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Episode Date: November 9, 2023

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KFC flying solo today. Feidelberg was in Chicago. We were going to record after radio, after our interview, but I think our interview is going to go long. I got to get to martial arts. I got to see Keegan. He might be getting a new belt. So I decided I'm just going to do it solo early in the morning

and get it over before radio. That's the new life and the new schedule here at KFC Radio with the relaunch of martial radio. Kind of everything centers around that. We'll talk a little bit about... They also just tried to missed their first flight. Do you see the video of Jersey Jerry stuck in traffic? No.

They're in the same traffic. John quote tweeted and said, our twist is we think our driver might be drunk. So none of them made their flights home? No. So they're going to be coming in at... They've landed at LaGuardia at 1.30, so they'll be making it just in time for the interview oh wow okay we'll see i mean there's a ton of

traffic out there today i don't know what it is one of those days where it took like an hour and a half to get to work so we'll see what happens no it's it's never a dull moment i i am happy to have a solo episode because i i feel like i used to have the Kevin Clancy show regularly. And then we would do – every now and then I would have like a solo episode on KFC Radio. And it just hasn't happened in a long time. So I want to – I think your last one was when you just got the equity. Yeah, yeah. I did do that one.

Yeah, yeah. That was the last time. I mean that was a while ago now. It's like a therapy session. So I got some shit I got to get off my chest. I want to start with a story I started to tell on radio the other day, and then I clammed up real quick because I was like, this is live, and if I say anything wrong, I can't undo it.

And it's not technically my story, but it kind of is. But this story is fucking wild, and I feel like it's more appropriate for the KFC Radio listeners anyway. There's a lot of weird people. A lot of weird fans out there. And the weirdest thing is the duality of my life. I always joke with these guys. I'm like, it's so fucking weird that I have kids.

And everyone's always like, yes it is. Cause I have the whole life over here doing dad shit and living like suburban dad life. And then I have the circus over here and there's some fans in my town. That is where the crossover happens. And, uh, there's this one weird one right now and i've we've we've done some like snooping

and tracked it back to like starting years ago this guy started getting weird but most recently the other day i'll start with how the story was told to me the other day this chick uh who's who's Who's in our town in Westchester. Runs up on Caitlyn Shea and Keegan's mom. And says, do you know this guy? Do you know my boyfriend? And like, did you have a relationship with him? Did you say this? Did you text him that? And she's like literally like crying baby in her arms.

Coffee in her hand. You know, in her pajamas. hair undone, like just dropped the kids off at school. She's like, what the fuck are you talking about? This girl's like, do you know XYZ, this guy? And she's like, no, I don't know what you're talking about. And she's like, really? Really? Like you really don't know who he is? She's like, really, dude?

I don't know what you're talking about. And as the story goes, this woman, a single mom, was dating this guy. And he told her that he like had a relationship with Caitlyn. And that was, he was like, I guess either dating her, hooking up with her, and was like, you should see the crazy things she says to me and texts me, and I think was kind of implying that, like, she was, like, breaking up this woman and his relationship. Like, completely fabricated, though. Like, not even close.

It's not even like, oh, that was a guy that she had a history with, and he's just, like, taking poetic license, or he has his side of the story. Like, zero contact with this dude. Never, never met him, or so he thought. So, it's amazing what you can find on the internet because we knew from this woman telling us the story, we knew his name, his age, and his town. And he said he knew me and he knows Barstool, his name, age, name, town. We knew he had red hair.

We knew his color of hair. And if you just start snooping, you can find fucking anything. We just entered a first name, an age, and a town. And like instantly a listing, like a few listings of that name pops up in our town. And then there's just one that's a nearby street in the neighborhood, like near their house. So we were like, oh, it's probably this guy. And we knew – so then we just had his last name, and we put that into – we searched that. Oh, we found – he went to the college he went to.

So then we searched that, and that pops up on Facebook. And then we had a first and last name and then i searched that on instagram and it was somebody who follows me and her and fit the description lives in the right town all the pictures checked out and it was like boom we found this and it's just like I can scroll up, just like constantly DMing me, replying to my stories. Nothing weird, but just like a lot of DMs of just like over the last few years.

Actually, very positive stuff, but like being a weird fan. And then she goes into her DMs, and a few years ago, I don't even know if i told this story i might have told this story or not we met a like a block party and he he came up and was like hey i'm a fan can i take a picture and it was all normal and then he just like kept going a little too long and i was like that was weird but that happens like all the time i was just kind of like i don't

know whatever that happens once a live show yeah like that that's not a big deal but that same dude then dm'd her this is again years ago and said i saw you running today like she went out for a run in the neighborhood and he was like i saw you running and she said like it was something like as she was running she like had to go around people like almost hit into a sign or something like that and he was like i saw you running and she said like it was something like as she was running she like had to go around people like almost hit into a sign or something like that and he was like i saw you almost like bump into that thing and she was like friendly in the moment because it was just like weird and she does get like uh i think there's a lot of weird stoolie runoff from people who follow her from like in the past. And so it's like I remember this guy a couple years ago.

He was the weirdo who was strange to me and told you he saw you running and is now running around town telling people that you hooked up. And and I'm like, what the fuck is this shit, man? Like, what? And I know, unfortunately, I hate to even admit this. I'm sure this is, you know, a weirdo Barstool thing. I just cannot wrap my head around these people. And this, I feel bad for this woman, who, to be fair, was kind of accusatory with it, was like, sort of like, you know, hey, are you doing this, rather than being like, I've heard some things about, like, from this guy, like, can we talk, just kind

of being like, hey, I guess when you're dating somebody, or seeing somebody, and they tell you something, you just believe it, I guess you can get, you know, completely bamboozled by somebody, but she thought, I mean, I'm pretty sure she was, like, full-blown dating this guy, like, met kids, and met the family, and stuff, and it turns out he's just, like, a raging fucking psychopath making up stories about people in our town, and, and telling people things that, like, you know 100% you're gonna get caught, this is not like New York City, this is not like you can just be, like, you know 100% you're going to get caught. This is not like New York City. This is not like you can just be like, oh, I dated that girl Jackie, and it's like one of the chances, like, no one's going to cross paths.

No one's going to see each other. Actually, I say that even in New York. Like, as big of a city it is, it feels like it's small sometimes. But this is like a very small town in a school. We go to a school that has like 20 kids per class. All the parents know each other. All the parents talk to each other. Just making up wild out of

pocket shit about one of the parents. And now I'm like, what the fuck else has been said? What else is going on? Because this woman finally just came up and said something, but who knows what else this guy or other people or other fucking weirdos have been saying. And I just it's the ultimate be normal where i'm like in what world what do you gain from doing this and then by the way when i found we found i found his

instagram profile way too many pictures of dogs of his dog like the first nine pictures are his dog and he dressed it up for halloween and it's all like all right some people do that with his dog wait does he have kids no so that was the other thing we knew he was he we knew his age we knew he was single and then he lived at home with his parents and so that was another thing when we looked it up we found the address and it said like who actually owned the house and it was like that's because he lives at home his parents so it's i don't even know why his fate dating this guy in the fucking first place uh sounds like we're on the local city website figuring that shit out what was that we're on like local like yeah township websites yeah because it just it just

you you don't realize i i think you have to like opt out of a lot of shit. So I made sure, once I learned this, I got all my information offline. But everybody should do that, because who fucking knows? I found out in college that you could find blueprints to your house. Crazy. Like, online. Oh, that's just public record. It's crazy. If you look, because I was trying to get...

I got them as graduation gifts for it was our college house like that's cool i was like that was a cool one but yeah that's it was crazy that it was just like well that stuff is harmless but the problem is nowadays so it's like okay you buy a house that's got to be public record for whatever reasons bookkeeping finances the finances, the town zoning, whatever. That's not in and of itself that harmful, although it is kind of weird that anybody can find where you live. But you put your name on that, and then you put your name on everything else. You put your name on your LinkedIn. You put your college on your LinkedIn so that everyone can search your college and your name.

And then they can find, you know, you can narrow it down real fucking quick. And that's why everybody, you know i i still really i say this about like every episode but i still really feel like the fact that we we were alive for the literal creation the actual invention of social media i think it's going to be like laughable that we used to just be like my name is at kevin clancy on the internet and i like all my public doings on the internet are are readily available if you just search my name i think it's going to be like i think people are going to be stunned by how much we used to put on the internet because if you really want to you can i mean this took zero effort let alone if

you're like maniacal and you have the right apps and the right ways to look things up and search and connections this was just like google searches um but fuck this guy i hate this shit and i mean it's not really my i was joking on barstool radio uh that the guy caitlin is seeing like would beat the fucking shit out of this dude because he's fucking gigantic. So it's not like my place really anymore, but I'm just so fucking sick of people being weird and manipulative on the internet and then they get away with it entirely.

Whether it's like weirdo ex situations or co-worker situations, burner situations, all this shit is so fucked up because you just wield so much power over somebody when you have the phone and the internet and the ability to spread lies and rumors. Because the first headline is all the attention. But when the second headline is like,

oh, it turned out to be like, none of that shit is true. Nobody cares. That doesn't make the front page. So, everybody is like, this guy is being so fucking weird or intrusive or scary, manipulative, whatever it is. And it's like, well,

you don't want it to get any worse. Don't say anything. Because then he, like, he's a little bit crazy, he might go, like, really crazy, and it's like, oh, so you can just, you can just be the victim of somebody's little craziness, just in case they go fully crazy, and I understand why, and it's like, at the end of the day, is it, is it really that, are you, like, the victim of something that bad, other than just, like, a weird rumor about you, but it's kind of like fuck that

like there are definitely times where i felt like in my town we're kind of like on the outside looking in and i think it's because people know who i am and so my content is risque and people just treat me a little bit differently i'm sure some people don't like me and so it's like maybe that's in my head a little bit but i also sometimes feel like we are like you know i'm always trying to make sure my kids are involved in everything and invited to everything and we want to be a part of everything and it's not like oh we don't talk to them because for whatever reason

but I'm also like now I don't know what maybe this is why maybe fucking weirdos like this have been going on and we don't know what kind of rumors are out there and what things people are saying or doing but like fuck this guy i hate it so fucking much i like part of me so badly wants to just air you out put you on blast first

and last name out into the world as a complete and total fucking weirdo and i hope you do lose your job and and and fucking all bad things come your way because you're running around being an absolute fucking weirdo and getting your rocks off on i don't even know what i i'm always i'm usually a fan of like all is fair on the internet and like the people who snitch or dyer and rebel calling somebody's college or you call someone's boss or whatever i don't like that shit but you know these people don't stop when, when, when you have an axe to grind, a grudge, whether it's real or made up, whether it's romantic, professional, friendship, money, like, whatever, and you get, like, the phone in your hand, and it's like, these fucking weirdos get so crazy with it, and then everyone's just like, well,

there's no, like, you know, there's, there's there's starting to be like laws against it but like not really and if and if it's just exposing things that like did happen there's nothing wrong with that but it is just like fucked up it's like why can't everybody it's the ultimate be normal and and like i guess some people are actually just fucked up and weird but uh i don't i i do not understand what what you get out of that other than just being like i made up this lie and they think it's real it's like okay weirdo so i mean i know he's a fan and this dumb fucking idiot i i he he followed me and it said, follow back. So I clicked follow back to request it.

And he accepted it. Like, of course, like it was like, I didn't contact him, but I found him on social media and she blocked him. Cause she was like, I don't want him seeing anything with the kids or me ever again.

So he's like, she, he gets a block from her and a follow from me. And he just accepts the follow. Like, you dumb fucking idiot. This guy's as stupid as he is creepy. You should publicly out him. You shouldn't, but...

I should and I shouldn't. I should and I shouldn't. It's like, first of all, it technically really isn't my... I mean, Caitlin came to me with it right away and we figured it all out together. But, you know, it's still, it's not really my place anymore. And there is part of me that's like, who knows what he's capable of, you know, like what I just described. It's like, I would love him to, you know, face some sort of consequences for it. But also, weird, you live in the same neighborhood and like I said, everything is public and

everybody knows everything and who knows? There's some weirdo who lives with his parents. Like, it's already, we're already like 90% of the way through the script of like a shooter. You know what I mean? You know, he was a loner who stayed to himself and like lied a lot and hung out with his dog. He's the one who like blew up the house, you know? So, you know, and that,

I always end up coming back to that. In my personal life, professional life with Barstool, stuff like this, other people, things, I'm always like, I'm going to fucking do it. I'm like, there have been times where I've been, you know, essentially like blackmailed or extorted or pushed around with like,

you know, I'm going to say this. I mean, I basically, you know, I had my career like torpedoed once before publicly. And I was like, I don't want to do that again this. I mean, I basically, you know, I had my career like torpedoed once before publicly. And I was like, I don't want to do that again. So anytime there was any threat of anything, either real or fake, that was like, this is going to be a scandal or a problem. I would always just be like, all right, all right, all right, all right. Like, I don't want to do that again. That's not worth it. But then there's always been every now and then there's a part of me that's like, let's fucking do it. Like, let's burn it all down all down if i didn't have kids i would have done that probably several times by now but also it wouldn't

have been a thing if i didn't have kids if i was just like a regular you know what i mean like these things all are like scandalous because i have like a family and a regular life and shit but it's like i would love to just be like okay and then you take all the way like all the power away you know how many times have you been not not many, but more than once. That's too many. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was so sweet, Jackie. It's not sweet. It's true.

It is too many. But I mean, yeah, part of me sometimes I'm like, I don't know, this is the life. And then I'm like, is it though? I don't know if anybody else is dealing with this. But like, you know, Dave has gone through it. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know who else maybe has gone through it. But like, I, you know, Dave has gone through it, um, I don't know if, I don't know, I don't know who else maybe has gone through it, but, like, he, he actually has gone

through, well, yeah, me and Dave have gone through our, our, our own shit, um, whether it's deserved or not deserved, and then it's, like, I always, at the end of the day, I'm always, like, I just don't want more, anything more out there that my kids are going to have to deal with. So I always end up just leaving it alone. But I'm like, one of these days, because it just builds and builds and builds. Eventually, I will. I will fucking snap. But this one is like, I'm also much more prone to like, when you're fucking with other people i'm more prone to be like i'll do it you

know like for me i'll just it's either my fault i made my own bed or this is unfair but i i'll like just shoulder the the pressure of it um kfc radio is brought to you by body armor it is real hydration real ingredients packed with electrolytes vitamins and nothing artificial body armor has a great has great tasting flavors like strawberry banana and blue raspberry. Not only do we hydrate with body armor, but other like-minded individuals do. Other like-bodied individuals, like-sized, like-athletic-ability individuals. You know, people like Christian McCaffrey, Joe Barrow, Ronald Acuna Jr., C.D. Lamb, Bryce Young, John Feidelberg.

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i wish i could live in like other people's lives for like a minute because i don't know how – I wish I could live in like other people's lives for like a minute because I don't know whether or not – I feel like I can't – I can't – I don't think I can do this much longer, Jackie. I don't think I can handle – like life is so goddamn hard when you get older and I don't know if other people feel that's why when john is telling stories where he's just like oh i'm just gonna like i'm just gonna go do nothing for like 72 hours and like see what happens or i'll or i'll pick up and jet set here go there and do that but like the that i can't even begin to fathom that life and i'm pretty sure it's it's like everybody who has kids and a job and a relationship and all that shit. But there is just never a moment anymore where there is like nothing to do or nothing to do. Because I do still have plenty of downtime. Like the hours at this job are pretty good.

And I'm not a full-time parent. So like there are definitely people who are literally around the clock. I see like Joey Langone and Nick Buono and those guys who are like full-time dads, full-time working. Like they're really going to lose their mind. I at least get a little bit of a reprieve from like the constant. But like the shit I got to worry about or that I make myself worry about, it's just always something. Like I worried about blogging and then late, the, like, I worried about blogging, and then I added the podcast, and then I added a video, and then we add this,

and we add that, and all of a sudden, it's like 10 things to worry about at work when you used to do, like, one, and then you have one kid, and then you have two kids, and then you have to worry about them when they're babies, you have to worry about them when they're older, and what activities they're doing, then you have to worry about how successful they're gonna be while you're still worrying about how successful you're gonna be, and you have to worry about how successful they're going to be while you're still worrying about how successful you're going to be. And you have to keep everyone in your personal friendship and romantic relationships happy. And you have to worry about your parents getting old.

And you have to worry about your kids getting older. You have to worry about – and it's just like – Bro, this is stressing me out. Right. I'm like I can't possibly do this, but I'm also like is this everybody? Or is this – is that in my – I think a lot of people are just like I just don't worry about those things I worry about myself like I don't have kids yet but

no I'm right there with you yeah you just worry about everything and it's yeah the not having a second it's the past like three weeks just been going non-stop like it's it's insane it's I'm famous for saying I'm always like we just got to get through this week yeah oh same same we have live shows and then we have I've gotten called out on that one Like it's insane. I'm famous for saying I'm always like we just got to get through this week. Yeah.

Oh, same. We have live shows and then we have – I got called out on that one now. I'm like, oh, yeah, just through the – like one more live show. Totally. Yeah. The amount of times on a day-to-day basis I'm like I should be back. I think I just have radio today and I'll be back at like 2 o'clock. And it's never that.

I'm always back at like 7.30. And then on a bigger scale, I'm like, okay, next week we have the live shows. We got to film Survivor and then I'm done. And then I'll be good. And it is never that. And everybody in my family is always like, yeah, okay, sure. Do you think it's harder because like since you – like with the divorce, like you – even though you have less, like you're not on all days. When you're on, you're like 100 yeah rather than just being 50 it's definitely like uh when i'm like in dad mode it's like i am

alone doing almost all of it but i actually like that better i don't know so part of part of the divorce life i think is like you know when you get when you raise kids you have to like raise them under like you have two different rules and two different philosophies and two different uh moods and you know it's like i don't know when i have my kids i do do what i want and what i think is best and i think we both trust each other to do that so it's like when they're with them i'm comfortable i hope she feels the same way when they're with me and she has a bigger burden because it's more time, you know. But I can, like, do what I want and then I give them back. And then I'll, like, go balls to the wall for, like, three days at work and then get back to them.

And, you know, so I do little things. Like, I'll drive them up to school, pick them up at school, see them at sports, whatever. But I can really, like, focus on this shit. Like, we can do, you know, a lot. Like, cram it all in. But, yeah, so it's very, like, cram, cr you know, a lot, like, cram it all in, but yeah, so it's very, like, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, and that just, and I think, you know, I feel like it's more, or harder, or more pressure, because it's, like, on the public eye, and there's a lot of money on the line, and da-da-da, but I'm sure everybody feels that way about whatever their burden is, their job is, their thing is.

And that's at least what I'm wondering. I'm wondering if some people wake up, like I wake up every morning, or like when I'm going to bed every night, I'm like freaking out. Every single time. And I have to like just like talk myself through it. And I think other people are going through the same, because every time I say that, there's a lot of people

being like, yup, yup. I just listened to Matt and Shane's, and Matt was saying he does the same thing wakes up at like five every morning every morning every morning it's like i feel like there's like that's exactly what people say like meditation and shit yeah i'm sure there's ways but well i can't tell is i think in my case there was like some very tangible problems. There are tangible problems that are like this. If everything was like good and I was freaking out, I think I would be like this is like a thing in my brain. I either need medication or I need to meditate because like I should not be upset about anything and I am. But there are very tangible things where I'm like I'm upset about this.

And if this were different, I would probably be happy. so I have to either fix this or just deal with this but I don't know how much meditating is going to help the fact that I have this very large problem looming over me all the time that's probably like my 24 like just breathe a little bit well but no but well and I always say this about like when like I'm sure you and me feel the same thing I would be like are you kidding me those are not real problems. But to you, they feel like they are because you're experiencing it for the first time or you haven't had other stressors or whatever. I think like your brain is probably reacting the same exact way to that thing that mine reacts to my thing. It's just that mine on like a – if we're going to get literal literal it's probably quote-unquote more important or

bigger or whatever but i bet we're feeling the same thing so it's all it's all very valid it's just like different different people have different problems um i i really thought the money was going to change things and it didn't change a fucking thing not one ounce it's only been a little bit more pressure probably, if anything. I mean, I guess I say that and I'm lying in the sense of like, I would probably be like really worried about some bills and shit. And I don't do that anymore. So I can't say that. But like, it's definitely not, it has not been like, hey, like we are good.

Have you wrapped your head around it? What's that? Have you like wrapped your head around the money yet though? I feel like. I haven't really, around it? What's that? Have you wrapped your head around the money yet, though? I bought a house, and that's really it. I keep saying, I got to spend this and enjoy it, because then maybe I'll relax a little bit or whatever. But it's like... Yeah. I mean, for a year, you were beating the drum, like, enjoy your swimming pool.

Yes. Yes. I do as I say, not as I do. You know what I literally did? I got a swimming pool and, like, never used it. It was like – but actually, the swimming pool continues to be a real – a good analogy. Because the swimming pool, like, I needed to fix it first, and then I needed to heat it. And in order to get it heated, I needed to get – there was no propane left, so then I needed to get a propane delivery.

When the propane guys showed up, they were like, these tanks are like 100 years old and not even close to up to code. So we need to replace them. And then the replacement took a long time. And then after I got them replaced, I needed to get the delivery. And that was another two weeks. And I looked and it was the summer was over and i was like my kids swam in my pool like once this summer and i had you know grand plans for them to be like in it all the time and it was like this is very symbolic of how much i just like i want to do the fun thing but there's just always some little thing in in the way um but i also like i wanna i'm like we should i should go away and then i'm just like well we got this we got that and then i got it that weekend i'm with

the kids and then it's like when am i gonna go away and i just i just i guess i just have to force myself to do it but there's just always something like uh i actually think i was on the way to do it and then barstool radio kind of like, right. You ain't get back. Cause I, I think I was really ready to be like, I'm going to come in Monday,

Tuesday, Wednesday, and then Thursday, Friday, take off and have like a four day weekend every weekend. And adding that one, even just that one extra day of Barstool radio. And then even Barstool radio being like,

and all of Barstool, New York. Now, now the thing is, I, I'm all my mentions are like, KFC needs to run the Barstool Radio being like and all of Barstool New York now the thing is all my mentions are like KFC needs to run the Barstool New York

office the New York office is falling apart and now I have to run the whole fucking office I was like I wanted to do

I wanted to be a blogger and then I started a podcast and it was like your podcast stinks and I made sure the podcast was good and everyone made fun

of the videos and I made sure the videos were good and now it's like I have to like Barstool Radio didn't even exist a minute ago. But now we're worried about what the numbers are or what the guests are or what the style is. It's like this just wasn't even in existence a month ago. Why are you even worried about that? And it's the Chicago versus New York thing, it's then there was the the the Dave the Dave I don't I I think the Dave taking over ultimately is good but it definitely threw a wrench

into what I was hoping to do I mean I I I think I've pretty much given up on the idea of the original idea I had for what they were going to call the GM of comedy. I don't really care about the title, but that's what I call it for the sake of describing it. So it's not confusing. But they were looking for someone to run comedy at Barstool. I wanted to do more of that. It seemed like it was going to be a perfect fit. And then with Dave buying it back, not only does he – I don't think he likes that structure, business structure set up, but I also think without the financial backing of Penn, we just can't do it the way I really wanted to do it. And there's still plenty of people in-house that are very funny.

I mean I went to Tommy right away. I went to Tommy. I went to Rudy, the Out of Order Boys, like a people, Rowan and Sass, of course, a few people that I was like, you guys are way funnier and way more talented than your level of success is showing right now. And not to say that they're not successful, but they are. They should be up

here. And I was like, we're going to take you there. And on top of that, I wanted to bring in outsiders and kind of create a stable of people. Because we just have the best contacts in the world. A lot of that all takes money, costs money. I don't blame Dave for being like he's the sole operator of this. You can't run around throwing out millions of dollars to other talent.

I don't know if it's a Barstool thing or I think we're at a point on the internet. I think I would guess and I never really got a chance to become a full business side of things where I looked at all of the numbers and revenue and all that shit. I looked at a little bit

but I definitely do not have a full scope of everything so maybe I'm wrong. But I don't think the world has like monetized ken is capable of monetizing people enough to keep up with some of the money being paid out like we'll talk about i'll talk about alex on on on barcelona radio in a second but when like when she got so big she commanded a certain amount of money at even if even if barcelona really like wanted to keep her and even let's say there was no beef there was no drama i don't think we could have it doesn't make money you know like if you

pay alex cooper 10 million dollars you have to sell $10 million before you even start to turn a profit on her. That's hard to do. That's hard. Barstool is a pretty big entity, and at times we've done – you've heard everybody complain about sales. At times I think we've monetized well, but we're going through a rough patch of sales. So we can't monetize anything, let alone you've got to get into the eight figures before you're even talking about making a cent. Yeah, and the people that want to actually pay that are overly sensitive about shit, and they don't let you do your thing. That has forever been the problem with Barstool.

I'm talking from when you want to throw a party at a bar to we want to do a multi-year deal with you for blah, blah, blah. The people who like Barstool don't have the money and the people who have the money don't like Barstool or are afraid of Barstool or have to answer to too many people for Barstool. It's the regular guys who are like, I'd love to advertise my bar with you. I have $500 in my budget. And it's like, well, sorry, pal. And then the people who have $500,000 are like, you can't curse.

It's like, well, that's not going to work. And then you find hopefully the sweet spots. But there's definitely shows here that I think make a lot of money that the hosts earn a lot of money that don't make a lot of money. And I think when Penn was here, that was okay because it was like we just want revenue, revenue, revenue. Dave's explained this before. I guess the idea is you get your revenue so fucking high and even if all your expenses are high, eventually you can cut down on those expenses

and you hope the revenue still stays and it's this wonderfully profitable company and you sell it for a jillion dollars. That's at least the idea behind it. So in that period of time, it's like pay Alex Cooper $20 million like Spotify did and if you only make 19 and we lose

money on her but that's 19 million more we can put towards revenue like all good so I think we were going to go down that road with them of like just acquiring new talent and now under like I mean I don't know I like I said I don't know.

Like I said, I've pretty much given up on the idea of it. But like we had Jesus and Mero sitting at Red Lobster like 10 years ago ready to sign a deal that we ended up balking on that deal because I think they said they didn't want any ads on their podcast. And again, back to my point, it's like you have to be able to monetize these people. At this time, I think it was like $100,000 salary for each of them, which at the time was a big deal. And it was like, we can't pay each of you $100,000 and then we can't sell your podcast. We're going to lose money.

And I remember being in that moment like, it's not my wallet so I can't decide it. I would have said yes to those two. And I would have figured out, we'll make the money back on merch. We'll make it back in other ways. Just get them under the roof. Get it in the doors. Those two were like the funniest guys on the internet.

Jesus and Mira end up going on Showtime and television and Vice. And to be honest, if I'm being honest, I think those guys made the wrong choice going towards TV. I think if they stayed on the internet, they would have been in that million dollars worth of game, Joe Budden, space, and been like monsters. But they're doing just fine, so they don't need my advice. But I brought those guys in. I wanted them. I had Chris DiStefano in this building, sitting down in meetings

like, I want to come to Barstool. We didn't sign him. He's selling out Madison Square. We're selling out the Hulu Theater and going to do Madison Square Garden one day, I'm sure. There's examples where it's just like, I can only

do so much before I told... I can't tell you how many times I said, go get Dan Soder. Go get Dan Soder. Go get Dan Soder. He doesn't have a podcast. He doesn't have his own YouTube presence. Throw him a boatload of money. Let's go. Now, Dan, I spoke to Dan. He was like, I'm not interested.

I want to do something solo. But, you know, he's starting his own podcast now. I think Homeless Pimp is producing it. And it's like, I'm sure that could have been us if they took it seriously. That's him and Big Jay, right? Well, no. Him and Big Jay do. Well, they did the bonfire together.

And now I believe Dan is coming out with, like, the Dan Soder Show. Oh, got it. Well, maybe Big Jay was just the first guest. just i think he was like the first guest yeah i saw the promo for it i was like are they just doing the bonfire on a i think it was like episode one is like my guy i i shouldn't say that for sure but i'm pretty sure it's just like the dan soda show no it is he just does like 30 minute interviews right uh i you know i he's he's the perfect example of like he's the funniest guy in the world and I think he's going to be selling that arena soon enough. And we could have helped him do that, and he could have been under our umbrella, and it just never was taken seriously. And then the one I really wanted to do with – I really wanted Rory and Mal,

who are the guys who broke off of the Joe Budden podcast, and they started their own thing, and they came to us, and they were like, we would love to come to Barstool and at that point they met with Erica Erica liked them I think everything was lining up but that was still under the pen days

because I thought they would have slid right in they are like a bizarro world KFC radio they have the exact same set up the same number of producers one girl two hosts it's like a hip hop version of KFC Radio. They have the exact same setup, the same number of producers, one girl, two hosts. It's like a hip-hop version of KFC Radio. And I think they would have slid right in and been perfect. And then right as things were starting to materialize, Dave is like, I just can't. And those guys have a big enough show where they are fielding offers from other networks or other sponsors or whatever revenue model they're going to end up choosing.

I think you're talking about, you know, a couple million dollars. And I asked Dave, I was like, is that even possible? And he's like, it would have to be, you know, the most perfect scenario. And so I'm like, I don't think I can build. I've tried. I've given the names. I think I've proven that I have an eye for it based on the people that have been in here and like we're at the one yard line and then didn't work out went on to do

incredible things if we did it i think it would work but i don't think we're gonna do it so i i'm just gonna move on but it's like that's another thing that was like i want to i do want it i do want the new york office to succeed and i do want it to be bigger and better, and here's how I want to do it, but that path is no longer an option. And I understand why it's not, but it's also like, well, then I can't really worry about doing it if the best way to do it, I think, is no longer an option. So I don't know where we're at on that. Part of it is like, everybody's got to kind of do their own thing. I mean, I would very much love to make sure everybody else is good. And I could become more of like that executive producer role,

but it's proving very hard to be like, to get it going. We've been doing these videos that are working, but it's like you can only lead a horse to water. We have these weekly brainstorm sessions, and I'm like, you got to do shit. Tommy is a perfect example. If I could have 100 Tommies, I think this place would be unbelievable.

Tommy's doing the billboards in Times Square. He's recording songs. He's making art. He's doing the billboards in Times Square. He's recording songs. He's making art. He's doing spoofs and jokes. He's doing very intricate content that takes time and effort and production. And he goes and he does it. And you have to fucking do it. And I think a lot of people here sit and wait for instruction.

And I get that too. They want to be told what to do or how to do it. Or they don't want to step on toes. They don't want to – people are afraid to fail. There's a million reasons. But it's like just go fucking do it. And then Barstool Radio features you. And I feel like if I put people on Barstool Radio right now, people will come and sit on the couch and they're just like, what are we talking about? It's like, I don't know.

You fucking tell me. Tell me what you're doing at barstool what's interesting what is cool what what project are you working on what thing are you doing and i don't know how many people out there are doing it and you know it's like i said like you can only lead a horse to water and john was like you were dragging the horse to the water and they're actively fighting against the water sometimes so i would would love to be, you know, everybody knows there's this New York-Chicago thing. It's, you know, it's this unspoken. People are like, it's not a rivalry, but it's a rivalry.

It's not a, it's like, listen, a bunch of people chose to move somewhere. They placed their bet. People in New York placed their bet. Everybody wants to, you know, have chosen correctly. And I would love for it to be like New York is killing it and thriving it, but you can only do so much before it's up to you guys. I think it's still some of the best people in the company, and

New York City will always be an X factor. I mean, the mere fact that Alex Cooper just dropped in out of nowhere, that was wild. That was... You guys saying up at the top of the show, like, this is the Endgame scenario. Like, there's a one in one trillion chance. Well, I will say this. I did say that.

I was like, there's no chance she comes on. I said, this is Doctor Strange in Endgame where he calculates 14 million scenarios and there's only one way that it happens. I didn't know she was filming a documentary and a lot of it started to fall into place once i saw a camera crew following her oh yeah i i sent them uh the radio footage because they didn't catch the beginning they want all that by the way they were asking for the turkey footage and they said any old

footage you have that that's what i got an email like can you send us all the old footage i was like i'm gonna need a list like i'm not just gonna go start downloading every call her daddy episode and then like yeah i'll need a list everything you got whatever they were they were i didn't realize when you have a documentary crew following you it's very like let's go to my old stomping grounds and like retell the story if i had known that i would have told you there's a hundred percent chance did you did you notice and maybe it's just like my ignorance of the fact like she i mean she said she actively like was trying not to be a part of the office while here okay so that that's the big discussion well i also didn't realize though she knew

everyone's name still and i i did realize, she was technically here for three years. So, of course, she would know that. But I didn't realize, like, her being, like, Tommy, Francis. She was looking at the mural over here being like, is that me? Or is that supposed to be Rhea or even Fran? Yeah. And she, like, she had everyone. So, let me say this.

Alex Cooper is a very impressive person. She has a presence about her that that bitch could run for office. I don't think I've ever seen The Office quite like that. I've seen The Office get hyped over guests. I've seen The Office have nervous energy guests i've seen the office have nervous energy i've seen the office be chaotic i don't know if i've seen quite that where like there was whispers that she was coming that like started to buzz when she sat down on radio you could hear a pin drop like the whole place shut the fuck up and was like what is she about to say i was like whoa

jackie was beaming ear to ear i have never you were fangirling hard you were fangirl i was so hard girl it was like that so that i did not realize how big of a fan i was when she when she was out in hot and like was down to do radio right away down to clown with tommy i was like all right i i i there was i i ran a full gamut of emotions with that part of me was like i've got this bitch trapped on live radio right now like should i do something crazy like should i should i like really fucking like grill her like say some wild shit like ask some some fucking inappropriate shit like make her you know whatever but um she was so gracious with her time as far as like she was like i'll do your video with tommy she was talking to him she like tommy making her do that specifically which will be in the smoke shows soon so funny that is so

good why and i i commend tommy that's what like that's what i'm talking about tommy like he looked at me dead in the eyes at one point and i think it was on radio but he kind of it was like almost like meant to be like off camera he was like i have to do something with this girl like debt like locked eyes like i must get content with her and was it like super pushy and probably annoying for her on some level 100 but that's what you gotta do that's what you gotta like when you're doing content you gotta, film in public and do weird things and annoy people and all that sort of shit. And, like, that, you know, that was your, that's your one opportunity. That's why, I mean, I could have, I would have kept going with her on radio.

I kept being like, one more question, one more question, because this is, like, the only time I'm going to get with you. But, now, the, the, as much as she knows names and all that is very true. She was very nice and gracious to everybody. This narrative of like, I, at one point she said, we did so much together, you guys. I was like, now I bet in her mind, like her rise to fame occurred during her Barstool era, if you will. So in her mind, like her life was super crazy and exploding while at barstool era if you will so in her mind like her life was super crazy and exploding while at barstool so in her you know her view of it is probably like so much shit happened at barstool but do you remember the day in the old office what's that the day

in the old office where fran was it francis wrote a blog about them and they read it on live radio it got spiked at first and then they came in I think the initial thing was they came in radio and they said we can tell the size of everybody's dick here

without anybody taking their pants off just by looking at their attitude and I will say it was embarrassing how many people got bent out of shape about that like like if they if you know i and vice versa uh uh garnelli was telling me yp to this day we'll still talk about how alex cooper says he has a big dick and then the guys who said that she said that they had small dicks were like and i think francis wrote a response blog which was equally as like, you know, like we're doing this for content and we're stirring the pot. That sort of shit for sure was calculated.

I get that. I just remember that day, like the office stopped doing work. They pulled out a TV like it was class and we all watched radio five feet away. They were for sure stirring the pot, but I don't know. I might be a little too close to the situation because I came into work yesterday thinking I was just kind of a regular-ass day. I ended up doing like 20 minutes of radio with Alex Cooper. She does answer the internet, and then somehow I ended up in her documentary, which I was like, what in the fuck is going on? But when I opened up that when I was talking to the producer, it was it wasn't with Alex.

It was just me solo. I said, I think this might be true. I think I might singularly be the most incorrect person on the planet Earth about Alex Cooper. Because while there were plenty of people who doubted her, I was like the most against it in the beginning here because I was trying to speak up for at the time what I thought was the right thing was like trying to be the voice of the office and what I've learned as I've grown up and become more professional is like the voice of the office is often a lot of fucking haters a lot of stupid people a lot of emotional people people who aren't making smart business decisions so I was like I'm gonna speak up on behalf of like this person, this person,

this person, this person who I value their opinion. And I respect like what they've done here. And they're not happy about this. Like, I'm going to say it. And, um, um, so I was like, I don't know, man, I don't know, Dave, I don't know. This is a good idea. And like, obviously, uh, very, very incorrect. It was, it was super, super super the right call but all of that being said doesn't change the fact that when they were here there's no denying that they never really embraced barstool now she is a fucking master of this this message she's delivering now saying i was doing that on purpose because it created the mystique and it made us like the renegades and it made us more of a big deal when we did show up. I think that did occur.

I think in hindsight that narrative fits perfectly. I also think you just didn't want to fucking do anything with us. I think it was very like she didn't want to do the videos I think the Tommy thing was a joke But also very serious where it was like We are trying to be sexy, cool, hot Cutting edge Like we want to be elite

We want to be for rich people We want to be for famous people And we don't want to be around Tommy Smokes I think that was very real And I think that was kind of a microcosm for a bigger picture I don't want to be around Tommy Smokes. I think that was very real. And I think that was kind of a microcosm for a bigger picture of like I don't want to be doing the combine with a bunch of these slobs. So we're not going to do that. Now it ends up working out.

That was one of the things that Dave made them do, right? Well, that's – so they showed up in crutches and neck braces and casts. That was funny. If it was more stuff like that where it was like, okay, you're a part of this video now. It was eventually – it was very Mean Girls-esque. It was just like we're not coming to work. And to then – to now come back and say that was all calculated and on purpose and I knew what I was doing, I'd say that's like 20% true. It worked out perfectly.

Do you think it would have changed their brand if they had been more involved? No, my thing is more – if that was the case, you should say that. Like I was always – I was never – I mean I was definitely – my own personal feelings with them was like I was very jealous of their success. I was very – I didn't think at the time like they were like naming names and like kind of – they kind of broke the rules of like what you do publicly. And I was like we're going to burn bridges. We're going to lose like relationships. And now they kind of showed that like that's the way to do it. It's like fuck it. Be real and all that stuff.

But at the time, I was kind of like I don't like the way they're doing this. I'm jealous of the way it do it. It's like, fuck it, be real and all that stuff. But at the time, I was kind of like, I don't like the way they're doing this. I'm jealous of the way it's working. I don't want to... And I really thought it was like, we built this brand that she took it and ran with it and no doubt made herself a superstar. But without this brand,

that doesn't happen. And without the work that a lot of us put in for the last 10 years at that point, this wouldn't be happening for you. So it felt like you're using this brand and you're not – well, you're definitely contributing a fuck ton of money to it. And that really matters. You're literally keeping the lights on in the office. There's no denying that.

A simple – it's kind of like the Nicky Smokes thing. I don't blame you for taking the contract, but maybe just come in that like, you got a good thing going because of Barstool. And that never happened. If she said to me like, yo, my, I have a shtick almost. That's like,

we're going to be like blowing you guys off. But like, Hey, but I am really appreciative of like blah, blah, blah, blah. Now she doesn't have no fucking reason to do that to me,

but I'm just saying from my personal point of view, it would have been like, if you told the, the, the people here, Hey, you all built this this thing i'm now a part of it i'm gonna do my best to blow it up and look what i did for you but also i get all the blood sweat and tears you put into it but what i'm gonna do is kind of blow you off i'm gonna play this thing i would have been like cool got it there's never any communication like that and again she doesn't

have to do that and i'm sure part of her narrative of this is like if i were to tell you that it wouldn't work and all that i'm just saying i think that's more the puzzle pieces fit perfectly when you become this super successful person and come back in and it's very easy to come back in when you're worth you know 100 million dollars you make oh my god everybody i love you it's like yeah no fucking game but so while i i think i'm i would like to think of myself as pretty perceptive and i can see through those things and i did i feel like i grilled her enough on like some of those questions that yeah i was like you're being very again gracious with your time and there's no reason you don't have to jump on radio with me but

i i can't not ask you some of these questions so but but the fact that she was doing it i was not going to like start a fight or or call her out or whatever like try to a there's really she didn't do anything wrong or b she has like the trump card of being like i don't give a fuck i'm super successful and c like if you're doing something nice for our content i'm not going you know, put you in a compromising position. But I think I can see through that while acknowledging she does it so very well. And she does know everyone's name. And she is looking you in the eyes.

And she's treating you nicely. That it's like, even if this is a little bit phony, it's genuine in a phony way or phony in a genuine way, however you want to put it. So I was like, I'd tip my cap and then 99% of the other people out there who aren't as close to the situation as me not a nerd about the internet the way I am not personally involved aren't jealous, don't have any insecurities all the things that I have that make me

hyper aware of it if you're not hyper aware of all these things you're just like, I don't know, she started this company, she blew up that's it, you don't think. She started this company. She blew up. That's it. You don't, you don't think about like, well, did she talk to these people? Did she participate in their videos?

Was there any communication? But they're just like, oh, she started here and now she's like successful. Who the fuck cares? That's how 99% of the people in the world consume her. It's just like, they don't care about all the ins and outs of this,

but I don't know. The documentary, I will say this. Hope Tom Lee gets a shout out finally. Tommy Lee deserves a lot of love for what he put up with. Those girls are, they were very, like, not difficult to work with, but they were, it was a lot of work and a lot of. If you want to talk revisionist history, she produced the podcast herself. Yeah, that.

That fucking storyline i i and i i again she was super nice and i don't want to like put any or any compromising situation but the the idea what what what i what i think people don't realize about alex is how much she does like have i believe an eye for certain things and wants it to look a certain way and is very hands-on in that approach. That spun into like I created everything. She created, I think her first couple episodes were edited by her, by herself, and they were done well. But then we had Noah. We had Tommy Lay.

We had like. Tommy Lay was on it from the jump and he worked till 2 3 a.m every every fucking day every day yeah he has famously has a sign on his desk like it's all going to be okay yeah yeah and noah was the same right no in the beginning was i think helping out and it's like i don't think those guys ever got the love they deserved and and and that would be nice you know you can come in here i don nice. You know, you can come in here. I don't give a fuck about it. You can come in here and be nice to me.

Like, we never, like, those guys should get a shout out for really being a part of, like, an integral part. Maybe even, like, a necessary part. Like, if those producers, whether it was Tommy Lay or Noah or two other guys, like, whoever the first couple of producers at Barstool were going to be on Call Her Daddy are very responsible for what is probably going to be a billion-dollar entity, if not already. And they don't really ever get love for that. So that's where the revisionist history is a little bit like – that felt like when you're on 60 Minutes and you go back to your high school and it's like oh yeah like we were all best friends and it's like they're like that she was you know god let's be real that's why i'm always just praying hoge takes off for tommy's sake uh if hoge ever gets to like half a penny tommy lay has like 90 million dollars yeah um but it was very interesting and i i do really find her to be an absolute delight. Like at the time – you also forget she was like 24 then, and I think she's almost 30 now, something like that, late 20s.

Sorry, Jack. You can't compare yourself to people like that. That is one thing – one of the main things I used to – like I used to be like I – when it very first started, some people were like, oh, it's like a female KFC radio. Like, you guys should link up. And I remember, like, kind of being compared in that sense. That's very, we went different paths, to say the least. But I used to be like, what the fuck, man? Like, you know, we're not two hot chicks, but we are doing, like, similar subject matter.

And I think we have better chemistry and charisma. Why not me? So there was for sure a ton of jealousy and insecurity behind it, but I realized you can't – I mean that is a once-in-a-lifetime, once-in-a-generation sort of thing where that girl – you can't be like, oh my god, I'm 24 and I didn't do that. There's no other 24-year-old on the planet Earth did what she did. So – but yeah, that – she is very – I don't know if it – oh, back to like what I was saying. She's 24. Now she's probably 28 or whatever it was. You are a very different person in those ages. You can be a young, dumb party girl and then go through your media, go through the fire and learn everything and learn about people.

And now as much as I keep repeating it because I think it's hilarious when people are like, she's the new Oprah. She's the new Oprah. When I was sitting with her, I was like, yo, this bitch, she can fucking talk. She's compelling and interesting and engaging. It definitely used to be like vocal fry, like suck his dick, cheat on him, and like fuck his brother. And I was kind of like, ugh. Like, okay, I guess people are going to like that. But this isn't exactly like captivating.

Now I find her to be captivating because it's like you've gone through an experience that very, very few other people, superstars, have gone through and you have something intriguing. I'll say two things about that documentary, though. They are 1,000% trying to push a feminist thing because when I got interviewed, there was two moments. On radio, some topic was brought up. And the producer girl, like from the fucking peanut gallery, went, is that because she was a woman? And I was like, and I don't think anybody picked up on it.

And I was like, no. And then in my questioning, when I sat down, they asked me, like, who am I? What happened when the girls first came in? What did you think of them? I just told everything kind of i explained right here and um and then like at a left field she was just like do you think that they were treated differently because of their gender and i'm pretty sure if you look at my at the tape i was like what like that wasn't even what we were talking about and i was like no absolutely not and. And then I was talking about Barstool's – I was talking about how Alex wanted a different reputation from Barstool's reputation.

And she was like, what is Barstool's reputation? And I think she was just dying for me to say misogynistic. People called us this. People called us that. And I just never gave her what she was looking for. But I was like, if this girl has a very intriguing story and if it's just going to be that documentary is just going to be like i'm a woman and i did it in a man's world it's like i don't know i feel like that's pretty overdone and really was not part of the story like we were

just like yeah these girls are fucking killing it let's go there was never any like if anything i think them being a woman being women helped so i don't know but that was for sure the angle they're trying to go at so i was like uh i hope that that's not for her sake for our sake for everybody's sake like that would be that'd be very lame if you did it that way but um the sky is like literally the limit for that girl the the uh it was oh the other thing when i said two more things the other thing was when we found out that they scripted their podcast and i can say we say that now like like i have no problem saying that color daddy was scripted at the time that was like a dirty secret do not let anybody find that out because that could ruin their show or so we thought i think there's a lot of things that you learn because we started with the infancy of the internet when in the

beginning of blogging and podcasting and social media it's like oh you can't you can't know that secret about that person because it'll ruin their reputation and then it comes out and it's like that didn't end up really mattering that much. At the time, podcasts were like, you have to have real chemistry. And in the moment, you know, back and forth and off the cuff and all that. And we found out it was scripted and that they would rehearse it and then they would do it like three times and edit it down. I was like, this is bullshit. They can't do that and it's like why the fuck not who cares you know what i mean like obviously it was the right way to do it maybe

you dumb assholes should have put some time in write it written a script yourselves but at that time it was like like if the world if the world knew that these girls didn't even do that off the cuff um and there was the milf hunter thing where it was like not only is it scripted, but they're not even the ones writing it. And so there's always been that little thing about it being scripted. And I was asking her producer about their live shows. And I was like, is it scripted? And he was like, yeah. Of course it is.

It's like, are you fucking crazy? It's like a nationwide, probably worldwide tour in front of theaters. We're not just going up there with our dicks in our hands. And I was like, oh, okay, well, that's how we do ours. That's why we are doing it in a bingo hall in Ohio in front of 150 people. And you sold out the Hulu theater in literally less than a second. I love that in that bingo hall, we all accidentally walked into the wrong room and SpongeBob had taken over.

Did we tell that story? Maybe. Where was that? Pittsburgh? No, that was in Cincy. Cincy. Cincy, we went to a theater, and in the theater is the main theater

and then the downstairs, which is a smaller venue. And I told John, I was like, this venue is pretty sold out. This is going to be like very close to a sellout and then we walked into the main theater and john goes this was we sold this out and i was like no i was like if this is the theater we're fucked because there's only gonna be like 300 people here and this has like 2 000 and they were like are you with kfc radio like yeah they're like yeah you're downstairs i was like sounds about right and that was actually

it was a it was a stage and a venue in its own right but i was like yeah we're not up there we're down here checks out um but what i said to that guy is it is it scripted and he was like yeah my and my reaction was kind of like oh okay all right i get it he was like it was like 80 scripted 20 off the cuff and it's all coming from her head anyway and it was like 80% scripted, 20% off the cuff. And it's all coming from her head anyway. And it's like, bro, I don't it doesn't matter anymore. She's probably whether she has someone writing it, she

writes all of it, half of it, whether it's a team effort, she goes out and performs it and sells it. And like at this point there is no critiquing or you can critique. There's no criticizing anything about the Alex Cooper operation anymore. It's bulletproof. I mean there's

she can she's proven that she can like fist a fucking turkey on the internet and then like sit down and talk about you know I don't know mental health with fucking Barbara Walters or whoever. Yesterday when you guys said to pull that video up somebody had been talking to the control room,

and I was like, what video? Like, did he? And one of the control room guys was like, someone with a turkey? I was like, I know exactly what you mean. Fucking a turkey? I was like, oh, I know exactly what you mean. The two things that really jumped out at me about her

is one, like how engaging and well-spoken she was after, you know, seeing kind of like the party side of her. It was like, oh, this girl is very – a good conversationalist now. And two, despite the fact that she still is like sex and raunchy, she for sure has pivoted to sit-down interviews, serious conversation and all that shit. And I feel like a lot of people who make a pivot like that often try to completely downplay or hide the original side of them like not many other people would have been like roll the fucking video of me spitting on a turkey and rubbing its clit and fisting it and like joke about it i think it would have been very much like cut the tape cut the feet like we're not doing that that's not me i don't want my people to find that out and so the fact that she's still like yeah you know suck his dick and finger the turkey

is wow people are like she's oprah it's cool i mean some people i i very much came to uh like accept it but i got a lot of messages from fans who were like fuck this or fuck that or i was like i don't know man i think it's pretty cool that a relatively regular girl I'm not gonna say she's like your average you know totally normal chick I think she's she's very pretty I think she had a successful family had like a little bit of a head start whatever you want to say but pretty much a regular girl just like picked out picked a picked a genre picked a avenue made a show did it and has has, like I said, probably going to be like a billion dollar operation. I think that's pretty cool.

If you're hating on that, you're just hating, but that's cool. I'm on board with blind hate, but you have to acknowledge that you're being a hater. I found out, they were so funny where they were like, can you guys wait like 10 minutes for us can we like hang out here longer

I was like bitch you can stay here the whole fucking day they were like do you have time to be in our documentary I was like yes abso-fucking-lutely they were like okay it'll be around like 2.15 like 3 o'clock rolls around I'm not doing yet they're like we're so sorry like it's

almost gonna happen I was like I will sit here until fucking midnight to be a part of the It'll be around like 2.15, like 3 o'clock rolls around. I'm not doing it yet. They're like, we're so sorry. It's almost going to happen. I was like, I will sit here until fucking midnight to be a part of the Unwell Media documentary. I'm sure they're going to edit. Probably not even use any of my footage. But yeah, they were like, can you send us the turkey footage? We'd love to include that. I was like, you can have everything, anything you want, guys. Don't you get what's going on here

i think i think liam caught me on stool scenes when she was like what do you put behind us for answer the internet and i was like whatever you fucking want like you know what's funny when i said you want to do answer the internet she said what's that i explained it to her so it's crazy questions from the internet she goes how crazy and i was like how what are you talking about you talked about jalapenos neat stuck up guys' dicks. What do you mean? I guess maybe she was like, is it going to be about Israel versus Hamas or something like that. But I thought it was weird that she even paused on that.

But then she let it rip on ATI, so that was cool. And the funniest thing of all, so she did the Tommy thing. Oh, this was great too. So she's doing Answer the Internet. She's done her video with Tommy and me and her are actually like

having a good back and forth a good rapport she did have one good gripe she was like my one thing that always pissed me off

was they never gave me a studio here and in hindsight she probably should have had her own studio but also in hindsight I think they were like you come to the office

for 45 minutes a week so we have this whole spot dedicated to just you that's you can't record anything else there but i said i was like you know because she was like part of my take at their own studio we had to go into like this little uh little like closet and hang up our own logos and i was like to be fair part of my take has a very very popular show yeah you should not be taking their studio what they probably should have done was you yanked me and

John's asses out of there you probably should have had our studio and she was like you're fucking right you're fucking right we should have had your studio probably I think game time could have been from home sooner yeah there was probably some other rooms here where we could have transformed it into her daddy's studio to make you know let them go make $10 million for us.

I'm not trying to shit on Game Time by any means, but their studio was bigger than Chicks in the Office studio. Yeah, Chicks in the Office were in a literal closet up until recently too. But that was a legitimate gripe. But when we were having that back and forth, her people came in and they were like, anything else you want to do for the documentary? She was like, why don't you talk to some of these guys? And she was like, talk to KFC. That's Kevin. You can talk to him.

And she turns. I wasn't going to make this story public, but it already is. I didn't want to do it to him, but Liam already just fucking rubbed Tommy's face in it. She turns. She goes, talk to KFC. That's Kevin over there. He can be in it. No more Tommy.

I'm sorry, guys. I can't do any more Tommy. I was like, oh my god and it was it was still like you know poking fun at him but it was definitely like i've had my fill of tommy he's gotten his fucking skits leave me the fuck alone we're not doing any more so uh i think that makes sense when you see what she participated in for the smoke show. That is... Dude, not only... I mean, she just, like, it took a lot of time.

As somebody who's done that to people. What's that? As somebody who's done that to people. Like, kind of bombarded them and, like, bummed them with, like, can you do this? Well, no, it's more like... What he did? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.

Yeah. Brutal. Brutal. Yeah. I want to give it away but what tommy did with alex would be awkward if you did it to like your best friend let alone you know a girl who's like you know a hundred levels above you professionally um so all in all a very weird experience but uh uh we'll see what that documentary brings. And I think the smoke show will be very, very funny. So HelloFresh.

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The boys. Just wanted to ask you if Francis Ngannou broke his way into the room with ill intentions, who would scream like a girl first? Francis Ngganou

is the baddest motherfucker on the planet, and I think I can say that with certainty, despite the fact that there's a million fighters, and a million criminals, and a million warlords, and like the good people, the bad people, the powerful people. Francis Nganou did something

like, he like something about like him getting dropped off in the desert and needed to like make his way home and he did like in in like the most ridiculous yeah let's see francis nagano desert story i heard this from rogan um cross the sahara drank dead animal water yeah and went to prison for a 14 month journey to france so i yeah so i think what happens is almost it's like a punishment they like just drop you off in the middle of the fucking desert and he just like did it and i think he did it twice or something crazy like that Desert Story it's Bober okay I think

it was like a smuggling thing Nagano traveled more than 3,000 miles across the Sahara Desert like that sort of shit that's the sort of stuff I remember when the Yankees were playing the Angels in the 2002 playoffs and the Yankees were supposed to win

and the Angels were underdogs and Irvin Santana was like a little known pitcher at the time stepped up and he pitched really well and afterwards the reporters were like can you believe you did this like wow against all odds like and he was like

I come from the Dominican Republic where my family lives on dirt floors like we live in a hut on dirt floors. Like me pitching this baseball game tonight that like I was the underdog in is not a big deal for me. Like I, you know, like the, so I'm sure for some people, and I'm not downplaying getting in the octagon because it's fucking crazy. But he's probably like, yeah, I don't know. I fight people for a living now. I can do that because I once crossed a 3,000-mile desert.

They boarded the Red Cross boat as victors. They knew the odds. The countless. So I guess it was like a smuggling thing of, let's see. They were in Cameroon. And they got like, they were basically on like a life raft. Nagano was the self-appointed captain of the raft, a flimsy thing built for four, maybe five, probably fewer. And the captain is 6'4", 240.

He could not swim. And he was the one who devised a departure plan from Tangier, found the local spot on the shore of the Strait of Gibraltar, rode them far enough to the mysterious Dark Sea, reached international waters, and then the Red Cross smuggled them in, and he crossed the Sahara Desert from Nigeria to Niger to Algeria to, like... It was crazy. Nagano had been pulled out of the water six times under different circumstances and dropped in a Moroccan desert or temporarily locked in a Moroccan

jail so I think he would get caught trying to smuggle like get smuggled in and they would just drive you out and leave you in a desert and he just kept coming back like that that kind of guy is and he's still like I think a very nice guy outside the octagon. I don't think I would scream. Because I think I would be frozen in fear. I don't know if I would scream. I would probably just be

completely frozen. You know who I would scream at my little girl? Pabst. He would do that little girly voice. He'd go, Ah! Next up. What's up KFC? Fightsie nick pavs shout out super producer bc uh that's you know long time listener i'm a 32 year old father now i've been listening since before i even had a wife and i've gone through the stages of life you know college living in the city now i'm in the suburbs i'm married one thing that i can't figure out is what what is the appropriate distance to wave to someone across the street?

That's just going to be about KC Radio. It doesn't matter how long you've been a podcast fan to talk about the appropriate distance to wave across the street. Finish it up. I don't think I quite even understand what it means. Like if you get close to somebody, you can't wave? One thing that I can't figure out is what is the appropriate distance to wave to someone across the street? Because it's elevated.

It's changed, you know, with my time here on the planet. What? You know, city life, you almost never wave to people. But in the suburbs, you know, new town, you wave to people just to say, hey, I'm the new person now that I'm a dad. And I'm walking my dog all the time. It's like I have people in cars waving at me. Do I wave back? And on top of that, I think the really confusing part is when you're walking a dog with another dog walker who's across the street.

And you have that awkward moment where you look up at them. And they're not looking at you, so you turn away. But when you turn away out of your peripheral vision. Wave culture is a wacky thing. Because there's like, you wave on the boat. If you're on a boat, you have to wave at people. If you're in a jeep, you honk at people and wave.

I get what he's saying about if you're in the city, there's so many people, it's all just head down and keep it moving. If you're in the suburbs, the streets are empty and you see one other person, you almost have to acknowledge, hey, other human who's out here right now like don't be alarmed or whatever the reason is um when you're walking the dogs you got to give a wave it's like an unspoken like hey we're

both out here early morning late night cold weather picking up shit together. That's, that's some camaraderie. Uh, it is tough when you, when you do the double take. I'm sorry. I was waving. I was going to wave to you, but you didn't see me, but now you're waving to me. So I want to make sure I feel like I don't wave. I wave back. I won't start a wave, but I will finish a wave. You know, I am down for as little contact with strangers as possible, but the minute you want, I wave to me. I'll wave to me. You want to talk to me? I'll talk. We can be friendly, but I'm not really into initiating. I don't need that. I don't need the high neighbor. People ask me, how are your neighbors? I don't know my neighbor's name.

I don't know. I've never seen my neighbor's face. I don't know how many people live there. If there was ever an emergency, I could not run to them. I got nothing. I know nothing. And the only people I do know from my kid's town are like, I basically am forced to know. And when I get to know them, they're perfectly fine people, but I'm just never going to seek it out. And that all begins with a wave. I don want to wave also i want to make a rule right now if you are under the age of 40 and maybe even upwards a little higher but i'll i'll do the cutoff at 40 as a guy you have to be able to dap it up we can't be doing firm handshakes certain certain instances you have to be able to dap it up. We can't be doing firm handshakes. Certain instances you have to do a firm handshake.

I get it. In social settings, if I see you, you're a coach of a baseball team, you're a guy, another dad at the park, whatever it is, we can dap it up. We can do a little that clasp into this clasp. We don't have to do the full handshake, this clasp, that clasp. But we can, we're not that old.

That's our generation. Like, you know, you know how old guys used to wear, like, suits and hats and ties everywhere they went, and then they stopped doing that? That's the same thing. We don't need to, like, do the fucking forearm shake, like, rawr. It's like, what's up, dude? How are you? I know you did that when you were growing up. I know you still

have that person in you you're not a completely lame asshole just tap it up we don't even worry about the wave whatever you see me done otherwise head down don't need to bother anybody but if you want to wave i'll wave back bolero bolero is the spot you didn't think back to all your favorite times in childhood where were you you? You were at the arcade. You were at the bowling alley. You were hanging out with the boys. You don't have to stop doing that. You can still enjoy endless fun at Bolero with unlimited bowling specials all week long.

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Hey KFC fights Jake Wallen. I got a would you rather for you. So would you rather be super obese like man titties and everything but have just a hog on you or would you rather be just shredded just ripped in as much muscle as you fucking want but have just a two-inch

punisher uh thanks people bye i mean this is the easiest question i've ever fucking answered in my life would i rather be absolutely morbidly obese and disgusting to the point that women probably don't want my dick at all so it doesn't fucking matter how big it is or would i rather be absolutely morbidly obese and disgusting to the point that women probably don't want my dick at all. So it doesn't fucking matter how big it is. Or would I rather be shredded and in shape and healthy and look hot and have clothes fit me right and look good when I'm naked, look good when I'm in a suit, look impressive and intimidating in every other setting and i just have to deal with the fact that for like the couple minutes you know a week i'm having sex my dick is not big and i do everything else make up for it with everything else in my body yeah i think i'll go with option You dummy. I cannot believe there are still people putting, who are like worried about dick size.

I just can't believe it. I mean, I'm just, I guess I say that just being comfortable with my dick. I guess if I didn't have a dick that I liked, I would be, maybe I would be agonizing over it like every second. But I'm just like really dude you're still like I guess if you had like a two-inch dick there would be a feeling of like you meet a new girl especially if you're hot I you know as I talk through it I'm not I'm definitely not picking morbidly obese but I do understand the idea of everything's going good and this girl is like

swoon he is so hot i can't wait to fuck him and there is an inevitable bomb of disappointment coming and that happens every time like every time you get naked the girl goes like i thought he was like prince charming i guess that sucks because there's something psychological about the fact that it's like i will inevitably disappoint you by you know date number three or however you want to whatever you want to say um and that that can fuck with you for sure but man the amount of time like all the other shit that matters like i said it's like you can wear whatever you want you're're feeling good. You're healthy. Girls want to be with you.

Everything else prior to your tiny dick is great. I mean, is there even a question from the girl point of view, Jackie? What do you mean, question? Like, as a guy, as a girl, would you ever pick a gross fat guy with a big dick? No, no, no. Or an incredibly shredded dude who has a small dick no no even if it was like he said two inches so we're talking like borderline you know not like micro penis but but you know normal human micro penis i mean two yeah yeah i mean i would definitely choose the shredded guy still over morbidly yeah it's

just you know not to say that you'd be like, it's not, two inches is definitely not like, oh, okay, I can work with that. It's definitely a problem. You'd have to be like, we do other things to make me happy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's ways to make up for it. It's still, I would think, you got to be a pretty fucking depraved chick to just want dick that much. Like I just need a dick that's perfect and I don't care that it's attached

to an animal. Yeah. Do you know who Ron Jeremy is? Uh, no. Google pull this up. First name, Ron,

last name, Jeremy. It's also only concerning just thinking of the possible um uh insecurity that would come with a two-inch stick that's the only other reason i'd be hesitant but other than that i'm still just spilled on myself like an absolute idiot okay who's ron jeremy did you google him yeah wait do you see what he looks like yeah he is one of the most prolific porn stars of all time okay growing up like i knew you know as as like a teenager and like growing up and going through puberty you knew all like the girl names jenna

jameson and them yeah and then we knew this guy ron jeremy i've watched that man i've seen that man naked having sex so many times. By the way, it turned out he's like a horrible dude. But he was this fat, gross, disgusting creature but he had like a nine inch dick and like, I think it was like

this weird thing where it was like look at this ugly guy fucking hot girls. There was some sort of like weird fetish going on. Girls don't operate that way. I don't think guys do either. I'm trying to think of an example, but it's not like pussies are good and bad, the way that dicks can be good or bad.

We talked about this before. Yeah, the girls have insecurities because it can look different or whatever but it's not going to be like that that pussy physically ruined the sex yeah that's never going to happen so you're so down to earth you're saying that you would get with a hot super hot fit chick over it's like i guess i guess if you if you told me i'm trying to think of the comparable if there was a world where it was like this girl is disgusting this is so shallow but like let's just say really really not attractive and but her pussy is like it feels incredible and then there's this really hot girl and it like hers is sealed up it doesn't work there's no there's this really hot girl and hers is sealed up. It doesn't work. There's nowhere to put it.

I guess to me it's like, ah, I would do other things. Yeah. And. She's got a mouth. She's got a mouth, you know. I think two inches is too small to do anything, right? I don't know i mean i mean because listen there's so there's guys with like you know six seven eight inch dicks who are like those aren't making girls come yeah you know yeah yeah yeah i think i think that's much more is it i i would think that it's there's

definitely a physical element of like i'm sure there are plenty of girls out there who at least once in their life like i want to just get like railed by a big dick but i also think that it's like a lot of it's like almost mental where it's like my man has a big dick sort of thing yeah it's like the technically four inches is like how shallow the vagina the vagina is naturally like it can like expand to yeah whatever but like four inches should be able to satisfy. So two is, you know, you're swimming in there with two inches. You're halfway there. I guess you're halfway to filling it up.

But I think it's one of those things that should be filled 100%, not 50%. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Again, there's other things. There's other ways. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Again, there's other things. There's other ways. Yeah. Well, and that's almost the vast, I would say the vast majority of the time, it's the other things that even the guys with the big dicks are doing. You know what I mean?

Yeah. Like, I think very few people have dick game to the point of, like, that's what I do to make her cum. And that doesn't include a girl sitting on top because that's like, okay, you're lending the piece of equipment, but they're doing all the work. Wait, wait, what are you saying? I'm saying even if you have a big dick,

chances are that's not what's making her come. It's the fingers and the mouth and everything else you do. So even in this scenario, it's like the dick doesn't even really matter that much in the end one way or the other. It's about, it's all about the other stuff. So you might as well have the shredded body. Yeah.

Interesting question though. Good. Oh, that was it, right? Yeah. Okay. We have an interview with Matt Reif, the biggest, you know, interview get of the year as far as comedy goes. Matt Reif, the superstar of the comedy world this year on KFC Radio. Let's talk to him.

Good to go. Matt Reif in the motherfucking building. We're doing it. We're here. I've been thirsty, man. I've been chasing you down for a while. Well, you're one of the few men on the internet to have ever been nice to me, so thank you.

I was excited to come here. Thank God, dude. Thanks for having me in. I definitely had a moment where I was like, don't DM this guy ever again. Just throw it, dude. Just throw it? Yeah, literally. Throw it.

Throw it right on the table. No, throw it on the table. You know what? Up for auction. Matt Rife chewed gum. We're going to start. You know what? No, wait.

Put it. Ugh, God. Throw it over here. It's not good. Oh, my God. Put it down. Put it. Ugh, God. Throw it over here. Weird one. Oh, my God. Put it down. Put it down. Kevin, we can't start the interview with I've been thirsty.

And then I catch your gum. Give me your DNA. We had. Jessa Rhodes. Jessa Rhodes' porn star came through. Just a bombshell. Yeah. And she.

No, wait. It was Edelman. No, no. No, we had a little DNA corner for a little while. We did. So. So. So. Oh, right. bombshell and she no wait it was edelman no no no we had a little dna corner we did so so so oh right so we had jessa rhodes spit our gum and we put it on like our wall of fame that's all just like you know behind the scenes no because shoot it because fucking like obviously our cleaning lady in the building came through and fucking cleaned it up no she was probably like these

these disgusting animals are just spitting their gum out on the shelves. So fired. And it was Edelman's dip fit. Julian Edelman's dip cut. Oh, that's disgusting. So we were like, oh, this is our guest come through and leave DNA. So we'll put the gum back up. Well, if you give me three to four minutes after the tape, I got you. We're selling that on eBay, dog.

Some chick in the Midwest is going to drop a fucking paycheck for that. That's terrifying to think about, dude. I remember when I was like 2003, I'm from Massachusetts, so I'm a Patriot fan. And like 03, Brady was on Letterman. And they were talking about how people want his DNA. And he was like, I've been offered a million

dollars for sperm and stuff like that. And Letterman, maybe the funniest thing I've ever heard Letterman say, said you should do it but just send Vince Wilforks. Oh, hilarious. This is not what I purchased. How mad you would be when your kid came out,

dude. Oh, that's so fucking funny. By the way, Vince Wilfork is a specimen in his own right. Yeah,

yeah. He's not Brady. But he ain't Brady. Was that around the same time that South Park episode came out where they were trying to collect his shit? No.

No, but I remember that too, though. Yeah. Okay, I don't know if it's a correlation or not. That shit? No. No, but I remember that too, though. Okay, I don't know if it's a correlation or not. That's so funny. People are crazy. I'm sure, you know,

you're getting there, bro. People are getting weird with you on the internet. I've gotten hair. I've gotten nipple piercings. Like, sent to you? Yeah. What do you mean nipple? Like, in a plastic bag,

like, their nipple piercing. Like, taking them out and gifted them to me. In, like like a cocaine bag No shit Photo albums of themselves Have fun or naked? No just like Childhood photos

Like life catalogs Guys and girls? Or girls? Girls Yeah Yeah Don't ask stupid questions No but

The dudes are coming around though dude Are they good? The beginning of this year, like up until April this year, like yeah, it was such a strongly prominent, like 80% women at these shows, fan base. Sure. But now, I mean starting probably around the time of my special when we filmed that in September, the shows are like 50-50 now, dude. It's fantastic.

I mean we've kind of had I guess almost the opposite is like in the beginning it was just all guys for Barstool and then I think specifically this show turned on a bunch of chicks to it and it's it's more split

than you think it's still gonna be like skewed guys but more collected it is crazy the grass is always greener where you're like

like I would kill to have 80% but even in the new specialty you're promoting now you're like at one point you're like if there were more dudes here

that would have hit harder that's the funniest thing dude it's I'm loving that it's transitioning because like girls will come to these shows and expect one thing

and then they'll realize my comedy is not for them right it's not because my shows aren't what you see on TikTok it's not just crowd work of me roasting a girl

like that happens maybe once every couple of shows for a couple minutes out of the show it's not a prominent part of the show so dudes will come a prominent part of the show. So dudes will come reluctantly, and then they'll leave being a way bigger fan than their girl. Right.

It's so funny. Just didn't get a chance. I would imagine how you end up where you're at, where you're fucking. I mean, some of the numbers that have been thrown around with your boy Matt Rife are big talk. It's nuts, man. All in a matter of a year. $29 million last year? I don't know how those numbers get out there.

I mean, Forbes, they expand a little bit. But I'm doing better than I was. Yeah. Better than I was. I would love to have a very candid conversation with you, if you don't mind. Always. I think you're a very interesting, almost case study, where it's like you are uh the internet is is a big part of your story men versus women looks on stage like all of it is very like it it tells

a very interesting story it's a lot but the the internet i feel like made that shit explode yeah not to say you haven't been doing it for a long time because you have Wild N' Out and other specials, but within the last, what, year, 18 months maybe? I guess like 14 months tops. Fucking crazy. Oh, yeah, dude. Last July, every single one of my friends knows I was looking at moving out of L.A. and quitting comedy.

No way, dude. Dude, I couldn't handle rejection that much longer. No idea. If I was just going to pick a normal job. I'm still young enough. I could still start over and still have a career imagine that right selling cars and shit couldn't do it i just i've been i've been in la for 10 years been doing comedy for 11 at that point and after so long you do like you're like dude am i delusional

yeah am i not maybe i'm not funny right myin' Out is successful, right? Yes, but I had a very specific niche role on there. The white guy? The white guy. Which is fun for a season. You literally were not allowed to do clever jokes. Any joke that I would try to say that was not about me being white on the show, crickets. People were like, stay in your fucking lane.

I'm so grateful for the opportunity and i learned so much being on that show yeah but it's not what i it's not what i wanted to do right that is such a thing where like like you someone can look at that be like dude just fucking print the money then who cares but you just get so bored so fast i imagine as a medium like i can only do this fucking area like that's like yeah you get pigeonholed very quickly which is the last thing I would want. I pride myself on trying to be as globally humorous as possible. I don't cater my material towards women or anything.

That's just my face. Which is still unfortunate. I got into a Dave the other day about it. I heard. It was characterized to me as Dave just refused to believe that you have any insecurities. Is that what it was? Is that correct?

Which is fine by me. You can believe whatever he wants to believe, dude. So insane to me that he could be so adamant about something that I'm like, I'm telling you right now to your face. Well, via a computer screen. Yeah, but that might have been your first experience with Dave. That surprises me zero percent. It's just so funny to think. I'm sure in his head he's like, you got money and pussy.

What else do you need? Girls like you and you are rich now. There's a billion other things that make a man. Yeah, he was not having it. It's so funny to think Dave was just like, you experience human emotion? I fucking – no. I know I fucking no I know how dare I how dare I have a heart and soul man he was so deadpan the entire time

but this is why it's like people's perception of you is whatever they want it to be you can only explain yourself you can only defend yourself to a certain extent and after that you go it's whatever you know what it is it's like when your reputation becomes your reputation it's your reputation you know what I mean? It's like when your reputation becomes your reputation, it's your reputation.

You know what I mean? Like the minute that it occurs, people think something about you, the horse is out of the barn, and that's probably going to be what they think forever until maybe they have a personal interaction or something. But how rare – that's very rare. Oh, absolutely. I mean I was excited to meet – I had never met anybody from a show before, but like Brie and all them were like – they were very – Yeah. I do think some – these can be like – these kind of appearances can be important because it's like people do go like, oh, shit. I had him pegged wrong or like, oh, I didn't know that about him. That's what you hope for.

I do get like when people are like – almost when people are like, do your research or like you didn't know that about that person. It's like, yeah, I'm just watching what I see on the fucking TV. You know what I mean? Not everyone is going to take interest and be like, let me learn about Matt Reif and his background and all that. But it is also – Only when it becomes like slanderous. Yes. Then it's like fuck off.

Then it's a problem. Now you're spreading rumors about me. The rumors I've heard about me are fucking hilarious, dude. It's usually plastic surgery shit. I can imagine that. It's the funniest fucking thing. The only thing I've ever had done is I got my teeth done because I'm from fucking Ohio. I grew up brushing my teeth with fentanyl, dude.

I've heard I have lip filler. I've heard I have jaw surgery. It's fucking insane. The buckle fat where they take the fat out of your cheeks. That's a thing? Yeah. I would have just did that and skipped puberty.

Dude, fuck. Tom Brady gets accused of this as well. I think Tom Brady might have done it, bro. We got Zlander's now. There's a certain perk of athleticism.

You're doing a lot of cardio. Granted, he was a quarterback and didn't rush a lot, but your face slims down. You go into the gym and work out, dude. He's a freak. Who knows what's going on? I think he's an alien. He's a freak. Who knows what's going on.

I think he's an alien. He's a fucking alien. I mean, that's, you know, it's tough with, I, I think. Sorry to interrupt real quick. The, I, I, we don't get many rumors about us here. But I would take yours over. Yo, your face is so pretty. You have gotten surgery i'll take it no it's just a weird thing because here's the thing that'll instantly negate them liking my comedy as if they should have anything to do with each other well mine is that i suck

dick in a bar in boston so shout out hurricane o're He did. Not that I remember. That's hilarious. Not that I remember. It is. Like, I can't go. I can't go. It's a bar right outside TD Garden where the Bruins play. Very convenient for me to go get a beer at before a game. Gotta go to a different one because I can't even walk in. Oh, if you ever get seen, if there's ever a picture of you in 2023 in Hurricane O'Reilly's,

I'm like, you dumb motherfucker. Did it spawn from a real story of you being there at one point? I'm sure. I used to go all the time. I used to suck dick in Hurricane O'Reilly's, I'm like, you dumb motherfucker. Did it spawn from a real story of you being there at one point? I'm sure! I used to go all the time. I used to suck dick in Hurricane O'Reilly's. I don't get it. I don't get why they're doing it. No, it was... We have a very toxic fan base. You sure do.

They're going to hate everything about everything I say on this podcast. It's going to be great. Yeah, I was going to say, don't even look at the feedback. Not the KFC radio fan base. The Barstool fan base. But they – I think it was a Reddit thread was just somebody – people used to say I was moving to South Carolina, like just fucking totally fabricated.

And this one was, I saw Fidel Berg once sucking a guy's dick in the bathroom of Hurricane of Rallies. And they'll be like – And it'll catch fire. That's so fucking funny. There'll be a live show or, I don't know, people walking down the street and you'll just hear like, yo, are you going to Hurricane O'Reilly's for the bird? No, it caught on that heavily.

Oh, this was 10 years ago. It still is. You might as well just suck the drink. People are going to blame you for it. I say go for it. Oh, here's the deal. I don't care about it at all. I didn't do it, but I'm not like, you shut the fuck up.

Don't say it. Yeah, the more defensive you would get about it, the more people would be like, you swallowed. You got him. But if I'm going to suck a dick, I'm not doing it in a bar bathroom. There's better places. It's really not Hurricane O'Reilly. Yeah, somewhere classy. Like an Arby's.

Or a club or something. Yeah. I've got rumors about me, too, but they're much more. They're all related to they're terrible my rumors are fucking terrible Jesus Christ it's crazy

so they're not as fun to laugh at but but yeah once like there's a couple that I'm like I and then once you once you deny it

it's like oh oh oh yeah but it's like what else are you supposed to do it's like I do get it I used to be like when I would watch celebrities

operate with their PR and they would be like no comment or whatever I'm like oh I'm making it worse but it's like, I do get it. I used to be like, when I would watch celebrities operate with their PR, and they would be like, no comment or whatever. I'm like, oh, you're making it worse. But it's like, but then when you talk about it, you give it life. And if you deny it too much, they think it's real. And it's like, how about just fuck all of you? Oh, yeah. Dude, I mean, to create a rumor, you have to be the biggest fucking loser on the planet.

You have nothing going for you. Not a single successful person would ever do it. Creative, creative yeah but you're not monetizing off you're a fucking moron but a coward a cowardly creative it's so wild to me yeah you have to be such a loser to even do that i can't i can't stand that shit but i mean for you especially so you know you you've had whatever some success some ups and downs for a course of, you know, 10, 15, 12 years, whatever. And then you go from, like you said,

I'm, I'm looking for spots and I'm looking for work to wildly viral, which comes with ticket sales and all the good shit. But then also like a ton of fucking negative bad press or not bad press, but bad, you know, bad interactions, whatever it may be. A lot of haters.

Like if there's, if you have some sort of trajectory, you kind of get used to it as you go. But I feel like you got thrown from zero to 100, zero to 1,000. Yeah, people will have a problem with what they think is your overnight success. As if it affects them in any capacity whatsoever. Why are you bothered by? Yeah, it doesn't affect you. Why would my success have anything to do with you but it's i get by the same time i

get it i also i i've been jealous of people i've had my own insecurities i've been envious of people i've disliked people purely by their face i get it so i like i'm not in a position like why don't you guys like me please like me i don't i fucking get it it's fine yeah but i would say come to a show i think i'll change your mind yeah as much as dudes give me shit dudes leave my shows way way more happier than females that would say like they just don't even give me the chance i also just don't think i mean i think it's just so very obvious obvious if you are uh openly like commenting or going out of your way to hate on Matt Rife, it's like you're obviously doing it out of a jealousy or an insecurity thing.

You know what I mean? There's just no other reason to be doing it. It's a good-seated way to feel, though. To be like, I'm in a position that people feel jealous of me feels fucking weird. You don't have to say it, but I'll fucking say it. It's like, yeah, if this guy's selling out arenas, obviously gets a lot of female attention, people say he's good looking,

he's millions of views, now on Netflix, it's like, I think you... If none of that was happening, people wouldn't be talking about Matt Rife. I guess that's true, yeah. No one disliked me this much when I was on Wild and Out, which I gave them plenty of reasons to hate me on that show.

I hated myself. How dare I colonize Wild and Out, which I gave them plenty of reasons to hate me on the show. I hated myself. How dare I colonize Wild and Out, dude? Should have been in trouble for that a long time ago. No, had no problem with that. It wasn't until we started moving tickets and touring the world we finally got some fun. You know what I'm jealous about with you? What's that? Is that you can wear

a beater just for the whole day. Which is crazy because you look like you would wear one despite what people think. For sure. You look like you'd wear one and name it what it is. I almost said the full thing. I was like, I'll call it a beater. People stop calling it a wife beater?

I don't know what else it's called. Isn't that on the packaging? I call it a guinea tea, so that's not much better. That's way worse. Hilarious. Did not say that. I believe, actually, on the package, it says A-shirt. A-shirt?

Like A-shirt. The letter A. That's very confusing. Because it looks like an A or something like that. What are you wearing, a shirt? Yeah. I think. That's terrible marketing.

It's the worst. They should put wife beater on it. Yeah. Nobody calls it that. It is funny. I mean, I grew up with a lot of Guido Italian guys who, you know, just wife beaters were in my face and in my vocabulary. In your family, most likely. No, I'm a white trash mix.

So I'm the other side of it with the Irish. But, like, I never thought about I never thought about the fact that like how casually we were just like, if you wear that shirt, you beat your wife. Is that what it was? Well, I think that's when it came. I thought it was I thought its origin was it was used

to beat wives. Oh yeah, because that would do damage. Wait, what is it like the towel trick? The whole time I was like, yes! Let me ask you something. Are you fucking retarded? I think. You thought the shirt was used to beat the wife? Yes. Like a rat tail?

They used belts, dog. They would have named belts wife beaters if that was the case. They fucking hit you with their fits. Yeah. I'm learning all the, like, I knew it was crazy. I was like, why would they use that? No, I think it was just because it was the stereotypical uniform of the drunk, abusive dad. It makes so much more sense.

It just happened to look good. You know what I mean? If Hitler's mustache would have looked good, we probably wouldn't have got rid of it. You know what I mean? But he's a piece of shit, and he ruined a whole facial hair column. A whole name, a whole facial hair. Not a name. Not the name.

I have a friend named Madoff. Nuh-uh. It was in high school. You don't know one person with that mustache, though, a whole facial hair. Not a name. Not the name. I have a friend named Madoff. Nuh-uh. It was in high school. You don't know one person with that mustache, though, do you? Nope. Not alone, dude. MJ had it for a minute. MJ?

Yeah, Michael Jordan. He's in a Hanes commercial with it. No way. It's not the weight. It's a little wider, but he definitely took a razor out here. It's very, because of his skin tone, you don't see. It's such a stark difference with Hitler. Yeah,

yeah, yeah. There's hair and no hair. MJ kind of blends in, but he did cut it pretty close. Yeah. Pretty close. I'm surprised there wasn't

anybody on his team being like, let's take the holding off. Well, you're the best basketball player in the world. You can do whatever you want, man.

You can wear as many white beards as you want. It was a Hanes t-shirt. That's so funny. That's what he brought. It was where I was watching the special last night and I was like, damn, man. When I put one on...

Did they send you the new one? Yeah. I didn't even know that. Oh, shit. Yeah, we got the screener. Netflix is a whole thing where it just pops up on my Netflix. Yeah, it's pretty cool.

Thank God. I haven't been on it yet. If we get screeners, you've got to jump through a million hoops. I can imagine. It's like most viewed, top ten in America, and then it says like for you or screeners or whatever. Interesting. But I was watching it.

I was like, damn. Because as you know, since you're wearing one in the special, they've come back into fashion a bit. A little underneath the short sleeve button down. Of course. And I was like, I'm going to dive in on this a little bit. So I bought a couple. No. And dude, by – I haven't heard of this yet. You in on this a little bit. So I bought a couple. No. And dude, by –

I haven't heard this yet. You haven't heard this yet? No. So two things I did. What brand? I need to buy Equity ASAP before the special comes out. So I'm sure it was just like I went on Prime. So I'm sure it was Hanes or whatever.

Okay. And so first of all, did you know how long they were? I feel like I do remember them being like – because maybe you're supposed to tuck them in. You are supposed to tuck them in, yeah. I remember them being like almost down to like my knee. Yes. It was just funny to think about because if the dude is not wearing pants, you're just basically getting beat by a dude in a dress, which is even more – It's flowing around.

It's like swishy as he's fucking swinging at you. Just the print of his soft dick. Yeah, no good for anybody. Imagine that. So – No. Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt No I'm so happy you did

Because So I put it on And a girl I was I was hooking up with I was like This is I was in the bathroom And I was like

This is kind of funny She was out doing her hair And I was like This is kind of funny I'm gonna go out It looks like a dress So I went out And I was like

Hey And then And she looked at me And went, go put pants on. No. Like, this is not even funny. Like, the full ick on her. I was like, oh, I just. I'll never fuck you again.

I'm never going to fuck that person again. Like, this is completely. You entirely turned her off in one outfit, dude. Disgusted her. Absolutely. I don't blame her. I do not blame her. Was it below your ass?

Oh, yeah. That far? Oh, my God. I'm kind blame her. Was it below your ass? Oh, yeah. That far? It was like out of here. I'm kind of mad you didn't show up in it. You're going to have to take some pictures now. That's not the thumbnail for this episode? Yeah. That's so funny.

It was a little bit. It was disgusting. But then I was like, whatever. I'm wearing this shirt anyway. And I came home. Because when you put it on, it's still tight. Yeah. So it sucks it all in a little bit.

But Matt gets to. It doesn't matter if it gets loose. Definitely. I came home and I took my shirt off, bro. It was repulsive. Oh, no. It looked like. Just all stretched out.

It looked like Vin Diesel in Fast and Out. Oh, no. Where it's just like all this extra skin. And so it is. It's not for me. It's not. I took. I took. I dipped my toe into the Matt Rife wardrobe.

I'm not even going to ride. Fashion action for wife beaters, dude. Jesus. Oh, man. I never even thought about the repercussions of my fashion actions. Imagine that if, like, you know, MJ made bald heads cool and Jennifer Aniston had the Rachel. Maybe you'll bring back the wife beater. Yeah, that's what I want Rachel. Maybe you'll bring back the wife beater.

Yeah, that's what I want to be. We'll call it the wife beater. It'll bring back domestic abuse. Let's call it the wife beater. Let's do it. The wife beater? I don't like that at all. Shut it down.

Let's make a clip right now. Also, new merch dropping around Christmas time. That is genius. That is great, dude. Bum, bum, bum. Canceled. Now, let me ask you, though. If you had gotten plastic surgery, who fucking cares?

Right? But it's like I didn't. That's the funny thing. I don't get what people's obsession are making up. I got hair plugs before. People thought I got hair plugs because I was. Really? Oh, I thought you were just saying you did get them.

No, I had gotten that as a rumor or whatever because I was like 29. I never really looked at what I looked like until I started working here and then the fans would pick everything. Oh, you're fat here. You're skinny here. You're ugly there. And I took one picture and they were like, damn, you're bald. Jesus. And I looked at it and I was like, oh, shit oh shit i kind of am going bald i was losing it in the front and then i got on propitia so i'm on the pills for it and it kind of it stopped it and i think almost like grew it back a little bit but people were like you had to have gotten hair plugs oh

they'll go in and um but i'm also like i don't know i'll take that makes me feel good that it looks good enough that you thought i got a fucking surgery. What astonishes me is the confidence. I've had people be like, I showed a picture of Matt Reif to my plastic surgeon. He said, I had this done and this done and this done. I go, congratulations, you have a completely retarded doctor. And also, you're a fucking psychopath. What do you think about this guy? That's a whole cottage industry.

The plastic surgeons doing like the, well, they had this and this and that. Dude, it is nuts. The lengths people will go to to just be upset. But I do have to think that's just coming from the success, right? It's like, I don't think you should. Yeah, nobody really cares. Well, I mean, it's come in spurts. It's like when I was younger, nobody would like me because I was like the young, like up and coming guy, I guess. So it's like, I don't know you should. Yeah, nobody really cares. Well, I mean, it's come in spurts. It's like when I was younger, nobody would like me because I was like the young, like

up and coming guy, I guess. So it's like, I don't know if it's threatening. I don't know if they just don't like that new people are, you know, stepping into their profession or whatever. So, I mean, it was rarely love from the start. Obviously, it was a handful of comedians who did fuck with me, who gave me a lot of opportunities and always gave me the benefit of the doubt and actually did help me and was supportive of me.

Who do you think was like your best, biggest supporter? There's a handful. Ralphie May was a huge one. That was like my big brother. He helped me out tremendously. When I moved to L.A. for the first time, he used to take me to lunch and would buy me like – he would maybe order like four or five meals, which was a normal meal for him. I was going to say.

I mean you're not surprising me here. But he would say he would be like, no, we're going to get get it to go and now you have leftovers for the rest of the week like he was the best guy he took me he took me my first theater tour which i spent every penny of that to get my teeth done actually when i was 19 we were talking i don't think you were here yesterday but we were uh i talked to fran and ria chicks in the office after they talked to you and they were talking about the plastic surgery thing and ria was like if there's anybody who knows how much teeth can change your look you're looking at it and one of her fiance marty had jacked up oh dude mine were the same and then he got it fixed really like it changed his whole face and they're engaged now

and like teeth i don't see a big deal about because people get braces all the time i just took i just took the faster thing right that's all it was i guess that's the thing though there's a quick before and after i don't know yeah which like i could care less about yeah i could have got braces but i would have had them for like five years yeah that wasn't about to go from 19 to 24 and fucking braces yeah that would be so embarrassing adult braces are out of this fucking... I did braces in my senior year of high school. That's pretty late, too. Did you have the rubber bands and everything?

Yeah. I only had like six months or something like that, three months, some short period of time. I needed them. We just couldn't afford them. So I was like, I guess I'm just this creature now, I guess. And then puberty kicked in, and I was like, all right, now I'm this creature.

If I just don't smile, I think no one will notice. That's normal. To this day, I don't smile a lot with my teeth showing. You're so used to it. I never smiled with my teeth growing up. I genuinely don't really know how. It feels so weird. I know. I know. Because you were just fucking roasted every time anybody saw you. Some would say

an insecurity. Some would say. Interesting. But you have money and sex. It doesn't matter that your teeth were made fun of for 20 years. Money doesn't buy respect. Neither does pussy. But it does buy you new teeth.

Thank goodness. These four are fake. Really? Do you have veneers? Yeah. I chipped them so constantly. When I was a kid, I would chip them playing sports and all that. And then I never – Constantly is a funny way to describe it.

Yeah, constantly. It was just – it would like – I would get it like temporary fix and then that would break and that would break. Oh, I see. I had a broke one. I constantly had a new thing and I lived like a pussy childhood. I should say a couple times a year. But it was every time – That's a lot, dude. To it was every time that's a lot to chip a tooth

permanently once is a lot yeah let's just fucking fix it I actually gotta fix this one has a crack in it right now

it's gonna go it's gonna go like I'm gonna bite into a sandwich and it's gonna go and I'm gonna look like you know I broke up in here

like that from Mendocino Farms the sandwich restaurant. It's all over California. I bit into an almond in a sandwich and just broke my entire fucking canine tooth. I was so embarrassed. It was on a date, actually.

I left. Did you? I didn't even show her. I put my napkin up to my mouth. I was like, I just broke my tooth. I have to go to a dentist right now. I'm so sorry. I just left. Do you I have to go to a dentist right now. I'm so sorry. I just left.

Do you have a glass of milk? Oh, you're just 10 years too late? Yeah, of course. I had my dad one time. My dad's front teeth are fake. And we were just sitting at dinner, and he sneezed. And his teeth went flying across the table. But I was young enough.

What? You thought he sneezed that hard? I was like, what? Just teeth flying out of your mouth. I'm never sneezing ever again. Asshole just prolapsed. How hard is that sneeze? You know a dad sneeze.

Ah! Yeah! I was like, what? Wait, were they like snap-on? Yeah, he had like snap-on. Doesn't Jim Carrey have like, when he did like Dumb and Dumber, he had like the half of his tooth? Yeah, I think so.

That's his real tooth. Yeah, that chip he would like cover up. Yeah. It's just kind of gangster. I would love it. I love when actors go that far and like change their teeth for real for a role. That guy, he should have been selected. Like Adriana Cechik did.

Wait, what'd she do? Adriana Cechik had their fucking teeth filed in the back. So she could give deep throat better, according to her. What an angel. Talk about commitment to your craft. She's talked about it. So she filed her teeth, and she eats and trains and everything to the point that she's like, I'm a motherfucking athlete.

I treat my body like my moneymaker it is. So she's like, she goes after it. She deserves all the props in the world for what she fucking did. I give her one thumbs up. The other one's busy, obviously. Filed her teeth down. Not just going to the dentist and be like, file these. And he's like, why?

Just fucking do it. I'll show you after. I actually have no money to pay for this. But dude, you know how they say that a dentist can tell if you've sucked dick in the last week? No, they can't. Yeah, because the blood vessels pop in your throat. So I think that has been-

The fact that you know this is so funny. Did she tell you this? No, it went viral. And I don't want to ruin the fun but i do think a dentist said like it's not like that obvious i think you can tell but it's not just like a girl opens her mouth and it's like girl you've been sucking dick but the the it is yeah the the buzz vessels pop so when adriana chadwick went in her dentist didn't ask like why, why? He was like, by all means. I thought you were going to ask this about two years ago. That's amazing.

I wonder if that guy puts that, like, kind of in his portfolio of, like, okay, we can get the eyes done, we can do this done, we can do that. And also, if you want to, you know, be able to suck bigger dick deeper. I never would have guessed that. File down those teeth. She has, like, great teeth. What are left? I guess those back ones. Who knows? Imagine if she just had none in the back. She has great teeth. What are left?

Those back ones. Who knows? Imagine if she just had none in the back. Oh my god. Like getting your dick sucked from a Kit Kat commercial? Yeah, just separate teeth. Oh man. I didn't know this about her. I hosted the AVNs at the beginning of this year. I met

all my childhood heroes. They were all so sweet heroes she was so sweet she wasn't she had supposed to co-host until she actually broke her back that was scary of all the times in her career she thought her back was gonna get broken well that was the other thing prior to her really fucking up her back uh her vertebrae up here was fucked up and the doctor was like this is from pile driver no she goes all the way back and it pushes on the ground and doctor was like, this is from Piledriver. No. Because she goes all the way back, and it pushes on the ground. And he was like, you need to stop doing this, because it's going to fuck up your spine.

And she was like, don't care. Holy shit. And then freak accident, which hurt her. But if it was the Piledriver, she was like, I'm going to keep doing it. Wow. Dedication. That's Ronnie Lott, the Niner. Ronnie Lott.

You know, my finger's broken, pop it right back in. Get back in there. Get back in there. That is so funny. They dedicate themselves to the craft, dude. You go to that award show and you think you're just going to be making fun of them the whole time. You can't, dude. It's like

the Oscars to them. You're in their world. If you start making fun of them, it's like, fuck you, loser. They're all aware. They know what they do I mean, you're in their world. If you start making fun of them, it's like, fuck you, loser. Here's the thing. They're all aware. They know what they do is funny, but it's still their profession. I've always said,

out of all the people we've met in every industry, they're the nicest, most down-to-earth, a lot of them very business savvy. Yeah. They get it. I know it's fucking weird, but whatever, you know?

No, but they've had hosts go on there before, because it's usually comedians on there. They've had hosts before. They said Aries Spears went on one time. It was like, I want to give a shout out to all the dads who left. You know what I mean? They did not like that.

You had to do lighter, harder shit. One of the dumb things I said was like, Luna Starr is here. Luna Starr sucks so much, Dick the Laker signed her. Stupid stuff like that where it's still complimentary. And she did get to meet her actually. She was so nice, dude. Do meet all your heroes. Do meet all of them, for sure.

We used to have Asakira used to co-host the show. No way. She was our third mic for like a year or so, yeah. Oh, wow. She was great. She was fucking great. I don't think she was there that year. I had, it was Abella Danger co-hosting with me.

Abella's been on the show many times. Really? Yeah. Oh, yeah. She's awesome. She took us to 11. Really? Yeah.

Well, she's an apartment there, right? I think she has a residency. I was about to say residency, but I think it's like a literal residency. I hate it every second of it, dude. Miami is too much for me. You're not a club guy? I'm not a club guy. And also, I usually get done with shows around 1 a.m., right?

So instinctually, when she invited me out, I was like, well, it closes at 2. So she goes, no, Rick Ross is performing tonight. I go, realistically, I got to go home and shower. I want to get changed before I would go out and stuff like that. I probably won't get there until like 2.30. She goes, Rick Ross doesn't go on until 4 a.m. I was like, that is insane. She was like, do not get there before 2.30 a.m.

You were a fucking loser. What? I think when we went there it was like midnight oh you guys were like eating breakfast or something people were fucking like the the staff was like walking around being like people on there oh yeah you've been disturbed in the daytime people just on their phones yeah this is depressing oh yeah i'm 28 so but you're still like you know you can still do you party you drink no no yeah i'll like i'll have a drink for an occasion right it's somebody's birthday club or something like that no i drink probably

once every other month something like did you ever when you were a kid or you know yeah when i was like 20 and got a fake id like 20 to 23 i would go out a little bit, but now, dude, I hate clubs. And I've also, like, around that age of growing up, I was in L.A., and L.A. clubs are the worst, dude. Really? I've never been around such a – what's the word I'm looking for? Pretentious, uppity group of people. Like, when I go out, it's, like, with my specific group of boys. They're like, we'll dance, we'll crack jokes, we'll have fun in our little group.

And people will look at you like you're an asshole if you're having fun in the club it's all just people getting dressed up being on their phones and like seeing whose table they can get at but it's like you look like a fucking idiot yeah we're not having any fun we had a dj cypher sounds you know he said the the death of because he he's dj'd you know in every forum he said the death of – because he's DJed in every form. He said the death of the club was bottle service because it used to be like you would get your drinks at the bar, but there was a dance floor. Yeah. And then it was like we're going to rope off this section for bottles, and then like a big wig would come and do that, and then like another big wig would want to up him. Yeah.

And all of a sudden it's like $50 thousand dollars for a table or whatever it was and they just kept adding tables and it just closed the dance floor and then there was so there's no dance floor nobody's dancing and he said he would just watch like he like he said one time he would get to the club and be like uh all right like um i need the light he's like we got to move those tables out of the way so there's like the dance floor and they were were like, oh, no, no, no. It's table service. He's like, but there's nowhere to dance. And they're like, yeah, we don't fucking care.

Which sucks. Because it's like, that's why I also think music sucks now. Because it's like rap and pop hits. You want to move to it? You could be like the baddest, toughest guy in the club. He was even talking about it. There was a club in New York called The Tunnel. And it was like the police used to wait at the fucking door to like as people were going in like

looking at their lookbook like bad motherfuckers went there but then they'd be like get your hands up you know like let's party and now that's fucking dead it's just look yeah dude what's the most recent song people are like singing along to in a club i should have fucked your brother olivio brian that is not a song is it really dude this girl used to date uh the icing on the cake is she used to date jake paul and the song is i should have fucked your brother, Olivia O'Brien. That is not a song. Is it really? Dude, this girl used to date, the icing on the cake is she used to date Jake Paul and the song is I should have fucked your brother.

No, she used to date Logan. Logan, okay, sorry. That's fucking great. Matt, I just discovered this song.

He's been talking about it. Is it fire? It's fire, dude. It's so self-aware. It's so self-aware. Lyrically, let me tell you. She's like,

I should have, like she hitsyrically she's like i should have like she hits the notes everything i should have fucked your brother there's one you guys are the same height but he's got a couple inches on you banger heat and then that's bars and it is i should i'm gonna fuck your brother if i got time i'll fuck your mother not even the death wow is he is he i can't get enough of this song yeah i'm gonna have to listen to this as soon as we leave here too it's like it's it's pure bubblegum pop but that's what i like and i love it there's so many songs now that like they become popular and some of them i'm like oh it's actually a good song and then tiktok beats them to death like a song that i might have had on my playlist

i go i don't ever want to fucking hear this ever again well because as soon as you open your phone it's on every fucking play too it's just like yeah man it's so frustrating we've kind of been doing like a segment type deal with like the internet ruins everything we're just like we have access to too much absolutely you just get you you like human instinct you get sick of things too quick and it's like when you just hit me with it like even the radio play like radio hits used to get tiring but you have to be in the car at the right time right time you only heard it a few times now it's like in an hour you hear it a million times yeah and you just naturally want to rebel against it and it's like i can't enjoy anything anymore oh absolutely and it's not that i i want

to i'm i desperately want to enjoy things. Think about when your favorite song comes on in the club or you catch it in the car. You're like, oh, fuck, I love this song. Meanwhile, it's been in your phone all day and you're like, I don't want to fucking hear that. There's something about that. Same thing with TV. It's like if Braveheart popped on TNT, I'd be like, oh, I'm watching this for the next three hours. But I have the DVD sitting right there.

But there's something about stumbling upon it. You know what? I might have just had an epiphany as to like – we were talking earlier about the – like getting hate for having success, right? And like TikTok being my main platform. Like I know like from October of last year to like april of this year like everybody anybody i met with like you're all over my algorithm you're all over my algorithm right which is an amazing thing the belt thing the the belt thing was fucking insane to me so ridiculous but i give these beatings to all children with a belt yeah that's what i call it a rice beater yeah yeah special

coming soon but i just as we're talking about music and how it's you hear it all the time, you kind of get tired of it. I bet the same thing happened with my videos. I mean, totally. It might have liked the first couple of them. The overexposure. Overexposure could hurt you, yeah. It's not necessarily even your fault. It's just like, and even like, it's happened to me where I'm like, I like this person, but enough.

Which totally sucks. Like the Taylor Swift, Travis Kelsey situation, right? It's not that football fans hate Taylor Swift swift they probably don't give a fuck but it's the fact that you know if you're cramming it down someone's throat you're like okay i like this i don't love this but that's not you that's the fucking tiktok algorithm you know yeah that's very true but so what are you supposed to do what are you supposed to do to not go viral not sell out not so you know it's like i you know give me your account i'll be all right i'll take care of it we're almost at 18 on tiktok and we'll probably hit 6 million on instagram by the end of the day yeah i'll take 20 minutes but it's funny because there was even

there was even a lull a lull in that momentum because i've had such problems with social media i've had my instagram deactivated i think five times uh tiktok i constantly have bugs with my profiles that, like, my videos will just get taken down. China, bro. China. You can't control it, right? Like, when that momentum started to happen. They are the overlords. Like, if they – I've been shadow banned on Instagram where, like, my growth just stopped.

Same. I was just like – I got – when all this momentum happened beginning of this year, I gained – I went from, like, 1.5 million to 5 million in like a month and then my instagram got taken down for like three weeks and since then i've gained i'm about to hit my first million of growth since then in like four months what uh but it just killed the momentum way to get taken down for we apologize we made a mistake are you fucking kidding me wait how am i supposed to promote shows i thought you were yeah that's what i thought you were giving like a can like a like no comment answer yeah no no no that's what instagram has said every time i pick them down my house gone like as a rife would be like you're not found

yeah i can go to my account i can see it on my phone nobody else can see it no it's not searchable it's it does not exist how long did that happen i was uh i the longest i've ever had it was two years ago for three months. I didn't have Instagram for three months. And it keeps happening. Keeps happening. I mean, that's 100% some shady shit. The most recent was earlier this year. Yeah, but it's like, without Instagram, before TikTok, I had no other means of promoting shows.

So I was just fucked. I was like, I hope people come. That's like foul play, right? It's super, but it's an an independently it's a private owned company they can kick you off there they don't have to give you any explanation at all that's where

whenever like I once I started to get shadow banned I asked our social media guy like can we can we talk to somebody at Instagram like I'm sure we can clean this up maybe I said something stupid

violated a rule like get the get the the strike taken away and he was like he was like they don't give a fuck. They won't even do that for Dave. They won't even do that

for mega celebrities because it's just like, we don't need you. You know who they do it for? Women. Really? When I had my Instagram taken down and I was doing posts on TikTok

or Twitter or wherever I could reach people to be like, can anybody help me get my account back? The only people that hit me back were hot girls that went, I know a guy who did it for me. No way's 1000 percent their individual choice clicks a fucking button yeah that's literally all it comes down to they have complete control whether they

feel like doing that or not you can have people be like yeah you pay me 10 grand i'll give you your account back i'm like go fuck yourself yeah i'd rather start over than give you money yeah which sucks because i but also when you're talking about Your numbers bro It's probably worth 10 grand Yes It's like fuck this guy But as a business choice

You would think But that's why I'm really adamant About spreading those followers To other platforms So I'm not reliant on one If something gets taken down People can still have access

To the things I'm posting Shows going on sale Whatever it may be Sure Which is I hate that this stuff Even has an effect on me because I hate social media. My dream

is to become so successful I don't ever have to open my fucking phone to an app ever again. Cannot stand it. I think it's the worst place. Jack Nicholson, that's kind of what Jack Nicholson just had where he was doing movies, not social media, but it's his social media. Doing movies? No, like I'm saying

he's like, I'm done with him. I'd rather just hang out under a tree and read a book. Interesting. I get it. I read that. That's the dream, isn't it, Jackie Boy? There's no part of you that's like, without social media,

I wouldn't have made $25 million this year? Oh, 100% of me feels that way. But it's... I'm going to get torn to shreds for even wording it this way, but it's sacrificed my happiness also hate it. I'm going to get torn to shreds for even wording it this way, but it sacrifices my happiness. Yeah. I don't enjoy editing. I don't enjoy learning how to set up a camera.

Hell no. Like I don't enjoy having to promote my shit. It's not fun for me. Right. That's work. Yeah, that's actual work. And then to get frustrated about your account getting taken down. It's just an unnecessary stress to your actual livelihood.

Do you know what I mean? I'm counting numbers. I'm looking at like, you know, did this do better or worse? Exactly. I don't want to do any of this. But now I'm in a position where I'm completely reliant. You know what I mean? Without social media right now, I wouldn't be as relevant as I am.

I think you – it went so fast, but I think you are good now. No? No, I don't think so. You think about how fast... Dude, think about Gangnam Style. It was the biggest song in the world for a couple years and nobody fucking talks about that. Hold the phone. Did you see what

Psy just did? Oh, that stadium thing? You might have picked it wrong. Psy does stadiums regularly still, dude. In Asia, right? You know what I'm saying? It's a specific demographic, right like that makes sense to me if you if you it's not respected social social media success is not respected i agree that is a fact for sure regardless of what you're successful for doing on there you could be fucking mozart if you blew up

on tiktok as mozart people would be like you're just a tiktok musician thousand percent but that's always going to be the new thing i think there will be a new thing soon because that was blogging yeah then it was podcasting it's so fucking ignorant it's so dumb right to be like but now like it's it's pretty quick where it's like it's like 10 years ago it was like i was scared like a blogger is a regular job now yeah a podcaster is a regular job yeah they're like i used to be like scarlet letter i'd be like i i'm a writer i uh i'm a radio host i never wanted to say blogger or podcaster now it does but i like how fucking ignorant you have to be and you don't realize how old and out of touch you sound to be like you're you made your following on like social media it's

like fucking yeah you idiots but i think the problem is is that because of the algorithm like what what tiktok does is brilliant is when people join the app for the first time they push your shit yeah so everybody gets instant gratification with their posting right so yeah anybody can get lucky i got lucky i did not do anything specific to my crowd work clips besides be as funny as i possibly can in them but that okay you didn't make anybody different in the social media but like your crowd work clips stand out amongst other crowd work clips oh well thank you thank you like there is and and i i want to go back to when you're saying the comedians that helped you and i feel like are there comics who don't like you because of social media uh because i i think like you could put that on I don't care what fucking platform it is

what algorithm it is some of those crowd work clips are like little mini fucking shows in their own right I mean like you had posted the cookies and milk for me like this is the first 10 minute video I've ever watched I watched the whole fucking thing and like and that might even be lucky

that it's like that person happened to be in the crowd and I mean the yeah that's the luck of the draw fucking drug dealer's jacket on and the or the mom who calls the daughter and like but you that happened because you were doing the crowd work and drew that out of them like i mean you could if you're gonna just say that you could boil everything down to luck yes i suppose so you know it's like i just got lucky that that happened it's like but you were the one you saw that person you talked to them in a way that they gave you the info and all that shit and like it's but it's harder than both there is yeah there's definitely luck involved but there's there's more skill and talent and i suppose so yeah i mean there is a very i think

there's like crowd work and then there's like work in crowd, if you will. I think a lot of times some of the crowd work we see is clearly a written joke that you say. You wedge it in. So what do you do? They give you the setup. They alley-oop you into your thing. Whatever you say, I can make my joke come out. Versus there is no way, unless you were doing crazy plants or something. There's no way you put this jacket on. You know's in the pocket and you know this what their job's

gonna be and you know the mom came without the daughter it's like that to me is that's crowd work that's very funny when people are like he's got plants in the audience i'm like look how many videos i have you think i know that many people that's fucking insane who live in different states around the country that's fucking well that again is the highest compliment where it's like – Of course. Those videos are so like holy shit that rather than people just go, damn, that was funny. That dude did that. They're like, no, it's got to be fake.

It's got to be this. It's got to be that. Also, why does it matter? Did you laugh at it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then that's all that fucking matters, right? We were just talking with Alex Cooper yesterday. She came in here.

Oh, yeah. right we were just talking with alex cooper yesterday she came in here oh yeah and one of her uh early on one of the things that we knew like behind the scenes was that her podcast was scripted whereas we were kind of just riffing and at the time we were like at least i was i was like very i was too i was being a hater and i was like insecure about it i was like that's that's fucking bullshit like you have to you have to do it off the cuff it's gotta be natural it's like fucking why who cares who made the rules of podcasting and obviously hers was the right way to do it you fucking moron so it's like you know i mean i think if you were to i wouldn't condone planting people in the audience just to be like no don't do that but yeah it's like it whatever however it unfolds if it's funny and working yeah and some people think it's easier than actually writing jokes which which is absolutely insane.

Joke writing is hard. But crowd work, it's spontaneous. That's what I love about it is because it's unpredictable. I also have no idea what's about to happen. That's why when I read comments, they're like, he laughs so hard at his own jokes. I'm like, yeah, dude, I just said something for the first time that's funny. If it wasn't funny to me, why the fuck would i say it as a matter of fact if you were to if you really want to get technical about it the like the fakest thing you guys do is some of the written work because like i've done this a thousand times in

a row man that's like least fun thing for me doing a jug going all right here we go i know the plan i've been on an airplane before it's not as funny like that's that's not as fun for me it's still rewarding obviously that you work so hard on something and it gets a response but yeah the crowd work is fun and if it's so easy do it like you gain millions of followers and sell out a tour for real the there's enough there's enough audience members for everybody reach brother the uh the laughing is what like i'm an over laugher i i and that's like i know we did something good when I would never in a million years go back and listen to it myself. Because I hate how much I laugh. But I'm like, well, I'm actually having fun.

So I don't fucking know. Yeah, waiting was not a crime, dude. That means it's good. You know what's fucking creepy? To deliver a joke and go, and then I fell out the bathtub. And then just to sit back and wait for them to laugh. That's fucking weird. I'm telling you a joke because it's –

the reason I'm telling it to you is because it was funny to me first. That's insane to me, dude. But people will find any form of critique they can find, I suppose. Well, before we get off crowd work too much, I had forgotten about my favorite one, which is with my boy, Shamar Moore. Oh, my God. That was not crowd work god that was my crowd work that was the crowd work

you know that was I actually haven't watched much of that one because I can't like I get uncomfortable when I see someone who can't do he can't do second hand

like embarrassment or awkwardness he's so fucked up I'm like ah but I love Morgan and Criminal Minds but so he's have you had any

follow up with him since yeah he texts me all the time no way dude really he was like a die hard fan, or his wife was, and then he became one.

They both were, yeah. No shit. They have a professional cornhole arena in their backyard. They play for the ESPN professional cornhole league. Shemar Vordy? Yes. Get the fuck out of here.

He has invited me over probably eight times. I'm obviously not there to go, but I can't fucking wait, dude. That's awesome. I think he's coming to my shows in LA in a couple weeks couple weeks actually so that'll be my first time seeing him since then that really that's the whole interaction i know i was nothing about him really but i love it i didn't know who but at the i'm sure you didn't know right he comes up to the stage i'm plugging merch like i'm looking at my hoodie and i just noticed somebody was right there and i was like

oh fuck and that's always him and you knew all right you knew like who he was and what his roles were and everything because that's a guy that i would probably recognize but i'd be like wait who's that guy who he's in that thing you know and then it's like i'm i'm like embarrassed because i don't know you know yeah yeah i'm familiar with his work i'm not like an avid watch every episode level of fam but of course but i think you said something like criminal minds or whatever right yeah well what happened like i don't even know if i would have known that and then i would have been like fuck well he hit me up he hit me up for tickets so he was like he was like do you have anything i'm sorry he didn't hit me up for tickets he asked if i had any shows local and i

was like yeah i have some outside he said i see you have shows in phoenix in like a month and he's like i'll fly out to phoenix for shows and i was like i've got shows in ontario don't don't do don't do that i'll hook you up with tickets how many do you need and he was like 10 I'll fly out to Phoenix for shows. And I was like, I've got shows in Ontario. Don't do that. I'll hook you up with tickets. How many do you need? And he was like, 10. And I was like, all right. I can probably squeeze that. And he showed up to the show and was very charismatic.

He was already that level of energy to where I was like, oh, OK. I can see the type of person you are. You're a cool dude. And you used to be in The Man on set. I totally get your energy. Rightfully so. He's a good-looking dude, very powerful figure. Right.

So he goes into the show, and he's heckling my openers. And I'm like, fuck. Oh, dude. I can already tell. It's like something's going to happen. But I'm like 45 minutes into the show, and he hasn't said anything. So I'm like, maybe he's actually just going to let me do my thing. And I had talked to one little couple.

You can see in the video, I'm talking like a pregnant couple or whatever. Yeah. actually just gonna let me do my thing and i talked to one little couple you can see in the video i'm talking like a pregnant couple or whatever yeah and then i mentioned something about black people i think was just the trigger words i guess yeah and that's when he yelled out when he yelled out and then i was like oh here we go okay and then look luckily it went so well that i think he felt satisfied for the moment that he just sat back and relaxed until the end of the show yeah it was it was interesting activated the splinter cell the level of uncomfortability when i think he was either i think he was giving you the pass to say the n-word or trying to bait you into saying it and you were kind of just like yeah man what am i supposed to say

it's one of those moments you have to live honest in that moment. You know what I mean? You have to come up with a joke that is true to what you're feeling right there. You can't divert because then it's more awkward. You know what I mean? Do you think that's like some wow and out coming back in you? Like, is the word improv, like, come to you naturally? Or is that something you, like, hone in?

It's been a natural thing. I mean, wow and out help, but wow and out's not. not right you said for this it's not it's not improvised it's probably 70 scripted 30 right right you get a little bit of time beforehand and know what games you're gonna play you still have to write your own jokes so i mean you don't have a lot of time to think maybe an hour right and things can change in the moment in the episode things can change at any time so you do have to be ready right but no i wouldn't say so i mean i'd say we just come from that's just natural just coming with the friends like on the playground sort of thing like like you were always the guy uh i guess i guess the question when did you become like a comedian like did you know you had had something i mean i was just

you know i mean i was always making my friends and family laugh typical kids stuff but a lot of kids do that. I think it probably became a defense mechanism in high school. I'm not looking for any level of pity. I know Dave wouldn't give me any, but I was bullied a lot in high school. Not like physically shoved in lockers or anything, but like jokes at my expense quite often. And in those moments, you're faced with two options. You either get embarrassed and go fucking cry, and itishes you and you're even more embarrassed people see you being embarrassed or you just go along with what they're saying you'll be like yeah i am i am an ugly skinny little bitch you know

what i mean you're joking about but you're like fuck this hurts you learn to self-deprecate through humor so i think that was probably the first spark as like me becoming funny, I suppose. Was Adam just like instinct, just had to. Yeah. Yeah. The Shamar thing you handled about as perfectly as you can with a superstar drunk on stage. It was wild. I also feel like he was trying to fuck you with his wife.

He had a lot of innuendos and a lot, right? Am I not? There's uglier couples to be cuckolded. If I gotta fuck anybody, he's not a bad couple to be paired up with, I guess. Flattery, I suppose.

He was really cool. The crowd work thing has been a ride, dude. The belt thing was crazy. The belt wasn't even an intentional thing. It was just a thing that happened in a clip. it wasn't about that right he just took his belt off with one hand i had a bit in my last special match with stephen wright files for it it's not even a hard thing to do i was gonna say i was like i can do this it's not hard by any means you could you could search like matt rife one-handed belt it was the number one search bar on every tiktok

i did for like four months. I could be doing a TikTok about someone's dead grandma and that would still be the search bar. It would make a TikTok and be like, you know, soaking wet over it. I mean, can I try it? Yeah, let's do it. You got a belt on right now?

Absolutely. Untuck that wife beater, dude. Let's do it. I'm like nervous now. Are you right-handed or left-handed? I am kind of ambidextrous. wife beater dude let's do it i'm like nervous now uh yeah i'm gonna take this thing are you right-handed or left-handed i am kind of ambidextrous like but you left lefty if you hold a microphone you do it with the other hand do it with the other hand i hold the mic with yeah don't don't think don't think about it don't think about it just do it look at me look at me look at me there we we go. No! Good boy. Good boy. He got it. It actually sped up.

He just took it off. Oh, it just took it off? Yeah. It's not hard. It wasn't like a magic trick. He did it. Do it again, but just do it. Just pull it.

This belt, to be fair, is very ribbed. Yeah, that one's made for beating your wives. Yeah, that one's... Jesus Christ. Yeah, and then look into Matt's eyes as you do it, for beating your wives. Jesus Christ. And then, you know, look into Matt's eyes as you do it and lick your lips. The pool went faster once you looked over.

I was flattered, actually. There we go. Get them back in the loops. Don't cheat it. And then she said, popcorn. Shamar Moore, what are you doing here? What are you doing? You got to chill out.

30 million views. And honestly, yeah, like $25 million later, you're Matt Rice. Absolutely. All the comments are going to be like, I'm going to pay you to put your bell back on. Why are you in so much white in December? Not even a hard thing to do. I guess I could see, though. I mean, I am at a point in my life where I'm just like, I always joke that I'm the hater of the year.

Like, all my takes online are always like, fuck that and fuck you. Which is why I'm flattered. But I usually would not really apply that to people. It would be like the headline, the story. Oh, yeah. If it was just like, this guy is successful, I wouldn't be like, fuck that. But was there a time? I don't even know if I – my point being, my long-winded point being, if I was like 20 years old and struggling and couldn't get girls or whatever,

and then every fucking thing on TikTok are these girls just being like picking up the belt and slobbering over him? Would I just be like, man, fuck that guy. I don't think I personally would. I don't think I ever did that. But I guess I can see a world where, yeah, you think you would have? Definitely, dude. There's been so many people,

like young actors, young comedians, that when you're young, you're insecure and you're jealous. When you have no fucking money and you're busting your ass to achieve your dream and you see people getting the exact opportunities you want of course you go fuck that dude it's human nature it sucks i don't think i ever did that maybe i'm a bitch i'm the asshole actually sorry i think you are also we've we are extremely like gay yeah I mean honestly you know

yeah no but for real there's straight guys are probably like I'm super straight man are probably way more likely to be like

man fuck man right where I'm like he's a pretty dude you can look and I can see why people fuck him I get it

you know I don't know he's got soft lips I want to kiss him but there's not a lot of you know there's not a lot of people out there. Well, it's because you're all confident in your sexuality. You're not insecure little boys. You're not threatened.

You know what I mean? We're just homies hanging out. Yeah, I do think that comes from sucking dick in a Hurricane O'Reilly. Some people have all the luck, dude. You suck one dick in a bar and boss. The rumor's going to change. It's pretty. I'm surprised.

People will definitely say, definitely say like, Oh, I bet he's gay, but no gay rumors yet. Actually. Yeah. I'm kind of offended.

Well, I think you, I think you, you, you, you've got some history with, with big names. And I think people would put that to bed pretty quick.

Maybe. I suppose. It could be it could have been a beer. If you don't know, give me time. Let me get canceled. I'm gay as fuck, dude. I always said if we came out as gay, then it's like all along we've been dating these

last 12 years and it was all, we'd to the fucking top. Oh, absolutely. To the top. Oh, man. Oh, dude, cancel me. I'm gay as fuck, dude. My pronouns are getting changed to uh-oh. Sign me up, baby.

Dude, my tour bus couldn't be gayer, dude. I've got like 15 new minutes in my new show I'm building right now about how just gay My friends and I are It's so much fun If you're not gay, you're Straight If you're not gay, you're gay

I don't know what it is Who wants to be straight right now? On paper? Who wants to be straight on paper? Being straight is so lame. Oh, it's so done, dude. It's so done. It's done. It's over.

It's not fun. You had the first, you know. What kind of world are we living in? You can't give people some butterfly kisses. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Wouldn't it be weird? Not the world I want to live in, man.

Let me, one last thing. I'm trying to think if there's anything else I wanted to really get to with you. Two minutes left. I feel like we kind of covered it all i had a good time yeah i'm happy you did man i came from my i i do want to say that i mean i i watched the whole thing unfold i mean that's this is my forte at this point is watching the internet and comedy and all that and watching it unfold and then seeing some of the hate and then seeing like... Oh, this is what I wanted to say. The Netflix special is out, but seven months ago,

you had your special on YouTube. It did 17 million views. Do you have three specials this year? Two specials this year. One was just a crowd work special. But still, you had three... That's a fucking lot of work, man. Thanks, man.

I'm busting my ass, dude. I don't want this to be a flash in the pan like yeah my my my favorite momentum is people being like oh enjoy this year it's all you're ever gonna well that's what i was gonna say all right i'll see you in 10 bitch yeah watching that i was like build longevity this guy i get the first interaction of like girls like him fuck that but it's like if you give it a shot at all you realize like got the goods work hard seem like you're cool like it's not like you give it a shot at all, you realize, like, got the goods, work hard, seem like you're cool. Like, it's not like, you know, people meet you and you hear stories of him being an asshole or whatever. It's like it's an intriguing story to watch.

And it's obviously fucking working. So whether or not the people, you know, the haters or whoever realize it and turn, it doesn't fucking matter. No, at this point right now, the fan base i've been lucky enough to have my my entire career for the rest of my life is dedicated to just keeping those people happy you know i mean like they they got me this far everyone who doesn't like me cool stay not liking me i don't care i'm just making things for the people who do like me because i enjoy making it and i i owe the people who gave me this everything sam howell the redskins quarterback commander's quarterback had a quote like that recently where he was like,

I'm not trying to prove people wrong. I'm trying to prove the people who believed in me right. That's great. I read some quotes similar to that the other day, actually. I can't believe this didn't cross my mind. It was something like, how often do you put in energy towards revenge, towards people, or getting even

with people who did you wrong? How much energy and time do you spend getting right with people who did you right yeah yeah yeah last question i saw you were sitting courtside of the garden did you put up a caption that said see you soon yeah are you doing the garden my goal this will be uh first announcement of this i have no idea if this will happen or not whatsoever. But this tour is going to go through next year. And at the end of this tour, I would love for my next special to be Madison Square Garden. I know you love that, but have you had any talks about this?

No, but I mean, it's probably a phone call away. The crazy thing is, is we're doing Radio City Music Hall. We have six shows there. Yeah. Which, when I looked at the ticket numbers, I could have done Madison Square Garden. Yeah. I'm actually over what I would have done for Madison Square Garden. But obviously, when it went on sale, I didn't think I was going to sell one show.

Hell no. And now we're doing six. Six in Radio City. Yeah. Radio City's huge. I've never even been. I'm so excited. I had never been to Madison Square Garden until Chappelle let me open for his birthday.

Yeah. So that was my first time ever being there. And it was, it's giant. Get ready, bud. You got a year to get ready. I hope so, man. I hope I get to do my next special there or at least get to perform. I know Schultz just announced his second show is on sale there.

So go get tickets to that. Yeah, it's awesome, man. It's an awesome time for comedy, I think. Congrats, brother. Thanks, man. Thanks for having me. See you there, bro. Thank you very much.

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