KFC Radio - Jack Mac Defends the Alpha Males Ft. Dusty Slay - Full Episode
Episode Date: March 28, 2024Timecodes: 0:00 Start 02:08 How do people live with their phone buzzers on 06:48 Feits' PB&J With Raisin Brand and Whipped Cream Sandwich 22:39 Jackie is Going Solo to Mexico City 41:41 Ja...ck Mac on Girls Getting Punched in NYC 50:35 Jack Mac's take on Alpha Camp 01:03:55 Jack Mac's Tik Tok fame 01:22:42 John is on Jake Johnson's podcast "Here to Help" 01:24:52 Video Voicemails 01:42:16 Dusty Slay Interview ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ KFC: Order KFC’s NEW Chizza at a participating KFC location today! https://kfcshop.com/?utm_source=%25s&utm_medium=Content&utm_campaign=KFC_Radio&utm_content=%25ecid%21 https://bit.ly/KFC_Chizza Gametime: Download the Gametime app or go to https://gametime.co, enter your email, and redeem code KFC for $20 off your first purchase (terms apply). Netflix: NETFLIX | THE GENTLEMEN LIKE IT WHEN YOU WATCH. https://www.netflix.com/title/81437051You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/kfcr
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I don't understand how people exist with their phones on anymore.
Exist with their phones on anymore. Exist with their phones on.
I'm expecting a call
from my doctor because I have to
change my appointment. I was supposed to have an appointment Friday.
This is getting ridiculous.
It's a follow-up from last February.
Follow-up from last...
I just need to make sure I don't have whatever
H. pylori is anymore.
Wait, you're talking February 24 or February 23?
23.
Right.
We're now
past the full year yes i don't think you can say it's a follow-up anymore in a new year that's just
a new appointment i'm like that's what i talked to the guy i talked to a guy today and i was like
walter walter i gotta be honest with you brother i was like i think we're done here an appointment
in july or june and then it was going to be you guys moved it to November then you moved it to
January then you moved it to April and oh no whatever month it is now March and I was like
this time I had something come up I will not be able to make it on Friday so like I gotta change
it again and he was like all we got is August and I was like I sorry I was like you gotta
you gotta do something you have to talk to somebody and you have to call me back because I cannot do that.
That's insane to make me wait.
So I have to turn my phone off, do not disturb, to wait for this call.
And I have an absolute panic attack.
Oh, welcome to my life.
That's what you're talking about?
My phone is buzzing right now in my pocket.
I don't understand how people do it.
Well, I also think I know for myself.
I'll speak for myself. And I think maybe you might be on over here uh i have like full-blown ptsd from phone
from phone uh from people cyber attacking me with phones it's like like truly genuinely like i've
had a couple a couple toxic situations in my life where like i would get like hundreds of calls
and i if i close my and it would be at nighttime and i can hear my phone buzzing on my like desk
you know and that that cadence of the buzzing when i do hear that now i literally like it's like a
a fight or flight reaction and now i give you the you're in the middle of the day, I know nothing is wrong.
But if I hear that – I'm like – but I very rarely have it on Do Not Disturb because I – kids, who knows.
Now that I – and then now that I know it's off, I keep snapping looking at my phone.
Yeah.
It's 100 percent PD.
I have it from decades ago.
Decades ago.
It's 100% PDA. I have it from decades ago. Decades ago.
I remember one time I got in a fight, and I just had my girlfriend text me,
I'm just going to turbo call until you answer, you little bitch.
You got to respect.
Guess what?
I bet you picked up.
I bet you picked up. Because it's like, yo, I don't want that to happen.
I don't want that to happen.
I'm just going to turbo call i didn't
you little i think it's a phrase i don't i think she might have coined it she might it was long
enough ago that she might have i'm just gonna turbo call until you answer you little bitch i
mean that's like goddamn that that woman see there there goes i don't know i don't know what to do
let me go back to this doctor i I am – what's the right word?
I'll say flabbergasted.
I am flabbergasted that you are keeping up this charade.
What?
Of continuing – like it's over.
Just don't go to that doctor.
But I need to make sure I don't have this thing anymore.
Well, if it was that important, I think we would have – what if you had it? Oh, I'm pretty sure I still have it.
I took my antibiotics and they were like, this is going to kill all your acid reflux.
And I took the antibiotics for two weeks.
It was a nightmare.
They warned me beforehand.
They're like, this is going to kick the shit out of you.
Is this the dementia one?
No, no, no, no.
That's what I take to prevent the – this was an antibiotic that like it was just –
I was dragging ass for like
two weeks straight because i take like four four separate chunks of pills it was heavy duty
antibiotics i don't get when that i guess you got to do what you got to do but when the side effects
are worse than like the thing but the thing is cancer uh like h pylori i guess becomes cancerous
in your stomach or whatever so whatever i'm just trying to kill this h pylori thing and it fucking when i don't take my own purpose all in the
morning i still get fucking acid reflux so i'm pretty sure i still have this shit and i gotta
figure out how to get rid of it there also might be a chance that there is just simply
no medication and no plan of medicine on the planet earth that can stop your heartburn like because
of how you live you know what i mean yeah like doctors are gonna be like we can't stop this
right like unless you stop this we can't stop that okay right yeah no that makes sense which
that brings me to my second point okay uh i'm gonna leave you guys some sandwiches today oh
bro i i have learned my lesson i have learned my lesson.
I have learned my lesson with two things at Barstool.
One I've talked about recently.
I do not doubt Marty Mush ever anymore.
Marty Mush has done enough weird things that I have been the complete wrong voice on him.
I've been like, he's not going to be able to do any of this.
And he has proved me wrong a bunch of times. The other thing is I used to make fun
of John for his weird food
only to be proven delightfully
wrong every single time.
This is...
But that being said, we have to obviously acknowledge
this is full-blown white trash.
Oh, yeah.
Because you are
equal parts white trash and like lace curtain.
I'm –
Lace curtain is white trash.
Is it?
No.
Wait.
White trash.
Do not know that.
Well, I'm white trash.
But wait.
I thought lace curtain was not white trash.
No.
Lace curtain is like you're pretending to be.
Oh.
Oh.
See, yeah.
I'm so white trash.
I thought white – I'm so white trash.
I thought lace curtain was good.
No, lace curtain is like you're putting on air.
Got it.
I just seem like a higher class.
Well, you are lace curtain then.
Me?
At times.
Because deep down, John, you put whipped cream on sandwiches with cereal
and you're white trash.
Bro, bro, this is more – and I hate to use this word,
but this is more stoner behavior.
Like, I just get high and make concoctions.
Well, that's true.
But you know what?
Like, when I do that, people look at me different.
When you do that, everybody laughs.
Like, when I just put Hershey bars inside of tortillas, people go, what the fuck are you doing?
When John puts Raisin Bran Crunch in with whipped cream, everyone goes, oh, what a genius. I'm glad you said that because I would also acknowledge that I bought all these ingredients this morning.
So these are not the ingredients I typically work with.
Usually I'm working with some Boone Farms preserves, not some jelly.
See, this is what I mean This is Now all of a sudden The same man Who's gonna put
Raisin bran and whipped cream
Is gonna complain
That he has jelly
And not preserves
Correct
And I'm usually working with
I got white bread today
Usually I'm working with
Like a 12 grain
These are all
These are all a step up bro
For the type of sandwich
You're trying to make
You need
You need synthetic
Wonder bread You need Welch's grape I'm a little concerned That it's gonna be too bro for the type of sandwich you're trying to make you need you need synthetic wonder bread
you need welch's grape i'm a little concerned that it's going to be too um it's going to be too
like too white trash it's going to be too yeah you know because it's really the it's the it's
the melding of the two cultures that i think ah okay so it's a little high class a little low
class meeting in the middle taste the chemicals kind well, listen, as a guy who loves the taste of chemicals, I can tell you right now
this shit's going to be fire.
I also, they didn't have Raisin Bran Crunch, so it is just Raisin Bran.
But that's okay.
I think that's okay.
I think you need the flakes, not the clusters.
The clusters, I actually think, would be bad for a sandwich.
It would not fit the white bread very well.
So I think the flakes is clutchier.
You're pretty accurate with that.
Jackie, do you think we can
get some whole milk in here? Yep.
I think there's a ton of whole milk in the fridge if I'm not
mistaken.
That's a healthy dose of...
I feel like
you should do jelly on its own
slice. I usually do, but I don't have the table space right now.
Yeah, I'm typically a jelly on its own slicer for sure.
If I had – I had looked for plates earlier.
There were no plates, so now I'm using napkins here.
It's a whole thing.
Yeah, if I – look, if I was in the lab right now, don't worry about it.
I'm going jelly on its own slice for sure.
Okay, okay.
I do – Right now I'm like jelly on its own slice. Okay. Okay. I do.
Right now I'm like a war chef.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're asking me to paint with no paintbrushes here.
You're asking me.
I don't even have a canvas to work with.
Get the boys fed.
Get back in the fight.
Yes.
That's all this.
Bro, I saw a TikTok.
While you make this, I can tell the story.
I saw a TikTok or a video, whatever, on Instagram.
It was how a
mother of 11 starts her day let me tell you something this bitch is not a human she's not
a human she it was she was laying she she cracked about 30 eggs into one bowl and laid out probably
40 slices of bacon before making like a hundred sandwiches it's woman's a cartoon character. She really is. Thank you.
And I think some ketchup snuck in there.
They were making like ham sandwiches and I think they put ketchup on it.
Have you ever heard of that?
That's a white trash that even I don't know about.
Yeah, I was going to say,
I wouldn't say I've heard of it,
but I don't, I don't,
I'm not like no chance, never.
I mean, I guess it's like hot dogs, you know,
like ham, but I don't know.
If I have like a cold ham and cheese sandwich, I am not putting fucking ketchup on there.
It's a move.
But anyway.
It's mustard.
Hang on.
Let me.
Okay.
It is crazy to put ketchup on those sandwiches.
Jackie, are you white trash?
Let me focus on these whipped cream ones.
Am I white trash?
I don't think Jackie's white trash.
Do you?
I don't know.
I definitely have like trashy tendencies.
Yeah, like you're a trashy drunk and stuff like that, but you're not like...
I think I go against my family by being like the trash...
I think, yeah, I was going to say in your family, you're probably the black sheep, right?
Yeah, yeah.
What was that?
What are you just...
Did you open the box yet?
The box is open.
Oh, okay.
It looks like you opened the bag before you opened the box somehow.
Now, what interests me the most is I love a good concoction.
I've spent – right now my thing is – what do I eat?
I eat Rice Cap'n Charms is my thing right now.
Rice Cap'n Charms.
Rice Krispies, Cap'n Crunch, Lucky Charms.
Yes.
No, but I shouldn't say Lucky Charms.
I ordered – I had just bags of marshmallows.
I ordered just the marshmallows.
So I really get – you get a crunchy base with the Rice Krispies, a little bit of sweet crunch with the Cap'n Crunch, and then you load up with marshmallows.
So I really enjoy a good concoction.
Let me hit that first.
The problem is, though.
I'm blown.
It's not the problem.
What's interesting is that your mind, like, what made you go to Raisin Bran?
That's not like a, you know?
Just like in your field of vision?
I used to make my parfaits.
And I was out of yogurt.
And I was like, well, I got to use this Raisin Bran.
This fucking guy over here is talking about making his parfaits and then makes this.
Bro, I got a morning me and a night me.
They're different people.
Yeah, they're very different.
Bro, you are like, you are as bipolar as it gets without being diagnosed.
Like, I got to make my parfaits in the morning.
You're also, you're always talking about parfaits. He loves my parfaits in the morning You're also You're always talking about parfaits
He loves his parfaits
And then he hits the gym
And then he like puts on his cardigan
And his fancy shoes
And then he goes home at night
And he turns into Dr.
Mr. Hyde
And it's like you are
We're actually lucky
That you channel it this way
Because otherwise you would be a serial killer
Like I'm happy that it
Takes the form of these sandwiches instead of dead women
Jackie could you do it here could you grab Pabst
I like this one better than the spoon test
Yeah well it was something
That was in my head being like
I can't have two food situations back
Right right right so this one's gotta be good
I'm hoping this one's good.
Now, we got to name this because we used
to have spicy peanut butter and jelly was the
Sour Patch Kids on the peanut butter
coffee. We got to do a food test.
Everyone's got to try it. This is
peanut butter
jelly cream crunch
is like the idea, right? So we need like a
PB
and PB brand crunch?
PB brand cream?
PB, PBJ?
How about we just call it a cream and crunch?
Cream and crunch.
Cream and crunch.
Because you get the whipped cream and the crunch,
and we know the base is a peanut butter and jelly.
You don't have to tell me it's a peanut butter and jelly.
It's a PB andJ colon cream and crunch.
I think it's too much
of a mouthful still.
Cream and crunch?
PB&J is so...
No, I'm saying
we know it's PB&J.
So you just call this
a cream and crunch.
It's only two things.
That's not a mouthful.
No, but I think
you're missing the...
The PB is really the...
The PB&J is still
the essential.
It's the base of it.
But that's what I mean.
Everybody eats PB&J.
So you're gonna say,
hey, I have a new PB&J.
It's called the cream and crunch. Creamy PB&Crunch. you're going to say, hey, I have a new PB&J. It's called the Cream and Crunch.
Creamy PB&Crunch.
I don't know.
What was that, Jack?
I don't know.
Let's taste it
and let's be inspired.
If anybody wants the milk here,
there's also some
Cheats to go with it.
Peanut butter jelly,
Raisin Bran Crunch,
and whipped cream.
Yeah.
Like, there is no way this is going to be bad.
Sometimes I'm skeptical.
This is just going to be fire.
And I'm going to do this to the audience.
I'm going to intentionally eat into the mic.
Because I think you got to hear the crunch.
Just for a couple bites.
And then I'll leave you alone.
I haven't gotten the crunch yet, but like... See, this is...
Now remember, he's handcuffed.
He's playing with one hand behind his back here, folks.
This is pretty good.
This isn't...
I knew it.
I knew it.
I don't have the right ingredients.
Now, okay, here's the problem.
Here's my problem.
And it's champagne problems.
It just...
You like it?
It's good?
But I...
It's actually, I mean...
It just...
It's too much.
It just tastes like too much of a PBJ, though.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
I either need more cream or more crunch.
These are stale.
These are stale.
Stale raisin bread.
That's not going to do it.
That means it's terrible.
This is a disaster.
I'm sorry.
Well, I'm sorry.
I mean, you botched it.
It's a botched job.
Listen, it's a botched job.
I don't know what to tell you.
It's a botched job.
You fucked it up.
You fucked up two food things in a row.
Look, it's really good.
But it's just tasting like a DJ.
It is really good.
It's truly excellent.
I'm trying to hit the...
I also just couldn't really taste the...
You don't have the right razor bread?
I don't have the right razor bread.
Don't have the right bread.
Don't have the right jelly.
It preserves more of what I like.
It's fine.
It's okay.
This sandwich is better than what you guys all did.
And you all like it.
It's excellent.
That's also the problem.
It's excellent. No, it the problem. It's excellent.
No, it's not.
It's transcendent.
Put like a good, squeeze like a whole thing on and then take a bite of that.
On top or in the middle?
Wherever you want.
But make sure you get a whole bite with a whole bunch on it.
And then you'll get a little more of that vibe too.
This is also, I got to admit, this could be, it's the drug situation.
I was going to say, you're also completely sober right now.
You're not absolutely stoned out of your gourd.
No, because like we were saying as we led into this, right now, I'm Dr. Jekyll.
Mr. Hyde likes this sandwich.
This is some true bipolarism.
I like different foods.
Right, it's like you might be gay.
You might eat this sandwich and fuck a dude.
Whipped cream helps a lot.
The more whipped cream, the better.
You only put like a smattering of whipped cream?
You need like a
can of whipped cream on that.
But it's...
These are stale!
These are stale!
Can you taste it, right?
Yes!
Yeah, they're not...
Crunchy, they're chewy!
I literally said
I'm gonna...
God!
This is the number five
food at Walgreens.
I said I'm gonna crunch,
you know, into the microphone.
There was no crunch.
No.
Yeah, honestly,
check the...
I bet you, like, those have been Yeah, honestly, check the... I bet you
those have been on the shelf for a minute.
I bet it's just a whole lot of it from a mouse eating.
Yeah, because they're not due up for a year.
The whipped cream is so good.
So good.
But that, to be fair, is like a peanut butter and fluff.
That's not new.
I had fluff every day as a kid.
Actually, wait. Fluff's a little different than whipped cream.
A little bit.
Same family. I'm not going to day as a kid. Actually, wait. No, fluff's a little different than whipped cream. A little bit. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Same family.
All right.
I'm not going to call it a failure.
No, it's...
I really wanted a better reaction, but you had the...
Well, I gave you an answer.
No, you had the appropriate reaction.
I can't...
I'm not going to suck your dick on this one.
I was able to, like, see the vision, and it would be good.
Yeah.
I get it.
Yeah, no, it's...
I would do Cinnamon Toast Crunch over Raisin Bran.
Ooh!
Cinnamon Toast Crunch?
Yeah.
Little CTC?
Little CTC.
Pretty good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, it is what it is.
It's, uh...
You can't win them all, but I will say,
you are now, technically by the scorebook,
0 for 2 on your last food things.
Yeah.
What?
Not 0.
You're not wrong.
I'm not taking an 0 for on this one.
No, no, no, no.
This was a draw.
Okay, I'm just saying,
these are not hitting like you expect them to hit.
No, this, I should have got y'all high first.
It's a buffet of bits.
You're doing a buffet of bits,
and right now the bits haven't hit.
You gotta hit on your bits.
If you don't hit on your bits, it's a bust.
The spoon thing also, though,
I came around to it,
and I was thinking about it
we didn't really give him enough credit
well Jackie here's the problem I don't know about you
I was convinced it was going to be something about
how we eat
if I knew where we were going
I was not even thinking about the spoon
but I respect the setup
so I look back on it and I respect it all
but in the moment
it's not going to elicit the reaction that you want and you need.
We were also eating out of small bowls.
None of that was regular.
So I would have been like, well, wait a minute.
This spoon sucks if I had known.
But all that being said, you just inspired, I would say, anywhere between 10,000 and 15,000 people are going to make this sandwich within the next week.
I hope you guys do it properly.
I hope you get – make sure it's not stale raisin bread.
That really fucked you.
That's a non-stale.
Because I will – I'm going to stand up for the white trash Wonder Bread or Pepperidge Farm hearty white or Martin's potato bread.
Like a soft synthetic fake white bread or potato bread will work with this.
You don't need that 12-grain bullshit that Mr. Hyde Feidelberg is – Dr. Jekyll Feidelberg is pushing on you.
I think this morning in my apartment, I was like a man staring down two roads where I was like,
I can take my ingredients and make sure I do this the right way.
But then I'm out of ingredients for tonight.
And then you know what you're doing?
You're ordering from Walgreens at night
and you're getting wildly disappointed
while you're super high.
Yeah.
You don't want that.
So I was like, I'll grab some new stuff on the way.
And then I did that and that was a mistake.
I will say this.
I think, see, a flake is a really good thing for this because it's flat
you know yeah but i've i'm if you're really trying to add crunch i think captain crunch is the
crunchiest of all cereal no you don't want that you want the the cereal is the right cereal the
cereal is the right cereal i'm going to say that because the taste of the crunch because of both
when the cereal is right the cereal is right, the cereal is right.
That's just a bad cereal.
What about if you just get like total?
Nope, not enough sugar.
What about Frosted Flakes?
Frosted Flakes could be good.
That's the one.
Okay, that's the one for me because I was thinking Cap'n Crunch, you're right, is not correct, but it is the right crunch.
I don't really care about the raisins in this or the clusters from Raisin Bran Crunch.
What I do care about is the flake.
And if you add sugar to the flake, a.k.a. Frosted Flakes, I think that might be the real solution.
What about Rice Krispies?
Rice Krispies probably don't have sugar either.
Well, you can get those frosted now.
And you know what they do?
Yeah.
They also now make, have you seen minis?
They just make everything into small little balls.
I think it's for probably babies.
But like instead of a Cinnamon Toast Crunch in a square, you can just get like a little ball.
So it's just like a bowl of balls.
Yeah.
And you can – they make that for every – of your favorite things rather than like the weird shapes and stuff.
I did not know that.
Yeah.
I'd imagine that's got to be for babies.
This is big cereal trying to take over and make you eat it for dinner.
This is exactly what they want, John.
We're playing into the man.
I want to give a huge shout out to Jacqueline.
Jacqueline Nichols.
You scare me, Jackie.
You scare me for a couple reasons.
One, as we have predicted for many, many years years now you will take this over and you will
leave us in the dust two much like feidelberg i i guess two you are on the same path as feidelberg
that scares me uh three scares me too but yeah come on it's a fun ride enjoy the ride enjoy the
ride uh three there'll be some bumps.
You know, like, when you're in the back of the school bus and you hit the speed bump?
It's truly, genuinely dangerous for the children.
I've actually never been on a school bus.
But it's a good time.
Wait, what?
I've, like, never been on a school bus.
I've been on a bus, but I've never been on a school bus.
Like, I didn't take the bus to school either, but, like, you went on field trips.
I've actually been on a lot of school buses.
I honestly don't know why I said that.
That's a Jackie comment.
Yeah.
Jackie probably thought you probably just didn't have a regular school bus to go to school in the morning.
Yeah.
Yeah. I also didn't have that.
I did take field trips.
But I just had a flashback of, like, me being on a ton of school buses.
But were you a kid who sat in the back, or were you a loser?
Well, it would be on field trips. It'd be like I just
sit like... Where?
In the back?
Loser.
Loser. Did you not? Like, you didn't play knuckles
in the back? Loser!
I don't think that we were, like, playing games
on... You are
a loser. I'll tell you what. I think
people were playing games games I was gonna say
You weren't
I'm not sure if you were
Wait but I like
You're probably sitting up front
With a teacher like
A dork
I'd actually don't
Cause if you're field trips
It would be the parents
Who drive us in their cars
What?
That's bizarre
Yeah
This is some California shit
It's a different country out there
But I guess like
So the only times
We would take school buses
Wait I'm sorry
Like every parent
Would take their own kids Or like a couple chaperones?
There'd be chaperones.
It'd be like four or five chaperones and they would like have a car.
Like everyone getting the Range Rover.
Yeah, the minivan moms or whatever.
But they would never have a yellow cheese bus for you?
No.
Like the only times I've been on a yellow bus were like very rarely.
I don't know, you guys.
I don't remember where I sat, but like I feel like I was with the cool. But maybe I don't know, you guys. I don't remember where I sat,
but I feel like I was with the cool... But maybe I wasn't.
Maybe I wasn't.
I don't know.
Listen, were you getting fingered
in the back of the bus or not?
Was weird shit happening in a bus?
I think you should know that.
I guess I wasn't aware of any fun games,
so I was probably with the losers.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
But again, I don't really go on buses
he's just above a bus yeah anyway one of the other things that scares me about you is
i don't now know how many stories of yours were missing because we were this close to that
gym story never being told like she that was not like a
text the group like you know I got a story for the
for the podcast yeah
the only reason that came about is because our
girls called and I just said like you know do you have
any Miss Rippets well that scares me
sparked her a little I didn't think that that was
even that's this is what's an electric
story so now I'm like what other
stories do I have yes so
this is what I do with John and this
is what I think I have to do with you I think I might have to be Jackie's producer that wait a
minute wouldn't that be that would be some groundbreaking internet shit if you were my
producer for this show and I was your producer for your show and you don't want to learn all that
shit no I can't be the the uh this shit but I can be like here's what you should like I'll drag the
stories out yeah you know and then you can yell at here's what you should – like I'll drag the stories out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know?
And then you can yell at me like you're my boss and I'll yell at you like I'm your boss.
Like it depends.
Like over here you can yell at me and over there I can yell at you.
And we just both have mid-shows.
You know what I'm doing in –
What?
I'm going to go to Mexico City to solo travel.
Oh, shit.
Why?
That seems like a little bit of a bad idea.
Well, it's booked.
Jackie, right?
I mean, a single white female alone in Mexico City does not sound like a good idea.
It could be headlines, but I don't think so.
I think you're going to have a blast.
Oh, this is bad. I mean oh of course you two say that what what what i mean like like what research did you do what okay so
basically my sister and i were gonna do yeah yeah but my sister and i were gonna do like
a sister trip and so we were looking at all these places, but we couldn't get it to work.
Let me just interrupt real quick.
Jackie is planning to go alone to Mexico City.
Bro.
What?
And of course, he's like, you're going to have fun.
I'm like, no, you're going to get kidnapped.
Wait, wait.
I don't think.
Also, who's going to kidnap me?
I don't look kidnapable.
The Mexican cartel.
No.
You are a beautiful white girl.
All they see is ransom money.
You are like the dream.
I went to Mexico once and got arrested.
One time.
I was there for like 48 hours.
Well, I didn't get arrested.
My friends got arrested.
I ran away.
I got away from the cops.
They got arrested.
You ran away from the federalists?
I ran away, yeah.
Hell yeah.
Dude, that's almost too.
If you're going to run away, you've got to get away.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I almost got arrested too once.
That was bad.
Throwing chairs off the fucking balcony of Senior Frogs, and they caught us.
And then I was like, I realized we were fucked.
I was getting into the cab to get away, and they were there.
And I just said, take all my pesos.
Luckily, they took, like, 500 pesos.
You, I mean, I'm really not kidding.
I think that's a very dangerous idea.
Wait, but apparently like the cartel, because they don't want, like they don't want smoke with like having to have like an American hostage.
And then like, then we get all involved.
Apparently like it's kind of like safer to be an American.
I don't know if that's true.
I just think that's what they tell you.
They'll rope you in and kidnap you.
I don't know if that's just think that's what they tell you i don't know you might
be right that like i think the high level cartels are like it's stupid to kidnap a white girl from
america because that's gonna make headlines and then like the then they like unload the fucking
military on you you're also forgetting about my massive biceps like have you guys seen how i'm i'm
like getting huge wait give us a flat are. Are you working out on your biceps?
Come over.
Come show the camera your guns.
Honestly, if you're showing them off, that means like you are pretty.
Wait, I can't see.
Can you stand up?
Look.
Oh, my God.
You got to roll your sleeve up.
Look at that.
I mean, yeah.
You got bigger biceps than me.
You got a bicep.
You got a bicep, you gotta have bigger biceps than me, for sure. You gotta buy.
You gotta have a big bicep,
you guys.
Nobody's fucking with me.
So you think that like,
there's gonna be some,
some like,
you know,
low level cartel scumbags who are trying to like,
carve out their part of the city
and they need to make waves
and make money
and scare people.
They're gonna be like,
yeah,
go get that girl.
And then they're gonna be like,
did you see her biceps?
No fucking way. If I walk around like this. Go get a skinny, go get some little wavy bitch're going to be like, did you see her biceps? No fucking way.
If I walk around like this.
Go get some little wavy bitch.
If I walk around.
Also yesterday,
I think I figured out a life hack.
Like,
so I,
you guys borrowed my lamp
for like an out of border sketch.
So I brought it back at night.
I was walking around with a lamp
and I was like,
nobody,
like walking around with a lamp.
It's like,
nobody's going to fuck with you.
Jackie's weapon of choice.
A lamp.
Jackie does all her weapons from Clue.
It was Jackie Nichols in Mexico City with a lamp.
Because it's like, if I can choose the girl with the lamp or the girl without the lamp, I'm going to go with the girl without the lamp.
Now that might be true. That's what all those chicks can't punch in the West Village. without the lamp. I'm going to go with the girl without the lamp. That might be true.
That's what all those chicks can't punch in the West Village.
They need lamps.
You got a lamp.
They need lamps.
What's up with that, by the way?
What's up with that?
Bitches are getting knocked out.
Are you scared, Jackie?
No, because...
Because of those...
Yeah, exactly.
I'm already really scared to be on my phone.
I don't know.
Well, okay.
That's not totally the full story.
No, it's not?
Well, I think there are examples of it being that,
and then there are examples of not.
This is one of those things where it's like,
in real life, I disavow this move.
But if it was a movie character, I'd go,
this guy's got some points.
It's like I have a staunch record of being anti-genocide.
But I watch Endgame and I'm like, I don't know.
I get what Daniel's saying.
He's kind of making sense.
Facts.
Like if someone's just like, I'm sick and tired of people walking with their heads down on the street,
looking at the phones, I'm just punching everyone in the face.
I'd be like, that fucking guy's the villain?
But I see where he's coming from. i mean don't get me wrong there was a lot of responses
to my content on this that said just just them being like influencers people were like good
like i know i know that maybe their tiktoks bother you a little bit i mean these girls had
fucking like punished for like like being on their phones
but like when I'm walking
and like I have to
I do like the jump steps around someone
because they never even bother to look up
I'm like these motherfuckers
and then don't get me wrong five steps later I'm on my phone
but in the moment
when it's happening to me I'm like
if only there was some dark knight out here
punching people in the face
the hero we need.
I think I've mastered the art.
Much like jaywalking, I think I've mastered the art.
Head up, head down, head on a swivel.
Yeah.
If you bury your head for more than two consecutive steps, you're a menace and you probably do deserve to be knocked out.
Now, do I think it should be probably girls who are probably like 5'3 and 100 pounds?
No, I do not.
But yeah, bro.
Within 48 hours, there was between like six and eight girls who got just fucking sucker punched.
And black eyes were talking like Hasim Rahman type hematomas, hemoglobas, on their fucking heads. But what is crazy is they all immediately – I mean I guess I would too in the rest of the world today,
but they all immediately went to their phones.
And they were like literally, literally, I just got knocked the fuck out.
And then like the one girl, this girl, she made two more that was like eating my sweet green while my bruise goes down.
And then one was like when you go to when you go
to trader joe's with your girl after getting assaulted i was like that's a little wacky right
like like there should be some the other then there was one girl at she got to brunch she was
walking like to brunch or whatever and sat down and was like i'm a part of the club i got knocked
out too and she like shows the the table and the girls are all laughing.
And I get that because, like, that's how we would all handle it.
He's like, show up to brunch hungover.
Like, everyone's locked.
Like, how are you guys today?
But I'm trying to be real about it.
If Jackie showed up and had gotten punched, I don't think I would.
Well, I'd probably be laughing after I knew she was okay. But my initial reaction would not be like, ho, ho, ho, this bitch.
I think I would actually have genuine concern.
And then as soon as she gave me the green light,
I would start.
I don't think God would.
Really?
Yeah, okay.
Because this is the sort of shit that...
Because if you're at brunch, you're fine.
Yeah, but this is the sort of shit you...
This hits you like six hours a day, a week later.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, like...
For sure.
Like, this is some serious shit where all of a sudden
you're going to realize that you're, like, scarred from it for a little bit because in the beginning
even for that rest of that day you're probably like on adrenaline you know i would like because
of the nose job i'm like scared of this happening but but like all that hard work from dr steinberg
no but other than that i also keep thinking like i don't know there's worse things in the world
than like getting a few white girls getting punched.
I don't know.
I feel like.
No, no, no.
I'm not talking about that.
Jackie's really trying to lay that groundwork for Mexico.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Really?
No, no.
I'm saying, like, and I'm saying that, like, as somebody who, like, I should fear it.
Like, it's a little bit of, like, a check.
Like, okay, there's worse things in the world.
Like, I'm so grateful to, like, right now just be worried about, like like being punched in the face a little bit oh okay i mean okay i don't mean
it like i feel bad they're not getting murdered yeah like like i'm not like we're not we're not
in the middle east you know yeah somebody who has to go out and like fear that they're gonna get
like shot or something like that it's just like okay a punch in the face but if you come for my
fucking nose job then that's a whole different story. I just quickly want to
take the other side of
that and say, I don't
think that defenseless
girls should be getting
punched in the face.
Yeah.
It's a reasonable
stance.
Personally, I would
like the messaging from
KFC Radio as a whole to
be, we are anti-white
girls, or any girls,
getting sucker punched.
But Jackie, as the
only female on the show you can
say whatever you want you say whatever yeah well now you just made me look like a dick i'm not
saying like grow these girls getting punched i feel bad for them i'm saying as a white girl
i and i would really not like being punched in the face but it's also like a little check like
damn that's that's all but also it's like we do still have to worry about like being raped and
i don't know that's what i'm saying like This is all kind of a bigger, you know.
So true.
Okay, I'm with you.
These are also just the girls who made videos.
There's a lot of girls who aren't on TikTok who are older, who are younger, who are more traumatized.
I bet you this number is double and triple.
It is crazy and if i was if i like shea was like a teenager uh i would
you know and i was crazy enough to still have her in the city i would you know i'd be freaking out
about it i would be but uh you know jackie's got big biceps and a lamp so i don't have to worry
about it um back to mexico city i just wanted you can go back to work if you need two pounds i just
needed these two
he was like
you're good
I was like of course
you two are okay with this
absolutely not
I think you're fine
I think
do we have any
Mexicans here
no
we have strictly white
because sometimes
it is one of those things
sometimes it is one of those things
where like
I remember when
there was that day
of like terror
in Mexico where the cartels were fighting and all that shit, shooting at airplanes and all that.
It was like last year.
There was like a cartel boss's kid got arrested and they were like give him the fuck back.
And there was one day of like some gunfights all around the city.
And to us, it was characterized as like a movie.
Like they were shooting down planes with fucking
rockets and shit and then people in mexico were like it was a little scary but you know it wasn't
all that so my point being that you know there might be some people in mexico city that are like
yeah if jackie goes to chicago by herself she would also be in trouble but you wouldn't freak
out about that would you now i might actually but how about you go to like um like somewhere
in new england like a quaint little bed and breakfast in New England?
Yeah, but I can't.
No.
Oh, okay.
And it's not refundable.
But like I don't know.
I can't tell if it's better or worse, but I'm staying in a hostel.
Oh, my God.
Wait, wait.
I feel like that's better.
Why are you staying in a hostel?
Drop me a real sentence.
Because I can't afford.
Jacqueline.
You can afford all
right how about this if i refund this trip for you will you not go no i'm gonna go yeah you should go
yeah the i'll tell you what you should do bring the helmet think of the pr if i get if i get
abducted in mexico city oh it's huge the pr for yeah i might have you abducted yeah
that'd be like saving silverman shit.
I'm going to Mexico City now, too.
I'm kidnapping Jackie.
Imagine that.
Jackie's kidnapped in Mexico, and it's just me.
We're going to hang out in this bunker for a little while.
The views are going to go through the roof.
Callate.
Callate, pendejo.
This is absolutely one of the worst ideas I've ever heard,
but I can tell that you are not
going to change your mind so i will stop on that and it's almost like like stop trying to
yeah i'm just gonna now i'm gonna help you i appreciate your concern yeah and it does honestly
like if enough people tell me like that's a really bad idea then i'll reconsider but do your parents
know this yes and wait you said
this was supposed to be a sister trip but it's not yeah but but now but then like she couldn't
end up going she came to her senses and i was kind of just like well i need to get out of the city
and like other people couldn't go is there a reason why mexico la ciudad de mexico because
i had travel credits and that was the only thing that it covered. I think we know why, Jackie.
Oh, yeah.
Well, yeah.
But like, I don't know.
They're like, oh, these are enough points to go to the third world countries.
Apparently Mexico City is not bad at all.
Like, I think it's safe.
I think so.
I don't know.
I am sure.
Like I said, I'm sure we have a little bit of a skewed vision of it.
And I'm sure there are places that are in Mexico City
that would make some of the places I think in New York nice
look like filth and squalor.
I think it's crazy for a girl to travel alone anywhere,
but I just might be like, you know, my brain is dad brain now,
so I just think about these things in that light all the time,
but I would highly prefer you not to do this.
I kind of have an itch to travel alone.
Oh, God.
But...
Can I pay for a hotel?
I don't want you in a hostel.
I'd accept that one.
Really?
Yeah.
Why not stay in a hotel?
It's just...
I don't think...
You can truly just get robbed or assaulted,
and there's no concierge there's nobody there's no nothing
okay well we can discuss that later but i god we'll see we'll see thank you this should be
jackie's new fucking grift she's just gonna she's gonna book things that i'm uncomfortable with
she's gonna be like eating it i think i'm gonna eat out of the garbage tonight
here's a michin star restaurant.
Here you go. I would stay in a hotel.
That would be my advice.
I think it's a great trip. I think you should go on it.
I think you should probably stay in a hotel.
This is one of those things where like Ari Shafir
when we had him on, he's like, these places are fine.
And I do believe that.
I actually do believe that.
But I also believe
that I also believe in when you do hear the one story,
like I know a tragic story of a guy who was driving his motorcycle,
riding his motorcycle from New York to the tip of Argentina,
and he did not make it.
And I was like, why were you doing that?
You know?
So it's one of those things where it's like you'll probably be okay,
but if you're not okay, you're the goddamn asshole,
single white female who traveled to Mexico City alone.
What is your plan in Mexico City?
I have no plans.
I have no nothing.
I actually want to almost put up the bat signal, the KFC signal.
We need like an underground railroad in Mexico City of listeners who will like take care of Jackie.
Surely there's a good amount.
You never know but maybe we'll have somebody who's like you know i live in mexico city and we'll make sure you know you
don't die if the overwhelming majority from people is like don't fucking do that but it's gonna be
because yeah you're right you gotta go anyway oh my god i don't know the chicken heads are kind of
they're into it have you talked about it yet no i haven't talked no i haven't talked about it i actually like kind of booked in're into it? Have you talked about it yet? No, I haven't talked about it.
No, I haven't talked about it.
I actually kind of booked in that I, for some reason, just didn't tell anybody.
I was really sus about it.
All right.
I think this is a good time.
Let's get Jack Mack.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because Jack Mack takes on this.
Let me call him, and I'll tell him to come into the stew, as they say.
While we're...
I'll fill some time here.
Oh, wait.
Before I call him. The whole reason I brought all this up,
I wanted to give a shout out to Jackie.
Because she's the realest bitch in the game.
She made her own
clip for the
story yesterday. And in it,
she starts laughing.
And I just spit.
Just comes flying out.
And it's like drooling down her lip.
I actually didn't know that.
Oh, yeah.
It has made that clip.
Oh, that makes more sense.
My comment was like, yo, this chick is committed to the content.
Like she made, I thought she made that clip and she included the spit flying out of her mouth.
Because it's funny.
And I guess she didn't do that.
Is it like a lot of spit?
I can't.
It's the one that just says like Jackie's the best or something like that.
Or like nobody's better than her.
I don't want to see it.
But yeah.
It's like it is like a visible hunk of spit flying out of her mouth.
You should have just taken the credit and ran with it because I was like, yo, you really are slave to the content.
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Jack, my...
We got a couple things here. What do you think of
Jackie is next week taking a solo vacation to Mexico City?
Oh, awful.
Of all time, right?
That's what I said.
She just sprung that on us.
I would say no.
Yeah.
As her podcast father, I was like, no.
And then she goes to me, she goes, do you think it makes it better or worse that I'm staying in a hostel?
And I was like, worse.
Yeah.
Way worse. Why? I like, worse. Yeah, way worse.
Why?
I mean,
that's just peak like,
this is where people
get kidnapped
and not even kid,
like you get robbed.
People take your passport.
People.
Oh,
oh,
you're right.
I'm so sorry.
Have you seen her biceps?
She's jacked.
Also,
a little known tidbit.
She owns a lamp.
Sometimes she walks around with it.
She got a lamp in her hand.
She's ready to fucking throw it down.
I mean, I would, yeah.
Good luck.
I hope she comes back in one piece.
Literally, because that's the place they might chop you up.
We did say it.
I don't want to lose a leg.
So don't go to Mexico.
I don't want to lose a leg.
Jackie has a deep fear of losing a leg.
And if there's one place that they will chop limbs, it's probably.
And also, this is the podcast guaranteed the most references to a Colombian necktie in the world, right?
And I feel like the cartel does that kind of shit too.
So you might lose a leg and get your tongue ripped out of your fucking throat.
Just go to Naples or something.
Yeah, that's what I said.
I was like, can we just go – I was like, go to like a beautiful bed and breakfast in New England or some shit.
I don't know.
Nah, Mexico City is going to be dope.
And then this asshole is –
Nah, I have to go to Mexico City.
She goes, it's not refundable. It's too late. Yeah, Mexico City's gonna be dope. And then this asshole. Nah, I have to go to Mexico City. She goes, it's not refundable.
It's too late.
Yeah, exactly.
But anyway, this all
comes up because we
were also, Jackie, we
were talking about all
these girls getting
knocked out.
Yeah.
And Jackie also seems
to think that's not
that, that's too big of
a deal.
No, no, I do, I, I
do think it's a big
deal.
I really do.
I think it was more
as you were saying,
we're blessed that
that's all I have to worry about. Yeah, yeah, like if if all i have to worry about but i kind of forgot about like the
whole like rape and everything like also having to worry about that but like i was gonna say like
if all i have to worry about is like getting punched in the face like there's worse things
in the world but i wait it's a pretty low bar yeah that's why jackie's going to Mexico. Yeah. Perspective.
The random sucker punches are not a really great.
If the,
if the knockout game sucker punches is not like enough that like,
maybe I might get cut off with a box cutter.
I don't know.
We'll find out.
Razor blades under the tongue.
Who knows?
But yeah,
I know you,
both of us were talking.
We're kind of covering that.
I saw the first girl and I,
I,
I posted my video. Yeah. You were kind of looking for i i saw the first girl and i i i posted my
video yeah you were kind of looking for like not clickbait but i was just like that's a headline
that people are gonna go nuts for it i was just like holy shit can you believe that happened to
this poor girl her video went crazy went crazy and that knot was great but then within 12 hours
it was this one this one this one this one this one it's funny well not funny but that girl who
got punched she is a hayley i think her name is she's like a
big new york city influencer right so i knew who she was i'm not friends with her but i i knew who
she was and when i saw it i was like oh my god the knot was insane and then more and more people
are just saying yeah that happens to me too me too me too It's a me too. Um, now,
uh,
what was your tweet?
Was that a,
uh,
Ellie was talking about Ellie back in two weeks ago,
tweeted out,
which I,
I don't think is the worst tweet ever,
but she was calling out the right wing theory of like,
Oh,
New York city is so scary.
Yeah. And she said, I'm this small girl and she's small and whatnot and said hey i've never been scared
then someone got shot in the head on the subway and now girls are getting punched this is all
within two weeks right we got officers getting killed yeah yeah it was like a the timing of it
was not great not great for her but so that i saw your tweet i didn't realize it was not great. Not great for her.
But.
So that, I saw your tweet.
I didn't realize it was a reference to something else.
The one with like Reek or whatever it said in it?
Yeah, Reek.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That was.
I was like, I was like, I couldn't.
I was like, Jack Mack's not a big guy, but he's not the size of a ladybug either.
No, yeah, no, no, no, no, no.
Well, there was.
It was Ellie's exact tweet that was like, oh, big, scaly New York City.
Yes.
Why don't you – That clarifies a lot.
I was like, what is he talking about?
I did think at first.
I was like, I think Jack Mack can hold his own.
I think he's actually a pretty sturdy dude.
He made the basketball team.
I made the basketball team.
So, yeah, you were in the – that was one of your takes.
I have a problem. You have another take that we one of your takes. I have a problem with that.
You have another take that we've got to talk about.
Bro.
The pink?
No.
No, no, no.
Wait, what's that mean?
That was the Caleb Williams.
Caleb Williams.
Oh, that was funny.
I don't actually like, do I actually hate Caleb Williams because he has a pink phone case?
No.
I mean, it was just more like leaning into it.
Yeah.
What do you mean we can't make fun of the alpha male guys?
Oh, what are you
talking about didn't in the blog you had a line where you were like it's a very good blog oh no
no no no no okay i see what how that got i don't i think hard to hate on them too much oh i'll hate
on them dude they're the worst my point there is i see what you're saying my point there is like i
mean they are theoretically bettering themselves they're
not in fact this is this is i i've never thought this before this might be your too far right wing
because you're afraid of upsetting your base no no no no no no no no no no no no that's crazy
that's crazy these are my boys i can't walk in If you're paying 20 grand to get yelled at for 70...
I literally said in the blog, this probably is a weird BDSM thing.
They're fucking losers, dude.
Okay.
And those guys doing it are like predator grifters who are just like, I'm going to prey upon...
I don't think you're a predator.
You can't have to hustle.
If you're preying on guys, you're fine whatever you are right it's like it's just like i will find the losers of
the world who are willing to pay i think like a lot of money right like 20 grand yeah you're
saying 25 000 18 000 to go to like uh fantasy camp for military basically and like pretend you're in
the army and get like the shit kicked out of you verbally
and physically all weekend long
to then come out and be like,
I'm a man.
You're a fucking loser.
Here's why I think they're losers
is because they're doing the short version.
They're going to the Marines or something?
Your pussies won't even join the Navy SEALs.
It doesn't have to be like,
but just acknowledging the fact that it's a process.
It's like the guy who buys
Six minute abs is never going to have abs
Okay that is the six minute abs of being
Yes so you're never going to be an alpha male
Like the guy who goes
Who thinks the money is the shortcut
That dude's never going to be
The man
I will say
I probably should have considered
Saying we can't make fun of them too much.
Because literally after I wrote the blog, I went to come and find you and Owen.
You guys were shooting.
I was like, you need to make a skit about this.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So then I talked to Owen last night.
He was like, oh, Feist was talking about the same thing.
So that would probably be me writing and not thinking it all the way through.
To be like, yo, we can't make fun of these guys.
Let me go find my friends who make feature skits making fun of things.
So I was wrong.
I literally went.
I pressed submit for review and then went and tried to find you guys.
You guys were shooting.
I was like, you guys got to make a skit about the album.
Dude, your next line was, it was,
and I actually, I do understand what you're saying here.
When it was like, we can't make fun of these guys.
People go on booze cruises and we don't make fun of that.
Well, those are fun things.
Those are universally accepted fun things.
Yeah, my point was, oh, these guys,
they're doing athletic tasks.
They're getting pain for pleasure.
But, like, they are – that is theoretically beneficial more than, like, alcohol.
You're right on that.
Okay, okay.
Listen, as, you know, a lazy piece of shit who doesn't do anything to better myself,
trying and going out and doing those things is better than not right but like
i would i would i would be more if these guys were like i'm gonna get up off the couch and just like
go for a long walk today i would be more like frank more of a man than these guys what frank
is doing okay that's right what frank is doing is better than these fucking guys laying on the
floor getting sprayed in the face with a hose by another man the videos are unbelievable how about
when they start crying have you seen that yeah like there was one where the guy they're almost
doing like uh like it looks like nfl blocking almost or like you know like oklahoma drill style
they're kind of running into each other and he's got him up under the chin he's pushing him and
he's pushing him back and he's fighting back and eventually the guy's like and he like puts his head
on his chin on his shoulder he like hugs him and he was like, this is the male emotion coming out because we are doing mind, body, and soul.
And I was like, yo, yo, you guys are out of your fucking minds.
Go to the gym, read some books, better yourself.
But paying for the punishment side.
The punishment side is crazy. And then thinking like the punishment is like done in the military for like probably the wrong reasons, but also like because we're talking about –
Yeah, like you're not a fucking soldier, man.
You're just trying to get in shit.
Anything – if you're paying money to become an alpha male, you're – I can't.
I mean –
Yeah, no.
That's –
I like the idea of can also send you home
yeah that's
that's awesome
oh we should do
I should pay
and just get kicked out
the first day
when they're like
wake up bitch boy
it's like 5am
I'm like
I'm gonna get a couple
more hours in here
I got a peanut butter
and jelly
and uh
raisin bread
and whipped cream
to eat
I'm good
I liked what you said
about the guy
I was thinking
the exact same thing.
Like you referenced, I forget his name in Billions, but Giamatti.
Tough Roads in Billions.
Yeah, just constantly.
Just thinking of one of the drill instructors just being like,
he's just beating off.
And they're like, fucking stop it.
Get the fuck out.
And he's like, no, keep going, dude.
Come on, come on. I'm almost there. I'm almost it. Get the fuck in. He's like, no, keep going, dude. Like, come on.
Come on.
I'm almost there.
I'm almost there.
I'm almost there.
Do you think these guys are in it for the money?
In it for, like, the power?
The instructors?
Yes.
Money.
Or are they, like, genuine?
Do you think any of them are like, I'm genuinely trying to help people?
Genuinely?
Probably not. of them are like i'm genuinely trying to help people i think genuinely probably not if you
break it down to the the the bones definitely not i mean would they do it for free i don't think so
but also i think it's 50 50 with because then it's like all right be like a trainer or something
either they like the power and being like it's probably more power yeah you know yeah so i think
it's like you're gonna pay me and, and I get to be the mean guy,
and I'm going to bully you, and I'm going to tell you you're going to become an alpha male
so you like it, and we all win.
I mean, fucking Billy Madison.
It's like Billy Madison when they're just spraying the little kid in the face with the hose.
That's insane to do to a grown man.
That's crazy.
Well, they're waterboarding them essentially.
I had a buddy once before he went to ocs asked me to waterboard him so he could like find out what
it was like okay and i refused i was like dude i'm not gonna fuck him i can't i'm not gonna i'm
not gonna participate in this perversion dude he was like he's like it is call me into his bathroom
into the tub being like dude i just want to know i'm like i don't think they're gonna waterboard
you dude yeah i don't think you need going to waterboard you, dude. Yeah.
I don't think you need to know how to do that.
I think at officer training school, you don't get waterboarded, I'm pretty sure.
Here's a question. How many of these guys, because this says how you'll flip the switch in your life and
business.
That's from their website.
Right.
I don't know if this is the same one, by the way.
Remember the one I bought for Joey?
I got Joey one of these weekends for Sina Santa and the wording was very very homoerotic i think it was like we're gonna like
the gay camp where yeah it was a gay camp it was like like we're gonna bend you to the limits and
like push it no we're gonna stretch you to the limits yeah stretch you to the limits i'll be
like bend you over and i was like oh this is it was that was so over the top where i was like that it's gotta be
um but i uh only the weak men will get yelled at
um did you see the video where this is the one that's going viral right now where the guy like
says i will take my skin off yeah and tattoo and like put it
on you that was that was the weirder one that was one i saw too and i i don't know that was like
viral on twitter because i've seen this camp before like it's gone viral before i've seen the
push before and i didn't realize it was the same camp but that was one too we're like and who knows
the accuracy of this but like people were like that's the worst drill sergeant ever
because like all he
all he does is he thinks swearing makes it tough yeah no i'm sure yeah it's drill sergeant like if
you were to look at someone that does navy seal camp or that's what was surprised i'm surprised
you can't get a former drill sergeant you probably can they probably just don't promote it on social
media like others do like this is more of a these are guys that they know they put the the classical
not classical but like the motivational music over them saying like you got to wake up at 5 a.m and
like when somebody tells you they don't believe in you you got to be like fuck you and like then
it goes viral on tiktok it's like the instagram hustle culture yeah that has come like they've
monetized off of it which i don't like i i think it's nonsense and
like you're just going down like a path of like who knows where you're gonna end up but that's
what i've seen like that instagram hustle culture has kind of come back on tiktok it's like the
david goggins of the world it's like uh that's yelling at you and like saying like i didn't
want to wake up at four in the morning
but i did anyways like you're a bitch because you didn't those of the world have like it's
probably andrew tape too like you could do like a true analysis of it they've all come back and
like really been like oh man you got to do this you got to do that and if you're not hustling
like you're wasting your life it is there was a time like the rise and grind yeah yeah yeah like
that was instagram those kids are all in jail now.
Now they're just new ones.
Yeah, now.
Like, I had a buddy in high school who would Facebook post, like, rise and grind every day.
And he just sold weed.
Like, he, like, it was, like.
I was, like.
He's literally grinding.
Yeah.
I was, like, dude, you are a drug dealer.
And, like, I guess that makes sense.
Yeah, there's, like i guess that makes sense yeah there's like influencers that really there's
this guy who like works in new york city and he looks like the most classic like just jersey shore
bro he's definitely working at like a back office of a bank somewhere but he like walks the streets
drinking an energy drink every morning and he has like meat like edm music playing in the background
he's walking it's just like rise and grind today let me try to find him he has like EDM music playing in the background. And he's walking. It's just like, rise and grind today, fellas.
Let me try to find him.
He's like.
Why don't you do this, Jack?
Do it for content.
I said in it, I would be destroyed.
I don't think I'd make it past hour one.
Bro, we're doing Clemmer's rat race.
Fucking put our bodies through hell yeah
no yeah exactly like i mean i i tried out for the basketball team and like my foot hurt the next day
like you know like by the way let's talk about that do you see the picture of of it was just i
guess the entire team yeah there's a hundred people on the team yeah like i didn't play
like like they're they're you know especially for for teams like this guys usually run with like seven or eight because you want to play yeah i think
there was 16 guys on the team it was like the entire half what's the nba team 13 oh fuck i found
them here this is the guy if you want to bring up this guy next um do you have it jack jack pass
has it oh you have it okay what is it look up zan carver on tiktok this is like the most like this
is like the like rebirth of like hustle and grind like like a like a andrew tate type shit you're
saying no like the guy that you want to like once you see him that was him actually that was him oh yes yes yes oh man just
one look and i can see this guy's yeah this is a modern day guido yeah we kind of lost the guidos
and this is like who we have left there was a there was a video of him like walking you remember
when it rained or like it was like rain snow winter remix like a week or like a month ago he
was walking and he was just like,
nothing's going to stop me.
Like I'm still going to get to the top.
He's like, sometimes it rains,
but you got to walk through the rain
to get to your destination.
What was that?
I like that move.
Sometimes it rains.
Yeah, you're right, man.
Now, what about the,
I would call him the polar opposite of this guy.
The dude who's like, that's such a move.
This guy
parties though.
I'll tell you, I bet he does.
He's cool. That guy, like the guys that we were
at the Alpha Male camp, they don't
party. What about the guy who's
like
big white teeth,
Patagonia vest, who's like
the most corny of them all.
I know who you're talking about.
The guy who goes on Instagram
and he's like, another day,
to a rising grind, and he just goes on to his
XL cheap model.
He's like the business version of rising grind.
I know exactly who you're talking about.
He's just the guy.
I'm going to attack today with the...
Yeah, but it's very...
Look up
Instagram... Instagram, like, not him. But it's very. Look up Instagram.
Instagram, like, entrepreneur nerd influencer.
Oh, actually, I'll tell you what to look up.
He is.
I'll actually get it for you.
He gets, he has a lot of followers, right?
Yeah.
Like, he is.
Now, that guy we think.
Instagram big teeth.
He does have big teeth.
That guy we think is making money.
Well, like from what perspective?
From being this Instagram influencer.
He probably does.
I don't think he has a great job.
I mean, he's in Boston.
Not to disrespect Boston.
No, no, no.
I'm talking about him from the internet.
You think he's making money from the internet?
It's like they do, but like I don't know how much.
I'm trying to find them.
Like what do you – I don't know if you can talk about this, but what do you make on TikTok?
How much do you make from the – what's it called?
The collector's fund?
Creator fund.
Creator fund.
I'd like rather not say, but I will say it's fallen off a cliff recently.
Really?
Yeah, because when those platforms either change their revenue share or whatever,
if that's your whole gig, you are fucked.
I always looked at it as like, oh, this is great, extra money, whatever.
They just changed the speed.
I don't know if they hit me but like I used to make like they call
it RPM like
it's
how much you make per thousand views or maybe
it was ten thousand and I was making like
a dollar per that
which is great that's good money
but for you like down to like
ten cents especially me I have no
so like what just happened is a good
example like out of nowhere again like you said like oh we'll come back up but like who knows that like that yeah
that like again you have a salary so it's like you're but if your job is tiktok and they just
cut you cut 90 by 10 yeah you have one tenth of your money now so that's the perfect example of
why you you're playing it right and you have your job and like your salary but
have you ever thought about just being like if i was on my own i would probably make more money
doing it i'm sure maybe for a year but you never know like like what happens if i'm like in six
months i mean the app may be banned like i hear you yeah yeah and that's why i think you are
playing smart but part of me is like you're just this weird outlier where like you're crushing it.
And just for one reason or another, Dave passed past content things past stories and shit like barstool stories.
Like for whatever reason, it's not translating to like the rest of everything that you have.
Like you've grown grassroots a million million followers on Tik TOK.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
And part of me,
like if you were alone and had just grown to a million followers,
you'd probably be out there doing brand deals and like coming up with your
own shit and finding,
you know,
ways to monetize that.
I mean,
I am,
I haven't made like the full announcement,
but I am full-time content now,
which is,
that started after the super bowl.
And like Dave,
like, um, thanks. And Dave definitely like i mean damn i'm sorry i was like i'm just in a weird window where i couldn't
piggyback on that congrats you missed it it's exactly what happened when you said sorry about
kirk's parents yeah remember that and i didn't say anything at the end of the podcast you're
like sorry but i said it after the podcast. It was over.
I was like, by the way, sorry about your parents.
Shut the fuck up.
It was a beat. It was a beat too long.
I couldn't piggyback. And I was like, well, now I'm just
the guy who didn't say congrats.
I was like, fuck it.
Hey. I didn't know what was coming.
It's a nightmare inside my head.
It really is.
I thought a joke was coming, a bit was coming.'s a nightmare inside my head it's really like when you were like i thought like a joke was coming a bit was coming you were like i just i'm sorry i just you know my phone's
vibrating all fucking non-stop now it's the goddamn phone's got my 5g's fucking with my brain
all right so wait you you your content now and what did dave say d Dave asked me, like, would I want to continue doing social, which I've done since I've been here.
Meaning, like, scheduling tweets and running, like, the captions and shit.
Yeah, right.
And whatnot.
And I said I'd rather do content.
He's like, all right, cool.
Like, you've earned it.
And then he said, like, that was back in August.
But I was like, hey, that was right after all the last.
And I was like, we just lost a lot of people on the social team.
Everyone lost a lot of people.
A transition would be very hard in a month because it's football season and whatnot.
I'll do the full football season.
That would make some – it's like, that's a good point.
And then after that –
What a hero Jack Mack is.
But now I'm doing – so it wasn't really a big conversation it was just more asking me and
then we went from there i do agree with everything you just said before that though it's like uh
it is a weird spot it's like tiktok it's not really barstool stoolie audience there are
stoolies on there but it's a little bit different could i make more money if i went on my own
maybe but do you ever feel like it's it's weird like uh
i think there was this vibe kind of like well jack mack can do it you know yeah i did it and
it was like well what the fuck does that mean because like well then you got why don't you
fucking do it too then you know and it's like there's a reason why you're doing it and they're
not yeah i felt that all i really wanted was to stop
doing uh like covering i think it was mine by accident um covering like on a saturday
afternoon i didn't really want to be covering when we had the corn fairy tournament yeah
which was part of the job like i mean you signed up meaning like you didn't want to be there
following around and all that shit or even like i mean it just like watching the corn fairy yeah yeah in the office saturday on a may day from
like 1 p.m to 10 p.m it's really just that corn fairy tournament one day a year and then you would
hear and people would say oh that like oh if jack mack can do it and that was the thing that people
would joke about which i also knew is like if you just keep doing it eventually like they have to listen at some point yeah yeah
yeah i mean it was yeah but i remember being like damn like 500 000 like followers like they have
to listen now and then sometimes they weren't it was like 607 are you at a million now uh 850 850
it's like i still don't think people are listening to, I mean.
Maybe you add up all my followers on every platform.
TikTok followers are weird, though.
I would say Instagram followers are so much more valuable.
I agree, but like, well, no. I think Instagram followers are more real, but TikTok followers are probably the most valuable right now.
My Instagram followers are the fakest followers in the world.
Really?
Bro, I have like 10 followers. Yeah. I but like tiktok followers are probably the most valuable right now really bro i have like 10 followers yeah i have like 10 but but i guess i guess my hierarchy my hierarchy of giving out a follow is like eat from easiest to hardest i think would be
easiest is tiktok yeah instagram twitter and then i think the most
valuable and even easiest like youtube is probably the oh youtube i think is like the hardest and the
best and the most valuable from a just because it's long form content i also don't think we're
uh i don't think it's as much subscribers anymore as much as its views like yeah there are accounts
that have low followers that just steady put out millions of views and i think people care more about that than the shorts
on youtube have really thrown off subscriber counts don't get started brother that's another
hour-long podcast this company has fallen in love with shorts. And I can understand why.
But after doing like a little bit of.
Even just a little bit of research.
If you look at your numbers.
It is the most fake.
Fake smoke in years.
It does.
It does.
Because what happens is.
You bring in short form.
Shorts followers.
That do not watch your long form content.
And so your subscribers are going up. But no one's watching what your core. They're not watch your long form content and so your subscribers are going up but no one's watching what your core they're not watching your episode they're not watching the
full they're just watching this 60 second clip that took off and it becomes this like well we're
getting followers but it's like but if they're not they're getting subscribers but if they're not
watching your shit or what you should do is just have a shorts channel that would be a different
story but when the advertisers want long form when you need more inventory to sell
and it's like i have 500 000 subscribers well 490 of them came to watch shorts and they're not
watching your episodes and it's reflecting because you're not getting any views on your long form
and i think it actually fucked with the algorithm and there's this whole – I mean if you dive into YouTube culture, there are a lot of influencers who are like – the beginning of Shorts was like – it has fucked up the whole platform.
The whole platform.
And it's currently kind of being flushed out but there's still a lot of –
Everyone has a 100K plaque now.
Dude, and they're not watching your shit.
They don't know that you even do a podcast.
They just watch this one fucking clip.
We had accounts that we would post viral videos on, and they got 500,000 subscribers.
But it was like Viva La Stool.
Viva La Stool should just be Barstool content.
The person that sees somebody jumping off, doing a flip, and then landing on whatever,
like a classic viral video, is not going to become a Viva TV watcher.
Just from a basic how you look at social media and YouTube.
So that's always something that –
But we fell in love with it as a company because it like either –
I think there's a couple of things going on.
I think like Dave can do anything on his, and it's going to do well.
And people are like, well, you should do that too.
And it's like, I'm not Dave Portnoy.
Why don't we just get the views of his peaches?
I'll go get a fucking pit bull too.
But it seems like it's easy, and it seems like it's working.
And then it's like, if you look at it, it's really not.
Think about it.
It's like, ultimately, it's a long-form platform.
And it always has been. And in the long run it will be they had to like all of a sudden try to compete with tiktok
which i don't know i i understand these these platforms doing that but also wouldn't you just
be like this is what we do yeah you guys do the short and then tiktok introduces long form try to
be like youtube it's like no no the whole thing is insane. It really is. I completely agree. And then you're at the mercy of them.
And to, you know, what we were saying before is like, if your money is based on just that
and they change the algorithm, change the payout.
I think it was James Charles, Charles James.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He was, you know, cry me a river.
It was like he went from tens of millions down to single millions but
it was like it's a big hit well you know hassan uh the streamer i saw a career tweet about it
this morning yes so he was getting hundreds of thousands of live viewers maybe even like tens
of thousands but that's youtube or twitch he's a political commentary and he in his discord recently has pointed out that his stream
like his numbers are going down and here that's right there pull it up it's like he had like 13,000
right or something like that it's like oh they're bangers but this is what happens to i'm going there's
content creators they get all these views i swear twitch streaming
isn't about the actual content it's about whether people want to pay attention to you and not
uh or not in cloud all that shit was a banger and 13k watch like i'm a fucking gaming at apm
i'm going to kill myself i'm done i hate this job i'm not streaming today but also that's
interesting that like like watching people realize what entertainment is. No, it can destroy you.
That's what entertainment has always been.
100%.
It's about the clout.
Guess what episode's got the most views of Game of Thrones?
The last ones.
Guess which one sucked the most?
The last ones.
Yeah, totally.
I mean, yeah, I think there's some vibe of regular people doing the internet,
so they don't realize that it is show business and
it is the entertainment world it's been around for so long yeah yeah and he's he built it up and then
i mean sometimes people fall off i mean that guy's fine he's saying 13 000 we're watching that's those
are massive numbers but there is a dip but i've seen people have quit their jobs it's different
but that were huge and they're scraping by now like with their
views i'm like i'm sure that is not big regret feeling good yeah because i've looked at their
views and i feel bad for them because i know they worked very good jobs yeah they quit them they
were good for a year and then people got sick of the stick dude there's just so much saturation
mr beast had that tweet recently yeah yeah, yeah. Don't do this.
Don't do this.
I think he's –
You don't want none of those Dewey Cox.
It's true.
Yeah, that's why I've never even considered going on my own.
Yeah.
I also like this place, and I know you guys know I like it.
I've always liked it.
But if you just could look into a crystal ball and know that, like, next year,
if you were on your own and you had a brand deal here and this there.
It would have to be crazy.
Yeah.
I think it would have to be crazy.
The nice thing here, though, is as long as you leave the right way,
once those brand deals drive you, you just come back.
Oh.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You can give it a shot.
You never know.
Like, I mean.
You don't want to mood yourself.
Yeah, you don't want to.
Yeah.
No.
But, yeah, you could just come back.
That is a good point.
Everyone comes back.
Like, there's people that.
It's like the Mets, bro.
It's the Mets or the Knicks.
Like, eventually, you just kind of come back.
Mantis proved that point.
Mantis couldn't stop shooting basketballs.
And Dave was like, I hate you. And then
we did a basketball live stream
three years later, and here he comes.
That point back.
He never stopped.
Is he still shooting right currently?
Well, he got kicked out of the gym this morning.
Wait, really? He was like four days.
And he was so
close right away. He's gotten
to the final shot four times, but he blindfolds.
I know.
Why did he add that stipulation?
It's hard enough.
You did not need to make it a blindfold.
Mantis, I –
Wait, wait, wait.
Sorry.
He's now 7,701 for 8,573, 90%.
That's fucking incredible.
Insane.
He said if you scroll down a little bit more, there's a few.
He's made more free throws during this than I think Kevin Durant's made in his entire career.
I'm sure.
Thousands upon thousands of free throws is nuts.
Yeah, he's made 7,000.
That's more than.
So he would be in the top 10 in NBA free throws made of all time. Karl Malone, Moses Malone, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Oscar Robertson, James Harden, Michael Jordan, Dirk Nowitzki, Jerry West, and then Mantis.
I will say.
Actually, no, wait.
He would be ahead of Michael Jordan.
He's made 7,500 free throws, and Jordan only made 7,300.
He is the greatest free throw shooter of all time, I think.
I mean.
It's because if you think about it, I mean.
Like right now.
God bless him, but that's the only thing he could do his entire life.
His body just moves in the same way.
Yeah.
Like every time.
Right now.
This is a good question.
Right now.
100 free throws.
Steph Curry or Mantis.
Who are you taking?
In a row?
Yeah.
Steph Curry would get it.
We were doing this hypothetical.
Or just maybe not even a row, just like 100 free throws, highest percentage.
So you might miss the first one and then rattle off 99.
You might miss a couple here and there.
Our question was, how long would it take Steph Curry to complete this challenge?
200.
He's a weirdo where I feel like—
I think it would either take him—
I'd say he got it would either take him I think it's how many tries really
under a thousand shots
there's like crazy rumors like no video cameras
like Steph's done like a hundred threes in a row
stuff like that we were there for that
there was no cameras
he's also just
he's just a freak when it comes to like
he's making shots from the stands and weird stuff
he just kind of has that weird je ne sais quoi with his shot.
But, like, right now, if you're just talking 100 free throws, Steph Curry or Mantis, who do you think, who would you take right now in a bet?
Just to have a higher percentage.
It doesn't have to be in a row.
It doesn't have to be, like, if you miss it, you go back.
It's just, like, we're both going to shoot 100.
I might hit 92.
You might hit 93.
I mean, like, it's insane to name anything other than Steph Curry, right?
What does Steph shoot from the line right now?
Is it in the 90s?
Yes.
92, 93?
I know that only because I was so taken aback by Golke's when Golke was at the line.
He was like a 76 or 78%.
That guy can't shoot twos, though.
He has to be behind the line.
What's he shooting this season?
91% same.
91%.
So there's a chance that Mantis –
He's shooting 92.3% this year.
There is a chance Mantis might hit 93, 94%.
The only thing is he's shooting those when he's tired.
But Mantis is tired too.
Also, Mantis is a physical freak.
He's deformed.
He's broken.
As he would say, he's a deformed he's broken as he would say he's bent
that's so funny well Steph kind of
he runs a little bit
well Mantis is Mantis the whole time
Steph Curry's out of breath Mantis' spine
is you know shaped like a
W
I will say Mantis
is probably
out of all the guys that I've been here for that make content, that guy makes content truly just – like I bet he's lost money at this point.
For the love of the game.
He just is like, no, my purpose on this earth is to make content.
And he's going to keep doing it.
I think he's doing well now though.
I think he's doing like okay now.
I would say like on this stream. Yeah. I think he's doing, like, okay now. I was saying, like, on this stream.
Yeah.
I would assume he probably booked it for 24 to 48 hours.
Then he booked it again, then again, and then again.
Yeah, this one's hurting for sure.
But also, these are when you start to get the views and people are like, he's still in there, you know?
You like to hope that comes in in the first week.
Yeah, 60 hours.
Like, the Mantis is –
Yeah, yeah, go ahead.
The thing – Mantis is like the opposite of what we were saying about the alpha male guys.
Because when we were thinking about the alpha male guys, I was like – well, we were talking about like whether it's, you know, their mission.
And I was like, well, I wake up every day being like, I want to make people laugh, not I want to make money.
Right.
But then if you took the money away, I'd say I don't really care about making people laugh.
So, like, it is – it's a humongously important piece to why I do it.
Bro, if I wasn't getting paid, I don't give a fuck if you're crying your eyes out.
We hear stories all the time of people being like, yo, I was in a dark place.
Like, basically insinuating, like, if it wasn't for you guys i would have killed myself and i'm always like man like that's why
we do it it's like no it's not no it's not because if i wasn't getting paid for that you probably
would have killed yourself side effect it's a huge side it's a it is number one side effect
it's right there it's one and one a but it's one is the money yeah It's one and two. Yeah, yeah. It's one and two.
Or I'll even say it's 1A, but there's a huge gap between 1A.
All right.
Let's do some voicemails.
Before we do voicemails, I want to say one thing.
I've been trying – so I'm on Here to Help, Jake Johnson's podcast.
It came out the other day.
Oh, I was like, I think you're on here to be a coach, not just to help, bro.
I'm on, quote think you're on here to be a co-host. Not just to help, bro.
I'm on, quote, here to help.
And I tweeted it out, and I was like, play it cool, John.
But I can't play it cool.
I think it's awesome I was on Jake Johnson's podcast.
I love Jake Johnson, so please go listen to it.
I actually meant to bring that up because I know how bad of a self-promoter you are.
So, yes, we should repost that.
You should repost that.
It's so foreign to us to be on other shows.
We do it so little that when we do do it, I feel like we are like – Whiff on with me?
Jake actually told me that they usually just use one –
they have people in and they usually just use one voiceover, but all mine are good, so I'm going to be in three separate episodes.
Hell yeah.
So that's nice because I was pretty fucking nervous that I just got.
Remember?
Yeah, you were.
I was going to say, this guy thought he wasn't going to be on one episode.
Now he's on four?
Three, I think.
I think we had three.
Three more or one.
Either way, multiple episodes?
Yeah, there'll be two more.
Crazy.
I was positive that I got canned.
I was positive that we did it.
The things that this man cooks up in his head.
Much like Jackie with her stories, we hear about like, oh, I think he heard what I said at that show about him.
He's not putting me on his show.
Those are just the ones that John voices. I can't imagine how many things are rattling around his empty fucking brain
on any given night just being like, that person hates me.
This person doesn't like me.
I'm never going to talk to that person again.
I was so embarrassed because I mentioned that I went.
But then also because I was thinking I can't reach out to them
because I know sometimes people reach out to us.
Hey, is that episode going out?
And I'm always like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I couldn't do that.
I couldn't put that pressure on him.
On Jake because you don't like it yourself.
Yeah.
And I was like – so I was just sitting there.
I was like, oh, my God.
I was like, I bombed.
They scrapped it.
This sucks.
This is so embarrassing.
So apparently it's not embarrassing.
Apparently there will be more episodes.
But go listen to it.
Rate it.
Like it.
Whatever.
And deal with our show too.
Whoa.
Guy's got some cheeks.
Right? Wait, this guy – show too. Whoa. Guy's got some cheeks. Right?
Wait, this guy.
Hang on.
Pause.
This guy,
his voicemail has to be like,
I just got out of the dentist.
I took my first teeth.
What's the craziest dental thing
you've ever done?
I mean, his head
is shaped like a triangle.
Hey, fellas.
How we doing?
And lady.
Sorry, Jackie.
So,
I used to make fun of people that wore cowboy boots that weren't cowboys.
I was like, you don't need that.
Like Jet, for example, from Pookie and Jet with his black cherry Lucchese.
Fire.
You don't need that.
Can't even see his ears. We're going to Nashville next week for like a work thing. His ears are covered. And I bought cowboy boots and like bootcut jeans and like a cowboy hat as like a joke.
And these things are awesome.
I'm never not wearing cowboy boots again.
They're sick.
And like, by the way, I have no reason to wear cowboy boots.
I'm making fucking bread.
I'm making bread, but I wear cowboy boots now.
And they rock, and I get why people wear them.
So my question is, what is something that you did or, like, wore or tried
that you used to make fun of, and then you were like, okay.
Like, I tried it now.
I get it.
I'm going to do this now.
So, yeah, that's my question.
Oh, and also, John, if the Capitals play the Bruins in round one of the playoffs,
I will see you there at the Garden.
Talk to you soon.
Go Caps.
Love you guys.
Bye.
All right, first of all, I don't think this guy's head is weird at all.
I hadn't seen it when you were talking about it.
His head, you can't see his ears.
It might be, like, because I work with the double vodka you were talking about it. His head, you can't see his ears. It might be because I work with the double Vodka Don.
Yeah, I was going to say, he looks like double Vodka Don,
like a skinnier version.
His head looks like one of those Easter Island blocks.
But like a much skinnier version.
That's a regular-ass head.
What?
That?
You think that's a normal head pass?
That's a bad angle.
He's not doing himself any favors here.
Yeah.
If you look at someone dead on and you can only see the tips of their ears because of your cheeks up here being fat, that's kind of weird.
Maybe I'm being too harsh.
Jackie, break the tie here.
You guys got a weird head?
I can't really see.
It looks like he got stung by a bee or has like a –
He's bottom heavy.
Hey, bud, I think you got a beautiful head, dude.
Okay.
This is my sign, though.
I've been thinking about getting a pair of cowboy boots.
This is it.
I need it.
This is the push I needed.
I'm going to get some fucking fire ass cowboy boots.
And they're going to be like, you know, a lot of money.
And they're going to be – and then, you know,
people will be wearing them all over the place in like nine or ten months.
I was thinking about like not a full – like a mid-top.
Okay.
Western is big in 2024.
Yeah?
The Western looks.
You guys are such – I mean, Jesus Christ. Western is big in 2024. Yeah? The Western looks. You guys are such... I mean, Jesus Christ.
Western is so big.
You guys should do Pookie and Jet videos.
Feidelberg is fire today.
The other day, I got a blazer, and I was so excited to wear it,
and then Jackie and Fights wore a blazer on the same day.
I'm like, well, now I can't wear it.
Can you be the third blazer guy?
Just because they're sport coats.
Sport coats. Excuse me. My fault. Bla well, now I can't wear it. You're the third Blazer guy. Just because they're sport coats. Sport coats.
Blazers, typically navy blue with metal.
Oh, my God.
I hate you guys so much.
But here's the thing about, I guess you maybe kind of do this with some other footwear,
but I feel like you're clip-clopping all over the place when you're wearing cowboy boots.
Yeah.
Like, it's, you know, you sound like you're wearing high heels.
You sound like the Monty Python.
Yeah.
Which, by the way, I fucking retweeted the other day.
God damn.
I watched it probably a month ago, and I forgot how funny it is.
That's another one of my, that's like Bohemian Rhapsody for movies.
I hate that shit.
Oh, it's so funny.
I hate when, every time I say that, they go, the Knights Who Go Knee.
And I'm like, yeah, I know. I hate that part, too. The Knights Who Go Knee is kind so funny. Every time I say that, they go, the Knights Who Go Knee. And I'm like, yeah, I know.
I hate that part too.
The Knights Who Go Knee is kind of funny.
The fucking, when they get like very, sound like very educated arguments,
it's so funny.
We're at a knockout syndicate.
They argue about whether or not, are you saying a coconut could migrate?
It's so funny.
It's kind of like Always Sunny, but like always sunny humor almost.
That would make sense.
I started watching this.
Monty Python is what me and my dad would watch starting when I was five.
And at that time, I liked, yeah, the night Tuesday knee.
And now I watch it, and I'm like oh this is
it's just a flesh wound
it's just a flesh wound
but
to answer the voicemail's question
it would be like everything
like everything
I wear I probably didn't like at one point
I don't think it was also just
clothing right I think it was just like is there anything
you've the thing I would never go it's it's the comfort stuff any uh what he said
something like what's something you wouldn't wear or something like that right no i think you're
saying what's something you thought you would never wear or do or and then you got into it
you liked it that's most everything i wear the one i will stay strong on is anything that is like
the athleisure type? Yes.
Where it's like, this is a t-shirt that makes you
look good in bicep. Every
Instagram ad, I would not
wear. And it's like, it looks
like dress pants, but it's sweatpants.
It's a t-shirt, but it's functional.
T-shirts are functional.
They're all functional. How many people are putting on a t-shirt
and be like, this is the wrong function!
Fuck! function how many people are putting on a t-shirt be like this is the wrong function i don't really have many clothes ones so i'm trying to think of just like other
things in life that i was like very anti
you strike me as someone who doesn't come around on much
it's not really my style um yeah i'm pretty
stubborn i think mine's crypto are you are you like you could ask you like six months ago like
all you guys are fucking losers and then i just little bit of money in there one day and I'm addicted, dude.
Check that shit like 15 times a day.
We are currently moving markets right now.
Yes, we are.
That's right.
Getting coin teamed after us.
You Suggs up big.
Will that skippy out?
Yeah, it's out right now.
It's out right now?
Yeah.
Okay.
New out of order skippy.
Like, we're literally,
the market's going crazy for you Sugg right now.
What the fuck? Good. The taxes have been going nuts, but the career is like, New out-of-order skit. We're literally, the market's going crazy for USUG right now.
The techs have been going nuts, but the career is like,
we're changing, USUG's on the run right now.
Can you cash in on that?
I didn't put any money in anything.
Bro, I hope it goes to be like a new Dogecoin,
but you guys don't cash in on it somehow.
BPDR.
Yeah, BPDR is going to get made today.
That is so fucking good.
Yeah, I don't know.
Unsweetened iced tea.
Just a hit.
Now I love it.
Now I love it.
Oh, sorry, boy.
Crew was good listening to today's episode he even calls us crew
the craziest part
about that documentary
quite on set
that y'all didn't mention
was that that bitch Peck
was like best friends
with John Wayne Gacy
fucking pen pal
crazy
inside the apartment
that was ever
he was like
they were just like
it was just like
some weird stuff too
they were like
he had like a pile of letters
and he showed it off.
He was like, yo, check this out.
This is like my prized possession.
And it was like this long letter.
And at the end it was like, you know, your friend, like your buddy and your friend, like hope to hear from you soon.
John Wayne Gacy.
And I had pictures of him with the fucking signature and he showed it off like this.
Who had this?
The rapist on Nickelodeon.
Jesus. A lot of red a lot a lot of red flags
arrested and killed on the spot um which got me thinking who in the afterlife would you want to
have a conversation with slash hang out with nobody you know no family no last words no shit
like that but just like huh this would be a cool conversation like we know josh um brian peck
is going to want to compare notes with john wiggins that fucking weirdo fights we know you're
going to talk to hitler we love you for it no judgment um i'm thinking maybe like nancy reagan
like the quote-unquote throat goat and in this era of sabermetrics like what kind of numbers
you putting up there well chamberlain did you really score 100 points who knows so
who you guys picking wait why are you the hitler guy i don't know okay i wasn't sure if i don't
think i don't hitler wasn't the first thing no like we've done some jokes and you know you did
the skit now i do think we had that bit about how hitler is like the the biggest source of
entertainment of the 20th century well Well, that's true. Right.
So I could see how that could get construed.
Well, hang on.
I could be anti-Hitler but also reap the benefits of his existence.
Dude, the fact that I get to watch Saving Private Ryan
is definitively me reaping the benefits of Hitler's existence.
I think if you say things out loud like,
I'm going to reap the benefits of Hitler's existence,
you might get this question
answered like that.
I'm just saying,
I can't fault this guy
for saying that
when you say things out loud
like I reap the benefits of Hitler.
I said good entertainment
comes from the World War II era.
That's just factually correct.
What entertainment comes from then?
The best entertainment.
All the best entertainment all the best
movies are like world war ii movies because killing nazis is a good thing you're like you
watch people kill nazis like fuck yeah dude that's tight yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah no i mean without
hillary you can't kill nazis it's a chicken or the egg thing right
uh my answer was going to be jesus but as long as I'm the only person –
as long as it's not a regular thing that people can go back and talk –
like no one's ever talked to Jesus and told him what's going on out here.
I just love to be like, yo, you know what's up.
They think you're like a god.
What?
Me?
That'd be pretty fun news to break to somebody.
I would love –
The whole world thinks you're a god.
You're the messiah.
I would love to be like, you know,
that wedding?
They think you turned the water into wine.
He'd be like, I had a couple extra jugs
in the back. I had a stash
for me and the homies. Oh, and by the way,
they call those your disciples now. You'd be like, what?
Pabs? John?
Jackie? They call them the apostles?
What?
They were just the crew?
They say you can walk on water.
It's a dock!
Yeah, it was a puddle, guys.
It was the shallow end.
What are you fucking talking about?
I didn't even build it.
I just showed up.
The dock was already there.
That would be good to really explain the full extent.
Yeah, they say you hate gays too what
um jesus is a truly great answer hitler's is a pretty good one when you think about it um
he said dead or alive i would also like to tell Hitler
That they don't
It's one of my favorite things about
Apple
Is that he doesn't capitalize Hitler
Yeah you motherfucker
I just think it's so funny that
Yeah
We're like we're
We gotta draw a line
Yeah we
We're gonna take a stand
Yeah
Like
Beyonce gets auto
Like
Speaking like Historically Who's a more important historical figure to stand. Like, Beyonce gets autographed.
speaking,
like,
historically,
who's a more important historical
figure?
It's the H-Man.
This is why.
I'm not saying
why.
It's a good reason.
They're calling him
the H-Man.
I'm just saying,
more people know
about Hitler
than Beyonce.
Sound like a
pretty big Hitler guy.
All right, next up.
Next up.
What's up, KFC?
Fights, the whole gang.
I was just putting my groceries away and... Groceries.
I was grabbing my deodorant,
and I realized that I have been opening up my deodorant wrong my whole life.
You know, the little plastic thing that goes over the stick of deodorant. I usually spend like 30
seconds to a minute trying to pull that little thing off depending on how long
my fingernails are and it never occurred to me that you can just use the little
twisty part on the bottom to lift up the stick of deodorant and it's a lot easier
to take off that plastic cap. Took me almost 30 years to realize that so what are some other things that
you guys have figured out way too late in life and how much time do you think you wasted on
stuff like that to be clear he's just talking about removing but he's not pulling the deodorant
up right it's just the plastic thing yeah i mean i definitely
have pulled that without twisting it but then yeah there are times as well yeah um
there's a million of these on like tiktok and videos really like oh but they're also like
i don't know i don't know you don't have have to do that either. Like the recent one I saw was cutting boards, like the handle.
You can also just turn it around, put the handle right over your bowl,
and it's just a hole for your food to fall in.
That doesn't work like that.
And I'm like, I think you're just using the handle in that way,
but I think it's a handle.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't think it's – I don't.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think that's the scrape your food into the whole hole. I think it's a handle that yeah i don't think it's i don't maybe i'm wrong but i don't think that's the scrape your food into the whole hole i think it's a handle that you're using the uh yeah i i
the one that sticks out to me for some reason despite the fact that i don't eat a lot of
english muffins is english muffins are made to be open with a fork but that one worked like that
one yeah yeah oh okay yeah yes yes right because when you if you cut it with
a knife it and it's all flat it is not the same right there's no nooks it's supposed to be with
a fork i don't but again i don't even eat that many uh by the way that's something you should
get on board with what english muffins i'm not against them i just i'm saying you should work
them into your repertoire a lot more they're so so good. They are delicious. I like them.
Big ones now?
Not big ones, but bigger.
Yeah.
Well, you like them.
It's just funny.
You have the big ones now?
They have a big English muffin?
Well, because of burgers.
Because sometimes I used to get R.I.P. to Rathbones,
but the Rathbones burger was on an English muffin with a slice of ham.
And it really makes a big difference.
But sometimes if you make a big burger, the Bones Burger fit pretty well.
But sometimes you go to these restaurants, they give you like a big patty,
and you have like a regular English muffin,
and there's a whole bunch of meat with no bun.
Now they kind of make more.
I think once Thomas' figured out people were making sandwiches and burgers and stuff,
they made a little grown man size version.
And it's just a little bit bigger in diameter, but's it's that's the one it makes a big deal
it's a big difference and there's a couple phonies out there thomas's thomas's is where it's at
put that fork in there but if you're doing peanut butter and jelly and all that shit go with thomas's
um have you have you guys done anything wrong your whole life
nah all that shit on the internet
it's cute it's clever but you never
actually use it
there has not been one that I've ever like changed my life
and implemented it's like I've done it before
and sometimes I'm like wow that really did work
but I'm just like that's not my routine
and I'm not going to do it that way
yeah I think you're looking at a room of stubborn people a lot of times just like I'm just gonna keep doing things
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How's it going?
Really good.
Really good.
I like that.
Yeah, it's a beautiful day.
I had a great walk.
Oh, you're one of these, huh?
What do you see the glass half full?
Well, you know, I don't come to New York City a lot,
so, you know, when I get to come, it's fun.
You know, I wouldn't want to be here a long time, but it's fun.
Where are you from?
I live in Nashville.
Is that where you're from?
No, I'm from Alabama.
Okay, but either way, New York is not your style.
No, no, I do like it, though.
It's really fun to stroll around New York City for a bit.
It's a good pop in and get the fuck out.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's too much.
I mean, I spend too much too fast.
The prices are getting exorbitant, bro.
But luckily, I'm from Boston, or I'm from Massachusetts,
but lived in Boston for a while, and it's another major city.
So I've never in my life been like—
Been in a cheap place.
Well, yeah.
Holy shit.
Except Tallahassee, Florida.
Tallahassee, Florida.
You got your money's worth in Tallahassee.
I still—
What's Tallahassee? What's there? I went to FSU You got your money's worth. What's Tallahassee?
What's there?
I went to FSU.
Okay, that's what it is.
I love Florida.
I'm a big fan.
Are you?
I couldn't do it, man.
I love the heat.
I'm all about it.
I was just going to say, the only thing I couldn't do is the heat.
I love the heat.
Really?
And the sun.
I'll go to Florida.
I take my shirt off.
I walk around.
You walk around shirtless?
Oh, yeah.
No, you don't.
I don't even have that. Hell yeah, brother. You know know what i mean i don't even have that good of a body but
i'm like don't give a fuck feels okay you're like walk around the street shirtless yeah i mean you
know not in a city but like if i go if i'm at a hotel off the interstate where they usually put
me when i do a club and i have to walk to the gas station you'll go yeah i'm like let's get
you got shoes on i do have shoes on i gotta i'm looking at those
no shirt no shoes no service signs well i put you know i tuck the shirt in my pants oh legends
you class it up yeah so when i get to the store i can put it back on yeah dude that's so funny in
in lurking man new special on net, you bring up such a great point.
Early on, you were talking about the Hooters shirts.
Oh, yeah.
And kids in Hooters shirts.
And I was like, there's kind of like a popular joke, internet meme type deal with that.
Any of the girls, or maybe it's any kids, who wore the Cookie Monster PJ pants to school are in jail now.
Yes, yes, yes.
And that's 100% true.
But also, I had a friend who would always wear a Hooters shirt, and I thought it was the coolest thing in the world
at the time. It was the best.
A Hooters shirt, then you had the big Johnson
shirt. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
His dad would wear those. He would wear the Hooters shirt.
Oh, yeah, he had no fear, all that stuff.
No fear was...
No fear and and one basketball
were like... Oh, yeah.
They were like silly, because it was like who the
fuck do you think you are walking around with some shirt being like i am the one who knocks
basically but big johnson and the south carolina gamecocks hat that just like blatantly horny and
sexual is like what are we doing and i would be so jealous those kids like damn they're so cool
i loved charleston south South Carolina for a while.
I would go to Columbia.
I've been to a few football games.
Yeah, I mean, I love the...
But my parents would be like, what are you, insane?
Right, you can't wear a shirt that says...
They want to buy you a Hooters?
You're fucking nine, dude.
Well, my mom was an Alec Wiki fan who drove the Hooters car.
And so she would want to go to the Hooters and meet Alec Wiki
when we would do autograph signings.
So, you know, it was cool for me. I'd go meet the Hooters waitresses. Hooters is phenomenal. She had the shirts. Hooters and meet Alec Wiki where they do autograph signings. So, you know, it's cool for
me. I go meet the Hooters waitresses. Hooters is phenomenal. She had the shirts. Hooters was a
great time. So I would wear them. You know, to us, it was just a racing shirt. Where's the best
Hooters you've ever been? Well, you know, I think Atlanta, Georgia is the best Hooters I've ever
been. But I used to sell pesticides and I had an annual sales meeting in Atlanta one time. And so
me and a lot of the pesticide reps went to this Hooters.
And it really was like pretty mind-blowing how attractive they were.
So much so that a guy I worked with, I didn't know him, but he was with the company,
talked me into going to a strip club.
I had no money.
But it was like, we were like, you know, I was just geared up.
I was like you with the wings.
I'm like, let's just keep getting more attractive.
Went to a strip club.
This was back in the day when you could check your bank account on your phone.
And my check had just gone through.
And so, I don't know.
I spent like, I don't know, $300 or $400 in the strip club.
I had never really been to a strip club at the time.
And then the guy I was with fell asleep at the bar.
And I couldn't get him up. And I had to get the bouncer to wake him.
I'm like, I don't even know this guy.
He's my pesticides buddy.
Yeah, I mean, at least in a Hooters,
you get the wings.
In a strip club, you just get disappointed.
I thought you were going to say,
you ever heard those stories of guys who are so drunk
they're passing out during the lap dances
and the girls just keep on racking it up it's like hey man you've been here
for 30 minutes that's six songs oh no dude i didn't know that was a thing yeah so it just
happened i was just well i was gonna say i i not to you i wasn't sure if it was like an urban legend
or not did it because like i've heard of that but i don't think i know anybody definitely happened
to me so i was like is it real it real? And it happened to somebody?
It happened to one of my buddies.
It wasn't a lap dance.
It was a massage.
So he got a massage.
We were at Tootsie's in Miami, and he got a massage.
I think he was telling this story the next day.
He was like, first song felt great.
Second song, finally relaxed.
Eighth song, woke up.
Oh, no. And if you're a massage therapist
Massage therapists are a stripper
That's gotta be the dream
I have done, I'm not a huge lap dance guy
But I
When they're doing the massages, I'll get those
And I feel absolutely ridiculous doing it
And I
But I also feel like In the moment, I'm like, fuck it.
I don't care.
It feels great.
Turn the chair around.
They're putting elbows in.
It's like at that point, I am not thinking sexually at all.
I'm like, I've got a scapula that's kind of really hurting.
If you could kind of get under there.
That's what I'm saying.
I just did a podcast, and these guys, they were talking about getting,
you know, during their massages.
Yeah.
And I was like, I've been to massage parlors that are so sketchy that I'm like, Hey, I'm
just here for a massage.
Truly.
Don't touch me.
I have some shoulder issues.
I'm going to leave my pants on.
I really want you to focus on C4, C5.
I've got some bone issues.
Yeah.
I just don't, I don't know.
Maybe I'm, I don't know.
I just don't see how that's all that
enjoyable. I'm just like, let's just
do the massage. I'll take care of that myself
if I need to. I mean, I'll go on record as
saying getting jerked off is pretty cool.
I'll be a man about it.
I've never had it happen. I've been jerked off
by people.
Well, that's what I'm saying.
Hey, there are people to me, Cutman.
If you're dating the person, or're like hooking up or whatever,
but if it's like just a stranger that you've been like,
here, I'll do 40 bucks for 30 minutes and at the end,
let's do something fun.
At Tootsie's in Miami, it was like we were late.
We got there like 3 a.m.
And the strippers were very quickly being like,
if you want to have sex, we can go have sex.
And I was like, I'm all set.
Thank you very much, though.
And then we were in this booth
and the two women were sitting there
and they were talking to me,
trying to get me to do things.
And I was like, I'm actually not interested,
but thank you very much.
I'm just kind of hanging out with my friends.
And then they started talking to each other in Spanish
and laughing at me.
And I was like, you're not even hiding it.
You're clearly talking. One was pointing at me. Yeah. And I was like, you're not even hiding it. You're clearly talking.
Like, one was like
pointing at you laughing.
That's like,
if you're hooking up
and a girl's like,
you don't have to wear a condom,
you're like,
oh, no,
I'm definitely wearing it.
Yes, I do.
I was like,
if you're going to laugh at me,
I'll have sex with you.
Fine, okay?
Stop making fun of me.
If you're mean,
I'm going to get horny.
Stop.
And maybe that's it, it right they make fun of you
yeah that is true it's like the the uh the thing you want to hear most in bed and the thing you
want to hear least in bed you don't have to wear a condom oh yeah now i'm gonna pick up because do
i you know should i do i you want to be the one that asks yeah yeah i don't have to do this
to them they're like no i guess not that sort of thing yeah not a you don't have to i've never used
what are they i'm not even sure what you're talking about that's funny um i just i just put
in i put in a little nicotine you're you're a former skull guy you're still a skull guy
well i i do cigars now that's how i get my nicotine but now're a former Skull guy or you're still a Skull guy? Well, I do cigars now.
That's how I get my nicotine.
But, no, I'm afraid to dip again because I like it so much.
Cigars, I can do it a little bit and then lay off.
Have you jumped on the nicotine pouches, Trey?
Well, no.
Like I say, I like it so much that I'm afraid that if I do it,
then I'll be doing it every second of the day.
What was your flavor choice?
I know a couple guys.
I always would do a Kodiak Wintergreen.
Whoa.
Yeah, you like burning a hole in that.
I was going to say.
I don't dabble, but even I know that's the real fucking deal.
I haven't done it in 12 years, and I can still run my tongue through here
and, like, feel where it used to be
dude i had a battle yeah i i started very young and then i had a uh a catcher in college who i
played with who had braces and he would go like this before he put a lip in oh no his gums up
so it would get like he's like it gets a nicotine fast i'm like you're a psycho that's insane where's that guy from uh this was in college was in vermont i think he's from the
new england area and where is he now yeah jail yeah with the cookie monster that's wild yeah
i mean i like that i would also you know weirdly contrast i would do sometimes the skull uh like
sour apple oh yeah the other end of the spectrum. Yeah, it was just a,
you know,
it was a good flavor.
It was like a good little mix-up.
Doug's gonna say,
did you ever do the mixes?
Because in high school
we would do like bapple,
which we'd get the berry,
we'd get the apple.
Oh, no.
We'd put all those together.
A couple of, you know,
we had chemistry scientists
over here mixing them.
We also thought
we invented pouches
because we would take tea bags
and we'd empty out the tea
because some of us,
we were in high school
and some of us still had braces.
So we'd empty out the tea bag, fill it with long cut, and then put the tea bag in our mouth.
Oh, maybe you did it.
I mean, you know what?
You didn't invent it, but in the moment to not know that that was a thing is pretty ingenious.
Yeah.
You can do a – yeah, homemade pouches.
I mean, we were just talking about it yesterday. He had a friend who poured out his dip spit to strain and re-
Oh, wow.
That's the grossest thing I've ever heard.
I mean, I've taken a drink from a spit bottle plenty of times.
But it's like, that's the grossest thing I've ever heard.
Ever.
There were a lot of times when if I ever got pulled over by a cop,
he'd be like, what have you been doing?
Because when you're driving, you got your spitter here your water here you kind of just
go grab it and like literally like 10 15 times i grabbed their own one and i would just like
i would like spit it all over myself and then i was like if a cop pulls you over he's gonna be
like what the hell is wrong with you yeah the thing we would do is uh in the bar you know you
get you know you get like two bottles,
and you're spitting in one, drinking out of the other.
And they're beer bottles.
That way it doesn't, you know, you're trying to talk to girls,
so it doesn't look like you're dipping.
But that's a dangerous game once you've had 10 or 15 of those.
If you're drunk enough, though, you're like, well, that happened again.
You know?
It's like doing it hungover is a different thing.
Yeah.
You're like, this is fine.
It gets gross.
When they spill or, you know, you have a whole big bottle totally full.
I never realized until after.
Like, when I was in it, I didn't realize until after, like, just how gross it is.
Like, I would have bottles just, like, laying around.
And, like, I expected people to be okay with that.
Yeah.
Yeah, someone who doesn't do it sometimes is like,
so every shelf and everything here just has like 20 ounces of spit.
And then you open it, and it's like an old one,
and you get a nice little whiff.
It would like...
I mean, I found a video from 2004 of my buddy filming me, like, packing a can and then putting in a dip.
And it looks so gross, but also, like.
But so cool.
Yeah, I'm like, I'd like to do that again.
It's the same thing as smoking a cigarette.
It's like, I don't know.
It's all stupid, but the same thing is, you know, it's cool.
Well, that's the whole point of my jokes on the Netflix special.
It's like, I'm like, yeah, smoking's bad, but it's
so fun.
Nicotine is like the
best. I mean, the Marlboro Man is like
all that is man. Joe Camel
was mad cool.
Now, in this special, you mentioned
something that I thought was really funny.
When you were in the trailer,
paranoid. Are you sober now? Because you say at one point, you're like, I used and you were in the trailer paranoid?
Are you sober now?
Because you say at one point you're like, I used to do drugs.
Is it just like you stopped doing drugs?
Yeah, you know, I still will mess around with weed a little bit,
but even lately I've not been doing that.
But, yeah, I was doing some different stuff back in the day.
What were you doing? Well, I don't really get too into it.
The black tar heroin.
But, you know, you're hanging out in the trailer in the middle of the day and you're like what's going on outside
and the trailers are real narrow you know so like a single wide so you can go from side to side
checking blinds and you get yourself real paranoid and then it's like if you just go outside you're
like oh it's actually a pretty nice day.
But inside, it's so dark in there.
For the opposite end of the spectrum, being paranoid in an apartment is also very scary. You hear all the doors opening, all the clicks going.
You're like, who the fuck is outside the apartment right now?
The great thing about being in a trailer park that's a little sketchy is that nobody wants to call the police.
And the police is the real fear when you're doing drugs.
You're actually not afraid of crime.
Yeah, nobody call the cops when you're on drugs.
It's a pretty fucking strong rule everyone should abide by.
Yeah, and it's like, you know, this trailer park, it was not like, you know, the crime wasn't bad, but everybody was a little sketchy.
My trailer got broken into, and I'm pretty sure the guy that did it was hanging out with me, you know?
It was an inside job.
Yeah.
What did he get?
Well, he stole my weed pipes.
I had two little glass pieces.
I had an old cigar box, and then I had some foam in there that I had cut out, the outline of the – so they were really displayed in there.
And he took those, and he took my Nintendo GameCube.
That was during that – I don't know.
And it was during, like, tube TV days.
That's too big to steal.
I was going to say, you're not walking out with this thing right here.
Right, right.
So it's pretty obvious it was someone that knew me.
There's no money to take.
Those were the most valuable things.
When I was in Tallahassee, I got robbed once, and the cops were just like, they just took my TV.
And the cops were like, did you put the box outside?
And I was like, well, yeah, I put it outside for the trash.
Oh, yeah.
Then they know it's inside.
One of your friends took it. I was like, well, they're not my friends, for the trash. Then they know it's inside. Then one of your friends took it.
I was like, well, they're not my friends, dude.
They just live in the same building as me.
Yeah.
Yeah, you know, I'm still paranoid about putting the TV out in the box,
out in the trash, even though TVs are not even valuable.
Bro, you can get like a 150-inch for like $250 now.
It's crazy.
Actually, I firmly believe televisions are free.
If you were to break down the amount of use it gets for the price it costs, that's free.
Yeah, they're just giving them away.
I can't believe there are still people who will pay like the $5,000,
well knowing that like in one year that will be like $500.
I know.
But like you have to have the 4K, whatever, first.
And there was an era
where they were like
bent on it
I bought one of those
curved ones
and it fucking sucked
yeah
and it was
and that
that actually ended
pretty quickly
oh yeah
the market was
was very quickly
like this doesn't do anything
and I was one of the suckers
that had one of those
we had a big screen
the old school big screen
that was like
and we lived on a
second floor apartment
and we had to like it took four guys to get it my grandma had one of those with like the
the screen that's kind of like you could push it in almost a little bit oh yeah yeah yeah yep
i mean it was great for the time i mean this was mid-2000s still probably a little outdated but uh
no i mean the yeah i i think you know my grandma died Yeah so she probably
Had it in the 90s
Oh yeah
Mid late 90s
Where it was like
Big screen in the 90s
That was big money
Because now it's like
It's just like
How big is your TV
Right
But there was TVs
And then there were
Big screen TVs
And she had that
And I had one of those
Also when I was
First living
Out of college
And when we left
That apartment
It was like
This is part of the apartment oh you
leave like the toilet you know you also leave the big screen tv no one can move that me and my buddy
went in on the tv and when he left we left on bad terms he wanted to take the tv i made him pay me
my half and then i was like you're on your own to get it out if you're taking it you're on your own to get it out of here if you're taking it you're on your own yeah i'm not helping have you um made any big purchases like like any celebratory purchases specials well you know
i bought some land in 2020 and then i i put a cabin on the land and then so i've just been doing
stuff to that over the years but no not really i mean i don't i don't know i'm not really a uh
i don't know i'm not a big buyer of things.
I got weird things I collect.
I like to collect DVDs.
I know DVDs in themselves are not weird, but nobody wants them anymore.
Yeah, but that's smart now with all the way everything's coming off streaming.
And you're like, well, how, like, what was I trying to watch recently?
27 hours?
What's the zombie one?
28 Days Later?
28 Days Later.
Oh, yeah, you can't get it now.
You can't watch it.
I was like, I didn't know that.
I'd never seen.
I think I was just doing a Cillian Murphy run, and people were like, yeah, you can't watch
it.
And they're like, you can try and buy it on eBay.
I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about?
That's what I'm saying.
You can't even buy it on Prime?
Prime, no.
Wow.
There's a couple of movies like that.
Why is that?
What's another one?
It's a real contagion type.
I think there's a bit of a conspiracy behind it
there's
Oldboy
the original Oldboy
you can't
you can't get anywhere
interesting
it's very like
you have to have
a copy of it
like you can't buy it
even like new
like they're not
making it anymore either
so like
did they go for like
money on
I don't even really
remember looking
I don't think it was
like regular though
I don't think it was crazy but I don't think it was like regular though I don't think it was
crazy but I don't
think it was like
$30
you know what's so
funny is now I'm
like I want to
watch 28 days later
dude me too
so I haven't seen
it
oh that's
I mean I've seen
it it's a great
I think it's probably
the best zombie movie
now I feel very
smart you guys got
very engaged about
the DVD
now I feel very
smart about what
I'm doing
you're like like you're gold
yeah i'm like i don't want to be i don't want to be told what i can watch and what i can't watch
yeah i think that's a big thing now there was since like warner brothers and stuff like that
started cutting movies and taking things off streaming i think like there's been a push to
get physical media like uh oppenheimer i think sold out in a day in walmart
because like everyone gotta have you gotta have the physical media one of the best times of my
life was early netflix prior to streaming when it was mail service oh yeah i had uh my dad got me a
laptop that had a dvd burner oh and i had had the seven movie package going.
I could order seven movies at a time, unlimited a month.
Oh, yeah.
And I would get seven discs sent to my house,
and I would just burn them all without even watching them,
send them back, seven more.
It was, like, truly unlimited.
And, I mean, I had a movie binder this big.
That's right up my alley there.
I had, like, a whole bootleg.
If I had a little bit more
of an entrepreneurial sense back in the day,
I just was like the movie guy.
People would just come to my dorm and be like,
I was like a library, basically, to check it out.
I could have made bank.
I had every movie
under the sun. It was amazing.
I watched a fraction of them,
but it's almost like a collection,
just knowing you have them.
At any moment, you want to watch twister i got it bro like whatever i just watched i used to do that with cds i'll go to the library and check them
out for free and then back when music it's like it's weird to think of a time when music wasn't
just readily available yeah with spotify it's like you can literally listen to anything you want
any time of day.
Back in the day, you're like going to a blockbuster being like, hey, do you know this song?
There wasn't even a way to look it up.
It was an art to making mixtapes and your own CDs and your own, you know, like.
I still love a mixtape.
Hell yeah.
I'll make mixtapes, put them in the car, and then I'll be like, man, that's a great song.
Like I didn't make i will say i've definitely uh a couple years ago i remember making some spotify playlists oh yeah
and being like maybe there's something here like maybe we can uh you know like the same way you
follow on social media you follow my my page on on Spotify and we'll sell some ads somehow because I've got like a really great mix.
Yeah.
And then I realized like every mix you've ever thought of has been made.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like there is no, you know, okay, it's going to be late 90s, early 2000s hip hop and R&B with an East Coast, like whatever.
And it's like there's someone who did that plus another 500 songs.
I do have the Dusty Slate Country Music
playlist on
Spotify that I think is pretty good.
It's my own personal, like there's no
genre,
I mean, just other than being country.
But it's old, new.
I was just going to ask you.
Besides popular songs, it's good.
You're a more,
I guess it was a stadium country.
What would you call it?
Oh, I like the outlaw country or like some sad country.
Yes, that's my guy.
I'm not really.
I mean, there's some bro country I like, but overall, I'm not into it.
That's what got me into it when I was in high school.
I liked the Kenny Chesney, the Brad Paisley. Would you consider
them bro country? A little
bit, but they got, you know,
they're still like late 90s, early
2000s people. It's really
like the Florida, Georgia,
Florida, what's it called? Florida, Georgia line.
That's like, when I think of bro country,
that's, you know. And almost
everything that gets an award now
feels like bro country.
Or whatever, new country.
I mean, and there's some good stuff out there.
But I like, you know, everything's about drinking and partying now.
I like drinking songs, but I want it, you're drinking because you're sad.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm taking this too far.
It's unhealthy.
I might die.
Like a Dwight Yoakam, Two Doors Down, where he's like crawling back from the bar.
Yeah.
That kind of stuff.
That's what I meant.
Like a man.
Yes, exactly.
I want to cry when I listen to my music like a man.
Yeah, you'll want some emotion behind it.
That was such a, I don't want to talk about it because people should go watch the special,
but you did bring up such a great point about country music.
Oh, yeah.
Well, thank you.
Well, I love country, you know, and I got more country music jokes.
I got a YouTube video where I did a seven-minute or maybe even a ten-minute breakdown of the song.
It's five o'clock somewhere.
Oh, really?
Yeah, I think it's really – I want to re-record it and make a better recording.
I just did that at a show.
But it's really good.
I just kind of take the character of the song and, like, what's this guy really up to?
Because if you listen to it, it's like, oh, it's a hardworking guy.
And, you know, he gets off work and he just wants a drink.
But, you know.
There's more to it if you dig in.
Yeah, if you dig in, you're like, this guy's an alcoholic.
He's creating a lot of his own problems.
You know what I mean?
You got a great beard, brother.
Oh, thank you.
I appreciate that.
Is that, it's dark, though.
Is that natural?
It is.
And that's why people always think I'm wearing a wig.
Because my hair and beard are different colors.
I was thinking to myself, one of these two things is fake.
Yeah, it doesn't make any sense, right?
Even my arm hair is like blonde.
I'm like three different hair colors.
Yeah, that's crazy.
I don't know what's going on.
Because I'm at the point.
Somebody came up to me the other day this uh this lady i think had a couple couple drinks in her
and she came up to me real close talker and she had recognized me from barstool and she said are
you from barstool and i said yes and she said i knew it i saw the gray patch in your beard and i
knew it was you and i was like if i'm being recognized by gray patches in my beard, I had never even – I didn't care at all until that moment.
And then I was scragglier than I am right now.
And I think it's actually both sides.
But right here, right?
Yeah.
And so when it grows out, it is like – it's like white, you know?
And I had never even considered that I might have to do some Just For Men or diet or whatever.
Or do I not do that and just power through?
But since having that happen to me, I now notice these things.
That's a great one.
Yeah, that's like a YouTube comment in real life.
Yes.
I was like, we have like a running thing where it's like there's just so many things you don't need to say to us.
And that's one of them.
You could have just said, I recognized you.
On the internet, people seem, like I get mostly good comments,
but people will find like the one thing that I'm like,
oh, you're really digging in there.
I got a thousand good comments and this one really hurt.
That's the one that'll stick with you.
Always.
The other 999 erased because of that one right there.
If you're just like, you're not funny, I can handle that.
Right.
But they get deep with you.
Dude, I actually can't handle those basic ones.
Those ones.
Oh, yeah.
The ones that I know were so effortless are what really bother me.
They just went, you just so easily could have not said that.
I comment back a lot.
And my wife tells me not to do it.
I try to keep it classy.
I just kind of want to let them know,
hey, I am reading this.
A lot of times they'll go,
oh, I'm sorry, man.
I'm a big fan.
I didn't know you read these.
It's even worse.
Why the fuck are you...
One guy commented,
he was like, oh, I saw? One guy commented, he was like,
oh, I saw this guy in Phoenix,
and he was just a regular boring comic or whatever,
and I'm like, so boring
that you had to come watch another video?
Yeah, and you paid to go to a show,
and now you're watching again?
Yeah.
Yeah, on the beard, I have,
I'm kind of a,
I have just regular brown,
and then I have some ginger,
and now the gray, and it just doesn't look good.
I disagree.
I think it looks Logan-esque.
Yeah, I think you got a good look.
Yeah.
Okay.
Thank you, gentlemen.
I almost wish I would rather – I think salt and pepper looks great.
I would love a good salt and pepper.
Or I would rather – I want to go hypers go hyper speed make me a silver fox yeah like go
all the way yeah you know white like did they make like gray beard dye i think they do make a little
salt and pepper where they're like you know you're not because that's the other thing is when you come
in like jet black all of a sudden it's like whoa what the fuck's going on here i got a few gray
ones here and there and that's you know and I think that's from when I got married.
That's what my wife always says to me.
She didn't bring an element of stress to my life that I had not had.
But seriously.
Also a lot of comfort, too.
She's a great mom, but a lot of stress that I had not had.
Yeah, it's like, how many years have you been married?
One, two, three, four, five, there it is.
Maybe one.
Rings on a tree.
So how did you and Nate become friends?
Is that just Nashville?
Yeah, just Nashville.
And, you know, they started that podcast during COVID.
And I had met Nate a few times, did some shows with him.
The best.
Yeah, he's great.
And then, you know, I guested on the podcast one time and people liked my guest
appearance so much that they you know nate asked me to join the podcast and yeah it's great it's
really great the the biggest problem is that nate is like the biggest comic in the world
so i have a netflix special i'm doing very well but next to nate i'm like an open candle in the
sun and the guy's breaking attendance records all over the country it's crazy good job I'm doing very well. But next to Nate, I'm like an open candle in the sun.
And the guy's breaking attendance records all over the country.
It's crazy.
Good job to have them. He's with Fallon right now, right?
I think I just saw him probably playing dome hockey with Fallon.
There was a shot of him in the round that looked particularly huge,
like whatever the arena was.
Because, I mean, when you get in the round and you're just like this,
it's not like a court or like a regular thing.
You're just one person on a little stage.
It's just so many people.
I did the show with him at the Bridgestone Arena where the Predators play.
And they broke the attendance record there, previously held by Morgan Wallen.
And it was a tiny little – and I thought the round, for some reason, I thought it was going to rotate while we were on there.
I feel like there has been some.
But I'm just a stand here kind of guy.
And now I've got to rotate around?
We've heard that from a couple people, though.
It's not what you usually do.
Yeah, it's 17,000 people, and I'm up there for seven minutes that feels like 30 seconds yeah yeah that to me you know hey tell a story to 17
000 people is like get the fuck out of here what do you mean what am i supposed to do right now i'm
doing a thousand seat theaters and stuff like that pretty regularly and i'll do an hour 10 a show
and now i'm doing seven in front of 17 000 i'm like i got up there i was like
and i'm like all right see you the the best i've ever heard and i will never be in front of that
many people but burr break it down where burr was like he's like i just treat it like it's five
different theaters or whatever the number is or he's like i'll do one show to this theater and
then my next joke is my next show and i'll do that to this theater and i was like oh that actually makes sense
i can see that yeah i mean it it's easy to break it down that way it's another thing to do it yeah
yeah yeah you know with him at least though he's he's like more of an aggressive comic yeah and uh
you know and i do a lot of subtleties right but n But Nate also does subtleties. I was going to say, Nate's exactly the same.
So it's like he really ruins my whole defense of that.
You know?
But it's hard for me because, no, he does the exact same fucking thing.
Yeah, but I don't know.
It's great.
I don't know that, I mean, I always say this when I'm at a new level,
that I don't know if I want to do the next level.
Well, it's a good fallback.
It's good, you know.
But that does seem like too much to me. When I was doing clubs, I was always like, I don't know if I want to do the next level well it's a good fallback it's good you know but that does seem
like too much to me when I was doing clubs I was always like I don't know if I want to do theaters
and then I started doing theaters and I was like actually this is really nice yeah and then now I'm
like but I don't know an arena seems I think arenas is it you know the idea of doing some like
little crowd work and something that kind of goes out the window because you know it's you gotta just just have your material yeah yeah but i guess you know if you're in that position where everywhere
you go you can sell 17 000 tickets yeah uh because what's cool about the arena part is uh
all the fucking money yeah right i mean sometimes i'll do loose math on what people are making and
i'm like these are like like Sebastian Maniscalco.
I was thinking he sold out like Madison Square Garden or something like.
Yeah, like seven shows, I think.
Yeah, he moved like 100,000 tickets in a weekend.
I was thinking he made each show after all of his cuts.
And this is just loose math.
I have no idea if this is true.
But I was thinking he was making a million a show.
Like after after agents managers
and i don't know this is just my figure and i could be way off but imagine i can't imagine
making five million in a weekend and then still having a drive to do more yeah that's what's so
amazing i can't tell i can't tell what's more impressive about about the comedians because
we've talked to a lot of them by now and and i'm like what's more impressive to me when they have the drive when they're broke
or the drive when they have the money because when i'm like you guys like you could have just
had a normal job and made normal money and not like slept on the cot for fucking six years
uh and you chose to stick it out and then there's like now
you have like a palace and you're still going to you know oklahoma to do your set at a theater or
whatever yeah you give me a year of making a million a weekend you'll never see me again well
see that but but it always just we we just did two bears with burt and tom and we were talking
about their new uh vodka and tom said if it all goes well, you'll never see me
again. And I was like, Tom Segura,
you have never see you again
money right now. Oh yeah.
If you want to disappear right now, you can
disappear. You don't want to. I guess though
he
if you start to live
a lifestyle, like
you could disappear and still do whatever
the fuck you want. You know what I mean? Yeah.
But I think Tom could disappear and do pretty much whatever he wants.
You think so? Like, I
think even, like, I remember
the producer, the rap producer, Scott Storch,
he blew $100 million.
He had $100 million at one point and then was
broke at one point. What was he doing? What did he blow it on?
Private jets.
Private jets was his main thing. Probably a bunch of drugs,
but also, private jets was like, you you know i just want to fly private everywhere it's like if you if you
get to a certain lifestyle you can almost spend any money i still drive a toyota corolla i am fine
without luxury we were down there at this party and there was a literal ferrari dealer there being
like so uh you know what are you thinking and And I was like, I lease a Ford Explorer.
Yeah.
That's what I'm thinking.
And I want you to get out of my fucking face, pal.
I mean, between me and my wife, we got a truck and a Corolla, and I'm into it.
Bingo, bango.
Yeah.
You are living the dream.
I can haul some stuff, and I can drive and zip around everywhere and not worry about
getting dents and dings.
When I was a kid, my buddy's parents were divorced.
They had just gotten divorced.
And we were hanging out at his mom's house,
and his dad came with a new car to pick us up or pick him up or whatever.
And so we're standing in the foyer, and mom's in the doorway,
and he's walking up the path.
And she goes, new car?
And he's like, yeah. And she goes new car and he's like yeah and he goes she
goes what is that a camry and he goes nah corolla and she just goes thought so and we were like oh
yeah i thought so that's why i don't even like new things. I like, give me clothes that have been worn a little bit.
I don't want people criticizing my new stuff.
I want you to think I've always owned this.
That's always how I've been.
I don't like anything flashy.
I want to look like I wore the shirt for 10 years.
Really?
Interesting.
So you're going to have money forever then?
Yeah, I mean, people love love Like you get your car fixed somewhere
And they go oh what'd that cost you
And then you tell them
They go oh I could have got you a better deal
Yeah yeah
But when you're looking for the better deal
They can't help you
People always can get you a better deal after
But when you need it
Not in the moment
You can't find them
That's a great point
Everyone's got a guy
Or should have gone to this
Or done that
Where the fuck were you when it counted man
Right
Yeah I hate it um the uh the the nate i i feel like nate the problems you're describing
of nate are good ones to have the best yeah i mean it's uh which is actually so funny too
considering i believe it was his last special maybe it was two specials ago where he's got
the joke about how his wife is
selling things on Facebook marketplace.
Yeah.
And it's like fast forward three years.
It's like you sold out Bridgestone Arena.
You don't have to sell things on Facebook marketplace anymore.
You don't need to do that.
Well, you know.
I bet she still does though because I feel like sometimes people,
if you're that type of person, you just do that.
It's not even about the money.
Well, his wife is from Alabama too.
So it's like you know
there's something ingrained in us alabama people you know we're down home uh you know but i you
know i'm i'm in a sense i'm you know i'm like three years behind nate i always i've been trending the
nate path for a long time brother i would stay on that one yeah so i feel good i feel good about
where i'm at you know nate's about don't know, three years older than me,
and we're just kind of trending the same way.
There you go.
So I'm into it.
Cool.
So are you an Alabama sports fan?
I like sports.
I feel like now that Nick Saban's retired, college football's dead.
That was kind of my question is, like, do you care?
I love college football.
That's my favorite.
You know, I grew up in Alabama, but I grew up right next to Auburn.
I mean, I can kind of go either way.
I know you're not allowed to do that.
You have to pick one.
But I'm like, I like seeing my teams from Alabama do well.
You know, when it comes down to the Iron Bowl each year, I'm like, well,
who has a chance to win the national championship?
And that's who I want to win.
Because for a little
while it was like i feel like it was like nine and ten uh alabama won in 2011 auburn won and
then 2012 alabama won again so there was like four years of the state of alabama winning the national
and i'm like that's what i'm talking about keep Keep that going. And I guess I think the coach, I don't know his name fully well yet,
but the new coach.
He's from Washington, right?
Yeah, I think there's a good chance for them to still be good.
And Auburn, hopefully there's some hope for them with the guy.
I forget his name.
You're not talking to college football guys.
Yeah, I'm not going to be able to help you either.
But, you know nfl uh i like
uh you know it seems to get a little less entertaining to me each year uh i don't know
but uh i do like it i would i would agree with you on everything you said thus far yeah i i think
there is something about getting older where um i mean there was you could have told me at some
point in my life like hey one day you're gonna become less of a sports fan. And I would have been like, shut the fuck up.
Yeah.
No goddamn way.
And now it's like, yeah, it's just I don't know what it is.
Yeah.
I mean, I have two small kids now, too.
So it's like, do I spend my whole Sunday watching football or do I spend time with my kids?
How old are they?
I have an almost three-year-old and a nine-month-old son.
Oh, wow.
You're in the thick of it.
A son and a daughter.
And, yeah, it's like, you know, I just want to hang with my kids.
And I'm like, if there's a game I really want to watch, I DVR it,
and then I watch it, fast-forward through the commercials,
and it's the best.
I've never – I don't have kids.
So I've never had to do something like that.
Like, I don't know what I would do.
Like give up your time?
No, no, no, no, no. I'm talking about
recording a game and watching it later.
I don't know that I would...
Maybe a Bruins
playoff game or something like that.
I know
even less so because I know
I can find out the answer now.
I'm going to sit there and not...
I could find out whether the Mets
won this playoff game right now,
but I'm going to wait for a couple hours.
I think if it was a game seven.
It's pretty fun to do it, to fast forward the commercials.
Like it's certain things for me.
Like when Baker Mayfield got traded to Tampa and then I got a chance to watch,
I'm like, oh, I want to see what he does.
You know, I could find out if he wins, but I'd like to see what he does,
what happens, you know?
Yeah.
You would watch a game seven on –
I think we'll get –
Stay off your phone, obviously.
I'm a hockey guy, so, like, the intensity of that –
there's a chance it's my last game of the season.
Yeah, I'd want to see it.
Yeah, because, you know, YouTube now you can go
and you can watch the highlights of the whole game.
So you can watch –
Yeah, right.
So I can watch – you know, I can get caught up on the whole Sunday just by watching those highlights.
But if it's a game you really want to watch.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I actually also hate the YouTube highlights because they're like 20 minutes long.
It's like this is as long as the game is.
Like SportsCenter, they used to give it to you in like 45 seconds, a minute and a half, something like that.
Yeah, SportsCenter, it is a shame what happened to it.
SportsCenter used to be the best. I was thinking about
the duos,
the anchors.
Like,
they're some of the funniest
people ever.
Oh, so great.
Like, right up there
with comics.
Like, they were writing
their own,
or somebody,
I don't know if it was them
or ESPN.
No, they were writing it.
To me, that's writing material.
Yeah.
There was like
a making the band
for SportsCenter.
Yeah, there was one
where it was like
you can become an anchor and they had to write theirCenter. Yeah, yeah. There was one that won the – You could become an anchor.
They had to write their own jokes.
2009 to 2011, I was running around selling pesticides, SiriusXM.
I would do Mike and Mike in the morning, Colin Cowherd, Scott Van Pelt, Doug Gottlieb, all day.
These guys are so funny.
Yeah.
So entertaining.
The 90s duos where it was like you know they they were like tag team wrestling
yeah it was like they didn't really you know they would mix and match a little bit but for the most
part it was like you know these guys are together you know this guy's catchphrase oh yeah the
commercials were funny yeah i'm not a baseball guy but i could watch those guys baseball highlights
all day yeah yeah all day baseball highlights are arguably the best. You see a ball get hit 10 miles
or a strikeout or a great web gem.
That's a good...
I think baseball has the best highlights.
Basketball,
you can see some cool shit in basketball.
Basketball, I actually would say.
You're not a basketball guy.
You don't appreciate the
greatness. It's like the 7-foot-tall guy dunked.
Congratulations.
You sound so dumb when you say that.
We still have to get you that little Tykes.
Yeah.
I can watch some, like, on TikTok,
watch some, like, 80s, 90s basketball highlights all day.
I love it.
I sound like a very white guy, but I'm like,
I can watch Larry Bird pass the ball all day.
It was against the Hawks, the game where he only shot lefty.
That's the coolest thing I've ever heard of him.
Bird, and again, I grew up in Massachusetts with my dad.
Larry Bird is God.
So he would tell me all the trash-talking stories.
Oh, yeah.
But I just saw one recently that i hadn't heard before where they
were playing the nets i forget who they had played beforehand but it was a back-to-back
there they were somewhere in the in middle america and there was snowing so the plane
couldn't get out of off the ground they finally get to jersey like two hours before the game
they've been sitting in the airport all day just eating airport it's like it's actually crazy to think too like 40 years ago like it wasn't every player had an individualized doctor
and plan like yeah yeah it was like like get here on time and they were sitting they were flying
commercial sitting in the airport with a delayed flight eating sabaro waiting to go play nba
basketball and i don't know the point guard's name who was on the nets at this time but bird
they finally they got dressed and they're in the locker room,
and Bird's like, let's go take out today on these fucks.
And he goes up to the point guard right before a tip.
He goes, hey, sorry about what's about to happen.
I've been eating hot dogs all day.
Oh, yeah.
And then dropped like 40 on him.
That's fucking amazing.
I love that stuff.
Like the old, you'll see guys on the sidelines smoking
cigarettes.
Dick Trickle was a NASCAR
driver and there's a clip of him
smoking a cigarette in the NASCAR.
That picture right there, Keith Hernandez
smoking a cig in the dugout.
I love that.
80s baseball.
Forget about it. Drinking beers in the
clubhouse, probably doing blow.
I love that stuff.
There's a movie called Ip Man.
I don't know if you've ever watched that.
It's like a really great kung fu movie.
But it's like these two guys are about to fight each other.
They eat food.
They sit down.
They have a cigarette.
And then they go, all right, let's fight.
It's so great.
To the death or just a fight?
Just a fight.
Just to, you know.
That was a big thing in hockey.
Hockey, they've been trying to kind of slowly get rid of fighting.
And one of the rules they came up with in order to stop it was you can't take your own helmet off.
Because guys would just drop the gloves, take the helmet off, start fighting.
So they're like, if you can't take your helmet off, then you're not going to want to punch a helmet.
So there'll be less fighting.
And I don't know if they realized the loophole quickly in preseason
or if it lasted a full season, but the guys would just go up to each other.
Take each other's helmets off.
Ah, yeah.
Well, I just went to a Preds game.
Now we go.
I went to a Preds game, two scores in the first quarter period,
whatever it's called.
And I'm not a hockey guy, but I went to the game.
Two scores and a fight.
First period.
That's what I'm talking about.
That's what I'm talking about.
It's a goal-assisted fight.
How about this dude on the Rangers who just kept fighting and kept losing?
Matt Rempe.
But everybody loved him because he kept – he's getting his ass kicked out, right?
No, I haven't followed that closely. The highlights that i've seen he's always getting his face punched in
but they're just like it's awesome man yeah he definitely had a black he had at least one black
eye so i mean he's taking some hits i i i haven't seen enough of the fights to know how they were
decided it was like five in a row yeah yeah you fight every night yeah like okay let's go you
ever see the movie goon i actually have not with sean william yeah. Yeah, I mean, that's what he is. He's
bad at hockey, I guess, but he's the guy that
starts the fights. Is there a
comedy equivalent of a hockey
goon?
I don't know.
I mean, you know, maybe
Ralphie May was that kind of guy. I mean, he
would really go at people. I don't know.
Rich Voss, maybe?
Yeah.
Rich Voss is always yelling at somebody i saw rich i opened for rich voss years ago at zany's and this lady was kept heckling him
and then he and he's like i don't want to make fun of you and she's like bring it
and uh she was a little bit of a you know a heavier woman and he you know he really lights into he goes you don't want me to bring it but heavier woman and he really lights into her.
He goes, you don't want me to bring it.
But then he does.
He really lights into her and he goes, I'm sorry.
He goes, that was too far.
I shouldn't have done that.
Let me buy you a drink.
What are you having, a meatloaf milkshake?
It's still my favorite line I've ever heard.
It was so good.
Yeah, you don't want it, man.
I know.
So the special is on Netflix, Working Man.
Very funny.
And so you said Nate brought you onto the pod,
so that's like officially a part of it?
Yeah, I'm a co-host.
I've been a co-host for over a year.
It's great.
It's a lot of fun.
Cool. Co-host. I've been a co-host for over a year. Yeah. It's great. So, yeah. It's a lot of fun.
Cool.
Yeah, it works out well because, you know, Nate has to miss more than he used to now because he's, you know, incredibly successful.
So, yeah. So I kind of fill in for Nate. Nate's one of those guys.
I'm going to get something here because I was on a crusade for a long time to try to find something about Dwayne the Rock Johnson that was unlikable.
Okay.
Or sometime that he pissed somebody off or did something, and you'd be hard-pressed to find it.
What's something that Nate Bargatze has done?
Let's get Nate Bargatze canceled.
I think it's impossible.
I know him fairly well.
He's a very nice guy, and I really don't know anything bad about him.
He's not a pain, man.
It's crazy.
Yeah, I mean, you know, and I even hear things, just nice things that he does for people.
He really cares about his fans.
He cares about comedy.
It's crazy.
Yeah, I mean.
He's perfect.
He really is a nice guy.
It's crazy uh yeah i mean he's perfect he's such a nice guy yeah i mean so nice that like i'm
a pretty nice guy but even i want to go in on people on the comment section of the nateland
podcast sometimes you know and i'm like nate would never do that he would never consider
but i'm like i can't wait to do it and i'm a pretty nice guy but uh you know i'm a little rough around the edges at times
and even like you know when back when he was partying and tearing it up it was it was still
always wholesome like it was and now it's just you know yeah i mean it's perfect yeah i mean i
think he was a real partier but you know i was you know i was blacking out three times a week
and uh you know saying awful things to people i was losing two or three friends a week and saying awful things to people.
I was losing two or three friends a week, and I was good at making friends, so it was okay.
I had a turnover rate of friends.
The 20s you don't keep.
The 20s you meet if you're a partier.
The 20s you meet friends, they don't usually, they're not there still at the end.
Yes.
They're like a free agent.
That is true. You pick They're like a free agent. Well, that is true.
You pick them up for your partying.
To be a good alcoholic, I think, like that,
you just need one buddy that's also like you.
Yes.
And then you can do whatever you want.
It's your road dog.
The other friends are collateral damage.
It doesn't matter.
You and this guy are just, you get kicked out of the bar, he lives with you, he doesn't matter you and this guy are just you get kicked out of the bar he lives with
you he doesn't care yeah you'll get kicked out just because you've been kicked out and i had
that friend and we're not really friends now so you're right i quit drinking and he kept going
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