KFC Radio - Kontent Kim Reveals How She Feels About Alex On Mean Girl Pod - Full Interview

Episode Date: March 6, 2023

Timecodes: 00:00:00 Start 00:06:03 How Kim feels about Alex taking about sex on the pod 00:12:51 The difference between Kim's life then and now 00:16:09 How KFC does One Minute Man 00:32:51 How working with Alex has effected their relationship 00:39:39 Confrontation with a partner 00:52:00 Kim's take on One Bed One Bank account 00:58:38 being a stay at home mom 01:03:16 Befriending Lisa Ann 01:09:05 Chat GPT 01:18:30 Kims thoughts on Alex doing Rough and Rowdy +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Sportsbook: Must be 21+ Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER Gametime: Download the Gametime app or go to gametime.co, enter your email, and redeem code KFC for $20 off your first purchase (terms apply) Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions and manage your expenses at https://barstool.link/RocketmoneyKFCYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/kfcr

Hey, KFC Radio listeners, you can find every episode of KFC Radio on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. So, what do you think of the Mean Girls content? Is that tough for you? Um... All right. You ready? Yeah. We've got one of the fastest growing rising stars of the TikTok world.

Oh, that's nice to hear. Yeah, I mean, you have, I think, one of the biggest TikTok accounts of the company, right? Do I? I think so. Or at least the best performing. Oh, I don't know. No one's told me these things. Yeah, no, I think you're doing very, very well.

I believe that the last time we looked at the last social media report, I think you were the only account that was outperforming ours. Oh, really? Yay. That's good. So what – you interest me a lot for so many reasons. Okay. Because you're by far the most unique employee here.

There's nobody else like you. There's a million of me. There's a million young guys, young girls, sports. Everybody's kind of talking about the same things, coming from the same mindset, but then you're out on an island, really. I sometimes feel like I'm on an island. Yeah, I'm on an island. Trying to figure out everything I'm doing. What takes you guys about 10 minutes to do takes me about an hour.

I'm sure. I feel that way guys about 10 minutes to do takes me about an hour. I'm sure. Yeah. And I feel that way. Like it's just all of this stuff is second nature to the young people. So as you just get younger, it just becomes like – I mean the stuff that my kids can already do with phones and video games and stuff. Like by the time they're – I mean they're going to leave me in the dust, right? So it's always kind of that way. But you, I would imagine to your peers, you're like light years ahead of them. I mean, like my parents, they have no idea how to even like find my work or let alone do it.

My husband's kind of like that. Yeah, yeah. So like I mean, do you – did you make like a conscious effort to like keep up with all this or like, how does it, how does it come about where you wanted to like actually do TikTok and. Well, I've always, I've always been kind of tech savvy. Like I was the one that always did the computer. I was the one that always had to do all those kinds of things for everybody.

Had to do their phones and all that. Right. Then it just sort of, as they grew older, I kind of fell behind. Right, right. So I just try to keep up. Right. Yeah. But, like, how did it come about that you and Alex started to do, like, your content together?

She just started filming me. First, I didn't know she was filming me some. Oh, okay. Yeah, and then she'd just pick on me. Yeah. So did she know that, like, you were – Well, the first thing she did was when she came home with her hair that was blue. And she usually – she did that every year for the Thunder, but it would be just a tip, and this time it was really blue.

So she knew I was going to have a reaction, yeah. But so she just kind of had a vibe that you were, funny on camera or charismatic or whatever i think maybe they just think i i'm kind i'm like out in left field a lot so i think she probably thinks that's kind of funny but it worked it really works for some reason i don't know i think there's an appeal because you're you are it's not like there's plenty of people who like just film their parents and do like a prank or get a reaction, like you said. But you can do stuff that a lot of people can't do. The way TikTok works with a lot of the lip syncing and acting in a way and back and forth,

you guys are very good at that. The lip syncing is the funnest part. It's coming up with the stuff that I'll think something is so dumb. And then that'll be the one thing that people like. And I'm like, I don't get it. I know. To me, the weird stuff, like the things that I think are funny, people are like, I don't care about it. When they show me the TikToks that have the most likes and loops and all that, I'm like, that? That was so fucking dumb. that have like the most likes and loops and all that. I'm like, that? Like that?

Yeah. That was so fucking dumb. Yeah. And that, I guess that's what, that just plays in that world. I guess. People just want to laugh. I don't, and you never know. And were you just down to like, I just want to do this with my daughter?

Or like, were you like, I want to do this for work. I want to do, I mean, like, like we know you're set. You're fine. You've, you've had, you know, you're set you're fine you've you've had you know you're you're were you a professional model well before i got married yeah yeah so you had your career you've had your family yeah you are set financially it's not like a you know a need to do this thing you want to do this right right but i wanted to do it with alex like that was the main thing right right just like have a nice thing to do yeah with your daughter so when when did

that flip from like hey i'm just doing this like funny thing with alex to like holy shit we're getting a lot of followers people are paying a lot of attention probably when we were doing the podcast she kept getting really mad at me and that's kind of when i was like okay this is i no matter what i do it's wrong right now was it like actually mad she was getting pretty frustrated with me but i mean it was kind of like we would go back and forth like i'd get frustrated with her because she wouldn't communicate but then when they probably when she started doing mean girl and i was by myself that's when i was like okay now this is work right like it's hard so what so what was your like thought of mean girls

and how that all unfolded? Because up to then you're doing everything with her. She's doing everything with you basically. Yeah. I felt a little dumped because I was here. That kind of was frustrating. And then I was – but I was glad I was here because had she been doing Mean Girl and I didn't watch how that all came about and how things happened, I probably would have been at home just dying. Yeah.

Like my friends would have been going, oh my God, can you believe what she was talking about? That would have been really hard. So, so I, I'm glad I was here for that to kind of get through that. Hard in what sense?

Just to like see it unfold and know what was going on or hard to watch her go through it or you like you're. No, her conversations on Mean Girl. Oh, okay. About all the sex stuff. That would,

that I would have been hearing at home probably would have been going, oh, my God, that is so not Alex. So that's kind of my next question. Yeah. And then Big Cat was like, so Alex is like, don't listen to it. So I didn't listen to it. And Joe doesn't even follow the Mean Girl to get the clips or anything. And then not long ago, Big Cat was saying something. He goes, no, it's okay for you to listen to it now.

And the one I listened to was – no, it was – You can't listen to – These people who listen to Big Cat. Big Cat is always stirring the pot. You have to know that. So it was setting boundaries with your parents. Oh, boy. And it pissed me off so bad.

Did it really? Yeah. Like you were actually angry? I'm mad at her now. Yeah, I'm really mad at her. Are you guys in a little fight right now? I'm in a little tiff with her, yeah. So when those things happen...

That part's hard. But I mean, we've always gotten along. So going through this has been hard because we haven't been getting along. Because of Mean Girls? Or just because of what she said? No, probably just the work dynamic. Because at first she was kind of helping me a little and then I'm kind of on my own, which is hard. Right. And it's Right. I mean – And it's different. I get that mom-daughter thing. Like that's hard.

I wouldn't want to work with my mom. Well, it's weird. I mean it's like on the one hand, yes. But on the other hand, it's like that's – That's how it goes. Well, that's how it started. I mean like you can't necessarily be like, oh, I hate working with my mom when the whole thing started. Like let's make TikToks with my mom.

You know what I mean? It's one thing if she started and you're like helicopter mom and you swoop in and it's like, mom, like, let me do my thing. It's another thing when you start together and then so. But I think it was hard on her too because it was like she's trying to get going and get her footing and all that kind of stuff. It's been huge and it's been great for her. And then trying to explain it all to me again, is backtracking. That part's kind of hard.

So would you... I mean, every parent wants their kids to succeed and do well, right? Is there a... In your mind, is there a world where you would maybe be happier if you were just like, I was just her mom at home and you get a call from your

daughter like, hey, great news. My podcast is like exploding. And then you're just happy rather than feeling like mixed emotions. It's almost like mixing business with pleasures, business with friends and family because now there is an element of like, well, that's good for you but bad for me. Yes, but I don't know. It's not really bad for me. Yeah, she said bad. It's not bad for me.

I'm very happy for her. I think it's awesome that they're doing great. I think – and I love that Graham is working with her and all that kind of stuff. That's working out really well. No, I think I'm glad I did it, for sure. And I'm learning a ton. So that part's good. It's just kind of hard going back.

So not having family here is hard. Because Jo just goes back and forth. And so that part gets a little bit hard. And then when she's busy doing her thing, that's the part that's the hardest right so you'll be here she's doing her thing yeah so then it's kind of by myself yeah right and then trying to learn everything it's like that part's really hard because nobody like your daughter can explain those things right like the way they can like just get it mom this is what you do be kind of mean about it or whatever not mean but just but like yeah yeah, I know how to talk to my mom and like what she'll respond to and what will make it click for her.

It's like, let me just tell you. And yeah, nobody else is going to feel that way to tell you. Yeah. I could see that being – that's why I don't – I was thinking about it for myself and I was like, would I want to like work with my kids and i it's got to be such a different thing versus when they're young versus later in life where it's like because i do feel like parents have such a hard time keeping connected to their kids when they get older i know so many parents who feel like actually a lot of people tell me a lot of older people who watch one minute man say the thing that they like the most is that they can go to their kid and be like, hey, did you see that blah, blah, blah happened?

And their kids are always like, hey, you know that. And then they can have a conversation. But I get the feeling that you two have always kind of kept up with what was going on and stayed young and stayed in her world. I always tried to, but I talked to my kids a lot until I feel like I've talked to them less now that I've been working than I ever have. I'm sure.

I mean, you're doing your thing. Yeah, and both of them would fill me in on stuff. And Michael, my son, fills me in on a lot. He'll say, this is what's going on. He explains things really well to me, which is good. Good. You need that, yeah. What was I going to say? Is he older?

He's older. He's 31. Got it. And Alex is 29. Mm-hmm. What does he think of all this? He thinks it's great. Yeah. Yeah.

But he thinks it's been hard on me because he – like to explain this to Joe, if I were to bring you into my job, what I do now, which is like private equity stuff, and didn't tell you anything and just said, okay, do it, that's kind of what it's going to be like for her. So then he kind of got it a little bit. Right. Because otherwise he's like, just do it. Just figure it what is going to be like for her so then he kind of got it a little bit but right yeah because otherwise he's like just do it just figure it out you know you just can't no that's well i think what people look at what we do as like not work or it's fun so it's easy and it's like that's not if it was easy everybody would do it you know i guess that's true like everybody would want to have you know everybody is trying to get followers and all that stuff in this world even if you don't do it for professionally right but if it's so easy to just do it like why don't you do it why don't you have all these followers why don't you go viral so i hate when

people like you know it's it's only natural because i think they do that people do that with fun jobs anything that has any element of fun isn't work and it's like i can assure you that's that's not the case no it's a lot of work. You have to be just self-motivated work all by yourself. That to me is the biggest thing. I always tell people when they ask me how to do it, you just have to keep

doing it. I did the podcast when nobody was listening and we just did it every single week because I liked it and because I knew you have to just keep doing it to get better, listening and we just did it every single week because i liked it and because i knew like you have to just keep doing it to get better to grow the audience when you do hopefully eventually pop there's all these episodes to go back to and listen to like you just have to do it even when it's not you know flourishing making money viral whatever but i think that's got to be very

different when you're like uh like when i was young and doing it i was first of all i had equity in the company so i was like i want to make this thing as big as possible i was young and like i had energy and i wanted to do it and like all these things like and even just going through a few years of parenthood now i'm like so fucking tired and so just like i don't want to do any even now like sometimes like i gotta do this one minute man i already did the podcast or this is and i'm just like i just don't do it you know yeah so like that motivation i'd imagine is harder as as things progress right so like were was were you at a place where you were like hungry to do

something or was it hard to get back into that mode or were you always that way? I was kind of bored. Ever since I went to college, I felt like I'm not the one that can just go play tennis and be fine. I kind of get bored with that. So this has been good for that because I deep dive into everything I do. If I want to find a purse, it's like I'm on the computer for days trying to find the right thing. Got it. So that's just kind of your personality.

That's my personality. But this, there's really no like means to an end. Is that how you say it? Or ends to a mean? No, it's means to an end. So you just keep going. And so like it seems like people kind of get bored of things when they're on watching social media stuff where you just have to keep doing something different almost. Yeah.

But then you also have to do something consistently. I know. You've got to find something that they like and keep giving them that. But then you can't do it until it gets stale, so you've got to find something new. But that can't stray too far from the first thing you did. But if you do too much of that thing, then that gets boring. It's a very delicate balance. I do feel that.

Were you – are a lot of the people in your world a lot of friends and family like the let's just go play tennis let's hang out of the country club type like are people were people surprised by this move by you i think so i think they were surprised when i got an apartment up here yeah because she's really doing yeah and then i've been gone a lot so i mean a lot of them play golf and tennis they're busy like but they're doing those things a lot i just i don't know why that just kind of maybe i should just start doing golf more but i you know i don't play golf at all uh and sometimes i think it's like my biggest mistake ever because for whatever reason in this world golf gets this like pass it does get a pass like if if husbands were like hey we're going out for

the weekend with the boys we're just going to vegas to party a lot of wives and women would be like no you're not but it's like it's a golf weekend with the boys and they're like oh okay yeah you're gone for 54 holes a day yeah whatever you know and i'm like what is this free pass that we're giving out that i missed the boat on because I don't play golf? First of all, I've never had that where I could say, no, you're not doing that. Well, that is a good way to be. That's good. That's good.

That is a very good way to be. I think that's probably why you guys are happy and still together. But I also find it like I can't believe how much people like it. It's like you can play this or my friends could play it literally every day all day and never get tired of it and i'm just i need more than that i am brain dead yeah nine is like perfect yeah like like we don't need to do this for yeah i can only think about nine holes and then i'm kind of like okay i just need to look at my phone i want to go shopping or let's start drinking and talking. That's what I'm talking about.

Let's cut out. Everyone's always like, well, it's just a – it's not really about the golf. It's about hanging out. I'm like, well, then let's just fucking hang out. Yeah. No, I think it's about the golf. The weird manual labor shit. Let's just get to the fucking –

A lot of the guys that play a lot have these games that they play for betting. Yeah. So it's just – Betting is part of it too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I – as much as what we do is kind of like silly or stupid, I actually find it very – I think it's a big challenge.

I think it's like a puzzle. You have to figure out what people – what makes people tick and do that. It's actually very intricate when you get behind how to really do it. You're so good at taking something that like when I watch the One Minute Man and I think, oh my god, all the things that you bring out about something are so funny and so spot on. And that's like a knack. So not everybody can do that. Well, I try and I'm learning. I feel like your daughter and her co-hosts have the ability to do this too.

It's like I'm trying to learn to talk as fast as I fucking can while still enunciating every word because you only got a minute and 30 seconds. So I'm like I got to get this topic, this topic, and this is the other side of it. And here's the facts and here's the not, you know. When you do that, how many do you, how many retakes do you do? It really depends. Like if it's a topic I really know well, it sometimes will truly, rarely, but sometimes it is just like one, one minute. Like I'll just do it and the first one is good.

But I mean, Pat has seen me sit here sometimes and I'll do it like 40 times in a row either like i'll have a day where i just like i'm like i just can't get the words out or i also tend to be like a perfectionist in it where it's like if i can do it a little bit faster i can fit one more joke in and it'll be that much better and these guys are always telling me with tiktok like a lot of it is very unpolished and doesn't need to be produced well. And you can just have, you know, your little cut out of you in the corner, just kind of talking. And I just can't bring myself to do that. I'm like, I gotta do it as good as I possibly can. Because even if I do a bunch of takes, it's like maximum an hour of my day. You know what I mean? Like, that's not that crazy to like, I'll think about it. I'll'll do it i'll take a break i'll find something else new i'll redo this like even when it's

absolute worse than i've had i do it a hundred times it's not that much time out of my day you know so i'm like i'd rather do it and get it right and be like happy with it because well that's pretty impressive so how do you not like how do you find the things that you're doing you just you're just reading the news that much i just keep pretty much. I just keep – that's for better or worse. I've just been so plugged into the internet for the last decade plus where it's just like open up Twitter in the morning and just see everything that's going on. And then these guys too, like a lot of the younger people, I'll be like, what's going on in your world? And I can try to keep up with all that. And then – but usually I'll know know what is it's pretty easy to find

like the topic of the day really like if you just keep an eye out you're like this is what everyone's talking about today and hopefully it's conducive to doing yeah i mean like i think twitter is impossible to read like i don't know how you get news off of twitter twitter well you have to really curate like who you follow and what you see because then if then if you follow just who you want to see, like, it's actually – I find it – you can, like, tailor it to exactly what you want. You know what I mean? Yeah. So if you, like, follow all your friends and all their friends' friends and, like, dumb shit, it's, you know – All over.

It's a lot of clutter. Yeah. But if you follow, like, a couple news outlets and a couple, like, aggregators and, and you know then you can use it to find out like what people are talking about but i could i mean i'm i felt left in the dust by snapchat i felt absolutely like i tiktok is like i cannot i do not get it at all like i open it up and it's just like the user interface and the way you record and how you edit i'm like i just it's it takes me forever yeah so i'm so impressed because i think facebook's that way now facebook i have not even looked at in like forever and these guys put a lot of our stuff on there and it does well and it is important it's so fucking so many people

it's like hundreds of millions of people on facebook and it's maybe like a little bit of a different demo but you can't ignore you know that many people but i i use facebook facebook came out when i was first in college and it was more just like a college networking thing and then i used it a little bit in the beginning days of blogging but i have not i'm like a twitter and then i grew to instagram and that's where i like shut off like old dog new tricks like i couldn't do facebook i couldn't do snapchat i can't do tiktok i don't know how you do it i mean i i feel like it's very impressive how much even if you were the tech savvy one and you keep up with a lot i just feel like i can't imagine

like there's going to probably be how many like do you think there's going to be another one eventually, right? Another app. Probably another several, right? Do you think you'll keep doing all of them or do you think you're like, I'm good? Maybe, but I don't do Snapchat at all. Yeah, Snapchat is more like – I just didn't figure that – I don't – Well, Snapchat was weird because it was really kind of designed for people to message each other.

That's what I thought. Sneakily. It disappears. It disappears. Take some pictures and some things. But then there's kind of like a business side of it where like we have a channel that is actually very profitable. So like we – Okay.

It's either like you're using it for inappropriate shit or it can actually be like as an organization. So it's not very like social like the other ones where it's like hey send me your tiktok and like we can talk and comment and all that stuff like your business card almost yeah yeah yeah in a way right right no i keep waiting for someone to say well they're not going to do twitter anymore i mean um tiktok i you know that's what's scary about like as much as i think this whole business has turned to the social media platforms. Like every time they change their rules or their algorithm or what you're allowed to say or not allowed to say, like you're totally at their mercy. So if TikTok does like, you know, the government bans it or whatever. Right now they instituted a 60 minutes.

If you're 18 or under, there's like a parental code, and you get 60 minutes of time. You mean the parents have to set that up? Yeah. Okay, I saw that, and I wasn't quite sure. But I thought they were doing it more like for the people to get information from us. That too. Yeah, yeah. They were doing that for the mental health part.

I think TikTok internally is saying like we have a lot of kids on our app. Yeah. It's not good for them to be on it hours a day. Let's do this parental code. I think externally is the whole it's based in China and they're taking information and the government doesn't like that. So there's two sides of it. But – No, it would be hard to – like how old are your kids?

Seven and five. And do they do anything on – They don't do social media but they watch a lot of YouTube and they play like Nintendo games and shit like that. If I were to tell them – they're not that bad. I mean don't get me wrong. There are definitely days where they could sit in front of a screen for 12 hours and not miss a beat. But can they get to anything on YouTube? Because there's some bad stuff out there.

So there's YouTube kids, but it's like almost a little too – Too kiddy? Yeah. And then I try to just keep an eye on like – or listen out like I have an ear. It's funny. Sometimes they know. Like my daughter was watching something where they were talking about like how to like sneak around your boyfriend or something like that. It was like what I heard.

Sneak around your boyfriend? Yeah. It was like don't tell him this and your boyfriend won't say whatever was and i like popped up and shay like immediately was like oh no that was that was just something else like totally caught in like as if i caught her in a lie she's like no i wasn't watching that and just like hitting all the screen so like we we try to keep an eye on it but i'm sure you know there's yeah there's a lot of weird shit out there yeah no i mean i think it'd be hard to think you were really pretty with all the stuff that's out there like just that

kind of stuff and also the way the parents watch stuff so when i was at plotties the other day the girl said did you know you can look at your story and see who's looking at your story yeah i didn't know that so she said oh yeah when we would go out and party we could see which mom we would bet which account they were going to go to first and then see who they looked at so they would know what was going on. I was like, oh my gosh. Like you can't hide from it. Yeah, I mean, that's a big thing. I don't think everybody knows that.

So a lot of times exes and people who don't like each other and all that stuff. I thought if you liked it, like I remember when Michael would date someone, my friends would go on and they'd go back, you know, five years and like some of their posts. They'd be like, who's this woman that liked all my posts last night? Yeah. But I didn't know that they could tell on the story.

I was like, that's creepy. I thought it was just kind of up there. No, I think if you want to look it up, yeah. I don't really look or care about that stuff, but a lot of people, you can do a lot of stalking and you can see a lot of stalking if you're like paying attention. Yeah. But this is all – like you like all this. Like again –

I think it's really interesting, but I feel like I'm just very far behind. Yeah. I just feel like I would be so over it. Like I'm already kind of over it. Sometimes I want to cry, but I haven't been doing it as long as you it you know sometimes i want to cry but i haven't been doing it as long as you i mean sometimes i want to cry because it's so frustrating yeah why can't i make this work right i know it's the worst yeah i mean or or like if you make something you think is really good like the good stuff that doesn't perform and the shitty stuff like you said

that doesn't perform and you're like you're like why do i try why do we even bother yeah why did i spend two hours editing this? Yeah, I know. But I also think it's just something good. Like I think that you're spending – I don't know. We'll find out. What do I know? I haven't reached this stage of life.

But I think this is more intriguing and engaging and interesting than like let's go play golf for the 50 millionth time. Yeah. It's fun being up here. I love being in New York. Was that like a family discussion to be like, I'm going to be splitting my time? Yeah, that was a family discussion.

Was that received well by everybody? Yeah, because it's kind of like, at the beginning, it was like we were really just kind of doing it all for Alex. So that part was, if I had said, I'm going to do this for myself, this is just kind of who i am i would have never spent that much money on myself really but if i just think what you're doing for your kids for my kids i'd be like okay we're gonna do this i gotta have a place blah blah blah wow yeah otherwise i probably

would have still been staying in a hotel room if it was just for me so wait so you ended up getting an apartment here and at that point you were like i'm doing this for alex yeah like she needs i need to be here more because she was like you you don't have to move up here you can just do it every once in a while and then she's like no you need to be up here more and but i'm like i cannot stay in a hotel room for two weeks at a time that's just like hell yeah um so was that was she i guess maybe like surprised by like if she went into it saying you can just come up every now and then and then did she get here and she was like wait a minute this is like serious business so we want to you know we got to do it a lot more a lot more often a lot better whatever we were doing the podcast was like you

need to be up here every week i'm like that's going to be a pain in the ass totally yeah yeah yeah yeah that's a lot to go back and forth it's not like you're driving you know in from jersey or something like that it's it's like yeah um but i have loved that park i've always loved new york city so it's fun for me to get to do that. Give you an excuse, yeah. Are you doing a lot more in New York? Or do you just come, do work, and then go home? I feel like when I'm here, I'm working the whole time.

Yeah. And my friends, it's like every time I have to go home, that's when they get to come up. I mean, it's inevitably that way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like that's happening this month, too. It's so frustrating. Right. And when I'm here, it's kind of – okay, so it's like when I travel.

When I go on vacation, I really don't call my friends and stuff when I'm with my family. I just don't. Yeah. I feel like I'm on kind of a vacation when I'm here. It's like two different worlds. Yeah. I feel like I've sort of grown away from my friends a little bit and I don't like that part. That's tough.

Yeah. So I have to try to make an effort to go, you have got to keep talking. Sure. I mean I already feel that. I'm very – like I can not talk to people for a long time and I don't feel like they're less of my friend. I know a lot of people don't feel that way. It's like I haven't heard from you but it's like my best friends will just slide right back into it. And so I'll not text or like if they organize a dinner on the day of, I'm like, I can't make it tonight or whatever, which I'm trying to be better about because it is shitty.

But I'm also like – I think I grew up – we moved around a little bit. So I kept in touch with friends through like AOL and AIM and Messenger and all that. So like to me, like texting or chatting is like a value like a viable way to have a friendship you know what i mean no i think some people think they need to be in person or whatever that's fine like some of my best best friends for years i like only talked to on the computer or maybe on the phone and i was okay with that you know so i i think like it just depends on what kind of person you are as far as how that goes. No, I do think texting – I mean I think that does keep you connected. But I think as you get older, you think I have to have more experiences with them kind of.

Because you – like they'll say that having friends in your life makes your – increases your lifespan. But when you're younger, you're around people all the time and going and going. And then as you get a little bit older, it kind of changes a little bit. Well, you know what I was thinking? I was having a depressing thought. I was thinking about – I mean, yeah, when I was in my 20s, I would see – it wasn't even like a question that I would see my friends. It was like we would finish work and then where are we going? It was never like are you going to be there?

Are you available? It was just like we all are going to go out every night possible and i'll see you always you know and now just thinking about how infrequently i'm seeing some of like my like actually really good friends and i'm starting to do the math and i'm like at this rate at this rate i'm only going to see you like 30 more times my whole life. How long do you plan on living? I don't know. But like, you know, there's a couple of friends like everybody's I guess it's different.

Everybody starts to have kids and some people moved. Yeah. And it's like, oh, I haven't seen you like in a couple of years, maybe. Yeah. And it's like you start to extrapolate that. And it's like, wait a minute. If we only see each other once every two years when people I used to see every day of my life. And now all of a sudden it's like you can start to count down the number of times i don't know i mean obviously that's dramatic and you can always just start to see your friends more but i was like holy shit it does seem like

like when your kids are young you're and you're going to be friends with those parents a lot and you go through that and then as your kids get older you're still kind of friends with those parents but then you kind of come back to some of the ones that you were old earlier yeah i have not done a great job of being friends with the kids parents i feel like maybe because i'm divorced it's like more of a mom thing and i think sometimes i would gladly do it but i think other people don't think i want to also so it's like yeah i'm probably not as good at it and they also don't like include me in it. So I'm like I kind of know a couple names but I'm not going to be texting them and interacting with them. It is kind of a mom thing or a couple thing I can see.

Right, right. I feel like it would be weird. It's weird if I'm like I need to get the phone numbers of another mom to talk – to set up our kids' play dates. That's going to come across weird. You know what I mean? Well, maybe not, but your ex wife probably does a lot of that.

Yeah. Yeah. But I also want to like, I don't want to have to go through her. I want to like have my own, you know, the kids, I have the kids and they want to do a play date or whatever.

Like I got you, you know? Yeah. But it's not, but I also like, I'm not really interested in new friends, you know? You're not?

Not like, no, like I don't want to. There's a couple dads that I've met at school things that I'm like, all right, you're cool. But my thing is I really don't hang out all that often. So when I do, I want to see my real friends. Yeah, that's right. I don't want to do small talk with someone I kind of sort of know.

It's like I want to just go hang out with my real friends. But, you know. I'd rather be with my – like if I'm at a party, I'm in hell because i can't stand small talk but i'd rather just be all the people that i know yeah right right and we can just cut through that bullshit and get to like the the gossip and shit like the real talk let's really go um but so you you start coming back and forth and like so will you go out in new york will you first of all you are the best dressed person at barcel oh for sure every time no i mean i don't even think it's a question every time i see you posting a fit i'm like this woman she's got style you you got the

best wardrobe in the world but are you are you going out when you're dressing up? If Joe's in town, then I will. But if you're alone, you're just hanging out in the apartment? Yeah, sometimes I'll go eat, like sit at the bar by myself. Yeah. You liking it? Yeah. Like New York? Yeah. I do love New York. Yeah. I just, I think

sometimes you have to get away. From home? New York. Oh, from New York. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, totally. You kind of got a good thing going. Yeah, like the fact that when you hit that, you're like, let me get out of here. Yeah.

And you're going to a place that I would imagine is basically the polar opposite. Polar, yeah. Where exactly are you? In Oklahoma City. So it's in the city, though? Mm-hmm. Yeah.

But still, the city there is a lot slower. And like when I'm at home, we don't have the restaurants and things that we do here. Yeah. You live it up when you're here. Yeah. I mean, it's just so great to have all these places to go. And the museums.

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Yeah. I mean I told my mom, do not ever read or listen to anything i do and it was easy because one she doesn't really have an interest in like she's like okay if you say so okay i don't want to i don't want to be awkward your stuff would be like offensive um well back in the day it was a little worse and like the One Minute Man stuff, she could. She could watch that. The podcast, we get into some weird shit. We talk about sex. We talk about weird, like funny guy shit, you know.

And I was like, this is basically for like, you know, the guys or young people who are like drunk at the bar talking, you know. It's not for you. She was like, okay. But also, I think even if she wanted to, I don't think she could like download a podcast and listen to it she just doesn't do that she watches tv she reads she's not into the modern world but even my sister i was like she sees me on instagram more so she she knows but she doesn't listen either she's just like you know uh that's not you know that's not my brother this is my brother do you feel like does your mom

she doesn't really know what's going on with you then I'll keep her apprised of what's happening at work especially because my brother left his job a while back and came to work for Barstool too

she didn't love that she was kind of like we are now putting all our eggs in this basket what if it doesn't work out what if it works out for you but not for him or whatever and she got very nervous and i was like it will be fine don't worry it all worked out but she's a very much like worrier and stress and and all that so um you all have baseball together yes baseball is our thing for sure

she's the craziest side of all of us. And you have grandkids. Yes. So she has grandkids. She loves – and I like – my brother is in LA and my sister hasn't had kids yet. So my kids are like there all the time. So they're very close. Is your brother in LA married? Yes. And has kids? Yes.

Okay. They did live in New York and then they went out a couple years ago where her family's from. But I was like, yeah, don't – it will just be better if you stay away from it. Yeah. For you, that's not really an option because you're a part of it in a lot of ways. I mean you're working at the same company. You're going to end up like hearing a lot of it. So that was like – were you surprised by some of it or did like did you did you not know that about alex or you just had never heard it about alex like some

of the things they were talking about i pretty much alex just never really she never really cussed a lot or anything and never she's always kind of been a prude all like her so that so yeah that was like kind of yeah i don't curse in front of my parents oh you don't so that would be weird too because okay so i probably cuss more than Alex has in her life. Yeah? They get mad at me for cussing. You think. Now you learn that not really, right?

I don't know. I feel like she probably just started cussing. I don't really think of her. I mean. She just started cussing. Do you think that she's changed her style at all? Are there parts of her that's like, you know, you didn't do that before Barstool? Oh, yeah, for sure.

Really? Yeah. In a good way or a bad way? Both. Yeah, both. Do you call her out on the bad stuff? I did did but now i'm trying not to say anything okay yeah was that a discussion like please leave me alone let me do my thing no but um it was kind of like because i was when i was kind of getting on her nerves i could tell i thought i'm just not going

to say anything yeah well that's cool that's a cool but we've always been really close so i think that's very obvious like but but i feel like you to recognize. But we've always been really close. So I think the thing about – Yeah, I mean, that's very obvious. But I feel like lately, like in this – maybe it's because she's so busy or whatever. It's kind of changed a lot. So that part I don't like, but I'm glad that I've been here to learn a lot of it. That part's good. Well, but it's weird because it's like the busier that she is, the better.

That's for her career. And you want your best for her, also it it is also it's frustrating yeah it's the mom daughter part yeah yeah i could definitely see that i don't know how mom daughter like like father son like if my dad worked at barcelona with me it would be incredible yeah it would be no big deal yeah and if if something happened where it was like dad like you know i i'm not gonna see you as much because i'm going to go be doing this thing. But it's blowing up. I think he'd be like, yeah, whatever, dude.

You know, I wonder why that is different for mom, daughter. But even well, I think I think it's not different. It's not actually different. I think it's different in the way that it would get handled. You know, like, yeah, like my dad would probably be hurt, too, or upset or whatever. Like, you know, oh, I thought we were going to do this together. But now you're doing this thing. But he would just be like yeah okay you know whereas i think you know it's more like or no i think it's um probably the communication part along the way yeah that would

have helped yeah i mean well we you know guys they don't ever think anything. No. I mean, we're like Irish Catholic guys. Like, we're not going to talk about our feelings and what's upsetting us. I think that's how Joe's like. My husband's like that. He's like, just get over it. Like, just get over it. I'm like, well, I'm trying. Is this a life-altering problem? Like, you know, are we in a fight?

Are we going to get a divorce? If we're not, then let's just move on. If we're fighting, is the friendship over because of this? If we're not, then let's just move on. We're fighting. Is the friendship over because of this? If it's not, then let's just get over it. So I think that's a guy mentality where girls – but we're stupid for that because it just sits inside and then it boils up. Or does it really not bother you? No.

Well, it depends on what it is. Little things like I have learned like as my life has gotten more stressful and I've gotten more responsibility and gone through more shit, I have realized the things that I used to care about and bother me, I don't give a fuck about anymore. I'm like that means nothing anymore. The things that used to hurt my feelings or upset me or bother me, whatever, at work, at play, I'm now like, oh, that was a cakewalk. I would love to go back to that. So I left all of that in the past, and now I know what stuff really bothers me or whatever. But I still don't work through any of it. It's just like push it down as much as I possibly can, and then once every three months I'll just have a complete breakdown and cry and physically get it all out and then just start over again really yep i wonder if my son does that because he didn't ever act like it probably i don't know i i i don't know

him but i i definitely know other guys who do that or it's just like it's easier to ignore this and then have one big it's not actually easier because it takes its toll over the years yeah but in the moment it feels easier it's like i just don't want to fight right now or i don't want to feel this right now or i don't want to argue right now whatever it is so let's just push it out of the way i'm the opposite if i can't get it fixed right away i get i'm just obsessive about it you know that thing like don't go to bed angry or whatever yeah yeah yeah see i actually i i subscribe to the exact opposite of that. You're like, just let it blow over a little? I think the mornings – I think the nights are always bad.

They are. You're right because everything – Yeah. I don't know whether it's just the whole day is on your shoulders or maybe you've had a couple drinks or you're tired or whatever. But I found I'll wake up in the morning and be like, that was stupid. Let's just – and at night, it's like, do you really want to do this? We're going to talk about this right now at like 10 o'clock or whatever it is. And then things are said and whatever.

And then you wake up in the morning and it's like, oh, boy. Now we can't like undo any of that. You know what I mean? That's true. But I think the thing is like just don't let anger – don't blow it off. Yeah. Well, you know what it is? It's like – for me, it's like i would love to not go to

bed angry yeah but so can we have this discussion and wrap it up no but like if we could talk about wrap it up and be happy and be happy with each other and then go to bed fine but that's gonna take a little while and it's getting late we got shit to do everyone's gonna wake up and you know so it's like a lot of times we're only gonna we're to be in the middle of the argument now and we go to sleep. And then you're really not going to sleep. Exactly. And then the morning is like, well, did we talk about it in the morning? We got to go to work.

You know, I don't know. To me, it's like sleep on it. A lot of things in life, what is, there's some, there's some like famous, it's like, is this going to matter in 10 minutes, 10 days, 10 months, 10 years sort of thing? And I've found that like nothing in life often falls into anything past like maybe 10 minutes. You know what I mean? Like so often. I do think sometimes when your feelings are hurt, like you have to get over that. You really do just kind of figure it out.

Yeah. But I do also think like I think sitting on things as I get older is probably good, but I'm not very good at it. No, I mean, well, you got to know who you are, what you can – like I can compartmentalize. Like I am the greatest compartmentalizer of all time. No, I wish I could do that. I think that's awesome. But you don't because it's like it's terrible for you because I just have things that I've put in this compartment that have just been sitting there for like 10 years. And they are going to explode one day.

Isn't that how a guy's brain really is? Like it can be – it's – and a woman is just all one big circle. That's certainly what it feels like. I don't know if it's literal or not, but that definitely is what it feels like to me. I mean I – there are definitely times like when I was like really going through it, I would like come in here and turn the microphones on and it's like a different – it's like split personality. You know what I mean? That's good. Like in those moments, I am not thinking about it at all

and then everything – turn the cameras off and it's like, oh, wait a minute. I got to go back to that. But I have found that I can definitely like depending on who I'm with or where I am or what I'm doing, I can compartmentalize it all. But I don't think that's healthy at all. So I think you're probably healthier. But it's good for work though.

Well, it's like good. It's like it's effective. Effective for work. You can still work and not be upset. That's not going to show in your work. Right, right. But like for the long run, like mental health, I don't think it's good. I think it's probably actually very, very bad.

So you're probably – the way you handle it is probably much better i think you see it gets on people it gets on my family's nerves then you want to talk about it i want to get it done yeah like we're gonna finish this and go on the other side of it i respect that i what i what bothers me is when it's like incessant like let's talk about every little thing because it's upsetting my feelings like that i can understand people being like stop yeah but if you're i respect being like we got an issue let's fucking deal with it and move on yeah because that is also especially with family it's like we're not going anywhere so let's get this over with you know that to me is actually more like my style than than not you know yeah it's like we're

different but in a lot of ways that makes sense where it's like let's yeah but it might come off to my kids that i'm doing it the way you just said, that bugging thing. Yeah. Right. I guess it depends on the gravity of the situation and what is, you know, if it doesn't bother them at all and it bothers you and it's like, well, why are we even talking about this? I can see that. I do think you should tell people when you're pissed off at them. Maybe not, but I think you should.

Your family, you should tell them when you're mad. I. No? I don't i know i don't know i don't know the answer you're probably wiser than i am i don't know i feel like i have gotten to a point where i i don't tell any other adult what to do no you shouldn't tell what to do. No, you shouldn't tell them. Or what to think. Yeah. Or like, if we disagree on something, like, I'm just like, okay, I don't know.

Like, that's the way you view things. That's the way you're going to handle it. You are a grown-up, fucking functioning adult. Like, I disagree with that. And if it's a thing where it's like, I'm going to do the opposite,

or, you know, I don't know, sometimes it's like if you're, I've also, you know, it's when I was single for a while, it's like I just do what I do and don't have to really work with anybody. No, you know, I don't know. Sometimes it's like, if you're, I've also, you know, it's, it's when I was single for a while, it's like, I just do what I do and don't have to really work. No, you can't change what people think is okay to do. But if they, if they are not nice to you, or like, it's kind of like, what is that? Um, do it, do it once shame on you do it twice. Shame on me. That kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You definitely can't let people like pull you over. I totally agree with that. But even with family, you kind of have to say, that pisses me off.

Don't do that again. But you can't really say it like that. I'm so afraid of confrontation. I'm not good at that. You're not? Yeah. But that's good. I mean, I think that's what you just said about, like, you can't change people.

Yeah. I'm always like, I can't change that. And you do that thing, and it pisses me off. And I don't think you're going to change. If you're family, I'll just put up with it. If you're not family, like if it's really that bad, it will break up or I'll cut you out, you know, whatever it is. You know what I mean? Like if it's someone that's not in your, in your life permanently, it's like, yeah, if

I had to decide whether that's a deal breaker, but you'd want to work it out. That's what I mean. Like, but, but I mean, I don't know. I, I've also having gone through a a divorce and probably being jaded and bitter about some of the things. Sometimes I'm just like, people are different and they're going to be different and you can't change everything. And so just decide whether. But that's probably, I go the opposite extreme. You kind of have to go – decide whether you want to – if that's going to be that big of a nuisance to you. Yeah.

Because you don't think they're ever going to change that. Is that going to be an ongoing battle? Right. Yeah. Well, so we had a – it was either a caller or a story. We had a guy call in, I think, and he talked about – there was a picture in the bathroom of their apartment that they hung on the wall. And he was just like, I hate this picture. And she loves it.

And like, what do I do? And John was like, break up with her. It's like, break up with her. Break up with her now because for whatever reason, this picture was like important or had to be hung up or whatever. And he was obviously kind of speaking like symbolically. He was like, that's going to bother you forever. For the rest of your life. And it's going to just like worm into your head and you're going to think about it and you're going to slowly resent her and it's going to get worse and worse and worse.

So just pull the trigger now. And obviously we were being like a little bit silly with it. But I do sometimes think – we were just talking about it yesterday. Like the amount of – that people try to change others I think is crazy where like you see someone in a relationship and it's like I like this and this. But like he's got to change this, this, this, and this. It's like, well, then you just don't like that person. Yeah, that won't work. Go find someone who does all those things. The amount that people will like this is the person for me. But it's like there can't be that person. Yeah, that won't work. Go find someone who does all those things. The amount that people will like, this is the person for me, but it's like there can't

be that many buts. You know what I mean? Otherwise, you just don't like that person as much as you think you do. I think liking someone is sometimes almost more important than loving them. Oh, maybe. I haven't thought about that. But I do think when people go into a relationship thinking they're going to change somebody, that they're always going to be upset.

Yeah. I think typically we think about it a lot as like women changing men and like their style and who they hang out with and how they act and stuff. But I think it goes both ways. And in either scenario, I think it's just crazy. Like, so when you see... Some people don't notice that it's even happening though. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Totally. I mean, I myself and a bunch of my friends, I've seen one of the – like a situation where you kind of wake up like a few years in and you're like, wait a minute. How did I get here? Yeah, yeah. How did it get this bad or degrade down to this level? But you can see it when it's happening to one of your friends. Oh. You're like, oh my god, they're changing and they don't even get it.

And then if you break up or get out of it, all of a sudden you have the clarity and you look back and you're like, what was I thinking? What was I doing? Yeah. You know. Like, was I brainwashed? Right. What was going on with that? I think sometimes you really do get brainwashed or you get like, you don't want to hurt feelings

or you don't want to, you know, get in fights. Like you can't see the forest for the trees. Like you got to get out of it and go, okay, yeah, that is true what they're saying about that. Right. Yeah. But then when you realize you're like, oh my God. I was so lame and all my friends knew it. I remember being like, everybody knew it?

Like nobody said anything? But I also – like I would never – would you go tell a friend if you saw a friend and their husband, boyfriend, whatever at any stage in life, it wasn't a good relationship or they were acting different or whatever would you get in the middle of it would you be like hey i think you need like i just want to talk to you about like xyz no um i haven't had that happen with anybody really close so i don't think i don't know if i would or not although i there there is one person that i think that happened in like our group and people would say things, but they're still married. So you kind of, you have to be careful.

So like you start, it happens more when you're younger and people break up and get back together. Somebody breaks up and you're like, good, that guy fucking sucks. And then they get back together the next day. And you're like, I was joking.

And they'll never forget that you said that. Yes. Or even just, you got to be careful about how much you complain about your significant other to your friends where it's like the only thing I hear about this guy or girl is how terrible they are

that's kind of what this situation was like the only thing we know is what we've heard from you so and it's like then I'm supposed to be happy to like hang out around you guys when all I know is the terrible things when I was younger like when my kids were little and we would get together and play bridge but we wouldn't play bridge we would just drink so we would sit there and that's it it was kind of like when my kids were little and we would get together and play bridge, but we wouldn't play bridge.

We would just drink. But that's it. It was kind of like, oh, my God, we are exhausted. Everyone would bitch about their husband. And then a few months in, you're kind of like, OK, now we got to stop. Yeah, right. Because all we're doing here is complaining. Yeah.

I mean, you can probably complain about your significant other forever if you wanted to, like find the little things. What do you think about like do you listen? So you do you do or don't listen to Mean Girls? I don't. I did in the beginning. I have a few times. Right. Game time tickets created by the fans for the fans. They are the exclusive ticketing partner for

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I mean, their clips are like mega viral. I see the clips. I haven't seen them as much as lately as I used to. Do you agree with a lot of their takes? No. The ones you do see? Uh-uh. No.

The latest one, if you share a bed, you should share a bank account, ruffled a lot of feathers. What do you think about shared bank accounts? And he said, if you sleep in the same bed, you have the same bank account. And I thought, what a cool analogy to some capacity. I've never understood couples, and I know there are plenty, and I'm not knocking you, but if you go to the grocery store and you have a $100 tab tab and then you leave and you're like Venmo me $50. Don't even, there are couples out there that will keep like, kind of like tallies. And I know it's brought some people full happiness.

Like I knew a couple that were married and they split everything. They acted like they were like friends in the finance world. Everything else was together, but the finances, they were like best friends. They split everything. And that made them happy. That would not make me happy. The Venmo transactions for dish soap and paper towels? No.

Can you go in private? Right. Because it's awkward. Right. It's awkward to see that. I think it's a really good recipe for resenting somebody eventually. That became a big – If you share a bed – yeah, but I don't get that.

You mean if you're married? Yeah. More if you share a bed yeah but i don't get that like you mean if you're married if you're met yeah more more metaphorically sharing a bed but like if you're married that you should have one bank account okay well i have always had my own bank account i think that is like or checking account like i've never shared a checking account with my husband i think that is insane to do otherwise i think it's like a basic human right yeah like if you work and make your own money you have your own i don't even so too. Like if you work and make your own money, you have your own account. I don't even have my – I didn't even work and have my own money. But you still have.

But I still have my own checking account. I don't even get how people can write checks on the same account and not get in trouble. Yeah. Like how do you know what they're doing? I think it is absolutely insane to think we should all put our money into one spot that everybody can see and everybody can watch and keep tabs. I mean it's like literally how you control other people is by like not letting them have financial freedom. I think you should have – you could have a shared one. I have one.

You have one. We have a third one that like we put away savings or we put money for the down payment or we pay bills out of or whatever. I'm probably really far behind on that because I cannot manage money at all. No, that's not your scene? That is not my scene. So just kind of don't tell me. Are you a big spender? Yeah.

Yeah. Unfortunately. So that's not a good thing, yeah. What's your Achilles heel? Bags? Clothes? Trips? Probably trips.

Yeah, like school trips. Yeah. um clothes trips no i probably trip probably trips yeah trips yeah so does it i would do bags but i feel really bad about buying stuff for myself like i would rather i'd give one to alex or i'd do something for michael before i did that for myself right right i totally so i like to buy clothes and shoes but yeah yeah wait so when were you a model a long time ago how old are you i was 18 and 19 oh wow i'm almost 60 yes wow so like right when you was that like work for you in the beginning like that was your first job no my first job i was like 13 well right so you're doing like i don't know working working with my dad what'd your dad do he had a big and tall clothing store yeah before it was like so he before big and tall clothing store. Before it was like, before big and tall clothing was in like Dillard's

or big places like Saks or any of those, no one carried them. So it was a specific spot. It was a community. He had it like in Atlanta and Dallas and Houston and places like that

in Oklahoma City. Is it actually like the company Big and Tall? Big and Tall. Yeah, Big and Tall. Literally Big and Tall. No, no, I mean like there was Big and Tall.

But it was a high end so they did suits and a lot of athletes and things like that yeah cool so we go on conventions and things it was fun yeah yeah it was like a whole world of like big and tall so you were you were um so i was gonna say at 13 you were probably just like working like you know behind the counter or something but you were doing like real work with him in that regard yeah i got so that's pretty cool that was fun yeah so you i always like wow so that means from like then till now i mean you still got the like business and work ethic itch and that's a long time to really be yeah except

for i mean if you count raising kids is working which it is yeah god're goddamn right I do. Are you kidding me? Yeah. I got two weeks of paternity leave as like I got a small taste of being full-time stay-at-home parent. You mean when the kids were born you got two weeks? Yeah. Really? And I was like, I love you kids, but I got to get back to work. This is fucking insanity. Yeah.

It's a little mind-numbing too. It is insane. I give any dad or mom who who stays at home credit my buddy now he so he has a daughter who is probably like six and then they had twins right as the pandemic hit oh my gosh wow and he eventually he was working through the pandemic but like halfway through probably like last year maybe, quit his job, became the full-time stay-at-home dad. So he's got a six-year-old and two two-year-olds. And I was like, I do not know how you do it, man. Because I was losing my mind.

I think it's some of the hardest work. My nanny is well-paid, I think, and she could come to me tomorrow and be like, we are 10x-ing my rate. And I'd be like, okay. I don't know. She might do that to you now. We shouldn't see this clip. We will find a way because I have no idea. I do love how dads are staying at home, though.

Yeah. Well, I mean, it's – I wonder sometimes because I know when I have my kids, I'm a little more lenient with certain things. So if I was permanently stayed at home with them and I had to make sure they grew up exactly properly, I probably wouldn't be as lenient and be as fun. That's the hardest. I am such a sucker i can't i don't enforce i try to enforce what i can if there's any pushback i'm like okay it's fine whatever you want just be happy you know how long were you just stayed on mom the whole time i mean

well i quit i quit working when i was uh right when i was pregnant with michael and then so wait so remodeling at like 18 when did you get pregnant with Michael? When I was 20, I had Michael when I was 27. And then from then until like Barstool? Mm-hmm. Wow. That's crazy. Yeah. So you went 13, working with dad, modeling 18, mom, Barstool.

Mm-hmm. Holy shit. Yeah. That's wild. No, so I feel pretty lucky i've been able to do this yeah yeah were you was it like uh i mean that's a long time though to be like then to go back into the workforce or really like for the first time in like the i mean modeling is such a unique yeah it's not like you're in the workforce. And this – I mean, I worked other jobs too, but I mean, it's like – like, after I got married, I was working in an advertising company,

but it was kind of part-time, and then that's when I had Michael. Right. Yeah. Crazy. But still, even back then, it wasn't anything like the world is now. Yeah. I mean, all this stuff. Right, right, right.

That was 31 years ago or 32 yeah like so if yeah if you were from a different generation and there's no like internet no phones no like there's just no way to really dive back in as easily as you did you know no like if you want to go back to work at age 50 60 whatever and whatever. And it's like you don't have a resume. You don't have – you don't know the world. You don't know the skills. It's like impossible. Now it's like, I don't know.

I'm going to start fucking around on my TikTok on my phone. Yeah. And like what happens? Like what starts as a hobby. Which is great because there are so many women that are doing that, I think. Yeah. So do you have like a community of like moms or TikTok moms or anything like that? No. Do you know the other influencers?

No, not really. Really? No. I'm surprised by that. You are? Yeah. Why? I mean, I don't know how you – because they're kind of like – they're all over the place

and they're all so different. You don't think – like I would have thought that like another mom and daughter duo or just another mom who was like similar to you would like send you a message or none of that? No. I mean, early on there was a couple that like interviewed Alex and I together, but not like, I mean,

I think Heidi D'Amelio would have been the closest. Yeah. Yeah. Like, have you ever know? We've, I mean, we've DM'd and talked to him in text.

She'll say things, but I mean, I don't like see her or anything. Yeah. No. And a lot, I don't know a lot of them. And the ones that are my age, it seems to of them and the ones that are my age it seems

to me like all the ones that are my age that i like or follow are from canada i do not know why really interesting yeah but i think you should maybe you should maybe you should do that okay maybe you should like uh you could be like uh the leader of the group like okay so explain this to me well just like so i started podcasting and eventually like I started to see all the comedians who were podcasting as well. And I guess that developed more as like come on my show and do like an interview. But once – there's plenty of people who I've come across on the internet through blogging and Barstool and stuff that I would like send a message to and be like, yo, I saw that video you made. Like that was very funny or like – or whatever. We talked about like some sort of content that we had in common and then we just kind

of like know each other. Like they're basically like internet friends, which is weird. But there's plenty of people that I don't like hang out with. Yeah. But I like know through social media or whatever that we just like kind of keep in touch. Oh, OK. No, I haven't done that with anybody. I mean like – okay, so I met Lisa Ann in here.

So Lisa Ann. Yeah, she's been really helpful. She's amazing. She is amazing. I'll tell you this. Out of every industry of people we've talked to from sports to comedians, entertainers, sex workers are like the nicest, most down-to-earth people by like a mile.

Really? Like I have never met one of them that has been rude or like arrogant or weird or mean. Like they are just – they just got a weird job. They're like it's just a – But now she does sports things. Yeah. She's like totally transitioned out of it. Which is amazing.

But she's transitioned. She has like two careers basically.. Yeah. She's like totally transitioned out of it. Which is amazing. But she's transitioned. She has like two careers basically. But yeah. She's busy. Like her telling me everything that she does, I'm like, holy shit. I don't think I could keep up with that. So how did that like connection happen then? She reached out to you?

No, I reached out to her. Yeah. See? Yeah. But I was asking her questions. I was asking maybe about who ran her social media or whatever kind of started with that. So you reached out to her. Yeah, and then she just sent a phone number.

So you were already following her in the first place? Huh? So you were following her in the first place? No, I met her in here. Oh, okay. When she came in to interview with somebody. Got it. Yeah, and I was like, wow, she's really nice.

Yeah, and she's always like, like you said, she's like, here's my number. Yeah. Like, let me know if you need anything. And then she just got on the phone and talked to me for like an hour and a half. And like talked the entire time. I was just like going like this. So, yeah like let me know if you need anything and she actually just got on the phone and talked to me for like an hour and a half and like talked the entire time i was just like going like this so is that weird for you what like is i mean that's also a a culture shock thing i think for a lot of moms or you know people at your stage to be like yeah i just had a 90 minute conversation with a porn star today yeah so i did i don't haven't gone on to look

at any of her porn or anything, so I don't even go there. You don't think of it that way? Yeah, I don't even think of it that way. And I just think about her sports stuff. Right. I mean, I don't know how that works now. When I was younger, it would be like a VHS of Debbie Does Dallas

or something like that. That would be the extent of it. It's a different world now, Kim. It is a different world now. I've even seen some of it on Twitter and I'm like, holy shit. Like, how did they get that on there?

Yeah. No, Twitter is Twitter. You certain things you can't do and say, but then you can just upload full blown porn and it's like, that's okay. Yeah. That is just wild.

It really is. Yeah. It's that, that is what would worry me about the YouTube thing. Like, how do you know they're not on Twitter? Well, Twitter, like you have to have a name and a login and all that.

And I – But YouTube, you don't. Correct. But YouTube also doesn't have – like if you put that up, it gets taken down. OK. So there's definitely inappropriate stuff. But if there's any like full-blown nudity or porn or anything like that, that will get taken down. I think I can – they're not like sophisticated enough yet,

and I keep tabs on them enough that I know they didn't secretly go start an account. But like in a few years, it won't be the case. It's like they can just have a secret Twitter. I don't know. So what age did your kids get phones? Michael got a phone in middle school when he started playing golf, and I didn't want to have to sit there and wait for him to finish a round. Sure, yeah, yeah. And then Alex, probably at the same time, maybe seventh grade. in middle school when he started playing golf and I didn't want to have to sit there and wait for him to finish around.

And then Alex, probably at the same time, maybe 7th grade. So that's like 13-ish? 12 or 13, yeah. Because I'm already... My daughter can already text and read and write and shit. So it's like, part of me feels like she could have a phone right now in order to communicate.

They used to have the phones where they could only have three numbers in there i don't know if they think they still do and i think i'm i'm thinking about getting one of those um so they can call you when they're ready or yeah they're not gonna be texting their friends that's what's funny is like there is a it's like i would knowing this world i'm like i want to keep that as far away yeah as possible you know but also i'm like god it would be so convenient if you had a phone you know like no especially like like being apart from them i would love like now i have to like can we facetime i have to go through their mom and you know if we're in a fight they're not well you know it's just a whole process if i could just text her directly talk to keegan directly it would be a lot easier but that also then opens

the door of like you know there's still seven and five yeah you can't be walking around with a phone when you're in first grade it's crazy but what's crazy to me is like she could she would lose it and she would be a silly like first grader but like she is sophisticated enough with technology and able to read and write enough that like if she had her own phone i could just be like hey shay it's dad and she'd be like what's up dad like we can just talk that would be nice which is great like at first grade no that is crazy it is so like it's just everything is starting so much earlier i don't know where it ends up like at what it's got to stop at some point you hope they can write like seriously when you try to write now, it's so weird.

I've always had bad handwriting. Chicken Scratch doesn't even begin to describe it though. If I have to write anything like longer than just like I'm filling out a form. Yeah. If I'm writing a card to somebody or whatever, like I'm by the end of it. Yeah, I got cramped. My hand is cramped. I got to – we do – did you do Elf on the Shelf with your kids?

I did and it kind of came around when they were – Like past, yeah. So we do that and then for whatever ridiculous reason, not only do we institute that the elf is somewhere else every day, but the elf writes a letter every day. No way. And so I'm – like every Christmas season, writing like a full letter, trying to pretend to be an elf. By the end of it, it's like – I bet it is hysterical. Yeah.

Do you ever publish it? Like take a picture? You know what? I should do that. You should because that would be awesome. That's a great idea. Next Christmas I will do that. You run out of material by the – you do it from December 1st on.

It's like I've done all the Christmas jokes. I've done all the puns. I got nothing left. What are you going to do when your kids have that whatever this AI thing where they write their papers for them? I mean by the time they're doing that, like that will be like perfected I would imagine. I don't know. I really don't know. Because part of me thinks it's like you really are not going to be as sharp and smart and know how to –

Thinking for yourself. Yeah, know how to solve a problem or go find for me it was like Wikipedia was like the cheat sheet but even like alright I gotta learn about this topic even going on the computer

finding that reading that still at least there's some steps of problem solving and thinking this is just like but I don't know. I'm sure what every generation said that about like the calculator versus doing math. Like everybody has always been like – the kids aren't going to be able to think for themselves. I'm sure they said that about just computers in general. Do they even have the three-decimal system anymore?

Seriously. Like do you go to a library and have to – I'm trying to think. I went to the library recently with the kids and I think it was more alphabetical by author but I'm sure there had to be some the numbers at the bottom I'm sure there's kids right now Pabs, you know what the Dewey Decimal System is?

No They're like my litmus test for a lot of stuff and a lot of times I'm like fuck they don't know anything but they'll say stuff to me that I don't know. I know. That's the one thing I've learned at Barstool and this company is – we are the worst at it is like old people being stunned that young people don't know shit from their generation and vice versa. Yeah.

It's like that's how it works, guys. Yeah. I do believe – But I know a lot about my parents' generation. I don't know why. I think maybe because I just we didn't have cell phones and stuff so we just grew up listening to all their things. I don't know.

I wonder because I'm like I think for my generation I think so much stuff happened like because the internet and computers and all that, that revolution happened like right as my group was growing up. It's very weird for us to feel old because we were so cutting edge. I get that.

Like it was – I think if you grew up – if you didn't grow up in the middle of like some sort of revolution of technology, you're very similar. You're still – you're very similar you're still you're more similar to the your parents before you you know what i mean uh-huh because it was like which would have been every generation except for yours that's what i mean i mean like like i learned on dos on a disc operating system yeah but that was before they came out with like windows right and so when by the time we got there like we knew so much more and everything was like so fast and it was like we are very, very different from the past generation I feel like. So for the longest time, we like knew all this new shit and even like music was – we grew up with like rap music becoming a genre. We grew up with the internet becoming a thing.

All these things that were so new and cutting edge and now they're – those are old enough that we're old. You know what I mean? Yes. OK. So would you rather be – so like my grandparents' generation, so if you were born like in 1900. Yeah. Think about what – so the TV. Yeah.

So that's another one. Right. I mean they went – is that the only generation that's had that many – like the TV, the airplane. I mean the phone. If you were born in like 1900 and you lived like 100 years, 80 years, I mean you've seen – your life went from like horse and buggy to artificial intelligence. That's crazy. So I don't know if any other generation will go through that. That would be wild. No, because – well, it's just – but I don't know.

That's always – it was like famous last words to say like – it will never be through that. That would be wild. No, because, well, it's just, but I don't know. That's always, it was like famous last words to say, like, well, it'll never be like that. Maybe from 2000 to 2100 we'll be like just as crazy. I don't know. It could be. I'm like, I don't know how much, how much further can we go.

Like the Jetsons? Yeah, I don't know. Some crazy shit like that. So do you think when you, so even if you don't consume mean girls or whatever, like when you think of Jordan and Alex, are you like, oh, these crazy kids don't know what they're talking about? Or are you like – I think it is interesting to listen to what they're talking about because sometimes I do think, oh, my God, they don't know what they're talking about. But then I think them talking about it, a lot of people relate to it.

Well, they're very smart about those topics and the way they present their conversations. Yes, and I think that sometimes they say things where they don't hear themselves say them. And then, so I'll say something to Alex, and she'll be like, I didn't even say that. And I'll play it back, and I'll go, yeah, you did. And you have to be careful what you say yeah because you're affecting a lot of people but i don't know that people think about that now like it's kind of like well you're on your own if you're going to take it that way you take it that way yeah well i think if if you are in this world like it's it's for entertainment yeah sometimes it's exaggerating sometimes we're

just straight up starting the pot and being ridiculous. But a lot of times it's true and it's like – I don't know. I kind of made a – I wish with my marriage and in some other instances, I said to people like this is how it's going to be, man. I don't know. Like take it or leave it. Like I'm going to be like a public figure. I got a big mouth. I talk about my life a lot. I don't know.

Well, I think you're a very – you're a cool mom. Oh, thank you. You're a cool mom. I want to my life a lot. I don't know. Well, I think you're a very you're a cool mom. Oh, thank you. I want to be a cool mom. You want to be a cool mom? I want to be a cooler grandma. I'm going to like spoil the shit out of my kids. Oh my god, I can't even imagine. Yeah, I mean

my kids, my mom is like it's like a problem with my mom. They show up and they're like, where's my present? You don't get a present every single time you walk through the door okay kids but let's wait for dad to leave you know what i do find interesting about alex and jordan um when they if they say something that i think is absolutely crazy we have them on the show they're like the only women i know in my life that will be like huh i didn't think about it that way you're right like i was wrong yeah i was like holy fucking shit yeah you just say that like because i'm ready to like keep like arguing i'm like and

another oh wait what so you know sometimes maybe they do say some crazy shit but then when they hear another perspective and maybe i'm wrong wrong sometimes, but they just listen and actually think like, oh, well, I never thought about it from that perspective. Yes. Which men or women, young or old, I think we need a lot more of that in this world. We do need a lot more of that. Because there's so many people who just refuse. And Alex is always thinking about that, and I think Jordan seems like she is too. Yeah.

Alex has this – so she was on that reality TV show for a while, right? Well, she worked for The Decorator. Right. Yeah. And so she was like on camera. What was that? So it's not like totally brand new, the idea of her being like – No, but that was kind of different because it was really –

Frequently like just pop up? No, it was like – I mean they would come and film that for – just didn't seem to bother and he was just kind of like her job and that's kind of what she was doing like it didn't she didn't change anything and but the thing is she has really thick skin so yeah they would do things like to make her look silly or whatever she didn't give a shit right and it doesn't she's very good about that yeah and she also has like you could kind of beat up on her a little bit and she'd be like well ha ha you know did you instill that in her like where do you think she gets that from because she does she like she finds herself in a lot of controversy and like and i i talked to her in the beginning kind of being like hey you know like don't take it to heart and if you ever like

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I mean, she won. Yeah, the trainer was incredible. Yeah. And I think it was more mental than anything. Totally. Yeah. Well, rough and rowdy is like 99% mental because even if you do – whatever training you do, as soon as the match begins, everybody is just like swinging and they forget about it. And so it's much more about like not being afraid and all that.

I mean that was crazy. No, I was really worried about that girl. I'm pretty sure I told her to her face afterwards. I was like, this is going to be some West Virginia badass broad who's just going to whoop on you. And it was not even close. No, she was kind of scaring the girls

in the back, too. Alex's friends were like, and even Michael, my son, he goes, oh my gosh. Were you guys all there? Uh-huh. he came from the back and he was like oh shit this is not going to be good that was mean were you like was there a thought of you like what happens if she's just getting like pounded on oh yeah like i have no i could never i cannot imagine shay like me watching shay box i'd be like no i felt like i was gonna throw up yeah i was glad michael and joe were there and both of them because you know like joe I felt like I was going to throw up. I was glad Michael and Joe were there. And both of them, because Joe wouldn't... I'd have to have Michael say something to me

to make me feel better. Yeah, were they nervous as well? Was Joe like... No, they were nervous, but Joe was pretty... I think after he talked to Leo a lot, he felt pretty good. And he wouldn't watch a couple of times. I only watched

once when she was practicing. What a whirlwind a lot. He felt pretty good. And he didn't watch it a couple of times. I only watched once when she was practicing. What a whirlwind for your family in general. Yeah. I mean, you guys, so your Graham's family owned the Thunder.

And your, and Joe, what does Joe do? He just does investing things now. Kind of retired. But he did do oilfield trucking. He had a trucking company. Right, right. So, I mean, you guys have had both families, like wildlife, less life, crazy things.

But then to have like – I don't care. Like money, family, where you're from, what you do. Barstool is like – A whole other world, yeah. A lot of people have said to me things like, oh, I've come from XYZ, I can handle this. And I'm like, that's not going to prepare you one bit for this shit. So you can be running an NBA team and be like,

what is this shit over here? Nobody gets that either. Nobody understands that. I mean it is – it doesn't matter what your resume is, what your bank account is, who you know, what you did. Like we do not care. No, you just have to be able to take it and go with it. What do you think of Graham? You like Graham?

Oh, I love Graham. He's awesome. He's great. I want to get Graham on the show so bad. Have you asked him? I've never talked to him. I've never like directly talked to him. I've never directly talked to him. I've talked to Alex.

I wanted to talk to her first. I think it would be weird to go ask somebody's, a co-worker's spouse to come on the show without talking to them. Oh, she wouldn't care? Yeah, so I cleared that with her. She was like, yeah, yeah, we'll set that up. And then we never did.

You just need to text Graham directly. Alex isn't really good about that. Okay. Because I would love to talk to him. Like sometimes we'd text Graham to tell Alex to do something. Yeah. Because I got to get inside his brain. Oh, he's such a joy to talk to. Yeah.

He's very articulate and he's funny and he's kind. Yeah. It seems like he's a very good dude. Yeah. And Lord knows he puts up with a lot, not only with her, but also just like this world. That's a weird one. I think a lot of girls, a lot of girlfriends and wives

have gone through the, my husband or boyfriend started working for Barstool and that's a whirlwind. Like there's going to be a lot of attention and there's going to be girls and there's going to be parties and there's going to be, you know,

bad days and good days and stoolies find out who where you live weird shit you know and a lot of in the very beginning it was all guys you know so it was always like the the females in the relationship having to deal with that but to see the other side of it where it's like no there's been times like that that i've texted graham and said this is creepy and kind of worries me and if you're going to be gone you know that kind of thing yeah he's on top of that yeah because i mean if it's when you're a guy of worries me, and if you're going to be gone, you know, that kind of thing. Yeah. And he's on top of that. Yeah.

Because, I mean, when you're a guy and, like, all of a sudden your girl is very famous and people know and it's just – that's a whole – And she doesn't – because she doesn't, like – we keep giving mace and things like that. That's not – like, I'll be carrying mace or Graham will be carrying mace or anybody. But Alex is like, what? You know, like that kind of thing. Well, she's a boxer. So she doesn't need that.

She doesn't need that. Well, I think what you're doing is great. I think you're very good at it too. And I think it's very impressive. Thank you. That's sweet. And even, you know, without Alex, like I think you can stand on your own too. So keep doing your thing.

I'm going to try. I'm going to keep trying. Yeah. No, totally. And I think there's a lot of, I mean, we now know the demographic goes male female young old parents non-parent like every which way so there really is like a market for everything really so you know keep doing your thing we love it i gotta keep trying yeah yeah i mean you're they're light years ahead of like other people in your position if we tried to get them to do it. So even if you feel like you're on an island or it takes longer to do it, you're still so much further ahead, I think, than you realize.

I hope. Am I going to wake up and go, I am? You know what? I don't think so because I'm still, to this day, like you just – I think you said something earlier about like there's no end to it you just kind of keep doing it you know because there's always somebody like else who's it's like oh i want to have a podcast that's this big and then you get there you're like all right well now i want to have a podcast that's that as big as that guy and the girl and so you just like keep going forever and it feels a little bit like uh overwhelming yeah but also you know if you were to like look back on where you started to where you are

now, you'd be like, holy shit, you know? So. Hopefully. I'm not very good at that. I'm not either. But a lot of people, I'm trying to like remember that. Like, you know, they recognize in the moment that what you're doing is pretty. How far you've come.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because you have. That's a good thing to do, I guess. I mean, again, think about it. You were like probably at home playing a round of golf feeling like this is so boring. And now you're flying back and forth to New York and out on the town and doing cool stuff.

I need to be having more fun. Okay. Okay. Let's – a late New Year's resolution for more fun. What do you want to do, Kim? You could just snap your fingers and like have more fun in what way go out more yeah i'd probably go out more and i'd probably make my friends come up when i'm here more and i'd probably travel why don't you next time you come grab them that you have to come with

me you know because all my friends are kind of in this weird spot like like i am like they're traveling a lot too and they're kind of so all our schedules are really it's hard to yeah link up yeah harder when the kids were young it's really weird yeah plan it in advance then be like Like they're traveling a lot too. And they're kind of, so all our schedules are really. It's hard to link up. Yeah. Harder when the kids were young. It's really weird. Yeah. Plan it in advance then.

Be like my, my, you know, May trip. Yeah. I'm kind of stuck at that part. Yeah. I'm not good at that either. I'm a last minute person. Totally. And I don't know why. But I would love to see content Kim and the girls take New York.

Yeah. We used to do Vegas every year. i feel like you probably have a bunch of hot friends i do have a lot i feel like i feel like your crew is like the hot chicks i do have a lot of really good looking friends i do but you know what i think texas and oklahoma has a lot of pretty girls i believe that i feel i have this vision of you and the girls, walking into, like, a banquet or the country club or some sort of party, just hot as shit. Yeah, I have some cute friends. Yeah, that's a yes. The modeling world was, so you did that from, like, 18 to 20?

Not very long. Yeah, 22. That was a different world. So I came to New York first. Right. And then I had a friend that was here. Wait, so you were in Oklahoma as a kid too or no? Yeah.

Yeah. So got discovered in Oklahoma or came to New York to get discovered? There was a lady that I worked for in Oklahoma that brought us here. Got it. A couple of us. And then I went to Paris pretty quick. How old were you for Paris? I don't know.

I'm trying to think. I mean, I was probably 19. That's like the big leagues, right? Yeah, it was then. But also mean, like Paris modeling is like, that's like the big leagues, right? That's like. Yeah, it was then. But also there was only like three or four agencies. And it was like, this one, they did more drugs. This one, it was more like more sex.

It was really like that. Right. So there was a girl that came from LA that was there at the same time. And her mom was there with her, which I was glad because I kind of, that helped me a little bit. Yeah. So you were on your own? I was on my own, yeah. That's crazy.

Like 19 years old in Paris just trying to figure out the modeling world. But I mean it was fun but it was also like I think I had too strong of an attitude probably. Like I'd be more like I'm not going to play that game a little bit. But at the same time maybe that would have been good. don't know well i don't know yeah i mean it's like but no i play by the rules and you probably get ahead or whatever but like you got to sell your soul to do it a little bit a lot of that shit that you don't want to do and like i mean you're a gorgeous woman and at 18 it must have been like yeah you're the next you're a gorgeous woman. And at 18, it must have been like, yeah, you're the next. They're all gorgeous.

But like, what do you do? I can't imagine that as like, what was your, were your parents like, you know, back then we didn't have cell phones and shit. Right. So they were kind of like, yeah, go have fun. I mean, right. They never knew where I was before anyway, because they never knew. You just kind of like check in.

But I'm just thinking in general of like like it's a industry that is designed around people like gawking at your daughter you know what i mean like a lot of i don't think they knew that much about it because it'd be like there was no internet right so it's just like oh you're gonna take pictures and that's it magazine thing yeah did you party a lot no no i didn't party a lot what's the definition of a lot i mean i didn't party when i modeled there in paris at all no i mean like i would drink a little bit, I didn't party a lot. What's the definition of a lot? I mean, I didn't party when I modeled there in Paris at all. No, I mean, I would drink a little bit, but I didn't party. Were you getting into exclusive clubs and shit like that, though? Yeah, some.

But I mean, I still was not a big partier. I think I partied. I'm the youngest of three girls, so my partying was done by the time I was that age. Got it. I'm pretty sure. The only thing I did was smoke. Okay. Was there any, like, did you leave it because of motherhood? Or were you like, I'm just done with this industry.

You got a different job. But I did get sick when I was there. Really? And came home. That's why I had to take thyroid medicine ever since then. So I had like, I think it was probably like animals in the restaurant. I mean, I don't know what it was. I was really sick.

Did that like derail the career a little bit? Yeah, because when I came home, it took me a long time to get better over that. Were you like thinking like I'm going to be cover model, like billboards in New York type shit? Or were you just like I'm just doing this for – No, I don't know why. I mean I wasn't thinking that. I was thinking like magazines and things would be good but it was just

what was your what did you feel was like your peak as a model was it like a magazine or an appearance or something or like wow

yeah it's cool well I mean you were super hot then you're super hot now oh you're sweet one of the hottest chicks at Barstool one of the hottest chicks yeah

alright thank you so Content Kim is the handle everyone can follow you at yes One of the hottest chicks at Barstool. One of the hottest chicks, yeah. All right. Thank you. So content, Kim, is the handle everyone can follow you at? Yes. Content with a K. And then those cookies. Oh, my God. You didn't eat any more of them, though.

I did. I did. Also, I'm not trying to be fat, Kim. So stop trying to fatten me up. Not everyone's as hot as you, all right? Oh, yeah. All right. Thank you, Kim.

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