KFC Radio - Liz Miele & Brent Terhune Interviews, We Might Be Cancelled, The Pull Tab Couple

Episode Date: July 14, 2020

Subscribe, rate, and leave a review! -Is the Wayfair Conspiracy Legit? -Will Smith and Jada Pinkett Smith -Quick "My Therapist Said" -Did 50 Cent really text Will Smith? -Why is Cake trending? -We may have just self cancelled -Top 5 Tuesday: Things People love that we hate -Voicemails: The Pull Tab Couple Saga (01:39:16) Comedian Liz Miele joins the show. We discuss her new special "Self Help Me", comedy bombs vs life bombs, New York Comedy, and much more. Catch her latest special here: https://youtu.be/kD9bm1EFSpI (02:16:08) KFC sits down with political satirist Brent Terhune to discuss his wildly popular rant videos, his background in stand up comedy, and much more. Let us know what you think on Twitter: @kfcradio @kfcbarstool @feitsbarstool @LizMiele @BrentTerhune Subscribe to our youtube for daily clips and full episodes: https://www.youtube.com/user/KFCradioYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/kfcr

Hey, KFC Radio listeners, you can find every episode of KFC Radio on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. We might lose our podcast. We thought you were in trouble two weeks ago. I know. I thought the cancel was coming. Oh, it's coming. It's another edition of KFC Radio on the Barstool Sports Network. We got a couple interviews for you today. We got Liz Mealy and Brent Terhune, a couple very funny comedians.

We'll be doing our top fives, of course, voicemails. But first, we got to talk about a couple of things that swept through the Internet, took the Internet by storm this weekend. And we'll start off with, I mean, you know me. I feel like we're opposites in this regard. I'm the conspiracy theory guy. You are anti-conspiracy theory. I am anti-conspiracy theory. 100%, very largely anti-conspiracy theory i am anti-conspiracy theory uh 100 very

largely anti-conspiracy theory but definitely part of that is just laziness which is like if i don't believe it then it doesn't then you're out you don't want to do like you don't want to take the time to know it and learn and there is 100 100 but a lot of me just doesn't believe in them just because i just i just don't believe in them just because I just don't believe in people keeping secrets. I just don't think that's a thing that happens. But I also think that part of it is your, like you always say that you believe people are inherently good. I do.

And I disagree. Which is so weird. And I also want to prove it in that, like, I'm proven wrong constantly. It's funny that you inherently people are like i'm not one of those people who are just like like they're just just give them a chance i know they're not right because i'm constantly reminded that they're not like show me the receipts and it's like boom but still i'm like i think they're good i think yeah i feel like that's a um a hope that manifests itself like i think you want that to be the case. And so you, it's like believing in Santa Claus.

You're just going to say it and believe it. But I think deep down you know it's not really. But I also like, again, it's just easier. To say they're good. It's easier for me to live my life. It's not that you're an optimist or a pessimist.

It's not that you're a skeptic or a believer. It's just you're lazy. So you tell me something and it's like i either have to use my brain to like connect all these dots or i can just be like but at the same time like most of your interactions every day are good true like you'll have one interaction that stands out that sucked but that was the one but like largely everyone you meet every day but that's a bit narcissistic for you to believe that your life experience is what dictates the rest of the world. Right. So, oh, if you're looking for narcissism, come this way.

Found the right show. But, like, yeah. Quite literally. Quite literally, our lives is just talking about our lives. It's not like we're bragging, but it's just like, hey, you want to talk to me about me for hours and hours and hours all the time? How much time you got this week?

I got to talk about me real quick. But the, but I mean, just like every day again, and I'm absolutely speaking just for myself, but I think it's pretty true for everybody. I think if you look at the world, as bad as it is, because there's a lot of bad shit going on, if the majority of people were majority bad inherently, I mean, the world would be in chaos. Absolute chaos.

It's like most people don't like their boss, their coworkers, strangers, but they also don't just their boss, their coworkers, strangers, but they also like, don't just like punch them in the face. But I also think you like, I think most people like, like their coworkers. I think you have issues with your boss and a standard boss employee relationship, but they're for the most part, I think it's pretty fucking good. But you know what I mean? That like, even the people you don't get along with, most humans have the line like all right i don't like him but

i'm not gonna just like scream at him i'm not gonna physically fight him i'm not gonna i'll just like internalize that and be like like i always joke about the uh stop signs and stop lights like there's a murderer out there who was like still like i gotta follow these rules right right so for the most part even as you can point out all the bad things i think if the world was truly fucked there would be a lot more bad going on. Yes. But like every day, someone doesn't push you in front of a car.

Right. That's pretty good. Yeah. It's like we, like someone, people just walk by you without assaulting you. People have pushed a lot of people in front of trains. That has happened,

but it could happen like every second of every day, given the New York city subway. And it doesn't. Yeah. But that also, which we're setting the bar pretty low. Yeah. No,

non-murder is like, you're a good person, but still like, that's what, I mean, I can get on board with that. It's a low bar, but it's a,

the bar is still there. People don't kill me every day. I just don't like, we need a consistent bar. You know what I mean? It's like, there should be the no murder for everybody. Like I'm,

I'm a good guy. I don't murder people. Let's give me that. Yeah. But I haven't, I was a kid i um i lean towards conspiracy theories right because i think it's just naive to believe that i do the secrets thing i'm with you that always throws me for a loop i'm like how nobody keeps secrets so how do we keep the secret i don't have an explanation for that but i do believe at least these conspiracy theories where you're talking about billionaires and the elite and the companies and the power and the

politics i think those people all all are like bad you think like everyone powerful i think that they all have i've been like power what was it absolute power crops absolutely yeah so like yes a certain level of wealth and power. I do believe that you have like, I'm not saying you're all murderers, but I'm saying you've like stepped on someone to get where you're at. You have fucked somebody over, you've brushed things under the rug. And so,

you know, some people do that in, in, in like, Hey, I, you know, I cut this guy out of the puzzle.

Like when we did a IPO or some shit and some people are like, I fucking murdered this person. You know, there's varying degrees of it. Um, but I, I'll listen varying degrees of it. But I, I'll listen to any of it. Cause I do believe that when you, when you talk about that level of money and cause I just always look at like,

just like regular everyday life, just even like things that have gone on at a barstool, not that anybody's murderer here, but it's like, you see where you got to get to what you got to do to get to certain levels of like business and success. And if you're talking about like, forget about your company or your experience talking about presidents and fucking heads of state and royalty and stuff i mean those people probably presidents in particular like you have

to be a sociopath have to have to that's what like guys like obama scare me the most right because he seems like pretty normal you know at least like donald trump's like he's a piece of shit who's always been a piece of shit and he's applying it to television and money and now politics obama's just kind of like i don't like a little one i like to play golf yeah you know you probably murdered somebody like you might be the shadiest of all right but the latest conspiracy theory i also just enjoy i just love like it's like it's like a movie like when the world becomes a movie to me uh the wayfair conspiracy theory is a fun one but let me edit that but like it's it's uh you know intriguing one but i can't believe that this is the one that everybody is universally like it's true it's real because i think it's the most far-fetched one of all i i i think so sell me on

it because i think it's zero percent chance it's real So Wayfair has Wayfair is like an online furniture retailer And they have cabinets Oh I know what Wayfair is Because my girlfriend used to work there And I used to get shit for free all the time No kids Blood money bro

So they were selling cabinets and furniture And even pillows For like $10,000 $13,000 $10,000, $13,000, $15,000, which is weird, but Wayfair is like a third-party retailer sometimes. So I read that some people will find out if an item is sold out. They just fucking jack the price up. It's like selling tickets.

So I was like, all right, maybe that explains it. Those same cabinets are listed online with a product description using weird names that also correlate to missing children. So it'll be like the Annabelle cabinets. And Annabelle Wilson is a missing teen. But like Annabelle is just... Right?

That's a pretty normal name. Like Samia and Yaritza. And there was one that was like... One was like a last name. It was like a foreign last name. You're going to last names. I need to have because like the pillow D Z ditch. I mean, that's a ridiculous name.

And then like first name relates to a well, that's that is the flip side is that there are 800,000 missing kids per year. By the way, that's fucking crazy. Yeah. So that like any name could possibly be pulled out of a hat. But my thing is, why are you naming your cabinets after names? That's weird. I don't know if that's that weird. You think so? I mean, what else would you

name it after? I don't know. Fucking just like white cabinet, wood cabinet. Why does it have to be a name? No, things are named. With names? Yeah. I don't think that's it. What else is named with a name? I don't know.

You're putting me on the spot. I don't know. But I don't think it's that. I've never seen just like the Jonathan cabinets. I've never seen like the Sarah cabinets. My friend has a tattoo of a lamp, and it's because it's called the Graham lamp. And his name's Graham. All right, you win.

These are the arguments again. It's not that weird, but what I find to be weird, and so the idea is that Also, the lamp is named after him. Pretty cool. He's the Graham? His uncle invented it. He invented a bunch of things.

He named them all after people in his family. Maybe that's what's going on. Maybe these fucking cabinet workers have a uritza in their family and they made it uh wayfarers is saying like like it's coincidence and that the the pricing at first they said the prices are like normal they said these are industrial grade shelves and cabinets that are worth thirteen13,000. And then they changed the names and they reduced the prices. So that's weird. It's like if it was a glitch, if they were just like, I don't know why those cabinets are $13,000.

They should be 150. I'd be like, all right. But they said it was one thing. They like defended it. And then they went and changed all the listings. They took the names out and changed the prices. I mean, it's weird. Don't get me wrong. If all this is true, it's definitely weird. And then they went and changed all the listings. They took the names out and changed the prices. I mean, it's weird.

Don't get me wrong. If all this is true, it's definitely weird. I don't know how to explain it. But think of how many people it has to go through. Correct. And none of those people would say we're selling children. Right. More importantly, I mean, if you had a pedophile ring, it's now ruined.

Because two people on Twitter, right. Tweeted it out. Like you just wouldn't build a, wasn't there someone who said like when you like go to buy something, like the name is already filled out. Okay. Let me finish the conspiracy theory. Sorry.

If you, if you take the skew, which is like the product listing number and you search for it in a Russian search engine, it churns out pictures of children. I don't know. That's weird. I don't know if that means like, you know,

you can search the SKU and buy these children, but all I know is that pictures of little kids in bathing suits pop up. Again, all this, by the way, allegedly, because I just like, I see the screenshot and I'm like, okay. I hear the story. I'm like, okay. I didn't like vet this for myself. You know, like one thing,

they had a picture of Naya Riveraa and they showed naya vera that the girl disappeared yeah they had um because they're thinking like her kids involved this is like the conspiracy oh no no crazy shit listen listen let's how stupid this gets like the square footage of the lake is like 1.971 kilometers and then they showed a wayfair listing where the price of the shelves was nineteen thousand seven hundred and eighty dollars and it's just it's just made up it was like someone just took the time to photoshop these pictures i mean that doesn't make any square footage of the lake her birthday her name like all of it somehow correlates to allegedly a wayfair thing and it was just proven to be like they Photoshopped all those numbers and names. But the SKU thing in Russian, in Russian search engines, turn up kids.

There was another thing. It was a screen recording of this woman who bought. I don't know if I believe that. The screen recording? The SKU thing. Yeah. I was like, I don't have a Russian fucking search engine. I don't know.

I don't think that one's real. So this one, I watched the screen recording, which even that I'm skeptical of because I'm like, I don't know. I don't think that one's real. So this one, I watched the screen recording, which even that I'm skeptical of, because I'm like, I don't know, you can fake these things, I'm not sure how. But she presses purchase, and when she goes to check out the name, for like your name,

when you're filling out your name and address and your billing address and stuff, the name says like Precious Harris, which is the first and last name of a missing child. So I guess the idea, but this is where i think this is where we lose you know i lose it is you think that this is you buying precious harris like all you got to do is like click and then you get to buy you know when you're talking about

pedophile rings and human trafficking it's like taken it's like seedy backroom private sultans and billionaires it can't just be like like what if i had private sultans and billionaires. It can't just be like – like what if I had a bunch of money and I really like those cabinets? And I was like, I don't know. It's expensive, but I'll buy them. Now all of a sudden I'm a human trafficker and you've got to send the kid to me or whatever? I mean – Also $10,000 for a child is really –

Way low. That's really under – So my two main reasons why Wayfair is not a human trafficking ring. One, you hide these things, and I don't want to hear about hiding in plain sight. This is way too much in plain sight where, like I said, the whole operation is ruined because somebody on Twitter decided to tweet about it.

And you don't want just random people stumbling upon it. And two, a kidney is like $50,000. So two kidneys, a liver, you've got to build a human. I mean, it's going to be like a million dollars. Buying a liver you gotta build a human i mean it's gonna be like a million dollars buying a human for ten thousand dollars is crazy way low i mean way low on the black market again like all like someone had to put in this fucking code for the website so i wanted to tell

them to do it they're like they're like 50 people who have like this gets through line before it becomes on wafer's website yeah and one of them isn't a pedophile right one of them isn't is gonna be like yeah that's not okay we're not doing like i think if you wanted to tell me this was a money laundering operation that makes more sense like buy a thirteen thousand dollar uh fucking shelf and that's you know and they're really worth like a thousand dollars and the twelve thousand gets pocketed i don't know whatever um i'd believe that maybe like way before i believe like human trafficking i i i cannot explain this i don't know it is weird and their response was weird something is afoot i just don't think that it's a human trafficking ring being you utilizing the number one global retailer in the world.

Right. It's just – people do this on the dark web. People do this – I have a friend who works for Wayfair. She's not a pedophile. Well, I bought the Keegan's bed recently through Wayfair. So I got emails last night like, here are the – from Wayfair. Here are the kids' beds you ordered, like capitalized kids.

I was like, oh, no. I'm caught up in the ring. Like they're targeting me i made that video they don't like me they're they're using it against me i can't explain it but i am confident saying and and and but the number of people john who believe it who are like you are an idiot for not believing this like guys i just don't – I said, listen, coronavirus is a hoax and masks aren't real, but Wayfair is absolutely human trafficking. Like I think these people want to believe. I think that they like it.

It's kind of like a movie, life imitating art, fact fiction sort of thing. But how could you legitimately tell me you believe this? I mean how could it happen? I just don't understand how it happens. Now, I mean I haven't done it. Like it's crazy. I'm looking at a it happen? I just don't understand how it happens. Now, I mean, I haven't done it. Like, it's crazy. I'm looking at a $10,000 pillow right now. It's insane.

And it gets marked down to 99. I get it. No problem. It makes no sense. But I just don't think they're selling kids. Again, I'm always proven wrong. I'm naive. I'm an idiot.

I get all that. I just don't think they're selling children. Well, people are coming at me now because this went kind of viral, and so I'm getting a lot of mentions from people I don't follow. Hey, hey, you know. And the people are like, how could you be so, like, obtuse? How could you believe that there's not human trafficking going on? Like, no, no, no. There's human trafficking going on, a lot of it.

And I'm sure there are other conspiracies and other ways that people are trafficking said humans. I just don't think the Wayfair element is the case. I fully believe people are being kidnapped. Oh, I know so. Do you know how hard it is to take a kid on a plane? Have you flown the Shire Keegan? I have, but they were very young and their mom taking care of most of it. I remember someone was saying

recently like how much paperwork you have to have to fly with a child right because human trafficking is so prevalent right i mean yeah it makes sense if you were to just show up maybe with my kid like put him on a plane like keep him quiet and all of a sudden you drop a kid off like stewardesses have to like take like special classes on like how to identify human because like people just fly with signs and signals and shit yeah yeah i mean i believe all that again i just i think you would do it in a much more sneaky way than way yeah there's just easier ways to do it than fucking public this massively public now the flip side is like there's there's no easier way than doing it through wayfair they they sell and distribute and you got just click a couple keys and the next thing you got yourself a human. No! See, that's

that's I don't think that's easy. Yeah, I mean Cause you still have to have all those conversations about like, here's the website, here's the fucking. Someone's gotta be listing it and knowing. Here's the code It would be easier to be like Here, I'll sell you a kit. Yeah

I do, I get a kick out of the visual. Like, I'm thinking like, you get these cabinets show up, and there's just a kid inside. Imagine that. You thought you bought $13,000 cabinets and just get a child. What the fuck? I'll tell you what. Because, again, someone can accidentally do that. If that's what you're literally doing, someone can accidentally do it.

Which is the number one reason you can't just have this is that you'd have, like, non-criminals buying humans and being like, hey, I bought a human. Son of a bitch, another kid. Babe. I'll tell you what, man. I've ordered some things offline and been disappointed with it. I order a shirt off Instagram and the quality is not great. I ordered a toy for the kids and it required all this assembly. Didn't love it.

I want to talk about like buyer's remorse and buying a bad product. How about when a child shows up? You get a new fucking armoire, and Samir shows up. Son of a bitch! Son of a bitch! I don't even like the kids that I tried to intentionally produce. I got to take care of those motherfuckers. What about the ones I accidentally bought off of Wayfair?

Nick, can you play the video? i don't know if it's still um i think it might have been deleted but i feel like in that blog samia there's one of the girls who's allegedly missing i think was missing so it's not that far-fetched she made this video it's very funny press play on that bitch why are y'all sharing some shit who this nigga don't even know that if it's really true or not what are y'all talking about? Y'all all sound stupid talking about why am I mad? Because I'm not missing. Fuck out of here. Fuck.

Let me go get a picture of you, bitch, and say you missing and then put a little motherfucking cabinet next to it and have everybody share that shit. Let's see how you feel. Fuck out of here. I love it. It's just like...

All right, so I mean, I haven't seen that video. It's clearly just not true then. Well, she's one of, you know. Yeah. But also – That was the one I saw go viral for the starters. In the defense of the conspiracy theorists, it's like she was at one point missing and kidnapped.

It wasn't like totally fabricated. Right. She was like on a fucking poster. She was missing and kidnapped. I think that's even more real that she was missing kid at one point and she's not anymore well you know what happened somebody gave her a happy home by buying her a wayfarer somebody bought an armoire and now she lives in that house

I think that's I can't believe I'll put a picture of you next to the fucking cabinets I think that the existence of that video makes it like the fact that people are even still talking about it is crazy clearly the girl's not missing. People want to trash billionaires and corporations and the man and society,

and they will do any, I mean, this one, this materialized quick. Within like two hours, the world fucking totally believed Wayfair. Can you imagine working at Wayfair, by the way? There was also rumors, I think, that the CEO had stepped down. He just didn't. But like, there's someone who works, the CEO and the PR firm and the legal and the hr are probably like on a fucking sunday they get the phone call like we have to address the human trafficking rumors it's like what i would quit i actually would quit and that would probably make uh like that would stoke the fire and people

would be like wow it's true i'd be like i'm not quitting because i'm a pedophile like human traffic i just don't want to deal with this. Like, I signed up to do, like, PR and HR for a fucking online furniture retailer. I thought this was going to be a pretty easy gig. I'm not equipped to do, like, the dark corners of human trafficking, okay? So,

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I believe that Will Smith and Jada Pinkett are either the most fucked up and tragic story of a couple or a goddamn inspiration. Oh, I think the latter yeah yeah i think that i think it's crazy to do it on a fucking red table talk whatever the hell it's called yeah but like i think that they are a much more take out the scientology and the fame and the money because that's not relatable but everything else i think they are like the couple you should strive to be they they acknowledge that it's fucking crazy.

Marriage is fucking hard. They acknowledge that they both were horrible to each other. They both acknowledge kind of like a desire to, you know, not just be monogamous. And there was one part where Will Smith said like, how did he word it? He just said something like, it's very comforting and like powerful to know that you've got someone that's gonna ride with you absolutely no matter what and i know you know for better or worse is not a new concept but people say that and they don't really mean it you know to be like that doesn't mean i'm gonna let it slide it doesn't mean i'm not gonna address it that doesn't mean

i'm not gonna be hurt or angry or there's gonna be repercussions but ultimately i can guarantee you i promise you like not gonna dump, I'm not going to dump you. I'm not going to expose you. We're not going to trash each other. We're just going to be along for this fucked up ride. It's kind of like that's the only way marriage does work. I would agree with that. That should be the vows.

You shouldn't say for better or worse. You should have to stand there and be like, this is going to suck. It's going to be catastrophic. But when it goes down, we'll figure it out. I do. I think it's – I don't understand why they did it, first of all. Meaning what?

The open marriage? Or the talk? The talk. Yeah. I do not understand the reasoning behind it. Well, so for people who don't know the full story – Like, are there ads on the show? Yeah.

I mean, it's obviously a very popular show. I've heard of the Red Table Talk. I don't think it translates to white people very much. I haven't seen any Red Table Talks, but I know the Red Table is a big deal. I knew who did it. Chyna, right? Or one of the Kardashian people. The Kardashian person who got kicked out of the Kardashians.

Blac Chyna? Yeah. Blac Chyna. I think she did one. And I remember that being a big deal that day, but that's really all I've ever heard of the Red Table Talk. And now this one is obviously... And that's part of it too i wonder if they're like hey let's like get this red table thing off the ground even even higher but i knew i mean it's

very very popular yeah definitely i just haven't it hasn't crossed over into my world too much and i just be like i don't know is it interesting like your story like do you find like i i had no desire like i still i've heard of it obviously but i haven't gone to watch the clips like i watched the clips i'm not gonna watch the whole thing i find it interesting just because i went i have my you know opinions on marriage and i went through my own shit that i i'm very interested in how other people handle it at the end of the day it's not like anybody's business and all that kind of shit but i'm i like shit that's not my business i i know it's not my business i also don't have a celebrity is different like i wouldn't do that just for like regular people i don't i'm not gonna

sit there and like you know wonder about your relationship but it's will smith it's jada there's like a celebrity aspect to it there definitely is but even i'm like i mean you guys handle your own shit like i like your movies i like are you not watching it because you don't care or because you're like all right that's not my business like i'm interested but I'm not gonna I think I'm not interested because it's not my business okay so like it's not like you're saying like I want to watch that but I'm not going to because right I'm not doing that

it's not that I just think that like I'm like I don't know that's fucking yeah now I'm like I ultimately I'm not I don't care what happens to Will and Jada I don't I'm not invested like that but I am invested in the idea of like Will Society's views on marriage being – will that change soon? I mean the way this story went, this was like 2014? Four and a half years ago.

They had like an open marriage situation. She ended up hooking up with this guy August something who was an R&B singer. He was young at the time he was like barely 20 um 27 now right so all right so he's like 24 25 whatever it was um and uh and will smith at first denied that he like so this guy the story was that they had an open marriage will like gave the blessing they hooked up and now it came out will smith at first denied that that there was ever an affair he denied that he ever uh issued like the blessing and now eventually he was like yeah it's all true right um shout out to jada with this entanglement by the way like

yeah that's that's some that's some semantics we're playing like and then i got entangled with august and you can see will smith like you you know, some of those screenshots, that one. I mean, he looks like a sad guy. Now, is he, though? I don't know. The whole time he was laughing. But that looks like a guy who has hurt behind his eyes. Yeah, but, I mean, he's sad.

He's sad right now, for sure. But, like, I don't think it means he's – he's sad in that picture. That doesn't mean, like, he's always sad. Like, people grab, like, those one screenshots and they're like, this is what this meant. Like, no, in that that moment he was definitely upset i'm sure he doesn't love to think about you know this this young guy who's like banging out his wife at the time i also think it's it's a little bit suspect the way he this is very much like what we would do like he's a funny guy he's got comedy in him and he says you know uh we ride together. We died together. Bad marriage for life.

Like, you know, he's joking, but he's like, yeah, our marriage fucking stinks. This is not good. This is bad. But I just feel like it's not, I mean, especially as we go on and technology gets better and people are connected to more people and, you know, some of the ideals of religion and like old school tradition go away it just it does not feel like a recipe for i mean people are selfish people are not we are not a people who put others first and and in marriage that's like the number one thing you do and i think it's much more realistic that people eventually relax those rules and change kind of how marriage goes as opposed to just continuing to –

Like in your lifetime? I don't think it will ever happen. I think marriage – I think that we're already changing. I think that the first step is people just not getting married. And I think that my generation – I think I was one of like the last of people to be like, I'm like 30. I'm in a relationship. Girl is good.

Let's make this legal and official forever. I think that the next generation of people are much more inclined to be like, I don't have to do this, and I don't want to sign up. I bet like 80% of people will still get married. I bet the number is crazy high. I think another generation,

it'll be considerably lower. It'll still be high. Why? What's the change? Why are people not gonna get married because it's like i think that everywhere you look is just like divorce and misery and like and not but isn't that isn't part of that like it's not gonna be me yeah and i i think that uh that's what i mean i feel like the the that will change i think that people are realizing like it's not you it's the idea of marriage. It's like the rules of marriage. It happens to absolutely everybody

that there's no correlation other than like the institution itself. I'm a big advocate or not advocate but a big big sayer of that things things will always change that you will always like like i i evolving or evolving i've made the joke about it like five times now it's

clear what i actually think about it's like i think i will be on the wrong side of history as a meat eater i think eventually everyone will be a vegetarian right and i but i just that that's when i don't because people just need companionship. Right. So that's where I think like that will still exist. I think people will stop like legally signing over everything they own and all that kind of shit. Okay. I think that the first step – So you think prenups will be more popular? Yeah, or like that marriage doesn't necessarily imply everything like economic and and property and all that shit anymore like it

almost either everybody gets a prenup or what you sign now is not like property and money and salary and all that kind of shit because that's what's crazy to me that i think that's the first thing that i think they should change because you're right people need companionship i think as inherently like two things are inherent that i think kind of clash it's like one i think it's a little unnatural to be monogamous i think that there's a reason why a lot of people struggle with it it's just like not what we're like programmed to do but two everybody is also lonely and wants like that person at night so those two things kind of like you know clash in a way but i think the first thing you can do

is like you can get married and not like lose you know your business or if things go wrong you don't have to lose your house and your business and this and that i don't know what like the middle ground is there but i i just think it's crazy that it's like our most emotional decision where you're basically blinded by either love or lust or whatever is also the one that like you sign away your literal tangible black and white dollars and cents existence those two things should not be connected that's crazy to me you can be in love but i feel like owning but but putting that like what does that have to do with uh you know what stocks i own or whatever you know but and then i think it would be a lot easier to to say like let's get married for life if you didn't like implicate all those

other things makes sense i'm with you yeah yeah i mean i know i'm like i i thought you meant like the institution like yeah if the the legality surrounding marriage and what you're signing over changes that makes more sense rather than just being like, people aren't going to get married anymore. I just think, I mean, people are always going to get married, but I do think it's going to go down. I think that the divorce rate will go down because the marriage rate will go down.

I just don't think there will be as many people who feel the need to do it. I mean, I'm one of those. I don't have like a... I'm also not anti-marriage. I'm just like, I'm not like, I got to get married kind of deal. If I'm pressed to get married, I would get married.

If not, then I wouldn't. It gets weird when you – with the family, with kids where it's like if we sign up and we have kids and then you want to break up and now you're a single mom or a single dad. Like that can like know that's fucked but um but if it's like you know we're good we're gonna be together anyway like we just don't need to you know throw this like complicated uh paperwork and legality in the mix or whatever i think it would be it's almost like priests you know it's like if you relax some of those rules people might be priests yeah yeah you know it's like like maybe marriage would be better if it wasn't so, and I mean, obviously, this is all taken with an enormous grain of salt

coming from a guy who's gotten divorced and shit. But the way they do it sounds, it's like preaching abstinence versus condoms. You know, it's like, we know this is going to happen. It's like Will Smith and them are like, we know this is going to be fucked up, but we'll like get through it because of X, Y, Z. And I think that's always the,

well, that always has been the idea behind marriage. Like I said, for better or worse, you know, but it's just not, if you accept that things are going to happen. Okay.

So we're going to do a quick little, my therapist said thing. Um, yeah, I've been having like panic attacks every single night. Like, like, yeah,

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No, no, no. I honestly forget why this story started. But whatever. I'll finish it anyway. Oh, yes. Yeah. Okay. So they're like, yeah, this sucks. Whatever.

But what was going to happen? I was like, so how do I just stop having these? And she's like, you just got to go to bed every night and go, I'm probably going to wake up with a panic attack tonight. And she's like, you just got to take. Acceptance. And she's like, and that takes away its power and all that stuff. And I was like, that sucks.

But I will give this credit. I haven't had one since, really. Yeah. It's been. Again, same idea. I don't know. I look at myself in the mirror being like, we're going panic attack night it's just like just accepting the idea yeah because part of it is like will it happen will it not will it happen will or not it's gonna happen

when it does we'll go through our you know routine of how to fix it and say i mean yeah same thing with like and she called me to eat sour patch kids which is i don't know if she like has the book out on you and she's like how can i get I get my client to really buy into my trust, or if it was just truly serendipity, but John's therapist saying the best way to combat a panic attack is to eat. I can't even say it aloud. John's therapist said the best way to combat a panic attack is to eat Sour Facts. Now, to give her credit, she started with raisins she was like a

food she's like i don't like this recommend candy in case you fall asleep and it's a hard candy and i was like what about sour patch kids she's like oh my god sour patch kids are great and i was like perfect i keep them bedside already so i mean that that'd be like a grounding exercise for people who listening who don't know what i would be doing sour patch kids you like focus on the texture focus on the taste focus on the taste focus on the saliva it's generating and then that helps with the panic attack but uh i keep i have it's actually very funny to like my girlfriend be like babe can you hand me my anxiety medication that'd be like if i went to a therapist and i was like you know what's the best way to uh to like get over uh divorce and

they'd be like eat donuts and watch porn you got me doc write a prescription for it right now but yeah i i think i believe what you're trying to say to tie it back to will smith and them is that like accepting that it's gonna happen yeah it made sense again the ad read threw me off it didn't make sense in the moment for why i was like you're gonna want to cheat or you're gonna feel you know urges for other people or you're gonna uh treat each other poorly and the kids are gonna so it's like accept all that and and again truly accept it because i i know there are people who are gonna be like yeah that's what we all did when we got married like we it's like you say that but are you really like prepared to like because i do think there's a lot of people that say not me are you really like prepared to like because i do think

there's a lot of people that say not me you know i never thought i would cheat i never thought i would like have a problem with it and i think had i been a little more like honest with what marriage means you could be it doesn't have anything to do with you again it's like the rules and the institution of marriage might not play for you and and like who you're with and like did you really examine that did Did you really give that some thought? Because I think, especially for them being celebrities, it's like, yeah, listen, this is not going to be normal. We'll just figure it out as we go.

The problem, I do believe, is... It's also so weird with... Wasn't she in love with Tupac? Yeah, Jada's got... Jada's a wild one. It's impossible. I'm trying to think how I'm going to word this. Like, if your girlfriend had someone die, like, you're always second place. Yeah, I know.

Like, you're never, like, he can't fuck up anymore. Right. He won. And he's getting the, especially a rapper. We all know what happens when rappers die. They get put up on a fucking pedestal. So now, all of a sudden, Tupac is the man and clearly would have been choice one but it's but it's not it's not even just like obviously it helps that it's tupac but just anyone in general if your

significant other's ex died they won but you'll never be what they were you'll like they again they can't fuck up anymore they're always going to be to be perfect. You'll sit around thinking about the dead person the time they picked a fight with you or the time they fucked up. You think about the good times. At that point, listen, you got a dead ex, I'm out. Good luck. It ain't going to be me. You ain't getting over him with me, though.

I'll tell you that much. But I think the way their setup would work, and any setup if you're doing open relationships or making up for it or whatever, I think it's got to be both parties. It's got to go both ways, right? I think if Jada has her open marriage and Will's just sitting at home being like, well, I wish this wasn't happening. I wish we were together. That's going to be a problem. If Will Smith's out there doing his thing, then, you know, so you're like, no blood.

Now, I don't know what the case, because Will Smith, we don't know that story. I don't know. Do you think Will Smith's out there just doing his shit? So he went on and he didn't say anything? He basically just, like, had his wife tell him that she cheated on the deal? Pretty much. And he already knew this, obviously.

It wasn't, like, a big reveal. Now, again, I didn't watch the whole thing, but I haven't read anything that was like, and then Will talked about his girlfriend or his mistress or whatever. And then the most fucked up thing I think I've ever seen on the internet happened. Two things, actually. The first one was somebody did a dubbed over video of Will Smith when he's doing the famous how come he don't love me scene from Fresh Prince.

And they dub over a voice that sounds kind of like Will Smith talking about Jada Pinkett and talking like, how come she don't love me, man? So already I was like, this is so fucked up because one, we're talking about someone's marriage and two, we're talking about, in my mind, the most emotional and upsetting scene in recorded history. Like you don't fuck with the marriage of another man and woman

and you definitely don't fuck with that scene from Fresh Prince. It's not Armageddon. I mean, Armageddon. Armageddon is the only scene I will cry at. Dude, if you don't cry with that Will Smith scene... I don't even flinch. What? I honestly don't understand the appeal behind it. Not appeal, but just the...

What don't you get? I mean, I get it. I just don't feel it. I get it. I don't feel it. You're racist. So that was the first thing that I thought was horrible. Did you see what 50 Cent did to Will Smith?

That's not real. The DM thing? Why is it not real? There's no way that's real. You think 50 photoshopped it? Yes. 100%. 100,000%.

Do you know how 50 rolls on the internet, man? Yeah, by faking shit. What's he faked? Getting shot. We're 0 for 1. What else is he faked? I think this is real. Nah.

I hope it's fake. I hope you're right. I think this is naive John coming out. 50 Cent is a madman on the internet. I saw this yesterday, and I dismissed it so quickly, being like, this is absolutely fake. I hope it is. Is there no one who questions it? I thought this was 100% obviously

fake, fake. So 50 Cent, go back, Nick. 50 Cent DM'd Will Smith and said, yo, Will, you alright? He said, yeah, I'm cool. I appreciate your concern, my brother. And then 50 says, but why'd she tell you all that shit? What did says, but why does she tell you all that shit? What did she say?

Why does she tell you all that shit? I can't read it. On a show for everyone to see? Yeah. Will Smith says, we broke up. She did her and I did me. And he said, then she only said she can give permission for someone to blow her back out. And Will Smith says, fuck you, 50.

I hope it's fake i i hadn't considered it just because i think will i think that 50 cent is a is a online terrorist and a madman and a marauder but um like i i think the the part that makes me think it's fake is the fuck you 50 you just wouldn't respond yeah well i did i did get a kick out of that you're right i was like just thinking of will smith being like fuck you 50 but what i thought was interesting in believing that it was real when he says she broke up we broke up she did her i did me like if will smith has his own august if he has a whole slew of chicks then i think this is much more like yeah okay this works yeah i i think it's fine no matter what i think it's weird that he didn't bring it up if they're if they're gonna have the

show yeah you should both do it but i don't know she looks like people are kind of like she looks like an asshole you know so maybe he's like i'm not gonna you're not gonna hear about how i fucked like a thousand chicks right because i got my own like he's a bigger star to worry about you know yeah he is definitely so from wayfair fucking human trafficking to uh wild ass celebrity celebrity arrangements with their marriage. The internet was for sure on fire. And on top of all that was cake. Twitter and social media has lost their minds over fucking cake. And yesterday, this weekend, the cake thing was the first thing for me. Not the first thing, but one of the ones that jumps out at me

where I felt like an old person where I was just like, I don't know what's going on here I missed it I missed the genesis of it this is a perfect example of when we say we need the pinned tweet at the top of the explore page like why did this start but all of a sudden everybody's talking about cake and making flat out bad jokes about

cake and I was just like what's happening and then people were telling me they're like oh well you know Twitter thinks everything's a cake I was like I'm looking for further clarification that one early that one viral earlier in the week though didn't like i saw the i saw the video well i see the videos with the videos of people being like these are cakes and it looks like you know they're about to chop into a fucking shoe when it turns out to be a cake i've seen those before right but i guess

for whatever reason this finally hit and people just started questioning what's a cake and what's not a cake. And we were putting out memes of me and you looking like we were cake. And everyone was retweeting and talking about it. And I was like, this is the dumbest shit I've ever fucking seen. I don't know what's going on here. By the way, making those cakes is wild. I don't know how they do it and how much time it takes. It is pretty cool, though.

Do you think what's worse, cake videos or people who say, show me your dog? Oh, he's going to do it. My boy's about to do it. John's been brewing. He's been stewing on this take for a while, and I'm worried about it. I know. The dirty little secret is I'm right there with them. There are a few things in this world you can't do. You can't say

the N word, you can't do blackface, and you can't talk down about dogs. I'm going to do one of them right now. Let's hope it's I don't know which one's the best. I don't know which one's the best. If you told me I'm going to do some blackface right now, it might go over better than what you're about to say. I just don't care about

I like my dog. You paused. I like like my dog i love my dog i i just don't get the bill and i just i don't know i'm i'm honestly so scared to say this but you should be i just don't care about your dog i do not co-sign what john's about to say here you can go out on that limb yourself brother no i'm with you i actually i care about the dogs. What I don't care about is other humans talking and showing me their dog. When is it the excitement level? So the reason I bring this all up is I was at

brunch or whatever, lunch. It was dinner by the time I got out of bed. 4 p.m. wake up call. Yeah, it was dinner yesterday with my girlfriend and she kept being like, oh, oh, turn around, turn around, turn around. And I turn around and be a little fucking dog. And I'm like, yeah, I get it.

I've seen some before. It's a fucking dog. I get it. No big deal. If you were just like, hey, there's a dog over there, I'd look and be like, oh, what a cute dog. But if you gas me up. I'll be honest.

Even if, like, you don't need to point out every fucking. Every single dog. If dogs were rare, fine. I mean, I see dogs every fucking two seconds. There was one dog where I was like, good dog to show. Because it was a wolf. It was a wolf. Yeah, if it's maybe a bulldog, it's got the ring to the rolls.

No, fuck bulldogs. I'm an anti-bulldog. Frenchies? Frenchies can suck a dick. Why? Oh, fuck a Frenchie. You're going to get in a lot of trouble on this podcast. Yeah, no, I don't care.

I don't care. I think if your dog is... Frank, I'm very passionate about that one. I do not care about Frenchies in particular. I really do not care. They're like the best. They're like couch dogs. They like, they wash... They're the only dog...'re like couch dogs they like like they watch they're the only you don't have to wipe their ass they're the only dog yeah that's fucked up they're like you have to wipe that dog

that watches tv i don't fucking care known to like sit on the couch and watch tv kevin what is this segment even about i don't care i what i don't like is the um the like internet the internet dogs is what I don't like. The doggos and the good boys and the – let's have a thread of everybody just taking pictures of their dogs. It's like, all right, I've seen a golden retriever 50,000 times. To me, it doesn't have the same – maybe once I was a man who could be cheered up by simply looking at a picture of a canine. I am not that man. i am not that man i am not that it's a lot more so maybe it's us maybe it's a nice problem maybe we're i think it's not

i think we're i think we're the only ones being honest right we're the will and jada we're just laying it all out there we'll tell it like it is like i think that the like a picture of your dog does not make me happier no it doesn't all right whatever and and and and like it does yeah it just doesn't be like i'm having a bad day show me your dog well you're you're not having a bad day if a picture of a dog can cheer you up that means you just want to see pictures of dogs aka actually what you're doing is you're trying to get online cloud replies that's what you're fucking doing give me a break that's not to do with your depression or your fucking dogs it's doing twitter oh i've had a rough day let

me see your dog shut the fuck up yeah how Yeah. How about that? I'll never show you a picture of my dog. Ever. Ever. I don't care who you are. You do not get to see my dog. I don't care how depressed. If you're like, I'm going to kill myself if I don't see your dog, I'm not showing you a picture of my dog. I'll send you a picture of a noose before I send you a picture of a fucking dog. I just don't

like the dramatics. I don't like You know what it is? It's liars. They're lying. They're not that affected by this picture of my dog. If you had a gun to your head and you're ready to pull the trigger and I showed you the picture and you stopped and I had proof that it actually affected you, maybe. But what I'm

seeing here is just people lying about how much they like dogs. And afraid to admit that you can be a dog person without being a dog annoying dog person. You can be a dog person without being a dog annoying dog person. You can be a dog person without being a psychotic person. You know what they are? They're like the Disney freaks or like the My Little

Bronies and shit like that. It's like you're being a weird cult about dogs. I'm a dog person. I'm not a dog cult member. I like the dog. I'll pet the dog. I have a dog. I don't need to act like dogs control my level of happiness at all times. I think about it like someone who goes to a sporting event.

We are going to get roasted. I don't care. I don't care. Even Nick is over here like, oh, man, this is bad. Out of all the takes I've had, I just sat here the whole time complaining as a divorced man about how marriage sucks. I'm going to get crushed for that. Don't even flinch.

Don't even think about it. The dogs, I'm like, oh, no. I think about it like fucking, like someone who goes to a sporting event, like face painted and everything. Yeah. You can just go to a game and like the game. They're fanatics. You don't have to be a fucking lunatic about it.

Yes. I'm a dog person. I'm not a dog fanatic. Right. I'm not a fucking psycho. Yeah. It's so weird. It's just so over the top.

Who's your dog? Who's your dog? Who's your little pupper? Shut the fuck up. Yeah. We're going to get some fucking soul crush. The names, the good boy, it's like, no, they're not all good boys. How about that?

That dog fucking is a poorly behaved dog. He's not a good boy. That dog doesn't even know how to fucking sit. Are you kidding me? We might lose our podcast. We thought you were in trouble two weeks ago. I know. I thought the cancer was coming.

Oh, it's coming. Set the counter back to zero. I don't care about your dog! Let's do our top fives and then get into our voicemails and interviews for the day. Oh, that's a good segue again. Top five of the things that we don't care about. Oh, perfect. Top five.

Number one, you fucking dog. Top five things that we don't care about that other people do care about or vice versa. Just things where your level of care not matching the general public. All right. Time to get into our KC Radio top fives. It's a top five Tuesday. It's brought to you by Manscaped. They are leveling up the full body

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people love and no one else gives a shit about. That you don't give a shit about. Yeah. Like, okay, I'll go first. Yeah, you give me an example. Number one is going to be I'm going to go boat names. I'm going to do boat names. Everyone thinks a boat name

is the cleverest, most genius thing they've ever thought of in their whole life. To them, it probably does. Too real, too real. It's always some double entendre. They worked on it for weeks.

They worked on it for weeks. Or it's just an inside joke or whatever, and you don't know it, and then they tell you, and you're just like, okay. If someone tells you a boat name, they start trying to explain, like the devil on top of you, like, no, I get it. You're not that great. It's just not that good. It's like, I get it.

It's either not funny. I could see someone be like, it's the broshen dude the motion of the broshen it's like that's just terrible or it's complicated and complex and you have to explain it and then it's like when you have to explain your Halloween costume it's like that's just not that good then dude

I'm gonna go with your fantasy team or your bets the whole like the whole shebang from the name to the bet you've placed to how your individual players performed to your playoffs to your commissioner he blocked the trade i set the lineup this guy was my flex uh don't care don't care at all and i know that like it's funny because people said that about fantasy teams for a while now. And then we started up the gambling stuff. And it's like, well, I don't know why the logic doesn't apply there.

I don't care that you had the fucking over. I don't care that you had. At least there's a commonality because we can have the same bet. Whereas, like, your fantasy team is individual to your fantasy team. But also, I just don't care about things that are going to impact your wallet that don't impact mine. Speaking of bets, I put the biggest bet in my life on Masvidal Saturday night. How awful was that, dude? It didn't work.

How big are we talking? I mean, it was... A rent check? Yeah, a rent check. That's not great. And it wasn't, because it wasn't even, first of all, it wasn't close. Second of all, it was just like a slow death for your bet.

Yeah. It was just like, oh, we're going to lose this. Yep, we're definitely going to lose this. Third round for sure. Fourth round, fifth round, yep. I don't know. I have a bone to pick with Bob Fox. Robert Fox and the UFC crowd, you got to let me know.

And maybe they did and I just wasn't paying attention. But I did not see enough people saying that what happened is what was going to happen. You got to let me know. Like I knew about Floyd Mayweather. You're not going to get fireworks. You're just going to watch a guy point you to death. I needed to know that about Usman. I did not.

I thought I was going to get Shadow Realm versus Shadow Realm. There's going to be a slobber knocker. And every time I've ordered a UFC pay-per-view, I've been happy because I only ordered the big ones. So I was ready for a big night. And that was awful. The toe stomping and the like just grind like grappling and shit like and then everyone was like oh yeah that's what he does like well why didn't you tell me that you got to let me know if someone is a a technical specialist and not just like i'm going

to knee you in the face i want i want and like you said shadow realm i don't know who decided this um that was a horrible like pr move for Masvidal. Because I thought of that guy as like Khabib. I thought of him as shadow realm, like monster you can't fuck with. And I know he took the fight on short notice. And I know a lot of- I didn't realize how short it was. Yeah, it was like six days, right?

Six days, dude. So I get all that. But then that's all the more reason to say no. Because I thought of him, in UFC, you have to win. But then you have to be, you have to have the persona to become like the next level you know and he had the persona

now he's on the persona it's like you just let this guy bear hug you to death where was the shadow realm on that one bro you know so uh yeah fuck that uh two kids I don't care about your kids that's it I don't care about your kids

totally fair but it's also such a take where it's like it's hard by the way once you have kids that consumes my life so I don't have anything else to tell you but it's weird when

because most of the time I don't and then when you post your kids I'm like aww and then when Dan posted his kids you know what I do too? I usually make sure it's gotta be somewhat funny and then when you post your kids, I'm like, aw. And then when Dan posted his kid the other day. You know what I do, too? I usually make sure I post it. It's got to be somewhat funny or there's something relatable. If it's just like, look at my kid on his first day of school,

it's like, who fucking cares? Here's where I'll change. I'm fine with posting it on social media. That's obviously what your life is. I do not want you to pull me aside and show me regular pictures. That applies to anything. Like, look at these, my vacation pictures. Right, right, right.

If you pose on social, fine. Yeah, school, whatever. But if you're like, you got to see this picture. And you just show me. I'd be like, what are you fucking doing? What could you possibly show me there that's worth interrupting my life? There's not a single picture that I'd be like, whoa. That's got to be like a sex tape of something. That's the only way you can pull me aside and show me there that's worth interrupting my life there's not a single picture that i'd be like whoa that's got to be like a sex tape of something that's the only way you can pull me aside and

show me anything not with your kids by the way just just not wayfair over here um two for me um uh cars i just don't care about cars in general i don't care about your car i don't care about like the new model i don't care about i don't i don't care about cars i think when i finally buy a car one day i'm getting just like a 90s sedan yeah i thought about this actually uh if i if i have like money to burn because then it's like you're not gonna get a piece of shit just like to prove a point i mean i think i would get an audi audi was always kind of my the car i liked the most yeah it's like i'm not gonna go get like a Lamborghini. I'm not going to get – even like a Benz is like you're buying a luxury car.

I think an Audi is like it's a luxury car, but it's just like kind of normal. That's probably what I would get. Otherwise, like my family used to have like an Altima or a Maxima, a Nissan Altima. And I was like, this is a great car. It's fine. It's big. It's wide. It fits.

I'm all good. Done. I'm really – I'm thinking about a minivan. I think think i'm gonna bite the bullet and get a minivan are you yeah because uh right now i have like a smaller suv and it sucks it's trash and caitlin has this fucking luxury uh minivan that's like electronic doors dvds in the headrest space vacuums like the whole nine yeah like it just like pull it out which like if you go to my car there's fucking food and shit all over because the kids she just zips it up i want to get like a a black on black on black murdered out minivan imagine like a minivan with tinted windows and like black rims i'll be honest

with you i don't know if i can let you get a minivan yo seeed windows and black rims. I'm going to be honest with you. I don't know if I can let you get a minivan. See, people say that. I remember Erica Nardini. I've been talking about this for years. Back in the old office, she was like, I just think it would be bad for your brand if you got a minivan. I was like, I think it would be perfect for my brand.

It's your living room on wheels. What's more on brand for me? What, are you trying to sell one to me now? What's more on brand for me than that? It comfortable it's wide it's big it's got tvs i might just live in my minivan i mean it's just it's not is what it says about you okay let's continue with that i i i know like okay so what does it say about me it's kind of just like i don't know i don't know it's like i think i think if your car if your method of transportation is what like represents you as a person or that if you think that's what it is i think you're i think you're

insecure yeah no i agree with that i i think of it as it's like um sweatpants in public where it's like i like the idea also not a problem i like the idea of sweatpants in public i don't like people who wear sweatpants in public but that's so i like i get the idea of a minivan if i started wearing sweatpants in public what would you think i started if i started yeah i when you come in in sweatpants i'm like wish kevin had pants on today why because you look better in them. It's more appealing to my eye. So as we do this subject, this topic of things like you don't care about, you care about how I look.

I don't care about how you look. I care about how you feel. And I think when you come in in sweatpants. All the more reason. That's what I'm at. That's what I'm like. I'm at my most comfortable. See, I think that's not.

I think those are days where you're having a tough day. Well, you're kind of right because it's like, yeah, I need to destigmatize this. Because you're right. Those are the days where I'm like, all right, I'm just not even going to bother putting on pants. But what I want to do is like, this is just how I roll. Right. So if you start wearing them, then I'm going to wear them every day. You start wearing them every day?

Every day in my minivan. I love when people are like, I can't get a minivan, man. Like, guys are worried. Like, most of the time like, I can't get a minivan, man. Guys are worried. Most of the time, you're going to be a married dude with kids. It's like, oh, all the college co-eds aren't banging at your door to suck your dick anymore because you drive a fucking Honda Odyssey. The fuck out of here, old man. You're a skinny, fat dad with three kids.

No one's sucking your dick anyway, man, no matter what you're driving. I'm going to be the sweatpants guy in a minivan just riding, just cruising with my fucking couch in the back. You guys have had this exchange before on Twitter. Yeah? 2017, can I get a minivan? Feidelberg weighs in and hits me with the single meanest thing. Oh, you got to play it.

The single meanest thing Feitz has ever said to me. Let's hear it. Can I get a minivan? No. Fuck, I was hoping you were going to say yes. No. Tom, can I get a minivan? No.

Can I get a minivan? You got it. Yeah! Why do you have to get a minivan? Okay, getting a minivan is like killing yourself. You just think to yourself, it would just be so much easier that way. I think it is the most manly thing in the world.

I think that's quite the spins on that. I'm going to spin right off this goddamn earth, John. I think that's one of those, like, fucking a dude's one of the toughest things you can do. You think I could ever get laid if I was in a minivan? Say I have a hall pass. I roll out for the night in the minivan. Boop, boop. Do the little electronic doors.

Yeah, because any chick who decides to fuck you is a living minivan and she's she's already given that was the meanest thing I've ever heard she's like whatever I'll fuck this guy the only girls that would fuck you are human minivans

yo you're right I do give a fuck that's it well it's gonna be me and the minivan girls whatever that's my new life Yo, you're right. I do give a fuck. That's it. That's it. Well, it's going to be me and the minivan girls. Whatever. That's my new life. You're up. Number three.

I'm just making it official, I guess. Dogs. Dogs. Your dog. Your dog. Your dog. I love my dog. It's not dogs in general. I don't care. Your dog. Your dog. Your dog. I love my dog. It's not dogs in general.

I don't care about your dog. Same kind of deal where it's like it's not about the dog. I don't want to make this about the dog. It's about you making the dog a thing. Where you're like, look at this dog. Look at this dog. Look at this dog. We've already talked about this.

But yeah, I have no ill will towards dogs. Yeah, it can't be the dog. Well, it's the humans. You forcing your dog upon me. It's a doggy rape. And we were just talking to Dan about this and he's like, oh, are you talking about Hank and Rita? I'm definitely not. Hank and Rita's dog is adorable.

Fucking adorable. It is not all Hank and Rita. What it would be. It's about my goddamn girlfriend yesterday. What it would be is if someone else came up to me and was like, did you see Hank and Rita's dog? Right. Exactly. I did. And I liked it. And I saw it it and i don't need you fucking making a whole production about it number three for me things other people care about that

i don't well no this is not even necessarily uh what other people care about uh this is another this kind of goes hand in hand with like other other minivan shit and getting older and whatever. I don't give a fuck about landscaping and the front yard and the house culture. You know what I mean? That's a – my dad's going to punch you right in the mouth. Yeah. My dad's like, you see the new hydrangeas? Right. I don't even know what a hydrangea is, dude.

I'm like, Christopher Feidelberg, I want to chop your head off. I don't care about it at all. That was one of the biggest hurdles for me when I went from apartment life to house life. It's like I'm supposed to either mow this lawn or pay someone to mow this lawn. I have to think about mulch and planting and landscaping and rocks and fencing and all that shit. You know what? The equivalent to me of when you go tanning and it's like I don't care. I don't tan my back.

I just like – like the front doesn't look good. It's like the same thing. It's like I want to like live in this house. I don't need it to like look a certain way and be a certain thing. It's like I'm inside. I don't care what it looks like outside right now. I'm good. I don't care and I certainly don't want to like – I definitely don't want to do manual labor.

I definitely don't want to pay a lot of money to it and I certainly don't want to have like conversations about it. Like you get to like a barbecue with another dad and they're just like, well, we overwatered with the sprinkler. This cannot possibly be the only thing you can talk about. How not interesting are you? My dad loves it so much that he hires people to do it, but then he helps them. So he goes out there. And this is not one of those. Usually when I see these things, I think it's like,

your dad just wants to get away from the wife and kids for a little bit and be outside. You think he actually likes the. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, he can just go hang out in the garage. There are places he can go. Why do you think he likes it?

I don't know. I'd love to get inside their brain. It's a fairly recent thing. I mean, not like probably 15 years, but it wasn't like he grew up loving flowers and shit. But one time he was helping one of the guys doing the gardening and they were digging

holes or something like that. And my dad's like, I'm in good shape. I can keep up with this. And the guy dug seven holes for every one hole my dad dug. They're machines, man. And my dad was like, hey, like, kind of the argument he made. He's like, I'm in good shape. Like I work out.

I'm good. Like why are you so much faster than me at this? And the guy just held up a shovel and he goes, 27 years. It's true, man. You just do anything long enough. This is what I've been doing for 27 years, man. That's why. It's not.

Same thing with like when they paint, they go extra fast. And when they like anything, they just like, yeah, I know how to. It's like, I don't know. We could write a blog faster than most. Right, right, right. This is easy for me. Okay, it's my turn. Four is four is I'll go vanity plates everyone loves a vanity

I think every vanity plate every single one you look like an asshole and this is coming from someone who had a vanity plate on my first car what does it say? it wasn't

the message wasn't vanity it was like a Bruins thing it wasn't like a got it got it got it it wasn't like fights or anything like that yeah is there a vanity plate

you think that you could be like not like oh my god it's so funny but just like yeah you know I'd rather have that than oh my God, it's so funny, but just like, yeah. I'd rather have that than three letters and three numbers, so I just did this. No. No, I think...

It's one of those things that's like, if you're doing it, you're trying too much. 100% of the time you're trying too much. 100%. By the by, if you're ever involved in some sort of crime or something, by the way, you're shooting yourself in the foot, too. You know?

You have a bunch of random numbers going by. It's like, oh, I can't find it. But if it's like, his license plate said, like, muscle man. Go find that car. He's the criminal. Yeah, vanity plates are a tough look. What's worse? Having, like, the

sport or, like, the words. You know what I mean? Sometimes when I see, like, a Yankees, like, everything, I'm just like, oh, my God. Ah, the words, you know what I mean? Like sometimes I see like a Yankees, like everything. I'm just like, Oh my God. Ah, the words are worse. Yeah.

Is there, the words are 100% of the time Yankees, a bad example because yeah, it's the Yankees, but like there are plenty of things where it's actually kind of cool. Like they have like the Cape and islands down. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. It's better than just a plain old, I just, it's funny how much, how often they reinforce the stereotypes. Like a lot of times it says like doctor or something or other. That is a weird thing in New York, by the way. You guys have like – in Massachusetts, you don't have like special –

I always wondered what that was. We have NYP for the New York press, which I guess maybe you're parking at events or something like that. And so you need to like – I didn't know that one. Yeah, the press has one. And then doctors too. I guess it's just a like pull over you know i'm speeding to get i guess i i when i was a kid i used to think about like is it like can i like we need a doctor like there's one like pull over i i don't know what that's about uh all right four for me um i had I had one second ago and it just escaped me I think I'm

I think I'm probably overly so I think I'm out on like glory days though like when people tell me like their stories you don't do it in a way though if you're telling me about like I guess no I guess it's tough because I'm a nostalgia fan but like if you're telling me about like i guess no i guess it's tough because

i'm a nostalgia fan but like if you're telling me about shit like your sports from 20 years ago or you're partying from 20 years ago or whatever where i can tell you're just like clearly latching on to the past yeah i'm just like i don't fucking care i get that that one's but at the same time i will i will so i'll sit here and talk to you about like golden eye and riding my bikes and I'm just like, I don't fucking care. I get that. That one's fine. But at the same time, I would. That's why I get when people don't like me. I will. I'll sit here and talk to you about like GoldenEye and riding my bikes and shit that I love doing when I was 15. I think it's your attitude when you do it. If you're just like, remember that as kids, that was awesome.

Versus if you're like, I was so cool when I did like blah, blah, blah. And that translates usually like fraternity, bro. That's really what it is. Like fraternity shit. If you're telling me about like, you know, your legacy and your house or some shit, I want to burn it down. Oh, fuck. I got more now.

Did that trigger something? Yeah. Fraternity. Where you went to college. Yeah, right. That same sort of shit where it's like, you know, if you're, if you're really, I'll do that one for you. Okay.

It's like, if you're talking about your college experience and your frat and your party and the sports you played and when you were cool, when you like fucking 18 uh i don't fucking care i'd rather you talk to me about like your boring pathetic life at the age of 40 then let's talk about something that happened like 60 years someone called me 40 by the way on twitter the other day it was so mean somebody said to me you're only they said you're 35 like a bunch of question marks and i was like i couldn't tell which way it was going yeah do you think i'm older younger yeah yeah i was like this is either either way it's probably not a compliment but i'd much rather be people surprised i'd much rather people be like you're 35 and this is what you talk about versus like you're only 35 right right because then i look like i'm not

uh number five your mask everyone like thinks they have the coolest mask in the world Oh, got it Are people talking about it? Like, I got this mask I feel like people always post on social media Like, this new mask I just got No one gives a fuck Just wear the mask and shut up

Right, especially because the people who don't like masks Are going to be like, I don't fucking care what's on it The people who do like masks are kind of just like We're doing this for the medical reasons We don't fucking care about I love people in surgical masks Because it's just all business Yeah, just like we're doing this for like the medical reasons we don't fucking care about I love people in surgical masks it's just all business it's like the blue like yeah

I'm not trying to be fancy out here I'm not trying to look cool this is just what I'm supposed to be doing so I got the fucking basic mask I know it's not a novel concept but like I just can't believe the people who like give you on to record setting it's crazy

when you get into a zone like that I don't know what's going on believe the people who like give you on to record setting amount it's crazy i can't stop yawning and when you get when you get into a zone like that i don't know what's going on like doctors have been wearing a mask forever dentists like it's already it's not like a new thing right it's like people wear masks to reduce the spread of germs not eliminate not save you from a disease but it does slow down germs. How can you argue against that? That's crazy that you'd argue like completely against that. All right, last one for me.

I guess we already did college. Oh, like your job. Like people, girls telling me like about their problems about their job and their boss. Oh, like your job. Like people, girls telling me like about their problems, about their job and their boss. Oh, yeah. Couldn't possibly add to this conversation because I don't work with you. Couldn't possibly care about the situation because at the end of the day, everyone goes through this. And yeah, it's ultimately not nearly important enough to be to like dominate our dinner conversation i i hate i hated someone and it's actually one two where i can uh i i know i don't do the other one i don't go the other way

around like i don't complain about your job yeah so it's not like you're being critical talking about my job i actually i probably am hypocritical in this one but often because like my friends are like interested in barcelona they ask me about it so i talk about it but i'll never sit here and just be like did do you know what dave said today they ask me about it, so then I talk about it. But I'll never sit here and just be like, do you know what Dave said today? If they ask me about Dave, I'll fucking tell you. And it'll become complaining because it's not so how I feel. But I will never just offer it up. It's just like, no, you can't possibly think anybody else wants to hear about your shit at work.

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It's Super Producer BC. I got a M.I. am i the asshole for you um me and my girlfriend of about a year uh we just moved in about a month ago and we've been trying to split all our bills together and we just went out for a nice date night. We went out to the bar and got a little bit drunk and I went and bought some pull tabs. Won about $280 and going into the night, we were planning on splitting the tab, but I've won the pull tabs,

so I offered to buy her drinks for the night. And it turns out now she's extremely mad at me because I didn't pay for the entire meal. So am I the asshole for only paying for part of her meal after winning the pull tabs with my own money? Pull tabs are those things in Minnesota. Yeah. It's like a little, it's like a scratch off in case you don't know. Right.

It's like a little lottery ticket. Um, I kind of think he is. Yes. Oh, definitely. Yeah. Yeah.

Like what you're doing is a nice thing, but if you won some money and your version of like paying, you know, of giving back because you're the winner is to pay, you gotta pay the whole thing. If you, if you win money at night or like, like if you win the bet, like, like say like you're at a bar watching the whole thing if you if you win money at night or like if you win

the bet like say like you're at a bar watching the ufc fights you win that like unless everyone's betting if you're the only person who bet yeah but you buy the drinks right but not the rest of the night but you buy everyone around or or i mean especially like i guess you don't have the celebratory thing but you don't have to necessarily offer i don't know but if you do you can't just be like i'm gonna pay for half of this right right right now yeah i don't know if necessarily offer, I don't know. But if you do, you can't just be like, I'm going to pay for half of this. Right, right, right. Let's say you're hurting and you need money for fucking rent and you win it on the pull tabs. Fine.

But then don't be like, hey, I'm the big winner. I'll get your first round. It's like you got to pay for the whole fucking thing. If you want credit for being generous, you got to be fully generous. And it does feel like we're kind of being nitpicky here where it's like when celebrities donate money and it's like that's only like 1% of their net worth. But still, too bad. I'm definitely like jumping on both sides of the fence here. I don't fucking care.

You got to pay for the whole time. It's not necessarily the dollar amount though. The thing with the celebrities is like the dollar amount compared to how much you make. It's like the thing you're offering, you can't just like do half. Right. You know? I think that it's definitely crazy. I mean, I guess I think it's particularly asshole-ish just because like I would just pay for dinner.

Yeah. That's the other thing too, by the way, is if you're going out with your girlfriend, like a lot of times you probably most guys are paying for the dinner anyway. So it's not like you're going above and beyond in the first place. It's a lot of splitting going on here and it also it's just tough math to be like i will pay for subtract for what her meal so i'm paying for the drinks on the like yeah you're right my car down like i have the whole tab right i want these these six things are me that one's your salad and your uh your entree because i'm only paying for the wine. Right. That doesn't make any sense.

That's crazy. Yeah. So – It's just – if you have to – if it's a difficult thing to figure out on the bill, just pay the bill. I actually – I reached a point in my life – it's stupid and it's reckless financially because it's unnecessary and I don't end up making money back. But I don't ever get the money back. But if I'm out with a bunch of people now, I am in a place financially where I can just like pay for the deal for the

dinner. Like I'll, I'll still split it up at the minute that there's like controversy. I'm just like, I'll, I'll do this. You know, I was out at a bachelor party a while back.

We were in Virginia or some shit. Remember when I went like tubing? So it was like a cheaper, you know, state and city that I was in. And we went out to the bar and it was like 20 guys drinking know state and city that i was in and we went out to the bar and it was like 20 guys drinking and i remember being like all right we gotta like split this up because i don't have that kind of money and the girl came back and it was like 700 and

i was like i remember looking at like uh 20 drunk guys and being like i could either like corral all these guys or just pay 700 bucks probably recoup like 300 of it at the end of the day and just be i'm fine i'm done with that. That's a hundred percent. That premium is one I will pay to not have to be like, I need your card to split, you know? No.

So the minute you can get beyond the splitting of, of bills feels great. I mean, there used to be a time where it was just like, you know, I need every fuck. Well, I'll split this.

Give me nine credit cards. Cause I got no more than $27, but, but, but being able to just pay for that. And then again, if you're doing something nice, if you're supposed to be like, Hey,

look at me, I'm, I'm like, you know, the generous one. You can't start nitpicking. No. Next up.

Asshole. Love you. Hey, I'm just wondering if I am the asshole. First of all, I just heard my boyfriend that I recently moved in with in the other room submitting to your page. So I guess that's why I'm calling. And it took a lot of research to find the number. So that's, I guess, the first point of the situation.

So the am I an asshole situation comes from me. We were at the bar and my boyfriend, um, he won $280 in pull tabs. Maybe lost them for 200 in profit. Sure. So he gets there and then the tab comes, the tab comes.

Keep in mind, he had just bought me like ice. Like he's a great guy. Like he is a good boyfriend. Like bought me white claws, ice cream earlier in the day to make me happy yeah that's great okay so then here we are and what happens next I'll tell you what happens next the tab comes for our bill well he had just won 200 plus dollars in poll tabs and um the bill comes so they ask you know together or separate and my boyfriend

his name's stone he goes stone no i think so we can do together we can figure it out so then as she's putting it the tab together i'm like what is she gonna figure out so i'm a little bit confused by that sense and um he's like, well, what do you mean? And I'm like, well, you just won a lot of money in pull tabs. Like, I guess I could have been wrong. In that sense, perhaps I could have been wrong, perhaps not. And that's what I need to know. Am I the asshole for assuming that he was going to pay for the tab

after he won that money in pull tabs? Yes. that he was going to pay for the tab after he won that money in pull tabs. Did we get a couple shots because we just congratulated each other on unboxing all of our shit, moving in together? I'll tell you what. This is the difference between men and women. Not only the money, but boy, his voicemail took seven seconds. Hers is

going on and on and on. I will say this, though. I didn't even realize it was a celebratory night. You're definitely the asshole. You're celebrating moving in together. You have to pay for that. Forget about the celebratory night. If you announce it, if you say

hey, I won the pull tabs, I got this, and then it's just the drinks. You're an asshole. Is it a bit presumptuous to just be like... And let's say we're not a couple. Because I do think a lot of times guys are going to pay for the girl anyway. Me and you go out. And I know that you hit on a scratch off earlier in the day.

I don't think I would be assuming John pays. If he did, I wouldn't be surprised by it. I would be. I would be paying. I don't think I would ever... That would be a I would be paying. I don't think I would ever. That would be a welcome surprise to me if you were like, I hit 500 bucks earlier today. Oh, wow. Thanks.

No, because we always do that. Weren't you part of it whenever we got bonuses for T-shirts and stuff? We always go over drinks. Probably not as much, to be honest. I was always fucking running home. But I don't think I would expect it. I guess that's fair, but it's like, I mean, I'm going to pay for it. Yeah, yeah.

I mean, I would too. And it's like, I think there are people who do these things and people who don't. I think I'm always just, I think it's better to expect nothing, you know? Yeah. I mean, that's just good life lesson. Always expect nothing. How know? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, it's all, I mean, that's just good life lesson. Right. Always expect nothing. How's the phrase work? It's like, expect the worst and hope for the best.

I expect the worst. Prepare for the worst. Hope for the best. I like, um, all things for the worst. I'm like hoping that, you know, everything is bad as possible. That's what I should be prepared for at all times. Um, but I, I think the, the relationship aspect makes it a little bit different, but I don't think I'm ever going to,

those are hard to open. I'll give that to you. That's going to make it harder, I think. With the, here, come here, pussy boy. That makes it slipperier, slipperier, I think.

See, you did it again. You're grabbing the plastic. You got to, especially with these little ones, you got to grab just the top, and then it opens up real fine. By the way, it's ridiculous. You're just opening up an airplane

nip to just go straight with it. I love it. It's just funny. We're like, it's tired. It's the end of the day. This is the answer. Yeah. This is 100% the answer. I get it. Trust me. I get it. So I think that expecting it is always a little bit of a particular spot.

But yeah, Stone, he's the asset. Stone. Stone has a vanity plate a spot. So, but yeah, stone, he's the S stone. Stone has a vanity plate. All right. Here's the deal. Can't see five super blues. Yeah.

I left the voicemail earlier. My girlfriend stole my phone. Try to give her again. That's him again. We don't have to go through it, but yeah, he calls back again and it's like no let me hear let me hear as long as not too long which is absolute garbage um but she's trying to argue that i took my money put it in poll tabs i won money with my money

and we went into this situation considering that we're going to split the tab in half. But since I won money on my money, I said, I'll pay for your drinks because we got drunk that night. And she's mad that I didn't spend my money that I won with my money to not cover the entire tab. Keep in mind,

her meal cost $13. Her entire tab cost about $40. All the more reason. So I covered about 70% of her tab and she's mad that I didn't use my money when I invested on my money. All the more reason. I thought, you know, if we're talking like, again, who knows your financial situation?

Say you went to a steakhouse. I'll tell you what. They didn't go to a steakhouse. They might have gone to fucking McDonald's. Yeah. $13. Like, all the more reason to just say, let me pay for the whole thing. I know it's some Midwest shit.

I'm sure they got steak or something. Maybe it was something really nice. But $13. If you realize $13, I got you a meal. Yeah. 100% of the time. Oh, speaking of. Actually, by the way, forget about the pull tabs.

Again, like I said, you don't want to split up bills. If it's coming back and you got a $13 meal and I got a $16 meal, you're going to split that bill? Right. Forget about winning the lottery and shit. That should be under one card no matter what. 100%. Speaking of buying things to someone, I want to give a quick shout out to me who bought Slurpees for two kids yesterday.

You bought what for two kids? Slurpees at 7-Eleven. Because they were arguing. These two little kids were, I guess it was Saturday. It was free Slurpee day. Okay. Which I thought they were not doing. Oh, maybe that's what the argument was about

Cause I didn't You know Corona and all that shit I came in and like There was like Two like young kids Were like arguing with the Middle Eastern shop owner That's what it was

And they were just like Screaming at each other Yeah cause on 7-Eleven Every year there's free Slurpees And they didn't do it this year And I was like Look I'm just gonna I'm just gonna pay for it

Cause I just wanted to Ain't not be in there anymore Oh so it wasn't goodness of your heart It was like we just gotta get this over with Yeah I mean like it was They thought it was goodness just wanted to not be in there anymore. So it wasn't goodness of your heart. It was like, we just got to get this over with. Yeah. I mean, they thought it was goodness of my heart. They're like, thank you so much, man. They were jacked up.

I just wanted to get the fuck out of there. See, those. They were just arguing in circles. Just like, it's free. It's free. Like, no, no, no. We already used that number. We already used that number.

Like, no, this is our first time here. And they were just yelling. And I was like, I'll pay the six bucks or whatever the fuck it was. Honestly, identifying those things in life where it's like i'm gonna be the hero right now and it's only gonna cost me eleven dollars yes you know that's you but that's heroic those guys went home and they were like oh they'll tell tales yeah yeah they'll tell tales about the kid in in the fucking 7-eleven to pay for their slurpees they'll remember me forever honestly the stranger who bought them slurpees like They're going to get a tattoo of you.

Next up. I swear to God, if this is the girl, I'm going to go crazy. It's not. KFC. Fight. Superproducer BC. What's going on guys? First time, long time. Got a question for you. Just graduated college

this year. Just wanted to know what your guys' thoughts were on the differences between kind of the college bar scene and the adult bar scene. Like what kind of moves would fly in the college bar scene that don't really fly in the adult bar scene? They are not even the same thing in my mind. They both serve alcohol, and that's about it. I mean, in college bars, from the prices to the people to the, like, objectives, why you're there. I mean, it is all totally different. Yeah.

I mean, like, we have to clear six hours to talk about this. Yeah. They're exceptionally different places. Put it this way let me let me describe uh like a college one of the college bars at fordham especially at a place like fordham like i'm sure there are bars in college towns that are big party towns that like maybe the bars are different like i went to like three bronx local bars they were shit they were terrible um but i remember being at the bar,

bellying up to the bar, and my friend just took his dick out and pissed on the bar. I got a buddy who did that all the time. Have you ever done that post-college? I've never done it. I've never seen it post-college. That's just college

where it's just like, I can't believe that people do that. There's some bar backers who are to have to mop up my piss. And to be honest, it's probably not even that disrespectful because that guy is like, I'm a bar back at a college bar. Yeah. I got to clean up the piss and the puke. That's just what we do here. I'll never forget the most preposterous thing.

I've told this story before, but of all the ridiculous things i've done in my life this was the most ridiculous is that the bar called painted lady in tallahassee and it's right next to where pop bell is which is like the the fsu bar and uh for like a i don't know probably a whole semester i just tried to make manhattan's a thing so like i would be at a college bar like i'd be like let me get a manhattan And then I'd be like, yeah, in the martini glass. It's like, people would be just like crushing natty lights against their fucking skulls. I'm surprised they even had the martini glass. They were plastic. Yeah. And, but it was like.

Screw them together. It was like, I remember always staying there. And I would just be like, I'm such an asshole. But I fucking love this. I don't even really like Manhattans. As far as like whiskey drinks go, like Manhattans is towards the bottom of the list. I don't even really like Manhattans. As far as whiskey drinks go, Manhattans is towards the bottom of the list. I don't think anybody likes Manhattans.

I used to have an 89-year-old aunt that fucking drank Manhattans. That was the only woman I knew. Francis loved Manhattans. Yeah, that makes sense. Part of me likes that aspect, though. I think that's a fun part of a college bar where it's like, we're going to be ridiculous assholes.

Not like pissing on people and throwing up, but just stupid shit like that, where it's like... You're never going to do a shot of 151 not in a college bar. Some things like that, where it's like, this is going to be silly. Dude, they just have trash barrels around. So you can just throw away your drinks. Right, right. Just done with this one, next one. We're not going to have anyone come clean shit up.

That's such a good point. You guys are just like. You know, a normal bar, you finish it. You put it on the bar. They put it underneath. Here, it's just like we need one in the front. We need one in the back. We have industrial-sized trash barrels.

40-gallon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a great point. I never would have picked that out. And you got like a beer pong table over there. And like, you know, even just like the jukebox at a college bar. I feel like used to be like you're gonna take it over and blast the music you you gotta own like a college

bar you like you like the college bar is like alive yeah you know a post-college bar is just like you're at a bar you're at it's half a restaurant half a bar post-college bars are sad yeah probably you're right like yeah i mean like not sad. You know what post-college bars are? And I'm talking like, then you get older and you go to a nice bar. That's different. A bar that's like Murray Hill, post-college, everyone there is like 24, it's like you're a super senior. You're trying to recreate the college bar, and you just can't.

No. You know, like you're trying to drink as much. You'll drink as much, but it'll be more expensive. So you won't be like, it's not like dollar beers. And like the music's on, but it's not like your jukebox. And like, there's no beer pong. You're hooking up, but you're not like fingering a girl in the corner. It's just all when you try to recreate a fun night and you can't.

That's the post-college bar. Yeah, that's true. But it's also, you know, sometimes it's like, I don't want to like be, I don't want to like step in a puddle of piss, so I'm happy. So there's some pros to that as well. I love post-college bars. I'm very thankful they're different. But it is like – it's definitely – I don't know.

I can't put my finger on it because like the bar I go to now, All The Time Factory, is like awesome. The vibe there is so great. The owners are so awesome. And like when I walk in, I feel bad i feel bad saying that postcard boys are sad because like when i walk in there i get happy and like yeah yeah like hi johnny how we doing lad and i'm like what's up boys where i don't know factory is like one of those like like when i think of that i think of like brother jimmy's or these bars oh no no it's definitely not one of those yeah no no bar and

that you go to post-college post-college bar right right yeah that's spot on um but i also feel like you know uh a post-college bar is a you know you can get a martini you can get a manhattan and not and not be like you know the the ironic asshole it's like you can just order what you want i mean i remember being at a point where it was like you get you know um a miller light a shot of jameson and like that's it you know what i mean and if you're anything else it was like you get you know um a miller light a shot of jameson and like that's it you know what i mean and if you're anything else it's like what are you doing you fucking asshole yeah now you go to a regular bar it's like you want to have some wine you want to have a cocktail you want to have this that that's okay you know it's a little like like there's more rules

but like less standards if you will um so i'm trying to think of what else is you know i also you know i remember like being in a college bar and dancing. You're not going to catch me dancing at a bar. Oh, I'll dance. Riding up on a girl. Oh, not like that. I dance like I'll dance in the street. I was dancing the whole way to work this morning.

But would you ever be like, I'm going to get on the dance floor at a bar right now? I would never do that. You could catch me on a dance floor. Yeah, I could catch you. Don't get me wrong. I don't go to a bar that has one. But if I was at a bar, I might dance a little bit. I remember going to, like, Mad River, the place we used to do bartending competition and whatnot.

One time we went to Tony DiNapoli's, which is, like, a bridge and tunnel Italian restaurant, family style. Good for, like, kids who, like, our age who can age who can only afford $20 meals and get it all together. Anyway, we got one of those Magnum, not even Magnum, the novelty size bottles of wine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we asked if we could take it home with us. And they gave it to us. So we walk up to this bar with a 30-pound glass bottle of wine. And we're at Mad River.

And there's a dance floor. and we're in a circle, dancing and grinding on each other and shit, and holding the cup. It's the Stanley Cup. Just dumb things like that. That was a post-college life, but we were still doing dumb college kid things. But they both have their own value.

I'll definitely say that much. Yeah, for sure. It depends on what stage of life you're at if you go to a college bar now you'd be like oh god and if you're a college kid and you go to a fancy bar you'd be like get the fuck out of here but when you're in that stage in life they're awesome

they're exactly what you need just shout out to bars in general shout out to bars in general where would we be without bars I wrote a love letter to bars at the beginning of quarantine. Oh, yeah? Oh, yeah. I missed bars.

It's crazy. That was in April. I know, and it's still going basically. Still not back at it. Yeah. I mean I go to outside bars now, but I'm still – It's not the same. Still not been there.

Being able to get in like a dark, cold bar. God, you just gave me my nipples. Yeah. It's like we know what I'm doing here. I'm drying my sorrows. You still have to just hit my nipples. Yeah. It's like, we know what I'm doing here. I'm drying my sorrows. It's not to drown your sorrows outdoors. Yeah, you can only do happy drinking outdoors. You can't do sad drinking outdoors.

Absolutely. I want a cold bar, whiskey, and I'm talking about my ex-wife. When you're outside, it's like, hey, college football's starting. Let's have fun. You know, that kind of shit. All right, let's do our interviews. We'll start off with Liz Mealy, who is is this was an awesome interview she's the best she was as interesting as she was funny i love interviews where they they ask their own questions and they run with it and

they bring their own thoughts to the table and liz for sure did that she has her new special out called self help me um she's a she's a girl i've followed on on instagram for a while watching her work and i feel like i've seen like i love watching these comics uh like she's like making it you know like when i first found her like i don't think she was doing much and now she's got a special and she's touring the world and it's cool she tours a lot a lot man like it's not a focal point of her special her specials on the road all the time but there's like a bit where she's like she's been like in europe like three months yeah yeah she did like a world tour which is fucking wild so uh liz mealy let's talk to her hi hey what's up how's it going good how are you

i'm good i'm in a closet no judges i mean well closet isn't even like the top 10 weirdest place you're gonna say someone do an interview you are talking to the least judgmental podcast in the world yeah it's it's it's how me and my boyfriend are surviving the pandemic and not uh killing each other is uh I take a lot of calls and now I do a lot of shows and podcasts in my I'm I mean I'm a really tiny person so this is probably one of my biggest uh rooms uh that I that is like a hole in the wall that you're in that's a good that's a city closet is what that is yeah no this is i mean there's actually genuinely a lot of space i have a light in here he bought me a light um i don't want to brag about my relationship he's dead wow but i have i have a circle light like i'm an influencer so i'm a pretty big deal

how is this just sounds like an abusive relationship i'm like i take calls in the closet i swear i can walk out whenever i want like don't ask me to prove it no i just i prefer to be in a tiny space by myself. I like it here. He even feeds me. I just left home. I've been staying with my parents for like most of quarantine. And I just finally left and came back to New York. I was like, it's a bigger house. And there's a lot of people around.

And I was like, I'd rather be in my shoebox alone. 100% the same. I like to be condensed. What's the word i'm looking for here compressed compressed there it is i like people like lay on top of me and i like my buildings do that too john has uh i think what 45 pounds of gravity blanket yeah 45 pounds liz i was about to say you sound like somebody that like because like my brother so my my brother's a clearly a bigger person than me and i slept over over and he was like, you need to try this blanket.

And I go, Sam, I think I'm dying. Like, you don't understand. Like, I think I like 45 pounds is like almost half my weight. And he was like, no, I like it. I feel safe. And I go, I feel like I'm about to be murdered. And I can't, and like, it was like hurt and I sleep on my side. So I was like this whole side, just, I was like, I can't do it. I literally was like, I sleep on my side so I was like this whole side just I was like

I can't do I literally was like I it caused me twice as much anxiety I've always been a side sleeper but I've become

a vampire with it you just cross the arms you pull it back you cross the arms it's like it's like you're in a coffin it's fucking beautiful we are so weird

yeah speaking of do you watch um um crap uh what we do in the shadows no what's that you know i don't even know it's a oh my god it's so fucking good so sorry to bring up a show but like um uh tiki whatever he did jojo rabbit he did thor ragnarok so he made a yeah whatever his name is

he's i think he's brilliant and i probably should learn his name. But he did a great movie called Hunt for the Wilder People, which has become, like, my favorite movie. But he also did a movie called What We Do in the Shadows, and FX turned it into a show. And it's about three vampire roommates, and it's so fucking good. Dude, I've heard that. It's so weird. I totally forgot about it.

It's so weird. And I've heard about that from people who, like, I trust with their TV. Is it a comedy? Yeah, it's a comedy. It's so weird. I've heard about that from people who I trust with their TV show. Is it a comedy? Yeah, it's a comedy. Yeah, two seasons. It's probably my favorite show to the point where I'm trying to ration it so I don't flood through it. Oh, wow.

You have more self-control than I do. If I'm on a show, it's over in two days. Yeah, no. Part of me uses it like a treat. I'm just like, we can have just like we can have that we can have an ice cream sandwich and we can watch one episode like it's just how you have to handle that we both watched your special last night um self help me and uh i feel like you kind of it was i guess good timing in the sense that like you got it in right before everything because i know so many uh comics

either were about to film or couldn't and like having it out now during this time i feel like is uh as always kind of like a little bit of a bonus yeah no i mean it clearly none nothing is planned ever again like i just i i had aspirations of selling it and then everybody cut their budgets and like i mean people got downsized like so like all that stuff kind of went to shit pretty quickly. And then, um, I was kind of, in general, I was already holding onto some of that material because it was going to be on a special. So some of it, like I, the way I work is like, I need to kind of feel connected to it to tell it.

And then once I start to kind of not lose connection with it but once it stops being fun for me it's like okay this needs to go out and then I need to move on so to me to hold on to the world being better not only did I think the material wouldn't hit the same because of everything we've gone through but also I don't want to perform that material do anything else with it so it's kind of like there's a little bit of like kick the bird out of the bird nest feeling to it where it's just like it just needs to you need to go enjoy it for however you feel and i'll move on and i'll write new stuff so i in a lot of ways i was kind of like i can't hold on to this anymore and you guys seem um to not be able to leave the house so it feels like a perfect marriage.

Go enjoy it. I thought it was the most I've ever, like, you know, like, typically you relate more to a guy special just because life experiences. I think largely comedy is very similar, and anyone can relate to it. But yours in particular was probably the most I've ever related to, like, a female comics

from every aspect of it. From down to, down to the hair. Like the frizzy hair. I'm like, yeah, I get that. The oily face. I'm like, yeah. No, I know. I show up.

Look at my fucking face right now. I'm shining in this light. He did the same shit. He read that same article, I think, that said don't wash your hair, and he just stopped. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yo, I'm one of them.

He hasn't washed his hair in three years. But it is. I feel like every every curly haired person read that and they're like then i'm done i'm done i'm done i'm done i'm just not gonna do it because all my straight haired friends were literally like yeah i'll look like a homeless person like i'll look crazy and i go i'm gonna look that way regardless so i might as well take about five minutes out of my shower situation and just speed all this shit up but it is sorry i take all this stuff i read one article and then i'll take it to an extreme and if i don't get the results i'll read like two more articles and then pretend like i'm somehow an expert and then i'll start telling people people will be like oh your hair's so pretty i'll be like let me tell you what i do almost nothing i don't even need to read the article it's funny we make fun of old people on like facebook who just share all kinds of crazy

news and stuff like that i don't even need to see it in a news story like just one person and i'm like yeah just literally a person i like the idea that you overhear a conversation passing you and they're just like yeah avocados are actually poison and you're like it's poison i heard it that's it avocados are poison liz i still don't eat almonds because when i was like 17 trying to lose weight some guy in the gym told my dad that almonds make you hungrier i haven't had an almond since 2005 i like it i like it. I like it. I want to share all my crazy ideas with you so that I feel like I have authority.

And I'll be like, John believes me. That's all that matters. What it comes down to is it's a severe lack of self-confidence. Like, alright, anyone else that says anything, I believe them over me. You're all smarter than me, so yeah, that makes sense. Oh, man. How long? I'm gonna have muscles. You're all smarter than me, so yeah, it makes sense. Oh, man. How long?

I got to have muscles. I want muscles. He says, big men say almonds bad. Almonds bad. Where are you originally from? Are you a New Yorker? Jersey. Jersey.

Yeah. You're from the area. I didn't move far. Because that's what resonated with not just the special, but all of your work that I've seen. You capture the New York lifestyle and mentality so well. And it's a bad one. It's a horrible life. Yeah, no.

I don't want anybody to be this way. It's torture. I've lost so many friends. I don't know why. I've said this a million times. I don't know why I live here anymore. I don't know why I do it to myself, but at the same time, I'm also never going to leave. And I know that. So just, it's like a weird self punishment thing. Do you, so did you grow up in New York? Like where did you, okay. Do you find, like, I find both my personality when I go to the West Coast and also my stand-up, there's a little bit of a disconnect.

So, like, I have, like, an old kind of story. I did a podcast where it was, like, bomb stories, and I compared stage bombs to life bombs. And a life bomb is really just trying to make a connection with somebody in the real world and they look at you like you're crazy or they don't laugh so I have this kind of story and I'll give you like the brief version but I drove my sister my sister moved to LA about five years ago and we drove her and her cat cross country and we stopped in Albuquerque because we watched too many Looney Tunes and he always said he made a wrong turn in Albuquerque so we're like we should go figure out what that is so we went and like we're girls so we like went into like places to get like to see if we could get our nails done or like whatever and so and she hadn't seen her boyfriend in a while

so we go into this nail salon to be like hey do you take walk-ins and they're like oh no we're completely booked up and i was like what if i murdered one of them like i just made this kind of like silly aggressive joke and they looked at me like i was crazy and i was like oh no i was like no just a couple of them we just want to get our nails done and like they looked at and they and literally my sister's like dragging me out of the store because these people look horrified and i'm like and literally i was i just got crazy i was like okay well your whole family like i'm just being because i just because when i bomb i just want to i want to set fire to everything she's embarrassed she gets it because my sister's the same aggressive person but like i bombed then i tried to save it and i bombed again and then i was like fucking

let's give these people a story like and that's and that's kind of like my personality and i know i'm aggressive i'm very aware of it and so like I do my best to mute it in like professional situations but like sometimes I'm just fully myself and it's like that situation and it's too much for people even like a couple of my high school friends they've gotten into like charity and like real people stuff and they've kind of muted who they are a little bit to survive. And I haven't had to do that. So I said, I put some tweet and I made some comparison and I used the word cunt in it. And my friend was like, dude, what are you doing? And I was like, what? I didn't

call anybody a cunt. I just referenced the word. Like, what's the problem? It's the internet. Everybody knows I have a trash mouth. What, who am I muting this for? Who am I not? My mom says it. If my mom says it and she loves me, why can't somebody else love me and also say like, so there's this, like, I know it can be a problem in certain areas and I do struggle. There are some like West coast shows I've done where I'm like, Oh, I'm being too much me. And I don't know how to fix that anymore. Like when I was younger,

I had some of the skills to like, just kind of take back a little bit, but I've, I've sat in, you know what I mean? I've sat in this so long that I, I look at people's eyes and that's when I realize I'm trying to think of, um, oh, you know, when you're, you, you talk to somebody and you think you're connecting and then you find out they're crazy. And you like immediately like, I wish I didn't start this conversation. I've had people do that to me. And that's where it's heartbreaking. Like I was in, you know, before all this, I was like flying like every couple of days. And I was in line. And like, you know, it's a little bit of a buildup. And we're about to get on a plane. And it was, you know, that kind of, you know, rush to stop there. Like, Hey, we're closing the gate, dah, dah, dah. So we're like kind of rushing for the gate.

And I made some joke. I couldn't even tell you what it is. And the woman was just like, ha ha ha. And then I said something else. And, and I was just a little too aggressive. I must've said the word bitch, or again, like some buzzword that like, you shouldn't be saying probably in North Carolina. And she just, I saw her eyes and her body language just be like, I regret talking to this girl. Like immediately. And that's like, I'm so aware of that now that immediately like, oh, I'm too much for this.

This woman thinks I'm a crazy person and is doing everything she can with her body to no longer engage with me. And that's where I'll kind of. When do you, how do you know you're not a crazy person? I am a crazy person, but I'm aware. I'm very aware of it. And that's half of what my special is. It's all in my family.

I am an... But you know what I mean? The difference between aggressive and you're like... It's like if everybody looks at you like you're a crazy person, is that what makes you a crazy person? Or do you have to be actually crazy in your head? Well, there's, I also think you can, there's, you know, mental illness. Like there's like, I think as somebody that has a lot of it in their family and has their own issues with it, there is the point of no return. You know what I mean? There's, there's awareness of it and, and building up tools and or medication and therapy to,

to have a grasp on it and to know what's real and what's not real, what's appropriate and what's not appropriate. That's all of society. And then there's just the complete disconnect, which is either I'm crazy and I don't care how people feel about me and, or I'm crazy and I don't know I'm crazy. So I, in my family, that line is towed quite often. I have, I would say in my teens and twenties, I didn't, I was scared that that was true because I know my family history and I would, I would pull back excessively. So it would be like, you know, realizing people are pulling away and muting myself.

I shut down really easily. It's like a pretty awesome skill I have, which is I can – I'm reaching in the corner. Let me tell you what, Liz, I just don't even turn on. Always turned on. I don't shut down. I just don't boot up. Yeah, yeah.

But in certain situations, we all know that like, like you ever go to like a party or like you're in a friend group and you just kind of like, you just say the wrong thing and they just keep shitting on you and you're like, I can't handle this. Like I emotionally, I'm either going to scream at somebody or I'm going to cry and neither of those are acceptable. So I'm just going to, I'm going to leave my body. I'm going to physically be here, but I'm not going to emotionally be present. It is absolutely a skill of mine. Like people will

be like, Oh, it's, are you upset? And I'd be like, not at all. And they'll be like, what are you thinking about? I'm like, nothing. Like I know how to like, and don't get me wrong. It's like a way to avoid your feelings and I don't recommend it. But, but in a situation, like in an office where you can't do either of those, it's a great way to survive. Oh, yeah. See, I disagree with the not recommending it because, like, look at us. Look where we are. Oh, yeah.

We're in closets and we're fucking depressed. No big deal. We're doing fantastic, I think. If you had told Liz 15 years ago, like, hey, if you just shut down whenever you're a little bit sad, eventually'll have a special lot with like 200 000 views now at least you'd be like i'll take that that's a good trade that's that's controlled so like in my mind you know i i definitely was a bottle up and and like i some of my earlier stuff i talk about having meltdowns and like certain people have seen them and certain people haven't so some people have only heard me talk about my meltdowns and some people have been present for my meltdowns and

there's a friendship shift when somebody sees you have a meltdown and so like i have this old joke i'm probably gonna butcher it but i go have you ever had a meltdown so bad you have to become friends with the person that saw it you know what i mean you're in a circle now you have to ride this out together and that was written by one specific comic that saw me have a full meltdown and we he was like a peer like somebody i would see and we would be friendly and he saw me have a full meltdown and i am so nice to him i mean so nice what are we talking about like was it a anger outburst a sad outburst or what what i was crying and screaming just being like fuck this business

fuck everybody in it fuck it like just like but like almost like true either like it would be a combination of only your best friend was watching it slash nobody was seeing it and that's how like a girl and like who knows what the fuck i said it's just like it's that inability to mute yourself and that inability to understand your surround like my mom used to do it like this, this, the world, the world is too much for you. All your feelings are too much and you, you let it out. There's no, it's not a choice. You're not like, I'm going to have a meltdown and a whole foods. It's just like, this is,

this is where it's happening, everybody. So therapy, therapy, and like reading and all this other stuff has and and has helped me control those and I don't have as many and and and also being able just to express myself naturally so I would say like stage Liz is in some ways unmuted but it's also um controlled because it's on stage and it's understood as opposed to like an earlier version of me was like, all my jokes were written about regret. And now all these jokes are written about, um, um, uh, who I'm containing, if that makes sense. Yeah. So like

one was written about a girl that did this and she's embarrassed. And now this is written about a girl that's, that's controlled almost her crazy a little bit. Like, even like I, you know, I have that joke about the CVS line and the woman asking to cut in line and, and, and like, that is a fantasy flip out. I didn't do it. Old Liz would have done it. New Liz is in her head. Like I was writing that down in line because I was so mad at this woman. And I was like the audacity to both ask to cut in line and then tell me about your dead mom's friend like i'm like i need to listen to you like so that's the difference is like old liz would have been like

are you fucking nuts like you're asking too many favors and new liz is like oh my god i i would i would think this you know what i mean it's like almost a little bit like controlling my power i'm not saying i'm perfect at it no but i i think it's like a superpower like there are times where i feel like i almost i kind of like scare myself where it's like i can tell these people what they need to hear i can put on the show that they need to see and it's it's all a fucking lie but i can do it like so easily that I'm like, Oh yikes. I don't know if this is healthy or right or normal. Am I a pathological liar? Am I, I don't know what I am.

Yeah. Like my, my, my, my friend Maria, I have a podcast with her. She's probably known me the longest and seen me in both good and bad situations. And she knows who I viscerally hate. Like just, it's a handful of people, but just people that I cannot stand. I'm actually, I'm pretty good. I can justify and be like, this isn't about me. But there's some people where I'm like, you're a bad person and I don't like you. And I I'm going to be mad, but I'm not a, like, I don't spread rumors. I don't, I just, it's,

it's really just a burden to the friend. I have that name comes up. I will tell you for 20 minutes, how much I hope they die. So my friend knows the handful of people I don't like, and she'll see me interact with them. And she goes, dude, it sometimes creeps me out how good you are at just shutting down and just being a kind person to the point where I wonder if you even like me. Like, you know what I mean? It's like wondering, like, you know, when like an actor is really good

and you're like, how do they have real relationships if they're that good at acting? Like, how do you really know if they care? And I have a little bit of that because I, in my mind, just because I don't like somebody for whatever reason, unless they're really like truly hurting somebody and somebody's in danger,

is it really my place to be hurtful to them or mean to them or what have you? So a part of me is like, unless this, if this is mostly, and I'm very much aware that when you don't like something, somebody, it often has a reflection of you or a reflection of your past. Like I had somebody trigger me the other day and I was like, Oh, they talk to me like my dad does. And I don't like that. And I was like, and that is, I was like, I don't like that at all. Like I called up my little sister, my little sister, I kind of went dark and I didn't, I didn't post anything. I wasn't returning text messages and I just kind of shut down a little bit. And my sister calls me and she goes, are you okay? And I go, yeah, she's like, you haven't posted like a cat picture or returned my text messages. And I'm just a little worried about you. And I was like, dude, I'm

totally fine. But I was in front of the person that was triggering me. So then I texted her and I was like, I'm not okay. And she's like, I knew it fucking knew it. So I called her up yesterday and she's like, what's going on? And I was like, somebody fucking talked to me like dad. And I just, it took everything inside my power, not to fucking cry or yell. And I just had to kind of shut down. And she's like oh my god tell me everything but i i know how to control it but it doesn't mean that like like i said that shutting

down thing is when it can't be great it also can be helpful where it's just like don't be yourself don't be yourself just because i don't that person doesn't deserve to feel how i feel because they don't know they're not doing this to me they just happen to be reflecting something that is really heartbreaking and hard for me right I think it's like you don't get to be yourself all the time these people who don't do these things who do you think you are that you can just be yourself around everybody else when you when you meet someone who's like that like I just speak my mind like that's just me like what are you a child that's exhausting you think you are you think you're so you think when you become an adult you're gonna speak your mind all the time you're wrong that's

not what happens no i completely agree you do need to grow up this idea that you're like i'm just i'm just speaking the truth who gave you that option who told you they wanted that like that's where like and that's where i feel really grateful that I do have this outlet that I can tell that I can tell jokes, and I can showcase this part of me that is authentic. And I always say like, my stand up is like a polished, delayed version of me, because I get to say exactly what I want to say that I might have not have been able to say, or I'm able to phrase it in a way and and showcase it in a way that makes me understand why i felt the way i felt which isn't when i'm triggered isn't always there like i always joke that like the first version of a joke is go fuck yourself i hope you fucking die like i

get this very like guido like but then the then i i polished the joke over three months and it's just a very smart and really thoughtful and it's a little biting, but it's also really clever. And that's not who I am. It's there. It's there. It just takes three months to get there. See, that's the difference. Like we don't, we don't write our material. We're just podcasting and blogging. It's a new day every time. So I don't ever get asked to go fuck yourself. I hope you fucking die. It's just that every time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Every time.

Yeah, no. I'm just telling you there's another side where people think you're really smart. And I'm sorry you can't get there. I mean, that seems sad. It's a lot of work. I'll be honest. It's a lot of work. That's awesome, though.

That's incredible. I mean, that's like, that's where I think we should all strive to get to. It's like, take some time, refine this a little bit, and don't just be a go-fuck-yourself-die-every-single-day person. That's it. It basically is like, take a deep breath before, it's the extreme version of take a deep breath before replying. Yes. Oh, yeah, I take a three-month breath.

And then I hope somebody forwards my joke to that person. It's like Chappelle's cigarette drag. Before he does a big line, he always does a perfect drag. The best one he ever did was on Inside the Actor's Studio when he's talking about the celebrity industry. He's talking about Mariah Carey going into rehab or therapy, and then he's talking about Eddie Murphy, I think it was, running the streets, being like, they are trying to kill me.

And he's like, who did he say? No one gets to this stage that isn't fucking strong. It's like, no one gets to sit here that isn't strong. So was it them? Maybe this industry's just fucked up. I was like, oh, Chappelle, you fucking crushed that. maybe this industry is just fucked up. I was like, Oh,

Chappelle, you fucking crushed that. Maybe you want to start smoking. I'm 12. Yeah. And I think if I smoked, I wouldn't be in this closet right now. I think we've really learned a lot.

What's your favorite part of your special um honestly uh it's not labeled a miscarriage joke but it is my miscarriage joke so good i was gonna say that was the one while we're talking about the three months that was the one we were like that one took a long time to refine yeah right well what's what's interesting about it is i did say that to my friend like that's a hundred percent what I said in the moment. And we've been friends since we were 14. So she has a really dark sense of humor. And all that stuff is pretty much true.

And it just came out. And this is the thing is that that filter is a little broken. So I say things and I'm grateful that like my sister gets me and my friends get me. And even if I miss the mark, they're still going to love me. So even though that actually happened and that phrasing came out exactly how it was, the shaping of it so that people were on my side when I finally say it took work. And so I had to, I had to, um, just kind of like keep moving it and pushing it and changing. Like, I, I remember the beginning, it was at the end and the end was at the beginning.

Like I had to do so much reframing so that I was like, there's definitely people that think I'm a monster, but people understood that this was okay. This was a joke between us and that I'm not, not that I don't believe it, but like, they understood the character or who I am as a person that it's a joke, if that makes sense. For sure. I mean, that means everything. Yeah, because I would never like, I'll say this, the people, I've had people flat out in the comments go, I love this, but I hate the abortion jokes or everything was great except for these abortion jokes. And I go, I go, that's, I go,

thank you so much for being able to see past something you're uncomfortable with. And I'm never going to tell people they don't, they can't be uncomfortable. But I'm never going to mute how I feel about stuff. And I'm never not going to joke about things that are taboo because I think the more you talk about them in any frame, good or bad, I think even people that say things shitty, there's value to it because you learn from it and you viscerally go, I don't like the way they're saying that. And I'm, I'm going to do what I can to be the other side of it. But the more you talk about something, the more it gets discussed and the more people understand it. And it's not this deep, dark cloud that we're hiding from people. And so I know there's both men and women that

are uncomfortable with certain topics in the way I talk about things, but I think it should be talked about. I, so that almost bothers me more when they single something out because it's like, you're going to get mad about the one thing that triggers you. You like nine, nine jokes, but the 10th one bothers you and you're, you're entitled to it, but it's also like, absolutely recognize that, you know, another joke that you love might trigger someone else. And that that's why you can't play like favorites like that. Absolutely. And I'm aware of it. I don't want to ever hurt people. And I definitely know I've missed the market in certain places.

And I always try to assess that. But for me, it's like I'm I'm trying to make light of stuff in my life that can cause pain or stuff in my life that has a visceral reaction. So my friend who was very excited to be pregnant has this miscarriage. She's devastated. And in my mind, I went for the most relatable thing I could say. And it was trivial. And I, I, and it there's, to me, there's something really funny about two people that love each other that are just in completely different spaces trying to connect. And how often does that happen? You know, my mom has shared stuff with me and I go, there's no way in my life that I could ever understand your pain. So I'm going to make a weird joke to just kind of release the tension a

little bit so that you know that I'm listening and I care and that's always been my defense mechanism and I fight a lot with people in the sense that people go you can't you can joke about everything but this and I go hey joking isn't a topic by topic basis it is actually a reaction it's a defense mechanism I'm not going to pretend in any way that that it's a mature way of handling things, but it is a way of handling things. And if me and my family were able to get through really difficult times by breaking the tension with laughter, and that's what made us the people we are, and we're lovable, empathetic, kind, and loyal in a lot of ways, then how is this a bad coping mechanism? And I'm not saying people that listen to sad music or people that bottle

things up or people that don't talk about it are doing it wrong, but, but this is the way I handle it. And there's a lot of people that like handling their pain that way. Don't take that away from them just because it makes you uncomfortable. And that's really all I'm ever fighting for. That was beautiful. That was fucking poetry. I've been trying to articulate that for 11 fucking years.

Well done. Well done. That was incredible. I also, my favorite part of your special is just, it's like one line, but that's often what I find that I take away most from. Everything else sucks, but this one line. It was the abortion ones. Yeah, yeah.

But when you're characterizing your drug use as I eat random shit off the floor that I found. Like, that is so funny to me that, like, that is just a whole new way to describe like, recreational or medicating drug use that I think is so fucking

funny. Like, oh you you party like i eat fucking pills off the floor it's holy i take floor drugs which is like and you know what and this is like this is the one thing like i talk about being dyslexic and like the pros and cons a lot because i have i did a 20 minute like um conference talk that got put online by these people they wrote this book called the dyslexic advantage. And so they wanted me to do like a talk about my career and how I kind of persevered and, and what are the benefits of being dyslexic as opposed to everybody talking about the fact that you suck at reading and spelling and all this other stuff. And so a lot

of people will see that first and then come back and be like, oh, my God, like this is all the work that you do to get here. And one of the things I like about my brain is that I'll take pieces from different places and I'll put them together, whether it's completely different situations and I smash them together and or I'll have a conversation with my brother, which is pretty much where that joke came from. And I'll take it from and I'll put it with an experience. So I remember and I don't do drugs anymore. I mean, that's not true. This pandemic really changed a lot of stuff. But, you know, you spend four months inside a closet and you're just like, I think drugs are the answer. But I don't I'm I very much don't do them very often. And even at this time that I'm going to speak of, like me and my brother, my brother was staying with me. He wasn't doing great. And we were walking down the street and he finds a pill bottle and he's like, oh, what do you think this is? And I go, I go, what? And he goes, you're going to pretend like you never took like floor drugs.

And I go, no, you're right. I actually did it. Like, it's so funny, even though we're about 10 years apart, I had a whole phase where I was the same person he was where you see it and you go, life kind of sucks. I'll do whatever, like why what's wrong with taking this risk. And so it was this silly conversation where he's like, what do you think is this? And I go, I don't know, man, do you need better blood pressure? Like it was a silly conversation we had and then I got a prompt I was doing this show for Comedy Central and one of the topics was drugs so I started it made me actually start thinking about all my drug history so I took this old memory from like three years ago and I took these other memories from when I did do drugs and I was

able to kind of put it together and really show who I was when I did do drugs, which is I just I wanted to just I would do anything to not feel. And then eventually it hurt me. So around, I would say, 23, I started having panic attacks every time I did any kind of drugs. Pot was mostly what I did, but I would take a bunch of pharmaceuticals and did a lot of weird stuff people handed to me. And I would always have a panic attack. And it took me about two years to be like, this isn't fun anymore. Like I took two years to be like, this isn't like it used to be helpful. And now it's the worst time yet. I keep doing it. And I like, I like the way my brain works is like, how do I, how do I show people who I was so that they understand how I

got to where I am in the shortest amount, amount of time possible. Cause as you can tell, I'm very long winded when I don't edit. I like it though. Yeah. But it's true. Like floor drugs can just like two words can like sum up an entire era of your life. And people are like, and everybody has that friend. I, me and my family, I've really noticed this. We are like, we're like little lapdogs in the sense that like my brother will be like, Hey, do you want to go to Wawa with me? And I'll be like, yeah. Or my roommate will be like, Hey, I'm going to go grocery shopping. Do you want to come? And most people would be like, why would you come? And you'd be like, I don't know. It's a 10 minute walk. I'll pick up some milk. And yeah. So we

are, our personality is like, yeah, I'll do that. And now look at teenage Liz who's sad and they're like, hey, do you want to do these weird drugs? Yeah, sure. I'll go on a journey with you. It's like the ultimate go with the flow. But I am though. So it was like, this was like, yeah, I want to be high with you. And now it's like, yeah, I want to go get a soda with you.

It's Tamer. I'm in my 30s. That's growth. I'm in my 30s that's growth well i mean the special i'm an adult now the special is awesome uh i wish you got a chance to sell it like you intended really really really i texted my girlfriend like 20 minutes into it i was like you gotta turn this on this is really fucking funny so uh congrats on that and keep up the good work and let us know anytime you want to come on, promote or just chat and keep it up. All right.

Yeah. Thanks for having me, guys. I really appreciate it. Thank you so much. Bye. I don't know. I mean, a lot of times people say like, oh, that could be the third chair on KSR Radio. Like Liz would be like the first chair.

We'd all get bumped down. Because she's everything that we like say and do, except she knows it. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like she knows why she acts the way. No, but she's like that we say and do except she knows it. You know what I mean? Yeah. She knows why she acts the way. No, but she's like – I think she – I think that's honestly my best skill as a person. That you know –

I know when things are wrong and why I'm doing things. But that's also a – I think it's like a double-edged sword where it's like I would rather be one of these people who's like totally ignorance is bliss than be someone who knows why I'm fucked up. But either a I don't know how to fix it or B I don't want to put in the work to fix it. Because now it's just like I'm just sitting in my own filth, aware of my own shortcomings and unable to fix them. I'm actually surprised that everyone's not like that. I know. My girlfriend and therapist both give me credit. They're like, well, you know when things are going wrong i hate that everyone does i i know i hear that all the

time and it's like oh yeah like you hit the nail on the head like you don't need me i'm like i do need you because i need you to tell me how to fix it well i can't do that i'm like well then what are you good for i'm just telling you things that you already know that i already know right it's a waste of my money and time but i i like the people who are like oh are blissfully arrogant or blissfully unaware or don't know what that they're they even have shortcomings that's great i would love that versus that would be i know my shortcomings but i can't fix them yeah it's a tough spot to live it's a tough spot to live our existence in a nutshell all right now let's talk to Brent Terhune.

I interviewed Brent. If you know him from – Yeah, this is a surprise interview even for me. Yeah, this is – I had interviewed him thinking I was going to put it on MailTime, but then I've been talking about murder on MailTime a lot, so it would be tough for me to be like, hey, and how about this funny guy? So we're putting it over here on KFC Radio where he probably belongs anyway. Brent has made, in my opinion, I think the funniest videos on social media during quarantine i mean all every single one he does one a week

and they are all like mega viral hits where he's making fun of the uh like the maga bros and people on the right are like fuck yeah brother not realizing that he's mocking them people on the left are being like you are a fucking trash idiot not realizing that he's on their side uh but he's he's not just like it's not just like political satire where he's not he's not on either side he's just like i'm you know pointing things out uh through comedy which is i think what we all do so uh uh brent terhune from indy indianapolis by the way is like the secret little pocket of funny people people love indy wild i mean a lot of good talent coming out of there.

So Brent, let's talk to him. All right, let's get right into it. I have a guest on the show today who is putting out what I believe to be the funniest videos on social media right now. Comedian Brent Terhunes on with me live from Indy. And your political commentary videos, I think, have been legit the funniest thing on the Internet. I mean, you're like six for six, five for five right now. I've heard you just hit after hit after hit.

Yeah. If I don't put one out every week, every week it's fine. There's enough material, of course, to put one out. So if I take my time to perfect the beat, as I think Snoop Dogg said, yeah, I just try to take my time and come up with a good argument. And with these videos, you got to always have a contradiction. You got to say one thing, say it one way, and then mean the complete opposite. So yeah's it's been a fun writing exercise to get some criteria that i didn't know i had yesterday and then try to make that funny i mean

there's no shortage when you say like if you're real i i always kind of have this irrational fear uh just on the internet in general where i'm like today's the day i'm gonna wake up and there's just not gonna be anything for me to blog about or podcast about. Well, it's just going to run dry eventually. It just never fucking happens. No, especially now. It's like there's like every three days, there's like a new thing that happens. So you got to like comment on it now or in three days, there's going to be a new thing.

And what I'm talking about now is old. Right, right. be a new thing and what i'm talking about now is old right right so uh for the people who don't know brent has been doing these um satirical videos that is like the quintessential make america great again hillbilly ignorant you know moron when it comes to protests and statues and nascar and uh jobs gay uh looneyunes losing their guns, stuff like that. And pretty much any time if you would see a guy ranting in his truck about that, that's what I'm talking about. Now, is it and the beauty of it is it goes whoosh over a lot of people's heads. I mean, yeah, I admit when I first like watched the first video, the first like 10 seconds, I was like, all right, let's see what this idiot's got to say.

And then I very, very quickly realized what was going on and loved it. There are people who watch this for like minutes, like three minutes, and at the end are still thinking you are this like Trump conservative lunatic. Two questions. One, does that surprise you or did you expect that for people to really take you down seriously and two what does it feel like knowing that you have the look that that everybody can believe it uh well initially when i first made the first one a couple years ago i i thought it was so clear what i was doing that I was like, nobody's ever going to fall for this. And then I kept getting like comments and I was like, and I would,

then I would come and be like, no, it's a joke. But then eventually you get some money. Yeah. You can't, well, you can't even keep up with that. And then, you know, at first, like the headlines were like redneck slams NFL, because that's what you see on all the other videos. It would be something slams something.

So I just did that, and then I stopped saying Redneck, and the people would be like, this guy's a funny Redneck. I'm like, oh, it's good to know. If you ever wanted to know anything about yourself, just post a video on the internet, and they will let you know. So apparently that's what because you know i'm in i'm from indianapolis so if i go north people are always like oh you're from the south but if i go from if i go south or i was like you're you sound like a yankee so it's like i

guess i'm ambiguously midwestern i guess well i mean honestly is that not uh literally and figuratively the best way to be like i, I can't believe how few people, well, or at least, you know, I hope it's probably more of a silent majority, but how few people out here are just in the middle. It's staggering to me. It's nuts that, and as a comic, you know, you're making fun of that side,

but I'd imagine you can find the humor in some of the incompetence on the left. And like, it's all bad. It's all terrible. Yeah. Especially with, with humor, you know, you can't really lie with a joke. Either a joke is funny or not. So, you know, that's where the truth comes from.

And especially on either side, I mean, you, you get some people like both sides will watch it and not get it and you realize that like it's so tense right now that sometimes people were going to have that um that opinion from the jump before they even hit play and i'll have a lot of people be like i didn't even hit the sound i could just watch this guy and know what he thought and then we're like that's kind of the point. That's the point. Yeah, yeah. It's the glasses, the beard, the hat, the beard, the truck. That doesn't necessarily mean, you know, everything that you think.

That's why it's funny on the surface. It's funny a couple of layers deep. And it's brilliant, you know, 10 layers deep. I really tip my cap to you. Did you know? I didn't realize that you had made them a couple years ago running now. Yeah. Recently that it's really blown up or has this been your thing for a while

now? It's, it's really blown up recently. And I could, you know, with quarantine, how I made a living was working the road as a standup. And then obviously that's not happening maybe for the rest of the year, who knows, but I just tried to use the time wisely. So, and especially if you're not driving five hours to a gig that's an extra five that i got to do something with yeah so i was just trying to create as much as possible but also not wear out my welcome at the same time yeah i think that you know the frequency you're doing it right now is perfect because i still get

excited when i see one pop up. And I know what it's going to be, but you still have – like I love the hits. I love the I don't think so, and I love it, but I digest. You have your hit, but you always play. But whatever the topic is going to be or whatever the nuance and details are always change. And, I mean, it's like my favorite running thing right now. I'm like waiting with bated breathed video thanks man how is uh how you know you mentioned not being able to go on the road uh you know how long have you been a comic and like what have you i mean obviously this stuff but

what else have you been doing to try to uh keep up with you know the way the world has just been fucked uh i've been doing stand-up for like 14 years. I guess October will be 15. Yeah, so I started young when I was 16. I started in my high school. Yeah, so they would, you know. What drives me crazy is I'm a blogger, a podcaster. We do live shows, but it's not stand-up. But I love it.

I love stand-up, and I would love to dip my toe. I'm 35 now, though, and it's like everyone I talk to is always like, well, I started when I was four, and I've been doing it for 30 years. It's a tough – it's a great thing to get in on early. You know, but the quintessential example is always Dangerfield. I don't know. I think he was – he quit and then went and sold Siding and had a bag of jokes that he would write,

and then he came back at 55 or whatever, but you know, that, that is a rare exception, but it does happen. But I, you know, I've been performing, you know, whether and I would host the battle of the bands and the talent show in high school that kind of thing. And then, you know, in 2012, I finished college and I was like, I could get a real job or I could try to make this work and, you know, full-time air quotes. And so far so good. Were you always political or is that a new,

you know, it's like the way the world went where you almost, I feel like we at Barstool tried to always stay out of it. And it got to the point where it's just like, you can't, I mean, it took over the internet. So if you're going to be, and up with the times, you almost can't not be political. Yeah, it was never really political. And to me, those videos are more about, it just so happens the subject matter is political, but it's more about a Trump supporter. Those guys that will wear figuratively and literally wear a jersey of a political candidate. And then you're seeing how far they're going to go every video

because he'll say something, and you'll be like, no, well, that's where he's going to lose them, but he never does. That's the thing. And it's more of a commentary to me on that culture of the truck rant culture. Now I follow all these pages online of just these guys ranting in trucks because now it's inspiration to see what you're even talking about, you know? Oh, man.

How much do you think you get? Usually you retweet or quote tweet people who are saying you're stupid and you're exposing that person for being stupid. But I don't often see you uh like quote tweet people being like hell yeah brother is there just as much people who miss it in the right in the other direction i think so but then but then they're also i think then i think they just share it they don't even comment they just share because i do get people in the comment

section be like i shared this video and then my uncle shared it who would completely disagree. And then his three friends were talking about it. It's so weird how you can, it says something about comprehension in general, where you can watch a whole video and still not pick up on the things that I'm saying. It's a pretty heavy fucking sarcasm. You know what I mean?

Like sometimes it's subtle. Sometimes it's like, all right, we see what's going on here, but you've broke the system man you've unlocked it if you're getting like the the problem with political commentary comedy content whatever is you know you're usually going to alienate one side you found a way to get to get both and all with some people who get it some some people who don't. Everybody's sharing it for different reasons, but fuck it, it's getting

shared. Yeah, and it goes back to that thing. Sometimes the joke, there's no lie in the joke. You know, if you like, even in my regular act, I have this bit about have you ever noticed the more dirty dishes you have, the bigger the spoon you'll use?

That's the premise. And but that to me, that's a good joke. You know, one, I wrote it. Come on. But no, but it's also like everybody's been in that situation where you have a sink full of dishes and now you're eating with a ladle. And that's that's the truth that you can't get around of around, you know, and it's relatable. So that's the thing.

I try to bring that to the videos. But, you know, sometimes it's relatable. So that's the thing. I try to bring that to the videos, but you know, sometimes it's not always that, that, that case. So, but go ahead. Yeah. What will you expect when you are able to get back on the road? Do you think your crowd will have like shifted at all? Do you think you'll have, you know, more liberal, more conservative? Will, will people not even, you know,

do you think that there will be someone showing up to your show thinking those videos were like the wrong way you know what i mean like how they do that much maybe i don't know i've never had anybody come up and be like i didn't know you were not that you know as far as uh a guy who agreed with me i've had people come up because they didn't even know i do stand-up. That's the thing. Some people still don't. And they're like, we didn't know what you're going to do because up to this point, I've not even done that character live. My act is very not political. It's just about those types of jokes I just said, the dishes joke. The writing level is still there, but it's not political because you know if i'm in wichita kansas and maybe five people are there to see me the rest of the people

yeah won't know and my goal would be to have everybody leave the show and be like that was a great show not as opposed to the last five five minutes being like what was that what was that last that you know so so i'm trying to figure out a way to do that and not, you know, I don't want to offend anybody. I'm fine with that. But I'd rather have you have a good time at my show. I mean, this definitely feels like something that lives

online with maybe a quick reference or whatever on stage, but to make it like, I don't think there's a Larry the Cable Guy esque type of vibe for this, right? I mean that was never the goal, but then you're like, oh, how many mansions does that guy own? Yeah, yeah. You know what?

It might be worth it. It might be worth a shot. See how the people play, you know? What's the social – I mean you're up around – on Twitter you're up around 000 which is a solid that's a you know that's a great following uh yeah as what like what percentage of that is new from uh from these like this latest burst of virality i set a goal at the beginning of the quarantine because i think i was at 23 000 followers you gained 200,000 off of this holy shit I mean I'll be honest I think I saw you around like 150

and I was like oh shit that's a number that I should have been aware of you I keep up with all the comics shame but I didn't realize that you went from 23 to 223 that is fucking remarkable

and that kind of started because forever my my platform was facebook that's where i did really well but then i kind of change it up shorten the videos and then i did a couple i did one where garth brooks was wearing the barry sanders jersey but of course my guy was you Sanders. And then there was another one about Caitlin Bennett, if you're aware of that lady. Yeah. The human. I'm aware of her. Yeah, yeah.

We have a longstanding feud. If you look at her Twitter bio, I'm in there. I fucking despise her. Are you one of the haters she's monetized so far? Probably. Yep. Everybody always tells me that. Stop responding to her. Stop giving her the haters she's monetized so probably probably yep everybody's talking that stop stop responding to her stop giving her the attention she wants i'm like listen she's getting the attention one way or the other from her like radical base and i'm here to call it out as it is i can't stand that girl yeah so those are the first two that really hit on twitter um and that

was fun because in the garth brooks one I was like, I'm done with your CDs, Garth Brooks, and of course, I went to Goodwill and had a Titanic and a Kidz Bop, but you only notice in that moment when I'm throwing it out, so that's the stuff I love. If you really pay attention, you'll actually get it, you know, or you'll be like, this guy had a Kidz Bop CD, and they still don't get what I'm doing you know right i mean that's what i'm saying if you really have an eye for it it's it's even funnier than you probably initially thought i didn't realize the growth though i mean it's so is this uh you know is this you making it do you feel like this is i mean obviously it's a very important point in your career but do you think that it's, you know, upward and on from here?

I think so, and, you know, and I, when I look at the facts, I'm an, I'm a guy in Indianapolis who was working the road and still will work the road, but I'll be in the middle of nowhere sometime, and you never heard of that town. That, that's also making it, to me, if I can pay my bills doing stand-up, that's a win to me. But all this extra stuff is great too. So I have new goals that I would like to meet, but we'll see where it comes from. And I don't want to produce any bad content. I hate to even use that word content anymore. I'm trying to replace it in my vocabulary, but it's an easy catch-all,

but it makes me want to puke every time I hear it. Yeah, and I just want to do the stuff that I love, and I can for now. We'll see what happens. Have you linked up with, have you come across Pat McAfee at all? Do you guys have any sort of relation out there? He was with us for a little bit.

Now he's out on his own back in Indy. I feel like Indy is an interesting little hidden under... It's like a little hot spot. Pat was obviously from there. We got three-ish,

three or four people who came from there to Barstool. It feels like it's just like this little, little hidden, like comedic area. I don't know. I don't, I mean,

there's definitely funny people here for sure. And it's, it's just one of those things. I think the internet is definitely a game changer, you know, cause now, now I can, you know,

before 20 years ago, it had to be on the coast and, you know, realistically I probably should be now. But that's the situation that I'm in. But, yeah, with McAfee. So let me just interrupt you for a second. So we, in the beginning, Barstool tried to do, like, a satellite city format.

And Boston, New York, Philly, you know, we were all, like, the exact same guys, cut from the same cloth. We wanted to get out to Barstool, Lstool LA and we hired a dude from Indie. He was a standup comic from Indie. His name was Nick and he like had relocated to Barstool LA. And I think it, at least for our model, I think people were like a little confused by it. And the way that has moved, I think it's better to just be like, I'm the Indie guy from guy from indie and because you don't mean yeah yeah there's some benefits and some bigger clubs and eventually if you really make it you probably need to be there but i think in the beginning authenticity is way more important than being like i'm a transplant i left my roots i don't have a hometown i think it's better to just be the indie guy. Yeah, and now with the internet, you can find the niche

audience, but that'll be a million people. You know? Now you can't meet those people. And you can be, and that's what definitely with podcasting and stuff, you can talk about the movies that nobody has watched, but there's a

million nobody people that will listen to that. You know what I'm saying? And especially with quarantine, then you can find out what But there's a million nobody people that will listen to that. You know what I'm saying? Right. And especially with quarantine, then you can find out what job you can do remotely. And nobody really cares that this is you and me on a laptop and not face-to-face anymore. Honestly, you lose a little bit with chemistry and whatever. But for the most part, we've proven that this industry is completely virtual if you want it to be.

Thank fucking God because I don't know where I'd be if I was at work right now. But talk to me about the three pence moon shirt. Wait, how old are you? I'm 30. 30, right.

So I'm 35. I think anybody even remotely in our age range knows the three wolf moon. I don't know what the fuck it was. I don't know why it was a thing. But everybody our age knows those three wolves on the moon, and you took it and turned it into Pence,

and it seems to have kind of taken off a little bit. Yeah, I mean, it's been weird because now you can Google it and you'll find eight different sites selling that shirt which that's what you know that's when you know yeah it's it sucks because you know and now this it's a parody that i did but also like i'd like to be the guy that's selling it but it's weird it's that that three pence moon shooter shirt i think it took off on amazon where you know all these reviews i don't know why, but now I've gone to the zoo and you'll see there's the

turtle one and there's the polar bear one. I don't know. It's like if you ever go to a Walmart, that's kind of like a standard shirt that you see at a Walmart. Yeah, which I don't know what it is, whatever kind of art it is, but it is

kind of very artsy for a T-shirt. But I still really like it. And then I just took my pants and had them howling at the moon. It's like sometimes the most nonsensical, idiotic thing is what hits. I mean, we built an empire off of T-shirts. Like, dude, you can look down on T-shirts if you want. You know, we grew it into like a clothing line at this point but there was a long time where it was just funny slogan like ridiculous picture slap it on a shirt sell for 25 bucks and we kept the lights on that

shit well and the thing is people they like those shirts but also sometimes they just want to support you yeah so and like have a just like a conduit almost yeah so if that's their want to support you. Yeah. So have a, just like a conduit almost. Yeah. So if that's their way to help you besides downloading your stuff, people just want to support either way. So, and especially a road comic, I would tell anybody get something that you would like to sell that,

that you, you'll respect yourself to sell, but get something, man, you know, because somebody either way is going to want to sell, but get something, man, you know, because somebody either way is going to want to try to give you money, at least give them something back. The,

the podcast is called field trip. Yeah. And is it just, you know, kind of an array of things and you're, and you're working out your bits and stuff. I'm always curious for comics, if you use your podcast to work out material or if you take material and put

it into your podcast or is it kind of both? It's kind of neither. I guess eventually some of these will turn into, because the concept of field trip is it's topic based evergreen stuff. So if I, if I released an episode in October, you know, it's not time sensitive, so you can go back and listen to it. The one I just put out today was an episode about the blues brothers,

which was a followup to an episode called SNL movies. So that's, it's kind of a, you pick a topic and you do a deep dive on it. I've done parody religions. That's still probably one of my favorites. So you may have heard of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Yeah, ramen. Then you find out that they've created

this thing where they celebrate Passover and Ramadan and that kind of shit where you're like, somebody spent way too much time on this and now I'm learning about it. Funniest obituaries. They're standalone topics. If you don't like one, you can go to the

next one pretty easy. I feel like that's a great supply to have for what's going on with you right now. You gained 200,000 new followers and if your shit is all time sensitive, it's like you have a whole catalog that doesn't mean anything anymore. You find Brent now and you like him, you've got

an endless amount to go back and listen to. Way too much. Way too much. I hear that. Because before I did a wrestling podcast and that was like, are you going to go back and listen to it two months ago for an old storyline type thing? So now there are more evergreen wrestling topics as

far as worse wrestling gimmicks. I mean, I'm wearing a wrestling shirt right now. So I believe today is 24 years ago today, Hulk Hogan turns to the Wolfpack and went NWO. Oh, man. I mean, that's got to be that on your Mount Rushmore of wrestling moments. I think it could be. And, you know, that's always like debatable on what the biggest moments are. But definitely because that kind of ushered in, like, a, quote, reality era of wrestling.

And I'm a wrestling fan and I'm a horror fan. And those kind of go hand in hand as far as there was, scream which was very meta very uh reality based and then you had the nwo they're kind of self-reflective kind of thing so are you uh like you still keep up with it currently i feel i wasn't i was an attitude era guy and in my older age it just kind of like fizzled out for me but i yeah i really believe that the rock stone cold mankind kane undertaker the attitude dx the whole era, I think is – maybe this is crazy, but I think it's the best entertainment of all time. Like that era of week after week, pay-per-view after pay-per-view, the amount that they –

like the amount of quotes that came from it, the amount of schticks, the amount of gestures. I mean all of it was all from the WWF in that era. I think it's the best thing that's ever happened to me. You're not much older than I am, so it's part of that thing where probably you wanted to believe that it was real. Obviously, it's not, but as a kid, I'm like, oh, this is awesome.

Now, you look at wrestling, it's really generated some of the biggest stars in history. There's Hulk Hogan generated some of the biggest stars in history. There's Hulk Hogan, and now the biggest star probably ever is The Rock. You know, and John Cena will probably be in there somewhere, you know. But it's, and it's like there's no off-season for wrestling. So it's kind of that thing where you do get to look forward to it, but then at a certain point you get fatigued.

Right. So then now I will watch, but it's weird because there's no audiences. Yeah, very same dynamic now. Yeah, so then it's weird. It's how I consume all media is via podcast because I'm busy doing other stuff. Right.

Whether I'm in the car or something, you can listen to a recap of it, and I'm all caught up, but I didn't even have to turn the TV. Yeah, especially aside from a Mankind match or the Hardy Boys or something where you're really getting the spectacle, it was always all about the storylines to me. So if I could just get the gossip almost,

as long as I can keep up with that, I'll be hooked. And it's interesting that there's that element where you're a kid, but then I even think like like the stone cold schtick i think worked for adults because it was like uh you know fuck you to your boss and like fuck the corporation and the man and like i think that actually resonates more when you're older than when you're like a kid because you actually get it you're like oh yeah i've got a boss i want to fucking stun him through a table so it really i mean i know wrestling is always a weird thing where the people who don't like it look down on it and like you get offended by it being looked down upon. And I think it's better to just it's like the it's like politics.

Leave it out and just like enjoy it for what it's worth, which is just incredible entertainment. It's weird how caught up people will get in hating the thing that you like. If you just put that much effort into the things that you like, you'd be a lot happier. I'm known as like a hater at Barstool because I usually just skew. I'm a New Yorker. I have high standards for everything, movies and content. And I'm always – it's tough for me to like give a cosign out. But the amount that people get mad at me hating the thing they like it is i mean it's mind-boggling it's crazy i

basically made a career off of it but i guess i'm doing the same thing in a way so thank god for polarizing opinions well yeah that's what gets the view nobody wants a lukewarm it was okay you know right as long as they're not indifferent. But that's where I find I struggle a bit when I'm now old enough, been around long enough, and the world has changed enough where we got to talk about some real shit. And when I'm talking about movies and wrestling, girls, whatever, I'll be an asshole, I'll be edgy, I'll be a dick about it.

But now we're talking about some real shit, life and death and racism and causes. And it's like, well, I'm not, you know, I'm not going to be that guy when there's like real shit on the line. But people have come to expect that. It's hard to navigate. That's why I really commend you for the way you're doing it, where you're keeping it so humor based, while also making a point and it doesn't have to get serious and it doesn't have to be a fight because the last you know month or so for me has just been a shit storm where i feel like you have found a way to make that shit storm just like work to your benefit and everyone's benefit well and you know sometimes i'm genuinely angry about certain things so i'm able to take that and be mad but it's also it's not a put on, you know, about certain things. And then sometimes you, you don't even touch it in a video. You just post how you feel, you know, like you, like you have just said where you're like, yeah, you can talk about video and music and whatever.

But now sometimes you just got to like have somebody, there's no beating around the bush right make it as clear as possible so but i mean have you seen a movie recently that you you've really found met your standards i just watched hamilton which i expected to not like because once something's get gets hyped to the moon i go into it with the bar set at like a tent. And I'm not really a musical guy, so I don't even know if I could really have the eye for it. But I actually liked it. And that was like a big step for me where I was like, okay, I actually –

I like it, guys. Like people were like, oh, I thought you were going to hate it for sure. And I was like, no, this is pretty good. So that met my standards. I've been mostly TV shows. I haven't been doing movies recently. But like my main thing, like I hate The Godfather. I haven't been doing movies recently. But like my main thing, like I hate The Godfather. And, you know, people act like I killed their firstborn every

time I say I don't like The Godfather. What about The Godfather don't you like? I don't think I'm really into the mob the way that like The Sopranos is not like on the top of my list. That was one of my early quarantine rewatches, probably the fifth or sixth time. But again, it doesn't bother me if you don't like it. I definitely, I was intrigued by the ending and I,

and I can appreciate, I'm not saying it's a bad TV. I know it's well written and all that. It just, you know, it never grasped me. And now it's become a thing where it's like, now I'm going to dig my heels in.

Now I'm going to be – you know what I mean? Yeah. I get it. I just finished Breaking Bad again last night. The best. So it's weird that you like one and not the other. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, again, maybe it's the Italians.

I don't know. I'm an Irish guy. I'm a Mick. Maybe I just don't like the game. I'm not sure about it. But it never grabbed me the same way as Breaking Bad. I also feel like it depends on who you are when you watch it and who you watch it with and all that kind of shit.

And I think The Sopranos was just never the right time for me. Were you a Thrones guy? Dude, I tried to watch that a couple different times. And I just, I don't know know i like the lord of the rings and i don't i don't know if those are that similar but oh yeah i uh i don't know i just never got into and i kind of wish just for the conversation just so i could get all the memes yeah you know all that it is you know you dod dodge the bullet with how shitty it ended so everybody yeah i was in on the conversation but i was left so grossly dissatisfied i was just watching so i wish i was giving the sopranos a shot during that time yeah they botched that one and now it'll be the complete opposite of

what you had you had to build up and then it didn't deliver well it did for you for hamilton but the bar's been set so low for Game of Thrones that I might end up watching it and be like, you know what? It wasn't that bad, actually. True. If you go into it with an open mind and not expecting the greatest, maybe it has a whole different ending. I'm not sure.

Well, listen, dude, really appreciate it. I hope that it's just, you know, the rocket continues to the fucking moon. Very happy for your success. Thanks, man. Come on whenever you'd like. Keep up with the videos. Everybody go listen to Field Trip. Follow them on Twitter at Brent Terhune, T-E-R-H-U-N-E.

And congrats, man. It's an awesome thing to watch unfold. Thanks, man. I don't have a release date yet, but I have a new comedy album coming out this year sometime so it's recorded for new year's just takes me editing it and then that's all i gotta do so all right i'll be out later this year when that comes out when you're ready to drop it do some promo come on back on right cool man thank you have a good one dude see ya i've got some issues that nobody can see And all of these emotions are pouring out of me. I bring them to the life.

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