KFC Radio - Klemmer Gained 40 Pounds Since Starting at Barstool - Full Interview

Episode Date: April 17, 2025

Timecodes: 0:00 Start 00:32 Feits frequently eats from the trash 07:35 Feits thinks he s**t his pants this weekend 14:20 Klemmer has gained 40 pounds and is much happier since starting Barstool 20:32 "Alcohol is poison" 28:38 Nobody's making money these days 53:05 AI p**n titles 01:03:22 Klemmers attempt to watch all big theatre movies +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Kraken: Go to https://kraken.com/barstool to learn more X-Chair Go to https://www.xchair.com and use code KFC100 for $100 Off Orders of $500 or moreYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/kfcr

Hey, KFC radio listeners, you can find every episode of KFC radio on Apple podcast, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. And it was just crippling anxiety when I got hired here. I was just a train wreck. I just I felt like I didn't belong. I didn't know kind of like I'm old. Everyone's young, everyone's so talented.

What am I going to do? What am I gonna do? Final break just picked up a Lucy off the floor and pop that in yeah, I was thinking I was sitting down I was like I only got one Lucy left I don't was gonna get me through this interview and I saw but it hadn't just dropped. It's probably been there for a while Oh, it's been there for that's probably been there for weeks. Well, what does it matter? But it hadn't just dropped. It's probably been there for a while. Oh, it's been there for a while. It's probably been there for weeks But what does it matter? Mmm. It's a disgusting floor. Yeah, it's a floor. Please. People walk on the floor.

Do you think that- do you have any idea? The floors I've fucking eaten off of in my life? Are you fucking kidding me? What do you think is- what are you talking about right now guys? What do you think is the grossest thing you've ever done? The grossest thing you've ever done? Just like if you had to put it like what's the grossest thing you've ever done? I got a bad answer. I don't think I've ever done- I don't think I'm that gross. I don't think I've ever done. Grossest thing you've ever done? Just like if you had to put it like, what's the grossest thing you've ever done? I got a bad answer. I don't think I've ever done, I don't think I'm that gross.

I don't think I've ever really done anything that gross. You just did something gross. No I didn't. What? I had a fucking nicotine pack off the floor. First of all, it was not a used one, because I would be able to tell that. So it was... I would sincerely hope that you wouldn't pick up a used nicotine pouch covered in your or someone else's dead saliva and pop that bad boy back in there is literally

Nothing you could put on this floor that if I wanted to eat it. I wouldn't eat You can put a bowl of soup on the floor If I was like that was a good-looking gumbo. I'd ring it out. I will say this I don't eat things off the floor out of Optics and not like I don't really care. Yeah, I don't eat things off the floor out of optics and not, like, I don't really care. Yeah, see, and I like the optics. Remember when we had garbage gate at the old office, somebody ate a donut out of the garbage? Yeah, oh, I know who it was.

Who was it? No way. By too, my suspicions. Did he ever get caught? No, it's just my suspicions did that she ever get caught no, it's just my suspicions it's This was a young lady who's a young lady who ate a donut So it was like a donut right it would know something it was something it was maybe a cannoli because it was mine It was a pastry I had thrown it away

And then someone ate it and it was like in this one spot of the office We've got the eye in the sky, but you couldn't And it was like in this one spot at the office where we had the eye in the sky, but you couldn't see, it was like the perfect crime. And so we had like a whole, and I don't even know how it became a thing, or it was like, how they even knew. Did she have no other options? Like why would you choose this?

I think she saw John eating it. He, she was like, where is that? He was probably like, I don't know, I threw it out. And she's like, I want it. I think that's how it went down. But like that, I wouldn't have a problem eating that out of the garbage other than I'm at barstool And everyone's gonna like catch me and it's gonna be that home totally I mean I've had that I was definitely at home It's your garbage dude. I mean like garbage something you're throwing away. You don't wind around anymore like I'm gonna get actually mad about this

You wouldn't eat out of your own trash If I put like if there was like a like old like rotten milk in there or something like fine But like my garbage but my garbage is like if I throw out like an Amazon box and like a bag and like it's like Like that kind of trash and then like there's some food on top of that. Yeah, dude. I Yeah, I get in that in that exact circumstance. It's like somewhat forgivable It's still like garbage. Yeah, but that doesn't so if you let's say you are you have a delicious little Treat of some kind. Okay, you throw it out. Let's say you're trying to lose weight or not you but I don't you're trying to eat Better, I'm not gonna eat any better. So you throw it out and then you're like fuck. I really want that again

You're all by yourself in your own home. It's your garbage. You will say, I'm not eating that. Yeah. Okay. I can give you the exact opposite example. There was one time I was living with a lady and I threw out some sour patch kids. They were just a little... You guys eat sour patch kids enough to be able to tell you a stale batch.

Oh, yeah. Of course. It's the texture. It's thick. Yeah. It's getting chunked. I don't say trunky is not the right word, but like on the right word like yeah, I feel like glue into yes, okay So we all know kind of sour patch kids they were I had a couple I said I don't really feel dealing with these

Through them out. Yeah next night going back around there next night roles on I'm laying on the couch going boy Would I like some fucking you know, you know, it's better than that's no sour Roads is medium sour bad guys like you know And the woman I live with was in the bathroom at the time. And I thought, boy, is this a perfect time to go get some Sour Patch Kids out of the trash. And I was really dedicated to my mission. So I was like head down in the barrel, going through stuff, and looked up and made eye

contact with the saddest eyes I've ever seen in my life. And she was just standing there like, what are you? Yeah, and I had already I was in it So I thought this out. I was wearing a cardigan. I was like just getting kind of comfy. I'd already filled a pocket So I had like I was like head down in a barrel I had a handful of Sour Patch Kids already I looked up like that when I heard a noise And she's like what are you doing? And I was like, did you eat the Sour Patch Kids you threw away last night?

She knows you well. And I was like, yeah, I did. And she started laughing. I took her hand and put it in my pocket. And I was like, I was like a squirrel. I was like, you think that's all the nuts I got? Look at all these ones. Yeah, I mean, I'm not a germ guy at all.

I'll put my fucking hand on the subway pole. I'll put my hand on the escalator. But then you wash your hands immediately afterwards. Oh, that's gross. Sydney's so gross, too. I have gotten better about that, probably through COVID, when I started to watch all these things on germs and realize,

and sometimes you can almost feel it on your hands when it's gross like that, but like for the most part, yeah. Now, if I ride the subway to dinner, I will wash my hands before dinner. But- But if, oh, but let's just say I forgot or I didn't, I wouldn't let, I'd be like, I don't know.

Yeah, like if I rode the subway at 2 p.m. and then go to dinner until six and I hadn't, like I wouldn't. Yeah. I don't immediately get on the subway and wash my hands. First thing I do when I get home, first thing I do when I come to work, wash my hands. No, dude. See, I'll do it when I go home, I don't, like I't immediately get on the subway and wash my hands first I do when I get home for San Duane to come to work watch man. No, dude. See I'll do when I go home I don't like I'm not getting the opposite watch man's very first hand. I use the subways are just so you're definitely right there They're kind of right. No, I mean it probably like millions of people ride them every day and we're just fine

Yeah, but like everyone goes home and like nothing everyone's like sick all the time I'm never sick like and I think a lot is because like I think you wash your hands You're not likely to get sick. I don't think I don't think I get sick that I get stomach stuff. I get but like that So robust John every day will be like, you know, I've got food poisoning again. It's like it's not food poisoning It's just like you eat like a pack wrap. Yeah spoiled food. Yeah spoiled food. Oh, yeah Like a pack rat yeah spoiled food you have a spoiled food. Oh, yeah Oh, yeah, for sure The job also will openly open up like the fridge back. This is expired also like expiration dates. That's another I don't believe it

Yeah, yeah, but John will eat something that is like forget about what the date says it is visibly and like taste wise smell wise Rancid he will eat. I'll cut off the bad part though. That's so gross I like I'll cut like if it like if I like say I got a loaf of bread in the cabinet cut off the bad part though. That's so gross. Oh, like I'll cut, like if it like, if like say I got a loaf of bread in the cabinet. Cut off the mold? I just rip off the mold. Even though that means that the other parts of the bread were like one minute away. But I got there beforehand.

I cut the red wire. You know? When my dad was a bachelor in the 70s, he got chicken and I guess it went bad. And he, I think he just got home. He's like, oh fuck it, I'll just cook it. And he got so sick, he was hospitalized. And he in like from the day I was like three years old Like it was just beaten in my head like do not eat spoiled food like expires. You gotta throw it out, dude

See well the same lesson a teacher child the same thing happened to me and I just went the opposite way with it I also I got E. Coli from spoiled meat. I'm just gonna keep doing this. I have an iron stomach. I was like whatever I Spoiled me. I'm just gonna keep doing this till I have an iron stomach. I was like whatever I This is kind of on the same place the same level Friday night I'm pretty sure I shit my pants I'll tell you what's more concerning is that you don't know whether you did or not That's a pretty clear black black briefs. Yeah, we still know where they like it Look, I didn't like dump my pants, but like here's the deal. I was trusted on fart

It was we were doing stand-up in Providence and it was before I I like you go on stage with shit pants. Yeah Oh, it's you shows two shows It must smell it was shit. No no one look look I whatever it was it was contained within the pants because like we were in a green room No bigger than you know We were this there's much this much space from TV to here like there was people would have commented No one commented nothing, and I didn't really here's what happened. I went to go. I get the normal physio I don't really get nervous doing stand-up. It's like in that room. Yes, but I don't I do get the I get like the a little I get a little

Anxiety, but my my body's physiological responses are pretty extreme Like I pee ten times before I get on stage. I pee every two minutes and this weekend Farts were added to the mix So like I was in the green room beforehand like I am So like I was in the green room beforehand like I am And then I was about to go on and I was like I'm gonna get one more out and then I was pretty sure Like obviously I guess you have to go on you have to do your seven when you get back off Do you music wipe like I gotta take care of this? I didn't even check I figured just like don't look under the hood kind of deal

You know that did you go home? I went home I took my black boxes off and showered again it was it wasn't like some fucking nightmare of a mess But I think I farted pretty hard It's a hard fart I need like a like I hope there's already picture video of you from I need one of those posts right now Like he doesn't know it, but it's about to shit his pants before going on stage POV dude, I told myself I wasn't gonna tell that story Bro I was like John we're just gonna die with this one

I just like the first thing you had like really sharted like you really and you had to go on stage And you just like really sharted, like you really, and you had to go on stage and you just like smell like shit. Because poop without water smells so bad. I'm sure there are people out there who have done that. Like, hey, this is my only chance for stage time, like I had an emergency. Like, I don't care if I was about to meet the president, shout out Al Roker, I don't care if I was at the White House. I don't care what I did. You know that story, right? Al Roker shit his pants at the White House? He did? Yeah.

I don't know which administration it was, but he went to the White House and he Shit his pants I told him like in his book He probably was a lot like John like I'm never gonna tell you one Publisher clear or you know go to his publisher. So I shit my pants The second there's a moment of gap in hair. You know But yeah, I don't care what I needed to do or what was supposed to be done, if I shit my pants, like the night's over.

Oh yeah. I'm going home to clean up. All right, you want me to add one more wrinkle? Actually I say that, but the one time, the one time as an adult I shit my pants, I was out with a young lady and I finished through the night. So like I-

How, you're like finished through the night? Yeah, so we were together I we were together we were neck It was an ex I like met up with her again It was like one of those things was like our game mad together night And everybody you know everybody else went home. It was me and her like left alone. I went to the bathroom It's at the urinal. I don't know what happened. I'm not really that guy I'm not like a big poop shit fart pants guy kind of guy, but I I Fucked up like a big poop shit fart pants kind of guy, but I fucked up.

I fucked up. I fucked up, yeah. And so I threw the boxers out in the bathroom. Okay, all right. And then I went home, and when we got back to my apartment, like she went to the bathroom or something, and I ran into my room and put a pair of boxers on so that she wasn't like,

were you not wearing underwear tonight? So, but I, you know, and yeah. Wow. Finished through, but that's the only time like as an adult that really had a night like that I think at this point in my life I think I would make up a lie and be like Or I would say like I'm having stomach problems and I'm if I don't go home

I'm gonna shit my pants like I just did I had a real sales job and I was living in Astoria and I had to go meet a client in Baltimore and I walk in my apartment and I'm walking we had to like zip cars In this garage like a block away. I'm walking zip the car and I farted and it was a bad fart. I'm like, that smells gross. I'm like, all right, whatever. But I felt okay. I get in the car and now I'm on the bridge. Like you have to go through like Staten Island

to get to like New Jersey, that way. And I'm in turmoil and I'm like white knuckling and I'm like shaking and like, you know, and of course there's really no way to pull over. There's no breakdown lane. There's no rush hour traffic. I'm in my suit. Cause I'm going to a sales meeting. So I'm in my suit, because I'm going to a sales meeting.

So I'm in a full suit. I'm white knuckling it. And right when I get off the bridge, it just leaks out. It just spills out. And it's just like there's nothing you can do to even like, and you're trying to sit. Now I'm trying to sit differently, so it doesn't like get on my suit even more.

So you're trying to elevate your butt. And everything's kind of damp down there, and you're like, oh my god. Going 120 now, because you just hammered in the back of the... Well, no, you can't, you're in traffic. It's the worst part. Oh, man. And then, so, you know, New Jersey has rest stops

every like three minutes. Yeah. So, the second I get off, I pull in the rest stop. That's the shame of it all. If you weren't in traffic, you're gonna be like another mile, you'd be fine, yeah. I would've been fine. And I run into the rest stop, luckily it was overnight visit,

so I had like a suitcase with me. So I bring the suitcase with me in the bathroom and I pull on my pants. It's just a mess. And I'm trying to do a clean up. Meanwhile I have, I do have a meeting I do in Baltimore. I was able to clean up pretty well. But, and I obviously cleaned up the suit and everything the best I could. But there was a tiny little like, I say the size of, like a pinky now, brown, that was in those suit pants until I got rid of those suit pants. So for a couple years, I'd always have that nice little memory of, oh, that's right, couldn't quite make it over the bridge.

The addition of your suitcase, the added wrinkle of my issue was that my luggage was sitting as close to me as Kevin is. It was Friday night, so I'd taken the train and I went from the train to the venue. Could have changed. I could change. I was just locked in though. It's in there and you don't even notice the fights. You're like how do you do that in the green room full of comics? You're like oh I gotta take my suitcase somewhere. Come back in completely different clothes. Yeah right. Nothing changed.

These are my lucky stand up pants guys. Doing that would say okay here's what we're doing the late show about tonight. Totally. Everyone's going up and doing like 20 minutes on fuck and I'm like, that guy shit his pants the whole time. There is just something funny, I mean we've been doing this for a long time and you just get a few fellas talking about their shit mishaps. You can tell the episode's Jackie's not on.

Poor girl's gonna have to edit this one. God damn it. So I'm very proud of myself. You mentioned like losing, I don't need to lose weight, which is true. I don't need to lose weight. Putting them on. I am now, according to BMI, for the first time in my life, not adult life, life, I am a healthy weight.

First time, whole life. Whole life. I didn't even say that, I'd assume adult weight first time whole life whole life I said that I'd assumed adult life the whole tell the people what your low watermark was as an adult for weight Well, the low was after my divorce my low what I hit 108. I'm six foot. I'm six foot one six one one Oh, I'll say this. I wasn't gonna say this. I'll say it. Uh, my lowest weight of bars was 109 when I got hired, I hadn't eaten in, like really eaten in like almost a month. And I don't, I have like,

when I say I don't eat, I just have like horrible anxiety and like I just don't have an appetite. And any day I eat, I just shit out. And it was just crippling anxiety. When I got hired here, I was just a train wreck. I just, I felt like I didn't belong. I didn't know kind of like, I'm old, everyone's young,

everyone's so talented. What am I gonna do? It was just like I didn't belong I didn't know kind of like I'm old everyone's young everyone's so talented What am I gonna do? It was just like said crippling anxiety. I had no friends. Did you ever think about not working here? Oh, I would go home every night and cry to my wife But why not why why did you torture like well? I could so here's what happens. I mean like I wanted to do content my entire life Okay, I get to do Kirk show right? Yeah, like Kirk Kirk has me on for a year. I did that show for a year. I get to do Barstow Idol. I do the show. I finished in eighth place, but then Dave, Dave Portnoy like says, oh, I'm interested in this guy. What did you do on Idol that like jumped out? I was just kind of weird. I was like, I think the video that Dave saw was me and Brandon talking about 1980s braves. And I looked weird. I was like, all right, plus I was

so skinny. I mean, that is, you know, the polar opposite of who usually gets hired, but either be really skinny or really fat. Yeah. Right. And, you know, get hired. And now we're like we're selling our house in New Hampshire. So like I'm uprooting my wife and my dogs and and my entire life. I'm moving away from my family to come back to, you know, come back to New York. I don't have a place yet. I'm going every night to go to a hotel. I don't have any friends.

So like I would work, you know, whatever, nine to five or nine to six. And I would go to this hotel and just sit there by myself. And then weekends I would go home to the hamster. I sell my house. I don't, I don't know anyone at work. I was just a basket of, you know, Kirk hates me. Rico hates me.

I don't have any friends. I don't know what I'm doing. I was just like, I don't know where to turn. I was, you know, big cat hated me. Like, I'm like, I don't know what to do. Big Cat hated me. I'm like, I don't know what to do. And it took me, honestly, until that ski trip. We went on in December. And we were all in a ski house.

And that was like, oh, I actually hang out with people and built a camaraderie and built friends. I feel a lot better now. But what made you want to do content if it was such a struggle? Because I love doing content, I just couldn't get out of my own crippling fear for the first six months I was here.

Like I wasn't even tweeting. That's impressive, like I don't think I would push through it if I had that much. Well you also just, but you also just sold your house and your wife, like depend, wasn't like I could just, cause I would go home and I'd be like, I wanna quit, and my wife's like, you can't just hold a house. I'm like, fuck!

You're right, yeah. Gotta go to work tomorrow, you know, and like, you know, we're in this Airbnb, and I was just like, this is like, and I was just in it, and meanwhile, I'm like, I finally You're right, yeah. Gotta go to work tomorrow, you know, and like, you know, we're in this Airbnb, and I was just like, this is like, and I was just in it. And meanwhile, I'm like, I finally had the thing I want. I finally had the dream job. I finally got what I wanted.

Ain't it the way, man. And I'm the most miserable I've been in years. I'm like, what the fuck is wrong? And then you hate yourself. You're like, what the fuck is wrong with me? And then, but then it all like works out. Like, it's like, you know, but anytime you go and get a new job, it's hard,

because you don't know anyone. I'm sure people who listen to this can relate. Like, you get a job that you've always wanted, you get a job, and it's like, oh, fuck. you go and get a new job, it's hard because you don't know anyone. I'm sure people listening to this can relate. Like you get a job that you've always wanted, you get a job and it's like, oh fuck. Like kind of dog chasing its tail. I got what I want and now maybe I'm not happy. And is that like- I think that's a lot.

I mean, I saw a bunch of memes floating around with the Katy Perry, Gayle King stuff. Gayle King came back with that face that was kind of like, like she had her hair was disheveled and she was kind of like, it was almost like, fuck this. Like, why did I do that? There was a couple of memes that were like, you know, like coming home from the the first day of work for the job I prayed for and I got it

What have I done? Yeah, and I was I was at 109 and now I'm 141 so I got That's a diesel in what two years almost yeah Yeah, I mean I guess looking at you you don't look like as big of a freak, but I wouldn't say he looks like what once you said you put on weight I could very clearly see it I went so I went back last night and I looked at some clips of me like when I got hired and like my cheekbones They're so gone like, you know, like don't get wrong I'm still crazy skinny and like the BMI thing is crazy like the day did this is a healthy weight is wild Right, but um, yeah, but you're looking it's like, oh no, like my pants like I'm on the two belt buckle

I was on like the four and five, you know before it's like, oh, yeah, but you're looking it's like, oh no, like my pants like I'm on the two belt buckle I was on like the four and five, you know before it's like, oh, yeah You can see that God but yeah, and a lot of it was from quitting drinking. Yeah, well that'll do it But yeah, you quit and you gained weight. Yeah, right cuz the drinking I got most people's experience like drinking I didn't realize how much like it upset my stomach. I would have like diarrhea like twice Like emergency like I gotta go and I must have been some sort of allergy I got or whatever it is. And then when you have diarrhea, you don't have an appetite, you don't wanna eat.

So it's like, all right, so it's kind of a, and then once I quit drinking, I just started replacing it with juice. And I feel like, and I don't, I say quit drinking, I'll drink on social occasions. I've had six since mid-January total drinks. But I used to drink like one or two every single night. Yeah. Look, if you're gonna one or two every single night. Yeah.

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and is offered to US customers, excluding Washington, New York, and Maine through Payward Interactive Incorporated. Yeah, you said that the other day and some people were like, can you believe that? And I was kinda likeated yeah, you said that the other day and some people were like you believe that and I was kind of like well You know first of all people from Clembers era like a hundred years ago Do that I was gonna say to a night like that's that's called a nightcap. Yeah I mean my parents have had like their their cock their nighttime cocktails

I don't really do it But like I watch them do it for my whole life like My mom my mom has like vodka water with a little bit of lemonade in a pint glass, and my dad has one, two, or whatever. I think my mom made him stop drinking whiskey. He used to be like a Jack Daniels guy. He's allowed to do that anymore. But yeah, they just have a drink.

Yeah, a guy with a house I grew up in, family I grew up in, like a couple drinks a night. That's normal. That's not even registered. No. But somebody said, I think Nate was like, he's had alcohol in his system for every night. I was like, shut up.

Yeah. He's like, for 25 years, well yeah, I'm 45. So yeah. It's an adult thing. It's an adult thing. And it's also like, alcohol in a system, it's like, yeah, what is it? One drink an hour is the thing.

So it's like, you have a couple drinks, your body filters it out, you're fine. Well dude, that's exactly how I used to like when people be like alcohol is poison I was like, yeah while it's in me, but then take a piss and I was fine I mean, yeah, I still I still have like I still well, I don't want to live in my so like if I go somewhere So she I'll have like one or two. I'm just trying to control myself better. So like sure and I think it's like, yeah when do you think because you're a little and when do you think? Because you're a little older. When do you think the?

like I Guess the tag of like alcoholic when did that start because I feel like I really are like our generation or Millennials I feel like started drinking a little bit less than other generations. I think so right and then now Gen now Gen Z apparently it's plummeted, which I am not sure, I totally believe, but and then we were talking about why it plummeted with Gen Z and we were like, it's probably because it has a name now, like alcohol. Well, alcohol, I mean, alcoholic was a thing even like, remember like the eighties was like,

there was like a made for TV movie about the guys that created AA. So like even then it was a thing. You have like a lot of like best. But was it like- But even the thing about that, like they were creating it then, right? Like when did they? It wasn't that popular.

Oh, was that? Oh, okay. Oh, you said 40s? I think the 40s, it came back from the war and these guys, Bill and Bob created Alcoholics Anonymous. Like, so there was always like a name, like I'm not that old where I don't know a name for it, but like in my opinion, like being an alcoholic

is like when your life becomes unmanageable. And like sometimes like my drinking, like when I, after surviving, I went out and I got really drunk. And I was kind of a dick to Whitney. And I was kind of a dick to Jeff D'Olo. And I'm like, I don't wanna be that person. Like, why am I doing this to myself?

So I gotta control myself. So I'm at a point right now where drinking is making part of my life unmanageable. I'm not in control. So dial it back a little bit. And like I said, I still will have a great drink if it's a social occasion. But I'm not drinking all as consistently as I was.

Right. Yeah, I was never like go home and drink a six pack like every night kind of guy. It just wasn't my jam. But I know, I mean, everybody in my family kind of was. It was like. I wasn't much of a drink alone guy. But kind of the same thing as you

where it was just like with this job, like every night is someone's night out. And you're like, well, I want to, it's their night out. I can't, I want to fucking have a good time with them. And then eventually you're like, I can't be having that many drinks every night. And I don't want to blame Barks too, but like, I definitely think like,

where before in my life, I have a regular sales job and I work with people of all ages and, but people have like wives and kids and like they're older. Here, I'm thrown back in with young people in their twenties and thirties who like to go out and they should and say, oh, I wanna, these are my friends, I wanna hang out with them too.

And like I physically really can't keep up with them. I'm not drinking regularly enough to have the tolerance and it's like, oh, this isn't like a good fit for me anymore. I gotta like scale things back. The reason I drank at night every night was I have like really bad insomnia. Like I don't, like I don't go to sleep most nights. So like two hours.

And it would just help me get to sleep an hour earlier. Nowadays, like I like getting into, I've been smoking a lot of weed recently, that's saving me. But like trying to just go to bed, raw dogging it. Just the existential dread takes over. I overthink like every single thing in my life. I'll wake up in the middle of the night like.

And then like the morning like I like once the day starts, I get going. I'm fine. I get here. I get to work. I'm fine. Go home watching TV. But then it's like like it's almost like the sun goes down and like it comes out. You know what I mean? I remember having trouble with that. And I was talking to a therapist about it

I gotta go back to therapy And she she gave me a line that like still sticks with me this day where she was like So I was like I was like I can't sleep. I can't sleep like I can't know if I'm gonna sleep sober or whatever They're not such a vicious like sleep begets everything right like and she was she was just like Assume you wake up every morning with a 100% phone battery It's your job to drain it and that will make you tired and that will help you fall asleep Sure, and I was like oh, I never thought of it like it's my job to tire myself out Yeah, and then yeah, we definitely have any working out and all that shit

But uh but I also think from a mental point of view of just like but like that's what I mean It wasn't just like exercise. It was just like everything like think like like I started to realize like okay we do a podcast. I'm 15 percent down and then I'd go do this. I'm 15 percent down and then I like when I was like. If you stop there you're at like 80 percent. Right. But then you got to keep going like keep going doing things doing things doing things. All right. I'm under 10 percent. I can probably fall asleep tonight, right? Yeah, I also like when I go to bed at night. This is what happens when your dad dies young I feel like I'm quitting on the day. Oh, and I'm like, oh, I'm quick

I lose if I go to sleep I and I know it's not like a healthy way to look at things I know it's like a rational things, but I can't help but feel that way Like when I'm like, I guess that's that's today. I that's that's the day I'm putting the book I don't think of it that way But I do think of sleeping in like I guess that's today. That's this day. I'm putting the books. I don't think of it that way, but I do think of sleeping in. I read something the other day that said, if you can pick one morning a week to sleep in

and regenerate a little bit, you'll have infinitely better everything. Yes. And it makes sense. It's just like, yeah, give yourself one day to really get back in the black. And so I was thinking of it like that, as like the same way you sleep at night

and the same way you eat meals, to like you just need one day for some extra sleep. If I sleep in, I wake up like, if it's close to like 10 o'clock, if I wake up at like the nine o'clock hour, I'm like, you are a piece of shit. You are a like despicable bum. Like wake up, or like same thing with naps.

I still stand by this. I think if you're an adult who naps, you're not a serious person. But it's like- I used to think like that too. And I tried 40. And I don't know what happens. Sometimes I just- Oh, don't get me wrong.

I'm also the guy. I'm full blown the Thanksgiving uncle meme. You've seen it a million times. I'll fall asleep. But I think if you like like I'm going to bed now Like I'm gonna go into my under my covers at 2 p.m. I'm like your child No, no, no, I mean like you're something couch and all of a sudden next thing you know, you're like, oh fuck I know that happens all the time to me and that never happened before I turned 40. Yeah. Well, yeah

We're definitely getting older and that's for sure a part of it But I that feeling of like I wake up and I'm like, everyone else is at work or, you know, I also have like, you know, I'm thinking like, if I wasn't divorced, I would have to get up and get my kids to school this day. And so that, you know, everything root like comes back to something else where it's like, and I, you know, that's why I feel like I'm also like a workaholic here. Because it's like, as long as I'm doing something here, I can always be like, well, I was doing that as opposed to like addressing all of my shit. Oh, no, that makes total sense. Yeah, like I saw another reason I love coming. So I'll sleep in. It's funny because I'm backwards. I'll sleep in and I don't feel guilty about that, but I feel guilty about going to bed at night. I'm almost like it's like I'll be up.

I'll watch a show and then do like a recap. And so I'm working until like midnight. Right. Well, then you logically like get that back on the on the on the back end instead of waking up at like eight like sleep in a little bit but I don't I don't work that way. It's just like my brain thinks that that is a bad thing to do. They say younger people have better like I think like our generation we have more anxiety about work like like I come in every day because like if I don't come in not because I'm this

great worker if I don't come in I'm anxious that what's happening without me or I feel like I get anxiety about not coming in, right? I think I read I read a pretty interesting thing about the younger generation and That belief yeah, and it was kind of like it was basically saying there isn't money anymore and so what the younger generation sees as a So what the younger generation sees as a Status symbol is having free time because you know, no one's making money. So having free time is Like I made it is like the like well, that's like look at you That's very impressive of you that you can show up to work at 10 or leave work at 4 if you want

I think that's you've really achieved something here. You still make $30,000 a year We're all broke. I mean I find it to be like this generation of like I you see it a lot with like Erica's content will always be like this person this employee mind from this generation this play My from this generation. They're totally different like the kids who are like I work from nine to five. That's it I don't come in on the weekends. I don't if you schedule a call outside these hours, I will not be a part of it. It makes sense. But I'm also like, are you out your fucking mind? Like I mean, I when I had a real job, like if I had a sale, I've had a client in the West Coast. Like guess what? I got to like figure it out.

Like I'm not going to be sorry. But I know. Yeah, I knew it that way. But I can also see their logic of like you pay me for these hours. If you're not paying me for these other hours, I'm not doing it. I'm like, good for you for having those boundaries, but it is not how I'm programmed, you know? And it's also like, I hate to say, at least now,

I still feel like you can go do that. I don't think you're gonna get ahead. That's the thing. Maybe another generation of the, like these guys get in power and they understand that, then maybe fine, but like, okay, you can do that, but you're gonna get passed over for the promotion the bonus the whatever you know the raise like but you do see generate like I know like back in our

grandparents day like people were suits every day in the office yeah and like it took the boomers to be like let's not do that anymore and then Gen X like yeah let's not do that yeah so like you can see shifts generationally yeah it's just right it takes two generations I was saying a couple weeks ago, we as a society fucked up. We were given working from home and we abused it. And now people are like, you have to come back to work because you're all fucking around.

If we were just cool about it, get your work done, don't exploit it, don't post pictures of yourself by the pool, you know what I mean? But we went too far with that where it's like, and now people logically are like, yeah, okay, wait a minute, I'm paying you to just hang out at your house. Fuck that. I hate it I can't believe anyone who doesn't like it so lonely It's so do I remember like a bit particularly like co vid like I was like, how am I supposed to do?

I'm just sitting in my room. What am I supposed to fucking like there's no Cooperation there's no working like yeah like everything everything good That I think has come from barstool was like started That's just like a little conversation at a desk and then you can't have that if you're working from home It's a yes slack doesn't you don't have those conversations on slack or g-chat or email or Text or whatever fuck you use like you don't talk like that the only way to like I think it was Maya Angelou or Gmail or Gmail or Gmail or Gmail or Gmail or Gmail or Gmail or Gmail or Gmail or Gmail or Gmail or Gmail or Gmail or Gmail or Gmail or Gmail or Gmail or Gmail or

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Gmail or Gmail or Gmail or Gmail or Gmail or Gmail or Gmail or Gmail or Gmail or Gmail or Gmail or Gmail or Gmail or Gmail or Gmail or Gmail or Gmail or Gmail or be like, this is a good idea, I should go do it. It has to be like conversations and then encouragement and fleshing out and all that shit. And then you're like, you know what, this actually is a good idea, let's fucking do this. And that just doesn't happen on the internet. Like not conversing in like text format, however that is. You don't have a regular conversation.

See, I'm kind of the opposite. I could do, like, I struggle with, I can do one minute man like pretty quickly now. You know what I mean? Like it used to take a long time. Used to take multiple people. Now I can kind of when I'm like doing a real video, I'll send it to my brother. He edits it.

But if I'm just trying to get something out there, I can just do it. And I've done a million of them now so I can do them pretty quickly. And part of me is like, you know, part of music. I kind of earned the ability to do that. And now I have this platform where I can do it quickly, but then it also leaves all this other time to like, do I just keep going? You know what I mean?

Where it's like, I don't know, if I can do this thing faster than you, with less resources than you, takes less time than you, but we end up getting the same output, technically, you know what I mean? You work eight hours, I work 50 minutes, whatever it is, but as long as the output's there. But then I start to think of like, well, you have all this

extra time, keep working, do more, do take, but it's, you know, at some point it's like you get good at something or earn the right to do something that doesn't take you, you know, a hundred hour weeks anymore. Yeah, well, if you just keep adding to your plate, it never stops, you know what I mean? When I was in sales, I had a mentor and he was like, work smarter, not harder. I know it's kind of cliche, but he's he's like no but that's actually like a real thing like yeah I much I'd much rather pay you to make smaller but good decisions than a bunch of like shitty ones yeah or a bunch of like wasting time. But then like if if there's more free time it's like the free like you were saying about uh being having free time yeah it's like the free, like you were saying about having free time, it's like kind of this currency.

And it's like, what do you do with that free time? Like, do you just kick it and watch some TV and like enjoy yourself? Or are you like doing something more constructive with it? Because I feel like I take that free time as like a negative, you know what I mean? I work hard at this thing to get good at this thing, to be able to do it quickly and to know how to do it so I can do it efficiently. And that leaves you more free time as like a negative, you know what I mean? It's like I work hard at this thing to get good at this thing, to be able to do it quickly

and to know how to do it so I can do it efficiently and that leaves you more free time, but now that free time is making me feel like guilty. So it's like fuck it, you know? I find it very hard to turn off and just chill and it's like, well I don't know, I worked really around the fucking clock for a decade at the beginning of Arsenal and then so the last five years are like a little bit easier, you know? No, but does that mean you're happy? Like, I know like-

It should or whatever. I was unemployed during COVID and like, I did not like it. Like the weather was nice, I could hang out with my dogs. My wife was working from home. I could take care of her, I would make lunches. But like, I wasn't like, I didn't feel fulfilled. I like having a really busy schedule. Like, I like knowing I'm gonna like,

I like planning my day like, oh, I know this, this, this and this. And I like that feeling of, I guess it feels really busy schedule. Like I like knowing I'm gonna like, I like planning my day like, oh, I know this, this, this, and this. And I like that feeling of, I guess it feels productive to me. Even if I'm doing kind of goofy stuff, like going to the movies and reviewing something. Oh, if I do like one thing for the day, I'm like, all right, I accomplished something.

Like I used to be the king of doing nothing. And now I find that gives me anxiety. And so I'm like, I almost have to earn my nothing. You know what I mean? It's like, let me get up, do a couple videos, let's do this podcast. Even like today I had a couple extra hours, like let's just do this podcast now, keep it going.

And then I can go home and be like, I did something for the day. But like now when I have just a free day, and it's like, dude, just take that day because the last six have been crazy. But I don't, I just can't, I don't know. That's probably a older generation Irish Catholic fucking how I was raised, all those sort of things

where it's just not in my DNA. But it would be nice to be a little more relaxed. I think the younger generation has like the post millennial generation has a good finger in the pulse of certain things, of some of that stuff. And sometimes they can go too far, but they're also young, that's what young people do Yeah

I think a lot of that what they have is as far as like I hate like the work-life balance thing But as far as just like kind of appreciating Yeah kind of what work really is cuz like at the end of the day like your job Doesn't care about like I've I worked at a bunch of different companies and like at the end of the day Yeah, fuck about you. They would like especially back in like their early part of 2000s. They'd be like we're family They would try that shit. get the fuck out of it. They'll fire me tomorrow. Yes. Yes. Yes. Well, that also, I think there used to be a pretty clear path of like go to school, get a job,

work for X, Y, Z years is enough to get a down payment and get a house. And so there was like a process to follow and the work world like held up there under the bargain. Like you got the money, you need it. Now, if you don't get that, it's like, well, why am I doing, you know, it's got you set like none of us are making money. So there's no there's no badge of honor. There's no it's like having a career now. It's like this is all just a means to an end.

And if you're not getting the end, fuck the means. It's impossible to buy a house if you're under 40 and you live like on the coasts Yeah, like it's like unless you have a job in the lake So like prices the market went crazy crazy like prices have just increased at a much faster rate than wages have risen Is that it's gotta be a nurse should be in greedy in the market like I know like when Like when my parents bought the house on my island in 82. It was like 40 grand It's crazy, you know, I'm like, you know people now see the house on my island in 82, it was like 40 grand. It's crazy. You know, and like, you know, people now say the house is worth, you know, say 750. Like there's no way our pay went up 20, you know, 200%.

Right. Or whatever. It just can't happen. 2000% or whatever. Like, you know, like it's just no way. So I think that's part of it. I don't know. You know what's interesting?

I don't know how that happened. The banks got more power too. Yeah, the bank, like I remember learning how student loans actually are the problem, part of the problem at least, for a college, because it's like, like the schools know that you're gonna take out a loan, so they're just like, we're just gonna charge through the roof. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And if those kids can't get loans and they cannot get this money, you have to drop your tuition, or no one's gonna go to your school. But as long as they know that you can go get these loans with no proof of anything no proof of ability to pay it back But they're just like all right if you're gonna inflate we're gonna inflate dude I saw I said the other day like Colleges are fairly it's fairly standard that they cost 90 grand a year. Fordham is almost a Fordham

$100,000 a year. I was a college 15 years ago was half that price bro like that used to be like maybe Harvard the the IVs were like a hundred grand now I don't even think pretty fucking standard, baby on maybe I'm wrong I thought it was pretty standard when I was applying to colleges that like they were all in the 50s 50s Yeah, yeah, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I wasn't hit the IVs So you got a college you owe 400 grand know, the crazy thing is if you go bankrupt, college students stay with you. Yeah, they follow you to like death.

You can't repossess a diploma. So you can't repossess knowledge. This is kind of theory. Right, right. But it's also their way of kind of grabbing you by the balls. Yeah. But yes. But also then isn't there, I mean, I was very lucky enough, my parents paid for my college and I didn't have to deal with that. So but like also, do you not reach a point where you're just like,

I don't know, I'm just gonna have debt till I'm dead. Yeah. Do you guys want the stats? Do they start to go with that? That would destroy you though. Do you want the stats? Yeah. The average student loan is $41,000.

A year. That's what they have. The average student has $41,000 in loans. It takes an average of about 20 years to pay off. Crazy. The overall in America is 1.7 trillion and there's 42.8 million borrowers So there's 42.8 current people with debt But like to me that's almost like I mean I guess I guess 42 million 42.8 million

So New Hampshire by the way is a population of 1.3 something like that so that's like what? 38 New Hampshire's But I get like like I guess if that If they either if that kills your credit or they start to like garnish wages or something like I don't know wouldn't it just I Would just be like I'll pay that one on dead I don't know but Kevin if you're like 28 or even 38 and you do that, you can never buy a home, you can never, you can, it'd be hard to buy a car.

Well that's what I mean, so like yeah, is that, because they run a credit check and you're just like, you'd never pay this. Yeah, you have like, and it never goes away. I guess I'm saying I would pay the minimum to not hurt my credit, which probably still is a crippling amount. Yeah, you pay the minimum, but then they own you forever.

But that's what I mean, it's almost like, you gotta pay more than the minimum. know you want to get out of it, but like, if you literally can't, you just got to accept it. You know what I mean? That's a horrible thing to accept. That's a lifetime of debt. Bro, I'm with you, but it's almost like.

What Obama did, he paid his off until he was a president. Wasn't he running for president and he paid his off? Took Obama down. Yeah, I'm sure. I think that it's something like, I don sure. I think that's something, like, I don't know the economics of it, but it feels like one of those things they could just forgive and start fresh.

You know what I mean? Oh, then it becomes a political issue. Yeah. And then you have people saying, and then I also, fairness though, what if you're a kid that I wanna be an auto mechanic, I never went to college, now I'm forgoing a debt that I never got to take advantage of

and I never asked for. I know, but that, yes, I agree. But it's also like, I don't like when people are like, I had to do this, so you have to do it too. Or like, I didn't get to benefit from that, so you don't either. It's just like, I don't know, I think the world would be a better place if this wasn't a thing.

And so if some people get, you know, the short end of that stick, that sucks. If you think like that, you're a scumbag. Yeah, it's just like, you're just a selfish. Like, oh, if I had to do it, you have to do it too. No, you shouldn't have to do the hard things I did. Right, the world should be getting better. The goal of civilization is to make it better.

If every generation thought like that, we would still be in caves. Yeah, but a lot of people do think that way. Think about all the stuff that three generations had to do that we never had to. Yeah, and also, by the way, the things I did weren't that fucking hard. Right.

Yeah, like I didn't grow up this incredible hardship, but I hope that it's easier for the people after me. It should always be easier, more affordable, better if it can be, you know? Anybody our age grew up with cable TV. Life wasn't that hard. Right, right. Like we had it like, but my whole,

so if yeah, if you went to college and you're saying that, or you paid off, like I paid off my student loan. Yeah. I would have no issue for going other people. Like I don't want other people to have to deal with that. It's a bullshit. It's also I think it's like I think it's like predatory.

It's all really totally really shitty thing. But I do though feel bad for anyone who didn't go to college because either they couldn't afford it or what have you. That it wasn't their choice. And now they are somehow on the hook for that. That's kind of shitty. I feel bad. But I feel bad.

But like it shouldn't prevent better than. And also, you you know like I mean This is I guess is a bad example because it's not working But like you do see like Trump is just like we're doing this tariffs thing We're just fucking doing it And it's like if somebody really just wanted to like make it their issue and be like we're forgiving this debt or we're changing Like some of these sometimes by the body ran on that yeah, but like you knew it right like it never no I got it like it was like I don't even call it a half measure

I'd call it like a they're like what right they started it somebody just do it and like God forgiven but like a very small like people so it was it's they started it like right at the end of the Nation so we couldn't like yeah, I think it was like a guy in political football Yeah, I think it was it been clear. I'm wrong, please. I believe as I think it was like a game political football. Yeah, I think it was Been clear correct me if I'm wrong, please. I believe as I understand it It took a long time. They got it at the very end I think it was kind of like a let's do this to get some votes and then I think Trump killed it Right like David right and I mean the terrorists probably a bad example because we're seeing how it can affect things negatively So if someone just came in and said stroke of a pen, all is forgiven. And then the banks are like, well, now this is

happening. This is happening. But you have inflation, right? But I'm just saying that like, it used to feel like you can't, nobody can do anything. It's like, you, I mean, you can, if you want to, if you're crazy enough, you know what I mean? Or if you're, if you're a political party just doesn't play by these like rules where you get stuck in, you know, and I think those those kind of guardrails exist because you look at what's going on the terrace. It's like this is why we don't do radical shit. But it just is like, you know, I do feel like if people if you can get enough people to agree to do it, you could just do it.

Somebody needs to hold these colleges accountable to like they've raised it. Like we said so much. And like, what are you putting in? Like you're putting in stuff that you think will attract students. But like no one really asked for like these video game rooms or you told these college students I'm guessing most of hey, we'll drop your tuition by X if you get rid of you don't get a fountain in your fucking Cafeteria I'm guessing you be okay. I do think that there's probably some sort of correction coming again based on like generational shit Like I don't I don't think I'm going to be like,

my kids have to go to college. I think when my kids are of age, if they'd rather go into a trade or like, hey, take this money and start a business with it or something, I see the value in it, but by the time they're going to school, it'd probably be 200 grand a year. And it's like, at some point-

People used to look down, remember? Like when we were kids, our age, oh, you go into a trade? Oh. Yeah. Why you doing that? Go to college. We want to know. We'll be a plumber, bro.

You're going to own the family business, and you're retiring tomorrow. And you have ultimate job security. You always need plumbers. And now the older generation does is all retiring. You try to get something done at your house, you know how it is. It takes you days to get someone who can even come in and do it.

Look at it. Look at Eddie with his drywall. That's not a. I think it was like probably like 07, something like that. It was right before I went to college. And my parents had, I honestly don't know how they ended up there, but they were at a dinner with Warren Buffett.

And my dad was like, the only question I wanted to ask him was, because I was getting ready to go to college or swimming He was 06 is it all I wanted to ask him was his thoughts on the college experience and stuff like that And he was like mr. Buffett whenever he said we have a son who's of age like do you have any recommendations for college and that thing and Again, like what you like you're saying like when we were younger like this is a very crazy view but he was like give him a hundred thousand dollars and tell them they can do what they want. That's what I was thinking about doing is like just be like within some reason I'm not gonna let you go like be a DJ or something like that but like

here's the money I would help you with or pay for school like you can do what you want with it. And obviously that is an extreme thing because 99.9999% of people cannot afford to just give their kid 100 grand out front yeah um and But what's crazy by the way is it's now. That's like okay. You're gonna pay for one year of college. Yeah Well at the time that paid for four totally, but now it now would be like great. Yeah, yeah But the and my parents were like well, that's fucking insane To not they didn't say that but but they came home and they were like, well, we got no fucking help from Warren Buffett on this problem. I mean, I basically ended up doing it, where I basically just

spent their money. I was going to say, in a perfect world, it's probably like, I'm going to go start a business, or I'm going to invest it in this way that way. And most kids are fucking dumb, but it's like, I don't know, you kind of found. It was basically I went to college for three years and failed out a bunch of times and then had one more year

where they helped me with rent in New York for a year. And then. And then you made it into this. Yeah, I mean, I think that it'll be less of a, I think we're still, like even as late as Barstool, like when Glennie and Robbie and Rhea, I was like, just work here part time and like get your degree and like that was clearly

Not the right answer they all dropped out and they all made like careers for themselves And how they've been fucking around at like Baruch classes They wouldn't have you know, but even so as recently as like a few years ago I was still thinking like, you know, you gotta go but so now I think by the time my kids are in school I'd be like you can if you want like or hopefully there's some sort of bubble that I feel like time your kids are in school, I'd be like, you can if you want, or hopefully there's some sort of bubble that bursts. I feel like by the time your kids are in school, it's gonna be like, if you wanna go party for four years, we've always, always known that.

Yeah, now we're just saying what it is. It's gonna be a four year social experiment. But there is some value in that, I do think. If Keegan told me I'm gonna go be an electrician, I'd be like, cool, but also we gotta make sure you make friends and have those years of partying like that's as important you know like I would almost be like okay I'm now I'm not worried about work now what I am worried about is your social life it's all that's why

you know used to be I think kind of the best of both worlds where you were getting that experience and then you got this degree or this social proof of like I will hire you I will interview you because of this. Right. Open the door for it. And now I don't know if it really does like one way or the other. I don't know. I mean, I don't know if, you know, when I had like real sales jobs, like a lot of places, I only have an associate's. So like bachelors or better. I'm like, oh, I can't even, you know,

it would close the door on some options for me. Yeah. I mean, I was saying this, I think just the other episode other episode like I think there was a time where like a law degree a doctorate And or like it even an MBA meant like you're going to get into like management You know what I mean? Yeah now I don't think any of that means anything It depends on I know like my wife has all that stuff and she needs it for what she does So like she has her master she went and got all that stuff So like it depends on what what line of work you're in But I just think this attitude we had, which my dad was a stagehand,

so he worked with his hands, he never finished eighth grade, and the idea that we kind of turn our nose at welders or people that work with their hands, like auto mechanics, is being left-handed is so shitty. I think you're right, I think now we're finally respecting these guys again.

It's like, no, they make a lot of money, they don't have college debt, and a lot of them own their own businesses. Also, I think there's a way now to kind of put the two together. Like there was this dude who was, I believe, a plumber, but some sort of plumber, mechanic, plumber, electrician, construction, whatever it was. And I used to, um, when I would make a video being like my, my water pressure

sucks and he would be like, he would send me a video or send me a DM being like, unscrew this, take off this thing. And he would always kind of just talk me through whatever little house problem I was having. And it was always very effective and worked. And I was like, you should do this. And he made like a YouTube. Now he has like 250,000 subscribers.

Really? It's like Dave DIY. And he just like, he just found this niche of like people who you go to YouTube and it's like, here's how to fix your faucet. Here's how to fix your this, fix your that. And that's like such a good thing. Cause like there are sometimes like, it's how to fix your faucet, and here's how to fix your this, fix your that. And that's such a good thing, because there are sometimes like, it's different, but I'll be doing some workout,

and I'll be like, I don't know how to do that. And you Google how to, and then it just pops up right there. I'm like, damn, OK, that does make a lot of sense. And so now you can take, like, I do plumbing, electrician work, whatever. But now I turn it into this social media business. You know what I mean? I think it used to be like,

you didn't have the brains or the means to, you know how to work with your hands, but you know how to do the rest of it. Now I think it all comes together, where it's like, I can use the internet, I can promote my business, I can be the business owner while still doing the physical thing,

and it kind of all you know You can make a little empire for yourself sure I mean so now is the time to be able if you can do those things There's just less barrier of entry to do all the other shit now So it's like if you have the the skills yes You can now do the business side of things based on you know fucking YouTube right whereas it used to be like you need This diploma to even getting these conversations you can learn from other. It's way easier like information but it's way easier to learn anything you want without like you're having to go to some fancy college. Right. Which is awesome. I mean I definitely by the time I need to make that decision I think it will be like

either the price will be like we're not doing this like no or at the very like least like you can if you want but like. If we're in a situation where you can't afford it then we're not doing this, no, or at the very least, you can if you want, but by the time. If we're in a situation where you can't afford it, then we're really fucked. But honestly, I was thinking about that. I've obviously done well, but not like, it's gonna be 400 grand, my kids will be in school at the same time,

you know what I mean? So it's like, if it's 400 grand for both of them, just a million bucks to like, it's a lot of money for anybody, you know what I to like A lot of money for anybody money a lot of fucking money But also like I got to start planning for that like that's a whole other thing you know my thing with planning Is like fuck it is like we're gonna intend in ten years when the kids have to like like we're gonna live on a different planet yeah Yeah, like college might not even exist will be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, is gonna, like I know we used to joke around about like, what does AI even really do? But it's cause we're still like at the infancy of it.

And as soon as that stuff can get applied, like in a literal way, I think even stuff going on the internet right now, I think is there's way more AI than we even realize. I think like, so many of the, even the things you're talking about, like how to's and the YouTubes and like, I think are just, there's no humans behind that.

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I saw one where I was like I forget who the porn star wasn't it and it was like teen slut I was like I forget who the porn star was in it and it was like teen slot I was like she's a male You see what um, did you see what Lisa and did by the way? No, she create she she like licensed her AI Rights or something. She said like if you have it like she has like Lisa and trademarked But that's like if for the human world apparently like like normal copyrights and trademarks don't apply to like the AI world You need to almost have like a some sort of digital trademark also made. Okay. I was watching a clip of it.

Large was telling me about it behind the scenes. I was watching a clip of her on You Got to Try This. And so I only got the brief thing, but she, somebody is creating an AI version of her doing porn. And she's like, I don't do any adult stuff anymore. Large was kind of telling me about that. That doesn't interest me at all. Me neither, but there's probably people that like,

if you are a Lisa Ann fan, she said, she was, she said she got her implants taken out and she licensed this AI thing at the same time to be like, it was kind of like a physical and metaphorical thing at the same time. And she says that people are like, are you filming, are you doing this or that? And she's always like, no, but I have a, she called it like a digital replica or something like that.

She was like, that, it can do anything you want. You can talk to it for 24 hours, like all that shit. So like, I don't like that, but if you were a Lisa Ann fan, like one of those diehards, and it's like, it's this or nothing, she's never shooting anything new. Those guys have probably seen like everything she's already done. Then you, then you might go down that path.

I know. I'm sure the market for it is vast. Yeah. I'm just saying personally for me, like I don't want to watch robot. Fuck being like you can make it do anything you want. I'm like, it's like, it's like going to a restaurant and like we can cook anything. I'm like, don't, what are you good at? And what do you want to do?

Like, I don't want, I saw a video the other day that was like 4K or whatever. It was like such good camera that I thought it was fake. And I didn't like it. Oh, I see what you're saying. And then I clicked in and I was like, oh wait, no, this is real. But it was so clear. It was the Joe Burrow video of porn.

You know, when we run out of time on an LNG. And you're like, what the hell? But it was too good to maybe think this is fake. And then I don't want to watch it rather than like, oh, this is actually just like the best quality part you've ever watched. It's not even just like, but like uncanny value type shit. And the idea of like make like I it's weird, I guess. I don't know. Maybe I'm just such a goddamn gentleman.

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it's just gonna be like there's an AI thing that does, something that does all the work you need to. Well, Nicky Smokes wrote a blog in AI, and you wonder like, all right, like is that, is that what's gonna happen to like? I was thinking of that as like cheating, but like. Me too. But, so this is not a great example, I was thinking of that as like cheating, but like me too, but

So this is not a great example But like when I used to write blogs I had a tab open and I had the source comm right next to it and every time I need another word I throw it in there, you know, yeah That's I think a much lesser version, but I'm sure there's some old-school people who were like, what? No, we had the sources when you were in college you're that well back when I went to college yeah yeah yeah it's like using calculators it's like you there's always forums this is now we're like jumping ahead but I'm sure there's some purists who would be like well that was I think that takes a humanity out of it I

think change finding a different word doesn't change the humanity of it I think when you have AI do something I'm not I would agree with you I think it's not the Nikki's most thing. It's like a cultural thing Yeah, and it's like well how much of what we in like take in his media now Not as blog anything is gonna be like AI and like how much are us the old guard gonna be accepting of that and will the You young guard be like this is totally fine. This is what I grew up. Yeah, well, that's what I mean I'm scared. I think it's just normal old generation young generation stuff like every time I cut on social media now and it's just like look at

this doll I'm like I don't care but like the young kids do so I'm like all right yeah dude go nuts guys. What do you mean look at this doll. Like the action figure. That was the thing last week. Look they made me into a doll. Everyone goes nuts about it I'm like I don't know that doesn't move me. Yeah we're just getting old're just getting old yeah so right like you that I was actually thinking about the other day like social media is they're like bars and it's just like bars you hang out on the internet yeah and you're like I'm too old for this bar right yeah I'm gonna graduate over to here like the bar doesn't suck the bar changed and it attracts a new demographic but but like cool, good for the bar,

they seem to be doing well, but like I don't really fit in here anymore. You should go to this restaurant over here. Yeah, yeah, I'm with you. I think the AI thing is so much bigger, like, cause like what happens when there's like self drivers? Like what happens to all the truckers? Like now you have a whole entire industry

that's not out of work at the same time. Yeah, well that's where it always gets dicey, but like that's where like the stuff I'm doing with Opus is like, is creating clips and producer work that you can view it as it's replacing an editor or a producer. I view it as it's freeing up that editor and producer to do real producer work now. You know what I mean? Something like a trucker is like, that's literally what I do. You're taking it away. But I think a lot of these things in the content world, at least, is like, now you don't have to do this grunt work editing shit. Go be creative. Go be funny. Go actually work with the content to at least is like go now you don't have to do this like grunt work editing shit go be creative go be funny go actually work with the content to make it better you know what I mean like use these things rather than just be like this menial task that I do that I rely upon to prove my value like you have to be more more irreplaceable than that you know what that's fair. Like provide more value, if a computer can do the shit

that you do, then you need to do something bigger and better. But it's actually, I think that's a little different, something's like your trade, let's say you work in a factory and you build cars, that's what you've done for 30 years. Like easy pass, if you're a toll-free person, you're just out. And you're just out, it's all you've done, it's all you know.

But it's almost like we were talking about earlier, it's like it sucks for you, but it's making the world a better place, it's like it's kinda hard to. And in theory you could argue like self-driving trucks would make the world like safer like in theory right like you'd have less Auto accidents and I think it's gonna be very funny looking back when people like there's gonna be generations We're like you guys drove the car You were in control of it going like almost a hundred miles an hour and you guys allowed that like it's crazy people gonna be Blowing away. Yeah, it's dangerous thing we do do right absolutely but but I you know it's it's that's always gonna be like kind of the push-pull of of AI in that regard but I you know I like even writing a book is like I would think if

you want to write a book you should write a book right but like if if I could use AI to like If I just like kind of blab out all my thoughts and then it's like put this together like organize it for me you should write a book, right? But like if I could use AI to like, if I just like kind of blab out all my thoughts and then it's like put this together, like organize it for me. Like what, where do you draw the line? Like I used it as a tool the same way, like a very, very, very, very basic version

as like what I said about the thesaurus. It's like where does it become, you know, 51%? Now this is too fake, you know? Cause it's everything is just using a tool until it's like you've gone too far, you know But it ain't the more important thing is ain't stopping so yeah, it's not like you know no no no You better get on board this is this is the rather than digging your heels in the iceberg I think this is gonna be like this is gonna like me or shit everything you know But we also like black mirror shit,

that's something we've said for 15 years, like it hasn't really happened. But I do think that they're like, when it goes exponential, you know what I mean? It's almost like, whatever the next microchip that they create opens up a lot more. Things have changed though, I'm not saying negative, but you even said we're in a different world

and now we're changing. For sure. So things are changing fast. Humanity, I don't think changes that much. The world itself, the world we live in changes, for sure. But humanity, I haven't. You're still one of the basic drivers of the reason why people do things. What is it, the Maslovs? Is that his name?

The guy that has the, what are the things that drive us? The hierarchy of sex. Hunger, sex, what are the same things that drove us back? I just think that we probably all are, start at level three. You know what I mean? At some point, I mean, of course, there are people who are less fortunate, who are still worried about survival and shit.

But I think technology almost like we're all way higher to the top of that pyramid now. You know what I mean? Yeah, evolution, you think would help with that? Right. But I think there is I think there are a lot of people like are in like dire straits, especially in other countries. Yeah. We're lucky we're in this country. But yeah, no, I and you wouldn. Yeah, yeah, that's true. We're lucky we're in this country, but yeah. No, and you wouldn't, we'll technology be able to help them.

Like we'll be able to help like maybe solve hunger as far as building bigger tomatoes or what have, I don't know. So I mean, there is, like you said, there is a positive side to it. I have heard that AI, a big initiative for AI is big tomatoes. Really?

No. Oh. I just thought it was funny. Matt and they were like, we figured it out. Giant tomatoes. Got this, and We saw a poster? You could only feed one person with this. Now we got tomatoes this big.

In any country. Giant tomatoes everywhere. That's my plan. Save the world. I love it. And everyone can have a healthy weight like me and look like me. That's what people want.

Nobody's 109 anymore. Everybody's got a big tomato. Everybody still is weirdly skinny, but yet this one metric says you might be healthy. That's what everybody is. Alright, good shit man. You gotta go. What are you doing? Some wrestling stuff with Bob? No, I have a call and then I have to go see a movie later. I'm going to see Drop. Oh, I heard it's good.

It's a woman on her first date and she gets an airdrop in her phone saying you have to kill your date. Oh, or they'll kill her or they'll kill her son Very uh, what was that flight movie? Jason non-stop right? Oh, oh no. No non-stop was with Liam Neeson No, was it carry on carry on that movie sucked. I love that movie No, was it carry on carry on that was sucked. I love that movie Yeah, dude, I watched that like eight o'clock in the morning in a hotel room And I don't know where I was and I was like this is the best fucking day ever I've been trying to Austin, Texas That's where I was trying to see every movie that has in a thousand screens and more so I've seen like a lot of like

What do you think of Minecraft? I actually didn't mind it. It was so I don't think that's dumb I just think like people compare it to the Mario Brothers is crazy. Mario was far better than that I didn't see Mario Brothers. My Mario Brothers is fucking awesome The monkey is not the worst thing where now it's in the lost lands Which was a movie with Mila Jovovich and Dave Bautista. It was just terrible Yeah, I love you heard that fine. I hate when you like the movie you hate when I like the movie Yeah, I love when you're like, this movie is irredeemable.

Yeah, you always have a good word where it's like, this is just the worst movie I've ever seen. Love Hurts with Kiwi Kwan and the girl from West Side Story, that was horrific. That was so bad. You're like, what? There's some, I mean, more often than not, they're bad movies.

Why was this made? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, you know, it's like hard to make it in Hollywood, but also there's part of me often not their bad movie. I was just me You know, it's like hard to make it in Hollywood, but also there's part of me that's like is it like what the fuck's going on? You know, we're 40 43 movies and I can only recommend like 16 or 17. Yeah, that's most bad Yeah, you know what? I have a hard time with your reviews because I don't want to watch them until I've seen the movie and then I forget to go Back I try not to give any spoilers. So I do try. But even like, I don't like hearing about anything. I like going to like,

that's a fairly recent thing I've done. Like I don't like to know anything at all. Right. Before I go in. Which is kind of crazy to me. I think it's a great, I guess the way I would ideally go in. But like this movie drop.

I feel like I gotta know like, what's the premise here? So like. Cause I gotta know if I'm sitting down in a movie and it's like, where are we going? I just wanna know the genre. I'm not getting in the car until I know that I wish I wish I could Bet you where I'm seeing seen anyway, so might as well like this movie drop has been in every fucking trailer

Yeah for like the last four months. I've seen this trail. I could do trailer word-for-word almost It's like oh, so I feel like I know the movie. Yeah. Yeah, well, that's another epidemic trailers They're like five minutes long and it's like well, and they give the whole thing away Yeah, I know what I know what happens to this. Yeah, you know, I saw somebody on a podcast had a good idea the Oscars Should every like 30 minutes or something eliminate one of the movies? Best picture like it keeps you engaged and probably then you get down to the very end and it's I want to know how What percent of best stunt by the way is a cool idea? Yeah, that's also like a big I do this while Tom Cruise is still alive yeah but that's a very cool

best movies I want to know what percentage the tenth got for best like was it really embarrassing like I want to know yeah I mean I think if you were to do that it would be cool cuz like our number one we're gonna get rid of this movie we don't know we know this is you know the first five that's why it's funny that they extended it to ten because five are off the fucking list. Yeah. Oh, yeah There's not like if there's nobody that's like Fifth that you might also win. They did it because of the Dark Knight the Dark Knight didn't crack the top five and

Oscars wish it had because what it improved ratings and oh if we do it ten I'll have more blockbuster. Ten to me feels almost too much though. But I don't think it's really worked that way Like I mean, I remember when I saw the Top Gun Maverick was I mean for best Picture I did like that. I love it, but it's not best picture. Yeah, I really liked it, but like that was I mean It's just Top Gun. It's just Top Gun. No, it's no top. The original Top Gun is goofy and stupid. Top Gun Maverick is good I agree with you, but I still I if you're having ten sure throw it in the ten. Yeah, it was five No way, I wouldn't put it like I really I loved it, but I got in I wouldn't walk out being like that's a best pick

I I still think best pictures should be reserved for basically movies that I hate It should be an artsy no in Intense over-the-top dramatic like you you know yeah I think those are absolutely not the way Oscar works Is if you stop having this genre bias, like Marissa Tomei won an Oscar for My Cousin Vinny and deserved it. Yeah, that'll never happen again. And like when's the last time you see the comedy?

Like it's so hard for comedy. Well, there should just be a comedy category. They should incorporate, they should stop being so snooty and like incorporate everything. But I think it's hard though, I think comedy should be like, like I've always said that Jim Carrey in Liar Liar is like, I think the greatest acting performance of all time. As far as like I'm pretending to be like like I've always said that Jim Carrey and liar liar is like I think the greatest acting performance Well as far as like I'm pretending to be something on camera

It's incredible, but I'm not gonna put that up against like Adrian Brody at the fucking Holocaust. I think you just be it's hard No, no, no, no, no, I don't think that movie is very good But his performance is incredible and should agree Gary is the great Came the Grinch like literally became this monster These are amazing acting performances, but I can understand why you don't put that to like Dallas Buyers Club or some shit like that. It's too bad.

It's too bad we have this genre right now. But I think that they're doing the stunts and even for the Black Panther thing for one year, they at least considered it. It's like everything else that they're kind of oh, broadening there. I hope so. I hope so, because I think that's how you get Oscars

to a more wide-ranging audience. Because the number of the ratings, they're very good for but less than us people watching TV So you need to like really include everyone you need as inclusive as possible You know what? I will end on this but you know I really always thought we should do is if it takes a lot But I think if we ever we came up with like a barstool awards That's almost like a people's choice sort of thing You know what I mean? Like like give give away just awards that are that the people would agree with

Yeah, I mean and in the first couple years and not like these would ever mean anything It's not like, you know, it's a capri was gonna be given a speech like I won the Barstool Award But in the first couple years nobody cares But I think you could get to a point where it's like if all I mean So many people here who like movies and know movies and all that and if we voted or the fans voted or something And it was like this is the best Movie of the year in terms of like movie going. Yeah, I mean, I think there's something there And it was like, this is the best movie of the year in terms of like movie going.

Yeah. I think there's something there where it's like, cause there is too much bias and snooty shit. Yeah. Some entities should be like, there's normal. No, I know. The normal movies, the normal votes, you know? I think like Barstool, like for like,

I think a lot of the movies that the Barstool crowd likes, like I'm in Barstool Twitter with the movies and stuff and like they have pretty good taste. Yeah. And I think they're a lot more open-minded than a lot of Academy voters who are, like I said, so glued in on what Merchant Ivory's putting out, or this British movie that four people saw.

No, that's not what they... When you look back in the... Oscars, you look back in the year, it's like, oh, 1972, that's the Godfather year, or whatever. It's like, but you look back, and back at like oh this year is coda year It's like and I liked coda but like yeah, I like fine movies. No one's gonna read No one's gonna write. It's not like coda the one time. I saw it Watching that no one's talking about it. No one's quoting it

No one's like, you know and like the year, you know get out like get out should have won You know that year and I forget what one is said Well, this is the kind of a similar idea to yours is Tyler who we work with. I actually don't know Tyler's last name Miller I did know that the He had the idea that Oscar should be given five years after right So we just do the five-year-old Oscars. It just we just redo them Yeah, and like it's like a redraft not a bad idea actually what the real best movie was that year was blank blank blank Yeah, I have a much better like pulse on it. Yeah. And like it's like a redraft. Not a bad idea. Actually what the real best movie was that year was Blank Blank Blank. You'd have a much better like pulse on it. Yeah.

Um I also while we're talking movies I just remembered I forget if I've already said this to you. I'm reading Josh Brolin's book. Oh. Um which is actually really great. He's had a crazy career. Yeah Jake Bass recommended it to me. I didn't I've always liked Josh Brolin to the point where I walked by him on the street once in New York and it was the day I was in a bald cap and I considered stopping him to be like, Mr. Brolin, you have no idea who I am, but I just want you to know I do have hair.

Like, this is, I'm in costume right now, I'm in wardrobe. But I love him and Jake Bass texted me and he was like, hey, I'm reading this book, I think you'd like it. And he was kind enough to give me the book and I've been reading it I had no idea that He was not a nepo baby, but I didn't know his dad was Married his dad's married to Barbra Streisand. Yeah, and the only reason I googled it was because he's telling a story the books great

I actually recommend to everyone cuz it's like It's he kind of writes you read sham sham shepherd he kind of writes like him where it's like very I guess Hemingway like very masculine like very like thoughtful and beautiful and the The chapters are all over the place like it's like one is 1988 He's talking about goonies and one is the next one is 2020 the next one's 1976 like he's bouncing everywhere So I was like halfway through the book and he's talking about going to dinner one night and at this point I had known his dad was famous, but I didn't realize how famous and he's talking about going to dinner when he's like 20 with

his dad Marlon Brando and his wife John Travolta and his wife and and you better be a movie star, bro They put my and my dad's wife Barbara and then put in parentheses a singer and I was like who the fuck's his dad's wife It's like Barbara Streisand a singer Then in the in the story about that dinner He's talking about how like Marlon Brando had cut his leg in the car or getting out of the car And then John Travolta was like I've been taking some healing classes with Scientology, so let me oh my god He was like in people like I was sitting there watching John Travolta try and heal Marlon Brando's hand leg with his hands

It was great. He's awesome also everyone's in a movie um No country for old men. He broke his collarbone like a week before shooting and the only reason he got to keep the role was because Lou Ellen get shot in the right shoulder. That's right. And so like he was like all the time when he's in like in the sling like he's actually in the sling. Wow. That's crazy. Yeah that's a great little. What a crazy career right? You got Goonies and I didn't know he's in Goonies. He's the brother. I guess like yeah loves drinking or love loved drinking and Is awesome. It's again like the chapters are like three pages. It's like some of them even just poems It's a fun like just kind of flip flip around fuck around cool All right, man. Well, thanks a lot. Clemmer. Thanks. You got it I'm going to be using a I'm gonna be a good boy, I'm gonna be a good boy Thanks for watching!