KFC Radio - Michael Grier is to Thank for Kat Timpf's Gathering of the Juggalo's Video - Inside Barstool

Episode Date: July 31, 2023

Timecodes: 0:00 Start 01:10 Out of Order Vibes Guy 10:03 Dave Portnoy's disappointed tweet to Grier 17:29 Grier's best two bits 25:11 Does Grier ever fudge the numbers as the data guy? 42:07 Grier worked for Kat Timpf 44:57 Quiggs is probably the second funniest person at Barstool 52:45 Cryptocurrency +++++++++++++++ BetterHelp: This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Visit https://betterhelp.com/KFC to get 10% off your first month.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/kfcr

Hey, KFC Radio listeners, you can find every episode of KFC Radio on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. There was something that straight up, like, me and Tommy bought Puss Coin, and it went to zero within 30 minutes. We got robbed within the hour. All right, it's another edition of KFC Radio Monday episode where we try to chop it up with somebody from Barstool. Oh, that's going to be a nightmare. This place is messy, but it's not usually dirty. Like, I think, at least I don't know with you.

You never know if there's food around and stuff. We usually don't have flies. That sucks. Anyway, very special guest. Because usually it's like someone on camera or talent forward facing. But Greer is like the Wizard of Oz. Greer is the man behind the curtain. I would argue that Greer is the funniest person in Barcelona. I would argue that Greer is the funniest person and I think the most powerful.

I mean, there were times where I, for years when we couldn't get any information and I was like, I know Greer has all the fucking, got all the numbers. Like, if we were like a government, like he would have the nuclear codes. Well, do you ever want to learn? Nuclear codes at Barstool, essentially. Yeah, pretty much.

Like, you know who, what numbers they put up, what numbers they earn. I like how you're like that. You're like, yes. Sometimes people are like, no, no. Yes. I've gotten in trouble for giving away the nuclear codes when I wasn't supposed to.

Well, so that's where I think the intrigue really comes in with you because that almost should be a role. The way Barstool has run it in the past has been very like nobody gets to know their worth and nobody knows what job they're doing or how well they're doing it. If you want to run your business that way, it's almost like I think like the guys in Vegas who make the lines. Like they have to be like ghosts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you go out. You have a few beers. You start to become friends with someone.

It's like, well, here you go. Oh, yeah. I can be compromised. I can be compromised. What do you want to know? Your downloads, your views, other people's salaries? What do you want? Here you go.

That stuff I actually don't know. Really? That stuff I don't know. Okay, but you do know all the information. Yeah. But we've started kind of giving that away. Yeah, yeah. The producers, everyone knows. Which is crazy that it's like we've started kind of giving that away yeah like the producers everyone knows so now which is crazy that it's like yeah now we've started telling you things

like like when you know how fucking mortifying it was is uh when like i would talk to comics and i'm you know trying to you know you always make fun of me for like keeping like networking with all these people and i'll talk i don't make fun of you for the record well i acknowledge it but it it's it's i think it's very impressive and i wish i did it it's not fun though so you're good but you know then they would they would ask me like so or like here you know i did like this many downloads this month like but that's like nothing compared to you guys right and i'm like i don't know i couldn't tell you and they'd be like what do you mean like you've had that show for like 10 years I'm like, I don't know. Couldn't tell you. And they'd be like, what do you mean? Like, you've had that show for like 10 years. I'm like, yeah, I don't know.

I don't know how many downloads Casey Radios has. And you know what is funny? And that's something I complained about a lot. Now it is all available, and I don't go look at it. One, because of laziness, and two, I don't want to do it that way. I don't want to be like, well, this

did more views, so we're going to stop talking about that well, this did more views. So we're going to like, stop talking about that thing and talk about this thing. Like just fuck it. We're going to argue about Barbie another day. Yeah. By the way, do you want to know something that's crazy? That's crazy.

Kevin. I mean, there's been a lot of fucking crazy things. So when we were doing an out of order sketch last night and I did something I haven't done in six months and maybe I should do more often now, but I went paths just like, how bad is it? And he was like, what do you mean? I was like, the response online, like, how bad is it?

Do you know what the answer is? Is it not bad? Nobody cares. I was like, bro, okay, now going forward, if I'm on day five of talking about a topic I don't want to talk about and no one cares one way or another, let me know. Okay, here's the thing. Maybe you can do this for us. I want you to maybe, if you could run the numbers of the last two episodes of KC Radio, if they're bad downloads, I hope it's just like, hey, guess what? Nobody fucking cares

Nobody cares about They're not bad numbers Damn it But that was because Of the alien talk If I'm talking about A topic I want to talk about And nobody cares

That's basically the show That's That's what the show That's our career You guys did kind of Promote it as like Girls versus boys On Barbie

Well it fucking was Yeah And it's like It's like Caroline cries this episode. So it's like, yeah, well, let's fucking tune in for that. So our last episode was called And What About Communism? And another thing, what's so bad about communism? That was funny, so he wanted to go with that,

and I was like, yes, let's do that. I was going to recommend something before I heard that, and I wanted to call that episode This Is Why We Hate Chicks. This is why, girls. It was – it was – I'm done. Next topic. Next topic. Back to Greer.

So you're like this data dude, but now without a border, you're in it. You're pseudo-producing, pseudo-writing. Vlog guy. Vlog, yeah. you're in it you're pseudo producing pseudo guy vlog yeah what was there was one i think last one time the credit said something really funny you like the it always says i'm vibes yeah yeah because i can't really do anything i'm just kind of around trying to throw throw things out there and i'm a horrific actor so it's just like oh we can't get anyone for this role that requires no speaking lines and no expressiveness with their face you've been in every episode though haven't you i think so yeah probably like a very minor role

so wait what's the real connection there is it like owen paths owen owen just like asked if i wanted to help and i was like like, yeah, I can't. I can't really do that much, but I'll do what I can. You weren't friends before? No, no, I was friends with Owen before. But through Barstool, just regular work stuff? Yeah. I think Owen's got a good eye and ear for that.

I think the vibes is important. Vibes is humongously important. In fact, I'd say there was only one sketch that had bad vibes. And they weren't bad the whole time, but they were bad to start. And I don't think you were there.

It was... Ask for a raise, bro. The father-son homecoming. And it was just like... And it wasn't anyone individually. It was just like we traveled out to Long Island. Something happened. We weren't sure if we were going to end up doing it.

We were like, oh, we came out here for nothing. I think Sass was like getting – something was happening with his apartment. And so like he couldn't get out. Like we got out there and Sass was like, I can't make it. And he was tied up with banks. And then he ended up coming out. His career was there. His career was there. You weren't there, right?

No, I wasn't. There was one though that you weren't there for that never got put out that was so bad my girlfriend was in the other room and after everyone left she's like you guys aren't gonna put that out like that was horrific it was not funny or bad not funny it was like i think i want to say like the second one we tried to film and it was literally just like no script, no real direction on it. Just like, let's try to do something with this.

And they put me in way too large of a role. I had no, I like, I've never done any sort of acting or improv or anything. And like, you're really good at that, like leading shit. And like it,

it was me, Sass and Owen. And then, uh, John Kennedy was one of the lawyers in the dancing lobster one yeah and one was we and we just were like sitting there and nobody would talk we'd be like just it would be dead silence for like 15 seconds just trying to think of the next line and nobody was taking the lead like and we were all just like yo should we just start this

all over and nothing came of it so yeah i never saw the light i i hate doing content when civilians are around dude oh there was one i'm doing like one minute man if anyone's in the house my family's around i like i'll go into like a basement close a door put clothes in front of it i don't want anybody to hear anything and that's for like just a video where I'm talking, let alone trying to act and be funny. I actually think the talking one is harder. You think so? Yeah. And I don't like doing this either.

Really, the only time we've done one here where a quote-unquote civilian was around was the Welcome to Moe's. Because we had to rent a restaurant on some website. And the guy just sat there in the corner the whole time. And that was weird. That one we were lucky, because the content of it wasn't really that edgy. But there have been other ones where it's like,

I guess another one didn't get out that we've just reshot that we'll get out. That time I went outside. You'll understand what I'm talking about. I don't want to say it on a show. It sounds very vague right now, but it's super specific. If you've been to a live show, you know what I'm talking about.

Yeah, yeah. If you're a live show, you're like, oh, yep. But that one was like, I was like, this is so weird. This guy's here. Then we started and I was like, I don't care. If I was doing like a, even like a hey, new episode go check it man i would feel i would feel i uh it took me like a long time back now i kind of just do one minute man like tiktok style but before when i would set up the ring light and everything it's like jackie and pavs and then we're just like

in the room editing i i used to be like can you guys get out yeah and then eventually i was like i can't like they need to work i just got over it but it's weird doing content in front of people and that's when people will do content so for you like you're like i was mortified that my girlfriend could hear every single thing that was going on i was like she's gonna fucking leave me this is this is the worst shit ever like i don't think an episode had been out yet, so she's probably thinking, he better stick with Data. Because whatever he's trying to do here

fucking sucks. Speaking of Data, one of your most famous pictures is Dave's This Is Our Data Guy. Not a joke or something like that. That was for Gally, right? Yeah, taking a little cat nap on my way home from uh straight war look been there a million fucking times were you were you out like unconscious or

were you just like you i don't know what i don't walk me through that i i won't i remember waking up someone's like yo you gotta get home and then i saw the picture and i was like, yo, you got to get home. And then I saw the picture and I was like, what was my plan? This is so good. Yeah. That was not good to wake up when I got home. All my friends were like, yo, fucking, you see this? Dude, Dave did that with me when I first started. Yeah.

I think the headline was, apparently this is our new intern. Dude, it's the sprawl. And you have to wear so big. You're taking up the whole sidewalk. And the time stamp makes it great, too. 3.27 p.m. So good.

This is our data guy. No joke. And it's also like, but it's like, this is our data guy who's good that's but that's when that's fucking back when things were good too yeah when it's like is our like that that makes sense within the company yeah it's like yeah this is our data guy he came from bleach report right like get the fuck out of here our data guy can pass out on the street in

the middle of that and still be good at his job look literally someone said that barstool data just hits different yeah it just was he tweeted that out too when i was uh like on the way home i was on a fucking bus back from nantucket to new york city oh a bus yeah a bus jeez probably the the only person leaving Nantucket on a bus. I was going to say, bro, if you're leaving Fugawi on a bus, don't go to Fugawi. How is that possible? The Bruins were in the Cup or probably not Cup Final. That wouldn't be happening Memorial Day, right?

Or maybe. But you guys were doing a live show in Boston, like a Barstool radio on a Monday. It was definitely the playoffs. Yeah, it was before 2019. Yeah. And Marina was there and I was going to go. And then I was just so like, before Dave even put out the tweet,

just the fact that I saw that picture on social media, that's like Chad tuck it Instagram. I was like, I was like, I was like, which I've been featured on many times. That's the spot. There's some other deep cuts that I haven't said anything about.

Then I was just like, I'm just going home. Fuck this. I'm going home. I'm on the bus. I start getting texts like, oh, no, Greer. I was like, what? Open Twitter. I was like, holy fuck.

Was that a rogue picture that someone emailed a day or sent to a DM? No. A friend of yours. And I think, I think gas gas saw it on that Chad Tuckett thing. Oh, okay. But guys didn't take the picture.

No, no, no. Okay. So it was like a stranger. Random person. So you, you think you were like trying to go somewhere and just like tripped and fell and just like

stayed down or something? No, I was trying to go home and then I was probably and fell and just like stayed down or something? No, I was trying to go home and then I was probably like, I'm dizzy. I'm laying down. And then, and then, yeah,

I don't, I definitely wasn't down for long. Like, but that was my next question. Is that like a minute or like an hour? No, no, no,

no, no. Someone, someone's like, yo, you should go home. And I was like, yeah,

yeah, definitely should. And then woke up hours later, featured on that home. And I was like, yeah, I definitely should. And then woke up hours later featured on that page. I've done that before. That should be like an album cover, bro. I've done that in Newport where like same thing. Like people are like, you should go home. And I went home.

And this was at night, not during the day. And they like got home. They were having an after party. And then like in the middle of the after party, party they were like wait, where's Feidelberg? And then the two girls who weren't drinking were like, we gotta go find him. So they started driving around Newport. It's like, yeah, now you don't.

That's such a girl thing. Like 99% chance he'll be fine, 1% chance he's dead, but like there's also 100% chance we're probably not just gonna find him somewhere. They did find me. I woke up in a hospital with staples in my head. I was asleep in a bush in front of a pizza place.

And I guess I had fallen back and hit my head on cement or something like that. It wasn't a lot of staples. Honestly, if I had just gone home, I probably would have just washed my hair and gotten the blood out and been fine. It wasn't this big gash. Do you ever think, though, about how many times you could have hit a corner of a concrete ledge or something and been dead? I should be dead 10 million times. Yeah, the amount of times.

The fact that I'm not makes me think I might be immortal. I've thought the same thing before. If I'm not dead, what does it take to die? The human body is an amazing machine. You guys are like, you lived to 175. They always said they were immortal. I was really doing

my best, and I'm somehow healthy? Like, what the fuck? I lived in a walk-up apartment, and the first floor was like two floors it was like a really long staircase and i went i i stumbled home with my roommate at the time drunk and he was behind me and he was really shit face i should have been should have been i should have been helping him up and i remember like he was stumbling and ping pong and back and forth and i turned around and be like, come on, dude.

And I just watched him go, like, die hard. Like, ah! And just, like, brr, b-b-b-b-b-b-b. And, like, he just kept going down. And I remember being like, that's a dead body. I was like, my friend is dead now. And he passed right back to me. He was just like, fucking, like a rubber ball.

I was like, okay. Started to back up the hill like fucking Sisyphus. I had an issue with, I started, I've done it twice in New York. I've like slept walked out of my apartment when I've been drunk. Yeah. And the one time was, I think I thought I was going to the bathroom. The bathroom door and the front door were like right beside each other. And I just let myself. Yeah. i just let myself out the front door it's like right across the street from the port authority my old apartment and then like it closes and then my dog starts

going nuts and that kind of kicks me awake i'm like why the fuck am i outside right now and then i'm in my shoe or no just socks socks. Don't have keys on me or anything. And so I knew I had a spare key at the office. So at like four in the morning with no shoes on, I sprinted from Hell's Kitchen to the office. Went and got the keys. It's a long way for people who don't know. I just sprinted back. What?

You sprint? My dog was going nuts. I felt like I had to At that point the dog's barking Also the less time outside barefoot The better I actually think if I had to be outside in New York In barefoot or socks

I think I'd tiptoe It wouldn't be speed It would be surface Yeah especially around there Yeah for real That's you know 20 something blocks Couple avenues No joke Yeah, especially around there. Yeah. The needle. Yeah, for real. If you're not too careful. I mean, that's, you know, 20-something blocks, a couple avenues. That's no joke.

Yeah. That is – that's the White Sox. Dave, you know, I was sleepwalking. You were just blackout drunk. Yeah, yeah. You have two of my favorite running bits on social media. What's the deal with the climate change? How are we doing?

I mean, we only got like five years left. We're toast. It's so funny because I've walked through Union Square. Not a ton, but a fair amount. I live down that area. And every time I walk by, I'm like fucking Greer. But this past week, maybe two weeks ago, I was walking through, and it was full-on protest. And I don't think the guy was even saying five years. He was saying less time, where he's like, it's over tomorrow.

He's like, right in my face, like, we got 30 days left. I'll take that bet, dude. When I get drunk sometimes, I'll take a picture of my girlfriend and say that she's talking shit on the cloud. Just say things that I want to say, but it's just like, it's her saying it. Just like, you should have heard this shit that Savannah just said. Here it is. Then we'll wake up in the morning and she'll be like, why? Stop doing that. She's your fucking like puppet?

Yeah, basically, yeah. The things that I'm not willing to put my name on, I'll put her name on it. That's fucking awesome. My girlfriend just said Barbie was mid. That's a great, like I always say like girlfriends are good for like, they bring sunblock to the beach,

they RSVP to events for you, they'll send a thank you note, and you can use them as your straw man puppets to post your fucking real opinions. Why did you do that again? That's a better drunk bit than passing out in the entire room. That's gross.

Yeah, I got a girlfriend now. I make her say bad things online. What's your other second favorite thing? Where's that? It's Trudell. You're from Canada, right? Yeah. Where in Canada?

Guelph, Ontario. So a little bit outside of Toronto. Okay. Because when I was there, it sounds like you don't like Canada, right? Yeah. I got a drinking in public ticket there last weekend, actually. Literally walking. We were in

Grand Bend, which is sort of a cottage country thing. Literally a two-minute walk. I brought a beer from the cottage we were renting to the other cottage my friends were renting. And I managed to get a drinking in public ticket on that two minute walk yeah i didn't even know drinking public was illegal in canada i think you got tickets for it yeah four of us got tickets it was it was well it was ridiculous

we were literally just like it was like going to your neighbor's house and bringing a beer like on the walk and they were like you can't do that i, I guess technically, but I wouldn't be a dick about it. Why do you need a stickler about the rules here, bro? It's not the essence of the law. Also, like, Grand Bend is disgusting, and there's probably 17-year-olds sucker-punching people at the bar. Go deal with that. I'm just bringing a Bud Light to my mother cottage.

That's what you were texting me when we were texting about something. And I was like, oh, it has to be coming on the show. And he's like, I can't. I'm going home this weekend. I was like, oh, I was going to come on the show. And he's like, I can't. I'm going home this weekend. I'm going to get sucker punched by a high schooler. Yeah, you described it funny. Remember I said the other day it sounded like he was deported?

You said something like, rather than being like Greer's in Canada for the weekend or something like that, the way you worded it was like you've been sent back to the country. I forget what I said, but I did. It feels funny. It feels like you're at any point. Back to what I said, but I did. It feels funny. It feels like you're at any... Back to the motherland, I usually say. Are you a citizen? Of America? Yeah.

No, no, I have a visa. And then hopefully green card soon. Congratulations. Thank you. So you start working and you get... So I am on a TN visa, it's called, which is I don't have to be in like a lottery or anything. I have a skill set that fits profile. And the technical reason I have the visa is that they can't find anyone in America that has the same skill set that I provide Barstool.

So, yeah, you get. There's nobody in America that can be me. i think it's right yeah i i i would stand by it the vibes and the smarts like you know there's i'll tell you this much there's only one i don't know if there's only one person in the country that can do the data but there's only one in terms of their definition of there's thousands and thousands of me hopefully nobody from fucking immigration is watching this i need this one set them back it expires in march so really so there is a world where you could get deported there is a world where i could get deported yeah yeah especially i the ticket i got last weekend i just threw out right away. So I don't know how that works.

But if I go to the border and they're like – You treat that like when you get a parking ticket at your buddy's college you're visiting? Yeah, exactly. Or any ticket I get ever. So yeah. If they need to invent, you can just pay your ticket right then and there, like scan it and pay it. Yeah. Because anytime I go on the website, it's like you need to wait like 18 hours or 12, whatever, 24 hours for it to upload. And by then I'm like, forget pay it. Anytime I go on the website, it's like you need to wait 18 hours, 12, whatever,

24 hours for it to upload. By then, I'm like, forget about it. Now you owe $2,000 because it's five years old. I did tweet at Trudeau to get a pardon yesterday. I told him I wouldn't post him in blackface for one fiscal quarter

if he pardoned me. I haven't heard back. He really, he can't stop, won't stop. The most blackface ever. The goat, the blackface goat. He loves costumes. That was like his excuse in a press conference. I love costumes.

It's so good. It's so good. It's so good. He was like Aladdin. The big one was Aladdin or something, right? Yeah. He had the brown face on? Yeah, he did. And then there's other pictures of him just not in blackface, but also dressed like Aladdin

doing some shit in India or something. So he does love costumes. So what he has to do from now, like every Halloween, he's got to blow it out. Like, told you so. I love costumes so what he has to do from now like every halloween he's got to blow it out like told you so much that would be yo if trudeau just flat out does a blackface costume again like blatantly i he's the man yeah man mikey like always says i have the blackface pass because i'm canadian like we vote we voted him in We clearly made it a thing in Canada. That's our culture. I'm able to do blackface. I think I'm going to hold out on that. Don't test that theory. No, I'm not going to. This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. Life is already difficult as it is,

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like you'll you'll know right away like which shows are good and which are not what's a hit what's not right pretty much yeah so do you like does that affect were you a fan of barstool first yes big fan big so you're a big fan and then you like get a job here and now you kind of have like like i said like keys to the castle where you're like all right these guys are killing it she's you know next next thing up these guys you know people think they're big but they're not like that sort of shit yeah and does that like do you just try to i don't know lock that away or are you just like talking about yeah no it's it's i mean the i just got to report what's actually fucking happening so there's not much like room for did you become uh did you like stop being a

fan no yeah you still like listen or consume whatever yeah i've gotten worse at listening to podcasts while working so i'm definitely consuming less but in in general yeah definitely still a fan that's surprising because usually speaking for myself it stops being interesting yeah like sometimes i i love it and i'm very flattered and like honored truly when people like people who i know and like at the company are like telling me something about the episode that we just did yeah i'm like it just came out today and you already listened to it? Thanks, man. I've never watched any of yours. But yeah, so you just report numbers, you just run numbers. Pretty much, yeah.

But is it part of your job to alert people of things? You know, like, this is a monster, this is good, this is bad. Yeah, pretty much. Any editorializing? Yeah, definitely there's some editorializing, but I'm not lying. But you can be bought. I can definitely be bought. I have never been bribed, but putting that out now, I will take bribes.

Wait, here's the thing. Sorry. We need to bribe Greer. Okay. Okay, wait. Here's the thing. Sorry. We need to bribe Greer. Okay. Because I would say that our – like out of all the shows here, our reputation, the guests that we have, the shit that we do doesn't match the numbers. So if we just – it's like, yeah, they do a bazillion downloads. Look at them. They're going to fucking Amsterdam with Burt.

They're backstage with Shane. They're doing this. They're doing that. Yeah, they're just at a fucking zero on. So we bribe Greer to bump our numbers up. What I'm basically saying is we're underperforming. And there's room for people to be like, oh, wow, no, they do a million downloads an episode. Look, you couldn't do that to, like, just any old person, because it'd be like, oh, wow, no, they do a million downloads an episode.

Look. You couldn't do that to just any old person because it'd be like, well, no, we can see. They don't have, I don't know, a lot of followers. They don't sell tickets. We do all that shit. We just need to add a zero to our numbers. I have thought of that before.

Like, how sellers, they don't fucking know what the downloads are. So, like, what's stopping us from just being, like, 10x every single thing we do? I legit think that's... We don't, but, like, I've thought about that because you can see YouTube and shit like that. Right. The download numbers aren't public. So, I think it's just, like, a trust system.

Which I think is crazy. I'm pretty much 100% positive Podcast One used to do that back in the day. Oh. Oh, those – I remember being like – we did – we were told we were doing like 600,000 downloads an episode. Yeah. I was like, I'm pretty sure if I did that, like, we wouldn't be able to walk down the street. Yeah, when – we use like PodTrack now, which is like the industry standard. And so I –

So it's a little public, right? You can log in and see other people's PodTrack or no? There's – they have rankings. So like you can see other people's podcast or no? They have rankings. So you can see the top 20. But it's not numbers? There's thousands. They say how many downloads in a month, I think, for the whole network and then the top 20 podcasts. So they have a sense there.

But in terms of their whole – there's thousands and thousands more. And yeah, before I got here, you guys used, like, Podcast One or whatever. And I saw those numbers, and they were insane. Those people were just criminals. They weren't in the area code of what they are. Pretty sure they were. Yeah. Podcast One, I think 600,000 is, I think it was, like, 6 million.

Podcast One was crazy. Yeah, I One, I think 600,000 is, I think it was like 6 million. Podcast One was crazy. Yeah, I remember seeing them, and I'm just like, how the fuck is this? I mean, that must have sucked for the sales team at the time when we switched over to the legitimate measurement system. They were like, oh, fuck, we've got to slash everything down by like 90%. It sucked for them. It sucked for, I remember thinking like, I knew something was up, you know? But I was like, I don't know, maybe it's not 600,000, but maybe it's, like, 200,000 or whatever. And it's like, no, it was, like, 15,000.

So when we got, like, our real numbers, I was like, well, that's an ego hit. I, yeah, he's dead. Well, I don't want to speak ill of the dead either. That's not a reason to start talking shit about him. The podcast one guy? The podcast one guy was a wild dude he's dead? yeah he died

how? better be a wild way probably Hillary he was 79 so that's a wild one let's not rule anything out vaccine Hillary could be either one So that's a one to just be dead. Let's not rule anything out. Vaccine, Hillary. Could be either one.

Myocarditis? I fucking knew it. But you're right. I guess if you were to say this podcast does a million downloads an episode, and then when they did a promo code or they did an activation they tried to sell some tickets or some merch and nothing sells it would be a pretty obvious like okay wait something's off here but there's that there's certainly a variance there where you can get away with it where it's like yeah 100 like the and again i

think so many of these i mean it's what net Yeah. Oh, it did 2 billion streams over the weekend. Did it? I don't fucking know. But a lot of people have Netflix, so okay. Yeah, isn't that what people are theorizing about the strike? Yeah. Like, they've been bullshitting all the numbers, and once that has to come out... It's so funny that people are theorizing it, and everyone's spinning it as it's their idea.

Yeah, it's like... And it was like oh people are fudging numbers in entertainment it's almost it was like the first thing the writers said yeah like their opening statement was you're telling us it doesn't make money you're telling the stock market it makes billions you're lying to one of us right pick one right and everyone's like i think maybe they might be lying everyone's like oh intelligent think maybe they might be lying. Everyone's like, oh, intelligent. What a philosopher. Yeah. Andrew Schultz was that for me. I'm like, wow, he nailed this.

Schultz is that for a lot of people. Schultz is that for a lot of people. That's why I'm impressed with the NBA is like actually paying players. Like what seems to be fair. Like $60 million for Jalen Brown is like probably what seems to be fair like 60 million dollars for uh for jalen brown is like probably what he should be getting but it is it's just ridiculous to me that a the nba owners let let let it get to the point that it's fair like every other owner like they just fucking lock down and don't let ever let it happen but even but it's not right like even if you like that's

still you're still they're still getting a deal. That's crazy. I mean, owners aren't getting fucked. Right? So whatever they're willing to pay is they're getting a deal. Where does it end? So if he's worth 60,

then the top dogs are legit worth like 100, 120. Well, remember when we interviewed Mark Cuban and he said that the way the league was set up, and I don't believe it's been a lockout since then, so I think it still stands, is that the top, I want to say it was 25, he said, maybe he's at 50, but he said a number.

The top 50 will be forever underpaid. Like, it will never. Well, if you have a cap, yeah. Yeah, he was like, because we asked him what he'd pay Luka Doncic, and he was like, I would give Luka Doncic $200 million a year. Right. He's like, I just can't. I can't. But he's like, he's worth $200 million million dollars a year crazy that's why baseball's nuts that's why

otani is going to get like a billion but that's where i mean you know podcasting and all this internet shit is still kind of in the the wild west like it's it's getting pod track and there is data and all this shit but it's still like basically in its infancy yeah so like like when you came on were were you just like, okay, I'm here, here's the program I use, and I'll start to collect the data? Or were you creating the data system at Barstool? Because I feel like we didn't have one for a long time.

I always say that I should have been the third or fourth data guy hired when I was the first, so I was supposed to create the system. I love a fucking humble king. I love a self-aware king. I was probably supposed to create the system, but I can't. So I was doing everything in Google Sheets for a good year or two. So what does that mean? You have to get the information from downloads for my show.

Yeah. This is what I don't understand because like i don't think anybody understands it across all of media but i think nielsen boxes and shit like people kind of grasp that like apple spotify like who gives you the first pieces of information this many downloads pod track so i was just downloading have a deal with like the yeah the networks yeah and so i would just download the pod track shit and like throw it into an excel sheet whereas now we have much smarter people than me doing like like connecting to apis and shit and making an actual database but but so before it's like if i accidentally deleted a file just it's going to cause me weeks of work.

You're a mail time hero. And that was like how things were done through the first pen deal. So I always say I facilitated a $400 million deal out of Google Sheets. That is a great fucking tale. That's like a cube monkey like heroic tale were you just like literally just like entering like this many downloads this many views yeah

like i'm not even that skilled in excel and but uh yeah i was about to say that you can you know create pivot tables and lookups and all these yeah that stuff that stuff yeah i just know some people are nasty like yeah like that like that you were doing that kind of shit like yeah yeah stuff for the vlookups and the pivot tables that's that stuff yeah the nasty stuff like you can like code and excel and stuff i feel like i'm talking to oppenheimer right now and he's going i'm not really good at math it's like i mean you're good at math i don't know anything you're talking about I have no idea If you were doing it like the way

Like the lesser way It's still a lot of manual shit Yeah Things are a lot easier Thanks to the rest of the data team I always say like You're the fucking king of this shit I always say they do like

For having to drive down the field 99 yards. I'm the one who punches it in at the end. I get the Erica's of the world, the numbers they need and stuff, but all the hard work is done by the rest of the team members. So let's hope that no one from immigration is listening and no one from Barstool management is listening. That's the most Canadian way to describe your job. Everyone else really works hard. I work hard. I work hard. You work hard.

Because I have to. Just got lucky with the boys. I'm just on the doorstep. I just kind of hit it. But so, PodTrack, we just take on faith? Yeah. And there's just, I don't fucking believe anybody there's just no way that after like like uh once you know tv was around hollywood's around all these other forms

of media around once those guys were all in place, executives and whoever, people with money, and they were like, okay, there's this new whole industry, podcasts and videos and shit. We're going to manipulate the fuck out of this. You know what I mean? There's just no way they were just like, let's just do this honestly. It's like, no way. We're going to make these numbers say what we want them to say. We're going to take bribes. We're going to whatever.

You want more downloads, less downloads. You want this. you want that. Because, like, who can even, it's all just, like, in the ether. You know what I mean? Well, Mikey Fowler is the one who, like, tries to expose companies. Does he? So, yeah. If you fuck around, Mikey Fowler might have some expose.

I can't remember what it was. I don't want to, I shouldn't fucking name a company. But I want to say it was, like don't i shouldn't fucking name a company but i i want to say it was like or something that was like some numbers were getting fudged i think they were like i want to say they were like putting on those mobile games on your phone like the advertisements were like auto downloading podcasts or something like i could be i could be misremembering and i but yeah there was something like that i remember him that's what i mean like it's either going to be those people or or i mean we did it when kc radio first started remember when the the auto

play on on barcelona sports we put a uh like a widget, I guess, that's what it was called. It was just like, where there was usually a banner ad was now a square player and it autoplayed and, and it got like a million, it was like just views of the website

counted as downloads. So I remember talking with Dave and being like, we worked out something like, just so I could get like a thousand dollars a fucking month for the podcast. and being like, we worked out something just so I could get $1,000 a fucking month for the podcast. For this many views, downloads,

you get a little bit of change, but all of a sudden it went to a million views. I remember Dave writing an email being like, we can't have this or you'll make more money than me. This is not real, you know. But it was like all that sort of shit.

Those were blatantly like fake and stupid. But, you know, if you do it smartly. Also, that wasn't our idea. I don't know who did that. It just happened. It was he who shall not be named. A man who was fired for or went our separate ways for talking about the weight of pop stars.

Ah, that makes sense. Okay. I thought it was going to be a different He Who Shall Not Be Named. Yeah, it was different. The He Who Shall Not Be Named who hired me. Oh, that's a hell of a... There's like four or five He Who Shall Not Be Named.

I think that one's legally. The other one's like, I just don't want Dave to get mad at me. I think That's a Hugh who shall not be named. I think that one's legally. The other one's like, I just don't want Dave to get mad at me. I think that one's where legally cannot be named. We cannot say it. Yeah. Your Hugh who shall not be named is actually like a – I love that Hugh who shall not be named. Like that was an era, and I think we need more of that, and I think we have none of that. I think we need a lot of that Hugh who shall not be named with a little bit less of that.

Yeah. Take some of the good of that without some of the craziness. I actually think Greer's a good level of that. Yeah. Good vibes. Yeah, it's vibes. It really is. That was kind of the one thing with He Who Should Not Be Named is the vibe was scary.

It was like, whoa, I don't know what's going on here. Yeah, he ended up leaving a week after I started, and he was the one. He hired you? Yeah, and he was like my boss. And then for like three weeks, I was like, fuck. Nobody was telling me what to do, so I was just doing random shit. I didn't even know what was important at the company. I was just downloading numbers and just trying to do anything with them

and being like, anyone give a fuck? That was so much. I would rather that. coding numbers and just trying to do anything with them and being like anyone give a fuck that's legitimately better than the person who just like is told what to do and just like print it out here you go print it out here you go at least you were like i don't trying looking at things yeah figure it out well i actually did like i had just quit my job and moved to America. So I had to stay. So I had to figure out how to become valuable or else it was back to Canada. How did they find you? I didn't know you were in New York or anything. Kat Timph put out a tweet saying she... What do you mean, how did they find you?

Who found you? I don't know. The person who shot me in. Oh, I thought you were talking about getting dep like deported no no no i knew that was gonna eventually get into a it was great territory we know what we're talking about anymore so it was kat timp uh put when she started with us she put out a tweet that said like i need an intern to send me um a list of things in in New York that I can make a video at each week. And I just replied and Gaz ended up emailing me back.

But it wasn't a data thing. It was like a production thing in a way. Yeah. And so I was just – I would just like Google things that she could go to. And my favorite thing that I've done at Barstool is I put the Gathering of the Juggalos. I was about to say, did you always use? I put that on the email literally every single week, and it was like, you've got to go to that.

Her crowning achievement, and I believe, kind of goes re-viral every now and then. There's always a clip from that that's out there in the ether. That's a great claim to fame. I think I picked it up from the comments section. Someone said something about the Gathering of the Juggalos. Someone should do a video there. And I'm like, all right, I'll fucking just stick it in the email every single week.

Were you a commenter? No, no, no. But yeah. That was always it. When I had my first interview with Dave, the first question he asked me is, are you a commenter on the website? And I was like, no. He's like, I'll find out.

And I was like, I'm not. And he's like, okay, we can continue the interview now that's like uh that's like the SATs like I'm getting into school the first barrier like if you don't get a score above this you're out and we'll start looking at your extracurriculars but yeah so then like I did that for Kat for a while then she left and Gaz just said you can keep doing this then I was like I also do data and so he was like meet he who shall not be named. And then I took it from there. I love that.

Like what you just said, though, I think is almost like the key to like any fucking job and what you're like severely lacking here. You just said, I just needed to find a way to be valuable. I don't think anybody does that. I think people come in and say, make me valuable. Like tell me what to do. Or like, I am valuable. You're just not using me the right way or whatever some of these people do. Instead of being like, okay, this didn't work.

Or let me pivot. Or let me add. Or whatever. Yeah, luckily Erica stuck me with Stu after a few weeks of like, it's like, all right, Greer clearly doesn't have a boss. He's trying to do stuff he doesn't know what to do and then uh that that is always pretty rewarded dave just said it at that meeting a couple weeks ago and he was like i don't even know like it wasn't a public thing so i don't

know if i'm supposed to say it but he basically was like he was like if you work hard you'll always have a job here even if there are no results. You know what was very disappointing about that meeting? What? There was a little you're actually, you're not a corner, so you might have already been getting up. We didn't get the star. We didn't get the star? Yeah. The star painting? Yeah.

Oh! Everyone popped up like, no, you didn't mention it! The picture, you know? That put in what you put out. That's end of year usually. I think that's the first all-hands meeting we've had where that painting didn't get referenced. He's always pointing to it. Head down.

It's like that painting. It's like that one in there. Can we steal that and put that in here? I don't want to throw anyone on the bus, but someone after that meeting didn't get mentioned. He's like, I'm fucking quitting. Who's? Quigs. Quigs is probably the second funniest person in this company.

I put Quigs and Greer in the same boat. I don't even know. I don't know what Quigs does at all. Is he data too? No. He's like graphics and all that. Is that what his job is? I always thought he was making those on the side

while doing some other sort of shit. Quigs is like his own department of himself. Like literally. Not Luke. Nick showed me the other day the org chart or whatever you call it. And it's just Quigs. Because I thought he was just like he's really good at the memes and the pictures and stuff and the photoshop so i do that while i'm doing data or fucking whatever

other you know he does graphics but he's like dave requests so much shit from him it's like you just gotta let him do a little milmore s remember milmore was just like dave's guy milmore's still here too yeah no more still out's still out there. Quiggs is, to me, the funniest person I've ever met in my life. Like, by a very, very wide margin. He will just do, like, video edits just for a group chat that never see the light of day. He'll spend, like, a half hour on it just to get, six haha reactions that the email i showed you yesterday um like literally right as pav said speed which is like action i guess which we've had to change you have to say action because i don't know speed speed is for sound then action is for camera so

feidelberg's like walking into the room and i'm just because i don't do anything well i'm useless everyone's holding a camera and i'm like i'm just chilling there and i read my text and it's just quigs with no other context he just cropped an email he got from gaz and he just crops the top line. Just says, how big is it? And I just, I was like cracking up in the corner while the guys were filming. Just because of a fucking Quigs text. He said like, from Paul at ParcelsWorks.com. How big is it?

So does Gaz, do you still have any reporting to Gaz? Yeah, he asks a lot of shit. I don't know if you heard earlier career was talking about how he prepares things and sends it to who i went sends to send to who because i just wanted him to say gas just to see what you yes yes it's it's most often gas yeah 100 now we do this you know this the new gm structure everything is about when we present to erica and gas when we present to Erica and Gaz, and I want, I'm like,

I think next meeting I'm going to go in and say, no more saying Gaz. Just say Erica. I know that we will be doing it to Gaz too, but stop saying it. Presenting to Gaz. While he's probably laid

on the fucking sidewalk too. He's actually, he's like an old man now. He's usually like in bed by eight yeah by like six he's he's the one i was with right before the uh that picture at straight there was not a doubt in my mind about that so um but now so like there's no way you're supposed to be, like, an impartial just numbers guy, right? But, like, you obviously want Out of Order to crush.

Yes, I do. If we have a bad episode, it might not make the report that much. That's what I'm saying. Just little things that could be like, whoops. Or, like, if you have a good one, it's at the very fucking top of the playlist. And then my recommendations for out of order needs to get posted on main way more. I just think it's good. Do you do recommendations though? Or is it like do you just present numbers?

Or it's like here's the numbers and my evaluation of these are – Yeah, but it's not stuff like that. Like put this on main. It's more like – it would be like you're not using Instagram enough. You're so heavily weighted TikTok. If something works on TikTok, it'll work on Instagram too. Got it. Shit like that would be the recommendation.

But you – I mean you could like – that is saying something. It's like if you recognize that more than any other asset or any other brand or whatever, when this gets mass appeal from our main account, it does better than the average thing getting posted on the main account. So use it more. Like that could be a logical assumption. Yeah, it would be shit like that. But the numbers always have to back it. Yes, 100%. I can't just be like put this on main for no particular reason.

Quig just sent me this text. Pop that on main. Knowing that Gaz is the one looking at the reports, no one's checking what Greer's doing either. Whatever Greer is getting is not being checked by anybody, and whatever Greer is passing along is not being checked by anybody. So just add some zeros and make some assessments. I'll get you some Canadian dollars, man.

We're describing a microcosm of the world. No one checks. For real, man. For fucking real. Nobody cares. As long as they have something that they can go, well, I did this because this is what the report said.

And they go to the guy who makes the report and he goes well this is what pod track said and then it just stops there there's there's some time mostly a few years ago i remember someone was asking for some metric that was clearly bullshit and didn't matter i think it was like youtube impressions which literally is just like if someone comes across the thumbnail they don't even have to click the fucking video just like and it was like a buyer wanted to know how many impressions it gets which it's several orders of magnitude above views so it's the most useless fucking thing in the world your advert your ad isn't going to be viewed or anything but one of our sellers was like one of the buyers wants to know youtube impressions and i replied like do they know that's the most useless fucking metric on the entire

platform and then and then he was just like, no, I don't think so. I'm just like, all right. Well, I said to him, I'm like, if you can find buyers that will buy on this metric, keep doing it. Yeah, that sounds like the biggest fucking thing. I'm glad you said that because that brings a question. How about Twitter impressions? Those are much closer to video views because it auto-plays as you go by. But – so every platform has their own definition of a view, right?

One second, two seconds, eight seconds, whatever. But – Never mind. No, go ahead. No, no, no, no. I'm going to continue it. You go ahead. Well, it seems like certain things get sold on impressions, and, you know, that seems like fugazi.

That seems like... I would say it's mostly views at this point. Yeah. Like, very rarely do I hear anything about impressions, and I think that's normally for, like, a fucking picture. Okay. Because there's no other way. Because then we hear about impressions a lot. Yeah.

So we hear from stupid i think people a lot of people use impressions and views like video views interchangeably even though they're not exactly the same but for most of these social platforms they're pretty fucking close like at the end of the day because sometimes it feels like i'm hearing about impressions and i'm like well are those so it's either they're just using the word wrong or it is a viable yeah measurement yeah okay except youtube they're those are still dog shit they make no sense it's just like if there's a recommended video on the side you're getting an impression yeah so i mean it's good for looking for your actual channel look like oh is our thumbnail good are people seeing it and then

clicking yeah but in terms of like selling it i i was baffled when someone someone asked about that but that was that was several years ago but yeah that would be a useless one for someone like buying shit um last question because i gotta do another show uh how safe moon what was gonna happen that was like the first time i feel like we ever like had like a real interaction i've been out on safe moon i don't know what it is i don't know how to get out i i if you told me there was a hundred million dollars in the account right now but you have to access it without asking for help yeah i would i would have to figure that out again like i completely forgot about that stuff that was that was a wild summer you're trying to help me through it and it was like gotta do this that stuff. That was a wild summer. That was hard.

I remember you trying to help me through it, and it was like, got to do this, that. The other thing was like 25 steps just to buy some SafeMoon, and then Portnoy torpedoed it. Then there were ones that were just straight up, SafeMoon was a scam, but they pretended they weren't.

There were some that straight up, like me and Tommy bought PussCoin, and it went to zero within 30 minutes we we got robbed within the hour yeah i can't believe it i was i was handling caleb's finances at that time because we were we were in on ass coin and that was one of the ones that were like decent like it stayed afloat and then uh and then we i was like i was like yo me and tommy are trying to get into puss coin and he's like he's like puss coins gross that doesn't that doesn't that doesn't have mass appeal like ass i'm staying out and then sure enough he his his logic was correct

financial uh the puss coin creators weren't upstanding citizens they didn't see it as the as the next world reserve currency i think they just wanted to make a quick buck what uh did any of those coins like i know you were a big coin guy did anything not nothing made you yeah i think they're all still dead, but on the next run-up, some might still continue. Something will happen again, right? Yeah, 100%. Somebody will go to a penny again and blow up, right? Yeah, it's just a matter of if the people are still doing anything with it.

And I think the Hoge people are. I've talked to Hoge people who, like, they, I don't know if they are either, like, scammers or just the most dedicated people, but they believe in this shit. They were like, we're trying to open up foundations and charities and help the world and all this shit. I'm like, we're talking about Hoge. That became a big thing where they would all just adopt an African country and be like, we're going to help Zambia.

We're going to help Zambia. She's like, how the fuck are you going to do that? These guys are for real. They're helping out the kids. All right, man. Well, great vibes as always. Just keep bringing the vibes. Thanks for having me.

Thank you, man. Just remember, just a couple extra zeros here and there. That report. Is he going to get Greer in actual trouble? Yeah, I know. Imagine if Greer got deported from this fucking episode. If somebody was like, that KC Radio episode, that was it. Well, if that happens, we bear no responsibility.

I'll head to the courthouse and get married before they can do that. you you you you