KFC Radio - Klemmer Reacts to Dave Portnoy Cutting his Stream - Full Episode

Episode Date: March 12, 2024

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We got the alien man here. The talk of the town. Mr. Consolidary Finement, as Dave would say. We got Chris Clemmer on the show. His KFC Radio debut, right? That's right. I've really only been in this room once, I think. Welcome, welcome, welcome.

This is a thrill. We did so much coke in here. It was crazy. Fresh off your big week. 100 hours. You had the weekend to decompress, soak everything in get caught up get caught up on the world what are your first thoughts what your first what's your first reaction everything here uh like first thoughts now first off when i got out both do you take it first now like elation

like i'm very happy yeah when i got out just i guess confusion befuddlement yeah um yeah i'm i'm very happy with how things turn out from like for from my perspective like i'm really really happy about how that all went down i'm very pleased about that not super thrilled with how like some might i felt like my co-workers might have gotten some brunt so that i don't love well that is i agree with you wholeheartedly where that's something I've actually thought about this weekend with how things went

and like I we were talking about earlier how I don't get angry I was pretty pissed with the way with everything really because there are two things in particular that got me angry

to an extent one was when dave was called i only watched a few seconds of his highlight reel of yelling people but i thought i overheard him he was anyone even there anyone that fucking work or whatever and i started i started to think because i they i have no misgivings about what the appearances are or what the opinions are of the two offices. I'm pretty aware of what it is. And it's one thing when it's earned. I don't like when people don't work here. If you want to say there are more successful people there, more likable, more talented, that's fine.

That's fine. But people do work here. People work here. And I think that when Dave said it, that's when I started being like, okay, it's getting out of control now. Right. The narrative is getting a little silly. It's one thing if it's like people say it.

Because this is one of those things, too, where there's a rare situation where I was involved in every step of that. I didn't see the video. I might have been sitting right there. I was aware of everything that was happening. I think the story ended up becoming that. First of all, it was like 5pm on Wednesday,

I think. Yes, I remember it being later. Before I had my dinner and after my lunch. But it was close to dinner. Or maybe it was Thursday. It was Thursday. No, it was Thursday. Was it Thursday? I think so. It't know yeah whatever it was it was wednesday it was it had the story became that

no one was working everyone was just sitting around watching a live stream while clamor tried to morse code i'm sorry well ken jack coded tried to morse code that the stream had been shut off and i was like i was sitting there that's And I was like, I was sitting there. That's not what was happening. None of that happened. I was sitting there pitching a sketch. Ken Jack was fucking around doing the Cheers theme song. Keys had a stream up on her computer, which like, I don't know. Like a lot of things were happening that I wouldn't do. Like I wouldn't fucking Morse code tap to you.

I wouldn't have the stream on my computer. But they're also not things that are out of the ordinary at this office in the entire existence of Barstool Sports. It's also things that didn't happen. Like, he didn't do the Morse code. He did the Cheers theme. Also, from my perspective, that made me think that the stream not only was still going, but maybe successful. Or my coworkers were, like, rallying me on. If that didn't happen, I'd be more suspicious.

Yeah. Like, because if you're me and you're sitting there like you'd expect your friends it was almost like being i thought of it it's almost like being in prison and like another cell is like banging the pipe yeah and if you watch my reaction which i know no one saw but it's there somewhere i'm going freedom freedom i get all excited not not because and i'm playing to not playing but playing to the cameras. I'm like, bring it on. I never, it only made me think the stream was happening more. Right. I don't get, like, why.

But the working thing is what, like, because it's so easy. When someone gets a lazy tag, it's so easy to dismiss them. And it's a deserved dismiss. If you are lazy, you should be dismissed. And just be like, fuck you. Who cares? And I actually, i did some research wait a minute wait a minute wait this is a first yeah there's been research done on ksc radio i i

don't know how accurate it is because i just asked people for information and i i i asked for sourced research yeah i was like i was like what are again this isn't i i am not trying to do uh uh uh we are little brother to chicago yeah that is fine absolutely right that is like you want to talk about talent success all that stuff fine but i'm talking about work the people here work i i was like give me a list of the shows and again this this is i i know for a fact it's not super accurate because there were shows on it. There's lists that are gone. And there were shows that exist that were not on it. Like Out of Order wasn't on it.

It's a ballpark. Jersey After Jerry wasn't. Jerry After Dark wasn't on it. Chef Donnie's show wasn't on it. But it was like there are 15 shows out of here. There were like six out of there. And then I asked the editor-in-chief. I was like, who does blogging? And he's's like it's about 80 20 new york chicago and i was

like okay so what was some of your subjective opinions are fine right if you like the people whatever they like that's fine i will agree with you and those six shows and likability and success that's fine that's fair but work happens that work gets done and and whether you don't like it that's fine but like i hated seeing that i hated dave because because then like then like i i'm safe i think but then when when dave's like no one works and then then people's jobs start getting put into danger and it's like oh no one over there works anyway like there's a lot i don't i don't know what money i don't know anything but i know in the lists of shows i asked for a lot of them are here so people are fucking working right and i i don't like people saying that people aren't working here and then i the

next day i saw a tweet about your thing from our accounts not our not kc radio but from barcelona sports this tweet pissed me off like i've never been pissed off i think maybe would you be mad enough to kill somebody dude i want to read it verbatim Because I screenshotted it I mean Oh, it's already open I was going to say While you find it

But I was going to say Those accounts have never ever been But that's the fucking bullshit of it Those accounts have been Puff on Certain people and not certain people forever And that's probably why you think, oh, this office works, this office doesn't work.

Because something gets a thousand tweets. And it is crazy. It is childish and silly in the whole thing. But it also is just factual. You know, when you complain about a tweet or something, it's like, that sounds silly, but in our world it means a lot. I would go so far as to say

do not, you don't't anyone dare give us one extra tweet because i'm complaining right yeah oh okay hey bud they won't don't don't worry about that i'm actually not even complaining i'm just saying the sky is blue we're like when uh uh jerry stream gets 10 000 tweets that night you're gonna think oh they're working really hard whereas when you know something marty's video that last week didn't get promoted at all right then you don't Jerry Stream gets 10,000 tweets that night, you're going to think, oh, they're working really hard. Whereas when some of Marty's videos last week didn't get promoted at all, then you don't think anything. But this tweet right here really, really annoyed me.

It said, Stool President, they single-handedly made Chris Klemmer's stream must-watch, but the NYC office just had to get involved. Motherfucker, it was happening here. In New York. It was happening in this office like everyone i talked to was in new york now you can say hey the stream wasn't they didn't

like stream do it stream that's a whole different argument i understand both sides i really do but like people were working on it we you know people anytime i ask someone to do content they always say yes like people do work here people do want to work here i i i that i that tweet pissed me off too yeah i mean i mean listen the six shows in chicago might be the six biggest shows in the world or whatever i don't even know what they are and again those those numbers aren't accurate but they're at least but they're still uh when i asked for the list that was the list i got and i because i was looking at it i was like well this show doesn't exist anymore. But I also, there were a lot more shows on the list, just for anyone who's going to do some counting.

There were a lot more shows on the list. I wasn't counting anything that, obviously, everyone's remote didn't count. Obviously, Dave's shows I didn't count. I was just counting shows where either. Okay, at the very least, let's say you really counted out. Because I just wanted to make sure. I wanted to be like, is no one here working? Is that accurate?

Is that true? And from my research, it's not. People here fucking work. And if you don't like it, you don't like it. Research. I like it. Johnny Research. Because it's just like when that starts,

it's one of those things that just starts to snowball and it's like i don't want like listen the at barstool and really the internet in general and probably everywhere in the world like perception is reality and pr is like absolutely everything and i know like from my point of view i feel like we in our show has never had good pr probably through some a lot of fault of our own maybe some outside faults but we just put our heads down and did it forever to the point that we're safe and so I don't

it doesn't whatever it doesn't bother me but you're right when the narrative that comes from outside of Barstool and then comes back into Barstool because people at Barstool are reading the narrative you know what I mean and then comes back into barstool right because people at barstool are reading the narrative you know and then like then i'm like well wait a minute again i hope you know hope we're safe but like other people might not be and if this is coming from like a bunch of tweets

from people who don't know what the fuck they're talking about or a reddit thread or a discord chat or a rumble chat or whatever the fuck it is if people start believing that like i always kind of operated under the assumption people who work on the internet know how the internet works and i don't know if that's always true i remember one of the first things sometimes i'm like wait a minute i remember one of the first things not one of like maybe the first thing dave ever said to me in my first interview was like are you a commenter and i was like no and he's like okay we can go on and and then like this might not have been an interview but it was said early in my career i was like oh the

commenters are saying this he's like i don't give a fuck what they say i don't believe that i don't believe it either at the time i knew that wasn't true gone by i don't know that that died the day that we closed the comments and there was such an uproar from commenters that he turned it back on and i was like i was like we know that that means nothing it's even i feel it's even beyond the comments at this point like so i went to chicago twice uh last week uh or two weeks ago i guess for the combine and the thing with mincy and like the chicago office everything about it though it is brand new it's beautiful dan did a great job designing it's like and people, the energy there, even the positivity and optimism you feel there compared to when you walk in here because people have been kicked in the face now for seven straight months.

Seven months, Clemmer? No, I mean like Clemmer. I'm talking just welcome to the fucking party, bro. But like New York versus Chicago. Since they moved there, right? However long they've been there. I mean it's just been constant. It's like kicks in the face. And it's just like, it's almost a point now where the comments have,

fear are starting to come to truth. I think we're now entering a world or a zone where I think people are almost afraid to make content. Yes. And that's when it's like, oh oh this is why i'm starting to get like well that's why i like to a little pump up speech at the end where you're like i thought you you said you were saying something along those i like this didn't go great or dave didn't like this or whatever you said and you're like but that's okay like i have the freedom to do it and

i was like i was like oh there that's the mindset you should have you're like you're like in a couple months i might have another weird brain idea i'm gonna going to do that one too, and maybe that will fail. But that's been Clemmer. Clemmer's been that guy, and full credit to him because he's busting his ass to do those things. And speaking of scared to make content, I think we ran into a situation – we ran into a situation with that, I think, unlike one I've ever been in at Barstool. Right now? No, but like –

Or before. Before. But with that before like what your last day i've never i still don't really understand dave's logic like you like i understood a lot like i i for as often as i've ever and i don't often but whenever i've ever disagreed with dave with something i've still i've always seen it i'm like okay i can see i can see the sense right maybe i don't agree with it but i do but like i i get what's happening here yeah and this is i'm sure it's happened a couple times but the only this is the one that comes to mind or one of the only that come to mind where i was like i don't understand what he's doing

because we weren't allowed to make contact we weren't allowed to people were not allowed to speak to me so i walked in after solitaire I get out and like it's fine I know my co-workers and I know they all care about me and I care about them that's fine

but I walked in you could smell the fear in the room there was a lot of people here who were excited to like film it and be like

clever people's eyes were like bug eye when I walked in and they didn't know what to do and I could tell

they were really frightened and I pretty quickly figured out what was kind of going on, I think. But yeah, I guess it was an order from top down to not have contact with them. Which was wild! Okay, so let me just back up real quick.

I would say two things. One, to push back a little bit. If you're going to get scared and all that shit like it's probably not the right business for you you know what i mean no but this i mean i agree i agree it went too far but also there has to be some level of people being like no i mean again like you were there you were there so i don't want to say here like both i was watching in this room multiple people multiple people came and were like just so you know no cameras allowed that's okay so that's what i was gonna say if like there's been i mean i did it for my whole career of times of being like

i don't really want to like say this about the boss but i feel like i have to right now or like we're arguing about shit and and so sometimes you do just have to like man up and push back but to take it to the level of there is a decree, do not react. That, to me, is schtick. That's acting. That's phony. That's everything Barstool has never been. Let that guy walk out of the room, and what happens, happens.

That's Barstool. Maybe people naturally just go, whatever, Climber, fuck you. And then that's funny. Maybe people go, holy fuck, throw a fucking party for him. Maybe somebody punches him in the face. I don't know. But you don't tell people you cannot react to something. That's not possible.

There's a chance that this is one of those things where, like. We might be getting gassed, by the way. Yeah. I'm positive this is going at least through gas. Yes. So it could have been Dave telling you. I don't know if Dave ever said, like, do not do this. But that's how it was told to us.

It was Dave told Gaz, who then told everybody. Well, I shouldn't say Dave. I know Gaz told everyone. So Gaz told us that Dave told him. That's what we know for sure. No, I mean, Gaz, I believe Gaz. He at least pretended to check his phone. Gaz has been known to do things like leave out an important word here or there.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like something where it just changes the entire context so Dave could have said something like you know don't let people film him until after I react or something like that and then it became don't film him at all I don't know it does seem a little bit out of character for Dave to be like don't tell people to react

waiting to give you a hero's welcome and it was like but there was I mean even I was like welcome we're not and it was like and that's fine too but there was i mean and even i i was like i was talking to john i was like i think we should have him come right in and come right on the show we were talking about making merch and all these and even i was like i was like let's make sure we're not stepping on any of their toes right there that's another that is something that i do think people need to get better at too is uh making content is not always necessarily just jumping on content. Like,

and I think everybody should play off of each other and ride coattails and prop each other up. But sometimes it is like a little bit like, let that person do it. Oh, okay. Dave's now made it a thing, but like,

you don't need to make it a thing. So there, there's just stuff you need to navigate that I do understand. I think my thought, I think Dave loved this idea so much of turning it off, letting you suffer, and then the rebellion,

and he got to play like the dictator, and then the puzzle. The puzzle I know directly came from our boy Wally Mario. You know? Yeah, yeah. He tweeted saying, here's what the puzzle should be.

And then the next tweet from Dave was like, here's what the puzzle is. Oh then the next tweet from Dave was like here's what the puzzle is so like it would his idea was to do the second puzzle I think yeah yeah so like uh anyway my point being like there's a couple things that you know people can do better and different here but then once it's like I mean nobody wanted nobody would take a picture of Clemmer because they were like, then I'll be in the content and then I'll be in trouble for that.

Yeah, the picture I tweeted. That's fucking crazy. People were afraid to take that picture. That's fucking crazy. I promise I won't. I just need someone. I'm laying down. I can't do it myself.

I promise I won't. I can't do it all, guys. I won't tell anyone who took it. I promise. And it took me a while. That's one of those things, again, snowballs where it's like, well, it don't everyone wanted it we're told not to but i i mean i guess it's just very hard for me to say this you know 15 years in like i mean i'm not being

like take the fucking picture guys i i would take a picture i i had a train so i was like i'm just gonna get out of here anyway fuck it and but had I bet had I not had that train and had I stayed or had that train been a half hour later and there was still reason for me to be here out another half hour I wouldn't have filmed anything if you asked me to take a picture I would take the picture but I wouldn't have filmed anything I wouldn't have done anything no I probably would have done that either because you do reach a point of like it's just not worth the headache yeah I don't need you know Kirk and Whitney and Dave on my ass the next week or whatever. But there is for sure. We will never get over that perception is reality of the two offices

if that shit's going on. So you said earlier, and I want to kind of push back or clarify this a little bit. You said, hey, if you are kind of running scared, then maybe this isn't the job for you yeah and i'll speak from experience you're absolutely right so like my first five months here i was running scared i was in my own head i was terrified i would be so scared to tweet anything i sometimes i wouldn't tweet for three or four days because if i saw i was so fragile that's the one bad comment i'd melt down yeah i was new here i was a mess believe it or not i'm 20 pounds heavier i

was a train wreck i was an an emotional basket. I was 20. If you watch the mini golf. Dog, I was looking at you today going, damn, Clemmer needs to eat a sandwich. You were 20 pounds lighter. If you watch the mini golf, the thing we did, I think it's my second day here. I am 17 pounds lighter than I am right now. Can I ask an invasive question? Are you just a skinny guy or do you have something wrong?

You have something like a deficiency or are you just skinny? I skinny i'm sure something wrong with me uh i've been skinny since i was a baby have you ever tried to put on weight yes yeah dude like my i had a buddy who's skinny like you and he would he would eat a meal and then he would eat a meal replacement shake i tried to shake something i can do lights out. I can do that in bed. At one point I watched you today you had three different meals from scraps from people. You were like, okay, I'll get that. You were like, no, no, no.

You had three different scraps of food from people. It was amazing. My buddy would do that and then he would, this is like we were probably early 20s, and then he would literally start convulsing in pain. Because I guess his tablet was working. He'd be like, feel my stomach, feel my stomach.

And it would be hard and hot. And I would get stomach issues. I have diarrhea. I'm sure there's times in your life where you didn't like it. But I feel like as you get older, it's awesome. Oh, I don't care. I've been the same size. So I'm the same size so much that my clothes deteriorate.

Because I can wear them forever. I'm the same size more or less than I've been since I was 17. That is crazy. That's what, 79 years? Give or take it, too. Okay, let's go back, though. You were saying you're pushing back on what I was saying. So I was this fragile man.

So I get that. And honestly, those first first five months i shouldn't have had a job here i wasn't creating content i was too scared i wasn't doing my job that is true what i feel like is transpiring now in our office and there's a lot of reasons why it's not just dave this is not just a dave thing it's we are a rudderless ship right now we have no leadership and we have an office that's terrified to sneeze and that is a culture for either shitty or either the safest most like delicate content ever that no one really will like or nothing okay let me let me push back one more time then though because i would say that the most like barstool content in the last how long has come out of new york all the all the fighting

all the fighting all the drama all the like weird internet shit uh jerry jerry's doing weird internet shit but also that kind of starts to border on like trick shot stuff you know what i mean but like but like internet drama infighting like that's the true like that's my barstool that's all new york all the drama so i'm like i i don't what do you like to me i think it's a great way to have you have chicago that does like chicago stuff and you have new york where it's like a gutter war i think you need a balance that would be great but the but instead of the narrative being that it's like you know fuck this one we like that one and then which is fair because all the cunts work here but that's like but that's what you need i'm friends

with all the cars that's what barstool sports needs they're all cunts bro barstool sports was built on cunts it was raised on cunts it is for cunts like it's not it's not the buddy buddy shit it never has been it never was i i would say you've never been friends except for maybe me and you to what you were saying about like like leaders and stuff like that like i barstool sports i would say never had a leader no like i dave is a leader obviously he is a face no no no there's like there's a there's a boss there's a top there's a leader yeah right and there's no and he's not like i've been i've been working here what 20 months and dave would say that himself yeah let me just let me just clarify that because i don't want that to be misconstrued dave has never been like,

I will show you the way, follow me and I will teach you how to do this. I will develop you and I will release you into the wild. And then you'll go be famous. He's like, I don't know how to do it. I just do it. Like he's one of those guys. Well,

he's so naturally gifted at, right. He is a, he's the, he's the Edison of content. If you have to pick the greatest internet creator of all time, it's probably him. But he's not going to

be like, okay, so here's what you should title your podcast and here's what it should be about. So there's no meaning like that.

Ted Williams was a shitty manager. You know why? Because it was so fucking easy for him. It's like that scene in Good Will Hunting. A typical Michael Jordan

sucks as an executive because he's just like, I don't know man, I can do this, I can't build this. Matt Damon's yelling at his press is like, this is so fucking easy for me I can do this. I can't build this. Matt Damon's yelling at his press. He's like, this is so fucking easy for me.

What the fuck? Yes, yes, yes. I understand how Dave would probably look at me and be like, you're on this trip. What the fuck is wrong with you? And it's like, no, I don't have your gift, bro. I'm doing the best I can with what I have. Well, also, what I also don't love is, like, you stepped up and did something. It's kind of like, just put the shot up

and maybe we get a putback. You know what I mean? I thought it would be a weird cult. Honestly, what happened until Wednesday is what I thought it would be. It got, you know,

anywhere between like a thousand to three thousand concurrents. It was a weird cult thing. The chat was like creating their own little universe with their own little in-jokes and it became that.

And I think we could have maybe done some different challenges that were more appealing to the viewer. I think there's a couple kinks to work out if we ever do it again. There were many things that could have made it better. Nothing was at all perfect. I get the other side of it. Thank you, bro.

Thank you. But the... What was I saying? I think you stepped up and put the shot up and then that allowed for like a putback or it was like dave stepped in and did something with content that was being made that to me is like a win like i would have been like good job because the the alternative of this was just another regular fucking week at barcelona right you know

so to me i think it was like you got up off your ass did something would it have been great if you were just like fucking electric as a one-man show and the whole world fell in love with you and like you got a billion followers and all that shit like yes it that's not what happened but what did happen is it caught the eye for better or worse the right reasons the wrong reasons it jumped out it started this thing that's that's what like barstool is and then dave tends to do these things he did it with zillion beers it was the boys for a little bit like he says that's not good that's dumb and then if it proves out to be true he's correct and if it proves out to be wrong he makes money or he looks good in the end you know what i mean

like he always comes out on top right so it's easy to just like shit on it and then turn it into something and then be like, well, without me, this was nothing. And it's like, well, yeah, without you,

there's none of it. Like none of this is anything. You know what I mean? He said in a, we had a, there was like a company-wide meeting, like maybe my second month here. And it really stuck with me

because he's like, you make content and then what we'll do is Barstool can throw gasoline on it. Right. And that was honestly in my head the entire time I was planning this. I'm like, me alone, baseball and soccer beta, is that enough? Maybe for some.

Probably not for all. But maybe something weird will happen, a hook. I'll do something, because I do inadvertently weird shit all the fucking time. Maybe something, well, that will gravitate, or maybe you guys will find something. Something will happen. The dumbest shit on the internet goes viral all the time. It's like, I don't know why. All right, and that can be the gas.

And that kind of was, don't get me wrong, this was not the plan. But that was kind of the idea. It was like, all right, I'll throw this up, and maybe something better happens with it. I don't know. That was my idea. At least going in. Right. I think that's how most ideas end up working out.

Where you're like, I'll try this. And then something bigger. Well, especially at the level we're talking about. You know? Like, part of my take goes in the studio. They're not looking for, like, we need something wacky to happen. They're just like, we're going to bang this shit out. People love it.

Yeah. Everything else that's, like, new or trying to get on, it's like, I hope some shit happens. You know? And usually something at Barstool does. And I thought that's a good thing. But apparently, you know, that spiraled into something that was being portrayed as a negative which i thought was was pretty fucking crazy um and i think and to go back to my wait and let me just say one other thing uh what i what i was fully on board with dave was the original reaction to the cutting of

the stream where people were like we are now falsely or like illegally imprisoning clemmer and all that like that was that felt soft to me maybe i'm an old fucking internet cunt too now but i was like i don't know guys he doesn't know the fucking difference he's gonna be in there one way or the other like whatever i i do i think it's great for the next guy coming down the road who like he had an idea to do a stream and now now he sees that Dave, like, fucking dunked on him and clowned him on the internet, so maybe those people don't do those things? No. But, I don't know.

There was, like, there was a lot of, like, hemming and hawing and crying about it. I was like, I don't know. This is just, this shit happens in Barcelona all the fucking time. Had we been here, we were in Austin when it happened, had we been here, I might have done a jailbreak, which I'm glad we weren't here. A jailbreak? Because. You were feeling away about it?

I mean, not really, but I just thought that would have been funny. And I'm glad I wasn't here to fuck it up because what ended up happening was way better. But the... I had some. I did feel... I felt bad for sure. But I would...

A jailbreak would have been because I would have thought maybe that could be some better content rather than – Just nothing. Rescuing. Yeah. Actually rescuing Clemmer. I think – Imagine like a rope just came down with like a bucket that says like, get in here, alien man.

And I put it around my waist. Because we've done a sketch in that room before. So I was trying to think. I was like, is there another way into that room that we can break Clemmer out? But I might not want to leave. Like, at the end of the day, I'm also like a big boy. Like, I can take the part. That's fine.

I'm okay with that. And honestly, like I said, I am so happy with how it all turned out. And a lot of that, almost all of that's because of Dave, amplifying it, making me the good guy in this weird Truman Show sequel. Yes, but that's what Barstool is. And the Clemaholics was trending the name was trending there's a cult following like that i just don't like when that just gets lost it's just like what that didn't happen like yes i know that dave that dave like again was the

catalyst for it but if the if the other side of the thing is not funny like it's funny to be a clemaholic you're this weird dude and it's like like if it was me if it was you like it wouldn't you know it would just be like okay that stream's over but it was kind of like you represent it's the same thing that happened on barcelona radio when you said to dave all right like then fucking fire me people were like holy shit the alien man doesn't give a fuck about the boss that's why it works so you get credit for that but i know that he knows that like the general internet doesn't you know and that's where i'm like why i would disagree with that i would think the general internet is i i don't know yeah you know what you know what you're probably right the

general internet but the it's as always like the silent majority i feel like that and the vocal minority will be like what are you talking about that was all dave it's like the other the person who started this and caused all this the people i've been very fortunate the people have been very kind to me like the stories i love that very good a great quote yeah like they haven't like the people are good the people are good like the people it's about the people they they're good to me like they were they had my back with the mean girls thing they had my back with this they're usually pretty open to my weird, stupid ideas. They embrace the hell out of rat race. They'll also be the first one to tell me I'm a weird, skinny –

and they're probably right at some of the times. Listen, you're an alien, man. Yeah. And sometimes I do have really boring, myopic things that I want to do that would interest nobody else. Yes, you're autistic. Everybody's on on the spectrum here we know it yeah like but um but they're they're generally pretty good to me so that that's that's like i said i'm i'm my whole solitary confinement thing to me if you told me before i went in there this is how it end up i'd

be like yep that's awesome cool my issue is we now have an office that is terrified to do anything and i don't know how to fix it i don't know who can and I don't know how to fix it. I don't know who can, and I don't know what to do. There's only one guy who can. I don't think he's going to do it anytime soon. Then what do we do? Because Chicago has – I know you say it's not buddy-buddy. I think times are changing a tiny bit where I think people are becoming – some would say softer, some would say nicer, whatever.

I think that buddy-buddy or that kind of like the kindness thing is starting to become bigger than it was when we were 10 years ago when we were younger um i would i would tend to agree with that like look at the eye the act is just buddies hanging out yeah i think i think i listen anything that dave has his hands in is not going to be buddy buddy buddydy. That's what comes out of it. The Yak is left alone. Right. Chicago's left alone. But it's also wildly successful. Like, the Yak's a really successful show.

Totally. Would that have been successful 15 years ago? Maybe not as much because people want a more nasty sarcasm and nasty infighting. Yeah, like part of this week was Dave being like, he's calling like the Yak pussies or pussy yak or something like that. You know what I mean? I think part of that is podcasts. I think when podcasts started, I think talk radio was always combative.

And then podcasts got popular. And people were like, oh, it's actually kind of relaxing. I don't like podcasts. So whatever people who listen to podcasts like about them, it's better to just hang out with friends. So, yeah, I would agree that the trend is definitely – although maybe now it's been 10 years of podcasts. Maybe now people are looking for combatives. Maybe it's going back in a way.

I think Dave is very protective over the Barstool brand, rightfully so. And I think any time he's – this is twice in a row now it's happened where he said if someone's tuning into Barstool for the first time and they see that iteration of Barstool Radio, they're not coming back to Barstool. If they tune in and they see this guy sleeping, they're not coming back. He, you know, will always have the right to do that,

but he's going to do that. You're not really going to be able to, like, stumble your way through it and just, like, buddy-buddy up because, like, he he'll pull the plug i think i said in the act i don't mind at all like i said it's like cbs has a sitcom if the first three episodes don't work they pull a sitcom yeah that's that show business kids like tough shit figure it out right and i said all along this is experimental so like maybe it maybe it shouldn't have been on the main channel maybe i should have put my foot you know and been like this shouldn't be in the main channel but the way it all ended up seemed okay. Like,

I'm fine with. Well, that's another, that's a whole other discussion. I mean, I, I, I had a Chris Clemmer YouTube ready to go right away

and I said, let's, let's, and I know part of it was proving Dave wrong and having it be on Barstool. So I know that's not what the people wanted,

but I do think there's a world where the Clemaholics would have gone over to a Rumble channel and a YouTube channel for you. And I know Kirk too. Kirk said, oh, put it on my said open on my show yeah there there there were other ways to do it that i think also probably just benefit like you in the long run which is probably a good idea to like help build but it's it's never it's not gonna be that it's just it's just a wasted it's wasted

effort it's just not gonna be that place it's to be like sink or swim with, you know, the, the knife, like the, the, the thing right, right on your neck. The New York office right now, you're absolutely right. We are the epicenter for the drama. Like it is, I think Chicago would 100% agree with that. In fact, very gladly probably agree with that. Totally. But I feel like that's kind of all, and you're right, we do work here, but I feel like all

we're recognized for is that drama i think we need to do i think we need to the content for being so i said terrified lately has me very alarmed like all right so who's gonna pitch the next idea who's gonna take the next who's gonna do the next idea and i see a room right now of i want people to to do that and i something like tommy does tomm Tommy does his shit no matter what but I don't know I don't I know I know there's talented people in there

I know there are good ideas I know there are hard working people because we blog the most we do we do work we show up believe it or not people we do show up

the office looks empty because we have a big fucking space we have like 12 content people who work they all left they all went to Chicago

and not only that but like you know Jeffy Lowe went you know, Jeff Hilo went, you know, to LA. Like, we lost a lot of people

at once. Roan is very busy. He's busting his ass, but he's not in the office every day, you know, like a lot of us are because he's busy

and we have chicks in the office. Well, they're on a mega tour. Like, a lot of the people we have, the four,

you know, Trent often, he comes in whenever he can, he busts his ass, but sometimes he's going and making zillions of dollars. He's going to say, they got other things to do with the four play know trent often he comes in whenever he can he busts his ass but sometimes he's going and making zillions of dollars just gonna say there's so a lot of they got other things to do with the four playboys a lot of the people we have are busy doing big giant stuff and you know you guys you guys are in here doing five shows a week so it's like that's

the other problem is i feel like we have this weird thing we have like a lot of top banners and we have a lot of like people like me kind of like uh you know the the utility guys and we don't have a lot of the mid-range players i feel like chicago is all the like high-end mid-range players we don't we need more of that and i don't know how to get that i don't know i don't know yeah i mean it's it's not there's not like a solution to it because it is it's it's always i don't see that as a problem i don't think i don't i i honestly no i was gonna say i don't think i i think that the minute that you stop worrying about that and just like the only thing that is annoying is when it seems like Internet chatter matters. I think that's annoying.

The I think after my weekend of research, 20 minutes, I don't minutes I don't think there's any problem here at all I think the way you're speaking makes me think that people out there think there is but like I think if you're out here you're not like thinking like oh I'm getting a raise or like big money's coming my way

or like or recognition like you know what I mean like come to work and do it but like there's for sure a perception is reality problem here. From the outside looking in, from the inside looking out. That is a problem. It's not like you're going to lose your job, but

it's a problem of I don't know. It's not very attractive. It's not an attractive situation to come into. Maybe it's an enthusiasm problem. You mentioned it before. Marty Mush makes a video getting a hit off Trevor Bauer. Yes.

If that was certain people, it would be like at the top, Marty Mush is... The Trevor Bauer... You get the reaction, you kind of get like... You can't force it or change it. And sometimes it just kind of is what it is and it sucks like there's no there's on the internet there has just always been haves and have-nots and sometimes it's because you're likable and sometimes it's because you're unlikable sometimes

the you might be unlikable in the internet thinks you're unlikable and you're likable in real life sometimes you you i i have i fucked something up in my life so people don't like me now like there's just weird shit where your your um your like reputation is kind of just like there you know what i mean that feels i would imagine uh uh for some of the people here a bit like you know sisyphusian like what am i what for what yeah i mean like you're not gonna get the recognition or the money or the you know whatever so um or you know even just like the tweets from the accounts and the support so i i do get what where they're coming from i could tell you though like it's it ain't changing anytime soon i don't think there's an easy

solution to it so i i side with him like don't fucking don't worry about it just like go do shit do you think people are happy here people are happy yeah oh i don't think you were happy anywhere cliner um that's a deeper question i'm pretty happy i'm happy all the time i get to have this job i you know i if christ if that fucking yak wheel it's been a different way i'm selling fireplaces in new hampshire and that's not a joke and like that's like i i'm so like i come to work every every day man for fucking 20 years for a good 18 years i would hit this news button and be like i can't but i gotta go to fucking work today for 18 years but you know what you know happy every day you

that is palpable with you and i don't know if that's palpable for everybody else i think but i also don't think it should be like but but but it makes a difference like the internet will like that the internet knows that the internet can tell that you're a weird dude who was selling fucking fireplaces and now gets to do this wacky shit and then you can kind of feel a sense of entitlement or laziness or whatever you want to call it or whether it's right or wrong there is there are those vibes on the internet where people like feel that sort of shit. Whereas Clemmer, you will get,

the people will love you for one reason or another. Well, they probably, I mean, I'm sure, I know myself, when I was, say, six years ago, I'm in an office, a windowless office.

They gave me an office, but they didn't give me a window. And I'm selling- Those are called closets. Yeah, exactly. You're right, exactly. You get your own office and it's like, oh, thanks.

And don't mind the mop uh and i'm selling fucking you know signage and it was a fine job and it was great but like i was thinking every day oh my god i would love to be and i've been following you for a long time i thought because of the mess and jet stuff so like oh my god imagine you know being able to you know talk mets and jets all day being able to – like every guy listening to this right now, I don't care if they're auto mechanic, if they're in a cube, or if they're in the windowless office like me, they're all like, I would give anything to be on that couch and get paid for it. It's amazing.

And to be able to do it is great. And I think that – and maybe this is a New York problem. Maybe this is on us a little bit. I think we kind of like sometimes have lost that. And we're just kind of so in our own head. It's no we have a great job enjoy the fuck this is awesome oh yeah that that i mean i've always been very cognizant of that that like a lot of barstool issues or barstool problems come across as you know champagne problems yes fact for sure but also then when you are in this world and you are in show business you are in hollywood

basically this is the new hollywood we're not doing movies and shit but like internet content is making millions of dollars it's making superstars all that shit once you are then in that world you are then kind of playing by those rules where certain things that maybe come across as like oh why are you complaining about this or that it's like well that's that's my fucking job that those are the things i have to worry about. You know what I mean? So I do get the frustration from some people or complaining about certain things that, yes, the ditch digger is going to be like, fuck you.

But it's like, I'm not a ditch digger, dude. You know, like there are people in this world who are then like, well, I want to succeed and get here and do this and do that. And all these things stand in my way. And they're soft, they they're pussy they're whatever but they're real in in in this realm you know i i understand that i and you also right you have to you're acting you have to tell your story whatever your story is and you know whether it be you're

staying at a fancy hotel because you can afford it or whatever it is but i think there's a real as much as i'll defend the new York office, because I love these guys, and I love being here, but there's an enthusiasm issue in New York. And I think, it's not my money, so it's easy for me to say, but if we went and hired three 24-year-olds,

or whatever, maybe an old guy like me, or whatever, and paid them whatever we pay a starting person to be here, and they were excited to be here, and they had new ideas, and were amped to be here, I think that's how you change the attitude. Your baby yeah i i mean i see what you're saying but

like i don't i don't know i like i'm the newest hire on that four and i've been here almost two years but the that's not that long though bro but for for any job like to be the newest hot like i would think you'd want some new fresh fresh voices. But a lot has happened. We know the company is in a different place. If Penn was around, there would probably be more new faces. So it's – there's also just circumstances that matter, business that matters. Of course. No, of course.

And Dave's thinking – When people are getting fired, we're not going to be hiring new people. In the 20 months I've been here, there's been a wild amount of changes. Totally. Right. And I said it's easy for me to say. It's Dave's money, not mine. It's one of those things, too, where

it's like when your grandfather's talking about walking up a hill both ways. Well, it's better now. That's nice. But the way you're describing again is Barstool Sports. I remember

the first time you guys came to Milton, you were like, this is the most oh totally horrifying i was i was just about to jump in and say like listen guys we can talk about this forever and circles and circles and circles it's it's what barstool is it's where it came from it's how it's run and it's not changing it's not and and i you know i probably would do things differently it's not up to me there's probably you know it's it's gonna be this way because doing it this way made it what it is right you know what i mean like dave's always like shut the fuck up because i got it to 600 million dollars i would love to say like well maybe what if what if it was a billion if we

did things a little differently he's gonna go shut the fuck up and i'm gonna go okay you know because that's at the end of the day what it is now dan has become such a superstar in his own right he kind of gets to run things his own way i would love to have been on a level of dan where i could like tell dave to fuck off i'm not so he still runs this place there's no nothing's gonna change you know what i mean i like that's just not gonna happen i can't look at i tell Dave to fuck off. I'm not. So he still runs this place. Nothing's going to change. You know what I mean? Like, that's just not going to happen. I can't look at,

I don't look at the world that way. Like, I don't, Dave's, right, 99% of the time, he built this place, he's done, he's, he's like I said,

he's a content genius. He's amazing. And he's also like, when he walks into the room, you're like drawn to him. It's bizarre. Like, he's like, I met Bill Clinton when I was, New Hampshire primaries, when I lived in New Hampshire when I was a kid. you were like drawn to him it's bizarre like he's like i met bill clinton uh when i was uh new hampshire primaries uh when i lived in new hampshire and i was a kid i was like 20 years old i met him and you're just like holy shit like you don't even

know who this guy is just kind of like what is this what is this creature we were talking about that with rogan like you just had like an aura yeah and you're like what is this being yeah um and uh it's like that with him and it's like only the second time i ever felt that way like you know around like and it's just like this is uh you know what is this guy um but i i will never i cannot and i just won't because you only get 80 years here man i'm just not gonna be like well that's the way it is and then it's not gonna change i can't look at the world that way it's just like brother i commend you for it the world needs more reviews than me's i'm just saying that like i i would probably say the logical counter is the way dave has done it has brought about more success for barstool than failure does i think

this is categorically wrong these things these instances but without this you don't get this story that's right you know like the everyone's favorite like what's different about barstool is think about like all the other fucking media companies like everyone is buddy buddy everyone's best friends everyone's friendly or at least on camera like what makes it different is that there's drama and so we love the drama until the drama like you know rabbits got the gun sort of thing i love the drama too i don't like the fear that's the difference totally but but but i would say that like the fear that's happening right now i again i'm talking for dave i i don't know if i was him i would probably be like the fear that like six or seven people are feeling right now i don't fucking care about because overall this vibe is what got us to this

place yeah i would say dave right and i and i understand what you're saying again i don't i disagree i think you i think both can live in the same world but that was what i wanted to try to do at one point here and i don't think that's going to happen but so you know your your your strategy is would be you want to hire new people i don't know i mean it's easy for me i said it's not my mind just get energy in here. I think a couple people coming in here every day being like, this is my dream. Might kickstart a couple people being like,

I'm being a little complacent. I know what you're saying, bro. People do work here. There's working and then there's getting after it and going for it. And I get that you also don't feel like you can go for it when there's no safety net and when you have a fucking dictator ruling over you and all that so a lot of it kind of goes in like dave's always gonna be in charge and i think dave being in charge is a good thing

because it keeps people on their toes i think all that's don't get me wrong dave being in charge is a great thing him yeah obviously he bought back the company we i would be fired i know that or i would have been when my contract's over i would have been gone like that's a that's a fact obviously i'm the last man i would have been the first one out they would have thrown me out with the trash i think we all would have been out together oh yeah that was coming that was coming i think i was the first i think it was probably i think it was about two people who were not going to be out of the trash that was about it why is that skinny man thrown out of the street um i don't get me wrong i do think there's a difference though between working and

like aggressively believing in like, go fucking get it. And if you bring some new people in. Now, also what sucks is you bring in someone like Brianna and she's not here because she's a superstar. Right. You know what I mean? So little breaks like that where it's like if that person was in this office all the time, it would be like a different story. But that's the exception. So let's go to the last hires, the Barstool Idol.

You know, Caroline, John Rich, me, Danny Jackal, Jeff Nadeau. We're all doing the best we can. None of us are superstars. Right. Like, I mean. Don't sell yourself short, Clever. No, I mean.

Climaholics were fucking. No, but none of, no, you know what I mean? Like, we're all, like, I know John, I sit next to John Rich every day. He busts his ass. He's doing the rundown.

He's blogging. I'm grinding too. I'm trying to think of an idea, whatever. I'm doing it. So, but we're all. I'm grinding too. I'm trying to think of ideas, whatever. I'm doing it. But we're all kind of like grinders. We're not superstars. We're not even remotely close to stars.

But we're all just grinding. All right, but let me counter again. And this guy is – the guy I'm going to talk about is – I think we're slowly learning or quickly learning is almost just a superstar status himself. But like Jerry grabbed the golf club and was just like, I'm doing this, and I'm doing this, and I'm doing the fucking hay and all these things, you know? And there's a lot of support and all that shit for him, but, like, there's a bunch of people here who can do that too, you know? Absolutely right.

But let's look at Jerry. Jerry's a great example, though. Let's look at Jerry. Jerry is magnetic on camera. He's funny, and people really like him people were drawn to him he has a thing about him because when he's on camera he's just drawn to him yeah he has a lot of support he's got a guy dan who has his back through thick and thin who promotes him who's making a pathway for his guy to succeed a very clear road yep that's like when i talk leadership, that's what I'm talking about.

That's the kind of shit I'm talking about. And, you know, I don't know if I'm saying mental. There's no question. Dave is Jerry's boss. I mean, Dan is. But Dave is Jerry's boss. Jerry is, Dan is Jerry's leader. And that's what we don't have.

And that's what I don't know how to fix out there. And I have no idea. I don't know who it should be. You could ask me. I've been thinking about this for months. I don't know how to fix out there and I have no idea I don't know who it should be I've been thinking about this for months I don't know who it should be go through the names, they're either too young haven't been here long enough, no one really makes sense Rowan's probably the best option

but then Rowan's busy doing a zillion things so I don't know when I was attempting to do it and Dave went on an unnamed show and was just like, I'm the boss of New York. Yeah, you cut your legs out on live TV. But it's just like that's not changing. I mean, unless a Dan comes along, I guess.

There has to be another megastar. But if he's like, I run New York, and he still really wants that yeah you know control and all that like that's that's the answer fellas it is that ain't it and if so okay so if that truth is true then how do we adjust that truth and make the make people want to do more content that's all i'm saying how do we get people to do more content and that's how what are we ever gonna beat chicago i don't i don't know no i don't it's a stupid question. Are we going to be able to make better content? I hope so because right now I think we can improve. Yeah.

I think Fright Drops is right. We are working. People are blogging. We don't get – I don't think we get enough respect or whatever. People in the comments are quick to shit on New York. We are working. I think we can do better. And how do we do that?

And I feel like I'm worried it's starting to go the other direction a little bit. The pendulum is starting to swing a little bit. People are just getting kicked in the face for so long. And I actually, I'm picturing literally a Christmas story. Maybe I don't have my, my ear to the grindstone, but I,

I, I, a week ago, I would have said the exact opposite. And I, nothing's changed in that last week. I, I,

I think people, I mean, people were silent on Friday. Whoa! I mean, they were. Oh, I thought he said you. No, no, no. I said people were silent in the office on Friday.

So, I mean, the last week hasn't been great. But people were silent because the boss told them you better be silent. Right. That's a different thing. That is true.

That's true. But I think that has a ripple effect. I think when that happens, then you know then that sprouts off well when i mean like now you start thinking about more what you're saying instead you start doing that you're gonna make shitty content yeah i i think it's hard to put yourself in the spot of like a new person or someone who's not on our level where it's like they really probably are like i'm not gonna say shit right now because yeah i mean i i also like i said i i also would not have said anything but i but i was i in the office friday you were still in the air in the thing everyone was like wait why

the fuck can't we say anything and everyone was like you're told to act like nothing's happening i want to really categorically say that's happening that that to me if if it is the way i understand it to be true i think is a low point for Barstool Sports I want to be on the record saying how categorically against that I am if that is the case that's insane, that is fucking nuts it was very stick by stick it felt like

someone's doing something pretend it's not, he's not doing it what? the exact quote was like act like he's just walking in for work. That's fucking crazy. Did he do that? We were bringing eye contact.

It's crazy. We were like, even when he walks into work, we say hi. Like, it's like, walking to work, we talk to him. Honestly, if there was some fucking grand plan payoff, like, trust me on this. Like, it's going to be amazing you know and then like the camera moment happened and it was like wow dave like called it you know but there was again maybe there was a miscommunication somewhere i know for a fact that's what i was told yeah by multiple people yeah i was like i went down the stairs and like i said it's not about me you know i went to

the stairs and it was like there was no one there and i'm like oh i'm gonna go to the office and be like super like you know i feel like i was walking to a surprise party it feels like uh um the silent tree when someone hits a home run yes right like that's what they said on the act like oh they're probably just doing that like no one's mad at you i'm like all right and i went back out it was still quiet i'm like all right guys still love you guys like i kind of get like yeah what's going on yeah well you're also smart enough to proceed it was it was like i was talking to the stool scenes people they were like i mean we can't get any footage for stool scenes. They told us no cameras. I mean, that is all so crazy. But I genuinely, if I really had to guess, I think Dave fell in love with this joke and this segment and this bit and just wanted it to go his way.

And when there was talk of like Gia and like Kelly and Ken Jack and people ruining it I think he was just like stop like I have this like plan of how it's gonna go cause he kept saying the people don't know what they want I know what's good and like to some extent he's right on like how to build it that way and I think he just wanted people to stop touching it and

I think he was misinformed on that one like I don't think he maybe I'm wrong I don't think he fully understood what happened and maybe I don't fully understand was misinformed on that one. I don't think he, maybe I'm wrong, I don't think he fully understood what happened, and maybe I don't fully understand what happened. As I understand it. Yeah, he characterized it as like, we are sitting around watching the stream, doing nothing, and posting it.

As I understand it, someone, I think it was Gia posted a video of Kelly watching it. Right. And again, as I understand it, somebody zoomed in on the URL. If you zoom in on someone's computer to find a URL and type it into your computer, you're a fucking loser, and I have to imagine

a couple thousand people did that and that's it. You are who you are. Once one person does that, I don't know if you're, I don't know, I think it's me, you're looking for details. But once that gets posted somewhere... Yeah, you're one of me. You're looking for details. But like once that gets posted somewhere. Yeah, you're one of those.

You're one of those freaks, weren't you? You would have zoomed in on a computer, on Kirk's computer. You know what I like to do? I like to zoom. Sometimes a picture I like to zoom in on weird, like the wallpaper or like a book. I look at the book. I like to use bookcases. Bookcases are fun to look at.

Like what do they read? But the important thing here is that all of this then falls on tech. Because if you type in the back end. Yeah, you should not be able to access our preview blogs. That should not be accessible to everybody. I agree. It wasn't a published blog. Again, as long as I'm understanding everything correctly, someone reading a URL to a draft should not be able to type that URL into a

thing and get access to that draft. And even being like, well, what are you doing? What are you not working? You're just watching a stream. It's like people are blogging. People are doing it. You can have a stream. Bro, it's fucking Barstool Sports.

Things are on the TVs at all fucking times. All the time. We're not zeroed in on a computer. We're going to pretend we didn't have people just watching soccer and gambling games. People just watch TV. Anything. Walk into any entertainment company also especially around these are on the tv people will glance at it while they're doing

i'll be on my phone or i'll be on the computer looking for things to blog about too like it's not like you know they're more importantly like if i if i if i walked in i'd be like are none of you watching the climber stream right now yeah yeah like the biggest thing in the um the company's happening like right now and you guys are just ignoring it. That would have been my thought. But I really think he just had this vision for the way he wanted this thing to play out. And anything that even fucked with it a little bit, he was just going to devour. And when he gets in tornado mode, it is just watch out. Like, don't. There's no talking.

Yeah, yeah. I don't have the long answer. The short answer is this one blows over, and we do it all again next time. Now, how did this go in your personal life? Yeah. I had some family that was upset. My wife gets it. My wife.

I met my wife. I met both my wives doing improv. Right. So my wife, she gets it. Like she gets caught. She understands this content. Yeah. I told her anytime she can reach out and pull me out.

And I'll like, if we had a death in the family, whatever she could. So she had basically the golden ticket where she could have told Vibs to pull me out. And Vibs would have had to pull. I told him you have to, that's a down ass bitch to be like,

did she ever consider making something up once she found out the stream was gone? No, she was like, she was like worried for me, but then I can't, let me tell you that. Like,

listen, if you did that, then you're then, then port noise, the crosshairs aren't your wife. Oh, yeah, yeah. You lied about it. No, no. She said she had an hour when it pulled, and she was like, concerned for me. Like, what's going on?

And then she's like, all right. But you would just stop. Again, the important thing, though, is nothing changed for Clemmer. Nothing. He did everything he was going to do. Let me just say, you sleep like a motherfucker huh dude that was the only thing i would say it was a misstep of yours was you slept a little too much i don't sleep i had maybe that's why i had two hours of sleep last night i don't sleep so i go to bed usually around 2 2 30 i have to like usually get myself to go to sleep and then i get up around 7 i usually get about five hours

sleep a night that's usually just what i do i go sleep between 2 and I get up around 7. I usually get about 5 hours of sleep a night. That's usually just what I do. I go sleep between 2 and 3 and get up between 7 and 8. It's just like what I do the rest of my life. However, I have an alarm clock. I've had the same alarm clock since I was 6 years old.

It's the one relic I have. Who has an alarm clock at 6 years old? What a fucking freak you are. I'll send you a picture of my alarm clock. It is a General Electric alarm clock from 1987. One of those fucking... No, no of it. Snooze. Snooze. I'll send you a picture of my alarm clock. It is a General Electric alarm clock from 1987.

One of those fucking. It's digital. It's the red digital. Oh, yeah. That is like the alarm clock. It doesn't have a digital radio. It has the tuner. Yeah.

Remember? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll send you. When I get home, I'll send you a picture because you can show. That's fucking hilarious. I have in this alarm clock, General Electric. Six years old. God bless.

This thing works like the fucking balls. I'm six years old going ride and grind. Got to go to first grade. Let's go. And I've had this alarm clock. General Electric God bless This thing works Like the fucking balls I'm six years old Going ride and grind First grade Let's go And I've had this Alarm clock I said for 35 years

36 years of my life 37 years of my life And It's awesome And it's But that's If I don't have my Alarm clock

On the weekends I'll sleep And I didn't really And then what happens Is I'll get up And I'm so groggy Because I sleep really well I actually got up to pee

a few times in the stream which is very weird for me I usually don't and I I usually just sleep through the night I'm like a zombie and I wake up

and I'm really dumb and I usually sometimes will take another nap when I get up but like on a weekday on a weekday I don't sleep I'm famous like my family and friends

are all like you never sleep so I love that I've become like the sleeping guy. It's so bizarre. And also, I'm just bored as fuck. Do you have any roundabout calculation for how many hours you slept at last week? Yeah, it sounds like, let's say I was in there for 100 hours.

I would guess I probably slept like 45. No way. Maybe. I had four nights of sleep, right? At one point, you were putting in 12-hour clips. You slept for half the week? I don't know. I get it, Dave.

I get it. I don't know. That's insane. I don't know. That's what I've heard. I guess I was going to bed. So I thought I was going to bed at 11. I was going to bed at like 9 o'clock.

Yeah. So I also didn't. Remember, I don't have any idea of time. So I thought I was going to bed later than I was. Because I also – I told them give me dinner any time after 6. And sometimes they give me dinner and I'm like, it feels like it's 7.30. I think it's probably right at 6. So then I think it's – and then time goes by so slow in there.

I think it's like, oh, it must be this. Did you have any freakout moments? Like were you like, all right, I quit or anything? I got bitchy Thursday night. I got for an hour, I got kind of cranky. I'm like, I don't want to be here. This is, like, no one saw this. But then I literally stopped myself.

I go, oh, my God. There is, because you know where office is. There were literally, you know, 30 yards away from me, people sleeping on the sidewalk. I'm like, they wouldn't give anything to trade places to be in this room for the night. I'm like, what the fuck am I doing bitching? Like, stop. Like, stop.

Like, stop. So then I got, but a good hour, I whined like a little bit. I think, I forget what day was what, but I remember I came in one day after the stream was off

and it was Thursday or Friday and I asked Vibs or somebody, I was like, you sleep a lot last night? They're like, 12 and a half hours. I was like, oh,

by the way. I was like, get the fuck out of here. We got to, we got to, I got to hype up my guy, Viv. So Viv's worked his ass off. I know, and I love the fact that the puzzles and the rice divided people. Be like, this is a dumb thing, or he should do it. He's lazy.

I love, I love the fact that people were like arguing about it. That means it's a good challenge, in my opinion. You want that, you want people to love it or hate it. He, a couple nights he slept here. He was, so then his of nights he slept here. Uh, he was, and he, so then his whole job shifted after Wednesday.

He went from taking care of me, taking care of me and helping Dave do his project. He was the one running the printers to get the puzzle. Like he was, uh, a man on a mission. So like Vivs should get a ton of credit. He is, I know I talked to people online.

It was not a good friend he is a great friend that's not true he took care of me well there you go there you have it that's the perfect example of just like people on the internet talking about things that they don't fucking know about but i can understand how they look that way though like oh you gotta let him out like the point he was he was literally had two he was like serving two masters they're like i gotta take care of this guy he's my friend you're saying you're a vibs master well for that week. He said,

he's like, I'm taking care of... Can we use that word anymore? It's an old expression. Is it that old? He's like, I'm taking care of... It's an old expression

from 1861. He said, I'm taking care of a 44-year-old man this week. He had to feed me. I got to be fed. But then at the same time, he's like,

I also can't let him know what's going on. Did you jerk off at her? No. You didn't pound off the whole week? Dude. So Robbie Fox. I don't know if I believe that. Oh, I will.

I'll swear on a ton of Bibles. So. All right. I'm not religious. Are you religious? I'll say this. I swear on my family's life. Did you have any moments where you're like, I would love to jerk off right now?

No, dude. Was there any part of the gene sleeping? I did hear your explanation and I thought that made sense like keeping your routine. But was there any part of that that was going to like,

maybe this will pin her down? Oh, like the penis? Oh, yeah, the penis. Dude, okay. So a few things. Pin the penis down. Let me explain this for a number of different reasons.

Like, I didn't even contemplate it. A, I'm 44. And Robbie said, he's like, you know, you gotta let the demon, he said on Stool Street, you gotta let the demon out every day. I'm 44 And Robbie said He's like You know You gotta let the demon He said on Stool Street You gotta let the demon out every day I texted Robbie

I said bro When you're 44 You gotta let the demon out Like you can go Bro that's been one of the biggest shifts In my life I remember being like I'm gonna be just

Criminally horny For the rest of my life And then Thank god It has subsided In recent years When I was like 14 It was like

What are you fucking 15 Every other hour? Watch porn? But like, there's... When you watch people fuck, you're nuts. I've slept on camera a couple times. Sleeping on camera is a little creepy. Very creepy.

You don't know what you're going to say or do. I think every single time I got hard. Oh, really? Oh, so I felt... When they woke me up for Survivor... Your dick was hard? I was like, you need to give me a minute. So you were doing the fucking thing with your dick tucked up?

Yeah. You were in the challenge, though. And I just balled the comforter up and I rolled over and I was like, so when's the challenge start? Five seconds. Right now. And I was like, well, I'm going to need every second I have. Did you come or did you just get out of control? No, I've never had a butt cheek in my life.

No, I mean, did you jerk off to get rid of it? No, no, no. No, just go away. It was the least sexual roommate. There was nothing. Remember, too, I had a beast. I had no... I'll make any room sexual, bro. You ever been to a

port-a-potty at Preakness, brother? Not exactly the place where romance is more. There was no, obviously, there was not even a picture of anyone to look at. I was like,

I had a baseball encyclopedia. Bro. Bro. What would I? You think I need a... That's the oldest thing you ever said. Come on.

And you just talked about having your alarm clock from 86. I didn't have a picture to look at. Fights, man. When the JC Penny catalog came and I was like 12 or 13, you go to that bra section, that's like a month of good times. When you're in 1992, that's all you have, man. But now it's like, no, I honestly never... Like I said, if I did that when I was 24,

if I did it when I was 14. Come on the ceiling. 14, that's like. Painting the wall. Yeah, you're like, what is it, like three, four times a day. Like easy. You're literally an insane person. You're a dangerous person when you're 14.

At 44, it's like if, you know if you know twice a week's like that's a lot man honey i don't know like i i we you know wasn't it wednesday we just like i don't know like you just you just you get old like it just happens like it just so no i honestly i did not even cross my mind plus if i did can you imagine like how that would sound? Well, I would hope you would go to the bathroom or something. That bathroom's awfully close to microphones. Listen, if you were thinking about pounding it off while you were on the camera or something, you're a fucking lunatic. No, but if you go in the bathroom, what if God heard? Oh, my God.

That would be insane. Everyone just ripped their earphones out. Take that visual home. No, that was not even contemplated. Virgin Mary full of weed, Hitler's balls, cocaine, chickens, and a priest with a shotgun. What? Am I talking about my weekend? Oh, no, folks.

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Did you break solitary confinement? Absolutely not. I have proof of it. Stupid question. I have proof and I don't know if anyone's brave enough to find this footage And I have proof of it. Stupid question. You're so stupid. I have proof. And I don't know if anyone's brave enough to find this footage, but I can prove it.

On Wednesday night, so all my entire life, I've never clogged the toilet. I've never clogged the toilet. My life is a point of pride for me. I'll tell family. I'll tell everyone. I've never clogged the toilet.

Yeah, there's no shit in your body. You can't... That's right. That's absolutely right. I don't eat a lot either, obviously. Like a rabbit trying to clog a toilet. Got a better chance of jumping in. Clever clogging a toilet was shit?

No, clever clogging a toilet. You fell in. 1983, but we don't talk about that. No, so I... The water levels in the toilet were always so the first time i went into that room the toilet didn't work oh no so we had a backup plan the backup plan was always that if the toilet breaks i could use the there's a bathroom in that same hall and uh i actually drew a sketch of it which nobody saw because i showed the camera but i wasn't on stream but um so on the same floor there is a bathroom i would gladly take a video of this and maybe that's the first thing i do on my

youtube channel i'll go upstairs and i'll show people the bathroom is uh it's actually a cleaner bathroom than my saw bathroom that i was in and i was in there and i say to the camera first so i call it the toilet the water so we got the toilet to work the water was always changed the toilet was really faulty the toilet clogged because i used like you know two pile of toilet paper and it clogged so i didn't have a plunger in there either but i'm like i'm gonna try my best to stay in this room as long as i can but if i use that bathroom okay because as long as i don't go down the stairs i am not i'm still in solitary confinement that was such a technicality play by dave and kirk to be like, no, no, no, no.

He stepped out. It's like, anybody with a brain, anybody who was saying that you broke was... This was in meetings? I went so far. I looked it up. Okay. I looked at the definition.

Research John and definition John is out today. This is scary. Bro, the thought that John was so fired up about this that he looked up the definition of solitary confinement to prove that you didn't break it. And did research's blog count? Look at this guy. Number one climaholic in the world.

He says, although solitary confinement conditions vary from state to state and among correctional facilities, systematic policies and conditions include confinement behind a solid steel door for 22 to 24 hours a day. Obviously, you didn't have the steel door. You had the whatever. But even if someone

wants to make the argument that that door was it, you're out for 30 seconds, 22 to 24 hours a day. Right. Well within the window. Well within the window. Severely limited contact

with other human beings. Well within the window. I think there was some, I believe you said you saw a camera, not a cameraman. So I saw a camera. Now, I did,

sometimes when Vibs would feed me meals, I a couple times saw a finger. Okay. Now, when I poked my head around the stairs, I go, sometimes when Vibs would feed me meals, I a couple times saw a finger. Okay. Now, when I poked my head around the stairs, I go, what time is it? You hear me, I'm panicking.

What time is it? I looked over and I saw, you know how sometimes cameras have like that square, you guys know better than I do, like kind of almost a squarish looking lens on top of the camera? I don't know how I'm going to describe this. I'm probably sounding like a moron. I saw just a glimmer of that.

And I go, oh! And I ran back in the room. Now, if I had not seen that camera Would I have gone downstairs I think probably yes But I don't know Alright we'll cut this No I But that still

Still doesn't know You're still within the definition But I'm always I always want to be honest Because if I'm not I really We gotta teach you guys a lot I really want to

No because this is important And it's my And if I win down this. See, at the end of the day, I don't give a fuck. If anyone. I don't. I know. Let me just say this.

I don't care. I would have fucking murdered you if you made it like 98 hours and then walked out. What did you think was going to happen? They were going to come get you at 100 hours, bro. What was the original plan? Like the original plan before Dave got involved, before anything. What was the original plan for? How was the 100 hours got involved, before anything. What was the original plan for? How was the 100 hours supposed to end?

So, yeah, I think it was going, the original plan that I. Because I was thinking about it. I bet they didn't talk about it. And then he thought to himself, wait a minute. I never told someone to get it. So maybe now I do. No, there was. So we, I didn't know any of the challenges except for the last one.

The last one is going to be me staying. So they wouldn't be like, listen, we have a deal for you if you want to take it. You can either do the 100 hours or yeah an hour early but you have to stay in uh you have to be compact for an hour straight and then if you do that would you have done it i don't know i think at that point i was almost ready to be like fuck it i'm gonna do the full 100 i was gonna almost deny it and i was like fuck let's go guys but then when i started my mind started scrambling and i try not to let fear dictate my job ever here but i was kind of a basket because that point i'm like i don't want

to be accused of not working now so now i'm like i'm obviously on dave's radar and like should i go and write a ball like what do i and you can see this is a great shot in stool since my eyes going back and forth you can see my brain the monkey in my brain is like what do you do what do you do um because when the only thing that gave away this was a thing honestly was dave because when dave jumps on the microphone i'm like why does dave care about little old me like this is obviously a bigger thing than i think it is that was the tell right but then i got mind fucked that i'm gonna get yelled at for not working and i don't want to appear lazy but then i also didn't realize people

were calling me always got a sleeping but i didn't know that yet yeah so i'm like i don't know what to do and you get you you see like how i'm moving and how like i'm very kind and i'm doubting myself every step step i take i'm doubting myself but i'm it would have been really painful to take that step on that stair i never got that close so i don't know what i would have done but if you put a gun in my head said what would you have done or like i said i think i might have gone down the stairs maybe no i know but if i'm not i would have been honest like why would anyone believe me part of me hoped that you were like gonna like walk towards the door and then stop and be like i'm doing another hundred fuck you guys like start banging out push-ups to be like i live here now fuck you i didn't know what you

guys know yeah yeah and i feel like i kind of had that moment when i saw the camera and i said i stay like i was really like oh that was proud of that bro i made i made a whole video that ended up uh like you know when your your tweet goes to tweet and then it just like dies yeah i said i don't think i ever saw the light of day you're just going i stay and it is zoomed in on your face i stay i stay it was like if he stays, I stay. Let's go. Clubaholics rally. Like, I felt good about, like, I had this weird, like, Truman Show moment where I catch the camera watching me.

Because I was watching that camera all weekend. It did kind of stop tracking me at one point. I'm like, why? Yeah. Well, because no one was watching. But honestly, the Ken Jack stuff, any of that stuff, I had no idea. Morse code. What are you with?

But, like, I said, anything almost made me think this is a, this is great. People like this. They're, oh, are you? I said, and it almost made me think this is a, this is great. People like this. They're like, oh, let's go. Yeah, everyone's watching. All right, last question

and then we'll wrap up. When you first put the puzzle together and it said like 50,000 tweets trending in America, were you like, I'm bugging my answer. Oh, yeah. I'm like,

fuck, people like this. I did it. That was when you were. That part's mean. But funny me. That's funny me. No, no. Because I knew what the it that was when you were that part that that part's mean i was no no because i knew what the next puzzle was and you were like thank you so much this is so great that was sickening i was like stop talking no but that to me is funny mean like that's that's like mean but that's like like it was it had a payoff i also like i know i spent the last whatever how

long i've been doing this thing like everything should be nice we need to have more enthusiasm and like I'm promoting this kind of gentle office. I do say like I work at Barstool. Like when you sign up for these things

you know like there's a good chance you get your head shoved in a locker. Like I get that. You get kicked in the face every day at Barstool. That's why you work at Barstool.

But like you get like you get like that can happen. So like when I put the puzzle together it wasn't like I'm working at Disney and it happened. It's like alright like I get it. Some fuck shit happened but fuck shit the puzzle together it wasn't like i'm working at disney and that happened it's like all right like i get it fuck shit happened but fuck shit happens all the time here but at the end of the day and like this is what i thought

when i went back in i sat and i thought for a second i'm like i'm doing this and this is maybe where i went wrong with content and that's a great point i'm doing this for me now you can say all right well then don't do that at work but i still thought it was a good enough idea to do here i think i think that the best content i think you'll have flops occasionally obviously of course i think the best content will always be and this isn't some you know revolutionary idea will be what you're doing for you like that'll always be the best i agree 100 if you're pat if like if i'm gonna do it i'm passionate i'm gonna care about it more i'm like and like like rat race i love doing this i love every element

I love it so much. It makes me so happy. I think we have the next a new episode coming out next month I'm so amped and I love it. I'm so passionate. It makes me so happy like It just makes me thrilled and I'm gonna have stuff I saw their time, but which is like was that even good? I don't know but I I love doing it I also think part of the reason why Dave was like I'm gonna take a big dump all over this is because he knew how much you loved it But it was just like, you'm going to take a big dump all over this is because he knew how much he loved it. If it was just like, you know, again, if it was me, I think he'd be like, I don't know. Well, then he better start eating like a lot more prunes because I'm going to keep doing shit and he's going to keep shitting on it.

Talk that shit, Clemmer. Eat your prunes, he says. And that's okay. And I, you know, I'm okay with him taking shots. That's fine. And honestly, like, I have no problem taking, and if you want to see me coming on thursday i'll or i have unnamed i'll take i'll i'll tell you everything i'm saying to you guys yeah yep like that's fine that's that's the one thing about clamory always keeps it real so it's all it's all very intriguing stuff i think if you're into barstool it's you know interesting questions i don't know if there's real answers, but it's a good look behind the curtain for sure.

I have a question before we go. This is for everybody. I was asked the other day to make a video for my high school welcoming accepted students. What the fuck am I going to do? That is the last thing I think I would ask John. Bro, bro.

Like, like, I was like, of course. Do they know? Like, do they know you're. I like, bro. Do they know who you are? Yeah. I'm speaking to eighth graders. I'm like, oh, my.

Do you guys like podcasts? Then there's a chance. That sounds like a good crime. I've met one you've listened to. I am one I have the phone number of the guy who owns Miss Peaches.

What am I supposed to do on that? I'm genuinely asking. Everyone tweet at John what he should do. I'm not going read it Okay The I don't I don't know

Just do some generic shit then Mix in there A couple of jokes And if the You know whatever The 5% of kids that are You loved high school right? I loved high school

Oh there you go Talk about that The best years of my life Were in high school Is there a teacher That's still there That's when you were there And you can like Make fun of that teacher A little bit Like you know playfully No school right I love that best years of my life we're in high school is there a teacher is still there that's when you were there and you can

make fun of that teacher a little bit like you know playfully funny you should ask what happened to my favorite teacher maybe your second favorite all right

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