KFC Radio - Kevin Dillon & Doug Ellin, Bella Thorne is Ruining OnlyFans, and Drinking With Guerillas

Episode Date: September 1, 2020

Subscribe, Rate, and Leave a Review! -Bella Thorne has disrupted the OnlyFans industry -Top 5 Vacations -Voicemails include turning over after sex, virgin at 26, and were you ever the first? (01:10:...00) Doug Ellin & Kevin Dillon join the show to promote Victory The Podcast, where they break down Entourage episode by episode. We talk about Adventure Park, the success and nostalgia of Entourage, and the dark ending the show almost had before Mark Wahlberg shot that idea down. Let us know what you think on twitter @Kfcradio @KFCBarstool @FeitsBarstoolYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/kfcr

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, KFC Radio listeners, you can find every episode of KFC Radio on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Bro, if I paid $200 and I saw someone's back and butt cheeks, it's not worth it. Oh, oh, back and... You're a horny little boy if you think that's worth it. I am a horny little boy. point of the boy it's another edition of kfc radio on the barstool sports network uh as you listen to this i'm on vacation we did a little pre-recording ahead of time. So the news of the moment right now is one that we've been talking about a lot. Almost too much.
Starting point is 00:00:49 I definitely am like, every time something comes out, I'm like... But it's like we talk about Twitter, right? But I also think we were on it. We brought it up, and then there's a reason we were right, because everything has been OnlyFans news every single day since then. And there's a little revolution going on now. I actually feel like at one point I was an ally for those in OnlyFans. And now I feel like I'm part of the problem.
Starting point is 00:01:14 What do you mean? Because the latest hubbub on OnlyFans is that Bella Thorne has ruined things. Yes. And at first I was like, see, look, Bella Thorne's making all this money. You should go do it too. And it turns out that for the average person who they all consider themselves sex workers and the average person who is trying to make ends meet
Starting point is 00:01:34 and really trying to make a career off of OnlyFans, Bella being like a scam artist has fucked up the whole platform. They're looking into how tips are done. They're changing things around because Bella made so much fucking money doing nothing platform they're looking into like how tips are done they're changing things around because bella made so much fucking money doing nothing that the only fans like platform is like well hang on we gotta well no that's not what it was it was she dm'd her all her followers and was like subscribe
Starting point is 00:01:58 to this extra 200 tip or give me a $200 tip and we get a nude tonight. And then everyone gave her a $200 tip and then she didn't post a nude. So then so many people asked for a refund that OnlyFans was like, I don't think they have that kind of cash on hand. And they were just like, we don't, we can't give that refund.
Starting point is 00:02:19 We don't have that money. So now are they stopping tips in general? I think the most you can give as a tip is a hundred bucks and then what a bitch it's something and don't quote me on this entirely um and then it's something like the regular people now they only get it like they only get those tips like once a month rather than immediately and then also there's some other process that like she changed around so bella came in and it would be like if you like if you were a stripper and you had the whole system going well and some celebrity comes in and fucks it all up. Or if you're working as an escort and somebody blows the whole thing up.
Starting point is 00:02:56 There were people who were like that was their job or they were making money that they needed. Bella Thorne comes in and, I mean, openly was scamming kind of. She was like, i'm not posting nudity and you all signed up anyway and then there are a lot of people on only fans like that yeah like that where it's just like they just post there we were talking about the risque photos and not like anything like a little bit more of a of a higher end instagram i'm surprised that only fans didn't just go to her and say post post the nude. Yeah. Because that's, you know,
Starting point is 00:03:25 what's the easier solution. Let me come up with 10,000 people's worth of $200 tips or just you fucking follow through on your promise. I would, I would have said like you either like I'll, if I was the only fans executive, I would have said post the nude to follow through. And if she said no,
Starting point is 00:03:41 I'd kick her off the platform. And then I would give all those people, like, vouchers. Because it's like, we don't have $2 million on hand. Because that's how many of you motherfuckers paid $200 for a nude. I mean, by the way, if you're paying $200 for just a nude picture, you're a fucking loser. Yeah, but dude, there's something about it. $200, John? If someone DM'd me right now and was like, I'll send you a nude for $200.
Starting point is 00:04:03 Folks, you heard it! This is actually why OnlyFans does work. Again, we did it when we first talked about it. I want to see everybody. I want to see face though. I want to see video. Picture's not doing it for me.
Starting point is 00:04:19 Picture's doing it for me. 1998? I won't jerk off to it but it'll get me going i mean it'll get me going but i will get you going 200 worth yeah yeah yeah yeah i would yeah i mean fucking spend 200 on lunch yeah right it's like 200 on fucking delivery food fees exactly yeah it's it's fucking really easy to spend 200 i might as well see a vagina yeah but you're right i do like if it right I'm actually okay with the anonymous shit but I have to know that it's actually you somehow
Starting point is 00:04:49 that's what I mean it could just be a fucking google image for all I know that's what I know I'm okay with anonymous as well but like there's gotta be something about it so I know it's you it's not a google image it's not fucking Christina Rose
Starting point is 00:05:03 just her fucking body. Which, by the way, that is still the sexiest music video I've ever seen in my life. Christina Rose? Who's that? You don't know who Christina Rose is? I don't think so. I watched her literally this morning. She's a porn star.
Starting point is 00:05:16 Hang on. While I look this up, let me tell you about Owens Mixers. They are the number one mixer company out there right now. They're the only mixer company as far as I'm concerned. Everybody else is just like, you know, orange juice and cranberry juice and Owens Mixer, slap the name on it, created craft cocktail mixers ranging from spicy margarita mix to mint cucumber lime mix all the way down to the barstool foreplay transfusion mix.
Starting point is 00:05:41 That's the hot shit right now in the streets for this summer. Foreplay and the Golf Boys have been drinking transfusions all summer long. It's grape juice mixed with ginger ale. You mix it up with some New Amsterdam vodka. It's delicious and refreshing, and it's the perfect summer cocktail. You can keep drinking it all through the fall. You can drink it through the winter for all I give a fuck. All of a sudden, you're going to blink, and it's going to be summer again,
Starting point is 00:05:59 and you're still drinking transfusions with the Owens mixers. All you got to do is add vodka to all these things. You add vodka to the mint mix, to the... I've heard add tequila, but you just can't have a bottle. Sure, sure. Add anything except gin. Gin's crazy. No, gin's having a moment.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Gin, you are getting so played by Ryan Reynolds. So played. No, dude, I've actually been having not a lot of gin, but occasionally I'll have some gin. As what? What as what i enjoy it hey this her yes yeah i'm watching right now oh is that on youtube you can show this on youtube oh i opened the vimeo page because the song is actually since when can you so show vaginas on on on youtube anyway go to go to owens mixers website or go to the barstool sports store or
Starting point is 00:06:42 go to your local liquor store they They might have the Owens mixers in stock. Since when can you show pussy on YouTube? We get strikes for playing certain songs and shit. She can just show her asshole? This is definitely YouTube hasn't caught it yet or something. It must be. No, this is uploaded in 2014.
Starting point is 00:07:00 We're going to pause for a second. Are we? Or are we just going to let it run? Let me just do a little commentary here So this is a porn star, she's made a music video Yeah, the song's dope too This is like old school I mean that's like an old iPhone Christina Rose, am I familiar with her?
Starting point is 00:07:17 I'm very familiar with her So this is just like her I thought it was her song So she just made a music video Rapping So this is just like her... I thought it was her song. No, no, no, no, no, no. So she just made a music video rapping. This is like if you were to ever have a fantasy of your maid coming in and cleaning, except this is how it really goes.
Starting point is 00:07:40 She's a mess. She's just scrubbing and naked, you know? I'm so horny right now john is hard there's been there's probably been like three times that john's been like rock hard doing the podcast and this is the fourth i am impossibly horny this is special it's one of the sexiest things i've ever seen in my life and she's just solo yeah imagine the beauty like go just like action and dance around clean this up and be fucking hot how how how aggressive does she get like i she doesn't like i don't think she like
Starting point is 00:08:12 spreads cheeks or anything like that but she gets totally naked i love that you say that because that's so important i mean whenever the casting couch guy came up with that now bend over and spread your cheeks that was revolutionary That changed the fucking world. What we're going to do, Nick, is we're going to tell the audience to press play at this exact moment. We're going to go back, and everyone can watch along as we do this. Yeah, I could put a time code. Yeah, perfect. This chick is so hot.
Starting point is 00:08:38 I'm obsessed with this girl. Into the shower we go. God, I want to have sex with her so bad I still can't get over that this is on YouTube The same video I'm watching right now Landing strip She's a bush girl Full bush? Cause there's landing strip
Starting point is 00:08:57 Now she has since grown I don't even know if she's still in the game But she uh I became very fond of her let's say i mean honestly i watched this music video the first time i lived in new york so this is yeah 10 years ago i mean so a girl like this is on her grind on her hustle amateur porn star probably rocking on well she's not an amateur porn star well you, you know what I mean. At some point on the come up, doing this shit for real,
Starting point is 00:09:27 and gets totally fucked over by someone like Bella Thorne. Goddamn bitch. Seriously. We had a good thing going with OnlyFans. And Bella just stole everybody's money. I mean, do they give you a total?
Starting point is 00:09:46 Do they say how many $200 tips she got? She probably got like... I don't know the answer to that. I mean, if she had thousands of people subscribing... I think Nate blogged it. If you're subscribing to Bella Thorne, you probably are already, and she's only posting clothes, pictures.
Starting point is 00:10:00 You're probably already obsessed. You probably do the $200 tip. She probably got like hundreds of thousands of dollars in a single night. And for for what probably even more than that if she made two million dollars just doing subscriptions and then she all of a sudden charged 200 out of nowhere she probably made a boatload and you can't just post yourself naked without fucking over all the everyone else on only fans you goddamn bitch. No, it doesn't say. She sent everyone unlock for $200, and it went naked?
Starting point is 00:10:31 Naked? Yes, naked. And someone replied, how naked is the question for $200? And she went, no clothes naked, which isn't naked enough. It's really not. It's really not. Think about it. You could be fully no clothes, and it's just like your back and your butt cheeks. Again, unless you're spreading them, that's not worth it.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Well, it is worth it. I'm in, no matter what. Bro, if I paid $200 and I saw someone's back and butt cheeks, it's not worth it. You're a horny little boy if you think that's worth it. I am a horny little boy. Let me. Bro, I am a horny little boy. Don't do that again.
Starting point is 00:11:08 Never, ever do that again. What's your matter, Kevin? No. No. Stop it. Right, Nick? Jesus. I've been a week.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Christ. I'm just going to see what happens at the end of this music video here. I just want to see. Yeah, I mean, she is. What was that? I mean, I'm just disappointed that, you know, we were just getting this thing off the ground and Bella Thorne ended the fun before it even started.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Fuck you, Bella Thorne. You know what she's got to do? She's got to make up for it now. I don't know how, but like. I got a couple of ideas. Yeah, me too. Me too. I'm going to close this laptop before I fucking cum.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Oh, thank God I'm going on vacation. I need to reset. I need to just bring it back to neutral, man. Shit. Speaking of vacations, let's do our top fives this week. Top five brought to you by American Home Shield. It's going to be top five places you went on vacation. Now, American Home Shield is very smart for, I believe, our generation. shield uh it's gonna be top five places you went on vacation now uh american home shield is is
Starting point is 00:12:07 very smart for i believe our generation because our generation is one that is a not very handy not very good with uh uh plumbing and electrical work and you know around around the housework we also are like so spoiled we're so used to like just i rent an apartment i call the super you better fix this you know i've never called the super that doesn't surprise me in four because you just live in like oh that's broken whatever yeah that's broken uh the i when i was interviewing for my new apartment the guy was like talking about the supers and he gave me like the supers number and all kinds of stuff and i was like i'll be honest in four years my last apartment i've never called the super and he's like well that's pretty was like, I'll be honest in four years, my last apartment, I've never called a super. And he's like,
Starting point is 00:12:45 well, that's pretty good. It's like, don't get me wrong. I should have like dozens of times, but I just don't. Yeah. But that's you.
Starting point is 00:12:53 That's me. The rest of us of this generation, maybe not even like the generation, like after us would be like, um, like this is making a noise and this is like a little off and this is a little whatever. Come fix it. Well, when you own a home home you can't do that you're the super and especially if you're
Starting point is 00:13:09 the guy out there fucking double standards are like hey honey you should go fix this it's like uh i'm just as helpless as you are i have a podcast right i don't even know how to fucking hammer in a nail get out of here are even like growing up so my dad doesn't know how to do stuff either and like growing up our toolbox had like a bunch of stray like nonsense like i think there was a hammer yeah and the rest was like candy yeah i i can't tell you how many times i've like opened up my drawer at home and it's like i have like four phillips head screwdrivers and no four like flat heads and no phillips head i'm just like, what? How did I get four of these and none of the other?
Starting point is 00:13:48 I don't even know how I got any of these to begin with. I don't have any of these toys and I don't know how to use any of them. So if anything gets broken, when I have my house and shit would break, I'd be like, well, uh, we're either fucked or I'm going to have to spend a zillion dollars fixing this.
Starting point is 00:14:00 And the kicker is like, you usually spend pretty much all your money getting your house. And then all of a sudden it's a starter home so shit's gonna be broken and next thing you know you're like oh wait a minute i didn't realize i was gonna have to like buy a replacement fridge or the boiler's broken and that's gonna cost thousands of dollars well it doesn't if you have american home shields american home shield is basically an insurance plan that will take care of all your appliances and uh all of your you know systems in your house so that if you're heating, electric, plumbing, any of your appliances get fucked up,
Starting point is 00:14:30 American Home Shield slides in and fixes it for you. They either will fix it or cover the cost of the replacement. Because I remember I had a Sub-Zero fridge. They just don't fucking make... I had a fridge that was from like 1940. Really? It was huge. It was built into like the wall.
Starting point is 00:14:47 So it couldn't go anywhere. So, I mean, it was enormous. And it was like from, you know, it was like the first fridge ever made. And I was like, yeah, I have like a sub-zero, like, they were like, what was the model number? And I'm like looking, I'm like, one. Like, yeah, there's no one alive anymore that can fix that. So I was like, shit, shit i'm gonna have to buy a new one well fridges are very expensive and uh if i had american home shield they would either
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Starting point is 00:15:40 That's American Home Shield. Be sure with the shield. Top five vacations that we've been on been on good first back good i'm gonna go prague i'm gonna go to czech republic um i'll tell you why that's gonna be huge for you because you can you've been telling that world war ii tidbit for the rest of your life yeah it wasn't the actual city unaffected by bombing in World War II. He's been telling you that ever since he's gone on the trip. And I had a lot of fun. It was actually one of the few places I've been.
Starting point is 00:16:13 Even as a younger, I think I turned 16 there. You were all around the world at a young age. Yeah. Because of what, hockey and boarding school? Exactly. Yeah. It really is a miracle you're not addicted to drugs why that's just i mean you're like a white affluent kid from
Starting point is 00:16:32 a boarding school you played sports and traveled the world at a young age you live in new york city you like to drink you don't sleep you need to be up and out of you're in the entertainment industry i mean you should be addicted to cocaine it's crazy you're not if it wasn't for your general apathy i think you would because i think you would have been like i gotta shit like i gotta like do this or like oh no i have to make you know i gotta do a bump right now instead you'll be like i don't know whatever it's a good observation um the only thing keeping me away from drugs is my lack of caring but pretty much it really is thank god but if it wasn't for your indifference you'd be in the grave right now that was uh the two highlight a lot of highlights that trip but there are two i have the best of one on my birthday i was was getting I was like, I was like 15 or 16.
Starting point is 00:17:27 I forget. I forget what age, but I was like kind of chubby, right? That little bitch. Yeah. Like puffy nipples. You've seen them. Yeah. And I had strippers.
Starting point is 00:17:36 I had a lesbian. It's always a stripper. And two strippers licking my nipples in front of everybody. You never go to strip clubs now, but when you were a kid, you were getting raped by them all the time. I was going. I was in strip clubs all the time from like 15 to 18. Getting your nipples licked at any age, but at the age of like 15? Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:17:54 It was wild. Because that's one of those things, too. I think you're into this, aren't you? Aren't you into nipple play? Didn't we say this recently? No. I'm not against it, but it's not like a thing. If I was just sitting here, if I was hooking up and some girl was sucking on my nipples,
Starting point is 00:18:07 I'd be looking at her like, are you done? Either move down or come up. I don't need that. Come up for air or go down. No, I'm into female nipple play. Yeah, what's in that? I wish they could come. Yeah, we know that.
Starting point is 00:18:24 And then the other one was we had we were i forget who we played in the morning but we played in the morning and we lost and that like eventually uh essentially eliminated us from it you pulled it up that darling cabaret yeah it is they it like officially eliminated us from the next round or whatever but we had one more game that night so it was a worthless game yeah so we all went out and got fucking shit faced at lunch oh so you played drunk? yeah
Starting point is 00:18:52 you were still shipping my buddy got drunk because he was the starting goalie he was told he's like you're not like you're not playing tonight don't worry about it you're good so he got fucking drunk drunk and he we were playing russia we went down like 10 nothing right and like we're getting fucking run out of the
Starting point is 00:19:11 building and i think but when we went down 10 nothing they were like yo you're in and he was like he was starting stretching and he's like bro i'm gonna fucking puke everywhere he's like stretching and then the game starts. Not the game starts. He gets in. And I ended up scoring to make it like 13-1. And we were all so drunk. We celebrated like we won the Stanley Cup.
Starting point is 00:19:36 And I went down the ice looking at him. And I just pointed my stick and went, sniper! And then I pumped it like a gun. and he fell and pretended he got shot. It was obscene. It was a bunch of drunk 15-year-olds. I can't even imagine your coach. The other coach must have just been in Russian like, these American kids are drunk, huh? These kids are shit-faced, huh? Wow. All right, right yeah prague that's a good one don't blame you uh i will go uh i mean i
Starting point is 00:20:13 haven't done too much traveling so this is going to be uh not many experiences and probably all from recently but um santorini was santorini's is fucking santorini's is like the only one i've ever heard you talk about it's the only one I've really ever gone on. It is heaven on earth. I'm actually going to split up one vacation into two, so I have more pics here. But Santorini is... Santorini is not real life.
Starting point is 00:20:36 It's not real. Why? It's just so beautiful. It's like, this is fake. If you were to design a fucking hologram of a trip or like paint a picture or whatever like when you see paintings or pictures of santorini that are like those white the white like uh clay like rock dome buildings and the blue uh the blue water and the blue sky it's like that's not that's how exactly how it looks like when you see it in person it looks exactly like
Starting point is 00:21:02 that shit and it's like in this like cove kind of i don't know if it's like considered a bay or a cove or uh whatever but it's like i mean it is are we allowed to go to any places right now we're still not no i don't think so i mean there are places but it's not great yeah it's like you can go to like sierra leone and fucking like a couple places in mexico that's it um but santorini uh they also had we went to like there's the black sand beach the red sand beach and the white sand beach which are like those all look like somebody fucking painted the sand i mean it's like a joke the only thing about greece is like uh you know you're just eating like uh you know like mediterranean food is good but it's just like i don't know i can't eat like cucumber and tzatziki like you know what i mean it's just over and over and over again but that place man there was one spot in santorini that you had to you could walk down these stairs it's like built into the into the mountainside kind of and i think it's
Starting point is 00:22:00 legitimately like 1 000 steps and i was like i'm not doing that like not i don't care yeah like it's pretty up here i'm sure it's pretty down there but i'm not gonna have to do a thousand steps to get there but i i did uh this is on my honeymoon we did like a wine tasting that was there's like a spot in santorini that's like the most furthest out like chunk of land kind of overlooking that little like bay area whatever we had a table for two sitting alone where they served us like wine and food and i was like this is like if you were to die and go to heaven this would be like it you know my uh actually our maid of honor her father passed away and he had a quote that said like i'm not afraid of dying because i've seen heaven on earth and it's santorini like that's right where i'm going so
Starting point is 00:22:42 i mean it is that like picturesque it's fucking i'm like I mean I wasn't you know shit-faced in Prague as a 15 year old but but it was a pretty good trip all right number two uh I'm gonna go with Salamanca it's a Spain trip but the I will do I will highlight one weekend we went to I honestly forget I think it's Santiago no that's in Chile uh I forget I forget the name of the... There would be weekend trips where you'd go... We were there for a month. We did a weekend trip to Lisbon, weekend trip to somewhere. Wherever we were, this one,
Starting point is 00:23:17 there were two things that happened that were wild. One was a bank we were in got evacuated so they could blow it up. What? ETA. I forget what ETA stands for, but it's like the terrorist organization from Basque Country. Okay. Basically, they plant bombs.
Starting point is 00:23:38 And I honestly don't know if it ever blew up, but it was a call. Yeah, no, I think they did blow it up. I forget exactly but the what what that does is they call they plant bombs and they call and they say evacuate the building and it's basically just then be like look what we could have done like like we could have killed everyone if we wanted to yeah and that was wild and then so then that night we were playing kings in uh uh i was probably like 16 this time and we were playing kings with me my buddy and two girls and all the beers in the europe are like they keep them on shelves instead
Starting point is 00:24:12 of in fridges so like they were all fucking warm yeah so we're like having to chug beers in playing kings and like i'm just like puking as we're doing it and then like sip puke sip puke one of the bets was, this is one of the hotter things that's happened in my life, to be totally honest. One of the bets was like, I had to get totally naked. And I was allowed to have a hat
Starting point is 00:24:33 on my dick. But to have a hat on your dick, you have to have a hard dick. And I'd never had sex or anything before. How old were you at this point? I was like, probably 16,
Starting point is 00:24:41 maybe. I think I turned 17 on that day. I always went on vacation in the summer, it seems. And I was was so i was in the in the bathroom jerking off to get hard so i could hang a hat on my dick and this girl i wish ben schwartz could hear these stories by the way like i just pictured me like what and And this girl was like, I'll help you out. And she was just moaning through the door
Starting point is 00:25:06 and I was like, that's doing it. She's like, ah, ah. And I was like, you can come in. And who was she?
Starting point is 00:25:15 She's a friend. She went to high school with me. It wasn't like a random Spanish girl. Goddamn, girl. Yeah, that'll help. That'll do it.
Starting point is 00:25:23 That'll fucking do it. I was like, oh yeah, baby. Your vacations are better than mine. A lot better than mine. You might know, like, these are nice places I like to go. These are wild sexual experiences that defined who I am as a person. The Amalfi Coast of Italy.
Starting point is 00:25:46 Positano. I went there. I think that's when I started my first meal, second meal, third meal. I don't know if it's... Wait, you're what? Like, I just eat whatever I want. Whatever I want. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:56 I mean, I was eating. I had wine and cheese for breakfast. I would go to a restaurant and be like, can I just get a block of mozzarella and some red wine? And they're like, yeah, here you go. Yeah, obviously. I obviously i was like i was like is that even we don't have anything else actually basically yeah it was just wine and cheese until i was like fat and drunk all the fucking time uh but that that's a place uh uh positano was just like and and Capri. Oh man, these fucking, I got to go on vacation again, man.
Starting point is 00:26:25 I gotta go. I gotta go. We went, uh, I actually, my sister's planning her honeymoon. And so she asked me a lot about our honeymoon and I sent, I dug up the itinerary and,
Starting point is 00:26:36 um, wow, that is crazy. Shocker. Well, I just, I just Googled her honeymoon and like in your Gmail. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:43 Yeah. And it was in there. Uh, but I told her, I'm like, you know, each of these spots, like we would, we stayed in like an affordable hotel for like a couple nights and then we would do like a splurge for a couple nights. So, and then she looked at it and she was like, oh, these were the affordable hotels. We went from like a four star hotel to a five star hotel.
Starting point is 00:27:02 I mean, it was like, well, that's good. They're like small, like Europe. They don't like, like the big hotels like us. a four-star hotel to a five-star hotel i mean it was like well that's good in europe too though they're like small like europe yeah they don't like like the big hotels like us so like a fucking three-star hotels like a fucking two-star hotel yeah it's a problem yeah yeah but i mean i i keep telling myself i gotta go back to santorini or maficos and it's like you should you should meet a girl on tinder and be like for a date, do you want to go? Just go right now? To Europe. Just pick up and go?
Starting point is 00:27:26 Yeah. Well, this is my point. It's not just going. It's like, I need to go and spend like tens of thousands of dollars. Yeah, yeah. Because the version I know of it, like if I got back there and did it normal, I'd be like, this kind of sucks. You know? I need the luxury at this point because that's how I remember it.
Starting point is 00:27:41 So that's, maybe I'll do that. Maybe I'll just hop on Tinder and be like, I'm going to go, I'm going to go on Tinder for one day. I'm going to go on a dating app for one day. And if you match with me, we're going to fucking Europe. We did that once. Did you? No,
Starting point is 00:27:51 we didn't go Europe obviously, but we all, we were all like drinking with guys and girls, friends. We were basically back when I live in Boston and, we were all drinking one morning or one afternoon, whatever it was. And we were like,
Starting point is 00:28:02 let's all find a Tinder date and have a big dinner together. And so eight of us found eight people on Tinder. And you had a dinner together. And we all had dinner together. See, that's awesome. Yeah, it was fun as hell. Was it good? Yeah, it was great.
Starting point is 00:28:14 We went to, I forget where we went in South Beach. Were the Tinder dates like, what the fuck's going on? They were a little surprised. Especially at that point, I would imagine, on Tinder, it's like, we gonna meet i'm gonna go over we're gonna fuck and all of a sudden you're a part of like a family dinner we were i forget the name we were at a mexican restaurant in southie it was like i think it's over on a street honestly you're young and you're listening do shit like that that is like you can go on tinder
Starting point is 00:28:39 and you can just like meet someone and fuck sure that's good whatever i don't know if everyone found one that's a story people came that's a story you can tell on a podcast one day yeah that's a story that people are gonna remember that's a story that you could write a fucking a little a little like netflix movie about that yeah called like eight people or something dinner dinner for eight right and it's like it's like one of those movies like crash or traffic where everything intertwines so like i love it right so like you have your tinder, you're matching with her. She's like, she's texting you back on Tinder and she like walks out of the store and another person walks in and then the camera follows her instead. And everybody has a story and then they meet up and then you have to have
Starting point is 00:29:14 some twists to it. It's like your Tinder date, like murdered my Tinder dates, mom, something like that. And then there's some drama, but dinner for eight on Netflix with the algorithm. So you make it some corny,
Starting point is 00:29:24 romantic comedy with a twist. Gold. Write it down, Nick. That's another one of our TV movies. I wrote it down. Yeah. What do you got? Number three, San Salvador, which was...
Starting point is 00:29:36 I don't even know where that is. South America? El Salvador, yeah. It's the capital of El Salvador. It's fucking... And, like, I kind of like... Like, it's a dangerous place, obviously. Is this the one you went to recently? no no i went to columbia there um but the this i was the same girl lives
Starting point is 00:29:50 in san salvador yeah um and so we had let's see the one story okay so two stories here on this one one when i showed up they had bought a new apartment for me what so it was me and like me like two buddies. Bought an apartment for you? I don't know if they bought it. We didn't stay in their house. We stayed in a different apartment because they ran out of beds or whatever.
Starting point is 00:30:13 Wait, I'm sorry. Wait, wait, wait. My friend's family. Okay. My friend is from there. She lives there. So we were going to visit her. And they were like,
Starting point is 00:30:21 oh no, we actually got you guys your own place. And we had our own apartment, which was like next door, which I fucking came home drunk and shattered the glass table. Did you like fall into it? No, I was,
Starting point is 00:30:33 I was like, I was kind of doing one of these, like to sit. Oh no. Yeah, you're fat ass can't sit on a glass table.
Starting point is 00:30:39 Right through. But then, so we, so they call San Salvador, I believe it's la valle de las amacas which is the valley of the volcanoes uh-huh and because there's tons of volcanoes there and one night we went to a party at my friend's friend's place okay where this dude's family had just bought a volcano so they just bought a volcano like they owned the volcano and it was
Starting point is 00:31:04 theirs and they okay and they built a cabin on top of it another movie i mean that's the that's the most that's the biggest flex i've ever heard i didn't know you i didn't know you could do that i had no idea i would buy it do that i think kanye did it recently actually i was gonna say i hope that it's not like cliche i'd imagine some other people have done it if i get rich enough to do so the first thing i'm doing buy a volcano it's like oh you're I'm going to buy my mom a house. No, no, no. I'm going to buy a fucking volcano.
Starting point is 00:31:28 Did you get to name it? I don't. Probably, right? No, I don't. I would imagine so. Yeah. But we're going up there, right? And this kid's family has, obviously, lots of money.
Starting point is 00:31:39 And so we're going up in bulletproof cars with armed security. Like G-Wagon? With fucking AKs. Yeah. Because in the woods of the volcano, the militia lived. So then we go up and we're partying. There's a football field-sized lawn out in front of their house. Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:00 And at this point, you're inside the volcano or something? No, no. On the mountainside? Just on the mountainside. Okay. Yeah the mountain side Not inside, but you know You're just on the slope going up Yeah, and we're pretty high Because there's no road There's a dirt path
Starting point is 00:32:15 And in the pictures From that night It's like me I went down with one buddy And then there was another girl there who was friends with the girl who I was friends with, but whatever.
Starting point is 00:32:28 And there are pictures of us together, like drunk, like I would say I'm 17 this time. And in the background, like not shoulder to shoulder because there weren't that many of them, but like pretty closely spaced out were the armed guards.
Starting point is 00:32:42 You can just see the guys standing there with AKs for, it's not militia. What's the word I'm looking for? Gorilla. Gorilla, yes. They're, like, in the trees ready to fucking snipe you. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:52 It was wild. Yeah, you ever see the movie Captain Ron? No. It's a great, it's like an old 80s movie. It's got Kurt Russell and Martin Shorten in it, but, like, they get gorilla and gorilla mixed up, and he's like, yeah, there's gorillas in the jungle and he's like oh cool we'll go we'll go see the gorillas and they're fucking gorillas and they're
Starting point is 00:33:10 fucking ready to kill you that's wild that you that you did that dude insane yeah like i don't even know if i've told my parents i was gonna say i can't i could imagine polly being like you did fucking what you're in the volcano jungles with gorillas and you needed armed guards to keep you safe? The kid told us fucking that night that they had to fire one of the armed guards recently because he got shit-faced and was just firing guns around and destroyed their pools. An in-ground pool that had fucking riddled with bullet holes. You know, it reminds me of... You know in Armageddon when steve buscemi gets space dementia
Starting point is 00:33:45 yeah yeah yeah yeah you know something that's just made up i thought that was like a thing that could happen like you lose your mind in space michael bay just straight up made that up so that you can start blowing things up fucking volcano dementia dude the uh that reminds me of the clip of one of my favorite clips of all time of Affleck drunk doing the DVD extras for Armageddon and he's just like and I was asking Mike so it's the scene when
Starting point is 00:34:13 Bruce Willis is throwing shit out of the armadillo and he's like I'm telling Mike I'm like hey Mike don't you think it would probably be easier for the miners to teach the astronauts how to mine rather than the astronauts to teach the astronauts how to mine rather than the astronauts to teach the miners how to astronaut. And he's like, shut up and just do the movie,
Starting point is 00:34:30 Ben. And I'm like, it doesn't make any sense, Mike. I love just calling him Mike. Shut up, Ben. Okay, Mike. That's very funny. That movie is ridiculous. So good. I'll go with Acapulco. Senior year, spring break.
Starting point is 00:34:52 Senior year? Junior year? Sometime in college. I went on spring break. Went to Acapulco. El Abreje was the fucking club. It was like a stadium club. Like stadium seating, whatever.
Starting point is 00:35:04 Probably must have been, looking back on it, one of the last times DJ AM ever performed. Oh, wow. I mean, I don't know if it was literally, but it had to be one of the last couple years of him being alive. Yeah. And I'm so happy to check that off the list. I didn't even know.
Starting point is 00:35:20 I mean, I knew he was, but I was kind of like... I don't really. I'm not very familiar. Yeah. You know his name. You heard of him, right? But I thought, I'm not into like at that point
Starting point is 00:35:28 the Blackout Tour stuff hadn't you know I was like I'm not into like techno I'm into like rap and normal music and shit and he fucking rocked this party
Starting point is 00:35:37 I just remember he did a a Chili Peppers Snow is it called? yeah I think so blended with something else And I was like oh wait a minute This is not like house music This is like fucking cool music
Starting point is 00:35:49 And he was like in the middle And it was like I said stadium seating And I was like this dude is a god I can't even imagine that feeling Of being like in the middle of all that But I mean we were so young Too young But there was that And then that was the night
Starting point is 00:36:06 i went to senior frogs and we were throwing chairs off the balcony for yeah yeah yeah no reason that was the dumbest the dumbest thing i've ever done i was with my buddy kyle from cleveland ohio shout out to kyle if you're listening and we were at senior frogs just like a chill night and we're on this like it was sadly not a chill not we decided to change that we were on like a deck not even like a balcony just like a deck that had a fence like a wall and then over it was just trees and like the abyss i'm just sitting there just drinking and i just watched him fold up a chair i just throw it over the side. And it just went like, and then nothing. So I was like, where did it go?
Starting point is 00:36:50 Like, what did it do? And I'm not like an idiot like that. Usually I don't do, I don't like do vandalism. I don't like do dumb shit. But I was like, where'd it go? We got to find out. Fold up another chair. So we started throwing chairs off this balcony that we decidedly did
Starting point is 00:37:05 not know where they were landing for all we know it could have just been like smashing mexican babies down there and then like naturally someone from the fucking senior frog starts to see and we see them kind of like whispering to like other people and i was like we got to get out of here right now and we're like almost into a cab and like they come and grab us and are like screaming at us in spanish and yelling about chairs and i was like this is it we're going to a mexican prison or worse and they are going to be a hundred percent right like we're not going to be like we can't cry oh like this is this is unfair we were the assholes here and i think we i just went to an atm and i took out like whatever the maximum I could was. And I was like, please let this be enough.
Starting point is 00:37:45 And they thank God let us go. But I think I don't think it was the cops. I think it was like the people. Yeah. Yeah. Because I think if the cops had come, I would have been like in tears. I would have been so scared. And I never being like, well, we have one last line of defense here.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Like we're still talking to just like employees of a place. Right. But even then it's like, I'm sure the owner of senior frogs is also like part of the cartel or something you know what i mean so uh i'm sure they almost were like you know what i bet they're doing i bet they like have a net down there and they pick up the chairs and bring them back up and like this is how we rob white people we wait for them to do stupid things and and then we take their money but uh other than that that was almost i was happy that happened because i was like oh is that the same trip no i'll give you my next one in a minute i gotta get another good
Starting point is 00:38:29 story about spring break okay uh i'll go for um breckenridge colorado it's i don't really have a great story it was just awesome ski weekend that's a place i've i know the name it's it's it's like it's like tahoe or vale or aspen breckenridge i heard of if you picture like a fucking ski town in a movie, it's Breckenridge. It's fucking just perfect. I don't have a story here. It sounds like a great town for me to go to and not ski. Just drink and hang out in the hot tub in the cabin and all that.
Starting point is 00:38:56 Actually, I guess I do have a quick story. My dad used to go with his friends every year and guys ski trips. They still go to different places now. Was this the one where they got the hummers yeah yeah yeah yeah and um but there was one so i went one year and the next year i was supposed to go and i was supposed to go like for my buddies and i had an appendectomy or no it's goddamn appendectomy yes i had an appendectomy um what was polly's line like shut the fuck up let's go back to fucking sleep and uh and the uh so i'm in the hospital bed post-surgery and like we're supposed to leave
Starting point is 00:39:38 like in like three days right supposed to like leave because it was it was it was my freshman year of college so it was supposed to be like during christmas break and i had the epinectomy christmas eve um and so like we're probably supposed to go on like i don't know december 27th or whatever it was and so i call everyone i'm like i'm like yo like bro i can't i just had surgery like i can't ski i can't do anything so like i'm out on the trip and it's just a long pause everybody goes well i mean i can still go right and so they go my three best friends go which was my dad and his friends and awkward but we're still going and there was one night where my buddy graham who you've met um they went out they were drinking and my buddy Pat came home
Starting point is 00:40:26 and he was like shit faced and he couldn't find Graham and so he's like standing out in the back porch going Graham like yelling into the woods and my dad thinks it's a wolf and so he comes out and he's like Pat the fuck are you yelling about
Starting point is 00:40:44 he's like Mr. Fights we fuck are you yelling about? He's like, Mr. Fights, we lost Graham. I don't know where he is. So my dad's like, son of a fucking bitch. Are you kidding me? I got these three kids. I'm their parent. I'm responsible for them. I'm in charge of them.
Starting point is 00:40:56 So they all get in their Hummers and all the dads go out looking for him. And Graham's just drinking a beer, sledding with some kids at like 11 p.m. or midnight, whatever time it was. In the very little I know Graham, I'm like, yeah, checks out. He's like, didn't even understand why everyone's worked up. He's like, I'm just sledding. He's like, I'm just like, what are you talking about? I'm a tall boy and I'm sledding.
Starting point is 00:41:15 I'm good. Don't worry about me. I'm living. My number four, I went to the Bahamas for another spring break. Nassau, I guess. Like, not Atlantis. You know, you know like we went like just just grimy oh radisson specifically i know that because we we uh were rolling our weed in the little like uh notepad uh that the news that the oh yeah so we would always be like you want to and they were obviously terrible falling apart can't really smoke it but we were like you want to smoke a ratty?
Starting point is 00:41:45 You want to smoke a raddison? But we went – it was our senior year of high school, and we went with the – everybody's parents were like, there needs to be some parents. And there was one kid set of parents who just didn't give a fuck. And we're like, yep, we're going with Mr. and Mrs. Yep, they're going to take us. And I think my parents – like, the other parents didn't know. We were like, yeah, we'll take those parents. They those back they're like oh good there's some chaperones i'm like yeah we're gonna be chaperoning them but uh that was another we i like my crew of guys went
Starting point is 00:42:14 and we went with another crew of girls that we were all like friend zoned with but we all like thought they were hot and like them so we were happy to do it and there was there was like three incidents one night we just uh I didn't partake, but they were having fire extinguisher fights. Fire alarm goes off. Fucking hotel evacuated. Like asshole shit that, again, now at like 35, if I saw some goddamn 18-year-olds playing with fire extinguishers
Starting point is 00:42:41 making me and my kids evacuate, I would chop their fucking heads off we also have time the other day with like hockey tournaments because like when you go away to hockey tournaments and stay in hotels you always play knee hockey in the hallways and like when people came out like was this fucking old guy's problem yeah i i would strangle us absolutely you're the one playing you're banging on my doors, you assholes. One night, though, we stole, like, at the pool, there was, like, a life preserver thing that was probably more of, like, a boat where it had, like, a ring and, like, a rope. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:43:17 So we put it, like, around my body, my buddy's body, and we go and we, like, the uh to the legs of the bed like over the balcony into the into the hotel room around the legs of the bed and his idea was that he was going to rappel off the we were on the second floor but that's like still like yeah pretty high so but we we did it we we thought we were doing it smart we're like all right we'll anchor it to the bed and you can rappel down and then we had i think we had the uh like the room below or whatever so but we thought we did it all right my buddy he's got it on him and he's like ready like three two one and he repels off we just gave him way too much i retied it we did it right there was just like a hundred feet where the
Starting point is 00:44:02 rope for a 20 foot he just boom like a fucking sack of potatoes just smashed into like there was like patio furniture on the the floor below and and he like popped up like on adrenaline and we were like run everybody scatters and he just had the biggest bruise and he uh he uh had like rope burns and like the it was like night one of the trip and the rest of the trip he would just put his hands in ice water bowls just blisters everywhere and i remember him he was so shit face but you know like hey you sober up those things and i could see him looking at his hands and he was in pain but he was more just so mad at himself for doing something so stupid and he was just like my trip's ruined my trip is ruined and i was like yeah it is and of course i would never do that but
Starting point is 00:44:52 i was the one egging him on like this is gonna be so awesome and i was like yeah i ruined your trip too and then the last incident was all the girls that were there with us you know we were like going to dinner and we were like we were doing like body shots off them we're just doing like anything we could to like potentially break out of the friend zone. And there was this other crew from Westchester. It must have just been a lot of people from my town and neighboring towns went there on spring break. And there was a kid there who killed someone. I think he was drunk driving or something like that.
Starting point is 00:45:20 He was a spoiled Westchester kid. He already killed someone at this point? Yeah, no, no. He had killed someone jesus and we like heard the story and he was like tall and good looking and the girls were like fawning over him and we were like he's a murderer and they were calling him killer no they were like fighting over who gets the hookup with killer i was like this ain't right man i was like i remember thinking like how more in the friend zone can i be that they're picking murderers over me like hey do you want to just like hook up with me or that guy who's taken another life and they were like peace god the bad boy angle really works huh it really really does fucking the bahamas man um last pick right five i'm gonna go with uh
Starting point is 00:46:15 five i'll go i'll go barcelona barcelona is such a cool town that i was like 14 when i was there and like was with my grandfather and like wasn't drinking or partying or anything like that and still i'm like i still remember incredibly fondly do you know how how awesome somewhere has to be that if i was sober and i'm like that was a blast you know how hard it is for me to enjoy things like it's like i can't wait to go back some point just because like it'd be a lot more fun drinking, but it was just such a fucking beautiful, cool-ass town. Well, that would be... My last pick is a childhood
Starting point is 00:46:52 sober favorite. Long Beach Island, Beach Haven, Fantasy Island, Arcade, Barry's Ice Cream Shop, riding bikes, going to the beach, boogie boarding, all that shit. It was the last time i really had fun before like i gotta get drunk i gotta chase chicks before like all the
Starting point is 00:47:10 adult things ruined it it was the last time i was just like i got a new boogie board i got a cool bike i won a bunch of tickets at the arcade we're gonna go on the bumper cars and i fucking love that's it when you lose that innocence that. Because that shit's awesome and it's available. You can do it all the time. Once you're like, I have to get drunk. I'll still get down with it. There's some things that still play. But like an arcade or
Starting point is 00:47:35 a carnival or whatever, there was water slides there. Putt-putt. You can still do that shit. But there's a time where like, I'm happy I'm out on. You don't like carnivals i'm happy i'm out on you don't like carnivals yeah i'm just trips and uh rides and shit like that it's just insane that we used to do that like like we there was this thing from where i'm where i'm from called fall
Starting point is 00:47:55 river celebrates america and like they would just set up this fucking carnival traveling in a parking yeah in a night yeah and then like that then I would go ride the fucking rides that was insane it's crazy to think back and those are always the hardcore rides these go extra fast they go upside down
Starting point is 00:48:12 they're on some fucking meth head probably forgot this screw I mean you know how many times you put something together and you're like we got extra pieces
Starting point is 00:48:19 but whatever it's fine dude I'd rather be homeless than work at a traveling carnival so like think of how rock bottom you have to be to be like, all right, fine. I'll do this. Like, those fucking things. And pack it up.
Starting point is 00:48:30 I mean, by the way, you kind of did. What? Work for a traveling carnival. Yeah. And you shouldn't fucking think you're going to be safe there. Right. Because I don't fucking. Dude, I remember I would just be like.
Starting point is 00:48:41 Good enough. Guarding the stage. I'm like, fucking go. I don't give a shit. Fuck do I care. I don't own this. It means nothing to me. You want to destroy this wall? Do fucking go i don't get shit now fuck do i care i don't own this it's nothing to me you want to destroy this wall do it i don't give a shit do you ever go back like when you were a little bit older and you tried to do those things that like you ever go to like a childhood spot like i remember going back to beach haven and being like
Starting point is 00:48:59 let's go mini golfing and mini golf you can always have some fun but i mean there used to be like ones you would go like under a waterfall or inside a cave for this hole. I remember thinking they were like the coolest thing. Or I would go on these water slides that used to be like the biggest, coolest thing to me. And instead, they were just like, it's kind of like a slow meandering thing. And I was just like, fuck, I don't like it. Like this isn't doing it anymore.
Starting point is 00:49:19 I'm not having fun. Yeah, I need to be drunk or like having an orgasm. Fuck, that sucks. The minute you realize that you need substances or cum in order to be drunk or having an orgasm. Fuck. That sucks. The minute you realize that you need substances or cum in order to be happy, your life's fucking over, man. So let us know. Get at us on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:49:35 What are your top five vacation spots of all time? And now we're going to get into our voicemails. Plus, we've got an interview coming up with Doug Ellen and Kevin Dillon talking about Entourage, which is pretty eye-opening. There's some shit in there that I think if you're an Entourage fan, you're going to really like. But first, voicemails are brought to you by Crossrope. If you want to get in shape. Oh, shit. We back in the Crossrope?
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Starting point is 00:52:31 What's up, KFC? Bites. First time, long time. Just got a quick am I the asshole for you. A little background. So I just recently turned 20. My girlfriend's 19. I work a manual labor job.
Starting point is 00:52:50 I get to work at 6 in the morning, and I'm usually not home until around 6 o'clock, 7 at night. So I'm pretty tired when I get home. Well, my girlfriend, you know, she's in college. College is pretty close to where we grew up at. So she still lives with her parents, but they're very strict. So she has to be home by midnight. So by the time I get home, she comes over. We get something to eat, watch a little TV. One thing leads to another. We have sex. And most of the time when we're done, I roll over
Starting point is 00:53:20 and I go to fuck to sleep because I'm fucking tired. I wake up to her throwing her stuff around, getting together, and she looks at me and goes, well, you got what you wanted. I'm going to fuck home. Fuck you. And hasn't talked to me all day since. I guess she's still mad at me.
Starting point is 00:53:39 Do I have to apologize for that? I rolled over and went to sleep. I didn't intentionally blow her off uh do i apologize am i the asshole am i not the asshole he gets home and goes to sleep or no he got home they had dinner watched tv had sex and then he goes to sleep yeah the night i think that's some young girl shit though yeah i I think... 19 and 20, you're going to run into some problems where it's like... It's going to be stupid shit. As women and men age, you start realizing that just some things happen,
Starting point is 00:54:12 and it's not that big a deal. And I think falling asleep after sex is one of the more common ones. I mean, it's like a bear with a tranquilizer, Dark Girls. I'm actually not like that. I don't fall asleep very quickly. But I understand that many people do. Well, also also i don't even necessarily think it's sex i think it's like this dude gets up at five he works a 12-hour shift you're lucky you even got dinner and sex and all that shit seriously i mean but again 20 and 19 you're gonna have some like weird unrealistic
Starting point is 00:54:40 expectations or thoughts on how things are gonna go go. And I mean, that's extreme. I was going to say, like, just be like, hey, sorry. But like, I mean, I really don't think this guy has anything to apologize at all. Period. I mean, like, throw out the sorry. Yeah. Just like this is your this is your lesson. This is like one of the first times you're going to be apologizing for something you
Starting point is 00:54:59 don't have to apologize for. And there'll be many to come. But this one is particularly like like I would be an asshole and be like, listen, babe, I'm sorry, even though I don't have to apologize for and there'll be many to come but this one is particularly like like i would be an asshole and be like all right listen babe i'm sorry even though i don't have to apologize yeah this one is really extreme if you had dinner plans and date plans and you just fell asleep after dinner after work i think you can be like oh i'm sorry but even then it's like you didn't do anything wrong you know you fell asleep you're exhausted yeah like Your body is not allowing it. Would you rather me be at the dinner table
Starting point is 00:55:27 at our special date and be falling asleep in my fucking food? But... You should dump this girl. No. I don't think you have to dump her. Yeah, you do. Because it is.
Starting point is 00:55:39 It's just some young person shit just getting mad about something that doesn't fucking matter. And by the way, that'll last... It's some young person shit, just getting mad about something that fucking doesn't fucking matter. And by the way, that'll last. It's some young person shit, but it also that can last like 20 years. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You might find like a 38 year old girl who's doing the same shit.
Starting point is 00:55:53 Just happens. But that one, you can rest assured you did not do anything wrong, bro. KFC fights BC. Nick, I got a question for you. I've got a friend who she also listens to the show, so if this makes it, she will probably hear this. But she texted me. So for reference, I'm 26. She's 27, so I know a little bit younger than you guys.
Starting point is 00:56:16 She asked me if I'm interested in her friends. She sent me a picture. Great. But she throws in there that this girl is a virgin this girl is also 26 like i can i go i should not go down that road right like i i've heard the horror stories before i kind of had a fair share with a girl who didn't have much experience like it did not end well and i just just, like, this is a problem, right? I mean, I understand you guys are a little bit older,
Starting point is 00:56:48 but put yourself in my shoes when you were that age. Am I overthinking this, or is this really a no-go? Like, it's going to be more bad news. I don't think you're overthinking this at all. I think this is worth thinking about, and I think I would avoid this i i would think so too like people who are turned on by it are fucking psychopaths now those people i think legit have like issues yeah like you're i mean like you if you're into that we saw that uh
Starting point is 00:57:15 some actor like was texting somebody like dm and then like so i'm gonna break you in or like so it's gonna hurt yeah it was delia was it dalia yeah that's fucking bad yeah you're there's an ad like if if you like you're like one step above being a pedophile right you're just like you just want to take virginity if i somehow if i like fell in love with a girl and then found out she was a virgin i don't know how that could possibly be but if that happened different story to start out though i think i'd be like you know that especially if you are like not looking for something serious or whatever like that girl is going to take it seriously with you you're going to mean something more than the average person if you're worthy so to speak
Starting point is 00:57:55 like if you end up having sex with this girl i mean they have to marry her that's what i mean it's like i i don't's so much pressure dems the rules dems the rules what do you think the oldest person to ever lose their virginity before it's like a thing
Starting point is 00:58:11 I think you could be 22 I was talking to a friend the other day who has a 31 year old friend who is hot and like it's not like
Starting point is 00:58:21 some like you know a gross person who can't have sex a very attractive person I've never seen her but i'm as she's described as being very attractive 31 and it's not like saving yourself marriage or anything she's just like it just hasn't happened just that it didn't happen now that's crazy this is insane right there's like that means like we you know as soon as he's about to do it like we i murder him i'm black widow like that's there's something
Starting point is 00:58:40 going on i think if you're attractive because if're gross, you could go on like your whole life. You know what I mean? If the only thing stopping you is like you, I think 22 is the cutoff. I think if I heard 23 year old virgin, that means you're out of college and stuff. That would weird me out. I think you're spot on. 22 is like you could still be in college and be a virgin and whatever. I think you're post-college 23 years old it's just been a choice you've made many many times to not do it it's weird yeah there's like you have you
Starting point is 00:59:12 have some weird hang-ups about it yeah and like i don't i'm not interested in those exactly i like and whatever it is you've built it up to something that i cannot deliver you know so forget about like the real issues this is just like you think it's gonna be way better than it is right i i can give you i just don't get it i give you like a you you think you're getting like some big fancy dinner and i i give you i give you a dollar pizza yeah you're getting lunchable yeah i mean i i just don't i do not understand it if you're religious and all that fine if you uh really think that it's something you should really share with someone that you love, all right, fine. If you're not crazy about, like, if you're just like a, it just hasn't happened for me. Like, well, why not?
Starting point is 00:59:53 Like, why not just try it? You can go throw that thing around wherever you want. There's no down, it's not like doing drugs where it's like, oh, I don't do drugs because, like, yeah, it's bad for you. Or, like, there's no hangover from it. There's no, I mean, I guess you could be like, I don't want to – yeah, you could be terrified of STDs in pregnancy. But, like, you know, they make things to get around that. Just try it.
Starting point is 01:00:14 That, to me, is like I've never watched TV. It's like you're missing out on a huge part of life. Huge part. It's like, to me, like, it's really easy to have sex. So easy. Like, for guys and girls. It's like girls to have sex. So easy. For guys and girls. You can just do it. Girls in particular, but guys too.
Starting point is 01:00:28 It's over an average of three and a half minutes, and then that's it. It's pretty easy to just meet someone and have sex with them. Yeah. It gets built up. I'm not trying to pretend like I'm a ladies' man here, but it's fucking... You can do it. I mean, you've got to have certain standards. You can't fuck a model, but you can go find somebody who will let you do it.
Starting point is 01:00:44 Yeah, no. You can't fuck fucking Christina Rose. Oh, well, standards. Like, yeah, you can't fuck like a model, but you can go find somebody. Yeah. Yeah. No, you can't fuck fucking Christina Rose. But I'm going to see if she's on Twitter. Last voicemail is brought to you by Miller Lite. Miller Lite. You're going to kick back and share some stories, create some voicemails, create some memories that one day you could call KFC Radio and tell us about. Drinking some Miller Lite. You're going to listen to this segment right now.
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Starting point is 01:02:10 What's up, KFC? Fight, Super Producer BC. So I got a question here. Do you think you've ever been the first person in the world to do any particular thing? And if so, what was it? Also, follow-up question, what would be the coolest thing to know definitively that you were the first person to do? I got this thought when I was heating up my
Starting point is 01:02:35 pasta, and I said it to a random time, and I was like, I bet no one's ever heated it up at this fucking time before. And my friend was like, I bet probably someone has. And I was like, yep, you're probably right. Anyways, what do you guys think? Have you ever done something that no one else in the world has done? Fuck no. What could I possibly have done?
Starting point is 01:02:59 I bet you we've done something blog related. Do you think so? I bet you we've done something at Barstool that we're the only people to do it. I guess you we've done something blog related. Do you think so? I bet you we've done something at Barstool that like... I guess you're right. I don't know. When I was on Comedy Central, we were like the only... I mean, you got to get very specific with it. We're the only bloggers to have...
Starting point is 01:03:26 Maybe I'm the only person who's ever trolled ISIS. ISIS got a Twitter account and I blogged, like a blog series, just like respond to their fucking tweets, like, fuck you bitches. I was very nervous at that time. I bet. I would not fuck with ISIS.
Starting point is 01:03:42 I actually wasn't even anonymous. I don't fuck with them. I wasn't nervous they were going to kill me. I was nervous they were going to fuck up names and kill my dad. I mean, I can say I'm pretty sure I'm the only person at Deloitte and Touche to ever have a secret blog job. Yeah. To an extent. There are probably Deloitte people who have secret hobbies.
Starting point is 01:04:03 But I'm the only one who got however many readers we were getting or something like that. That's a good one. I would bet I'm... It's all got to be Barstool related because we're the only company to do what we do. So you can get pretty specific with it. But you're the only blogger to do Saturdays for the Boys. I mean, you made Tinder a thing. Oh, yeah. I forgot about that. You invented the most
Starting point is 01:04:27 popular prolific for a period of time pickup line of all time. Oh how many pushups can you do? I forgot about that. You invented the greatest pickup line of all time. I totally forgot about that. Which is crazy because you know Tinder owes you like a billion dollars. Remember when Tinder was like they were in like a New York
Starting point is 01:04:44 Times article or something like that or a New York magazine or whatever. And they're like, yeah, we don't understand it. We're just like insanely popular in New England. And I was like, I know why, you motherfuckers. It's because of me. Tinder, where my money at? Seriously.
Starting point is 01:04:57 Run me my money, Tinder. Run them pockets. That's why it was easy for you to fuck. You were just coming up with those pickup lines. How many pushups can you do? that oh girls were furious lentil would say it was just like god damn i'm trying to find love here it was like all guys do on tinder ask me how many push-ups i can do love it it's a great pickup line it is i mean it worked for a reason i bet you could bring that back now it's been it's been long enough i'm gonna try that right now yeah do it maybe not on you know like it depends on the age group but like if you do it
Starting point is 01:05:29 like with like 20 young 20 somethings now they're not gonna know that or yeah that just run it back every like seven years yeah yeah keep doing everyone on tinder right now go do it yeah dm dm so many uh how many push-ups can you do and i guarantee it'll get you a response and it'll open up a conversation it worked every single time. Guys were like, this is crazy. It's like every time it's just, it was golden. I don't know. And I remember Dave did a blog talking about how dumb it was.
Starting point is 01:05:53 And then it like really blew up. Everyone's like, wait, it's actually really working a lot. That was like the prime example. There was pretty much a few years where just like everything you said and did, Dave thought was stupid. And then eventually wore that and said that and did that yeah like all the things he didn't think were good he was like ready to cash the saturday for the boys checks he was now he's sliding in dm saying dumb things and he's wearing skinny jeans like everything you trashed
Starting point is 01:06:18 dave everything you said was stupid that was the boys that was hard to get dave to make t-shirts for that i'll get it i'm like i'm getting I don't get it. Zillion beers, too. Zillion beers, he'll tell you him challenging Dana is what made it big. But he was challenging it because he thought it was going to fail. He did that not out of some secret way to motivate.
Starting point is 01:06:39 He was just like, this is not a good idea. It's not going to work. But if it does, hey, whatever. And it fucking did. Alright, let's get into this interview. Doug ellen kevin uh doug ellen kevin dylan uh you know him as the creator of entourage and drama are uh they have a new podcast called victory where they're going episode by episode and season by season breaking down entourage and uh we got to talk to doug uh all about the writing process and Kevin talking about what it was like being on the set, including what Doug originally planned to do as a finale for Entourage. How he was going to end the series out of spite, basically, is awesome. And I'll say this about this interview.
Starting point is 01:07:21 I said this to John afterwards. I think there's a difference in East Coast guys in this world. When I talk to Doug, he's like a New York guy. And every time I talk to like – you can be in Hollywood, but if you're from New York, I just feel like you're a different dude. It's just like a different vibe as opposed to like the guys who live out there their whole lives or the people from some of these – You're saying even with Joe Manganiello. Yeah. You're a Pittsburgh bro.
Starting point is 01:07:44 You can tell. Kind of like salt to the earth. Kevin Connolly is like an Islanders fan. These guys are just like normal dudes who made it big, but you can still tell in the way they talk and act that they are East Coast guys. So let's talk a little entourage here on KFC radio. It's brought to you by Tommy John. Tommy John has done it all, man.
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Starting point is 01:10:12 Fellas, how the fuck we doing? We're doing fucking good, man. I did hit that fuck too hard. That was my first time ever saying the F word. What's cooking, man? Where are you guys right now? We're in L.A.
Starting point is 01:10:27 Where are you guys? We're in New York. We're back in our studios. But you look like you're in some sort of weird studio. But all right, let's do this. Kevin Connolly's studio. We got Spicoli back there. That's a piece of art right there.
Starting point is 01:10:38 I love it. So is the T-shirt there. So wait, the Action Park about uh is that in reference to like death trap action park from back in the day i mean yeah new jersey all right it's it is if you know action park i'm a new york guy like it's it's a niche thing but if you're from that era and you're from that region action park like that's like the code word if you guys say action park to me i'm like all right you're good people know what's up. There's a lot of good stuff in that. Actually, the Wolf of Wall Street likes to talk about getting a handjob in the Action Park pools.
Starting point is 01:11:12 I'm surprised. In the pool? Listen, who's getting tugged off in pools? Honestly, that surprises me. The Wolf of Wall Street is. They did it on a podcast with Connelly. There was kids in that pool. I can't believe it was just a handjob.
Starting point is 01:11:24 That's how crazy Action Park was. Handjobs were like par for the course. There was a lot worse going on at Action Park than that. Dude, there were five deaths, okay? Handjobs ain't shit, okay? This place is amazing. I'd rather die than swim in a cum pool. You were younger than us, but we were never even concerned about it.
Starting point is 01:11:39 People used to come back broken arms all the time, but we were always like, let's go. Let's do it. It was like the Westworld of music parks. parks like you could it had loops it had like roller coasters were like it was just fucking crazy where you had control of like how fast you were gonna go and where you were gonna land and people just break their bones all the time it was amazing there's a documentary there's a documentary about it yeah you can that's just fucking crazy it's really unbelievable out here is magic mountain so it's very no no no no
Starting point is 01:12:05 not like that not like that cam no as long as this they were like oh you hurt too bad like there was nothing now you sue him for 100 million dollars right right uh i mean it's good old stat oh good old-fashioned nostalgia which i feel like at this point uh entourage has a ton of which is weird to me because i feel like i feel like it was just, uh, entourage has a ton of, which is weird to me. Cause I feel like, I feel like it was just yesterday that I was watching it, but I guess at this point we're kind of in the nostalgia phase, especially if you guys are doing a podcast about it, it's time to like recall it and remember it. Is that weird for you? Yeah. Uh, no, I love it.
Starting point is 01:12:37 It's awesome. But is it weird? Welcome to the reboot. He's like, fuck that. To be honest with you, it really is. And you guys are younger. Like I was watching some of, you know, I'm watching episodes because we got to do it for the podcast. And I'm like, I don't even remember this stuff anymore.
Starting point is 01:12:56 So it's weird how quickly it goes. And, you know, it is nostalgia. And it's weird because all of my, you know, I actually have one of my best friends. I'll give him a shout out. Larry Ellsman's daughter is here. Like the kids are watching it now. So I have my friends call me that they're, you know, 15 to 20 year old kids are starting to find it. Thanks to Corona. Kids are now watching. But I mean, that that is kind of a thing. We talked to Brian Bumgarner from The Office.
Starting point is 01:13:22 They're doing something similar with a podcast about the show. And he said when Corona hit that, like, the number one show that young kids who weren't alive for The Office were going back to was that show. So I feel like, you know, it makes sense that you're going to reach a whole new generation now when they're watching more than they ever have before. Well, it's interesting with The Office because Netflix just blew The Office up bigger than it was when it was on TV. That's what he was saying, which was crazy. He was like, for four seasons, we thought we were getting canceled every year. Did you guys ever have that? Did you guys know, right?
Starting point is 01:13:53 Like, yo, we're a monster hit. We're good. I did. Yeah. I told all the guys, all the other actors, this show's going to be a huge hit from the pilot. No shit. Then we got picked up, and then they were worried, are we going to get a huge hit from the pilot no yeah then we got picked up and
Starting point is 01:14:06 then they were worried are we going to get another season i said absolutely what what was it like was there a single moment or something specific that you knew or just like the vibe yeah but you know i've done failed pilots before so i knew that this has got a so much more to you know that seems like it could go on and on and on and it it's so clever and fun. And the characters are so interesting. I just felt like it had legs. By the way, that's what the drinking Irish guy says. I'm the neurotic, too. I honestly thought we were going to fall for it.
Starting point is 01:14:35 Every single day, I was like, when we got nominated for Golden Globe and we lost to Desperate Housewives, I stormed out and I bumped into Larry David, who lost for Curb. I'm like, what are you upset about? He goes, what are you upset about? I'm like, I'm scared we're going to get canceled. I don't have a billion dollars in the bank. It's wild to see
Starting point is 01:14:58 The Office. Again, The Office at the time, I was like, this show is genius, but a lot of people weren't watching it. The wild thing is now Netflix put you know put them out they became the number hbo hides us you like you're like the misogynistic stepchild now so like even when i go to look at it on hbo i'm like i type in ent and all of a sudden curb comes up i'm like where's entourage really is that an issue like i mean i was just telling these guys we've i've had Jerry Ferrara on the show a couple of times. And even the way we used to just joke about it and talk about the show, I feel like is too much, let alone some of the material that was actually on the show.
Starting point is 01:15:32 But I mean, what can you do with this point? Right. Everything is of its time. When when I sold the show with with Mark Wahlberg, I wanted a show where guys spoke like guys spoke. And in 2003, that's how they spoke. Now, to be honest with you, I never spoke like that, and I don't speak like that now. But whether kids are speaking like that today, I can't tell you. I think the world is a much more politically correct place. And there's stuff I watch on Entourage now that I'm re-watching it
Starting point is 01:16:02 for Victory the Podcast, by the way. But I'm uncomfortable. I'm like, I would never say that. But the truth is, people go, could you do it today? Well, no one in any office in America would speak the way Ari spoke then, but people did then. It was very realistic to the time. So of course we could do it today. They would just speak the way they speak. It's a period piece. It's like, yeah, it's a it's a period piece it's like uh yeah it's a piece of art you know well listen you watch i loved your uh recap that i saw you do like a month or two ago
Starting point is 01:16:31 about the song and everything but the truth is is you know so much stuff over the last five years stuff that i have loved for 50 years of my life there's now stuff that makes you go whoa right i know it's wild i mean i know every single word of eddie murphy raw and delirious i can say every single word and i can't say 90 percent of it without ending my life in my career right it's crazy man no i did say that a couple months ago i think that you guys own when the hbo symbol pops up and then the the the symbol pops up and then the snow pops up, the first thing I hear is Entourage. It's a no-brainer. It's 1,000%.
Starting point is 01:17:11 And there's a lot of competition. I mean, Game of Thrones has a big one. Curb has a big one. But I hear that, and it just takes me right back to that time, which was awesome. I appreciate that. And honestly, that's one of my most nostalgic memories. I was with a bunch of my buddies when i watched it and my family the first time and when that thing came up it did it gave me chills when we're talking 2003 you know i remember talking
Starting point is 01:17:34 about the song too i was i was pitching kings of leon holy roller novakane great song we played that for the with the credits. It was really good. Between that and Superhero, of course. The music was all good. I was going to say, do you think that's one of the – what would you list as the things – the most iconic things about Entourage? Because I think music is up there. I think it was almost like – it was like a testament.
Starting point is 01:17:58 It was like a tip of the cap. If it ended in an Entourage episode, it was like, okay, you guys are the real fucking deal now. Yeah, I mean, we really, you know, we did a podcast with Scott Benner, who was my music supervisor last week. Music for me from the get go, I had written in what songs I wanted for in the pilot. It's incredibly important to me. I was kind of influenced. And as I've said on our podcast, I'm not comparing myself to Scorsese, but I was very influenced by the way he used music in his movies. And and I wanted that to be this. And we were lucky enough that HBO gave us the budget for it because, you know, early on. And again, you can see the music start to shift a little bit as Scott, as I gave him more control because I was more classic rock and you can hear the doors and the Eagles and, and, and whatever early on. But, uh, it was incredibly important,
Starting point is 01:18:47 but the most iconic things, you know, as you guys will learn, as your career goes on, that's not for me to judge, you know, it's like people will hopefully continue to find it and continue to like it. But it was definitely something that we loved making and definitely, uh, did not make to insult people or to, you know, offend or whatever. Yeah, yeah. We had Sasha Gray on the show recently, and I was telling her that one of the most iconic things that I remember from the episode is her bush.
Starting point is 01:19:11 I was like, Sasha going bush out was a big moment for the boys. I thank you for that. I don't know whose idea that was, but thank you. I was like, do you think you started a bush resurgence? She's like, actually, I do now that you mentioned it. So people on set were like, yo, is that a Bush? And I was like, yeah, I know you watched me fucking porn before. That was like the Billy Walsh line, too.
Starting point is 01:19:33 He's like, I'm going to bring back the Bush. Yeah, she did. I'm going to bring back the wide Bush. And by the way, obviously, still didn't bring it back. Obviously, women's choice, that was Sasha's choice. And there was a reason behind that, because she said it doesn't look good in hd so you know that's what that was her line and uh really that's amazing and sasha was sasha was amazing and uh you know was such a regular person which was the only i swear to you and some people did not like that
Starting point is 01:20:02 season and that storyline go fuck yourself yourself, whatever. Right, dude. I love that season. I'm a big season seven guy. That was Doug's dark year. Is there a reason it took that turn, though? Or were you just like, I don't know? There was 100% a reason, and maybe that was my fault, but I would read these stupid fucking message boards,
Starting point is 01:20:21 and people were starting to go, everything works out. Everything's always good. So I'm like, I were starting to go everything works out everything's always good so i'm like i'm gonna go i'm gonna go dark so i went dark but sasha was the only adult i'm gonna be careful with every word i say now but the only adult film star i would have because she didn't look like a porn star right and she really like if you said she went to princeton you would have bought it and honestly spending time with her as you guys did you could feel that yeah and and the best thing was because I remember the message boards on that were like why didn't they get a real
Starting point is 01:20:48 porn star and then like somebody would write back you know what you should look up her work hang on that's a real fucking porn star Michael Jordan's in the show and it's like why did you get a real basketball player like that she's one of the all time fucking greats man let's show some respect we asked her and she didn't even flinch
Starting point is 01:21:04 like where do you because we used to do a show with asa akira and we asked her like where does she rank herself on the pantheon of porn stars and she was like oh i don't know like 20 or whatever number she said it was like and and and sasha just goes oh no i'm top 10 yes she knows she knows the deal she's the real deal the real deal and she was great she was honestly awesome to work with and you guys got to help get us, get her for our podcast. Oh, for sure. For sure. Do you have any regret about like, I try not to ever let message boards, comments, any of that like impact what I actually do.
Starting point is 01:21:38 Of course, maybe it bothers you. But then to put, you know, I'm going to change the way I write or I'm going to do something. Any regrets there? Are you happy with how that came out? You know what? No, I don't have change the way I write or I'm going to do something. Any regrets there? Are you happy with how that came out? You know what? No, I don't have any regrets because I think I listen to people. I mean, you know, there's a couple of things. If you remember the show well, I mean, people people wanted to know why Medellin was a bomb.
Starting point is 01:21:55 I thought it was a big hit when I wrote it. And then we shot this trailer that Mark Milad, who's one of the best directors in the world, bid who does Game of Thrones and does Succession. He made this trailer, and all of a sudden, all the message boards said it looked like shit. Vince's makeup looked terrible, this and that. I'm like, huh. So I made it a bomb, and it actually,
Starting point is 01:22:14 I think it worked better for storytelling. Wow, interesting. You know, the thing about, I think, any writer is, you listen, and then you take in what makes sense to you. I mean, I would get the same type of shit from these guys. I would get comments and criticism. I gave you a hard time when you made a drama too hard on turtle. He was my assistant. Really? I was like, these,
Starting point is 01:22:35 you got to cut these bananas thinner. See, that was the best. We love that. They did on the message board. They're like, drama's become a real asshole. The thing I knew with Kevin is he could do anything and get away with it because you like him. You just like him. You redeemed my character at the end of that scene.
Starting point is 01:22:56 Yeah, but I do listen. I take in other people's comments. And no, I don't have any regrets, to be honest, about anything. People can say whatever they want. My only regret about the movie is that it didn't come out a year and a half earlier because I really think the culture was shifting the movie. I spent a lot of time trying to make it as similar to seasons one and two, which seemed to be people's favorites. And I think we accomplished that. We we tested through the roof and marketing, but the world was really
Starting point is 01:23:23 changing and we didn't even know it. The Me Too movement was right around the roof and marketing but the world was really changing and we didn't even know it the me too movement was right around the corner and all of the reviews were this is the most misogynistic thing which really i didn't know that yeah and the show was really like oh this is the best show on tv right you did the same exact thing yeah the same thing so cultures do shift and you have to adjust to it i usually was ahead ahead of the curve, but I missed it on that one. And also we got stuck. I mean, we couldn't get the movie done early enough and whatever it is, what it is. But I don't have any regrets on anything because it was a great experience.
Starting point is 01:23:53 It wasn't us, fellas. It wasn't us. Now, was Vinny single in the movie as kind of like a fix for the end? Because I think people didn't really love him getting married. Was that why? Like he was right away like, all right, he's single now. Never mind. Fuck it. fix for the end because i think people didn't really love him getting married was that was was that why like he was right away like all right he's single now never mind fuck it yeah that was that was part of it also alice eve who's amazing was like you know doing huge movies so we weren't gonna get her anyway so but i wanted the movie to have the guys back together as much
Starting point is 01:24:20 as possible i wanted to keep them like as that original core because even looking like i said looking at season seven and eight i was just scanning through for some things today i'm like god who are all these people there were so many other characters the early years were really as much as possible of these four guys together right so uh you know people have preferences to whatever it is but still no there are no regrets it was a great run and uh you know i i love that having them back together because it is we we actually we are no regrets it was a great run and uh you know i i love that having them back together because it is we we actually we had steve-o on the show last week i think and we were talking about how jackass was one of the shows that really like taught you what male friendship was and like my other one's entourage yeah my entire like my entire life is
Starting point is 01:25:00 just based on what you taught me is it is it like that how are you guys in real life are you all tight yeah yeah i mean you know i mean me and duggar yeah certainly and i mean adrian yeah i mean we don't see adrian as much he's saving the world around i was well i was just gonna say i feel like when people learn who adrian is it's you know he's different he's an actor guys he's not really vinny chase and i think sometimes that like fucks with people but yeah but honestly he's got so much of that energy that that vince had he really is just a carefree kind of good spirit who likes to take care of other people but i mean kevin kevin jerry and i are have been you know we we've stayed in close contact but i still speak to adrian as well but uh you know the behind the scenes were very
Starting point is 01:25:45 similar to in front of the camera in terms of the dynamics between us and honestly i i feel weird like promoting but victory the podcast you hear it between us it feels like the show even though it's not scripted yeah because we bust on each other we make fun of each other it's just like what it is i think kevin got excited there's like yeah we do yeah we know i can't I can't go back and listen to any Of my podcasts I don't like looking at any Of the videos I make are you Is it weird for you at all like ever when you see Yourself is there anything where you're like oh man I can't
Starting point is 01:26:14 Believe I said this or did that or it's all good He loves himself Sometimes I do Look at a scene I go I wish I did that differently I wish Doug didn't steer me down that Road But no for the most part Sometimes I do look at a scene and I go, I wish I did that differently. I wish Doug didn't steer me down that road. But no, for the most part, watching Entourage, I could watch any episode.
Starting point is 01:26:32 I love watching it. I don't really listen to the podcast. Because I'm there. I already said it. Yeah, you know the deal. It's the first three I listen to. It was the first show for me that I think, like, I'm a pretty big TV nut now. And I feel like the first show I ever, like the first premium channel show show where it was like, I'm going to watch this week to week. And it has a season long arc, all that shit.
Starting point is 01:26:51 I think it was entourage for me. So I think it put it on to, you know, every other HBO series and every other, you know, hit series. So really paved the way for probably me and a lot of people my age. And by the way, Obama, you posted that too president obama's favorite show really barack watching every night he wouldn't miss it by the way you can google that it's interesting to read about which he would never be allowed to say today we were supposed to have ari you know his his brother was chief of staff first and we were supposed to go to the white house and actually screen it but again i i'm telling you like the culture started shifting and all of a sudden like obama even
Starting point is 01:27:28 saying that he thought entourage was a good show like that feels like a trump show maybe that's one of my favorite uh one of my favorite things that's ever happened really is who's the fucking star of uh homeland uh damian miller damian lewis damian lewis like uh obama loves season one of of homeland so damian lewis before it came out he before i came out on dvd he gave him the first season on dvd and signed it from one muslim to another like obama it's like yeah it's like obama's favorite gift he thought it was fucking hilarious i think what's what's great about the podcast is um and you can check it out victory the podcast download to listen to it now it's a week you're going episode by episode right yeah but we're
Starting point is 01:28:17 also you know we're doing entourage but we're also talking our lives and right you know our 50 years in hollywood and sure, I guess come in, we'll just talk about what that guest, right? We'll talk about Sasha's Bush. I get it. Wait, actually,
Starting point is 01:28:31 you know what we just read before we came in here, you know, everybody always says it's loosely based on Mark Wahlberg's life. And then Wikipedia said that it was more tightly based on your life, which sounds like it's not about either of your lives. Then it's just a fucking story. It was, it was,
Starting point is 01:28:44 it's a story, but of course it was inspired by mark's life but the first thing i said to him is like i don't really know your friends like i need to i need to make this new york and i need to make just my friends while using because i'm not a movie star and i haven't had the rise that mark had which is basically also part of the the struggle of the show everyone's like you know why does everything work out? I'm like, because it all works out for fucking Mark. It did. Look at Mark Wahlberg, man.
Starting point is 01:29:09 It fucking worked out. I try to keep them down so much more than like Mark's actual life. But the truth is, I wanted a Sunday night that you had fun and you felt good. Yes. Yeah. You know what? Every fucking showrunner and writer tries to get so cute with it now. And I think there's something to be said. I think the reason why every show with the finale always kind of drops the ball.
Starting point is 01:29:30 It's because you're afraid to wrap it up in a bow. And it's just like, just fucking wrap it up. People like it. Just give them what they want and let the haters fucking cry about it. Yeah, well, I'm going to wrap it up. Well, I actually I do like I do like all our endings but i'll end it with this i mean i did because i was so tired of people like they started doing sketches oh everything's all good and making fun of us i was gonna kill vince in the finale oh you should have done that you definitely either wrap it up or burn it down i like how kevin went the exact. Wrap it up or burn it down. That's fucking great. Can you imagine drama as a pallbearer? Oh!
Starting point is 01:30:09 Okay, so Wahlberg, who really was the fucking best producer ever and was supportive and helped us get one. We needed Tom Brady, Scorsese, James Cameron, whatever. But he called me up and said, are you out of your fucking mind? How were you going to kill him? What was going to be the cause of death?
Starting point is 01:30:26 It was going to be an OD or something. Yeah. Oh, that would have been dark and great. And no one would have seen it coming. Nobody. You know, they were,
Starting point is 01:30:35 they were again, no regrets, but we were getting this negative energy towards the end of the show, which I look back on it now. I'm like, fuck you. You know, like I wanted people. And I do think the art corner audience on sunday night they left at the end
Starting point is 01:30:50 of eight seasons and they felt good it wasn't you know so but i wanted to shock the shit out of people i think mark was right he was definitely right the OD is perfect too because I still remember when it's season 7 when Vinny's in the hospital and it's just a ziplock bag of coke like it is the most cocaine you've ever seen
Starting point is 01:31:18 in your life and it's like this was in Vin's pocket like I don't think that could fit in Vin's pocket when the show started I was just like This was in Vin's pocket. Like, I don't think that could fit in Vin's pocket. It's so funny, though, because when the show started, I was just like, like cocaine. I was like, it's such a dirty drug. That's not going to be what this show is.
Starting point is 01:31:35 This is not a bunch of, like, drug addicts in Hollywood. This is going to be like good guys in Hollywood, kind of, you know? And, you know, but I still, I love the Sasha stuff. That was your dark, dark year. Listen, get the band back together. Shoot one more scene. You'll break the fucking internet with a Vinny Chase death scene. Just do it. Is there any truth?
Starting point is 01:31:51 Didn't Piven say recently that there's maybe a reboot or a spinoff or whatever coming? Maybe he's writing it, but I'm not. It did sound like he was angling for himself. I might do a Johnny Drama spin. There you go. Come on, baby. The whole Hollywood thing. Listen, again, the show to me, like Piven was incredible.
Starting point is 01:32:15 There's nobody on earth that could have been better in that role. But the show, what always was the thing for me, was the four guys were the core and the friendship and the loyalty of it is far more interesting to me than Hollywood stuff. stuff so i don't even want to watch hollywood in 2020 to be honest with you but uh but you know that it it we had its run the only thing i would even contemplate anymore is animated which we've talked about a little bit but um bananas baby yeah entourage fans will put out watch anything you guys put out so uh well done i thought it was it's iconic shit and uh thanks for the memory so speaking of i noticed you're wearing a median
Starting point is 01:32:51 t-shirt is that and by the way i don't normally wear stuff like this i don't know why i saw this in my draw today and i'm like you know what i'm doing the podcast why not so it's a great fucking t-shirt but if you had to list Vinny's movies, which would be your favorite in order? Well, it's got to be Scorsese. I don't know. He had such great directors. Darabont and Cameron. But Medellin, I had a special place in that.
Starting point is 01:33:17 You know what? This came up. My name's in this, Ellen. Slick. Slick. But I wrote the book Killing Pablo, and i wish i was smart enough to go why don't i make this a real movie because they've done like obviously narcos yeah yeah but i read it on a vacation and i thought that this would be like an amazing movie and the billy walsh character
Starting point is 01:33:38 is one of all of our favorite like guest cars so that would probably be my my one that i'd actually like to see and review. I think people might revisit Medellin. I think it was better than it was back then. I think Viking Quest was better. Well played. Alright, so it's called Victory the Podcast. It's Kev, Doug, and the rest of the guys going through the series and
Starting point is 01:33:58 the seasons of Entourage. So go give it a listen and thanks for the memories, boys. Thank you so much, guys. Great talking to you. Victory! Victory! listen and thanks for the memories boys thank you so much guys great talking to you i've got some issues that nobody can see and all of these emotions are pouring out of me i bring them to my life The soundtrack to my life To my life
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