like it's very like prison speak like the guys the guy's been to jail. And he went to Harvard. And he's like... Oh, so he's just phony?

Yeah. He writes it as a joke to send it, and the studios love it or the publishers love it. Is it a comedy? Yeah. Oh, okay.

What's his name? Thelonious. Monk. Yeah. When he's taking the shot... It might be the hardest I've laughed at the theater in the last year.

When he's taking the shot by the car and Monk's like, he's like, he's taking a shot at 8 a.m. And he's still got the nip in his mouth. He's like, I'm not flying the fucking plane, Monk. He's the guy from Westworld, right? Yeah. Yeah. He's a good actor, too. I'm not flying the fucking plane, Monk.

That's funny. So good. um in the fucking plane that's funny so good imagine being j-lo she made a like documentary about herself and just exposed herself not even herself ben affleck right all of it like i i haven't seen it but i've read in the thing where he's kind of giving statements like yeah i thought it was the most uh beautiful love story never told but seems like you're kind of just telling it. He, like, dude, I love Ben Affleck so much. I hated his Brady roast, obviously.

But he, but I liked that. That it was so bad. Yeah. I would love nothing more. My number one white whale in the world right now would be to do an interview with Ben Affleck and just talk openly about that and just be like, what the fuck happened there, man? But he...

It was like they were backstage and everyone was talking and he thought, oh, you guys are joking? Joke? Oh, you're not doing a diatribe about American fans and the way they treat yeah we'll draw a simple up for you quick no no no i'm good i'm good oh you guys have had a team of writers doing this for six months i'm just gonna wing it yeah it should work out and i don't

think there's that many people watching right uh but like she she she um like went back to the bronx and was like this is where i used to to get ham and cheese on a roll with orange drink. If you're from the Bronx, you know what I mean. Orange drink. And everyone was like, what are you talking about? I saw that one, but I also saw a lot of people doing it. I know exactly what you're talking about. I guess so, but the way she said it was like, it was something that was like, whatever, either way.

A lot of it was just like, you're not. She canceled her tour. Chandler did the Super Bowl like four years ago. Was it that with her and Shakira in Miami? Yeah, right? That was like four or five years ago. She is, in my mind, was like one of the biggest stars because she had like the bilingual shit and like global music, acting, all of it. And now like she flat out had to cancel a tour.

That's like to lose it like that. She must be. She's gonna be suicidal. That doesn't really happen that often where you're that big and you lose it like overnight because she tried to do a tour for her album but nobody gave a fuck about this new album so then they quietly changed it to like this is a eras tour like a legacy tour oh they probably should have loudly did that but you're gonna come see all of j-lo's hits and that didn't work and they just canceled them all and she's like i'm spending time with my family it's like fuck off um last episode i was talking about how much i was i'm re-watching season one of house of the dragon and i was like how was i on team black yeah these guys are fucking horrible

and one episode later i was like fuck team green now i remember why but the bottom line is everybody in game of thrones is a piece of shit. They are all just horrible people. And they are all just doing terrible things. And it makes for some very good entertainment. House of the Dragon is back this Sunday, 9 o'clock on Max. It's great. Rewatching it for the second time, it's even better than I remembered.

It's pretty intense. And there are some real hateable characters and some really strong storylines. And so I'm hoping that we're back to like, you know, we have another several seasons of true Game of Thrones content. House Targaryen is divided. The kingdom must choose a king. The Queen Rhaenyra is being sent to exile.

There's two sides to it, just like there's two sides to every story. And both of them really do have different claims and different things you can understand. And they all got dragons. So it is the true Game of Thrones experience. House of the Dragon, Season 2. Pick a side, green or black, and let the good times roll. It's 9 p.m. on Max. You don't want to be missing the show that everyone's talking about

on Monday morning, so watch your Sunday night, Season 2. Hot D. June 16th, 9 p.m. on Max. What was that? I hope we have that on video. Did you slap him? No, it was just an intrusive thought. I was going to say, I'm impressed you didn't like yelp that was one of the more satisfying things we'll be doing that again

so little regard for other people's lives she She will throw shit at your face. She will hurt you. She will harm you. I had that literally last time I was in Chicago. Someone was putting up a banner or something like that. They have that railing that overlooks the court. Oh, okay. And I turned the corner, and I was like, I forget what I was wearing. I was like, dude, how bad do you want to kick that ladder?

And he goes, what is wrong with you? And I was like, I mean, that would be hilarious. I didn't do it, obviously, but I was like, that would have been really fucking funny if you just kicked them out and made them follow stories. Jesus. You're sick, too. I wouldn't do that. Look at that. Oh, my God. I can't believe you didn't make that you know what

alright put it on put it on tough guy do it the full way you guys tell me what's acceptable that's where it was that didn't hurt at all you didn't do it as good it didn't have the same I was gonna say She wore that like You didn't do it as good It didn't have the same

I know something didn't hurt Hang on We have to really hurt Jackie Why didn't that work? What the fuck? One more time You have to put it on the ground Yeah yeah

You gotta hold your arm down She's a freak though She's not gonna react no matter what No dude That hurts That hurts On the inside On the inside She's like going to react no matter what. No, dude. That hurts. On the inside, she's like, Mother of God.

No, no, I'm just not a little bitch. Did you see Kai Sinat last night? No. I mean, I know I saw he's with Kevin Hart. Yes, we did one with Kevin Hart. Did one with Drewski, and then he did it together. Yeah.

700,000 people were watching. 700,000. And I can't figure out if this is real or not i think it's real because and the internet i think is treating as real kevin hart called lebron facetime lebron and he answers and he's like what's up my and he says the n-word and druski's like, what's up, mate? And he says the N-word. And Drewski's like, LeBron says? He's like, you say LeBron says that? And Kevin Hart's being like, I'm on live right now. And he's like, you're on the internet?

He's like, I'm on a live stream right now. And you hear the voice go like, oh, shit. And the whole time, Drewski's going, LeBron says? And he's just saying it over and over again. I mean, was there ever any doubt? I always assumed that LeBron said the answer. Yes, but I don't think we ever heard it, really. Where would you have seen that or heard that? But to be so shocked.

I could see it being thinking, whoa, I haven't heard that. But I wouldn't be shocked. It was so funny. And Kai said, LeBron James. They're just clowning. thinking whoa i haven't heard that but i wouldn't be shocked it was so funny and kaisa net's gone they're just clowning and kevin hart's looking at me do you know how many people are watching this right now 700 000 it's almost being like these kids have set almost a million people and then uh like he turned they had every other streamer watching their stream so now there's videos of them being green screened

with their stream in the background with these streamers, like, they're cut out, all reacting to, like, when they turn the camera and it's LeBron. And they're all just, like, going crazy. It is, I think the whole streaming thing is so awesome. Look, all these guys in the bottom, they're all other streamers just reacting

to when Kevin Hart pulls up LeBron. And I think probably those guys were all doing like hundreds of thousands. But they just had like a straight up sleepover. They were wrestling. They ate the hot chip. Kevin Hart fell asleep first. They poured a bucket of water on him. They literally had a little sleepover.

And I think it looks so much fun it looks so great he keeps dancing these two just start wrestling the table's falling over he's doing like dropping elbows on them they brought a roll tide willie in I mean Kevin Hart is a billionaire

and he's like I'll go sleep over at that kid's house but doesn't that make more sense than billionaires who don't act like that agreed i i think that's why kevin hart is like the savviest guy in the world but yeah i'm gonna go do fun stuff right right fun stuff and i think he very much recognizes the value of like like kaisa not just like good but even that i i hate one like that like attaching that kind of stuff to it. Because maybe that's why. And I'm not speaking to why Kevin Hart is bugged.

I would do it because it's fun. Yeah. Should we have sleepovers, bro? Yeah. I really would do it. I mean, they fucking crush these guys with buckets of water. It's unbelievable. I would do that in a heartbeat.

Have you guys come over? Sober sleepover? They did it. Nick did it the other day right recently i i think the world i i mean to me i don't know about you when i was a kid that was like the funnest thing sleepover i don't know what this what this uh that what is that that's from um the girl tyla that sings water the Make Me Swim you know that song? She's really hot and she was on Kai's live stream

and then he was trying to shoot a shot and she was like we're friends now Oh I remember what I was going to say now this is another streaming thing so when we were talking about the black shows the dude from Power, Thomas Rain jr he's in

power oh i saw i didn't see i i literally just read this thomas rainey jr uh stream sexual assault that'll do it um he went to i believe he went to a streamer's house and i think this streamer is like famous and and does well but i think he also is just one of these guys who just streams from his house so his sister was there and uh look at her see that girl like in the corner there where you can just see her head like down below she's just grabbing his dick and he's like look at him he's like and she's all like whispering in his ear and shit. And everyone was like, that dude was sexually assaulted. Yeah. I mean, he was.

I'll be honest. It doesn't hit the same as it would have if it were. Isn't that so funny? Like, he put up a. It's awful. I'm not condoning it, blah, blah, blah. But, like, I would not be able to watch this if it was a man doing it to a woman i'm watching right if there was a guy just leaning over a girl just rubbing her crotch it would be fucking insane you know and that's society's fault that i don't feel this way

but it's not like i can just watch it i'm not like what the fuck but he so it's funny that he feels this way too because we all do it and i know it is the trope to be like if it was a if it was white entertainment television you know blah blah blah like you always just do the reverse so it's funny that he feels this way too. Cause we all do it. And I know it is the trope to be like, if it was a, if it was white entertainment television, you know, blah, blah, blah. Like you always just do the reverse and it's so cliche,

but he posted being like, I'm shocked that this happened. And I still don't really know how to like handle this. And I, and I, I think he means more like, you know, he says like,

this technically is sexual assault and that is a very serious topic. I almost feel like he feels like he has to take it very seriously. Otherwise, he's poo-pooing it, you know? But I'm sure he's like, yo, some fucking chick was grabbing my dick. Like, whatever. I don't want to, like, sue her. But then the brother, or the guy, the streamer, posted about his sister and was like, I'm shocked and disgusted by my sister's behavior. I don't know what she was

thinking. Whatever Thomas Rainey wants to do, I will understand. If you want to sue my family, whatever. I mean, you've got to handle it that way because otherwise you look like you're... The facts of the matter is it's insanely different.

That guy could have been like, shut up, man. My sister was grabbing your dick. You would have got away with it. He's obviously handling it the right way, but he could have gone the other direction and people probably would have been like, eh, whatever. But, I mean, that dude was just he was like, oh. I think I

always remember the time I was guest bartending and I took a picture with the stoolie and her husband and she didn't, she washboarded me. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Like,

like she was like, before the picture, she was like, can I just do this for a minute? And I was just standing there and I was like, what the fuck is that? Like it went on so long, too long.

Like I started looking around and meanwhile, my balls are still getting jiggled. And I was just like, all right, I guess we take the picture now. Dude, imagine a guy just being like, let me just rub your clit real quick. All right, take the picture. I was like, hang on, let me get hard for us. A little bit longer.

I'm almost there. I'm almost there. I don't even want to come. I just want you to not feel my fucking limp dick oh man let me have a shot of uh what was the drink they drank the um red sox drank what's jamaica not so jamaican dominican to get your mom Not such a Jamaican. Dominican. Mamawana. Mamawana. Yeah. Ma'am. Now she does know Puerto Rican drinks to get you hard. Let's do some boy spells. Let's do it.

Mamajuan. Mamajuan. Mamajuan. Yeah. Why do you know what it is? Because you asked me to get it. Okay. I remember that.

And I thought you were talking about Mamawana. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. um yeah why do you know what it is because you asked me to get it okay i remember that and i thought you oh yeah yeah didn't you send me i sent you like a whole like menu of yeah yeah i don't know why i wanted the mama joanna but yeah jackie just sent back a little text like can you find mama joanna yeah yeah and she's done back she sent back just like a drug dealer's menu. She's like, what do you want? Gangster, bro. Jackie's the plug. Yeah.

How's it going, guys? This is our boy. So I've been thinking a lot about the viral clip of the lady in the Edmonton Oilers crowd who flashed her titties and went super viral. What's like the male equivalent of that? You know, if they pan to me in the crowd, there's no chance

I'm going viral because I don't have titties to dump out. Yeah. What's the male equivalent of going viral for flashing your titties first of all shout out to the checklist guys you see the tractor down yeah yeah that was great that would let me did you watch it biz biz asking if they're real so they real or fake is that rude and like she she is obviously now embracing it going on chicklets but in the beginning

she was not happy about it. I mean, you can't really be upset about this. But she was trying to get it taken off the internet, and she was worried about it. So it was a little bit uneasy to be like, so are those real or not? It's also insane. They were the biggest tits of all time. We know. But the equivalent isn't. It's's not the beer truck because the beer truck

so common well it used to it used i should say it used to be yeah a matter of probably about two to three years ago if you chugged beer on the jumbotron or whatever it was viral it was awesome you were cool you instantly had like street cred now it is like everybody does yeah so i think it's pretending to suck your friend's dick that's a good one yeah or or making your friend like just grabbing your friend's head yeah that that um we need somebody to do that who would do that who's big enough to be on the jumb, that – we need somebody to do that. Who would do that? Who's big enough to be on the Jumbotron?

DeStefano would do that. Get DeStefano at some New York event and just – There really is not much you can do as a guy. Then you just helicopter your dick. Yeah, well, it's kind of like what we were just talking about It's not okay If I take my piece out You're going to be like that's insane It's playful to have

Some nice western Canadian titties up there I watched something the other day And there was a hard dick in it And I was pretty surprised by that Because there's a lot of cock Did you watch A Man in Full? No, what's that? That's the show with the final scene I was describing.

Where the guy takes a pillow and it's a hard dick. Oh, no. Yeah. But it was something else. Or maybe I'm just mixing it up and we were talking about that. But there's a lot of limp dick out there. But you don't see a hard one. I was, like, on West Side Highway the other day,

and I saw, like, this guy I used to talk to, and he was reading on West Side Highway, and I was like, all right, slut. Like, you're absolutely... Try harder. You fucking whore. Why don't you take your dick out and put up a sign that says, fuck me?

Yeah, you're obviously still single. So am I. I was going to say, Jackie's like running on the West Side Highway. You're both just being sluts. I'm like sports bra. Yeah. Right. Right.

Were you saying something else about that? Nope. That was it. No? All right. No, it was good. I just thought. In terms of guys,

the guys being slutty and girls being... If a girl's reading a book, it's no big deal. A guy's reading a book. If a girl's slashing her tits, a guy's reading on them. Yeah, but the difference in that, it's like, you have to show us your nips, and a guy, if he's just reading a book,

it's like, oh my my god we gotta fuck this guy depends on if he looks like a rat next up hey guys i'm a huge fan um so have you ever had something happen to you that you're like there's no way anyone's ever gonna believe this like but it's so insane that like you uh like couldn't have made it up my sister says the story like if she didn't know me she would never believe this story last may 2023 my cat passed away like she woke me up in the middle of the night she's really old i knew what's happening so i laid with her while she passed and i was trying to find a place to go get her cremated because I wasn't gonna go dig a hole and I finally found like the SPCA I had to call them when they opened she died at like 5 a.m

I they opened at like 12 so I called them they were like okay you can bring her in at two I was like okay so I take her there I filled all the paperwork pass her over walk outside there's this really cute dog out there and I'm just like oh that's a really cute dog like just walk into my car the volunteer's like oh yeah like he's really cute like he's up for adoption this dog it's just like this dog was had his tongue out super happy walks this dog closer to me like I wasn't trying to pet it or anything this dog instantly attacks me, grabs onto my arm. I was wearing a hoodie and a sports bra, so I wasn't taking my hoodie off, but I was able to get my arm from my sleeve into the body of my hoodie. I did that, and then the dog realized it wasn't attacking anything more, so it

went after my side. This entire time, the volunteer's like, I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry, I don't know how to get him off, I don't know how to get him off. I'm like, it's okay, it's okay. Then he goes after my side this entire time the volunteer's like i'm so sorry i'm so sorry i don't know how to get him off i don't know how to get him off i'm like it's okay it's okay then he goes after my side and really got me and i'm like i don't fucking care stop apologize and get this fucking dog off me so 10 to 15 minutes this dog was attacking me no i she finally got it off i'm bleeding she's like let me go get help so she goes to get some they sent me into the bathroom give me a t-shirt to change into like we'll call you an ambulance. I was like, hell no. Like, I'm not, I'm driving myself to the hospital. I'm not going to the hospital in Baltimore city. I've already been down here for like, it's 45 minutes away from my house. I'm not doing this.

So I go to the hospital there for like two hours, completely bleeding through the shirt they gave me have scars from this and then um they decided to give me one stitch because it was bleeding so bad when they usually don't this all happened on a thursday they told me to come back in on sunday get it checked out make sure everything's okay saturday i didn't really think anything of it but my arm was really swollen like i could barely get it into my sweatshirts i was like you know it's probably just from all the trauma i I debating if I should go in on Sunday. I was like, no, I'm not going to go. And I was like, you know what? I should go. I go in there and the doctor takes one look at my arm. He's like, you're not leaving. You should be planning to stay tonight. I was like, what? So apparently my arm was infected. They had to check me for

sepsis every 15 minutes. They thought my organs were going to start failing any second. I was in the hospital for five days. So. It just ends? Just ends. Yeah. Bro, I'm still not sure. I think her arm's gone.

I was waiting for it to pan over and just have like a stump. Wait, what the hell is that? Bro, that was like, I need the sequel. Doom 2, I got to wait a couple years for the sequel or something. That's crazy. Do you think she did that on purpose? No. No, I feel like she must have edited.

I don't know. She must have said. That's crazy. I don't really know what to say to that except for send the rest of the video. That is crazy. You get those infections and it's no fucking around time. You can lose limbs.

You can die. You get one of those shits. My buddy got MRSA at Mardi Gras and had to stay in New Orleans for two weeks after that. Yeah, it's really, really not a joke. I mean, that's like I was waiting for the cannibal punchline. That sounds like an urban legend. You know what I mean? Like you're waiting for something totally fake to happen.

Bleeding, getting attacked by a dog for 10 to 15 minutes is insane he had to pick up his ass yeah that is true right that's how you stop him sean berthol shove your thumb up his ass john berthol ran across a field to save that guy come up the pit bull's ass i love when they when i've heard that described they're like that's the way to get dogs to stop attacking that's the way to get anything if a human's beating somebody up and you stick a finger up their ass they're gonna stop for a second i promise you that um but like it's like me crying the other day for like 35 minutes like i hope that i hope that that's like an exaggeration like when when you say like, so 10 to 15 minutes go by. Cause if you're getting actively attacked for 15, like fighting it off for 15 minutes,

like no kidding. You're, you're almost dead. You were, you were probably like cut to pieces and it's all right after you, you know, you bringing a, a,

a pet to the, to the, to get cremated is wild. I, I, I guess my parents did that for me the only dog that we had that died like you just kind of like bag it up and fucking put it in the back seat yeah well i've i've only done it once i mean it's happened twice but i was only involved once and that was uh we that was the that was a very funny story right yeah yeah it was hilarious

it was really fun. Do you want a group cremation? No, we cannot holocaust my dog. Lump him in with the other ones. Just have an option, a group cremation post-1940s. What is it like? You save like $10? I honestly think it was the same price. It wasn't a jarring difference at all.

No. My dog's dead body gets its own flames. Thank you very much. Jesus Christ. Do you want to take it home and bury it myself? What are you, nuts? All right, last one. So I'm out driving. uh i live in like a smaller town and this gentleman in a motorized wheelchair just rips right across four lanes of traffic

no lights no stop sign just completely putting his trust in every driver to not smoke him. I just thought, like, that's a lot of trust to put in people you don't really know. I think this every day. My question is, like, what is something where you just put an ungodly amount of trust in people who could absolutely fuck you over and you have no idea? You don't need to be. One thing that comes to mind for me when I was in grade 8 or 9, when to take your kid to work day, my mom's a teacher. She worked at a high school that had a fashion beauty program,

and they learned to cut hair. And so one of the top students in the class cut my hair and completely fucked me up. I looked horrible, and all the kids at school made fun of me the next day. i just thought like why did i trust a grade 11 kid to cut my hair who's been taking one class there's probably only one unit on haircutting why did i let this happen um so anyway what's the time when you put like way too much trust in someone i think about that every day when i'm driving you don't have to be in a wheelchair for that to be the truth. Like, if you're whipping through an intersection, say it's like a big street and, you know, both sides are like you can go 50 miles an hour, you know? You just, like, trust that they're going to stop at that light. You know what I mean?

Yeah. And you whip through. And if they don't, you're fucking dead. Yeah, but they stop. They always that light you know what i mean yeah and you whip through and if they don't you're fucking dead yeah but they stop they always stop i know i know i i actually i i want to i was trying to think of a way to make a video about this you could make the argument that the red light green light system is like the most uh like it's humankind's greatest collaborative effort. I mean, there are murderers and rapists that stop at red lights, that stop at stop signs. Well, like I got a yield. You have the right of way.

I'm going to go. I'm not going to rape someone, but they'll follow the rules because otherwise it's like, well, then society falls apart. Crazy. because otherwise it's like, well, then society falls apart. I had a buddy who, I used to live with him when we lived in Boston, and he just like, he did not care about yellow lights, red lights. That person is an anarchist. Not as a driver, as a pedestrian or as a bike. One time we got drunk and then we decided to city bike or whatever they were called in Boston to Fenway. We're like, let's go catch

the game. He didn't hit the brakes once. We lived in the south end of the time. Not far, but not right near Fenway either. So it was probably a 20 minute, 15 minute bike ride and he didn't stop a single light and

he would go through everyone and go and he would wave his hand like that like you can't see me and i was like dude you have to chill and he goes they're gonna stop every time and they did they he was right yeah yeah it's kind of one of those things where like it's like the pullout method like it works until it doesn't right and when it doesn't you're in a lot of trouble dude i saw a rocket on a city bike today in her like work gear and it just threw me for such a loop she had on like a dress like kind of like a short skirt dress and like her work bag and had like a pulled back hair and a bun like all like all business and shit but just wobbling around on her city bike. And I was like, like hot chicks like that ride city bikes?

I feel like you shouldn't be doing that. I don't know. I feel like you should have somebody paying for your Uber or some shit like that. She was too hot to be on a city bike. But as far as trusting, I mean, once you find like your barber or your stylist you know you stick with them because you do trust them but there's always that first time when you like walk into a barbershop whatever it's like yeah i want it this way or that way and then it's the moment of truth they might just fuck your shit up yeah like that grows back and it's yeah every time i every single time

i sit in the uh stylist you know it's been erica fleishman for 10 years now but anytime i sit i'm just like do whatever you want like honestly i'd rather do you do what you want because i don't know what i want i'd rather see you do something yeah you're the you're the pro yeah i mean i i had that uh botched injection when i was younger they let uh i'm pretty sure they let like a uh resident do my uh like steroid injection and he pierced my fucking spinal cord and i you know laid there and i remember seeing the the surgeon's feet and he was like touching my back and explaining what was going to happen and then his feet left and another pair of feet came in and they did the injection and i remember being like that's weird

but like okay the you know they know what they're doing. And like an hour later, brain fluid was leaking out of my spine. And I didn't think to be like, wait, wait, wait, how come? It's very strange. That's a weird psychology thing. I feel like if you are – this happens – you wouldn't know this, but I think a lot of people when they get massages are very hesitant to be like don't do it that way like change this do that yeah they'll just let you like grind it or hurt it or whatever or you let them cut your hair however you want when

you're in that position of like they have the power or they're the expert or whatever i think most humans just like shut down yeah whatever happens whatever i might die but okay but even like letting uh you know a surgeon operate on you it's like i don't know you got the fucking thing on the wall and said you went to school i hope you know what you're talking about but i might be fucking dead the fact that people learn how to do that shit is nuts some of these things that they can do in surgeries you know yeah like how do they figure out how to, like, we're going to give you a hip replacement. We're going to fucking take your bones out, put these rods in, and it's going to work perfectly. They fucked up a lot of corpses.

Yeah. I guess that's what you do, right? And then it's just like, I've done the real thing on these before. Yeah, no, I've fucked this up 10,000 times. We group cremated them. It's fine. I remember when I had E. coli and they were trying to give me IV and it was like a teaching

hospital or some shit like that and it was the same kind of deal where they were just the woman could not find my vein. That's what happened to me recently. They were literally laughing about it. And I was like 7 years old trying my god damn damn just to not shit my pants. And they were literally laughing.

I was like, it's Christmas. I'm just like, cheeks clenched. Like, my parents aren't there. That happened to me recently, though. They couldn't get my vein. And then they were like, we're going to call in this woman, like, always hits her vein. And I was like, why aren't you like her? It's like Harry Stamper.

It's like, I guess you're a shitty nurse. Yeah. Like, you're bad at doing IVs, and she's good at it. But you all should know how to fucking hit the vein. I know literal crackheads who are better at finding a vein than you. Yeah. That's what they should call in. They can find that shit in my fucking toe, dude.

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you're a Birkenstock guy with socks oh my god what is happening? I'm like, man, shut up. I just talked about it. I was like, I made the switch. You're like, I'm getting laid. I can't wear them without socks.

I feel too slutty with my heels out. I don't like not wearing socks. Really? But I also don't like, I can't. But the whole cuteness is your ankle in those things i also i can't wear uh well high socks how high are your socks fidelberg dresses like in my mind i have like a dream five-year-old child that i just dress like just dress them up like literally i. Like literally, I'm like, oh, like railroad pants. My dream five-year-old would wear those.

Have you seen him modeling in Italy? The red shirts? I mean, he's... Is that for real? I didn't know if that was a joke or not. No, that is very real. Gucci selling that exact thing for like $800, $1,000, whatever it was. He's been flown out to Italy twice in the past couple months to model.

He's a male model. He's a male model. It's crazy. Final version of a male model. I leave in final version. Of course that's what happens. It's crazy. Times are crazy.

How are you? I'm good. Good? I like the dress. I made it. You made it? What do you think about it? I like it.

First of all, I thought these matched and they don't. I realized that on the train this morning but i was like fuck yeah it's like my dream i went to africa and i found these ladies who make dresses and i was like hey if i sketch something on a piece of paper and i leave it with you can you make them and then they made them that's sick that's awesome every like couple months i was like can i have can i have another dress yeah yeah you went so like i'm throwing away my money and it's gonna get like my card is gonna get stolen and that's it and then the dresses show up yeah i'm so happy i got i got i think i think my car got stolen and i just haven't fixed it and i don't think i'm going to yeah my card got stolen this summer and then it was like pizza hut pizza hut pizza hut chipotle pizza hut pizza hut what did you say by the way it was me yeah probably i actually was like it's one of those assholes

chipotle pizza sounds like johnny's been running the bill john said to me something what'd you say you were like somebody just called me about like uh a charge for like a science signing a child up for football camp and i don't know what that was about and then like someone else called about another thing they called and they were like hey dominic's check bounce or dominic's payment bounced and i said i don't well they said is this john and i said yes i said it's we're from blah blah blah football university uh dominic's check bounce and i was like oh i'm sorry i i thought you said it was John. That's not me. We did say John.

John Feidelberg? And I was like, well, that's me, but I don't know what Dom is saying. I'm not sending a kid to football camp. Eventually he's like, I'm pretty sure my identity is being stolen. I think I can connect the dots on this one. Do you remember when Dave's identity was stolen? Do you remember that, Summer?

Do you remember that? It was at a citizen's bank. Yes. Yeah, what happened there? It was very random. The large black man stole his identity. Really? You don't remember that? Was that a citizen's bank? Yes. Yeah. What happened there? It was very random. The large black man stole his identity. Really? You don't remember this?

No. I do remember that, no. And I think at the time, the Barstool Bank account was connected to Dave's. Still connected. I didn't get to it in time. The Barstool Bank account was connected to Dave's. So then it created this whole kerfuffle of we couldn't get into the Barstool Bank account. Dave's identity was stolen. Sounds about right. right dude what a great guy to steal 100% his like

first of all a ton of money but everything's all mixed up you would never know like you could you could you could you know when people say like you just shave like pennies off the top you could shave 10 grand a day off the top Dave wouldn't notice because I don't know I must have had a bad day at the track I thought you were talking about when, I think it was Jay Hammy still had it, was still using his card. Yes, the best. And he couldn't stop her, right? You were on the phone. Wasn't this on Varsity Radio?

You were on the phone, and they were like, we can't stop that. We have to cancel the card, and he would have lost his points. And he's like, never mind. That man will do anything to keep those points. We did a two-hour radio show on the phone with American Express. On hold. We were on hold, and then they would come back, and we would keep talking.

And yeah, it was like, but he had to explain. He was like, I have an ex-girlfriend who's still using my card. And they were like, that's your problem. Like, we can't stop that. That was like, in the beginning, for some, Peter Chernin was on the board of American Express. And for some reason, like, we were tagged into his account. And we were, I put everything on the Amex card. And he would be like, hey, Mrs. Chernin went to the Bergdorf's today, like, Barney's, and couldn't buy anything.

Like, can you pay down the parcel card? I was like, oh. And then Dave, I think, could quit tomorrow and just live off the points for the rest of his life. He'll also never spend the points. I think he's going to, like, die and have the most points. He will absolutely. The inheritance, all the money will be gone from gambling and whatever. It'll all be Amex points.

He'll be, like, homeless on the street and they'll be like, you have millions in points. He's like, no, no. I'm begging for change. He loves those points um so how's life it's good are you is there uh i mean so you went on your kind of like find yourself journey in africa yeah i went to africa then i took a job um africa is amazing you got to go to africa i think you said to me oh i sent you the picture actually we were talking about gorillas just recently uh it's crazy was that awesome it was awesome yeah the people it's really cool rwanda was amazing i loved rwanda did you go with the intent of like kind of going on one of these spiritual find yourself things or was it just like i want to go to africa i just had always wanted to

go i was like i just want to go like i didn't know that i was gonna find the time to do it i don't know i don't think so. All I ask is, sometimes I feel like if you go with the intent of doing that. It puts so much pressure. Yeah. And then you're like, I did find myself. It's like, did you really, though? I came back the same person.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you want to come back saying you're like, change. I have the same issues. Yeah, right, right, right. No, but I loved it. That's the other part of it, though, is like, I could go to Africa right now, and I could come back in two weeks. I'd still have the same issues. Yeah, right, right, right. No, but I loved it. It was cool. I was like, I could go to Africa right now and I could come back in two weeks. I'd still have the same fucking problems. Unless some other things

go to Africa. Go to my life to get better. Other people have to go to Africa. I need you to go to Africa, not me. You're going to Africa. You're going to Africa. I'm staying in New York.

So yeah, so it's funny it's so different i miss you guys what's different here um what's different um well i do think we need i think we do i think we need dave's the ceo yeah yeah i still think we need another person to to help him with it because it's just so much you know a a lot. It's a huge company. And when issues come up and shit, it's like, it's stuff that

he probably doesn't want to deal with and probably shouldn't have to deal with but who do you trust otherwise to do it? That's where I just think He's so actively involved though.

Yeah, he really is. Which I think is so cool. Yeah. He's also, I think he's more active than people realize too. I think he's super active. Like when,

you know, names come up, like he knows everybody and The funny thing about dave is you think dave's not paying attention then he's like right right on it so i think he's like on top of everything yeah yeah but also it's to a t to an extent of the stuff he cares about yeah yeah there's definitely a lot of third floor talk to the second floor anymore like what's up with what's up there i don't think we ever did no i mean i've always like i just have the people i call like a maybe a list of two or three people for everything yeah like i don't even know if this is your job but you can tell me where to go yeah yeah but i don't know who it is and that was always kind of a thing but i think that's

that's gotten more and then you were you were leaving right around the Chicago, New York thing. How's that going? I think the drama of it settled down. I think it's just going to be two different things. Yeah. But in the beginning, it was very team this or team that. Whatever happened with the two radios? Oh, man.

The whole fucking radios. That was... Hashtag things I don't like i was trying to explain that like it's not radio it's youtube you know and if we wanted to line everything up properly like i'm leaving at rush hour and i'm missing every day with my kids so i was like we can just do it at the same time because it's YouTube. And like, you can go back and watch it. And there's like a little bit of overlap, but like 99% of YouTube is going to be on demand afterwards. And it ended up being like, we kind of settled in the middle.

But then Barstool Radio just ate the shit out of KFC Radio. It cannibalized like to the maximum. So we... So you came back to this yeah which was i mean i was also happy to have like a real like a genuine reason to be like well we don't have to work every single day on live radio now because that shit is a bear oh my gosh i got an email from like a radio company that was like would dave portnoy and kevin clancy want to reenact or you know re resurrect barstool radio seven days or five days a week, you know,

two hours. And I was like, I don't even know what the number would be. I literally said that I was like, do it. But I think Dave would, it would probably have to be like half a billion. It would have to be.

I literally said the same thing. And I was like, we also went down that road with your company. You offered us equity. And I just don't think that's going to cut it for 10 hours. Yeah. He, he wanted no part of that anymore uh i think it would have to be half a bill okay 100 um okay and then what's happening with you me a model male model are you still like doing the newport thing or no are you past that now you're like i do lake cuomo or

no i don't i don't I go to my parents house I just go to Westport I go I'm I got nothing going on John John is thriving this is by far the best part of your career he's

become an actor he's become a model like his the sketch show that he does with these guys is unbelievable do you love it do i love what acting yes don't you say otherwise no no i do i i i love doing out of order yeah i have a lot of fun doing out of order like the whole process of it i like this guy is like an

oscar director and this guy is an oscar actor all of a sudden it That's amazing. Like, it was nuts. Like, the first couple sketches. This is for sure. Has it gotten a sponsor? No. Sorry. Is that a real question? Should I kick you out right now? No, that's kind of a lie. There is...

You're working on it, right? We're working on it. Okay. Yeah, we'll see. It gets the... Got the automatic it's too risky tag

from sales. Yeah. Which drives me crazy. Before they watched it. Yeah. Yeah, it's too risky tag from sales yeah which drives me crazy before they watched it yeah yeah it's like they don't even know and i we watch other people far more uh risky and risque or whatever making money so i'm like i just refuse to believe that i also do give a little credit to like i mean we have been in this office in this room very room making swastika flags yeah so it definitely pushes the envelope a little bit there's some ground yeah they're like yeah they don't want to be associated with it yeah there's a nazi swastika hanging behind me so i get it um okay so that's you love that your male model yeah are you like working out a ton um yeah i mean like a ton your arms look like

he can't you can't do like he gets uncomfortable about this he's fucking jack he's in shape he's funnier than ever he's on stage he's in front of the camera he's modeling he's like i i would say this is definitively the peak of your career right now or the highest your career has been i think you're gonna keep going thank you you got the mood board and ralph lauren talking about we need more people to look like this what do you think about the personal social stuff i think it was uh like kind of inevitable like we needed to i don't know how it's gonna play out i i could see where it opens up a can of worms and some more of a headache than than a positive but like i think it's cool though to see if it can work yeah but it's also not for us like it's not i think it's

for the new people like i and i don't think it should be like it's not it's like an up-and-comer no one wants to like i don't want to advertise on my fucking instagram and they shouldn't sounds like they do but like florence no but like it's for the breeze and the crazy. I wish you had an agent to call you after these things and be like, shut the fuck up. Stop talking on your show. But I do think it's more like if I was a TikTok superstar right now and Barstool came to me and like one of the rules was like I can't sell myself. I'd be like, I'll just do all this on my own and keep all the money. Like there's definitely a lot that Barstool has to offer.

But the minute you would start cutting into like – I'd just be like, no, I'm not doing that. It would prevent you from ever being anything but an influencer. Right. So I think – I just get worried that like on the other side of things. Don't you think agents are going to be in people's ears being like, just leave Barstool andona and do this for you like on the side i think that there's nobody you're so lucky just sitting on the outside now is it's so hard to get the gasoline that barstool has yeah it's so hard really there's nothing yeah there's really no there's nothing but do you need it is i feel like you need it you think so because i feel like there are still just individuals who pop off and they get rich and it's like i used to think you need a machine behind you but i think you need a machine more

than ever you said something that i completely completely agreed with where you were like i think people are tired of influencers in the sense that like i like every time i see an influencer's ad i'm just like i don't like it I don't like it. I don't believe it. I don't care. I guess there are still so many people who do. But every time I see someone, I'm like, nope, no chance. See, I think it's just so much saturation. And think about how much media you get just from the clips on Barstool Main.

It actually is amazing. For me personally, when I worked at Microsoft and Yahoo, it was a a knockdown drag out fight every day to be featured on the homepage. And Barstool Main is the Barstool equivalent of that, which actually circulates so much stuff. I think that everything is so derivative now. That's actually what I really appreciate having left is just there it is very original here there's very few stuff that's just derivative or mimicry and so much of influence is just mimicry yeah yeah i don't think uh but i think we do here too though definitely i think there's ebbs and flows but i i think the the like the the drama and the crazy shit that people love is

the real stuff for sure but i'm thinking like i i know i remember we've always kind of looked at like oh how do we put a barstool spin on that how to put like like surviving barstool is just survivor but i think a lot of stuff here i don't i I mean, Barstool is for sure in its Mr. Beast era right now. Everything is just like a Mr. Beast stream that we're doing now. So that stuff is happening. But I think when it's like this person is fighting this person because they said this on radio, that is real.

You can't manufacture that. Yeah. Maybe you could. I don't know. There's no other groups. There's no other... everyone's an individual. There's like – Yeah, you're by yourself on an island and you're like,

I'll share my traffic with your – it's all very calculated. Who would you consider a competitor? No one. That's why I think it's so special. There really is no – I mean, I guess like McAfee, but he's still like an individual and like it's all individuals. McAfee's format hasn't changed really since he started. Yeah.

Yeah. Like it's bigger certainly. He's got better. Right. You know, he's in the mix but it's really the same format. Right. And then there's like Shannon Sharp's podcast got big and Stephen A. Smith's podcast got big,

but it would be like if all those guys had a house together. If they created like a flotilla. I think that's like what Colin Cowherd's trying to do. Is that the volume? Yeah. Yeah. I haven't heard about him in a while, though. Cowherd?

Yeah. I think I follow a few people who work at the volume. Is it working? Is it working? Or he does something there. I think it's kind of working. Yeah. I don't know.

I see it. I know it. That's working. I don't know. I see it. I know it. That's the other funny thing, too, is like if you, depending on who you follow and what your algorithm is. It's just an echo changer. Yeah. Like this person, their career ended a long time ago. And it's like, no, they're thriving. You just have not seen them.

Dude, that was, what was it? Who came out with it? This is fairly recently. Where it was like, maybe it was when radio was being talked about and numbers were being thrown around and it was the highest paid radio hosts in the country and jim rome was like really he was making like 20 million a year it was like more than that yeah jim rome because he was like it was like syndicated cbs like whatever he's still like on the air like 80 hours yeah well that that's the truth he never he like gets off to eat yeah yeah yeah but i also think that that's like like howard is

gonna make tons of money until he dies but then i don't think they unless it was gonna be like dave i don't think you're gonna i think it's dave or bust right that's what i mean like i don't think you're gonna i don't think it's gonna be like okay he's off the books so let's give the next guy 500 million dollars unless it was dave it's like rogan maybe it's yeah it's like a rogan it's dave maybe like a list of like four or five that could do it but i don't think they're in like a rush to pay somebody half a billion dollars anymore no i don't think so i also don't think their business model supports it i've never really understood how long they've lasted like the installs in the car yeah i guess that's really it right you get everybody on the road

but like people aren't buying cars anymore that was always a very clear when we did serious and like if you put out a podcast and you looked at your twitter and you could see like it garnered a reaction whatever good or bad serious you could go in there for two hours you walk out and it was like a tree falling the worst things on the planet it was kind of fun I'm getting all my shit off my chest

and it's just some truck driver and awful homeless and he's like more power brother all good that was but I do think Barstool, like, the reality TV show aspect of Barstool was at its best with Sirius because everybody had a show and it kept going.

Ah, it was so great. And the stories kept building. Sirius in the first office where everyone was screaming at it and that disgusting as, like, asbestos coming out of the wall. Like, everybody here is going to have cancer just from how badly Pete set up that office.

Do you know who our intern is? Who? 15-year-old Steve. No way. coming out of the wall like, everybody here is going to have cancer. Just from how badly Pete set up that office. Do you know who our intern is? Who? 15-year-old Steve. No way. Yeah, he's now 22-year-old 15-year-old Steve. Really? So he came in because he was there on Grudgement Day

with his parents and everything. 15-year-old Steve works here? Yeah. Well, he's an intern. There's like all these fresh crop of people with cameras. Yeah. Like mini Gaz's running around. It's terrifying, isn't it?'s terrifying i'm david i'm mini

gaz someone say that no i said that oh okay i was fired i'm gonna fucking mini gaz fell that tree before it gets poisonous um what are you gonna do surviving russell again are you gonna do more shows like that we we are not we didn't make the cut for this season. I think surviving Barstool will probably be a thing for several years to come. Yeah, so cool. I think it was a very big one. Do people still get mad at each other here and fight? It's not. I would say.

Well, the Barstool radio thing was like a fucking powder keg. And then since then, I think it's all calmed down. I would think it's more quiet, more under the river. Yeah. The duck under the river. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I think people still get mad at each other, but I don't think there's many. Eh, I don't know. There's also not the format to do it. Like, do people get mad at each other in Chicago? Or they just play dodgeball all day? They just play dodgeball all day. Yeah, there's not much to get mad about.

That was kind of the vibe was like,'re having fun and it's very friendly. And then there's people who want to kill each other here. Yeah. Angry New Yorkers. Yeah. But like so the – like Barstool Radio blew up and everybody started blaming everybody. And it's a lot to take the – to the hate yeah like you know fight every day at work so i think a lot of the people who were like gossipy and fighty like usually generally like move towards

that i think we're like i don't want to do this anymore yeah you know what i mean so i mean it takes a special breed of idiots to do it as long as we did it to just keep yelling and keep banging your head against the wall but we were also like we were trying to sell this thing when we did yeah if you if you're just working here and there's no more equity anymore and it's just like and now i'm like in a fight yeah i'm gonna scream these co-workers i gotta pick sides and the internet's mad at me like fuck that you know so i think it's calmed down a little bit but there's always you know there's always the little trauma you know yeah who the clicks are and who the you know that's always going to be here but um what was the time you were in a fight with us kfc radio not a fight no individual or as a whole well i was saying earlier

one of the questions we're gonna ask is what what was the time you were actually genuinely mad at both of us or individually or together well you guys would always be like egregious dicks to the sales people and like just rude and nasty but also very nice yeah i don't i don't i take no you well no it would be nice when we're talking it was schizophrenic yeah i i well i still say gumbridge was some of the stuff they like on the whole that they do but i it's also different when like you don't know anybody you know what i mean well when you're anonymous who cares and also you're like we're busting our asses off like we just can you just get a fucking sponsor on it like you weren't wrong we'd be mean on the microphone i'm always nice to like the person mean on the microphone that's what i'm talking about i would i would say as a whole like individual people i'm never

me but that was fuck they're the because you said they're anonymous people upstairs it's just like the third floor yeah i'm not like fucking do a person i i also like i would do that on purpose because i was like i want to react i feel like yeah i you know it's it was this place is very much the squeaky wheel. It was a very effective strategy. Never squeaked for a long fucking time, you know? And then eventually it was like,

we're squeaking. Yeah. You know? But then if we were to see them, I would, I'm sure they would look at me and be like, fuck you. Would I be like,

I don't even know if you're a salesperson. How you doing today? Like, what do you do here? Sales. Oh, shit. You're buying me.

I'm Kevin. I don't know how that works. It's a very strange thing to go through a company from like five people to 500 people because there was for the majority of my Barstool years, I could tell you I would know every person at Barstool. Yeah, same. And then it reached a point where you can't possibly. But it's like, are you supposed to even try?

Can you like... I know that was always the hard point. It was like COVID happened. We had 250 people. Everybody kind of went home. That to me was like the beginning of the different brands. Yeah, right. Everything got siloed off.

Everything kind of... Everybody became their own thing. Yeah. And I think that it's hard because it was like, do you keep focusing on bringing people together it was like do you do you keep focusing on bringing people together and like you should know this person and the reality is you guys are just going to call three people right yeah it doesn't matter there's 12 people here 400 if we're not selling something uh like i would watch like lou and matt matt uh matt brown

like bust their fucking ass and it's like they're trying and we couldn't sell it. And then when you're not watching and seeing it, it's like, I don't know, are you guys working as hard as those guys were? And like, and I'm sure they were, but we didn't witness it or we didn't know who they were and we didn't have any introductions or conversations. And then also sometimes we would get emails from them being,

and I'd be like the way they were talking to us being like. Yeah, fuck you. Yeah. But also I think Lou and Matt Brown did bust their ass. from them being and i'd be like the way they were talking to us being like yeah fuck you yeah but also i think lou and matt brown did bust their at like you felt it like you felt like everybody was in it together and then we brought a bunch of people who are like i don't listen to kfc radio yeah like when we would get an email being like you know does kfc radio still do voicemails i'd be like i'm gonna burn this place down you know or like they come with an idea that's like you know we want you to like uh do something for like football or whatever

it's like hey kevin could you have your award-winning listeners where it's like you have no fucking you've never listened to our show one yeah time yeah you're not even trying to fake it yeah so that's where i'm like there are always like the shining ones they're like really good sellers so who are like who would come down like the shining ones. They're like really good sellers. So who are like, who would come down and they introduce themselves and you're like, all right, this guy.

Yeah. If I know you, I feel like you're probably doing a good job. Totally. How, how do sales work? Like when I forget, we were,

we had a meeting recently with a salesperson and, and, and a brand. And I was like, oh, so that person. Like you're pitching. They were, they'd were talking to a customer.

They'd already become an advertiser. Okay. And then it was kind of like just talking it out how it was going to go. And then the thing ended and I was like, okay, so that person worked for X. And they're like, oh, no, no, no. They work for...

Somebody works for somebody who works for somebody. And I was like, well, why the fuck was I just talking to them then? And so there's just another... It's all middleman stuff? stuff yes so advertising is a middleman business that's crazy yeah that like that to me is i don't know i've never been a salesperson so i i don't know it's so frustrating if you are a salesperson because you to get the clothes you got to talk to this person and then you gotta check that yeah i mean but then i feel it's the same way when they're coming here with when they're talking to people who like don't know the show

yeah it's like well does that show ever represented if i can talk to you rather than someone who's like well you know what's funny is like as soon as as soon as our uh our non-compete was done draft kings and dave got the deal done in like a week or whatever right you know what i mean like it was like yeah you're the boss is gonna talk to the boss and it's going to be done. It's a better – and that's how we did business so much before. Barstool's a $300 million business. Like it's a big business. But like when you were talking to the brand directly, like you knew what the brand wanted. They knew what you were going to do.

They knew who we were, what we were going to do. And what you were capable of. And it was like super easy. The good and the bad. And then you get like a bunch of agencies. You get all the middlemen who everybody's worried about their job and their skin so then they're like that's what everyone's that's what's tough for a salesperson and for talent yeah everyone's job and i don't even fault them for this like everyone's job it feels like once you get into a corporate world and which is what we are definitively in it feels

like their job is to not lose their job 100 and then it's like well just don't get fired yeah it is but like we're not gonna fucking do anything yeah if you're scared that person if your job is to make sure we don't get in trouble don't advertise every time you but every time we run something by you they're gonna go well there's like a one percent chance that person's gonna get upset yeah you can't run it and it's like you said you have said no to every single idea we have brought to the table and those are the brands that don't actually like break you have to take risks look at all the brands yeah parcels put on the map like raising canes you know what i mean like everybody in the drive-thru handing out chicken like that's amazing it's it

was always the brands who were i can remember us working with a cpg or no QSR fast food restaurant we don't know what any of those mean consumer packaged goods or like quick serve restaurant okay so this was like our first quick serve restaurant and you all liked it you you all ate we ate there for like two years when I was here and anyways long story short something came up it was like an October like Barstool's month of doom where like people are angry in October. It's an election cycle. Everybody comes out on Barstool sucks. And the CEO, who was an egg on Twitter, had six DMs, I remember.

And the agency people were just like, this is unconscionable. It's like six people. It's an audience. And I was like, six people? Your I was like six people your CEO's an egg on Twitter yeah that's

people are crazy that way yeah or like I was laughing the other day had this memory where um do you remember

when Call Her Daddy was new and Alex and Sophia went bananas on Blade do you remember this no okay so Alex and Sophia

wanted a free ride to the Hamptons, and Blade had like a strict no free ride policy. And Alex Cooper just went fucking bananas, and like the daddy gang is shutting down Blade. And I remember I knew one of the guys who

worked there, and he was just like, make it stop! And I was like, you don't make the internet stop. You got to like run with it and you got to figure out how to twist it to help you. Yeah, like you either got to, like you made your bed, sleep in it, or you don't make a bed like that again. Yeah. You don't make the bed or when you're in it, you like free ride for everybody in the

gang. Exactly. Exactly. Or something. So that was probably our biggest career misstep. With the daddy gang. When Alex and Sophia first came

and I think I don't know if it was the image but it had at least been posed to us. Like hey you guys should work with them. Did you dismiss them? Yeah. The segment of things you should work with them. Oh, did you dismiss them? Yeah. They were like, You should be in the segment of things you should be mad about.

It was like, they're the female KFC radio. And we were kind of like, I don't know about that. It was also at the time that they came in so hot and they were naming names about players that we had relationships with. Oh, you didn't like that. You didn't like that. All the girls that we had relationships with oh you know all the girls that we you know we're working with already we're getting you know territorial so we were kind of like i i think we should you know steer clear of it and now you're like damn it i mean to be fair they were never gonna like it was never gonna be like so you know they would have they would have been like no yeah but i also have no regret about that

like when they came in it was definitely like that's not a person i want to work with yeah the vibe was that was a different vibe yeah it was a crazy they they definitely like proved people wrong or whatever but in the beginning it was not like let's link up with them yeah because everybody else at barstool would have been like fuck you guys yeah oh that's interesting the long does that dynamic exist here you think what do you mean with with like your people would be like if you went to oh yeah oh yeah in the beginning like yeah yeah i that and that's why i still to this day like i was wrong because they made like a bajillion dollars but the way they always handled barstool was kind of what always worried me about.

Do you feel like you have to represent talent outside of your, like, do you speak for, do you know what I mean? Like, like, like do you have to move in a block? No,

no. But like, I think, you know, you know, like, Oh, if I associate with this person,

like that person is going to be upset about it or, you know, stuff like that. I don't, I don't think there's anyone here. I i said yes that just because it's explicitly been said to me before by someone who does not work here anymore like if you work with a person i'll never kill i'll never talk to you again um so i just said yes because there is that one very specific instance but no i i think here now like i don't think there's anyone i would work with that i don't think other people would not want me to work with okay like i think i i i feel no pressure to move you can mix it up yeah but i'm sure there's other people who don't feel that way i yeah probably like when you're like

seniors you're like the old dogs. Old dogs. Old dogs. Today is the fucking seven year anniversary of the rigged tweet. That's crazy. That's new barstool in my mind. That's really new. This August will be 15 years for me. That's like a fucking career.

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Do not claim to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease and have not been evaluated or approved by the FDA. Probably to – I probably was – I put too much of my life out there. I think the rest of my life will be a little more private. More inward. Yeah. Yeah. I was very just like – because life was so good. So it was just like I just want to talk about everything and share my whole – Well, it was so carefree too.

There was no consequence for it. And you never even thought about potential like i never even said to myself hey maybe problems will arise one day down the road so don't do this now it was just like everything's gonna be good everything no filter yeah i was thinking about that too because sorry because once you put that out there you can never yeah yeah i was thinking about that i was like gosh it was just all gas no no brakes, like truly everywhere around here. And that's hard because then you're like, oh, shit, this is what it gets you. I should have hit the brakes.

Yeah. We had some turns where I should have hit the brakes and I was. What about you? How long have you been here? 14 years. I'm turning 36. I started when I was 21. But I was.

No, I started when I was 22, so probably 14 years. Oh, my God. And what's the biggest thing you learned? I can't get over your muscles. Like, how much? Did you see him at the combine? No, I'm sorry. He put up 135, 45 times.

42. Oh, I actually did see this. But, like, how? Are you spending hours in the gym? No. Like, I might go to the gym. That's just rude. But he goes every single day.

I go to the gym, like, five to seven hours a week that's a lot yeah you said that like i go like one i go like he did this shit it was like it was a fake it was like it was a fake inflatable jesus fights i don't think that's me oh who's that will who is that the the bar was flying fightsights' dad has the Fights' dad is like when I think of an apple body type just like muscles

like spinach I say they're like the Feidelbergs were like you know potato farmers they were just they're just made of stone they're statues

it's crazy look here he is I mean it was like the easiest thing I've ever seen happen and he's wearing that like doofy little fashion hat like this is why

Ralph Lauren loves him this is our KFC era. We finally got KFC to sponsor us and we just whored ourselves out. Every day was a hat or a shirt or a towel or this or that. Oh my God, fights. Okay, sorry. The, what was the question? What have you learned? Like what's your.

What have I learned like what's your what have i learned or realized realized uh realized i would say i've realized that um i actually you know i guess kind of with the caller daddy stuff like don't do something you don't want to do just because you think it might work. Yeah. Like, because the, like if Call Her Daddy, if none of this was ever like a real thing, but like, let's say we did link up,

I'd be fucking miserable right now. Yeah. Like I would. Just do what you want to do. I'd be fucking miserable. Because like, I'm sure I'd be much more popular. I'm sure. You'd be like, hey, Alex Earl.

Yeah. Time to record. Right. If you do something you don't want to do because you think it might work. It sucks. I'm sure I'd be much more popular. I'm sure. You'd be like, hey, Alex Earl. Time to record. If you do something you don't want to do because you think it might work. It sucks. It might work. And that's the worst case scenario. That's the scariest thing of all. It's like, fuck, this is too big and I have to keep doing it now.

What have you learned? From Barstool? Yeah. I think a lot one is that like you I think you're right I agree with you like you gotta own what you do you gotta stick with it like you can't

make everybody happy and there are so many times too where I think that like there's just ebbs and flows to what we do the world we work in we're like okay this doesn't really work right now yeah but if i drastically change then i have to drastically change again in three years yeah so like just be able to tread water yeah until you're like be true to who you are and like what you have because it really is corny with the internet but like stuff that doesn't work that was like a failure like five

years later worked you know what i mean so it's like that corny uh there's no such thing yeah it's also like we we spent some we were just driving all over the road that was like facebook wants this do this youtube wants that do that you know and even that's i think that's hard for it's easier for people in my shoes like business people of like just go with the money yeah change that you're like remember when when that facebook stuff really started and it was like kind of when you started doing one minute man or i don't know if it was called one minute time but you were doing the t-shirt room and uh and like we didn't change as much but other brands like i didn't like fox fire like every writer yeah it was like they were all gone all the writers went away and then it was

then it was like we want the written word but and it was like oh were all gone. Everything was, all the writers went away. And then it was. Then it was like, we want the written word. And it was like, oh yeah, all those numbers were fake. Yeah, then we just changed our algorithm and now you have a fraction of your views. You're fucked. Do you still like doing Minuteman? Yeah, yeah, yeah, one Minuteman. I like that.

I think that. It's a really good format. I have to say, just like not being in this world. The short form, it's good for like popular, it's good for the entertainment. I don't know if it's good for business. It's very short. It's good for like popular it's good for the entertainment I don't know if it's good for business it's very short

it's good for a consumer yes yes it's good for the consumer I like the amount of people who tell me like this is how I stay

in touch with things I have a kid who's like 15 and I know about this because you talk about it I can talk to my kids because of Kevin Clancy but like

it drives me a little crazy sometimes where it's like the numbers are astronomical. But it's like you get an eight-second ad read. Yeah, it doesn't add up too much. Yeah, you can't make your money. Why did the Olympic Committee not have Caitlin Clark? They said they were worried about her fan base being angry that she was going to be on the team but not get a lot of minutes because there's so many veteran big established so they i think that's crazy it would have happened

probably but like we're now making up hypothetical situations about how her fan base might react okay got it so we're gonna keep you on and she was classy she's always been classy she's never said shit about anything i actually feel bad for her because like she's never said anything to even rile up her side or like she just keeps on playing she's even keel yeah she's i mean she's probably going home freaking out and smashing things but in front of the in public she's just like you know doing her thing she's great but we were talking about this earlier it's kind of funny that like that's the reason her fan base is like like weird it has nothing to do with the basketball nothing at all she's probably like and she never she never even she's not like out there on the internet being like clark gang like everybody you know what i mean she just

happens to have a jillion followers and now they're the reason because she's really good at basketball but remember like we i we likened it to kind of us back in the day where it was just like happens to have a jillion followers, and now they're the reason why she's on the internet. Because she's really good at basketball. But remember, we likened it to kind of us back in the day, where it was just like, we'd have an argument with somebody, and then maybe it would affect sales, and we would be here thinking, can the fans stop tweeting that this person's a cunt? Please. Make it stop.

Just please, we can handle this. We can smooth this over. just please stop for a second you're you're proving them right you're saying everything that our haters just happy to caitlin clark now oh my god i had this person come to my to the my new office and um first of all i made a really bad fashion choice i chose this skirt that i realized like when i got home at the end of the day was entirely see-through just like a terrible like a tool skirt it was disgustingly see-through and I don't have the thighs anymore for like a see-through skirt so it wasn't good and this woman is involved with the WNBA and you know was she was kind of complaining about like what's happening with it and you're

reading this a little bit about the players where they're like oh like there's paparazzi outside the bus and i'm like the fact that i open up the fucking barstool sports newsletter and angel race is number one and caitlin clark is the second blog like this is what women's sports have been waiting for what are you talking about and she was like oh i just i just don't like the way that angel reese talks and i was like she's dennis rodman like let her go you need a villain and a hero you need the whole thing it's so funny i think everyone's just trying to be so virtuous yeah they they it's so silly they got what they wanted i'm like this is so great this is so great people should be so mad online. You know you're winning.

Right. What do you think is the worst thing Barstool did? Was there ever a move where you were like, I am categorically against this and Dave made the call or whatever? No.

I think Barstool Gold was just so much work. That was also, I remember in the moment with that, Dave wouldn't do it. Dave was like, I don't agree with this. I was like, we have to do it. Yeah. Right. So Dave was like, I don't agree with this. Yeah.

So we have to do it. Right. So it just ended up being us and PMT, I think. And then maybe eventually some other people got. And it was like Brian Fitzsimmons, like doing tours. It just sucked. Like it's. But you know what?

It was it was always just extra. Like it was like you. Nothing is changing for you guys. And if you are a diehard fan, you get another podcast. You get another podcast. But for you all. It took on this perception of like for you guys. And if you are a diehard fan, you get another podcast. You get another podcast. But for you all. But it just took on this perception of like, you know. It was wrong.

To like sticking to what you know and doing things you believe in. You know, one is like, I don't know that we had a choice because we didn't know that gambling was going to come along. And we thought a media company was going to buy us. And all the media companies wanted subscribers. So like the New York Times bought The Athletic because The Athletic has a bunch of subscribers. And we had people who bought t-shirts that we never sent the t-shirts to. And we had certainly another email. The black card or whatever.

So I don't know that it was wrong that we did it. But we did it. It didn't work. It was just more work for you all, which it actually— You know what the problem was? I realized it the other day. I was thinking about it. It didn't work. It was just more work for you all, which it actually – You know what the problem was? I realized it the other day. I was thinking about it. Whether one person signed up for gold or 100,000 people signed up for gold, it was the same amount of work for us.

Yes. If we were getting – I think there was a bonus structure, but so few people did it that it was never really worth it. It just didn't matter. It just didn't work. But the work did not scale accordingly. Totally. the work did not scale accordingly so it was like this extra podcast it might you know like we you know we would be shown the numbers and like you might make a hundred thousand dollar bonus this year you're like there's zero chance you're gonna make like a thousand dollar bonus this year but

that podcast extra whatever it's kind of like one of those things so where you're like it's binary like it's either if everything went behind the paywall barstool would have the best paywall business in the history of paywall businesses. But some of it's sort of kind of sometimes. Yeah. You get a t-shirt of them on. Not enough that you – yeah. What did you think when the Barstool Beast jacket was going on and stuff like that?

Oh, that was bad. Yeah. That was a hard time for me. That was – I started to write the book it during that time that was a hard i would say two years like we okay one we had the pandemic so everybody was home and then we were here i still i i did feel like we started work like right yeah we did we actually never left fema or whatever like some government body that i'm not supposed to say that. But it was the Penn acquisition was looming and Penn had a lot of requirements

about how I was supposed to manage the company and what we're supposed to do every day. You needed HR. Hey, you need a COO and you need this job and you need a real head of HR. It's kind of like it's any startup. Eighty eight percent of startups that get acquired fail. And like we were clearly in the eighty eight percent.

But it also was this time of like then. So we brought in all these people who then wanted to make their own mark. Totally came from normal companies where you do things like that. And it was like impossible to get my hands around all of it so you just like it flies by your inbox and then you're like oh fuck what did we just do yeah yeah that was a good example of like like i would see enrique and be like what's up man you're you're the best i think the barstool beast jack is the worst thing i've ever seen like you know what know what I mean? But that's what Barstool is. I'm categorically against this for what our company represents. But I also understand that you are trying to leave your mark and do your thing.

You're trying to do your thing. Get your bonus and your raise or whatever. Totally. And I think it's hard because, look, the other thing is there were so many. I mean, we ballooned to like 400 and something people, 420 people. So, and a lot of them were new and just didn't we were so in the mud and everyone was in that office together and you were obviously predated me for a long time like you when you brought in the newer people and they didn't

really get it and they hadn't been through the history and they didn't know that you guys are screaming yell all the time and then it's fine like yeah then everyone gets sensitive and they're you know so it's just like that that was a tough also that was the beginning of a tough period that was when like i remember we would start hiring people and they'd get introduced where it was like this is so and so from bleach report they did great and i was like well that's the people we make fun of because they suck we don't like anything those people do and now we're gonna do it here exactly yeah so just like we were trying to be you know we're trying to get acquired we wanted to see through that acquisition and then it but it necessitated

barstool changing which is then when i think you saw people just disconnect yeah there was a moment once uh we were having like one of our all hands meetings and you let it off and you were like first thing i just want to say um we are now like 100 percent like fico compliant or some shit like that and it was like a big business achievement that you got all this shit in order but i could just see like the dead behind your eyes like we did it like now let's get to the content but like we are now compliant with like the government right you know wait i have to think about what it was because i made you know what i'm talking about i know exactly yeah it was like oh this probably sucked sarbanes oxley okay we were socks oh i'm right you and i remember that sarbanes oxley okay we were socks compliant and then i put out on linkedin i was like something like i made fun of us being sarbanes oxley compliant and people get upset the pen people called me and they were like

that has to be taken down immediately but you're right where it was like we did it guys the government likes our paperwork or whatever the fuck it was like oh yeah that was the time i i have a question about the book before i so with all that we're like this diet was brutal blah blah blah what like what is your motivation now like oh like i'm so motivated now like i i really did feel like after 2023 when we sold the company and then we bought it back for dave for a dollar it truly was like that there was nothing i was gonna do that was better than that yeah 2024 wasn't gonna kill it yeah yeah yeah sometimes you just know when a story is over and it's like it's pretty much as good i thought there was a moment where it was going to all be over,

and I was like, well, that feels like a fitting end. Same. That summer was shaky. That was a shaky summer. I remember taking a call that felt like succession-y, and I was in the office at a chiropractor, and I just remember thinking, this isn't how they make it look in movies.

I was sitting there in athletic shorts, no shirt on. I was like, okay, so I'll do this. They make it a lot prettier in Hollywood. My phone rang at 8 a.m. Dave called me at 8 a.m., and I said, who is dead? Or I am fired or something. It was a.m. Dave called me at 8 a.m. And I said, who is dead? Yeah, what happened? Or I am fired or something. Yeah, what happened?

It was a big one. Yeah, that was wild. But yeah, that was probably a good ride off into the sunset moment. You know, like I got here in 2016 and they were like, maybe this place will make $25 million in five years. I know, I remember like being like. Maybe we could get to 50 people. We never had anything in paperwork. But, you know, Dave was like, maybe one day we could sell this place for like $10 million.

We could all make some cash. Yeah, I guess so. So I was like maybe one day we could sell this place for like 10 million dollars we could all make some cash yeah so i was like all right and then i also didn't want to stay i was so cost i was so happy the company was back with dave i i really did feel like for me personally it was like a full circle yeah and that it was someone would champion the creative like in the people like it which is really the lifeblood of this place. And then I was also like, then we had to cut so much cost because so much cost had gotten buried in our P&L because they wanted to make the revenue. And then I was just like, God, like I, you know, I'm like, I'm not really, we built the thing, you know,

like we built the thing. And I really wanted to see if I could do it again. Like there'll never be another Barstool. I'll never do this again. But I was getting approached to like, oh, do you want to work in sports betting? And I was like, absolutely not. And do you want to work in sports? And I was like, for nobody else.

And then I was like, you know what? Like, I want to go learn a new thing. Yeah. And so I actually I'm super motivated by it. I'm excited about it. This show is sponsored by BetterHelp when life goes so fast

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It's home. It's a store. It's tabletop. It's cookware. And I want to make a content company, and I want to tell stories around design and entertaining. So it's the polar opposite of these assholes that's like when you you know you break up with somebody and you're like i'm going for the polar opposite i need to make some changes it's like the taylor swift dating do you know what i mean

you're like artsy fartsy musician and then tyler kelsey travis kelsey the other thing that was funny so i had this like i was doing this interview with someone at the new york times and naturally they're like so bitchy and they're like just basically trying to get me to say that Dave sucks and this was a misogyny. And I'm out of shape in answering like, do you remember in Pretty Woman when, you know, she gets all dressed up, she's at the polo race and Stucky comes up and is like, hey, you want to like get with me after? And she's like, and then she goes home to Richard Gere and she's's like but i was in my fancy clothes and i didn't know how to answer the question i felt like that you're not supposed to be doing this right here i forgot how to answer that question yeah but um why was i saying that oh so the lady was like well what's different i'm like the bathrooms are so clean there's soap everywhere I went to the bathroom here. It's still the same thing of soap

from when I left. Nobody washes their hands in this place. That's all the chicks. I know. Us guys, we're clearing the sherry poo everywhere. Whatever it's called. We've been in this office for how long?

This is like 2020. Right before 2020. It feels longer to me. I guess it's only four or five years four years or whatever it's literally the same thing back me up do you know that little blue bottle of hawaiian whatever whatever oh no i go to the one over there which one do you go to none of them are good yeah of them are good Let me tell you that much So wait I think But I was asking before Is there anything

Do you know that It's literally the same bottle of soap So there was never a moment Where you were like Oh Varsagold You said was the one Right

Oh Varsagold But everybody was kind of In agreeance That it sucked It was always that way here Was there something Where it was like Dave and us

Were like We're gonna do this And you were like no Or you wanted us to do something and we didn't no because i think sometimes that like we made our bones by being like the renegade pirate ship but i'm like if we played a little bit of ball maybe we would have been a billion dollar company like maybe some of the gambling shit wouldn't have been as hard if we weren't such assholes all the time or was there ever like a you know maybe we should just be like cordial to this person or this entity or whatever no i i actually think like it was such a miracle and it worked yeah the way period and i wouldn't have changed

anything dr strange like there's one one variation out of like 14 billion where this we like slipped through this black hole of legitimacy that should never have ever happened. Well, if gambling didn't get legalized, what was the play? We were just going to keep trying to grind out advertising and stuff? I think what would have happened is kind of what happened during the pen time, which is like could we have gone and got rights and could we have made broadcast? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like I think that probably would have been the path yeah or do we like vertically integrate like do we take a league like kind of rough and rowdy

on steroids sure i don't know though i do i think i really wouldn't have changed anything yeah it's the only way that it was so painful and so amazing and so fun and it was a rocky road like you'll never love anyone the way you love people that work here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you think, and I think it's weird because the, like it's all I've ever known. So it's almost like

I was born blind. Like when I hear the stories of these other startups that became massive places and they were like, it was crazy working there. And it was like, I don't think it was crazy.

I think this is normal. I don't know. This is like. This is what work life is like. It's like Sharshanq. He's red. Yes. And then when the music's over, he's just going to be like, Feidelberg's going to be in a halfway house.

I mean, I told you guys that the whole time. But they're like, I can see myself one day down the line reading the book of Barstool, whoever it is is going to write it. I do love your title. I remember you had a title

a long time ago that you said you were going to, you're like, I'm going to write a book one day about Barstool. It's called All Boys or Girls. Oh, Men Are the New Women.

Men Are the New Women. I actually, I think of you too when I think about that one. I really do they're so pitchy into a microphone it is

when they see you they smile it's a compliment they cry all the time I just I cried for I had like a breakdown the other day

I cried for 35 minutes straight to the point that I was like laughing and I was like I want this to stop but it won't like an ugly cry

like the heevy cry? It was tough. Very on point, you said that right now. Who cried to you the most? Oh, there's a lot of crying around here. Yeah? Yeah. Did I ever cry to you?

No. I don't think you cried. Kevin and I have had a bunch of cries. There's a lot of crying. Crying came out of nowhere here, and then you were just like, I always had like a sneak, I didn't want to seem soft, so I never put the tissues out but i was well yeah it was a weird role i feel like for for you did you ever feel i mean sometimes it was like

like uh team mom but then also it was like ceo yeah it was like a janitor yeah yeah uber driver therapist right right right like I don't know whatever it was and then and so the book um is is like about your journey or is it like more general for everybody no it's like a self-help book for work so a lot of it is like the stories of Barstool and it's like in one part it's like a love story to this job or the job i had here which was like you know we learned so it was like we learned so much in such a small amount of time and it was such an extreme workplace that i really wish i wrote did you you started writing i wish i had taken notes me too i'm like because i i do think – That was dumb. I do think a lot of us – You could write the Barstool book.

Yeah, but not even – I just wish I could like be like, oh, I have done like a negotiation like that before. I have been through the fire like that. Yeah. But I forget like everything. Yeah. I forgot everything. And I wish I wrote it all down because I could go back to it. I think I would also remember it more because I do think there's a handful of people here who have more to offer.

Like if anybody ever asked you, then a lot of people on the planet Earth. Yes. But it's like, if you can't remember, it's not worth it. You just can't remember. It also was so much. One sentence a day. I know, same.

I wish I did that. And I should start doing it right now too. Yeah, you should. Because then you'll think back like, you know, stuff jogs your memory or whatever. But yes, I started it, I don't know, two years ago. And it's not about, it's my opinion of work it's like how do you be great at work what does it mean to be great at great at work how do you

get over your ego how do you get over your insecurity how do you i'm gonna have to read this book i have a great kevin clancy part of it oh yeah yes in the quiet quitting section okay and in i hate quiet quitting i think it's just such bullshit but i was like and i i'm like i rarely say be like kevin clancy but in this case i'm just kidding but um i was talking about how you mailbag your blog yeah yeah you know it was quiet quitting it was essentially in your cube at whatever accounting firm that was. Deloitte, yeah. And that the 1% of people, it wasn't that Kevin was quiet quitting.

Kevin was just in the wrong job. They were also very loudly quitting. People just weren't hearing him. They were trying to quit and they were keeping me. I was like, what the fuck is this? Fire me already. But it was like Large, the same. Like Large was the same yeah yeah when you when you were writing the book did you know like at any time in writing it did you feel like maybe my time here is done no i yeah when

did you when did you know i we bought the company back for dave in august that was august if that didn't happen you were just full speed ahead? I could never have left. I would never have. Yeah, I guess now that I say that, it would have been weird if you just decided one day to quit. I could never have left.

I wouldn't have left. But that happened and then I'm writing the last section of the book, which is like, do you stay or go? Like, stay or leave? Great Dave Matthews song.

Remember when we went to that OAR concert? Program director, right? No, Dangerous Connect yeah program director right no dangerous connection nobody likes this song but me but whatever anyways so I was writing that section and I'm like you know you know like the cookie monster where I'm writing it and then I'm not paying attention to it it's like you should do things that scare you like go out don't be comfortable in your job blah blah and then I was like i'm we're never gonna be last year and he i'm i have such confidence in all of you so you had a direct moment where you were like like were you talking to somebody in your family did like did it come out in a conversation or was it just like in your own head i was just like feeling it and

i didn't want to stay too long i was really yeah that's that's in anything i feel like a tv show or anything anything it's like you just can't stay it sucks to stay too long yeah yeah but you don't want to leave you know meat on the bone but it's like i'd rather leave early than stay late yeah i was worried about that yeah so i like thought about that all the time because it wasn't fun during the pen time no and then we got it back and then i was like what you know it's not like we were gonna go build a new line of business well that was the thing it was like there was like this is what it's not like we were going to go build a new line of business. Well, that was the thing. It was like, there was not a need for that. It was like, this is what it's going to be. You don't need me.

That role anymore. Yeah. So then I was like, I got to get, you know. Yeah. Got to get the fuck out of here. All right. See, this party's over. No.

I just didn't want to stay. You know what? You would have been like, what the fuck is she doing? My best Nardini memory will always be at Red Lobster with Jesus and Miro in Times Square. We have to tell this story. Because it was just like so, like, she was pretty much brand new. And I went to her being like, these are the two funniest guys. And we were like, you guys pick, you know.

And I'm sure when it used to be steak houses and wine bars and shit, they were like, let's go to Times Square. We're going to fucking Red Lobster. We're getting Cheddar Bay Biscuits, you know. Keith, Nate, me, and Kevin. They were like, let's go to Times Square. We're going to fucking Red Lobster. We're getting Cheddar Bay biscuits, you know? Keith, Nate, me, and Kevin. No way. I still don't know why they were there.

It was legit like my sixth day of work. Yeah. I still don't know why those guys came, but I was like, okay, whatever. We go to Red Lobster. Like, we have to take up

the escalator. It's on the second floor. Yep. And we're at a corner table in the back. Yep. And then it, what's the deadliest catch was that drink that

disgusting oh my god it was terrible they gave us we ordered the like super sized version of yeah those those trashy drinks yeah like the signature red lobster drink and i my one of my greatest regrets is that i didn't save the glass. I think Nate did, obviously. It was just funny, though, because we were on the one-yard line with them. And I was like, wow, I think we got this done. And then they were like, and by the way, you can't sell any advertising. And I was like, well, okay. So we just went to Red Lobster for lunch.

That's all it was. And then they're like, and we're going to Vice. Those guys should have stayed on the internet, though. Which is just so – they should have stayed on the internet which is just so they should have stayed on the internet TV was not the move they're not even together anymore

but even beyond that TV wasn't the move for them I think they were very successful you just become a fake version of yourself yeah they should have just kept it real

and done the internet which is actually why I'm glad that all of our shows got cancelled yeah in a weird way it would have made us like Mick Barstool

yeah no it's better to be back on just the renegade side of things. Okay. I have a question about your one-on-ones. Yes. What if I were to negotiate with you one day? Okay.

And it's never going to happen now, obviously. But if I came in, I always thought about this. What if I came in and I used exactly what you had told us to do? Against you. What would you have done? Oh, I would be like, good job. And I'd probably give you what you want. We've got to be the worst negotiators at Barstool, right? Me and John?

You two? No, they're actually worse. Really? Yeah. Wow. I don't think I've ever negotiated. I was just going to say, we just would be like, maybe a little bit more? No, you guys actually do negotiate.

You did a good job. Did we? Yeah. I don't even remember negotiating. It wasn't like a negotiation. It was like I slid a piece of paper across the desk and you signed it, but you signed it beautifully. And you looked at it twice before you did. I know.

There were definitely times where I was like, I'm going to have an agent and a lawyer and a this and a that look over it. And then like a day later, I was like. Ah, fuck it. Dude, I remember I had my one time. I think it was probably not. It's not the contract I'm on right now. It might have been the last one where I like, I think I sent it to my dad's lawyer and he's like, I do real estate.

I can't help you. He's like, but yeah, it looks pretty boilerplate. I was like, great. Signed it. Signed, sealed, delivered. But i also think you had like faith that it would work out yeah yeah yeah you know the uh the one thing i always thought and i still to this day think is i feel like at barstool the veterans get penalized almost a little bit and the new shiny toy is the focus and the resources and money and stuff like that

and that was the only yeah that had to be irritating yeah i remember that i don't think it was you i it was at the old office i think it was dave but we were it was we were trying to do ksc radio on the road and he was like he's like you can't make like we get the door and we were like well that doesn't really make a lot of sense. And he was like, well, and I think it was either Kevin or me, someone put forth the argument that, well, Francis is touring, and he gets the money. He's like, well, yeah, but Francis was a comedian before Barstool.

And I was like, well, I haven't been anything but this. I gave you my whole life. So if I had known, I would have done comedy first. And then, you know, yeah. So that was always a little bit irritating. Do you still like doing the touring? No, we've kind of put it on hiatus. It was like.

It's a lot of work. It's so much. It's like you have to make pushing your tickets your like number one thing. And it was like our number like seven thing. Yeah. So we're like, and I would stress about that. And like, on stage was great. Everything else gave me anxiety.

I was going to say the stage was great. I loved the travel. I loved everything about it except pushing tickets. Yeah, pushing tickets. But that's like the name of the game. And every show we would go to, the people were great and like loved them. But like it was not jumping jumping to theaters and shit like that the way we wanted it to.

So it was like, I don't want to go to Pittsburgh for 200 people and this whole fucking thing that stresses me out. It's a lot of pressure to have to- I wish we were so early on live shows, but we would just do the Wilbur here and there. And if we had gone pedal to the metal in like 2015 20 or 2017 whenever that was by 2024 we would have had a fucking yeah but like now everybody is doing live and we're almost like white noise but we were like so ahead of it but we didn't we didn't really that the the sir you say in the circus reminds me of one of my one of my favorite

zooms when we had it was like we were trying to do like a Barstool comedy tour. And it was going to be us and Boy Dad and Anus and like a bunch. And we were on with a bunch of salespeople. I don't think you were on this one either. And someone spoke. It was like this whole thing. It was like you're going to do like 50 shows and this big like national tour, blah, blah, blah.

And someone, it wasn't us someone was like okay and how much do we get paid for it and i remember it was like a record scratch in the thing and then gaz just goes oh i don't know i just figured you kind of do it for the brand he's like it's been working for the last 20 years we just ran the same play again i was like dude this is what people do for a living as their main job and they're very wealthy from it and you want us to just throw it in for the brand that's actually so funny very very barstool oh but i'm happy you wrote the book thank you thanks for having me i think i'm happy it seems like you landed at a spot that you

i was wondering like how can you find a place that grips you the same way. Oh, nothing is going to grip me this way. No, but it's like good to have a job. It sounds like you have. What kind of design is it? Like the other tables? Like lighting and furniture. What kind of furniture?

Like beds and case goods and dressers and end tables. You should look at it. I want to look at it and I'm going to say something that I haven't looked at it yet. So maybe you already do it. But can you make me a promise if you don't? Don't do any epoxy tables. Epoxy tables. Okay.

You know those tables that everyone fucking has now? Where it's like two pieces of wood but there's blue down the middle where it's like, you know what I mean? No, we don't do that. Oh, thank God. They're fucking terrible Erica noted they're an abomination

they are everywhere has them and everywhere thinks they're the fucking they just like pour the yes they're the worst they're insufferable

everyone adds it they're like look at our cool place that table sucks I love you guys thank you for having me it's so good to see you uh nobody cares about your career and are you still hiding them around the city i like that idea i know it's fun yeah i hit

a bunch today cool where'd you hide well i tried to hide one at tyler o'day's office and tyler o'day was like they'll think i'm planting a bomb in here oh my god it's a book dude put this security thing it's bright yellow it's hard to miss I do like the color the color is nice I fought hard for that color do you have any

books on you by the way I'm mailing some here okay so I will get you one I would like one

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