KFC Radio - Josh Smith and Stephen A Smith Might Just Run for President and VP in the Next Election

Episode Date: May 15, 2025

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Hey, KFC radio listeners, you can find every episode of KFC radio on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. Just because we're on a predominantly white podcast, we not going to find ways to give Tom Thibodeau credit. I'm not doing it. Bro, wait, by the way, just for the record, it's an even match right now. It's three on three.

This room is not predominantly white right now. Let me tell you how Tom Thibodeaux got us. All right, we got we got the boy Josh Smith in the building who? Mr. Nixon five himself Nixon five And she's you for like labeling me that cuz I don't get my credit. I you've been saying Nixon five since Since since period exactly Nixon five for anything happened any wins any injuries, anything you've been saying, Nixon 5. I'm just trying to be a prophet. I'm just trying to be right.

Who you like? Who your team? Oh, my team? I'm a Nixon fan. Oh, alright. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a Celtics fan. He already spoke about you before you even got here.

I said you're a Celtics fan. You're more a hockey football guy. But you are a Celtics fan. If you're asking me who I want to win the NBA championship, it's the Celtics. Do I live and die by them? No. Right. Okay, but you are. If you're asking me who I want to win the NBA championship, it's the Celtics. Do I live and die by them? No. Right.

Okay. Right. Now, I actually, because I've kind of been following the Tatum injury since it happened, I actually don't understand what all the hollow blue was about that night. What do you mean? I mean, he tore his Achilles. He'll be out a year, and then he'll be back. People tear their Achilles all the time.

I mean, he's been- It's a bummer this season, it's a bummer, but like when people are like, the Saltix franchise is done, why? I think the only thing is that they, I mean, it doesn't actually affect Tatum because Tatum ain't going anywhere, but they got to shake, they have too much money on the books. So it's gonna have to change.

And when all of a sudden you lose a year of your franchise guy, that might be like, all right, let's just blow, like we'll blow it up a year early lose a year of your franchise guy that might be like, all right, let's just blow like we blow it up a year earlier. We'll let this go or that go because yeah, I don't I imagine most of the guys, I don't know anything about basketball, so please correct me if I'm wrong. But the I just feel like the guys who are kind of like the hired assassins, like the poor Zingas and stuff like they'll probably be those guys go and you keep your core and you ride it out of here What I think the real thing is is that it's more

With with with Cleveland like obviously already about getting bounced they might not be the powerhouse They were looking like with Tatum out Yannis influx like the East is wide open now Yeah, so I think if you're looking for Yannis or if you are the Knicks if you're like now is the time to go You know what I mean? Yeah, I mean're like, now is the time to go. You know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, I don't even want to get to next season because we, we, we still got this season to play for. But yeah, like we ain't in right in the mix of things and we might be the favorite to win it all right now. Now we're getting ahead of ourselves.

You got somebody being better than us. No, I like, I like, I like where you see, here's the thing. Are you, are you a New York sports fan through and through or just the Knicks away? No, I like the Knicks Giants Okay, so I'm on the other side of things. I'm an I'm a Mets Jets guy So my life as a sports fan has never really been so great So I don't get ahead of myself often, you know, I like to always I was just saying last episode I never expect my teams are ever gonna win So I don't like to be talking like we are the best team.

No one's better than us and all that shit. Even though so as a Giants and the Yankees fan, I kind of know when it's coming. I see I see when the champion you're a profit and we hear that we end up we've arrived as Jalen Brunson led Knicks. And since you don't really watch basketball, we're going to try to compare it to baseball. You are baseball. I watch baseball. So this is like Jason Tatum getting hurt is like Aaron Judge getting hurt right so it's like they gotta let somebody go because

they spend so much money so now next year you're down the person you gotta let go and Jason Tatum oh yeah you're gonna win next year like he's like what 26 yeah he was older too like you're fucked but he'll be back yeah Yeah, he'll be back. And you're like, you'll have. It is weird how many people are tearing Achilles though. I feel like Durant, him, Kobe, Lillard, Aaron Rodgers, like, that's a lot of- Yeah, all vaxxed. All vaxed. Everybody got that jab, bro. So you watching that basketball though, I want to ask you a question. If Jason Tatum decided like,

forget it, I don't like the way my Achilles feel, I'm done. Right now, up to this point, you taking his career or Lucas? Or Lucas? Yeah. I take Tatum's. You take Tatum's? Yeah. Wow.

NBA champion's got the ring. So this is what I feel about the rings and stuff like that I don't really value. I don't put too much value into it because it's circumstantial. I mean you're 100% right. I completely agree with that. But like at the end of the day when when you're recounting someone's career, it's gonna be one of the first things you mentioned. And also it's circumstantial for like a lot of guys on the team, not like the guy. I mean, when they went head to head, Luca and Tatum, they were the guys and Tatum gets it done.

You know what I mean? If you're off the bench, you're whatever, you're not, you're a role player. You shouldn't be touting your rings, but when it's like, that's his ring, Jalen Brown's ring, those are like, they earned that shit. Over the guy you're talking about. Cause when it comes to the rings and stuff like that, right? When we, when we, when we focus on the losers, like usually LeBron, he's four and six in the finals.

In the six finals that he lost, it's like I led the entire series and everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And in the media, they'll talk about me, but you're not going to talk about Booby Gibson who had 10 points, Varajay who had five, and I'm killing and I'm the reason we lost though. Dude, he shouldn't have even been in those finals. Right. You know what I mean? Like he carried a bunch of bums there and then gets penalized for losing.

And then gets penalized for losing. I get what you're talking about, but in that case of those two guys who are like They went head-to-head one has a ring one doesn't they were both the leaders of the team. Same era, same everything. I'm taking Tatum. I don't know, I just feel like Tatum just got placed into the situation where Jalen Brown's dead. It is, no doubt. Kyrie was dead.

Yeah, it's a good situation. Marcus Smart was dead. And when you don't have Marcus Smart now, you got Drew Holliday. So you're swapping all defensive players for all defensive players that can score 20 as well. Then you get Pizingas, a seven foot seven, three point shooter.

So it's like you get in place in this situation and then Luke is going to the finals with Gafford, lively. People that you haven't heard of since he's left. So it's like- I agree with like a hundred percent. Like, you know, I'm a Boston guy. So like when Brady came in, Brady had Willie McGinnis, Brady had Teddy Bruce.

Always had all-stars squad. It all is circumstantial, but you gotta be the guy who puts it over the top. I Agree, but this dish it like this NBA is just like so superstar driven and they team up So it's like if you don't team up and you don't have rings, I don't penalize you I'm going to what you did individually and I see Luca going seasons averaging 34 points a game It's just like being number two all-time and playoff points per game and stuff like that. Triple doubles. You just can't really question what it is he does. Like I give Luca all the credit in the world. They try to say he's out of shape.

Man, fuck all this Luca talk. What about Jalen Brunson? What about Jalen Brunson? Let's get back on track, bro. That's his ex-teammate. But what I'm saying Luke had been like, oh, he's so out of shape. I want McHale Ridges to be out of shape, eat a few burgers. Right, right. Mitchell Robinson, you go up to the block, you go to Fridays too, you get out of shape. Out of shape, get you 36 and 10.

You can be out of shape, let's all get out of shape. Let's go eat. Before you came in, we were watching Josh's uncle is Jack in his style. So the other day he appeared, so Josh is Stephen Smith's nephew and was on his show the other day and he had a towel on under his hat. And Stephen A was like, get that fucking, get that stupid towel off your head. And then the next appearance he makes on TV, he's got the towel on his head. So I said, cut the check, man.

It's been happening my whole life. Like y'all getting a late view of what's been going on. Even my neighborhood, my school, I'm always like influence you. And it's just happening. It doesn't matter who you are, apparently, whatever you are, you see what I do, you're gonna start to follow it a little bit.

So Steve, so Uncle Steve has been jacking your style for years now? Yeah, he tries. I mean, you can't pull off some of the things I do cause we double, he's double my age, but whatever he can try to figure out, like, oh, let me throw a towel on my head on first take. Yeah, it's my style.

You like it. I mean, in that regard, I do have to congratulate you on your a hundred million dollar contract cause you guys are kind of, you know, you earned it. Yeah. I know, you know, you were sure you were heavy instrumental in that. Yeah. You guys both worked hard on it. Yeah, for sure. And so what like you've been making kind of like these, I guess, guest appearances, right? You kind of you pop on and just spit your shit. Is that was that how'd that come about? Were you like, did he ask you to do that?

Did you just crash the show? So I'm gonna expose it here. And you know, people might be mad at me, like, why you went on his show and talked about it? You brought me on and talked about it. That's right. You asked the question. So I was headed to the Knicks game.

He calls me on some uncle nephew stuff, like, oh, I'm shooting a show, if you just wanna come by, it's right in New Jersey. I'm like, I know where the Knicks game. He calls me on some uncle nephew stuff, like, oh, I'm shooting a show. If you just want to come by, it's right in New Jersey. I'm like, I know where the show is at. You want me to come in for the Knicks game? I'm coming. And the reason I came is because a water in the garden is $11.

So you can imagine a drink. So he has a bar in his studio. So I'm like, I'm going to go there and get a little saucy before the game so I'm going to spend my actual money. And I also indulge in, I'ma go there, and get a little saucy before the game so I'm gonna spend my actual money. And I also indulge in, you know, a little, I think it was 420, was it 420? Even if it wasn't. Even if it wasn't.

I was in the car with the windows up. So that influence was there. Then I got there, so I got the drinks flowing and the you know what. You can say it. I don't want to, I don't want to. And the you know what, and then he's like, oh, would you like to get mic'd up?

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Bluechew for our sponsoring for sponsoring the podcast. It's bluechew.com promo code KFC. Me and Josh were talking about doing like a first take a skip and Stephen A Smith type thing. Ebony and Ivory black guy and white guy first take type show. That's you know, like the Barstool way like not as corny, not as legit, not as you know, we just let it rip and say, I want the hundred million. So I'm not, I'm not repeating what he said.

I don't agree with him. That's why you won't say, you know what? You know what? You know what? Stay away from them. Yeah. No, I think we were discussing, uh, we were discussing some of the differences in black guys and white guys.

I think you said you need like a, you need like a clean cut white guy. I need a funny black guy. I mean, when I come ahead, it does fit the description of, yeah. Yeah, it's exactly what I had in mind. Exactly what I had in mind. First of all, we was in here, and my camera man pointed out, he was like, yo, the guy that just walked by, I think he's the producer. I'm like, yeah, so what happened? He's like, he doesn't have shoes

Yes, that's that's You guys saw I snuck yeah, I was like Like slippers like so I thought so, you know, he's pretty stylish So I thought he was wearing some sort of like Snickers on I stepped in a massive puddle It was pretty funny though. He was like you know doing whatever he does he's plugging shit in we were looking for some drinks He's just kind of puttering around and I was like I never think to even look is anybody's feet, but he's like Freedom speech freedom but he's like, freedom of speech, freedom of freedom of

feet. I'm gonna need another one of these. So this is a drink. This is a drink that way you created this. Yes, sir. I mean, so I've been drinking espresso martinis forever, man. Back when it was not popular. Everyone called it a girly drink. Everyone said I was gay, lame, whatever. And all of a sudden fast forward a decade and it's like the most popular cocktail in the world. And so I don't know, have you ever had this before? This one pink Whitney? That's another drink that another vodka based drink that our hockey podcast did. It's like a lemonade, lemon vodka, like flavored thing. And that

blew the fuck up. And so I'm trying to get on that level. It's funny that you grew hockey up, right? I'm total novice, but I do have a question. Only I watch hockey? Everybody here watches hockey? This is your guy. You're the hockey guy? Yeah.

So I just want to know, like when you see an NBA fight and then the NBA players are labeled like, oh, he's out of, Draymond Green, for example. Yeah. Cool, Draymond Green, he keeps it you know, he keeps it 80s on the court. But he's so villainized. But then on ESPN, they'll they'll show a 12 second hockey fight with a ref is like, kind of just like, oh, let's see who's gonna win.

I now break it up. Why is it okay in that? And we can't duke it out a little bit. Well, it's in the rules. What's the rules you can fight in hockey straight up a lot I agree with you I agree with the essence of what you're saying But like if someone full-on spear tackled someone at mid-court you did why can they do it in football? Like it's in the rules. So what I'm saying is though the media is still the media The media has their rules that they got to go by so why is

the media. The media has their rules that they got to go by. So why is one fight okay, and the other fight's not okay? I don't care about the rules. The media covering it got their rules too. So when the hockey players are fighting and it's on ESPN, it's a little cool segment. It's like, oh shit, they're fighting. When the guys is fighting, it's like, yo, look, he has a problem. Maybe he needs to go to counseling or something like that I just want to know like what can we normalize a little aggression like You got you got to talk to Adam Silver. You got to legalize the rule. You got to legalize fighting. I actually think it would be, I think every sport kind of needs that. Like when shit is getting chippy and you reach like a fever pitch, like get it out and be

done. Like back in the day, like when you used to be able to like really like rock somebody with like a flagrant foul. Like a little eight seconds. Like- Right. And then, you know, you catch a flagrant, whatever it may be, you get right back on the court. Let's go. That one right there, you didn't really do it right.

I almost choked on the ice. You know what? You can shake your fucking own one next time. The shaker's broken so the ice came through. It's smooth enough that the ladies ain't really gonna make a face at the end of it. I just want to know what the end result is going to be, how it makes them feel after two, three, and then I can really. They'll be feeling good.

Well, it's fine. After you finish your third, you gotta do our test driving. See? See, look, that's the difference in podcasts, because if we was somewhere else, they'd be like, oh, he's encouraging drunk driving. He's just funny right now. So let me ask you this, like you and your uncle are, you know, obviously partners, basically

50 50. So do you kind of like inherit all his beef? Is it like, like if you run into LeBron James, what happens right now? Nothing. You know why? Because players and anybody that sees me know that my freedom of speech is so free You don't want these problems You don't want these problems and that's just not like your speech is not like just too free for them They know not to fuck. Yeah, it's not just a LeBron thing. That's other podcasters Anything who else throw some names on it? Whoever I'm talking... I got shades on so I was really looking at your eyes. I'm talking to anybody. It's like if you want a problem

All we doing is talking that's what podcasting is so who talks better than me and I have the freedom To really say what I want. I'm related to him, but I'm not signed to anybody. So watch your mouths because I'm gonna respond Have you discussed what your potential cabinet position would be when he runs for president? Yeah. Yeah? What kind of role are you going to have? VP?

And the reason I would be the VP is because everything he is, I'm not. He's like, he'd be the first, like that other side, the side with Trump and them, they'd be with him. The other side would be with me. Okay. So I don't even know what you would call that. We wouldn't be Democrats because I guess I would be more

on the Democrat side and he would be whatever he likes to be. He says, what does he call it? So you're not putting a label on it. He doesn't like to put a label on it. Yeah, he likes to label. Exactly. Label-less. He be label-less. I be Democrat because that's what they tell us. They look out for us supposedly. So well, it's like MJ said all those years ago, though, Republicans buy sneakers too. You said MJ? Yeah. Back in the day, people wanted MJ say which which party he was in Democrat Republican whatever and Jackson or Jordan Jordan and he said well Republicans buy sneakers, too

So like I'm not trying to piss anybody off because I got to sell these sneakers to everybody So you got to keep everybody? On the Smith ticket the Smith Smith ticket. Yeah, I mean we got all sides like with me. I'm the ultimate like wild card joker type wherever we want to go. I could be the one because again I'm not I have no alliances. Freedom of speech is too free. Freedom of speech. Did you see Stephen A Smith on Law and Order? No. Yeah. Yeah. He made his I think his acting debut or at least his law and order debut. He was playing like a

sports agent. I think was young S. V. O. I think so. No, no, no, it was a long order. No, Eddie really. I was gonna say you tell him that and they killed him. He was he was freedom of speech against anybody. That's gotta be so you gotta have like your your own show or something coming up. That's got to be, so you, you got to have like your, your own show or something coming

up. It's got to be called freedom of speech. Why do you feel like that? Y'all, y'all the ones that boss tools make the call for me. Well listen, we've, we've, we've had some success with, uh, you know, like outside people coming in and doing, you know, partnering up and whatnot. It is. Mm-hmm. Yeah. You're not even talking that talk. I was, let me put my business like that.

I was waiting for this conversation to come up, because I'm just like, I'm just like, I know I could do this. Why, why, why not me? Last time we had this convo on these couches, Cam'ron hired me to be his hockey assistant. That's right. And he never called me once. Yo, you know, I'll tell you something funny about Cameron.

Cameron came in here, this is right, this is before they even started, it is what it is. And they were talking with Barstool. And I am a big fan of that era of hip hop. So like, I was pushing for hard cam, mace, whatever I was like, sign these fucking guys. Not to cut you off. Can I get a camera on boss and she was, that was your favorite? Let me let me hear camera on my favorite camera On bar is the computers Putin

We we all complain about that as a black culture, so you gotta give me another long Give me one more Fire! Come on! Give me one more! You gotta give me one more! Putting me on the spot here, man. You said that's your favorite, like right there! No, I said that error, I mean listen, I had the Confessions of Fire album with him on the cover and that fucking...

The overalls with the hammer or whatever. I remember that one and what was your favorite track on it? I was, was that Horse and Carrot is on there? Alright, Horse and Carrot! Fuck outta here! Fuck outta here! Yo! Listen, can you see me? Hold him out here! Yo, listen, Cam, you see me.

I'm out. Fuck you, man. But, so they were... Cam came in here full suit, right? Yeah. He was super polite, very gracious, very funny, the whole nine. But that was when we were like talking, like maybe they would sign here. And I think their price tag was a little bit too high for us. Obviously they went and got the bag and as soon as they

did never heard from Cam again. I mean, we were texting, we were talking, he was like shouting us out. He was giving us love and then, and then, you know, went a different direction and never again, which I mean, it was funny to watch. I mean, I'm not going to act like, you know, if I come here and me and you have a talk and I'm like, I feel like my worth is like 1.5. I mean, Steven A got a hundred million and I'm always writing- Whoa, whoa, whoa, I thought that was a you guys,

a we thing. I feel like you got a hundred, you got 50 million. Yeah, but I'm talking about- So you don't need 1.5, you might have to pay me. No, if I'm here with you, we talking 20 minutes a month. I need 1.5, that's- 20 minutes a month. I need 1.5, that's- 20 minutes a month?

Yeah, break it up into 10 minute, two minute YouTube clips and stuff like that. My clips go crazy. You get paid off. And you want 1.5 for that. 1.3. Hey, you got me, all right. You making me drinks and stuff like that.

I drop a point or two. I buddy you up. Yeah. And these are your boys or this is business or what? Cameraman and my manager over there. So he listening real hard. He got his hand on his chin. And he was on the phone and he perked up real quick.

Yeah. 1.5. What's my cut? 10%? You got golden slippers. You got to pay for that. I saw it. So yeah, I mean, he's coming in with the golden slippers. You gotta pay for that. Yeah, I seen it. I saw it. So yeah, I mean, he's coming in with the fancy slippers.

I got barefoot guys. Yeah, you guys pay up. I got barefoot producers. Yeah, you gotta be sleeping here. Come on. I pay to get our couches in here. Big shit is good, man. If you're an hour early,

how's that a night cap on? See, look. Have you followed Barstool at all? Do you know Portnoy? I'm gonna be honest. No, he's he's like the founder of this place and he's a big time Boston guy, big time Celtics guy. And he was talking after game three. He was laughing. He was I mean, between him, Jay Williams, Felger and Maz. Felger and Maz were downright disrespectful. Did you see them? I mean- That's what they do. Actually, it's usually exclusively against Boston sports teams. Yeah, this was almost like they were like, the Knicks are garbage. They're a garbage franchise.

They always have been. They were yesterday, they were five days ago, they were five months ago, they were 50 years ago. I mean, they were going in. I've never, I don't know. I mean, people really don't like the Knicks. I feel like it's a big time anti-Knicks thing. I mean, we're pretty loud and I've never, I don't know. I mean, people really don't like the Knicks. I feel like that's a big time anti-Knicks thing. I mean, we're pretty loud and obnoxious.

I get that. It's a New York thing. But that's what it is. It's not that you don't like the Knicks. You don't like New York. Yeah. And it kinda like translates into the fandom and stuff like that because New Yorkers are the Knicks fans.

Yeah. That's why when you see me at the game, couple days ago, Jalen Brown shooting around, I'm right on his back. I got the Stephen A access now, it's over. Were you on the wood? Yeah, he shoot, I'm like, miss! As loud as possible right there, he got his earpiece in, but I'm trying,

you know I'm screaming miss in your fucking, in your ear. I can curse that? Yeah, you can say whatever you want, bro. Why, you should tell me that to me. Freedom of speech, dude. Mr. Freedom of speech, you can say whatever you want. I am Mr. Freedom Yeah, because I'm a cat ring bar, bro. Why? Freedom of speech, dude. Mr. Freedom of speech. You can say whatever you want. I am Mr. Freedom of speech.

You know, you see, I say that. And then, you know, I'm the only black guy on the podcast. You know, I want to be Jermon Green. Can we get this a little closer? I'm starting to feel my drink a little bit. One more, too. But yeah, nah. How old are you?

36. 36. Yeah. So I've been an adult twice. So it's like. B 36. 36. Yeah. So I've been an adult twice. So it's like- Bars, man. Yeah. So it's like, I'm ready.

I came on. If I would've got this exposure 10 years ago- Yeah, I was gonna say, what you been doing? I'd have been in trouble by now. What you been doing? What happened in your first adulthood? Regular people stuff. And that's what it's like with Steven A is like,

oh, he don't do shit. What do you mean I had a regular job? What was your job? You mean I was regular? Like, you know, hospitals here and there, just what a regular person that didn't go to college. I said, what did you do? He said hospitals. That's a building, bro. That's not a job. You just mentioned a building. Are you a doctor? Are you a nurse? What are you, bro? See, this is what happens when you're on the podcast with white people. They act like they don't know. They act like they don't know there's lower tier jobs in the hospital where you can do plenty of those jobs. It's a doctor Smith.

When you're a surgeon. It's crazy. See? What was your job? Hospitals. I'm saying it's 18 occupations in a hospital. Is that an accurate number? Yeah. He's 18 occupations in a hospital. Is that an accurate number? Yeah.

He's just making shit up. All right. Come on. Give me all 18 of them. Go. No, I'm not going to give you all 18. I'm going to do what I want. Give me five.

But when you go to the hospital and you have to use the bathroom, isn't it somebody different that cleans the bathroom from somebody that's bringing you the tray? So you were cleaning the bathrooms? No. I'm just saying that that's an occupation in the hospital. Sounds like that was your occupation. No, it wasn't. It wasn't.

Why would I have that when I'm related to the guy that's the king of doing what you guys are trying to do? That's right. I mean, he really is, man. Right, you see? Watch your mouth. I just told you, freedom of speech. Ain't nobody going to say nothing to me and not get a response.

Move this mic a little closer. I'm realizing I got to be swift with y'all. Rob Markman He is kind of him and a couple others, but really I believe him. He made athlete money doing talking sports. In this new world, if you're not... it pays to be good at what he's doing almost more so than some most of the guys on the court You know what I mean? Unless you're the top of the top It's better to be behind a desk behind a mic talking about that shit than out there playing it and you can do it until

You're 80 there any five ready right me being 36 looking at the next 36 years of my life I'm like this all I gotta do how old is he? How does he? Yeah? 57 and he has what's the really your like your Father or mother's brother or my mother's mother's brother. Yeah, so I'm I was born in 88 Obviously I'm black so my uncle's raised our uncles raised us, you know, the father's just waiting did what they had to do So Stephen is like that father what they wanted to do, huh? So Stephen A is like your father figure? What they wanted to do. Huh? So Steven A is like your father figure you said? Yeah.

Yeah. Where are you from? House, Queens, New York. How come you're not a Mets fan? Why would I be a Mets fan? Cause Mets up. Nah we originally, my grandfather and my grandmother, they came from the islands and moved to the Bronx.

So that's why they Yankee fans. I was born in the Bronx but I'm a Mets fan so we're opposite. Why are you a Mets then? My grandfather hated the double, the designated hitter. He was like, that's not real. No, I didn't know that. That's awesome. You say he's a designated hitter? Your grandfather? What? Your grandfather?

My grandfather did not like the designated hitter rule in baseball. So he was like, I'm not rooting for an AL team. Dude, that's so awesome. I'm only going in. Fuck the day. And it ruined my guy. Because my grandfather was a stickler for one fucking rule that doesn't even exist anymore. By the way, I mean, I agreed with him.

I do think it's a stupid rule, but I would never have like, I don't know if it was a coin flip at the time. I probably I don't know, man. He picked a fucking bad team. I mean, you know, they were terrible when they first expanded. And he was like, Yep, now fuck that one rule. I'm gonna ride with them ruined generations of our family. I mean, you got your you got your own kids now. Yeah. Start

your own legacy. Switch over. I thought about that. I really did. I've talked about on the podcast many times when they're they're they're nine and almost nine and 10 now. So that's already been decided. But when they were young young, I really was thinking to myself, I don't know if I'm going to make them a fan of the Mets and Jets. But I would say with the way the Mets are headed right now and the way the Giants have been for the last decade now.

Excuse me? It's not exactly... Yeah, you heard me. Giants are one of the worst fucking franchises in football last several years. You're a Jets fan? Yes, sir. How old are you? We're in the same goddamn boat. I'm 40. 40? Yeah. Watch your mouth when you speak into your elders, man. I'm 40. I'm trying to do the math, so y'all want a chip win. Since chips is what we spoke about earlier, and that's what y'all like so much. You're talking about the Jets? Yes. Have you seen the Jets shit? 69 40. No, right?

I was born in 85. You ain't even see one. Close dog. I've never seen anything. Wait, so the Mets won in 85. Six. So I was one. I don't remember that.

So I've never seen a championship. I've been to the World Series a couple of times, been to the championship with the Knicks, what? Once in 99, right? And the Jets, nothing, never. So me, I'm an expert in the world. I'm an expert in the world. I'm an expert in the world.

I'm an expert in the world. I'm an expert in the world. I'm an expert in the world. I'm an expert in the world. I'm an expert in the world. I'm an expert in the world. series a couple of times been to the championship with the Knicks what once in 99 right and the Jets nothing never. So me I'm a Nick fan and because I was like really like let down let down for a good two decades I started to gravitate towards players like the Knicks is my team. That's a fancy way of saying you're a Fairweather fan. No, it's not. It's like, oh, I'm a Steph Curry fan. Because I know you're a tight. You play any ball? When I was fucking young.

That means no. What do you do? When they try to cut. When they try to cut. You play pick up with DuVoise at the Y. You play ball. I'm just saying, if me, you, and some other podcasters went and you was guarding me, I'd look like one of those guys.

Ha ha ha. Now, you versus Gillie, who wins one on one? Right now, Gillie play a lot Gilly go man All right. I like the honesty because he was smoky me against you. I've not seen you play yet, but Gilly Gilly can fucking hoop man Yeah, he said My I don't like giving that up. So he's I don't know if Gilly gonna beat me but the ball Let's extend the offer right now challenge Gilly right now one on one Now I can't afford to get hurt. I ain't get hurt. I didn't really clear to 50 million.

I know you've seen the last show. You gotta worry about that half a contract. Yeah, I gotta worry about that. Gilly got paid. He'll be here on the cast sitting on the couch and still doing podcasts. I need to get paid first. But so you basically became a bandwagon,

fair weather fan, cause the Knicks were bad. I get it. Nah. Like I said, I was a player, so you just gravitate to people that might look like you on the court. Who do you- All time?

Who plays like you, I can say. That's why I love Scalabrine. Play like Scalabrine? You feel like that? That's the only guy we could play like. I was impressed by Scalabrine. I like Scalabrine. You so into GBC.

Yup. With George Messiah? I would do some shit like that. If I was an NBA player that wasn't really one of the top ones and people talk shit online, meet up with me at the Y. Meet up with me at the Y. I got a membership. Yeah, man. That's one of the all time great, when he did it way back and then when he did recently with George, it was fucking all time, man.

Yeah. Nah, you got to do that. But wait, so who would you model your game after? Let me see. Who you look like. I'm left handed. I'm left handed. So I'm not, I would say Harden, but Harden is like all world.

I wouldn't say that. Brunson? You out here drawing the facts? No, Brunson is, I call him Michael Jalen Brunson. Dude, he really is. I mean, he's starting to get his credit, but I think he's still underrated. Like he is doing literally Jordan type shit with those fourth quarter numbers and clutch buckets.

Like he is that good I don't think people realize that yet. They're gonna realize it when we eliminate the Celtics tonight and um Next series he's not even gonna get the credit for being a paces because everybody's already putting it out there Like oh the Nick should beat the paces which by the way is not I mean they fucking smoked Cleveland like they're they're playing ball right now That's not like a cakewalk They should I hope I think if they can beat the Celtics you can beat the Pacers,. That's not like a cakewalk. I hope, I think if they can beat the Celtics, you can beat the Pacers, but it's not like a- See, I knew that the Pacers was gonna cakewalk

over Cleveland. You see, I'm such a basketball, this is the thing I'm just now getting on, so nobody's gonna realize it until a few years in. Everything now just seems like I'm just going against the grain. But Indiana, your point guard is 6'5". Donovan Mitchell is 6'2". That's your 2 guard. So Indiana's point guard is so much bigger than your 2. It's like that's a matchup problem.

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He's not like that, and it's being shown. And now Donovan Mitchell gotta be the one to take the, we just spoke about it. He's gonna average 30 in the series, or the series that's over, he averaged 30, and he's eliminated now, and everybody's gonna blame him. When when you got Jared Allen also and you got Mobley to also neither one of them did much. Yeah, yeah. If you're gonna trade crypto do it the right way none of that sketchy platforms, no sketchy customer support or no customer support at all. There's so many different ways that you

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excluding Washington, New York and Maine through Payward Interactive Inc. But so, you think if the Knicks win this tonight, they go to the finals? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We lost to Indiana last year. It was tough. I know. That's why I'm not ready to look past anybody yet, man.

I am because you have to look into why we lost to Indiana. Randude in play. We have Bridges now. We was depending on- Bro, Mckale Bridges drives me kind of crazy, man. He what? He drives me crazy. Why? Because he's either like the hero, like he'll play 48 minutes and like 43 of those are garbage and then five are like lights out heroic unbelievable game clinching play. And I spend the first half of the game motherfucking him and then down the stretch he's a hero. Just play a full complete game. I mean what do you ask him to do?

Like you said, play a full complete game. Yeah, play a full complete. That's exactly what the fuck he does when Tom Timidale plays him 48 minutes. That's by the way, I'm also getting worried about that as the playoffs going on. I'm supposed to guard the other team's best player all game and look like Kevin Durant on offense. That's true. That's true. Right. So then I have you to but he just takes takes shots sometimes that drive me fucking crazy. And I get it. But then and then he then he probably buckets.

Yeah. All you got to do is be better than a quarter man. All you got to do is be better than Jaylen Brown. Sometimes. Right. Right. Right. Therefore. Also, there's something about rooting for a team. I felt this a little bit with the Mets last year in their playoff run where like they always came back. No lead was too much. Because then as a fan and I'm sure as a player, you're like, you know, we're down by 20 in the third. It doesn't matter because the fourth quarter is coming. And maybe, you know, a lot of people talk about how much Tibbs is running these guys into the ground, but maybe

they're conditioned and ready to go. Josh Hart just won the minutes crown. Like they're not running out of gas, at least yet. Just because we're on a predominantly white podcast, we're not going to find ways to give Tom Thibodeau credit. I'm not doing it. Bro, wait, by the way, just for the record, it's an even match right now. It's three on three. This room is not predominantly white right now.

Let me tell you how Tom Thibodeau got us. Look, his team's finished in the top four every year. Why? I'ma tell you why. He's playing his best plays all game. None of that load management shit. So the other team is making substitutions and shit like that so most of the year,

you're gonna have better nights. But when your team has to last through the playoffs and every night you playing a good team and they preparing for that, and they're playing 10 players against your six, you lose every year. You've never been to the finals. But so are you confident then?

Like, I mean, like we're- I'm saying I think- We're gonna run into that problem again. I think this year, we, it's our year in terms of like things just kind of rolling our way. Yannis gets Dame, but Dame gets hurt. All right, man. You know what we really needed?

What's that? Is we needed to close this out and it would have been nice if like Cavs, Pacers went seven and get some rest there. Because they're gonna, I mean, they're just going to keep playing and they're gonna run into, they're gonna get tired at some point. Look, we bedded in Indiana. It's just about, is the coach gonna coach? Like, I feel like we were so much better than the Celtics

because we was built to actually beat them. Last year, we just happened to lose before we got to the Celtics. But when we had OG, when we had Randall, when we had Brunson, that team right there was 14 to one. We would've beat, we would've beat, we built to beat the that team right there was 14 and one right we would have beat we would have Be we built to beat the Celtics. We got wings to stop they wing. I want to step back Step back threes all game. They're gonna be high at one point. You're not gonna be a hot one point

I will say I'm not I'm not a lot of people have just like counted that the series is over. I'm not doing that You're not doing I I The Celtics are played pretty well without Jason Tatum this year. What, what are you saying? You giving them a chance? I bro, again, I'm coming from the Mets jet side of me dog. I'm not. I can't stand him.

I can't stand to have the, the series is over tonight. I'll be in Manhattan. Stay out here. Stay out here. I'm not going to say that. I can't say that. I cannot say that, man. By the way, I brought my kids to the game on the game three and I was like on Saturday yeah and I because it

was afternoon game and like it's perfect for the kids but I wanted to show them like 7th Avenue blowing up afterwards and like this is what happens in New York when the Knicks win and instead it was like my daughter kept looking at me going the Knicks stink I was gonna go to that game with my dad and I was very happy we didn't cuz I was like that wouldn't even be fun for a Celtics man It was tough. It was you down 20 the whole game. They just kind of sitting in a depressed room with 20,000 people We use you going he said 88 88 30 I'm 30 saying see this is how I know

This is a white and black thing. Cause he said my dad, I'm like, dad, do me over. Like going to the game with your dad. Anyway, it's y'all fault. We lost this y'all. I thought you were saying like, it's like, I, you thought I was going to call him father or something. Just hanging out with one. Just having a dad and being around in general was weird. Doing stuff with your dad. From the 80s, it was just dad. A D word. What was that?

But look, the point is, y'all made us lose game three. I'm outside with the people. Wait, who's y'all, me? The whites? You said you went with your kids. She said the whites. You said you went with your kids. So I'm where we watching the game outside.

People was really- Like that block party or whatever? Yeah. So people really come with their kids. Weed is legalized in New York. Not that I was indulging. But in the area, everybody was smoking. So it'd be somebody like you walking by with his kids.

No, I don't do that. Oh, hey. Whole cloud of smoke hit your kid high. Go either go in the garden or watch it at home because this ain't the atmosphere for you. about with his kids. No, I don't do that. Oh hey. Whole cloud of smoke hit your kid high. Go either go in the garden or watch it at home because this ain't the atmosphere for you. I firmly believe you bring your kids out to these games, these adult things, like they're going to hear some things, they're going to see some things.

That's just how it goes. This guy next to me was motherfucking everybody on the court and I was just like, I'm not going to be that, excuse me, I got my kids. I was motherfucking with him. I was like, this fucking guy. That was game three or game four? That was game four. Because game. I was just saying it. Okay Yeah, no game game three. No, you know, hopefully the the one game that was a clunker

Of course, I was you know rolled out the carpet for them Over the night man, I hope so man. So What what's what's so like are you gonna Be uh, are you gonna I know we joked about bar so on that but like are you gonna be? Are you gonna? I know we joked about bar so on that but like, are you looking to start your own show or you looking to? Are you just going to do things with your uncle you have your own path or what? I'm sorry, my own show.

And, and, and what I want to do is kind of take this immediate thing by storm because it's like a thing of the media don't get along with the athlete and stuff like that. And it's because of your uncle. Because of Stephen A Smith. Just slowly, slowly. Don't throw us in there, by the way. Anybody just when you have when you have an issue with somebody and it's sports, just keep it sports and it won't go nowhere else. When I'm when I'm kind of roasting players, I make sure you know,

cause I'm a sports gambler. Let's give a perfect example. I don't care about having like verbal problems with these people cause you're not gonna do nothing. Bradley Bill came out and said, I don't care about your fucking tickets. The fuck you mean you don't care about our tickets? We're the paying customer.

One, we watching you. You're the reason. We're buying your jerseys. You can't score 15 points? You make $28 million a year. Your job is to score. What are you mad at us for? We picking you. Trust me, we're not picking you to score more than you average.

We always go lower. 15, Bradley Bill. You averaged 30 before. You're letting us down. Did you see Draymond talking about the spread the other night? Oh, what'd he say? He was like, they were reading his lips and it was like down the stretch. I think the game was out of reach one way or the other. I don't remember what the situation was.

He was like, five, we got that. But he said, yeah, he said like, it's five and a half, it's five and a half or whatever it was. And a lot of people were saying like, he's talking about the spread. So he was saying it's five and a half. Was he trying to beat the spread? That's what I couldn't, I only saw that one clip. So I didn't, I didn't watch the full thing. So I don't know if he was saying we got a score or we got to hold them or whatever it

may be, but he was saying to a bunch of people on the court that he's thinking it. Yes. Exactly. If you know the spray five and a half, just try to do something about it. And that just shows me that there was also a clip where Donovan Mitchell had like a wide open layup and he kind of lollygagged it. Like he could have probably dunked it, but he just kind of like laid it up like lazy and somebody blocked it.

And he like looked at him like, what the fuck, man? And it definitely looked like a little bit like, you knew that was supposed to just go in because of the number or whatever. It definitely looked shady. It was some crazy shit. Rob Markman You know what? See, I don't pay attention to stuff like that. You got my, send me stuff like that.

Send me stuff like that because I'm offended when they do things like that. We put in our livelihoods on the line. I know people that put a thousand dollars on tickets. Why you playing around? Right. Get your 15, 20 points. You know what we betting on.

Go to work. Right. And that's what I feel like my show is gonna be about cause I'm not playing with Y'all at all. Yeah, not my friends. I ain't been famous. I don't know y'all Get your fucking points A rebounds get six cuz we do we always go under you always want a little bit meet shit meet your match like the Undertaker Your boys a a Mavs fan.

What do you think about that? Because that was some bullshit. Oh, you spoke to him? Yeah. Yeah. Mavs fan. You asked him why? I don't think so.

No. He told me he's from New York, but he was for the Mavs. I've known him for 20 years. I don't know why he's a Mavs fan. He's probably been to Dallas twice. That ain't my thing. I was talking to him before. He says he's a mad man. He's probably been to Dallas twice. That ain't my thing. I was talking to him before. He says, big Steve Nash guy. Yo, see, man, this is on the air. Ain't no way. Ain't no way. He ain't tell you that.

No such thing as a big Steve Nash fan. What? We're talking about all of Canada as a big Steve Nash fan. You have a jersey hung up in your room. Right now? No, at home. At home. See? Big Steve Nash fan. That's what the whites do. You have a jersey hung up in your room. Right now? No, at home. See?

Big Steve Nash fan. That's what the whites do. We have to latch on to the ones that we got. White Chocolate, Steve Nash, all those guys who are white with a little bit of spag. All right, so give me your top five white NBA plays all the time. Of all time. Okay, let's do this. I mean-

Are we counting, Luca? Don't act like y'all gotta think too hard. Ain't too much of y'all. No, wait, wait, wait. Can we get Europeans or it's gotta be Americans? Cuz like yoke is obvious like no, okay, you just gotta go with like the 80 Celtics Fucking Kale Danny

Danny Hines. He's just a racist boss. Now you got to go Larry Bird. All right, Wes. Jerry West. Stockton or Nash is like, you know, for you guys, you want to watch each other's was that only white to a VP. OK, so then we've got to go in that over Stockton. It was a big white. We can't have Dirk.

Can't there be a big American white? We can't have Dirk. Can't have Dirk. A big American white. Who's a big American white? Big American white. That sounds like a sandwich at McDonald's. Go get the big American white for a limited time only. Scowl. It's tough after that. Damn, see I can't come up with a top five for ya?

The Lopez's? Are they white? I think they're half, right? Or Lopez, I don't know, the Spanish or some shit? I don't know. They're not 100%. I'm not mad at it. Who's a big white? I don't care. I'm just gonna keep my hands up like this. Oh yeah, listen.

Because y'all can't name Bobby, yo. Breaking news, the black guy basketball players are gonna beat the white guy basketball players. I don't care. Don't try to switch it. I'll put it on y'all. There's three of y'all here. Y'all couldn't come up with five collectively. Give me your top five hockey. Ooh. I never. P.K. Subban.

P.K. Subban. P.K. Subban. I led with Navi. No, no, no. I didn't expect you. Right, right, right. Well, we used to do this argument back in the day. It's kind of dead now, but we used to do football, all white versus all black.

Okay. Because back when we first did this argument was like 10, 15 years ago, you guys really didn't have many quarterbacks. So it was always, it was always, we had the quarterbacks and you had the corner backs and then everything else was kind of like M and receivers, but it was like mostly a mishmash. You know, now, now, you know, my homes Lamar, like you got the quarterback. No, no, now we're got them all. Got them all. You got us. We also got fucking Cooper DeJong.

We got some we got some white corners that the Dujun Cooper Dejong on the on the Eagles. We got some white corners who are now like lights out in the secondary. So like, I don't know, it's crossing. You guys got the quarterbacks. We got the cornerbacks. No, I'm trying to think in the modern world. Beautiful. I'm trying to think. Isn't the modern world beautiful?

I'm trying to think of a sport that y'all just got like that. Because y'all don't, it's not baseball. It's hockey. Who? Hockey. It's not a sport. A sport is where you use a ball. Lacrosse.

Who? Lacrosse. Lacrosse, y'all got that? Yeah. All right, give me your top five lacrosse players. Liars. Exactly. Benedict Cumberbatch.

Yo. I wouldn't even be able to tell you lying. You could say Paul, Billy, whatever. You're Benedict Cumberbatch, the fucking actor. Also, the thing is, whatever sport you guys decide to play, we just going to play. Like, who was it? Jim Brown, was it, Ray? He was like the best lacrosse player ever.

Yeah, Syracuse. Yeah, Jim Brown. You don yeah, you know Jim Brown. I'm saying I'm saying he was the one I think who played lacrosse right yeah, he played lacrosse like he was killing go any first He's all Americans a best player in the country, and then he went to play football I was like see you later, but it's like yeah, I think he's lacrosse skills over because he's Native American oh Yeah, yeah, I'm like 99% sure is that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm like 99 percent sure. Is that right? Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I feel like, you know, you got you guys got football in the bag now. So one more reason I'm a start up a fire tips chain.

Being up three, one and all. I just feel like this is one thing I wanted to get out there in case he watches y'all because I know he doesn't watch us. Tips? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, we'll tag him.

We'll call him after this. The obviousness of starting Mitchie Robinson since they fouling him when we in the penalty, start him the first five minutes of every quarter so that we not being fouled on purpose and taking ourselves out of rhythm. If you found him trying to do a dunk, cool. I'm cool with that. But shooting, him shooting air balls because you're fouling him for no reason and stuff like that. I can't take it. My mental can't take it. Bro, we were talking about the other day, like this is nothing new. We've seen it with Shaq. We've seen it, even Tim Duncan wasn't great at the line. There's been hack of this, hack of that.

This shit is crazy though. I mean, like he's not even fucking close, dude. I will never understand what's going on there physically or mentally. It's crazy. You gotta, as a coach though, you gotta protect your players. First of all, you know he can't shoot free throws. Take him out when we in the penalty. Have him in there when we're not. Right.

It's mad simple and I don't know what, they always over coaching. But then also, I mean, down the stretch last game, he was huge. You got a ton of boards, a couple of buckets, right? No misses from, I don't think he even went to the line, but like, cause he didn't put him in, we wasn't in the penalty. So from the seven minute mark to the two minute mark, you could have him in there comfortably. They're not going to foul you because the minute we get to the penalty, we just going to swap you.

Yeah. And then we know they can hit free throws at that point. We know we can hit free throws at that point. We know we can hit free throws at that point. So it's like, why didn't we do that since the first series? Like, we smoked Detroit, but we could have smoked him easier because they was fouling him on purpose too. And it's like, sometimes he's just a citizen. I'm not a huge Timbs guy, but I will say,

I don't think this has been a great series for a Missoula. I was thinking the same. Really, though? No. Because I don't think he's just done much. I feel like they just haven't made any adjustments. They just keep shooting and if it goes in, they win and if it doesn't, they lose. And it's like, okay, you can play that game. I'm saying, but the way he's coaching this round is going to hurt his next round because Indiana runs. You playing everybody 45 minutes a game. Like you can't tell if you're, I mean,

you sound like you're talking against your, your boys now. No, I'm talking against the coach I've been saying like It's cuz he's white though. No, it's not. Yes. You know what? It sounds even worse because I'm like I want his replacement to be mellow Like why mellow deserve that John on my watch AJ ready to serve deserve that John on the YJJ ready to serve his job. I'm not racist. Y'all are and I'm calling y'all out on it. What do you like?

You a Mellow guy? Yeah, I feel like Mellow's had an interesting like he was he's so beloved now, but you know, he was pretty polarizing when he was here as far as like, like I always thought he got treated like a super superstar. And I don't think he was one of those.

You didn't think he was one of those? I feel like judging, you know, what you said earlier about like individual play, I could understand why you would think that. But to me, when you're getting talked about with like LeBron James and you're getting like the top five pick every year, can't even make the playoffs.

That's, there's a disconnect there. Right. So- Here we go. Yeah, you know, you seem cooking up in my home. First of all, you mentioned LeBron. LeBron's somebody who like, you know, you chase the best team.

Mellow ran away from that. He left Denver to come to New York to bring us back. Yes. Y'all fuck around and his roster ended up being Langston Galloway, I'm not done. Pablo Prigioni, the 34 year old Spanish rookie. Lance Thomas, Von Baker. And you know who Von Baker was?

One of them white players y'all ain't named. I know that's- Yeah, he getting all his time on it. Where was Thibodeau then? We need Thibodeau to sit some of these, they Yeah, he getting all his time on it. Where was Tibbido then? We need Tibbido to sit some of these, they should have never been seen the time of day. They should have never been seen the time of day. Shane Larkin. Come on, Mello got to deal with that while Bronz playing with DeWayne Wade and Chris

Ross and you leave Chris Ross in there. Yes, no, yes, I agree. But when LeBron was playing with those bums that you were mentioning earlier, Barujow and fucking, I think his best player was Mo, Mo, Mo whoever, like he was taking those guys to the finals. And I'm not saying that LeBron needed to do that because LeBron is in the class of his own, but I'm trying to like, you should be like the eight seed, you should be not the worst team in the league. But whatever, I don't want to talk slander on Melo because I'll get fucking, he's now like the king of New York, but it is interesting to watch how he's become like after the fact, so beloved, embraced by New York.

I mean him and JR on the podcast the other day were like- I don't know, because when you hear Mello talk about the game, you're like, okay, we know he could play, but he also knows the game and he's coming from a place of, I could tell Kat, yo, get on the block and do this, because I've done that before. I could tell Kat how to be an All-Star, because I've been an All-Star before. Tibbido, just keep Lil Elf over here. Run! After we 48 minutes, I've been playing 48 minutes.

What do you mean run? Suck me out of here. Do your job. Do something. Yeah, I mean, he- We watching the game. Again, that might be coming off like, oh, he go again attacking a white guy. No, no.

It's just so happening. Yeah, no, yeah, no, it is. It is. Timbs is the coach. We're very defensive with the white people on this podcast. No, we were watching the next game the other night, and my buddy was like, he just goes, Rico. Rico just goes, hey, what do you think about Timbs's hair? It is pretty terrible.

So you asking me what I think about a bald guy's hair for? He's a guy who needs to just shave it, man. He's got those stringy comb-over hairs. What do you think about Timbs just shave. Stringy comb over here. There's fucking seven of them. So what do you feel about Aaron Rodgers? You just mean I did not like Aaron Rodgers. I did not. I was happy they moved on from him. I think he's kind of like what I was saying with Melo where it was like, hmm,

no, I shouldn't. I shouldn't make that comparison. But like a lot of people were like, look at his numbers. But like last year, he was good. And it's like, no, no, no. All those stats didn't matter. We were never in any games. We lost every game. Nothing was was, you know, important.

All that shit was garbage time or blowouts. I think he's checked the fuck out. And I think where is he at? Has he signed anywhere? Is he Steelers are still like dancing around it? Like I feel like that's where he's gonna end up but I feel like he is checked out and he's onto his Pat McAfee shit his political shit is media shit

whatever. And not to say that I'm always right. But I always be right because I what I said was I had texted my uncle one Sunday and Roger Stone throwing interceptions and stuff like this is Green Bay one of his lashes on Green Bay I'm like, yo, I know that shit man. Man Rogers is dumb He went on ESPN like oh my nephew just texted me. I should slap shit out of him. He's dumb For the next season being Roger's to come to y'all and get hurt on snap one snap two. Mm-hmm, and I'm just like

Y'all gotta move with the times again. I'm not racist But y'all gotta move with the times again. I'm not racist, but you got to move with the times. The Aaron Rodgers, the Daniel Jones, Danny DeVito's and stuff like that. Listen, I was I almost turned into Washington. What's it? What did it mean? Commander's team now. Commanders fan now, like because Jaden Daniels just played a game the way I feel like, you know, should be playing should be played. Well, he's brady guy obviously so i'm a brady guy but i was jaden daniel's guy i wanted jaden daniel so bad here you go why why why why you wanted him i'd seen him play one game

ever and i was like that's my that's the guy back right there that's all it took for me i seen him play one game and i'm just like he was scrambling you know how they zoom in? He's smiling. I'm like, he's it. He's it. He's the one. So are you like, Knicks are like far and away your biggest team or like the Giants and Yankees matter a lot to you too? Nah, the Knicks because I'm more,

I played ball growing up. Right, you're a Hooper. You basically like almost made it to the league, it sounds like. Almost made it to the league? Yeah. You can say that. Yeah. You're a hooper. You're you're you're you're basically like almost made it to the league. It sounds like almost made it to the league. Yeah. You can say that. Yeah. Yeah. You say that. You should declare for the draft for the hoop for the draft. You know you could just declare for the draft. Not saying anyone's going to pick you but you can make yourself eligible. Yeah. Why not. She called Stephen A and see if he could look it up. Maybe, maybe. I am eligible this year. Yeah, I want to declare for the NBA draft. You?

Yeah, me. You can take me. No, you already said I could probably beat you. I was the captain of my high school basketball team. And you 40 now. I'm 40 now. We also went 2 and 18 the year that I was captain. That's two decades and a couple years ago.

What school you went to? My high school? Yeah, I went to Pelham High School. Who? Pelham High School. Pelham Memorial. It's like the first suburb outside the Bronx. See, one of those schools I never heard of, but once again, I ain't racist or anything

like that. I just can't relate. I think that's got to be the name of your show, is I Ain't Racist. You just fucking... That should be the name of the show? That should be, that should be, that should be. I'm not racist, but. I'm not racist, but all these white guys suck.

Only at things that we indulge in, you know what I'm saying? All right, well, how about this? What do you give us? What do white people have the edge on? Y'all are funny. Really? I would say the opposite. I think black people are way funnier than white people. I think like the average black guy who is just like shooting the shit,

whether it's on like Twitter or in real life, busting balls is like way funnier than the average white guy. And you're supposed to say that, your media train. My thing is, three out of four y'all are funny. Even the ones that like, you would see like, I'd be on a train like, look at this idiot over there. Not because he's white. I'm not racist. But just like, y'all just be looking in the way, like he has no shoes on. It's like Josh Smith. Right. He's not living it out. It's like, Josh Smith is here. We about to do an interview with him.

Let me take my shoes off. You wanna put some shoes on, right? But it's just funny, like, he just was like, nah, I'm not gonna wear shoes. I wanna walk through this shit. I'm gonna ask you guys, you guys want any water or anything? What else would you say are the white stereotypes that you think are true?

White stereotypes that I think are true. I feel like they always say that we smell like wet dogs. I don't appreciate that. Tough day to be out there raining outside of me wearing wool. And wearing no shoes. No shoes, wool, wet, fuck. I for sure smell like a wet dog right now. Wow. See what I'm saying?

You guys are not helping me here, man. Wow. See what I'm saying? You guys are not helping me here, man. Shit. He said it and not me. That's why I said, make sure this camera stays on me so we don't mix up what I said and what they say. He said they smell like what do.

I also feel like, I feel like white people, some white people can cook. I feel like the joke of like unseasoned chicken and white people can't cook is like that. There are people that earn it, but there's also some white people who can fucking rattle them pots and pans. I don't know. Maybe y'all gonna have to show me. It's not like I hang out with y'all.

Again, I'm not racist. But I don't like to hang out with you and I don't know anybody. The cat's out the back. You asked me where I'm from. I said Hollis, Queens. If one of y'all walk through the neighborhood, everybody's going to think y'all are a cop. Like, look at that. It's fed over here.

I'm going to get a phone call like, listen,. Mike's outside. So Hollis, who's your favorite rapper? Hm? Who's your favorite rapper of all time? My favorite? I got a different favorite. The best is Jay-Z. Agreed. But my favorite is Nas, though.

He's from Queens. Queens. But I wasn't sure if 50 or Nas. That's why I asked. I thought you were going to go. Could go 50. Who? 50? 50 Cent, yeah. Nah, asked. I thought you were going to go, could go 50. Who, 50? 50 cent, yeah.

Nah, he not my favorite. He's a legend, though. We got legends. What do you think Drake and Kendrick, what'd you think of that whole saga? Nothing, Kendrick just showed us what he could do. Because, you know, Kendrick was more, not that I'm racist, but Kendrick was more y'all, you know, Kendrick fans, he got a lot of white fans.

Crazy, man. And I would be like, I just don't get it. And then the whole Drake thing happened. Wait, you don't get that why white people, or you don't get Kendrick's music? No, I didn't get the whole, people put Kendrick in the upper echelon rapids. I didn't get it until the battle. The very first diss track, I'm like, oh, okay. He's-

It was crazy to watch though, how much like, especially at the Super Bowl and like every video I saw that was pro Kendrick was like a white lesbian professor from college being like, let me tell you why these lyrics really matter. And I was like, if you told me, you know, however many years ago that Kendrick Lamar's fan base was going to become, you know, like white women, I never saw that one coming. That was crazy. And it's like Drake is like the God that had the culture because we playing his stuff when we having fun.

So yeah, but that matters, by the way, that matters. It matters the most. Yeah. Like I think people kind of discounted it. Like, well, all he does is write party tracks and it's the same music all the time. And it's like, I don't know, man, for, you know, 15 summers, everybody was playing his shit and loving his shit and they can name all his hits and sing all his lyrics and dance to all his songs.

Like that's a big part of hip hop. The other side is, you know, we got to win the battles, got to have lyrics, all that shit, but you can't discount, you know, what Drake did. I didn't realize that Kendrick had a lot of white Vance. Yeah. So the rap battle was white women professors versus kids at bar mitzvahs. Really when you break it down. Yeah. Yeah. This is one of them white jokes. I did a little I did a little fake chuckle because I said a little bit. He said bar mitzvah. I kind of know what that is. And I'm like, all right, they speaking another language. I'm in my business right

here. So bar mitzvah is man, when you're a young Jewish kid, you have your bar mitzvah, when you're like 13, you become a man. Right? And then at 13, you become a man? That's what they, you know, religiously, you become a man and then you yeah You go to you go to temple or whatever you say some shit And then you have a big-ass party and then when? When you're Catholic you get you have confirmation same idea you come in an adult in the eyes of the Lord or whatever right I? Get confirmed. I got like 400 bucks for my family Some savings bonds all my Jewish friends get their bar mitzvah. You get like 15 grand.

You're like 12 years old. All of a sudden you got like 10 bands. Like, here you go, because your aunt and uncle were just throwing cash at you. And I remember being like, I got to get in on this bar mitzvah shit somehow. That's where it's at. 12, if you want to go, you should convert. I will. Yeah. Convert that bar mitzvah.

I mean, how do I do that though? You're the one. You walk me through the door, he like telling me to convert. Convert. Yeah. That's a call that y'all gotta clear. Yo, I'm telling you right now, if I was your 12 year old kid, knowing that you got that $50 million contract in the bank and Uncle Steve's going to come through. I'd be getting bar mitzvahed real fucking quick.

Give me that yarmulke real fast. Getting that yarmulke real put the yarmulke over the braids. You got a lot of style, my bro. You could be, you know, black Jew guy that works out of my is considered like a Jew. Amari Amari Stoudermire, like I think he like tracked his heritage back to like Israel or some shit. So he was like, I'm I think he converted, but he also to like Israel or some shit. So he was like I'm I think he converted but he also like somewhat proved that he actually was Because that he was supposed to be on you seen uncut gems, but he was supposed to be KG's role

He's supposed to be who KG uncut gems. You seen that movie? Yeah He was KG was a villain. It was supposed to be a Mario Sotomayor Oh, but he didn't do it because of the cuz he cuz there's the whole I to be Amari Sotomayor. Oh, but he didn't do it because of the because he because there's the whole I pass can remind me correct better. But like I think the movie it revolves around Ethiopian Jews and a diamond

they found. And I think that's what Amari is. They saw rumors about you, Amari. I'm going to do some research. He couldn't do it. That makes more sense. That's why he was like obsessed with that diamond. Yeah. Got it. Got it.

All right. Don't be starting rumors about Amari Soudemire. I'm going to do some research. I don't know how good that sounds. Remember, camera right here. Watch me. I actually, I think Stoudemire, I think Amari deserves the most credit.

He came to New York when nobody wants to come to New York. Mellow kind of did the same thing, but Amari came when we wanted LeBron. And it was that whole free agency crap that nobody even looked at the Knicks. And Amari came when we were wanted LeBron and it was that whole free agency crop that nobody even looked at the Knicks and Amari came for a hundred. So what we gave him, did anybody else offer him that? I don't think so though. I don't think so. Yeah. So and that's my thing. I used to give him credit too, then I thought about it. I said, all right, leaving Phoenix, leaving Phoenix, knee problems, a hundred million. Sounds like the Knicks back then.

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at one point I put on I put a fire Dolan t-shirt on sale and And I guess it made its way to him and he found out about it so he was not very happy with me. But I was happy, I almost took that as a badge of honor that I was on James Dolan's radar and he was like, fuck that guy. I'm like, yeah, we'll fuck you. Okay, well James, I just met him. I'm only a guest. I'm only a guest and we thinking about locking in on something.

I was going to say that 1.3 just went down to 1.1. There you go. That 1.3 went down to 1.1. There you go. Talking that shit gave me 900,000. So you're going to start the show. And what else? I mean, we got to get you on like a media tour. Yeah, that's what I'm going to do. Soon as the finals is over and we win, I'm going to go on a nationwide, I'll come back

on here, make sure you here because it started with you. Everybody knew he was going to go on a nationwide, I'll come back on here, make sure you here, because it started with you. Everybody knew he was going to be Detroit. It's the Celtics that I have a problem with, because it's just like, they was just writing us off. Steven A's this Nick fan. Oh, that's Celtics maybe sweeping. Really? Rob Markman Yeah, he was, he did not put on for the city, bro. Even with the one time I saw him say something positive, he said, I think the Knicks are going to win and I cannot give you one basketball reason for it, but I think they're gonna.

And I was like, that's it. That's all you got. Yeah. And now he's got the towel on his head. He's going to ride for the city. He gets the a hundred million. And that's just why. Well, 50, 50, 50.

And I'm like, I'm a, I'm a free agent, right? I'm making all these correct picks in the correct games. I'm going, it's entertaining. How much am I really worth? Like if me and you did a show and the pot was five million, according to what's going on right now, how much do you think you would deserve, how much would I deserve? It's a loaded question. How much would I get of the five million?

According to what's going on, but let me fill you in. What does that mean, according to what's going on? I was about to say, let me fill you in. Minnesota was about to play the Lakers, right? We had found out that night, because remember the Western Conference was like everybody was a game, half game apart. We found out Minnesota was playing the Lakers. They picked up Luca, Steven A, we gonna start with him,

but all the people, damn Perkins and everybody, Lakers, Lakers, Lakers, Lakers, maybe even the Clippers. You were on the world. I'm sitting here saying, you think the Lakers is gonna get by Minnesota? We seen what A. Edwards did to Kevin Durant last year. You got Paul Pierce coming up. Well, I don't think he gonna do that to LeBron.

I make sure that I say what I say on a show so I can have the footage of me saying it on them dates. And I'm like, so wait. You're telling me because you picked the wolves over the Lakers. You deserve. Always right. You're always right.

So you think because you make a couple NBA picks, that you deserve. It's just that I just now, I'm in front the camera now. This is why I say I'm an adult twice. Steve and A have vouched for you. I'll text them. I'll tell you right now. I'll tell you a story.

Why don't you call Uncle Steve right now? Get him on the line. Nope. I'll tell you right now, 2022, right before the finals started, I say, yo, you should do a documentary on YouTube just before the podcast and everything. I'm like, you gotta get your stuff separate from ESPN. Do a documentary on YouTube saying that Steph Curry is top 10 if he wins this championship.

He answered me, quick draw, same guy he is on TV. No, because I don't believe that, get out of my face. Steph Curry beats the Celtics, a so-called one of the best defenses ever. Mark is smart, one defensive player the year that year They got Brown Tatum white bunch of defensive players He comes on first take the day they win I'm not gonna lie to you. I think Steph Curry might be in the top

I will consider And this is what I'm saying, I'm hitting it. I will consider 80-20 to me. Yeah, you get 20%. All right, so I got a little bit more work to do. That's all. Yeah. That's all. And I want you to-

It's a good answer. Good answer. And now that we on this show right here together, I need you to tell me who's going to win the championship this year. Because you know who I got. And you don't got them. Mix in five. No?

Mix in five. Mix in five. That's you picking with your heart. Pick with your head who you got and you don't got them. Mixing five. No? Mixing five. Mixing five. That's you picking with your heart. Pick with your head who you got winning the championship. I don't know man. Exactly. I'll tell you what my confidence in the Celtics has skyrocketed. Your answer don't matter.

Your answer don't matter. Yeah, you're talking about winning the championship bro. We gotta finish this fucking series. I was gonna say you know how to put in tickets. How do I put in tickets to Celt don't put tickets of Celtics win this series So see all I'm saying is I asked you a question and you said you don't know that's the media today Yeah, I'm coming and I'm stamping you so I'm looking at you when I'm talking because he's making you want to some shit right now I'm stamping what I'm saying, you know, hey

in five. We have a fuck who we playing. I don't know if you're, you sound like you're not too familiar with the other people at Barstool, but you got Dave Portnoy, you got Dan Katz, you got a bunch of people here who are worth, Dave's worth hundreds of millions of dollars, okay?

He could not pick a game to save his fucking life. So what does that mean, he's entertaining? Yes, if you think that picking games right He cannot pick a game to save his fucking life. So what does that mean? He's entertaining? Yes, if you think that picking games right is gonna take you to 50-50 on our five million, you are crazy, dude. Is the camera on him? He doesn't even know about my right picks

before I got here, but I'm here, right? So I'm here because I'm entertaining. We already scratched that already. I'm the God when it comes to that. Now I'm trying to tell y'all I know what the fuck I'm talking about, along with being that. Now I'm trying to tell y'all I know what the fuck I'm talking about along with being entertaining. How much am I worth? Now I'm talking to you, I already got your answer.

I'm talking to you over there. This is no shoes. I don't know if the camera's on it, but this is the guy that wears no shoes. If it's five million and you the producer and you trying to convince me, hey, do a show with KFC. How much of the five million do I get? I'll give you 35% if you guess the exact amount of games that Knicks are going to have to go through to win the finals.

Oh, okay. So basically how many games are they going to beat the Pacers in? So they're going to win tonight you're saying, because you said Knicks. They're going to win tonight, that's fine. How many does the Pacers go and then how many does it go against rather the Wolves or the Thunder? And the finals is going to be six. Okay.

We're going to be the Pacers of all. So five, six, one, so 12 games. So there's 12 games left. So the Knicks will win the championship in 12 more games. Yes. All right. If that happens, you get 35%. I'm running it down.

How much? 35% of the five Yes. All right. 35 percent. I'm running it down. How much? 35 percent of the five million. All right. So y'all just have to make sure that it's five million. I don't know where the five million comes from. I got a certain quota I'm trying to reach. Stephen A's not even going to accept.

Wait, you doing a show with a bunch of white guys? How much? I got to say, listen, man, they put me in a million dollar bracket. I'm with them. We got it. Yeah. Listen, how about this? You, you talk to your uncle and secure that money and you get all, you can get the 80. I'll take 20% of Stephen A's money. If you land the Stephen A money.

I know you don't first of all, he done got rid of Max. He didn't already skip. I'm gonna bring a new white guy I got somebody else here. No, I think he might be he's all set with the whites He might be he might be washed out, but I'm new and I've got the well Let me tell you if he's all set with the whites. He needs to end this political shit real quick Cuz you're not you're gonna have to deal with a whole bunch of white folks if you run for president No, don't those white those white folks are like they're not, you're going to have to deal with a whole bunch of white folks if you run for president. No, those white folks are like, they're different from y'all. You know, we're here drinking drinks, cursing, and y'all are encouraging me, mention weed,

mention weed. Y'all are not the most political. We got the cops out the door. Yeah, y'all are not the most political. We got them, we got them, bring them in. Ladies and gentlemen, we got them. Exactly, there got him. Exactly.

There you go. This seems like a setup. So I'm just so free that I don't mind walking into this shit. I can handle this. I can't, you know, pass the drinks. All right. So wait, it's going to be Knicks, 12 more games, Knicks over the Pacers and then Knicks over who?

Timberwolves. Timberwolves. And I believe that because the Timberwolves are like the Junior Knicks. I said it. Ant does have a knack for like beating, like he's the Kingslayer. We don't have legends on our team though.

Excuse me? Ant is a legend, like a legend killer. We all, we all, we, huh? Do you only think Jalen Bronson's a legend? Nah, he's in there, he's in there of building his shit and kills legends that established Our legend every okay, Braun get up out of here. Kevin Durant. I'm screaming on you. Yeah, and that was like Jalen Brunson is gonna be a different animal. We just as hungry as he is Alright last question. Who do you think is the face of the league then?

You know, it's think so even though he doesn't want it when he's like, I don't want that. That's the reason he is Just like that's the reason I'm gonna be the face of the league then? You think so? Even though he doesn't want it, when he's like, I don't want that. That's the reason he is. Just like that's the reason I'm going to be the face of the media. I don't want to be like y'all. I don't want to be like Stephen A. I don't want to be like nobody. I want to be like me. And when I talk to anybody, I'm going to always talk how I talk. I will never change. People be like DMing me, oh my God, you answered.

Of course I answered. I'm going to curse you out if you deserve it too. Those are the ones I answer first. I look through the comments and I'll see somebody, everybody give me laughs, laughs, laughs. Oh, he's the greatest thing that I've ever had in this evening, then you get one guy. Oh, he's fucking corny, that'd be the guy I answer.

Watch your fucking mouth. Yo, I'll repost this picture, and have all my followers making fun of him. I don't care, I'm petty like that, I enjoy it. And that's the fact that it's like, yeah, let the right guy in because I like to play this game. I think you're next, man. I really do. I mean, I feel like I've been doing this a long time. And as soon as I saw you on the show and on social, I was like, I think this guy's, I think this guy's got it. He's probably worth 20% of 5 million.

20% probably worth 20% of 5 million? Yeah, probably. Maybe. We'll see. That's funny because when you told me to come on your show, I watched your shit and I'm like, I could take that shit over. So you thinking 20, I'm thinking 20 for you. Just like LaCrosse and hockey and all that shit. There you go. I'm coming to your game and take it over. Jim Brown. My man. All right. So as of right now, it's what follow you on social media. You can catch him on the-

Yeah, so my IG is joesmith776. I'm gonna come out with a country song just for this panel right here. Just to prove I'm not racist. I'm gonna come right into y'all music genre and give y'all something to be like, oh, our friend Josh left this with us and y'all gonna play it.

You write a country song, I promise you it'll get played. Bro, you make a country song, we will debut it, premier it, host it, the whole nine. When we went up, since we making guarantees, the day after the finals, bring me up. Hopefully it's game six in New York. And I just got to come across the street. I need like a, like a Canyon heroes, Nick's parade, uh, country music song. And I need

y'all. Y'all gotta redo this shit. This is like, this is a little too white for me. All this whiskey and stuff like that. We is it, y'all got to deal with them and stuff like that. No, not them anymore. No. So y'all can put anything back in? Yeah, you can put anything back in. Come on, we gotta get some real, we ain't gonna say no names. What do you want? Huh? What do you want? Somebody told me to say Cognac so that different Cognacs could try to tame me.

I'm chasing the back. God. So no specific brand. Yeah, no specific brand. But Cognac just in case Kavasi ain't hitting anything. All right. All right. You got it, bro. cognac just in case, Cavasi, Henny, and all those. All right. All right.

You got it, bro. You make a country song, you land a cognac deal, you can get 20% of five million and you can come in here and redecorate. We have to talk about the 20%. I told you my manager's over there scratching his chin. Don't think that this shit is sweet over here. All right. 50%.

My man, thank you. Thank you very much. Appreciate you, dude. I appreciate you. All right. Big thanks for much. Appreciate you, dude. Appreciate you. All right. Big thanks for watching.

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